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Last thread is dead so I want to ask again, anyone has an updated list of cards for seraph?

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Need a concede, 71810.

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>>170818784
I am just guessing, pal. If you have some thoughts - feel free to share with me instead of just insulting.

>>170818717
http://www.strawpoll.me/12512283
Poll closes at the end of this thread.

But it's probably done. So memes it is.
Since this is a rare opportunity i figure this time we'll use round-robin style instead so people can get more games in.

You guys wanna leave the judging of memes to me or what? I can also leave them open so everyone can judge their validity.

>>170818893
i just responded you

>>170818893
Take 4 seconds and try to find one yourself you turbo faggot. Go back to hearthstone.

>>170818893
You question makes no sense, what's an "updated list of cards"? Seraph isn't a minmaxed tier 1 deck, every list will look slightly different. Not to mention the fact Seraph decks almost build themselves due to the nature of how mandatory some cards are.

Need a concede.

70789

http://www.strawpoll.me/12501645
http://www.strawpoll.me/12501637

>>170818974
memes are all decks that aren't t1,t2,t3 and t4. Some cards by itself can't be used like. Bahamut,Albert,Seraph and Nephtits

>>170819047
>french
>セクシーヴァンパイア

>>170818912
I smirk every time one of you concedes with Rowen, thank you anon and sorry for the delay.

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>>170819017
>Go back to hearthstone.
That's rude, anon.

>>170819191
Do I look like some sort of frenchie?

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Mods are asleep. Post Jeanne.

>>170818974
You're probably going to run into a problem with that. Just recognize you're going to get people bitching if you say their deck isn't a meme, or if someone shows up with a meta deck and says it's a meme and you say it isn't.

>>170819047
Oh you're right I forgot we were on a board talking about a japanese card game.
>>170819038
Yeah, it's Se ku shii Va n pa i a

>>170819176
>Vania
Hm... sucking blood from my peepee.

>>170818992
my bad, just checked your deck and I might have enough to craft the two odins, cheers mate

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10894
Need a concede please.

>>170819394
>odins in a seraph deck
dont fall for it

>>170818960
If you are anon figuring out face decks - think about blood, shadow and sword.

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Who knew the hag had it in her?

>mfw going first
>t4 tamer
>t5 lion + evolve to clear board
>t6 valhallan general on tiger

Can I get some fuckin (You)'s up in this bitch

>>170819394
You don't need to craft Odin they are just tech against some heavy control decks.

>>170819574
nice dude you won a t2

>>170819404
Thank you Luna.

If you hearthniggers have fucking questions about decks

C H E C K T H E O P

before asking fucking retarded questions

>>170819656
thanks for the you

Why the fuck can't I go face when I go face when I evolve a minion? I swear this game is buggy as shit sometimes. Sometimes my charge minions can go face and sometimes they can't, and there seems to be no way to tell which one is which.

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>have to win minimum 7 matches for your dailies
>tfw 7 win streak

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where mah bloodkins at

>>170819962
Read your fucking cards and stop ignoring the tutorial reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Why is rune craft such shit

>Spellboost
100% luck based no matter the rank

>Earth Rite
A weaker Haven craft where the field will become polluted with bad draws


Literally the fucking worst.

>>170819962
What?
Evolve doesn't allow you to go face.
Evolve only gives your followers Rush, which allows them to attack other followers, but not face.
Followers with Storm can attack face from the get-go.
Dumb Hearthcuck.

>>170819962
Storm and Rush are two different keywords, anon.

Evolving a follower gives it Rush, which allows it to attack another follower even on the turn of entry. If that follower already had Storm, then it can go face as a Storm follower normally would.

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>>170819962
>it's the game's fault, it's not like I'm too lazy to read

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So fun fact, during yesterday's 'stream' it seems like OBS was recording as well (at 2.5k no less), would explain the literal slideshow I see in the video, especially once the effects start rolling in.
Also the stream quality seems to go all over the place, going from slideshow to buttery smooth back to slideshow in an instant, see: https://my.mixtape.moe/jqtexu.webm
If anyone was there, did it look the same for you, the recording is at 2.5k so it'll look better, but the framerate is what I'm worried about.

Wonder how much better it would've went if it weren't recording, the CPU usage never exceeded 70% after all.
Does anyone know?

>>170820098
In english please

>the 1/1 1PP ignore wards was real

well fuck

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>>170820230
If that wasn't clear enough for you then there's nothing left for you here. You have to go back.

>>170820198
The only time it looked like complete trash was when you were playing. Worse than a slideshow, you'd get an entire turn in <10 frames.

