/ndg/ Nier/Drakengard General #8

>>171322645
>people that kill non-hostile machines
Fucking monsters

Threadly reminder that 9S is the worst character in Nier:Automata.

OP, plis
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/

BITE THE DAMN POD YOU DUMB RAY

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Anyone have the solution to "game runs for 10 seconds then closes by itself without error message" ?

>>171322902
Nope. The worst character is No one you piece of shit.

>>171322902
You're thinking of 2A.

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Needed more Devola.

>>171322903
Query: For what purpose is this particular link? Why does Anon find it important to add to the OP?

>>171322997
Roll back your drivers, maybe? It's a little early to ask these questions.

Steam was a fucking mistake

>>171323217
9S is cute! CUTE!

I want this game ;-;

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what did they mean by this bros?

I guess this is where I post this?
>Start game
>Finish opening sequence
>Open store
>Sell items
>OS Chip
>Selling this means death
>Fa[T]al Error
Just wanted to say that I love this game already. I'mma go before I get spoilered to hell and back.

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>>171323217
Do not bully the 9S.

>>171323290
Yeah, I just got back from work. Bit pissed it's apparently a shite port. I'm guessing I won't have much luck if I go 1440p fullscreen? Some people are doing it, somehow.

Hopefully the Zestiria guy fixes it, seems like his type of game.

>>171323528
Use a guide. USE A GUIDE.

>>171323528
>Any general tips to make the game more fun/bearable?
No. Prepare for suffering. DoD1 changes a man.
>Can you get all of the weapons just by playing the game normally or do you have to do some extra stuff along the way?
Using a guide is basically a necessity, almost all of them are hidden in super obscure places, and some don't even spawn until you fulfill some arbitrary requirements that the game doesn't even so much as hint towards.

>>171323602
Shitty port
1080p doesn't even work outside of windowed mode

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>>171323230
there are some people that have this issue, i'm not the only one
Never had this problem before tho, definitely something wrong with the game

>>171323528
Play on easy. Normal just makes everything take longer.
Use a guide for the weapons.
You'll have to replay missions. Deal with it.
Long swords are generally great. Short swords and staves are terrible.
Never ever mute the audio or turn down the BGM.

>>171323776
>Play on easy. Normal just makes everything take longer.
I agree with this but there are some weapons you can only get on normal, so bump it up for those missions.

>>171323671
why is circle around angelus?

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2B9S
O T P
T
P

PC friends, how is the game holding up?

>Daily thread reminder!
>2B9S
Both are 5'2. Heels on 2B make her 5'5.
She is 330 pounds and he is 286 pounds.

>Commander
5'7. Without heels 5'4.
She weighs 368 pounds

>6O/21O
Both are 5'5. Without heels 5'2
They weigh 320 pounds.

>>171324690
Game should've stayed a PS4 exclusive.
PCdrones are tainting Taro's name and sooner or later piratefags will put the final nail on his career.

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>>171324690
Great desu. Have to stop playing because of work, but I'll get to it when I'm done

>>171324690
Steam poorfags deserve the shit port.

>>171324864
And here come the pirates shitting up the general. As expected with PC releases.

After the Goliath fight in the city, I get shown an NPC marker over the destroyed Engels, but no matter how much I run around it there's no one there.

is it a bug, is the NPC hidden or below ?

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Am i the only one playing Automata with original VA?
KONO MAMA JYA DAME

>>171325104
No, JP voice is pretty good.

>>171325075
it is the Engels. just wait, it'll activate later. it bugged me too.

>>171325104
No, you aren't.

>>171325060
It's the same guy from last thread who was screaming about bravely default

>>171325060
Ignore that samefaggot.

>>171325104
Jouji Nakata is in this game, you couldn't pay me to play it in English.

>>171324864
I asked you how the game is holding up, friendo. I've already played the game to completion twice on console. I love it!
Perhaps our tastes just differ, friend.

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>>171324218
She's stuck to the floor at the beginning of the game with that seal around her. All banged up. Caim gives his opinion.

>>171324690
Lots of shitposting about it, as you can see. It's not a great port - I changed all my settings as I wanted (fullscreen 1440p bla bla) and was met with a nice huge black border around the entire title screen. Reminds me of the FFX days. Wait for a patch/a fan-patch/play it windowed.

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So when are we going to get the remaster collection now that Nier Automata sold very well?

>>171325370
Never
Not enough people will ask for it and everyone would hate it

>>171325370
Nowe shouldn't be in that picture.

>on route C playing as 9S
>die and have to load the game
>do this a few times
>roommate points out im not respawning anymore
>realize I'm not respawning cause the bunker is gone and now I have to reload my save instead

what the fuck am i immune to seeing the simplest shit

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>>171325187
>>171325202
I know I know. I just don't want the /ndg/ comfy to be tainted.

>>171325636
Just be glad that it's not as bad as /v/ right now.
Every thread turns to shit as soon as a PC version releases no matter if it's good or bad

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>>171325435
Calm down, Taro.

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So did they end up destroying themselves?

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>>171325787
today feels a lot more natural than a Taro game being a unanimous masterpiece and critical darling like the last few weeks

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>Get to level 99.
>Suddenly TruckEmil is a joke, even on hard.

Goddamnit.
He sounded so sad when I beat him.
Excited to fight him again, his heads where the final weapon I needed.

>>171325506
>>171325712
Come on, Drakengard 2 can't be that bad, right?

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>>171325896
They will be back and bully A2 some more laughing that she's still alive and not with her lover and friends.

>>171325636
>>171325787
Yup, PC releases ruin every community. It happened with Dark Souls, and it's going to happen with Automata.

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>game appears surrounded by a black border in-game
>FRAPs can screenshot it fine
Why.

>>171325636
It'll pass. Taro fans are used to suffering. If I can't get this running well, I'll just have to Plat the PS4 version while a patch (probably fan-made) rolls out.

