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Forever cucked edition

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Roared >>170987016
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>blood gets 0 cute girls this update
it's trash
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>>171001935
Spider Imp
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Third for best girl in ToG.
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T S U K K O M E
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>>171001852
A 4PP WARD WITH STATS CURVE

HOOOOOOLY SHIT DRAGON IS SAVED
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Anyone have a good Nep list that doesn't run Cerberus.
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>trying to get 1 Blood win for daily
>SWORD SWORD SWORD
>switch over to control
>run into this maddest of men
Thanks Dragonbro
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Don't worry, Browen. Y-you still have your eggs.
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>>171001969
:3
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remove kwavy
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>when you try to buy a character portrait but literally EVERYTHING goes wrong and you end with Eidolon of Madness
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Dragon lego
4PP
3/3 - 5/5
Fanfare: Destroy an opponent's PP orb

Overflow is always active

Y/N?
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ToG will make SIX (6) (VI) (SECHS) pp ANY (no matter what) TWO (2) (II) (ZWEI) FOLLOWERS great again
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12501645

http://www.strawpoll.me/12501637

>>171001985
More expensive goblin mage that gives you the followe for free, and avoids negative fanfares. Plus it's the only turn 5 option to play on curve besides DoD.
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H-HEAR
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>>171002032
Honestly I can get over the forest genesis dragon that leaves wards, as much as I would like it. The thing that really ruffles my feathers is they gave the D Shift counter to SWORD. So the best craft gets even better, and will be the only control to not get countered by D Shift. Fucking bravo.
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>>171001852
>There are people who honestly argue a worse goblinmount demon is going to save dragon
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>>171002127
Photoshopped
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CARRIER HAS ARRIVED
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No avatarfagging in this thread, please.
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>>171002124
Can't kill Aegis :^)
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>>171001852
>>171002014
>turn 2 Oracle
>turn 3 2/5 ward

Tell me how aggro can answer this without losing all of his tempo?
It's a good card allowing you to remove imprisoned dragons and goblin mounts.
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>>171002127
DELETE THIS.
Dragon is garbage because it loses to the few brave Neps that still haven't been driven away by Dshit and storm.
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>>171002125
>More expensive goblin mage that gives you the followe for free, and avoids negative fanfares. Plus it's the only turn 5 option to play on curve besides DoD.
Oh, it SUMMONS followers. I thought it puts it in your hand, that's much better.

>Plus it's the only turn 5 option to play on curve besides DoD.
Has always been good though.
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I'd like to see a card like

1pp Dragoncraft Amulet
Countdown: 3
Gain a play point orb

At least then they'd have a better turn 1 play than fucking eggs/Ivory dragon
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>>171002234
>aggro
>in tempest of the gods meta
good one
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Is fighting and despair all you know?
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I think I almost lost to a modified Forest starter deck as Dragon. It had Cynthias, Lionels and Blessed Fairy Dancers but I didn't see a single Roach.
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>>171002323
Is sucking dicks all you know?
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>>171002267
>Has always been good though.
Fuck I forgot to write 'Erinyes' in the beginning of that sentence.

ERINYES is still good, she can clear a cheap follower without needing to waste an evo. Squall Lancer is also a viable option if you're willing to spend that evo. But yeah Airship is some crazy board value if you hit the actual 2 drops and not the shittier 1 drops.
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>>171002124
>thighs.png
>Thighs cropped out.
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>>171002234
It doesn't.

Aggro's pretty fucked the next expansion, and by the look of some new cards control is getting, so is dshift

hope you like having your games decided by who draws more bahamuts
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So I want to play shadow in ToG. Did they get good cards?
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>>171002021
>aggroblood
>cant beat swordcucks

What kind of a monstrosity deck are you playing
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>>171002391
Suck my dick, but nothing will change
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>>171002323
While there's enemies and robbers running around free, yes.
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>>171002234

The same way how most deal with a turn 3 soccermom, dude. It's not going to be something extreme.
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>>171002156
No one is saying it will "save" dragon you obnoxious faggot.

Everyone in the last thread was calling the card garbage like a bunch of idiots because guess what, /svg/ has almost never been right about anything.
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>>171002468
>dragon will be good because /svg/ is always wrong
Heh, I can't wait to see your face when Tempest releases
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>>171002312
You probably thought Bahamut was an useless card which dies to DoD during his first reveal right?
Draconic Fervor a turn 5 do nothing card which will never be played right?
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Oh hey, Sword actually got a shitty legendary. God bless.
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>Controls one greatest weakness is Dshift
>Make a card that counters Dshift

Cygames are a bunch of fucking hacks.
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>>171002417
For you.
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>>171002513
Who are you quoting?
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>>171002468

>Forest gets a 5PP 4/5 ward with late game potential
>Dragon gets a 4PP 2/5 ward that "grows"

When put two side by side, you know which one gets cucked.
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>>171002461
>The same way how most deal with a turn 3 soccermom, dude
Concede?
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>>171002468
But I am always right and spoonfeeding you.
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>>171002551
The only hackery here was giving it to sword
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>>171002308
That's a very stupid card. A fucking dead draw on turn 7 onwards. And watch until runecraft players let you edge for 3 turns then kaleidoscope back into your hand before it pops.
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>>171002590

Trade in a follower + removal like Pact. No biggie, really.
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>>171002638
Bap +bloody mary +bel

Memes ahead?
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>>171002551
>counters Dshift
>counters
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>>171002569
>vagina bones
>thighs exposed

Does anyone else think this is fucking disgusting?
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>>171002571
>quoting
You HAVE to go back
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>>171002569
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>Control Sword is going to have a 60+% win rate

haHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>171002551
I already have a positive win rate again dickshit as csword, and they'll petrify Durandal if you let them live 7-8 turns anyway.

It's a great way to cuck wank bolt, though.
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>>171002468
>Forest gets 5pp 4/5 ward that doubles as a late game finishter
>Dragon gets 4pp 2/5 ward that gets more attack if you skip turns and will most likely die before making use of that effect
Really ramps my orbs
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>>171002737
and of course it's a newfag

try lurking a bit more friend
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>>171002734
Are you some kind of a faggot?
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>>171002734
How is exposed thigh disgusting? Are you muslim or just gay?
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>>171002571
Not that imp but I often quote Eris!
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She's quite a cutie. Too bad she sucks.
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>>171002638
It's fucking Dragoncraft, that is exactly the kind of shit they'd get. You actually believe they'd get good, viable 1 drops?
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>>171002661
>2 cards for 1
>a turn where aggro couldn't get face damage in
>a turn where aggro was forced to trade
>no biggie for aggro
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>>171002468
It's garbage because we are expecting a khawy tier broken card
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how does that new drop you to 10 hp and give you a shit ton of draws card interact with bloody Mary
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Post Haven
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>>171002734
Those are not vagina bones though
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>Forest has a better Albert that doesn't need evo to deal more than 6 damage

daaamn

i guess that's going to be the control forest finisher i was asking about earlier
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>>171002830
She is a kid (cunny), only good to rape.
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>>171002432
Anyone?
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>>171002910
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>>171002931
called the cops
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>>171002883

>everyone plays aggro

Jokes on you. I am one of Nep believers.
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>>171002910
Just for you.
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>>171002967
Thane and 1pp ignore ward.
Everything else seems meh.
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>>171002967
>https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/tempest-of-gods-cards?card_class=6&cost=All&card_type=All&card_rarity=All

L I T E R A L L Y
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>>171002579
You can't compare between crafts like that, there are plenty of cards that are amazing in one craft that would be mediocre in another, depending on craft mechanics and what else they have.

In this case, one of Dragon's problems was no particular good play on turn 3 after they ramp and have 4 PP. This allows them to make use of it, so expect this to drop often on turn 3, quite a bit before the opponent has access to the standard 5 cost removal cards.
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>>171002929
>asking for a finisher when you ALREADY HAD SILVERBOLT
are treefuckers the most spoiled people in existence? they are the LITERAL jews of this game
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>>171002910
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>>171002234
Never stop pushing Medusa's Gaze.
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>>171002967
Shadow got a bunch of midrange cards for a deck that basically doesn't exist at the moment. Remains to be seen if it'll be good.
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>game is already in a control heavy meta
>lets add more control options to the game
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>>171003052

All I know is Forest Protector is going to be one big hurdle to deal with because fucking 6/7 ward on turn 5. Then late game they get to slap you for exactly albert damage with one EP.
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>>171003053
silverbolt needs you to not play any cards and typically requires white wolf, you basically have to act like a combo deck

i don't want to play white wolf, so
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>>171002195
Holy shit that's so cool

Reminds me of Doomtrain from FF VIII
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>>171003025
Rape is euphemism to good care.
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>>171002436
>turn 2 Veteran Lancer
>turn 3 Veteran Lancer
>turn 5 White Paladin
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>>171002967
mate, no one here knows which cards will be good or not, just wait until people start deckbuilding
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Why are they killing otk dragon?
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>>171002432
>>171002967

Zombie Party (Removal and board flood)
Immortal Thane (Board flood and burn if you have other stray followers)
Eachtar (Board flood and finisher)

Pretty much that so far. Better check the OP.
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>>171003091
Medusa's Gaze will always be a shit card.
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>>171002541
>game is full of burst
>Sword gets an anti-burst legendary that counters DShift
>shitty
/svg/ is full of D0s, I swear.
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>>170999394
>>170999678
>>170999858
calling me a nigger jew isn't an argument and nice job ignoring mine
in case you haven't noticed, forest can deal 20+ damage on turn 10 easily
dragon can ramp and still doesn't rely genesis in most decks
AND with roland's amulet on field, none of that shit even matters
you sword mains are the biggest cry babies of this general, always whining when someone can potentially stop your brain dead curvestone tactics and god forbid anyone other than sword gets usable cards
8 storm on turn 10 is shit and unfortunately your weak minds won't even be able to recall this conversations let alone acknowledge you were wrong
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Roland's "all allies" extends to the player as well? Will there actually be a control deck that doesn't fold to Dshift?
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>>171003029
It's not like Ramp dragon was suffering against aggro. Now they can just put 3x Rahabs and improve that matchup massively. Now you have more slots after you get rid of imprisoned and goblin mounts for other shit.
But /svg/ still calls him shit shit, but I've learned that most of them are probaby D rank shitters.
Same as they bashed Bahamut for dying to DoD or Draconic Fervor being a 5 mana do nothing card during their initial reveal.
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>>171003215
>Wholesouled Swing
>Jeno
>Blitz Lancer

its fucking brutal honestly

>>171003292
>lets give control a counter to the one counter that beats it
>not terribly fucking shitty
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>accumulated 8 RoB packs from the dailies to open in one go
>got pic-related

Eh, at least I also got a playset of animated attendant now. Farewell, RoB. Guess I won't be opening new packs from you.
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>>171003236
All those floods, nice.
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>>171003327
>10 damage with evo is shit on turn 10
>literally the same thing as Forte + Urd, except with one card
>Forte + Urd is bitched about as "unfair" by other crafts
>Forest Protector also leaves behind a board of wards afterwards, which means it has a far likelier chance of doing further damage than Forte/Urd
UHHHHH ANON
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>>171003354
When ToG hits and dragon once again turns out to be memecraft/neutralcraft will you shut the fuck up?
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>>171002432
>>171003035
>>171003236
are you guys serious? i can't think of a single "bad" card shadow got so far. i guess the worst would be the 2 pp amulet that spawns zombies for 4 shadows, but that's still spawning a storm 2/2 for 4 shadows, which isn't "bad".
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>>171003338
It does count face damage

But petrify
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>>171003354
Fervor IS a 5 mana do nothing. If you say you actually play dragon, act like it. Fervor is good because we need more ramp and draw and heal, but turn 5 fervor is the very definition of do nothing and will lose you games if you do it when they have any tempo.
I see a lot of "/SVG/ is ALWAYS WRONG LOLOLOL XDDD", but usually it's taking arguments that were factually correct out of context and blowing them out of proportion. Baham
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>>171003327
Seems to me like you're crying about someone stopping your 6-7-8 roaches if anything and try to make it a global problem.
Do I remind you that most Albertfuckers are former roach scum who jumped ship because they literally don't know how to play anything without storm?

