/lite/ - RogueLITE General

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I fucking love this little faggot.

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>When your run was going really well and then the game throws Crutch, Remote Bullets and Helix Bullets at you within 3 rooms in chamber 5 from a chest, the Ogre dude and the Shop respectively

Now my fat explosive bullets including the ones that fire from my boots and the triple shot from table tech sight go exactly where they need to be. Just perfected the Dragun easily. Time for hell.

should we just move to indie or rlg? the threads are dying too quickly now

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I wish

that I could turn back time

>>170149380
GAY

>>170152373
let's go to rlg

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>>170152373
>>170157586
like /rlg/ is any better than here

>>170157965
That's the point dumdum, two ded threads joining posterbases means they both last longer.
The main problem is how averse /rlg/ has always been to us, so it'll take some convincing

>>170158034
And what I mean is that it won't make as much of a difference as you think it will.
death + death = slightly less painful death

>>170158149
Well, ask /rlg/ first, wait until they inevitably REEEE the idea away then go to /indie/ I guess.

...is this going to be one of the last /lite/s ever posted?

>>170158149
Youd think but with all the ROGUELITES AREN'T ROGUELIKE posting perhaps it would be kept alive as an engine of pure hatred.

>>170158273
>...is this going to be one of the last /lite/s ever posted?
It died before it'll die again, it got revived before so nothing is certain.

>>170158345
Shiny and chrome etc.

Man, this really is the end, huh? /rlg/ doesn't seem too fond in their response so far.

Also, does /lite/ have a discord?
I-I could make one for like the 7 people here if not...

>>170161802
I'd say /indie/ is the best bet, Discords turn into circlejerks usually.
Also I'm one of the few regulars here and I never open my Discord

>>170161962
>Discord turns into circlejerks usually.
I'm actually okay with this
Has anyone posted in the /indie/ thread yet?
Really? I come here pretty often and I leave discord open basically all the time.

>>170162151
>being okay with the thread becoming a circlejekr
don't post ever again thank you

>>170162275

>Implying that's not always what it's been

bitch I'll post if I want. just kidding, you're a wonderful person I lub u lessthanthree

Ok it's indie then, they don't seem to mind

>>170162371
nice

ded

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>>170150024
>When game throws Casey and Helix Bullets at you (which does work on Casey and almost doubles its damage)
Also, I beat my first Past yesterday.

>>170173919

Still waiting on Casey + Flak Bullets to grace me in a run. Hell, even Alien Engine + Flak would be amazing. I like casey, but it's kinda bad without synergies once you start to pick up shit like Com4nd0 or Megabuster and you're playing harder floors. I'd like to see how it works with something like Oiled Cylinder + Lichy to make it a bit faster on the swing and reload.

>>170175027
Interesting idea.
Also, fun fact.
>I delivered THREE Bullet Parts and a TV in that run

>>170175027
You could just Cheat Engine it to try it out. Cause the odds aren't high unless you can get Sixth Chamber on Floor 1 and use the Hero Shrine.

>>170175281
>cheat engine
why bother when there's mod the gungeon

>>170175430
What.

>>170176336
https://modthegungeon.eu/

>>170175156
When a run pops off, it pops off, man. I had a similar experience way back when I was actually working on my elevators. Played lock pick only pilot, saved all my shells for elevator short cut, ended up killing past and delivering bullet parts in the same run.

>>170175281
>Unless you can get the 6th chamber on floor 1 and use the hero shrine
que? I mean, I know it's 22 coolness, but it's REALLY not worth dealing with lord of the jammed for the entire run (unless you luck into cleansed on the dice shrine). Cigs and Chest Friendship is probably a way easier path. I also really don't think it'll be that uncommon of a combination to get. Casey is D tier, Flak is C. Casey is in Cursula's pool and Flak is in Trorc's.

I'm not really too keen on the idea of just using cheat engine to test it, I know what it does, I just want to see it show up in a run. There's a certain magic to it when you get combos like that for the first time on a real run, and for me it would be lost if I were to test it with CE.

Shit.

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>>170152891
I only have a couple of days to go and got marathon yesterday, I really hope I don't fuck it up

How the fuck do I kill a past after unlocking bullet hell? Man, fuck that floor.

>>170179721
Just kinda... I dunno, uh, walk around that pit?

>>170179721

>kill a past after unlocking bullet hell
You...you didn't intentionally go to bullet hell when you were going for a past kill...right?

>>170179935
>>170180262
I tried avoiding the hand but it grabed me anyway. Do I also need to get gud at dodging it or something?

>>170180402
There's a lot of space around it, where it won't grab you.

>>170180402

You literally just walk around the giant portal on the floor. It's not rocket science.

>finally get an amazing Isaac run
>thread dies
Typical, and I just realized most won't get the items I did because I only have AB.

>>170180670

>Finally get an amazing Isaac run
>General dies

FTFY

>>170180515
>>170180639
Ok, I read the wikia and I think I got it: the first it grabs you is unavoidable right?

>>170180883

I don't think it's unavoidable, but I haven't been able to test it. If it IS avoidable, most people won't avoid it because the portal isn't there the first time.

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>It's The Key

>>170180763
Typical. Guess I need to decide whether or not I want to get Gungeon or AB+ while I wait for a Necrodancer update.

>>170183598
>a Necrodancer update
It's over, anon. The devs have abandoned us.

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>>170183598

>Guess I need to decide whether or not I want to get Gungeon or AB+

Like hell you do, give me your steam name. I'll meet you halfway.

>>170187192
hoaryu

>>170183838
They couldn't have gone the way of the NT crew already.

so are NT weeklies specifically made or are they random too

i had a lot of fun with that melting weekly but the others have been kind of bad

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my favorite part of isaac is having brimstone+mom's knife and 10+ damage and still taking five minutes to kill hush

>>170194008
Thank retarded boss armor in an attempt to balance things or whatever.

>>170194397
I would rather replay Space Hulk: Deathwing then fight hush.

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>first trip into the Oubliette
>realized too late some shotgunners aim where I'm going and not where I am
Oh ok, I didn't realize how early I had to git gud.

>>170194902
Is Deathwing bad or something? I somehow already killed that as the lost, but hush is pretty unfun with how spongey it is and how long it stays inactive.

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>>170195423
Deathwing is not even half a game if you ask me.
Its campaign is long and boring with AI comparable to crysis.
Oh and the multiplayer is the same but without the 2 bots that follow you and if i remember correctly you are stuck as the class you picked unlike the solo campaign where you can use anything.

>>170196080
Fucking spent 20h on the campaign.
I WANT MY FUCKING REFUND

>>170196080
Goddamn. I don't think I could suffer Deathwing man, at least with Hush I can sometimes idle and let meatboy and some not shit familiars do the work.

>Not amazing but doing ok with eyes post loop
>Golden wrench, lightning cannon, arms, scary face, gamma guts
>Beat through 1-3, cops show up
>Die to the telekinesis guy using melee
live by the meme, die by the meme

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There's no way I can fuck this up

I know Eden was recently given the R key reset option, but can he be picked if you chose random?