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>>170820057
>Want to tempo bats but cygames wont let me

>>170820087
It's only luck if you're stupid. You have so much draw that even a modestly built deck is solid

It has an easier time hitting amulets and banish has advantages over destroy occasionally

Conjuring force decks are the true patricians runecraft

>>170820263
really ungas your bungas

>>170820316
I think you watch too much anime lol, you type like a jap

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>>170820325
Yeah that section is crap in the video as well.
Sorry to have put you through all that.

Anyone that play GBF know what Jeanne is like? I'm looking through art and I like how the character looks but I've never even seen her card get played so I don't know anything.

>>170819352
i was worrying about this too, but it should be fine. i mean what deck could this even apply to? an aggrosword disguised as cursed sword? most cases should be obvious enough.

i hope

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>>170819519
Tried shadow, it's decent but i think it was better pre gobu nerf. Without reaper in hand my options are quite limited and i am kinda struggling against heaven. Still very fun deck.
As for sword, panda variant looks good but it's not exactly aggro so i am looking for something faster.
Blood is actually fast but it feels like this deck have a lot of weaknesses. The major one is core mechanic about losing health. I think i want more flexible aggro deck. Judging from my encounters with haven and dragon they looked quite strong as face decks.

Do you have any tips or deck lists for a Nepthys deck that wins against d-shift?

>>170820657
Do you have some recomendations for paper to win against scissors?

>>170820657
Decks that go into turn 8+ don't win against dShift until dShift bricks.
Just take your loss like a man and move on.

>>170819189
no tierlisted decks and none of the usual win conditions. sounds good.
maybe i shoul just go with a low tier banlist of some sort

>>170820657
Yeah
-3 nep
-3 mordecai
-3 khawy
-3 pact with the nethergod
-3 foul tempest
-3 death breath
-3 undying resentment

+3 lesser mummy
+3 phantom howl
+3 cerberus
+3 skull beast
+3 shadow reaper
+3 sexton
+3 rabbit necromancer

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>>170819351

God tier
Sword craft, Blood Craft

High Tier
Havencraft, Dragoncraft

Mid Tier
Shadowcraft

low tier
Forestcraft

Shit tier
Runecraft

>>170821072
in T2? I agree

>>170821242
In terms of deck flexibility and ways to build the decks plus means of actually winning

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>>170820608
This list is from a storm haven enthusiast, but i think even he doesn't play it much anymore. it's slower than blood and shadow and doesn't have a finisher comparable to 'midrange' sword, but themis kinda gives you hope if you don't win in 6 turns.

>>170821072
Why did you putspace before "craft" only in god tier and why does it disturb me so much?

>>170821242
EZ 5-0 Tier:
Shadow
Sword

I-I guess, if I have to Tier:

Dragon
Rune
Haven

KYS Tier:
Forest
Blood

Although honestly, they're all capable of great things on the right day.

>>170821357
Thanks.

>>170818974
Is ptp forest a meme?

>>170821505
Right

>>170821505
wow this is hard

>>170821672
wouldn't say so. no.

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>>170821714
My first take two battle.

>>170821798
>>170821672
Roach can be banned too is a hard wincon

>>170821850
MIDDLE

>>170821850
Left without question. Game winning card and strong removal.

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28021, please spare this anon a concede!

>>170821850
http://usamin.love/card/andras/j_summon.wav
left

>>170821956
Thank you very much!

>>170821072
>shadow
>below anything but sword
lol

>>170821969
Is he just saying numbers then his name?

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Both looks bad.

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Does anyone else think the menu buttons are unnecessarily hard to click on? It takes like 3-4 clicks to make it go sometimes.

>>170821969
>sugoi sugoi! andrasu chan!

>>170822254
left is decent

>>170822280
This sounds like more of a problem on your end

>>170822254
Yeah, left.

>>170822280
Yeah, I get that a lot.
Mostly after tabbing back into the game.

>>170822254
Are you going to ask for advice on every pick?
Please don't
We have a guide in the OP on which cards to pick

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If I'm playing Satan Dragoncraft, how many copies of Satan, Bahamut, and Draconic Ferver should I run?

I've been running 1 Satan, 1 Bahamut, and 2 Fervers to make my Emissary tutoring fail less often and to reduce my chances of drawing dead cards vs aggro.

>>170822207
>「我はソロモン七十二柱が一、アンドラス」
>"I am one of Solomon's 72 demons, Andras"
If I'm not mistaken.

>>170822329
Andorasu-chan kawaii!

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>>170820590
>>170820887
Would this count as a meme?

