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Unite the clans 2.0 edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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Reminder to bully all Peacekeepers.
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>>171451808
SECOND FOR LAW
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*ATTENTION PS4BROS*
There is now an /fhg/ community on ps4
If you would like to join look up:
For Honor General
OR
message TheSteroid386 and I will invite you to the community.
If you messaged me earlier today, check your notifications, I sent out invites from over night not too long ago.
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If Peackeeper isn't nerfed along with Warlord and Conqeuror I'm done with this game. I don't understand how such a fucking brainless and autopilot pile of cancer has not been fucking nuked.
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Hit rep 3 Nobushi today

>Open my 15 crates
>scavenge premium packs an additional 15 times until I'm out of steel
>Not a single Tendo chest piece

I'm out. I was gona retire to duels but I'm beyond burnt out now.
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>PS4 says i have NAT 2
>Game says i have NAT 3

What the fuck is wrong with this game?
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This happens all too often
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>>171452081
Is there any difference between Tendo/Hazuki/Amano chest pieces beyond what logo you have on the booze flask?
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>>171452045
Tell me how exactly warlord and conqueror are overpowered?
I play warlord a bit and I only do well by knowing his spacing and speed. his combos are so easy to see they are hardly worth using
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>dominion
>all bots on my team the entire match
>breaking
>die
>bot stands over me and doesn't revive
>PING
>just sits there for 20 seconds until he gets killed

Holy shit why?
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As a raider/kensei/lawbringer, how does one counter nobushi?
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>>171442361
is this a legit thing
is there a PT server or am i being rused
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>>171452153

From what I can tell if you want the inside chest pieces to be solid black that is the one you need.
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>>171452146
I hope you smashed them at the end of each round. Killing your own teammates when the round is already won is a fun challenge.
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>>171452081
You will get it, that shit drops like candy at higher reps. I use the Tendo set as well, but with the Yoshizuka helm because it's the best helm in the game for any hero ever.
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>>171452284
Otohime is objectively superior.
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>>171452227
LB needs to block and shove and feint like nuts

parry her dodge attacks and go for the light confirm, her range makes it impossible to gb reliably
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>>171452250
this is correct.
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Is lewdkeeper around, I want that emblem so i can edit it for my Valk
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>>171452230
according to >reddit there is
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>>171452401

Woah woah nigga, Lewdkeeper did not make that emblem. I did, (I'm a nobody) but I'm not LK.

http://imgur.com/a/nupqx
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>>171452362
It's literally the same except Yohizuka gets a cooler mask.
http://i.imgur.com/rX5O7KG.png
http://i.imgur.com/yGCaOx8.jpg
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>want to play sword hero
Warden or warlord?
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what kind of axehead is good for raider?

Is glass cannon better or is building defense like a lawbringer good too?
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>>171452372
Why is it that wardens will literally slide 10 feet forward to get their GB but we don't?
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>>171452515
I meant the one that's just a heart (with some flourishes) though
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>>171451914
Normally I wouldn't support warden cancermancy but at least you were taking out an even bigger cancer
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new to 'for honor,

what is the best armor/weapon set for warden?
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>>171452515
none of those are lewdkeeper's emblem shitbird
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>>171452627

Shit MB. Check the discord I hear LK hangs out there.
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>>171452572

YOU ARE A RAIDER

LEGENDARY
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>>171452584
I thought i once heard that the devs entertained the idea of doubling the range of shove.

Doubling the range of something so useless makes me sad.

I want to hear about the changes, i have a reaction image and everything waiting for it.
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>>171452572
LEGENDARY
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>>171451937
DOING GOD'S WORK
<3<3<3
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>>171452747
>>171452802
I just want some advice for how to build my raider.

memes are no help to me.
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>>171452798
>i have a reaction image and everything waiting for it
I bet money that it's this or some variation of this
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>>171452950
>legendary
they're talking about the legendary gear anon. you so silly
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Anyone know any for honor youtubers that aren't complete fags?
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>>171452570
Well obviously do you like two handed swords or sword and shield more. People will complain about either of them.
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>>171453007
Even better. Its anime.
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>>171453096
neither of those are the legendary weapon though.

Or i dont think they are, there is no star on the name.
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>>171453114
I'd like the one with more tools at their disposal that can easily go from defense to offense and good combos
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>>171453109

Nah they just all copy off each other DESU
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>>171452618
Use whatever you like the look of best.

Or, use gear that stacks your defense, attack, and revenge stats.
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>>171453234
warden

don't spam your charge and zone as a crutch, though, tempting as it may be
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>counterfeint a warden and parry his crushing counterstrike attempt
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE
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friendly reminder that you should leave any brawl or duel or elimination or skirmish where there is a pk or warlord nigger on the enemy team.
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>>171453253
If I see another Knight video with "Deus Vult" in the title and Sabaton's The Last Stand playing throughout I'll slit my wrists. I've never seen a joke slammed into the ground so hard.
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how bad of an idea is this?

>lawbringer's shove now can charge up
>zero threshhold is standard interrupt
>full charge is a knockdown
>charge still has hyperarmor
also
>long arm now confirms at least a side heavy
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>>171453280
thanks, on a blade what does the 'defense' stat help with exactly? Parrying? Taking damage?
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>>171453475
Just don't play the game, guys.

That'll show those bullies.
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So out of all the voice actors in For Honor the voice of the Nobushi/Momiji is by far the cutest.
Peacekeepers btfo when they see the true face of their slut.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4785382/
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Has ubisoft made any statements about PK? It's so god damn broken it's causing this game to be a joke now.

>can spam light attacks without issues
>largest zone in game
>can attack WHILE dodging making it IMPOSSIBLE to GB a dodge
>fastest start up and recovery in the game next to orochi
>insane damage
>impossible to stop the pain train
>no negative or punishable trade offs

What in the FUCK is ubisoft doing? PK and orochi is ruining this game completely
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>>171452950
I MUST DEFEAT YOU
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>>171453548
>Long arm confirms a side heady

Either that or it shouldn't be so easy to dodge and punish, like fucking come on
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>>171453227
Meant that he had to get them
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is there any way to tell when the uninteruptable stance of shugeki refreshes?
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>>171453847
Yeah, he will shimmer white for a second.
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>>171453531

It's just all the dark soul fags trying to get some free content in their limited channels before the DLC hits probably. It's almost always the same shit honestly.
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>>171453691
>Has ubisoft made any statements about PK?

Raider is the hard counter for Peacekeeper and the only hard counter in the game. So don't expect a nerf.
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Does anybody know how fast valk's light's are? Shit's getting fucking tiring getting sucked into the chain leg sweep.
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>>171453593
It means you take less damage from physical attacks, I don't think it does anything against feats, but I'm not sure on that.

Also, one thing I should mention, is that if you find some gear that you like the look of, and you find some different gear that you don't like the look of, but it has the stats you want, you can make that gear look like the gear that you liked.

Another thing. You said you're new? If you're buying scavenger crates, don't. Not yet. Wait until you're reputation 3.
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>>171452163
Warlord and Conq are both incredibly well off pretty much right out of the gate just for being shield characters in the ebib all defense meta, but also Warlord gets an open-up move in the headbutt that's incredibly fast, has good tracking and guaranteed damage off it, gets free top heavy off a GB, gets free top heavy off a wallsplat, has by leaps and bounds the best throw in the game, has some of the best feats in the game, there's nothing he's bad at right now.
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>>171453883
Except raider doesn't counter PK in any way.

>>171453960
Everyone sucks conqs dick and I honestly do not understand why, i cannot play him at ALL.
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>>171452515
>The only one I would actually want at all uses the fucking open beta crown
>I played in the closed beta but missed the open
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>>171454004
>Except raider doesn't counter PK in any way.

I'm just telling you what they said.
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>>171453865
ty
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>>171452572
I went with the max stat being damage and second being defense. Stamina cost reduction is by far the worst of the 3, least impact even when it sounds like it'd be really important. Defense is the best one really, but on raider I like damage just for the laugh.
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WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I BLOCK/PARRY OROCHI'S SPRINTING HEAVY?

IT GOES THROUGH MY GUARD EVERY FUCKING TIME
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Trying to play Nobushi for the first time has really given me a newfound respect for Nobushi players, this shit isn't easy.
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>>171454081
Then they are absolutely fucking wrong and they don't even play their own game.
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>>171454197
>isnt easy
>literally top light over and over
>maybe do a side right once in a while

nobushi is one of the easiest heroes int he game.
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>>171452572
if you're playing raider then you're playing for fun, may as well go for attack even though it's the worst of the three. Someone who has invested in defense will do more than offset all of your offense investment.
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>>171453685
>Jennifer Hale
I KNEW the fucking female warden was eerily familiar
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>>171453883
Are you sure you don't mean warlord?
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any idea what sort of buffs raider will get yet? i'm having tons of fun with him already
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>>171453685
Nobushi a QT
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>>171454171
>>171454352
Thanks for input. I knew defense was really good from my lawbringer, but I guess i was iffy on stamina cost, especially when you need a lot for the zone mixup after the exhausted knockdown
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>>171454582
There are honestly things you just can't do without stam cost reduction, it's a really comfy stat. I'd still prioritize defense though.
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>bought mythic knight outfit for Warden
>dont even wanna use symbols cause they all dont mesh with defending/attacking whatsoever
fuck me man

i still like that you get 3 patterns, that shit looks great imo.
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>>171453685
Peacekeeper 5/10 would not fuck.
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>>171454687
looks better than the in-game face
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>>171453685
>>171454554
fug
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>>171454337
>Things shitters say
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>>171454554
>>171454791
nobushi is my new main
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>>171453883
>Pk
>counter

Nothing counters that fucking class. Not a single thing. Not valk, not warden, nor warlord, not even conq. Nothing does. If we were being realistic in balancing the game then everyone in the room must agree that PK NEEDS a HARD nerf to the ground making her useless until a proper balance for her can be made. In fact, that'd be for the best.

If ubisoft was to stop people from leaving the game.over balancing issues then they should just rush out a hard heavy nerf to PK and fix the orochi exploit l. It'll force PKfaggots to actually gitgud and learn how to play and make people relearn how the game works rather then promote cheesy faggot shit but that'll never fucking happen. I've lost hope in PK getting a fucking nuclear nerf
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>>171454761
Looks the same to me.
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who's the best soldier killer

I need 300 soldier kills in dominion
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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>>171455224
lawbringer

conqueror is second
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>>171455224
Shugoki with his zone can kill like 6 dudes per sweep. Use him
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>>171455361
>Metalkid267 posted~
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Why is nobushi so fucking ridiculous with revenge?
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>>171455587
who is this caesar salad?
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>>171455752
Because revenge was probably made really late in development and never properly tested
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>>171455752
because zone attack basically one shots and hits 360 degrees around her, and has two swings
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>>171455486
>>171455456
I actually used a berserker and sat in their spawn killing soldiers for the entire game

I got like all 300 in one game, it was pretty great
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>>171455819
Brushu teethu anime gurl
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>play Dominion
>stacked team camping A and C while neglecting mid
>gank you immediately if you come close
>play some more Dominion
>stacked team camping A and C neglecting mid
>gank you immediately if you get close
>play some more Dominion
>scrub team of nobody with gear that barely know how to play
>disconnects while the enemy team is breaking
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>>171455819
>not recognizing Vivian James
hownew.ru
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>>171455902

Not them but /v/ became way too cancer for me and I left there years before she was a thing. I only know her name because the epic memelords crossposting her everywhere for a month
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>Enemy teams bots are gods that read my inputs to block every time, parry light attacks regularly, and tech every single GB, even half of the GBs from parries which are meant to be untechable
>Meanwhile bots on my team are piss easy and constantly get ledged
Seriously, why the fuck is this allowed? I've lost so many games because I get bots on my team that get at most 1 kill over 5 fucking rounds of elimination. Meanwhile the enemy bots can hold their own until help arrives, or even kill easily
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>play conq
>roach bitches the entire game
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We're in agreement that orochi players are shitters right, not because the character is broken or anything, it's just that the people who play them are cancer

>Enter Duel
>Trying to work on Kensei
>end up facing a Valk
>both are low levels so we're both learning
>should be a good fight
>First two rounds are won with me being at about half health
>Not bad, forgot that Valk lights are really fast, seemed almost to fast...
>Round 3 hits, Valk magically teleports into shield tackle stance
>Wat.jpg
>Is clearly starting to lag, but i barely manage to claim victory

Match 2
>Don't know why, but something about his connection felt off
>Take my main man Lawbringer
>He locks in a rep 5 orochi in black armor
>The map is Forest, the first round is the bridge...
>Fuck
>Cautiously approach the roach
>He teleports to be and I end up getting ledge killed
>Begins emote spamming and has the fucking darkness effect
>HE HAS DONE WRONG
>Proceed to law him harder than ever
>Even manage to land a Blind Justice on him
>Get hit only once during the next 3 rounds
>Round 4
>About to finish him off
>Roles away
>Emote spam
>Leaves before i can execute him

>Fuck Prospect Hippy

Orochi players, please kill yourselves, you aren't wanted

>>171455361
>metalkid267
Our boi is back
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If we're being honest, who is to blame for this whole mess? I feel like Ubisoft Montreal had good intentions but that counts for nothing, and everyone should know by now not to buy a Ubisoft product anyway.