I swear to god the item pools in some challenges are rigged. I've been trying to clear Pokey Mans all afternoon and I have not gotten a single damage up or tear-altering item in any of my runs.

On a side note, how do you get a successful Apollyon run started? Void doesn't seem that great, should I just ditch it at the first possible opportunity?

>>170200558
Void is amazing if you just succ up active items.

>>170200558
>Void doesn't seem that great

I don't like Antibirth for some reason and I don't know why
I just always feel claustrophobic. There's considerable more tears being fired at me but the rooms are so fucking cramped.

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>>170199858
>lose all that armor a few rooms in
>eat an easily dodgeable barrage on boss
>lose relic to an off screen enemy
I fucked it.

>>170201280
The mines especially are cramped, especially if you're being attacked by those moles right off the bat.

>>170201280
Don't you mean Afterbirth?
Since that, you know, adds tiny cramped claustrophobic rooms?

>>170201459
Like I said there are more enemies that fire a lot more tears but doesn't give you any room to dodge them. Take for example those bloated guys that burst into treats. Their aoe attack is like half the standard room and there's all kind of shit on the floor like buckets and random holes

>>170199858
If you use the button can you skip the keys/crest?

I know other buttons start you on the next floor.

>>170202212
It just asks if I want to save and quit, but I'm somehow still alive in the mines.

>>170201883
Fuck those bucket ghosts. Little assholes ran off with a tinted rock after I waited forever for them to throw it at me.

>>170202661
>It just asks if I want to save and quit, but I'm somehow still alive in the mines.
Ah yeah but if you click accept at the one next to the boss rooms when you come back you'll be in the next chamber.

Like, say you beat Ammoconda and then take the talking Button avenue to the freeze chamber, when you click continue after logging in again, you'll be in the mines in the first room.

So I've wondered if you could use it to cheese through the gates. There are runs where I could really use 2 extra keys... Gotta try it out.

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Not even the meatgun could save me.

>>170203216
Oh shit, I'll have to remember that next time.

>>170202661
>bucket ghosts
they're annoying but by far the most annoying thing in downpour are those fire flies that surround you

So, did that Mimic ever get finished?

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>>170205432

>>170199858

>4 keys and a meat gun going into oub

I'm really sad you lost that run. I would've snowballed that run out of control desu. I've lost better runs than that though, so eh....

>>170203216

You can't. In order for it take effect, you have to actually go down into the next floor, just like how you have to go into the elevators for it take effect on the regular floors.

>>170206147
Thanks mate.

>/indie/ dies
>remake thread
>/lite/ on page 10 now

being in dead generals is suffering.

>This time, Indie died
Kek.

>>170209285
A vicious cycle

>>170209285
>>170209349
wew

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Does anyone know what's wrong with the weekly, whenever a new one starts I can't click on it for a while.

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>>170210904
>>170210938

/indie/ talkin shit about us too >>170210569

it's definitely some /rlg/ anon :^)

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Binding of Isaac has gone through, what? Four, five iterations/DLCs now?

And angel rooms are still fucking trash.

>spirit hearts
>spirit hearts
>some more spirit hearts
>holy water

>>170212057

This is why antibirth will forever be master race. The fucking Angel Rooms are actually worth something. You know, that and the hundreds of other reasons I could list.

>>170212057
Whoever thought angel rooms shouldn't have items whould be fired, and whoever changed devil rooms so they don't always have devil deals should also be fired.

>>170212829

>edmund
and
>edmund

The man has batshit dumb ideas of what "challenge" should be.

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>>170212829
>and whoever changed devil rooms so they don't always have devil deals should also be fired.
That's too light for a fuck up of this caliber. And on that note the babies you can get from them need to go. Who the FUCK wants to give up an hp or three for sister maggy?
>muh precedent
Oh right, egghead would.

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thats my firts rainbow chest

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Why don't you guys like Mei?

>>170216127
I haven't played her but the video I saw of her seemed really fun.

>time for a clean sweep with Krampus's head
>lolnoitspinsrandomlynow
Why the fuck do they think ruining items is a good idea?

>>170216127
Haven't played her.

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Is steak boy the only dev who's this obsessed with """balance""" in a single player game?

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>>170214284
oh shit, nice. Post the haul.

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>>170219078

>>170214284
I've beaten everything in the game and have nearly 170 hours and I still haven't gotten a rainbow chest. I also haven't gotten the transformation yet and I have only gotten the glitch chest once. They need to up the rates of these things by a little bit, they should be rare but not THAT rare.

>>170213371
>get devil room
>it's not a deal but 3 red chests
>2 have spiders or troll bombs and the last teleports you into the room you're already in
>when it's a deal it's familiars that honestly change next to nothing
And then of course he had the brilliant idea of letting it sometimes happen for treasure rooms too.

Just unlocked the bullet. How do you guys play with it? Keep the sword at all times or swap when better guns come along? I'm still finding a little difficult to attack with it without the rainbow shots. I also always hated the casey.

>>170219853
Stay at full red HP as much as you can and utulize that fact that the sword slash destroys projectiles. If you're at full red HP you literally don't need another weapon, unless you wanna clear the room faster or something. Honestly when playing as the bullet I use it for the entire time I have red HP unless I have a better gun for room clearing or boss fighting, which honestly aren't many since it can keep you alive longer.

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>>170220234
>Each piece of Junk grants The Robot a 5% damage increase.

This is so fucking good. I almost makes up for the heart increasing itens not giving it anything.

>>170219434

Glitch chests actually aren't all THAT rare, it's rainbow ones that are incredibly uncommon. I didn't find one until over 350+ hours into the game so buckle up. I could see rainbow chest rates being increases slightly, but they shouldn't be too close to glitch chest rates, maybe double it from what it is currently.

>>170219853
I use Blasphemy only when I have full hp, no other option, or need a defensive quick swap wep. Thing about it is, it's an amazing weapon, but only if you're at full hp, since it effectively gives it a range option, and doubles your damage up close - for this reason, armor can be a crucial thing for Bullet so you have a buffer for blasphemy beams. Blasphemy is nice, but it eventually does start to be pretty bad compared to some of the higher end (B+ tier) boss crushers or room clearers. For example, there's basically no reason to use Blasphemy outside of defensive purposes (which you can just make it your quick swap for) if you pick up something like The Heroine or Megahand. The best thing about the weapon though, is when your run starts to pop off, Blasphemy can become absolutely retarded. All the bullet augments and modifiers can work on the sword beams, and it has infinite ammo. If you getting things like fat bullets, scatter shot, bouncy bullets, remote bullets, accuracy ups, status bullets, etc. all will carry to the sword beams.

I don't care for casey too much myself, but I will admit it's a damn effective weapon. Even if you play like a bitch an don't get in melee range, you can still absolutely devastate enemies by hitting their bullets back at them

>>170220449
>>170219434
what the hell is a glitch chest? also, I have 50+ hours in the game and have seen the rainbow chest three times, what's up with that? is it really that uncommon?