Same will happen now with forest players playing control sword because they can't stall and storm anymore. Forest just attracts these kinds of tryhard no fun allowed players en masse.
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>>171003354
lmao the only thing replacing imprisoned dragon is grimnir
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>>171003327
>AND with roland's amulet on field, none of that shit even matters
Remind me how that works again? Only takes up to 4 damage from each card? And Jungle Protector is just a pair of 4-attack followers on turn 10, so...
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>>171003390
completely different girls anon
the artist just draws everyone the same like all good japs
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>>171003215
Most of the damage I do to swordcuckery in the early rounds are from effects, yurius especially cripples them as they have to trade with him or remove him or they kill themselves with summons, vania + summon bloodkin, evolved blood wolves, weigt, mini soul devil, all this shit adds up, most swordcucks I fight kill themselves, bloodfed flowerbed is another good card that fucks over other aggro decks, the great thing about blood aggro is you can trade all the while hitting face.
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>Dragon legends still unrevealed
>/svg/ still melting down about some minor card
Can't wait to see the autism explode when the reveal finally happens.
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>>171003534
They aren't bad but they aren't exceptionally good either. He asked about good cards.
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Please Concede!

18086
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>>171003707
The reveal will be that Hydra sliced into 3 weak cards.
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>>171002432
>>171003717
alright then, in my personal opinion:
demonlord eachtar
little soulsquasher
death's ledger
immortal thane
deadmoon disciple
zombie party
are all good cards that will likely see play in some shadow variant. i'm pretty iffy on minthe but like i said i dont think she's a bad card
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>when your poverty deck works
Bunga Bunga with sexy vampires.
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>>171003707
>gold card
>minor
alright
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>>171003707
Megalorca and discard support. I'm 90% sure
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>Genesis Dragon
>10PP 7/9 Storm

>Jungle Protector
>10PP 8/10 Ward Storm

Uhhhhhhh, Shadowbabs?
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Who Nep here?
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>T4 Belphegor or Soul Dealer
>T5 Baphomet
>T6 Mastema and Laura
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>>171003957
>dies to DoD vs dies to Themis
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>>171003898
forgot to add the newly revealed orthrus to the list
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>>171003957
MUH RAMP
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>>171003978
>Use Nep emblem
>play Reaper
F I E N D I S H
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>>171004009
Genesis dies to Themis too
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What card is everyone yelling about I don't understand
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>>171003439

Pretty much. If you count in Goblin Princess in neutral, Shadow can have up to 5 copies of board flood that throws out 3 followers at a time.

I wonder if this guy will ever see the light of day in the new meta.

>>171003534

Orthrus sounds great on paper, but we will really need to try her out first. Of course, if she really chuck Coco&Mimi as an effect, I will still use her

Goblin Zombie and Deadmoon Disciple are okay, but desert rider legendary be desert rider.
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>>171003978
Why is Nep such a cutie?
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>>171003906
Vania is a sexy vampire.
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>>171003957
>Themis' Decree
6pp: Destroy all followers

>Conflagration
>7pp: Deal 4 damage to all followers

>b-but Dragon has Ramp, it can't have good cards!!!!
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>>171004025
Is that actually it? Is cygames afraid to give Dragon good high end followers because of Ramp? Makes sense that the only good dragon decks function by taking high end followers from neutral.
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>>171004102
Jonh titorfags yelling the future.
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>>171003898
>demonlord eachtar
Too expensive for full effect but will certainly be in all midrange shadow decks
>little soulsquasher
Kinda situation because it's only evolved followers and I'd rather save my shadows. Might be a cute turn 6 play with minthe
>death's ledger
might be playble in some 23/478 decks
>immortal thane
Will be in every deck probably
>deadmoon disciple
really good skeleton/goblin alternative
>zombie party
3 damage for 2 plus summon a lot of shit. Great
>Minthe
There just aren't any amazing effects you can play with her immediately and she won't live more than one turn most of the time
>orthus
Nice mini cerberus. Definitely will see play.
>zombie amulet
too expensive but might work with turn 3 midnight howl.
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>>171004160
The innate smugness.
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>Wake up
>Start day with dragonfag tears
Is there a better feeling?
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>>171004191
>conflag can't even wipe Jungle Protector or blood snakes
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>swordcraft
>luminous mage
>evolution points wont be used when evolving allied commanders
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>>171003390
>different girls
>diffrent artist even
>different uniform
However based on the art it seems that men get turned into rats but girls only get turned into cosplayers.
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Fucking cygames, I just want a new ramp card
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>>171004224
>post yfw Cygames admits the Neutrals are meant for Dragon and there are no actual Dragon legos
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sometimes i just went for a tier 1 deck/craft instead of memeing around with fun decks.

recently i realized that me not picking up tier 1 (in any game) is just me being non-conformist
it would probably be fun to compete with the meta.
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>>171004224
Look at Zirnitra
Look at Fafnir
What do you think
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>>171004373
Don't forget that her herself is a commander too ;^)
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>>171002910
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>Dragoncraft Legendary
>10 PP 3/10
>Can't be destroyed by card effects
>While this card is in play, your opponent does not gain additional PP at the beginning of their turn.

Would this be acceptable for ramp dragon?
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>>171004348
>Haven falseflaggers
Shadow and Dragon are BROS 4 lyfe.
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>meanwhile in nipland

Can't make this shit up. How will Rowen recover from this?
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>>171004348
stop bullying dragon! dragons are for hugging not fighting!
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>>171004501
Remove Khawy
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>>171004490
3/10
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>>171004501
>luna_drugging_forte.jpg
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>>171002101
>listening to svg
>ever
heh
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>>171004490
Thank god you are not a designer
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>>171004525
What webiste is that? I want to read more comments like this.
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>>171004525
ROWEN BTFO
HOW WILL DRAGONFAGS EVER RECOVER
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>>171004567
That's like asking to remove Forte.
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>t-turn 3 Rahab will be good

Stop, dragon anons. Don't always assume you will always get to keep Oracle in your starting hand.
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>>171004525
EAT YOUR FUCKING EGGS RYUFAG
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>>171004525
When will the suffering end, dragonbros?
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>>171004396
>forestcraft has no lego yet either

When will the dragoncuck victimizing end?
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>>171004525
With a third gold that's a bad version of another craft's silver.
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>>171004719
>what is the full heal from 1hp 7pp 6/6
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>check out new cards
>new forest card is a crazy storm card with ward
Like what the hell
Seriously what the fuck is that card

Cygames please tell me it doesn't work how it seems to work and that only one of them gains storm
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>>171004525
>Even beta nips make fun of dragon
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>>171004648
>>171004558
Whoops, I was too short to reach the comment above.
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>>171004719
>forestcraft has no lego yet either

Fake news, kys
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>>171004331
the thing about ledger that i really like is that it ONLY pulls shadowcraft followers. you can run it in 2378 and use it as a "4 drop" that puts a lich on board or acts as a tribunal for two turns, or maybe you dont run it in nep at all and it spawns its own archetype. definitely gonna experiment with it when it comes out.
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>>171004792
They both get Storm.

Why should Sword be the only one who gets an Albert?
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>>171004792
What part of "all" is hard to understand?
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>>171004683
>rahab
More like rehab
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>>171004787
Loses to dshift, it's worthless
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Is it confirmed 2 Legendaries per craft for ToG?

There are still 40+ cards to be shown. I wonder what those will be.
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>>171004373
>swordcraft
>gawain
>spellboost all your fucking commander shit
>oh and let's give it rush to ensure it always stays relevant
>turn 6 Roland
>turn 8 Leonidas
>4 cost Aurelias and Alberts
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>>171004787
Oh dear, looks like youve been cucked again.
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>>171001852
Does or get buffed at the end of every turn? Anyway it's pretty strong desu, are Dragonfags really mad at this?
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>>171004792
At 5 PP it dies to DoD, shit card. Literally unplayable.
At 10 PP it is a better Albert, split among two bodies, deals 11 damage. Strictly broken, what was Cygames thinking, completely unbalanced.
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>>171004903
>40+

Only 29
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>>171004828
>maybe you dont run it in nep at all and it spawns its own archetype
Last word only deck?
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Is Jungle Protector going to be a cute elf?
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>>171004963
It's 104 cards for this expac right? How many cards have been shown already? Last I know it's 60?
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>>171004959
>At 10 PP it is a better Albert, split among two bodies, deals 11 damage.
Just 10 with an evolve. 4 + 4 + 2 from evo.
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>>171004982
Sadly no
See >>171004525
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>>171004903
Is it that hard to read a google doc?
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>>171005078
RIOT
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>>171005031
Check the OP dude
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390
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>>171004982
>Jungle
It's a BBC "Black Panther" man. You'll end up with a deck full of hot cute white elf women and then BLACKED to stay relevant.
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>kill 3 Khawys
>play bahamut
>he resurrects khawy
>the game is back to 20 health vs 20 health
Can someone explain to me why Khawy is balanced? I'm serious, I want a legitimate argument.
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>>171005069
And don't forget that they are likely to have evolve because Aerin.
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>>171005159
wow i sure got redpilled by those hot memes anon
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>>171005175
Judgment for heretics like you.
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That's 8 storm damage on 2 bodies with ward for 10 pp in the same class that has fucking silverbolt for 0 pp and roaches

Why is this happening
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>>171005175
>>he resurrects khawy
get destroyed
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>>171004576

Shadosoku
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Wait, is Jungle Protector a gold? Not a lego?
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>>171005224
>Forest is going to take the heal/ward cancer title from Haven
I can't fucking wait to see what the last legendary is.
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>>171003707
If the card is good, Autism
If the card is bad, also Autism.

It's a lose-lose situation. Get ready for Dragon reveals.
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>arisa
>turn 10
It won't see play
Silverbolt wolf is still superior
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>>171005320
>just a bunch of joke posts
>literally no one will present even a vague defense of Khawy
Guess I expected too much of /svg/
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>>171005175
To Shadow cancers play the victim.
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>>171005342
They're still missing a more reliable way to clear the board than Will. Someway to stop 5X Malevalent Serpent besides win asap
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Could someone post a Wolfbolt deck? Got 3 forest missions today.
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>literally tarzan

Expect to see this idiot for meta to come.

>dub will make him unga
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>when you draw 4 cost cards at the beginning switch all out and draw your 3 10 cost legos
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Dragon will never get good cards
Just switch to forest already dragonboys
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>>171005391
Yeah, unless control sword is everywhere
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>>171005224
>Aerin

Oh fuck, I completely forgot she even had an enhance effect
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>>171005490
>>171005490
He's really cute desu
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>>171005521
And it will be.
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>>171005402
Just attack him with 4 and finish him with a 1/x. or kill him with a spell. Don't just face him with you're strongest dude. I hate that card too, but there's plenty ways to get past him.
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>>171005402
You can't defend Khawy, it's just a broken card. If you see anyone trying to defend the card, that's when you know that you shouldn't expect anything of /svg/. Not defending this card is correct.

