/wfg/ - Warframe General

Pet
Vacuum
WHEN

2nd for sybaris prime

3rd for mesa prime

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Nth for gott confirmed the javlok is actually gud!

>>171214698
Only for the charger pet, it will use its tentacles to pick up your loot

Here is a better question. When can Mag get her passive replaced with an automatic vacuum

>Tell Space Mommy we killed one of the queens
>She doesn't even inquire about the other one
>Because she already knows about Worm
>Knows that she's technically a child and we all know how Lotus is with children

>>171215023
>Javlok is good

>>171215332
>not reading the previous thread

>>171215239
What happens when worm grows up?

>>171215459
Like the childlover she is, Lotus will stop caring about Worm when she comes of age so we'll get a Kuva Assassination node involving an adult Worm.

>>171215405
I read it, paper dps means nothing anon
also, it's worthless to try to compare the javlok to stuff like the some p, when we now have much better weapons

>>171215690
Gott here, why did anon bring up the soma and constantly go back to it anyway? It was never the best, and is middling at best now.

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Is DE released a new ship exclusively for $100 only for a limited time, with the support being it unlocks all friendship doors on the current map, would you buy it?

>>171215405
I was memed on the Javlok when it first came out, unless there was some major change I don't believe you.

>>171215829
What primaries show up the Soma Prime, unless you mean secondaries, those are godlike.

>>171216089
There are lots, but all I should have to say is: Kohm.

>>171215929
lel no
I don't run pubs outside of raids anyway

>>171216159
Wouldn't that require me to bleed myself dry for a riven?

>>171215929
Nah, I go solo when I want true Fast, unburdened by the slow that is inherent in pubs

>>171216089
>Tonkor
>Zarr
>Kohm
>Memeulor
>Tigris
>Hek

That's just the immediate ones that come to mind

>>171216232
depends
if you already have a very good riven for javlok, maybe
if not, no

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>>171216259
>3/6 are shotguns
What a time to be alive

>>171216089
Dex Sybaris with two good stats on Riven (damage, multishot, crit, crit chance)

>>171216232
No. A riven-less Kohm still hits 12.5mil peak DPS and 10th-of-a-second TTKs.

You heard me, not 12.5k.
Not 125k.
12.5 mil.

It's due to how it operates. Scott designed it in such a way that the complete shitters on the nerf team will never understand how it works and thus never actually properly nerf it.

>>171216362
>>171216471
>Rivens
My plat can't take much more of this.
>>171216528
Sounds cool to me, guess I'll start messing around with it.

Change you want to see:

>all gold rarity acolyte mods no longer require scope-in to be active

>>171216528
Your comment made me realise how much I need a good unf reaction image for the kohm

>>171216528
What the fuck? Redpill me on the Kohm, I thought it only doubled firerate on every shot, does it also increase pellets per shot?

Operators in relays when?

DONT FORGET TO GET YOUR MEME COLORS

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>>171216770

>>171216704
To get you moving in the right direction:
>the ARSE stats are per-pellet
>as it ramps up it also ramps multishot in powers of 2 so it goes 1 -> 2 -> 4 -> 8 -> 12 pellets per shot and then stays there
>this is BEFORE multishot mods which benefit as expected
>that each individual pellet damages, crits, and procs individually
I'll leave the rest up to your imagination and testing.

While we're talking about it, does Kohm have innate punchthrough?

What about Khomak/Akhomak

>>171216803
See:
>>171217004

>>171217046
Yes, 2m on the first shot, and infinite from the second forward. This is for all pellets except the first one.

Which would you rather have

>The current slow releases of new prime frames and weapons
or
>Re-releases of old prime frames with prime new weapons

>>171217046
From the wiki:
>Innate 1 meter Punch Through
>Additional pellets have infinite punch through, firing through doors, terrain, walls and infinite bodies. This is most likely a bug. However, the fall off damage counters this resulting in almost unnoticeable effects.
Is this the weapon time forgot?

>>171217004
Alright, gotta build it first.
Heard rivens for it are in high demand, hope it's not as bad as Tigris prices.

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>shamrock now available on the market

begorrah remember the famine you filthy neamh-irish goys

>>171217245
They're about 400p for a "meh" one because DE was dumb enough to literally put the single best weapon in the game in the "strong riven" tier.

>>171217172
How about DE stops jewing us and lstops using the fucking vault now that they aren't limited by the number of gamemodes they can stuff into the void.

>>171217306
>Joking about potato famine
It could still happen

>>171217364
I think I'll just use it as is, this sounds like it's gonna take a major nerf from DE. Nice things always do.

>>171217231
The wiki is wrong.
The falloff caps at 25% at 50m.

>>171217574
They've "nerfed" it twice and literally made it better both times.

You don't even need a Riven for 100% status meme on Kohm

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>ayatan
>ayatan
>ayatan
>ayatan
>orokin reactor
>credit booster

JUST

>>171217769
Nope. Hell, since the procs are individual you don't even need 100%.

>>171216408
it's like 3.5 with the zarr

>>171218083
I must build that like a tard because it performs badly even in akkad.

