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Urias edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

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>>170896360
unga bunga
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>A FUCKING FROG is a better ambush card than any of the actual ninjas
Explain this
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>>170896360
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>>170896431
>autismo is still avatarfagging
Really spellboosts my oglers
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>>170896469
Hey, it's less unga than "mid-range".
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who /Satan Elf/ here?
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>>170895365

had to go to reddit, guess it's faster to get dailies done there
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who else is screencapping all these hot opinions so we can laugh at how retarded svg is

my favorite

>competing spirit amulet will stop D-shift!
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Is Storm Haven meant to be played like an aggro deck or a midrange deck?
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>Competitive Spirit

Bronze Amulet

Neutral

3pp

Countdown (2)

As long as this Amulet is in play, followers on each side cannot attack the opposing leader as long as there are any attackable followers on the field.

>Elf Queen

Legendary Follower

Forestcraft

7pp 6/6

Fanfare: Restore defense to your leader by X. Then change your shadows to 0. X is the number of shadows.

>Zombie Party

Bronze Spell

Shadowcraft

2pp

Deal 3 damage to a follower.

Enhance (7): Then summon three Zombies.

>Garrett, Devil of Love

Gold Follower

Bloodcraft

2pp 2/2

If your enemy can target this follower with spells and effects, they must target it.

>Kariudon

Silver Follower

Havencraft

6pp 4/4

Rush.

Fanfare: Reduce one from all of your countdown amulets.

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Is aggro dead with this neutral amulet?
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>>170896443
Frogs are badasses
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>>170896431
Holy shit this autist
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>>170896543
My favourite one so far.
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>>170896331

you know the funny thing it's if this amulet works with aegis, and it likely does

it effectively gives haven an indestructible ward then

desu i think execution can gain a lot of popularity soon
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>Bloodcraft

ahah
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>>170896469
>GUYS CONTROL IS A MEME ALL DECKS ARE AGGRO WITH CONTROL ELEMENTS :^^^^^^^)
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>>170896443
sneeki-breeki
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>>170896360
>this triggers the bat
UNGA BUNGA
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>>170896551
Well RIP my aggro necro, it was legit a fun deck with Reapers. It's the only aggro deck that I found enjoyable to play, time to go back to Nep.
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>>170896551
The problem with competitive spirit is you're running what is essentially a dead card in a lot of matchups. I think that will be why it doesn't affect the game TOO much. If there was a reliable way to keep it around I'd say it would kill aggro. And you can probably still "outrace" it. They need to play it and enough creatures. That takes quite a bit of mana. Maybe some aggro decks will include a single execution instead of dance of death.
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>>170896485
>autismo
>really spellboosts my oglers
>autismo
unga
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>>170896551
>Garrett, Devil of Love
Should be a 3pp 3/4 desu
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>>170896540
You should've stayed there
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>>170896369
your post is so retarded i dunno what even to answer
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Fucking elves stealing our mechanic. REMOVE KNIFE EARS.
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I think competitive spirit will be more meta altering in how it fucks with control or mid-range decks that smash each other's face out of nowhere. Competitive spirit buttfucks stuff like the upcoming Zell combo, Forte, Genesis Dragon, Albert, etc.
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>>170896695
I really think you should take your medication
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>>170896665
That's just sword.
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>>170896741
Elves were a mistake.
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>>170896787
That's just meme yourself my meme man.
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>>170896443
bother to read ninja trainee's flavor text?

>To all the bums lookin' to swindle our village, hop on outta here, 'cause me and my frog-style ninja skills say different.
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>suffer a bad expansion which was only redeemed by a single bronze card in order to be rewarded in the next one

Our waiting paid off cinnamon-roll bros
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>>170896443
Frogs make the best ninjas.
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>>170896047
aegis has so much cancer/meme potential desu because of the retarded cygames wording is i mean what the fuck does cant get affected by card effect means? does it ignore ward? what about bane?

also
>Competitive spirit

oh boy
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>>170896769
execution into zell combo

>>170896842
>>suffer a bad expansion
he can't be serious
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>>170896741
Cry more. Elf queen will make forest t1 again.
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>>170896842
What are you talking about? Will I be able to play Forest in ranked again?
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>>170896842
>still no wincon to be seen
No more wolfbolt please. That will make deck even more expensive
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>>170896842
>elf
>suffer
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>>170896889
that sure as hell is not a frog
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>>170896443
>Doesn't get buffed by rogue's creed
It's shit
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>>170896936
It's literally a frogtaur.
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>>170896892
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>Introduce a lot of new bullshit Amulet
>Don't add more Amulet removal to counter it

What did Cygame mean by this????
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>>170896842
Eh I enjoyed memeing with Silver Bolt tbqh, it's obviously not as good as my previous PtP deck I played in DE but still fun.
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I'm getting sick and tired of all these blonde knife-ears.
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>>170896901
5 + 2 + whatever you are zelling
Too much mana, unless you consider waiting a turn to be a combo
Competitive spirit essentially reads "delay massive storm from hand for a turn" which could completely relegate certain types of control decks that rely on heavy storm damage from 1 or 2 creatures to the dustbin
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>>170896941
Just dont attack with it bro :^)
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>>170896915
>he doesn't know
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>>170896927
>>still no wincon to be seen

>roach isn't a wincon any more

actually that new amulet will make wolfbolt much stronger
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>>170896901
>2 neutral cards carry the entire craft
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>>170896959
what in tarnation is a frogtaur
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>>170896968
From the new ones only Grail is a last word amulet
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>>170897036
You mean roach carrying the entire craft?
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>>170896468
the fuckers who spam that right before winning rank right up there with the erikafucks who spam 'you have breathed your last'
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>>170896975
>an old fart as Baalt gets to fuck this everyday
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I can't wait for the new expansion to come out to see you cucks were all wrong as usual.
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>>170896915
Forest is one of the best crafts right now in ranked, I'm sorry you need 70% winrate to play something
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>>170896975
is she the mother of lionel/waifu of baalt?

>>170896968
this card
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Someone mentioned in one of the earlier threads that flame and glass was censored in the western release. Could I have a picture of the originals?
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>>170896545
Use evolve points and Cudgel/Lion/Reno to clear the board. Hit face with the birds.
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>>170897129
Competitive Spirit is 3PP
Execution is 5PP

Rip
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Reminder that the Japanese for Competitive Spirit has a tag that involves new followers coming into play, so the effect will most likely activate on the followers rather than the leaders, meaning that Aegis will most likely be able to hit face for those 2 turns while everything else has to sit there and watch.
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>>170897009
Dont know what? Tell me, what does she do?
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>>170897115
Baalt is more of a man than you will ever be too bad their son is a fag
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>>170897115
>baalt
>old fart

everybody with a beard is an old fart :^)

elves don't even age btw
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>>170897116
>everyone is stupid but me
Let's hear your meta analysis then
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>>170897014
I mean other than roach + bolt
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>>170897204
She heals you for the amount of shadows you have.
The only card that can potentially heal from 1 to 20.
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>>170897192
well, not like bahamut doesn't exist
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>>170896551
>pushing non ptp control forest and more anti aggro decks
I feel like dshift is completely under cygames radar. They probably think it is 100% okay just because it's win rates are low.
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>>170897116
Do tell us your hot opinions so we can screencap you too
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>>170897207
>His wife and daughter both are Legend
>Himself is Silver tier

Moar like King of cuck amirite?
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>>170897150
It was censored in both all versions of Shadowverse including the Japanese one. Google "flame Rage of Bahamut" to find the uncensored art with chains.
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>>170897256
Bloody Mary combo blood will be the new shit
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>>170897052
You know how a centaur is a dude slapped onto a horse torso? A frogtaur is the same thing but replace the horse part with a frog.
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WHO HYPE FOR /AEGIS/ HERE

ELANA T1 AGAIN SOON BOYS
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>>170897192
>Reminder that the Japanese for Competitive Spirit has a tag that involves new followers coming into play
So basically every enemy follower played before Haven wasted her turn 9 will still be able to ignore Aegis.
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>tree fuckers are still crying over a 3 mana bronze card being nerfed
Boo fucking hoo you can't consistently otk at turn 7 anymore what a fucking disaster.
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>>170897327
that sounds ungodly
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>>170897301
I wish their daughter was viable
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>pictures live out of hell
Is there a worse death?
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>>170897378
go fuck yourself you fucking shitter
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>>170897276
so another fairy beast basically?
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> Garrett, Devil of Love

blood is getting its inferior shitty version of timeless bitch... ew

>>170897301
>fairy princess
>daughter of the king of fucking elves

what did he mean by that
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>>170897323
>Cblood cucks

im so sorry

>>170897349
the card also have while this amulet is in play effect

i mean why the fuck would the give it a countdown then
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To the shitter complaining about Storm Haven not getting anything, a new Rush unit was just revealed that reduces the countdown of all enemy amulets by one
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>>170897419
t.roachcuck
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>>170897301
I like how father and son have names but mother and daughter don't.
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>>170897323
Which combo, Azzazel+Mary combo on turn 10 with Baphomet?

The combo which doesn't one shot unless you're at exactly 20 health?
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>>170897115
>tfw she gave birth to turbo faggot Lionel
He should at least went mommy complex
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>>170897301
Titania is gold.
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>>170896545
Aggro.
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>>170897450
>6 cost

its not like the 6pp slot is already packed with bunny/garuda/valhallan or anything
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>>170897334
Me. I can't wait for shadowtards crying here about haven being cancer again.
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>>170897397
It also turns into a buddha.
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>>170897450
*one from all your amulets
I'm stupid
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>>170897419
Have you ever been THIS entitled in a card game before?
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>>170897469
so misogynist, so wow

triggered!
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>>170897178
There are amulet removals for almost every craft
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not gonna lie this general is pretty enjoyable when you don't know shit abt the game
anyways how should i build shadow control? all i know is you need 3 cerberus.
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>>170897480
Baphomet + Azazel + Laura + Razory Claw is a better combo
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>>170897334
OY VEY ITS LIKE ANUDDAH SHOA

REMEMBER THE 6 GORILLION BANISHED FOLLOWERS
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>>170897296
>screencap you
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>>170897534
>only shadow will cry about cards that have nothing to do with banish

Already revving up that damage control I see.
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>>170897178
Just swords to woodlands it bro
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That elf queen is Titania right?
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>>170897584
(You) (You) (You) (You) (You)

(You)
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>>170897506
>turbo faggot Lionel
>gets to fuck multiple of this every day
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>>170897480
Never said otk, just combo, going for the otk would be highly inefficient. Bloody Mary only needs to be a finisher and blood has plenty of cards to deal face damage before she even comes out.
The only reason Bloody Mary was mediocre and unreliable was because you couldn't gurantee that you would have her in your hand and was a relatively high cost, Baphomet changes all of this, its pretty much the Goblin Mage to Bloody Mary.
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>>170897604
screencap (you)
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>>170897649
Titania is the Fairy Queen, not an elf.
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>>170897401
That's fairy princess you dork. He's an elf king.