>>171326021
Drakengard 2 is just dull. It's just a dull fucking game. Watch Clemps review or read DarkId's playthrough and be done with it.

>>171325882
It hasn't changed too much here, but until today Automata threads on /v/ were actually pretty civil and nice (by /v/ standards)

That went straight down the shitter with the PC release

I hope our comfy general doesn't go down that road

>>171325882
It's literally only a matter of time.

Any consequence to dismantling all the machines in the machine village?

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Why does everyone hate my game, Manah? Why do they hate me? I'm lovable, right?

>>171326406
>>171326407
It's going to go up in flames like /jrpgg/ did since it's only a matter of time until some super autists gets his intelligence insulted and spams garbage for a year straight. Accept it and enjoy the good times.

>>171326518
Why don't you try and find out?

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So, Can i run nier at a "playable" rate? i heard the port is bad
>Radeon HD 7850 2gb
>i5 3470
>8gb ram

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>mfw the end of the Gathering Keepsakes sidequest

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Is this the ultimate casual filter?

what's the point of the pre-order skins if the game is single player? you can't show them off to anyone, right?

>>171325370
I want a Drakengard 1/2 remaster on the Vita.
With Drakengard 2 being rewritten by Taro while keeping some of the key elements like Caim becoming an antagonist.

>>171326761
Good luck running it at all.

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>>171326886
>two friends got it today
>neither died in the prologue
Disappointed desu.

>>171326904
What's the point in costumes in games like DMC

>>171326761
It's not horrible, but you'll need to play in windowed mode.

>>171326904
Eh? Because it's cute?

>>171326761
Runs great for me, FX 8320 5ghz, 1060 3gb 12 gb ram

>>171325968
A2 is cute and has nice cute tits

>>171327241
Yeah, but your GPU is way better than mine

>>171327193
maybe i'll wait for someone to find a way to improve performance issues

Running a 8320 and GTX 750ti with 8gb of RAM.

Do I have any hope of running Nier well? I have the PS4 version but was looking into possibly getting the PC version too.

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Current /v/ Nier threads make me sad. why the fuck do i even go there anymore

>>171327645
I have GTX770. I can make it run 60fps if I cut down all the few graphics candies the settings have and setting the resolution to 900p.

At which point ps4 seems more ideal.

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>>171327892
To suffer. Vee is cancer.

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>>171327645
I found this on the reviews, you probably can

>>171327892
We're here for you friend.

Well, at least until these threads start getting worse and worse.

>>171328016
>670
>That Witcher 3 performance
I doubt it.

>>171328016
MGSV
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 (2GB) or better

Nier: Automata
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 VRAM 2GB or AMD Radeon R9 270X VRAM 2GB

Keep waiting

>>171326904
Because I want Toobers to have a dumb valve sticking out the back of her head alongside a Weiss pod.

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>>171327892
I don't want the comfyness of these threads to end

>>171328123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NTwT2eNPZ4

>>171328230
Suffer. We all will. Just like Taro wants us to.

>>171328230
>18 endings remain

Should've stayed console exclusive

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Time to shit up /ndg/
Who is best waifu and why is it not yours?

>>171327892
I was staying off of /v/ to avoid spoilers, but I feel so much happier now I think I just won't go back.

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>>171328726
I like father nier

>>171328726
Angel is best girl.
2B is best waifu.
Emil is best gayfu.
Papa Nier is best husbando.
Zero is best casual fuck.
Nowe is a faggot who needs to die.

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How to hide my mouse cursor when using a controller playing Nier Automata on PC with Borderless Gaming? Using the hide mouse cursor options for the game and what not doesn't work and win+scroll lock doesn't work when manually hiding cursor so it's a pain to undo, and my mouse cursor basically flutters in the center of the screen otherwise.

Is there any solution other than Borderless Gaming like target line?

Alternatively can I get some ideal keyboard remappings so I can just use m+kb? I really can't make sense of this keyboard inputs menu, don't know where to start.

>>171326315
>Why.
I don't know but you can use SRWE to fix things like that I think?

>>171328042
If you visit one of the /v/ threads then even the infighting that happens in generals will feel like a breeze. Though most of them seem to just be talking about how they hate 9S

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>>171326761
Game is currently paused, using Borderless Gaming to force 1080p fullscreen. Looks a lot better than the PS4 version, seems to have a lot more colour and of course the resolution is higher.

Unfortunately, the game stutters whenever I look out onto a wide out door area (i.e. I get stutter after 9S flies away) but inside the factory it plays beautifully. Playing 1440p in windowed mode is ugly and choppy as hell, but I don't think it would run good enough for average play anyway. I would even argue that currently my PS4 plays the game more smoothly, which isn't great news.

i7 3820 @ 3.60GHz
16GB RAM
GTX 1070

Obviously my specs should be enough to play this in 4K if I wanted, but unfortunately, that's not the case. Definitely needs a performance patch, as well as a resolution patch.

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>>171328726
A2 is my waifu!

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>Tfw I just did Emil's Determination.
>Mfw he mentions Kaine.

I wish Emil would stop making me cry.

>>171323602
>oh wow a crazy game!
>m-m-my feelings! my waifu!

>>171329009
this desu senpai

>PC versions comes out and everyone complains about the tutorial being too hard
DEJA VU

>>171329208
wow, that's awful

>>171326886
What if I did it intentionally for the letter?

2butt

9shorts

Ass

>>171329689
Ass2

>>171328459
Which ending do you think we'll make it to?

>>171322693
Was manah a sloot in the second game?

In Nier, those dancing ghosts are what the Shades should have been, right?

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>>171329951
She /ss/'d

>>171322693
>play automata without playing the first game
>see emil scooting around in his truck for the first time
>instantly infatuated
So... Do you think there'll be a Nier remaster?