Is it us? Do we only have ourselves to blame? I feel like it didn't have to go down this way.

SUSPEND THIS GAME and take it down while you put in one solid week of honest work. Nobody wants to see this happen to a new IP with potential.
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>>171456278
>roles away
rolls

but yeah, perma-defensive orochi players that constantly backdash are infuriatingly slow to play against
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Any other xbone players here?

What is up with getting disconnected from a match when recording something?
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>>171456448

>SUSPEND THIS GAME and take it down while you put in one solid week of honest work

wait what
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what are the numbers for atk and def when they are maxed out as the secondary stat?
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>>171455902
haha dude learn ur chan culture gamergate!!!
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>>171456454
>roles
>rolls
my fucking rage grammer
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What stats do I want for zerker? ATK or stam reduction? Feat reduction or vengeance?
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>>171454201
They probably take the Peacekeepers being sluts for Raiders meme seriously.
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>>171456675
vengeance always unless you're going for a meme feat build

zerk has a lot of traps so that might be funny
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>>171456479
I think they fucked xbone after the last patch. I'm noticing way more fucking lag when I open the menu during a game
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>>171456195
>>play conq

Stopped reading there
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>>171455954
/v/ was cancer for me when there wasn't some big thing to talk about.
Yeah, LOL threads can be fun, but unless there's actual news happening about a game then the board turns to shit.
I don't know, I haven't been there in years. Maybe it's changed.
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How do I beat a fat man as mace dude
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>>171457064
I stopped going when late night shitpost free RE and MGS threads stopped popping up
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>>171451937
My man
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>>171457112
Block or dodge, go for GB even if you know he'll tech it, bash 'n' smash.
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>>171456278
>destroy a guy in the first round
>he turtles like hell in the next 2
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>>Decide to play some brawl since I'm out of orders
>>get a cool group
>>we end up playing like five rounds
>>all chill, we all have lots of fun
>>all add each other when we're finally done

God damn why is brawl the comfiest gamemode?
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>warden vortex
>you have to choose between dodge and GBC
>except he can read your dodge and GB accordingly

great, this is so balanced
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Something is up with fucking parries lately. 4-5 times tonight I've had the parry animation play and the attack still go through and hit me, it's weird as fuck
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>>171457283
you gotta throw out a light attack as soon as you see him go for it
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>>171457318
are you sure? it just bumps me as soon as I initiate
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>>171456530
It's spelling.
Like how you spelled grammar wrong.
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>people here actually bought and upgraded REVENGE gear when its gonna get the nerf bat
MY FUCKING

S I D E S
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>>171457564
What else am I going to spend my coins on? I'd rather enjoy a 2-3 months of not getting stomped by revenge gear by having it myself
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>>171457450
>rage
It's not supposed to be coherent
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>>171452227
Parry her lights or dodge-lights then smack her with a heavy for 1/3rd of her health
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Kensai needs a buff more then the law.

At least the law can open someone up. Sure you can block anything they do after that but at least they have it. Kensai can't even do that.
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>>171455361
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Just checking in, how far away from balance death is this game so far?

I quit playing around the time they "fixed"(buffed) Peacekeeper bleed so that they were even more braindead so it's been a bit. How's this ubishit game doing?
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>>171458946
I just watched that episode.
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>>171458973
They took out 2 maps from rotation becuase of """lag"""
And they added new emotes and effects that cost more than the ones already available.
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>Finally reach rank three law
>get axehead that's nothing but attack, putting my defense and stamina cost to shit

What absolute drek
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Is there a Hero outside the Holy Quaternity of Warden/WL/Conq/PK that can sorta beat them often enough under similar skill levels?
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>>171460023
Valk has a shot, that's about it.
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>"Yeah, I have time for one more game."
>Select duel
>Pick my Rep 2 Lawbringer, my highest level and only character over level 10
>See this
>Alt-F4

I'm not dealing with this shit before bed. Sorry, random guy. I have never done Alt-F4 before, but holy fuck I am not dealing with this shit.
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>>171458848
Law can't really open people up in anything more than a superficial way. The shove does literally nothing and NO SUPERSTES is so telegraphed that it only works if your enemy is in another tab browsing PornHub.
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>>171460023
But conq isnt OP...
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>>171460251
He's massively effective with minimal input. I wouldn't say he's OP, but he's definitely nearly top tier.
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dead general

dead game

dead inside
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>>171460310
Wasn't it down to 9k peak the other day?
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>>171460204
Shove into grab, it's so stupid it works.

Also you're right but my point is that atleast they have a shove, a chance to maybe get something going before they get smoked. Kensai has nothing. Kensai and Lawbringer sit at the same kiddie table, but at least the law has a fork.
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>>171460204
>>171460417
Also, shove acts as the first action into the three hit SUPERSTES chain, but only from side stance, as if that means fuck all.
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>Final round of elimination
>I die along with two others on the team
>Some of us can be revived
>Signal for a revive
>The last one alive is just guarding the body he killed
>It's 1v3, he's already outnumbered
>Still refuses to go revive anyone in case they revive his guy
Fucking why
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>>171460417
I think the theory behind Kensei is that he's meant to be the most "pure" class. Pure fundamentals and nothing else.
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Why do we get an assassin quest every single fucking day now. There wasn't a heavy quest in a week.
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>>171460365
How can you tell?

Steam isn't representative of the whole playerbase
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>>171456675
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND
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>>171460563
Except that sort of shit only works in 2d fighters.
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>>171460646
I wouldn't say there's more than double the Steam numbers. Seems unlikely that the majority wouldn't be using it, due to the monopoly Valve has on digital gaming.
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>>171460298
But against anyone who knows how to play the game a conq is hard as shit to play and win as. Your shield bash is your bread and butter but anyone worth there salt will dodge and fuck you up. I disagree wholesomely.
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>>171460824
I can't think of any way to "fuck up" a Conq after he misses his shield bash. You might be able to get a light in, but that's it. The whole fight becomes him missing his attack and you getting a light in to punish him. His design is shit and way too simple.
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>>171460824
Shugoki and Lawbringer cannot dodge the shield bash effectively, their lack of speed impairs them even if their player knows what to do. The law especially is basically a free win, I would even say the conq is the law's hardest match-up.
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>>171460824
Yes they will fuck you up after your unpunishable shield bash. I wish I could roll my eyes more than I already do.
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I fucking hate Wardens Vortex and the faggots who defend this broken shit
>Easily spammable, costs little stamina
>Mix up so you never know for 100% what he's going to do
>Impossible to punish him even if you guess correctly
It's fucking nonsense, just had a match earlier with one
>He's charging up his shoulder, I decide to try dodging in case he raw shoulders me
>I time it perfectly and dodge, following up with a light attack
>He fucking blocks it even though I dodged and immediately attacked
>Next time guess he's going to GB
>Counter it, but can't punish him off that
There's no way to fucking punish him for this retarded easily spammable guessing game shit
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>>171461172
dude just roll away lmao :^^^^^^^^)
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>>171452401
Hi
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>>171461398
got a tutorial
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The window for parry is now after block and its much smaller.

Game fix'd?
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>>171461492
I'm way too lazy to do that. Trust me it's very easy to figure out though.
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>>171461539
Why would you reward mistiming parry with a block.
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>>171461694
Why isn't a parry just a block+
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>>171461694
I don't think you get what he's saying anon.
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>>171461847
Maybe not
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>>171455361
>>171451937
Metalkid267 v TheSteroid386. Who wins?
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>>171461901
If you miss the window too late, you throw out a risky heavy. If you miss on the short side, then yeah you still get the block.

The whole point of it is that a block confirms a parry, you can you actually throw off a PK with some amount of reliability.
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>>171462059
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>>171462059
We are all on the same side!!!
probably steroid because he aligned with the samurai and has great skill
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>>171462492
>that webm
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>>171462492
>The sun gets sliced in half too
Alright, I chuckled
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>>171461172
In the irst option, you should have grabbed. In the second, you should have attacked. There, punishment.
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Seeking good music to go with my crusade.
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>>171462820
>guess wrong
>first time he gets his two free lights
>second he gets his 2 free lights
>you have no way of really telling what he is going to do
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>>171462820
>Grab him in the first option
>He counter GBs
>Attack in the second option
>I get one light attack in
Gee sure sounds like punishment, as long as I guess correctly 100% of the time I get ONE whole light attack in! Sure is fucking equal to him getting two lights or heavies in each time I guess wrong!

Not to mention if he strictly does raw shoulders and can perfectly counter every GB there's no way to punish him
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So how would you guys fix revenge? Here's what I do without completely trying to rework how it works
>no longer progress the revenge bar in a 1v1
>only stat that matters for revenge builds is revenge mode duration
>all others either don't scale noticeably
>or are useless
>pair the new dump stats up with other dump stats
>everyone now gains revenge at the same rate
>now how quickly it builds scales nearly at the same rate as if it were maxed out otherwise in any situation that's greater than 2v1
>when in a 2v1 it builds at half the speed it would if it were maxed out
>if you get out of a gank before it could fill the bar and back into a 1v1 the bar stops where it's at but doesn't drain
>still fills based on how many people are in an area around you, if you're an honorfag either fuck off or help out
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>>171462990
If you get the GB it's untechable.
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Is it just me, or did they remove one of Kensei's unlisted moves in the recent patch? He could do this one move where, if you did a dash attack to your right and immediately did a top heavy afterwards (you had to input the top heavy before the dash attack even landed) he would do this cool overhead flip and the top heavy would come out as fast as a top light. But ever since the patch I've been unable to do it, even by going into practice mode and trying to replicate it over 30 times against a level 0 bot. Yet the patch notes don't even mention it. Does anyone know if they removed it?
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>>171463012
Revenge mode defense needs a massive fucking nerf. People literally turn into unkillable gods with it maxed out
>Playing elimination
>Last enemy alive is a Lawbringer
>It's 3v1
>We're all wailing on him nonstop
>He pops revenge, gets a massive health/shield boost
>By the time we widdle that shield down his revenge ends and he immediately gets it again
>Along with this bullshit he's using a healing feat
>The match runs out of time before we can even kill him
Two fucking minutes of him getting gangbanged nonstop and we couldn't kill the fucker because he maxed out revenge defense mode
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>>171463146
Stealth nerf
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>>171463119
I've had them tech it before. The point still stands that there's very little to no punishment for his easily spammed bullshit.
And any and all "punishment" gained from this is strictly from me guessing correctly, which is hard as shit to do against someone purposefully trying to be as unpredictable as they can be
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>>171463174
Were people guardbreaking or using shoves/bashes to prevent blocking on his part?
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>>171463146

Yes, they removed this. Apparently it was unintended
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>>171463323
Yes. Just between the revenge mode defense and his healing feat he was fucking unkillable
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>>171463404
>it was unintended
A move with its own special, entirely unique animation was unintended? Okay then Ubisoft.
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>>171463525
it was just his unblockable animation but sped up like mad
what annoys me the most is that he didn't even need it taken from him, he's underpowered as it is
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>>171462882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
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>cant make orochi look like either of tozen's outfits
>always has to look like a fuckin edgelord
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>Law autists will switch to the next worst class when Law gets overbuffed
Just wait
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>>171464068
Nobushi?
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>>171461539
Parry is now a 1 frame window but instantly kills the enemy
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>>171453691
At least 50% of the playerbase mains PK
If they nerf her, they will anger 50% of the playerbase

It's like the MP40 Juggernaut combo in COD5, they'll leave it because they care more about keeping players than having a good game
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>>171464286
they'll lose the other 50% if they don't
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>>171463580
That poor raider wearing the Rookie Teal colours. Jesus.
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After a side parry as a Warden are side lights guaranteed?
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>>171464096
RAIDER
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>>171463580
I bet he did that ZA just accidentally, it happens to me sometimes when I want to do the heavy into light feint but press light too fast
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>>171453691
>orochi op

Opionion disgarded
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How balanced is this game? I've been meaning to get it.
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>>171464375
>tfw I won't be able to use the solid turquoise set in teammodes.
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Is Warden the best class for killing soldiers?

>lightning fast zone
>sweeping heavies
>light attack kills chain together
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>>171464471
Its not balanced in any way, it still is quite fun though,
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>>171464471
Horribly balanced.
>Warlord, PK, and Warden are top tier
>Raider and Lawbringer are meme tier, even if you're a fantastic player you'll get your shit kicked in by a good player playing a better character
>Revenge gear is beyond broken, and a grind to get, literally punishing you in 4v4 modes if you try to play a new character
The list goes on
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I finally made it to 108 guys. I can be even MORE cancerous now.
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I want them to make an elimination mode in a tourney style so you actually have to beat your opponent before running off to gangbang. It would be nice if they did this using maps that have drawbridges or some shit that you need to open before going out to fight the others, making it necessary to kill before opening it.
Because right now it's far too rewarding to just run and grab a buff and gank
>Leveling up Shugoki in elimination
>Faggots see me and run instantly, knowing I have absolutely no chance of catching up to them
This shit is infuriating, especially when I've almost killed them and they run for health or a shield and I can't stop them
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>>171463580
>the raider has one win
HAHAHAHAH
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>>171464663
>>Raider and Lawbringer are meme tier

There was a guy on Twitch who played Raider all the time, i forgot his name, but he was quite good with him
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>>171464471
>OP
Warlord, PK

>powerful
Warden, Valk, Conq

>fair to middling
Zerk, Nobushi, Shug knight, Orochi

>weak and in need of buffs
Kensei, Lawbringer, Raider

Within the tiers themselves there is no particular order to it, I just listed about what I think the general consesus is, the berserker may have been overrated though. I'm a shitter who has trouble with orochis and I main conq, I don't have much of a personal opinion.
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>>171464939
Once you git gud at parrying his unblockable Raider is fairly easy to take on. A good player can still manage to get by as him though, but he'll have a hard time
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>vikings map still out of rotation
>still no fix to the connectivity/matchmaking problems
>still no major balance patch

Does Ubisoft hate this game or something? It's like they're trying to fuck it up.
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>>171464604
I think Noobushit or Shugoki are pretty good at clearing as well

Shug can only do it efficiently if he uses run attacks and zones, his regulars and heavys are too slow.

