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Boatism edition

*****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

>Newb guide
http://pastebin.com/XGWdGjPc

>0.6.1.1 LIVE
https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/updates/patch-notes-0611/

>0.6.2 SOON
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/pt062/

>February Event Calendar + Ship Class specific boosts
NA https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/forever-alone/
EU http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/73122-event-calendar-february/

>Plans for 2017
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/whatsinthebox/

>Captain Skill caculator
http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc

>Leaked info from WoT magazine
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/5ugx31/summary_from_wot_magazine_article/
>leddit

>Statistic tracker
http://warships.today
http://wows-numbers.com/
http://www.wowstats.org/
http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/index.html

>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully_ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel"
SEA Channel: /vg/

>Clans
[BOTES] on NA - contact Precisionista
[HOTEL] on NA - contact Precisionista too
[BOTES] on SEA - contact Precisionista for this as well
[HOTEL] on EU - go ahead and talk to Precisionista here, he's lonely
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>>169950839
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First for the 060
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first for Big_Shitter isn't coming back
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That's not even a bote. They're a (heavily understaffed) tonk platoon. OP pls.
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xth for definitely a cruiser just trust us tovarish))))
Free Dreadnoughts are normal for them))))
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>RM still not announced
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Tioga? More like Shitioga(y).
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>>170147051
chitoge?
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>>170147051
Okay Ironheart
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>>170148212
I have a thing for girls in glasses.
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Why do you still play this terrible game, /wowsg/ ?
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>>170149685
I haven't played in weeks.
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>>170149710
So youre only here to shitpost?

Godspeed, anon
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>>170149767
Don't we all?
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>>170149849
No, i still play the game and expect serious discussion here
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>>170149685
Because I hate myself
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>"Anon, mind your own business, he plays the game like he wants it to play"

Maybe, maybe you should get a driving license before racing in a Ferrari.
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>>170151209
And yes, it is sorted for "highest amount of battles first". He has 2 games total.
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>>170149881
Kys you dumb faggot
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>>170149685
Because I lost control of my life
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>>170149685
Why do you still shitpost intead of playing the game or do anything else noteworthy?
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Why does /wowsg/ love ntr so much?
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ded
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>>170155010
unsubscribe
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>>170155010
[x] Marry and impregnate
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>>170155842
Not even close my friend, i bet she works in a brothel.
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>tfw free 5 days prem
Is this for real?
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>>170158326
>tfw several years of premium worth of WoT gold left
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Would Yamato's secondaries be better or worse if you replaced all the 127mm guns with Ducky 10cm guns?
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>>170149685
Because I do enjoy it and have fun.
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>>170159043
Much much worse. They can't pen DD hulls.
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>>170159973
WG would just make them shoot AP.

Then they can pen DDs)))))))))))))))))))))
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>>170160445
secondary duck guns are already shooting HE and somehow deal damage.
only guns 150+mm are actually shooting AP
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What clans are you guys joining after BOTES falls apart?
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>>170161150
BOTES2 ebviously
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>>170161150
I will be migrating to SEA to join their [BOTES], which from the looks of things seems less autistic and more ded.
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>>170160445
Actually I'd love that on something like B-65. Duck can easily do 2-3k salvos with AP, with full secondaries spec and ARush you'll have like 1.5sec reload on those things. Shredding everything that gives you broadside all day every day would be super fun.
>>170161014
>somehow deal damage.
They can pen DD/CA superstructures but guess what are the odds of hitting it.
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>>170161650
secondaries are aiming at centre of the ship by default, so pretty high.
and dispersion doesnt matter since you're pumping shots like crazy
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>>170161150
Kys Tioga
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>>170161759
Last time I brawled in my Zao secondaries scored about 80 hits and did something like 1200 damage. Duck secondaries are shit. SHIT!
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>>170162078
>not brawling in Hakuryu
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>French BB line still not released
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What do I take on Hiryu captain after first 10 points?
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>>170162406
Flamu pls
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What italian line are you looking forward to?
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>>170161150
Whatever clan raptor makes I want to join, just waiting for him to make it so I can leave BOTES
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>>170163709
Bolzano, Vittorio Venetto, Capitani Romani, in that order.
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>>170163709

TIER VIII PREMIUM LITTORIO CLASS BB ROMA
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Any of my EU friends wanna shoot me a welcome back referal ?
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>>170164404
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/JKG5Mvg
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>>170164549
Tells me I cant use the link...

have they turned of referalls for accounts that didnt play 3+ months ?
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>>170164709
If you're above Service Level 3 or something like that, then you've missed the chance at using the code
If you want the free stuff, it might be prudent to just start again if you haven't gone down the lines much yet
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>>170164862
well fuck
Not worth it to start new for me.