The only elf princess we have is Elven princess mage.
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>>170897687
Are you retarded
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we're almost getting to /gbfg/ level of autistic im so proud of you guys
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>Heavenly Aegis + Competitive Spirit
>Haven immediately wins by turn 10 when combined with elana seraph, or even just elana on its own
Loki better do some Stat changing trickery and be the chemo to the incoming cancer like Odin was for seraph
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>>170897750
great britain food general
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>>170897587
>3 (THREE) very specific card combo
Gee, i wonder how that will work out anon
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>shadow get 2pp 2/2 that can destroy evolved enemy follower just for 4 shadows
>we get this fucking trash

Totally NOT biased at all.
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>>170897769
>implying there will be chemo
Just get used to your autowin overlords
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>>170897687
What is Baphomet?
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>>170897769
>Loki

What Loki?
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>>170897721
Ah your right, always mix them up.
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>>170897731
>Elven princess mage
what does it even mean, if she is an elven princess who is a mage or she is a personal mage of the elven princess?
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>>170897769
seraph is chemo though and so is havencraft
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>>170897750
Thanks, I'm trying to improve everyday.
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>>170897750
The word ''cuck'' should be fucking banned
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>>170897769
But anon, Haven IS the chemo. At least that what delusional haven shitters say.
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>>170897869
senpai
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>>170897869
Blame hiroshima for not leaving up the filter
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>>170897797
tfw
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>>170897587
>turn 10 4-card specific combo that gets cock-blocked by a single ward

I really don't see that being strong at all

>>170897687
>Baphomet pull bloody mary

Expansion isn't even out yet and we can already screencap your post and mock you.
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>>170897797
at least its not haven tier gold
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>>170897797
He's really strong Control Support though
Think about situations like where you want to remove something (ie Odin on a servant of darkness, DoD on a ward, etc.) but this faggot is on the board.
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>>170897815
The former
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>>170897797
>Protect your leader from burn spells
>Get cucked by piercing rune anyway
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>played this game for three days and already making fanart

havencraft has all the adorable animal bros right?
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Say what you want about swordshitters but at least they aren't fucking crybabies like forestcucks or shadowbabs. When sword was considered "dead" because Otohime became shit you never say the amount of complaining you see from the forest and shadow guys. Dragoncucks complain as well but at least it's fucking ironic and they've got every right to complain unironically.
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Will Bloodshitter ever stop crying?

I swear they really cannot fucking stop, no matter what thay do.
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>>170897813
Is it just Zeus and Thor? Coulda sworn I heard Loki was showing up in ToG
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>when they have the perfect combination of spells to clear multiple wards AND play daria and an entire board
Playing against Daria really feels like just hoping they don't have a good hand
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>>170897972
cute!
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>>170897797
>just 4 shadows

I would never want to use her ability before turn 6 because I'd rather save those shadows for Death's Breath or Tempest.
At least that dude can potentially protect your mary or something from target removal.
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>>170897797
>trash
it'll be an auto include in control blood unlike those shitty hydras
also:
>situational waist of shadows
>situational waist of shadows when 2pp 4 damage exists
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>>170897984
why would sword nigs even complain when they literally got the most broken legendary in the game
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>>170897972
Do some Mordecai vs Aegis
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>>170897797
>get a 2pp pseudo-ward that cockblocks spells
>complain

You faggots can't even begin to analyze good cards.
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>Zombie Party
>Garyudon
>Garrett, Love Devil
>Fairy Queen
>Contest of Strength

>pic-related is just a bronze

Eh, not like we care about balance in T2, right?
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>>170898026
It were speculations based on the banner dude with spear and raven who's been figured out to be Black Deathscythe Knight probably the second sword lego.
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>>170898064
>Let's do this right.
I can dig it, seconding this request
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>>170898136
Elf Queen doesn't have Ward.
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>>170897909
this is a vanilla 4 drop
that gold card is a vanilla 2 drop which makes it much better without even thinking about the added effects
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>>170898058
Nobody thought that when Roach was Rampant though. All the bitching and complaing about Albert happened after gobu got nerfed. Just goes to show how much /svg/ are fucking slaves to the meta.
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>>170898097
a 2/2 "ward" that doesn't even protect the leader from the enemy followers, also leaves no fun making them unable to attack your leader in vain like with timeless witch

it's only good quality that it protects other followers from dod
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>>170898169
It won't be. He's just filthy nameless S rare in RoB. Gold at best. He can be shadow/blood card too.
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>>170898136
>2PP for 3 damage
Same level as Blacken Scripture
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>>170898263
>people will still complain about Albert when he becomes Sword filler in the future
"people", more like shitters
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Confess your sin, /svg/
I'm a Discard memester and I hope Dragon get more Discard lego and support.
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>>170898136
give me the lips!
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>>170897984
>implying people weren't constantly complaining about Otohime being dead and salty swordshitters didn't try to coin the term "removalverse" in response to decks getting a counter to the card
>implying it's anyone else' fault that swordniggers couldn't come up with a meta-deck early expansion until someone else created it for them so they could netdeck and unga like usual
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>>170898050
She kill full health Albert/Imp Lancer. 4 shadow is a cheap price for that.
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>>170898302
Kamura tier Shadow silver then, please.
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Is shorte ready for her daily dicking?
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>>170897972
Are taking requests? Can you redraw this with Eris?
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>>170898319
I play DARIA
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Anyone else worried about the upcoming meta after this reveal?

The neutral amulet will completely destroy aggro decks, so who the hell is going to deal with dshift?
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>>170898401
inb4 Baha into Forte
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>>170897984
this is ironic right?

even after they stopped crying they still come out of the woodwork to damage control their broken ungacraft's 60% win ratio
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>>170898401
leave waifus alone you cunt
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>>170898401
>drops bahamut
>you can't remove it
>double dragon dicked by genesis/forte next turn
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So as a complete fucking noob. What "hero" or whatever should I focus on?
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>>170898518
>trading albert instead of just going unga bunga attack face

youre not a true sword player
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>>170898348
the lips?
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>>170898319
My favorite deck is Dshift and Seraph
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>>170898558
depends on your roll

post your legendaries and golds
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>>170897984
Funny, I've seen bunch of ungacraft players crying because of Daria in early days of expansion.
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>>170897984
t. swordnigger
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>>170897984
Swordcucks took the fact that other people can potentially have a 1 for 1 answer to their turn 6 potential "wincon" they started compiling lists of what can remove Otohime an being general drama queens calling the game removalverse.
They couldn't complain about anything else because they still had very good cards overall.

Most current Albert shitters are former Roachfags anyway.
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Fucking Blood retards
>LMAO let me flood the board with everything I do
>LMAO rune-ter reach
>wards? dance of skill XD
You deserve fucking nothing. Im also glad ToG is killing aggro.
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>>170898602
Albert can't kill bahamut I have no idea what you're talking about. And if he would go face with Albert he loses to a genesis dragon/Forte which is what I was pointing out.

Either way he probably lucked out and the dragon player didn't have a bahamut.
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>>170898756
I don't have money to play control...
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>Lunacraft will have 4 vier four å›› board floods tied to the class in next meta
>even with the rumor rotation, 3 of the board floods will be staying for a long time

It's a good time to be a Shadow player
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>Cygames saving Dragon legendaries for last
They have to be something good right?
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>>170898319
I shitpost with Eris but Haven is my third most played craft. Shadow is my most played.
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>>170898468
>T3 ambush sword frog
>T4 cuck amulet
>T5 cyclone blade
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>>170898474
>>170898496
>>170898518
Sorry anons, but you must understand dumb whores like her can't beat the dick. chorus: No they can't
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>>170897984
Unga Bunga me hit face
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>>170898319
I main Elf
and dragon
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>>170898064
>Aegis
Wow, what a cool looking dude. I'll see what I can do!
>>170898034
thanks!
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>>170898654
Are you me?
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>>170898756
Replace "Blood" with "Sword" and it fits perfectly
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>>170898847
>even with the rumor rotation
What are you talking about
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>>170898319
i play havencraft exclusively from standard to ROB until that one time i accidentally did my aggro blood dailies in ranked while shitting
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>>170898881
Are you autistic?
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Why Aggro deck suddenly get so much hate?
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>>170898945

There are rumors from last year about cygames rotating older expansions so that the meta will not be over reliant of old stuffs all the time.
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Need a concede.
59325.
Thanks.
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>>170898919
Not really because sword is midrange, not aggro :^)
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>>170898985
Pic
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>Bahamut prevents PtP forest from being the cancer it once was.

is there anything my based dragon bro can't do?
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>>170899103
Yeah, win on a semi-regular basis.
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>>170899051
its only unga sword

shadow and blood is fine because they needed some setup to unga your face while sword can easily tutor le turn 9 10 damage man
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>wanted to craft that last albert and unga up ranked
>nah just wait until more leaks are released
>7 mana 6/6 - heal all your hp back
>3 mana amulet - no bunga for 2 turns straight
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>>170899103
AEGIS
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>>170899054
That only concerned a tournament.
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>>170899054
>no Seraph
>no Odin
>no Olivia
>no Tia

I find it hard to believe desu.
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>>170898468
>currently aggro-verse right now
>d-shift still see play to beat control decks despite getting it's ass-kicked by the rampant aggro
>acts like the reverse wouldn't be true if d-shift was ever popular
>aggro-cucks """possibly""" at a disadvantage for once
>"REEEE THE SKY IS FALLLING"

Aggro will always have a chance against control because control bricks, and control can do almost nothing to stop storm and other kinds of non-interactive damage.

If d-shift ever becomes relevant, then everyone just plays aggro to fuck them over. Ranked will always be filled with aggro because it climbs faster.
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>Forest gets a massive heal lego.

CONTROL FOREST IS UPON US!
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>>170899103

Harsh answer? This dude.
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>>170899147
>shadow is fine
I'd rather face sword
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With all those reveals today, I'm pretty sure the game will be completely changed when ToG hits. I'm scared.
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>>170899150
>tfw crafted 2 Alberts yesterday even though I don't play sword at all and find the whole class boring to tears.
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>>170899234
its shit desu
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>>170899054
I really hope they don't do this it just doesn't make any sense to have cards an not be able to use them in the the only mode that matters.
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>>170899246
Who is that beatiful lady
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>>170899259
are you ready for aegis anal rape anon
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>>170899259
The only thing that will not change is Dshift going away. We're stuck with this cancer forever.
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>>170899234
>Heal to full
>Dshift kills you anyway
It's shit
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>>170899269
Why would you do that, especially right before expansion?
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>neutral is 3 cards away from full reveal
>blood and shadow is 4 cards away

Damn, this is faster than I thought. Let's hope Blood gets good stuff from that last 4. I'm rather content with Shadow so far.
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What's the wincon for Control Forest?
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>>170898861
>Cygames hasn't revealed the dragon legends yet because they forgot to make them
>an intern is hurriedly scribbling some discard memes right now
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What happens when both sides have that neutral amulet and two aegis's or Mordecai or anything unkillable?
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>>170898680
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>>170899467
The usual

Forest will never get a card as good as roach again
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>>170899467
Take your pick? They already have several
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>>170899506
Aegis just goes face
Mordecai continues to duel the undamageable divine armor
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>>170899201
>he thought I was defending aggro
Aggro is retarded, but it's not as retarded as dshift.

My concern is that there will be fewer aggro players due to this new amulet, and thus 40-60% of games will be against dshift.
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>>170899467

Duh.
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>>170899506
>What happens when both sides have that neutral amulet and two aegis's or Mordecai or anything unkillable?

