/wowsg/ - World of Warships Admiral

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Claiming.

RN Cruisers are fucking trash.

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>>170705025
Nice flattop. It'd be a shame if something happened to it

>>170705258
Sometimes

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>>170705258
I agree, worst Cruiser line.

>>170705971
>remember that specific time when I...

>>170706218
Those games are so rare for me. I either get deleted right away or I accomplish nothing because I'm too careful.
It's why I like German BBs the best, I'm a high risk, high reward kind of guy. I like to get in there and tear shit up.

>>170706292
>German BB
>High risk.
Wut?

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Is tier 3 fun?

>>170706475
North Carolina's 15k no citadel volleys say hi.

>>170705258
So shit any mediocre player could do well in it.

What's good 5th skill on USN battlecruisers?

>>170706973
Exactly. North Carolina's game uninstalling volleys only do 15k to potato kraut BB players tanking with their sides.

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Holy fuck, why is EU server so shit?

The worst Alabama players on SEA are better than the average Alabama players on EU, and the average Alabama players on SEA are better than the best Alabama players on EU.

Also, why does Warships.Today show that nobody on NA server has the ship?

>>170707504
AR or DE like every cruiser :^)

>>170707630
>tfw benis

>>170707808
>877 WTR

holy fuck, what a shitter

>>170707630
wtf, hold on a sec. Is WTR different for each server? Is there a scale based on averages or something?

Because looking at the numbers, why does someone on EU with 1235 WTR have a much lower WR/KD/etc compared to someone on SEA with 1254 WTR? Shouldn't the numbers be roughly the same?

>>170708048
It's based on server average. SEA is harder to play on.

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>>170707537
>biskonigger tries angling/tanking with his bow
>proceed to disable his guns because I fucking can and I can actually hit with 6 forward guns and superior accuracy
>proceed to shit on his superstructure
>if he's far enough, my ULTRA HEAVY shells don't even give a shit about his armor and go straight through his deck
>alternatively I switch to HE for maximum salt
>bisko tries to use more than 4 guns and hit something for once
>that's a free broadside
>b-but muh secondaries
Top jej, any BB will demolish you long before those puny guns manage to actually do some serious damage.

>>170708048
Don't think too much into it, the sample sizes are too small.

I guess you could draw from this that SEA players win games, while EU players like to farm damage. The damage numbers seem to be slightly higher for EU, but the EU winrate numbers are abysmal.

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>>170707630
Here is RU server for comparison.

Apparently NA supertesters were never ever handed out Alabamas or something.

>poles, turks and germans in one fucking team
>4 ships down even before the first enemy is spotted
>tfw I am the only constant

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Tier VIII Italian Littorio Class BB Roma when?

>1902 gun
>76.8MJ of energy
>1939 gun that will be on T10 cruiser
>78.5MJ
Looks like 37 years of development of naval artillery did nothing for France.
WG do you hate Frogs, or what?

Is there any reason not to sell stock modules?

>>170710884
Not really, no.
The only ones I can think of having much point in keeping is stuff like the US DD B/C hulls for if you want to switch between them.

A-are we ignoring the fact that OP posted a picture of Nelson and called it "dunkek at sail"???

>>170711180
Yes, they also edited out the NA clans, they're clearly just shitposting.

>>170709686
I want my Andrea Doria (ex-Navy Fielder).

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>>170706883
Kashy is a good girl!

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Unironically bought Hipper. What am I in for?

>>170714702
She's okay, just nothing amazing. You can do well and have fun in her though.

>>170715267
Can I realiably AP like in Pensacola or should I just give in to HE spam?

>>170715920
Against stuff that gives you broadside, sure, you can do pretty good damage. The problem is that despite good AP being the German Cruiser 'thing' their AP is actually kind of crap in practice because it has trouble penetrating as soon as stuff starts angling, so you're sometimes forced to spam HE. You'll have to use both pretty regularly, and you'll get used to when to switch between them after playing her for a bit.

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>>170716130
Ok. Thank you kind anon.

Reminder that ducks are meant to be fed

>>170717130
Nein

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>>170717130

What is the counter to balans))) dds?

>>170717891
radar and cruisers with good shell arcs

or 12 gun bbs. Scharnhorst isn't bad either due to the reload.

Really RU DDs are cruisers with amazing agility and no citadels. They are retardedly OP.

>>170717891

Carriers.

>>170717891
The Moskva.

>>170718320
ah yes another fucking balans RU ship.

Fucking thing is invulnerable to even yamato shots when it's angled.

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>>170717627
Delicious duckies

>>170718291
>tfw 2x5 8km torps on Kiev with 0.1 invisitorp window
>HP and HE buff
>t8 just means everything's bigger, fatter, and slower
>more HP-more dmg to farm
>don't even smoke, nothing can hit me anyway
I am virtually unstoppable. They can't keep getting away with this blatant ))))

>>170717891
Missouri :^)

>>170719315
If they can get away with the Defender they can get away with this, at least this ))) is free.

>every single Belfast I met today was an absolute retard
I love how even the most OP ships are useless in the hands of the braindead.

