/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

first for I don't know how to play

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>>170814483
First for dwarven steel best steel.

Purge all none generalist

>>170814765
>implying there is any other steel

leave your cave, urist

>>170814808
Goblins and humans should have access to steel too.

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>>170814808
No.
My cave is my haven.

>>170814894
>propose humans and gobbos to have steel
>gobbos get 2x the steel by killing humans

Nice try ba(àáâã@ª)x

>>170814894
Only if they seize it from the dwars and then it needs to be spread, not automatically gained by their whole civ.

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Reminder that dwarves are SJWs

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So how did your story about the drawing children continue anon?

>>170815045
gobbos are neoliberals

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>>170815113
I love anime girls with big tits

Let's post some

>>170815113
>>170815187
ironic shitopsting is still shitposting
fucking stop

>>170815262
I actually want to know how the story ends.

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>>170815113
>>170815187
As a community member, I really appreciate these posts.

I hope some autist doesn't come and ruin our fun claiming that it's "off-topic".

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>>170815113
>>170815187
I prefer anime monster girls with big tits

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This is what we should all strive to become.

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>>170815306
me too, what I don't want is pure shitposting
still, that anon was probably scared away by the shitstorm, so we may never know the ending

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>>170814483
Im sorry to not follow the OP, but I wanna settle this now


baby-opressing tyrant here

so, I went some minutes to look up some stuff and when I come back, the thread is completely filled with discussion and people pissed about stuff

I have tried to give back some fun to this general several other times now
If the majority of this general believes that every post that doesnt have 'Toady' 'Dwarf Fortress' or any other code word doesnt belong here, I must acept it, and I will stop posting about it
I dont like people asking me to tell a story and then getting assblasted because they are listening to a story
If you wanna behave like the children of my story, that's up to you
but the next time that you complain at the 123th 'hey guys, what music do you listen DF to?' (we had those of that in the previous thread, btw. two) or any other unoriginal and tiresome post, remember that the reason no-one posts amusing or instructive things is because of you and only you

Jesus christ, find some middle ground between joining a discord or being fucking content nazis /dfg/, I actually beg you to do it or we will die as a general

Now I will fuck off to make some needed stuff irl, see you in the next thread

I wish raging forest fires were a thing it would be so sweet to chase away elf refugees in drows

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>>170815308
I know right? /dfg/ is such a nice general!

>>170815308
I told you it would bleed into the next thread

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>>170815420
Please continue anon-san, we want to hear your story, uguu~

>>170815420
I was actually enjoying your story, and I thought it was fine (as any offtopic discussion once in a while is) because the thread was just a couple posts away from bump limit anyway.

But really, fuck off. The discussion died and should stay dead. If you want to improve the general then shut the fuck up.

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>>170815420
Oh ok, bye!

We need to ban anime.

>>170815465
I mean, it generally is, it's just a bit "special" sometimes
>>170815420
it seemed like the majority were interested in your story, some people should really take a chill pill. this general has always had quality off-topic discussion sometimes and I don't remember any shitstorms about it unless it was really getting out of control like that one retarded teleology discussion, maybe this has changed during my few months of absence

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>>170815752

I honestly think /dfg/ should die and stay dead until the next update.

It will be good for the general and the posters.

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>>170815951
maybe we do need a bit of a break

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>>170816018
But this actually fun.

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>>170815886
Wanna fight anime girl?

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>/dfg/ realized /rwg/ is ded
>literally 1 minute later /rwg/ is up again

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>>170816131
As if you could hope to challenge me...
fufufufu~
Pitiful.

>>170815951
I fear that we'd return only to find a new /dfg/ general that exists only to troll, say, the minecraft general or something.

/dfg/ has lived through rougher weather and longer release intervals before. The problem is that we've got some bad hombres here at the moment, and they've been here for the last two months, using every excuse to stir up a shitstorm.

>>170815951
It definitely would be. The discussion here has gotten to be shit tier, and the posters have gotten to be aggressive autists. I'm going to guess it's the content drought and /rwg/ taking a big fat shit on this general, but the quality of discussion here has gotten to be so terrible.

>>170815951
I'd still like to know what to do about my broker.
>>170811490

>>170815861
>retarded teleology discussion
That's not a combination of words I see very often.

>>170816258
Actually, I started the new thread in the hope that things would calm down over here.

I named it "generic edition" because I don't know shit about Rimworld.

>>170815861
Just leave it. If you want to keep arguing about whether off topic discussion belongs in /dfg/, the last thread is still up. Dragging it into another thread isn't helpful no matter which side you were on.

>>170815951
>>170816018
/dfg/ has been alive for years, during content feast and famine. It may need a bump once in a while during the lean times, but that's no reason to let it die. We're always slow anyway, and that's fine.

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>>170815951
There are generals that survived much worse than what we have here.
Just post about dwarves and hope it passes over.

>>170816302
Aggressive autism is just a defense mechanism and not a problem in any way.

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>>170816258

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>>170816268
*spawns lava and then water encasing you in obsidian*
Pathetic...

>>170816389
You're sure you've requested the trader? The merchants are actually trading and not just stuck? Green jobs are supposed to be interruptible any time, and I've never seen one that didn't interrupt immediately when job came available. Trading is very high priority, only eat/drink/sleep and purple needs jobs take precedence.