>>170219434
AB+ has a chance of having nothing in treasure rooms now? I've seen the greed mode chaser things in a few vids but I haven't seen it be empty yet. Isaac has too many fuck you's as it is.

>>170220628

>50+ hours in the game and have seen the rainbow chest three times
>Rainbow chests have a 0.0333% chance to replace a regular chest. Chests found upon clearing a room have a 0.001% chance to become a rainbow chest in addition to the normal 0.0333% chance

STOP STEALING ALL THE GOOD LUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT.

Glitch chests are blue chests that have a glitchy graphic animation on them, can only spawn on the first 3 floors, and upon being opened they Teleport you to 2nd floor with only a boss room, where you then get to fight this lovely room in pic related. It pays out with like 8 items and shit loads of consumables like ammo, armor, hp, and keys.

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>>170221196

forgot pic

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>>170221352
Nope.

>>170221352
>fighting two of these fuckers with the starting gun

rip

>>170220436
Wait, that wasn't supposed to be a quote. I was just talking about how this cool thing about the robot. Never saw that mentioned before.

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>install AB+
>Judas daily
>first room on second floor is tiny and has three mega troll bombs flying at you
>door locked because shitty spiders behind said bomb
If I didn't have hierophant that would've been the shortest and saltiest run ever. Heads up to whoever is late doing it.

Is there any way at all to get around the necrodancer replay bug? I've never had a single replay properly work.

I was using a recording thing but it stopped when I tabbed out for a second so I was trying to get to the end of the run but it killed me (twice, since I had potion) the level before the recording cut out.

>>170221352
>twinned beholster
i'm out

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>>170226254
>>170222850
>>170228409

but think about all that phat loot if you win.

>>170229256
>no passives
Damnit.

>>170229256
>>170229505
>Two of the same gun

>>170230060

>equip both judges
>swap each time one empties it's clip
>never have to reload

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To the anon that critiqued the Bandit character, how does this sound for the Blaster?

> Fast fire rate when clicking
> Slow fire rate when holding down the fire key
> Improve Laser Brain's effect
> Work on Shotgun Shoulders' logic a bit
> Make Boiling Veins destroy a few more tiles on top of the fire trail and increased bash speed

Pic unrelated

Mostly unrelated but I think boiling veins should stop all damage from your explosions, and only go to the 4 hp threshold for enemy ones.

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Holy fuck this run just won't stop.

I was planning on doing the past so I played Bullet but now I might just go to Hell.

First Floor went alright, no keys dropped but one was sold in the shop. Last room I visit has the Lock in it, selling A-Key 47, A Ballot and a Ring of Mimic Friendship. The A-Key 47 was 3 keys, I only had 2. The only weapon I had picked up was the C4mmando, 40 ammo rocket launcher. I started my quest to find the secret room in hope. 19 ammo later, the crack appeared. I blanked. An unlocked brown chest... and a key. The brown chest also contained a key. I took the A-Key 47 and the Ballot, and continued on to the Oubliette, using the A-Key 47 to unlock it. There I get a Red Chest with Gun Soul, I get a grappling hook, not much else of note.

Next floor I get the Crutch. I easily beat down the Ammoconda with my sword, who usually actually gives me a bit of bother.

The Shop is selling the Enraging Photo, and the Blankman is in the corner selling the Full Metal Jacket, Frost Ammolet and Relodestone. I buy the Photo, the Full Metal Jacket, and the Relodestone.

I'm at the end of floor 2 and I have one of the best setups I could hope for. Unlimited Keys, the Crutch, the Relodestone as an Active, the Full Metal Jacket massively increasing my chance of the remaining master rounds, and I'm a bullet that fires a bullet which fires guns which fire bullets. All because I was autistic enough to search for that secret room.

>>170231989
Oh yeah I didn't "buy" the Relodestone, as much as I traded it for my grappling hook.

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>when you hit the blank button the instant after you get hit by a bullet

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>>170231989
Wew

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>>170232407
WEW

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>>170232362
>when you roll immediately after getting hit
>when you have no idea what the fuck hit you
>Ammoconda
I just don't know anymore man. The fucker just keeps going and doesn't stop.

>>170232583
I can't wait to unlock that, I think

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>>170231362
> 100+ posts in
> Haven't dropped the NTT copypasta
I'm slacking

Nuclear Throne Together Modding Update is live
> https://yellowafterlife.itch.io/nuclear-throne-together

Mod Directory:
> https://bitbucket.org/YellowAfterlife/nuclearthronetogether/wiki/Mods/Mod%20list
Save mods in Nuclear Throne directory or appdata/local/nuclearthrone


A few mods made by myself (via last thread):
> http://pastebin.com/mxgjmqs2
Anthro Van. Save as race.gml
> http://pastebin.com/d3s7Ghr6
Bandit character. Has only the Bandit Blaster, but weapon mutations augment its bullets. Also has a Lil' Bash like Big Bandit's bash attack.
> http://pastebin.com/YiL7jMXa
Three gators on a fire salamander, known as Fire Riders. Mostly a silly mod, you play as the salamander while the gators shoot things at you. Cannot pick up weapons, but you do have a flamethrower and flame cannon attack.


> http://pastebin.com/CbY2hEBJ
Cursed Hyper Crystal. Makes HC teleport like a cursed crystal, but with a telegraph.
> http://pastebin.com/tPKuMiLJ
Hostile Rogue. Spawns an enemy-variant version of Rogue in 5-3. Doesn't suck like the Rogue Mook in Chaos Mod.


> http://pastebin.com/5vbZ5QqK
Cheat mod. Didn't make this one, but was posted in last thread (made by 9joao6). Allows you to use chat functions to cheat.

http://pastebin.com/cVLj0GpA
Infinite Continue mod. For sucky players.

> http://pastebin.com/LFUJYHPL
Crown of Popo (CoP)/Gunfurunfu
Starts you out as Rogue with a double cursed Rogue Rifle where IDPD are constantly spawning. Comes with a beatboxing crown.
Presets:
/preset easy
/preset normal
/preset hard
/preset saniblues
/preset reallydad

To load a mod:
> save modfiles into Nuclear Throne steam directory or appdata/local/nuclearthrone. Saving them as (.mod/.race/etc).gml based on the type of mod they are is important, as they act as identifiers for the mod type.
> .txt works as of the current update, as well
> enter /loadmod <mod>.<type>.gml in chat to load the mod
> play the mod

>>170231989

>but now I might just go to Hell

there are some runs that are straight up wasteful to past kill on. I actually had a VERY similar experience when I was first going for Bullet's past kill. I had a maxed out Junkan early in the abbey and the run was already pretty damn strong not counting that. Decided to go for a lich kill, did not regret it. Getting through Dragun isn't that difficult, so I didn't mind passing it up.
>Buying enraging photo
Bad decision, imo. Not worth it.
>All because I was autistic enough to search for that secret room
There are some instances where it's incredibly crucial to do that, usually on floor 1 because typically you're hurting for keys and secret rooms can have them. It can pay dividends if you're on floor 1 with only two keys and a green/red/black chest on the floor, and It's really what separates a good player from a great player.