>finally rolled my tonkor riven to give me 110% crit chance on every shot
>vital sense and hammer shot give 7X crit multiplier
>firing 3 grenades per shot so the red crits come fairly often even with only 10% chance
>need to put another two formas into it so it can take Pathogen Rounds and Stormbringer
>-20% reload speed

Hoo boy did I get lucky with this

>>171217884
Kohm behaves differently from other shotguns in respect to status procs? I thought it behaved differently from crit which is definitely calced per pellet and not per volley.

>>171216259
>burstonP (with god-tier timing or macro)
>hema (same)
>prisma grakata
>ferrox
>javlok (based on the last thread)
>lanka
There are more, but these are the ones off of the top of my head to add to his list.

>>171218353
Yes, each pellet is a completely unique "shot" given how it operates.

>>171218149
i keep seing people put vital sense and point strike, but 15% crit hardly seems worth it. I just put 3 90% elementals and primed cryo, and it works pretty good for carpet bombing akkad from a dashwire.

>>171218386
>Burston Prime
>Good
>ever
Post build, I want to see some numbers.

>>171219212
>being this new
It's a status gun. You build it for status.

>>171219212
not that anon, but the syndicate mod gives it a solid proc and makes the three shots in a burst basically instantaneous. my only complaint is a relatively small magazine once the burst is taken into account, and that's having not potatoed or forma'd mine. not hard to believe that actually putting some work into it would give it some stopping power.

Is a 198% multishot 133% flight speed Kohm riven worth 300p.

>>171219831
Flight speed does nothing since it's hitscan.

That said, it's for the kohm so probably. Try and roll fire rate or damage to go with the multishot.

The end of the last thread and this one have blown my mind with knowledge bombs.

Next thing someone is going to tell me something crazy like Convectrix has 100k effective DPS or Grinlok has lower TTKs than soma prime

>>171220393
>The end of the last thread and this one have blown my mind with knowledge bombs.

Were you here when EHPM happen? I fuck you not that thing just go wat in my head.

>>171220393
>he doesn't know

>>171215829
hitscan, accurate, can go entire missions without reloading, most of the game is against enemies with EHP low enough it kills in a single headshot
if you want a loadout that you never have to change and can easily do any mission its:
Equinox
Soma Prime
Any Secondary
Telos Boltace
Any Sentinel
Elytron
Fluctus
Any Arch-melee
its lazymode

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>>171217839
what's wrong with that?
what are you hoping to get anon?

>>171220310
Ended up getting an unrolled one for 125p,
May RNG have mercy on my soul.

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>>171220878
rivens, what else is worth doing the sorties for

certainly not the trash I get every day

>>171221104
at least you have a bear suit

you do have a bear suit, don't you?

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>>171221223
talkin shit?

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>>171221104
>rivens
but then you'd be complaining about getting a stinger riven.
be happy with what you have

>Free color pack

already own it

t-thanks DE

>>171221319
I'm just saying you might not be such a shitter if you had a bear suit

What do I do when I need to level up a really shit weapon from 0, like the Boltor, Furis or Hikou

>>171218882
each bomb from the cluster has an individual chance to crit

The Kohm is truly Scott's magnum opus.
>stupendous levels of hidden OP
>grineer based
>literally unnerfable (the "balance" team can't into code which is where the magic happens) given that no amount of stat tweaking will ever affect it much
>it uses shotgun mods

The hacks on the "balance" team have no idea how it works so it's just as ridiculously OP now as it was the day it released. I take that back, their attempts to nerf it have actually made it better.

>>171221495
that picture is literally me dummy

>>171221104
>stopped doing sorties when rivens were added
>just want potatoes
>endo is nice
i really wish they would put something in place to make sortie rewards not 100% RNG, there's no goddamn reason for it.

>>171221654
you stand still near other people killing shit and just soak in the thoughtful design of this top-notch game, or you run a bajillion spies

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would you guys say this is worth 300? im buying it

>>171222125
I like spy but anything that isn't melee or a bow gets shit XP from it

>>171215459
When worm grows up, she'll be big enough to swallow as much Grineer as she wants for being lazy. Then she'll curl on top of bloated stomach and listen to her stomach gurgle loudly, and her punished soldiers screaming as they digest into fuel for Worm.

>>171221930
the nerf is just to make it work with multishot the same way every other shotgun does. as you say, the balance team can't into code, but the nerf is right there if they had any fucking clue.

>>171221930
the real question is whether you build for 100% status slash/gas/magnetic, slash/viral/radiation, slash/corrosive/blast, or just pure damage

Javlok is shit and I'm not even going to waste my time taking it to the Simshittacum to post images.

Deal with it. Ferrox is better though.

>>171222237
>anything that isn't melee or a bow gets shit XP from it
explain

do you mean from stealth kills alone? because the multiplier differences really aren't that huge, relatively speaking, though it's fucked that you get more xp as the weapon levels up, and that has nothing to do with using quick spy spamming for xp

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>>171221406
>tfw free riven I got from TWW was a deth-machine rifle riven

I was doomed from the start

>>171222307
Corrosive, and fire for armored targets.
Viral and fire for unarmored.

Given how it operates it doesn't need 100% to proc hundreds of times a second.

>>171221812
>each bomb from the cluster has an individual small chance to crit
I mean, I get that, but each bomb has an even better chance to proc status and I don't see anyone busting a nut about that.