It's becoming a Trench Warfare anon, just wait till all amulet pops
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>>170899467
Just bolt it up, senpai
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>>170899608
How is this card not a legendary?
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>>170898680
I'm pretty well off irl, Am I so fucked I should just cash out on a lot of packs?
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>>170899467
With all the healing Forest has, 2nd forest lego will be pic related, but with health restored instead of max health.
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>>170899437
I was so fucking annoyed by fishing for sword dailies with a shit made aggro sword deck I just did it.
Well, it's a card that will forever be good anyway and if they nerf it I'll get my shit back.
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>>170899608
How big is Roach?
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Are thou ready for the expansion
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>>170899467
Satan
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Is cheated out early Maelstrom + Competitive Spirit a possible blood counter to D Shift?
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>LOLOLO THIS CARD IS BAD BECAUSE X PP DO NOTHING
>LOLOLO DIES TO AGGRO
>LOLOLO DIES TO DSHIFT
>LOLOLO UNRELIABLE COMBO
>LOLOLO REQUIRES X OTHER CARD
>LOLOLO THEMIS KILLS IT
>LOLOLO DOD KILLS IT
>LOLOLO BAHAMUT KILLS IT
If it was up to /svg/ cygames would just print albert clones all day
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>>170899085
I remember that.
My condolences.
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Concede please. Or if you have the time, I'd appreciate a full win, I'll just go Blood unga.

88570
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>>170899713
almost 7k gold and 15k vials here
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>>170899649
Wait for the expansion and see if the meta changes to spend money on any packs.
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>>170899467
The usual shit that has been going on lately.
Roach+bolt
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If I have one Seraph and one Daria which should I try to craft a second copy of to make a deck? Also should I spend my rupees on Standard or Bahamut packs?
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>>170899739
>Albert

Cucked by 3 pp amulet now, shit card desu
>>
Zombie Party > Pact of the Nethergod > Soul Hunt > Deathbrand > Undying Resentment > shit > Deadly Grasp

I think this is how single removal priority goes for me in ToG. The chance to crank out 3 Zombies on turn 7 is just too much to ignore.
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Based Urd forte combo and him going unga and ignoring my odin and Dragon warrior.
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>>170899452
I still had my hope up on those last cards, i mean cards like Yurius with such good value is a bronze card

There's still hope, bloodkins!
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>>170899713
5300 rupies
30k6 vials
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I want to protect that smile.
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Wouldn't the new cards force aggro to go more full retard?
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>>170899739
>Dies to removal
>Banished by Odin
>Tempo loss
>Arena filler
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>>170899804
Spend on bahamut packs since you'll get enough standard from achievements/dailies and such.
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>>170899846
>draconification

Nice
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>next turn is turn 9 for the lesbomaid and she has 1 evo point saved
>drop Competitive Spirit
>'I should have forseen this'
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>>170899467
Control-Satan-Wolf memes. Turn 8, proc wolf, draw 0 cost bolt. Turn 9 play all your healings, wards, whatnot. Turn 10 play Satan. Turn 11~ survive. The moment you draw astaroth, you instantly win unless the opponent has timeless witch or that new 2pp blood card. But you can just Dis them anyway.
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New leaked card

Draconic Fury
Dragon silver
2pp amulet
All followers who get into play gain storm
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>tfw best non legend havencraft card revealed so far is 3pp neutral bronze amulet

so this is how dragon player feels like
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>Elf Queen + Fairy Beast
FUCKING TREE COONS
>>
You can't turn Aegis into a pseudo ward using competitive spirit. It's true that it's the enemy followers that receive the effect from it, but it's still an effect they now have as a passive, and Aegis doesn't interact with effects.
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>>170899941
Does a card lose its ability to attack that turn when its turned into a dragon?
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>>170899150
elven queen might be worse than fairy beast, beast comes one turn earlier, can be freely bounced and easily heals for about 6 if not 8 every time you play it

forest also has mangrove btw
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>>170899989
>turn 7 this into turn 8 Serpent
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>>170899845
desu Minthe+Deadly Grasp is the only combo I'm excited for so far.
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>>170899941
gotta have something against those pesky Khawys and morde so I dont have to rely on only fucking Odin that is always no show when I need him.
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>>170900028
That new legend is nice for Elana too
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>>170900028
Fuck you havenscum. You already got many overpowered card for next xpac

kys
>>
Will every ungas drop DoD and run Execution instead now?
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>>170900068
Yes. It works as a pseudo banish though against Khawys and Morde
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>>170900067
Yes and the effect enemy followers get is:cant attack face if an attackable enemy follower is in play. Aegis is attackable.
On the other hand Aegis doesnt give a shit what the amulet tells him to do
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>>170899989
>all followers

So enemy ones too? top kek
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>>170899872
All shadow players finally got bullied out by storm and Dshift?
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>>170900150
Yeah, knew about that. Seems kind of meh to me. Yeah, you get rid of perma Morde, but it's still a big tempo loss where they'll probably still kill you. You trade Morde for another 5/5 and they probably have a board with Nep and whatever.
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so how to counter aegis+contest of strength combo? this shit sounds broken as fuck

>make aegis cannot gt sun guardians ward
>print 3pp amulet that gavepseudo ward for aegis in the same exopansion
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>>170899846
yet another "the guy who went first loses because he has 1 evolve less" momposting
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>>170900221
Destroy the amulet and finish the game before aegis hits your face hard enough
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>>170900221

How about beating them before turn 9?

>just execute bro
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>>170900221
IT'S NOT AFFECTED BY ANYTHING BUT STAT CHANGES YOU FUCKING RETARDED MORON HOLY SHIT FUCK YOU
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>>170900221

its a countdown amulet.
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>>170900119
N-no haven is b-bad. Muh turn 9 do nothing. Muh 45% overall winrates because of shit decks like storm and Sun. Seraph is a honest deck haven is chemo.
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>>170900209
Yes. But also you can use it on your lower pp followers that are useless in late game and you dont have anything better to use.
Like Dragon warrior if you are out of evo points, Unica or imprisioned dragon to make them into something more useful.
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>>170900290

it doesn't affect ageism but every other minion instead retard.
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>>170900290
BUT YOU ARE AFFECTED BY EVERYTHING INCLUDING STAT CHANGES YOU FUCKING RETARDED MORON HOLY SHIT FUCK YOU
>>
>>170900290
Aegis is not but other followers are.
They have to wait or suicide to aegis while aegis freely hit face or any ward you put in
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>>170900290
Meaning that while the amulet is in play it can ignore opponent's followers to hit face while they can only hit Aegis. And both players have Aegis in play they both just hit face
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>>170900243
>unga sword.
>giving a shit if it goes first or 2nd.
>>
So, they are trying very hard to kill aggro but at the same time they introduce something control can't deal with? We Havenverse again?
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>>170900290
that new amulet affect both sides, that just mean aegis can smack your face while your follower can only attack him

>>170900303
2 turn is already enough , the main concern people have at the start of aegis leak is how people can just storm your shit t9. this amulet+timed removal amulet can secure your board until turn 10
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>>170900221
People are exaggerating how good this combo is (assuming it even works), the amulet is only there for the turn it's played and the next, meaning the only thing it does is preventing Albert from raping Eris' face the turn she plays the 9 pp do nothing (he will just do that next turn instead)
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>>170899896
Okay, thanks! How many packs a week on average do people make from just playing daily and doing missions?
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>>170900474
And then you play another amulet
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>>170900430

more like d-shift verse.
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>>170900085
don't forget you can play spirit cycle + howl to clear board and start up the best draw engine in the game
so you could just run a bunch of low cost stuff like deadly grasp and not worry about the card disadvantage
also gives you the best chance of having odin in your hand on turn 8
the only problem is aegis, storm damage, and otk/dshift decks
otherwise this could be the strongest control deck in ToG
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i am so excited for aegis please cygames dont let this card become a meme
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>>170900529

>dshift verse

Better able to timestop at turn 7.
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>>170900510
1-2 pack a day
>>
>yfw Fangs of the weak
>Neutral Amulet
>only cards with 2 PP or less can attack. Countdown: 3
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>>170900606
>mutagenic bolt
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>>170900290
The new amulet affects YOUR FOLLOWERS, not aegis. As it stands it seems like its intent is to work together, you won't be able to attack anything but Aegis.

>>170900474
Except that's good because it gives you a safety net on the turn you play the card. The next turn you can just drop another amulet or heal or ward up.
>>
>Lost a game ALMOST entirely because of Ultimate Value Carrot.
I also lost because I needed more of my Odins and Revelations which I somehow failed to draw even when they were 4 out of my remaining 12 cards.
But man, fuck that carrot.
>>
Carnivorous Flower - 3pp Forest
Fanfare: Destroy an enemy amulet if at least 2 other cards were played this turn.

Swords to Woodlands - 3pp Forest
Destroy an enemy follower that costs 2 play points or less. Destroy an enemy follower or amulet that costs 5 play points or less instead if at least 2 other cards were played this turn.

Petrification - 3pp Rune
Transform an enemy follower or amulet into a Clay Golem.
Earth Rite: Banish it instead.

Rite of Exorcism - 3pp Rune
Destroy an enemy follower that costs 3 play points or less.
Enhance (5): Destroy an enemy follower or amulet instead.

Goetia Mage - 3pp Shadow
Necromancy (4): Destroy an enemy amulet.

Geryon - 4pp Blood
Fanfare: Destroy an enemy amulet if Vengeance is active for you.

Execution - 5pp Neutral
Destroy an enemy follower or amulet.

Shadow Witch - 6pp Rune
Earth Rite: Transform an enemy follower or amulet into a Clay Golem.

Dragonrider Devil - 6pp Dragon
Fanfare: Destroy an enemy amulet.

Odin - 8pp Neutral
Fanfare: Banish an enemy follower or amulet.

Orb Dragon - 9pp Dragon
Fanfare: Destroy an enemy follower or amulet.

Bahamut - 10pp Neutral
Fanfare: Destroy all other followers and amulets. Can't attack the enemy leader if 2 or more enemy followers are in play.
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would it be a good idea to craft some elanas right now?
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>>170900648

>still taking 12 damage

Wut?
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>>170900290
People are being obtuse and pretending the effect from the amulet is magically different because it's slapped on the enemy followers instead of Aegis but at the end of the day it's the same shit, Aegis doesn't interact with effects, period. For the purposes of the effect the amulet creates Aegis might as well not even exist on the field, meaning enemy followers will still be able to attack.
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>>170900648
>use up your whole mana on 1 spell.

Can't be played in dshift, lmao
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>>170900606
>go second
>drop your turn 7 do nothing
>they kill you with d-shift on turn 8

Yeah I'm sure d-shift will really care about that card. Just like how much Khawys fucks them now right?
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>>170900689
Hello Seraph here I come!
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>Open 2nd animated Reaper

I'm sorry /svg/ but looks like I have to lowered myself playing unga shadow.
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>>170900763

>turn 6 death's breath

Nice "do nothing" meme.
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>>170900441
Why would you attack aegis, he's indestructible.
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>>170900746
>fire chain
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>>170900708
No. A follower is still a follower and no effect can take this away.
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>>170900840
You are highly unlikely to make turn8 dshift if you use all your spellboosts on full board clear with fire chain
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>>170900843
Aegis doesn't interact with effects at all. Read the original japanese text.