Thanks for the link anyways tho
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how do i stop worrying about muh stats and just enjoy the game?
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>don't play for a week
>get bored
>let's try some t8 CA
>t10 match
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>170165125
just simply stop giving a fuck about them

or enable parent controll on warships.today
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>>170163709
Z A R A
A
R
A

Also Capitani Romani
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>>170165125
Div. Playing with friends is fun, and divisions have higher stats more often than not.
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>>170165125
coop
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WHERE ARE THE STATS JAKE

GIB STATS
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>>170165125
stop playing on weekends
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>WR gets above 60%
>suddenly 20 lose streak
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Reminder: the RU DD Split is concealed nerf.
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>>170167514
No its not.
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>>170167514
Why would you think that?
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>baBBies removed entirely from the game
There, this fixes literally everything.
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>>170167571
>>170167605
don't replay to my posts
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>>170167857
It's reply.
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>>170167571
>>170167605
>new t5 is trash
>t6 gnevony is not buffed and up tiered
>new t7 is worse in every way compaired to kiev
>>trahkent gut uptiered to t9 with no buffs
>kabah still has it's nerfed range that is worse than udali
>ogniboy has been sent from t6 to t8 and is going to be just as trash
>udaloi is forced into another tree and will hafve all of it's modules reset engoy ur grind
>grozoinyboy is worse than udaloi has no flavor at all and is bland uncompetitive trash

ggez
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>>170167514
>RU DD Split is concealed nerf.
>Khab is getting an outright buff despite already being the best performing T10 DD
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>>170167675
Pretty
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>>170167979
um what did i just say
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>>170168179
>kiev at t8 with no HP changes, range nerf, but with higher HE alpha)))
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>>170168286
sample size to low. your argument is invalidity
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>>170168362
I was just correcting your error.
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>>170151209
>Implying driving licences have anything to do with motorsports

>>170161014
>only guns 150+mm are actually shooting AP
Wrong

>>170168179
All of them have their HE buffed you mong.

>>170168404
Kiev is getting a HP buff.
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I T A L Y
S
B
E
S
T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rLNb_rofyE
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>>170167675
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>>170168179
>kabah still has it's nerfed range that is worse than udali
Yeah what an awful nerf WG decided to put into this patch.
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>>170168895
>d-d-d-d-d-don't w-w-w-worry goy we buffed the most wortless stat when dead-zoning exists
ez. get keked retard
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>>170168983
I'm sorry that your shitty german navy was worse IRL than the superior soviet navy phlemu you furfag fuck. this is reality. get used to it
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>>170169078
Yawn.
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>>170169221
*Yawn*
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>>170168931
>>170168353
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>spend days playing USN
>try KM for a change
>take too much lead every single time
That AP is simply not fat enough
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>>170168504
Even WG themselves said that the Khab is the best performing T10.
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>>170170342
That's why they are buffing it? Good idea, da, Comrade?
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>Not DOOT edition
You can do better
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>>170170342
That sounds like an alternative fact, libcuck
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>>170170410
>not even boat or sea related OP image
He could have done much better
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>>170170408
One ship will always be best in ratings no matter how much we balans. Might as well be Khab, comrade ))))))))
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>>170170342
>>170170408
you have no source. because it never happened. you are not smart
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>>170170525
less than .001% of the playerbase has played kabah educate on how statistic works idiota. you are not smart
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>>170170452
this was his only option for Sora no W,, I think.
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>>170170439
>>170170532
https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/02/06/wows-qa-6th-february-2017/
>Tier 10:
>Best DD: Khabarovsk.
>Worst DD: Shimakaze (the worst tier 10).
kys
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>>170170890
it say source russian video bloger. you are no smart
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>>170170634
>you are not smart
Odd, since I hear regularlly from people that I am.quite intelligent.
Try a less hasty and fumbled put down next time.
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>>170171026
you are dumb, and other people know about it
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>>170170890
>also statistically the best performing DD on NA, EU and RU
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>>170171208
sample size is low. RU DD's are not popular.argument invalids you are not smart
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>>170171281
Shit damage control
try harder next time
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>>170171364
I already say about sample size pages ago. you can't read or math huh?
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>>170171432
see >>170171364
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>>170171493
you no read. stay upset mad XAXAXAXA
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>>170171493
>See the post he responded to