>>170720436
Just like the E-25 in tonks

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>when you get into randomly dropped torps that weren't even aimed at you

>>170720635
Just WASD lmao

>>170720514
I blame Flamu for shilling this ship as THE doom machine so now every bot has to buy one.

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>playing in a 3 man div
>someone on the enemy team says "BOTES?"
>we say "yes, BOTES"
>they say "hi 4ch"

wtf, how do they know?

it was even some random that we don't know too

>>170720737
Yep, that's me.
t. maido21

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>>170720841
you mean MAIDOLL

Was firing from a smoke even a thing irl?

I love tears of the desert, it is my favourite map.

>>170722693
okay LunaticRed

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>>170722693
Nice bait comrade.

My penis is ded.

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>>170723349
Let me help

>>170720729
I blame everything on LunaticRed and Flamu

>>170717891
Not playing

>>170720737
Because [BOTES] is mentioned in the Clans section of this thread. I'd join but I'm a really bad player.
>>170720841 is a fake.

t. the real maido21

>>170724705
Don't join BOTES, LunaticRed is in the clan, and all he ever does in the clan chat is complain about Wavecave and Anumati.

>Stealth fire heavily nerfed
Should I just sell all my dd's or wait until they dwindle from the game and WG realises its mistake ?

>>170724828
Dunno what those are but OK.
t. 48% WR

>>170722693
I like t10 matches while playing t8 cruisers :3

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>>170724967
Uh? I haven't played recently, how did they nerf it?

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how do I fix my planes?

I can't order them around, look at my cursor, I tried landing them and resetting them, but it doesnt work

>>170725506
You have ordered them to escort your ship.
Press the bloody F and they will land.

>>170725637
no shit

I've done this.

i cannot get them to move I've tried resetting them

>>170725694
i don't know, you're doing something wrong or the UI is just shitting on you.

>>170725789
I was able to get them to take my orders by selecting them all and landing them all but now I can't select single squadrons, I have to drop them all and command them all at once

>>170725789
now they're fucked again

I can't fix them this time

>>170725506
>HOTEL
Problem spotted

>>170725506
Try tapping Shift or Alt.

>>170726117
yeah it was the F key

I had to launch them by clicking on the water, not F

if I pressed F it fucked their orders up.

>>170725335
Leaks reported by TAP suggest that in the next patch, invisifire will be removed. That said, anything could change and the leaks are probably not final.

>>170724967
>stealth fire nerfed
>BB range buffed
they don't even hide it anymore

>>170727457
You see comrade, nobody would whine that BB are overpowered, if only BB are left in game

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>French BB line still not released

>>170728203
I wouldn't be surprised if their great masterplan to fix BB meta would be introducing extra balans)) soviet BBs powercreeping everything, in hopes that people who play other battleships would stop playing them in favour of other classes instead of just switching to the FOTM.

>>170728545
I am also wating for them impatiently.
t. khabarovsk

>>170728742
Do they even have any plans beyond 6-7 month?

>>170720737
hehe, we had a bit of that with [No Botes Allowed]

Welcome to having your fleet name in the OP consistantly.

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>>170728742
>)))) new blueprint being of found says glorious motherland BB's were going to be equipped with 4*4 500mm guns, 400mm belt, speed boost and/or smoke generators

>>170730857
Don't give them ideas

>>170728742
WG has mostly avoided blatant powercreep in WoWS so far.

On the other hand, they made some stupidly OP prems.

>>170729898
In theory, yes.
In practice, release schedules ca get fucked up, delayed or shifted around.

>>170731043
>y avoided blatant powercreep
Minotaur and Des Moines?
Minotaur has better DPM, more stealth, better heal, more AA (until Des Moines uses Def.AA) better turning....

>>170731004
!And not of forgetting, t5/6 of having optional sidegrade of Aviation Battleship! Of having the firepower of BB and of strikings powers of CV!

>>170731043
>WG has mostly avoided blatant powercreep in WoWS so far
When german BB's released, they were top of their tier in every tier, even above prems in some cases.

>>170731446
But it cant bow on tank.

>>170731748
And Des Memes can only Bisco. Giant difference

>>170728203
First they came for the carriers, and I did not speak out because I did not play carriers. Then they came for the destroyers, and I did not speak out because I did not play destroyers. Then they came for the cruisers, and there was no one left to speak for me. Wargaming is beyond incompetent if they actually planned to lower the BB population.

>>170732101
i shit on bbs with my carriers, dds, and my cruisers

Learn to set fires and flood.

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TAIGEI WHEN

>>170734346
Oppai underage!

Hey /wowsg/, why do teams insist on sitting miles behind the cap points sniping each other?

So whats the point of getting an Edinburgh?

>>170736919
Super heal?

>>170736534
An outdated practice from the days when repair costs were based on damage taken.

Now you pay a rental fee so no matter how much damage you take you'll pay the same amount. Which of course increased overall repair costs, because WG.

But people still play as if not scratching their paint matters.

>>170738492
It's traditional damn it!

>>170738492
The assumption that they were only doing it to be cost-effective was always a mistake. These people aren't smart enough to think 20 minutes into the future, or even 2-3. They're just too pathetic to move forward and do something without dying horribly.