>>170233287
Crunch it into a single pastebin already.

>>170233649
>>170233287
yea, not really necessary to have it all posted

>>170232672
>Ammoconda
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING
WHERE ARE THESE BULLETS COMING FROM
OH GOD NO NOT THIS WAY WHY DID YOU GO THIS WAY
WHY DID THOSE BULLETS CHANGE DIRECTION
seriously goddamn gorgun is infinitely easier

>>170233310
This has gone beyond a joke. Polaris, Metronome Relodestone for ammo, then Blanks and Full Metal Jacket to keep the good vibes going. Strongly tempted to just sell most of my guns to the Sell Creep on this floor.

>>170233310
but how the hell do you search for secret rooms? there's no easy tells like with isaac's and you sure as shit can't get a necrodancer torch or map

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>>170234270
Finally the bullet modifiers are starting!

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>>170234539
Easiest run I've ever had by far.

Full Metal Jacket synergies are retarded OP because they take so much risk out of the huge risk reward guns/items.

I can't beat the Marine's past. I don't get it am I just stupid or what? All the other pasts were piss easy but something about that last wave of bullets in his attack gets me every fucking time.

>>170235997

>Full Metal Jacket Synergies are retarded OP

You have no idea, m8. it works with Elder Blank, and it prioritizes it over your per floor blanks. Imagine combining that with high coolness and a second active item slot, throw in a few ammolets and it's straight up retarded.

>>170234332
There are a lot of ways. You can buy the floor map if it's available which will show the location if there are any, you can tediously wall check with any gun that has finite ammo, and you can utilize patterns that do exist, though they aren't quite as obvious as isaac. Generally they tend to spawn far away from the entrance of the floor, and they like to be connected to chest rooms and at the end of the floors near the elevator down. Another trick you can do, full clear your map, and mentally draw a rectangle around it (using the farthest rooms as the boarders). It's highly unlikely that the secret room will be anywhere outside of that rectangle, so then it's just a matter of prioritizing which possible locations are farthest from the entrance and check walls accordingly (you can eliminate a lot of potential spots it can be by simply using the space on the map that's available as an indicator). They can also be connected to shops, which is a bit trickier, as you can only check one wall safely and without consequence, so if there are two possible locations, you may have to just waste a blank in the shop unless you can check a wall from outside the shop. My favorite ones are the super obvious ones that are connected to shrines though. Shrines are a small square surrounded by gaps, so whenever there's a secret room connected to them, you'll see a bridge basically extending into a dead end wall, super fucking obvious.

>>170236608

>All the others were piss easy
>can't beat marine's past

u wot m8? He's got probably the easiest one, maybe tied with Convict. How do you think pilot's is easier than that? He's basically just bullet king 2.0 dude, not to mention if you stay back near your squad they actually will lend support fire.

>>170236956
I didn't know that his squad will help out, I'll try to take advantage of that. Just can't seem to get used to how to roll through the circular wave of bullets, unlike the bullet king he spits out more bullets after that and I keep rolling into them.

>>170236608
Stay off the creep he creates, it acts like poison.
Kill his friends when they summon in.
Circle around him and use your blanks if you think you can't dodge.

>>170237125

You mean the attack where he spits out his spinning wave of bullets, and then afterwards a ring that expands outward from him? The easiest way would be to put your back to a wall, step the spinning spray, and then time a roll into the wall and let the ring hit the wall during your iframes. Barring that you can actually dodge roll it if you time it correctly and space it properly. Barring THAT, you can step between the ring with good positioning.

>>170232672
>I can't wait to unlock that, I think
Don't think it's an unlock, I think it's the first passive item I ever got in this game, and the reason I remapped reload onto my mouse.

>>170237513
According to the wiki, it's not an unlockable.

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>haven't got a fun bullet modifier in like 10 runs

>two ammo drops in one room
>i'm not using the hunter

i thought you niggas said ammo drops only came from curse

>>170237892
I really want to get Unity and Cog of Battle along with some high damage Unity guns like Dueling Laser and AU gun to turn Klobbe into the mighty DPS machine it wants to be.

>>170237994

>only from curse
I don't know what idiot told you that. It does however, increase your chance of getting an ammo drop on room clear. Ammo drops and room clear rewards are also seperate from each other, which is how you got two drops (ammo drop proc'd and room clear drop proc'd and rolled ammo).

How are you supposed to get plant's b-skin?

Oasis skip I get but what weapon? I'm pretty sure golden machine gun is bad but I haven't bothered to get another one.

Would getting crown of curses be good?

What made the pilot shit again?

>>170239267
Is he? I assumed he was the best character since he can find the most shit.

>>170239267
Shitty starting gun and no initially useful passives. Lockpick is a double edged sword.

>>170239267
His start is abysmal. He may be an endgame character, but that doesn't excuse for a second how abhorrent he is in the beginning.

>Lower cost at shops doesn't mean shit when you have no money
>Lockpick fails and you're stuck with your abhorrent starting weapon
>Continues for three floors

>>170240279
>Lockpick is a double edged sword

only sometimes. You have to keep in mind that lock pick allows pilot to not only gamble for "free keys" with shit that matters, but also gives him the ability to take chances where other character simply can't or won't want to (D / C tier loot) for NO opportunity cost, AND you can gamble if you get cucked out of keys for other chests, where if you were somebody else, you'd be getting junk and moving on. Do you know how often I completely skip opening chests on floor 1? Like most of my runs pretty much. The combination of needing two keys for oubliette, and more than likely getting D and C tier chests means that lockpick is unbelievably useful, and not just on floor 1. Any time you're locked out of the shop or special NPC rooms with no keys or simply don't want to waste the ones you have when they're better spent on the chests of the floor, any time there's a key gate with a locked chest behind it, basically any and all instances of D and C rank chest showing up (C rank being somewhat of an exception for me if I'm ballin hard and have a lot of keys on hand) are all amazingly common scenarios that pilot thrives in. On top of that, he can (and most likely will after a certain point) abandon his pick later and run two actives, which is nuts, and two keys on floor one costing 42 instead of 50 has a bigger impact than you'd think. His shop discount passive basically equates to free money. He's really damn good, but the down side is that you need to be DAMN skilled to perfect a floor 1 boss with rogue special.

>Lower cost at shops doesn't mean shit when you have no money
>Lockpick fails and you're stuck with your abhorrent starting weapon
>somehow continues for 3 floor despite being guaranteed a gun drop if you haven't picked one up yet on the floor

wew.