His zone is a two hit combo that moves & turns.
Just a single zone swing can kill like 7+ minions at once if you hit a dense pile of them

If you could have the minion heal ability on shugoki, he would definitely be the best
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Orochi or Kensei for going full jack
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When you throw someone to the ground as a Raider with that circle throw thing, do you have time for a heavy after that?
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>>171465234
Kensei. Jack is a samurai not some weeb's samuraininja OC donut steel.
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>>171465239
you can go for a top heavy and into a 50/50
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>>171465074
>It's like they're trying to fuck it up.
I have no idea why, but it really does seem like they're actively trying to make the game as shitty as possible.
>Revenge gear lets you get revenge in 1v1s and two shot a full health bar
I'm 100% convinced that they either didn't playtest this shit at all, or made it like this on purpose to give shitters a way to feel like they're good and keep them playing.
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>>171464096
>nobushi
>bad
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>>171465358
>to give shitters a way to feel like they're good and keep them playing
That's what PK in general is already for
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>>171465563
>nobushi
>good

Well, she's not THAT bad, mid to low tier, but she's so high risk low reward, it's not really worth playing imo, her only good attack is her zone which can come out from left or right.

But again, i started playing like a week ago, so i might be wrong
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>>171465802
>her only good attack is her zone which can come out from left or right.
what? her zone can only come from her right, are you thinking of sidewinder?
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>>171465802
Please stop replying to this thread
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>>171465583
PK wouldn't be nearly as bad to deal with if her feats weren't beyond broken
>Playing elimination
>One of the later rounds get matched against a PK
>She immediately uses sharpen blades and fear itself
>All she has to do is GB me once or hit me with 3-4 lights and there goes my health bar
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>>171465885
yes
>>
>main kensei
>getting kind of frustrated from his lack of followup
>play warden or valk
>winning is ez
>anyone else
>winning is always an uphill battle

is there really such a huge difference between the "good" and the "bad" characters?
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Any Xboners wanna play doesn't matter the mode
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>>171465302
Orochi is actually way more practical

Kensei does like air 360s with a nodachi
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>>171466071
Yes.
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>>171466071
Absolutely. A Lawbringer is very easy to deal with as long as you can reliably counter GB and manage your stamina.
Warden meanwhile has so many fucking tools at his disposal such as his lightning fast huge range zone and vortex. Valk has her fast as fuck combos that are very easy to get trapped in.

And just wait. I'll bet anything that the DLC characters are going to be broken as shit to encourage season pass sales
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>>171466071
Yes, see >>171465001

the gap between "powerful" and "fair" is night and day, you have to wait for them to make a mistake to do anything, unless you're playing retards

imo shug belongs in powerful tier
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>>171465563
Nearly all of her movelist is easily punish-able at high level and just becomes unusable. She's mid tier at best imo.
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>>171466375
Shug can't do much against assassins though. When I play him they switch between light attacks too fast for me to block all of them.
Honestly when I play against an assassin, especially PK I let them widdle my health down, then when I'm close to dying I turn away and Oni charge like I'm running away. Then I turn and bear hug them for the insta kill
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>>171466071
After playing zerker and nobu since release i've switched to warden. Even at grey gear score i'm easily competing in 4v4 and anything that isn't a high rep warden, warlord or conq is almost a free win in duel/brawl.
The difference is night and day if you're used to getting minimal follow up for relatively alot of work.
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Is there a way to get bots to reliably throw out unblockables?

I need to practice parrying the Raider zone.
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>threadly reminder that Raider is a peacekeeper killer
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uninstalled 2 weeks ago
thought they'd patch and i'd come back
apparantly 3/4 of playerbase did the same

this game won't recover, will it
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>>171466836
>this is how little ubi understands their own game
This broken mess is never going to get fixed
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>>171466071
>tfw only played valk (pre-buff), Raider and zerker
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Has anyone ever played a berzerker who wasn't on third world internet?
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>>171467048
For some reason I have met alot of turkish zerkers.
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>>171467048

Maybe you are just mistaking their highspeed feints with lag
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>>171467158
I'm sure that red bar under their name means nothing

assassins were a mistake
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>>171451937
YEEEEEEEEEE
Finally
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>>171466375
He's okay at best.
The only thing Shug has going for him is his headbutt and grab
both are unreliable and frankly bad

only time you will even hit an almost guaranteed grab is after a wall stun, and headbutts are only good for stamina drain

Grab is okay for the heal, but it wont count as an execution.

It also leaves you super open and vulnerable, no matter if it's a hit or miss

His specialty is tradin, everything else gets blocked/parried due to their slowness, especially the charged heavys.
He has to wait a year for his stance to recover, but I can accept that since his headbutt usually leaves people waiting for their stamina to recharge and that usually gives you enough time.

Shug has the worst combos in the game (slow 2hits) and awful guardbreak heavy follow-up (you won't give you an execution killing with it)
Sure it's fun to batter people across the room, but the damage is pathetic compared to his regular heavys.

It doesn't even knockdown or wall splat people, it's just a static animation that wont even go to the direction where you're aiming looking.

They should add some bonus damage effect to it if you bash people against the walls, because god knows you'll never get a ledge kill with it if your enemy has even half a braincell.
(and to be fair, if you DO get a ledge kill, the damage wont even matter)
It loses against Warlord and Raider carry since it's uncontrollable and barely any utility. It just leaves you out of reach for a following up.. not that you even could.

There is only ONE time when you can consider Shugoki strong, and that's when he knocks someone down with revenge. He usually gets a free charged heavy on the poor bastard who fell for it. With the right maxed gear, it does around 4-5 bars of damage, theoretically instakilling some assassins if their defense is low enough.

Don't get me wrong, I fucking love my boy Shuggy, but he has way more weaknesses than strengths, even if those few strengths seem powerful at first glance.
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>>171454554
>>171454687
>>171454791
>>171454879
stop posting anytime.
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>>171451808
>For Honor Thread
>Using Dark Souls picture
Solid.
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>>171467048
>Get matched against someone whose literally teleporting around and hitting me out of nowhere
>They spam good fight when they kill me like I even had a chance
I quit whenever this happens
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>game has lost over 60% of its playerbase
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>Dominion
>3 teammates gangbanging a revenge gear faggot on the only point we control
>1 me to fight the other 3 enemies across 2 uncaptured points
every
single
time
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>>171464375
p sure they were mastery 1-2

>>171464436
p sure it happens to everyone
on kensei you can't cancel your zone attack into some lights now too, since it just decides that you want to do another zone attack instead of a light overhead

>>171464819
what's your point?
>>
How do I gitgud at making emblems?
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>>171467565
This is why I've given up on "teamplay"
I usually just defend/boost a point or go clear minions, depending on the hero I'm playing.

Also, if I get 2v1'd, I just run to the nearest point controlled by the enemy (essentially baiting them away from other objectives)
Also, I don't play assassins. You don't need a fast hero to run/back away
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>>171467565
>Elimination
>Carry my retarded fucking teammates through the entire game
>Tie breaker round I get killed, but I can still be rezzed
>I literally have the most kills on both teams
>Signal for a revive
>One teammate is just running around grabbing as many buffs as they can
>Spam for a revive
>They go to gank instead of picking me up even though I carried their ass through every previous round
>They die instantly when they give the enemy revenge
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
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>>171467668
Why doesn't it happen to PKs tho, they have to use the same timing to do heavy into bleedstab and it doesn't mistake it for a ZA
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Good thing Ubi doesn't show ping or region

why do companies insist on having these useless garbage "bars" system? Might as well tell me literally nothing
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>>171467962
warlord exists in this game and you are asking me why x y z doesn't work as according to plan?
it's shit, that's why
>>
I've taken to unbalancing my foes with the Pony emote on Lawbringer. I will spam it before a fight to psychologically trigger them into attacking.
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>>171467984
Hey Sartana.B

I'm in California.
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>>171468123
So do you steal wifi from mcdonalds or?
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>>171467984
Well, the ping in this game is always in compared to you, not everyone pinging the same server
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>>171468198
No I have good connection. What region are you in? Might be game's problem but I don't know this game's netcode.
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>>171468313

I thought it was p2p? Anyway if it's able to go from red to green it shouldn't be green ever.
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>>171468448
>No I have good connection
clearly not, you have severe packet loss or something. it happens a lot on console because people use their shitty wi-fi instead of a wired connection
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>her name is Pisskeeper
>doesn't actually keep piss anywhere
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Christ I just dueled a Warlord and I want to blow my brains out.

It's like literally everything they do even from neutral is a 50/50. That fucking headbutt is borderline impossible to dodge on reaction, and if you get too dodgey they can just start GBing you. I fucking HATE Warlords.
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So what game did everyone move on to? Surely all the players didn't just stop playing video games
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>>171469124
GB in general feels very poorly thought out. It's such a risk throwing a raw one out for very little chance of reward

It looks like Ubi has no interest in fixing the game either, be sure to buy those epic pony and dab emotes though.
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>>171469226
The worst part about these new emotes in my opinion is that they were already on disk since we saw the pony emote before fucking release. They're just releasing them over the course of a few weeks so they can say they're constantly updating the game
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>>171467409
>replying to a 20hr old post
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The most fun I have with this game is "hey this is kinda fun"

The least fun I have is insane autistic rage

Why should I keep playing? This game is an anger generator.
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>>171469775
If you don't enjoy it don't play it. I stopped playing weeks ago.

Only came into this thread to see if they'd finally started patching this shit.
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>>171469829

I'm planning to get my golden armor for my Lawbringer, then I'm quitting until they do something interesting with the game.
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>>171469775
Option 1 stop playing
Option 2 git gud
Decide
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>PK's in dominion
>they don't even fight, they jhsut dodge on an enemy point until their team ganks
>impossible to actuall damage them
>as soon as you lokc onto someone else, they heavy spam you to death

what even is this game
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>>171468451
It is p2p, that's why a red ping for you could be green for someone else and is probably green for him as well unless he starts dropping packets.
Usually, if someone is red for you, you're red for him as well.
Also, when you're lagging, you see yourself as green still but everyone else keeps jumping between the three colors.
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>>171469775
Nigger just play bots
There's no Dis Honor in bot fighting anymore, since the PvP is so cancerous and broken
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>>171467713
>steal someone else's idea and improve on it slightly
Congratulations you are now a top tier artist
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What character should I AFK to rep 3 next?
Xbox One here, I have 3 boxes so I can leave one on indefinitely, currently at rep 2 with my Kensei
Have:
Warden (Legit, worst experience ever)
Raider (Legit until 2, then AFK to 3)
Kensei
I'm thinking Lawman or Conq-a-donq
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>>171470269
>There's no Dis Honor in bot fighting
>He hasn't played against bots who literally cheat by reading your inputs to block every hit, parry light attacks regularly, and tech every single GB including ones after a parry even though they're meant to be untechable
Bots can be more frustrating than players
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guys
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>>171469775

Nah, the game has a lot of really dumb problems and ways to make you fail without getting really outskilled.

Worst of all it could easily be amazing but Ubisoft doesn't care enough
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>>171470989
PK's in dominion are literally, LITERALLY invincible.
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>>171471039
>>171469994
>have dominion order
>don't even give the tiniest amount of shit
>just suicide run to C every time
>why bother trying when PK can literally do nothing, pop revenge at half health and annihilate an entire team
I give zero fucks. Im afk on a point as I type this
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>4v4 gives the most XP
>is impossible to win if you don't have XP
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>>171471471
That was so unsatisfying.
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What rep do you start getting purple gear? rep 3?
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>>171467393
A Shugoki will never beat anyone at the same skill level, unless they're playing law or something
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>>171471980
Yes, but it's best to wait until rep 4-5 to start upgrading gear that you get.