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I tried to keep it subtle but my monitor isn't the best so let me know if something is wrong with the color.

https://www.mediafire.com/?290jop48x8gd1k1

Basically removed piss filter from the city area and added blue to the sky. Plus SMAA and sharpening a bit.

>>171330114
no, i don't think it needs one that bad

>>171330173
It's shit.

>>171330335
rude

>>171326524
Because your game is shit.

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>>171329506
Hmm, actually let me test the FPS. It definitely feels a little stuttery, but let me double check with FRAPs. Otherwise, this seems to look like the PS4 Pro version - I don't remember seeing lens flare on the PS3 version, and thank the Watchers, we finally have some AA. It's also working fine with vsync at 60 FPS which is excellent.

All in all, it's not terrible. Tales of Zestiria was a thousand times worse, and Tales of Berseria had a fucking AI bug which buggered enemies up. Compared to most Japanese releases, this is passable. Hopefully Durante takes an interest and fixes it.

>>171330173
OwO what's this?

So YoRHa all across Earth ended up exterminated? It seems like such a waste of advanced technology and manpower. Where do the androids behind it even plan to go from there?

>>171330470
>PS3
*PS4

>>171330470
the real reason anyone should wait for a PC release.

mods.

now we wait for the wet tshirt, the bondage gear and the full nude mods

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>>171330173
>PC friends already modding the game
You are not so bad after all

Extract commander model already

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What is wrong with these textures?

Also, what are the odds that they'll patch the fullscreen issues promptly? I'd just use a third party program to unfuck it, but it irks me on a principle level to have to do that when it should be the company's responsibility to fix their fucking game.

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>>171329471
It's pretty funny desu

>>171330173
what is that on the top right of the screen

does sweetfx works with it?

>>171331053
You're playing a B-game, not a AAA game.
Don't expect a low-budget title to match anything cutting edge in the industry.

>>171331053
>those shadows

This looks like it'll need its own version of DSFix for the first Dark Souls port, holy fuck. NAFix when?

>>171331053
Stop looking at the ground and don't expect the best looking game from a low budget platinum game that has to be open world

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>>171331053
can a console player take a screenshot of that place to compare?

it might just be debris texture

>>171331183
look at this hips and tell me they are not triple A

>>171331053
I knew PC friends will notice graphics first. Yes, textures are not so great. Maybe in the future it could be modded.

>>171331416
It's not a bug or a problem with the game. Some textures are like that. We PS4 players don't care that much about this things senpai

>>171328726

Arioch

>>171331331
>stop looking where you're going and stare into the sky instead

I wasn't outright fishing for bad texture work right off the bat or anything, it just caught my eye with how jarring it is.

Read the filename, this is literally the first place they tell you to go after the tutorial fight and it's physically impossible to not notice how awful the textures are unless you lost your glasses.

This isn't like /v/irgins clipping out of bounds in Dark Souls 3 and complaining about flat textures on some out-of-the-way rooftop you're not meant to look at.

Besides, even B-games should be held to some standards. Or not cost 60 dollars.

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>>171331127
reshade is sweetfx's natural evolution, this preset I uploaded has almost everything sweetfx had to offer and far more.

>>171330576
Besides the playable characters, there are a few stragglers, like 4S, the drug addict in the desert, and the one at the oasis

But for the most part yes, YoRHa is completely gone

The original plan was to make YoRHa 2: Electric Boogaloo on Earth using combat data from the old YoRHa units to make a new, more advanced generation, but if Jackass actually spreads that Tower info around and makes the truth behind YoRHa common knowledge, it would hinder that plan pretty hard, so the moondroids that came up with it all might be up shit creek now

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>>171330759
>mods
Doubt it. If anything, new costumes and nude models will just replace already existing models. Unless a mod kit gets released, we can't add anything ourselves. MGR was barely modded.

>>171331053
Bad UV mapping - notice how on some rocks the texture is fine, then on others it's stretched. It's a way to save performance, because no one is going to look and check every single rock mesh.

Started automata on hard and everything either one or two-shots me, is this normal?

Getting a white screen of death on an AMD 480. Anyone having the same problem? Find a fix for it?

>Hymir's Finger has traveled across dimensions and existed for thousands of years
>it's covered in ages worth of rust and blood
>original name completely forgotten
This is that good shit.

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Do these fucking things do anything?

Start it on normal and switch to hard after you finish the whole factory prologue sequence

>>171331924
Just sell them.

>>171331819
>no one is going to look and check every single rock mesh.
They could've at least had the primary intended path for the player not look ugly, and keep the blurry textures off to the side.

>>171326886
i am constantly seeing a sea of dead player bodies, this is baffling

>>171331924
I doubt it, I saved them all till the very end and they were never used. They're a damn good way to make money, though.

>>171331850
Just dash with R2. And yes, the tutorial is like that.
>>171331868
When does this happen?

>>171331850
Early on it is, but you become OP pretty fast with chips and leveling up.
Also use item, you'll drown in them

>>171331924
vendor trash

>>171332035
I'd bet money that they're all starting the game on hard or very hard and bashing their heads against the wall and too prideful to turn it down to normal for the prologue because muh elite PC master race pro player

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>>171332035
>>171332201

>>171331850
I would recommend playing through the prologue on normal and switching to hard after. Replaying the same 6 minute shmup segment every time you die is more frustrating than challenging.

>>171331924
They sell for more in Route C. Unless you need the cash, save them to sell until then. Their only purpose is to be sold.

Do I lose anything in-game if I play the tutorial on easy? Other than my pride, of course.

As in, will it lock me out of any content, etc?

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Ignore what I said earlier, game is apparently at 60fps all the time. Must just be micro-stutter?

>>171331924
I keep a stack of 15, just in case. Sell the rest though, easy money.