>>171222415
with the best possible riven Javlok does slightly more sustained DPS than a Soma Prime it just doesn't spread it out between as many enemies, it suffers from the same thing that makes opticor/snipers/bows suck
Ferrox is better but still isn't good for horde shooters

>>171222570
Linear status chance; as more pellets are ejected, the high status status is distributed between the pellets, reducing the overall chance to proc.
2.6 status chance per pellet with 3 60/60 mods, or less than 2.59 procs a second on average

>>171222667
No.
It has higher DPS and better TTKs no matter what riven or lack thereof. It also spreads it better given the AoE nature.

>>171223025
For most shotguns you'd be correct. For the kohm? Nope. Each pellet is a self-contained "volley" given the mechanics. Try it.

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What might this be worth right now?

>>171223210
Soma Prime having better TTK versus groups than Javlok was already proven last thread
Javlok is in the bottom of good-tier with Soma Prime
nice try though

>>171223327
150p

>>171223210
I'm more inclined to believe the wiki than someone who thinks Javlok is good

>>171223409
>literally didn't test it, but calls it "proven"
Okay. I still don't know why anyone brings up a middling gun like the soma to begin with. There are much better comparisons for the javlok than it.

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ONE: NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>171223664
>wiki
>ever correct
Test it.

I did. Extensively. Run it through my calc and/or try it yourself.

>>171223671
Soma Prime is the bottom of good, its an excellent weapon to compare against, comparing shit against Tonkor or Memulor is just stupid.
It having similar DPS to Soma Prime is mostly coincidence unless DE had been balancing new weapons around it.

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>>171223676
TWO: NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>171223851
Id put them both squarely in "upper meh", but the premise of the post that started this discussion was that the Javlok is far from shit.

>>171223813
>Run it through my calc
how does your calculator agreeing with your statement have anything to do with actual game mechanics?

>>171224025
Javlok has """good""" burst DPS if you add a fire rate mod, the problem with doing that is that you end up spending half to two-thirds of the time reloading, it has lower sustained DPS and procs less often compared to Soma Prime
it doesn't work as well against multiple targets because it sufers from not being a bullet hose, and its """AoE""" is only 1.6m
Gas Procs are 5m

>ash bladestorm kills don't count as stealth finishers for challenge, stealth bonus, or rivens, and have to go through shields, but can trigger arcane trickery
>shooting clearly alerted enemies with partly filled triangles standing in front of you counts toward stealth challenges but not stealth bonus or anything else
>performing "stealth" prompted finishers counts for all of the above but will randomly fail to award stealth bonuses even if enemy is unalerted and has been spawned for a while
>staggering or blinding and performing frontal finisher attacks on fully alerted enemies can also count for all of the above including stealth bonus
>stealth bonuses when actually awarded are subject to entirely undocumented multiplier changes for weapon types and levels
what the fuck is this system? it's like they just tried to just glue on broken pieces of long-forgotten ideas over the years, completely unrelated to each other and with no consideration for their interaction with any systems in the game, and some raging tard decided that several of the pieces needed to "fit together" so they just smashed them until it held, and whenever someone finds this bizarre amalgamation to be actually useful in any way it gets nerfed either directly or indirectly in ways that can cripples entirely unrelated mechanics and slow down gameplay

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>>171223871
THREE: NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>171224552
>>171223871
>>171223676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uguXNL93fWg

>>171224304
My calc was built and updated based on extensive testing, datamining, and a bit if decompiling where possible.

Test.
It.

>>171224402
You realize it hits 90% status rather easily which also applies to the AoE and it can proc gas over a much wider area.

Lets also not forget the charged shot (which you should be using) has 3.2m and the throw has 6.9 and is theoretically the best use.

>>171223327
1500p

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if you want to deal damage just pick Mesa/Mirage/Equinox/Saryn

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>manage to get lucky and buy a veiled pistol riven from someone for 20p
>unveil it
>furis

fucking kill me please

>>171224720
the build you gave last thread with riven is less than 9 procs per second

>>171223492
>>171224741

Hmmm...conflicting

>>171225102
*per target in range*

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>>171225120
trust me my fellow chosen one, you can certainly scam some shabbos goy for 1500p out of their hard earned plat...

>>171224967
I pick Nova_____

>>171225102
less than 9 procs per second on burst, less than 4.5 procs per second sustained
>>171225256
1.6m range on the AoE is not going to help with that unless you're using Vauban or Nidus
this was all covered last thread

>>171225085
>literally single gun in the game you can give to hostage and it would live eternally
>riven, which with good rolls could turn this hostage into vampiric killing machine
What are you even?

>>171224720
>my calc has to do with game mechanics because I say it does
okay but that's the problem. offering it up as proof doesn't mean anything if the issue is whether you know what you're talking about in the first place. you're just begging the question.

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> tfw ur dreams will always be memes

>>171226075
nigger that's not the point, he's literally saying go fucking test it yourself

>>171225326
It's a 16.99 burst PPS with a 3.426 sustain on spam.

Soma prime is 9.12 burst with 6.468 sustain.

One big thing to mention is that the javlok's gas procs will hit FAR harder.

