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5/7 storm edition

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Oldie:>>171372125
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Penis weenis
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Forte is 5/1 with Storm and she has flat chest
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>>171396535
This needs to be added to the OP or pastebin https://shadowverse-portal.com/
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>>171396535
How much do you tend to bully newcomers? I'd like a quick match to test my bloodcraft with one of you guys.
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>>171396669
I want to hold hands with Forte until she gets pregnant!
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Arisa is the cutest and you should play Forest
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>>171396669
>flat chest
tittymonsterfags everyone
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What's the last one going to be?

Do you think it's better to play arena now or later for standard packs?
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>>171396687
http://sv.bagoum.com for the full card art
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By my personal observation the T0 decks have always been the ones with the most consistent tutors, Albert Sword, Roach OTK etc..

Which is why I hereby declare blood to be the preemptive winner of the next expansion's cancer award.

Congratulations!
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REMINDER THAT OUROBOROS WILL SAVE DRAGON
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>>171396783
Sure, 77279
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>>171396796
This, except for the "play forest" part
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>>171396821
the armor is padded
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>>171396832
There has ever only been one Tier 0 deck, and it was PtP Forest at its prime.
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Any idea what kind of dragon deck can be build around Ouroboros?
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>wake up
>only 600 points away from Masters
>go on a five game losing streak right away
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what counters forest decks like white wolf?
they seem to have everything: board clears, wards, heals, decent early game, late game combo
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>>171396832
>he doesn't know how broken OTK wildfang is with the new egg and rehab to cuck aggro.

8pp lethal everytime.
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I WANT A COLLAB BUT DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE
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>>171396971
Ramp. What else would there be? Something like 3 Saha, 3 Lucifer, 2 Ouro and 2-3 Bahamut. Maybe you can try to fit Israfil by dropping a Lucifer or so
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>>171397015
I had a 30 game lose streak once.
It was terrible and had to stop playing for a days because I could only lose no matter how good my hand was or how weak my opponent was.
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>>171397167
Monster Hunter
Imagine, all the possible Dragon legos
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>>171396971
Unironically discard PTP dragon with carrots.

30 shadow ez.


>>171397167
IDOLM@STER leader of course
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>>171396928
That bahamut chest size graph said she was an E cup or something.
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>>171396832
> T0 decks have always been the ones with the most consistent tutors
except face dragon
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>>171396971
There is only kind of somewhat viable dragon deck, were you planning on making aggro dragon for it or something?
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I need a concede, please.

13924
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>>171396832
false
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>>171397167

Well, we already have Candelabras and skeletal duelists in the game.

I don't see why we can't do an Atlus one.
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>>171397243
different forte
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>>171396783
At the end flash a message, if you want to keep playing, I can go for a few games.
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>>171396971
yes.
dingdong dragon aka dragon dildo
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>>171397243
That's GBF, not RoB. Everyone is a cow in GBF.
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>>171397489
How can it be a different Forte?
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I came.
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>>171397461
Thanks, friend.
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>>171396785

I'm afraid that;s not how it works anon...
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>>171396669
Forte's a QT but it's a shame she's stuck in such a shit class.
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This braindead meta is seriously terrible.
We need more decks like roach that require mental energy to play.
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>>171397621
GBF devs are lazy and decided to make her a member of an existing race in granblue instead of making something new.
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>>171397704
Ooooh the ecstasy!
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>>171396971
eggs sybil and carrots
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>>171397805
Why is she so sweaty?
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>>171397486
They should make an SMT crossover expansion and make a fusion mechanic where you use your evolve point to fuse your cards
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>>171397792
>kindergarten-tier math
>actual mental energy

I see what you're getting at but be reasonable anon.
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>>171397792

I hope you're looking forward to 20 turn games come the expansion
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>>171397776
If Forte is supposed to be Shorte then why does every artwork depict her with really long legs and thick thighs?
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>>171397936
Roach was the thinking man's deck.
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>>171398070
It still is
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>>171397915

>Opens up the pathway to leader and monster fusion.

Rowen combining with Satan to become Apocalypse Devil Dragon when?
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>>171397704
stop bullying otomeme, she's suffered enough already
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I want the expansion now, Anons.
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>>171398192
Roachbolt maybe.
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>>171398282
Same. I need something fresh.
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>>171398341
I have 76% winrate in Masters with pure roach
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>>171398282
you can have my expanded dingdong anon :^)
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>>171398362
Play meme decks
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>>171396848
Thank you for the matches i think i need to change some cards ;_;
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Unless you can interrupt the enemy with trap cards or counterspells, like yu-gi-oh or magic there is no skill involved except deck building.
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>>171398371
how
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>>171398428
I have to save vials to the expansion.
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>>171398448
Yes you do, a good blood deck is relatively cheap, but I don't think the one you were using was any good.
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Need concede please

99531
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>>171398453
I wonder who's behind this post.
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What was the controversy going on with Ouroboros, I heard it got a faulty translation or something along those lines. What does it actually do?

>>171396535
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>>171396971
A win con for JO dragon.
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>>171398453
Pretty much. Unga mirrors get decided by turn order 69% of the time and 31% by hand bricks. There is no room for skill.
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>>171398552
Footfags pls go
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>>171398453
I agree, traps are good in idea and make the game more interactive, but often they are retarded in execution such as hearthstone's secrets.
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Why do people misuse the term "tier 0" so badly? There's only ever been 1 case of tier 0 in this game, and it was pre Harvest/Home nerf PtP Elf (70% winrate). Nothing else even comes close. If you want to see what a real tier 0 format looks like, head over to YGO. Hell, Zoodiacs aren't even the worst case of tier 0. But, tier 0 in YGO/MTG isn't really that bad for the game, because techs and side decking actually exists in those games, rather than who draws into the broken shit first automatically winning.
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>>171398552
Just google porn if you wanna jack off, no need to wait for someone to post your niche fetish here.
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>>171398523
Whenever I see 3 DoD and 3 Lancers I'm positive it's brick mania.
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>>171398594
It lets you draw two cards.
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>>171398453
yeah we need shit like pic related
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>Rise the dead to get another kiwi
>Rise the dead for an extra morde
>Rise the dead for another odin
>Rise the dead for an extra Olivia
>Rise the Dead for another Bahmut

how come nobody runs this shit? its great
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>>171398594
The original leak/reveal had its last words effect locked behind evo, when it's actually baseline. Check the docs for the correct text
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>>171398523
1x goblin
1x alukard

nice memes
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>>171398594
8 PP 8/4

Fanfare: 3 damage to target enemy
Last Words: heal 3, put a copy of Ouroboros in your hand

The first version had the last word locked behind evoing it.
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>>171398697
I started using this 3 days ago and I've never bricked once with lancers or DoD
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>>171398523
>>171398697
never had any issues with this deck but then again just a A1 shitter
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>>171398552
Kill yourself Mr. Degenerate.
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>>171398458
by being hyper intellligent of course
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>>171398552
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>>171398726
>Counterspell but better
Yeah, I'm never touching Eternal. If I wanted to play Magic I'd go to a cardstore and play with the people there.
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>>171398541
Thanks Vampy-chan!
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>>171398453
knowing what to play is a skill as well, but otherwise I agree with you
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>>171396669
What did they mean by this?
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>>171398880
>tfw to smart 2 roach
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>>171398453

>there is no skill involved

false, there is a degree of choice which impacts your win rate in the long run.
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>>171398594
>he missed the Ouroboros shitfest
I feel sorry for you.
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>>171398726
Are you implying it's not balanced? Burn is broken as fuck in Eternal. Every fucking unga shit deck has the option of SCALABLE burn, so they can never be fucking ran over. Their early game is too strong, because they're an unga deck, and they have a late game that rival yours, because their burn spells deal as much damage to you as their mana, so a single top deck will gave you eating 10+ damage from hand at any time in the late game.
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>>171398848
A fellow degnerate?
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>>171398453
This is true.
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>>171396971
People haven't noticed it yet, but I think face dragon might benefit the most from it. If you think about it, Ouro's true value is realized if you empty your hand, so you always have something to play (him). Face dragon does this. They don't always get to turn 8, but they sometimes do, and demonic strike clearly has utility for a face deck.
I'm also starting to wonder if there might be potential for a mid-range deck with him and the low drops we got.
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>>171398964
can confirm, i lost many t2 5-0 opportunities because i'm an idiot
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>>171398729
>2pp do nothing
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>>171398945
>friendship
that look on Cerberus indicates that she wants more that that doujins when?
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>>171399038
Why is Mary balding?
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>>171398729

It's a brick early game.
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What decks have a good matchup vs Seraph Haven? I've so far only been successful against it with Ramp Dragon.
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>>171398201
Too good for Rowen.
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>>171398945
>Cerb will never cuck your wife with you
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>>171399196
Deathly Tyrant Shadow
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>>171399124
She is not! Her parting game is just on another level.
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>>171398552
>>171398848
>>171399038

We're doing feet now?

Okay I guess.
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>>171399002
dude I just started this morning, I only played against the IA lmao
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>>171399080
You've not played enough Face Dragon if you think this card is good there. At turn 8 you are dropping Fortes and Seabrands, usually to finish them, that deal much more damage than a Demonic Strike.
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>>171396785
Have fun raising my kid.
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>>171398453
>No interaction on opponent's turn of any kind
>No side deck
Digital CCGfags are always in denial that their games are 90% decided by luck. Turn order and mulligan decides almost every single fucking game. Even deck building is a joke in digital CCGs due to their shallow card pool, and how rampant net decking is in them. Netdecking in tradtional CCGs exists, no one denies that, but even the most mindless of drones netdecks, instead of hordes of people playing card for card an exact copy of the same deck (Lyrial/Angel of Word """"midrange""""" Sword comes to mind).
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>>171399324
Is there any feet in TotG yet? I can't remember any.
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>>171399196
just odin bro

you wont run into seraph often in this meta anyways
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>>171399038
mary is a dragon or dragonewt isn't she?
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>>171399224
>cuck your wife with you
what did he mean by this?
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>>171397015
>ranking during the weekend
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>>171399437
Trust me, my luck has been complete garbage. I've somehow run into the only people playing Seraph on ladder whenever I decide to not play control.
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>>171399370
I have played it. That's why I said sometimes the game doesn't last that long and why I said "maybe". But sometimes you run out of juice. I am sympathetic to the argument that Ouro would just dilute your deck with a card that doesn't add to the low mana go face game plan, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as he won't have any place there.
Admittedly he probably does have more synergy with some kind of mild ramp mid-range deck. I dunno if that will ever happen, though.
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>>171399441
no
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How would you react
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>>171399479

He didn't word it well.

Basically he wants to have an affair behind his waifu's back with Cerberus.
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turn Daria into a 10pp card that can't be spellboosted

there, i just fixed everythign that is wrong with rune
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>>171399582
>realize I'm playing runecraft
>question my value as a human being
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>>171399434

>Prepare for the feet.

Urias knew
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>>171398904
I'd be willing to bet "spell" in Eternal excludes creatures. It's basically this card.
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>>171399627
>Turn legit cards into deadweight

gaem fix'd dudes
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>>171399196
ER
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>>171398453
But what if vials weren't a thing and you had to make decks based on your awful luck? Wouldn't you start needing skill then?
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>>171399627
or just wait two weeks until she's creep'd out of the game
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>>171399627

>Remove cards with Daria's art in them.