>>171331986
They could've, but the Japanese don't give a shit about graphics.

>>171331850
Yes. Honestly, there's a fair bit of struggle on Normal. I died quite a few times, although it was mostly during Ending C where shit got a lot harder (or I suddenly became underleveled). I played it blind though, so maybe there's some crazy chip strategy I don't know about.

>>171331416
They are nice precisely because it's not AAA game.

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>Finish everything.
>Don't know what else to do other then sit by the jukebox and listen to Song of the Ancients from the original Nier.
help

>>171332201
I did that for 2 hours before finally caving and switching to normal.
I then beat Engels without taking a hit.
I was kind of fucking annoyed by that, but the rest of the game was fine on Hard so whatever.

>>171332260
>I play, I rule.
PC players are wild.

>>171332406
No, but easy literally plays itself, you only need to press into the direction you want to go and the game dodges, attacks, shoots and uses skills all by itself. At least play on normal to get a feel for the combat.

>>171332406
Nope, there's no content locked behind difficulty.

>>171332548
Time for you to start playing Nier 1 or Drakengard.

>>171332548
It's time to let it all go, anon. There's someone out there RIGHT NOW who needs your help.

>>171332642
>start playing Nier 1 or Drakengard
From the way people talk about their gameplay, I'd think reading a novel version with the soundtrack in the background would be more enjoyable.

>>171332201
>>171332260
do they know what EVADE is?
And it's so fucking generous, you can evade through anything infinitely

>>171332608
>asy literally plays itself, you only need to press into the direction you want to go and the game dodges, attacks, shoots and uses skills all by itself
Ahaha what

Alright, guess I'm playing on Normal

>>171332608
didn't bayonetta also have a one-handed mode for players that just want to fap to the cute girl

>>171332642
I played Nier, I'm not one of these filthy people that start a series on the second game.
That said, I haven't played Drakengard but I've done a shitload of wikidiving regarding it and the second.
I've been avoiding information about the third since I cannot decide if I should get it. I see mixed things from fans of the series. Not outright "Skip this shit" like D2, but still shakey.

>>171332730
Soon.
Very soon.

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Right, I'm actually going to play the game now.

>>171332586
People need to understand that PC players are playing a Taro Yoko game for the first time. A lot of these people have never played Nier or Drakengard, and have no idea what to expect. How do you think they are going to react to the fucking hacking minigame, kek?

>>171332548
I say it's time for murder.

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>have an eight core Xeon E5-2687W
>run Windows 10 virtual machine with six vCPU cores, 16GB of vRAM, 60GB vDisk on an R400 NVMe SSD, and a GTX 1070 in PCIe pass-through mode
>install game in a Samsung 960 EVO 1TB NVMe iSCSI drive connected to VM server from a NAS via a 10GbE SFP+ connection
>AuTomato runs like shit in any resolution
>migrate VM to a light server with an i3-4370 (all four vCPU dedicated to VM), R9 Nano in pass-through, Extreme Pro SATA SSD, and 16GB of vRAM
>load game from iSCSI drive
>AuTomato still runs like shit
At least the levels load faster than the PS4...

>>171332770
I think they're great games.
Gameplay may not be top-notch, but the voice acting and story makes it all worth it. Being able to play as Caim in the Drakengard was a treat and Nier 1 has some of the most memorable shit ever.

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>>171321539
>>171321574
>>171321713
>>171322426
>>171322484
OK I take back what I said, LOL

ETA for PC fix? It's the weekend so I'm sure everyone has packed it in already. God damn this was the biggest let down.

>>171332960
>load faster
There's literally no loading time aside from when you're loading a save or hitting long cutscenes, the hell are you talking about?

>>171333054

what changed your mind?

>>171332409
>They could've, but the Japanese don't give a shit about graphics.

They clearly gave enough of a shit to add in graphics options, except even with those the game looks ugly and the resolution is literally broken. It'd be less silly to just give zero fucks and not include graphics options to begin with.

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logic virus infection suspected

>>171332831
It basically becomes a walking simulator with flashy combat cutscenes. Tried it once after finishing the game and felt disgusted "playing" that way.

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>>171333114
Um, that? I never see the complete loading screen because it loads too quickly. Texture pop ins are terrible, though.

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>>171333147
its spreading! shut down the network!

>>171332770
People exaggerate things regarding Nier's gameplay. It's nothing incredible, but it's not bad either. It's totally fine for the kind of game it is.
DoD1 on the other hand is pure hell in all of its facets, but that's kind of the entire appeal. Being a fun experience is not the reason for its cult following.

>>171333295
Why the fuck are you even seeing loading screens between levels? I can run from the camp to the factory to the forest to Emil's to the ass end of the desert without a single loading screen.

>>171332770
Honestly there may be a significant difference between the things possible in Automata and NieR but they play almost the same. All these sick combos you see in webms that are possible in Automata you don't really use since you're virtually never up against a singular enemy that you can actually juggle. 90% of the fights are you being swarmed and you end up hitting evade into a simple string that gives space into more evading, and the other 10% is against enemies that you can't juggle at all. In the first nier you did almost exactly that all the time, especially since your attacks are also evade cancellable. Though to be fair it was still simpler in the first nier since the best way to cream bosses for time achievements was to evade cancel the greatswords ground pound while stuffing double damage ups into your face.

>>171333505
Probably using the transporter or loading a save.

>>171331767
Looks a bit too saturated. the piss filter may have problems but it helps even out the tone and color.

>>171333505
There's loading screens when you warp between save points

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>>171333505
>Why the fuck are you even seeing loading screens between levels?
Because when I die I keep getting the game over screen and have to start from the very beginning of the prologue.

I think it's interesting that the game seems to have a read cap of about 400MB/s, making my network set-up more than overkill. I was hoping to take advantage of ~1GB/s read speeds over the network.