>>170738972
this doesn't match the data. check my reddit

Hi. What are you talking about?

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>>170738972
>tfw always plan my actions at least 5-10 minutes in advance
>tfw plans never work out because I'm a fucking idiot thinking
>tfw always forget I enjoy playing slow as fuck BB's

Should I quit my nagato for the german BB line

>>170739285
Do it for Hotel, not freddy

>>170739285
I think that the only BB worthy in the IJN BB Line is Hotel. Buy another slot for KM BBs and stick to Bismark

>>170739285
german bb's are ridiculously op and they unable to be nerfed

>>170739709
Specially secs. 10 Km range is just ridiculous

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>>170739709
>>170739919
>tfw running secondary meme's on my USN BB's
>mfw it actually works when people go to bum rush me

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>get the same AFK arp myoko 4 ranked games in a row
it's always the ARP ships.

>>170739676
>Fuso
>Nagato
>Amagi
>not worthy
Trash taste desu.

>>170740858
all of those ships are bad. I would know I'm one of the new super unicums that ellipsis the shitters like wave

>>170741061
>Ellipsis ... ... ...
me thinks you have made an error my friend!...

>>170741061
you're a shitter making stuff up on the internet is what you are

>>170741061
>all of those ships are bad
Where were you when many other players were getting great or even excellent results with these three ships ?

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>>170741437
>>170741473
>>170741709

you just don't understand kid. sorry lol. But don't be to sad with your position as the new Garbad. I hear shitters over at AW will still listen to you. hasbeen lol

>>170737083
I just want my neptune reee

Do you get concealment expert on IJN carriers?

>>170706218
>>remember that specific time when I...moved the goalposts
Yes, about 2 hours ago.

>>170727457
Never thought WG could kill their prem ships sales other than BB's so quickly.

>>170738492
>An outdated
Yeah, why would the closest enemy ship even be fired upon/targeted by bombers, right ?

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>>170738492
The truth is is that over powered battleships caused this. Citadel damage needs a 65% nerf

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Is there literally any reason to play AS
idgaf about ranked

Why are there two different premium icons? One is the half circle the other is the full circle

>>170743750
If you want to see another CV suffer.
Apparently WG thinks it is a superior way to play, that's why they buff it from time to time.

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>not a single battleship leaves our spawn the entire match
Clearly we need more DD nerfs.

>>170744571
Do you know why BBs don't leave spawn?

Entirely because they don't want to get sunk by walls of skill.

>>170744571
But if we nerf DD this time surely BB will start playing objectives >>170744850

>>170744571
They have the range. How would they help you by being burning to death or catching walls of skill and flooding to death ?

Also, their maneuverability isnt the best for dealing with several spread out targets at a close range.

>>170744047
One is stuff that can be bought in the tech tree the other is stuff that's not normally available and comes from the store, from what I remember.

>>170745029
>waaaah BB's aren't my literal shield,
Uninstall, this game is not for you

>>170745142
The enemy team's BBs moved in. I want you to take a guess as to which team eventually won and why that might have happened if BBs at 10km have no reliable advantage over BBs at 20km. For bonus points, explain why our cruisers also couldn't move forward.

>>170744123
They buff it because everyone complains about TB and DB

>>170745338
>For bonus points, explain why our cruisers also couldn't move forward.
They actually could, plenty of islands to peek-and-shoot. Also, is this before the upcoming invisifire nerf ?

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was able to kite 3 bbs and one CA that rushed our cap when we were in the enemy's base.

Was able to stop their cap and kill both the graf spee and a scharnhorst

All by maneuvering around, I had no smoke.

These ships are retarded, I know the khab is even better.

>>170747908
>HOTEL

>>170707630
>It's harder to win against EU players
>Why are they so shit?
tip-top logic there my dude

>>170727000
>Telling lies

>>170738492
>Which of course increased overall repair costs
Only for shitters who never tanked, which is a good thing.

>>170741437
>3 full stops
…

>>170742183
Flamu says so.

>>170738492
>Which of course increased overall repair costs
What? I found I was making more money overall, especially at higher tiers in stuff like BBs where I ended up saving a bunch of credits since the repair costs were so high all the time.

>>170748365
Yeah I know, I'm just not sure how useful it is compared to some of the other points
Obv you get it on US carriers but idk for jap

>>170751349
On IJN CVs it allows you to just stay with your fleet without being seen.

>thred killed by sneaky IJN CV

Battleships should have their ability to reverse removed.

>>170755317
Battleships should have their ability to steer or go forward removed.

>>170755508
battleships should only be playable on Bastion

>>170755891
All ships should just be unmoving fortifications.

Battleships should be forced to only fire broadside.

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>our nagato is bad

>>170756357
So this is where you've been hiding MOA?

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We did it reddit.

>>170756894
R1 after 89 battles?

>>170756946
Yes?

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>>170756894
Sims abuser spotted.

>>170756894
but at what cost

>>170757039
>not abusing the Sims

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>>170756532
i dont play random battles anymore

>>170756946
With a Sims and everyone decent at the game ranked out in the first week.

There really is nothing to brag about and ranked is cancer.

