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Ded >>170444739

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/

/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
Every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules: a.pomf.cat/jzmnvh.jpg

/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password=/bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne AR Calculator
http://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
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Kosm
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>>170617069
seconded
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Anyone fancy a go at Logarius with me?

BL56
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Guys, it's time.
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Getting BloodBorne tomorrow

As a filthy Dark Souls player what do I need to know before I enter BB?
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>>170617692
don't invest much if anything into endurance
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>>170617591

the narwhal bacons at midnight
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>>170617692
Applying good blood gems to your weapon is just as important as upgrading it.
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>>170617692
You NEED to learn how to parry and use your secondary weapon.
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>>170617692
Parry
Move your ass
Play aggressively to get your health back
Fuck armour stats, Fashionborne
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>>170617485
Ring ring
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>>170618520
>>170619095
>parrying outside of PvP
What's the point? Learning the enemy moveset is more important and will make you better.
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>>170617591
>need to grind souls for molotovs
>need to kill the gatling guy
>no one's going to be lvl 30 in old yharnam anyway
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>>170619238
I was talking about gems mate, you need those.
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>>170619238
Because parrying is a relatively easy way to cause disgusting amounts of damage. It's not necessary, but it is helpful
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>>170619284
Go to some higher level area, or just use SRRC.
Mobs give enough echoes to buy molotovs as well as vials in bulk.
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Hello /bbg/ just got Bloodborne about 2-3 days ago whats going on and what should i know?
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What the fuck does beasthood do
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>>170619660
Fear your blindness, therefore let us cleanse these foul streets
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>>170619660
>what should i know?
That you should play blind.

>>170619696
Your physical damage gets higher as your bar gets fuller.
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Oh i should say one thing i don't have PSN so sorry if i don't get the dank memes
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>>170619660
treat insight with care,
have audience with superior being
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>>170619882
Oh yeah of course i'm a big dark souls fan so of course i played blind and i had a really good time. playing the DLC now (about to go to bed so not playing at this moment) and the DLC is pushing my shit in
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>>170619990
Keep in mind that for the DLC you should be at least bl.60 and with a +9 or +10 weapon.
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>>170619660
Zoidberg does not like being stabbed.
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>>170619238
Because parrying with the right setup can give you a lot of health, a bunch of bullets and a second to catch your breath, while tearing four digits' worth of health out of the enemy. And some enemies, like the final boss, have painfully obvious parry windows.
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>>170620036
Well then i just might be bad at the game then cus i'm about level 60ish and using a +10 threaded cane and a +9 chiitake the blood sword that drains health butchered then name i know but holy shit it's just making me my bitch and i still haven't gotten the first boss yet. /bbg/ sing me to sleep
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>>170619882
>Your physical damage gets higher as your bar gets fuller.

I see, thank you.
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>>170620259
What's your level distribution, points allotted in Str, Skl, and the like? That might be the problem.
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Are any of those impact mods worth using?
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>>170620341
pretty balanced if i can remember cus ps4 not on it goes
25 hp
25 eng
10 srt
25 dex
22 bloodtinge
8 int
i'm just going with a balance charter since it is my second play though
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>>170620431
Fuck wrong general
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>>170620259
Yeah, the start is pretty brutal there. Don't bother fighting the Bloodlickers and open all the shortcuts and then you can explore the area.
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>>170620479
Okay, stop right there.
You will turn the hell around right now. You will get the two Moon runes from the Nightmare of Mensis. Then you will go kill every bonus boss in the core game that you haven't beaten yet and then you will farm the upper part of the Forbidden Woods a dozen times, including the Executioner at the beginning. Don't ever touch Endurance again and pump a lot of points into Bloodtinge and Vitality as well as a bit of Skill.
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so one last question before i go to bed whats the online player base like is it still lively or dead. is it worth it to activate my free month of PSN for it?
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>>170620479
Balance usually doesn't work well, trying to evenly split every single attribute. I tried that myself on my second playthrough, and it didn't work well. What you have is salvageable, fortunately.
With the weapons you're using, you should level Skl and Blt as much as you can. Also level Vit, as only at 25 probably isn't enough to take on the DLC, so increase that. Don't touch End (really you don't need to go past 20) or Str. If you're subscribing to the "level meta" of 98-117, you probably won't be able to level Arc anymore. If not, you should probably bump it to 18 to use the Augur.
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>>170620907
>>170620840
thanks for the help guys
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>>170621136
And if you ever need a calculator for builds (attire, leveling, damage output), try this:
https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
I didn't see it in the OP, it's a build calculator that will save a great deal of time and confusion.
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>>170621236
Cheers buddy i'll be using that for my next build. gonna start with the stake driver and then gonna use the wheel i hope it will be fun anyway /bbg/ have a nice night (it's 1.30 am here in srtaya)
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It's sad that the general is dead when burgers are sleeping.
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>>170620864
You can make a new account every 2 weeks for free ps+ and there is much coop in Chalices and DLC bosses, I'm not sure about coop in story bosses. There much pvp in mensis. Sleep tight anon
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>>170620864
Still alive, especially in the DLC areas.
Also today the Leddit restart even begins, see >>170617591
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>>170622895
Just get rid of the burgers. A newer and better /bbg/ will rise from the ashes, consisting of only European and Australian posters.
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>>170617591
>tfw no twink for low level invasions
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>>170623153
>he needs a twink character to kill low level players
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>>170623241
I actually have no low level character at all :/ but it's fun seeing people panic when you do tons of dmg or use rapid poison on rhe wheel
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>>170623317
>rapid poison on rhe wheel
How fast does it proc?
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Trying to put together a build for SKL + BLT since I haven't done that before. I actually want to use the threaded cane/burial blade and not the chikage, so I'm thinking of 50/20 SKL/BLT, 50/20 VIT/END but no matter what I try I end up with somewhere around level 113-120. I really want to stay around 98-100. Anyone got some suggestions? I don't want to shaft any of my skills too heavily. I could probably go to only 15 END because the cane uses pretty little stamina, but I dunno about the burial blade, and it's still good just to have the extra END for better stamina management.
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Anybody want a hand? Just gimme the code and and the place
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>>170623410
I'm not entirely sure whether 1 hit does one proc. So if that is true then it would do like 55 - 60 rapid poison with FRC gems. But then the wheel multuhits.
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>>170623661
Is it more effective than flat arc?
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>>170623761
I don't think it's mire effective, but it is more fun imhofamalamadingdong
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>>170623521
If you really wanna stick to 98, don't go Skilltinge. Either go Pure Skill/Skill Quality or Pure Blt. Skilltinge is only good at 50/50, you're already shafting Bloodtinge by going 50/20. 15 End with a 20% Stam Rune is enough for anything. But for 50/50 Skilltinge you're gonna have to stick to base End if you don't want to go over 120 and have at least 40 Vit.
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>>170623614
Ludwig, ring at second lamp.

Pass: bbg
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>>170624424
C- can I help too?
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PS4Pro boost mode makes co-op so smooth. Mind blown
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>>170624543
Go ahead
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>>170624424
Shit my bad, shoulda mentioned I haven't started the DLC yet. Almost finished Upper Cathedral, just need to kill Ebreitas. Haven't reached Micolash but have completed Cainhurst and Yahar'gul
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I have a nearly pure ARC build. what am I supposed to do to maximise my use of tonitrus? all % bolt gems, or cold abyssals+ bolt, nourishing or what/
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>>170624543
Sorry about that, someone was talking to me
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>>170624778
Nourishings if you're gonna pop pellets occasionally for extra Blunt damage, a Cold and Bolts for maximum buff damage. Cold Abyssal Radial, 27.2% Bolt Triangle and an Abbhorent Abyssal Waning for with the Lost version for full Bolt. Amy and Gargoyles/Rom for Nourishings, same version.
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>>170624378
Alright, thanks. I already went STR/BLT for my first character, but had to drop VIT down to 43 or something to fit level 100, which really didn't do me any favors when I got to NG+ or ToH, and I'm not going down that road again.
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>>170624931
Not a big deal. But.. I know this will sound as if I was lying, but I can't play anymore. Sorry
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>>170624960
43 is fine, just slap on 2 Clock Runes and you're good. Since you went Str/Blt already, I'd advise doing a Skill build instead if you haven't already. 25/50/10 Str/Skl/Blt should be optimal for every Skill weapon.
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>>170624958
domow arogato
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>>170625093
Yeah, I'll just stick with full SKL this time around. It just hurts to shelf that +10 repeating pistol that totally fucks people trying to heal/make distance in PvP. Thanks again for the advice.
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>>170625313
It'll still do decent damage at 10 Blt, just use BMA and you can gun down people with it as a last resort. Viscerals will be a real treat as a Skill build too, good luck m8
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I somehow got good offshape pulsing gem drops from the long leg pthumerians that walk around in a group. +5 triangle, radial and waning, as well as the normal circle. idk if they drop as non-offshape elsewhere. I put them all on a shit pistol and shit lost weapon for my arc build and I'm actually surprised at how good the healing is. Not nearly enough to make a difference in a fight but any chip damage you take is quickly healed. stuff like falling instead of taking the ladder, maybe getting hit once in a fight or using blood bullets. If you just have the two weapons equipped whenever you aren't fighting it's awesome. You can just use blood bullets with impunity so I spam blacksky eye constantly, whereas before I'd avoid using bullets unless I had to.
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LINK TO THE NEW THREAD IN THE OLD ONE YOU GUYS SCARED ME
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>>170623317
You can make a poison wheel build without using autism gems
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>>170616984
I've completed this game about 5 times now and I'm about to start another. I don't play it online and I don't do NG+ so i'm looking for things to do in one playthrough only. I finished the dlc last time and used a few new weapons, am I right in thinking there's now magic on the game? if so is that only worth keeping for online/NG+ I take it?

Are the side quests besides alfreds worth it? I feel like I've done everything in the game but send all the people to the chapel properly, and do Eileens quest. I've done all the chalice dungeons and I think I've gotten every ending scenario.The last one being the great one ending. Just name anything interesting or secret that I haven't mentioned if that's what it takes.
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Does anyone know the latin lyrics to ebrietas and gherman's theme?
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>>170627564
Magic has always been a thing, there's just not a very impressive selection of it. I haven't tried the DLC stuff yet, but in the base game I've only found it useful for online play.
Eileen's quest is good and gets you some sweet loot, but it ends with the most bullshit NPC fight in the series.
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>>170619660
Just keep playing until you get stuck. I'm going to assume you've played souls games before. The first run is the best so don't spoil it. If you miss areas and bosses (which you most likely will) it makes the second and third play through interesting. Just drink it in lad.
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Fuck, nobody told me that Djura would get mad at me for attacking those crawling skulls that drop blood shards
Why is he even trying to protect those? They're not Old Yharnam beasts

>>170627693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDINrVN-TEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJojXZCAgME
Not 100% accurate though
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>>170627564
There's always been magic, it's Hunter Tools. They all scale with arc, all the way to 99. They can be incredibly useful for crowd control or raw damage. Augur can parry enemies, A Call Beyond can be absolutely devastating especially against large bosses at close range where a ton of projectiles hit, Accursed Brew does splash damage, Executioner Gloves are absolutely god tier for stunlocking and damaging, and there's more to use.

Also, do NG+. It's not hyper difficult or anything, it's a noticeable increase in enemy health and damage, but you've also got all your +10 weapons, gems and fully upgraded character.
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>>170620479
I usually do similar to you but minus the bloodtinge. I stick all those extra points on strength/dex and I'm good to go. The guns are a meme to me.
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>>170627976
Oh and this is where his loot ended up.
JUST
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>>170628208
P. sure if you reload your save his loot just appears at the top of the tower.
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>>170628126
I forgot about the 'magic' in bloodborne because I always ignored it since it seemed so scare to me. I also never bothered with bloodtinge as it seemed a bit of a meme just for riposting. NG+ puts me off because it seems like it would be easier than the first playthrough. If that's the case, I'd much rather start a new one and keep it 'difficult'. Obviously these games get easier and easier every time you complete them in a general sense. I don't really care for parrying as I don't need to and I don't play online. Is any of the magic actually fun and worth using casually against enemies?
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>>170627203
a poison build can be done on any build right, poison build is independant of any stats? Would a pizza cutter the best for poison, maybe even the parasite?
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>>170628279
You're right, thanks man
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>>170628208
That's happened to me a few times m8
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>>170627976
>Fuck, nobody told me that Djura would get mad at me for attacking those crawling skulls that drop blood shards
>Why is he even trying to protect those? They're not Old Yharnam beasts
Can someone make an
>autistic gunfire
edit with that? There was a drawfag here yesterday, so I'd appreciate that.
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>>170628651
It can be done on any build but it will only work on a low level pvp character.
Poison is useless in pve and high level players are hard to poison, big damage works better on them.
Whirligig Saw is a good option, Logarius' Wheel is the best thanks to its dash R1 and R2 attacks.
As for Kos' Parasite, all I know is that it's a pain in the ass to get on a low lvl character.
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>>170629017
Won't most people just carry around an antidote pill?
Can you even parry those?
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>>170628576
Hunter Tools cost quicksilver bullets, that's all. They scale all the way to 99 arc and be incredibly powerful as a result. They are very much worth using against enemies, laying off a Call Beyond into a group of enemies and see them go flying is great. Accursed Brew is great for raw damage, Blacksky Eye is good for long distance damage and drawing single enemies. Gloves home in on enemies, perfect for NPC hunter fights, staggering them with the gloves while you run in for the attack. Keep in mind that these are exactly what they're called - Tools, they are not your main source of damage, they are a supplement to your damage.