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alright dudes, submitted my mastery fodder to the forums.
actually I don't even like corpus weapons much, I'm more of a tenno, grineer guy.

>>171226075
I bet you hate the guide also

>>171226269
at least two of us have tested it and seen he's bullshitting, I don't even have the riven the soma anon was using and I only got better TTK on single targets, when I spawned 20 the soma shat all over it, and when I spawned a bunch of medium level shit it just made soma come out even farther ahead because it never had to reload where as the javlok had to reload at least 3 times

>>171226075
Go try it.

Seriously. Try it. Your blatant conjecture is getting you nowhere. Unless they've changed the mechanics since it was last touched in august (my tests indicate otherwise) it's as close as possible to actually running a sim.

If they HAVE changed it: post video proof in link or webm format and I'll slate it into an update on the calc.

>>171226412
I actually like corpus weapons so I appreciate your input

>>171226412
this looks cool as shit good job

>>171225631
I believe Rivens and Acolyte mods don't work for the hostage.

>>171226768
>august 2015*

I'm always more than happy to fix bugs or errors in my calc so long as there's verifiable proof. You'd know that if you were around last time I was here.

>>171226768
>>171227129
AoE headshots got nerfed sometime ago, AoE now only headshots if the first part of the enemy touched is the head.
AoE can now no longer double dip on ancients by hitting both of their weakspots.
Gas stealth multiplier is about to be nerfed.

>>171226269
that's my point, I haven't disagreed with anything he's suggested because I don't care. I'm not the anon who suggested the khom works like regular shotguns or any part of the soma v. javlok debate. I'm just pointing out that saying a thing and then telling someone to verify your statements by using a thing you made is asinine.

>>171226623
>not just throwing it at the low shit and literally 1-shotting it all
>admitting he's right at the start of your post and then saying he's wrong.
Okay.

>>171227271
>about to be nerfed
wasn't the war within about to be released for like 9 months?

>>171227271
Oh, you're still talking about the javlok? We've moved on to the kohm a while back. The discussion here was about the kohm's proc rate.

>>171227364
Javlok is only better than Soma Prime for single targets, almost the entire game involves multiple targets
>throwing Javlok
>ever
it does less damage less often than my melee, and since I have to go pick the damn thing up or wait 20 seconds to get it back its worse than just using melee
melee has larger AoE, strike more often, for more damage, and has other useful utility the javlok does not have

>>171227364
spawning 20 in simulacrum splits them all into 3 groups, by throwing it I'd more than triple my TTK for them all

>>171227639
Anon: my calc runs numbers against individual targets. I don't know why you're trying so hard to move the goalposts after confirming that it's correct. Furthermore: why would you actually care what you bring to low level shit when Ember, Equinox, Saryn, and Mesa exist?

>>171227639
but muh mogamu told me the primary fire is shit and throwing is good!

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something thats been bugging me. is our dojo ironically hideous or did someone think it looks good?

>>171227987
>Y-y-you're moving goalposts
>proceeds to strawman
wew lad
why do weapons matter at all when ember, equinox, saryn, and mesa exist?

>>171228189
maybe they're swedish

>>171228189
nice color scheme

>>171228189
i dunno, is your mesa ironically hideous or do you think it looks good?

>>171228189
You haven't seen my clan's dojo yet, it's so... clean...

>>171228189
ask wia

>>171228241
Because they all fall off before weapons do in most cases.

>discussion was started with a post saying the javlok isn't shit
>you interject with soma
>i post numbers from my calc concerning what it does: individual targets
>you say it's wrong and then prove it right
>you then confirm it's correct multiple times while screaming about gas prics on AoE targets
>the discussion moves to kohm
>you call bullshit on easily testable mechanics
>i call your call asking that you test it
>you go back to screaming about the soma killing weak shit with gas
Anon... I...

>>171228374
I just want my enemies to see me coming

>>171228652
but wia used vomit brown and pink

the LA lakers scheme came in after he was banned, and I still think it looks fucking hideous

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RED CRIT TIME

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>171229197
don't, you'll summon him

>>171228862
your arguing with at least 3 different people from the looks of it, I was not the original anon that brought up soma
your calculator is a strawman bullshit, we don't use it, we test through actual gameplay because there is no better way to test, the discussion has not moved on to kohm you're just trying to change the topic
all that's been proven is that javlok is better for single targets, soma prime is better for multiple targets, and soma prime is better overall

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>Smeeta red crit buff causes Miter and Seer to do reduced damage because neither of them have crit values

Holy fuck that's amazing

>>171226412
>Corpus hate Tenno for destroying the Orokangs
>They create a weaponzed potato peeler to combat them

FUCKIN' POTTERY

>>171227990
I don't understand how people can stand to watch his videos even for a minute.
Go right now and watch a video by him and tell me it doesn't sound like he's gargling cum while choking on cock whenever he speaks.

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>>171229197
>memecrits

>>171229391
and the general opinion on soma prime is that its bad because its not an AoE or shotgun so by extension Javlok is also bad

>>171229391
I don't think you know what as strawman is, anon...

Also: if you could read you'd have seen that the thread had moved on to the kohm before you brought the javlok vs soma autism back up.