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>>170758931
no

>>170759157
the or is crossed out

>>170758931
Hatsu is a naughty girl

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>>170762159
Ducks are acting slutty if you offer them food

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>>170764834
sunk them both!

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italian girls are for...

>>170765029
getting shot at by both sides.

>>170765029
making delicious Pizza, Pasta & other Italian food

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>>170765029
For getting drunk

>>170765029
Fritz-keks

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>>170765029
child bearing

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>>170765029
>>170767170

>>170768649
>>170767170
DELET

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>>170768812
Deleted.

I've almost finished the RJ, should I be looking forward to the Hiryu or dreading it? Never played a tier 7 carrier game, is the saipan easy to deal with or hard?

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>>170768897
Being deleted.

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>Trying to retrain captain for new DD
>Dont have LS yet
>Engine and rudder keep getting knocked out simultaneously

>Time to head out in Atlanta to shoot down those juicy planes
>Get into top tier match with T5s
>Enemy team has 3 man Texas div
>Neither team has any CVnts

gg no re MM

this game is more fun than World Of Tanks so far.

Shame I teched into Americants for Carriers - Just learned gooks are better.

>>170770793
USN CVs are good you cuck, they do fine.

Being inferior doesn't mean being bad.

>>170771104
>wanting to be inferior

>>170771104
I suppose it'd be a waste to get the wyoming and not keep going.

Btw, how do you hit citadels consistently? they're weakspots like in tanks, right? Battleship guns are hard.
Torpedoes are fun.

>>170771209
Citadels are to warships what everything on the inside of a tank is to a tank.

>>170771423
then how do AP shells work? shouldn't every hit be a citadel?

>>170771423
I believe he's asking how to get citadel penetrations and do lots of damage, consistently.

>>170771209
>Battleship guns are hard. Torpedoes are fun.
Because you're playing at tiers where everyone's an idiot that goes in a straight line. Torpedoes become a useless herding technique later on. Battleship guns stop firing like a confetti popper too and become much more accurate.

>>170771209
You learn to lead shots. 0-dmg AA-destruction hits are the equivalent of your massive shells magically flying into the tracks of the Russian light tank and doing zero damage.

>>170771672
>p
if its anything like tanks, there will always be potatoes to hit with pedos.

Ty, though.

>>170771710
lead shots where, though? am I aiming for center or fore / aft of a ship?

>>170772024
>there will always be potatoes to hit with pedos
yes
yes there is

>>170772024
In general, you want to aim for middle of the ship, at the waterline. Some ships like RN CLs you need to aim for slightly different areas.

Aiming for citadels is easy. What takes more judgement is when you don't have an easy shot for citadels, and you have to decide where to aim for to actually be effective.

>>170772024
I citadel is specifically the middle of the ship when it's broadsiding you. Good players will avoid showing you broadside to keep you from hitting that weakpoint but in lower tiers, a lot of players will broadside thinking that getting all their guns in at once is more important.

>>170771672
>Torpedoes become a useless...
Lel no

>>170771505

Citadels can usually be found amidships and end just at or right above the waterline. Destroyers do not have citadels.

However there's internal armor that the shell must first pass through. Depending on the angle of impact of your shells it may penetrate the light deck or superstructure but then bounce off the much heavier internal casemate armor. If a shell hits the ship but doesn't come close to the citadel it overpenetrates and does relatively little damage. Not all hits are citadel penetrations.

Ships are not armored like tanks. Tanks are armored all around, with the expectation that they take a few hits when it is necessary or just avoid getting hit in the first place. Warships on the other hand are expected to take multiple hits and still be operational after the damage control crews have done their magic. To put it into perspective, it's not strange to find a high tier BB with only 25mm of armor on the bow, stern, and/or deck. It's not meant to stop shells, it's meant to keep the water out.

The armor scheme of warships differ greatly. US BBs tend to have All-or-Nothing armor, meaning they only armor the critical bits. Some other ships have a much more spread out armor.

>>170771143
>AS Bogue and good USN CV players
>Inferior
F6/Negative!

>>170772884
You're right, IJN DDs are clearly the strongest.

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>went from pulling 800 WTR a day to pulling 1100 WTR a day
>all I did was change the BB line I was playing
Literally nothing else has changed, in fact my damage per game is lower

>>170747908
>Was able to stop their cap and kill both the graf spee and a scharnhorst

Both full hp ?

>>170773142
>B-but I don''t want my lies and exaggerations to be disproven !

>>170773145
>I don't understand what WTR is
Really propels my projectile

>>170773841
I understand it's your average in a given ship vs the server average metrics in a ship.

Its just annoying to see that I'm basically average all my BB's across the line, I just get asine WTR rating because somehow people cant into other ships.

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WHEN
H
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>>170774296
H-44 is past their maximum displacement
also i'm not 100%, but i'm pretty sure the H-44 would be a lot bigger than that

>>170774296
Never, because H-44 was a stupid design.
The only places H-44 could go to for dry dock was one dock in France and the one in Germany where she was built. Hell, even the Bismarck was almost too big for Germany to handle.