Bloodtinge is for gun damage and for the two BLT weapons, Chikage and Bloodletter. With the right gems, they're absurdly strong. A +10 evelyn gun with 50blt is also quite strong. The Hunter Tool, Madaras Whistle, scales with Bloodtinge only. It's fun to use, but hard to actually hit with.

NG+ can be difficult as bosses get tougher, too, it's just more that you're on an even ground now. The real fun begins in NG+3 and beyond.
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>>170629129
Everyone has antidotes, but most people don't have them in the quick menu.
The animation is also slower than blood vials, so easier to punish.
At low levels a two-handed Wheel is going to do a lot of damage anyway, even without Nourishings.
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>>170629516
So should I use poison gems (I assume ailing loran ones would suffice?) or nourishings?
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>>170629589
Poison of course, Logarius' Wheel doesn't have innate poison buildup.
It's a good time to make a low level invader now since there's the restart event going on now.
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>>170629017
Rapid Poison is actually decent on a few bosses like Undead Giants. But yeah for PvP it's better as a twink. I don't know about Whirly, biggest reason poison works good for Wheel is multi-hits come out all at once quickly. Whirly's L2 isn't as fast and you gotta hold it down longer, enough for most players to just dodge out of unless they were trapped.
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>>170629959
Yeah, Whirligig isn't really ideal.
I think Blade of Mercy would be interesting.
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dead thread :(
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>>170632734
youre a dead thread
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>>170632821
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>>170632734
The last few threads have been pretty slow despite the fact that we always have the same IP count
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>>170632734
Then post something on topic instead of dedposting
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League.
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>>170633128
we don't really need an imgur album of pictures you're supposed to collect lurking
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beautiful
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Lots of people wearing Graveguard hood in SRRC today
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Would you use it?
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Fake Iosefka is such a bitch to fight, how many blood vials does she have?
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>>170634908
NPC hunters generally only heal 1-2 times tops, as far as I know
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>>170635451
She healed at least four times against me.
I just started a new character and fought fake Iosefka for the sake of it, she' surprisingly strong.
Not only she heals more than any other NPC, but she also has a very large arsenal that does tons of damage.
She uses a poison threaded cane, repeating pistol, augur of Ebrietas, a call beyond and even numbing mist. She's like the Choir hunter in Byrgenwerh but a bit weaker.
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Anyone wanna give me a hand with Ebrietas? Pass is BB1. I'll try not to embarrass myself.
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>>170635739
Story or Chalice Ebby?
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>>170635870
Story. In front of the fog gate now
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>>170635948
On my way!
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I guess the event is yet to kick in at full force, not so many people at Willem's Burgers today.
Hopefully by holidays there shall be more.
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>>170636001
Cheers big ears
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>>170634502
No, it's too precious.
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>>170636058
The event is about restarting the game from the beginning, people are probably still at the beginning.
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>>170636063
Glad to help m88
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>>170636301
Thanks man! Good stuff
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Asked a cute girl at work how I should make my Reddit event Skilltinge hunter. Excited to create her later tonight, even though she is going to end up hideous.
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>>170636668
What did she say?
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>>170636858

shes big into fantasy, elvish shit. Said i should make her with green hair and red eyes and glasses. Should fit this Reddit event perfectly
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>>170637094
True, prepare yourself for the upvotes.
What are some "elvish" clothes in BB though?
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>>170637094
[vomiting intensifies]
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good build for bowblade?
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>>170636668
>>170637094
You sound like a beastly idiot dess.
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>>170636668
My female character, Mary.
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>>170633040
Yes
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Anyone want to help out with rom? I'm running a pure ARC build and this fucker's giving me more trouble than usual because of it. The password is "doll".
Not the dungeon variant, just plain old rom.
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>>170638809
On my way
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>>170638809
>Arc
>not absolutely raping Rom

Just use the flame sprayer.
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>>170638809
>>170638992
lol shit my bad. If you die we can try again. I'll try to be less retarded.
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>>170634502
Someone needs to put that leech on a diet, and definitely more walkies.
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>>170639234
>>170639343
yeah ill be ringing in a sec, got to restock on vials.
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>>170639479
No worries, ready when you are
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>>170639479
OMW
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>>170639623
k
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>>170639479
Also gate or lamp?
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>>170639573
>>170639623
ringing now
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>>170639717
gate
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>explore the whole area
>find some dumbass with a tonitrus who drops it when I kill him
>finally go fight boss
>drop is the badge to buy tonitrus
Who thought this is a good idea? If this was a dead end, I'd be pissed as fuck.
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>>170639830
Fuck, coming then.
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>>170639718
Success!
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>>170640012
ah, sorry we already killed it. thanks anyways, though.
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>>170639995
OH MY GOD IT ACTUALLY IS A DEAD END
Why the fuck did I even do this area?
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>>170640065
Many thanks for that ps+ is wearing off in a few days and I wanted to get him out of the way for sure.
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>>170640120
You'll be back soon enough.
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>>170640198
No worries
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>>170640081
It's okay I'll just invade instead.
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>>170640120
>>170639995
Considering the Tont has the durability of a breakaway glass window, having multiples isn't exactly a bad thing.

Going there lets you befriend the chaingunner, lets you farm twin shards early, and sets up some atmosphere for something that happens later.
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>>170640387
Also gets the Yahar'gul Black set early, and allows Adella at the Chapel, place is far from useless prior to the main event.
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Anyone wanna fight story Amyg? Ring at the gate.

BL60
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>invading 2v1
What is this shit
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>>170641060
I'm pretty new, but IIRC only solo invasion areas are nightmare frontier and mensis nightmare.
Honestly once you upgrade your weapon to +9 and get okay gems that will hardly bother you, there is no weapon memory and it's easier to punish players that are worse than you. I hardly lose any invasions now.
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>>170641620
Yeah but I'm a new player and want to explore the fucking area. But good call, I am in the nightmare frontier.
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>>170641682
People there might be geared better than you. I tried PvPing there for the first time at bl40 with 18% gems and got my ass whooped, so beware.
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>>170641682
Don't kill the bell lady, she doesn't respawn.
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>>170642461
She's already dead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What does she do?
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>>170642601
She summons invaders.
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>>170642762
Well then, why shouldn't I kill her?

Also this area is already very fun. Is this the Black Gulch of Bloodborne?
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>>170643283
Some people keep her alive for the sake of PvP, but I think she respawns if you ring the Sinister Resonant Bell.
It isn't the Black Gulch of BB, you can actually see in front of you and the area boss isn't a sentient pile of meat pudding with an oversized butcher's knife. And there aren't a bunch of statues spitting poison, just those blobby white crawlers.
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>laurence has more health than ludwig
>ludwig drops more blood echoes
what did they mean by this
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WHY IS THIS VAMPIRE WEEB IN THE GRAND CATHEDRAL SO FUCKING STRONG REEEEE
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>>170644445
All you have to do is wait for him to get in the range of a charged R2. The Wooden Shield can remove almost all of the damage from his gun.
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>>170644445
Wait for him to visceral then combo his ass and pray he doesn't pull some bullshit like shooting you mid combo.
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Is Great Bridge the best way to farm Blood Vials or is there a better spot later on?
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>>170644960
>>170645027
Or I could find a way to cheese
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>>170645508
Like I said, wait for him to get in range of a charged R2. You may not even need to move during the fight if you do it correctly.
For a fun activity, count the number of bullets he uses in one encounter. I've gone past forty.
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>>170645508
Then lure him into cathedral's gate, he literally can't get out of the cathedral, making him an easy target for viscerals, preferably with weapons that have range.
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>>170645806
The guy is like the majority of bosses across the SoulsBorne games; as soon as you figure out the gimmick, you can do it with very little effort.
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>>170645601
K, did that, beat him
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>>170646228
It's just that easy. Enjoy the Crowhunter Badge and new Oath.
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On the subject of Crowhunters, what would be a good weapon for such a build besides the BoM? My first though was the Rakuyo, but it seems pointless to use the longer version of the BoM. Any ideas?
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>>170619238
Parrys and backstabs will carry you through most of the game. Getting gud at these things will help you immensely.

Also:
PELLETS + PAPER
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>>170619660
PELLETS + PAPER + CLEAVER= GG
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Does flame sprayer break poise better than Rosmarinus?
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>>170644262
Laurence is easier to visceral if you have a good gun, Executioner's Gloves or the bow
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>>170648952
PELLETS + PAPER
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>>170645404
Hunter's Nightmare
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>>170648321
Burial Blade keeps that theme of mercy and siderite, if you'd like to try that out.
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>>170648321
Burial Blade is made of the same material of Blade of Mercy
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>>170649389
>>170649563
Good point, it's the Uncanny version that comes recommended, right? Or the Lost? I know it isn't the Normal, so I can get it before the end of the game.
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>>170649938
Uncanny, you can get it before you kill Gehrman
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>>170649938
Uncanny from a Sinister Lower Loran glyph kkqmduet or something like that. Three 27.2% phys gems and you're set.
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>>170650020
Good, can get it before seeing the Shadows.
>>170650050
That's the glyph, thank you. Have a meme.
I presume I'll be seeing these fuckers on my journey there.
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You can't find runes as loot from root Ailing Loran, right?
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>>170650279
You can
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>>170650279
You can
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So i finished bb around bl85. What is a good weapon for ng+ with 30/30 and at what level should I stop leveling?
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>>170651468
>30/30
You need to pick a side anon
>at what level should I stop leveling?
Around bl 100 if you want frequent online interaction
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>>170651468
Level 98 is our meta. LHB is best for a Quality build.
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>>170651468
>30/30

wew at least pump one to 40

98-117 is the /bbg/ level range for PVP and shit, around that will get you random co-op, too, although people outside of our autism lair go up to 150. Going below 98 is pointless, going above 117 will make us call you a faggot.
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>>170651750
Most people in our FCs aren't 98 though
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>>170651750
Already used it in ng. I'm not into pvp but don't want to overlevel.
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>>170651468
30/30 is a bad idea, go 50/25 instead.
BLs 43, 60 and 100 are popular but there's activity all the way to 250.
But whatever you do, don't ever, under any circumstances, listen to tripsfags.
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>>170651813
Most people outside of bbg only go to 120. A few leddit shitters go to 150. 98 will let you play with the 120s while avoiding the shitters.

>>170651850
98 is still best. It lets you have a finished build without over-leveling, it lets you get summoned by people down to around level 65 without a password, IIRC.
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So stop at 98 for pve?
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>>170652225
Stop at whatever for pve
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>>170652225
Yeah, it is the best catch all level. Too low and you will feel like your build is not finished. Too high and everything will feel trivial and finding co-op without passwords will feel impossible.
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Is there a guide how chalice dungeons works?
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>>170652621
In the OP
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Anyone care to help me take out Loran Camerabeast?

Pass is bbg
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>>170652679
Ringing
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>>170652679
Are you at the fog or the lamp?
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>>170653101
fog
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>>170652945
You tried.
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>>170653101
Thank you for the assistance. Managed to get a bolt abyssal out as well.
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>>170653827
Cheers, m8.
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who /making a new character tonight/ here?
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>>170655246
Me once I decide on a build.
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>>170655246
Doing it right now

Making a pure arc wizard called Zoltan Magnus
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this abhorrent beast is a real bastard
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>>170655540
If you aren't going arc
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>>170655540
He's fun once you get the hang of him. Always a blast to fight.
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>>170655668
>implying AB is more troublesome without arc
BBP + Fire Paper + Serrated Weapon
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>>170655540
Just play passively. Poison knives can add a little bit of DPS too.
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>>170655540
That fucking punch he does drives me fucking crazy, I hate it
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>>170657169
The extendo arm punch? It's slow to wind up. Just dodge towards him.
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>>170657169
Don't dodge away and try to always stay close to him.
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Can anybody yhelp me with orphan? Ill ring at the lighthouse.
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>>170658673
What's the pass, m8?
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>>170658775
Theres no pass
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How's the Redditor co-op going for you? I'm getting summoned quite a lot for Paarl.
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>get invaded in frontier by some bootleg pyramid head looking nigga ft. memeblade
>starts R1ing as hard as he can
>parry him but miss the window for riposte
>immediately runs off behind the silverbeasts
>uses messengers gift while in plain sight
>creeps back behind a pillar, up the gravestone and onto the bridge
>generally being le ebin troll xd
>this goes on for about 5 minutes
>goes into the elevator cave but doesn't go down
>walks out, shoots me and walks back in
>finally comes up to fight
>uses old hunter bone and just starts dodging
>uses it again
>tries to dash R1
>parry
>dead
>clap
Why do people just run off behind mobs and hide? Did he actually expect me to follow him?
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>>170658880
You'll need a pass for /bbg/ people to find you, anon, or you'll end up with randoms
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>>170658880
I won't be able to connect with you if you're outside my level range, and I might not connect to you period.
Just set it to bbg if you can, to guarantee we connect. I connected to somebody named Billy.I'm guessing this isn't you.
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>>170658942
And how do i put up a pass? Im new to thr online aspecr
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>>170659059
>hit options
>system
>network
>set to worldwide
>go to password
>enter in any password, for example, bbg
>R2 to enter
>ring beckoning bell from your inventory, uses 1 insight
>jolly co-op