>>171333501
Pretty much this, Nier's gameplay is perfectly serviceable, it's nothing amazing but I had some fun playing it and it never felt offensively bad

But I'm someone who actually likes musou games and has spent hundreds of hours across different Warriors games, and holy fuck Drakengard 1 was cancer to play, there is no exaggeration when people say how miserable it is

>>171333556
It dates back to DoD1, actually. Best strategy for single combat was to bunny hop while spamming air attacks with your highest damage weapon, for multiple foes you just mashed out the shortest combo that ended in a finisher.

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is this bullying?

>>171331767
Honestly I really liked how every single area in the game had its own filter/lighting and I wouldn't want to use something to tweak it, but you do you

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Post yfw Pascal gives up pacifisim to protect his people

>>171333715
I ended up using the dash attack a lot for groups but yeah that might have been faster. I liked putting the camera above Caim and watching the air swoosh around him.

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>>171332936
The final ending makes Drakengard 3 worth the time, make sure you also get all the prologue DLCs. You should also give the other games a chance if you like the Drakengardverse enough. The second isn't as bad as many have made it out to be, it's just mediocre.

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>>171333914
>yfw he pays for his aggression
>dearly

>>171333914
Pascal was amazing during that whole sequence, stupid baby robots were stupid.

>>171333647
I have been, that was the first screenshot I took.

>>171333846
It'll be possible to enhance all of them in a go.

>>171333914
I thought he would do absolutely nothing but that nigga ran out their like a battledroid from BF2 and started wrist lasering dudes, then fired a giant laser from his chest and killed everybody.

>>171332960
>all that
Sounds like filthy machine-speak to me.

>>171333147
>>171333409
I saw one recently where 9S kept jumping off the pipe just before the desert complex. Silly androids.

>>171333815
DELETE THIS.
FIGHT WITH HONOR

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>>171333914
I will smash them and kill them!

>>171326580
Looks like they just respawn and it affects nothing.

>>171334009
What does this expression mean?

>>171333923
Dash attack was the best opener to any fight, yeah. But it wasn't so good as to merit running away and back in.

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>>171334272
>that bit afterwards where Pascals Xenoblades the fuck outta Engels

>>171334286
Caim would be ashamed of you. Be a completionist!

>>171334348
He's out for blood.

>>171333815
/fgg/ would be proud

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>>171334348
Murder.

Load up the fight of Pascal vs Engels and let Pascal die

You won't regret it. Amazing scene.

>>171333815
>What looks like the Type 40 large sword
>Level 64
>Not finishing the Father Servo quest on your first A playthrough

Sidequests don't reset on Route B? This is going to be a very fast playthrough...

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>>171334602
>tfw no DLC boss rush versus Zero, Nier with Weiss, that hateful little forgotten nigga, and Caim with Angelus

>>171332086
Pretty much right when I take over 2b at the start of the game. Happened twice so far

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>>171333914
>hyped as fuck when he brings out giga nigga robot
>realize the children where probably killed
>mfw mass suicide

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>>171333950
Why didn't we get this as the final boss.
The final boss for Automata is just so underwhelming when you think about it.

I DON'T WANNA DO IT ANONS I DON'T WANNA DO IT

do I really have to kill Pascal?

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anyone where to find 2b webms?

everyone is talking about the actual game so I can't find them

Welp, good thing the general exists. Cause /v/ is just full of hate ever since the PC version is out and people complaining that they can't beat the prolouge

>>171334965

Let's be honest, if gameplay in D3 was as good as Automata, we'd all be saying Automata was nowhere near as good.

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>>171334806
You're missing someone ;^)

Has anyone ever translated the Watchers' language? I'm sure I read somewhere a few years ago that people were able to decipher the Black Scrawl. I'd love to know what it says here.

>>171334965
To be fair, Nier as a series has more normal bosses. Drakengard is the one that actively trolls the player with its end-game boss. Just make sure you give your thanks to murder hobo every night and maybe Taro will drop Drakengard 4 down the chimney one Christmas.

>>171334965
Considering the TRUE final boss is real world actual humanity and how us actually achieving Ending E's real goal, while not impossible, is so fucking infeasible as to be impossible. I'd personally say its one of the better ones in the recent years.

>>171335238
>AYY LM AOFAM U

>>171335238

I still think considering this is a Platinum game, these bosses suck ass and are worse than Nier 1's in every way.

>>171335238
>Black Scrawl

The hearsay I remember is that it was ACGT or whatever the genetic nucleotide markers are.

>>171334809
i was thinking in how we would cut to a scene of A2 trying to intercept stragglers

instead she literally sat on her butt and watched pascal swat flying tanks

>>171335429
Everything other than certain Adam/Eve fights were pretty weak.

>>171335104
You erase his memory then go to village as 9S and check his shop. Also buy machine arms from him because that shit is a pain in the ass to get.

>>171335459
Yeah, that's what I read. I find it interesting that Pod was able to read it, although I guess that's just leftover data from the old world.

>>171335429
The final boss where you switch perspectives between A2 and 9S was absolutely fucking amazing.

>>171335104
No. You can walk away but he'll kill himself or you can take the objectively morally worst option and he'll be memory wiped. Memory wipe will make him open a shop where he'll sell you the body parts of his villagers for extraordinarily cheap that can be sold for exorbitant prices to Emil. It also includesthe literal and technically still beating heart of a child. Enjoy.

>>171335429
I enjoyed Simone, So-shi, Eve, and Ro-shi/Ko-shi quite a bit and especially compared to anything in Nier 1.

>>171335104
You can just leave.

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Does anyone else find it depressing how many people are backing up their saves or outright refusing to sacrifice their data? Especially the people who say how amazing the ending is and how it made them tear up.