You start getting level 13 purples at rep 3, and rep 4-5 you start getting level 14-15. You can still upgrade the level 13s to level 18, but you save steel if you wait.
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post cute characters
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>>171472450
>I wonder what Nobushi is doing tonight
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>weebs control 2/3 of the map

anyone still claiming that the war isn't rigged can go suck a fat jew chode
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>>171472450
>not guardduty.webm
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>>171451808
Why do 108 gear score players always say "gear doesnt matter"?
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>>171472820
To make themselves feels better when a nogear carry the game
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>/fhg/
>Dark Souls thumbnail

Reminder that you soulsfags ruined fun in the game with your honor faggotry.
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>>171472132
I think they actually fucked with the drop rate to make it more of a grind. On my main I was getting purple drops regularly at rep 3 and up. But now I got Warlord to fucking rep 4 and I'm still getting blues every now and then, and even when I buy gear only the two guaranteed higher level gear are purple and the other three are blue
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>tfw singlehandedly crashing 4v4s by quitting when I see honorfagging on either team
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>>171472820
They love to pretend that them getting revenge and two shotting three people in a row isn't because of gear, it's because they're so skilled.
Also probably fear that if they admit it's overpowered as shit it will get nerfed faster
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>>171473260
I've started reporting honorfags for griefing, but who knows if it actually does anything.

Someone should make a thread on the official for honor forums and ask if MUH HONOR is a reportable and bannable offense
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>>171453109
Mege I guess. He's a decent Warden and plays Lawbringer too, I think.
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Is this a fitting Lawbringer theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBezSLI3qUc
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So recently I've gone to the Ubisoft official For Honor forums to make threads about PK.

I asked simply, are Ubisoft going to fix the jarring problems with balance and can they consider adding a LAN option to the game for the competitive scene that is growing very fast.

My thread was responded with HUGE amounts of negativity and anger that ended up with my threads being deleted by mods and me banned.


Has ANYONE else dealt with this yet? Are the Ubisoft fan boys and Ubisoft just ignoring the huge problems with this game? It's literally killing the player base. Just go look at Steam activity, it's a joke
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>>171473494

Wait, one bit of constructive criticism results in a thread deletion and ban? The fuck kind of hugbox are they running on those forums?
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>>171453109
For me it's Saka_sakas on Twitch

Saka-san is adorable!
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>>171473494
I was just looking at the official forums and opened a thread about someone saying revenge gear is completely broken and that ubi should include a separate 4v4 mode without gear. People could still play the modes with gear, but this would give people an option if they're sick of gear in 4v4
Multiple people in that thread are defending revenge gear saying you can "just block even when they're in revenge" and that it rewards you for being able to block enemy attacks, and that we shouldn't be splitting the community.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1582649-Do-you-want-a-4v4-mode-with-no-gear-(poll)
These people are pure cancer
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>>171473418
Not the story one but for the version you play, yes. He is too goofy to have a serious theme
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Guys, I thought a conq charging his heavy couldn't tech a GB, did you lie to me?
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>>171473720
It's like Neogaf-lite

Literal autistic Ubisoft fans shitpost there to make it seem like no balancing is needed.

What Ubisoft should do is do what the Overwatch dev team does, Open a PTR and constantly update us on new patches and tests. It'd be very much appreciated by NOPE

This is fucking ubisoft we are talking about, and they ACCIDENTALLY made a fucking competitive fighting game and now don't know what to do to fix it
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Did they change conq gb followups? People are blocking my side heavies now.
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>>171470993
n-nani!?
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How would you make dominion more interesting ?
Hard mode: Without touching feats or gear
>Capturing points makes minions/archers/captains reinforcement appear depending on the length of the game
>As the game progress, more catapult/arrows airstrike appear randomly on the battlefield
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>>171470993
Legit outplayed. could have blocked that but noo. Go cry on the internet instead. Kids, heh....
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>>171473910
It's so fucking shitty. This game is great, but it's being destroyed by ubisofts incompetence.
And god help us if they listen to the retards posting on their forums
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>>171474029

If both teams enter breaking state, a rank 5 bot appears of Apollyon, Gudmundyr, or Tozen that is hostile to both teams.
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>always stack defense, anon
>but I play a nobushi and a warden
>ALWAYS URRAAAGHGG

Alright, I'll admit I'm pretty new but I'm prestige 2 and 3 on both now and try to focus on not getting hit and stacking my attack like any other game and it's worked well for me so far.

Can anyone tell me or break down why the stack defense thing works and apparently is better?
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>>171474029
Place elite bots or buffs inside the point you've captured. Now players are just running around in circles to capture points without any conflict. It should be more difficult to capture points and more rewarding.

I really don't know how to make dominion more interesting besides adding more moba features
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>>171474231
Maxing out defence stat reduces damage taken by about 30%. Max attack raises your damage by about 20%. On top of that, revenge defence stacks with regular defence. Using those and both the revenge gains make you really fucking hard to kill.
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>>171474162

They actually listen to Reddit mostly
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>>171474231
Defense makes you harder to kill, obviously. Max it out and heavies hit you significantly less
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>>171474408
This. MrEricPope is actually really great about responding to the community, as are the devs.
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>>171474634
>actually really great about responding to the community
Which is why we've had zero major balance patches and zero communication other than "Raider is a hardcounter to PK" and "muh winrates".
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>>171474408
Annnnnd that's the fucking problem.

Alright /fhg/ looks like reddit is in charge of patches. We are officially fucked
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>>171474391
What happens to those stats if you minimize them, how much does it drop?
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>>171474976
Fuck off you pessimistic elitist. You really think /vg/ is really any better that reddit?
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>>171475053
For damage i think it's -4% damage dealt if stat is at minimum
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>queue for brawl
>get into match
>choose my rep 4 main
>"no anon, you are playing as a lvl0 conq"
>5 deaths 0 kills
FUCK THIS GAAAAAAMMMMEEEEE!!!!
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it aint gonna flip itself
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>>171475145
Not him but frankly yes
I'm not interested in patches that revolve around the most upboated knee-jerk comments
See: Destiny.
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>>171472951
>2v1s
>It's just a game bro! XDDD
You're cancer.
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>>171475251
Whether you like it or not, the whole upvote system, especially on the competitive subreddit, is a good way to bring attention to these things. They have all the same complaints over there that we have over here.

Just thank god that they aren't listening to the Ubisoft forums.
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Is there a way to unbind my mouse from guard switching?
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>>171475145
>spot the ledditor

Listen hugbox autist, the issue with you redditors the fact you faggots upvote/downvote really fucking TERRIBLE idea's. If the fucking balancing team is active with you fucking retards then the game is kill.

You autists will upvote really fucking bad ideas like "MAKE PK AND OROCHI EVEN BETTER! WE LOVE THEM! ALSO MAKE GEAR STATS IN DUELS/BRAWLS!!" and downvote actual criticism because it'll make you all pissy someone is "negative" toward for honor when it's constructive criticism you massive redditfags.

You idiots do not need to be in charge of talking to the devs. Period
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>>171475551
>upvoting shit narcissistic "EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY" and down voting legitimate issued with things you love is a net positive for helping the game get fixed

I honestly want all redditors to be systematically gassed. You fuckers are ruining our game. Fuck off
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>>171475657
Huh. Good job posting about things that never happened, guy. Really enlightened me on the issue.
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>>171475789
>You fuckers are ruining our game. Fuck off

No, it is quite literally Ubisoft that is ruining our game. It's been two weeks since they announced the character and revenge gear nerfs and we still don't have a date for it and the connection issues seem to get worse by the day.
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>>171475789
>STAHP RUINING MUH GAME REEEE
Maybe if you're so worried about it you should contribute.
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>>171475323
t.soulsfag
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>>171475789
No, they're trying to fix the game while you're here uselessly crying on an autistic image board.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/6021xw/console_players_unite_and_rejoice_finally_weve/?st=J0GTQ8JG&sh=d3e5c7a5

DEADZONE SLIDERS CONFIRMED
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>>171475657
>You idiots do not need to be in charge of talking to the devs. Period
Then get on reddit and start talking to them yourself. Crying on 4chan isn't going to help.
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>>171475861
>the upvote/downvote system is never a bad thing you're just making shit up!

How fucking stupid are you? Yes it's a fucking terrible thing because the userbase of are majority of retards who have a collective attitude and barely any individual thought to things. You faggots are the worst at ideas, you create hugboxes and safe spaces where only your shit opinions matter and real critical thought is an attack on your fucking beliefs itself when it's literally just to state the problems to fix the problems.

I bet right now you think
>Warden vortex is fine!
>PK is fine! She's not OP
>Orochi exploit bug is apart of her kit! Keep it in!
>Raider is working as intended

And the best fucking one I've read
>LB DOESN'T NEED A REVAMP!

Get the fuck off of here fuckface, you are the worst type of person to suggest anything of value here.
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>>171476074
My point still stands.
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Hello?!

btw that lag jump happened in game, scared the shit out of me
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>>171476124
>reddit doing the heavy lifting and "fixing the game"

No redditfag that'd be the devs. You faggots aren't doing anything and your big narcissistic egos are the problem because all you push are bad ideas.
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>>171476297
I sincerely hope you're only pretending to be retarded. The reddit is crying about the exact opposite of everything you just posted. But I guess you wouldn't know that, because you'd rather post on an anime image board that tarnish your precious reputation and, god forbid, post in the website the devs actually listen to.
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>>171455361

tfw you dont take my friend request
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>>171460786
also consider that Uplay had several deals that saved you about 10 - 15 dollars.

also i want steam to crumble so bad, its fucking terrible how dronelike steam defenders are. its a nice service but it wont improve until another platform rivals it in anyway.
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Why does Conker have more untechable GB states than every other fucker?

>Press heavy attack in any way
>lmao no GB 4 u
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>>171476560
Citation needed fuckboi
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>>171476601
whats wrong with steam exactly? I play console but steam doesn't seem really that bad whenever I PC game
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>>171476601
Improve how?
I'm all for alternatives but right now steam has forums for each game, reviews, guides, achivements, profile, stream, chats, groups, refunds among other things so I don't see it happening anytime soon. Some things could be improved but there's so much quality of life already.
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>>171476678
Sales get worse every year
Terrible customer support
terrible game management
further emphasis on gambling, hats, and skins
literally makes money off of every community market transaction

there's probably a little more I'm forgetting but they treat their customers like trash, profit off of damn near everything we do, etc.

>>171476798
forums aren't an exclusive thing
reviews are nice and I'm glad they're polishing them up a little
Every platform has cheevos
the friend and chat system is all steam really has going for it, considering their refund system is really iffy depending on who you are.

several of my friends have gotten denied after purchasing games and trying to return them without even installing them, while me and a few OTHER friends have gotten refunded when clearly going over guidelines

I don't care how good it is now, especially with how we're only buying licenses to the games we play, it needs to improve considering the dropoff in quality shit the past 2 years.
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>>171476645
reddit.com/r/competitiveforhonor
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>warden spamming his charge
how the fuck did this pass Q&A
>the lead tester is a french fuck

OHHHH
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>>171451937
How lame. You're nothing compared to metalkid-san!
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>mfw Reddit complains about Conqueror's easy to dodge shield bash and calls it a "loop" when he AT MOST gets a free light for the lowest damage in the game and can do it twice before exhausting his stamina.
>>
>tfw playing on barely 30 fps, even with min settings, dropped it because of that
>tfw player numbers are dropping hard because Ubisoft doesn't give a fuck
Will this game be dead before I could really play?
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>>171477201
yes, twice over
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>>171477009
Nothing in here suggests these redditfags want to fix the game. You faggots want gear stats in duels? Get the fuck out
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Stopped playing this game like 2 weeks after it released.
Is there new shit since then added that might be worth to come back to? Like outfits, ranked? Anything.
Didn't really follow the news.
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>shubroki and me (warden) gaurding far point
>all he does is demon grab while I spam heavies

kek
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>>171477921
emotes, yes instead of fixing the game they've added new emotes and effects
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>>171477921
They've removed maps and added new emotes. That's it.
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>>171477921
They buffed PK so there's that.
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Can you dodge the catapult strike with Nobushi's Hidden Stance ?
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>>171477876
Just ignore the retard lol
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>Sunday
>Duel has low activity
Competitive game lads.
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>>171478528
>he plays the staring contest game mode
I wonder why no one queues for this.
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>>171478528
Duel is not even a popular gamemode for the majority of the playerbase, 4v4 modes are.
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I already accepted my fate against turtle Conqueror's that death is my only way out as Kensei. But how do I do against Warlords? I felt like I couldn't do much against the Warlord I just fought.
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>>171478646
>he plays the "pk always wins" game mode
lol
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>>171478691
If you accept a loss to Conqs then you might as well just kindly ask a Warlord to make it quick and just throw you off a cliff.
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>>171478691
it's the exact same shit
honestly, it's even more suffering
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>>171478742
So all of them?
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>>171478746
>>171478829
Warlord nerfs when?
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>>171475861

That helmet would be sweet as fuck with all the extra shit removed, does it exist for highest tier too?
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>>171478989
Never. Devs have given up on the game.
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>>171479034
Idiot.
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>defending a point with bro
>pk comes in
>we both slap her shit
>revenge mode
>she starts spamming zone
>I'll just block right
>chips me and my bud to death at the same time

jesus christ
In what fucking reality is this defendable
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>>171479224
I just want to add that the PK recovered from block stun faster than I did
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>>171479224
>>171479330
>PK hits you left and right faster than your character can react.
If you had a reaction time of 0.0000ms you still would take damage.