When you ring, a little bell symbol appear sunder your health, if there's an x through it, move somewhere else until the little x is gone.
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>>170659207
Ok im ri ging i got the network thig down. Pass iss bbg
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>>170659365
Let me restock quickly and I'll ring.
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>>170659365
I'll come help too
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>>170659453
Ty ybrot. Sorry if i was being useless, i got 1 shot thr last time i tried to co op him
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>>170660045
Don't worry, m8, you were doing just fine. Thanks for having me.
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The best thing about this revival is going through Central Yharnam for co-op, so rare
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>>170661842
>encountered three players in Forbidden Woods at bl40
>they all had characters with silly meme faces
Reddit never disappoints
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>>170663063
I've had a 'Dragon' and a 'WeedSmoker' so far.
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>playing my optimal builds for months
>try my old super not optimal skill character again 50 VIT 50 SKL 30 END 10 STR
>so much fun dodging and weaving being stylish with my rakuyo
I'm never using 12 END again, fuck optimal, Imma have fun.
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Gonna do another playthrough for fun while I wait for the new DS3 DLC, what's the best type of build for the Moonlight Holy Sword?
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Can I do pure arcane build? Like fuck strength and dex completely, arcane only.
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holy shit darkbesat is ravaging me

can't see shit
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>>170664930
Certainly.
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>>170664930
Sure, just put elemental gems on your non-split damage weapons and their scaling will be entirely converted in arcane
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>>170664930
Parasite is a pure arc weapon, and I think it's fitting that the final stage of pure arc builds involves transformation into a cosmic broccoli.
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Should I go Skl/Blt or Skl/Arc for reset?
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>>170665065
>>170665132
>>170665371
Cool thanks
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>>170665442
Skl/Arc don't be a fagit
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>>170664943
fug got close but then died

fighting this thing is fucking hard, if I get close to avoid his attacks, he blasts me into oblivion before I can get out

If I stay outside range, dodging his lingering hitbox claws feels impossible

I hope I get something cool
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>>170664930
>try pure arc
>mmmmmmm parasite is ass
>spam gloves and use OP fire cleavers and canes
My pure ARC experience.
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When i am looking for random co_op dungeons to help people am i onky linited to the dunheond i already have done?
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>>170665869
Yes
It's also impossible to join a CRF dungeon if you never made one first
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>>170665523
What's wrong with Blt?
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>>170666163
Draws edgelords is all, plus Arc is just cooler and gets more goodies
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>>170665765
>parasite is ass
rude
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>>170666284
What if I don't want to be a cosmic broccoli though?
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>>170666386
Use a different rune
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>>170666386
You don't have to be a broccoli, that's just if you want to use the Kos Parasite fully.
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It's normal to struggle a lot with this game even if I did over 600 hours of all dark souls games and SL1 runs on all of them?
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>>170666589
ATENSHONE

I'm going through the game on ng++ as an executioner. Need fellow cone heads who want to go through the game in full executioner outfits and bully beasts into oblivious with the wheel.

I'm bl 117,right at the beginning of the game outside of Iosefka's clinic. Anyone wanna join?
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>>170666703
Maybe, I guess?

Things are a lot more fast paced than the other Souls games.
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>>170666703
Yes, it's a different game. Enemies are faster, shields don't work on melee attacks, many base machanics are different from Dark Souls.
You'll get used to it though.
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We pretend it's March 2015
>Heal button
>12 fps sonyggER cinematic experience
>5 areas
>6 weapons
>sickdark
>PC port practically confirmed
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>>170666934
Oh sheeit let me see what I can do, this would be fun as fuck, give me like five minutes to gem shit up
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>>170667036
>We pretend it's march 2017
>pretends it's March 10, 2017
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>>170665660
>>170664943
>chain charge R2 darkbeast with the kirkhammer while it's charging it's AoE
>it literally can't get up

This felt so cheese this weapon is awesome I don't understand why people prefer Ludwig's, I used it a bit and despite being gorgeous it just lacks something.

I wish I knew where to find the wheel. That also looks sick.

>>170666962
I guess so.
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>>170667068
Alright, will be ringing right outside Iosefka's clinic. Pass is wheel

This could be even more fun if other anons try to invade as Cainhurst knights.
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>>170667270
I'm just outside the gates, couldn't ring inside them, but I am READY
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>>170667136
Kirkhammer is rarely used because the regular tricked R1 combo seems to be bugged.
You often hit with the hammer's "shockwave" instead of the actual hammer even if you're very close to the enemy. This leads to very bad damage, reason why many Kirkhammer users stick to the L2 combo instead of R1.
L2 is slower, but it always does full damage.
As for the Wheel, you'll find it later on. You need to complete Alfred's quest for it.
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>>170667270
THE FUCKING RUNE FUCK SORRY
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>>170667679
The jumping attack for Kirk can't even fully damage crows on flat ground.....
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>>170667747
Lmao no worries.
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>summon in Central yharnam just so I can feel like Im participating
>two guests promptly run off and disappear into the abyss

i dont know what I expected
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>>170667270
I wish I could join but my internet is shit today
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>>170667270
Where are you now? I'm booting up.
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>>170666703
I dont get that at all. I always played Souls shieldless and found BB way easier thanks to the increased iframes and less ridiculous enemy tracking. How the hell did you do your SL1 runs? I can imagine that BB must be hell for shield babbys, though.
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>>170667957
I'll join you once I've decided whether to do Bloodtinge or Arcane build!
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>>170668043
50blt/25arc
Chikage + Bloodletter + Evelyn + Executioner's Gloves and other tools
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>Upper Cathedral Ward
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>>170668023
Funnily enough, I did all my runs in DaS2 and DaS3 shieldless.

I can safely say that the DaS3 character is way more nimble than BBs, because of how absurdly good is roll spam.

What I'm missing is hyperarmor, omnidirectional rolls, actual defense and manual aiming.
>>
>having a 850 evo in my ps4pro with boost mode

Those load times....
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>>170667993
Fellow executioner tobias died so I'm still ringing aoutside iosefka's.
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>>170668043

not a big deal m8. just summoned for shits and gigglez
>>
I did not know that Djura and his friend dies after the time goes to night
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>>170668198
Might give that a go then. Would it be later viable to wield the chaingun later on say in a NG+?
>>
Tobias you still here? I'm re-ringing outside Iosefka's. Gonna do Gascoine first.

>>170668438
They don't
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>>170668206
What about it? The werewolf ambush can be cheesed easily, and brainsucker AI can also be abused.
I liked it for aesthetics, but Upper Cathedral Ward felt kinda too short.
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>>170668332
My scrub ass it outside there, too, awaitin'
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>>170668528
That requires a lot of strength, you would end up overleveled if you add it to the build.
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>>170668434
Just want to do a new run. I did my first game and NG+ as a generic strength/skill mix as I was learning the game and now I want to try a specific build.
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>>170668693
Suppose that's fine then. Like I said, I'll probably aim to have that in NG+
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>>170668493
Wat?
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>>170668618
The mixture of the music and the sounds the brainsuckers make put me on edge the whole time. That and it was dark as fuck.
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>>170668570
Really? Hm, I wonder what killed them then. Because I know for a fact that I didn't.
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>>170668570
Still right outside clinic?
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Back to the Central Yharnam Lamp?
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Cleric beast? More like holy pancake. Nice work lads.

>>170669184
Ringing right outside cleric beast arena.
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>>170668326
I'm honestly not that bothered by the loadtimes, though I didn't get the game until after the patches reduced them somewhat.
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>>170663190
It keeps happening.
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What's the best build for a moralfag? It seems like everyone and everything in this game is some depraved abomination.
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Tobias, we got an infiltrator. You wanna sit this one out? I'll summon you for Amelia I promise.
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>>170669442
Ringadingaru
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>>170669796
Oooh cheeky little boyo

No worries, I had to go take my gut meds, let me know when you Cathedral Ward and open dem gates
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>>170669797
Nevermind. Bloody crowsteel showed up and then coinhurst knight left. Riging outside clerics.
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>>170669796
That was.. interesting...
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>>170669796
I thought the enemy summoning worked both ways, guess it doesn't. Tobias, feel free to join.
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>>170669741
Simon cosplay
>>
Vit 16
End 24
Str 23
Skill 12
Blt 6
Arc 8

Should I keep pumping str or go for arc for more scaling?
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>>170670296
You put to much into to End, don't add any more.
What kind of build are you going for? If this is your first time playing, the Arc scaling on a weapon just means how it will scale if you convert it into an elemental weapon, your weapon doesn't actually scale with Arc. Don't put any points into it if you are just playing through the game for the first time.
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>>170669796
>invite wheels
>a katana joins
The absolute madman
What are we going to purge now?
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>>170670597
Seriosly? I guess I'll keep putting Vit and Str then
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So a Kainhurst knight helped a group of executioners, Bloody crow showed up, my plan to sneak up on ms. piggy backfired, and I forgot I was on a female character so I did a girly squeek when I wanted to do a manly roar. And we also managed to bully Gascan in less than a minute. So far this has been really fun.

Ringing right outside the left side of Odeon hap in a minute.
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>>170670903
Don't mind too much about it on your first time, just do what you feel natural.
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>>170670936
>Playing other games
>Check in on /bbg/ when I'm done
>Missed my chance at glorious purging across NG+2 Yharnam
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>>170670936
Ringing powerfully
>>
Does anyone need help with anything? I'm really bored right now and am wanting to coop.
>>
Sorry guys, I revved up too hard amd killed myself, then I get t killed again on my way to Papa Gasoline's arena. Ringing in a minute in the circular area with two gians in cathedral ward.

>>170671241
Don't worry, you can join me next week, I'll do a Cainhurt knights run.
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>>170671528
Am there
>>
Okay so what the fuck is Ludwig's deal? I've fought him three times and literally haven't gotten a single hit in. I don't really see any obvious openings either.
>>
>>170671765
Do you need help?
>>
>>170671765
Dodge left and try to get under him.
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>>170671765
Learn his tells. He has specific screeches used to announce specific attacks. For the opening leap, just dodge to the left. In general, staying to the left is the best way, as you can just hack away at him till you stun him.
For his jumps, count and roll on 1, and for the longer one, sprint in a straight line.
Don't stay under him for too long unless you want to get trampled by the stomp attack.
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What's with all these bloodtinge builds in Mergo's loft doing 50 damage per shot with the Evelyn? Are they really this bad?
>>
>>170672193
No, you're just too tough
>>
Is worldwide matchmaking okay? The lag's not too bad?

Also how local do they mean by "local"
>>
>>170672793
Stop.
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>>170672819
No idea how this game does it, but I basically never have lag. Game feels the same whether I'm playing with Americans, Euros or Japanese. Like WTF.
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We got invated by UN FORASTERO who was also bloody crow and bullied Amelia. Thanks to whoever invaded us. Makes it more fun.

Lads, we're taking a detour, and visiting Old Yharnam.

Ringing outiside the bulding with the lamo in a minute.
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>>170672793
She's rather easy, yes.

>spoiler
Don't say that or "he" will post it.
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>>170673001
It is time
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>>170672793
she's harder than paarl imo, but she can be disabled more easily
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>>170673162
>>170672958
Crisis averted. Sorry senpai.
>>
Does a bloodtinge build need 25 skill?
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>>170673001
He's the same guy as earlier, needs to work on his VIT.
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>>170673309
no, why would it
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>>170673426
No idea, bloodtinge is the one build i've never done. Assumed you needed that for chikage and a back up.
>>
That was horrifying, Cainhurst must have been quite the horror if it was a whole castle of that.
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>>170673575
Untricked Chikage scales with skill yeah but the moveset isn't that good. I personally don't really feel comfortable with using the tricked Chikage because of the constant life drain. The Bloodletter is way nicer in that regard and also has a great moveset.
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>>170673689
I see, so base skill? How much str do you use for the bloodletter?
>>
I kinda felt bad about Draco, kinda.
Where you ringing after that mass suicide?
>>
how do I make good BB female?
>>
>tries to edge off the platform as carefully as possibly
>still fly off like a fool to my death
>>
GG drako. Wish you could get invaded by two people at the same time.

Fell off the rafters

Ringing at start of old yharnam again.
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>>170673890
Also base. This is what my skill build looks like (the 15 skill is for the bowblade)
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>>170673896
Ringing at the first lamp
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>>170674016
Think i'm going to try this then, thanks for the help.
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>>170673942
I thought you did that on purpose and followed you, surprising enough I survived.
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>>170674016
err, blt I mean
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Fell off the rafter again. Ok we're taking the safer path.

>>170673942

>Wish you could get invaded by two people at the same time.