>>170816434
>Dragging it into another thread isn't helpful no matter which side you were on.

take note everybody, from a shitposting connoisseur, this is the end result every time some retarded sperglord crashes a discussion people are interested in even slightly. If you care about thread quality even one bit, you learn to let it go. Take this as a learning experience /dfg/, and don't make the same mistake again. You must let off topic shitposting take its natural course, or risk dire consequences in interfering.

>>170816475
>pic
Wow, is that pic part of a set or something? I can't find it at the moment, but I swear I have a pic saved with a very similar style.

>>170816389
he should move his ass over there soon, if you really want to make sure you could delete the location he's socialising at
as the teleology discussion, some guy brought up that it's scientifically proven that the purpose of human life is creation of offspring, several people told him that science doesn't deal with things like purpose, he didn't get it and the whole thing just spiraled out of control with like 100 posts
>>170816434
>Dragging it into another thread isn't helpful no matter which side you were on.
agreed. this problem can be resolved by everyone just chilling the fuck out

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>>170816637
*the obsidian shudders and begins to move*
...
*breaks out of the obsidian*
So you have some skill... I suppose I underestimated your power.
Well I have important business to attend to, ta-ta!
*teleports away*

>>170814998
I actually really like this idea.

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>>170816942
This won't be the last time you'll face me, I'll be back, stronger...

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>>170816839
No idea, sorry.

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Do we know what exactly happened to that guy?

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>Kiror Teethdrills was a male gorlak born in 141 and died in 270 (Old Age).
>Goal: Immortality

>>170817336
Holy shit my browser almost crashed when I opened that pic

>>170816754
>>170816874
Yes, I'm sure I've requested the trader, and the merchants are still trading. The only wild animals are on the other side of my fort, it's the 4th of Sandstone and there have been no messages about them leaving. I guess if building walls nearby (but not blocking their way at all) causes problems that might be it, since I'm trying to block off everything but a wagon path to the depot while they're trading. I guess I'll wait one more dorf day or so and then delete the tavern room. I need to do that at some point anyway, since one of the musical instruments seems to have gotten stuck and I want to see if that unsticks it.

>>170817432
and I thought my firefucks was an unstable piece of piss

The TRANS_NAME] thing is just because of a typo in the code (leaving out the [ ) right?

>>170817601
Firefox is objectively superior.

it's faster than IE, and doesn't spy on you like Chrome.

>>170817742
nah, it's because "TRANS_NAME" is how the name of a character is defined in the speech files. when a character uses the line without having a name (i.e. due to being a nameless animal person out in the bush), they just use the variable instead.

>make elephant man adventurer
>max out strength
>max out hammerman
>dfhack in a masterwork slade maul
its like im the Babe Ruth of Dwarf Fortress, everyone i hit goes flying

>>170817743
I mean, yeah it is superior to literal shit like IE or Chrome, but I'm still thinking of switching over to palemoon or waterfox or some other install gentoo type shit, since my firefucks crashes fairly often

>>170817854
Then why is there a ] but not a [ ?
Initially nameless historical figures can come up with a name when you talk to them, so I'm not so sure.

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>>170816839
Found a similar one in my DF folder.
Maybe it really is a series.

>>170817570
Well, simply waiting did the trick, though it took until the 6th of Sandstone. I wonder if this might be due to the fact that he had to drink water instead of booze last time he drank. I'm not sure why that happened, but I'll be rectifying that particular issue soon.

>>170817951
I never even used a danger room to train. I really should try it.

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>Cobar Gugiradis a competent axebro is on the ground surrounded and littered with vomit, blood, dwarven body parts, and goblin/dwarf bodies
>That little happy face he has while I find out his neck got crunched by a goblin's iron boot and is mortally paralyzed
>Unable to move at all, choking on blood and suffocating
>No dwarven peasants able to help drag him back in time even if he was rescue-able
>Check his relatives
>Wife, Only Daughter
>Find out his wife is the very same fisherdwarf who didn't seem to notice a large Ettin charging her way and got her head caved in a few weeks back
>Only daughter shortly after entered a depression and killed herself by refusing to eat or drink
>As he's laying there, suffocating, I see his feelings of inevitability.

Strike on, bro

>>170818084
>Initially nameless historical figures can come up with a name when you talk to them
I'm gonna need proofs for this, anon.

As far as I know, the only way an animal (as well as a "wild" animal person) can get a name is by killing a hist fig.

Talking to animals in adv mode creates nameless hist figs.

>>170817890
>dfhack in a masterwork slade maul

How do you do that? Can you select quality with create-items?

>>170818189
I wonder what this game's age rating would be if it was ever commercially released (which is rather unlikely)

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>>170818129
I found the one I was talking about.

It definitly appears to be the same artist.

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>>170818084
Wilderness creatures don't have a language file associated with them.
The text saying TRANS_NAME] is an actual bug and thus behaves unpredictably.
The Toad should just use angel or kobold languages for them.

>>170818171
It seems that they were nerfed pretty hard recently.
Never tried to set one up after that update though.

>>170818386
createitem [weapon tag] [material tag] [optional: amount]

im not sure how it decides the quality but i only got masterwork and exceptional

>>170818171
They don't work anymore. Force translation killed them. Good riddance, IMO.