>nothing in the new expansion changes ANYTHING

oh

baby

>>170822498

Is Fervor off Emissary really such a problem that you can't run 3 of them?

Seems like an orb, healing and draw is okay even if it makes you whiff satan.

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Khawy is op but right side looks good too.

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>>170822674

>>170822674
this is exactly what people were saying when RoB cards were being revealed

idiots like you should keep your idiot opinions to yourselves desu

>>170820590
F&G DShift is still DShift
Certain meme decks are leaps and bounds stronger than others, EidolonOfSkullfane doesn't stand a chance against SunSatan for example

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>>170822674
>he doesn't know about the new dragon lego Egg Layer

>>170822459
>>170822280
Once you tab back in to the game it does a little 'Now loading' phase
During said phase you can't interract with anything on the screen.
This usually lasts a second

>>170822816
>he thinks OTK roach and Daria aren't going to still be top dog

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>>170822803
Wrong pic.

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>>170822674

>JO support
>nothing changes

>>170822674
This is exactly what people said when RoB released.
"Enjoy 3 more months of Elana"

>>170822674
people said this about rob too, they were wrong

>>170822790
spending 6 mana to heal for 3, ramp and draw is a death sentence against most aggro decks

>>170822942
>he thinks Mid Sword and Elana aren't going to still be top dogs
t. idiots pre-rob

>>170822971
But nothing DID change about Haven decks...?
Elana and Seraph are both DE decks still.

>>170822945
Just take the Khawy, anon. Grasp isn't so awful that it'll lose you a game.

>play against sword
>both of us drop Satan
>double tsubaki on my servants
>le balanced man of double attack can easily trade into two 8/2 because reasons

Everything sword has is absolute cancer.

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You can now pick 3 cards from any different craft and add it to your deck, what do you add?

keep in mind its 3 MAX,doesnt matter if its three different cards or three copies of a single card

>>170822942
>"he thinks Elana Seraph and Midsword aren't going to still be top dog"

>>170822816
>>170822971
>>170822990
And the same with DE too fucking casuals

>>170822674
Wait until all the commons are revealed.

>>170822960
Trace, the egg is bad and that 2/3 ward is not that great either.

>>170823072
Are you retarded? People were saying those decks were still going to be top tier, not that they would still exist. The latter is obvious. They can't stop existing if they don't lose cards.

>>170823143
>seraph? more like 8pp do nothing!
>baha? dies to dod!
>eggs? might as well skip your first turn!

need a concede

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>>170823292
>eggs? might as well skip your first turn!
>tfw people are going to be complaining about eggs in a month

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>>170822618
seems ok, but i'm not too sure.
lacks memes.

>>170822824
none of the usual winconditions will be allowed. dshift included.
we want fresh meme decks, not bad versions of good decks.

it's gonna get confusing isn't it

Dragon legendary reveal when?
I need a good laugh

>>170823431
Stream in 40 minutes.

>>170823431
what the fuck is a 'dragon'?

>>170823040
...midsword is still tier 1 though

>>170823431
>It's actually something good
I want to believe

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wtf I love Shadowverse now

need a concede


47623

>>170823554
Not even close to being the same deck, debatable if you can even call it Midrange.

>>170823094
3x Dragon Oracle

Mana ramp is literally the most powerful mechanic in existence

>>170822824
> EidolonOfSkullfane doesn't stand a chance against SunSatan for example

You know nothing, kid. Are you SunSatan player? Let's have a 5 matches chalenge and'll see how are those decks fairing.
I'll be using "EidolonOfSkullfane" memes obviously.

36020

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>>170823292
>>170823389

>eggs
>literally just a undercosted version of an existing card where the tradeoff is that it has to wait a turn minimum to go off.
>the most hyped card dragoncraft card so far

Just when you think Rowen hit rock bottom, he just keeps falling.

>>170823568
They wouldn't dare to disappoint us after making us wait so long

They don't want dragon to have good cards, or noone will play with the nice neutral cards they keep pushing

>>170823525
you better not be fucking with me

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>>170823389
>mfw your winrate increases the more eggs you play in the early game

>>170823657
thanks vampychan

>>170823431
neutral lego's already been revealed

I want to see a doujin where Forste is impregnated by a dragon and has to lay eggs

>>170823401
Alright then, here's my lineup, I want to know in advance what's allowed or no
>Rose Queen
>JO
>Poly Roar dragon
>PtP snowman Dirt
>Tyrant Shadow
>SunSatan
>SkullfaneHaven
>Neutralcraft
>CarrotShadow
>Leonidas Sword