>>171229586
A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.
the argument is about whether or not javlok is good in game
javlok is not good in game, but it is good in your calculator, that's why you keep bringing up your calculator because you can't actually argue that its good in game

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Maybe gottfaust can finally prove redcrits are a meme. What say you?

>>171229406
Don't worry, I'm waiting for an AFF BOOST before I give it a go.

>>171229503
Welp seems like I'm too late.

>>171229857
Javlok is "'"good""" its just not a meta god weapon that works in endgame, and endgame doesn't matter because it doesn't exist in any substantial way anymore
even the recent event, the best way to play it was by NOT killing anything so meta weapons didn't matter

>>171230439
>prove
there's nothing to prove, you're just intentionally misinterpreting the objective numbers

>>171230570
The best way to play any mission is to mindlessly crowd control the fuck out of everything.

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thinking of submitting this to the melee thing

its a shield claw sword thing

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>>171230757
MODS

>>171230871
read the rules

>>171230871
Just make a copy of Centaur and see if they even notice.

>>171230715
literally misinterpreting nothing

>>171230932
>redcrit = redheadcrits

whew you're dumb

especially since that argument is an argument for hitting 100% crit, not for redcrit

>>171229857
And yet it is objectively "not shit" where guns are most efficient": killing high level targets. There is no point in using guns on low level masses when melee or frames are orders of magnitude more efficient and effective.

I assumed this thread was at the same level of game knowledge as when I was last here. Obviously I was wrong. Let me explain:
>guns are only the most efficient tool on high level hardened targets
>thus you should only care about high level hardened targets when discussing guns
>thus my calc is built for high level hardened targets
These are the bases of my statements. Assuming we were on the same page was my mistake. Does that clear it up for you?

>>171231116
>>guns are only the most efficient tool on high level hardened targets
this is no longer true, slash combo melee is the go to now
maiming strike + blood rush = everything dead
yes you read that right, melee is finally good

>>171231116
Did you not take the autism fallacy into account you /pol/ memeing baboons.

>>171231313
What did he mean by this?

>>171231116
it's shit at killing high level targets, worse than soma prime, perhaps we differ on what a high level target is, for me high level targets only show up after 60 waves 60 minutes 12 rounds etc
also see
>>171231254
memeing strike trivializes enemies at every level

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gottfaust, what do you think of a weapons guide that is not based on DPS or TTK numbers?

>>171214698
When lazy faggots like you die out.. So never.

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Meant to ask this in the /v/ thread that popped up, but it 404'd before I could ask, so sorry for the scrub question but I have three points left to upgrade my warframe with, and I have room to upgrade armor, health, or shields (or I could toss on a low level enemy radar, but that seems less important) and I'm wondering which of the three is most valuable in the long run. I'm leaning shields since they replenish, and will be useful over and over, but I don't really know the ins and outs of warframe. Basically I want to know which will bring me more bang for my buck, and/or which is the more important of the three.

Current ranks are
shields at +360% (8/10)
vitality at +240 (5/10)
armor at _80% (7/10)
I also have flow at 4/5 and fast deflection at 4/5

I have three free points. What would you upgrade?


I'm playing Nyx if that makes any difference.

>>171232313
post build

>>171232313
Nyx has high shield capacity and your redirection is better so go with that. If your shields become depleted or you get toxin procd, use absorb to recharge your shields and wait out poison damage.

>>171231893
What would you base it on?

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>>171232860
damage and TTK

The only reason I'm playing this stupid game right now is because I couldn't get a Switch for the new Zelda game to try and revive the dead sense of childlike wonder inside me

That and I can't be fucking bothered to get a PS4 for Bloodborne / Horizon Zero Dawn. Donno why Nintendo has a grip on me.

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>>171232705
I assume pic related is what you are after

>>171232739
Ok, glad to hear this, since as I mentioned, this is where I was leaning anyway, but I wanted to be sure.

Oh, and I'm fully aware that I could drop the master thief and upgrade everything else, but I'm a greedy bastard, and mostly play solo anyway.

>>171233175
>What is cemu

>>171233175
There are more games than just Warframe for your PC anon.

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>>171233231

>>171233231
this has to be bait

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HAHAHAHAHA, I'LL GET LUCKY EVENTUALLY RIGHT?

fuck kuva farming

>>171233231
>Damaged continuity
My eye twitched.
Build efficiency and range.

>>171233306
cemu is a pipe dream that can't properly emulate the game
runs like shit

>>171233337
there are, but I've played the ones I like to death and want something new
as shit as warframe is, there's generally something new every couple of weeks even if it's just fodder to collect and never touch again

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>>171233231
this is the best build ive ever seen

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>>171233231

>>171233231
Nyx has low armor so steel fiber and armored agility give negligible benefits, especially since armor only applies to health.

Also get a maxed Stretch mod on her ASAP as it increases her chaos range enormously. You want Nyx power range to be as high as possible. Streamline and Energy Siphon should also be your next go to mods.

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>>171233502
>>171233497
>>171233356
>making fun of a new player for not having mods
I know you guys want to feel superior for the first time in your pathetic lives, but this is just sad

>>171233356
>>171233497
>>171233502
I told you guys, I'm a scrub, I work with what I have. That's the ONLY continuity I have ever picked up.

My initial question still stands, but since we've gone this far anyway, what should I change?