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>>170817378

What happens if you atom smash a atom smasher?

>>170819136
It returns 50% more bars than you used to make it

>>170816018
>tfw nein dots won't return to save us from shitposts

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>>170819243
lmao

>>170819703
>return
he never actually went anywhere, he just doesn't post in every thread
>>170819741
fucking sick

>>170818790
They're not even necessary anymore now that sparring was buffed back up to "spar 1.5 years for legendary dwarves" level.

>>170820425
this
still, you could probably play around with symptoms and skilled doctors to make them immune to pain or something
there is still room for experimentation

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>>170814894
But they haven't solved the riddle yet.

>the age of necromancy
>the age of goblins
>the age of necromancy II
>the age of giant elephants
how all worlds should be

>>170818519
>It seems that they were nerfed pretty hard recently.
>>170818790
>They don't work anymore.
Welp, I lived without it so far, I can go on. Though I could just reroll to an earlier version if I get the itch.

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>>170820860
>m-muh weeaboo safe space
If the entire site was supposed to be used to discuss anime, then why are there special boards for it as well?

We keep /a/ in /a/ for the same reason that we keep /pol/ in /pol/, that is, not because we're offended by it, but because different boards have different purposes, and we want to preserve the diversity by not having the exact same discussions over several boards.

>>170821097
replaying earlier versions can be a ton of fun. I started playing on the version with musical instruments, taverns and playable animal men, and every once in a while I like to play a fortress in the old 2d boatmurdered era version.
It's especially good because the wiki has separate sections for the older versions too.

>>170820425
They were never really necessary if you knew the workaround for the bug that prevented proper sparring in .34.11. They were more effective than normal training then, and even after the nerf in .40 they were still more effective for brand new recruits. Not a good argument for using them, any more than any other exploit, but still true.

>>170820860
Fuck off weeaboo.

Are there any rape mods?

>>170822279
it's easy to throw one together yourself.

obok meatgod may have been fake, but you can mod the things in in a similar way.

>>170822380
It surprises me that to this day people at bay12 forums still believe in that obok shit

Why did one of my dwarfs die from dehydration while sitting in a tree?

>>170820860
Weebshit belongs on /a/ and the other anime-oriented boards but if you want to discuss it here that's completely fine.

>>170823428
Anon you should know that you can't call people newfags anymore or else you'll get called a retarded oldfag.

>>170823467
No water maybe?

>there's a fuking 1:03:42 audio of Toady talking about DF just released
>From the comments, he talks extensively about the mechanics of the game and its future ones too
Thank you, generous god. with this I'll be able to last another month

>http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/3/2/7/327b9b75735864b4/LG030_DWARFFORTRESS_TARNADAMS.mp3?c_id=14446706&destination_id=397378&expiration=1489350327&hwt=308073bee1372973b23f9234d2fe7def

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>>170823636
All those shitposts... lost, in time... like tears... in rain :-DDDDDD
Dime do die.

Is it just me or are skulls a lot harder than they used to be in the newest version? Even with a superdwarven strength vampire a heavy warhammer strike to the head nearly always seems to break peoples' necks instead of their brains, and stabbing through a skull in one go is really hard as well

>>170823428
don't claim you're from the time when /a/ was the only board, because you're not
and even if you were, look around you. this isn't an anime website anymore, it moved past that years ago

>>170823467
Something on the ground spooked him so hard that he didn't want to come down.
You should periodically check for those dwarves and cut down their trees so they can return to society.

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What other games does /dfg/ play?

Personally Im fond of Pokemon and Fire Emblem to help with the long wait between releases.

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>>170824184
In my opinion, only former regulars of /l/ should be allowed to post.

>>170824184
/a/ was never the only board though, if I remember correctly at the start there was only /a/ and /b/ which was Random/Anime

>>170823918
will check out later, the implementation of magic is what really interests me
I personally hope magic is very powerful but so volatile that in most situations using it would be madness
i.e. a spell that allows you to do a dragon breath of sorts, but you can very easily die in the resulting fire if you're not careful

>>170824380
key word: WAS

and there are some 10+ anime related boards, and this is not one of them

>>170824251

I don't have any life between DF and being a dirty coal miner

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>>170824251
>not included Steam and heavily modded Skyrim and Fallout New Vegas

>>170824616
I'm not the guy you were responding to

>>170824729
i'm not any of them too, just trying to throw around this

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>>170824729

>>170824251
Not much. I'm trying to get into Advance War and some shmups/roguelikes.

>>170824251
>pic related
memes aside, I love you all guys, you're bretty good

I play a lot of self-made tabletop games apart from playing DF
Creating your own table game (I also make social games) is a very unique experience, Its like modding irl
>inb4 thats called crafting

>>170824720
>Cdda
I love u

>>170825071
that's pretty cool anon

Is it time yet?

>>170824720
>caves of qud
Disgusting, ugh...

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>>170824720
goddamn anon you have great taste

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>>170825180
>I love u
Love you too nigga.

N-no homo

>>170823918
>so, you're tarn adams, the creator of DF. You are famous, right?
>2.5 seconds silence
>...ahhh, among certain circles of people...there's like, ten people, but they know me

I can't love the toad enough, man

So are war horses a thing? I've heard them mentioned in one or two places, but the Wiki has nothing on the topic.