It's like a bunch of idiots clapping and laughing their asses off at a comedian who is just straight up insulting them. Zero self-awareness or thought.

>>171335228
Drakengard 3 was certainly a memorable experience but Automata's story and characters genuinely touched me more deeply and I think I'd still prefer it

The golem in facades temple and the lizard shade at the aerie were way better than almost every boss in automata except ro and ko and the adam+eve fights.

>>171335429
The switching battle was kind of cool, but other than that I agree.

Even Beauvoir is disappointing after the initial impact wears off.

>>171335916
>not mentioning Jack's rampage through the village
One of my favorite sequences in gaming.

>>171335916
literally nothing to those fights except aiming

hey everyone - should i be playing this with a controller on PC?

So I just tried out the pc version and the tutorial ran great, though I didn't have enough time to also check the open world area to see if I get frame drops like in the ps4 version.
I'm getting a lot of framedrops during cutscenes though, why would that be?

>>171335793
It's part of the transhumanism theme. The androids back their shit up too.

>>171335793
Its Taro's final message m8e. Those particular group of people are who he's currently giving the middle finger to but like you said most are too self-centered or unthinking to realize that.
I actually had a small roadtrip with a bud who had to have me explain E's implications because he just couldn't understand the concept of NOT backing up your data before hand. Just kept going "yeah but WHY do that? For what purpose? Who who'd ACTUALLY do that?" I wouldn't so why would anyone else?"

>>171336159
Yes.

>>171336189
The fmv cutscenes are 30fps locked

>>171336225
thanks!

>>171336189
Cutscenes don't throttle shit back.
Some that run a little long make me worry my basic ps4 will take off or attain sentience.
Think of it like Nioh and you hop into the blacksmith.

>>171335964

I'm not sure what Platinum even bring to the table in this case, honestly.

>>171335793
Am I allowed to back up my data after sacrificing it the first time?

>>171336441
playable and enjoyable gameplay + 60 fps

>>171336192
Literally the entire point is to sacrifice something for the sake of a total stranger. You aren't sacrificing anything by backing up your data.

You are patting yourself on the back as you assert your selfishness over all else.

>>171336534
You're allowed to do anything you want, anon, and you're ahead of people who didn't sacrifice anything, but it's still pretty weak.

I can't imagine a better way to end your time with the game than to bid that final farewell.

>>171336893

I didn't exactly hate playing Nier and Drakengard 3 (besidest he Dragon parts I guess), the 60fps is nice sure.

>>171336919
I already did it the first time on my Japanese copy. Don't really want to go through the game again on the Western copy since I need my debug mode to play around with.

>>171336534
Go for it but know that while your not as bad a person as those that didn't sacrifice at all you're still a bad person.

>>171336919
The androids don't sacrifice anything when they blow up their black boxes either.

>>171336919
That final title screen oddly gives a nice feeling of closure too

I didn't wipe my data the first time I saw E, but after I got the platinum and did a few more things like the Emil battles, I went back and replayed it and wiped my save as a final goodbye, am I ok

>>171335793
Took me about 15 seconds before I decided to straight-up sacrifice my data and become a hero.

https://www twitch tv/kylemccarley

2B and 9S voice actors are streaming themselves play.

>>171336919
>You are patting yourself on the back as you assert your selfishness over all else.
Not him but I'm not patting anyone on the back besides maybe the PC. I'm a selfish cunt and a hoarder, but I can still appreciate the beauty of what amounts to empty sacrifice for the sake of it. That doesn't mean I'm going to go along with it. It's like saying 'if you die to kill the final boss you need to delete your save'.
Yeah I'll go along with it the first time, but what do you mean 'bid that final farewell'? It's an exercise in pointlessness. It's not beautiful. It's not meaningful. It's an act of playing along, and that means it's whatever you want to do. Who says I'm ending my time with the game, after all?

>>171337121
That literally doesn't mean a single thing. You aren't roleplaying as an android. You are asserting your values as a human being.

>>171336205
Did he ever get it?

>>171337154
>>171337189
Good job, anons.

>>171337270
This. I'm not a freak slave to a game. I play, I rule.

>>171337257
English voice actors.

>>171337310

Why are you acting like your save deletion is actually helping people? Is this some kind of Meta-LARP I'm not aware of?

>>171337257
I'd rather have 21O stick her hand in my ass and pound my prostate with my fist while Commander jacks me off so I can cum into a cup being held by 6O while Devola and Popola poledance naked in front of me than watch that stream

>>171337257
I shouldn't have openend the link

>>171337441
Finish the game before posting, steam nigger.

>>171335238
>>171335638
The black scrawl was DNA, but as far as I remember most other examples were random keyboard smashing. I think automata might be the only other time they bothered to make it actually say something.

Its wouldn't be hard to translate yourself, just tedious. Its just english with a celestial font.

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>going up
It's getting better lads.

>>171337384
>I play, I rule
pc gaming everyone

>>171337384
What does that even mean though? You can appreciate a game without following through on everything about it. Don't forget that even if a game can be used as an artform to communicate values, it's fundamentally something for my own enjoyment. If I want to keep fucking playing because it's fun why should I stop? Just because I think Taro's story is beautiful doesn't mean I should make a completely fucking empty sacrifice. What exactly am I meant to be saving by deleting my second, third, and fourth saves? Myself?

>>171337310
>You are asserting your values as a human being.
To WHO?

>>171337610
As if the scores matter anyway

>>171333815
>tfw spent about 2 hours total fighting Father Servo, about 20-30 levels underlevel each step
Well, at least I learned my lesson for the PC version.

>>171337628
the question itself.

Does it delete your saves too?