>>170823681
Of the few matches with Eidolon my experience was
>Get eidolon on a lot of amulets off
>Themis
>Manifestation of Fate → Skullfane
>Themis
>Drop PtP
>Bahamut
That being said I only have 5 games or so under my belt, I just don't enjoy haven that much

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>>170823883
delete this

>>170823908
girls don't lay eggs you fucking retard

>>170824042
Forte is a demon though isn't she

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I'm a hardcore Dragon fan, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in the sky where I would often train with Aiela in the mountains and help Forte with raising the Maelstrom Dragons, but one day as I was talking to Forte, we went to my wyvern for a private talk. She immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave her a confused look and she continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" She then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, silly!"
This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. She then said, "I talked with Rowen and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for riding a wyvern, you just have to do...one thing". She then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" She then said "Rowen said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." She giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick... Just play Bloodcraft.
I then agreed and she gave me a kiss on the forehead, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased the Bloodcraft premade. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my climbing isn't doing so grand.

>>170823731
except haven and dragon are entirely different crafts so the cards aren't comparable like that

>>170824234
tl;dr

kys weebcucks

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>>170824462

>>170823681
First match after Satan. Close call, though.

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>>170824462

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>log in
>no daily rewards
>jewed by dst for the 2nd time today

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>>170824736

I-is Cygames okay?

They didn't get replaced by Blizzard did they?

>>170824736
You actually got them, check the "Buy packs" page.

>>170824571
Second match goes to Eidolion memes, thanks to the second Seraph.

>>170824736
Literally me.

The worst part is that we have to wait that extra hour every fucking day.

>>170824736
Reset is in an other hour.

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helping dragon to lay eggs

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Not bad for a first win in take two.

>>170824736
>>170824871
Dumb americucks

>>170825284
kill yourself

>>170825284
Gross

>>170825284
Please stop shilling this shit show

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>>170824234
This is a really good shitpost

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Thank you based Wolfbolt.

>>170824993
The third match goes to Satan. 8 damage in face is scary.

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>mulligan 3 different cards
>get the other copies
easiest concede of my life

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>>170825482

He's not the only anon that likes Maid Dragon.

>>170825561
>not even maxed on level
Absolutely disgusting

>>170824234
Is this pasta?

>>170825602
What would your parents think?

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>>170823389
>ramping until mana 6
>play 3 eggs on 6
>spam emotes until they concede
>THIS ONE'S FOR MY FAMILY.BMP

>>170825687

They'd be surprised it wasn't shonen.

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>can't decide to not use shadows
>get cucked next turn because of it

And this is why I will never enjoy shadowcraft

>>170825978
>want to use low mana salami minder and something else
>can't
Lots of crafts get cucked by enhance and Cygames stupidity, anon

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>>170825482
>>170825473
>>170825421
rude

>>170825562
And again Silent Rider goes for face.

>>170826076

>posting 3DPD

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Lord of the flies is amazing.

>>170826076
>cow

>>170824993
>Seraph
No idea how you managed to fit that in, not to mention Seraph will be banned in this tourney

>>170826076
>fat
>3D
>cheap ass cosplay
Disgusting

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>>170826076
3D isn't allowed here.

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VAMPY CHAN NO MAKEMAKE

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>>170826076
FUCKING GROSS DELETE THIS

>>170826217
>one 1/2 follower by t8
Rowen is addicted to memes.

>>170826435
Well played, cow.

>>170826063
Yeah, enhance is just as bad sometimes. It's just annoying that a core part of the class mechanic fucks you so much.

But hey, at least its not as bad as vengeance.

>30+ 2-4 cost cards
>draw literally all the remaining 10 6-8 cost cards in the first 4 turns

Fucking stop it.

>>170826574
>But hey, at least its not as bad as vengeance.
d-delet this

>>170826276
Is there a list of the banned cards somewhere?

>two Juno's Secret Laboratories at the same time
There are geneva conventions against this, right?

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Holy shit

>>170824269
Yeah, Haven actually has a card that synergizes with heal.

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>>170826779
Nice 30 damage, Arisa-chan.

>>170823945
The ones that have ptp and satan are not allowed. The others are ok.

Personally i'd allow snowman dirt ptp but we gotta be consistent.

I'm not sure about about a few cards, namely mordecai right now.

>>170826151
>>170824993
>>170824571
>>170823681
>>170825562

1 - 4 Memes have lost!

But my draw of Seraphs was really bad. Only 1 time I got both when I opened 20 cards already. Also Skullfane was in my hand just once and I never actually droped it too.