>>170824251
mostly overwatch right now, funnily enough
wanted to try stellaris after I burned out on master of orion 2016

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>tfw you have porn pic for a group symbol

Lewd..

>>170825404
Toady has to ankwardly listen to some fag narrator talk about his fort
geez
>>170825720
here you go, amigo
>http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Horse

if you were talking about mounts, only for enemies for now

>>170824313
In my opinion, we should bring back /l/

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>>170826881
Y-you too.

>>170826881
I'm more of an /ll/ guy

>>170826036

>Hog Riders soon

>>170827151
What was /ll/? Lesbian lolis?

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>>170825990

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>>170827460
Purest form of love

Haven't played in 5 million years

Are we still in bizzaro where the rapist is the one in update hell and DFhack came out on time?

>>170828032
No, everything is updated now

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>>170828032
>playing with add-ons

Is there a way of convince someone that already rejected join you or I'm just wasting my time?

>>170824251
Elona
Mount and Blade
Kenshi
Skyrim with mods
EDF

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>>170827471
>group is named Rapid Lances
>Fortress is named Strapvault

Fuck, its shaping to be some kind of Porn Fort or some shit like that.

>>170828301
Become more famous. If you've already done some things you can try bragging about it and asking again, otherwise go kill a night troll or something.

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So what beverages and snacks do you guys generally consume while playing DF?
Currently about to have a nice weizen and some cheese tomato sammiches.
Unfiltered wheat beer seems fitting considering you can make it in game.

>>170824720
>>170828427
Question for you Elona players

Do you play on Infeno or one of the other difficulties without permadeath? I ask because the game seems interesting and I like roguelikes but I've heard playing Elona with permadeath is a really frustrating experience, so I'm not sure if picking another difficulty might be better.

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What are some /dfg/ approved tv shows or movies that have stuff related to dorf fort. I saw Conan mentioned last thread, and while not particularly dorfy, it seems to have a similar world full of suffering and brutality. What else is there?

>>170828617
Water because I'm not a fatty tissue laden fat as fat ass porcine porker motherfucking fat jerk

>>170828501
Fuck, I kill a night troll months ago but I can't remember his fucking name, I'm going to brag about killing her friends and see if she want to join me.

>>170828745
>I ask because the game seems interesting and I like roguelikes but I've heard playing Elona with permadeath is a really frustrating experience

This is absolutely correct. But if you are masochistic enough to enjoy that sort of thing, go ahead. It is primarily designed to be played without permadeath, though.

>>170828617
Water and salty snacks in general.

>>170828749
berserk, goblin hunter and that one comedy with the weird dorf seem to be mentioned here often as far as weeb shit is concerned

>>170828749
The Hobbit. Not a very good movie, but holy crap did it give me DF vibes.

>>170828749
>>170828946
This.

Erebor is worth recreating in DF.

>>170828617
Coffee. All of the coffee.

>>170828801
>>170828907
>water
how undorfy
what are ya, ill?

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>>170828845
Elona+ without Inferno means nothing.
Git gud.
If a horse with a shotgun could do it then so can you.

>>170829060
But anon I'm not a horse with a shotgun

>>170828745
I'd play Elona but no matter how many guides I read I still can't grasp what I'm supposed to be doing.

Hey guys I see /dfg/ is pretty slow. If you want, you can merge with /rwg/, we are kinda slow but Rimworld is basically a better Dwarf Fortress so nobody would mind.
Everybody would profit from it, as the threads would get much more active and maybe some of you see how awesome Rimworld is and try it too?
What do you think?

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>>170829035
Arabor
Seriously, though, I've tried to find a decent map of Erebor for stealing ideas, but I've failed everytime I've searched.

>>170828749
Edda, Kalevala, Silmarillion etc.

>>170828845
I see.

I think I'll go with advancing difficulty, I took a look at no future and natural difficulties but it seems the savescumming penalties also apply if the game or your PC crashes, and that sounds annoying.

>>170829060
>>170829130

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Do you think you will live to see version 1.0.0?

>>170829241
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>170829270
IIRC there is a full map of Moria.
Dont know about Erebor tho.

>>170829130
>>170829231
>>170829291
________________________Git gud________________________

>>170828913
Yeah, although I was going more along the lines of television, not manga.

>>170828946
It was a fun, silly adventure that I would have enjoyed a lot more if it didn't shit all over tolkien's work in a lot of ways. Also, why did they make that Alfrid fucker so fucking obnoxious holy shit.

>>170829035
Yeah sure, not arguing against that. It would be pretty impossible without fps death though, that mountain's fuggin yuge.

>>170829284
Read 2/3, they're great, but like I said, was hoping for movies or tv and stuff.

>>170829331
what? 30 or 40 years from now? I think I can

>>170829505
>but like I said, was hoping for movies or tv and stuff.

Then you're shit out of luck for epic fantasy.
Just read Malazan.

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>>170829431
Yeah, I post it all the time.
I'd like to find one for Erebor as well, but I don't know that such a thing exists.

>>170828105
I got the mem layouts for the new rapist but it just crashes when I try to load the dwarves in.

>>170829685
>Malazan
>Not works of art like Stormlight and Mistborn

>>170817336
Same bug that happens when you bodyswap without a proper target.