This game is all about "everything is broken, so nothing is".
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>>171005402
The fuck should I do? I'm a shadowfag and even I can't defend Khawy.

You'll still have to deal with it when playing Ramp Dragon. Just hope people create a better deck for dragon next expac that doesn't care too much about Khawy.
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>dragon gets a card that makes use of their enormous amount of unused pp
Finally ramping has some value right? Right?
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>>171005495
I probably will. Forest finally got a control archetype that isn't gay combo shit, so I guess it's time.
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>>171005391
Silver Bolt is a do nothing if you can't finish them and requies you to run Wolf to be used efficiently. This puts two wards on board and isn't dead starting from turn 5
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>>171005342
>10 PP Legendary Follower
>Fanfare: If you played three other cards this turn add Silver Bolts to your hand until your hand is full and change their cost to 0
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>>171005559

>dub will make him "You enemy me unga"

Calling it now.
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>>171005521
>control sword
What are they going to do? Block me with Frontguard or something?

LOL
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>>171005175
>>171005402

He's not. The effect is inherently retarded.

>Kill strongest enemy minion
>Restore that much HP.

I saw the card once in T2 before it got popular in Nep shadow, and immediately thought "Man, what the fuck? Why is this silver?"
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>>171005490
>YOU UNGA, ME BUNGA
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>>171005698
His attack line better be the Tarzan yell
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>>171002104
I was curious about this myself, so I went into the archives and found a link to some old shadowlog records.
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/49/0/4
Pic related is AggroShadow's win rates across all ranks, and the deck as a whole had a 50.68% win rate. Take whatever conclusion you will since none of these matchups even break 1k games recorded.
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>>171005614
> Don't just face him with you're strongest dude.
I did. That's how I went through the first 3 Khawys and still had them at low HP. It was the fourth one I couldn't handle.
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>>171005175
He's a legendary. Cygames just made him a silver because whatever
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>>171005721
>Wards
>Roland

Trust me that's not gonna be enough
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>>171005620
>I'm a shadowfag and even I can't defend Khawy.
Most shadowfags are Discord, and they'd indeed defend Khawy.
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Is this new Control forest even going to bother with Roaches at this point?
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>>171005175
It's not. It's shadow's only reliable healing source and most opponents can choose how much they want you to heal.
Play Kamura against elf or sword or bats, and you'll get 1 maybe 2 heals at best. It happens to fuck up dragon because of how big their dudes are.
The same way dragon fucks up other decks with weak removal and low attack followers.
The same way haven banish fucks up shadow.
The same way petrification fucks up Haven.
The same way Dshift fucks up everything else.
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>I AM GONNA PLOW YA!
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>this girl is as frail as a goblin but still can kick any Knight's ass

I suppose I will still need to try her out.
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This is my first time playing a card game, can confirm Tempo Rune is gud
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>>171005340
genesis dragon is a gold :^)
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>>171005878
I want to plow that dragon pussy
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>>171005878
kys dubcuck senpai
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>>171005664
The idea of ramping is you get extra mana in order to PLAY EXTRA STUFF. Ramping to then not use your mana is hilarious. The only real value that card has is as an anti-bricking mechanism. So if you play him and then have nothing else to play for turns, your mana does something, but that's not a good situation either way.
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>>171005820
>Roland
>Blocks up to 4 damage
>Unga bunga summons a pair of followers that have 4 attack each
L O L it's like specifically designed to fuck you
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>all these T9-10 wincons
Shout out to the people who kept saying games were too short. Now every game is going to be wards, heals and removal until 10+
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>>171005780
The conclusion I take from this is that aggro shadow's success is largely due to it farming DShitters on ladder.
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>>171005871
>Is this Forest deck gonna bother with the most retarded win con ever that also doubles as removal?
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>>171006007
Yeah, was talking about Tarzan vs Bolts
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>>171006018
And that's bad because?
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>>171005929
>Flame Destroyer
WEW
E
W

How many more people are going to fall into that trap?
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YOU WILL NEVER Fug AMELIA!
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>>171006065
I think it shows you how good forest really is despite forestfags complaining so much. "Do we really want a versatile double ward that also has a good chance of just killing the other player, or can clear the board?" For forest, that's a questionable card because they have so many ways to already kill you before then.
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>>171006095
Not everyone has autism
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>>171006113
9/9 big numbers big win streak
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Oh boy a 8/10 ward storm?

He
Forest has nothing against the upcoming discard dragon legendary

>>171005972
I play dragon a lot
And you don't have enough draw that isn't discard related to always curve perfectly, and your curve is all over the place
You have cards that cost 1 pp to 10 pp
And you can't run discard draw since it's
1. super expensive in terms of pp
2. discards your only good aoe

It's impossible to curve perfectly considering how few cards you have in your hand and how reliant you are on drawing your ramp

You often have unused pp
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>>171005780
I know how it was because I used to play aggro shadow back in DE since it was the only good shadow deck, though I would play mid because it was fun watching LotF outvalue my enemy (rip bug), and it was absolute suffering. I go back and forth between haven and shadow for reference, so I have experience with both crafts.

The only reason Shadow doesn't have the same pitiful playrate this expac is because Haven isn't as used anymore and SahaRamp became popular thanks to Daria.
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>>171005918
Would you play this in midrange? I just don't see aggro shadow being good enough after the expansion
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>control sword will be good
>assuming Morde cares about dealing 4 damage instead of 5
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>>171006095
Fatigue is going to set in hard. No one is going to want to play.
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>>171006186
>9999/9999
>dies to dod
it's shit
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>>171006152
That's not Amelia
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>>171004365
It can if you charge up your pendant by JOing with a bro
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FUCK D-SHIFT CANCER
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>>171006198
Forest Protector really shows us how bad Zeus is. They both cost the same, one is 8/10 worth of ward and storm, the other is 5/10 with bane. What a jokerino.

>I play dragon a lot
I do too, most of my climb to AA3 was spent on dragon. I guess we have different perspectives though we agree on the fundamentals: I think it's sad that Rahab is only good because dragon mechanics are so bad that having unused mana all the time is now an advantage.
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>>171005780
Don't forget that this was also the only semi-playable deck shadow had. There was no Nep.
I tried playing mid shadow with the bugs but it was just too clunky and you got outvalued by Otohime, got rekt by storm haven and Dshift or got completely annihilated by Elana/Seraph still because even though you could survive, you didn't have any Odins.
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>>171006312
>10 mana do nothing
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>>171006152
Stop calling her amelia for fucks sake. That's the mentor teaching girl
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>>171006236

It's a follower that is severely understated due to her fanfare. Still, I can see her killing that evolved follower in turn 4-5.

We will need more sticky followers if we want to get that +2/+0 buff, though.
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>>171006312
I don't know homie i suck at card games, especially building decks i just copied this from somewhere and keep winning, people in C don't know how to save DoDs anyways. I also know this type of deck has a bad rep but i don't have the resources to build anything else right now.
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>>171006018
Dshift will just win by turn 8 before they get to play them.
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>>171006485
>NTR is canon
I don't like this.
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Anyone have a recent Wolfbolt decklist?
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>>171006514
you play this turn 4 instead of reaper if you didnt draw him or turn 5 on reaper along with a 1 drop (DEADMOOOOOON)
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>aggro getting shit on in the new expansion

I love this expac already.

But the dailies will take too long now.
>>
>wake up
>x class gets straight upgrade of a dragon card
That's it. Im liquiefying all of the dragon shit I have and I get in the future.
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>>171006485
Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>171006614
>NTR
Okay, who is getting NTR'd. Please answer me that.
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>>171006614
>being this retarded
It's not the same card.
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>>171006485
I thought Mentor's Teaching girl was loli Amalia.
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>>170999394
I had a response to this post, but it got deleted somehow. Basically just said that even if a dshifter had a perfect answer for roland on turn 7, it still delays the dshift combo since you have to remove the amulet as well. 4 damage flame destroyers and 4 damage wind blasts will not win a game and force dshift to run amulet destruction, which increases your chance to brick and get the perfect turn 7 dshift combo in the first place.
>>171003613
>Seems to me like you're crying about someone stopping your 6-7-8 roaches
Where did I say that? This whole conversation was about dshift and how the new forest gold is shit, but sword players (ironically enough) think it is over powered.
>Do I remind you that most Albertfuckers are former roach scum who jumped ship because they literally don't know how to play anything without storm?
Great that really proved me wrong! Keep it up!
>Same will happen now with forest players
>Forest just attracts these kinds of tryhard no fun allowed players en masse.
Wow! I change my mind about everything I said now!
>>171003626
>>171003465
It's still a shit card no one will use. How often does a dragon player win the game with urd + forte combo on turn 10? Keep in mind they can ramp to 10 mana. Why would I and hold on to a vanilla ward until turn 10 if I can just play roach and win earlier?
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>>171006651
Gelt
>>
STOP BANISHING MY AIELA
REEEEEEEEE
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>>171006549
Don't worry about what people, just play whatever you want/have. I played Daria too when I started the game because I rolled 2 of her, why the fuck wouldn't I.
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How long until cygames finally admits they didn't make leggos for dragon and that they just expect us to use israfil and zeus instead
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>>171006627

Yes, that can work. Though I can imagine them taking extra effort to keep your board squeaky clean. Then your Orthrus will an expensive May. Not like 2 damage is bad, but still.
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>>171006675
it is though.

You can find similarities between all five cards of the character.
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>>171006485
You can literally see Gelt in the second pic.

>>171006707
Use your brain.
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>>171006728
*blackened scripture*
nuthin personnel kid
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96077
No concede please.
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>>171006707
It is
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>>171006554
>implying they aren't going to gut Dshift before the expansion to sell these new control cards
Enjoy Shadowverse ;)
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>>171006554
They really need a fucking opponent hand discard mechanic or a spell counter in this game so we can finally be cancer free.
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>>171006753
How long until they just remove dragon? It serves no purpose other than being the designated joke class
>>
New legendary dragon card!

10PP Broodmother
10/10 -> 12/12
Ward
At the end of your turn, summon 2 Dragon Egg
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>>171006751
Don't worry about what people say*

fucc
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>>171006849
>Dshift only exists to beat one deck type, control
>DSHIFT IS CANCER

i wonder who is behind this post
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>>171006753
They'll make some hilarious cards for dragon a few hours before the patch hits, no worries rowen
They'll have amazing synergy with imperial dragoon and phoenix roost
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>>171006889
>10PP draw 2 heal 4
I'd play it.
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>>171006889
Dies to DoD
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>>171006485
This is Amelia. The last image isn't part of the set, that's some different girl altogether.
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I can't remember the last time I see someone use Garuda leader in ranked. Did he die just like America's future under Trump?
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>>171006923
Yes, when one deck can fuck over an entire archetype with 0 interaction, it's a problem.
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>play against a dozen Darias in a row
>mfw im playing the most anti-aggro Dragoncraft list in existence so I destroy them every time

Thanks for the free wins, shitters

no idea why people play that garbage deck after the nerfs
>>
>>171006751
Yeah same, i got 2 right away and pulled a third shortly after. The big flame dudes have won me a bunch of games so far.
I'm sure the higher i get the less use i will get out of them but for now i'm like 37W-5L or something in ranked so i just stuck to it.
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>>171006709
>It's still a shit card no one will use.
Wrong. It's a win condition for Control Forest that doesn't rely on not playing cards or hoping there's something with 4 attack to ram Wolf into.