>>170774598
It'd be neat even for an event. Looking at what the Germans /thought/ they could make this fat fucker do, imagine if that was directly translated into the game.
I think so too, but people cant decide if she was longer or thicker

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>>170774714
I think H-44 was supposed to be the largest battleship afloat when the H-series was designed. So I'm pretty sure this picture is the best example but it may be wrong.

>>170774889
It's a paper design, so we'll never truly know.
And in irony its one of the main reasons I like WG over Gajin. Paper things make the game more interesting than same old ships/planes/tanks you've seen 100 times

>>170775178
Yeah there's nothing really wrong with paper designs, it's just annoying if they get put in before real ships/tanks. It's kind of neat seeing the things that never got to fight actually get to be used, especially against the real stuff, even if it is in the dumb russian arcade game.

>>170775298
>it's just annoying if they get put in before real ships/tanks
Yeah, its a bit annoying, but I'll admit I'm an assfag and play a lot of simulators, so its refreshing to kick off and just play some paper tanks.

I think the only thing I'm salty at WoWs for is not having Bong ships in sooner.

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I'll never understand how people can be so toxic in this game. Big games, I get, Battlefield, CS, OW, etc, a lot of people play it so more toxic players.
But this game? Fraction of those player bases and very niche but still filled so such toxicity. I find people make this game the most fun and the least fun. But I'll never understand why someone winning feels the need to talk so much shit. Least I have my reports.

>>170776782
Its because people have turned it into a competitive game, fun is no longer the aim of the game.

>>170776782
>trashtalking while winning
Except I'm pretty sure most of the trashtalking is done when you're losing and directed at your own team.

Redpill me on Steel Ocean

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>>170776919
Reading that made my day.

>>170777054
Chink copy, seems 2 be pretty good, has Yorktown carrier.

>>170777104
>OPG player acting like an autist in the chat
seems about right

>>170777104
But I'm not wrong. Losing doesn't mean all that much when you're not in ranked.

>>170776782
Maybe it's because half the community is old people, but it's hard not to get frustrated when one person does something so stupid it could lose the game. And it's not like it's rare either. BBs staying as far away as possible or even going on the other end of mountains, CVs sitting in the corner of the map and sending their planes around the edge to fail sniping over and over, CAs and DDs who launch torpedoes towards teammates. For such a niche game you'd think people would learn to play. These aren't low tier issues too, I saw them all today multiple times per match playing at 10.

>>170777029
I almost never see the enemy doing any trashtalking or vice versa. It's universally teammates shitting on each other.

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>>170777382
>BBs staying as far away as possible or even going on the other end of mountains

>tfw try to be the BB that is actually useful to the team, be in the front of pushes when speed lets me, will be aggressive when the situation permits
>tfw the last time I actually played the way I got mass reported because I couldn't catch a Kongo, and all my shots missed at max range in a Warspite

>tfw -1

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>>170777054
>Redpill-me
Here ya go.
British has Battleships, Battlecruisers, Destroyers and Aircraft Carriers

German has Battleships, Destroyers, Submarines, CL/CA line

US has Subs, Battleships, Carriers, Destroyers and CL/CA line with a few 'Pick CA/CL' options at some tiers. Few prems of misc types; Enterprise for example.

Japan has Destroyers, Subs, CL/CA (Few split choices as well such as Tone & Mogami, Agano and Furutaka), Battleships, and Aircraft Carriers.

Destroyers make the best spotters, and spotting is very well rewarded (have seen loads of MVP goes to a guy who only spotted, and didn't shoot.) and have the best anti-sub capabilities thanks to Sonar+DC (Or working with a CV for safe removal)

CL is a bigger DD but usually with a hell of a lot of guns. Atlanta for example eats DD's but can't take on bigger targets as well.

CA and BB's have hawkeye which is the Artillery style camera that is optional to use. They also have secondary guns that aid in smaller target removal (Manual.)

AA is manual but wipes planes from the sky in moments if you can aim.

CV gameplay has Scouts, Fighters, DB's, TB's. Scouts have decent sight while the other 3 are borderline blind on their own.

Subs are the silent hunters that aren't 'OP' because torpedoes that are launched are visible immediately instead of WoWS where you see them a few seconds before impact. AND limited ammo so DD/SS can't just go torp soup.
>>170777116
Game came out well over a year before WoWS but was china locked only. Steam/International version was Nov 12th while WoWS was Sept, thus the misconception of "WoWS clone"

Game's free, you can play any tier without needing premium, and should not lose money. "Muh P2W consumables"... I've been playing over a year without using gold stuff outside of 5v5 Arenas (3 months season with a $29,377 prize pool that goes out with top spots getting about $105 and even 1 match play shells out around $18)

Daily log ins reward gold/Prem

>>170777054
>>170777116
+ there are Subs
+ there is theSuper Yamato
+ there is the CA-B
+ controllable spotting craft
- no Montana
- much smaller player base
? dispersion is like Wot, it blooms after firing
= that's up to you to decide

>>170777908
>>170777957
...Spasiba

>>170777957
Would you recommend?

>>170777908
>Scouts have decent sight while the other 3 are borderline blind on their own.
Ruined it for me. That isn't USN doctrine at all.