Now that I remember,
You can. Make a sinister chalice, ring beckoning bell. Than have someone try to get summoned while wearing an enemy rune. You'll have yourself, a coperator, and summenrd hunter of hunters and two red invaders.
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Hello /bbg/

I just finished my first playthrough with a str build and i wanna try some kind of skill build for my next character. Is it a good idea to go mainly for skill and dump the spare points into either arcane or bloodtinge? Or do i have to go for an actual hybrid 50/50 build? I wanna be able to use a skill weapon efficiently but still have other tools at my disposal like arcane abilities or a strong firearm.

Thanks in advance
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>>170674419
That is disgusting, what the hell anon
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>got invaded by a guy named Brass McCain
>boom hammer trick attacked to death
pls
I just want to Cainhurst
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>>170674491
You don't need to invest heavily into arcane for the tools to be useful, so that's viable.

Investing heavily into bloodtinge isn't necessary for a strong gun either, but you won't do much with any of the blt-based trick weapons unless you go almost full BLT.
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Can someone spoil me how to get the wheel I don't want to risk missing it
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>>170674491
Only a small selection of weapons truly benefit from 50/50, you're better off going full skill or 50skill/25str.
You can add 18 arcane points for augur of Ebrietas or 10 bloodtinge for Bowblade and Reiterpallasch.
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>>170674820
Follow Alfred's quest and at the end of it, go to where you first met him. Or you can just do chalice dungeons and get the uncanny version in the pthumeru defilement root chalice.
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>>170674751
Thought you were the only one packing heat?
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AVENGE
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>>170675153
Tobias we got him man ;_;

meet at borbidden forest, windmill lamp, don't tell bloody cainhurst
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>witch of hemwick

was that pinwheel
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>Lady Maria will never pull her trousers down in front of your face and release a pungent Victorian BRAAAAP on your nose
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>>170676226
It's the Pinwheel of Bloodborne if we don't include certain dungeon bosses
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>>170676325
Good
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Holy shit I fucking suck tonight
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Damn, I though I could dogge that, meeting you lads at the lamp. Lets run through the area and activate the first shortcut, then we'll take on Abhorrent beast.
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>>170674831
>>170674771

Alright, i'll probably go full skill and put 18 points into arcane.

Anyway what's the funniest skill weapon in your opnion? I'll start with the cane but i'm unsure what to get next since i very ignorant about skill weapons. The chikage and the blade of mercy seems cool but i have no clue.
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>>170676664
What part are you having trouble with? Chalice dungeons?
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>no matter how hard I try I still can't get an invasion
I'm a failure of a vileblood
Also shout-out to the guy who tried to beast roar me off the edge but just fell off
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>>170676758
Chikage only scales with skill in the untricked mode, which isn't very good
Your options are:
Church Pick
Threaded Cane
Beasthunter Saif
Saw Spear
Reiterpallasch
Burial Blade
Blade of Mercy
Rakuyo

Personally my favorite skill weapons are Church Pick and Reiter.
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I seems like my internet gave up on living, may have something to do with the rain. Gud Hunter out, happy purging for you two.
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>>170677207
Aw man, I wanted to uave a 3v3 fight with the Shadows of Yharnam. See ya, may the good blud guide your way.

Anyone else wanna join in?
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>>170677378
I will join in
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>>170677432
Aight, pass is wheel, ringing at forbidden forest first lamp. Bring your executioner gear.
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>>170677378
Oh crap never mind, my only wheel guy is not even there yet
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>>170677378
I am on my way to PURGE FILTH
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>>170677695
See>>170677560
We'll wait for you.
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>>170677378
>>170677695
...I might be a bit though. If someone else wants to join, don't wait for me.
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>>170677191
Untricked Chicago actually scales with both Str and Skl, just more with Skl obviously. The scaling for both is shit though.
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>>170678106
I mean it only has skill scaling when it's untricked, otherwise it ignores the wielder's skill stat.
Anyway the untricked mode is only for killing weak basic enemies.
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Fuck sorry Tobias.
I think I'm out ofr the day. We'll outge the shadows some other day, thanks for joining in.
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>>170677560
If you can wait couple minutes, I'll join. Gotta kill Amelia real quick
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>>170678281
Really sorry dude

I'm up for it another day! This was fun m8, themed runs are the best, haven't had this much of a giggle since my NG+2 beastmode co-op run
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>>170678280
I'm saying it doesn't only have Skill scaling untricked, it's still got a bit of Strength scaling.
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>suddenly night
>a giant thing in hanging in the church

is one consequence of the other it's just coincidence
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>>170678550
Both are triggered by different factors
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>>170678280
Never mind, I just got what you were saying. Sorry about that, haven't got much sleep yet
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>>170678773
All is well
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Anyone wanna help me with defiled amy? Ill be ringing at the layer 3 lamp, password is bbg
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ATENSHONE

I'm testing to see if we can have 3v2 fights.

Curently in a sinister Isz root chalice. Supposedly, because the chalice already has a bell maiden, using your beckoning bell there would spawn a second bell maiden, letting you get invaded by two people at once.

I'm gonna ring my beckoning bell. It would be great if someone could also ring their small resonant bell and two other people ring their sinister bell, and a fourth person rings resonant while wearing the vileblood rune.

Glyph is: jmph3q6e
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>>170679460
gimme a sec
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>>170679460
Let me boot up, m8
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>>170679474
>I'm testing to see if we can have 3v2 fights
It can be done
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>>170679474
Joining now
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>Reddit event begins
>/bbg/ traffic increases tenfold
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>>170679656
>it can be done

Then let's have a 3v2 fight! Who wants to join? Already got one red.
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so how's that restart going? I've always wanted to invade in the earlier areas
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Gg Abbie, can you try to join again?

>>170679727
Gud, use your sinister bell.
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Thanks man, that was some of the best help ive ever gotten.
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where's the amyfag I'm ringing now
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>>170678467
Speaking of your NG+2 beast run...

It's Jezebel. I'm only partway through this NG+ cycle, and would love to REEEE it up again. I have Old Yharnam, Hemwick and Byrgenwerth available, if you'd like to join. Pass will be REEEE and I'll start beckoning wherever you'd like to start.
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>>170679762
I'm glad honestly, the last few threads were painfully slow
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>>170680124
Cheers, man.
Defiled Amy always gives me that Monster Hunter co-op feel.
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3v2 guy, nvm. Nobody showed up.

>>170680321
Would you mind if a second REEEEEE join in?
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>>170680278
I ailready did it, sorry dude. But im might due some more dungeons tonight so stay tuned
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Is there a way to pursue a specific gem?
What do I do with the billion gems clogging my inventory?
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How do i get red jelly? I nee d. 2 ASAP to do ihyll chalice
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>>170680401
Not at all! The more the merrier.
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>>170680643
Do Isz chalice or go to the 1st floor of the lecture hall
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>>170680594
Sell/Delete the ones you don't need. Enemies in FRC drop the best gems, so look up what you want to know what to kill.
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>>170680680
Alright, give me a sec. gonna go get some runes. Tell me where you wanna start and I'll tell you when I'm ready.
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Hey, does. Anyone wanna explore the regular izh dungeon from start? Im the amyfag guy. The password is bbh, ill be ringing.
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>>170680594
There is a black smith in glyph g1b3g0ld that will purchase your gems for a good price. Find him.
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>>170680990
I'm ringing, anon
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>>170680990
bbg, my, bad
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>>170680990
Ringing.
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>>170680935
Beckoning at the Hemwick lamp now.
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Does anyone want to go destroy the research hall with a powder kek?
Pass: bbg
Ringing at the hallway right after ludwig
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If you want you can help me with the rest of the layers. Ill be ringing, pass is bbg
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>>170681361
Sorry, just got back. Are you still in Hemwick?
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>>170681806
Chilling at the lamp, yes.
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>>170681730
Sure, I'll make sure to take off the executionner rune.
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>>170679762
Well, something's happening and we get to fuck around, what do you expect?
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>>170681868
Ringing.
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>>170681868
I just saw this! Tobias will be there in just a moment if you're still up for some REEEmode. I can be around for a few areas, but then it'll be getting pretty late here.

Should I ring at Hemwick?
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>>170681868
Can I join?
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>>170682083
>>170681868
Is the pass REEEE all uppercase and 4 e's?
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>>170682083
REEEE'd too close to the sun.

>>170682176
At the Hemwick lamp, yes. See you soon!
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>>170682290
REEEEinging
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Going to restock thrn head back in guys, pass is bbg again.
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>>170682614
No problem, I'm ringing at layer 3.
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>>170643283
>very fun
>black gulch
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>>170682290
Are you killing the bell maidens as you go? Or are you open for invasions as well
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It was fun REEEEing with you. I'm out.
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Witches of Hemwick successfully REEEE'd. Off to Old Yharnam, beckoning now.

>>170683110
We're open for invasions but only if you are also a REEEE
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>>170683201
Never picked you up, Jezzie, it's uppercase REEEE with four Es, yeah?
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>>170683275
All ccaps, four E's, yes.
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>>170683201
Well, I guess I won't be invading. I thought that it might be fitting if I invaded as a regular hunter.
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>>170683410
You can still invade, I was just memeing
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Got flailed. Beckoning again.
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>>170681635
Still looking for some co-op?
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Thanks guys, im probably going to do ihyll right now too, so if you want to do it with me just join
Pass is bbg
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>>170683825
Yes.
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>>170683842
Nice, I'll go ring in that hallway then.
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Yharnam waits ahead,
oh, I can't wait... hee hee...
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>>170684005
Are you ringing?
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So is Bloodborne's story all just a dream?
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>>170684183
Yep, I've been ringing for a bit. Haven't picked up your bell. Try ringing at the top of the stairs, in that upper area before the two hunters. I've had some luck being summoned there.
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>>170684224
Nothing is a dream in Bloodborne
What they call "dream" is just an alternate dimension inhabited by arcane creatures
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So, I ended up accidentally finishing the game before doing the DLC, and Ludwig is kicking my ass at level 89 (I just don't do enough damage with a +10 Ludwig's). Gehrman was an awesome fight, as an aside.

Should I level up some or just a new game to experience the DLC?
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>>170684308
Let me restart my bell, its ihyll layer 1
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We got him Tobias, waiting in the burning room with the Bloodstarved Beast.
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>>170684478
Proof?
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Fuckin coward invader

Ringing again for you, Jezzie
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>>170684224
if by dream you mean nightmare dimension you are dragged into by beings who transcend mortal understanding then yes.
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>>170684534
>go to dream
>take item
>go to waking world
>item still in your pocket
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>>170684626
What if you feel asleep with that item and you just dreamed an alternate imaginary version of you getting that item?
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Let me try to do layer one ihyll then ill see if i can summon you for layer 2, if your still there
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>>170684496
dlc is still quite hard on NG tbqh, especially if you haven't done much chalice for some decent gems. Ludwig is pretty strong on NG+, but orphan and laurence are on another level.

Either go chalice first to get some good gems, start a new character or git gud. If it's your first character try making a new one with a proper build. I know my first characters are always a mish mash of random shit.
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Alright beast b o i s, Byrgenwerth or Cainhurst next?
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Alright Segalt, I have enough time to bully Maria if you still want to help out. But after that, I have to call it a night. Have to wake up early tomorrow
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>>170685381
Because I died like scrub with broken claws, I'm coming along for another area

Let's absolutely fuck up Cainhurst
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>>170685384
Absolutely, m8. I'm ringing right by the lamp.
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>>170685492
Thanks for dropping by Segalt. Was about to give up on getting help since no one replied.
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>>170685465
Had to take a detour to get the summons. On my way to Cainhurst now.
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>>170685829
Glad to help out, anon. Cheers for that amazing Gatling Gun bully on poor Maria.
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>>170685927
Is gatling the most underrated weapon in the game?
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I got cut up. Beckoning at the lamp again.
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anyone wanna help with Vicar Dogface in my new playthrough?

bell ringing, pass is bbg
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Anyone wanna help me kill pthumerian descendant in ihyll layer one? Pass is bbg
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Thanks segalt, ima be doing the rest of the layers tonight so if you want to join feel free to ring in. Pass is bbg
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This was a blast, Jezzie, I'm glad we got to REEE it up again. I'm gonna head off for the night, it's 5am here, but if you're going again tomorrow, I'll be up for it!
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My internet has been randomly shutting down lately, sorry Arcane. I'm ringing again. Had to set it back up.
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>>170688350
Thanks for tagging along! I'll be doing this again tomorrow, chances are.

You too Albatross, it was fun.
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Love waking up at 4am.

Anyone up for co-op? I have the entirety of Mensis to do on my pure arc build.
Also, wheres best place to farm Ritual Blood (5)?
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>>170689172
I got to the bloodletting beasts and im gonna call it quits for the night. What time do you get on tommorow? I might give the bloodletting beast a shot with a cooperatore
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>>170689517
Remake Ailing Loran several times and grab the 2 Ritual Blood (5) on layer 1 in a small chest near the werewolf. Or just go through every dungeon you made and clear out the side rooms, you should have enough mats for the next CD. If you haven't gotten it already, there's I think 2 in Upper Cathedral Ward.
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>>170689517
>to farm Ritual Blood (5)?
3nawt3ys if you have access to FRC Isz. Otherwise buy enough of it in NG+ with the echoes you get from doing the chalices before it.