>How often does a dragon player win the game with urd + forte combo on turn 10?
That's a combo. This isn't.
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>>171004949
Until 1 PP 20/20 with fanfare banish every card on the opponent's side of the board is printed dragoncucks will never be happy.
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>>171006930
>Cygames forgot to make Dragon legos
>'Quick, intern-kun, design some Dragon Legendaries while we run a smoke screen and distract our players with eggs'
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Lmaooo I just had a seraph haven player try to goad me into quitting by pretending to have 3 countdown reductions for seraph( I had no Odin in hand) Turns out I called his bluff and won the next turn.
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>>171006618
Anyone?
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As a guy who made a csword list with the specific purpose of beating dhsitters, Roland is great.

Not like I'll get her from the packs, but still.
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>>171006986
>The last image isn't part of the set
Doesn't make the situation any better. She probably became their cockslut.
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>>171006990
Garuda is just practicing his freedom to take to the skies, a freedom that is not shared by our fellow minorities in this Republican-run United States.
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>>171004949

>next turn with 5PP
>will you play fervor?
>rahab is a sad 2/5
>play a 3PP or 4PP
>rahab eats the scraps and becomes 3/5 or 4/5

I don't know, anon. You tell me.
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>>171001960
Is it Roland or Laurent?
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>>171007053
>bad craft
>people state this
>WAAAAAAAH WHY DO YOU COMPLAIN SO MUCH
Stoicism is cool and all, but do you really expect people to not even discuss it?
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>>171007164
>As a guy who made a csword list with the specific purpose of beating dhsitters,

How did that work out?
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>>171007287
I win more than I lose, so it's okay.

Still, it's csword and bricks can happen.
>>
WHERE ARE THE DRAGON LEGENDARIES REEEEEEE
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>>171004949
It's a good card for saha ramp and comes before DoD is available if going first
It'll probably see play if they find space for it

It competes with dragon warrior and Siegfried though
However the guys who ran grim reaper will definitely replace that guy with rahab
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>>171007001
Post dick
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>>171007357
WHAT'S GOOD NIGGA?
>>
>>171007353
How the hell do you even manage to win before turn 8?

Let me guess, Albert.
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Zeus is such an underwhelming legendary for someone who's the sole "God" for this expansion.
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Dragon lego
10PP
13/13 15/15
Fanfare: Remove all other followers and amulets. Can't attack the enemy leader if 2 or more enemy followers are in play.
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I can finally realize my Control Forest dreams
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WHAT'S REALLY GOOD?
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>>171007285
We are supposed to pretend Rehab is this super amazing tarzan tier card when it's just a ward with stats on curve for its cost.
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FUCKING REMOVE SWORD FROM T2 ALREADY
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>>171004949
Actual dragon player here, this card just made the aggro matchup a 100% winrate. Doesnt fix the fact that neph is still autolose but if they dont give dragon any banish or khawy counter i think ill just run 3x odin.
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>>171006485
That's the girl from dark offering actually.

http://wiki.rageofbahamut.com/Savage_Priestess_Erika
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so guys, seraph is a legit deck right? I'm about to craft a second one. Which golds do I need btw? This is all I have atm.
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>>171007464
wait just a second
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>>171007269
Roland.
Durandal is a big giveaway.
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>>171007087
You can take a Glimmering out for another Fairy Beast or Maahes or whatever.
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Thanks Vampy!
>>171006804
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>>171007464
>not making it worse
Spotted the fake
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>>171007510
But that's green hair and the other girl has purple hair.
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>>171007357
Probably tomorrow.
Shadwverse channel live stream gonna do some ToG preview there.
I feel PV will come as well.
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>>171007497
>3x odin for 1 match up
I run 2 and I regret even running that many on some days
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>>171007464
>dragon
>ever getting a even or better version of a card that already exist
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>>171007206
She was probably already a cockslut to begin with, did you consider that?
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I like Rahab. Uses up extra mana which is actually kinda of an issue for Dragon. Does it fix it's problems? No, probably not. But this and the egg are decent stall tools that take advantage of having a spare 1-2 mana.
Now only if they introduce some cheap ramp that doesn't drain your hand.
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>>171007510
So that's what Erika is hiding from her Hime-sama.
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Imperisable Blade Durandal
Amulet - Commander
All allies cannot receive more than 4 damage at a time.

Great, now even Sword counters dragon. Even OTK dragon got hit by this it's ridiculous. Even Salamander's breath got cucked by one damage
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>>171007464
Dragon lego
10PP
130/10 12/12
Fanfare: Discard your hand. Remove all other followers and amulets. Can't attack the enemy leader if 2 or more enemy followers are in play.

Now this can be called dragon lego
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>>171007630
watch them show the runecraft legend and nothing dragon.
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>>171007574
How fun is this to play?
Interested in playing WolfBolt but I'm strapped for vials right now. I have a Tia and a Bolt but would need to craft the other legos.
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>>171007642
Odin will still be great for seraph and other control decks, but you might be right 2x should be enough.
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>>171005175
Daily reminder that Imperial Dragoon is a good dragon legendary because it counters Khawyshit, just think of it as a finisher, I cannot count the amount of times Imperial Dragoon has granted me victory over shadowshitters.
Though I play face dragon rather than ramp.
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Greetings friends, I just started playing this game after playing quite a bit of Hearthstone over the years and deciding it looks shit.

Is this game like HS in the sense that everyone netdecks and uses the same 4-5 decks, or is there actual variety?
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>>171007510
>first goes the hood
>then goes the cloak
>then goes the dress and the next thing you know she's fucking a goat

Remember kids, don't do religious cults.
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>>171007464
If Dragon got Bahamut....

>10PP 7/7
>Fanfare: Destroy all other followers and amulets. This card cannot attack the enemy leader.
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>>171007682
rahab and egg fixes the aggro matchup for ramp but dragonfags are either too retarded to notice, or they literally will not stop bitching until their deck wins against everything in the game. seriously at the start i felt kind of bad for you guys but you're becoming more obnoxious than the shadowfags in DE.
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>>171007771

B-but they love Sugita!
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that new sword leggo....
don't tell me sword isn't their pet class
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>>171007749
Salamander shouldn't be affected since it doesn't do the full 5 on a single target, but 3 + 2.
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>>171007819
I replaced satan for Imperial in my ramp and he makes for a great finisher. Satan usually sat there with no chance to be dropped ever.
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>>171007028
>It's a win condition for Control Forest
A deck that is already a shitty meme and capable of more than 10 face damage on turn 10. A deck that has no card draw so it can't find odins. A deck that has no board clear unless we are talking about shitty 1/1s on turn 5. The average game ends on turns 7-8 and for forest, it's even earlier. This card is just maahes 2.0 shitposting material. The only people who will hype this shit are people who don't even play forest and have no idea how to value cards.
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>>171007872
This post actually has a lot of truth to it, its just really frustrating literally auto losing to neph bullshit. Similar to control vs d shift
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>>171006753
>implying that dragoncraft uses neutrals for a dragon deck and not dragons for a neutral deck
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>>171007906
Cry more dragonfucks.

I honestly hope you get shitty legendaries.
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>>171007771
I want another sexy looking earthrite legendary like Pascale. It'd make me convert. How about that friend of hers in the bathing picture? Solar Dancer Lorea
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Please concede
59066
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How legit is this deck?

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/17-match-win-streak-master-rank-control-forestcraft-araki
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>>171003906
>two healing angels
Can you post full list, i'm curious.
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>>171007819
Imperial has anti-synergy with face and its main deck has pretty bad winrate. I mean the concept is nice, but it's not really relevant overall.
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Been playing about 2 weeks, did I did good /vg/?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSczPBZeNRc
At least upcoming anime looks decent
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>>171007856
There are the tier 1 cancer decks like d-shift( deck built around card that gives you an extra turn), but if you're not retarded you can pretty much make any deck work.
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>>171007796
It's alright? I'd honestly say hold off for now because the expansion might obsolete it.
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>>171007387
The 1x satan is just for a wincon against control
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>>171007856
>Is this game like HS in the sense that everyone netdecks
That's the fate of every online CCG sadly so yes. But it doesn't mean that making your own deck in not viable especially in the lower rank where you can play anything and still win.
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>>171008007
>only 2 tias
Trash
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>>171007945
>A deck that is already a shitty meme
Yeah, with the old cards, that's the point of new cards, to make new decks. Stop talking like a retard.
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>>171008054
>93 wins to B rank
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>>171007957
yes it sucks having to autolose to a deck but consider this: shadowfags have to deal with nep autolosing to seraph and you NEVER see them shitpost about it the way dragonfags do.
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>>171007872
Yeah, that 2 health 3-5 turns later is going to fix the aggro matchup alright.
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>>171008054
The grind start in rank A.
AA is even worse what the fuck.
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>only A and AA are full of try hard netdicks
>Once you hit masters people only play meme decks

What memes have you fallen for by /vg/?
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>>171008150
>shadowfags never crying about haven
HOLY SHIT HJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>171007442
Albert, Otomeme, Alwida... You can tech in CENTAUR FRUST too.
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>>171008150
>you NEVER see them shitpost about it
dude.
do you seriously just ignore the autist who complains about how op haven is for the past year.
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>>171007872
he hell for the eggs meme
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>>171008259
>>171008289
go post a screencap of the last nep player shitposting about seraph. go on.
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>>171008290
>turn 7 bellringer is good!
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>>171008257
>only A and AA are full of try hard netdicks
Said no one ever? Game is full of alts and smurfs.
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>dragon actually has the least revealed cards up to this point

I suppose it's a good thing. Look at blood and tell me Chaos Ship is any good (3 cards left).
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>when you play the long game as Havencraft and win with 1 HP and do a OHKO turn on the enemy
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>>171008150
>2578 nep
>autolose anything
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Feels so fucking good to be a Swordcraft user.

Go away Dragonbabs. You guys suck shit. Go fuck SahaLucifer or something.
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>>171008289
Why dont you lurk more reddit shadow autist
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>>171008259
This isn't DE anymore buddy.
Talk to me when Nep has the same play rate as Elana Seraph had and Dragon has only one playable deck.

Nep players fully accept that they cannot win against Seraph 99% of the time because of how their deck works.
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>>171007513

help pls
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>>171008380
You homos cried about losing Gobu, here's your alternative :^)
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>>171008140
Forest already has a gold that can deal 1 more damage a turn earlier and ignore wards.
Forest already has a gold that can deal 20+ damage if there are no wards present on turn 10.
It doesn't matter if they get a better version of fairy beast.
The new gold card is shit and no one will use it. It isn't overpowered at all.
>Stop talking like a retard
Stop actually being a retard.
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>>171008380
There is the crazy black swan level fluke that dragon ends up having insane cards that aren't revealed yet. But the trend so far is not looking good.
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>>171008026
I don't really have any other way of dealing high amounts of damage to an opponent hiding behind a strong taunt, multiple taunts (fucking triple zombie ward) or a khawys.
So because it counters Khawy (and taunt in general) it is worth using it and to me it is a good card since it fulfills its purpose as a finisher.