Let that sink in.
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>>171475653
No one?
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>rep 5 law, rep 3 berserker, rep 3 kensei
>decide to play warden a bit
Holy fuck. Even without shoulder bash this hero is broken.
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>>171479216
Prove me wrong fag. They don't even play their own game.
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>>171479474

you went from bottom tier to top tier

it's zerk, law and kensei that are broken

i don't play Warden, but he's probably one of the more balanced heroes in the game, he has good mixups, but there's counters to all of them
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>>171479647
Warden is shit and it's fucking laughable that people complain about him.
Conqueror too.
>Takes 25 hits to kill an Orochi.
"WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT?!?11/!"
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I just got into a game with 2 PKs on the enemy team and my entire team quit on entry

>>171479647
YOu don't know what counter means.
>>
tell me guys, why am I obsessed with playing the weakest & slowest heros? Law, Raider, Shugo.

Meanwhile everyone I face is a PK Warden Valk or Noobushit
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>>171479474
Not really. Warden should be considered the baseline class that everyone else is balanced around.
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>>171479841
>rock papers scissors fag is still in the thread

do you even play other fighters
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>>171479692
At least Warden has that vortex that forces some kind of mind games. Conq has good turtling and nothing else.
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>>171479696
>YOu don't know what counter means.

>implying i ever roll away from vortex

more like you don't know how to counter
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>>171479743

I play Lawbringer almost exclusively. I've become accustomed to the slow, steady playstyle. I still get fucked up by the fast classes, though.
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>>171479908
BUT I GOT HIT BY SHIELD BASH TWICE AND THEN THE CONQUEROR FELL OVER

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH THIS?
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>>171479939
explain to me how you counter a vortex
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>>171479885
do you?

warden is the first character they made and obviously the character the game is built around

RPS has also been a huge thing in fighting games since the fucking dawn of time

someone get this hothead outta hea
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>>171480003

depends on your character, usually a light attack, it stops the shoulder charge or guardbreak
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>>171480178
no it doesnt, thanks for playing
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>>171478989
Whenever the next balance patch is. The only characters we know for sure are getting nerfed are Warlord and Conq.

I fucking pray to god that PK gets the nerf bat too because she is worse than both of them.
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>>171480231

I really feel like this general will just find new shit to complain about
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>>171480143
>character game is built around
>didn't even get vortex until release

I wouldn't say huge thing, if anything its a gimmick some characters have to initiate. Most fightans are about either poking around defenses or chainign strings together or some combination of both. Warden can win JUST with his RPS shit, but even if that was removed, he still has a versatile toolkit. It's not a coincidence the OP characters are the only ones that can do combos. Most classes can't do that so don't tell me the game is based around warden.
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>>171479647
>Kensei
>Law
>Zerk
I hope you don't mean broken OP, because the latter 2 especially don't fit that bill. Kensei is fine. He can easily get parried on every single one of his attacks.
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>>171460857
>>171460939
>>171460939
you can r1 him out of the dash without even dodging as PK, remember that there are only certain actions he can do a bash off of
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>>171479990
>"Hard Hitter"
>Does less damage than Warden
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>>171480514
>didn't even get vortex until release

t. didn't play the alphas and betas
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>>171480475
oh no doubt, but that's how these type of game communities work. once warlord, conq, and pk get the nerf bat i pretty much guarantee you all complaining will be focused on warden unless they completely overbuff raider and lawbringer.
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Am I cancer?
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Why is conq's head so fucking tiny?
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>>171480514
>didn't get vortex until release
did you play either of the alphas? There were several anons who posted the vortex and people were creaming themselves over how fucking hard they destroyed opponents in duel
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>>171480667
rah
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>>171480619
>>171480679
They didnt add the GB cancel until release which made it ridiculously improved.
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>>171480667
That's just what you look like when you're swole.
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>>171480514
what brings people to talk out of their ass like this?
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>>171480795
So you're confirming you didn't play before release, okay. He always had the GB cancel.

Warlord had it too, but his got REMOVED before release.
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>>171480934
I wasn't on the thread but I didn play in the betas. I might be completely wrong, but I literally never saw anyone do it, and it wasn't listed in the move list. Fuck me then.,
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Am I gay?

Also, should I play Zerk?
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Why in the name of fuck would they nerf conq

There are so many characters with chainable combos that never ever run out of steam like Conq does after twice

Looking at you valk
This is horseshit
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anyone wondering why conq is op watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feuVBqkWEbk&t=0s
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>>171481114
Exactly what part of that is bullshit vs a warden
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>>171481069
conq even more broken than Pk or warlord
>Conq does after twice
conq bash cost like 2% of total stamina
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See, what I don't understand is what does that one faggot mean by "buff other classes to be like warden"

Do you mean to give the other classes the same exact combo? Cus thats still not balanced if the other characters have to be turned into warden to matter. Valk is already really similar and has the exact same counter methods.
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>>171481217
watch the video
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>>171481041
>I literally never saw anyone do it
Go look up some videos of competent Beta players. You probably never saw anyone do it because, surprise, most people are normies and don't know about that sort of tech (and don't experiment or look at character videos) until some YouTuber or Twitch streamer shows it off.
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>>171481360
If you want to blame me for not experimenting, I didn't really imagine that a tackle could be canceled into a grab. It barely makes sense. Why should one CC that opens up the opponent cancel into a completely different kind of CC that also opens up the opponent.
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>>171481498
both of which are countered by either attacking or dash attacking holy shit someone CHAIN THIS CHARACTER TO A PLANK AND NERF HIM
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>>171480642

Definitely one of the infected.
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>>171481567
>attacking or dash attacking
Doesn't even really work half the time, and warden can just read it and counter your own attempt to punish.
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>>171481651
works literally every time, his only option is to cancel and either block or parry
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>>171481764
nope, I can go for the dash attack and he just grabs me about 50% of the time. Blame netcode or whatever, fact is that its not a sure counter. Also he can just hold the tackle, gaining hyper. And what do you mean his "only" option is to cancel and parry. He can do that on read. As soon as you dash, he can just cancel and poise himself to counter.
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All right, Conq/Warlord mains. How would you nerf your own character?
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>>171481879
well sorry bra i gotta tell you right now that you just suck if you're getting thrown out of your dash attacks

keep practicing, champ
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>>171481069
Conq is broken you faggot, he's considered top tier for a reason
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>>171481940
practice what exactly?
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>AFK farmers all banned/ragequit
>Weebs master race now firmly in the saddle
>Total map control 24/7

Post your face when we sweep the rest of the season because the only reason to keep playing this shitty game is to live out your Nothing Personal Kid fantasies.
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>>171481940
You know on the topic of the warden vortex, why is it exactly people say its the solution to the defenseive meta? It makes you hyper defensive and fucks you up if you cant mount a defense.
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>>171481894
Warlord main here

>Headbutt costs much more stamina, has slightly longer start up, and has no tracking properties on side dodges. However, stamina damage is increased.
>Armor on heavy attacks doesn't kick in until mid swing
>Throw distance cut in half, as it stands right now Warlord is better at Raider's gimmick than Raider.
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>>171482309

Seems like a good starting point.
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>>171481894
for conq, remove shitty bash damage feat, remove the heal.
In general just make his bash shorter and and he'll be fine
for Warlord, make headbutt slower and remove free followup hits. Make his guardbreak push move way way shorter and remove ability to follow up unless you hit a wall
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>>171480642
>never played lawbringer even once
I personally think you are fine, but this board is full LB mains stroking their victim complexes, so prepare to be boo'd.
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>playerbase decrease
>salt in chat increase
?????
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>>171480642

You seem like a person who tried playing vikings but didnt like them so you went back to samurai and knights
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>>171482575
I want to turn off chat in this game, because the amount of rage and name-calling is literally depressing.

But I've built a friendlist in this game from scratch by having chat switched on, and meeting some genuine bros. I don't want to miss out on that

But the salt... It actually makes me want to quit.
Wat do?
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>>171482575
>people leave
>spammers remain
?????
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How to fix the fuck out of Raider:

Unshackle stunning tap from Top.
CHARACTER FIXED. GEE THAT WAS HARD.
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>>171480609
>Hard Hitter
>Does less damage than absolutely everyone in the game
Not even memeing
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>>171482575
It is like the majority of the players have inflated egos who think they are hot shit.

Ego vs. ego= conflict
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>>171479330
>PK being autistic and just constantly spamming smoke attack in a 3v3
>I'm in the middle of the fray as conq :^)
>PK zone attack cones from the same direction and lightning fast
>I have heal on block and block all, constantly and near-instantly refilling my health bar.

I love it
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>>171482861
Maybe they are implying this in description considering 4x4's trait with shield bash damage?
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>>171482793
You mean be able to cancel into a Stunning Tap that can come from any direction?
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>>171483191
no

they are talking about his charged heavy

it's the flail spinning move that you never use
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>>171482771
Just ignore it and enjoy the positive aspects of the game
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>>171483126
Zone attack*

Fucking phone posting
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>>171482771
>I don't want to look at the best part of any competitive game

I don't know.. Put a piece of paper bottom-left corner of your screen anon.
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>>171482575
Tfw all the MLG fat sweaty nerds are still playing 1v1/2v2

Tfw just having fun in 4v4 modes now
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>>171482575
before, people didn't know about all the heros and their gimmicks. They thought things were balanced and accepted being beaten because they thought they lost to pure skill.

Now they know and see shitty featspammers, PK / Valk light spammers, revenge gear, revenge knockdown spammers (cong valk etc)

People get mad when others have advantages and they exploit all their tools
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>>171483335
The conqs charged heavy can be used to good effect if you rely on it's tricky range and speed.
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Have they announced when the Lawbringer buff will be out?
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How many months/years do you think it'll take for them to balance things enough for them to feel FAIR no matter which mode you were in?
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>>171476589
Who are you m8 i will do it right now.
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>>171483648
They could do it all within the week a they paid attention. But it will never happen. Even when they do try to fix characters they wildly over-modify them like Valkyrie.
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>>171483748
Tfw want to play Raider but his feats are hot garbage
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>>171479647
>Zerk, Law, and Kensei
>Broken
How, everyone there is built to feint and mind game the enemy, except maybe Law, who is built to parry and harass people into no stam oblivion.
Unless you mean broken as in they suck, which is also not true about everyone there but Law
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>>171483842
>everyone there is built to feint
They can't do anything the other heroes can't (except conk)
Warden can play the same mind games but better since they attack faster and unlike other characters, have a true combo.
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>Petemoo and Extheleon got raped on 1st round of 2x2 "tournament"
http://challonge.com/brawlersguild1
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>sunday
>barely over 10k people playing on steam

Jesus Christ
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>>171483974
Sypher and Keehu leveled the fuck up

They were complete jokes before but they're rampaging through this tourney with ease now
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>>171483974
Hey they got 1 win. Most of the matches have been 5-0s.

Sypher and Keehu are fun to watch.
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>>171483740
Balancing a game isn't that easy. A single buff/nerf to a character may affect the viability of several by proxy. Even my most optimistic approximation would be 2 months.

Also while you can make a game balanced, you can never satisfy everyone with it. Complaining wouldn't stop for sure, no matter how well the game would actually be balanced.
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>>171483974
>still no console tournies
PC fags barely play this game
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Catapult needs 2-3 times the windup desu.
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>>171481352
Still don't see it
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>>171484086
A tournament on consoles with their 30 fps... NOPE! No thanks!
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>>171484192
PKs. PKs would win.
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>>171483785
Just use the stock viking feats like bear trap and fire bomb, those are fun.
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>>171483842

i meant broken as in they are underperforming in 1v1 and 2v2

Law is straight up underpowered, Zerk and Kensei don't have enough versatility or mixups
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>>171484239
Does anybody else on console even see PKs twitchstreemer zone attack and feint
Or anyone feint or cancel consistently at all unless you're like rank 4 or higher
Just send like the playstyle is a little different
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>>171482793
it's not a stunning tap if it doesn't hit the head

to fix raider, simply let him heavy from guardbreak
that's it
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>>171484478
I wish they would nerf all attacks from guardbreak except maybe lights.
Only wallstuns guarantee a heavy and suddenly parries aren't so punishing anymore.
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>>171484473
Yes.
There's constant feints and cancels at like the 80% winrate bracket in duels.

Then there are PKs who light and zone and nothing else. Had one person on PS4 that would sprint around, run up and dodge back, and keep doing that over and over until she could get in and chip away with a light. Rinse repeat the whole duel.
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>Feint a heavy
>Opponent falls for it
>Feints their GB attempt on reaction?
I'm getting too old for these games. What the actual fuck.
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>Always in the team that dies 3 seconds in
Truly I am among the cursed
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>>171484175
then you have some problems
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>>171484868
That's not hard to do
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>>171484868
Meant a parry attempt, sorry about that.
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>>171481352
>defensive play is strong in this game
>the most defensive class is very good at defending
>wow

Nothing really bs happens here, the warden just fucks up often cause he gets psyched out after the first few rounds.
Ex. He goes for shoulder bashes to punish the conq missing a shield bash instead of waiting to block/parry the light follow-up even tough he says he knows it won't work.
He consistently fails to pressure the conq when out of stamina.
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i fucking quit lawbringer, he's fucking shit and anyone that plays him is fucking delusional in thinking they'll fix this shitty ass class.

time to shit up the game with warden
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>>171484868

Just do what I do; tell yourself it was a script kiddie and get on with it. Everyone who is beating you has to be cheating, otherwise how could you derive any enjoyment from the game?
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>>171484657
parries need to be punishing or else lightspammers will never stop being relevant
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>>171485038
>Patch to improve stability
>Constantly getting stutters where things will suddenly be super different from where I thought I was
>Usually ends with me eating chunks of damage
>Happening every fucking duel for the past week
>None of this before the patch

This shit is really grating.
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>>171485318
No reply meant, disregard that lawguy.
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>>171485219
theyre already nearly impossible to match guard with so I don't know what the difference would be
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>>171485219
>>171484657
>Allow GB throw tech after initiation if you guess the direction you'll be tossed towards
>Increase blocked light frame disadvantage enough to guarantee a light attack punish.