It seems I am only good in talk.

>play Nep
>Nep, Morde and Kamura in my opening 3 draws every single fucking time
>don't draw removal
>don't draw wards
>die

I want to fucking scream.

>>170827076
Mordecai should probably be out. Odin?

>>170824993
I fit in 3 Seraphs, 1 Eidolion and 1 Skullfane. I could have put 1 more Eidolion, but that would be overkill.

>>170825284
>post cow
>call it a dragon

>>170826710
Basically everything that's used nowadays as a wincon is banned
so that means
>Satan
>Seraph
>DShift
>PtP
>Bahamut(Probably)
>Nep
Probably missing a few

>>170826975
irrelevant

>>170820585
Build your crystal hoard, gamble well, and spark her. It's all about playing with your waifu's dude

>>170820887
Honestly you're better off of working out a whitelist of acceptable meme decks and techs and people just roulette what they get.

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>>170818717
Why is Erika so crazy?

>>170827351
lol at banning ptp but not bahamut

also i suppose you should add roach and fucking daria

>>170827284
Who wants odin when odin targets are kill?

>>170827351
>Ban every single decent card from other classes
>Don't touch Roach and Albert
Right...

>>170827076
now that hard wincons are banned maybe handcapinng aggro?

like you can't have more than 3 1pp and 2pp cards in your devk.

>>170827491
That why I was asking.

(Khawy removal, anyway)

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>>170826502
It was quite fierce on previous turn. Also got third from rowen again, 3/5 in the end. Guess i got strong class with decent cards.

>>170827076
>that trip
I don't know you but archives and google always do. Pure cancer. /sp/, /mlp/, not even a new trip.

>>170822674
>Disco-pendant control is unchained
>Flute win con
>Draconification viable
Rowen's unchained bro. Nothing holding him back now.

>>170822790
4 mana do nothing tempo loss is pretty savage.

>>170822918
>Adds an egg to your hand when you don't have one in it
>Stacks the nests while it's still on the board
>Adds last word: Add a nest to the bottom of your deck when this amulet is destroyed
It's pretty tight.

>meme tournaments already
zzzzzzzzzz

>>170827572
>>170827476
I did say that I missed a few
Daria, Roach and Albert most likely banned as well
Same with Phantom Cerberus

These are predictions anyway, TO has the final say

>>170827835
Boy that sounds boring

>open 4 packs
>otohime and erasmus
yay vials

>>170818974
I think there should be a list of cards you have to use X of and/or a banlist. Trying to build new decks with some constraints would be a lot more fun than just bringing whatever uncommon decks you can and arguing about which of them are memes.

>>170827910
yeah 10 damage face bang and boom and 11 t6 like in vanilla is really fun...

>>170827934
Wow wtf erasmus is going to be meta with the new rune legendary

>>170823731
Do you actually pay attention when you're beating up rowen autists? It fills in the occasional 1pp leftoevers we get. It's hand neutral. And it heals helping stabilize against aggro/burn. Holy water you have to not do something, eggs are just freebies with your ramp leftovers after your ahead of curve play

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>>170827779
>/mlp/

34435

Can I have a win please?
No concede

>>170827934
Otohime's fine, Erasmus is GOAT with ginger and any guardian golem deck

>>170827954
Agreed.

>>170828072
>he's a furry fanfic forum faggot

>cerberus control
NOOOOOOOO PLEASE NOT LIKE THIS

>>170828285
left

>>170828285
Honestly I would go left.

>>170828285
Left

>>170828058
not to mention holy water wastes 2pp on the same turn it could be used for a follower

the only problem I see with eggs is that they're too slow when topdecked later in the game, but they're fine when played early, the earlier the better, a good comparison would be with sacred plea

Here's a list of one card wincons in the game:-
Dorothy
Albert
Roach
D.Shift
Seraph
Satan
PtP
Mordecai
Gensis Dragon
Forte

Here's a list of 2 card wincons:-
Wolfbolt
ForteUrd

If you ban anything on the list, and leave the others, you make an obvious tier 0 format. Everything else is fine, yes, even Bahamut, because removalverse. Shit like Mary is also fair, because a billion card combo isn't really a hard wincon. She's as legit as Atomy, and he's a joke.


Banning the hard wincons also gives way to meme wincons like Rose Queen, Pamela, Snowman+Force, Laura+Servant, Azazel (pretty much all Blood """wincons""").