>>171233894
Don't have a stretch, but it's time for me to go hunt for that. Thanks. I assume I'll want to drop armored agility for it?

>>171233962
>Not shitting on newbies so they have incentive to get better
Oh wait I see those underscores in your anime reaction image, fuck off tierqueer

>>171233231
Sell ALL your damaged mods for endo or credits, don't ruin your life and don't even think about them

Remove Steel Fiber and Armored Agility

Show us what you have after you do this

>>171234062
If you're on PC add me and i can give you some good mods for her.

Ign: OmniXVII

>>171234062
ign?

>>171233498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBJ9RnbK8G4

you won't get lucky

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>>171233231
>>171234062
this is how you want to build Nyx if you want to use Chaos

since you don't have these mods, keep this in mind: get duration, range and efficiency. look for any mods you have that increase these.

drop your IGN and I can give you some of them for free.

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>>171233231

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>>171234145
>shitting on new players without any explanation or reason for why their build sucks
>when they haven't even done anything wrong but open up the game, since ANY build you make <50hours in is going to suck balls because you have no mods

yeah you're a dumbass. It's quite sad you're stooped to making fun of newbies to feel better about your own pathetic life. What a coincidence someone as sad as you happen to hate the guide

>>171234608
jesus fucking christ, just kill yourself already, fuck

>>171234232
>>171234249
>>171234313
IGN VOLTswaggin

>Atomos riven
>Status chance
>cold
>-critical chance

I know I'm not rich but how fucked am I?

>>171234709
you're the one who should consider suicide. Making fun of newbies is one of the most pathetic things you can do in vidya.

>>171234608
Hey friend, are you totally stoked for season 2 of Shingeki no Kyojin?

>>171234903
>5% critchance
You didn't lose anything. Plus the cold can make it radviral and save you a slot if it's more than 90%

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>>171234709

>>171235195
Max rank it is 93.1% status and 92.9% cold. Is it worth using or should I try to sell it? I don't have the atomos

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JUST FUCK MY RNG UP SENPAI

>>171235032
t. facebook "gaymer"

nigger, shittalking anyone and everyone, ESPECIALLY newbies, is a time-honored and sacred tradition of online gaming

uninstall your life

>>171235445
rip

>>171234780
enjoy

>>171234145
>>171234608
Thanks for the backup, but it's not needed, I got everything I needed despite the barbs. I not only got the answers I was looking for, but I got some free shit out of it.

>>171235532
Thank you kindly.

>>171235394
I don't like this weapon, so i'll say "Sell it". It's like 100p at least Sold the similiar stats for that much

>>171235532
it's a tradition in highly-competitive online games like DotA and CS

extending that kind of behavior to a casual shooter like Warframe just shows how autistic and isolated you are

>>171234608
>Do the same shit but somehow it's ok when it comes from you

So why does being a hypocrite come so naturally for you?

>>171235889
and yet I've already done more in game to help the newbie we've all had fun shitposting about than you, I guarantee it :^)

kill yourself

Time for a round of "Who gets the potato", our lucky players are

>Nyx
>Ash Prime
>Limbo
>Vauban
>Ember
>Valkyr

>>171236014
I make fun of shitters who think they're hot shit, not newbies looking for advice

>>171236018
have you given away 20k+ worth of stuff and created a frame guide that any player can use to help build frames?

>>171236035
check the guide m8

>>171236035
Ash Prime or Limbo

>potatoing non-prime frames

>>171236035
Ash Prime is fun and has a great passive for boosting slash procs

Do you have any other potatoed frames so far?

>>171235532
Almost punch a guy who does this "tradition" the problem is we weren't playing online computer game, we were playing board game.

>>171236135
I hope you put your generosity and community figure status on your application to medschool

>>171236339
didn't need it, already got in

>>171236152
Those was my two top choices

>>171236231
Frost, loki, trin prime, mag, mag prime, mirage, volt prime, and zephyr

>>171236278
>caring about meatspace, or assuming the same rules apply
get out

>>171236135
yes, actually

I've gotten no fewer than 30-some newbs now to spend plat on Oberon

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Oh, and to the other three /wfg/ players that sent me tells to help me out, thank you very much, but my needs have been serviced by one of your others. Have some Lohan cleavage as a thanks.

>>171236390
We call can't wait till you fail.

>>171236035
>>171236396
Legitimately don't understand this kind of question. Why post such a vague question when the tier list/frame guide exists? When you ask "what should I potato" it's so fucking vague. Do you want a tank? a DPS? Speedrunner? Frame for sorties? All these questions are best answered by spending 2mins looking at the tier list/frame guide

Instead you want to ask random shitters on /wfg/ for their opinion, without even expressing what kind of opinion. If you legitimately think Ash or Limbo are potato-worthy, when there exists superior resources to tell you otherwise, you deserve all the shit you'll get.

Do you build Javlok for crit or status?

>>171236634
>my needs have been serviced by one of your others

Some how that's kind of lewd.

>>171236171
So, how do i un-potato my frames which i've got before devs even drawn the prime versions, uh?

>>171236898
I wouldn't have it any other way.