Would that make GB too bad?
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To the shitters saying a light attack cancel's a warden's bash.

I'm playing warden right now and i can tell that it doesn't work. I've been canceling people out of their lights for the past hour.
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Nobushi has such comfy coats. It is a real shame that it is impossible to edit her pants though.
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>>171485035
you fail to realize that oos is meaningless if they just open distance
and conq will never take damage except wen out of stamina
and warden can only realistically punish conq with a gb, but good luck parrying him when he can feint his lights and counter your gb attempts with shield bash
also conq is the only hero where light parry does not guarantee a heavy, or needs to parry a heavy to get a free gb
aaand his heavies are considered long range

every single conq that plays him well says he is complete bulshit
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>>171485531
I kind of wish that GB was a risky move that existed only to counter turtles and provided some nice catchup damage.

Right now its the ONLY way to damage people.
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>>171484868
Just take adderall.

It'll put your reaction time at your peak again
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>>171485670
>Right now its the ONLY way to damage people.
Parry → GB to be more precise. But I agree. Either that or characters with stagger/wall loops.
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>>171483974
>http://challonge.com/brawlersguild1
>people trying to play PK with nobushi sidekick for more way of the shark damage
>nobushi almost always eats shit instantly
when will block speed get normalized?
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when can we just remove vortexes/50/50s or whatever you call them entirely from the game
people shouldnt have to guess to get out of a combo
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>>171485854
You need 50/50's but not an endless one that doesn't cost stamina.
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>>171484257
I can see Law and Zerk underperforming against a warden due to his ability to do everything they can, but I think Kensei can mindgame a warden enough as long as the warden isn't aggro as hell
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>>171481114
I like how Extheleon is bitching about any class he's losing to.
>>
give me (you)s
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>>171485854
The only issue is when you can just open with them without putting many chips on the table as the guy throwing out the 50/50.

If you already earned your hitconfirm, then having a 50/50 is fine. The alternative is having a guaranteed followup that does half the damage, which just means less player interaction.

Though 50/50's that loop back into themselves (vortexes) are another matter.
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@171486118
For what
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171486118
No, fuck off
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>>171486118
let me show you how it's done
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>>171486252
more
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>>171486118
>0:17
>feint into CCS hits before his parry attempt even comes out
my fucking sides, when will LB get buffed?
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>>171486286
Why were you just gaining revenge for nothing
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>>171486347
Bleed damage.
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>>171481258
He's not referring to bash, but the bash mix up. Since he needs to throw a high stamina cost heavy in between. Its about 2-4 heavies between bashes, depending on gear, before exhaustion.
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My Lawbringer is secretly black underneath
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Offensive characters need an ability to keep on pressure.
Defensive characters need HIGH damage punishes.

>TFW PK has both while some of the supposedly offensive or defensive characters have neither
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>>171486378
>gear
>conq
>heavy
what are you on about?
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>>171483974
>PK and shugo vs PK and Warlord
>Shugo desparately tries to fight Warlord instead of the enemy PK
>Warlord desparately tries to fight the enem PK instead of the Shugo
>Ring around the rosie ensues
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>>171486449
I'm curious as to wtf kenesei is supposed to be. he has all these combo string options but none of them are safe. he has some throw combos but none of them are very good.
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>>171481258
The only reliable damage option after a conq shield bash is a light attack unless they push you to a wall with the bash.

Wall loop is the only way for conqueror to deal any good damage. It's easily avoidable if you know how to position yourself.
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>>171486632
chains are basically fun new moves to feint
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>>171486632
top light machine

i whiff a lot of normals since he has ridiculous range to line up a fake out unblockable (it can be cancelled by dash as well as light/heavy/feint).
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>>171486552

>Brawl with Shugo
>Desperately try to fight the enemy Warden instead of the enemy Nobushi
>Teammate totally ignores this and focuses on getting the warden as many Revenge procs are humanly possible
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>>171486702
You know, I've never thought of that.
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>>171486632
To them Kensei was probably supposed to be an unblockable/side un-interruptable finisher mixup character. Only the devs didn't expect people to learn to parry chains so well in the middle of them.
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>>171486856
His lights are as slow as some peoples heavies. Also can anyone tell me what the blue flow on his sword is supposed to be when you do light2's?
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>>171486971
it just means you're doing a chain attack, all chains glow blue
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>>171486998
I honestly didn't notice because I never do them.
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>tfw you train orochi to expect uninterrupted shoulders in the previous round

>>171486653
only bash after a heavy has a wallstun and gl hitting that
the problem is, conq himself is unpunishable
only way to damage him is to catch him mid dash witch is almost impossible or parry his attack and good conq will just cancel it with fullguard into shieldbash

>>171486971
it means your attacks are in a combo
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>>171486552

Someone brought a Shugoki to a tournament? And won a round?
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>>171487214
what do you mean?
shugoki is strong as fuck in 2v2s
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>>171487175
Nice. Side note, you can get top heavies off of parried lights, including Orochi and 'zerker dash attacks. Just forgo the GB.
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>>171487290

I wish I could make use of that in brawl without my teammate crying.
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>>171487370
yeh, i keep forgetting that
are kenseis the same?
i remember them being punished on block or some shit
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>>171485318
webm related, probably the most egregious example from today, but it happens every fucking fight.

Any ideas on how to fix this garbage?
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>AI orders
Remove them
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>>171487487
I think, yeah.

PKs are safe because their's is a dash heavy. Isn't that funny, how PKs have the only dash attack that can't be top heavy punished?
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>>171487698
I don't mind AI orders really. PvP skirmish orders I do mind though.
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>>171487575
Might be you're losing packets.
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>>171487763
>kensei is slower and it counts as a light
fucking why
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>>171487874
playing kensei is literal fucking suffering
did you know that if you just ///BLOCK/// kensei's dash attack, you can get an untechable gb after?
epic, right?
cunts
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>>171487874
And PK's being heavies means she can get a free bleed poke after each one that lands, because she can do that on every heavy.

Balance haha
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>see people with high rep
>everyone has an ugly golden "treasure" look on their weapon / armor
get some imagination and taste you shitfaces

Nothing annoys me as much as random golden ornaments and axes on a raider or berserker.

Also,
>that Kensei hydra ornament
>mfw someone somewhere thinks it's cool
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>>171461018
Lol its not unpunishable, a PK can do a quick light attack and cancel the bash, infact anyone who has a fast attack can.

>>171460939
The Shug can eat the bash and GB you as soon as you make contact, leading to a heavy swing and then a back break if you are put into a wall.
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>>171488003
>Kensei's unique weapon looks like a spaghetti sword

Like, it might have been cool if the blade was supposed to be modeled like fire, like coming out of a dragon's maw on the hilt but no. It' just a spaghetti sword.
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Trying high defense/low attack Lawbringer now...
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>>171488003
But every piece of high rep gear is like that, people don't have taste because the gear doesn't ever look good 90% of the time, always a guady gold with eyeballs while armor is really dark, spiky and wierd and looks nothing like their starting gear. You lose the aesthetic you loved for some stupid gold
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>spent a fuckload of steel on max gearing my warden and getting the mythic outfit
no regrets desu
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>"Just don't fight near an edge, bro!"
>Regarding fighting a Warlord.
Yeah because his GB doesn't carry you 15 miles or his meme attack or his headbutt or his ZA or his heavy or his...
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>>171488003
is this good enough master?
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>>171488003
Gilgamesh sword is probably the ugliest thing ever designed
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>>171487803
>Get 10 Honorable kills in Skirmish (PvP)!
>Get 5 revives in Skirmish (PvP)!
>Get 5 executions before the shitstorm clusterfuckery hits you in Skirmish (PvP)!
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>>171488728
>Ribbed for her pleasure
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>>171488587
I got about 50K steel by playing every day since release and I'm considering getting the Mythic outfits for Raider and zerker (for the lightning effect alone) but I'd like to see the new Viking classes first.
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>>171488598
>"Parry the zones and lights"
>PK
Boi I'll need some overdosing levels of adderall to put up with that on console
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>>171488598
>Warden vortex can be """countered"""
>he just reads your reactions and counters your counter
>>
WHY THE FUCK ROACHES AND PKS ZONES ARE CONSIDERED LONG RANGE?
YOU GET LITERALLY NOTHING AFTER PARRYING THEM
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>>171488940
Best thing about fighting a PK as Conqueror is how all your attacks rely on GB and you can't even GB her :^)
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>>171488552
that's not the problem, the problem is people choosing shitty spikes and gold when there are cool options without such pointless crap.

People literally use them for no other reason than "it's rare" or "it's high rep"
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>>171488003
Why have gold when i can feast for eternity with the gods in Valhalla?
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>>171481894
Make shield bash punishable if dodged. Either make gb untechable or light attacks after unblockable. Makes spammy gameplay less viable and conq gameplay more about reading opponent.
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>>171489114
I agree, nothing looks more out of place than the Viking's High Level Gold™ items. I don't use a gold shield for Conqueror because he's supposed to be some prisoner/slave asshat not the fucking king with decorative "armour" that serves absolutely no purpose because it's made of soft metal.
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>>171489159

Okay, Leoric...
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>>171488667
>studded leather
Back to D&D with you.
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>>171488667
remove paisley from the helmet
&
add a minimalistic ornament like the wings or something
Then it's perfect
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>>171487953
dont be sorry, all PK need to be bullied
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>>171489114
Yeah, I haven't been too deep into the high rep guild, but I always saw the ugly spiky gold and thought that was commonplace, but I'm seeing lower level gear popping up with far better stats but the same look, so yeah, people like rare crap just because it is rare, not looks
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>>171489270
>wings
>on a helmet
no thanks
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>>171488003
I tried to go for the most functional of the golden axe looks and not just that spikey green monstrosity you get for a unique.
Dark axes all are either covered in iron which would make them weigh a ton or look like they're made of rotting driftwood.

Only other archetype for Heroics is the skull look on Raider (skull axe head, pommel, helmet, double skull ornament) all of which need you to use the edgiest colour patterns and armor to even match.
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>Complaining characters are OP and then mentioning their Meme Feats.

Stop this, feats are all bullshit.
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>>171489270
>minimalistic ornament
Ridged 2 that looks like the normal one except without the dumb spikes, when?
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https://twitter.com/greenbrimhat/status/843528983803297792

>ping pong paddle
>RP stand your ground shit
>complete shit

it fits
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>>171455224
warden.

just spam heavy and use his passive to always regain health and stamina

go all the way up to where they spawn, find a gate or something narrow all the minions pass through though, that way none will get past you.

this should be the dominion meta, a vanguard needs to keep mid locked down and getting his own +1 renown a second from killing minions.

fastest way to get lvl 4 feat too, then you can leave for a second and catapult one of the other zones
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>>171489270
I'd recommend Fleur, unless you're autistic. It won't take material color, but the difference between steel and silver will be unnoticeable in game.
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>>171489159
Fancy pants, pointless spikes (no pun intended) and a golden crown-horn thing? why? you were so close too

For raider I'd say the coolest ornament is the low horn you get from story
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>>171455752
maybe it stacks funny with her bleed

>1.5 extra damage from bleed or whatever it is
>2x damage from revenge
3.5x damage.

also her zone does ridiculous damage.
once got chunked for 1/3rd of my health as shugoki from that
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>>171489371
considering the options warden has, it's the best or atleast top 3 ornaments he has.
I die a little inside when I see people use some shitty lions, dragons and birds on their heads
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Is it normal for a fatman to take off 70% off a Nobushi's health in one hit?

I think my teammate just solo'ed brawl mode with just a handful of hits.
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Hows the population on this game? i wanted to get it when it came out and heard it was actually a good game, but my colleges network prevents me from playing online, but everyone seems to have stopped talking about it so i was wondering if its dead
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>>171489705
A fully charged heavy hits for like half of most characters health.
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>>171489705
in revenge mode on a knocked down assassin, yes.
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>>171489659
Attack and Revenge attack (and Sharpen) all stack bleed
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>>171489413
Most feats except the Renown 3 direct damage ones (Crossbow,Javalin/Handaxe, Yumi) and Catapult are fine.
Nothing worse than being in the middle of a fight with someone and essentially having a gun pulled on you or a fucking airstrike called in to obliterate your entire team.