?????????
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>>170169967
P R E T T Y
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>>170171607
>posting the same thing again
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Why is math statistics so hard for the german?
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>>170170634
>less than .001% of the playerbase has played kaba
Source?
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>>170171912
you posted source. make a better try
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>>170167675
>>170169967
looks plasticy tbqhwyfamalam
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>>170171970
I haven't posted anything. I asked you to provide source of information, that less than 1 of every 100000 players played Kebab
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>>170173280
Sad. you took so long to respond just to be a disappointment and prove yourself blown *Yawn*
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>>170173395
Wow. Okay. Just show me where I posted such info, because (You) are incapable of proving your claims, so I can look myself
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>>170170890
you are serious not smart. stop pretending now ok>>170173863
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So was Roma confirmed as T8 premium BB or not?
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>>170174050
no. HMS hood HMS Rodney and HMS vanguard were
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>>170174153
Fuck off. Can't you get a trip already so I'd filter the shit out of you?
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>>170174341
filters and trips are illegal in my religion
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>>170174465
>A religion that shitposts from the shadows of anonymity

hmmmmmm
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>>170174731
i am g-d
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>>170174153
>HMS Hood
>Premium T8 BB
>Nagato-tier armor'
>all of 28 knots
>2 degrees turret traverse for maximum uselessness
Please let this be true.
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>5 minutes into the game tell team going down the right side to come back and help
>they don't they just keep going
>8 minutes in I tell them again tell them we lose if they don't
>they keep going and two of them die doing it
>we lose

Yeah that's enough wows for one day.
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>>170175045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Iz47tcsmM
>12belt
>3in deck
>33knts
>nagato tier
XD
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>>170175045
Hood was better armored for her displacement that SS Iowa dude
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>>170175438
stop false flagging me
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>>170175206
>Nagato-class Armor:
>Waterline belt: 305–100 mm (12.0–3.9 in)
>Deck: 69 mm (2.7 in) + 100 mm (3.9 in) + 38 mm (1.5 in)
It's literally Nagato tier.

>>170175334
>Hood was better armored for her displacement that SS Iowa dude
And? That matters if you're trying to adhere to the Washington Treaty and need to get as much armor for your displacement, but at the end of the day being efficient with your armor doesn't mean anything when 15-16 inch guns are shooting at you.
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>>170175061
3 enemies in cap
Pretty hard to stop that, they were right.
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>>170176528
nah Hood used more advanced designs and better quality plate. I'm sorry that you are so uneducated
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>>170176528
>metric and imperial
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>>170176560
well I mean at 5 minutes and 8 minutes in there wasn't 3 enemies in the cap.
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Just a reminder the RU cruisers are trash until moskva and need to be buffed hard
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>>170177410
Da tovarish ))))))))))))))))))))
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>>170176604
>Hood used more advanced designs
Actually from all post-Jutland ships Nagato's armour scheme was the most advanced and efficient.
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>>170177835
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>>170178224
Double wrong.
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Holy shit stop fucking replying to him.
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>>170178408
nah
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>>170178428
No.
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>>170178464
>Nelson best armor
Nelson had the All-or-Nothing armor scheme, it was not that good.
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WHAT MORE DO I POSSIBLY NEED TO DO YOU FUCKIGN CUNTS WHY DO I ALWAYS GET THE RETARDED FAGGOT CUNT TWAT SHITTER LOSER AUTIST TEAM EVERY GODDAMN FUCKIING TEAM
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>>170178769
wow
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>>170177410
Donskoi only gets to fire twice with its radar up ((((
bad nerf from Chap ((((((
needs buff to Chap RoF )))))))
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>>170178815
Have you considered that the problem may be you? Please, anon, tell me about your relationship with your mother.
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>>170179375
why are you so obsessed with penisis
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This fucking general during BR hours...
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>from tomorrow upwards you mosh play an unbuffed trashkent at t9 to get kabah
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>>170178815
I hate losing and I'm pretty shit so I became a IJN CV main and I can reliably win 75% of my battles with ease. Yes, I might be autistic because I'm only playing IJN CVs but it's such a great feeling to always win because I'm no longer a loser.
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>>170180686
Good. Fuck the Khabarovsk, people should have to suffer if they want to play that broken piece of shit.
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>>170180776
>you either die a hero or live long enough to become autism
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>>170180776
I'm better than you in Nagato
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>>170180852
just play co-op dude
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>>170180897
Taiho is my waifu (in WoWs and Kantai) and autism is required to play CVs so I don't care what you think.
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>>170180776
Cancer, leave anytime.
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>>170180904
stop pretending to be me
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>>170181151
At least you have good taste.
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>>170181206
>cancer
>>>/WotLabs/
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>he can only win if he plays a CV