Sure its not Forte, but it is one of the better legendaries dragon has at the moment, you could never find an use for Dragon Flute.
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anons how bout dis


Mother egg memer dragon
5pp
4/5
Fanfare: Summon (1) Dragons Egg
At the start of your turn summon (1) Dragons egg


fk formatting

is draggo saved?
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST OPENED UP AN IMPERIAL DRAGOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I bet Rowen is abducting drunk women and feeds them eggs in his lair
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Holy shit when you Sexton a ghost and it dies instead of getting banished it screams "yada"
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>>171008475
Playrate does not matter at all, the game automatically pairs you with your deck counter after a set amount of games to artificially force a 50% win rate. This wouldnt be a problem if certain decks didnt completely win 80% of the time against other decks.
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>>171008567
unironically a good card
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>>171008580

Why are you doing this?
>>
A lot of people rage quitting on me today
What's up with that
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>>171008580
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>>171008415
More like autolose everything.
When you trying to do many things, you end up doing none of them well.
That potential Cerb+howl combo never actually work because you don't do enough damage early on most of the time.
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>>171008415
It still loses more than it wins against dickshift
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>>171008475
certainly nep has a better winrate vs seraph than ramp vs nep, doesn't it?
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>>171008517
>>171008380
Chaos Ship doesn't put the cards in your hand, it summons them ie plays them for free.
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>>171008575
OH MY FUCKING GOD I JUST OPENED UP A FUCKING ODIN AS WELL, AAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>171007860
>horns
The hint were always there.
>>
Just imagine, guys. Imagine if the scenario is reversed.

Dragon gets Forest Protector while Forest gets Rahab.

You can bet the thread would erupt with roaring.
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>dragoncraft will be good
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>>171008525
>Forest already has a gold that can deal 1 more damage a turn earlier and ignore wards.
ONLY if you keep a full hand and barely play any cards. Same with Roach, you need a specific sequence of cards.

Jungla bunga is unconditional. Your only set-up is to survive to turn 10. Comparing them is fucktarded.
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>>171008580
>lair
>just the basement of a 1 story apartment in the capitol
>GO AWAY MOM I'M FEEDING EGGS TO STRANGERS RIGHT NOW
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>>171008690
Maybe youre just unlucky.
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Sometimes I can't tell if you Dragon players are just memeing or are legitimately dumb. Like you guys do realize that the egg and Rahab are unironically good cards, right?
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>it's another "dragonbabies cry about anything" episode in /svg/
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>>171008354
Bell ringer doesn't heal you it's more like that haven spell that heals for 2 and draws a card but that one is 2pp instead of 1 for eggs, pretty good.
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>>171008714
Even better!
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>>171008880
>Egg
>Good
Yeah, /svg/ is full of D0s
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>>171008880

>Rahab
>while Forest Protector

Yeah, unironically good cards.
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>>171008817
Dragon already does well against aggro and will do even better with these new cards, dragon also does really well against control and has a better chance against d shift then control decks. Really the only thing holding dragon back is khawy right now. Dragon would be the best class in the game if it got a banish.
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>>171008928
It's actually pretty fantastic.
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>>171008708
If shadowlog is to be believed it has 25.2% winrate against Seraph last week and only 72.1% against ramp dragon.
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>"Leave Jungle protector to me" - wandering bard, Elta

What did she meant by it?
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>Forest keeps getting overpowered cards

Can't stop this dirty elf
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>>171008906
Heal 2, prevent 2, it's the same thing against most decks you'd want to use egg against
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>>171008525
Because Roach is doing so well now and will continue to do so in ToG which is full of wards.
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>>171008880
Holy fucking shit dude
No, an on curve ward is not a bad card
But guess what, it's not going to change fucking anything, dragon will still be meme after this expansion
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>>171008714
>>171008928
>>171008991

I can see it sending out a wolf without smacking you for 2 damage, but it's going to be hard to set it up.
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>>171008984
every single ward in the game is outclassed by either ancient elf or aurelia

are they all bad cards?
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>>171009121
This ward and dragon egg just made the aggro matchup way better, how will it not change anything?
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>dragonfags are calling a 2/5 ward you can play on turn 3 bad
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How do we save blood?
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>>171009178
Yes
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>>171008525
> Forest already has a gold that can deal 20+ damage if there are no wards present on turn 10.

did you read the text with your ass?

it is 10 damage
>>
New player here, how do Legendaries work? Can you only have 1 per deck, or can you actually put multiple legendaries in?
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>>171008728
>>171008575
Grats?
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>>171009178

What you don't get is that those two are legendaries. And we just got a reveal where both Dragon and Forest gets their Gold reveal.

And guess whose is much better.
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>>171009218
>you can play on turn 3 bad
only if you play "2pp do nothing" before it
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>>171009201
>He thinks the egg procs every turn
Kys
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>>171009218
>dragons always have ideal ramp!
>let's balance around that!
I found a Cygames employee everyone, is there anything you want to ask him about the game?
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>>171008880
>delayed Monastic Holy Water
>good
Rahab is pretty alright though.
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>>171008728
i have 3 odins what are they good for?
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>>171008880
sword aggro atm is lucky to dish out about 4-6 damage before turn 4, by then if you play 2-3 eggs on curve you will have already negated all of the damage they did to you would have enough mana to heal even more with saha luci or maybe gain control of the board with dragon warrior.

add to that some effective wards and you have a nice anti aggro formula

The only downside is that the meta will undoubtedly be more mid-range focused with dragon getting the best aggro card of the expansion, wind reader zell.
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>>171002148
Petrify and bounce the golem back my humble friend
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>>171009264
Thank you!
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>>171008987
>Dragon already does well against aggro

Nice meme
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>>171009178
Wrong. Both of those are outclassed by Khawy.
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>>171009009
Maybe you won't be the least played anymore lmao
>>
"Grimnir, War Cyclone" is actually a dragon lego, prove me wrong
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>>171009372
Forcing the D Shift player to petrify at that point is good, though, petrify can't be manacheated
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>>171009225
Blood is beyond saving.
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>control: the expansion

Can't wait for 30 turns matches
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TRAILER WHEN?
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>>171009282
>>171009316
you guys are fucking retarded holy shit. the card is decent even if you play it on curve turn 4, but the possibility of playing it on turn 3 makes it REALLY GOOD. by your logic ancient elf fucking sucks because if you dont play two fairies beforehand it's just an "on curve ward". holy shit dragonfags are THIS stupid
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>>171009256
Multiples
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>>171002124
Fuck off dumb nazi. Go kys since you couldn't even get rid of the jews.
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>Nep has 25-30% winrate against both Dshift and Seraph
>Dragon has 25-30% winrate only against Nep

It's 2 vs 1, Dragoncucks.
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>>171009241
That's Roach
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>>171009256
3 of any card
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>Rahab
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>>171009458
With all these board floods, Haven is finally back in t1.
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>>171009296
>At the start of your turn, restore 2 defense to your leader, draw a card
>At the start of your turn
Are you retarded?
>>
Remember when /svg/ called Draconic Fervor bad?
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>>171008880
Dragon is bad. It needs really good cards to catch up with the other crafts. It's getting mediocre cards. How is this hard to understand?
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>>171009463
Wait, hold on, let me get this straight... you think getting dragon oracle and playing it on turn 2 is as easy as playing 2 fairies as forest? Please clarify.
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>>171009448
vampy is cute, CUTE!
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>>171009537
Kys retarded esl
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>>171009218
>Dragon can play satan on turn 6, why do people say it's bad?
>>
GUYS GUYS

What if Dragon gets a 1PP ramp that discards a lowest cost card?
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>>171009487
You forgot nep neps other worst match up.
Dirt rune.
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>>171009561
This poster's age: 13yo
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>>171009463
if i dont ramp ill play dragon warrior not a shit ward
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>>171009218
Dude it's like AE but you're losing cards instead of gaining them lmao
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>>171009731
>ramp t1
>discard oracle
wooow
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>>171008880
>>Dragonfags actually think x card will be good
>half a thread later
>>Dragonfags actually think x card is bad
/svg/ in a nutshell.
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>>171009761
this poster's age: 7yo
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>>171009463
Woah wait a second
Did you just compare putting actual bodies on the board to playing a spell that quite literally does nothing?
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>>171009740

Good thing is Dirt Rune doesn't have any wincon.

>Pascale

Never happened to me before.
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>>171009770
This. If i'm going 2nd i'd rather just DW. First and i'd rather drop Goblinmount.
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>>171009731
Luxfang Kit
1 PP
2/1
Fanfare: Gain an empty play point orb.
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>>171009731
>turn 1 ramp
>discards your only 3 drop
>skip the next turn

H-HEAR!
>>
I think Forest Protector is very important for tempo forest because they normally run out of stream at turn 9-10 now they gave you the forest queen to heal back up then forest protector to finish the job
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>>171009825
That's right, shyboy. I'm a little girl.
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>>171008380
it's a shit
summons 1pp like post-nerf gobu

aggro blood needs a 3-4-5 pp storm follower without vengeance (and self-harm) effects, not that shit they try to promote - mastema, vlad, this shit ship
>>
Swordcraft is the best deck and Erika is so hot
>>
>>171009886
Confirmed new dragon card
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>>171009218
>1st turn pass
>2nd turn ramp
>3rd turn Rahab
>4th turn ramp
>5th turn Wyvern Cavalier
>6th turn 3pp roost -> 3pp roost -> ???
>7th turn DIE
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>>171009913
that is why you're cute, CUTE!
>>
2/5 are the best stats for 4 drops because they can't be killed by the common evolve followers when trading with them and, even when evolved and trading into a 2/X, they stay a 4/5. You faggots are fucking retarded.
>>
dragon players
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>>171009936
good taste
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>>171009984
dragonfags won't stop bitching until they get a 1 pp banish all cards your opponent controls. i thought it was just a meme but i'm starting to think it's actually true
>>
If the dragon legos are shit we need to start a dragon boycott
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>>171009976
This poster's status: Shota
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>>171009984
Man it really is a good thing the opponent didn't play any followers on the previous turns then eh
>>
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>>171009561
Neck yourself discordfag
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>>171010142
no need, megalorca deck will be 0t in next xpac
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>>171010246
YGO rippoff
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>>171010181
>opponent has to trade two followers to kill it
WOW SO BAD
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>>171010120
Post right now that Rehab is just as good or better than jungle protector.
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>>171010181
It's at the very least killing a 1 drop and forcing an evolve to deal with it.
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>dragonfags saying that a 1pp amulet that heals you for 2 everyturn is bad
>dragonfags saying that a 4pp 2/5 that gets stronger the more mana you have is bad
>still no legendaries revealed
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>>171010142
10 pp 1/1

fanfare: destroy all of your pp until you only have 1 left. Deal 1 damage to all enemies and discard 1 card from both players hands for each pp destroyed. Also summon a Megalorca.
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>>171010267
>anything I don't like is discord
is shitposting all you know?
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>>171009673
No eggs and early game.

Egg
Ramp
Ward
Fervor
Salamander breath or caliver
Satan
Bahamut then GG
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>>171010386
>dragonfags saying that a 1pp amulet that heals you for 2 everyturn is bad
Dumb ESL
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>>171010323
>Trade
>Implying this thing is going to kill anything with only 2 attack
Yeah okay buddy

This is like YURIUS IS OVERSTATTED GUIZE all over again
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>>171010386
This is good bait that will get many, many replies
It is bait... right?
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What deck should I play next expansion to capitalize on every control player running 16 different amulet destruction cards?

I want to exploit them having a bunch of essentially dead cards in their hand so Haven is out of the question.