>>171336919
2B and 9S don't lose jack when they blow themselves up, and even at the very end of the game, after all their hardships and bullshit they went through the pods manage to revive them and 042 didn't even sacrifice himself. This whole idea of backing up your save is lampshaded and practically summed up by 9S pod saying being alive is an embarrassment or something like that. The game is literally telling you if you don't struggle to surivive (e.g. backing your shit up so you don't lose it), then you're a baka, even if it makes you look dumb or is emarrassing.

>>171337916

*trophies, derp.

>>171337838
>the question itself
No, anon. You are not asserting your value as a human being to hardcoded text, this isn't even on the level of androids. You are comforting yourself, patting yourself on the back, jerking off your own ego. Now that's fine and I think that's kind of the point being made in the first place, but you're not truly making a sacrifice in the same sense, because you're not giving something up for the sake of someone else - you're giving something up so you can feel good about it and that is it. Nobody benefits from you deleting your data. Nobody benefits from you keeping your data. This choice affects you and you alone. You cannot assert this particular set of values to yourself.

>>171337270
>Not him but I'm not patting anyone on the back besides maybe the PC
PC as in computer or PC as in player character? Neither seems to make sense in this context.

>what do you mean 'bid that final farewell'?
There is nothing more final and conclusive than sacrificing your data. Otherwise, you're just leaving the door open.

>I'm a selfish cunt and a hoarder
I mean, at least you're honest? Still depressing, though.

>>171337628
>To WHO?
To yourself, and then to whoever you tell about it.

>>171338040
That shit's saved to PSN, it can't touch that

I got the plat before deleting my saves

>>171337838
Yeah, I'm not going to sacrifice my save outside the very first playthrough. I need my debug mode.

That, and I'm not sure if I can handle grinding +8 chips again.

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All those spoilers thread on /v/ holy fuck...

>>171337989
That only comes to fruition through the sacrifices of the players. They are able to have their happy ending because there are people in the world who will put the happiness of others over themselves.

>>171338361
Welcome to PC releases

>>171338068
>PC as in computer or PC as in player character?
Player Character. I play as the player character but I am not him.

>There is nothing more final and conclusive than sacrificing your data
WHY should I make something final and conclusive? Do you destroy your copy of a movie when you finish watching it? Do you burn your copy of LotR when you're done reading it? This sort of shit makes sense if you're 'closing the door', but there is literally no reason for me to be closing the door. I'm not even demonstrating my resolve because I'm literally not resolved to not play this game, it's fun and enjoyable and I don't feel the need to stop. I went alng with it one, for the kicks, but that's it.

>I mean, at least you're honest? Still depressing, though.
It isn't depressing at all. Being able to know what you want is the least depressing thing possible. Not know what you want and feeling eternally confused is the most depressing thing possible.

>>171338373
And when you sacrifice your save, whose happiness are you saving but your own? It's stoking your own ego.

>>171337257
liked kyle in previous streams, 2pure
kira tho, i should have expected this annoying personality from someone who goes by "rina-chan". jesus christ

>>171338305
>flipping Taro the bird so you can satiate your numbers autism
anonymous

>>171338054
>You are not asserting your value as a human being to hardcoded text
its literally the only thing that could ever check. even a completitionist cuck could go back to that point after doign everything and delete the save to give the answer the question itself requests. there is massage of ego either answer you take

>>171338361
Are you new? Why are you going to /v/ for a new game? Actually why aren't you playing it?

>>171338474
Not only that, Kira's just awful at the game.

>>171338543
>why aren't you playing it?
Are YOU new? No one plays games here.

>>171338474
She did a fantastic job as 2B in my opinion but I don't even want to learn anything more about her as a person

I hope the dlcs scale with your level or something because I don't really want to replay through the whole game a third time just to play them at the very specific level they intended them to be, I like this game but two 100% runs are enough for me

>>171338510
I like being overpowered.

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>All these people who didn't become a hero
Stick to dark souls or something.

>>171338543
I already did anon, I just browse /v/ to laugh.....

>>171335793
This mentality sort of only applies to the first game. In this one it's literally encouraged by the entire game to backup your data, even in the final ending everyone survives and even 042 "sacrifice" wasn't exactly real since he survived. The lampshading (which also hinges on self-deprecation, which we all know taro is known for) and transhumanistic themes about you being you even if you're totally a copy and blahblah practically went over your head.

Although I will gladly give you that people who act like haughty shit for learning how to cloud save should be gassed.

so now with the pc version released, how long until someone rips the different music layers?

>>171338812
>In this one it's literally encouraged by the entire game to backup your data, even in the final ending everyone survives and even 042 "sacrifice" wasn't exactly real since he survived
They also suffer for another 500 years before getting their shit fucked up by machines.

>>171338748
Just let me upgrade my weapons/pods and i will, senpai !

>>171336441
They made the game.

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>>171338748
Are you saying I'm a bad person if I don't sacrifice my game after every A-E playthrough?

Pl-Please no.

>>171338373
I'm actually pretty convinced you giving up your save data does nothing considering when you do get help during the final battle and you take a hit it says something like ("character name" memory was destroyed) but the game would have deleted their shit before actually the sending help to you, it's not like they get their data back if you complete the rest of the stage without getting hit.

How the FUCK do I get Emil to change places and or wares? I've tried everything in all routes and he just stays at the desert entrance all the time.

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>>171336893
>nier was really fun to play
>automata can't maintain a stable framerate

>>171322693
>have beated games in the most harder difficulty in the last 20 years
>died in the tutorial
Should i just go to sleep and play tomorrow?
Keyboard+mouse or controller?

>>171338628
yeah, i can tolerate bad play if the person playing is tolerable, i mean she cant figure out the aiming while hacking

>>171338675
oh i agree, I think she did great as 2B and think this is one of the best eng dubs i've heard, much like the first nier. i do understand the complaints people have pointed out, but I put that more on the director for the voice actors rather than the VAs themselves, they're just easy scapegoats.