If you refuse to go to NG+ and don't have access to 3nawt3ys, keep remaking (searching) the first Loran dungeon to get the two blood (5)'s out of the little chest in the first layer.
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>>170689893
I'll be on at around 12 PM EST, or to be safer, the late hours tomorrow, around 9 PM EST. I've something in the middle of the day.
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Cainhurst is the most beautiful location in the game
Vilebloods are underrated
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>>170691096
*Central Yharnam
*Fishing Hamlet
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>>170691096
Beautiful, yes, I won't argue that. The original DeS was supposed to include a snowy castle area, and this is probably it's reality. Underrated, not really, they're the invasion covenant and home for edgelords. You want underrated, go for HoH, no one talks about them.
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>>170691210
I like that the Fishing Hamlet is literally Innsmouth. My favorite area aesthetically is probably Cainhurst, though, as well as Byrgenwerth and the Grand Cathedral.
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>>170691096
lumenflower gardens > moon presence arena > nightmare frontier > coast before you kill orphan > hunters night mare first area > bridge to entry of upper cathedral ward > FRC Isz > astral clocktower > altar of despair > other shit
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>>170691096
>>170692391
I'm generally a sucker for wintery areas in games, but the way the light plays off the snow in BB is one of the most unrealistic implementations I've seen t.b.h. Really puts me out of it.

Castle itself is pretty nifty, though.
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>>170692391
Let's break it down by Headstone, then. Favorite area from each one, DLC and dungeons are their own category.
>Central
Probably Old Yharnam. It was the first place for me that felt like a legitimate hunt, with everything destroyed and full beasts roaming freely.
>Frontier
Woods, far and away. I love the place, especially the second half with the snakes. It also houses Valtr and the League.
>Unseen
Yahar'gul Chapel. It feels so ominous looking over that balcony, knowing what's down there. There's also the sense of accomplishment of getting there away from the Amygdala's laser beams.
>Nightmare
Frontier, easily. The brightness feels like an indication that something is very, very wrong with this place.
>DLC
Hamlet. It perfectly encaptures a feeling of desolation and hopelessness.
>Dungeons
Loran. I couldn't tell you why, it just feels right. Isz is also great, but Pthumeru just seems drab, no real theme. Hintertombs, same thing.
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>>170685092

Thanks

I just got him on my 10th go or so NG+ attempt. The second phase is what did me in the most, but I treated him like a giant by hugging his legs and dodging around him and then getting in hits.

Pretty gud long fight, with 2 entirely different fights for the phases.
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>>170692898
Ah yeah, Old Yharnam and Yahar'gul are both great. Loran is the desert one, right? I haven't been able to get there yet, but it sounds like it'd look really nice.
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>>170692930
I find his second form way more manageable than the first.

prepare your anus for the later bossfights tho.
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>>170693018
Loran is great, it has some unique architecture to it, like the rope bridges. It also has a few unique NPC summons, like Vitus and Jozef, and everyone loves an FRC Loran Darkbeast.
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>>170693185
Yeah, I'm excited to see it. Loran isn't where the sages start appearing, is it? I'm really not looking forward to fighting them after the shit I've seen.
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>>170693334
If you mean the Labyrinth Ritekeepers/Dope Smokers by sages, no. They show up earlier, the second story dungeon if I remember. If you mean the Loran Clerics, the satyr looking guys who shoot fire, yes.
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>>170693456
It's those big undead-looking guys who scream and move really fast. Not sure what they're officially called.
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>>170693515
Those guys are considered Sages, yeah. They're also considered Labyrinth Madmen. They first show up in the first Hintertomb, and appear regularly after the second story chalice.
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>>170693515
Madmen, I think. You meet them in Loran, yeah.
RAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>170693515
Yes, Loran is where you first meet them. Have fun
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>>170693620
>>170693575
It's first in Hintertomb. One shows up almost right away in the usual sprinting and screaming fashion, but they appear regularly in Loran.
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>>170693691
>going to the hintertombs
>ever
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>>170693691
Nobody does hintertomb
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>>170693691
Nobody gives a shit about Hintertomb outside of the Madman's Garb.
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>>170693772
>>170693776
>>170693859
It's solely for the Madman set. But it's where the Sages first appear.
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>>170693880
They have decent early Phys triangles too in Lower Hinter. Sages drop like 15%+14 iirc
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What is the greatest piece of dialogue in video game history and why is it "Ahh, you were at my side, all along. My true mentor... My guiding moonlight..."
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>>170695163
(pleased horse noise)
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Name my arc character? She will be wearing student robes with no headgear
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>>170695567
Hermione
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>>170695567
Ms. Grainger
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>>170695163
>Good hunter, have you seen..the thread of light? Just a hair, a fleeting thing. Yet I clung to it, steeped as I was in the stench of blood and beasts. I never wanted to know what it really was. Reall, I didn't! NEEEEEEIGH!
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>>170695567
Fucko the Clown
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At last I understand! The Cosmos, of course! The Cosmos is the real great one! The Cosmos selects a surrogate child! Ebrietas is a surrogate child of the Cosmos, hence her name!
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Is there something somewhere that will explain what the fuck is going on in Bloodborne to me? Ever since I got to Rom I've been getting less comfy and more actively pissed at the weird shit that's around with no explanation. I can't find any item lore telling me why there are bitches ringing bells making everyone a pain, I barely know what an Amygdala is and I'm pretty sure that's because I looked it up, and etc etc. I felt at least sort of grounded in Dark Souls, but I don't have a fucking clue what's going on or what it is I'm doing or why it's having an impact on anything anymore. It's getting frustrating.
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>>170695567
Fucko the Clown
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>>170697358
That is the point. It will make more sense later, but you will still be left feeling like you are missing the whole picture. This a a huge part of cosmic horror; it is about the dreadful and unknowable cosmos wreaking havoc on human beings.
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>>170697358
-Yharnamites find Chalice Labyrinth
-In the Labyrinth they find blood (actually they find Yharnam, from whom they take their name)
-Church of Yharnam begins using the Blood in human experiments
-Blood seems to be a panacea
-People in Yharnam start getting sick
-Blood ministration has no effect
-The afflicted begin turning into beasts
-Yharnam is razed (and remembered now as Old Yharnam) and started anew on higher ground
-Present day; enter Good Hunter
-The Church has split into two factions: The Church, and Mensis
-Mensis is using Blood to try and create the next stage in human evolution
-The Church is still using blood as a panacea and systematically hunting and killing those who turn into beasts
-The Good Hunter has arrived in Yharnam coincidentally on both a Night of the Hunt (and annual Church-sponsored purging of beasts) and the eve of a ritual by Mensis to resurrect an old god
That ought to be enough to get you started.
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>>170698082
>and annual
an* annual
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Going through Nioh did nothing to satisfy my Bloodborne urges, so back to playing Bloodborne it is.

I never did a Wheel build, so I thought I'd correct that. If I'm understanding the numbers from the OP pastebin info, I should go 50 Arc 25 Str if I want to get the most out of the overall tricked moveset/buff, right? With ideal gem setup depending on whether I want to max the dash L1 damage or the overall tricked moveset damage? Or am I retarded and completely missed the point?
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>>170698082
I've got that much, and it made at least some sense. Lots of hints that Blood is making people into monsters or that it's somehow tapping into the bestial portions of the human body.

I'm trying to figure out where the magic bells, the weird spider monster, the weird vagina faces, the new SUPER beasts, or why there's that one boss who's made up of countless bodies that was summoned by a bunch of bitches with bells

Insane humans driven mad by the long night/mare I get. Them growing into beasts I get. Huge fuckos with weapons I get, it's all blood and body stuff. The Darkbeast idea I thought was going to go somewhere, electricity-using monstrous beasts that were the results of things getting worse and trying to fix it. I missed whatever was going on with the Vicar.

Why were the giant pigs replaced by the masses of bodies dragging around boxes? Is it trying to imply that the pigs were being fed humans until they were huge and that they're really masses of bodies? Is there a new monster that we're supposed to be learning about? Why did the Mensis people turn into wax folks or giant bug men? There's no new gear or equipment to drop hints about the origins or even just some information about any of this stuff.
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>>170698147
>an annual
*your headcannon
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>>170697731
>feeling like you are missing the whole picture
It's really more like not even knowing there's a picture to begin with

>This a a huge part of cosmic horror
The problem is you don't even know what to be afraid of. The game throws so much at you with so little explanation that you end up just tuning out most of it. Good horror is subtle and leaves a lot to the imagination, I agree, but you need to have some foundation upon which to base your imaginings.
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>>170698501

>I'm trying to figure out where the magic bells

Mad pthumerian women using bells that resonate accrose worlds, effectively acting as portals to summon shit

>the weird spider monster

Rom ascended into kinhood (or great one status if you believe the trophy hy descripions) those spiders are in the process of mutating/evolving into rom like creatures. That's why there are spiders with human heads and big ass spiders

>the weird vagina faces
Byrgenwerth scholars/thumerians transformed into kin creatures due to high exposure to the Eldritch truth and too much inisght

>the new SUPER beasts, or why there's that one boss who's made up of countless bodies that was summoned by a bunch of bitches with bells

All part of the Mensis ritual. They were trying to create a great one but it just made a mess of bodies

>The Darkbeast idea I thought was going to go somewhere, electricity-using monstrous beasts that were the results of things getting worse and trying to fix it

My personal theory is that Dark beasts are the final evolution/or de-evolution into a beast. it's the human body fighting off the kin (electricity)

>I missed whatever was going on with the Vicar.

Current head of the healing church, happened to turn into a beast as soon as you arrived into the Grand Cathedral. The more you try to resist to the transformation the worse a beast you become, that's why church members turn into the worst beasts

>Why were the giant pigs replaced by the masses of bodies dragging around boxes? Is it trying to imply that the pigs were being fed humans until they were huge and that they're really masses of bodies? Is there a new monster that we're supposed to be learning about?

Most likely the cramped caskets (that's what they're called, they're caskets full of corpses that exploded into life) eat the pigs along with the sac men.

>Why did the Mensis people turn into wax folks or giant bug men?

Those who didn't get sucked into the One Reborn got petrified into the walls
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>>170698545
I disagree. Cosmic horror is about not having ground to stand on; cosmic horror is about feeling overwhelmed by the vastness of the cosmos and the smallness of mankind. Cosmic horror is the horror of thought; it feeds the mind, and when the mind is left to wander, then the real horror sets in. Cosmic horror is not a quick-trill horror, cosmic horror is slow and powerful horror. Bloodborne's true horror comes to you when you've read into it. The stories of each character is a story of man coming into contact with the magnificent power of the Cosmos and/or his own limits before the cosmos. The horror behind each part of Bloodborne harkens back to the greater narrative, the greater picture; Bloodborne hints at REAL horror: the horror of the waking world.
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>>170699135
Okay, so the bells resonate between worlds, and the pthumerians figured that out and use that to their advantage. Is that about right? I know that pthumeria has something to do with the chalice dungeons but I got fed up with those pretty quick. The fact that grey bitches like hiding in corners where I can't find them probably adds to my frustration with them.

Are all the bosses supposed to be important folks? They've all had pretty generic names except a few, and I wasn't sure whether that's because they've devolved enough to lose their names/humanity or because they're not that important.

So Mensis started sticking people and beasts together in boxes in order to try and make themselves a god. So is the night because they succeeded, or nearly have? Little notes and messengers here and there keep telling me to kill babies and I'm not sure why. The whole nightmare is being made by the birth of some Old One-like creature, which is echoing so roughly that it's translating into the Night one dimension over and driving everyone insane - Is that right?

Supplementary question, Frenzy causes your blood to explode out of your body. Why. Is it the beast's blood trying to get free? Is it brain hemorrage from something trying to make you into a monster?

Sorry for bothering with all the questions but I've had trouble finding solid answers, most guides just focus on what to do and the immediate problems.
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>>170698356
25/50 Str/Arc for tricked moveset yeah. Nourishings for the buff and whole moveset, Flat Arc for multi-hits (dash r1 and r2s usually).
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>>170699575
Is alright. Give me a sec while I write my response. Don't wanna type a wall to have you leave without reading it
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>summon gascoigne for cleric beast
>crossing the bridge
>he uppercuts one of the scourge beasts into the air
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>>170699765
You're a scholar. Potentially one with a cage around their head. For whatever reason.
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>>170699575

>Okay, so the bells resonate between worlds, and the pthumerians figured that out and use that to their advantage. Is that about right?

Yeah. We don't know how they used it beside for summoning back up, but the bells where found in the pthumerian ruins by the church.

>I know that pthumeria has something to do with the chalice dungeons

Yeah, with the Pthumerum chalices in specific. That's where the Byrgenwerth scholars found the old blood. The pthumerians were super humans who had contact with the great ones and the eldritch truth

>Are all the bosses supposed to be important folks? They've all had pretty generic names except a few, and I wasn't sure whether that's because they've devolved enough to lose their names/humanity or because they're not that important.

Well...