I'm thinking D-Shift because it wins at turn 8 and runs 0 amulets it has no reliable board clears though so I am at risk of a shadow or blood board flood.
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>>171010386
>heals you for 2 everyturn
Amazing meme.
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>>171010386
>everyturn

Dude, kys
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>post yrw people are thinking Rahab is actually good and will stick and be useful
>in removalverse
>dragoncraft
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>>171010386
>>dragonfags saying that a 1pp amulet that heals you for 2 everyturn is bad
NOT EVERY TURN YOU FUCKING RETARD KILL YOURSELF
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>>171010450
Control Forest. Amulets aren't going to stop it.
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>>171010386
I guess every card is good if you can't read it.
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>>171009524
roach can do 20 damage on 7th turn if you got 2 elven princess mage evolved for 4 0pp fairies, play the 0pp fairies on the empty board, evo + trade one of the fairies and then play roach-natural guidance-roach-roach for exact 20

even easier on 8th
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>>171010120
>give every class better version of their cards
>give them shit cards because omg ramp so OP
Yeah fucking dragonfags how dare they
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>>171010386
>Retards say a 1 pp do nothing until turn 7 is good
>Retards say a 2/5 that requires you to skip turns to get stronger is good

>still no legendaries revealed
I can't wait for the next zirnitra/fafnir/flute/imperial
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>>171009961
>no eggs
>roost

Fuck off dumb fuck
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>>171010458
>>171010487
>>171010515
explain fags
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>>171010493
name a card that can remove a 2/5 on turn 3 without an evolve
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>>171010386
dragon cucks got so used to playing shit that now they think anything it's good, it's afecting their brain
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>>171010578
Wow, that's only like a 6 card combo. Good thing the main part is sear....
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17544
Concede please.
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>>171010624
It only heals you 2 and give you one card if overflow is active
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>>171010493
Followers with big bodies that do nothing are extremely good in shadowverse, everybody knows this... in fact they are so good that it's totally a mystery why dragon is struggling right now
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>>171010432
>>171010446
>>171010458
>>171010487
>>171010515
>>171010519
Remember when we thought that Reaper was a bad card and Nep was a meme? I member
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at this point I just learned to wait for the expansion to hit to make any harsh judgement about any card

there's not even speculation in this thread, just pure autism
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This game looks pretty interesting, as a Hearthstone player. What are the major differences between the two games?
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>>171010442
I don't know, how about 2hp followers?
Most 4pp evolves except Amelia have 4 attack and it will be tough to get through a 5hp unless they trade another 2/2 dude into it.
I guess dragon warrior and Levi can get through but then they can get through anything you throw at turn 4.
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>in one thread this general went from relatively peaceful to all out civil war
w-what h-happened?
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>>171010615
>1st turn egg
.
.
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>6th turn 3pp roost -> 3pp roost -> egg -> egg
>7th turn DIE
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>>171010780
>comparing to turn 7 bellringer to Nep and Reaper
I've never wanted to punch someone in the face in real life so much as I do right in this very moment
Seriously, though... will this ever end? It's not enough that we're playing a bad craft and give you free wins, you have to mock us for it? What did we ever do to you (besides give you rating)? Please, no bully. PLEASE.
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>>171010624
All effects only trigger once, when you reach overflow. Did you really think dragon was getting a better healing card than monastic holy water?
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>>171010801
>What are the major differences between the two games?
I don't play HS but I think the main difference is the evolve mechanic. And amulets too I guess?
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>>171010780
>Remember when we thought that Reaper was a bad card and Nep was a meme?
Neph IS a meme.
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>>171010780
>I only pretended to be retarded
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>>171010805
an evolved lyrial kills it and survives
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>>171010842
Dragon Falseflagger
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>>171010749
Thanks!
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>>171010801
Less random effects

Evolve mechanic lets you trade at turn 4/5/6 easier

Tons of high costs have weird win conditions (seraph, d-shift, satan)

Amulets

Actuall cute girls
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>>171010780
How does that even have anything to do with the fact that you can't read what egg does? Retard
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Vampy's 5head make her very susceptible to receiving head pats.
What can we do about this?
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>>171010386
Why can't you feed bakas?
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Control Sword is probably going to run 3 Alberto, 1-2 Tsubaki, 2 Gawain, 1-2 Roalnd and maybe still Aurelia. Better rev up those wallets.
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>>171010780
Yeah, I also remember a couple of retards fervently arguing that disco dragon would be good, how could it not with all the support it was getting?

Now the same group of retards are arguing again that dragon will finally be good because it got a turn 7 bellringer and a ward with on curve stats... which I guess is good for a dragon follower but still doesn't make it good compared to other crafts.
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>>171010842
Bullies started pretending dragon is "good". We may be spicy memers, but even we have pride. If you prick us, do we not bleed?
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>>171010865
>roost

Fuck off dumb swordcuck
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>>171010801
Evolve cards for effects. Less RNG overall. games tend to last shorter, instead of hearthstone where you lose health according to how man cards you draw, if you run out here you just lose. Cute cards.
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>>171010673
Lurching Corpse
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So who is usually responsible in choosing what cards to showcase for magazines?

Let's recap for a while
>on the same issue where Shadow got Immortal Thane, Dragon got Dragon Egg
>on the same issue where Neutral has Israfir, Dragon got Aqua Nereid (In case you forget, it's a 3PP 1/1 that spawns a Megalorca)
>in this issue where Forest gets tarzan, Dragon gets Rahab

I mean, out of the 3 revealed cards, Rahab is probably the most decent one, but were they trying to downplay the class or something by not showcasing anything good?
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>>171010801
1. less RNG
2. No random summons
3. low mana cost minions are weaker than HS but 8+ mana are much more impactful
4. much better chances to get epic/legos
5. much more gold, dust and packs
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>>171011096
Of course it's shadow
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>>171010801
Most effects aren't random
New mechanics
While Blizz was raising the price of packs, we got 8 packs for free
Just by starting the game now you'll get at least 40 free packs
Free stuff everyday, totaling out to about 14 packs worth of free things a month, just for logging in everyday, not even counting quests
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>>171011112
The simplest explanation is just that there ARE no good dragon cards to reveal, so their pick really don't matter. Occam's Razor, anon.
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>>171010894
>>171010978
Yeah, the Evolve mechanic seems pretty cool. So by the looks of it, I can Evolve one minion a turn, and they can attack another minion the turn I played them?
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>>171011013
d-did you mistake vampy and polyphonic roar? vampy has only 1 head
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>>171011096
Wasted an entire turn and traded its board to kill the ward, seems like it got its value.
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>>171011038
>tfw already have full set of control blood, sword, forest, saharamp, and haven

Feel good not being poor.
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>>171010842
Dragoncucks like to meme about their shitty poor situation and eggs so they get offended when shown that they aren't in such a bad position as they think they are.
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>>171009984
>2/5 are the best stats for 4 drops
A single evolved 2pp lyrial kills this while surviving
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>>171011210
RUSH lets minions attack on turn their are spawned, evolve gives them rush
STORM is charge
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>>171011118
>No random summons
I never played HS. If Daria and Neph aren't considered random summons by HS standards then what is?
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>>171010842

See what I mean? Falseflagger who doesn't even play dragon.

>>171011054
>>171011263
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>>171011284
>there is a card that counters mine
>it's shit

Dragoncuck mentality everyone. What happens if the opponent doesn't have lyrial?
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>>171011347
y-you can control the r-rng
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>>171011390
That's not even the same person, you great big moron. I'm one of those people, and I do play dragon (600+ in ranked in fact).
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>>171011347
There are worse than this
This card isn't limited by the cards in your deck, or even what class you're playing
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>>171011347
>Nep
>random

Only if you're a literal retard.
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>>171011234
I wanna rape Vampy
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>>171011347
literally cards that say "summon a x mana minion" and can pull every card in the game with that cost
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>>171011347
nep and daria can't summon anything that's not in your deck

the only pure random summons we have come from lotf and it's hot trash
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>>171011347
in HS random summons summon not from your deck but from pool OF ALL CARDS, your class or not. For example "Forbidden Shaping" - Spend all your Mana. Summon a random minion that costs that much.
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>>171011243
This. Nerf dragon
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>>171011347
>I never played HS
Daria and Neph are incredibly tame compared to the shit you see every other turn in HS.
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>>171011210
Yes, not only that but most followers get +2/2 when they get evolved. Some other followers have special effects triggered when after evolving too.

First player get 2 evolves starting at turn 5, second player gets 3 evolves starting at turn 4. There's a legendary called Dark Angel Olivia who can refill your evolves and gives you more 3 more.
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>>171011489
600? Post proof, i never seen a dragon adept here.
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>>171011408
>gold 4 drop
>countered by silver 2 drop
>WHAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THIS GARBAGE TIER COMMON CARD???
You gotta be kiddin'
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>>171011234
Yeah, 1 very large head that spans across official and fan art work.
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>>171011408
What happens if you don't have oracle on turn 2? What happens if you don't draw this by turn 4? What happens if the opponent actually has a 4 drop with more than 4 attack on evolve? Damn I can theorize imaginary matches too
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>>171011263
>Statistics are a meme

I bet you are a woman, what a loser
>>
how does the chandelier of prayer works with seraph if you have three on board? just destroy once? or 3 times?
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>>170988181
imp lancers are common in some cblood versions for a while
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Concede please
35061
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>>171002436
>Going 2nd
>t2 Yurius
>Tsukkome'd
>T3 Veight
>Whole Soul'd
>t4 Double Yurius
>Jeno + Tsukkome killed
>t4 Vampy + bloodkin
>Aurelia
>t4 blood wolf + Yurius
>Healing angel
It van get very onesided
I've finished games against aggrobats with full health
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>>171011263
We get offended when we get told that an on curve ward is TIER SSSSS+++++++++++ BEST CARD OF THIS REVEAL BY FAR, FUCK
>when shown that they aren't in such a bad position as they think they are.
Really? It's already the worst class. I don't know how we can pretend that it's worse than that.
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>>171005918
it's a relief she is not a slut like her sister
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>>171011615
I'll get bullied for my number of games without being in masters, but fine
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>>171011637
>Minthe
>a legendary 4 drop
>countered by a silver 2 drop

You gotta be kiddin me
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>>171011263
Please don't bully with Ding Dong.
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>not even Dshift will be safe from control
Are we approaching a Tier 0 meta?
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STAPH POSTING VAMPY, Fuckers!
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>forest gets a powercreeped genesis dragon with ward
NOT A PET CLASS THEY SAID
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>>171011726
only a loser would have no penis!
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>>171011862
>We get offended when we get told that an on curve ward is TIER SSSSS+++++++++++ BEST CARD OF THIS REVEAL BY FAR, FUCK
no one's saying that

dragoncucks are way too stupid to make an argument that's not a strawman, no wonder their winrates are trash
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>>171011726
Not him (or her), but dragonfags are annoying as shit. Your class has good cards and storm dragon has more than >53% winrate. Maybe if you cucks didn't play a meme archtype you would win more?

Also it gets tiresome hearing the same shit every thread.
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>>171011660
if you don't draw oracle on turn 2 then you just play rahab on curve...?
are you somehow implying playing a 2/5 ward on turn 4 is bad..?
>what happens if you don't draw this turn 4
this is such a retarded argument i can't even
"themis is a bad card, what if you don't draw it turn 6?"
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>>171012008
Holy fuck, I'll kill you.
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>>171011660
You're a fucking retard.
So you can theorize about the worst case scenario that can happen, but can't think of a good scenario?
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>>171011929
Dingdong is secretly a bitch to everyone but me
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>>171011862
>We get offended when we get told that an on curve ward is TIER SSSSS+++++++++++ BEST CARD OF THIS REVEAL BY FAR, FUCK
If this thing had 1/6 or 0/7 for stats these tards would still argue it's good because muh aggro
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Lmao Why Are You Still Crying About Dragon Like Nigga Just Play Another Class Hahahaha Like Just Play Forest Or Sword Hahahaha
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>>171011942
meantime d-shift got spellboostable healing... thankfully to the followers only
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>>171011309
Sorry, but I'm not seeing the difference between Rush and Storm.
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>>171011615
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>>171008012
Not really a good deck since I don't have a lot of blood cards.
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>>171012137
its literally all falseflaggers this general is full of autists. As an actual master dragon player im pretty happy about the cards we got so far. Cant wait for the leggos
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>>171012051
Your retarded argument is that this card will never be removed because the opponent may never have in hand one of the many, many cards that can remove it. There are more 4pp followers in this game than floral fencer and priest of the cuckgel you know
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>>171012214
rush is charge, but you cant go face (that turn)
storm is charge, and face is the place
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>>171012149

>everyone was making a commotion out of it
>followers only

They knew Rune is busted and can't allow to have more nice stuffs.
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>>171012214
Rush = can attack only other minions, yellow glow.