>>171338518
>its literally the only thing that could ever check
No anon. Your value as a human being is not something you just 'assert'. Your value and values as a human being are something you decide on your own. The question is literally just asking if you're going to go along with it but either way it does NOT match the original sacrifice in-game. In the game you have andriods sacrificing themselves for the sake of others, an act of pure heroism. You sacrifice your data for the sake of your own ego and satisfaction, which while not evil is certainly not heroic.

>>171338748
You don't fucking become a hero by destroying your save that's the problem. You save nothing by destroying that save. You protect nothing by destroying that save. All you do is get to say "LOOK I'M A HERO" while saving nothing but your own pride, which is decidedly not heroic.

>>171339342
Go to an A2 chapter, talk to him at least once whereever he is and after that it's RNG so transport around and wait for him to drive around the resistance camp

>>171322813
rip

>>171339452
>You protect nothing by destroying that save.
Did you actually play the game?

>>171339452
>In the game you have andriods sacrificing themselves for the sake of others, an act of pure heroism. You sacrifice your data for the sake of your own ego and satisfaction, which while not evil is certainly not heroic.
Why do you keep bringing up the androids? They have nothing to do with it. You aren't supposed to be imitating them.

>I am literally incapable of understanding why anyone would give up their data as a symbolic act of gratitude
Nice projection, senpai.

>>171339321
The system let's you delete your save data so your message and "ship" can help other players in the future. No delete = no message for others. Whether or not they actually delete that message if a player gets hit is not really clear, although it's more likely that they keep the messages and just wanted the player to know that one other player sacrificed his save so that you can beat the boss.

>>171339342
my method is first getting him on his route through the city center area, then going to the near factory save point and waiting for him to roll by, buy the cheapest thing he has, then teleport back and forth between near factory and resistance camp until he moves.
sometimes he can be stubborn though, and twice it was due to me skipping around in chapter select and not properly unlocking the inventory, you need an email from him with a subject line "wayyyy bored"

>>171339471
Been doing that for the last 40 minutes and he still won't move.

All I know is that if you gave up your data before getting plat then you got cucked.
If you bought tropies just to get plat in order to give up your data then you're like some sort of ultra cuck.

>>171339413
Controller.

>>171339937
desu i dont get why the option to buy trophies are in the game, since the whole point in them is the satisfaction in earning them. and none of the trophies are even hard to get

>saving is entirely plausible in the context of the game world]
>woman tells you three times in a single conversation that "there is no autosave nigga"
>options to fix motion sickness
>there is a dialogue option specifically for people complaining the game is too hard
>HUD options are default features you can choose to remove for the sake of space for combat features
>you can literally do the in-game equivalent of deleting system32
>the mysterious nature of the self-destruct option
>fishing with robots because why not

I fucking love this game already, it's just full of amazing ideas.

>>171339342
Talk to him once, go rob his house, then talk to him again.

>>171339308
Once for each other person's save data you lost during your runs off the credits. It's the only way.

>>171339937
I had to buy the "have your body collected" trophy, cause that could take forever

>>171340378
? I believe the trophy is just collecting 100 other bodies, praying and retrieving, i got it near the end of route A since i kept picking them up for money

>>171340378
Can't you collect your own body?

>>171340194
I feel like it was just an example of Taro going "Here's a weird thing I could do that's never been done before" and they did it because why not

>>171340345
Stop guilt-tripping me pls

>>171340194
It's a statement about the meaninglessness of trophies, plus it's just a clever idea.

I won't be buying any trophies, but I still think it's funny.

>>171339659
Tell me what you protect by destroying that save anon. And by destroying I mean 'not backing up'. Because while I did refuse to backup the first time because wow that was really a well done thing, I don't want to do it every time I finish an A-E playthrough.
Yes, it's beautiful the first time around but it seems to me exceedingly stupid, and I think the characters would agree, to 'die' in order to save someone when you can instead 'die' then 'resurrect' in order to save someone.

>>171339725
>Why do you keep bringing up the androids? They have nothing to do with it. You aren't supposed to be imitating them.
Then explain to me who I'm supposed to be imitating, because without even that sacrifice to model it off, it becomes well and truly meaningless, without even symbolic meaning.

Where are the butts?

I bought the trophy for upgrading all pods to max, farming for gadgets was the one thing I didn't care to do

Got all the others legit

>>171340194
>the whole point in them is the satisfaction in earning them
I think it's a swipe at cheevofags

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf-GY3ezkHU
>Even if it's pointless, you still have to do it!

>>171340720
>symbolic gesture to show gratitude to the players who gave something up so you could succeed and the characters could be happy
>symbolic gesture to show the incredibly cynical creator that there is good in the world
>well and truly meaningless
If you want to be selfish, then whatever, that's your call, but stop projecting your selfish worldview on everyone else.

>>171340887
>>171340716
true i forgot there are those people that obsess over trophies/achievements

>>171341210
You're the one projecting onto everyone else, you're the guy who went all 'hurr you need to sacrifice yourself', especially when it's not even "selfish" because the whole point of the backup is that you can save others WITHOUT sacrifice. If you can save others without sacrifice why would you purposely force a sacrifice?

>>171341241
he will complete the game and fucking kill himself

we should probably tell the cops

>>171341441
You sacrifice ending E you dummy. If you reload your backup ending E didn't happen.

>>171341241
I'm glad that it had a positive effect on that person, and it's fine to proclaim that to the world, but it rustles my jimmies that they claim that's what the game is about.

Cant use my ds4 on pc version, the resolution is fucked and it looks like shit.
Guess I refund it and get it on ps4?

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>>171341149
>Was wondering how my boy Emil wasn't much more miserable during Automata.
>Guess maybe he's just over it. It all happened so long ago.
>That boss fight.
First time I've ever cried DURING a boss.

I'm broke as hell but I want buy this so bad.
Fuck.