There, now Runecraft isn't a craft exclusive for subhuman trash.
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>>171398945
>Caucasian ethnicity
Why don't animes look more asian?
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Hey anons, if anyone wants to do private take two matches with me to help me do the quests for playing with so many people, I'll keep the game up . Did one with an anon last night and it was fun.
48803
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>>171399551
If you run out of juice an Ouro would not help you, the return effect isn't that useful as it sounds, especially because the opponent will just kill you between the returns.
Personally I run Imperial Dragoon as a last resort for similar purposes in face dragon. And Dragoon can do more damage than Ouro and it also wipes the opponents board, thus giving me more time to pull a storm card, so I see little reason to switch next expansion.
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>>171399427
>mfw i'm from ygo
no, you're just bad and most likely salty on top. you know nothing about traditional "CCGs" (they're called TCGs you fucking retard)
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>>171399729
Eternal doesn't try hiding the fact it's an MTG light, with a heavy dose of shitstone. It's literally a dumbed down MTG, if MTG balanced exactly like Blizz (made sure aggro dominates at all times).
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>>171399627
>hurr
>durr
fixd ur game shadowbabs
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Whats the matter unga Luna?
Cant handle the outdated meme fly?
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>already get triggered by fairy beast
I'm gonna have an aneurysm with the new forest legendary.
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>>171399740
>7pp card that can have its cost reduced, gives F I V E cards AND spellboosts all of them TWICE
>non-evolved effect
Nah, go fuck yourself. Daria deserves to not even be in the game.
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>>171399790
Doubtful. She'll be taking a solid third place to Forest and Sword forming a trio of pure cancer.
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The dragoncraft reaction to the ouro reveal yesterday were the best dragoncraft tears i ever witnessed.
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>>171399589
Why would you choose another Shadowaifu over Cerberus? They are on an inferior level
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It's funny.

When I was in D rank, I always encounter swordcrafts.
Now I am in C rank, 50% of my match are against Rune.

Sad because rune totally counter haven. (have only one themis).
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>>171399589
>behind his waifus back

No I want her to watch
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>>171399790
Daria is OP I doubt she can be creeped. The new expansion will make her better with the spellboost tutor card and Chimera
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>Turns 2-3: Play wards
>Turns 4-9: Clear board
>Turn 10: Lose

I want to get off Erika's wild ride.
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>>171399998
>wahhhhhhh I don't like this card please remove it
lol
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11896

need a concede over here
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>>171399627
>>171399998
Daria now draws only as much cards as the amount discarded.

THERE, I fixed Daria in 2 seconds.
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>>171399589
>>171400154

What kind of autistic mental gymnastics are these?
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>>171399582
>superman with no spellboost
300%
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>>171400049

>not wanting a bellringer waifu to ding your dong

Do you really think that with such a large pool of waifus to choose from that Cerberus can simply be unchalleged?
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>>171400026
It was clearly the highlight of this pre-ToG period. One last lego left, there's hope for a good shitstorm.
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>>171400207
>T8 get ward up.
>lol Fangblade.
Fuck sword.
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>>171400230
Daria is removed from the game
I fixed Daria
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>>171400357
More widespread healing will see mid-range sword decline in effectiveness, I think.
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>>171399541
When's the best time to rank?
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T1 we're coming for ya
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>>171400310
Forgetting the objectively cutest card
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>>171400453
Removing something isnt fixing it, thats a fallacy.
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>>171400218
I still need help with this
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>>171400310
Maybe in terms of cuteness but in the others aspects she and Rose queen are pretty much Tier 0
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Did sword get anything good from the expansion or am I good to continue the Albert spam?

I looked at that forest card that's basically mini albert with two wards. I guess forestcucks got what they wanted.
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IT'S A BITCH FOR YOU

WOOF
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Why do people complain about long games with control vs control? Do they hate playing the game that much?
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>>171399541
>>171400532
It is easier on the weekends actually, my opponents are far more idiotic and way more meme decks than during weekdays.

T. rank climber
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>>171400610
>mini albert
They're both better than Albert is individually
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>>171400560

Removing elves is the only way to fix elves.

So I don't know what you're on about.
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>>171400560
Well the entire concept of drawing 5 cards which cost literally NOTHING is pretty broken to begin with
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>>171398069
She's older in SV than she's in GBF afaik.
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>>171400210
desu Nep has the potential for less value than Daria but I still stomp straight Daria shitters with it.

Dshits can go die in a hole though.
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>>171400697
>5 cards which cost literally NOTHING is pretty broken to begin with
To be fair, they can be non-spellboost cards.
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>>171400624
Dumb games breed dumb people.
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>>171400535
>no Saha best friend aka Lucifer
>Ouroboros
>no hip hip hooray
dropped
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>>171400538
>>171400575

Something that's cute AND sexy.

Checkmate atheists
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>>171398904
it's nowhere near as good as counterspell dummy

it's muddle the mixture
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>>171400667
8 damage storm 10pp is what I mean. Doesn't even need an evolve too.

This is for the class that can shit out 17 damage on turn 7. Seriously Forestcraft does not need more cards with storm.
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>>171400697
Its broken because it draws 5 cards, instead of the amount of cards you discarded.
If the runecraft player only had 1 card in her hand when she played Daria, then she should only receive 1 card.

Why don't people realize this is the only reason Daria is broken? If this limitation was added then Daria players would be forced to think and manage their resources.
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>>171399627
t. hagcuck
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quick fight for a quest? no conceding
12913
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>>171400857
Because Daria players don't want her to be balanced? I thought that was clear. The only people who defend her are people who use her.
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What are /svg/'s thoughts on the new haven cards thus far?
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>>171400857

>thinking and managing resources
>Daria players
>thinking and managing their resources, ever
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>>171400026
Thank god Ouro is good now
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Do you guys ever think it will be possible to just run Competitive Strength and big bodies and completely avoid thinking about ward? I thought of that last night when in bed, so it's probably a bad idea, and even when I thought of it I see some serious problems with it (the tempo loss of actually playing competitive), but it's a fun idea.
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>>171401019
mediocre is more suitable.
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>>171400453
>women who smoke
Disgusting
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>>171401131

LEWD
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>>171400857
Daria isn't broken
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>>171401131
>3 days of no concede dailies
Torture
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>>171400857
>>171401000
You are retarded. If daria only drew as much as she banished the deck would be tier 4.
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>>171400624
But I like long, tense control matchups
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>>171401131

Well, we go for the pure sister(male) then.
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>>171399875
GG anon, thanks! The room is still up for anybody who wants to play. 48803
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>>171399427
Lyrial and homo angel are good in pretty much every aggro style deck tho.
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>>171400624
the short answer is yes
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>>171401125
big bodies?
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>>171400819
Lucifer is old and busted.

Israfil is Saha's new girlfriend!
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>forest gets power creeped albert, power creeped genesis dragon, and a better version of reno jackson from hearthstone
cygames couldn't stand forest not being the most overpowered class for an entire month. Jesus
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>>171401263
Yes, that's the point. The deck is a stupid idea that would never fly in any other craft propped up by an incredibly overpowered card. That doesn't make the card "fine" just because the deck would die without it.
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Is Beast Dominator viable with Bloody Moon?
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>>171401150
Faggot
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>>171399441
You remember how one of the Devil's forms is a dragon and how Dracula relates to the Devil? Yeah, Mary's got part of that motif even if she's not actually a dragon.
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>>171401263
>you get punished for mindlessly throwing shit on board and hitting face with spells

You dont say
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>>171401327
>That doesn't make the card "fine" just because the deck would die without it.
it does, actually
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>>171401312
Like... not that I am suggesting it, but stuff like Island Whale. Hopefully you'd pick shit that actually has good card text and doesn't suck, but that's the idea. Competitive Strength could mean a deck without wards period.
inb4 everyone makes fun of me for using island whale to make a point
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>>171400624
its because of the ladder format. long games are fun in tournaments. people wanna grind to masters fast as possible,
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>>171401297
I'll do it since I also need to play a bunch of people in privates
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>>171401317
I want to rape Saha while Israfil watches!
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>>171399875
>>171401297
Keep in mind that it has to be 20 different people and not 20 wins
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>>171401150
>tfw my ex started smoking because of me
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>>171401431
Okay, so it would be fine to give dragon a 20/20 with storm just to make a single deck centered around that card viable? That card would not have balance problems if the rest of the deck was poo poo?
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Playtest results

Support Cannon Sword (http://game-ai.jp/26400/)
Unica,3
Veteran Lancer,3
Maid Leader,3
Novice Trooper,3
White Paladin, 3
Jeno,2
Amelia,2
Albert,3
Gawain,3
Sage Commander,2
Otohime,3
Roland, 3
Alexander,2
Whole-Souled Swing,2
Support Cannon,3

VS

Wolf Bolt Forest (http://game-ai.jp/26301/)
May,3
Fairy Whisperer,2
Roach,3
Ancient Elf,3
Vist,3
Tia,1
Pegasus,2
Aerin, 3
Elf Queen,2
White wolf,2
Nature's Guidance,3
Fairy Circle,3
Sylvan Justice,3
Glimmering Wings,2
Will of the Forest,3
Silver Bolt,2

Match 1 (Sword goes 1st): Sword win on turn 10. Sword placed massive pressure on Forest throughout the game. Forest banked on a strong Elf Queen heal to even the game, but the above deck runs so few shadow generators Elf Queen could only heal about 10 HP. Evolved Albert sealed the game. Roland also proved to be troublesome since it rendered Silver Bolt useless.
Match 2 (Forest goes 1st): Sword win on turn 9. Once support cannon was played, Gawain -> Roland -> Sage Commander + Novice Trooper decimated any of Forest's attempts to regain board control.

Thoughts:
If the rest of Forest's unrevealed cards are not amazing, Roland will COMPELTELY kill Wolfbolt and OTK Roach decks and hurts Control Forest. These decks will need to run some form of amulet removal. PtP decks come out looking alright against Roland, but there's still the problem of Bahamut/Odin from Control Sword.
Otohime might not be worth running with Support Cannon. Your board space gets crowded with Support Cannon and Durandal the Incorruptible.
Don't know how I feel about Gawain, but he can set up strong plays like White Paladin + White Paladin + Sage Commander.
Building around Support Cannon seems at least semi-viable. You don't depend too much on Support Cannon since you have Otohime+Sage Commander and Evolved Albert as your other win conditions. Useless against aggro.
For Elf Queen to work, you need lots of shadow generators. Otherwise, she's just a Fairy Beast who comes out a turn later.
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>lose to pixie mischief RNG

remove arisa from the game please
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>>171401418

>dying a slow death from 2ndhand smoke
>bad breath
>more susceptible to poor health
>constantly leeches money for smokes

yea, that sounds really sexy my man
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>>171401317
Lucifer is still good, I think. His heal does seem a bit meh considering Sibylla, but as a Saha pull he trades well, and if you play him out onto the board straight and they don't have removal, his evolve on the next turn pretty much wins the game. If anything, I think you can make the point he's a somewhat stronger card than Israfil.
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Holy fuck I felt bad for this Rowen. That play must have been painful to make.
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>>171401632
that deck would probably be overpowered. Tempo Rune isn't overpowered right now.
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Gee, people still cry over daria, it's the easiest deck as an opponent. No ridiculous heals or wards, simple tactic, you can always tell if they have a daroa in starting hand or from their plays. Literally git gud.
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>>171401418
There's a SINGLE exception and she's not one of the degenerates you posted.
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>>171401632
>Okay, so it would be fine to give dragon a 20/20 with storm just to make a single deck centered around that card viable?
Yes you retard. You would have to balance it so that you can't just stick it in any other deck and have it work the same. or do you think Tyrant is too strong?