Incidentally this also means 2 aegis wouldn't stop bahamut from attacking, something I've seen mentioned here quite a bit.
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>tfw people will get scared shitless of aegis and started dropping odin for execution

yesssh goyim drop the odin youldnt want to get wrecked by aegis arent you
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>>170900780
I think phantom dragon is a better reaper sans the pp cost.
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>>170900983
>dropping
Not a chance
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>>170900983

are people here unable to read at all?
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>>170900956
Isn't Bahamut couldn't attack if there is 2 followers? Aegis itself is still a follower, right?
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>>170900983
>Execution in 2017

This isn't DE where PtP was a thing. Why would Ramp and Control drop their only answer to Seraph?
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>>170901017
That probably is because you are C rank.
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>>170901069
execution for the 3pp amulet you dumb goy
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>>170900807
>3 kaleidoscopic glow targets

Death's breath is terrible against D-shift my man
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>>170901082
Aegis doesn't interact with effects. For the purposes of Bahamut's effect Aegis might as well not be there.
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>>170900983
Nah, not dropping, actually will add more amulet destroyer tho
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>>170901129
Follower isn't an effect it's an essence of being.
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>>170901082
N-no but because it's unaffected by other effects it means it will be ignored.
Just desperate justifications people are making.

>>170901129
Says who? The effect affects Bahamut not fucking aegis. A follower is a follower.
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>>170900956

baha can;t attack face if there are two ambush followers in play.

why would aegis be any different?
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Owlcat is love
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man

how come there are so many different interpretations for aegis effect?

cygames need to clarify what the fuck they meant by "cant be affected by card effect" soon
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>>170901129
So aegis can attack ambushed followers too because it negates the effect of another follower that has NOTHING to do with him by that logic?
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>>170901129

>Aegis doesn't interact with effects.

it astounds me the stupidity some people can display around here.
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>>170901129
That's not what it implies at all. Aegis is not affected by other follower's abilities, doesn't mean bahamut isn't affected by aegis existing. Bahamut already get's cucked by stealth and can't be attacked followers. Seems reasonably that two Aegis would cuck him as well.
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>>170901234
Because we haven't played the game yet. Everything will be clear when the expansion launches.
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>>170901234
It means that only cards that change its health or attack have any effect.
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>>170901234
They really should just write this as the text:
"INERADICABLE"

That's it. Clears up any confusion.
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>>170901150
>add more amulet destruction to counter a 3pp bronze

Having a bunch of dead cards in your hand against a seraph deck is not the way to go.
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Aegis doesn't nullify the effects other followers have,
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>>170901234
>>170896961
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>post yfw one of the dragon legends is actually playable

I'll go first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwmeH6Rnj2E
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>>170901354
>Protection from Everything
>Can only be affected by Stat changes
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went first 5 fucking times in a row

can't make this shit up

no 1pp drops all those five times too
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I can't wait to for all the free wins solely because people can't read.
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>>170901456
I know that feel bro

but happened to me in arena
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>>170901541
That's shitty, how was it going?
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>aggro is kill
>meta is back to haven elana aegis and dshift shitfest again
And we've come full circle back to DE.
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>>170901448
A whole expansion without Elana is too much for Cygames.
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>>170901446
The only reason they are taking so long to show them is because they are going to be insane game changers and will have an answer to aegis.

But they will be later overshadowed by the other sword leggo.
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>>170901585
i though svg said sword and shadow gonna be tier0 yesterday

what happened
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>>170901585
You can't stump the I'M JUST A MAGE WHOSE OLD AS DIRT
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they better print a 0 attack setter.
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>>170901191
Because ambush followers actually give a shit about effects, unlike Aegis?

But whatever, keep freaking out and believing that cygames printed a card that essentially gives aegis ward after they went out of their way to make sure aegis could not be given ward or anything of the sort and basically makes haven invincible to everything except Seraph.
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>>170901648
Anti meta happened
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>>170901648
svg is perpetually incorrect about everything
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>>170901673
WAISHI WAISHI MAHOOO
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>>170901648
2 cost amulet that forces trading. And a blood follower that forces spells hit him instead of others. And forest got a full heal.
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>>170901585
We never left D-Shift shitfest.
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>>170901639
>actually believing
Hehehehhe, it's going to be great when they end up being more memes.
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Just crafted 2 cerberus. How fucked I am when the next expansion hits?
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I really hope Cygames buffs the shit out of aggro in ToG so dshift is literally unplayable.
Then I can keep farming unga bunga retards with cblood for easy master points without having to concede 1/20 games to the odd dshift.
It's really goes to show how shit /svg/ is when they cry about blood being shit when you have to be mentally handicapped to ever lose to aggro or midrange ever since people stopped playing roach.
But I guess control where you have to manipulate some ressource rather than just playing your shit on curve like Sun Satan / Nep is too difficult for most people.
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59826

Concede onegai, we can play it out if you want or need the 100g from the quest.
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>tfw was memed by elana with pegasus scripture

was 1 point short of lethal though
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>>170901806
>implying you don't WANT it to be memes at this point so you can keep making posts like this and post Rowen reactions.
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>>170901815
Why would you craft anything before the expansion comes out...

You could probably still use her in a neph deck.
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>>170901848
>blood
>hard
Keep telling yourself that, c blood is babby tier compared to real card games
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>>170901702
>basically makes haven invincible to everything except Seraph.
Seraph and JO dragon, how could I forget.
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>>170901848
>Control Blood
More like Concede Blood
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>>170901848
>I really hope Cygames buffs the shit out of aggro in ToG
hahaha oh wow

did you even see the cards they print, they cuck aggro hard
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>>170901928
>tfw jo dragon will be the true chemo next expansion

i can dig it
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>>170901924
t. swordshitter
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>>170901903
Well, I have a Neph deck but crafted it because of how much D Shift I've been facing. Idk how I am going to include cerberus on a nep deck tho
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>>170901894
>play comfy dragon
>still get wins
>am never called cancer
>everyone treats you like their little brother who went away to war and got maimed
It's the best feel really
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>>170901868
A-anyone?
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>>170901702
A permanent ward is not the same as 2 turns ward.
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>>170901924
I never said that. Blood is piss easy, just slightly less piss easy than comparable decks.
This is why you've got braindead retards dragging down the winrate when you just need the slightest bit of brain matter to instawin vs. any aggro or midrange deck.
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>>170896360
I come from hearthstone, and I'm curious how this game is since hearthstone's meta is a bit stale right now, is Shadowverse fun to play right now?

Is it better on my phone battery than hearthstone since I play on the go a lot?
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>>170901814
Dumb phoneposter
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>>170902043
2578

But you're still going to lose to DShift.
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>>170902074
Like several anons have pointed out, nothing is stopping you from playing another after it expires.
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>>170902082
We're about to get the most cancerous expansion since release, so you better hold tight
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>>170901683
How about a 0 defense setter? Technically it destroy followers, in a different way tho
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>>170902082
shit is gonna get pretty crazy next expansion
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>>170902082
It's essentially the same as Hearthstone but with almost no RNG on cards themselves.
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>>170901868
Thanks Fampy
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>>170902117
And aggro.
And Seraph
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>Forest gets better healing than haven
>and steals Luna's class mechanic
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>>170902117
What do you even include on the 5 mana slot? Just pull out Cerberus to die?
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>>170902156
>>170902162
>>170902174
Is it at least better on my phone battery? I feel hearthstone really just fucks it up too much
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>>170902227
Cerb and Goblinmount.

You can also run Phantom Howl and play poverty aggro.
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>>170902227
>every nep pull has to do something

I bet you play 2478 Nep with corpses and unleashers.
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Can we just delete Forest already? Is there any low that those filthy knife ears doesn't stoop to?
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>>170902195
>Fairy Beast heal 8, bounce it adds to shadows
>Fairy Beast next turn heal 8 it adds to shadows
>Fairy Queen heal everything
>Opponent rage quits

This will be Forest's win condition
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>>170902082
it's fun to play right now but shitters will tell you it's not because they suck at the game, but the next expansion is right around the corner so most are focusing on saving up rupies for that

I don't play on the phone so I can't help you there, just give the game a try my man
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New Sword legendary
4pp
2/4 Storm
Enhance (8): can attack twice, deal double damage to leaders

Yes? No?
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>>170902359
What deck should I try to build towards? I know you get a ton of free starter packs so what's something I can make with those?
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>>170902307
>You can also run Phantom Howl
you should, it synergizes too well with cebrs
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>>170902376
Sounds about right for the power budget of a sword legendary
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>>170902253
Yeah, it's pretty good on it, there's a lot of options to turn off to optimize it.
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>>170902253
Well, you can disable animations and use sipl background for easier time. Its optimized for mobile, so its probably decent
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>>170902376
Add:
Isnt affected by amulets
and its perfect
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>make a sword deck with no Albert
>people just concede when they're in Albert kill range regardless
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>>170902376
next turn they heal to full hp or drop a 3pp amulet so why not?
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>>170902376
>>170902452
le no
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>>170902195
I still don't get how it's allowed.
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>>170902376
isn't affect by wards, amulets, can't be damaged or affected by other cards :^)
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>>170902376
How about this?
New Sword legendary
5pp
Enhance (9): Can't be damaged until the end of the turn this card is played. Can attack twice per turn.
Yes? No?
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>>170902453
I lost to a Otohime/Leonidas deck earlier. It was embarrassing. I kept expecting Alberts so played aggressively for the board, and they just eventually got out 2 Leonidas amulets and memed with every 1 drop being a 10/10 suddenly.
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>>170902419
Play dimenshion-shift runecraft and watch your control matchups rage quit by turn 3 or 4 when they figure out you aren't playing tempo.

You will literally be handed games on a silver platter.
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At least i got hope that the blood bronze/silvers arent so bad....
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Concede please.
92810
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>>170901848
>cblood
>see any forest deck
>hit concede
>see ramp dragon
>hit concede
>see Nephtits
>hit concede
>see d-shift
>hit concede

>a-at least I sometimes win against s-swor-
>see 9 mana enhanced Albert
>hit concede
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>>170902131
And then Baha comes and destroyes it. There are amulet removals anon
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Kidnapper
R8

3 PP
1/1
Fanfare: Banish an enemy follower or amulet.
Last Words: Return the banished follower or amulet to play.
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>>170902558
>not playing it out and winning that 1 out of 10 games

>>170902608
>spending 10 mana to get rid of a 3 cost amulet
Kek, please do.
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>>170902537
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
STOP TRIGGERING MY PTSD
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>>170902608
And then you play another? Meanwhile Aegis has already attacked twice.
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>>170902546
Swordfags are getting ballsy with almost no Dorothy and elf around to cuck them.
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>>170902419
what deck you play doesn't matter in lower levels (read: bellow A) so you can just do whatever, as for which craft to build of, you'll have to read on them and decide which craft mechanic interests you the most, although if you're looking for viability, the best crafts right now are sword and rune (which might change at the end of this month when the expansion comes out)

and yes you get tons of free packs, you can also do the Elite AIs for a total of 2800 gold, you can do the story (you HAVE to do the story for every leader because they give you cards you can't get anywhere else), you can do 20 complete (without conceding) private matches against different people for 2000 gold, and there's probably more I'm missing

the game throws free shit at you like it's nothing so you can get a good amount of legendaries from the get-go, read up about rerolling too
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>>170902537
I dont get it, is it a spell?
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>>170902546
Otomeme is best meme.
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>>170902453
>have no albert
>9pp
>they have 10 health
>taunt a lot
>they concede
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>>170902682
And then you play wards.