>>170778180
well, a single commander that provides Hawkeye (+200 meters scouting) makes them usable.

But the amount you need for 1 is really quite low and can be obtained by simply hitting T4 or T5 if memory serves now.

So think of it like needing a 10 point commander (prior to the 75% xp grind extension of WG)

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>>170777382
>>170777029
Most the time I've seen team mates talking shit to each other but there are a few times when the enemy talks shit. Rare but they happen.

>>170776782
If anything, multiplayer games have made me more sympathetic towards people. I know what it feels like to just shit myself in a game and to be on the receiving end of a steamroll. So I try to encourage people and be nice because I know for some that might be their last game.

>>170778292
actually more like a 5 point cmdr. Devs had added a lot of "Welcome new players" stuff, and T4 is like 2-3 hours

>>170778049
i haven't played it in a long time, i didn't hate it, but i didn't get to play it for long.
i like to collect boats so i might play it again for the novelty of owning ships that aren't in Wows (yet/ or ever), i would suggest going to their general, but it died, and i heard they re taking a break until it updates, so go talk to them for a full idea when they revive
it's ok (just like most games in this niche market of WW2 naval combat games)

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>>170778568
yeah, we let the thread sleep till a patch hits since we'd talked all there was to talk about at that point.

If anon/s want more information they can ask here, or I am available on the /wowsg/ discord and can answer whatever questions you've got.

>>170778568
Alright well, I've got plenty of space so I think I'll download it and see how it is.

>>170777908
Steel Ocean has cool mechanics, it's the rest of the game that is complete trash.
Not to mention no one plays it anymore so good luck finding games. Just stay with WoWS and muscle through it, WG has the people power and money to actually progress a game unlike SO that is dead in the water.

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>Finally get another supercontainer for the first time since the nerfed chance
>It's a single Hydroacoustic Search mod

I have never been so disgusted with a reward in my life. It's like opening up a Christmas present to find a pile of steaming diarrhea.

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>>170778919

>get a Super Container
>it's a Radar Upgrade

I don't even have any ships with radar, when will WG drop these fucking upgrades?

>>170777054
Pros:
-better tech tree (more focused in later era instead of early destroyers and protected cruisers)
-manual secondaries, manual AA
-spotters controllable and actually spot
-torps instantly spotted and with a long arming distance to make them harder to use yet at the same time they are more rewarding due to massive damage
-CVs controls are more intuitive but much harder to use due to manual AA and torp arming distance
-dispersion with more vertical dispersion and gun calibration (shells shot at the same place reduces dispersion) which doesn't punish you for crossing the T
-all ships have smoke to temporarily block line of sight
-armor degredation is modeled
-free experience every day and you can get gold from doing 5v5s

Cons
-poor graphics with poor optimization
-small playerbase
-subs annoy the fuck out of everyone but aren't OP
-spotting mechanics can often lead to invisifire cancer
-non penetrating AP hits do 1/4 damage to represent spalling or something (it's a pro and a con at the same time)
-questionable physics

>>170779431
This kind of thing, combined with the real shitty MM, is rapidly killing my interest in the game.

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>people who are blocked by 95% of the discord still posting in discord chat
:thinking:

>>170781102
Nobody knows why Raptor got unbanned

>>170782031
Raptor is actually a okay guy.

Izumo is actually a pretty good bote. I'm genuinely surprised at how much fun I'm having with her.

>>170782250
t. Raptor

>>170782326
What is your secret? I can't make heads or tails of how this BB would be good.

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meanwhile...

>>170786056
Why did you post a picture of these odd looking armored horseless carriages? This is a ship thread, not a weird mobile pillbox thread.

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>>170783136
Izumo has a fair few things going for her - best muzzle velocity and penetration of all BB guns, being nearly invulnerable bow-on and p. decent secondaries. Deleting cruisers with her is a pleasure. Just have to avoid getting too close because her width and freight train handling make dodging torps impossible.

>>170786056
tioga likes men

chain_chomp and ironpony are INFINITELY superior

>>170786056
NTR ;_;

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>>170786056
>>170786602
plsno

>>170786456
>best penetration of all BB guns

heh

>gneisenau and tirpitz position themselves broadside and stationary to all enemies, send spotter planes and snipe the entire game
I want roleplayers to leave.

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>>170774296
>20in guns
>massive healthpool
i could see her being a challenge ship like the USS Salem was a couple years ago, except at higher tiers

>mfw the KMS Adolf Hitler

>friendly Nagato trash talks our team
>him and two cruisers proceed to sit miles behind me as I get secondary range with the enemy team
Why do they do this /wowsg/?

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>>170787689

>>170774296
Why do people even think this is a good idea?
Having this fucking massive ship, handling like a continent in a world where torpedosoup is real and fire damage is % based? Do people enjoy being the target during Zao drills?

>citadeling bismarck in a hipper
>tfw that one specific time

>>170788531
>tfw citadeling a hipper in a ducky

>>170788467
Because mein Kruppstahl
Kinda entertaining how there's so much furious wanking over the navy featuring some of the worst-designed ships of WW2.

she'd make a great PVE boss along with Tillman's battleships, A-150 and other pipedreams though

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>>170788831
>coop will never be good

>>170789006
The halloween stuff was more fun than regular matches provided your teammates weren't exceptionally retarded.