13 MANA STORM FOR 6PP WTF??
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>>171401263
I couldn't care less about that, you don't deserve to be tier 1 on a fundamentally broken mechanic.
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>people are complaining about Daria
>when Albert exists and is much more obnoxious
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>>171401654
As soon as they announced support cannon, I was one of the people saying it would absolutely be a top tier card and not just a meme. Of course your sims aren't the real game, but I believe support cannon will be a real thing.
Uhh... does this mean dragonrider devil is going to be played?
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>>171401783
Are we shitting on dragon now?
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good day, shadowbros
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>>171401826
Yeah, Albert is so much better to fight against. That deck truly deserves to be tier 1 for its deep merits.
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>>171401654
>Ottohime is now semi-viable again
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>>171401273
Veight a cute.
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>>171401248
Speaking of concede dailies

84413
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Concede pls
19841
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>>171401654

>Roland also proved to be troublesome since it rendered Silver Bolt useless

Is Roland /ourgirl/?
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>>171401654
>For Elf Queen to work, you need lots of shadow generators. Otherwise, she's just a Fairy Beast who comes out a turn later.
too bad she fucks up your PtP. Why'd they have to give it so much anti synergy with the forest deck that generates shadows?
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>>171401891
>play ward
Wooow so obnoxious
>t4 3/4 flood
Completely fun and fun to play against
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>>171401891
Daria is still high tier. The ladder right now is essentially mid sword, c sword, Daria, D Shift, and bats. Daria actually runs a lot of decks over, she just dropped out of the spotlight as far as the community goes.
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>>171401654
I dont see why you'd go Faerie Queen over Faerie Beast in White Wolf. Faerie Queen seems like a traditional control card where your wincon would be Tarzan.
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>>171401817
>playing deathly tyrant with 20 shadows on turn 4/5
Good luck
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Ramp Dragon is tanoshii.
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>>171399978
Bug strong.
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>>171401989
Thanks fellow Vania-chan!
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>>171397861
She is a dork
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>>171401969
Actually yes, because Albert is consistent, unlike Daria, which is why I have 90% win rate against swordcraft. Its very obvious what they are gonna do and when is Albert going to come out.
Albert is only one man by himself so he is barely an issue, unlike Daria who interacts with other cards, by discarding them, drawing them and making them free to use.

I'm not saying Albert is okay design wise, but if I had to choose which one of them is the bigger problem I would say Daria without a hesitation, and if you asked which one I would rather fight I would answer Albert withotu hesitation.
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>>171401654
How did they playtest this ? Did they make paper proxies IRL and test with them, or what ?
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>forestnigger trying to roach me

Just concede already, I already dropped 7 wards.

/WhoWardDragonHere/
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>>171401297
GG 2nd anon. Room is still up. 48803
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Whatever happened to leader pack 2? I thought it was coming out in March
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Anyone has any blood control decks? I don't even know where to start desu.
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>>171399771
That's how I've played since release and I pity anyone that didn't play the game that way, especially those who fell for the "dust your entire starting collection and all your pulls to build a T1 deck" meme.
>tfw used to have a budget all bronze/silver dirtcraft deck for dailies, slapped together from pulls
>used cycle cards as filler because I didn't actually own enough essence to build a full dirt deck, but spellboost was unattainable and just playing lots of golems was enough to beat aggro
>now playing decks like pic related, still purely from pulls

Although it is true that it's probably a lot harder to win on budget shitter decks now than it used to be.

Netdecking is unga by default, even in MTG there is flowchart for optimal gameplay and a handful of decisions to actually make when both players are aware of the other's decks.

>>171399427
There's nothing stopping someone from implementing a sideboard rule in tournaments, it's just not practical for casual matchmade gameplay.
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>>171401654
>For Elf Queen to work, you need lots of shadow generators. Otherwise, she's just a Fairy Beast who comes out a turn later.
Exactly what I expected. I wonder if it would be worth it to run Altered Fate in Control Forest just for the shadow generation and draw. Even though you technically are drawing less than you had in hand before activating Altered Fate, since you are discarding a lot of Fairy tokens, it might not be that bad.

Also, I'd be interested in seeing how neutral Ramp with Ouroboros would perform against regular CSword (not the cannon build), if you don't mind.
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>>171402108
I think another Faerie Queen problem is the max health in Shadowverse just being too low to make use of all that heal. To really make full use of it you have to get yourself down to health totals you never want to allow. So in most situations where you're playing safe Beast heals just as much. One bonus for Queen though is that you can heal without needing a big hand. Reflecting on it, that's probably her intended role: to allow healing in a control forest deck that SPENDS its cards rather than refilling with lots of junk cards to always have your hand at max size.
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>>171401960
I'm always up for posting this shitty webm.
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>>171402239
>Tfw you get to play Forte and Urd her next turn
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>>171401654
>2 matches
>playtesting

>>171402291
>not being able to simulate hundreds of perfectly accurate games simultaneously in your mind
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>>171400624
The game's reward structure is set up to favour fast wins. Nobody wants 20 minute matches when you're just trying to get dailies over with.
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>>171402634
>tfw Arriet will make Forte/Urd niche irrelevant
Feels kind of bad to be honest
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>>171401273
>>171401985
Can we post more Veight?

It's for a friend..
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>>171401783
What do you mean? He doesn't have lucifer or salamander breath, so its the right play obviously.
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>>171402239
>tfw no forte doujins
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>>171402721
I stopped being a dailycuck afetr a couple months. Now I just get my daily bonus and play whatever I want how much I want.
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>>171402765

I got nothing for blue boards

Sorry friend.
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>>171402821
>not getting 30 packs a month from easy dailies
I mean I respect your playstyle quite a bit, but do you just not need future cards or what?
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>>171402239
GBF's girls must be pretty low quality if Forte's one of the most popular. It also doesn't have nearly enough lolis.
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>>171402807
soon
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pew pew pew
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>>171402807
https://exhentai.org/tag/character%3Aforte
?
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>>171402807
There are Forte doujins though? What are you talking about?
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>>171403004
I love that attack sound
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>>171403016
>>171403047
You fell for his devious tricks.
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>>171402789
Yeah I know it was probably his best play (he salamander'd the turn prior). But Saha'ing out a Bahamut to ram it into a 1/1 probably doesn't feel very satisfying. I imagine it's similar to the feeling you get when you have to chump evo into an X/1 to stay alive.
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>>171403016
>>171403047
>GBF
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>>171402291
I wrote a Python script that simulates the hand and deck of both players. There's a lot I need to do manually; when I play Fairy Whisperer, I have to enter in commands that add 2 Fairies to my hand. The board I simulate with paper and pencil because gameplay interactions are too complicated to quickly code.

>>171402493
I'll try it.

>>171402656
One match can take 30 minutes to simulate. It's good enough to get a general feel for things.
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>>171402807
>>
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the lore of this game and also how it ties in with SnB, GBF, etc.?
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>>171403210
can't you just play tutorial?
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>>171403210
dragons duh
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>>171403363
Dragons?
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>>171403210
GBF didn't work for me but I think it's unrelated and they just have cards from those games.
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>>171403016
>>171403047
No him but all the Forte doujins are GBF Forte instead of SnB/SV Forte. GBF Forte is a midget
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>>171403427
bahamut mostly
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>>171402942
You get 1500 rupees, 8 card packs and 4 arena tickets in 2 months just by logging in every day and that's not counting all the free packs from promotions. I have 2.5k rupees and 15k vials saved up for next expansion and I havenì't even played for weeks these past couple months.
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>>171403325
I don't mean the story in SV, I played all of it. I mean the general lore. I don't know anything about Shingeki no Bahamut or GBF, that's why I'm asking.
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>>171403186
What did he mean by this?
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>tfw actually won with Azazel

I won't meme like that again
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>>171403210
It doesnt. Think of it as an different timeline
The story is pretty much:
>play a childrens card game
>get sent to the shadow realm
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There are still 3 sword silvers to be revealed.
What happens if at least one of them is khawy tier?
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>>171402361
>He rams a white wolf into your 6/4 and drops 2 silver bolts next turn
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>>171403494
>not liking her sister
come on anon
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>>171403520
If that's enough for you that's cool, then. It's just that if you did the dailies every day you'd probably 8000+ rupees or something. And 15 + 8 packs really isn't much for a new set.
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>>171403210
There is no relation to GBF
Many of the cards that you play are from SnB. In GBF, there are re-imagined version of SnB characters, with the same name and similar appearance, but it isn't actually the same character. So there's no actual relationship with GBF, SV just has SnB characters and some of those characters also appear in GBF, but SV uses the SnB version of those characters. And there are no GBF-only characters in SV.
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>>171403210
>Elf
MUH LOSARIA

>Sword
MUH PRINCESS

>Rune
MUH KYLE

>Dragon
MUH FAMILY

>Shadow
MUH PARENTS

>Blood
MUH LAST OF MY KIND

>Haven
MUH EVIL ME

>Everybody
MUH MORNING STAR
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>>171401783
>>171401960
>>171402571
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>>171403526
Well you can watch the anime, I really liked it but most of the people here will tell you that it's mediocre. But there's nothing really that link the two stories as far as I remember except the characters.
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>>171401413
Eh, kinda
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>>171403775
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>>171403775
>Dragon
MUH EGGS
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>>171403784
>playing bahamut with khawy on board
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>>171403927
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>go first, win mirror
>go second, lose
Nice game shadowbabs.
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>>171403553
I've lost to Azazel quite a few times.

I never expect him, and it can be hard to come back from that, especially if you overextend before he's dropped.
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>>171403210
Well, technically speaking, RoB, GBF and SV have nothing in common, except for Bahamut that destroys all creation when it wakes up and a new world begins.

So, the three games might be on the same planet, but in different eras that are separated by bahamut waking up.
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>>171404047
is that a girl
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>>171404047
It's pretty soulcrushing. I stopped a few rating short of masters because the game feels so deterministic I have no motivation to play.
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>>171403663
There's no point in having a million rupees and vials if I have to hate the game and waste time playing decks I don't want to play and taking it as a job. I have the decks I want for now and the game is very generous. That was the count for ONLY logging in and not doing anything else and also not counting promotions etc. If you play a bit even if you don't do all dailies, you're bound to complete a few "win x matches", "evolve x followers" and get the score rewards and i still have to beat the single player content they added in recently for a ton of rupees + the free packs for the expansion drop etc.