>>171237091
very slowly

>>171237091
you sell them

>>171236708
Wow, you're being pretty rude to a new player. I mean I really and what is this tier list? I did not see any in the OP so I'm guessing this is just one of /wfg/'s maymays like the discord

>>171237509
>>171236708
>>171236135
samefag

>>171237509
it's literally in the OP

>>171237675
lol

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>>171237675

I am building the tigris prime.
Is it really THAT good?
I mean I have a Tonkor and it gives me red crits and shiet.

>>171238001
>4chanx
Nice try

>>171238001
>no gay hats with sex on

one job

>>171238465
tigger prime can oneshot god

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help me out here

>tfw download boltace macro
>its shit and keeps hitting after a slide after it does the combo

REEEE i just want a good macro

>>171236806
Yes

>>171239040
stwraith is literally only good for status

I'd have gone for right, but -duration is shitty for viral

>>171238591
Mother fucker, you left me annoyed at that shit. I'm many things. A lover of Mag, sonic porn, and worst filth but to call me that most foul of fucking names is the gravest fucking insult I have ever heard on the net

>>171238841
I'm sorry, I only watch tranny sexfighting porn

>>171237352
I... just can't. Memories and such, when warframe was interesting.

Is Excalibur worth to potato? If he is then I have 7 warframes to potato now Even if I don't use them

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>>171240283
Potato the frames you enjoy playing most it's not rocket science.

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hmm these rolls are really making me :think:

>>171240449
BUT WHAT IF I USE THEM ALL They could be all useful and with the potato I can make em better like it should be

>>171239956
you can revert prime frames back to their non-prime skins, you know

it's almost the same as having the base frame!

>>171240812
I'm glad it's making you think instead of being a total shitter like >>171239324
>>171239040

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>>171240812

>>171240889
you check the tier list

>>171241142
Oh fuck you, they are all interesting

>Excalibur
>Limbo
>Titania
>Ash Prime
>Nekros Prime
>Trinity Prime
>Volt Prime

These fags need their potatos

>>171240947
Yeah, i know. But they'll need formas anyway, i'm too lazy. Well, maybe on the next affinity weekend, hah.

>>171241030
to be honest I did go with the right since I only run corrosive most of the time on the strun riven

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>>171241242
Ok since you cant dicide do limbo titanic and trinity.
Also happy march green holiday

>gottfaust BTFO so bad even TQ feels sorry for him
>TQ doesn't yet know gottfaust is a valkfag

>>171222147
Depends on how high that multishot gets, but most likely.

>>171241816
omg i love both of those idiots though
GoyFaust's TTK stuff is neat but has a bigger ego than the fucking orange-skinned lizard president with a 200% MAD level when DE does things he doesn't like
Tierqueer is an annoying piece of shit but there are always going to be idiots looking for tier rankings and he does an ok job of assessing things enough for a novice to use it

why can't we all just be one big happy family :)

>>171242076
Hey i know why don't we all get on discord and circlejerk each other until we cum.

>>171242239
>implying the circlejerk isn't a natural and inevitable part of the life cycle of a general
Welcome to /vg/, here's your discord link and OP copypasta.

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Thank you very much Dr. D

I just realized that I don't have any corpus melee weapons, what should I get?

>>171242947
Ohma

>>171242818
Pleasure is all mine, Anon.

>>171242818
Sorry, but, uh, wrong thread?
Or did you just forget to >>reply?
Understandable either way.
Really, this kind of thing happens all the time here.
Can't remember when, but someone posted a /HotSG/ here by accident before.
Everyone makes mistakes, anon.

>>171242947
secura lecta

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>>171243080
No mistake.

>15/15 rivens

So, what happens if I get one more from Sortie exactly?

>>171243080
> the shitter has never received presents from kindly DrD
maybe one day.

>>171243364
if not for that terrible shopped "shadow" that would be a really good picture of a potato

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>>171243387
buy more slots goyim

>>171243387
You'll be forced to turn one into Endo on the spot. I don't think it even gives you the option to buy a slot when it happens but can't remember for sure.

A competent game dev would have made it so that only identified Rivens would count against your inventory cap, but DE fucked up and made it so that Riven stats are locked in the moment they entire your inventory rather than when you unveil them.

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I finally got it. A mod I have 0 interest in.

Who should I run this on and why? I usually just use vitality even on frames like Frost Prime cause fuck shields. (until we get shield gating, IF we ever do)

>>171244224
inaros

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Do people like Latron?

>>171244279
>Wasting a mod slot for one half of a mod

Why? I alright with just vit on him.

Also I totally failed to NOT screencap the chat and show you guys the noobs in my clan. rip

>>171244224
only 100 more days until you get the next piece of mastery fodder, 10o

>>171243978

60p for 3 slots is just comically expensive though. I'll do it this once, not again.

What are some prime weapons you want to see buffed, or changed so they aren't shit anymore?
Cernos Prime, Akbronco prime, Fang Prime, holy fuck are those primes shafted so hard

>>171244662
im hoping its as good or better than the melee weapon, that thing is an actually useful utility

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HOLY SHIT Warbros so fucking buttblasted about event scores that they've sunk to seeking attention on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/5zuk0o/regarding_some_recent_shadow_clan_leaderboard/

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>>171244890
>tfw too intelligent to autistically grind for hours for a meaningless achievement

>>171244890
le upboated

really, though, you don't think DE should be held accountable for this kind of scummy bullshit? literally rolling back scores earned legitimately and already recorded for anyone to have seen?