>>170823401

Snowman/conjuring force rune
Conjuring dirt rune
Conjuring ptp rune
Dragonbond/Magisa Reina Simalcrum Conj Force
Flame&Glass DShift
Dirt Rune
Flame&Glass guardian wall dirt rune

Ambush royal
Ambush Royal feat. Flame&Glass
Cursed general combo royal
Castle Arthur's Resolve Royal
Otomemes tempo royal

Saha Ramp dragon
Ramped pendant storm dragon
Overflow board flood disco draw dragon
Polyphonic Ramp
Pheonix roost Ramp
Fluted spire disco flood
JO dragon
JO Deathmist ramp dragon
Discard/JO dragon
Discard dragon
OTK Discard dragon
Ramped pendant ward flame&Glass dragon
Ramped grea-hydra boost dragon
Midrange boost dragon feat. Zirnitra
Cannot be attacked boost dragon
Megalorca Simalacrum Seacraft boost Dragon

Tyrant Lord Atomemes
Midrange Atomemes
Burial banquet Atomemes
Last word shadowcraft
Phantom Dragon Mid range

Non-Roach combo forest
Tempo Rose queen Forest
Festival control forest
Titania's tempo forest
Titania-Reina Simulacrum tempo forest

Soul Dealer vengeancecraft
Soul Dealer Draincraft
Dark General, Azazel, laura-servant Control Blood
Laura Neutralcraft blood
Moriana Control Blood

Eido-Skullfam Count havencraft
Laelia defense Haven
Sun Satan Haven
Spell immune stat boost Haven

Reina-Simalacrum Neutralcraft
Well-spear boost Neutralcraft

Man this sword deck where they play a storm/rush literally every turn is so fun to play against

Cygames made the right thing nerfing rune and forest, sword deserves to be the indisputable best class every single expansion

>>170828453
>No mention of 'Cant attack' control forest

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>>170828183
Thanks Vampy
I don't have Vania pic so I will post a panda instead

>>170828486
At least it can still be interacted with, the anti-control memes like nep tits and D Shift are far more irritating as a dragon shitter.

>>170828486
Daria is still worse. No boardclears? You just lost.

>>170828486
They need perfect curve for that or else they usually run out of cards. Aggro Blood is a lot more consistent

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CONFUSING

>>170827779
>>170828262
>>170828072
I've only ever used it for this thread though. i guess i shouldn't have used such a simple word. it was ##dragon

New trip now.

>>170827284
is in since seraph is out.

>>170827597
too many rules, i dunno. i think aggro should be allowed. it should be fine as long as albert is banned. other tiered aggro decks are banned as well of course.

This is getting convulted as fuck. What do you guys think about this:
>We have a list of meme decks that are allowed
>Only 1 of each deck is allowed in the tourney
>Each player basically represents that deck/meme
Some anon posted lists of meme decks a few threads ago didn't he?

Alternatively i'll just make a banlist.

>>170828285
I, too, would go left. It's safer overall given that this is the first pick.

Right would be an easy bet as final pick for a deck lacking in midgame though.

>>170828486
Dont worry they nerfed it by making commander craft usable next expansion :^)

greetings friends I am shadowverse player from japan

in japan we are worship luna as best girl

who is best girl in america?

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Don't have 1 play points followers yet.

>>170828625
>Interact with storm
okay bud

>>170828486
Sword in general is just not fun to play against. All of their cards are Storm, Rush, Ward or flood the field.

Did anyone else not get their daily rewards

>>170828692
Monika summons a 1pp

>>170828625
There are viable storms than viable wards. This can be "interacted with" for storms is a meme. The offensive player, the one playing the storms, dictates the trades, and they're not really fucking hard trades with a deck filled with rush/DoD/Tsubaki. All his shit goes face or is removal on a buddy that doesn't need to waste evos (that will be used to go face).

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>just Kamura bro
>a heal a removal and an invisible body is OP

Well Kamura does absolutely nothing against 1/1 fucking tokens
Nep does fucking nothing against 1/1 spam
The only thing that does fucking something is Foul Tempest which of course all 3 copies of it are at the bottom of my deck. This is the 5th game in a row where all I fucking face is 1/1 spam from elves and sword.

>>170828648
>muh bricks

>>170826435
>censored double Ds

>>170828784
Ah, right, then i'll go with left.

>>170828863
too lazy to install that everytime i switch accounts

>>170828692
Obvious left, Monika wins games, or at least prevents you from being steamrolled when going first. Conscription is tempo loss, and tempo loss is suicide in take two. 1/3 is completely serviceable even on curve without buffing.