See I can theory counter play too.
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>>170902763
I mean if I wasn't playing control sword I probably would have won easily, Otomeme is a dead turn if they do have board clear
So yeah, meme/10.
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>THEY ALWAYS HAVE LEVI ON EVOLVE

this is bullshit
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>Man-eating grove
>If enemy followers attack your leader they get hit by 2 damage
Geez, it's not like Forest needs to shit on aggro any harder.
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>>170902785
Then I play Bahamut/Themis and hit face with Aegis.
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Is there a deck that has a >45% win rate against all other decks?
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>>170899259
Just play DShit and farm wins because aggro is dead.
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>>170901848
We don't need aggro to counter Dshit. We need STORM. Say what you want but Albert is the one that keep Dshit in check and probably the savior of this expansion. We really need 4PP neutral 3/3 storm but no enhance so it's a bit balanced.
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>>170902969
Discard Dragon
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>>170902969
Sword. Daria when going 2nd.
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>>170902785
The difference is that in our theoretical aegis deck we know that haven will pretty much always have multiple competitive spirits in hand because, damn it's almost like haven has cards to specifically tutor countdown amulets, while in your theory world you are just pretending this shit isn't obviously broken.
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>>170902962
And then I play Elf queen + ancient elf.
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Is there any word from Cygames if they would add more deck slots or the option to reorganize your deck list?
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>>170902969
Midrange Sword.
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>>170902831
I still have her in my deck for the off chance that I can meme someone with her.
The occasional cursed general + otomeme is pretty funny.
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>>170902909
>They have to drop a Levi on turn 2 or 3 because they bricked hard
>Kill it with whatever

Feels so good.
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>Win X as Forest
>Hit reroll with all my might
Didn't think I'd see the day, but these take too long to be worth it anymore.
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>>170902763
my most recent game
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>>170902919
With that card, they've basically killed aggro-singlehandedly. I get that they're trying to kill the non-interactive meta, but this seems like they don't want to admit they fucked up, so they just remove face decks entirely.
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>>170903125
>implying they don't have another one in hand.
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>>170903125
>they drop a levi on turn 2
>kill it
>they drop another on turn 4 and evolve it
>another on 5 and evolve it
H-HEAR!
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>>170902573
>losing to sword as cblood
>people playing forest since the gobu nerf
>losing to Neptits
>dragon

I guess at AA rank or whatever shit rank you're at you might see those decks.
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>when you have to bully Luna for mission progress
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>>170903230
I know it's a religious thing, but all I can think of when I see those little headbands is that they are wearing underwear on their head
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>>170903230
why does vampy come to them all? is she trying to seduce them?
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>cygames saving dragon legendaries to be revealed last

I know this feel. Dragon going to get 2 Albert-tier legendaries. You heard it here first.
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Where was you when aggro is kill?
>>
I should probably stop playing arena after ToG, too much tempo will depend on whether you draft a powerful card, or not.
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>>170903175
Aggro is fine. It's the excessive amount of damage from hand that broke the meta. They could have made a follower than nullifies Storm while in play, or had more effects like that new Blood follower that eats burn for you. Killing aggro entirely just green lights dshit and Seraph to take over the meta.
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what happen if you combo the neutral amulet that force you to attack follower with a follower that can't be attacked? so enemy will sit there do nothing until they have effect or spell to remove that follower be4 they can face?
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>>170903372
that's a pretty cool art
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>>170903175
What ridiculous legendary will Cygames release on the next expansion that will save aggro?
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>>170903404
Read the amulet again. It only applies to targets that can be attacked.
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>>170903431
>2 mana amulet
>Set opponent's max hp 5 hp lower
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>>170903404
i suppose you can hit face then
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>>170903431
storm face card that can't be affected by other card effect
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>>170903372
>3 pp
>lasts 2 turns

At least make it 1 pp
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>>170903149
Sometimes the meme works and sometimes it doesn't, Otohime is a gamble.
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>>170902573
Not him but Roach Aggro is dead, nobody plays Wolfbolt, tempo isn't played and isn't terribly favored and nobody plays PtP because of Bahamut, which Control Blood can run.

Roach was as bad as D-Shift for C-Blood but those times are over. Most others you mentioned aren't hugely favored, only slightly.
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At least concedecraft still has the best sluts
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>>170903431
Aegis Levin Saber.
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>>170903498
>make it lower cost so it can be bounced with kaleidoscope
Fuck off runetits
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>Maelstrom Serpent

Literally a Zirnitra on steroids. How the hell is this allowed?
>>
Let's be serious. Why would you play Fairy Queen over Fairy Beast?
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>>170903372
I like this artwork even if the card is going to fuck up the meta sideways.
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>>170903327
>people actually believe dragon would EVER get a legendary as good as albert
This legitimately enrages me, and I don't know why.
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>>170902558
What do I need to make that?
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>>170903561
>Literally a Zirnitra on steroids.

Does it have storm?
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>>170903460
3PP Amulet
Countdown (2)
Until this amulet leaves play, all played followers cannot attacks the leaders unless there is no enemy followers in play.

the google doc said this
and it just say enemy followers in play nothing about can be attacked where dragon have a lot of cannot be attacked
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>2 turns is at least 1/4 of a usual game
That amulet is literally a better guardian sun
>>
What is the hottest nepdeck right now and could somebody post a decklist of it?
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>>170903561

you don;t need to be half dead to play zir
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>>170903397
Aggro will not be fine after this. All 1 drops, all 2 drops, and some 3 drops can't go face until this card dies. And if you play them, they'll probably just be removed by sylvan justice or May without ever doing anything. And the best part, since your followers can't attack them, forest is free to sit back and not play any followers either. Makes it easier to get a full hand will of the forest to clear all the stuff you just played that can't attack.
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>>170903372
I can feel it in my bones, this is THE card of this expansion.
You know, the one /svg/ endlessly talks about as if it's going to break everything in half and then the expansion hits and no deck plays it.
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>>170903620
>b-but 3/1 storm!
Not him, but I'm pretty sure dragon would trade the 3/1 on Zirnitra for 25/25 if they are at 10 health
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>>170903569
Because it can heal much more than Fairy Beast
Because it has better stats
Because Aerin fills 6pp slot
Because you can do t6 Aerin and T7 Elf Queen+Vist
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>>170903569
It can heal more than 8hp, up to 19.
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>>170903372
What this thing do?
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>>170903518
>Roach Aggro is dead


52.4% winrate (52.4% in masters) on shadowlog for the previous week
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>>170903518
OTK roach is still the most played forest deck. Wolfbolt is the second highest played forestdeck. No one plays tempo anymore, that's just a fucking meme.

The only thing that is less played is forest as a whole. And even then it still has a higher playrate than blood and haven in masters.
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>>170903569
Because it can heal more and doesn't depend on handsize?
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>>170903569
>>170903706
Also it doesn't care how many cards you have in hand
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>>170903662
You don't need to be half dead to play Maelstrom either. Have you even looked at the card? It basically is Zirntira WITHOUT vengeance and can be cheated out on turn 6. If you have vengeance it goes from Zirnitra to 25/25.
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>>170903620
>3 attack storm follower

It's nothing
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>>170903724
*52.3% in masters
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>>170903784
Yeah, who would ever use a storm follower with 3 attack?
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>>170903724
Lave it to the elf drama queens.
Well if they mean they can't win on turn 7 every time I guess you can say it's dead.
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>>170903175
>the meta is terrible
>quick, we have no time to fix it, just print a card good enough to break it the other way
So, the game got even more opening hand draw rng dependent than before.

This reminds of HS where things are balanced in the same fashion
>You drew multiple new cards?
>You win
>You didn't?
>You lose
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>>170903838
>1 health vs 5 health
Are you insane?
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>>170896551
>Elf Queen
Good thing I have a lot of Forestcraft cards.

I LOVE FOREST.

Fairy Beast + Elf Queen + Erin.

BEST CRAFT.
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>>170903838
>comparing Albert to fucking zirnitra

Dude please stop
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>>170903582

Dimension shift and Merlin.

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.3.61O4A.61O4A.61O4A.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.61O4e.61O4e.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gku.5-gku.5-gku.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.62XK8.62XK8.62XK8.62bTS.62bTS.62bTS.62Uta.62Uta.62Uta.6A6RK.6A6RK.6A6RK.5-glM.5-glM.5-iRo.5-iRo.5-iRo.62Zm4.62Zm4.62Zm4
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>>170903784
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>>170903945
REEEEE HAVE YOU EVEN LOOKED AT ZIRNITRA
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>>170903669
I meant aggro as a deck type is fine. Then they made too much storm and burn (DoD was a huge fucking mistake) and presently we have controls deck that can't actually control anything because there's no good answer to non-stop damage from hand.
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>>170903945
>>>170903838
Imp + evo= 5/8
Zirnitra + evo = 3/1
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>>170903943
>tfw new rune silver and library can make a budget dickshift from scratch
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>>170903998
3 attack storm follower is great

>>170904002
fuck of control shitter
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>>170903838
/svg/ BTFO
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>>170904060
I hope you get cancer and die for suggesting a 3/1 for 8 is good
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Is there any app like heartharena for Shadowverse?
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Anyone who pretends any non-Forte dragon legendary is even playable should be shot
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>>170904110
We don't have the technology yet. Try http://shadowlog.com
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fairy queen effect is what blood need as a spell and cost like 2-3 pp for mid game do crazy vengeance shit then heal back up to 20
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>>170904082
i hope your wish returns to you, also you ignore 2 dragons

zirnitra gives 1-2 5/5 dragons and a 3/1 storm follower, maelstorm gives only 2 5/5 sneks, stop pretending 3 points of storm mean nothing you huge retard
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>>170904170
GAS THE MAIDS RACE WAR NOW
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>>170896941
Maybe it can. It would depend if the Rouges Creed lies before or after the Frog.
So basically you have to go like that: t1 - Frog, t4 - Creed + Ninja Trainee and the frog will hit face every turn, then gain ambush and then Creed will buff him.
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>>170904170
The new ones for ToG.
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Aren't we getting two legos per class for this expack? We still have several lego reveal to go.
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>wolfbolt bouncing fairy beast up and down

Eh, it's not like I want that win anyway.
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>>170903326
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>Baphomet searches Maelstrom Serpent
>Shit out a field of 5x 5/5 next turn
Blood is gonna be fucking cancer next expansion
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>>170904002
Oh yeah, and I forgot.
>play grove
>let it sit for a turn
>nature's guidance back to hand and play it again

How does aggro win against this?
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anybody have a good midrange/control shadow list for me to pick up?
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>>170904238
>maelstorm gives only 2 5/5 sneks

Fake news. kys
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>>170904275

5 more to be precise. 1 for Forest/Sword/Rune while 2 for Dragon.
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>>170904170
Bahamut is still playable
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>>170904275
we have 1 lego to go for rune, forest and sword, and 2 legos for dragon

be prepared to hear the dragon's roar
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>>170904275
1 Forest 1 Sword 1 Rune 2 Dragon, I think. Can't wait for the Dragon shitstorms.
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>>170904374
Dragonsong Flute 2.0 coming right up
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>>170904197
even better is for it to be a legendary blood spell card and have fairy queen effect cost 5 pp if vengeance activated cost 0-1pp this will fix blood
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>>170904256
I know it can if you play the frog first but it basically means you will always have to play him on curve on turn 3 for it to work. It's going to be shit for ambush decks unless cygames makes a special case for it, like they did with PtP.
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>>170896941
use well of destiny instead
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>>170904335
Then got Themis'd.
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Honestly Zombie Party looks stupidly good. It gives Shadow a great midrange card and flexible option that they can fill the board with to threaten the enemy with Eachtar next turn.