>Junk actually increases Robot's damage

Shit, I did not know that. I'm gonna give you a second chance little buddy

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Wat

>>170242047

>He doesn't know about the god of death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6-LJuCKQU

>>170242047
>>170242132

or maybe you did and are confused about him being in the item pool, so I'll stop being a sarcastic bitch - you see, Junkan is actually C tier passive item after you "unlock" him. Before being unlocked, he has a 20% chance to spawn from picked up junk. After beating a boss with him having 3 or more junk + Junkan, he's "unlocked" and can be obtained through C tier passive items. He can still spawn from junk drops, however the chance is reduced significantly, at only 5% post-unlock

>>170242256
Ah right, I assumed it was Junkan but the timing of the unlock threw me.

>>170239171
anything?

i think that melting's b would take a lot longer to do but at least that's mostly just git gud

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>>170244284
You want fast weapons. Invest in something that's capable of carrying you to The Throne quickly. If you're willing to loop, try to find a Golden Assault Rifle.

>>170245294
now all that gif needs is handdawn graphics in paper mario form honestly not that hard since they don't really have that many animations, bosses and enemies having the most and a paper aesthetic background and you have super paper nuclear throne.

>>170148461
>that rebel
where can I find more?

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When is the gungeon switch version gonna come out?

>>170242008
that must be new, I don't remember him having that

>>170247263
why would you ever want to play a game that requires high precision shooting with a controller

bamp

>casey and railgun on the first floor
oh this is gonna be a goooooood run

>>170256214
>super hot watch and strafe gun by oubliette
it got even better
thanks directional pad

>>170257026
every time I get directional pad I wanna save it since it can steal and is pretty much a better mega-buster to boot but I also wanna just use it for the free chest

>>170250779

The Aimbot :^)))) controller works fine usually, and it even has the advantage of allowing you not to have to pay attention to aiming as much so you can dodge more. The real question is why the fuck would you ever want to gimp remote bullets and bloody scarf like that?

>>170257212

to be fair, stealing with it is a decent utilization of it and honestly worth hanging on to because of that. Being able to potentially get expensive S tier items from the special vendors can pay out extremely well depending on what else they have. For example, it's not that uncommon to find one of the Ammolets paired up with the Owl in Old Red's shop, or something like Sixth Chamber + Cursed bullets from Cursula. Just make sure you use the grappling hook after you have payed for anything you might want, because unless the room layout was generous, most of the time you'll get caught and lose shop access.

>>170233287
Haven't seen the mod that gives bosses healthbars before.
Is it a part of something?

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ding dong bampu

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I'm so glad this thing isn't hot garbage anymore. Supply drop update was really kind to this and Flame hand.

Speaking of the guns in this game, what are some reference guns you would like to see in a future update for EtG? I couple ideas that jump to mind immediately for me:

>Kalina Ann reference weapon (DMC3)
>Has an Alt fire that swaps on reload
>One is a standard short range rocket with good blast radius
>other one shoots a spray of tiny rockets kinda like yari
>can do D-pad grapping hook command and steal with it
>Unlike normal grappling hooks, it pulls the enemies towards you for half the total distance the hook was fired unless it hits a wall
>S-tier

>Basically any Shadows of the Damned Gun
>Killer 7 reference gun
>RE:4 reference gun of some kind

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I think I might be legitimately retarded for dying on this run

>>170265484
depends, who were you

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>>170265770
Cadence

>>170265841
>Obsidian longsword, ring of wonder
seriously how DID you die

>>170265939
Got all excited about getting the ring of wonder for the first timeand didn't know I could just swap rings to heal so I was looking around for food items and a skeleton caught me off guard

>>170266078
>died to a skeleton
what color

>>170266126
Yellow on a horse

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>>170266253
Could be worse I guess.

>>170266253
i learned the other day that piercing weapons go through a mounted skeleton's horse
it's pretty good

>>170148461
I want to do Nuclear Throne online co-op using the mod, but my friend doesn't want to pay $15 for the game. Can pirated copies use the mod like Risk of Rain?

>>170269273
no it uses the steam shit for everything

If you get the Makeshift Cannon with Unity is it pretty much gg?

>>170271880

yeah. Even without it, there are plenty of weapons that also boost your guns to stupid levels because of how unity works. Things like Alien Engine, Composite Gun, Gold Gun, etc.

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>lock pick refuses to work
>end up with a knight commander junkan
>black chest with a vulcan
>lose to Blockner
If I lose the relic one room away from the thing I'm supposed to turn it into I'm gonna flip.

>can't find anyone to play NTT with
fug :DDDDDD

i'll enjoy etg if i like nt and isaac, right?

>>170275708
very nice jojo reference my friend

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>page 9

>>170262308
>bayonetta's guns
>4 guns one on each hand and foot
>rapid fire 4 at a time

>kirby themed weapon that absorbs an enemy (one thats low HP) and allows you to use their attack till you get rid of it or use up the ammo.
>could also be an active that turns weakened enemies into their weapons but with low ammo that disappear upon using active again or running out of ammo

>crypt of the necrodancer style gun that has it's own music when used
>if you shoot it to the rhythm it does good damage but if not it does small damage

>star trek phaser gun that either uses up a little ammo when tapped for a chance to stun or can be held to have a much lower chance to disintegrate non-boss enemies

>another possible kirby weapon is the star rod that can shoot up to 3 projectiles at a time that bounce around the room but you cannot shoot anymore if all three are currently bouncing around the room.

Those are the ones I'd like to see

>>170276962
most probably maybe

>>170278709
actually a much better idea for the bayonetta weapon is that it's rapid fire and you can shoot it while dodge rolling or that it slows down time for a bit if you successfully dodge a bullet or attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSaA8PnPM44

>>170278709
those are some good ones, I like the idea of the necrodancer gun. Star Rod would also be pretty dope.
>>170279250
Why not both?
>Witch time dodge rolls while firing
all of my yes.

>>170280961
did you like the song, anon?

ded
When did you give up on Isaac, /lite/?

>>170281154
it's okay i guess

>>170281165

After unlocking basically everything except for shit tied to Keeper and I guess a lot of the challenges too because I don't really find them that interesting. The Lost was fun and actually felt like a real challenge character (at least post rebirth lost, anyways). Keeper just feels like shit and I don't really care that much about completion if it means I can't enjoy the game.
>>170281263
Fair enough. Watsky is mah boi though, and that song kept popping into my head while I was bumping this thread and /indie/'s

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>>170281557
>Ed gives Lost the D4, holy mantle and spectral tears
>Nice man maybe things will be differe-
>D4 rerolls his holy mantle

>>170281996

>Afterbirth+ comes out
>He had every chance
>S T I L L isn't hard coded into the lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S77S-SY7fM
A-at least the d4 could save a run filled with shitty items and possibly re-roll you a dead cat even though you lose holy mantle...r-right? ;-;

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>>170258303
I've been making my own personal hud, and boss healthbars just happened to be a part of it. Gonna release it after I iron out a few more kinks.