>>170828567
I still haven't figured out a way to get it to work.If you try to tempo and use the stalls to buy time for athena/vines to protect your board you're just a bad tempo list. You can't use generators and pixie's to fill your hand for constant wolf assisted tia/giant/gigas/canopies/queen dump until they keel over because storming removalverse is aids to an at the end of your turn gimmick.

>>170828625
>At least it can still be interacted with
Oh yes, I really love it when my wards interact with fangblade slayer

>>170828649
we can use this >>170828453 list or some variation of it.

>>170828402
this also sounds good

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>>170828668

Luna is best girl here as well my nippon friend.

>>170828860
Daria still bricks after nerf

>>170828668
Erika.

>>170828668
Erika.

>>170828649
Look, just make a list of banned cards and stick to that.

>>170828668
Erika

>>170828402
Who's pamela? Pascale?

>>170828843
>I want to keep automatically winning against control, but have a "fair" match up (only fair match ups are ones where I'm not disadvantaged in any way) against aggro
Shadow and D.Shift subhumans need to be gassed.

>6 losses 1 win in ranked
>pick csword and face dshift
>pick aggro blood and face haven

Bring daria and roach back.

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>>170828668
Don't listen to these dumb ungamains.

>>170829013
Banning wincons sounds a lot better to me than making a list of decks you have to choose from. The point of memes is creativity and the humor of seeing some unlikely bullshit pulled off. If all the memes are codified we don't get that.

>>170828697
You can ward it. Can't do a single thing about D Shift except play aggro. Can't do a single thing against neptits except banish (which you can't have enough of as anything but runecraft and havencraft, so it becomes category 1 again, play something else).

>>170829032
Fucking this. America loves dyke, no wonder Tumblr is our favorite hosting site.

>>170828649
Step 1: Make sure to give an initial banlist to give people an idea to build around
Step 2: A few days in advance, make sure that people submit a deck to see if it's valid, if not, let them know immediately
Step 3: Try to enjoy it, it's not a serious tourney, no need to get your pantsu in a twist

>>170828402
Other wincons:

CoC
Pascale
Olivia
Leonidas (?)
Neptitties
Bahamut
Lucifer (?)

>>170829013
Like the other guy said, basically make the ban list>>170828402

>>170829216
>posts unga toddler
???

>>170828769
>flood the field with 1/1 or 1/2 followers
>inb4 Floral Fencer, 1 evo point for 1 shit follower and one good follower + floral fencer
Literally every craft has enough board clear cards to deal with this.

>>170829029
>Craft with the most consistent draw in the game
>Bricks
How sad I am for runeplayers :(

>>170829013
I forgot to mention Phantom Howl and Cerberus, a huge oversight. Definitely ban PH at the very least, that card is easily tier 0 material in a no wincon format.

>>170828668
Eris.

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>>170828668
Erika

>>170829164
That wasn't even aggro. He played fucking Aurelia at some point.
Aren't "control" supposed to be good against aggro?

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>>170829296
blood takes way more skill than evolving albert on turn 5 and 9

>>170828843
If only there was some kind of neutral card which could deal with that.

>>170829428
>evolve lancer on t6
WEW LAD

>>170829370
If we nerf all control deck aggro decks will be crazy is really easy to rolll over anything with banner memes and aggro bat

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>>170829032
>>170829107
>>170829141
>>170829216
>>170829416

Goddamn it you guys.

>>170828668
Probably Erika since whenever I see a non-ching chong name it's always some ungashitter playing a full storm deck

>>170829272
Leonidas is an extremely oppressive win con/ Expecially with arthur's light enabling ~9dmg storms from hand a turn. Just a shame it's slower than cursed general-assassin cursed storm royal

>>170828486
Just wight king ghost rider bro

>>170829315
3/3 worth of value for 1 evo point on T4 is bad?

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>>170829490
Here let me play my tutor for my turn 6 imp lancer

oh wait

>>170829272
That's not what "wincon" means. Otherwise every single follower is a wincon. Wincon means it hits the field, you're winning next turn or won.

CoC is fucking removal and a beatstick.
Pamela is a meme, requires a board.
Olivia is removal and tempo, not a wincon.
Leonidas, true, forgot that one.
Nep isn't a wincon wthout Mordecai.
Bahamut isn't a wincon, he's removal.
Lucifer? What?

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>>170829032
>>170829107
>>170829141
>>170829416
>>170829557
>whore that takes futa dick all day over purest cinammon roll

>>170829150
Yes, Pamela is Pascale's Japanese name.

>>170829634
>insect fucker
yikes

>>170829502
Righteous Devil and Rev single handedly crush every single aggro deck in the game without heavy finishers like Albert, or free infinite free resources like Dorothy.