Storm = can attack either minions or leader, blue glow
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>>171011494
Yup, with an example of a 2 cost card being Doomsayer which is a 0/7 that kills all minions at the start of your turn, meaning that if the shredder drops a Doomsayer the entire board gets wiped

Or on the other side, Totem Golem which is a 3/4 (average 2 drops being a 3/2 in stats) just to show how much randomness can impact the game. Especially because this card was run in almost every deck for a while.
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>>171011726
They aren't. Storm dragon has positive winrates yet the vast majority insist on playing fucking ramp dragon because at some point some site conditioned them it's T1 and the moment you tell them to switch they start crying about the fact that they might lose to sword or Dorothy.
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How to get good at this game when you have the bottom of the barrel cards? I keep getting rekt by chinks.
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>>171012048
That's inflated by people reporting Storm Ramp losses as straight Ramp
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>>171012051
you have a higher chance to draw a card that you need by turn 6 than by turn 4

2/5 ward for 4pp is good but not something that very good, like cleric lancer is effectively a 4/6 ward for 5pp
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>>171012398
Just craft themis and include it into every deck
Bam insta pro
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>>171012398
Play aggro blood
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>>171012394
Maybe they want to use their actual cards? Face dragon is pretty much Forte and some commons. It's understandable that not everyone wants to run that.
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>>171012394
>Storm dragon has positive winrates
Reporting bias, you can't usually tell a dragon deck is storm until it wins. Same reason why wolf bolt is unpopular despite supposedly having a very high winrate.
>start crying about the fact that they might lose to sword or Dorothy.
Are we going to pretend now sword and daria aren't the most popular things on ladder right now?
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>>171008580
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>>171012398
Play Vampy or Garuda deck, those are cheap.
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>>171012048
>>171012394
>storm dragon

This deck is not real. It's literally a meme
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Which one
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>>171012319
if it was to all allies/the leader it would mean d-shift was safe vs aggro/midrange and could freely rule the game
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>>171012398
Open packs
>>
Swordcraft looks pretty interesting, how easy is it to build a decent deck for it as a new player? I have no packs outside of the ones you get for free, which is actually quite a lot.
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>>171011263
>during the expansion, get shit on for not being T1
>during reveals, get shit on because the revealed cards aren't broken as hell
>after reveals, it's because apparently everybody that has ever said the class was bad is a Dragon player and to fuck off because the cards aren't bad
Literally can't win with you people.
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>Tfw you play Atomeme on turn 4.
>They slay it and emote like a cocky nerd.
>Ceridwen on T5.

Atomeme is rapidly becoming my favourite deck.
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>>171012557
>their actual cards
>more than 50% of the ramp is neutral
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>>171012516
the point i'm trying to make is that calling a card bad because "what if you don't draw it when you need it" is fucking retarded

yes 2/5 ward for 4 pp is good but not amazing, but you can play this on turn 3 which DOES make it amazing, which makes this card GOOD
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>>171012630
The left one
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>Sentry
>5pp 4/5, conditional ward
>Lion of fuck you
>5pp 4/5 ward, 8/10 storm ward if played on 10 mana

>inv4 comparing bronze to gold
Khawy exists
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>>171012614
your a meme
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>>171012630
left
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Chaos Ship

Silver Bloodcraft Follower

5 PP 3/4

Fanfare : Summon a random follower that costs 2 play points or less from your deck. If Vengeance is active. Summon 2 random followers that costs 2 play points or less instead.


>If you're control, summon 2 Unicas
>If you're aggro, summon a Blood Wolf. Maybe 2 Wolves if you're against another aggro deck


Is this card completely crazy or is it just me?
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>>171010780
>spouting garbage south park memes
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>>171012596
>Are we going to pretend now sword and daria aren't the most popular things on ladder right now?

Then stop fucking bitching about losing to one deck that is not even the majority of the ladder. You want to win everything with one fucking deck.
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Now you've done it
You made forte sad

Apologize to her now anon

Storm ramp is a legit deck and has a good winrate
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>>171012857
Fanfares won't proc. It's not from hand.
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>>171012721
>he doesn't play urd + genesis dragon version
>playing saharamp at all
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>>171012829
>>171012780
Am i being memed on here?
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>>171012712
I wish I could run that deck as it seems very fun, but I don't even have enough vials for one Atomeme.
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>>171012897
>You want to win everything with one fucking deck.
I want dragon cards that aren't garbage.
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>>171012946
no
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>>171012805
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>>171012707
The only people who shat on your cards are you yourself because everybody else literally does not care what you get.
You love to meme about your shit with all those rowen reactions, forced shit memes like JO and now eggs. No wonder it got out of control.
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>>171012920
don't care, dragon is still a meme lad
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i'm fucking done, dragonfags used to be cool but now they just want to bitch and play the victim card whenever they want, i fucking hope your legendaries are meme tier again
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>>171012980
>this card is pretty good guys
>no its shit and unplayable, X class has a much better card!!

Then don't play dragon?
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>>171012929
Can you even read?
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>>171012857

If you are aggro, chance is you will be dropping 1-drops.

Dropping 2 Unica means you are dying anyway.
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>>171012857
aggro blood needs a fucking storm follower to fill the curve like sword has, not this shit

>If you're aggro, summon a Blood Wolf. Maybe 2 Wolves if you're against another aggro deck
summon 1 cursebrand vampire
maybe 2 cursebrand vampires...
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>>171013110
>original content and memes are bad
What the fuck is your problem? That's literally the only stuff keeping these threads afloat, it's way better than people just recounting their stories of laddering or arguing about balance.
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>>171012693
>>171012693
Sword deck isn't the cheapest but also not the more expensive.

Still, it's a follower based class and it's arguably the easiest one. Even with a budget deck you can do well to climb.

Sword also have extremely good legendaries cards, with most of them sans Alexander see play.
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Post 'em
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>>171012980
No. You want unreasonably OP cards.
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>>171013110
>You love to meme about your shit with all those rowen reactions, forced shit memes like JO and now eggs. No wonder it got out of control.
Are you trying to say that those cards are good?
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>>171013230

You need to show your rank too.
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eat the fucking eggs shinji

idk shit about eggs but here's some fresh shitty OC for you
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>>171012946
Why would you ask if you think people were lying to you?
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>>171013131
>i'm fucking done, *worst class*fags used to be cool but now they just want to bitch and play the victim card whenever they want, i fucking hope *worst class* legendaries are meme tier again (for the fourth time in a row)
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>>171013169
>You are dying

Well not anymore with 2 unicas :^)
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>>171013131
That's it. Friendship with luna and vampy is finished. Hag is dragon's best friend now
>>
>>171012885
>Donald Trump
>Telling reddit to go back
>tfw most of his supporters go on /r/trump in the first place
Yes, please do go back.
>>
Why does this game have so many lolis?
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>>171013131
>i fucking hope your legendaries are meme tier again
This. I hope it's all useless discard shit.
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>>171013275
Just post your score anon don't be shy
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>>171012857
>or less
Fuck this card would have been awesome if not for this bullshit.
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>>171013230
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>>171013250
I'm just saying that even people who think they are good, decent or don't really care will say they are bad to fit in with the recent "dragon is shit guys at least we have eggs r-right" memes.
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>>171013306

Next turn will feel so long, anon.

>teleports behind you and kill those unicorns

Nothing pursonal. Psshhh
>>
>>171012857
>If you're aggro, summon a Blood Wolf
blood runs more than 1 2drop
>>
>>171013247
An on curve ward is not on the same level as something like Jungle Protector no matter how much you insist otherwise.
>>
>>171012920
p-please impale me with your lance ma'am.. i'm sorry for whatever i did! forgive me!
>>
Turns out, three Tribunals is too much for Sun Satan.
>>
>Make a Control Forest
>mfw it legit shuts down aggro and even Daria

The game is basically over when your lion heals for 8.

Now if only the control match up wasn't such hot garbage... can't wait for Jungle Albert, my bros.
>>
>facing storm dragon
>my whole board is warded up
>all of a sudden he dragonewts into altered fate
>I lose
Yeah this is why I can't fucking stand unranked.
>>
>>171013297
>forth time in a row
>Forte is bad
>pre RoB Fafnir is bad
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>>171013424
You don't understand. Dragon players do not want to be bad. Humor is just our way of processing the pain. We joke about eggs because it's better than "well, every set so far has given us literally nothing that isn't neutral, and this set is more of the same".
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>>171013376
just dont play 1 drops in your deck, dumb aggro shitter
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>>171013336
>Half of US population is a redditor

Really makes you think
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I'm probably the only dragoncraft main who does not care about the upcoming cards, in fact I would prefer if dragon stayed the same as it is now.
Do you faggots want Dragon to turn into as cancerous as every other craft?

Dragoncraft must remain eternally pure, it is the only craft left that does not have any cancerous deck types.
Swordcraft is cancer
Runecraft has D-Shift cancer
Havencraft has Elena Seraph cancer
Forestcraft has roach
Shadowcraft has Neptits
Bloodcraft has aggro blood
Only Dragoncraft is free of cancer and it must remain so. Purity above all else.
Stop whining about the cards faggots and stfu.

Tldr: If Dragoncraft gets good legendaries, I quit.
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>>171013582
Half of the US population didn't even vote, let alone for him.
>>
>>171013110
You're just proving my point. Rewind a week and everybody will be saying that the class is shit because of memes, regardless of whether or not they actually play it. Now as soon as /svg/ gets a chance, they just turn it around to shit on the class even more.
>>
>>171013449
That's a case of forest being OP again, not dragon being shit because it's not like other classes got something like that too.

You've basically admitted you want OP shit.
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>>171013617
But people will call you cancer even if you have no good cards. You can't win in the "some idiots think something" game. You could win using nothing but valkyrie spear and neutrals and some guy would post, "WOW THIS IS TOTALLY UNFAIR, LOOK AT THIS NEUTRAL SHITTER".
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Alright /svg/, obviously we have a lot of retards here. Answer this question with a yes or no, no fucking ifs, ands, or buts.

Is a 10 mana 9999999/99999999 no effect a good card?
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>>171013617
tl;dr
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>>171013563
Zirnitra is unplayable, Fafnir is unplayable, Flute is unplayable, Imperial is unplayable, next
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>>171012857
>a higher cost nerfed goblin mage
>good
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>>171013617
>Do you faggots want Dragon to turn into as cancerous as every other craft?

I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>171013230
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>>171013617
>autism: the post
>>
>>171013729
>10 mana when Albert comes on 9
>dies to themis

No
>>
>playing through Story mode as Swordcraft
>Play Quickblade for the first time
>Think "holy fuck she's hot"
>Hear voice

oh no
>>
>>171013617
you won't be missed
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>>171011489
>>171011615
>>171012218
>>171011919
>implying that's bad
You fools do not know the meaning of true Cuckoldry.