Like, yeah if you want to craft every single deck including shit like saha dragon and stuff you need more, but I'm happy enough without every single deck in the game.
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>decks with hard wincons win their mirror matches if they place their wincon down first
huh, who would've thought
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>>171404119
>>171404120
Do not reply to him, newfriend.
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>>171403210
>>171404113
There is nothing that makes me think Bahamut has any relation to the story of the leaders whatsoever though. We play with cards that are from the RoB universe, but the game's story mode is a completely separated thing.
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>>171404119
That's king arthur, aka the guy who could have been the sword hero instea dof Mr. Mouthbreather right here.

>>171404120
I just can't find a deck that isn't like that. It's the same with Dshift, Daria, """"""midrange"""""" sword, seraph, ungabats, etc. Going first is a tremendous advantage in mirrors.
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>>171404353
Stop shitposting, autist.
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Should I craft a second tsubaki or a second Odin?
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>>171404005
>>171403927
Can someone explain the eggs meme to me? I know it was a thing before the new egg card.
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What deck should I play if I want to climb and at the same time get completely wasted tonight?
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>>171404462
Some pasta about a creeper who finds a passed out girl and forces her to eat boiled eggs when she wakes up.
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>>171404462
it wasnt
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>>171404514
Aggro Blood
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>>171404514
Aggro sword or aggro blood.
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>start playing rankeds
>3 hours later only 100 pints up
wow nice game shadowbabs
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>>171403210
As for lore, there are mortal humans and fantasy races like dragons, there're realms of gods and demons that fight for human realm.
Humans are inferior to dragons, gods and demons, but magic and image related's invention of alchemy allows them to kinda compete.

>>171404312
CyGames dripfeeding the story. These new chapters we got are probably intros to what was supposed to be DE story.
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>>171404462
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>>171404450
Don't craft Tsubaki just yet because new tier 1 sword decks are on the way. Do whatever you want with Odin though, it's a great investment.
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>>171404514
""""""""""""""midrange"""""""""""""""""""""

sword
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>forest nigger keeps on bouncing his fairy best
nigger
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You know, Swordgirls was a fun F2P card game.

They balanced ranked mode fairly easy, by saying a deck can only have 251 points or less.
Every card was worth a set amount of points and if you threw in only super legendarie rares you had those 251 points filled out faster than you could see.
Nono, the limit actually made deckbuilding difficult as you had to build a competetive deck within a certain range of laws, not just spamming 3 Darias into a random rune deck and calling it a day
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>>171404723
He just wants to be the fairy best, like no one ever was.
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>>171399875
Still need help completing the quest! Thanks to the first two anons! New room is 51213
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Any of you ever entered one of these tournaments? I'm thinking of giving it a go.
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>>171404771
It was fun, but rng combat drove me up the wall sometimes
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>>171404771
Yeah, let's kill Dragon even harder.
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>>171404827
he did it about 4 or 5 fucking times jesus christ ancient elfs and nature guidance
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>>171404771
>Sword girls

Jesus it's been a long time since I've heard that name.

Enough RNG to make a HS player cringe.

Good artwork though.
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>>171404906
Is that a boy or a girl?
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>>171404771
>implying the most oppressive decks are the one with the most rainbow cards
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>>171404892
Multiple ones, I made some change through it and use the money I win on the game itself.
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>>171404681
>>171404572
Thanks, family
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>hate playing shadow
>have literally zero dragon lego's
>game decides to give me win4 dragon/shadow every fucking day
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Guess the SV card
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>>171405090
Ooooooh!
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>>171405005
What kinds of decks did you use? As in how netdecked/how expensive/etc.
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I did it! Exact lethal with holy mage!
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What about this one
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Guys let's just admit it.

Dragon got good legendaries.

RampnDragonnwill will be very scary.

Sibyl, Ouro, Egg, Sahara, Israfil, Lucifer, Aina, Zell, Hippocampus.

That's scary as shit.
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>>171405090
Damn daniel back at it again with the clay golems
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Tavern Brawl's godawful bungling has finally tipped me over the edge. I'm downloading Shadowverse now. Haven't looked into anything, what guidelines should I follow? Is there anything specifically I should look to craft/obtain out of the gate? pls send help
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>>171405328
Congratulations anon you won vs discard dragon
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>Masters trials have begun
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>>171405503
Ganbare anon!
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>>171405484
find a rerolling guide and a tier list and try to make a deck that looks fun
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>>171405484
Aren't you guys salivating over the new ungoro reveals?
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>>171405423
>Hippocampus
I was entirely with you up till then.
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>>171399874
>legendary hound from Greek Myths
>"Forte" meaning strong in Latin
Do they sound Asian to you?
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>>171405501
Satan dragon, not that it's much better.
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>>171405423
>check out my curve of slightly better bodies!
>meanwhile
>blood fills the board with 20/20 of creatures on turn 6
Like always, dragon is a set behind. If other crafts got literally nothing, dragon would be in a good space.
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>>171405484
How to automate rerolling:
1.Download Nox App player
2.Install Shadowverse and Root browser
3.Open Shadowverse
4.Hit Ctrl+9 to open the macro recorder
5.Click the "start/resume" button at the top.
6.Skip through tutorial, open your packs, and open your card collection screen while filtering legendaries
7.Click the stop button, it will save your script

If your reroll is good this is the point where you link your account, otherwise continue to step 8.

8.Close out of the shadowverse app
9.Open Root browser and navigate to data/data/com.Cygames.Shadowverse/shared_prefs
10a.If your reroll is bad delete the file titled "com.cygames.Shadowverse.v2.playerprefs.xml" (click and hold the file until the menu appears)
10b.If you want to keep rerolling but you don't want to lose your current account rename it something else
11.Reopen shadowverse, you will be prompted to make a new account
12.Click the play button next to the script you made earlier
13.Jack off until it finishes, then either keep or return to step 8.

What you reroll for depends on what you want to play.
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Give me a free win
75678
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>>171405484
Read the stuff in the "useful links" portion of the OP
You can skip all the tutorial shit by pressing the button in top right, although go through it properly the first time.
Open all your free packs, post your legendaries and golds here and reroll if told so. Only when you get a good roll, do the story missions and elite AI etc.
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>>171403657
I do not
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>>171405572
>first revealed legendary is literally shuffle a booster pack into your deck
nah, theyre never gonna tone down the rng. I dont mind some goofiness, but you just have so little control as the player.
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>>171405484
Well, to put it shortly. SV has powerful aggro and very powerful combo and late game cards.
Expect all games to end before turn 10 and your matchup/your first 10 cards be the main reasons why you would win/lose.
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Roaches always just clog my hand instead of being useful in wolf/ptp hybrid decks.

Why do i want them when they dont really win me games?
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>>171405720
Thanks
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>go second 2 times in a row
>lose 200 exp
>go first 2 next games
>gain 300 against master
>still need 3000~ for master
Everything is either Dshift or some unga deck that wins on t5-7 without trading with anything but wards. It's a literal coinflip whether you win or lose but it's stacked in your favor since you lose 70 vs mastershitters but they also feed you 100+.
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post ur best pack
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>>171405786
>>first revealed legendary is literally shuffle a booster pack into your deck
how is that not complete trash?
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>>171405786
What the difference with that and SVs apocalypse deck? Really no idea so I'm asking from What you just described.
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>>171404874
Thanks 3rd anon, GG! Match is still 51213
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>>171405939
I got a skullfane and forte in the same pack once
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>>171405484

Sword - jack of all trades with no bad matchups
Rune and Forest - designated combo classes
Haven - designated control
Blood and Shadow are burn and rng respectively.
Dragon is ramp and play neutral cards.
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>>171405952

Imagine you opened up a RoB pack

Whatever cards you got go into your deck now.
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>>171405632
It's not just them though. I feel like almost none of the characters in the game look asian besides rowen and Isabelle
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I worked so hard for my win.

How is this even fair?
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>>171405792
>SV has powerful aggro
Except Control has gotten so much shit in TotG compared to aggro's NOTHING that aggro might as well not exist anymore.
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Am i the only person in the world who hates playing as Forescraft?
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>>171406108
Those aren't supposed to be Asian either. The Asian ones have Asian names, like Tsubaki played by Erika Sumeragi.
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>>171406082
Meaning 104 different cards then randomly put 8 of them into the deck?

That's retarded.
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>>171405952
Imagine you replaced your deck with card packs that you open during the game to get the cards to play.
>>171406120
Well, yes, and the balance system is more about archetypes, yes. First they killed control, then it kinda returned, but midrange died, now its aggro's turn
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>>171405939
The moon drives me crazy
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>>171405952
because apocolypse deck is the same 10 cards every time. the only rng is which you draw. when people bitch about rng in hearthstone, they dont mean card draw rng since thats present in every card game.

>>171405951
the actual legendary is a 5 mana 5/5 so she's well statted. then you just get 5 cards from the set added to your hand after you draw the pack and they confirmed you get 1 legendary on average from the pack. if reno remains an archtype, she'll be played in it.
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>>171406116
IKUZO
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>>171406082
>>171406232
It's not the cards themselves, but a single "pack" which is basically just a put 5 random cards into your hand card.

The really retarded card is the one that replaces entire deck with discover a card.
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>>171406116
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>>171405951
It has a higher rate of legendaries than normal packs and contains at minimum 1 epic (gold in SV terms).

I don't see it making it into competitive decks since it's very slow. But it's the kind of card that people who hate RNG are going to point at regardless.
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What counters this """""""""""midrange""""""""""" sword cancer? I'm sick of seeing erika's retarded fucking face and her emoting "You have breathed your last!" everytime she's about to fucking kill me with Albert/Alwida.
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>misses lethal twice
>still won
I even feel bad for the other player, but damn today I'm retarded
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>>171406232
Hearthstone packs are 5 cards and they said that this pack would have very high drop rates for epics and legendaries.
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seraph niggers blown the fuck out
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>>171406406
Well turning off emotes hardcounters the "you have breathed your last" part.
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>>171405572
>>171405786
This. I haven't given up on hearthstone just yet but the literal rock-paper-scissors meta coupled with zero room for fun/interesting decks even in casual play mode has made the game pretty stale. I'll be playing once Un'goro actually hits but until then Shadowverse can be my side-waifu
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>try to play Dshit for dailies in unranked
>go through half my deck
>never draw Dshit
>play against Dshit
>turn 8 double Dshit every time

Why does the game hate me so much?
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>>171405939
i got a pack with two alberts once but i deleted all my screencaps
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>>171406630
Play Daria then
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>>171405921
Shut up Kripp. Nobody gives a shit about you going 2nd all the time
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>>171405939
I got once meme Atomy and Gabriel but this is better
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>>171406630
>not rerolling
thats what you deserve D nigger
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>>171406406
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2017/10/0/21
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2017/10/0/22
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2017/10/0/23
Considering that I don't know whether people are reporting it as aggro, face or midrange (since Shadowlog is a piece of shit), look at those and see if it seems worth it to you to invest in CBlood, CSword or Face Dragon.
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>>171406597
Shadowverse is just as bad in its own way. Once you reach a competitive rank, everything is deterministic.
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>>171406695
Kripp is not my name. My name is Daniel.
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>>171405562
I did it, anon!

Thank you for your support!
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>>171406082
>>171405952
When you play Elise she shuffles a "pack" into your deck.