>>170829926
I actually just finished the first Mistborn trilogy and the prose was legitimately atrocious.
Not even being an elitist or anything, it's simply awful to the point that Malazan reads like a classic work of high literature and anyone can see it by reading Sanderson's works.
I don't mind people enjoying his works for other reasons but goddamn.

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>>170824012

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>>170830440

>>170828617
Fruit and wine, specifically Riesling or pink moscato

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>>170831380

http://imgur.com/a/kJyLj
Moar japagoodness.
>>170831380
>read pink mosquito

>>170831380
>Riesling or pink moscato
Maybe it was naive of me to expect that people who play an autism simulator where alcohol abuse is a core mechanic would have good taste in booze.

>>170832370
oh im sorry, what 180 proof slop do you drink

>>170832370
not that anon but what's wrong with a nice, dry riesling?

>>170832370
I just drink cheap beer or moonshine I made.
I don't know if moonshine is different from what I make but anyway, self-made booze in the deep forest away from prying eyes.
It's about 80% at most and hopefully fingers crossed no methanol.

>>170832687
>self-made booze in the deep forest away from prying eyes
holy fuck that's so dorfy

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>>170832370
>being a drunkfag
My taste in booze extends to which one goes best in burgers, and as long as you tweak the recipe right it's hard to fuck up.

>>170828617
A nice, tasty, glass of cum. I'm an elf, btw.

>>170832861
It's just because making clear spirits of high alcohol content is illegal in my country.

>>170833216
yeah, same here. I've seen one forest moonshine place myself, but I've never had actual moonshine or participated in it's creation
I was kind of surprised that it's basically just a bog and some barrels, I thought you need some specialised equipment for this

>>170832574
I'm alcohol snob by profession. Having better taste than you is literally my job.

>>170832594
Nothing at all. There's nothing wrong many rieslings that aren't dry. But someone who drinks "specifically riesling or pink moscato" isn't drinking those rieslings. The pink moscato is the context clue.

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>>170833592
Only if you're unskilled and want to avoid going blind and/or killing yourself but hey, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

>>170833827
>Having better taste than you is literally my job.
"I drink liquid pigshit and im snooty about it"

>>170833827
explain the pink moscato thing to me please, I'm not much into wine, I do sometimes enjoy dry white wine, but generally it's beer for me

>>170833927
There's no liquid pigshit commercially available for human consumption in the US, but if there were I would be professionally obligated to be able to tell you which ones were the best.

>>170834045
pink moscato tastes great so critics will tell you that its shit

>>170834114
Haha what a character.

Oh wait, you're just a faggot. Easy mistake.

>>170828617
Rochefort 10

>>170832574
His comment is about you having an immature taste, not the abv. In time you'll grow accustomed to and hungry for bitter, sour flavors. When you're older. Unless you're a woman.

>>170834045
Pink moscato (or almost any other variety of moscato) is almost universally mass produced super sweet junk wine. Demographically, they target low income women who don't actually like wine, but do like sugar and being drunk. In most categories you can find a few gems, but I struggle to think of even one for pink moscato.

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>>170834770
>Rochefort 10
muh nigga. quadruppels rock in general, though they're a bit too complex and the abv is a bit high for me to drink them while playing
bernardus is generally my quad of choice since I can easily get it where I live.

>>170834964
I've never had a sweet wine I liked, so I'm pretty sure I'd hate this one
thanks for informing me, I will steer clear

>>170835121
Nice, I'm just getting into trappists, I've had Orval as well. Shit's great.

I'm blessed with high constitution, drinking and playing is my life.

>>170834964
Yeah, I've drank some faggy drinks and never even heard of pink mosato.

>>170834770
I think they might be american and have the problem over here like I did:

16~20: drink is a thrill and exciting and it takes almost nothing to get you wasted

21~23: drinking is legal, time to drink all the things!

25~30: ugh, why did I think waking up with rattlesnakes was ever a good plan?

30+: I got too much to do for me to be dealing with getting sloppy drunk, and I don't feel like talking to 20 year olds ever again, what did you say about brewing your own beer?

36 (me): bah, cleaning vomit out of a beard is the worst, and if I want a headchange, gimme some weed, but I do love the taste of beerburgers, fuck all the rest of that shit, leave it for the professional drunkfags

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>>170835972
>30+

>>170836164
Reminds me I gotta get the burger recipe from the mother-in-law, she does onions in the beer too and god damn that shit is "trying-to-lick-juice-off-your-elbows" good.

>>170836164

Congratulation, you must have a wealth of experience and adventures to tell

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>>170836864
Yes of course.
I certainly do.
Being a fat wizard is so awesome.

>>170837016
...can... can you at least grow a beard?

>>170837016
A Fatromancer, if you will.

I heard you want to merge with /rwg/? when did you discuss it, can't find anything in this thread and I think /rwg/ would have to discuss this too, even though we are pretty small

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>>170837153
Mostly my chin is as smooth as the top of my head aside from the few patches of thin hair that wouldn't look out of place on a 13-year-old that's recently hit puberty.

>>170837371
no we don't
like one or two rimfags want to merge because they're tired of their general being ded, everyone else hates the idea

>>170837371
>>170837498
I personally wouldn't mind. Df is basically a rimworld clone and vice versa. They also seem pretty chill

>>170837940
>calling the original a clone

fuck you

>>170838084
don't respond to obvious b8 anon

>>170838084
I mean they are same game with worse graphics sorry english is not my first language

>>170837016
>>170837486
dumb frogposter

>>170828749
>>170828946
>>170829035
>>170829505
Tell me this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpVIT-yccGU isn't dwarfy as fuck.