>>170789051
That's the problem.
WG used it as a testbed for the Convoy mode. I'm practically convinced that they'll find a way to take all the fun out of it.

>>170777957
>- no Montana
Why would you want that pile of shit against Yamato and Freddy ?

>>170777259
>seems about right
Doesnt seem right as autist's behaviour is so broad you can't use it as a qualifier.

>>170789051
I just want to be able to put that steampunk skin on my St. Louis.

>der große spends the entire game running and then goes for a ram with 1k HP iowa
>tirpitz is sniping
>kurfurst is afk
>north carolina is sniping
>all cruisers and destroyers are dead
>OMG WHY NOBODY SHOOTS THEIR DDS
>WHY NO ONE WANTS TO PUSH
>SPOT PLS
>enemy yamato proceeds to click broadsiding NC
>tirpitz gets burnt to death
>game ends before they can get to groBer

>>170775298
>it's just annoying if they get put in before real ships/tanks
That's what annoys me about the Russian lines. There could've easily be a cruiser line with only 2 paper ships and 2 DD lines with only 1 paper ship apiece.

>>170787818
>>mfw the KMS Adolf Hitler
That's a name that Hitler would've never allowed in a million years, because of the embarrassment that'd ensue if it were sunk.

>>170790607
When the H-series was originally designed the war wasn't supposed to start for a few more years. So the idea was that the Kriegsmarine would be strong enough then that they would have destroyer escort.

They'd probably still name a super BB after him couple dozen years into the thousand year Reich.

>>170789713
because instead you get a slightly larger Iowa at tier X
also it's the super yamato, and the just call it the H-41

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Did I miss Mutsu?

I've been away from the game for a few weeks, but I checked in every couple of days to see if it was up for sale and I didn't see anything.

>>170778756
if you are still there, what are the plans for their next patch?

>>170791117
yes

>>170791154
Aw

>>170791117
>>170791168
By like 3 weeks.

>>170790524
I suppose Lesta's logic is that if they make an as-real-as-possible RU line right now, any additional lines will be 100% paper. At least this way the blueprints are interspersed with real ships.

That still doesn't explain utterly retarded decisions like putting Kirov on T5 or putting Kiev lower than its direct predecessor though.

>>170791147
Not sure at present, thus the sleeping thread.
Whenever I get info on it we'll likely start them back up as we'd have something to chat about then since there hadn't been much shitposting other than just boatgirl spam between patches (Partly since Fleet chat existed.)

Last I'd heard they had been considering adding a second US BB line starting at T5. New York, New Mexico, Tennessee, North Carolina, [can'trememberT9], Montana.
Current US line is T5 Nevada, T6 Pennsylvania, T7 Colorado, T8 South Dakota, T9 Iowa, and T10 Illinois

But yeah, the devs are goin through a move right now (New office after Chinese New Year and such) but should be back fairly soon.

If you toss your name, and a meme in this thread I'll send a fleet invite if you'd like, or look up "No Botes Allowed" (Page 4-6 of the fleet list)
Though right now I think most just went to sleep/about-their-day

>>170786769
At close distance this is actually true. But because shells have lower mass, they lose energy quicker

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>>170792737
thanks for the invite
i'll look up you fleet later, because it's 5:43 AM and i'm going to bed

>Good night /wowsg/

>Hindenburg is shit

I'm having fun and it's very powerful.
Why did you lie on the internet?

>>170793012
Good night comrade.

TAP has translated T7 leak for French cruiser.
https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/03/12/wows-0-6-3-tier-7-french-cruiser-algerie-stats/
I honestly have no idea what to expect from this line.

>>170794108
Garbo

>>170794108
They seem to be all over the place from this and the T10 leak.
But WG could change them drastically before release like they've done with a lot of lines so who knows.
They always release a weak line to discourage people from free xp the entire line so it's safe to assume this line will be very weak and need buffs as the game goes on.

>>170794379
>>170794886
It is Pensacola level of agile, with nice torps, second best HP on tier, best range, and unlike Yorck AP that doesn't suck (it has penetration close to Pensacola/Hipper) AA kinda sucks though. I wouldn't call it weak

Also, why is it not T8?

>>170795013
Algerie is the first CA of the line, like Pensacola is to the US. tier 7 is where the transition mostly happens.

>>170795103
WG could've modeled Suffren class, and give it good range for sniping.
Or model another light cruiser at T7 and put Algerie at T8
Or even model some early design version of Algerie at T7 and Algerie itself at T8

>people being autistic in the discord
I want this to end

>>170797402
This isn't news.

>>170797402
>be in discord
>not being autistic

Just played one w/ Graf Spee. Pretty decent, tho.

Does warships.today adjust to account for premium or not? as far as I can tell it doesn't

>>170798320
No, but average experience is not accounted for in WTR.

>>170797557
>>170797491
I just want a cerntain sombay to go

When will a particular ponyfag leave us?