The "pack" is a 2 mana spell that when played generates 5 cards from the new expansion, they can be of any class (unlike discover effects which are limited to neutral/class cards). This pack has a higher incidence of legendary and epic cards than actual boosters from the store, and at least one card is guaranteed to be epic or better (normal packs are at least 1 card is rare or better).

The five cards you get are added to your hand. You don't keep them after the match, that would be retarded.
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>playing aggro blood
>mulligan for early curve
>get imp lancers and an ambling wraith
>ambling wraith gets removed
>manage to get vampy T2
>gets removed
>veight T3
>gets removed
>T5 they play a huge ward and i can basically just go fuck myself

how can you faggots stand playing aggro this shit happens to me too often, and winning feels like i was just lucky topdecking shit
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Will Aegis actually be good for Elana? It'll be absolutely ridiculous once it comes out and starts getting buffed, but it seems to be a big case of win more. Much of the matchup is trying to survive long enough to get your heal engine running, and once you do you're usually in the lead to win by then. Also the new 2-drop that deals 2 damage to opponent every time you heal seems designed to make Elana matches shorter too once you are in the lead. I guess Aegis give an alternate win condition if you get your field nuked by Bahamut, but is it really worth it?
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>>171406832
Dies to: literally any bane, shadow removals, bahamut and similar things
Aegis is absolute garbage
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>>171406832
Elana has problems winning when their opponent doesn't let them set up a board, while also being able to stall a lot with their heals. I'd say Aegis fits the deck perfectly.
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>>171406597
>literal rock-paper-scissors meta
I don't want to sound like a HSshill but if that's what made you quit SV might not be right for you either.

We have a deck (Dshift) whose matchups are probably more skewed than any HS deck atm.
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>>171406436
>>171406380
I actually do not understand what you guys mean by this since I'm more of a visual learner. The only thing that I understand is that 1 pack in HS is 5 cards.
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>>171406832
Yes. It gives the deck an actual win condition and getting 2 out permacucks bahas which would previously shit on you.
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>>171406939
You are a retard.
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>>171406832
The "2 damage to enemy face on heal" is probably the best thing Elana got. That could actually be game-changing. Late game turns where they play a bunch of little heals and heal creatures will fucking maul your face.
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>>171406832
>Will Aegis actually be good for Elana?
Fucking bowman is better for Elana than Aegis.
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>>171406939
>can't be destroyed
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>>171406832
Elana gets countered by Bahamut. Guess what doesn't give a fuck about Bahamut? That's right, it's your girl Aegis.
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>>171406832
It guarantees a win vs slower decks like ER
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>>171406830
>playing vampy in T2
you sure are bright anon
>>171406939
>reading comprehension
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can we mod card names like with card art? i want magical big guy!
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>>171407019
>they really printed this card with no counters
Is it confirmed now that we've seen most Tempest cards that Odin/Seraph combo in DE was a one-time move they now consider a mistake?
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>>171406939
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>>171407062
so i should just pass turn 2 with no followers on board? great advice m8
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>>171407115
>implying the elf lego doesn't set all opposing attacks to 0
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>>171405939
Eidolon is shitty but the animated FBS is swag as fuck.
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>>171407016
>using targetted spells and effects
Bahamut doesnt need a target, lynching corpse doesnt need a target, khawy doesnt need a target, necroassasin doesnt need a target.
Banes destroy it regardless of "immunities"
Aegis is absolute garbage.
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>>171406939
>>171407115
There are 15 cards left in the set. They might print a card that sets the health of a follower to 0, but at this point, it's probably unlikely.
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>>171407115
Seraph is an OTK with countdown reduction. This takes at least 3 turns to kill you from 20 health. They are not comparable. Seraph is a much scarier card if you don't take Odin in consideration.
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>Forte is completely flat underneath her breastplate

Forte is confirmed a boy.
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>>171406832
>Will 9pp dies to themis actually be good for Elana?
nah
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>>171406963
this guy has it in simplest terms
>>171406826
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>>171407239
Why are shadowcucks so retarded?
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>>171407312
>that only makes my penis harder.jpg
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>>171407312
delete this
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>>171407213
better than losing that card anyways post the dick that you are using for aggro
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>>171407312
Please dont call my wife a boy
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>>171407239
>He actually believes this
Prepare for another banishcaust pedotumor.
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>>171407312
Busty dragon leader WHEN?
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>>171407413
Stop replying to bait.
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>>171407312
>forte is a boy
NGHHHH
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>>171407434
it's that shit the top guy farmed 20k points in masters

i don't like how it has no demonic storm
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STATECRAFT WHEN
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>>171407772
Master ladder literally doesn't matter at all.
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>>171407785
>Blackmail
>Take control of enemy follower
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>>171407785
STARCRAFT?
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>>171407413
Go play literally any card that has "cant be targeted by spells and effects" and then try and destroy it with any of the cards mentioned.
Aegis does NOT say "cannot be destroyed", it says it cant be destroyed with cards that are targetable on it (that relate to attack/defense aka pic related)
Banes will always destroy a follower even if they deal 0 dmg to it or if they have "cant be targeted by spells and effects"
Aegis is ABSOLUTE garbage
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>>171406981
>>171407016
>>171407062
>>171407240
retards
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>>171407785
>Negotiations
>No followers can attack until the start of your next turn
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>>171407887
>>171362157
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A preview of a series of superb shitposts ETA: soon
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>>171407312
I know femboi homo who crossdressed as forte, so everything makes sense now.
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>tfw bullying a rowen with some random deck you put together for a daily
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>>171407937
>>171407952
>this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects
Hurr durr
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>>171408026
Post photographic evidence.
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>>171407772
never had issues with that deck though. just the forest nigger beast and a couple of wards
>>171407952
>reading comprehension
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>>171407952
This wording is so confusing. If it dies to bahamut or whatever it is literally trash
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>>171407952
What are you trying to prove?
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>>171407952
>>171407937
This is an accurate translation of the Japanese text, not the one that is on the TotG site, fucking retards.
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>>171408026
LEWD
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>>171408024
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>>171404771
>Nono, the limit actually made deckbuilding difficult as you had to build a competetive deck within a certain range of laws, not just spamming 3 Darias into a random rune deck and calling it a day
Yes, because card rarity is a balancing feature.
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>>171406826
>>171407408

I watched the archive and saw Elise. That is just pure RNG. Pure fucking unnecessary RNG.
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When is shadowverse gonna get some REAL cards like pic related?
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Ancient Elf is bullshit
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>>171408087
>use necroassasin on buffed aurelia
>she dies
>use lynching corpse on earth rited gem golem
>it dies
>use bahamut on elf girl liza and her gangbang squad
>they all die
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>shadow players in charge of reading
unga bunga me remove me khawy
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>>171408165
That card is so fucking confusing
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>>171408228
I'm going to wait until next thread for selfish reasons and so I can have some lunch
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>>171405858
because dshift and seraph. And to OTK against heal spam.
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>>171408279
and none of them have Aegis's effect
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>>171408279
>>171408165
>reading comprehension
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>>171408279
Can't be targeted =/= can't be destroyed
Go back to school, retard.
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>>171408316
>/svg/ is this dumb
Holy shit, this general must be composed solely by americans.
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>>171408316
The card isn't confusing, the english translation team is. There are multiple different translations for this card, and even for other cards, the ENG translation doesn't match with the JP one.

Another big example is Belphegor. The wording is completely butchered and implies that you can have an infinite loop with Bloody Mary. I can't wait to see all the retards saying "b-but muh turn 9 OTK with bloody mary!!!!!" when Belphegor works exactly like Azazel.
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>>171408257
Doesn't stop seraph.
Dies to Baha.

GARBAGE
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>>171407937
Why does she have two pairs of ears?
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>>171405858
What else do you have for removal?
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>>171408165
>Those that change this card's defense
So every damaging spell works?
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Vania, vampire princess is quickly becoming one of my favorite cards. It's just so positive and generous. Practically costs nothing at all at two mana you drop her on the board and that chill ass motherfucker gives you a bat to use later in the game. And you also get this adorable little 2/2 can ping things but usually is too harmless to be removed.
But more than the Vania is just so positive. It comes on the board like "It's me, Vania!" and I'm like "yeah Vania let's do this shit" and when she attacks she's like "Yummy!" and I'm like "yeah they are SO YUMMY!" She doesn't say some bullshit macho shit like "I will destroy you" she's just like "nah yummy." And it looks so happy. I mean this is an vampire girl literally brought to life by magic. It understands it's life is a temporary magical gift and the dudette is just fucking loving it. I mean look at her face she's just so happy.
I am literally never sad when Vania is on board. IDK if she's gonna make it into the metagame or not but for now she (or he) a pretty chill card
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>>171408514
What if it chose the winning player of seraph's effect randomly?
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>>171405858
You bash them into big guys to keep you from dying and giving your opponent false confidence until you pop wolf onto the board
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>>171408316
Its really easy to understand. You can't remove it. Its just that no one wants to believe they made a card that cant be removed.
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>>171408467

RUDE

I'll have you know that as an american I understand that currently only entangling vines and other such cards affect Aegis.
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>this thread AGAIN

I can't wait when retard use themis, khawy or bahamut on it
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>>171408567
No. Meaning cards like entangling vines.
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>have unpacked one bloody mary a day for the past three days

I should just buy the Blood set from the shop and make a cheap control deck

Also this game is generous as hell. I got Saha and Fafnir yesterday and Odin two days ago. Is Fafnir any good?
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>>171408607
Why did they just write it there?
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>>171408316
Its not, rng removals and banes ignore the effect.
Theres a grand total of 2 cards that change attack of a follower and a magnificent 0 dispel cards.
Havenshitters think they're getting another Iwin card because they're used to playing elanaseraph every day for a year now
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>>171408583
Stop posting this i die everytime
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>>171408485
when will gaijins learn?
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>>171408629
>so autistic they gotta learn the hard way
This expansion is gonna be great.
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>>171408587
Seraph reads "win the match".