Fuck dragon sucks cock.
>>
>>171013570
Real dragon players maybe. But there are also a lot of retards who just like to spout shitty memes all day.
Just look at the shitty unga meme that was literally forced by one retard spamming it over and over, and other idiots repeating it.
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>>171013731
i can see his/her crotch and they don't even wear any underwear *blush*
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>>171013729
yes its bad
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>>171013698
Jungla Bunga is not OP and it certainly won't be nerfed.
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>>171013729
I would have said it would be basically be a T2 good card that would be useless in constructed but with the new storm giving follower in dragon plus having cavalier, I would say it would be pretty good in dragon.
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>>171013617

I want to play Ramp-Bahamut-Satan-Roost and win games, is this so much to ask?
>>
>>171013858
That's some real Anthony Fantano shit right there
CUUUUUCK BOOOOIS
I'm so sorry anon, and I thought my dragon spirit was broken
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>>171013698
>classes with OP shit get more OP shit
>classes with bad cards gets okay cards
Yeah, no shit.
>>
>>171013853
nobody cares go back to plebbit please
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>>171013617
We get Zell.
I already made up a nice combo with him
Have nice cards.
Drop wildfang dragonewt and Zell first.
Then drop angel crusher and evo Zell for 18 face dmg.
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>>171013853
>not understading what an indirect democracy is

Fucking spics, I swear
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>>171013617
>everything I don't like is cancer: the post
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>>171013841
>Think "holy fuck she's hot"
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>>171013753
>nerfed goblin mage
>has a different, better effect than goblin mage
Oops!
>>
>>171013729
no, the only time you get to turn 10 is against control deck and they always have hard removal on hard.
>>
>>171013853
You have to go back Pancho
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>>171013972
>talk shit
>get btfo
>n-nobody cares

>>171014009
It means you're talking like a retard when you say someone has the support of "half the population" when you don't actually know what you're talking about. Unless you mean a symbolic half of the population, in which case you're only symbolically correct.
>>
>>171013997
meant to be nine cards.
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>>171013752
So it's actually only 2 times in a row then, not 4?
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I'm pretty sure if every craft is cancer that would mean that nothing is really cancerous then or at least the game balances it's self out since everyone is bullshit anyway.
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>>171013617
The definition of cuckoldry.
>>
>>171013729
You can get a 5PP 13/13 vanilla on turn 9.

Do people use that as a wincon often?
>>
>>171014095
After you,
>>>/r/thedonald
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>>171013970
But that is a problem for anyone except those classes, not just dragon.
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>>171014237
>Do people use that as a wincon often?
yeah
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>>171014109
>>talk shit
literally what, that's the first time i replied to you. or do you think it's impossible for more than one person to think you're a dip? nobody gives a shit about your shit opinions on politics
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>>171014149
>2/3 standards are unplayable
1
>Flute is unplayable
2
>Imperial is unplayable
3
>Potential ToG leggos
4

Four!
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>>171014053
>needing to be half dead on turn 5 to be good
LOL
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>>171014273
every class beside dragon gets OP cards
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>>171014336
What else is aggro blood playing turn 5?
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>>171013230
Probably as far as I go until next sleeves are revealed. Just gonna meme in unranked to level up other classes, I guess.
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>>171014413
woof+woof+BSHHEGH
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>>171013881
kys Discord shitter
>>
>>171014413
>ohh there sparkly
>wolf noises
>>
>>171014336
>Ignoring the text written at the beginning
You should stop right now before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
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>>171014340
Blood is struggling too, but not Dragon-tier.
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>>171014302
Geez white boy you really like to embarrass yourself. Please post a frog meme to raise your self esteem.
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ok since you dragonfags wont stop complaining, why dont you tell us what you want
what, in your eyes, does dragon need or deserve to have
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>>171014481
Or, you could just play the single card that still does 2 damage, without damaging you, and filters your draws, instead of needing 3 separate cards to spend all of your mana.
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>>171014540
not anymore...
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>>171014596
>what, in your eyes, does dragon need or deserve to have
Doesn't matter. We aren't Cygames, all that matters is what THEY'RE going to give us. Armchair card design is pointless.
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>Bahamut is trash
>Reaper is trash
>Gobu nerf is nothing, just drop 1cost
>Daria nerf is nothing
>Egg is trash, turn 3 2/5 ward is trash
Honestly /svg/ is pretty bad
>>
>>171014596
>what, in your eyes, does dragon need or deserve to have
Nothing, it's fine as it is.
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>>171014327
Fanfir was playable before RoB so I'll give you 1/3 but that doesn't even count as one because every class had unplayble legos except maybe sword

Fulte is a meme you can have 1

Imperial is a meme you can have 2

So yeah, I was wrong, it's potentially time in a row.

Guess what other class had more unplayable Legos before RoB? Rune.
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>>171014453
I'm sorry I only understand English and memes. Please talk to me with only one of those two things, thank you.
>>
>>171014596
If you draw the reaper, win the game amulet.
>>
>>171014596
Give me a 5 pp lego that steals 1 pp from my opponent and gives me 1 pp
>>
>>171014596
megalorca park
4pp amulet
at the start of your turn summon Megalorca with rush
>>
reminder not to reply to namefags and tripfags
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>>171014697
>it doesn't matter what they give us, I'm still gonna complain
fixed that for ya
>>
>>171013729
No.
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>>171014596
I want more eggs, but good eggs
>>
>>171014713
>/svg/ is one person
Jump off a cliff
>>
>>171014723
>Guess what other class had more unplayable Legos before RoB? Rune.

...merlin
>>
>>171014829
>I just want to bait the players of the worst class in the game
Could you get any more sad?
>>
>>171014713
>daria nerf is nothing
That's still correct though only reason why you see less Dariashit is because everyone was just teching against that deck.
>>
>>171014803
What about avatarkeks?
>>
>>171014803
kys esl
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>post yfw after you see the new dragon leddo
>>
>dragon gets zell hydra
>shadow gets minthe tyrant
>forest gets tarzan
Albert won't be a problem if you give it to everyone :^)
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>>171015084
:^)
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>>171015084
>>
>>171014579
>gets offended
>unironically uses being a white male as an insult/comeback
>i'm not even white

you defo need to go back to lebbit, dude.
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>>171015084
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>>171015084
>>
>>171014596
>Fanfare: Gain 10 filled play point orbs for this turn. At the end of your turn, take 20 damage.
HEAR
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>>171015084
I will just keep using Forte and storm cards without a care like before.
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>>171015084
>>
>>171014596
>fanfare: summon 5 eggs to your and your opponents board
>>
>>171015264
>t-Newfag.
>>
>>171015215
>gets offended
waow nice projecting fucko sorry i insulted your grandaddy trump who has to dope himself to keep his hair
>>
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>>171015084
>>
Started the game 3 days ago, take two matches me against masters 60% of the time.
>>
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>>171015525
And I get matched against beginner 60% of the time your point?
>>
>drumf faggots and upset beaners shit up another thread
Go back to your containment board
>>
>>171015525
Play ranked?
>>
>>171015112
The biggest problem with Albert lies is in how much Storm/Rush that class has. They're hitting your face from turn one, and can easily save evo points for Storm followers to chip you into lethal range and keep you there. Other classes don't have that.
>>
>>171013752
>>171014327
Zirnitra and Fafnir were great back when they came out. Hell Fafnir even has a 10/10 score on the Gamepress site from back then.
>>
>>171015695
>gamepress
>>
>>171014850
If we go by overall playability over the entirety of the game.

>sword
Everything was playable at some point
5/5

>rune
Mythril is shit. Pamela is a meme. Erasmus is shit.
2/5

>shadow
Atomeme is a meme. Pluto is a meme. Lotf was ok at some point but not anymore.
3/5

>elf
Fairy princess is the worst lego in the game. Rose queen is a meme.
3/5

>blood
Dominator and soul dealer never see play.
3/5

>haven
Skullfame is shit. Eidolon is shit. Jeanne is shit.
2/5

>Dragon
Zirnitria was shit. Flute was shit. Dragoon is a meme. Fafnir was playable at some point
2/5

Overall you aren't any worse than other classes. You are the least viable in lego count right now however.
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>>171015084
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>>171014596
1200 games on dragon here.

>a good legendary besides forte
we have 4 memes, for fuck's sake.

>more consistent ramping
You mulligan dragon oracle maybe 1/3 of the time and while rune can SB with any spell.

>an actual wincon/a big body that sticks.
Right now dragon is largely ramp to 10, then you got nothing. Drop baha and pray it sticks so you can finish with baha into dragoon. Or pull satan, but unlike G-sun there's no real synergy here. Genesis is an alright finisher but it's no Alberto. Forte-Urd is very powerful but requires 4 to 6 cards, in an already top-heavy deck. There's really no room unless you give up some stall cards, which just makes your early game more inconsistent.
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>>171015084
>>
HAHAHAHA

Dragonfuks are crying SOOOO bad.

I hope the legendaries that Dragon gets for ToG suck fucking ass.
>>
>>171015881
Wait, not games. Ranked wins on Dragon, I mean.
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>>171015084
>>
>>171015978
It's false-flagging.
>>
Can someone tell me what are the MOST essential Gold cards in a Seraph deck? I'm a newb with a small collection so I'm making a budget deck.
>>
>>171015883
what?
>>
>>171016209
3x themis
>>
>>171016209
Themis
>>
>>171016209
Themis by far, then Tribunal.
>>
new thread?
>>
>>171016209
Themis. Always Themis.
>>
>>171016276
>>171016293
>>171016320

Okay! I have one Tribunal, do I need more? And after those I can just fill in with silvers/bronzes and 2 Seraphs?
>>
I wanna have sex with Isabelle.
>>
>>171011726
Betting someone is a woman on svg while talking about statistics sure is silly.
>>
>>171016535
go back to being dead kyle
>>
>>171016459
You need 3 Tribunals and 3 Themis for Seraph.
>>
I wanna rape Luna
>>
>>171016591
Wew okay, I'll work on that then. Thank you!
>>
I want to fuck Furudo Erika
>>
>>171016459
2 Tribunals are fine if you're on a budget for now. I climbed to AA with a 2 tribunal seraph.
>>
will cerb still be viable after ToG?

I want to make an aggro shadow deck since a bunch of reapers dropped for me but I have no Cerberus. I wouldn't mind dusting the 48 eidolons I picked up from bahamut packs
>>
>>171016601
go back to being meme Rowen
>>
>>171012261
Did you literally not craft a single card for this?
>>
>>171016775
Probably?
I don't see a future where Cerberus is bad, she's been a consistent factor of aggro shadow ever since standard.
>>
where is the new thread

make it a dong thread too
>>
>>171016742
>wanting used goods and an original
>wanting fuck witches at all
>>
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stop playing nep edition pls
>>
>>171016723
Themis and Tribunal are great cards anyway and can fit in any haven deck, except maybe for Storm. So they are great value anyway.

In short, you can't go wrong with those 2 cards.
>>
NEW THREAD WHEN
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>>171017048
No.
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>>171004525
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>
>>171017079
Thanks!
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this is the last /svg/ thread guys

see you all in another life
>>
>>171017234
Don't worry. This life and the next are unchanging.
>>
>>171017234
It'stime to invade another general.
>>
>>171017335
>>171017335
>>171017335
>>
>>171016215
Donald is making a non-sequitur and Mickey is calling him out on his bullshit.
>>
Anybody got the jap text for Chandelier?
>>
>>171016870
Only the Vanias and the Vania Leader.
The rest is stuff I had from random draws.
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