If RoB taught us anything, it's that if an enhance card is okay at one cost and great at another it will be fantastic.

Also gives you 4 shadows, which is really nice. Think of all the times you spent 6 shadows on Death's Breath only for them to get Themis'd anyways.

Shadow got a bunch of really good cards, looks like they got the treatment Haven got back in DE.
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Why does Aggro Shadow feel so much wonkier than aggro anything else?
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DRAGON LEGO WHEN
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>>170904415
>3pp amulet
>your followers with rush have storm instead if overflow is active for you
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>>170904238
>Fanfare: Summon a Maelstrom Serpent. Repeat until your area is full if Vengeance is active for you.
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>>170904335
They need to be 10 hp or less. Elena aegis grail seraph whatever will be the cancer.
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Alright, new forest legendary! I've been waiting for this for weeks now.
A lot of posts say this is good for control but it helps tempo out more.
You can't use it in ptp control, it costs 7 mana so you can't use it in homecoming wolf control, it's heal runs on shadows generated by fairies and wolfbolt doesn't like to dump fairies because it wants to sit on 9 cards. Wolfbolt already has access to a powerful heal as well so there wasn't much need for it. It's just a slightly stronger but more situational turn 7 heal.
Tempo on the other hand can't run fairy beast and doesn't mind losing it's shadows. It's also much more likely to have more than 8 shadows by turn 7 unlike wolfbolt. It's still a 6/6 on turn 7 which is even more big bodies that force the opponent to use up board clears, like cynthia and tia.
Tempo will get the most value from this lego and you will see many games where a tempo player heals back all of their hp. If forest gets decent card draw and another board clear down the road, tempo will become the single best, most well rounded deck you could play.
We still have one more lego to go too!
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78585
Need a win. Either concede or let me hit your face.
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>>170904370
baha, saha, luci are all neutral
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>>170904443
>j-just themis it bro
What about about other classes that don't have it?
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>>170903326
Is she dressed as Tingle?
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>dragon missions 4 days in a row

reeeeeee
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>>170904498
That would be pretty bad. We have so few rush creatures.
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>>170904335
>play a lone 5pp 2/1 on turn 5
>give your opponent free reign to do whatever they want on their 5 or 6 pp turn

wew lad
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Will they change the current prebuilts when the new expansion hits? I want to buy some of them but if that's the case I'll just wait.
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>>170904532
Neutral is unofficially a dragon element.
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>>170903569
I don't see that much reason to play Aerin over Tia either. Those plays are purely defensive and change nothing. Im already having issues with fitting everything i need into my wolfbolt and elf got enough defense.
Only reason to use new cards is to drop lowpp cards, so you can actually fit everything. Like drop the guidances and roaches and EPM, go purely defensive and win with ??? astaroth+bolt i guess, doublebolt not gonna cut it for purely defensive deck. But then youll be free win for dshift and seraph, they do same thing but much faster.
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>>170904454

Just-themis-bro :^)

Shadow is going to be a pain in the ass with that amount of board flood. Everyone will be complaining about luna next month
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>>170904458
Because it's not exactly as autopilot as Blood or Sword.
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>>170904507
>I know that almost all revealed haven cards have been shit but this powerful interaction that may or may not work will make haven cancer. It's like anudda shoah!
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>>170904630
>all your craft's cards are bad so neutral cards are your craft's cards!
Do people really believe this? It's just another way of saying the craft sucks. Sword uses Bahamut, that doesn't make Bahamut a sword card.
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>>170904590
>play a lone 5pp 2/1 on turn 5
>evolve and trade with it to stall a bit
>cast maelstorm serpent the next turn
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>>170899147
>aggro blood
>needing setup
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>>170904507
>8 pp do nothing give you 3 servant of darkness 3 turn later
Why would anyone use that dogshit instead of Aegis?
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>>170904335
>Turn 4 Evolved Belphegor
>Turn 5 Evolved Baphomet
>Turn 6 Evolved Otohydra
>Turn 7 Concede because you did 3 turns of nothing
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>>170904659
>I don't see that much reason to play Aerin over Tia either
So you don't have to pollute your deck with shitty princess mages?
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>>170904758
You can pop it with cards that give you the cards early. Getting satan cards without losing your deck is a big advantage if you are a slow roller, and Haven stall already can sit there and have do nothing turns since they have tribunal.
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>>170904443
Yeah just like with Daria amirite?
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>>170904758
>>8 pp do nothing
destroying the strongest (and possibly the only) enemy follower is "do nothing"

shit /svg/ says
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do people get free packs with the new set release? wasn't here for DE and RoB
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>tfw
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>>170904871
Yeah, expect at least 10, possibly 20.
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>>170904454
>Darkness Evolved shat entirely on Shadow while making Haven one of the best decks in the format.
>Tempest of the Gods gives a huge boost to shadow while Haven gets fuck all

I guess we know who the real heathen is :^)
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So it's been months since I played this game. Took a hiatus back before Bahamut packs released.

What exactly is particularly good in this set?
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>>170904758
oh wait, you meant grail, not coc

then it's
>8 pp for a free ancient lion effect to give you 3 great cards the next turn (since you surely run dogma/healing prayer/garuda/whatever stuff to destroy the amulet)
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>>170904926

Eggggssss.
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>>170904926
Swordcraft. Real surprise, I know.
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>>170904623
pls respond
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>>170904921
theyre giving stealth aegis support card though

you will be whining about elana aegis in a month
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>>170904916
Nah it's usually 10, +5 if they do fucked up like Nep last time
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>>170903724
I've gotten 5k master points this season so I've had a decent number of games and haven't faced any I can remember.
Maybe they are Wolfbolts being misreported? Either way, they have gotten a lot less common and are undeniably worse, which helps Control Blood.

Cutting 1 drops makes your early game so much worse, less chip damage and smaller soccer moms. Not cutting them means you'll get your combo less reliably and definitely later.

tl;dr Maybe they are out there going strong, but I haven't seen them, so I'll happily play my C-Blood and farm Aggro Sword wins
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>>170904874
MOTHER GET THE IMAGE RECORDING DEVICE
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>>170904921
>Haven gets fuck all
LMAO can't wait for the aegis tears
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>>170904916
you wouldn't be lying to me, would you?
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>>170904780
It's not a 6 pp do nothing.

Your opponent has to immediately respond to your board because you most likely have lethal on your next turn. Against a lot of your matchups you will slow down your opponent and get a lot of value trades if anything.
Haven blows you the fuck out though if they have Themis.
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So when are they going to change the arena rewards to RoB tickets? They did it with DE tickets before RoB release.
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>>170904993
What?

>>170905015
So what's the damage from what they added?
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So, about those dragon legos.

They'll either be storm ramp followers or discard stuff. Assuming it's discard, they've already seen that even a card like Dragoon that wipes the enemy board while doing face damage isn't enough to make discard viable, so they'll probably print low cost discard legendaries with crazy good discard properties.
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>>170905094
Sorry for answering honestly, next time I'll say 0
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>play Death's Breath without enough shadows for ward
>aggro concedes anyway
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>>170904515
People stopped trying to use homecoming in Wolfbolt. It's still an overcosted card.

On turn 6 you'd ideally play aerin in wolfbolt and turn 7 you could play the new legendary if need be. Then you can drop your wolf and zero-cost shota elves the next turn with absolute safety. Only thing fairy beast has over the legendary is the bounce and 1 turn earlier, however the legendary has some high burst healing.

If the new gold amulet actually becomes playable for control type forest then shadow generation from fairies won't be an issue.
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SF leaders when? I just want Haven leader that isn't a hag or a fucking bird with a stick
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>>170905106
or any aggro deck because they prey on faggots who twiddle their thumbs instead of healing and removing.
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>>170905142

Dragoncraft is getting this broken card and everyone else is raging over it.

>>170905021

Probably no change for prebuilts until next expansion since there is no talk about it at all.
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>>170905106
Guess who else is most likely in lethal range because they put themselves at 10 defense
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>>170905021
I don't think they will ever change the prebuilts.
Pretty sure they will add new ones since it says something like "set 1" in the menu where you can buy them.
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75 % WINRATE AGAINST DRAGON THEY SAID
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>>170897129
Liza's mother and Baalt's wife iirc. I don't think Lionel is related to any of them
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>>170905163
s-sorry about that anon. sometimes it's hard to believe just how generous this game is.
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>>170905257

You still have 1PP on turn 6 to use diabolic drain, so it's not the worst thing to happen.
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>>170905291
GET COUNTERED PEDOTUMOR
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>>170905291
>losing to a tier 20 card
You deserve this
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>mfw dragon doesn't have a way to remove maelstorm sneks

Conflagration deals 4 dmg and Breath of the Salamander only kills 1 snek
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>>170905257
>likely in lethal range
You did that on turn 4 actually, and are already dead to turn 5 and 6 storm evos.
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>>170905291
Fucking absolute madman
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>>170905218
>You have to eat ALL these eggs
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>>170905349
Imperial dragoon and noxious dragon :^)
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>>170905349
just

bahamut

bro
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>>170905349
Just Bahamut
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>>170905349
Yeah, people are making fun of Maelstrom, but even the non-vengeance version is not removable by anything but Themis on curve or another Blood who is already at Vengeance with revelation

Turn 8 is justifiable since you might have ramped to Bahamut or whatever, but mana cheated Maelstrom will be legitimately scary
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>>170905291
DRACONIFICATED
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>>170905291
>that good feel when you helped improving that 25% winrate
HEAR
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>>170905349
just ramp baha bro
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>>170905291
>draconification
How will shadowbabs ever recover?
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>>170905349

You know what you need to do, son.
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why are there so many have niggers out today?
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>>170905027

I hope they fuck up something this time too.
Aegis seems like a prime candidate with them making some sort of unwanted interaction slip by them.
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I don't think I really like where this is going. I mean, people are always worried about how the meta will turn out but this really seems like it will be meta full of very polarized match ups and also very dependant on card draw, much more that right now.
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>>170905213
turn 1 pass, turns 2-4 healing/removal/wards/trading, turn 5 you evolve and trade an enhanced baphomet, turn 6 you summon serpents and if needed evolve + trade with one of them

aggro is heavily cucked now, because dod can kill only one of those snakes

but then, nobody forces you to use it vs aggro when you can just heal + remove them
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>>170905291
*ramp dragon

I told people to play storm but they wouldn't listen because "b-but then I'd lose to Dorothy and sword".
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>>170905027
We got 15 because of maint extension not neph
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>>170905579
>very dependant on card draw
eggs win again
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>>170905426
>>170905404
>>170905408

What if he plays baphomet, aka, better dragon emissary
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>>170905514
>Aegis is bugged and makes the leader immortal
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>>170905291
How it got ambush?
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Unpopular Opinion: The neutral amulet (the one that stops attacks on face) will not see play.