>Cleric beast is just a nameless healing church cleric who turned into a beast
>Vicar amelia is possibly the current leader of the healing church
>Father Gascoine is just a hunter
>witch of hemwick has almost no lore to her so she is kinda unimportant
>Shadows of Yharnam are Queen Yharnam's bodyguards which show up in the forest near Byrgenwerth because queen yharnam is at moonside lake
>Martyr Logarius was the leader of the executioners and commanded the raid that annihilated most of the Vileblood lineage
>One reborn was a failed attempt by the mensis school to create a great one
>celestial emmyssary was the Choir's success at creating a great one the could help them facilitate contact with other great ones
>Amygdala is just a great one chilling in a nightmare
>Wet nurse is the great one protecting mergo
>ludwig was the first church hunter
>Laurence was the reason Yharnam and the healing church was created. He fucked around with the old blood against Willem's warning
>Maria was Gherman's apprentice, participated in fishing hamlet massacre and protects the church's secret in the nightmare
>living failures are a failed attempt at making celestial emissaries

(1/?)
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>>170699575
>>170700334
>Ebrietas is a great one the Choir (the healing church's highest rank) got a hold off. Through her they were able to get the Isz chalice and access to the Isz dungeons
>blood starved beast is just a beast
>dark beast paarl is just a beast, but potentially it could have been an experiment made by Archibald (Bloodborne's Tesla) who was fascinated with the electricity that came off dark beast hides and made a bunch of equipment that used it. (Paarl drops his badge, and the path to his area shows a cage borken, so Archibald could have been experimenting on him and he ate Archibald and escaped.)
>Gherman was the first hunter ever. He created trick weapons and the first hunter workshop
>Micolash is the leader of the school of mensis and the only mensis guy on the nightmare that didn't get his brain smushed (though he seems pretty crazy when you meet him)
>Moon Presence is the great one responsble of creating the hunter's dream and trapping hunters to do stuff for him

>So Mensis started sticking people and beasts together in boxes in order to try and make themselves a god.

Kind of. Most factions in Bloodbirne are trying to find a way to ascend. To get closer to the Great Ones. They all use different methods and Mensis's method was trying to summin a baby great one and to try to turn themselves into a great onez.

So is the night because they succeeded, or nearly have? Little notes and messengers here and there keep telling me to kill babies and I'm not sure why. The whole nightmare is being made by the birth of some Old One-like creature, which is echoing so roughly that it's translating into the Night one dimension over and driving everyone insane - Is that right?

They got sucked into the nightmare possibly before the game begins. You killing Rom (which was keeping the vail on humanity and the red moon from descending) is what allows Mergo (the great one Mensis is trying to bring about) to be born.

(2/?)
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Is Frenzy the most bullshit mechanic FROM has ever done or is it Adaptability from DS2?
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>>170701089
Frenzy isn't that bad tbqh, just pop 2 vials or a sedative after getting procced. Or you know, i-frame it with viscerals.
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>>170701089
I would have liked frenzy if there was a gimmick to avoid it, like pointing the camera away from Winter Lanterns or whatever is giving you the frenzy.
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>>170699575
You keep seeing messages telling you to kill a baby because that is your job as a hunter of the dream: to kill Mergo. That's why, once you kill Wet Nurse (which leads to Mergo dying because WN was taking care of him/her. A wet nurse is someone who takes care of a child when their parents are not able to) mergo dies, the "Nightmare is slain" and Moon presence doesn't need you anymore, so your contract is finished. Mergo created the Nightmare of mensis, but the hunter's nightmare and fishing hamlet are probably created by Kos or Orphan, and nightmare frontier by Amygdala. The reason people are going mad is because of the red moon, which is caused by moon precense (probably) and that causes the old blood in people to react and turn them into beasts.

>Frenzy causes your blood to explode out of your body. Why. Is it the beast's blood trying to get free? Is it brain hemorrage from something trying to make you into a monster?

It is actually supposed to represent you gaining somuch knolwedge that your brain can't handle it. The knowledge is so much that it literally hurts you. That is a concept borrowed from H.P. Lovecraft, where knowledge of the cosmic gods makes you mad. I think in japanese it is called "insanity" instead of "frenzy" which makes more sense.

(3/3)
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>>170701089
it's deadly with no frenzy resist and too much insight. but if you take 2 minutes to sort out some frenzy resist gear it's not a problem at all. your hunter gear you get at the start has decent resist stats and a frenzy rune is in frontier.
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>>170701272
>>170700901
>>170700334
>>170699135
dude can you please differentiate between what's actually confirmed and your headcanon so this poor anon who you're spoonfeeding doesn't get the wrong idea.
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>>170699509
>feeds the mind
>Cosmic horror is not a quick-trill horror, cosmic horror is slow and powerful horror
>Bloodborne hints at REAL horror: the horror of the waking world
Apparently all that superior brainpower doesn't grant self-awareness.
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>>170701428
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit

actually worth the read even though it's 100+ pages long
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>>170701491
I've read it you fag. Still doesn't change the fact that a lot of what you are saying are opinions and not facts
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>>170701428
Lmao if we're going by what's actually 100% confirmed and not up for interpretation then he already knew everything there was to know.
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>>170701620
I'm not that person and don't you dare speak to me like that ever again or you will regret it.
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>>170701428
Did you not see all the "my theory is" "possibly" and "likely"'s placed when apprpiate?
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>>170701702
I'll give you a big NO to that question

>>170701645
sign down in loran, fag

>>170701638
there's a lot left up for interpretation and a lot that's very much confirmed if you're not a total retard who knows how to read in between the lines.
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>>170700334
>>170700901
>>170701272
Man, there's a lot here to think about. I'll sleep on it. Thanks for trying to ease my frustrations, anon.
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>>170701852
So you're just being a cunt because that guy's interpretation of the lore doesn't fit your headcannon made mostly by exposure to youtubers who make money off of regurgitating other people's interpretations, then complain about people not being able to read between lines when you yourself can't even read the lines of post and understand when someone is giving his own interpretation?

lmao™!
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>>170701992
Np, you should also read >>170701491
That link when you get the time. It actually has a lot of good information on most of the game's lore and some interesting interpretations.
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Do I want to do a strength build or a skill build, /bbg/?
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>>170702049
I'm being a cunt because I think that anon should get the basics and then work out the rest for himself. Here he is given all of the answers, some being blatantly wrong.

>>the weird vagina faces
>Byrgenwerth scholars/thumerians transformed into kin creatures due to high exposure to the Eldritch truth and too much inisght

nice interpretation with no proof to back it up pham
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>arc build
>decide to pthumeru straight after BSB for double fire gems
>mfw fighting undead giant
I've never been so aware of how awful a boss fight this is. His stepping on you constantly upsets dodge timings, as well as prevents any type of rally. His input reading is retarded, and you fight him in a specimen dish. Then there's the unreasonable amount of HP he has.

I'm glad I never tried to farm these pieces of shit on my church pick character.
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So I'm gonna derail from all this riveting lore bitching and ask: is it normal to experience lag in PvP? It seems like every match I've had so far had around a half second lag(the most recent one was the worst, closer to a second).
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>>170702248
Also, my missing face.
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>>170702223
>understanding the lore should be le hard because this is a le hard game if you are confused well get le gud at lore

Do you have a trauma with people getting help because your parents never helped you in anything?
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>>170702223
>eldritch truth turns people into insectioid creatures
>the vagina faces are found in pthumerian dungeons and at burgenwerth, right next to the burgenwerth scholars that turned into mosquito monsters

>complains about people not being able to read between lines

Please stay away from any kind of profession that requieres creativity
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>>170699135
Shut up you autistic fucking nigger. Are you retarded? Do you take this as fact? Kill yourself. Get out of this thread. You are GAY and your mother is community property.
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>>170702248
I like to bait his swings that chain into each other. Wait for him to do 2, dodge in on the third and hit him a few times in the back. Rinse and repeat
this boss is really fucking boring and tedious but you can do it
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Jesus fuck ive killed this bone ash hunter over 50 times and not even got the right arcane gem for my parasite. What is this bullshit. She just drops temperings.
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>>170702608
>not farming an offshape 27.2% radial stamina use up gem
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>>170702608
Which one are you killing? If it's one in Loran you've been sorely mislead. Kill the one in Isz.
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>>170699751

Thanks, that's what it seemed like from the numbers but I wasn't sure.
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>>170702836
Yes its Isz. Got the glyph of bloodborne wikis best gem setups page. I have the worst luck farming, i have 90 arc and all 3 eye runes too.
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It was aliens; everything in the game was done by aliens, the beasts were just a side of it.
The whole time I thought I was in a Gothic setting about werewolves the ayys were fucking about controlling nightmare realms.
What the fuck.
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>>170703885
I know right? The whole ayy lmao thing was kinda spoiled for me because when I read through all the messages you could place, it had a lot of shit regarding the cosmos which made no sense in a Victorian/Gothic setting.

Anyone else catch on like I did?
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>getting my ass handed to me by gascan
guys I'm scared

wtf is going on

did I lose all my insight?
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>>170705324
I knew something slightly more fucked up than beasts was going on when I saw this before the game was released. I never knew it'd be based cosmic horror.

I sort of wish they'd kept this silhouette in the game somewhere, it's really unnerving
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>>170705619
No

>>170705324
Maybe they could have made it so any messages regarding the cosmos or great ones couldn't be seen until you had enough insight
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>>170705980
>>170705324
>>170703885

My friend is playing through the game blind on my PS4 and he thinks the entirety of the game is about killing furries.

He remarked at Hemwick how he got a "Cthulhu" vibe from the place and I had to bite down on my tongue to avoid giving any spoilerinos.

He's going to Byrgenwerth and Yahar'gul soon so that'll be fun. Also I'm not telling him anything straight up, we have a policy that I confirm / deny if there is something in an area that he doesn't know about but no specifics.
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>>170705980
It wasn't a serious question, I was trying to be clever.

This is my third character. I think at this point I've died to him more times than my first character.
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>>170705619
Why gascan if it should be theoretically pronounced more like " gascon' " with a soft n? Aren't you supposed to pronounce it the way french say champignon/oignon, because gascoigne is a french name?
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>>170706279
Are you dying to human Gascoigne or murrsuit Gascoigne? If it's the former, git gud at parryin him or cheese him over the gravestones. If latter, kite him around the big gravestone and take a swipe at him through it every once in a while. Works on every starter weapon.
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>>170706443
>That picture

The hunter would wreck them so hard it would just be sad
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>>170706234
I wish I didn't get spoiled. I would have loved to see shit gradually turn then flat out brick when I saw one of the wallcrawlers
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>>170705324
>outside the chapel
>"fear the unseen, have audience with a superior being"
>haha what its just eileen
>come later
>oh
>>170706527
Good Hunter would not fair well against shields.
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>>170705324
I got spoiled early on, but I think I would've figured it out as soon as I saw my first brainsucker.
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>>170701089
Frenzy and the Jailers from DaS3 are a fun mechanic. The Scraping Spear from DeS was a bullshit mechanic because of how easy it was for someone with no skill to break your gear and it was countered with nothing else except another scraping spear. Durability as a gameplay mechanic is fun but the scraping spear was just straight up bs.
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>>170706665
The cthulhu guards were in DeS as well and that game had no ayylmaos.
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>>170706443
Honestly it's all over the place. The past couple tries I've been able to get to beastmode Gascoigne, but it feels almost like luck. I'm getting seriously demoralized here and starting to wonder if I somehow squeaked through my previous playthroughs with a combination of luck and overleveling. His attacks seem impossible to parry since there's that little half-second window between pressing the trigger and the gun actually firing. I'm basically just getting close to him, firing, and hoping for the best. Also I'm fucking up dodges when he knocks me down because I'm tired and frustrated.
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>>170706763
Yeah, but I didn't play DeS.
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>>170701089
Eh, Adaptability wouldn't be that bad if the game had more tight hitboxes so that there would still be reason to keep it low and try to progress relying solely on your dodging skills. And the adp/ description actually states what it does in a more or less understandable way.
Also I think Frenzy is a pretty unfitting name.
>>170706763
You mean the guys from Latria? Pretty sure they're a mindflayer copypaste, a classic D&D monster. And yes, I know that illithids are indirectly inspired by Lovecraft stuff as well.
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>>170706828
What weapon are you using? I personally either recommend using the tricked form of Hunter Axe and the Threaded Meme and cheesing him over the gravestones if you can't parry him. At +3 any weapon should eat through his health no problem. Also remember that the music box triggers him so you can get some freebie hits in.
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>>170706660
>Good Hunter would not fair well against shields.

Knights would not do well against speed, trick weapons, guns, 20 blood vials, and reclaiming lost health
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>>170706957
I mean that's good advice but I'd rather not cheese him. I don't know what the fuck is going on, I just need to beat him already so I can feel at least somewhat normal.
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>>170707164
Put on the dress and pretend to be his wife. Then suck his dick until he's out cold
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>>170707021
>hunters bone wheeldashing with rapid poison gems
>END yourself with this
Chosen undead and co wouldn't have a chance.
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>>170707327
>greatshield
>estoc
?????
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>>170707497
>implying they'd track well enough to keep on top of good hunter
Really though, my dad can beat up your dad.
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>>170707323
Well erections technically are blood, I guess...