It's not targeted.
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>>171400737
Are SF and GBF set in the same universe?
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>>171408751
But which match is it winning? It has to target the match!
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>>171408629
What deck do you even play it in? Pure control haven?
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>>171408661
He used to be ok before Bahamut was a thing.
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>>171408686
>Its not, rng removals and banes ignore the effect.
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Looking for non-concede victory, can concede for you after if you like. Say 'lets battle again' if you want me to do that.
64481
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>>171408829
Alternative wincon for Sun Satan is most likely
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>>171408929
t-this can't be... this is like a second banishoah
khawy will surely work khawy will surely work khawy will surely work khawy will surely work
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>>171408823
>D shift player going off
>suddenly dies to a seraph from some random c3 game

Stories to tell your friends
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>>171397215
>seregios
>3pp 3/2
>fanfare: target follower will be destroyed after its next attack

>gravios
>7pp 3/5
>ignore the first attack or removal effect on this follower each turn

>zinogre
>4pp 2/4
>evolve: gain +4/+0 and deal 3 damage to all other followers, the bonus is lost if this follower takes damage
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>>171408829
>What deck do you even play it in?
You don't because it's a 9pp do nothing
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man, Aegis is prime bait material
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>>171408485
Wait it works like azazel for 4pp? That's really good.
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>>171408629
Someone edit this image. Replace Cygames with Aegis and Aegis with /svg/.
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>>171408823
really stimulates my hippocampus
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>>171408929
>Posting bad translations
Enjoy your 9pp do nothing that dies to Bahamut havencuck.
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What am I supposed to do if haven drops aegis along with pic related?
Cry?
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>>171408583
>(or he)
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>>171408929
Says affected not "cant be destroyed with random RNG elements" or "aoe removal.
Sorry seraphcuck.
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>>171409191
They can't attack your face until it's gone.
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>>171409185
That's accurate with the Japanese text, mentally damaged autist.
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>>171409134
Just the damaging yourself till 10 HP part.
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>>171409270
Aegis isnt affected
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>>171409243
>shadowtards need this much detail on a rather easy to understand card
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>>171409095

>people in private matches spam random seraph procs to troll everybody in ranked.
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>>171409320
>yet another retard
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>>171409320
This is the correct answer. An example from last night of a similar mechanic from Kripp's stream:

Kripp played Bahamut. The enemy played 1 guy and an ambush creature. The guy then conceded. All the people from Hearthstone watching the stream thought the guy was an idiot who didn't realize Bahamut can't attack, but because the ambush guy can't be attacked he doesn't count for Bahamut's creature criteria. Aegis is the same. Its text says it can't be affected by other cards, so it doesn't count as a creature for the amulet.
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>>171409395
>cant be destroyed by any means
>also isnt counterable by any card currently in the game
>because i say so
>Yeah this sounds balanced in my ElanaSeraph deck :^) thanks cygames!
Not even shadow main. You're just stupid if you think its like that
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>>171408629
Forest has a lot of cards that change stats. The last forest legendary will be a counter to your cancer
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>>171409442
>another retard that doesnt have reading comprehension
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>>171409510
You are trying too hard.
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>>171409564
>Cygames gives you text of a card
>NO IT CAN'T BE WHAT THEY SAID IT IS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE TOO POWERFUL!
How new to card games are you?
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requesting facial cum shop on this slut
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>>171409320
Here we go again.
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>>171408567
>So every damaging spell works?
maybe, but it cant be destroyed so it doesn't even matter
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>>171409564
>translation says can't be destroyed by effects
>b-but rng effects aren't actually effects d-duh
>pls work khawy pls work
Lmao, retard.
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>last revealed neutral card sets enemy followers attack to 0
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>>171409185
>there's actual people here that believe this.
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>>171409191
>if there is a follower that can be attacked
Are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>171409564

Sup'
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>>171409727
It literally says cant be affected not destroyed.
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>>171409510
>but because the ambush guy can't be attacked he doesn't count for Bahamut's creature criteria

But he fucking does.
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>>171408661
>Is Fafnir any good?
Do you see him played at all? No? Well, then I guess that answers your question.
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I don't know who's baiting who anymore
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>>171409840
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>>171409698
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>>171399978
>edgelord skeleton over delicious loli
Shit taste.
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>>171409578
Try reading Test of Strength
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>turn 11, have seraph lapis, glory be on field but nothing to boost with, only 5 hp left against blood
>prepare to accept defeat from imp lancer or razory claw + blood wolf or something given that the enemy has 4 cards
>enemy emotes sorry and drops baha
>win

This is like the 7th time someone has tried to baha or execute my countdown amulets. Do people really not understand how they work? I remember a game earlier where someone played baha into my birdsong + aria
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>>171409564
>can't be affected by specific effects except by effects I'd like it to be effected
>why?
>because I say so
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>>171409901
kek
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>>171409901

I don't know why people even care.

You can just trade Aegis trade. It's not rocket science.
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>>171409780
Aegis can be attacked. He won't receive damage but he can be attacked. That way you can activate clash abilities and effects like Fangblade's.
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>>171409818
Both translations state it cannot be destroyed. You can stop trying now.
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Aegis will bring confusing problems yo people who can't understand. Like those who thought guardian sun + eidolon works.
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>>171410014
Maybe the emote was "sorry, I have nothing else to play"? There's no need to assume someone is stupid just because their hand sucks.
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>>171410117
I hope those people fucking die.
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>>171410017
>banes kill shit regardless of immunities
>but not on this card
>why?
>because I a professional 450game master elanaseraph player says so
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>>171410117

Just because guardian sun gets killed doesn't mean eidolon loses his ward.

Dumbass.
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so haven is confirmed for dead in ToG right? besides some potential memes with aegis they've gotten nothing but useless shit so far
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>mfw all these people are arguing over a card that probably won't even see play
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>>171410228
Elana got massive face damage boost. Dunno if that will matter, but it's something.
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>>171408861
That's too bad. The art and voice are sick

>>171409847
I've played about 30 matches total, ever. Only ran into Rowen a few times (mostly it's Erika and the loli) and matches rarely make it to turn 9 or 10 so I honestly don't know how frequently some of the larger legos are played. Like I know people use Bahamut but I haven't seen him played yet.
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>>171409840
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>>171410201
What part of "can't be affected by spells and effects" can't you understand?
Bane is an effect.

We didn't have an immune to effects card yet, never.
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>>171410232
>elana haven will stop existing next patch
nah
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>Your opponent magically has perfect curve in T2 every time

So how is this mode supposed to be fun?
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Okay, non-ESL Anons, please enlighten me : are most people actually oblivious to the meaning of the verb "affect", or what ?
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>>171410219
>retard that thinks that guardian sun is a follower
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>>171410228
Elana aeigis deck will be holocaust cancer. their only weakness was bahamut but now they won't care about that either
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>>171410228
Elana with Aegis will probably be a thing.
Other than that, Seraph will stay relevant if we go into a Control meta.

>le Odin meme
Seraph can much more consistently set up Seraph than any Control deck can draw Odin.
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>>171410219
What a fucking retard.

In the first fucking place, Eidolon DOES NOT GAIN the ward even though you can see it you stupid fuck. You can attack face even if Eidolon has the damn ward. "Can't be attacked" and "Ward" DO NOT STACK you fucking moron.
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>>171410228
Heal havencraft is going to be broken with that 2PP 2/2 follower that deals 2 damage to the enemy face each time you heal your leader

It has potential for OTK memes, even
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>>171409564
>>171408686
>>171407952

How the fuck are you guys so retarded.

Aegis can't die. There's currently no ability to reduce his defense to 0.

No, Bane will not work, he's immune to destruction.

No, RNG kills like Khawy and Tribunal won't work, cause guess what? He's immune to destruction.

No, Guardian sun, and by extension, Test of strength won't affect HIM. He gets free reign to just take a shit on you unless you have a ward up.

However, you'll need to deal with Test of Strength anyways, cause it affects YOUR creatures.

Right now, the only clear counters are an evolved Kaguya and the New sword amulet that reduces all damage to 4.
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>>171410228
Haven has been two expansions ahead from the rest thanks to DE anyway.
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>>171410345
rune golem also says its immune to cards and effects and yet it dies to banes,rng removals and bahamut

There is literally no arguing in this, its not invincible. It would say "Cannot be destroyed by any means" otherwise.
It will be able to get targetted by -attack and -defense shit (but not die, aka vines) and it will die to banes and rng removals and bahamut like everything else does
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Stay salty swordfag.
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>>171410343
Nothing in Bahamut's effect description says he has to care about attackble or not attackble followers. Just any 2 followers on board.
Learn to fucking read and stop counter baiting.
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>>171410228
ayo hold up

>candelabra lowers amulet cooldown by 1
i just realized how insane the value of this is if you use it with 1cd amulets
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>>171410425

If guardian sun can get hit by Kaliedoscope, then it's a follower, DOOFUS.

>>171410469

Where are you pulling this information from, your ass?

I'm a masters player that's used the combo, I'm telling you it works, and it's broken.
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>>171410643
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>>171410563
>rune golem also says its immune to cards and effects
How about you read the cards you retard.
There's a difference between being untargettable (Aurelia, Mainyu, new Rune legendary) and not being affected at all.
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>>171410563
This is in its card text
>(For example, this follower can't be destroyed or banished using spells and effects.)
That card text is on no other card in the game that has "cannot be targeted"
You're just baiting, but hopefully this will make less people unironically believe you.
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>>171410563
Just fucking kill yourself already you fucking retard, preferably by a random effect.
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>>171410480
>Heal havencraft is going to be broken with that 2PP 2/2 follower that deals 2 damage to the enemy face each time you heal your leader

It's really not that good. You severely limit the amount of healing you can do just by having to play that card on the same turn you heal, and since it's a follower, it won't last more than one turn anyway. There's little room for gimmicks like that in an Elana deck.
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>>171410469
he can get ward but you can still attack face because Can't be attacked and Ward doesnt do anything
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>>171409125
>>171410343
Can you go back to whatever Fate/Hurr Durr shithole you crawled out of?
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>>171410563
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Guys there is a neutral gold to be revealed yet, its gonna counter aegis, you'll see
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>>171410703
If thats the case then it literally can be destroyed because it doesnt say it cannot be destroyed.
>>171410709
Same thing again, it only applies to spells that can target it aka vines
So which is it? The official jap description or the translation? it cant be both.
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>>171410643
>I'm a masters player that's used the combo, I'm telling you it works, and it's broken.

It does not work you fuck. Are you retarded?

How would I know? Because I did the same fucking thing before. The first time Eidolon came out in RoB that's the first shit I tried. Guardian Sun to Eidolon with Ward.

It
Does
Not
Work


>>171410754
That's literally what I just fucking said.
>In the first fucking place, Eidolon DOES NOT GAIN the ward even though you can see it you stupid fuck.

The guy I am replying to says that it works. See >>171410643
Why am I the one you replying to me about that?
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>>171410828
>0PP Neutral Spell
>Causes the other player to understand Aegis' card text
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>>171410828

Khawy already counters Aegis.

I guess they could release a neutral answer, but every craft can already handle Aegis.
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>>171409936
nice
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Does anyone know when the next cards will be revealed?
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>9 evolution points in a sinlge match

disgusting
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>>171410891
whoops wrong rep my bad anon
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>>171410926
Judging how retarded people are I hope soon.

People still are confused about Aegis, I don't know why.
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>>171410891

>It does not work you fuck.

Maybe for you, but when I do it, suddenly they can't attack face.
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>>171410891
stop responding to trolling retards you (possibly trolling) retard
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>>171410828
You don't NEED a counter to Aegis unless you're planning to have prolonged duels that last past turn 10 or 11. Even then, whatever slow-ass deck you're playing auto-loses to Dshit anyway, so that should be the target of your complaints, not some Haven meme card.
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>Heavenly Aegis
>Fanfare: Cause a shitstorm anytime the card is mentioned on an anime imageboard
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>>171411073
>not expecting a card in future sets that pulls Aegis out for free on turn 7
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>>171410889
Okay, I'll just treat you like a child and do this step by step. See that post just above yours ?
For a destruction effect to destroy a card, it must be able to affect it. If the destruction effect doesn't affect the card, then it doesn't apply its destruction effect to it.
Therefore, the card doesn't need to specify "cannot be destroyed", because it cannot be affected by anything in the first place, be it destruction, or your own Guardian Sun, for example.
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>>171411073
>play aegis on turn 9
>then seraph next turn

What you gonna do cuckboi? Haven is t-5 next expansion
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Which prebuilts are worth the dosh? Assuming I want to play those crafts, anyway.
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Why are people so confused about Aegis when the translation in the Shadowverse twitter is clear?

https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/838117156126523397

"Cannot be affected by any other card's abilities except for those that change this card's attack or defense".
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>aegis elana will be free ranked points against retards for the first day
better craft it day 1 I gues
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>swordcucks
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>>171411073
>post TotG CSword auto-loses to DShift
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>>171411313
Day 1 of a new set is the only time you get to have fun on Shadowverse anyway, it's not specific to this card
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>>171411349
poor Alexander got powercreeped by a fucking duck
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>>171407505
Your wife Forte (male) pleases strangers for wins!
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>>171409564
>also isnt counterable by any card currently in the game

Cards that reduce attack or literally any ward. In the absolute best circumstances aegis takes 4 turns to kill you from full.