Being that I built it off of the Infinite play mod (i'd made the huds prior but decided to use them there), it'll also have infinite play packaged with it (though disabled by default -- can be enabled via chat command)

>>170242008
>>170249025
If only the game wasn't rigged to throw garbage at you when you play with the robot.

>armor suddenly is almost never avaliable at shops
>amor is almost never dropped from chests
>amor never appear when clearing rooms
>red hearts appear everywhere, everytime, often full
>heart-giving passives are everywhere and still won't give you armor when picking up
>spice, nanomachines and gunknight armor is nowhere to be seen

Still my favorite character, though, Love his arm gun to death.

>>170284575
>all those throne butts
SIT
ON
THE
THRONE

i want the necrodancer gun in etg to make the soundtrack better

>playing on the forge, awesome itens and guns in general
>game glitches out and freezes
>continue option isn't avaliable

t-thanks game

what ever happened to the cursed shuckle?

>>170292918
hopefully died from his obesity

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>>170293156
i thought shuckle was a girl?
also nah, i lied
they have a channel where they do skullgirls shit
theyre pretty decent

>>170262308
the gun from who framed roger rabbit where you have six shots and each shot fired causes a cartoony bullet to be fired with each of the 6 have a different effect. Like one that flies around the room damaging anything it hits where another fires bullets while it's firing through the air, etc.

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>going for the 5th chamber shortcut
>almost 500 shells and 5 keys for the jew
>15 pieces of junk, a full hour of playing
>he wants to see 6 full hearts first

Who the fuck designed this? Who's responsible? This is ten different types of bullshit. I already showed him the bloody hearts in the literal previous run when playing with the bullet, now I need to do it again? Do I have to bring him ALL the itens in the same run? Or did the game just erased the information that I did that already? Fuck this shit. Died soon after out of pure rage.

>>170281165
I couldn't go back after nuclear throne. Isaac is tedious to play.

>>170299380
If you already showed him I think thats a bug. The opposite can happen where he wants to see things like the master round before you're supposed to show it to him which can be done to skip doing things entirely.

>>170300236
Another bug that happened to me is that he wouldn't ask me for the master round after I gave him the keys and shells. This happened both on the third and fourth chamber but not on the second, where I gave him everything at the same time. On the other times he just took the itens, said he wanted "a powerful item from the previous floor" but wouldn't take it, even though I had it. Had to do it again on a different run, which halted the shortcut immensely on the fourth floor, since the third master round is a pain for me to get.

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I truly have reached a modding nirvana

>>170301132
gungeon has a lot of bugs I'd like to report but they seemingly don't have a simple email for that kinda stuff, makes it hard since by now I've forgotten a lot of them

>>170301256
perfection

>>170301703
>as always please send bugs to [email protected] or post them here on the Steam discussions.

u wot m8?

>>170302172
nevermind i'm just retarded

>>170301703
I wouldn't count on that, unfortunately. I read quite a few threads on the discussion forum on steam about glitches, performance issues, bugs and whatnot and the response from devs is always on the lines of "this isn't a priority issue for us right now" with the condescending remark about updating your hardware/software. There have been about three or four major updates since the release and some bugs persist from day one without any comment from the devs, likely because they don't care enough to fix them.

>>170302472
yeah not to mention the crashes everyone keep complaining about. I found the best way to stop them is to close my browser when playing the game but even then it can happen.

does gungeon have an option to auto-reload when out of ammo? not seeing anything in the settings, or any reason it wouldn't be desirable

>>170303165
No auto-reload, but if you fire with an empty clip it should do it automagically.

>page 10
I'll keep /lite/ along as long as I have to.
We aren't merging yet boys

>Judas run
>get prayer card, everything is going well
>no fucking hearts to recover down there
>die
>after this, every Judas run just die from fire, spiders or bombs

>>170305524

That's the spirit. At least there aren't 8 IP's like a few days ago. I was sweatin pretty hard then.

>>170305737
dying to fire makes a man suicidal

>>170303128
bullet hell is almost entirely unplayable for me on account of how poorly it runs. this game is so badly made, almost like it was made to run in a next gen machine even though it's retro pixel shit. no excuses

>>170303165
to be honest for the longest time i thought the same and that it was a poor decision on the game's part, but then i got gud and realized it's exactly how it's supposed to be

>>170310736
why would that be ideal, though?
i was wondering why/how it'd be justifiable

>>170212554
Too bad no update yet right?

>Burn out on TBoI because lots of grinding with very little progress, and because it's shit to begin with
>Try to start playing gungeon for the first time since it came out
>It controls way better than isaac but it's also ten times harder
>About 10 hours of playing and I've only made it past the second floor once
I'm just not cut out for this shit, man

>>170315737
I didn't think there were people worse at Rogue-lites than me.
At the 10 hour mark, I could semi-consistently clear floor 3.
A decently big factor in getting anywhere is if your loot is good, which requires you to unlock a ton of shit which requires a ton of Credits which requires progress.

>>170315995
I can't even consistently beat floor 1 depending on which boss I get and what gear I find
I really hate that every 'good' roguelite seems to have a hard-on for bullet hells

Does anyone know how to backup the game files on gungeon? I found them at the appdata/locallow/dodge roll, should I just copy everything and put it back together after reinstalling the game?

>>170317389
Also, there are some other files (etg_data) at the steamapps folder, do I need to copy those as well?

>>170281165
Midway through Afterbirth, I can't deal with +'s bullshit and Gungeon is SUCH a breath of fresh air, goddamn.

>>170281557
The Keeper is such bullshit. Unlock aside his hp counts as normal hearts for some stupid reason and HP ups do fuck all.

>>170315737
I can get to floor three or four but Gatling gull usual wings me at least once.

>>170315737
Don't you give up on me, Anon. EtG might be hard as shit, but god damn does it feel good when you conquer that shit.
>>170315482
N e v e r E v e r
>>170317852
Yeah, gungeon is great. I like the balance it manages to strike between stacking up advantages and actually being skilled.
350+ hours and counting and I'm still havin' a blast.
>Gatling Gul usually wings me
Fuck off, Carlos

>Just realized the reason I'm not finding Ox's Arm on Hollow is that I never picked it up from that first run because I died carrying it finding a balloon or whatever

>>170317374
>bullet hells
In Isaac, you better have many orbitals or Lost Contact and you're gold

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What is this horse shit.

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>>170321704
This fucking game.

>>170322051
This fucking game is a pain in the ass.
>Miniboss caster dude shows up
>Poops out a LOCKED Blue Chest as a win
>Random room post-clear is a LOCKED Red Chest
>The only Key Drop on 1, 2, and Oubliette was used to save the Enchantress or whatever
>Oubliette Shop is Locked
>1 Shop had only 1 key, no post-boss key
>Same with Oubliette Boss
>1 Key in 2's Shop, no drops
>0 Mimics so I can 0 loot besides Explosions and the occasional bit of garbage

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>>170322671
Whoops.
Also opened Red Chest. Starpew popped out.