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>>170838640
As ridiculous as it was, I really enjoyed the design of the movie. Stuff like the dwarven architecture, Smaug's character (not counting his dumb death), and the soundtrack were all great.

The dumb romance subplot, downright retarded combat, and horrible side characters ruined what could have been a really fun, if silly, adventure film. Also I wish they didn't pussy out on Thorin, Fili, and Kili and made them look proper dwarfy, instead of just short humans.

>>170839191
Smaug's first appearance and monologue was really fucking impressive with good headphones and bass turned up. That Sherlock fucker does have an incredible voice.

>>170837486
Oh lord, I'm so sorry bro.

holy fuck, the new interview is a fucking disaster

>literal autistic nu-males admit to toady that they suck balls at his game for a solid 30 minutes in the whole interview
>Toady calmly listens to them and admists that they have a long way until the game is properly finished, almost like apologizing
>they dont even ask any interesting question besides when is the artifact update gonna be

fuck man, I was hyped

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>>170837498

>>170840292
But did he say when is the artifact update gonna release?

>>170823918
>all those forced laugh
The fuck is wrong with this frog

>>170840292
I agree that they were total idiots.

Hearing Toady make some idle talk about other games was interesting, though.

>>170840728
>Really though I just wish the fags playing these pale copies would fuck off and commit sudoku, he he he.

>>170840486
he said that for him to have it done in less than 3 months, he would have to 'put his mind and soul in it all time every day'
So, bugfixes included, expect it in july

>>170840728
I mean, its cool to know that Toady plays ni-oh, but jesus, he is explaining them how to make soap in DF

>>170840846
I know that feel bro

>Fagger talking about metals
>'copper is, like, the best thing in the world

Toady should've gotten up and left right there

>>170840846
So nothing before 2018, got it.

>>170840846
>>170841032
Hearing them trying to lecture Toady on Nobunaga was also pretty cringey.

>>170842412
You don't do it by posting on /dfg/ generally.

>>170842412
what a terrible way to bump. let's try something else:
whatever happened to gnomoria?

>>170842727
Abandoned by the devs.

>>170842909
well fuck
how about that one othre df clone, I think it actually had ship travel too

there used to be way more clones in 2013-14, what the fuck happened

>>170843275
people realized exactly how autistic you have to be to make something coming even close to DF and realized that they did not have the chops needed

You know. It makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY WHEN YOU FUCKS DONT LINK THE NEW THREAD IN THE OLD THREAD. LIKE HOW HARD IS IT?!?!? jesus

>>170843394
just bookmark >>>/vg/dfg

>>170843394
What the fuck are you talking about you retard, I made a post that linked to this thread in the old thread.

>>170814894
No

>>170843348
this
a DF clone can only be a simplified version of the game, and why would anyone play that in the long term apart from complete babbys who can't into DF?
>>170843394
but it was linked

>>170843394
Come on dude, we're not hard to find
Just type 4chan.org/vg/dfg and hit enter
Or set up the thread watcher to automatically watch the general

>>170843394
It was linked, stop lying

Exactly how austistic is toady? Are we talking chris-chan levels of autism here or?

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>>170843907
Ulililia-tier

>>170843907
He's just a normal, fairly smart, dude who makes a game. This "anyone who does anything is autistic" meme is dumb. Listen to literally any of the podcasts featuring/interviewing Toady and you'll find out anyway.

Anyway the guys interviewing toady in this most recent one are retarded.

>>170843907
there are different ways to be autistic (buzzword) anon, in this case toady being extremely meticulous and in depth is his autism.

Chris-chan is Gods joke on humanity and is actually autistic, not to mention one of the most well known spergs on the internet at this point

>>170843907
of course not, he's obviously able to talk to people, go out in public etc. as made evident by his interviews
if he does have autism it's very mild

>>170844492
I can talk to people, go in public, but it's mostly because I discovered people are very interesting animals, and I love animals.

Not as interesting as spiders or cats or parrots, but interesting nonetheless.

>>170844701
Believe me anon, you most likely don't have autism. Even if you do, it's definitly of the light kind.

The autism meme that we use to label anyone who is even slightly interested in something that isn't mainstream enough is just that: a meme.

Here's a n example of actual serious autism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jrqpn60d4A

I'm pretty sure that's not how you, or any of us in the thread are.

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>Let's entertain the world together!
>A demonstration of your skill might convince me
>faggot don't actually stop to listen to my performance

>>170845381
I'm just a sperg, which is pretty fucking light end, and usually use it because I don't want to make it seem like I'm anywhere near as bad off as some. Toady acts like a sperg sometimes but not consistently enough.

>>170846827
Was actually dxed years and years ago, but worth noting that pretty fucking light end means "sitting here with one glove because the clicking for my mousekeys setup gets on my nerves sometimes, but using a mouse annoys me more, and my qjoypad setup broke down so this is my solution so I can enjoy looking at my monitors which I shimmed and tweaked and constantly retweak until they're lined up juuuuust right, so I can read /dfg/ and epubs and dorf in comfort but I swear if that fan doesn't stop with the whirr-whirrr-wrreeeenn-whirr shit I'm gonna burn it on a pyre in the back yard soon" type of light.