My Reasoning: There are three phases of the game in which you can play this: early, mid, or late game. The only deck you would play this card in is obviously control. In control, your early game followers are usually followers that have ward or pseudo-ward anyways (Unica, Yurius, etc.) so this amulet does nothing.

In the midgame (which I will consider turns 5-7), you will be able to play this card alongside a 2pp - 3pp follower. Again, as you want your low pp followers to stall the game for you as control anyways, it will do very little for you that turn, and even if it wasn't a ward or pseudo ward to begin with, a 2-3 pp ward will not stabilize the board for you turn 5-7. You can make the argument that it will allow you to play a strong minion (that doesn't already have ward) and give it ward the next turn, but the ward will only last for that single turn, and if that is the case it would have been much better for you to spend the extra 3 pp on stabilizing the board the turn earlier.

The final phase of the game you can play this is during the endgame, where it's arguably "most" useful. People are talking about how you can combo this with something like Aegis and stomp your opponent, but this amulet only lasts for two turns. You can say that you can simply play another amulet over this, but at this point, you would have spent 3 cards on this very situational combo, so why wouldn't you play Seraph instead (and would have already won by now)?

tldr; I think the new neutral amulet is bad and won't see play, feel free to leave your input or poke holes in my logic.
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>game wont load
HELP
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>>170905613
They also gave more packs because of Nep, didn't they?
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>two or possibly 5(FIVE) 5/5s on turn 6 is fine
Daria killed this game and Kikegames is now making its coffin.
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>>170905682
Yeah, the mana cost + needing to have good creatures on top of that was what I expressed skepticism about too. It is a powerful effect, but it has a big "IF" attached to it, and control decks that would run it are already jampacked with cards. Are you really going to sub out some big legend for it?
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>>170905736
Validate your files
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>>170905682
Unpopular Opinion: The neutral amulet (the one that stops attacks on face) will not see play.

My Reasoning: /svg/ is literally always wrong about amulets
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>>170905671
It doesn't. Look at the entire arena and see that is has smoke as well. It's just the effect from serpent force
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>>170905656
I can't help but feel like they'll somehow fuck up this card.
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>>170905312
elvn prince
not related to elven king and queen but some random elven girl is

headcanon at its finest
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>>170905812
Popular Opinion: muh dick

My Reasoning: MUH DIK
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In need of concede. Please and thank you.

34735
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>play against aggro blood
>play contest of strength
>play owlcat

Did I win?
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wtf I love Vampy now
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>>170905291
HEAR
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>>170905916
Thanks ding-donger!
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>>170905812
>My Reasoning: /svg/ is literally always wrong about amulets

I guess the storm zombie amulet will be amazing then
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>>170905682
that card really doesn't do shit.
they can still attack if they clear board. by playing that 3pp card you're going to be down on followers and the effect only lasts for 2 turns.

in effect it makes all your followers into quasi wards. if you have no followers it becomes useless.
it's not viable.
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Guys guys

what if

Kaguya + owlcat
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>>170905291
>draconification
goddammit Rowen
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>>170905491
>way too fine for any ordinary person
just perfect for rowen I guess
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>>170905953
Owlcat has 1 hp bro, a bat is more than enough
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>>170905146
I'd actually love this. Discard is one of my favorite decks to play in masters, even though I get my shit packed in more often than not. I just feel that in order for it to be viable rites needs to be changed to 1PP or be given a 1pp alternative (And this wouldn't even fix it, but it would help a fair bit), or give it so much support in the upcoming expansion that other dragon variants are left out in the cold. It's a shame.
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>>170905851
I played RoB ffs, there many monarchs in this game and they're not all related
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>>170906162

>clash: Destroy the enemy follower if it has 1 attack.

Nope
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>>170904664
Can i complain about them ahead of time?
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>>170906064
No. Too expensive and takes up a board slot.

My Reasoning: I'm not /svg/, I'm me.
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>>170905291
HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR
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>tfw the thing you're most excited about with ToG is mass opening a lot of packs on release
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>>170905291
He had fucking had it with Nepshit.
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Need a concede for the daily
32372
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>>170906315
Animated Maelstrom is going to be fucking sick.
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>>170906315
>was excited to open packs
>saved up 7k rupees
>not a single card announced so far excites me
Honestly I'm getting a serious case of disappointment
>>
Need a private win please
81353
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>>170904981
ALS effect is puny on turn 8, though.
>>
>>170905595
Snakes won't be a problem for aggro though. The turn average for aggro is around turn 6 and if you're not in vengeance on turn 6 snakes won't mean much. Especially since you play around vengeance at early anyway as aggro since you don't want your board revelation'd.

There's also another point that aggro loves it when you evolve one follower to trade with another instead of removing 2-3 followers at once and if you're going to do that on turn 5 and 6 You're pretty much playing into aggro's hand.
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>>170906315
opening packs is the reason i play card games in the first place anon.
the "collecting" part is actually pretty fun on its own.
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>>170906315
>tfw only have 1k saved up
I'm pretty much fucked.
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>>170905953
dies to aotw or an evolved bat
it is good but not that scary, there is the other stuff to cuck aggro

apparently like board flood was the main enemy confronted by the devs in de, the main theme of tog is anti aggro
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>>170897469
>>170897731
>>170897301
>>170897508
Liza!
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>>170905291
Just imagine how many times this guy lost to Nephthys for him to make a deck like that
>>
>blood gets a 2-drop removal magnet in Garrett

So how will this be useful? Theoretically, you can divert a Crimson Sorcery meant for your head, but Levi can still trade into him first.

It's just another guy who cannot protect anyone like Browen, right?
>>
>play card
>gets kaleidoscoped
>play card again
>gets kaleidoscoped
>play card
WAISHI WAISHI
ebin :-DDDD
>>
>>170906315
Can't wait to bitch about my shit draws.
Although I was the first 1 to post animated Bahamut on RoB launch
>>
>>170906392
Thanks Luna.
>>
>Really want to play another craft
>don't have the cards for a full deck
>3500 Gold but can't draw because the expansion isn't out
Life is suffering.
>>
I had a Unica survive 4 turns. I think that's some kind of record.
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FUCKING VAMPYSHITTERS, MAELSTROM SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DRAGON LEGO
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>>170905021
They will just add current cancer to prebuilts.
>>
things /svg/ was right about in rob:
- aggro rune
- the fact that dragon could make the best out of sahaquiel compared to other crafts

what more?
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>>170906521
>Kaleidoscopes your maid leader
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>>170906421
blah blah blah

just so you would know, dorothy cucks aggro exactly with her board floods and no, she doesn't use crimson for board clears
>>
>>170906630
But Urias>Vampy
>>
I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet, but grail is yet another card that cucks Fafnir
>>
>>170906630
DELETE THIS
>>
>rerolled 20 rupies mission into 6 ranked win mission
Fuck you Cygames, I need that money
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>>170906630
D-Don't cry. We're going to get something even better!
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>>170906521
>play Death's Breath after Kamura
>get through this Dshitter
>kaleidoscope
>kaleidoscope
>kaleidoscope
>Embrace
>Dshift
>double Destroyers
>Dshift

O-ok.
>>
>>170906642
that's about it
you're talking about a board that unironically thought disco would be legit in rob
>>
>>170903372
>Shadowverse has shit ar-
>>
>>170905682
>why wouldn't you play Seraph instead

There's this card called Odin, ya know.
>>
>>170906521
>trades and Kaleidos the Levi back
>>
>>170906642
>aggro rune
/svg was actually wrong. Most of them were saying it was a meme legendary and that people were going to stick with Dshift.
>>
>>170906642
Does JO dragon count
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>>170906521
>kaleidos my Craig
really spellboosts my darias
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>>170906674
>Magic Missile your Meido Leader
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>>170906762
>you're talking about a board that unironically thought disco would be legit in rob
no I do believe it was all ironic, because I was one of the people memeing about that
>>
>>170906778
Just Owlcat bro.
>>
>>170906642
/svg/ told me that Saha was garbage and I dusted 2 sahas, never listening to /svg/ again
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>>170906703
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>>170906519
well, you can prevent them from using dod on your fat follower or something
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>>170906876
It isn't very good overall. It only works in ramp dragon, and ramp dragon isn't a power deck or anything. It's Tier 2 at best, most people are going to feel like its Tier 3.
>>
>>170906685
That's because she has... stay with me here... a turn 4 and 5 evolve that combos with low cost-spells to both take out your board and deal damage to your leader. Also a turn 5 board flood is a lot different than a turn 6 board flood.
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>>170906630
That pic is cruel and horrible
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>>170906630
I really don't understand why it isn't desu.
A turn 6-7 Maelstrom Serpent is pretty powerful for Dragon if you don't have mass removal.

First Vampy steals Deathly Tyrants with Bloodhungry matriarch, now she steals Dragon's Dragons.
>>
>>170906876
But anon Saha is garbage
>>
>>170906987
Desu the fuck outta here
>>
>>170906973
i dunno why you forget that cblood has a lot of removal and healing and wards
>>
>>170906965
Have you seen the new neutrals my man
>>
>>170906367
Please help.
>>
>check reveals
>Forest leggo is just a legendary Fairy Beast
Win condition nowhere.
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Already have seraph and aggro sword. What should I build next?
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>>170907083
>just stack 30 neutrals into your deck
>who even needs a craft
>>
>>170906473
650 rupy and 2k vial here. Fuck me
>>
>>170906987
But matriarch is a vampire not a skeleton, read her flavor text.
>>
>>170906965
Saha Ramp has like a 53% win rate. Hardly sounds T2.
>>
I'm the scrub who was asking noob questions earlier, does rerolling reset your story progress?
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>>170907073
>wards
yeah man those veights are so good
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>>170906980
>>170906703
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>>170907104
nobody helped me today so im not going to help anybody in the foreceeable future

fuck off
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>>170907112

>he doesn't want to be rich

Dude. 19 heal!
>>
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>>170907115
>all these animated legos
I'm jelly.
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>>170907161
Re-rolling is making a new account and resetting everything, story, AI battles. Everything
>>
>>170907132
You don't need 30 neutrals to play israfil
>>
>>170906780
Fair enough point, I suppose, but are you really going to run this neutral amulet in your deck that is useless for 2/3rds of the game, to maybe win by drawing them alongside your Aegis later? Unlike with Seraph, you're not even guaranteed to win the game if your combo resolves (your opponent can destroy the amulets or stall with wards).
>>
>>170907159
>53% win rate

This cant be true. I use saha ramp and I autolose to everything, Maybe I'm just bad
>>
>>170907149
Don't reply to the fucker.
>>
>>170906315
3600 gold saved up. Should be fun.
>>
>>170899246
Ah, you post it! Thanks
>>
>>170907171
next expansion it will be those 2/3 grimnirs
>>
>>170907112
LMAO FULL HEAL
>Dies to dshift next turn
AT LEAST I GOT A FULL HEAL LOL
>>
>>170906315
This. This feeling's nice, somehow like when you're excited to open stuff on Christmas day. I kinda regret using up the gold from the Elite AI though. Tog got fucking announced the day after I've spent the gold on packs.
>>
>>170907305
Post deck. Might be something you're doing wrong.
>>
>>170907149
She's riding Tyrant's though.