It's okay I finally got him thank fuck. No whoring for me tonight.
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>>170707164
Personally, don't use the music box coz it will trigger his beast much more earlier. there is a few trick fighting him in his human form.
1. first is parrying, srsly, he is quite a hard boss if u not good with parrying his attack since i think his purpose in the game is making u git good with parry system. I beat him without moving much since it will distract my focus and i tried to parry him all the time look at the ground when he tried to upswing his axe, when the ground shines then shoot at him that will guaranteed a viscreal attack otherwise just hit 1-3 and back off.
2.The stair trick which i dont personally like, the purpose is too limit his movement since he like to jump a lot, this is a good way if u truly confident with ur parry skill if not, it same as him, ur movement is also limited
3.Graveyard tomb trick, use the cane and fight him infront of the tomb since the cane range is able to bypass the tomb while he cannot.

For his furry mode, i suggest to play safe and invest some of ur echoes into buying molotov, always use the molotov the retreat, Lock-on when u trows, unlock when u run
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Is it weird that aesthetically Chalices are one of my favourite locations in the game?
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>>170705662
Thing is with that there is it could still be passed off as a beast, but fucking huge and mutated.

Just a massive spider-like cunt. Can't tell it's an ayyy lmao from the lighting.
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>>170707912
>tfw out of molotovs

uh ohh
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>>170708058
I really just can't make myself care about chalices. I don't know why. Does it ever change from
>Find lever
>Pull lever
>Open door
>Fight boss
>Next floor
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>>170705980
I feel like they could have maybe played around with insight a bit more like that.

I'd be interested in seeing maybe if you had enough insight for each area, it'd trigger a chime maiden and make up susceptible to invasions instead of having to use the bells to trigger the invasioning states.

Just an idea.
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>>170708138
It's all about the grind and farm. I found it's just best to play with people. Use your bell at the beginning and don't die. The ringing bell is constant, even after bosses and doesn't cost any extra insight until you stop it and ring again.

Other than that, it's just boring and tedious as fuck if you don't have the goal to farm a specific rune or gem.
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>>170708138
Well the whole game is just
>find shortcut
>find fog wall
>fight boss
>find next fog wall/shortcut
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>>170702213
Skill. Show off your impressive sanic skills to all the other autists around.

Or go full retard strength with your kirkhammer.
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>>170708353
The areas outside of the chalice dungeons feel more alive and interesting than some randomly generated catacombs.

Like I said, friends makes it more entertaining.
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>>170708425
>Or go full retard strength with your kirkhammer.

That's what I'm doing now.

HUNTER SMASH PUNY COSMOS
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>tfw just bet an invader that was lagging like mad

shit was intense man. fucking hate my shitty internet.
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>do FRC Ihyll
>Giant pig boss

Who wants to farm those juicy 7.7% stamina cost reduction gems?
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>>170699842
>tfw bet cleric beast try on my new playthrough so i couldn't summon gascoigne for some NPC co-op

maybe next time I might be shit enough to fail the first time again.
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>>170699842
>>170708861

I have literally never died to Cleric Beast and I took like 2 days to kill Gascoigne and died to Witch of Hemwick on my first try.

Nice to know you can summon Gascoigne for him I guess.

Are you guys who are dying to him doing a BL4 runthrough?
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>>170709301
Cleric is just the first boss you meet so people who aren't familiar with the game are going to fuck up at least once or twice, till they get some echos into their character or learn the game's mechanics. It took me ages to realise and learn how to 'parry'.

This cunt however took me days to do.

That'll teach me for playing ToH for the first time on NG+
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>>170709487
Orphan took me a week of trying on and off. Also Chalice Rom keeps fucking me up it's almost unbelievable.
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>>170709301
>>170709487
I'm not dying to him at all, I thought I'd summon Gascoigne to fuck shit up along the way. There's two madmans knowledge that are easy to grab on the natural path through Central Yharnam.
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>>170707912
You can use the music box 1-2 times perfectly safely in his human form, and then it works ONCE in Beast mode.

Although fighting Gascoigne is really tense, especially if you don't know about the music box. The first time I beat him I was trembling harder than after nutting inside a girl the first time.
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>farming madmen
Is that how you join them?
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>>170709601
Cheese Chalice Rom by waiting out his meteor showers behind the pillar, slowly killing the spiders and then going for the piece of shit once he's all alone. Don't let the short teleport distances tempt you into keeping up your assault. Slow and steady and you'll win.
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>>170710568
The problem is that unlike story Rom, Chalice Rom spiders often don't want to play ball and stay near the big shit. I guess I'll try to go slow next time. I killed Chalice Rom first try on my main character so getting stuck to him is a shock.
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Finishing the invasion with a full beasthood gauge feels so incredibly good.
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What is a fun chalice dungeon build?
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>>170711212
>chalice dungeon build
>fun
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>>170711212
No such thing, they're atrocious and as soon as you know all the room layouts it gets even more tedious.
Though it should be mentioned that most Watchers are weak to Arcane, most Beasts in Loran are weak to Fire and most kin in Isz are weak to Bolt, so a high Arc stat is generally useful to deal lots of damage quickly
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>>170711212
arcane is the most versatile with fire/bolt/arc type damage. bloodtinge is the best at killing bosses. viscerals with a skill build makes it much safer to kill a lot of enemies. The only class specific bonus to strength is high rally and that doesn't matter when FRC shit will one or two shot you. take your pick I suppose.
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>>170711618
chalice only gets boring if you only ever SRRC and help people do lower loran for the millionth time. hitting up new root dungeons can still be fun and is always a challenge.
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>>170711438
>>170711618
>>170711691
Never played a chalice dungeon and my current build sucks. What stats for an arcane build and what weapon/magic?
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Just finished bloodborne blind, was great. Got the Honoring Wishes ending.

Looking to start an arcane build on my new char. I saw the guide and roughly know where to get gems and stuff, but what weapons do you recommend for arcane? Should I just get enough STR and DEX to be able to handle most weapons?

Shooting for SL100. Should I level up endurance at all?
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>>170712184
at least 50 ARC, 17ish END or at least no more than 20, no more than 50 VIT, whatever other stats you want to use whatever weapons you want but try to keep yourself around bl110 or so. I think it's cruel fate starting class, whatever is the good arc one it should be obvious.

you can keep pumping ARC since tools scale well past the hardcap of 50, but tools are plenty fine at 50 ARC and I would rather spend levels on having a bigger variety of weapons to use, even if it doesn't improve damage.
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>>170712275
Forget everything.
Acquire parasite.
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>>170712638
i'm guessing this applies to >>170712275
as well.

on a related note does anyone have a Bloodtinge/arcane build and if so how does that work?
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Is 50/17/50/9/5/15 a good strength build for chalice?
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>>170712275
I think you want SOME points in skill and strength but just enough to boost your raw damage, thats never bad.
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>>170713396
i'm thinking 50/20/16/16/5/50 or something close
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>>170664943
You need eyes on the inside of it's anus .
Now you also know why they're called Camerabeasts.
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>>170713396
your physical stats mean nothing with arcswince aside from early game when you are setting up you'll only ever have pure arc weapons. strength adn skill are just used to be able to equip what you want. if you end up using moonlight sword or tonitrus with nourishing that has a build of it's own to maximise efficency. a pure arc build uses pure physical weapons converted to fire/bolt/arcane with gems, or the parasite. split damage weapons usually can't be converted as easily.

IO mean it's chalice, not pvp so having min/maxed stats doesn't matter as much but still.
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>>170680643
>how do I get red jelly? I need 2.
Be this guy
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>>170714215
epic troll bro
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>>170714215
ouch
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>>170713947
I thought Clericbeasts were camera beasts. Because as the first boss he'd teach new players that playing with fixed camera isn't always good. And also both start with C.
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I swear to god this statues are getting more bizarre as I progress on the game, even the ones back before I swear were less creepy.

Also fucking baby noises what the fuck is happening
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>>170714829
You're in the know, right?
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>>170714635
>figure this out
>meet Laurence
>its just a cleric beast but on fire
>turn off camera lock and hit his legs, easy
>lose his legs, floor is lava
>holy shit he's hard
>there's a sweet spot to his left if you LOCK ON and keep circling when he's stomping the ground with his hands

fucking Fromsoft, I swear. I still can't figure out how to dodge his 720 degree hand swipe when he's on 2nd stage. Fuck Laurence, seriously.
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>>170714894
No I'm playing practicable blind. I only know that there are some spider bosses up ahead and a giant monster dragon from the moon that jumps because I saw a webm.

Also Ludwig. I know of Ludwig.
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>>170714829
your night is still young
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>>170714829
>Also fucking baby noises what the fuck is happening
You're getting cleansed from your beastly idiocy.
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So if i'm a str build and want to use any would-be-good-with-other-build like skill, you need to use some str scaling gem to the weapon to feel my str stat?
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>>170714635
It's up to your personal interpretation what is a camerabeast. Personally I call Bloodletting Beast a Camerafucking beast because the same kind of annoying shit happens in the BSB fight as with a Darkbeast.

>>170714829
You haven't seen anything yet.
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How do I know if the person who just invaded me was a NPC

I guess it was NPC because I didn't die in seconds
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>>170715701
There's only one NPC invader in the game, at the end of the DLC.
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>>170715939
Nice. Is there any equivalent to fingers so I can get invaded more often?
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>>170716079
Sadly, no. I wish there was, if it would let you summon another person. Then the game would finally be cosmic horror monster hunter during boss fights.
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>>170716183
Being invaded is my favorite part of these games, It's shame I only got invaded once in my whole playthrough so far.
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>>170716264
Try hanging around margo's loft middle after micolash the memeboss area, i'm fucking keep being invade to the point i cant even process without restocking my vial;
>Be invaded
>Set area as local
>Enmy using cane and henrky set
>clearly he going to make an arcane build
>he is underlevel asfuck with me and keep me argo the area enemies
>barely hit me
>the enemies suddenly gang up on me at once while i'm focusing at him
>dead and he doing the hunter bow
never felt rage so much with weak people that keep running around
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>>170716781
Right now I'm getting my ass destroyed by Ron the one shotting spider, don't know how far that is from where I am
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>>170717183
Bosswise? 1 one boss until the memeboss
Timewise? 8hour if u good since ur next area is a pain in the ass.
Tip for the next area? find the ringing bell sound came from
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>>170717183
>Ron the oneshotting spider
Just how much VIT you have exactly?
And in the first phase kill all the spiders before attacking Rom. Then in the second phase keep kiting him and killing the spiders around him, then go in to do damage.
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>>170717454
>kite around

all or nothing hunters are forged in the serum of lesser beings take your shot and punch out the damage before the spiderlings react praise kos
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>>170717454
I have twenty. If he catches me with one of the flying ice things, the others jump combo me to death.
I figured that much, just killed him. He isn't hard, but I hate fighting bosses designed like this.

>>170717306
Hope so, I'm enjoying the game don't want it to end
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>>170717684
there are several optional bosses you may have missed, also no doubt you missed a lot fothe secret areas, as well as a ton of chalice content if you haven't been there already. but don't worry too much about that until NG+ or you next character.
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>>170717824
That's very nice, knowing that there are a lot of optional areas. This game is really good, I think I'm liking it more than Dark Souls.

Also I'm gonna swap back to the Kirkhammer, the charged R2 of the stake driver is feeling way too cheesy, last 3 bosses were ridiculously easy because of it.
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hey so i finally purchased the old hunters but apparently didnt need to DL it? i just started NG+2 so i cant access it yet, should i be able to?
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>>170701449
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>want to make a blodletter build
>remember I'll have to farm gems in the fucking chalice dungeons, again
>lose all interest and motivation

Why does it have to be like this
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>>170719873
I'd imagine that having such a weak will makes life quite difficult for you anon.
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>>170716079
There kind of is, actually. You can set a password to complete gibberish and ring the beckoning bell. That essentially functions like a dried finger in this game.
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>>170719769
Do you have the eye of the blood-drunk hunter?
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>>170720543
I don't understand how people can play character creation games with stupid faces like this. Tried it once and it bothered me so much I restarted 3 minutes in
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>>170720665
I can understand if it follows a certain theme, like there was a large messanger anon here with a distorted blue vagina face, and it looked kinda similar, but I can't get behind the idea of playing a randomized abomination with funky hair.
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If I died at Amygdala holy shit this would be a long painful run back, did her first try but just barely. Thank you kirkhammer and your amzing high vertical attacks.
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>doing mid-level invasions with Reiterpallasch +7
>I deal 80 dmg per hit
Reminds me of when I upgraded the Velka's Rapier in Dark Souls for the first time
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>>170721503
There's a huge shortcut from the lantern to Amygdala's area though
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>>170721590
I don't know If I'm retarded or something but the whole area was so confuse to me
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>>170721687
I can't remember too well but when you leave the Amygdala arena stick to the left and you should be able to find a lift that takes you back near to where the lamp is
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>>170721687
it's FromSoft dude, there's always an elevator or shortcut back to the first lamp
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>>170721505
I felt the same when I was around the same damage with my amy arm.
Upgrade your weapon of choice to +9-10, get some 20% gems and pop a beast pellet, should improve things dramatically.
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>>170722086
I'm sure it gets a lot better when properly upgraded (like most fast skill weapons) but I wanted to keep this character below bl.50.
Guess I'll just finish the game and turn this character into a pvp build.
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how viable is a skill/arcane build
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>>170723316
Skill/arcane is just a normal skill build but with tools, so very viable
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>>170717306
holy shit you were right
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>>170721687
At the end of the level, right before the boss, you can turn around and see a cliffside that you can climb to activate an elevator.
The level itself is a little confusing since there's two main pathways: going directly through the swamp and taking the cave beneath the level itself. It gets weird when you realize the secondary path just dumps you out at the poison swamp anyways (the point of this is that it allows you to completely circumvent the poison and the movement penalty of the swamp).
Once you realize this, though, the level itself is relatively straightforward, with a few small branching paths here and there.
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>>170724539
After going through it again to see what dropped chunks, it's really simple, just the ground layout that is confusing.