>>171245336
Hello Graphene.
Frankly I don't give a shit, I've got better things to do than headsmash my keyboard for four hours for a digital pat on the back.

>>171245336
/wfg/ are crabs in a bucket.

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Okay so how much status do I need to make Kohm work again? is it actually 99% or do I just need all four status element mods?

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>Enjoying the Telos Boltor so far

At what level does it fall off?

>>171245694
You need 100% status for pellet/shotgun based shit if memory serves, for every shot/pellet to be 100%.

>>171245768
The level of realizing you're letting macros play the game for you.

>>171245464
>Hello Graphene.
wrong warbro :^)

sardonically or not, still a hypocrite so I've got a leddit account like anyone else and actually value it (even if it is a fucking echo chamber) as another venue of discussion and aggregator of information, and I'm glad to see this discussion being held in anywhere that isn't under such direct control by DE and their cummods (ie forums and the wiki)

>>171245856
Who's to say the /r/warframe mods aren't bought out? Fuck knows the forum mods are braindead sheep.

>>171245843
Is there even a way to hit that much status b4 rivens?

>>171245998
I'm pretty sure the mods are reticent to support anything directly against DE's whims as far as
>community management
but it's at least one step further removed

>>171244890
Warbros has been a leddit clan for a long time now, and they always get butt flustered when their cheating doesn't work.

>>171246143
Nano-Applicator and dual stat mods I think.

>>171246246
>always been a leddit clan
Nigga /wfg/ literally has their recruiting spiel in it. You don't see their shit over on reddit ever.

>>171246246
>Warbros
>cheating
nice ancient meme

>>171244890

>autists being autistic about the shit they're autistic about

not sure how or why this surprises you

>>171244224
wukong can use it quite nicely, and from what I've heard it can be kinda useful for chroma

>>171246927
I mean, fair point I guess. But goddamn the lengths they'll go because they feel they deserve 1st place without actually achieving it.

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>>171244420
Yes. Working on making mine better.

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I want to to buy two Tennogen skins but I feel like it's entirely my dick doing the thinking.

Any input, my niggers? I'm thinking of Visage Nova and Saikou Nyx

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>>171244420
boi

>>171247756
buy a gun and shoot yourself

>>171247756
Visage Nova is a good choice, especially if you're a weeb who's addicted to extraneous belt decorations. Fuck all Nyx Tennogen, it's garbage. Get some Hagoromo Zephyr or something shiny.

>>171247796
arent you the retard who bought that riven for ~3k plat? top kek

>>171247972
Hey fuck you buddy.

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Heard you guys like ridiculous rivens.
11K damage Seer.

>>171248341
>44 forma
Nigga the fuck

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oy vey

>>171248341
>and it's still shit

>>171248814
It's more since that screenshot.

>>171248102
sorry im not going to affirm your autism by congratulating you on wasting your hard earned plat

Is banshit resonance worth a shit without savage silence and spin2win?

>>171249434
Resonance is always worth the slot. Overlapping sonar spots gets ridiculously powerful.

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>>171244890
not even worth trying to fight
DE has been stepping their foot down on alot of things. This is good and bad

Good: DE isn't 2nd guessing their own choices and now we will have to suffer

Bad: They don't even care if they made a bad choice regardless of how out of touch they are ex. Becca and a bunch of other vets giving out ignus wraith blueprints, hema research


for now on just fuck up the leaderboards wither they give excuses for you cheating (which they do anyways win or lose) or to have to deal with shitposting gloaters.


as for them putting their foot down inside of complying go find examples where they make special exceptions and compare. for example: raid bugs would exist for literal years regardless of how many people report but if the bug helps the player then its all of a sudden a top priority. the shit is sometimes half assed fixed to the point where it just causes even more bugs ex. vay hek being unkillable outside of lor version that one time

>>171249417
> hard earned
lmao ok

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>Aklato
T-thanks

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>>171249591
speaking of Ignis Wraith BPs
I'll be online in a while to give out more

>>171249539
Right, but I have valk for melee idiocy: is she still worth a shit as a gunframe?

>>171249795
die

>>171244890
>[removed]
fucking nazi mods, surely TCPI lost some points to this bullshit? but they probably don't care

>>171249795
But I already have an Ignis Wraith built.

>>171249897
Remind me what a TCPI is and why I care about it.

Also
>nazi mods
Nigga have you SEEN the forums? The sub mods are angels compared to the entitled bullshit of the forum mods.

>>171250007
>How dare you say anything negative or critique the game
>Why aren't you sucking DE's dick
>Banned

>>171250145
Yes, well done, you described the forums. The sub had a 250+ comment hatefest on DE the other day that never got removed, because no rules were broken.

>>171250007
I suppose I simply expected something better from a place not so directly policed by DE and their cummods

reminder that TQ is shit

I've never used Daggers and Covert Lethality. What's the most fun dagger or are they identical for the most part?

>>171252101
Rakta can get you free energy and oversheilds, that's it

>>171252101
Ceramic and Karyst if you don't have >>171252495