They need a damage nerf, because the bows shouldn't be doing 3/4 of your health and Catapult should not ever be able to 1shot you from full health
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>>171489525
Pants are like Pirates imo, spikes cause they seem to add spikes on all purple gear, and the ornament is my favorite stricktly got the set for it.
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>>171459114
it was because so many people were disconnecting from getting ledged at C.

when they come back, mid at river fort wont have ledges, C on highfort will have safety nets under all the bridges
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>>171489849
Arrow Volley is WAY worse than Catapult. It goes on for like 15 minutes and covers a massive fucking area so that even if you move out of the AoE indicator you're still dead.
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>>171489413
>Main zerk
>Reach final feat
>Activate "berzerker" feat as deathmatch round starts and throw my battle axe
>Damage boost affects axe and melts 3 bars of health or 70 damage
>Heavy them once as I rush with sprint speed berzerker feat gives me and win fight
This is just not right
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>>171489872
Is this in english
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>>171460824
you can block if they dodge the bash.
that means you can probably parry

>>171460939
shugoki can. shugoki can dodge valks shield sweep too so i dont know what youre on about
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>>171489872
You can get purple gear of all the tiers, you don't have to limit yourself to the "new stuff" just because they're the last thing you unlocked.

I swear, same thing with colors, people pick the ugly radioactive green just because it's a high rep thing.
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>>171489736
It's fine. Population size isn't the biggest worry when the largest matches you need to field are 8 people.

The game is unique enough to maintain a dedicated core of players for a good long while to come, as long as Ubi keeps updating the game and fixing errors. We'll see if they can manage.
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CONQUEROR'S SHIELD BASH IS NOT UNPUNISHABLE DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES
>CONQUEROR'S SHIELD BASH IS NOT UNPUNISHABLE DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES
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>CONQUEROR'S SHIELD BASH IS NOT UNPUNISHABLE DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES
CONQUEROR'S SHIELD BASH IS NOT UNPUNISHABLE DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES
>CONQUEROR'S SHIELD BASH IS NOT UNPUNISHABLE DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES
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>CONQUEROR'S SHIELD BASH IS NOT UNPUNISHABLE DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES
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>>171490154
Post a webm of it being punished. The only thing I know for sure you can do is to dodge it and parry the hit, which goes out the window if they decide not to swing unless the bash lands.
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>haven't played for around a week
>hear warlord got nerfed
>go try out fullblock
>blockframes do come out later, as stated
>nice
>but
>activation stamina is consumed just as early as usual for some reason
>can still tech while fullblocking
this game will never be balanced
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>>171490154
Just side step dude
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>>171465802
shes low risk, since a parry doesnt give a free gb for most people.

she just gets shut down by dodge attacks and shields
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>>171490253
nobushi can if she dodges as soon as conq dodges and gbs him just at the right time
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>>171489849

They are also telegraphed for like a fucking YEAR before anything happens.

If anything, they should get buffed to come out faster.
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>>171490154
>>171490253
Dodge works most of the time, both side and even back if there's room for it. And unlike warden conq can't cancel their shield bash to a GB if they suspect you to dodge.
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>>171490396
A dodge is not a punish.
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>>171488003
how do u like my chaos warrior
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>>171490392
catapult is faster than a dodge roll
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>>171490297
Why would you not be able to tech while blocking? That's how GB interactions work. With few exceptions, you're only untechable if you're caught in frames where you're not blocking.
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What's the hero that can do the coolest undocumented shit?

Like, shit that doesn't show on his moveset.
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>>171490253
>Play zerk, combo sidestep shimmy with light
Only one I can think of right now
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>>171489525
You mean bull horns? Yeah I'd say it's the only good 'realistic' horn set that isn't covered in gold.
All the other ones are either broken or just look like plain shit.
Low horns is the one you get for preorder. That one looks good exclusively on the chainmail helmets

His pants are shit though I agree.
He needs to switch over to Polaris or the epic Aravis (forget the name, same set as arms though)
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>>171490396
back dodge does not work, unless you are a pk
you can't gb him after that
he can punish you with light if you try to gb

how do oyu punish conq again?
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>>171490592
Play as Ass Ass Man
Dodge left/right + attack
Enjoy your punish
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>>171490559
Pk can't be blocked
Valk can GB after dodges
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>>171490545
it would just be a good way to nerf fullblock

I mean come on, GB stands for "Guard Break". Intuitively you'd think that would be the one time you actually would get a guaranteed grab in For Defense.
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>>171467393
>Grab is okay for the heal, but it wont count as an execution.
fucking great damage

>Sure it's fun to batter people across the room, but the damage is pathetic compared to his regular heavys.

guranteed backbreaker if you golf swing them into a wall where you are in range to bearhug

>It doesn't even knockdown or wall splat people, it's just a static animation that wont even go to the direction where you're aiming looking.

it knocks people into hazards and does over a bar of damage

> because god knows you'll never get a ledge kill with it if your enemy has even half a braincell.
severely limits your opponents positioning.
he just struggles against pk and valk because their lights are so fast, pk especially since her bleed does so much extra damage
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>>171489938
Arrow Volley is at least survivable if you started out with more than 1/3 health.
If you get caught in Catapult you're just fucking dead.
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i think this orochi gave up

>>171490638
>>171490564
conq recovers so fast after the bash that he can parry your side attack
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>>171490508
This one is a solid 8/10
Change the chest symbol and it's atleast a 9
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>>171490659

Serious question.
Is there ANYTHING a Raider can do to a good Shugo? I don't see any way to break his armor and not eat shit for it.
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>>171470993
pc problems.

why not buy a ps4 so you only play with europeans and americans, or xbone to only play with americans and the ultra rare mexican
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>>171490838
Parry.
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>>171490917

>Shugoki
>Attacking first
>EVER

I said a GOOD shugo...
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>>171451914
>Duel
>Meet PK
>Light -> Soft-feint -> Zone spam all day
>She gets me twice.
>I outright tell PK soft feints won't work anymore.
>Proceed to CGB, Parry and kill her
>About to even the score
>PK Ragequits.

Why are Peackeepers to fucking bad? If they feel they can't light spam fast enough or GB enough they just leave the match.
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>>171490659
>fucking great damage
except he can do a heavy for the same if not more damage (unless low enough to instakill)

>guranteed backbreaker if you golf swing them into a wall where you are in range to bearhug
I call bullshit
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>>171490990
Shugs will through out lights sometimes.
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>>171475216
you cant hero stack in brawl. if you main a top tier you need to learn something else
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>>171490990
>Shugoki
>Attacking first
>EVER

Why would he do that?
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>>171490854
Nah, it's just a lagswitching faggot, he's playing from France and I am too, the fights went perfectly until he died. He tried to rollback every single execution we had on him.
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>>171476152
thats like a 4chan janitor saying they forwarded a suggestion to hiroshimoot
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>>171490838
Even if he techs your grab his armor breaks, and his attacks certainly aren't fast enough to hit you on reaction to seeing your grab attempt come out. This is ultimately what balances shugoki's armor mechanic out, as he needs to actually be playing offense if he wants his armor to get used since playing the waiting game and not swinging until you see an attack to trade with results in him getting grabbed and losing it. If he's playing offense, that means you can use dodge attacks, parries, etc. If not, as stated, grab him to pop his armor then wail on him because he has slow interruptable attacks and slow stance changing.
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>>171476297
warden vortex is fine.

just roll away or if you are an assassin choose between dodge attacking or using a light
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Any tips on how to take advantage of an out of stamina opponent as LB? I've seen some people say that he's supposed to be good at punishing out of stamina people but I don't see how he has anyway of doing so more than anyone else.
Usually I just try to see if they panic dodge when I run at them for the free guardbreak but if they keep a level head I have no idea what I can do to them.
GB will be met with CGB.
Most people don't risk going for the parry when out of stamina so feints don't work.
They can still dodge longarm and shoves.
The most it feels like I can do is fish for top lights to chip off a small amount of health.
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>>171491087
I sure hope you've changed this outfit or I'm going to keep commenting on it whenever I see it.
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>>171491087
>bucket helm
>wings to look like a paladin
>engraved shoulders with no paint
>silver armor
You got that right at least
>both of you are wearing green puke
Fucking. Why.
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>>171491087
>parries the club while it's literally in his skull
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>>171478860
warlord and shugoki are the kings of dominion as long as your teammates can win their own 1v1s while you are setting up free kills for them or ledging everyone else
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>>171491370
It isn't that he's good at punishing people who don't have stamina, but rather that you get fairly high reward if you manage to do so. As far as options go lawbringer isn't "good" at anything, his selling point is that he has a lot of health and can do a lot of damage if you knock someone over or parry a light.
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>>171491364
>dodge attacking or using a light
neither of those work
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>>171491451
THEIR ARMOR HAS NO EQUAL
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Help, /fhg/. In between fulfilling orders as Lawbringer, I've been trying out Warden. I hardly use shoulder charge and I've been doing okay, but people still complain because I end combos with the zone attack. I've had people with five reps on me accuse me of being bad at the game for beating them with it once.

Is the zone attack really that OP?
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When will the devs realise that throwing people off cliffs is not what people that enjoy duels want?
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>>171491618
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>>171491607
They don't, but if you have them it turns the 50/50 into 25/25/25/25
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>>171491673

I really enjoy throwing people off cliffs in duels...
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>>171491629
JAPANESE KANABO FOLDED ONE GORILLION TIMES

SMASH THROUGH PUNY EUROPEAN SWORD IN ONE BLOW
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>Elimination as a raider
>get revengegeared, ledged and ganked for 4 rounds
>got no feats because died so much without any takedowns
>last round against a 108 conq
>throws cata
>misses
>activates his "juggernaut"
>I run to take a shield pickup and return immediately so he doesn't have to walk around
>calls me a coward noob and disconnects without even fighting

What is with this mentality? they think they're allowed to abuse all their feats and gear but if I get a shield pickup solely as a revenge for their dickery, I'm the coward?
That's rich
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>>171481114
that was awesome
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>>171491762
I bet you really enjoy sucking cock irl too
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>>171483196
wen you look at his movelist, it says he has a passive that lets him cancel a heavy into a stunning tap, how do you do this?

do you just feint the heavy then do a tap? if so why is that a passive, he could do the same thing without it
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>>171491634
Only if you're a fag who abuses the indicator glitch. Otherwise rep 5 players are shitters for complaining because that's unsafe on block
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>>171491876

What's the indicator glitch? I've been attacking left and then zone attacking, does that count?
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>>171491875
no, you just press light attack during start up of heavy.

you can wait a bit or do it instantly after pressing heavy
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>>171491875
A cancel and a feint are different things. A cancel converts from one move to another without feinting the former, seamlessly. It's similar to the zone attack indicator abuse, you see him start a side heavy and then surprise it's a top attack instead with no break in between.
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>>171491634
Wardens zone can be pretty ridiculous because of it's speed and the fact there's no lead with an indicator for the amount of damage it does.
Often people say you end up leaving your guard high or to the left because you have to choose to react to either top light or zone but not both.

It's 3rd fastest in the game behind Orochi and Peacekeeper, both of which many people think need a nerf, so it's logical to want to have the next best after those looked at on an already top tier character without the attack.
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>>171491673

The low-hazard maps are fucking cancer.
All they do is favor PK.

>>171491848

lelumadetc
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>>171492072

Well, it's not like I come out of nowhere with it. Whenever I use one of my combos, I end with it. I'm predictable as fuck right now.
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>>171492072
Warden zone is unsafe on block, making it the most fair of the four "fast" zone attacks.
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>>171491875
Same way you feint a heavy, except instead of hitting B to feint, you hit light to do a top light Stunning Tap, regardless of where your heavy started. This is Raider's only true mix-up (apart from the mid-combo zone attack) that's baked in.
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>>171482517
Where did the Lawbringer touch you?

I swear you are the same one poster generalizing people who play Lawbringer.
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>>171492153
>low-hazard maps are cancer
>All they do is favor PK
???????????
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>>171491765
FORDED IRONWOOD BETTUR ZHAN PUNY EUROPEAN SOFT WOOD
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>>171492235
But they don't need to keep their gaurd in that direction, meaning its guaranteed if the opponent just changed direction away, lets say to predict the top attack
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>>171491634
As a combo finisher not really, I don't even think it's optimal

Whats OP about zone attacks in general is that you don't need to switch stance to use them (i.e. you don't need to throw out an 8 frame "look at me I've moved my sword to the right" telegraph), and that on top of that they're also straight up faster than most attacks for no good reason. And to make matters worse, if you brush the inputs properly (press one than the other) the game will think the first input is it's own attack, but change it into a zone during the startup, breifly feeding your opponent a fake indicator.

Warden's zone has a lot of reach, but PK's zone is literally unreachable; if she throws out a top light or something, you have zero way of knowing that it isn't actually just a zone attack that's had the input brushed, and you can't wait for the zone attack indicator to pop up since you won't have enough time to react then change stance once it actually appears, so you're forced to just guess unless you can block from multiple directions at once.
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>>171492235
What do you counterattack with? I block the zone but I'm always out of range for a guardbreak.
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>>171492281

More room to move favors the more mobile character.
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W H E N
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>>171491087
How did you parry a top attack from right guard?
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>>171492365
>an attack meant to cut down multiple people
>faster than a focused strike for one person, and does about as much damage
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>>171489938
arrow volley doesnt hit where you aim it until like the 3rd volley. you can literally just walk away.

only good during fights where they enemy is tunnel visioned, or if you know how to aim it, even then anyone can move away on reaction unlike the catapult where slow people cant escape
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So which stat is better gain or attack? Warden if it matters.
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>>171491986
It's when you instead of just pressing both buttons at once, you press heavy then add light moments after, resulting in what's basically a lightning fast feint into some because your indicator shows you're attacking from one direction and immediately changes to the zone.
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>>171491986
Hold you guard on the opposite side of the ZA indicator, it's not really an exploit, it's caused by your light+heavy double press not being exactly pin point accurate, I don't think it will ever be fixed.
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>>171490838
he can grab him during heavy startup.

or else feint the unblockable a ton since shugokis love to parry.

if you stunning tap a shugoki and he tries to trade, but you hit first, he will be exhausted
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>People that get mad at you when you tech their GB and it sends them off a ledge

Like what the fuck was I supposed to do nigga, eat the hit?