I see things like the Toad rocking and being kawaii-desu-uguu and it's like "awww, he's a sperger too" but other stuff he does makes it seem like he's just been living more or less alone coding for decades and forgot how to human.

>>170826036
It's kind of irritating to hear the interviewers talk about like what ebin internet memes they're aware of and try to one up each other. This seems to happen a lot with podcasts Toady is a guest on.

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will toadmaster ever make more music for this game?

>>170849282
If I could, I'd totally try and make a soundtrack for this game. Shame I suck when it comes to music.

>>170847674
Yeah you're a real sperg

goddamn it /dfg/ bump your shit

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>>170852052
Why are seige engines only used for defense and not actually sieges?

>>170853080
They will be. It's not implemented yet. Game isn't even half done.

>>170853365
but wheeeeeeen?

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>>170853080

>>170853646
Christ that's disgusting

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>>170854315
>found the elf

>>170854376
Girls with beards are disgusting, female dwarves don't have beards and for good reason

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>>170854315
>>170854574
>Dwarven girls don't have beards
FYI, Tolkein actually intended dwarven women to have beards, they just never appeared in his stories. Only reason Toady didn't include it was so prudes like you wouldn't get triggered.

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>>170854574
They don't have beards because you're a disgusting elf.

>>170854864
That doesn't change the fact that female dwarves don't have beards and that females with beards are disgusting.

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>>170855081
You're one of those rimfags aren't you, get out of here with this faggotry kid.

>>170855267
You call me a faggot but deep down you know you're the real faggot for liking females with beards.

But it is clear that you won't listen and that I'm wasting my breath here, I will go now, bye.

>>170853080
I still dont understand the point of siege weapons on defense, theyre practically useless

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>>170856267
Gotta funnel folks in better.

>>170856267
You need skilled operators and loooong shooting galleries. Your siege operators' jobs will be interrupted by any enemy within ~20 tiles. It's generally not worth the effort, unless you're following rule of cool.

>>170838640
It's funny because gold is just annoying most of the time, can't use it for weapons, no economy, just bling shit up and get past it.

>>170840114
I dug his voice in Trek too, that rich rolling purr.

will I become hopelessly autistic if I play this game?

>>170861112
Yes, but you spelled "hopefully" wrong.

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>>170861112
Yes.
First you'll be like "Oh, this game is pretty neat, might play a bit more before I go to sleep"

Next thing you know, you're up at 4am fighting forgotten beasts while trying to keep your favourite dwarves alive.

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I think I found the most useless artifact of all time.

>>170861848
>Artifact lever

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>>170815045
>>170815129
You actually made me take a look at the raws to confirm this.

I'd say dwarfs are more like classical romans. Too much reverence for fighting prowess, law and commerce and disdain for nature to be full on sjws. Goblins are also too anarchical to be modern day capitalists.

>>170862342
>classical romans
sans the slavery bit.

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>>170862342
Why do the Kobolds look like budget Wombles?

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>dozens of animals go missing
>find this under my well
>like 4 more stuck on a cavern tree
why are they suicide diving down my well?

>>170862683
I'm not the artist. How are kolbolds supposed to look anyway? Is it small lizards or mammals?

>>170862810
I suppose goblins, in Toady's case.

I just found it funny how much they looked like Wombles.

what workshop would I make silk instrument strings at?

>>170862990
Depends on the RNG might be a few different workshops but it should be finished at a craftdwarf.

>>170863162
I know how to assemble it, but one of the parts is silk strings. and I don't know where to make them

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>>170856632
That's not elegant at all, desu, the engineers would run away and can get shot if they are that close, plus a lot of wasted space.

Here is how a dwarf do it

>>170861848
>putting menacing spikes on the lever so some drunkard doesn't go pull it
Good thinking Urist

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>>170864656
>
holy shit that page one means there might be more i am very excited and intrigued

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>>170864890
Title is
"The Legendary Armorer of Nokortilat" btw

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>>170865148
love it already

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>>170865148

>>170865362

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>>170865362
ah fuk the image didnt send

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>>170864656
>implying dwarves have any say in choosing their own jobs or professions
lol no. Sorry kid, you've been assigned as a hauler/planter for life. It turns out it's way more efficient to hire immigrant skilled armorsmiths than it is to train them from scrach. Please keep your filthy little peasant hands out of precious fortress steel or you'll be sent to the dungeons.

Maybe if you're lucky there will be a engraver position opening in 40 years or so. Look out for that.

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>>170865948
ending

>>170866202
Fresh content, in my /dfg/? It's more likely than you think!

>>170866202
wow then, sadder than i thought but that dorfs

>>170863259
Make them in the craftsdwarf shop under "Make instrument piece".

>>170867504
thanks pham

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>>170861848
Artifact mechanisms are good. Valuable lever to make dwarves happy, weapon trap that never jams, or a super valuable well.

This is what a useless artifact looks like.

>>170866202
This makes me think moods are a bit too gamey for how realistic DF tries to be. I mean, the concept of this weird mental obcession hitting anyone periodically and it being inevitably deadly for everyone involved if the dwarf fails at obtaining what they want is too weird. It's too traumatizing a constant for a civilization to bear.