Shame that it seves nothing, it seems. Killed amygdala and nothing happened
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Just started the DLC. Going in as blind as I can be (I know about Ludwig but that's about it). Christ, that shortcut took a while to get to. Went the wrong way and wound up in a cave with a dick with a minigun and a blood-starved beast. That trek was crazy. Glad I didn't die.
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holy fucking christ, I never even struggle with Chalice BSB and yet the basic BSB is trolling the fuck out of me. And now im god damn out fucking Fire Papers and Antidotes. Holy fuck i wish I had never decided to do this event. I have never yelled that loud in my entire fucking life
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>>170725438
>dick with a minigun
He drops it if you kill him, do it if you have high strength or want to collect the weapon trophy
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Excuse me, sir's, where I can find here Dark Souls General?
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>>170725514
Just lock on and walk to the left
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>>170719769
beat amelia first
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>>170725560
Yeah I killed him. Prefer the cannon to be honest. Rolling with the Formless Oedon rune to pop off two shots and bone marrow ash to put some stank on it. Aside from that I've just been smashing everything with the kirkhammer. Curious about the boom hammer though so I upgraded it and slotted some gems into it. Gonna give it a shot.
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>>170719873
The gem grinding isn't that bad at all, it's literally just like farming in Diablo2 or PoE, run the same shit over and over till you get what you want.
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>>170725581
Turn back and may the good blood guide your way
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>>170725514
B-Cocktail + Pellets + Paper + Alfred + Molotovs + Upgraded Saw weapon + Gascoigne's garb

If you are having trouble.
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>>170725195
>Killed amygdala and nothing happened
The goal was the Loran Chalice that Amygdala drops, that's what you get out of the level (along with a gimmick hunter's tool and upgrage materials). But yes, it's disappointing that it's just a dead end.
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>>170720418
>>170725749

my issue is that i wasnt asked to download anything after purchasing the DLC, did i already have it dl'd ?
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>>170616984
Starting a new game and I need to try a new weapon properly to keep things fresh. I haven't really used the stake driver or tonitrus. Are they absolute memes?

I don't play online and I've never done NG+ before. If I decided to do NG+ can I do it again with a dlc weapon for example? is NG+ even easier? that's what's always put me off if anything.
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What is a fun weapon for a ng+ run with 40/40 stats? No Holyblade.
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>>170726213
Yeh, you bascially downloaded everything with the patches.
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>>170726213
Yes. The DLC was added in full via patch. Purchasing it just gives you access to the content that you already have.
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>>170726307
Why 40/40? The caps are different in BB. 50/50 if you want the maximum worthwhile investment.
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https://youtu.be/_K_06Kzy4nk
Quality PvP™
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>>170726450
I just played through the game my first time without knowing shit.
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What's the best way to farm blood vials If I just wasted all of mine in a boss?
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>>170726346
>>170726356

thanks, lads. i figured as much.
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>>170726737
depends where you are. if you're early game you should just kill brick trolls, but if you have access to the lecture hall with slime duders you should farm that
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>>170726213
sorry m8, never buy digital, mine is physical one plus dlc, try checking the hontah dream wether there is a massanger or not beside the doll
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>>170726737
Depends where you are in the game.

If you're really early on, run through Central Yharnam all the way to the Great Bridge, you'll get normal drops from some guys, werewolves on the bridge usually drop 3 vials each, plus from all the echoes you get, you can return to the dream and by more.

If later in the game, farm the Lecture Hall or Ailing Loran layer 1 for ez echoes and buy in bulk from the shop.
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>>170727146
The lecture hall? Last time I went there only slug guys that dropped quicksilver. Must have missed a part of it
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>>170715095
bump
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>>170727272
They do only drop bullets, but you can farm a lot of echoes from them very easily. Just use those echoes to buy more vials. Echoes are functionally infinite, you can always get them back.
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What is a better alternative to "A Hero Lives", /bbg/?
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>the one reborn

well that was underwhelming for such an intimidating area
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>>170727918
right? fucker area is more harder than the boss itself,
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>>170727629
An Hero Lives
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>>170725669

i already know to do that. i know now today that I cannot play this game when i am not completely shitfaced. When Im drunk I get into a zone and a rhythm, and when im sober I end up screamimg so much my throat bleeds. I cannot bear and tolerate this game right now. I have NEVER had this much trouble with BSB. I want to put a knife into the side of my neck.
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>>170728241
Yeah, the 3 man ganksquad took me way more tries

Also I feel sorry for sackman city, glad I was able to see it before it went to shit. Next playthrough I want to go there before old yharm and enter from the other side.
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>>170706954
People did speed runs without ever leveling ADP. Dodging just took more skill in DS2. DS3 is absolute babby tier where you dont even need to time and can just mash roll endlessly. BTW not implying ADP was a good decision.
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>>170728380
Off to the nightmares u go then m8, tips for the next area? skip the skeleton and most of the early area until u open the mansion gate and beware of the beast
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>Play Nioh for a bit after it comes out
>come back to BB for the reddit event
>constant fuckups from inputs like a retard

Oh I hate this. Muscle memory is hell.
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>>170709487
>Someone saved my pic from more than a year ago

Shit, I think I threw that paper out. Thanks, re saving.
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>>170728726
Thanks m8. Also why is Patches talking to me like he tricked me at some point
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>>170728252
It's not a big deal
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>Ihyll Descendant
Jesus fucking christ. Any advice on how to deal with this guy's second phase? I've got the first half down no problem, but shit goes out the window after that.
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>>170729146
that all he can do actually, trying to trick you
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>>170729458
He is unironically one of the hardest bosses in the game, he's fucking insane.

If you can use the Empty Phantasm Shell, use it, he's super weak to Arcane.
Parry him as much as you can, if not to visceral him, then to just back off and heal or get a free charged hit in.
Summon help
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>>170729518
so he's tricking me that he tricked me
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>>170729458
Were you the dude who summoned for him right now and got 1 shot?
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>>170728726
what the fuck is frenzying me
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>>170729810
kek, no actually latter he will function like a merchant if im not wrong
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>>170729970
i think its the brain of nemesis, anyway, run away to the left and ignore the enemies, the silver beast is pain in the ass, it recomended to kill him with viscreal attack to avoid him summoning a snake from his corpse, beware the falling rock.

try using blue elixir
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>>170729646
Alright, sounds like it's time to learn some parry timings. Wish me luck.
>>170729853
No, I've been at it solo for a while now.
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FINALLY beat BSB

Im level 28 right now. Will I get fucked in the ass if I try taking on Henryk?
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>>170730231
I run and only meet worse fate, fucking spiders ganksquad and an asshole oneshotting with tentacles out of his face
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What is the best gem setup for the boom hammer and Amy arm on 50Str/ 25 Skl/ 6 Arc ? All tempering, nourishing or heavy?
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>>170730691
the irony is behind that guy is the lamp, anyway just beat the smaller spider in front of the balcony near the guy, just dont agro him, use the narrow area for R2 skill, ludiwig r2 will sure kill the smaller one
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>>170730509
Just let Eileen do most of the work and try to get visceral backstabs.
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>>170730889
Full heavy for both
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>>170682835
I know I'm a day late but that was clearly irony.
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Which one of you faggots is Dark Magician girl?
A faggot with a name like that has to be someone from here.
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>>170731560
that's from yu-gi-oh
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>>170730691
Stick on the run that reduces frenzy by 200, one of the lake runes I think it is. Then equip hunter gear and Henryk's hat for max frenzy resist. Clear out the werewolf things and the boulder chuckers. Once inside, run past the spiders, the hunter, and the little iron dudes. Keep to the right and, head down one flight of stairs (I think) and there will be a lift that goes down to a second lamp that allows you to bypass all that frenzy shit and the spiders.
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>>170732295
Stick on the rune*
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why can't I tell Arianna of Oedon Chapel
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Let me warn you kids-- doing a run with only 8 END sucks
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>>170730898
Well I just maned up and killed the spiders, then parried the guy to death. Feels a bit bad to cheese him like that, but at least I found the elevator.
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>>170732583
>implying leveling end is a good idea at all
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>>170732514
Have you talked to the Chapel Dweller?
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>>170732989
yes, I already sent the old hag there
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>>170733102
Open all the gates.
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>>170733102
Have you inspected laurance's skull?
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>>170732583
Just use the runes my man
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>>170733102
The actual gameplay lock behind it is you need to progress the night. Open the central gate in the Cathedral Ward or kill the boss in Old Yharnam to progress enough to tell her.
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>>170733102
You need to kill at least 3 bosses in order to send Arianna and the old dude to the chapel.
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>struggle all day with BSB, who I have beaten by myself before
>finally beat it
>now getting assraped by Amelia, who I have beaten by myself before

I dont have the patience for this. I dont have to prove ANYTHING to ANYONE. Im probably underleveled as fuck too, at lvl 31. She has no weaknesses.
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>>170733519
>>170733659
oh, okay. I was about to fight Vicar, I'll go back after I kill her.
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>>170733930
Literally just stand behind her.
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>>170733930
Just go get some sleep.
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>>170733930
If you have a saw weapon, use it because she's a beast and weak to saws, and use your fire paper if you have any, if you don't go find Alfred off to the side where you pull the lever to open up Old Yharnam, he gives you three free fire papers.
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>>170733930
>she has no weaknesses
>what is fire
>what is serrated damage
>what is numbing mist
>what is attacking her hind legs
>what is attacking her arms
>what is attacking her head
>what is attacking her in any way whatsoever

>this is the mindset of hunters in 2017
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>>170733930

stand behind the back right leg and go in with some fire paper, if dodge towards the same leg to avoid being heat, repeat ad nauseam
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>>170733930
I'm this anon >>170734050
so far NG+ has been kind of tame, none of the enemies have given me a real problem and the I killed Gascoigne on my first attempt when he killed me atleast 7 times in NG. I slayed Vicar Amelia on my first attempt in NG, let's hope I can keep the trend going.
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>>170733930
Hitting her till she drops is her weakness.
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if i've never beaten the DLC and start it in NG+2 it will be in NG+2 as well correct?
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>>170734960
Correct.
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>>170734960
Yep, good luck
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>>170734064
>>170734129
>>170734187
>>170734393
>>170734589
>>170734689
>>170734759
Really?
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Anyone wanna help me with headless bloodletting beast in ihyll? Pass is bbg
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>>170735029
New players do indeed exist, anon
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>>170735136
On my way.
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>>170735319
Still ringing if your their. Layer 2
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U guys still do fcs?
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>>170735545
Bear with me, friend. SRRC.
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>>170728885
Hows pvp for nioh?
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>>170735564
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>>170735284
They do but, that they'd think Amelia had no weaknesses after completing the game once.
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So I got a really good 31.5BLT gem but with Durability DWN as a cursed mod, if I'm just using it for my firearm is durability down that bad(for PvPvE?)

I'm mainly trying to use it for my BMA Repeater Pistol during invasions.
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NEW THREAD:
>>170736112
>>170736112
>>170736112
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>>170736073
DuraDOWN on guns does nothing. It's a great gem, well done.
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>>170735597
Thanks broski, that was definately worth the wait.
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>>170728241
I feel like that's the case with most bosses. Nightmare of Mensis is, well, a nightmare to go through, but both of its bosses are pretty easy by comparison. Celestial Emissary is a joke compared to the Upper Cathedral Ward (though Ebrietas more than makes up for that) and both Central Yharnam bosses are hilariously easy compared to the actual area. The only areas where I found the boss harder than the area itself were BSB in Old Yharnam, Logarius in Cainhurst and fucking Orphan of Kos in Hamlet.

>>170728380
You do know that by letting the Sackmen kill you early on you can open a door that lets you avoid the gank squad entirely, right?
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>>170732514
Advance the story a bit. I don't remember if you have to beat Amelia or if you just have to beat a certain number of bosses, but it's one of those. Just make sure you get her before fighting Rom.
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Do you like Hidetaka Miyazaki and From software? Their early stuff was a little too generic for me, but when Bloodborne came out in 2015! . . . I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. Miyazaki's undisputed masterpiece is an are called 'Hemwick Charnel Lane,' an are so unessential that most people don't play it. . . But they should, because it's not just about the the spooky witch vibe and the importance of runes, but it is also a small microcosm of the game itself!
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I deal 280 dmg per amygdala hit against vica ng+ should I switch weapon or is this normal
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34/38 str/skill btw
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>>170736884
>Hey hunter!
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>>170740445
Try getting a reservatio at Cainhurst Castle you stupid bastard!
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