>>170322803
>Floor 4
>Finally gonna get the next 2 steps of the Elevator done
>Give him all that Junk
>2 Keys short
>1 drops
>SHOP IS FUCKING LOCKED AGAIN
>Die 1 key short, but at least got Coin Crown
I hate this game.

>>170322803

Starpew kicks so much ass. I still want to see how it interacts with battery bullets.

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Went to bullet hell for the first time as Pilot. Cheesed the absolute fuck out of it with the hyper light drifter+scattershot+some item that refunds bullets when you miss that I can't remember the name of. Feels like I cheated but a first win's a first win.

>another loss to blockner
Fuck it, next time I'm ignoring the assholes that spawn with him.

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Cursed Bullets has to be one of my favorite items in the game to get as Bullet

Also YZ shrine best shrine

>>170325724
>some item that refunds bullets when you miss
Zombie bullets.

Hyper Light is pretty damn sick if you've got some ways to artificially refund the ammo. I've had it with 7 blessings from the Gun Godz shrine once and that shit was amazing. I also got it with double vision which was a lot less impressive comparatively but still really damn effective since the CD is low so you can generally keep your ammo high.

>>170326094

Cursed Bullets are one of my favorite new items added in general. I almost always will play a curse-heavy style run if I have the option and Sixth Chamber is pretty much my favorite passive item in the game.

Guys, what the hell happens if I have two Infamy passives? Do they stack?

>>170328134
In Isaac? Probably just a higher chance to activate or something, i dunno.
In something else? fuck if i know.

>>170328535
nevermind I solved the question
I found one through angel room and one through chaos
if you take them, the game will just think you took only one

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>>170284575
Yeah, I recognized the infinite play hud. It's a pretty clean looking hud but I still miss being able to see what level I'm at.
Don't have the hours to recognize how many mutations I get per run, so the only way to know if my ultra is coming is to count the icons. I guess it's just the price you pay for a cleaner hud, don't know where you could fit it in.

>bee gun
>zombie bullets
Please tell me they work together somehow and I won't get fucked this run.

>>170331881
zombue bullets only activate if you miss. I don't think they work very well for homing stuff

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>>170332560
Good thing this t-shirt gun and love shotgun don't.

>>170332737
>lose armor immediately after saying that
>still can't blank when I'm about to get hit
>didn't use lead god potion more often partially because I have no idea how long actives take to recharge
>roll INTO A BULLET
Progress was made and I'm slightly less butthurt about this.

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>>170333487
Forgot my shame

>>170333487
you have to check the active item slot and if the item is highlighted you're good

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How do you dodge this attack?

>>170335119
very carefully

>>170335119
you're supposed to weave in and out quickly, though if you're careful just go to the top row of bullets and dode roll over them. That move is pretty difficult to dodge though either way.

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>>170335119
I usually just do this

>>170333487
Only blank if it looks like you're gonna roll into a bullet.

It's your second line of defense, never your first.

>It's another black chest that has a shelleton key or AKEY-47 when it's the last chest of the run or when you already has so many keeys you don't know what to do with them all
>it's another red or black chest that has an item too shitty to be in that tier or just a heart container in them
I've been getting better use out of green chests and blue chests than those things recently, even brown chests have boss killing items like potion of gun friendship.

>>170343316
>two brown chests on first floor
>manage to lockpick both of them
>both of them had a key alongside their regular item
>go down to the Oubliette
>first chest there has Seven-Leaf Clover
Good times ahead

>>170343461
>never get 7-leaf clover
>one time I do it's the last chest

I just want my clone 7-leaf clover run

Anyone playing Dungeon of the Endless? Is this game allowed here?

Whats you favorite combination of characters to start with?

>>170350842
Yes it is, but you're not going to find anyone to talk about it here.
You can start out with pretty much anyone, but Max + Skroig is my favorite.

>>170350940
Where else should I look then?

Also, why Max over Hikensha? He seems like a straight downgrade to me. Both have endless expert, operator and make dust, Hikensha can just hold her own ground and her abilities don't make her leave the room to operate

>>170351158
Because Pilfer is incredibly useful, more so than what Hikensha has.

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>>170335119
>>170338156
>>170338391

you can also line yourself up with one of the gaps and dodge left or right over the line of 4 bullets. It's a precise manuever that has to be repeated a few times during the attack and you need to be holding the opposite direction after the roll so you can keep moving parallel with the bullets and not get hit by the next line.

>>170351306
Lol Pilfer always seemed useless to me. At most it probably let you light 2 rooms

I just realized after being in this general for months that most people here play with the lighting on high, from looking at screenshots. Do you guys like it? I know it has some cool effects for some bosses, but I find it to be so dull and dark most of the time. Always have it on low.

Also, force pixel perfect or not? I like how smooth the game runs without it, but the scaling makes the game look really small.

>>170355741

>Do you guys like it
Yeah it's not half bad. I like how it adds some tints of color to the floors, it makes them feel (more) different. It's pretty cool on floors 4 and 5.

>Force pixel perfect or not?
I play on pixel perfect, but that's mainly because my native resolution matches it, so I don't have to force it's just the default. I don't really know what would happen otherwise.

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Now I just need 72 more Brass for some fun...
There's a Key drop on the floor as well, 5 keys = clean out Lock and open Oubliette.

>>170356950
>72 more brass
u wot m8?

if you can hit 50 casings, I'd take two keys and ballot + chest friendship. Chest Demolition is kind of bad and not worth wasting a key even if you could get an extra one and buy it

>>170357206
I took Friend+Anatomy.
I broke the Red and Blue Chests on the floor and both pooped out fucking Active Items.
I hate this game's lot system so very fucking much.

>>170357293
You broke a red chest?
Are you retarded?

>>170357293

>RED CHEST ON FLOOR 1
>YOU FUCKING BOUGHT CHEST ANATOMY AND BROKE IT

you are making me cry right now you glorious idiot. No seriously, that was retarded. There were a lot of plays you could've made there, and that was by the dumbest. One key definitely should've been reserved for that Red Chest.

>>170357405
I want to believe this game isn't total fucking garbage, but everything points to it being pure trash. So I tried something unorthodox.

>>170357293
>got demolition
>broke the red chest
but why? chest demolition only really gives stuff under the tier of chest you broke.
Also chest demolition should be a D-tier item, it's far to awful and situational to be of any other tier. Not to mention it cuts you off from getting junk which can be useful in many ways.

>>170357501
>I think this game is bad so I made a bad decision to see if it'd be better
what

>>170357501

>everything points to it being pure trash
???
>I tried something unorthodox
retarded. You mean you tried something retarded. You can't just decide to play badly and then get mad when the game won't reward you for it.

>>170357560
Agreed. Maybe even C tier, but B isn't right for what it does.
>mfw chest vampirism is also B tier.
That one at least has some niche usefulness with cigs + lockpick shenanigans

>>170357697
>bad decision
I'd never done anything like it so I decided to try it.
My apologies for not looking up every pro strategy.