Moods should be more flexible, especially fey moods. Maybe if the dwarf can't find a specific resource, he'd just cancel the mood and have a happiness hit for a while.

>>170868083
It's really not hard to get what a dwarf needs. Way too easy. Now if they wanted dragon bone or dragon leather that's another story.

>>170853591
20 years max

don't worry, you'll probably be alive

>>170870036
>Implying that the dwarfs don't become self aware
>Mine through the monitor
>Dig a hole somewhere
>dig into adamantine
>build tanks out of it
>Conquer the world

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>>170868083
honestly i feel there just needs a little leeway.

>Urist McMood: Guys look I really need alligator leather for this sweet ass boot Im gonna make.
>Quartermaster: Yeah okay but we're on a glacier, that shit ain't gonna happen.
>Urist McMood: *grumble* I guess I'll settle.

McMood then takes a hit to his happiness and gets a negative thought cause it will never be as 'perfect' as he wants, and as such he doesnt get as large a boost in the skill.

However the question then becomes how much leeway is too much? Obviously substituting cloth for candy would be too far, but even going straight one-to-one (eg. stone for stone, metal for metal, etc) doesn't quite feel right either.

>>170870036
I don't know if Toady will, though. He seems to be putting a few extra pounds every year. I think all that diet coke will start really fucking with his health by the time he's 50.

>>170870354
there must be at least one other programmer that is autistic enough for that, if god forbid, something happens to toady

but don't worry, he's still young, and technology will help him one way or other so he can finish DF

>>170870331
>>170869987
>However the question then becomes how much leeway is too much?
I just think deadly moods should be rarer. The kind of mood that makes a single dwarf take the entire fortress hostage should be a once in a fort thing, not a once in a season thing.

I'm seeing this from a civilization perspective. Think about it: imagine living in a society where every few months one random person inevitably gets in a crazy mood where he demands specific objects from the site he's living in or else he'll go on a suicidal rage. It's a depressive death cult. Everyone would be paranoid and manic-depressive about losing their kids or loved ones to insanity.

>>170870884
You already live under constant threat from sieges, funny shit lurking in the caverns, random megabeasts deciding to pay you a visit and you have to do everything according to the will of some god (the player) whose antics may very well get everyone killed for his personal amusement. Some joker stripping off and running around in circles because he got emo over not having some specific item is nothing.

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>>170870331
You are thinking small time, add a new option to the justice screen that deal with the mood of dwarfs, you can order your Hammerer to try to persuade the dwarf based on Speaker, Persuader, Consoler and/or Intimidator skill, you have two option: force the dwarf to change the material he need, which results in complete the artifact with a temporal or (dependent in goals) permanently hit to happiness or immediate enrage, and the second option is to force the dwarf to give up the artifact that results in a permanently hit to happiness and prove to melancholy or the dwarf committing suicide or becoming catatonic.

>>170871562
Aside from sadistic player decisions, all the problems you listed are perfectly rational and straightfoward. I mean, that's why you make a fortress in the first place: you build defenses so goblins and megabeasts won't be able to destroy your society and you get to keep your family safe.

However, the fact that your species have a weird genetic desease that makes every member of the community, like clockwork, contract a periodic condition where they need to perform specific actions where they require specific items or they'll go nuts and literally die is fucking bizarre though. They would think of nothing else. Maybe that's why dwarves are so willing to live in gulag conditions and are so industrious in the first place - to make sure they always have a large number of useless materials stockpiled because they know they may need it when they inevitably get a mood one day.

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>>170872304
I like it, anon.

Much better then my idea, Im jealous I didnt think of it first.

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>>170863787
Was my first time trying too.

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>>170866202
Well done.

>>170872304
Not really the kind of job the hammerer should be doing. It's fine otherwise.

>Bearded dwarf females are best bump

>>170877045
>rawr beards are gross on girls fags are the worst bump

Are there any creatures in DF that are purely Toady's own creation or is everything borrowed from other places?

Not that its is a bad thing.

>>170879448
Several of them, lots of the underground stuff, the colossus is vaguely mythological but turning into a statue and such isn't really.

The general "oh god what the shit is this" FB is all Toady.

Macfag here I am unable to unzip dwarf fortress and every archive tool I have used shits itself when I finish unzipping

>>170880106
stop using mac

>>170866202
fukken saved, nice job, love the color coded dorfs

>>170868083
I'd say they're fitting considering it's a fantasy game about dorfs
moods add a bit of drama and difficulty to the game

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>download fortress from some random faggot
>spend days trying to reach it in adventure mode to kill everybody
>have to restart again and again because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing
>after to have to savescum a dozen of time finally have a decent character
>finally react the fortress and finally the massacre can begin
>FPS death barely entered on the map

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>>170882715
http://pastebin.com/YzV7xq8L

Hmmm, I bet I could write a script that checks for units with profession 74(Merchant) and appeared_year=~cur_year, plus creature WAGON, and set them all to disappear.

Any fellow rimmos here?
How do you deal with scythers?

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>>170866202
Why did you trick me by having it start out so cute and sweet?

>>170866202
I recognise your style, anon. You've made a similar comic before, haven't you?

Mind posting the old one? I never saved it.