>turn to play the card
>turn to attack
>turn to attack
>turn to attack and kill

And this is assuming you don't play any wards, reduce Aegis' attack, or heal yourself.

For comparison, a seraph drawn on turn 8 (one turn earlier than aegis) in the absolute best circumstances only takes 2 turns to kill you.
>turn to play
>turn to boost the countdown to finish

Seraph can only be countered by banishing the amulet, of which only two cards in the game can do. And you only have one turn to draw one of those cards in order to do it. Seraph is far more """broken""" than Aegis will be. It's one pp less and wins you the game faster with less counters. Don't forget that seraph is more consistent too since you can tutor with Prism Priestess.

Of course, Seraph and Aegis both share another counter. Just kill Eris. This is why seraph isn't broken and has a sub 50% winrate. Aegis will not be any different.
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ITT
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>>171411073
>Someone wants to play longer than 9 turns, its another shoah!
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>>171411428
Chances of you having 20hp vs an elanaseraph 10 turns in is nonexistant
Aegis is basically an instawin on turn 10
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>>171411349
>thinking Roland the Overestimated will save you from 2 Flame Destroyers and 2 Dshits on turn 8
>especially with Petrification becoming more prominent
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>>171411487
swap khawy and aegis
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>>171399370
This

I already said this but you run ouroboros in storm ramp

You focus on reach and early survival with ouro as your main lategame
He's what you want to play every turn from 8 pp to 10 pp

When you fall behind you use an odin or bahamut

Once you're ahead you play a genesis or use satan

Going for maximum reach with forte+urd to punish the opponent for leaving ouro alive even just one turn

List for ouro ramp would look something like this
2*blazing breath
3*unica
3*oracle
3*salamander breath
3*grimnir
3*aiela
2*rahab
2*urd
2*siegfried
(yes no dragon warriors and I'm not sure if this will work. Else replace siegfried with dragon warrior if ToG meta is faster and you need more power/consistency for your turn 4 play and expect to use an evo everytime on turn 4)
2*fervor
2*sibyl
3*forte
2*wyvern cavalier (sets up for the big tempo swing turns or for combos)
2*ouroboros
2*odin
1*satan
2*baha
1*genesis

Very powerful lategame storm deck that should do very well against control all together and should work against d shift if you get a good ramp start and some fortes in your opening hand or a cavaliered satan

Not sure how well it'll do against aggro and midrange, but maybe sybil heals are good enough to carry that; for that you'd wanna play saha ramp anyway though

You might wanna consider running 3 sybil if she's amazing

Dark Angel Olivia is a nice pick aswell
You can drop the genesis for her, since with evolve forte does just as much damage as that guy
autism
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>Heavenly Aegis, the untouchable armor of a god. Smite your foes and laugh when they try to smite you back!

I trust Intern-kun.

His extra commentary confirms that nothing can remove this card from the field.
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>>171411656
I hope D Shift will be forced to run 3 petrify, it would really brick them against some matchups
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so how exactly does one create a living immortal carrot that can defy the gods? what ingredients does khaiza use for this shit?
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>>171411648
it's a donothing. it's only a win if you're not in combo range of your opponent/you have board control/you have very high hp
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>>171411778
If by "brick", you mean slow down by 1 turn sure.
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>>171411723
>laugh at the cucks in denial trying to remove it
Intern knows his shit
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>>171411487
>But Khawy counters every other big card!


>>171411656

I know Ambush is a meme, but next expansion looks like it'll support the fuck out of it. How would D-Shift even deal with that?
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>>171411715
Small nitpick: Forte/Urd isn't as overwhelming a combo now that any normal body of 5 attack or higher does the same thing with Arriet if it's allowed to live. I guess Urd will still be run to pop Aiela, but if our mana curve wasn't already too top heavy I'd say Arriet would replace Urd's role entirely.
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>>171411827
>9pp lose 10 hp every turn
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>>171411723
I think the intern lurks here.

>couple threads ago we make some OC with goblin king ward
>he exist next expansion
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>>171411656
CSword has almost 46% winrate against DShift right now. If they are getting a counter that asks for an immediate response from DShift that is not a current staple in deck, DShift is not going to do so well against them.
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>>171411778
they wouldn't have to run 3. they draw 3/4ths of their deck and only need one to take out a specific card for their win combo in one or two matchups
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>>171411842
That's what "brick" means in the context of D Shift, yeah
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>>171411935
Fiery chain. Mutagenic bolt.
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>havenshitter bricks and never draws aegis
>still lose because its elanaseraph

Aegis is b-broken guise
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>>171411935
>>171412078
Someone else pointed out to me they won't even run mutagenic, they'll just use snowmanify
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>>171412037
>thinking the guy who manages the English Twitter has any responsibility in creating cards
That's the jap devs' job
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>only Haven and Blood can counter Snek (Themis, Revelation)
>only Haven can counter Aegis (Kaguya)
Who ready for haven & Blood meta
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>>171412208
Calamitious works too
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>>171412150
>losing to a deck with 6 endgame donothing legos
you brought it on yourself
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>>171412240
Why is the unused art always better than the ones they picked?
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>>171412037
I think you might be retarded.
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>>171412208
>what is Calamitous Curse
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>>171412206
>he fell for the b8

Hello intern-kun.
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What ethnicity is Isabelle?
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>>171412206

>"Make the Goblin King, or I make the memest memes like Rowen versus Luna who would win? with a follow-up next week with Khawy in the card spotlight"
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>>171412305
true, unless you get dicked and cant setup turn 5 dirt sigil
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>>171412402
Doubt it since blood needs to setup amulet and tutor
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>>171411842

1 turn is alot. Especially when Storm and aggro shadow is a thing. 1 turn delay can be literally game losing.

>>171411935

So, add in 2-3 of each? I feel that on top of Petrify, this will lead to even more bricks early. Having Muta in your starting hand is slow as fuck and Fiery chain dilutes your Merlin pulls (I don't play Dshift but I'm pretty sure everyone runs merlin right?). Also, Mutagenic bolt doesn't even really cut the aggro down, they still deal damage to you, meaning unless you clear them all, they'll still be dealing ~6 damage to you per turn on turn 6 onwards assuming you morphed 3 followers.
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>>171412390
Her ethnicity is boobs
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>>171412390
Whore
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>>171412394
>I make the memest memes like Rowen versus Luna who would win?
did this really happen?
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>>171411946
Really?
Arriet on ouroboros is an extra 8 damage, while forte+ord is 10
A single evolve adds to 20

I like urd as a 4 drop in general though and she works so wonderfully with the silent rider
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Quick question: how does one go about finding decks on this jap website linked on the sticky?
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>>171411127
Underrated post.
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>>171412561

There's been some pretty lopsided matchups that he's posted.
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>>171412526

Mean to respond to this anon with >>171412526
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>>171412379
I wish. I'd do cryptic shit like have the first letter of each tweet spell out a hint regarding a new card or something
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>>171412590
speak japanese
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It's photo day in shadowverse academy!

Give me your best smile /svg/!
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Just attack Aegis with your own Aegis
You'll be able to damage him since your Aegis isn't affected by Aegis's invincibility :^)
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>>171412590
Google Translate the page
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I hope dragon becomes really strong in ToG.

Why? Because you fucks are too retarded to understand simple English. You fucks don't deserve to play a real craft like dragon, the real thinking man's deck.
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>>171403547
>/gbfg/
>Cog
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>>171412390
Jamaican Voodoo nugger majik
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Cog as a dirt rune legendary when
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>>171412568
Forte + Urd is 10 mana. Arriet is 6. Arriet also extends that sort of combo to just about any deck that runs big drops, whereas Urd was restricted to storm creatures, of which there are very few you can play from hand with Urd that are also high attack.
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>>171412480
Why does this look so much better than Alchemist's Workshop?
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>>171412739

>disliking cog
>old man in little girl's body

Literally livin the dream lad.
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>>171412719
It will. ToG Dragoncraft is literally Immortalcraft. Ptp dragon T0.
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>>171412696
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>>171412815
Oops, I fugged up. Arriet is 7. I still think she is at least as good as Urd for the "storming the face" niche. Obviously Urd has more flexibility for triggering last gasps.
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>>171412910
God I wish that were me.
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>>171412696
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>>171412894
>you will never turn yourself into a loli
why live
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>>171412696
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>>171412719
Dragon would only be strong in ToG if you can discard the opponents hand instead of yours. And seriously why arent there any cards like that? There is absolultely no way to stop a combo
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>>171412696
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>>171412815
*7 but I see
I just doubt any minions are going to stick in removalverse
So you'd probably chip away health until he's in range

But I'll try it out and run maybe some big guys instead of forte
Maybe even try the frozen mammoth instead of forte if you have arriet and see how that goes
Should be easy enough to activate
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>>171412841
It's not. You are just distracted by the big tits.
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>>171413119
Well I mean one of the things that was proposed is using Forte + Urd if they let Ouro survive a turn... well with Arriet you can just play her when Ouro survives to do another 8 damage for 7. I admit in that example it's technically not as much damage as Forte + Urd, but it has potential.
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>>171412696
greetings
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>>171413054

>Even hearthstone can disrupt combos

Uh, shadowbabs?
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>>171413054
Because discarding cards from the opposing hand is just as much cancer as DShift.
>lmao let me fuck up your curve or you entire gameplan without you being able to do anything about it
There are better ways to counter combo. Instants would be a much better option.
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>>171412696
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>>171413268
>one class out of 9
Damn nigga that's a good joke
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>>171413304
Instants will never happen. The best we can do is something like Loatheb that increases mana costs on the opposing player's turn.
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>>171412696
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>>171413304
I'm not talking about EVERY discard effect being on opponent instead. Dragon has way too many of those that you can build an entire deck of nothing but that just 1 or 2 cards
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>>171412696
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>>171412696
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>>171413392
Just make them Secrets instead (and turn them into something other than Spells so DShift cannot use them)
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>>171413218
It's just for the case that hey decide to ignore it
It's a way to punish aggro/midrange players stupid enough to leave it alive(maybe they don't wanna trigger his last words or something) and instantly kill them, which is only possible with forte+urd

Arriet doesn't do the 20 damage thing, so I dunno if it'll have the same result
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>>171413391

Dirty Rat is neutral.
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Control really is debatebly the most skill based of all archetypes and can be very intense till the very last card. every minor decision becomes of mayor importance at later turns. this is far better than playing skilless and boring aggro
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>>171413482
Bogpill overload?
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>>171413304
Is there any online ccg with instants? How does that even work, there's a forced delay between every card play?
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This is the exact same shit as Hearthstone. The EXACT SAME SHIT. Opponent goes face with everything, and despite having proactive plays and removal and healing and taunt EVERY SINGLE TURN, ZERO floated mana, I STILL LOSE to 'LOL FAEC XDD'

Why the fuck should I bother trying to play this instead of curvestone if it just ends up with the same fucking experience?