>>170357770
You literally destroyed a semi-rare chest.
Opening chests is not a "pro strategy", it's a common fucking concept.

>>170357832
>Pick up Item that claims "Broken Chests will give you good stuff."
>Broken Chests give me garbage that nobody wants
Hmm.

>>170357720
I wonder if they do stuff like this on purpose so you might get bad stuff in good chests or good stuff in bad chests. This can be the only reason pretty bad items can be green or higher and stuff like double shot and gun friendship potion are D-tier.

>>170358070
Oh yeah, I forgot that it said "BREAK GOOD CHESTS WHEN YOU HAVE KEYS FOR IT".
Except that it fucking doesn't.

>>170358070
Pretty sure that doesn't mean break every chest you see.

>>170357770
This >>170357832

Under different circumstances, that MIGHT have actually been a half decent play, too. But you had one of the best tier of chests spawn and broke it for no reason when you could've easily opened it. If it were two C / D tier chests it would've been a different story.
>>170358070
>Pick up Item that claims "Broken Chests will give you good stuff."
>"Improves the contents of broken chests" somehow equates to "every broken chest will pay out with good shit"

Nigger half the time all you get is junk and half a red heart. What the fuck were you expecting, B tier shit????

>>170358095
it's definitely on purpose.

>It's another room in Gungeon with 4 waves of nothing but various ammo bats that you know give 0 Brass and just waste your time

>>170358070
it says inproves contents, nobody is really sure how it works as even the wiki doesn't say anything but it basically gives you chance to get guns and items from lower tier chests when broken, still pretty shitty. The only real use it has is getting decent stuff from breaking brown chests or pick-ups and keeping you from getting junk from other chests.

>>170358298
the bats should really just give 1 shell, theres no reason they shouldn't. Just make it so the one's spawned by the big bats unable to spawn shells and only make it so they're dropped when you kill the bigger one, no reason to just keep you from getting money.

They should also make the au gun an A-tier item or even B-tier. 100 damage a shot is amazing, not when you have extremely limited ammo and a really long reload time. Hell certian large enemies won't even die to it in one hit at a point in the game.

>>170358669
Quad Laser is comparable.
>C-tier item
>Has a comically low shot rate, but every other stat is amazing, 80 damage, 50 Ammo
The fact AU gun only has 22 shots is a definite reason to downgrade its rarity. By a LOT.
>S-rank, long reload, piss for ammo, great damage, if every shot connects, that's 2200 damage with no modifiers, also limits other A/S-rank items you can get
>In comparison, the Quad-laser can pump out 4000, almost DOUBLE and doesn't inhibit A/S drops

>>170358669
>B-tier
No.
>A-tier
ehhhh....maybe. I dunno. A lot of what makes it great is the potential for broken ass synergies. Unity, Hip Holster, Alpha / Omega Bullets, etc.
I wouldn't call 1.25 seconds a "long ass reload" either. It's an amazing boss shredder, regardless. Emptying the entire gun into old king, one of the tankiest bosses in the entire game, is almost enough to completely kill him without support from any other guns / passive / active abilities.

>Room with 2 Mutant Shotgun Kin (Green poison immune ones from Oubliette)
>And a Cube Slime
>0 payout across all 3
I don't get why they make your ability to earn money so heavily RNG-dependent.

>>170359036

>room clear gun is comparable to boss shredder gun
u wot m8?

It's not unreasonable to not miss any shots with AU during a boss fight and I think you really dont comprehend how much 2200 damage is on a boss from one fucking gun.

>>170359196
>I don't get why they make your ability to earn money so heavily RNG-dependent.
Because if play well, no amount of rng can fuck your run up. did you get hit at all? because that can influence money pay out.

>>170359626
Hit only influences the one enemy who you get hit by's drop table for Brass.
And no.
>Clear Gatling Gull
>Get 3 Copper Shells and a Master Round

>>170359779
>Get 3 Copper Shells and a Master Round
That's like my favorite meme.
just a part of the game. My advice to just not worry about it, focus on not getting hit and the cash will come. Or you can be a filthy curse whore and never worry about money again

>>170359997
Hero Shrine requires you beat the Past. Not advisable until after someone gets good at which point it's irrelevant.

>>170360108
True dat. Sometimes curse opportunities do present themselves, though. Especially with the cursed jars being added into the game. I've used those a couple of times to give myself a few points of curse on floor 1 for a small cash boost.

>>170319713
>N e v e r E v e r
Jesus Christ they should hurry, without Antibirth update /lite/ has a guaranted chance to die as the chance for devil room without getting hit on the second floor

>>170281996
D4 can be still good if you find another active item and then Dice Shard or D6

So I heard there's a shitton of unlocks and progression related things that need hegemony credits. Should I just save up on those until I git gud or just spend what I have on whatever in that shop on the left side?

>>170367761

Just spend them on unlocks that seem interesting to you. Adding more items into the pool from the unlocks will make getting more hegemony credits easier anyways. Make sure you're doing Frifle's hunts too, he gives unlocks and hegemony for completing.

>make it through the whole second floor with no dungeon with the old crest
>no shrine to put it on
Motherfuckers

>>170368106
I just got his first one, and when I eventually unlock that curse lady I do everything for her since curse is apparently good here.

>>170370790
It's good but it's also run depedant

http://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Curse

Heres what curse does, it'll help you decide if you wanna do a curse run or not. Just realize that anything bought from cursula gives 2.5 curse + any curse the item already has so be careful.

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>ran face first into the first barrage of the last phase
I hate myself so much right now.

>>170371232
Jammed stuff doesn't sound fun at all just yet.

>>170374395
if you get lucky and find cursed bullets or silver bullets then I suggest you do cursed stuff. Hell with those items and if you're the robot then there are next to no consequences.

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uhhh heres some melting oc

>>170376770
pretty bad but who cares at this point

>>170376937
lmao aiight
dont see you makin art shitthead

>>170377342
>you need to be a chef to judge a soup
whatever you say, boss

>>170377536
least a proper chef knows how to actually commentate on the soup
youre over here stickin your dick in it and licking it off sayin it tastes like dick and then fuckin off

>>170377934
ok then
it doesn't look anything like melting, it just looks like a blob
the anatomy is all kinds of fucked up
the cactus looks retarded
no real shading
verdict: looks like something a 5th grader would draw, try again

what's the bind to change between actives in etg?
not seeing anything in the control scheme settings

>>170385405
pretty sure it's left shift.

>>170385405
F I think.

bampu

>>170221352
recently this was the first chest i opened on a pilot run

it didn't go well

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>found three black chests so far
>all three items were green guons

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>half soul hearts turn into full soul hearts when you re-enter the room

does this really happen

>>170393992

>having to do that fight with a rogue special

I'm...I'm so sorry.

>>170394651
what the fuck it doesnt happen anymore
what triggered this

>>170394651
>yoshi_filters.jpeg
not even going to invest energy in looking for it
although I applaud your attempts in keeping the thread alive baiting people with revolting filters