Ledged him on purpose the third round, just to piss him off. He was out of the game before his body hit the ground.
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>>171492391
Guardbreak. It's not like he recoils backwards from the zone, zones count as heavies for blocking. I've literally never been out of range after blocking a Warden zone.
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>>171492480
>costs half of your stamina
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>>171492398
hazards mean fires, ledges, saws, spikes and geysers.

Walls are not hazards

You can have less room while having no hazards, also movement space means nothing since "top" assassin players only use dodges for deflects
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>>171491014
heal is very worth it, plus it gives you time to get superarmor back


its true, any sort of knockdown. you can practice with a friend by just throwing an exhausted one, works then too. dodge has startup frames where you arent invincible. i guess you could roll out but ive never had that happen to me

>>171491087
by making reads. i light attack more grab attempts then teching them.

also you cant parry every single light, and pressuring an opponent is a good thing
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>>171492494
Gain is sorta more important but the returns diminish when you max it, so max attack out instead.

If you've got blue gear or something it's better to use parts that give more gain, but with purple gear having it as your second highest stat is enough. It takes so few hits to actually get revenge mode with it that adding more doesn't actually let you get it in fewer.

Think of it like this: you've got two swords, one that does 33 damage and another that does 25 damage, but gives some other alternative benefit as compensation. Against an opponent that has 100 HP, it takes four swings either way, so you may as well go with the 25er. The hitrounding effect becomes more and more obvious the fewer and fewer hits are required to kill, and in revenges case, you can get revenge through very very few interactions either way.
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>>171492849
>hits near 360 degree area
>FOLLOWS
>faster than light attacks
>hits almost as hard as a heavy attack

>"b-but it costs stamina that regens back in 3 seconds ;_;"
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>>171483748
No wonder the Vikings won the 1st round.

They have a fucking Psyops division.
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>>171492901

top players don't matter
they'll turn the game to shit no matter what the mechanics are like.
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What does the berserker eat that makes him so enraged?
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>>171493124
even then isnt that like 4 light attacks before she has to backdash 6 ft?
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>>171483785
>implying his feats are what make him bad
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>>171493372
Drugs. Iunno what, but drugs.
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>>171491629
THE MAKING OF IT IS A SECRET OF THEIR ORDER
>>
>want the moustache less helm for kensei
>after around 20+ crates total since hitting rep three, not a single one
F-FUCK YOU UBI I DONT WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON YOUR MICRO TRANSACTION SHIT
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>>171493372
Raider spiked his food with angry salt

Now hes permanently retarded and angry all the time
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>>171491829
He's rich, that's for sure. With that fancy 108 gear he's lugging around.

5000 steel for $4.99 USD, Best Deal!
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>>171493124
Fix for ZA:
>all ZA have wind-up as long as Raider's, given more reach if necessary to compensate
>all ZA not used as a char gimmick (Raider unblockable) damage reduced severely (lmao 15-20pts)
>soldier health reduced so ZA is still a ohko on them
Now zones are only good for killing mooks, like they should be.

Thots?
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>>171493776
>all ZA have wind-up as long as Raider's
Some need to be slowed down, but not that much. Raider's whole thing with his Zone is that it's unblockable with good tracking that punishes dodges.
The timing is set with a sound effect and only comes from one direction though, so it's a tradeoff. Not everyone needs to be the same as Raider in that aspect.
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>>171493776
I would just slow them down so that they aren't faster than the fastest light a character has available (or maybe the slowest?), and force people to be in the proper stance when they use their zone (other than raider, who has a passive geared specifically towards his zone) (you can also use it while unlocked ofc, but unlocking should create a cooldown time for zones that lasts as long as a guard change so that people don't unlock to skip the guard change)

I wouldn't mind your method but I don't think they need to have their damage lowered that much. Warden's does cost half your stamina and gets you guardbroken if it's bocked, so the punishment is on par with parrying a heavy. The stam thing doesn't mean much if you're sitting on enough stam, but prevents you from throwing it out while you have low stam since getting it blocked means you'd get grabbed and thrown on the floor.
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>>171493776
>like they should be.
wrong
zones should be useful when surrounded

I think you're not too far from the correct fix though
>wind-up zones, but make them all unblockable and unparryable
>essentially force people to back off atleast 1m backwards or get hit
>low damage (half bar normal, one bar revenge), high stamina cost, so the only time they would be valid is when you're surrounded and buying time in revengemode

They should make zone attacks in to what conqueror zone was originally meant to be

something to hit everything around you and keep people away
Only way to keep people away is by making ZA unavoidable by any means other than dodging.

Currently you can have 1-3 people surround you, and every one of them can parry your zone, odds are that your zone is worthless (unless it's fast like warden pk and orochi)
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>Fighting a roach
>Winning
>Law comes from nowhere and does his useless fucking charge
>Roach gets instant revenge, one-shots me
>Spend the rest of the match following the Law around, making sure that anyone he tries to fight gets Revenge, then leave him to die.

Can't you idiots just... play bot matches or something? I would literally rather play 3v5 than have a Lawbreaker on my team.
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>>171494658
you forgot the part where the lawbringer saved your ass and ledged them
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>>171494578
I don't think PK/Warlord/Warden/Zerker ZA can be parried by anyone other than the person targeted.
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>>171494947
I'm pretty sure if you're going to be hit by an attack, you can parry it.
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>>171493452
Shrooms probably
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>>171494658
law is actually good in 4v4 though

you must be retarded or something idk
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>>171494947
It it's coming at you, even if you're not targeting that opponent, you can parry it.
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Have they fixed the bugs yet
Did they buff LB
Did they do ANYTHING?
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>>171495205
There have been multiple bug fixes, and I think one balance patch, since release.
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>>171495008
I always failed to do it then, while it's very easy to parry a ZA spammer when you're the one targeted.

>>171495098
I meant parrying while not being the person targeted by the one doing the ZA. Like when you're standing on the side of a PK spamming ZA at someone else. Have you ever tried parrying that because I never managed to.
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It feels like PK, Warden, and Warlord weren't designed with thematic constraints in mind. Meaning the devs didn't care how realistic or appropriate the kit is to real life. Which is fine, plenty of fighters do that. But I think the problem is that none of the other characters were designed that. All raider can do is swing his axe, or tap with the hilt. Warden can somehow do a shoulder tackle but then grab. Valkyrie can trip people in heavy armor with a wooden spear with just her wrist. Lawbringer can just stand there looking impressive as he gently nudges people
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Is there a better feeling than having a telepathic bond with a random teammate?

Feels good as a prestige 1 nobushi and a p1 roach teammate to have a flawless match against a prestige 6 "meta" premade. I love these moments in FH!
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>>171496179
You sounds cute, come here
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>>171496324
What are you going to do to him anon, can I join.
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>>171496324
N-no way. I'm just happy and /fhg/ needs more happy feels!
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>>171496761
Who's that slut
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>play some dominion
>meet an enemy 108 conq
>comes to our point, does nothing just blocks
>wins the game
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hyper armor the most cancerous mechanic ever invented
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>>171496928
>Decide to play another char
>Dominion give the most xp so let's go
>108 Warlord, 108PK, Warden and Conq
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>>171496883
Ruby from RWBY. The series is quite mediocre but the waifus are cute.
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>>171496179
Had that once as my LB. Me+shug, when i flip he charges his max damage attack. Our enemies thought revenge gear can help them. Picrelated when they realised the truth the hard way
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>rep 10 roach
>wins round 1
>good fight
>win 3-1
>has been replaced by a bot
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>>171497102
>he didnt fight against 2PKs and 2 warlords
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>every orochi player ever
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>>171497842
>stick spinning
>reverse grip
>spin to win

holy shit that's so fucking true
>>
>>171497842

SA MOOO RAHIII
>>
>if Kensei used a normal sized katana he could actually be fast enough to not be shit
>>
>>171498213
He doesn't use a katana at all though, he uses a Nodachi.
>>
I just got this game today and started maining PK because she could shank people and do sick flips. I knew nothing going in and immediately became cancer. How can I redeem myself?
>>
>>171498213

Kensei is such a badass he wields a Calvary weapon on foot
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>>171498318
doesn't change the meaning of my statement

also, katana just means long sowrd
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>>171498418
Just change character nigga it ain't rocket science shit
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>>171498418
You can't. There is no cure for cancer, idiot.
>>
>>171498418
>>171498461
he's already dead jim. PK requires zero knowldege of the basic mechanics of the game, once he changes characters he's going to realize the game is nothing like what he knows now and he will switch back to his crutch character cus he's a stupid bitch,
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>>171498641
>I just got this game today
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>>171478346
>I can't disprove that reddit is fucking up our game so I'll just "ignore the retard"

Stay BTFO
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>>171499046
He's not wrong that peacekeeper's current meta means that all you really have to know ever is zoning and light attacks. PK is at a braindead place right now.
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>>171498418
In all honesty change character while you still can
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>>171499308
Yeah, but the dude doesn't know how to play the game anyway. The 'PK BREEDS YOU TO BEING SHIT' only matters if you're not shit anyway.
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>>171498418

Switch to Lawbringer.

Nothing less will do.
>>
>mfw I almost exclusively like bottom tier characters (Raider, Kensei, Lawbringer)
>like Warlord too but don't want to play him since he feels really overpowered
What do?
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>>171499692
Don't listen to this lawphile.
>>
Man...
I really enjoy playing Raider, but her unbelievably fucking awful mixup options are really cramping my style.
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>>171500126
>her
>>
>try playing some duel
>nothing but autistic warden and peacekeeper mains

nice game
>>
>>171499229
Not the same anon idiot, stay mad
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>>171499806
Play warlord.
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Post & Rate
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>>171464286
>mp40 juggernaut
i spent too long using that as a kid. good times
>>
>>171488807
>reach killing streak of 8 [PvP] without dying in skirmish match
end me
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>>171502458
Just pick PK
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>>171502458
>play Warlord
>it is now impossible to die
>a single GB is a guaranteed kill

ez frags
>>
>using revenge in a duel

Why? This shouldn't exist in duels
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>>171502716
>teammate hits your enemy on the way to a ledge, gets credit for the kill
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>lb against shugoki
>we end up feinting and staring at eachother until someone ganks him or me
pinnacle of pc gaming
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>>171502950
stop spamming
>>
>>171503202

I mostly just bought in on the off-chance that Ubi goes under and someone decent picks up the IP some day.
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>>171502018
Been bringing heroes up to rep 3, then moving onto another at random, keep getting Knights.

Going to play an Assassin next once I'm done with Lawbringer.
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>>171502950
>Not being able to kill the opponent before they build up revenge
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>>171502018
leveling raider right now
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>>171503042
The solution is to kill your teammates first.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/rqeocl.webm

>meet conq as a warden
>lose 1-3
>meet him again
>switch to nobushi
>win 3-0

>he get's surprised when i can tech his gbs after a dash
>he gets surprised when i can gb him mid shield bash
>that damage
having such short dash is a blessing vs conqs

tho he didn't play this too well
he could have prevented dmg after the kick with fullblock
and feinted some attacks with fullblock
>>
>>171503360
Decent developers only get good IPs when they create them them selves, good IPs only ever get picked up by shit developers/publishers.
>>
>>171503360
if Ubisoft hasn't already gone under, they never will. They can still print money with assassins creed games whenever they want.

Ubisoft Montreal might get shut down or downsized after this mess, though if there is any justice.
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>>171502018
Shitter stomper/10
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>>171503681
Rollin
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>>171503681
Rawlin
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>>171504579

Got me in one
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>>171487853
how do i fix that because i am also getting tped

i am tired of orochi shitters going "u r rahtard"
that's letter for letter what they say
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>>171472450
There's a depressed sweaty man in there
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>>171503681
r-roll
>>
>play as conq vs PK
>blocking all lights easy
>starts spamming guard break and stab
>guard breaks and they run for almost 15 minutes
>end match by kicking me off bridge
I almost broke my chair in anger
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>>171503681
For honor ded game
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>>171505725
>>171505725
>>171505725
YOUR THREAD IS BREAKING
>>171505725
>>171505725
>>171505725
>>
>>171503681
Rolling also fuck peacekeepers
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>>171503681
axeknight ples
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>>171452572
I picked and all defense and stamina reduction one, the damage difference is meaningless but the defense is amazing.
I don't know how much stamina reduction affects my attacks but I've been destroying things left and right like that compared to when I was all attack and no defense.
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Just got the game, what noscrub hero should I pick?
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