The exact turn by turn thing isn't completely accurate in the later turns, but those cards were played within a turn of when I've written them. It's like I'm playing against pirate warrior and he kills me turn 5 in spite of on curve Doomsayer and whatever else.
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>>171412696
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>>171413503
Yeah, the fact she's 7 instead of 6 has me wondering if she is worth replacing Urd. I do like her flexibility though. So many powerplays she can make with certain big bodies. If they leave a ward alive, it can trade things out and if it lives through the trade, be healed and then get another attack. You can make Bahamut attack twice (lul), etc. It makes me wonder if eventually a mid-range dragon deck could be a thing. Focusing on value creatures with Arriet finisher.
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>>171413559
tldr, you have severe autism

kill yourself
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>>171413559
>lose to unga because of bunga

Tell me more anon. Fascinating story.
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>>171413559
>albert is broken
We know
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>>171412696
Y-You're not just stealing reaction pic images right?
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>>171413559
>Why the fuck should I bother trying to play this instead of curvestone if it just ends up with the same fucking experience?
You shouldn't because sword is pretty much all unga and cygames will never allow sword to be anything other than tier 1.
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>>171413548
A lot of people only play it on their phones. Those players are going to want shorter games because they're just hopping on to play a quick game during a break. If games run too long, they either won't be able to finish the match or they'll run out of battery life.
>>171413552
Yes. Others go miniatures combat and cards are actually characters in a battlefield.
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>>171413552
Eternal has it and a blocking phase and ambush creatures (can be played from hand instantly to block, or at end of opponent's turn). It works fine. Hearthstone and Shadowverse are just babby mode games.
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>>171413552
YGO has quick effects that work like Instants. In the most commonly used automated simulator, the game will constantly ask you if you want to activate something, stopping your opponent from doing anything until you answer whether you want to respond or not. However, you can hold a button to skip those, so your opponent won't know that you have an answer, and you can hold another button to force those, so you can play mindgames.
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>>171413727
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>>171413552
YGOPro. Every time a player plays does something, if the opponent has the option to respond, the game asks you if you want to. When a player is wondering if he should answer or not, the timer starts ticking for him, even if it's not his turn.
You can also hold a key to stop the game asking you if you want to answer stuff during a certain time period.

However this isn't a commercial game, so it can do things differently.
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>>171413668
Maybe run arriet in saha ramp then?
Dunno if ouroboros is good with her, since he's a lot less sticky than israfil(which has amazing synergy with arriet)
or luci because of his low health
She should be amazing in neutral saha ramp
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>>171413559
You shouldn't. If you already play Hearthstone and have a full collection, Shadowverse is the same thing. The only reason to play Shadowverse is if you are F2P and want a more generous game, waifus, etc. Incidental stuff. Shadowverse's core mechanics are rotten, just like Hearthstone.
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>>171413857
Tittyko please go.
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>>171413559
>an Aggro deck is currently tier 1
>why am I losing to Aggro?
Are you fucking retarded? There is a reason why Albert Sword has 56% winrate and it has nothing to do with the fact that this game is full of Aggro, because it isn't, since the next best two Aggro decks are worse than or on par with many other Tempo, Combo and Control decks.
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>>171412696
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>>171413559
At least HS has a semi balanced Arena, here its literally Sword go 2nd win
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>>171413959
I like the idea of ramp with Ourobro, but I was already running Saha/Luci ramp with storm, so that's what ramp means to me anyway.
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>>171413962
are you one of those retards that pretends card rng doesn't matter because there's rng in what you draw?
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>trials to A0 with aggro blood
>get matched with 2 swords
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>>171414113
>At least HS has a semi balanced Arena
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>>171414137
Nah, I'm one of those retards who has played plenty of card games so I know there's plenty of them better than Shadowverse, even if Shadowverse has that marginal edge on Hearthstone in terms of card RNG. Duel of Champions (shut down), Eternal (still active, better mechanics by a mile), hell, even Duelyst has more depth to it than the deterministic games of Hearthstone and Shadowverse.
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>>171414147
Why do you care ? Trials are the most stress-free thing in the game besides Masters, since you can try infinitely with no penalty.
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>>171414113
>Oh, I went first and I have a one drop that can kill the two drop, or 3 drop, I probably won
>At least HS has a semi balanced Arena
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>>171413959
Arriet in general seems to be a card people are sleeping on. You can probably meme by playing one of the shit followers that gets +attack until the end of the turn when they attack and combo them with Arriet when the opponent doesn't respect them.

Even Skull Dragon can do 20 damage in a turn with that.
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>>171414137
Are you one of those retards that pretends radically different impact in your initial draws shouldn't matter because every CCG has card draw?
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>won 5 in a row
>lost 5 in a row
wow nice fucking game
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>>171414230
Add Infinity wars and krosmaga, ded and french respectively
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>>171414120
Saha/luci is weak against d shift and combo decks though

And ouroboros is not neutral, so you can't use him with saha
I think the best way to use ouro is as a replacement for your lategame, since he comes back to hand
And not as an addition to your lategame
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Gotta love those motherfuckers that dislike a game but still spend time in a general on /vg/ dedicated to said game
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>>171414298
>skull dragon/disaster dragon and arriet
Why didn't I think of this? Thanks anon, it will be fun memeing.
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>>171414230
Bbbut mai waifu
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>>171414298
>and combo them with Arriet when the opponent doesn't respect them.
So... never?
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>>171414351
>win by t4
>enemy concedes by t4

Nice game
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>>171414230
i don't care if you think other games are better. but going 'hurr there's no qualitative difference between these two games' because the basic layout is the same is downs
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>>171412696
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>>171414298
The card that Arriet is going to get comboed with horrifically is Tsubaki.

Anything with Ambush works really.
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>>171414298
>skull dragon for 20 dmg
Hehe
Seems to be very reliant on your opponent being stupid though or very far behind on the board
I never had a skull dragon survive a turn except in Take 2
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>>171414428
Everything that isn't aggro is weak to D Shift, so that's not saying much.
And yeah... that's what I was saying too, that Ouro shouldn't just be "another" late-game card, but then people were calling me an idiot who had never played quicker tempo decks, so there's no winning when it comes to theorycrafting.
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>>171414428
Not if you're running a storm variant with Fortes and Gilgamesh (placeholder for Zeus)
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>>171414431
I dont dislike the game just bullshit decks and daria
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>>171414647
But that IS the game. Every set, people figured out some deck (or 2) that was clearly better than everything else to a cancerous level. You can't queue into ranked past a certain point without accounting for D Shift/Daria/Sword.
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>Shadowbaboons pretending their game isn't as RNG heavy as hearthstone when in SV games are routinely decided by your initial 5 cards due to super fast games made with mobile audience in mind
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Shut the fuck up, aegis retards.
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>>171414647
>bullshit decks and daria
Why do you exclude daria from the bullshit decks?
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>>171414646
>fortes
How do you fit all that lategame into saha ramp holy fug
I understand some gilgas, but fortes aswell?
Then you have no room for israfil or a satan
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Whatever happened to leader pack 2?
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>>171414960
Israfil's place is actually fairly questionable. Her only use when pulled from Saha is to clear a 2 health board. So Saha/Isra is a slightly better Salamander in terms of leaving a body behind. Playing her on curve is pretty awful. 9 mana heal 4, she won't even do her 2 damage to board effect unless you evolve that turn.
In a vacuum she's a great card, but ramp dragon is going to be a cutthroat competition for deck space, I believe there will be ramp decks that leave her out.
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I love Eris!
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>>171414934
Because it's balanced now.
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>>171414812
I've encountered maybe 1 or 2 Daria decks since I hit AA, they dont seem very common at this level
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>>171415212
>implying 0 cost board flood and removal will ever be balanced
The winrate isn't absurd anymore, but no one wants to face that deck if it gets a good hand, even now
That seems to be the play theme of Runecraft from Cygames perspective: make it as unfun to play against as possible.
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>>171415212
>t4 ogler flood is balanced
SICK MEME
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>>171414960
I don't play Satan or Odins, it aims to use the Forte and Saha->Gil/Zeus to try to just beat DShift and Seraph instead. And since it's storm I have Urd for Aiela ramping as well as if they let any of the storm units live like Gil and Genesis
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>>171415085
you mean the ugly sf leaders? they will probably come with the new expansion
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>>171415239
I've seen tons of them at AA3, but I won't extrapolate my experiences to the meta. I can say that I have heard everyone saying D Shift is rampant again in Masters.
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>>171415212
>daria
>balanced
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>>171412696
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>>171415354
it's balanced because everything in this game is broken.
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>>171413559
you have to make your metacalls anon. if your deck relentlessly dies to albertcraft, then maybe you should pick another deck.
or add more removal.

i just got alberted 3 turns in a row and i'm still not as salty as you because i know that if i killed that fucking maid leader on turn 4 then i'd still be alive now.
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>>171415373
>no odins
>no satans
I win so many games on the back off these guys I'm not sure I wanna drop them
Really powerful cards
Satan won me so many games, since he's so powerful with ramp
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>>171415131
You can probably get away cutting 1 Breath and 1 Lucifer for 2 Isa. Assuming you're using 2 Sibyl there will be some redundancy from all the healing effects anyway since you'll still probably be running a couple copies of Unica.

I can see the ramp list changing quite a bit, potentially even dropping Aelia for Grimnir since Sibyl also ramps and isn't a huge tempo loss. Using Rahab should be viable too.
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>>171414113
>HS has a semi balanced Arena
It's literally all mage. At least shadow and dragon are viable in t2 along with sword.
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>>171415552
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>>171415760
Yeah I was wondering about Aiela myself or Dragon Oracle. Aiela feels so bad in so many situations (banish, they don't kill her)... but then again, she is ramp with a body attached, which is still the gold standard of ramp in this game.
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>>171415212
>flood the board for 0pp
>somehow deal with it
>lol jk you die to burn alone
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>>171415314
Just themis it bro
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NEW THREAD

>>171415823
>>171415823
>>171415823
>>171415823
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>>171412696
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>>171415812
>start playing boardclearing 13/13s turn 7
don't you start with me
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>>171415890
I don't play Haven but I'll take your prospect anyway
>themis it
>they play another Daria and board flood again
I mean we have all had games as control (myself as dragon) where we clear multiple times and still lose to incidental burn and the charge dudes
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dead general dead game
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>>171416001
Just themis it again bro and heal.
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>>171415667
I just consider them separate deck subtypes that each have some different strengths and weaknesses.The storm variant can actually beat DShift but gets cucked by ward heavy decks and probably doesn't do as well against Seraph most of the time since they also heal. Zeus will probably replace my Genesis Dragons when he comes out to have the option to take 25% of the opponent's life with each Saha if Luci isn't needed in the situation.
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>>171416097
s-sauce
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