>>170907312
Holy shit why are you so fucking mad though?
>>
>>170907176
This saves the goddamn thread.
>>
>>170907358
oh no! it has a counter that nobody fucking uses!
>>
>>170907387
All vampy needs to be exterminated. I can't wait for Vega to stop that little leddit monster.
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Please tell me the next expansion is going to destroy aggro cucks.
I don't think I can take it much longer.
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>>170905682
It works best with Haven and seems like it was intentionally designed to work with Aegis. You have plenty of PP lee-way to drop a 3 PP amulet on turn 8 and interact with your opponents board as well. And if its not safe to do it on turn 8 you can combo it with themis on turn 9, then drop Aegis on turn 10.

Works earlier as well since Haven pays the PP for its followers on previous turns and the turns they pop out they can just slam down the amulet and give everything ward essentially. This works best with Elana since they don't always run minions that have innate ward, and a number of their healing minions are also too weak to gain guardian sun's effect.
>>
>>170907240
Wish I had more Fortes. Dragon looks so fun but damn is it pricey.
>>
>>170906703
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>>170907490
>Implying next expac won't be a feud between control and dshift since aggro is getting no support
>>
>opponent concedes by t4
Is there a better feeling?
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>>170906987
>vampy stole her deathly tyrant
>arisa stole her mechanics
>eris stole her mordecai
Is Luna perhaps even more cucked than Rowen?
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Who /0 rupees/ here?

>mfw there are peeps who don't get instant gratification
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>>170907540
it will be midrange meta
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>>170907490
>nobody uses Dshift
I'm not even going to make fun of whatever rank you're in because I envy you.
>>
>>170907587
>opening one pack at a time
>gratification
In what world?
>>
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>>170907376
No bully please
>>
>Contest of Strength
>a neutral Guardian Sun, but better

Who thought this was a good idea? Why are the neutral cards so good in this expac?
>>
>>170907672
Good.
>>
>>170907587
you also get standard packs for logging in and for monthly ranked scores as well as for some dailies etc, its enough instant gratification for me while i save rupues
>>
>>170907587
me one week ago.
started saving for tog though, now at ~800 rupees and ~3000 vials

desu i want to spend it on DE to get more pascale and mary
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>>170907773
Oh fuck off.
>>
>>170907115
>Animated breast dominator

i am jelly
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>>170901585
Disco dragoon is a solid and good card.
The problem is that it requires this piece of shit to be up to even get the deck flowing. It doesnt matter how good cards they give discard since the requirement ad difficulty to get up this one card still remains the same.
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>>170907540
Pretty much dead with that new forest amulet
>>
Apparently every card is shit because:
>1-5 pp
dies to removal
>6 pp
dies to Themis
>7 pp
lose to D-shift
>8 pp
banished
>9-10 pp
lose to Seraph
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>>170907241
I only got like 5 packs so far and people say you're supposed to get like 80, where do I get those?
>>
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>>170907358
You don't drop this vs dshift.
You fuck dshift with roaches so hard they can't sit down for a week.
Elf queen is for the bungas.
Can't wait to see some swordbb choke on that full hp heal.
>>
>>170907773
it's shit
>>
>>170907587
I started saving after the elite2 AI with 500 gold.
At 2200 now. Aiming for 50ish packs on release hopefully.
>>
>>170907897
Which one?
>>
>>170904419
>Bloodcraft Legendary Amulet 7 PP
>At the beginning of your turn switch your HP total with your opponent. At the end of your turn switch them back.

There I fixed blood
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>>170907882
I feel like it needs to be attached to another card at 4pp like Veteran Tamer/Beastly Vow, and that would be a serious boost. Would give a lot more flexibility and eliminate what is essentially a dead turn on turn 3 for disco.
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>>170907882
Dracomancer's Rites is a bad card because it's a 3 pp tempo loss that doesn't give you the tempo back. Compare it to something like Elana's Prayer that's a 3 pp tempo loss but refunds the tempo after only two heals (and can afford to take the tempo loss because of said heals, something dragon sorely lacks).
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>>170908002
The one that is Robin Hood on steroids.
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>>170907962
>it's shit

not in Nep it isn't
>>
>>170907730
That's not even bad, not sure why you're losing so much. You might brick a lot between 2 Conflags, Genesis and 2 Odins along with the regular high-end core. Might try replacing the Conflags with Emissaries.
>>
Help
I need to win with dragon for missions
>>
>>170908137
go to take2, drag is top tier there
>>
>>170908062
Dragon needs a guy that puts an amulet from your deck into play and discard could be amazing

That way you have at least a follower to evolve
and ram into something, so you do not die the turn you activate your discard cards
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>>170908137
Saha Ramp or just rope every turn in unranked. You'll get there eventually.
>>
>>170908137
Satan ramp until you drop him turn 7.
>>
Jesus fucking Christ you really need autism to play haven, ayy lmao 30 turn games.
I'd rather die to t5 Albert or Daria than sit through another haven game.
>>
>Face gorillion aggro
>Switch to Elana
>Face SahaRamp and nothing else
>>
Guys I love forest now.

Elf Queen is bae.
>>
>>170908263
Skill based games are too hard for you huh?
>>
>>170907730
- 2 conflagration
- 1 owl
- 1 dragon warrior
- 1 draconic blood
- 2 dragons breath
- 1 goblin mount

+ 3 unicas
+ 3 emissary
+ 2 fortes
>>
>>170908062
Yes. They really need to attach it to a follower if they really want to push the discard type.
With all the unga decks its hard to get up before t7 or 8 if combined with a dragon warrior or goblinmount. and then its already late because you still lack cards to do effective dragoons.
But hell its a powerful deck if you get it down on t3 and start collecting cards with pyroxene and/or draconic fervor and can start dumping the dragoons.
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>>170908382
>haven
>skill
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>>170907906
notice how almost all of that shit is from haven
class needs to be deleted
>>
>>170905491
>t. A Merchant

Really makes the card desu. Best lore
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>Sword player passes the first 3 turns
I wish replays would show you what the fuck was in the opponent's hand.
>>
>>170907360
Dude, same
I opened 27 or so DE packs trying to get an animated Seraph and then ToG got announced the same day
Obviously my fault as I should've seen it coming, but meh
>>
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>>170908118
>>170908404

Thanks guys. I'll try with the new changes
>>
>>170907303
It's the only way not to make the Aegis turn a big "let's punch Eris in the face" fest.

How viable will such a thing actually be in constructed, we can't say yet.
>>
>>170908497
>no other class has aoe removal

Oy vey remember the 6 million banished mordecais.
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70310
Need a win, not concede.
>>
>>170908570
Well, we have Nephthys that turns the game into a "let's punch Luna in the face" fest if it gets to that point, and Nephthys has solid winrates against decks that are forced into that mentality. I just don't see this amulet making the cut in Aegis builds, the most likely deck it'll be played in if at all.
>>
>>170908829

>Nep

It's not going to be cancerous when there is Seraph, Sword and Dshift around.
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>haven drops competitive spirit on turn 8
>then drops aegis on turn 9
LITERALLY UNCOUNTERABLE
>>
>>170908404
>removing all your AoE and good wards for Fortes
Might as well play Storm Ramp.
>>
>>170908950
>Missing the entire point of my post
What I mean is, we already have a deck like Nephthys that forces the game into a face race, and Nephthys doesn't even have an amulet like this that makes you invincible. I think this amulet is completely unnecessary to Aegis' viability (if it ends up being viable).
>>
>>170909041
aegis isn't affected by it, so you can still go face if they don't have any other followers.
>>
>>170909041
>turn 8 do nothing
>turn 9 do nothing
havencraft more like do-nothing-craft!
>>
>>170909121
Neptits kill the enemy's fattest guy and heals, Aegis doesn't.
>>
>>170908804
Thanks.
>>
>>170909225
>this shit again
>>
>>170909121
btw

mordecai + competitive spirit sounds fun
>>
>>170909232
Competitive Spirit is only 3PP. You can blast them with ALS or a Tribunal or heal up with Radiance.
>>
>>170908568
Might also want to remove goblin mount entirely, and then add a wyvern cavalier for a surprise turn 7 bahamut/satan. It always happens to me that once you play goblinmount, every opponent you face especially aggrodecks will have a dod on hand. Learn also to Mulligan properly, like go for unicas, salamanders, imprisoned dragon for aggrosword, odins for haven and shadow, oracles for rune
>>
Is Runecraft too reliant on its first few draws?
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>>170909225
>ESL
>>
>>170909225
The effect works on the enemy followers, not Aegis himself.
>>170909232
>turn 8 lion/angel+competitive spirit
>turn 9 time's up faggot now you can't do shit
>>
Dshit would be fine without 0pp 7/7s.
>>
>>170909225
>Turn 8 drop seraph
>Opponent drops Aegis
>Next turn I pop seraph but I don't win the game because he negates all card effects.

BROKEN
>>
New amulet


>>170909451
>>170909451
>>170909451
>>
we don't even know the exact mechanics of competitive spirit and people are already arguing about its viability with aegis.
is it considered to affect the players or the followers? (before you fuckers say HURR DURR UNAFFECTED BY EVERYTHINNN, ward is considered to be an effect on a player, so aegis CANNOT ignore ward.)
>>
I got tired of tryharding in ranked.
What are some fun and comfy non meta decks for unranked fun?
>>
Why nobody is making new thread??

Get in here boys!

>>170909578
>>170909578
>>
I really don't think the status quo is going to change that much. Sure Forest gets more safety to cockblock Sword/Blood/Shadow but I can't see other control decks wasting slows for Competitive Spirit outside of Haven using it to make Aigis an alternative win con.

Control decks would rather be working on ways to not be completely fucked by D-Shift instead of worrying about how they can shit on aggro more than they already do. I can see Neph uses Competitive Spirits to tell D-Shift to fuck off but that's about as far as I see the card going.
>>
>>170909434
Stop bullying The Elder Scrolls: Legends players, please
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>>170909348
>mordecai + competitive spirit sounds fun
It doesn't work really well with Neptits but dropping the amulet on t7 then Morde on t8 is gonna be funny as fuck.
>>
>Rowencucks think Serpent should have been a Dragon card
>They want to keep the effect, but without the "le lethal range" bullshit
Fuck outta here, if you want the card, you take it as is. You don't get to custom mod it to have no downsides whatsoever. Enjoy putting yourself at lethal for a pile of stats.
>>
>>170909696
>It doesn't work really well with Neptits
>implying

It forces your opponent to kill the LW followers you play and stalls face damage, both those things are great for Nep. Lurching corpse? It's technically a ward now, have fun with that. Unleasher? Also technically a ward, along with the Lich that comes out of him. That's not even including the later shenanigans, where playing it post-Nep just means you can't be hit by followers for 2 turns.

Sure, the whole thing gets a bit fucked by banish, but your whole deck gets a bit fucked by banish anyway. I'm definitely gonna use it as a 2-of at least, the potential is just too great.
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>>170908137
whatever seems to be the problem?
>>
>>170909434
Oh, that shit idol. I've good memory after all.
You goddamn brat.
>>
>>170900689
most of these arent optional and therefore dead cards vs haven
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