The scariest deck in a no wincon format is actually Elana, which is why you don't ban Bahamut.

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>>170828668
Luna is the best girl in America too.

>>170829476
I am playing foul tempest though can't you read? It's just that all 3 copies are in the last 8 cards in the deck.

Is it safe to liquefy a fourth Albert?

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Banlist it is.

>>170829272
Nep is ok without morde i think? People are sure to whine about khawi but dunno.
Pascale is my waifu fuck you.

Bahamut should be on it. Lucifer probably too, depending on saha?

>>170828402
Also what about aggro blood? Not a single of their cards is banned.

>>170829950
He's not getting nerfed, Sword is Cygames poster craft lol

I think banning wincons is a good start but that might just lead to a meta where it's optimal to run aggro/anti-aggro.

Maybe make a list of official meme wincons since that's what we really mean by memes. Going along until some total bullshit is pulled off like the burst discard dragon deck.

>>170829618
instead use t2 to punish the opponent for playing followers :^)

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Last choice.

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>>170829806
kys futa lover, Arisa is pure.

>>170829626
If you don't ban Bahamut all the tournament will be SahaLuciBaha ramp.

Just saying.

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These sword fuckers are getting ballsy with Dorothy now almost completely gone.

>>170830057
Right.

>>170829634
>Breeding pot
>Pure
I'm a little disappointed al lwe got so far for insect craft is beetle warrior but there's still 2 lego, 2 silver, 2 bronze to go.

>>170829920
>neutral
>tempest
hmm

>>170830013
At least you get your turn 5 imp lancer on every turn 5, unga retard.

>>170830010
Making a list of meme decks is retarded, since people aren't allowed to use something original.
Just ban more common decks and force people to use homebrews or known memes.

>>170829970
Read
>>170829810

Control Blood and Elana shit on aggro's life.

>>170830140

Beetle warrior's pretty nice, he's a roach that you don't feel guilty about trading with.

>>170829970
>Lucifer probably too, depending on saha?
I'd put them on the banlist too.

>>170829970
Good question. Ban Yurius maybe? But he's a literal bronze so idk

>>170830156
I know you meant barrage, but I'm already playing tempest. Why would I need fucking more?

WHEN DO WE GET THE YURI PRINCESSES
I WANT BOTH HIME-SAMA AND SERIA'S HIME-SAMA

>>170830112
If you ban Bahamut, Elana loses to nothing. The format will be aggro and antiaggro, and Elana shits on both hard.

I couldn't care less about Erika being a Knight. What I do is to praise dykes all day on twitter, I even worship and shills tranny anons. I'm happy sucking them 24/7 in threads.
Erika is the america's N°1.

>>170830419
This.

>>170830489
DAE this???

>>170830212
I agree that making a list of meme decks is retarded. I said to make a list of meme cards though.

If you don't have that everyone will either be running aggro (with tier 2 minions if you ban the standard aggro ones) or a generic control framework to counter that. The tourny will get won by netdeck dirt rune or something because all the good wincons are gone.

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Who's /ready/ here

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Guys, if you gonna sandbag, at least try to hide it. don't go using 12k sleeves from 4 ranked seasons ago...

>>170829970
Now that I think about it, there really is no way to balance the game like that. Just it mandatory to have a meme wincon to participate. This bars aggro players, and people playing meta decks minus a banned card.

>>170828402
>one card wincon
>5 damage storm
What did e mean by this?

>>170830419
t. pedophile

>>170830359
So if you think your deck has enough anti token aoe what are you complaining about?

>>170828402
>no Garuda
>no Temptress
>bans forte and genesis
ayy

>>170830575
>Tutorable 25% of your health from hand 3 times is not a wincon
Storm is the best wincon in the game.

>>170822942
>otohime is such a bullshit that will never leave this meta

>>170830679
The fact that ALL 3 copies are in the last 8 fucking cards in the deck.

>>170830393
Elana is like Pascale, though, so dunno.

Also: Levi, ban or not?

>>170830715
>3 times
I don't think you understand what "one card wincon" means.

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>This will never be you

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>>170830010
What we're doing right now is more akin to a tier restricted/low tier tourney. The vote was for memes. But it's difficult to accomplish.

>>170830249
I'm sure aggro blood will still function somewhat even without him.

>>170830212
we could make it that you can submit your own memes too.

C-can we just play highlander?

>>170828402
>>170829272
>no elana
>no garuda
>no themis
>no plea
>meanwhile gutting every other class

t. Haven shitter