>>170800670
Aren't they extinct or something?

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>>170799861
I want discord aspies to keep the autism in their circlejerk

>>170800862
Luger isn't even the bad one

>>170801183
You forgot to write "ded", anon.

>>170801154
everyone in the discord is bad

>>170801379
tru

discord is BTFO!

how will discord EVER recover??

>>170801440
if only they kept the NAutistic faggotry to the discord, we would never have to find out

New Eurobeat just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGsBkDzB0wo

I wonder which SEA [BOTES] he one-shot kills this time

RIP LunaticRed

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>>170804716
Sieg Heil

Anime is shit

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>>170804716
inb4 his shit gets taken down for leftist propaganda

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Regia Marina > US Navy > IJN > Royal Navy > KM > Soviet Papermarine

>>170806469
Nice Memel.

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>>170807880
>no Armada Española

According to a supertester who is in my clan, Pan-Asian cruisers will come after French cruisers.

I'm guessing that they're having trouble with the British BB line for whatever reason, and need to put in a filler line before they're done.

>>170808434
what was that thing about 'being able to research with the Lo Yang"?

>>170808434
Didn't they use this excuse like a year ago

>>170808434
>Pan Asia cruisers line
What in the name of Chinese immigrants

>>170808789
My guess is:

Tier 1 - Thailand cruiser Thonburi
Tier 3 - Chinese cruiser Ying-swei
Tier 5 - Chinese cruiser Ninghai
Tier 8 - Indonesian cruiser Irian (clone of Mikhail Kutuzov)

>>170808434
>Pan-Asian cruisers
So... It wasn't a joke?
No I still refuse to believe

>>170808434

The reason they are having trouble with RN BBs is because they are being modeled out by a third party. WG is just going to apply stats. Yes they are this lazy.
t. Heard from dev over TS

>>170808434
Y-YAMERO

What skills should I have for a soviet DD commander if I want to take him through the line?

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>>170808434
>>170808913
Strongest Navy of the Strongest Race confirmed.

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>>170811025

>>170810485
Probably best for Khaba is 4*3 build
Priority Target(or preventative maintenance, T1 doesn't really matter)
Last Stand
Survivability Expert
AFT
then pick 3 from BFT, DE, Vigilance or SI

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>>170811106
We are not afraid of any foreign Navy!

>>170811147
Thank you babe <3
So far I'm only on tier IV but I've been having tons of fun along the way. Hopefully the higher tiers are as good as this.

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>>170811565
>Hopefully the higher tiers are as good as this.

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>>170790607
>tfwno Adolf Hitler shipgirl

>>170793851
She's shit in comparison to other t10 cruisers.
She has the worst AP, second worst RoF, worst HE (Minotaur doesn't have any so it doesn't count) with nothing to compensate for it or to make her stand out. The fact that you enjoy the ship doesn't make it objectively good. I guarantee you that there's nothing Hindenburg can do that Zao/Moskva/DM/Minotaur couldn't do better. But I am glad you enjoy a ship anon, good 4yuu.

>>170812176
Is that a yes or a no? 0:
I used to play IJN DDs so my view is a bit skewed you see

>>170807880
RM > KSM > USN > RN > IJN > MN >>> shit >>> VMF

>>170812176
Can someone explain this image?

>>170812682
Wrong, Hindenburg starts fires as well as Zao, the shell velocity make it easy to burn anything and HE is good enough to ruin any DD day; i just wish concealment and top speed were a bit better.
Also, armor and hp pool are both good, arguably better than DM and Zao; AP is not even bad, what the fuck are you saying.
You get 10k pens on broadside baBBies and you delete enemy cruisers without getting citadeled back thanks to the turtleback.

>>170790607
>KMS Adolf Hitler gets sunk because of a Swordfish
They'd never be able to live it down

>>170813826
The health pool is much better but Zao has better armor thanks to just having weird as fuck armor that just eats shells for breakfast sometimes.

>>170813826
>write that the ship isn't inherently bad but just bland in comparison
>naziboo proceeds to ignore it and gives in to his inner Goebbels
>HURR YOU GET 10K PENS ON BROADSIDE BABBIES
Wow, you get 8k pens on broadside baBBies in a Pensacola, 2k more dmg is hardly an achievment for a ship two tiers higher with supposedly special AP. Also, Mintoaur will get rid of broadsiding BBs much faster than Hindenburg due to superior ROF, smoke and shells.
>DURR HE IS GUD
no it's not, it has the lowest alpha, also ANY ship can ruin DDs day with HE, good luck doing shit against angled Zao, while she proceeds to deliver 8k HE volleys starting two fires every time to your beloved HP pool, while you can either watch your precious AP bounce or shoot back with 1k HE volleys

Again, the ship is not bad, but isn't outstanding in any way. Just like entire KM cruiser line.
>inb4 that one time I got 200k dmg confederate high caliber kraken in Yorck totally proves the line is masterrace
Fucking naziboos.

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>tfw you finally find the full health enemy Hotel that's been sitting at the back of his team all game

>>170813413
Its's from some kancolle manga or doujin where some ship thinks she has finished a grueling mission, but is told she is only halfway.