More reasons to nerf this overpowered class.
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>>170181443
agreed it's complete madness that they nerfed grozovoi. CV's are already insanely over powered vs DD's
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>Akizuki vs Akizuki duel
>their Akizuki is firing nothing but AP at your team's Bow on one and dealing 0 damage
>easy win
>Oh wait your Akizuki is turning broadside for no reason
>ded
>defeat

G A S
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>>170181443
CVs have no place in this game just like SPGs in WoT.
Skrub classes for autismos with social anxiety who don't have the gut to fight toe to toe with enemies.
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>>170182687
>Skrub classes for autismos with social anxiety who don't have the gut to fight toe to toe with enemies.
t. every single T10 ship.
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>>170182792
Wrong.
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>>170182792
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>>170182993
>>170183149
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>>170182792
not everyone at T10 is siniping_mako
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>>170182993
How often do you see cruisers not HE spamming from blue line? Or battleships not doing the same shit? The whole gayplay at T10 is ridiculous shit good only for autismos with social anxiety who don't have the gut to fight toe to toe with enemies
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>>170183273
I've had more games lately where people are willing to actually fight around the caps like it's a lower tier game.
It's been a nice change.
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>>170183273
Your shitty "argument" can be applied to any ship in the game, that does not make it overpowered and cancerous, like the IJN CVs.
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>>170183350
Good for you.
>>170183449
Carriers are only good for spotting and punishing out of position retards, they can't do anything against sane players. Balans is fine.
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Breddy fun.
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>tfw returning
>tfw there's finally clans
>tfw full

serves me right
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Friendly reminder to not give broadside to AP secondaries
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>>170184090
just start your own clan man.

Im pretty sure [KEK] isnt taken
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>>170184090
We'll have a spot open if you'r on NA very soon. If you're a regular player and want to play SL, contact somebody on the team.
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>>170187051
I'm on EU
>>170186854
I dont think there's enough people playing on EU to warrant 2 clans
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>>170185991
3 overpens from MB is a nice cherry on top of that screen
>>170187260
have you at least used code when you returned?
>>170187260
If [HOTEL] is full that means there is enough people for second clan
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How is the Edinburgh? Just researched her, haven't bought her yet tho
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>>170187451
I tried but I couldnt use the code cause my service level was too high
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>>170187451
>creating a clan costs 2500 shekelcoins
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>>170184090
There's nothing to do anyway. No clan modes coming soon. WG says they plan to increase the roster size on clans up to 100 players, so just wait for now.
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>>170187451
Not my point creating a 2nd clan. They have no functionality and they're getting expanded in the near future anyway.
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Is catapult fighter still worth taking over spotter plane?
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>>170191052
You can try to use it to snipe into smoke, since it is much easier to see where shells come from if you look from above.
Though on the other hand fighter has the ability to scare CV plons if you meet some, AND has lower CD. I say go with fighter
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>>170187791
Very fun in T5 battles, Manageable in T6, suffering in T7
Leander is where the RN line gets fun. Fiji is even better. You're almost there.
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>>170191052
hahahahaha
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>>170191052
On cruisers, fighter is still better since it still has the old duration.

On BBs, spotter plane is more useful in competitive modes (be it tourneys or ranked) just so you can shoot accurately at ships inside smoke. For random battles, I'd still take the fighter for those times where a CV is coming for you or whenever you NEED to go near an island with possible DDs hiding around.
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>>170192858
Anon, I think you meant the Emerald I was regarding on how the T8 Edinburgh is.
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>>170181151
That's some absolutely fine taste anon.
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Reminder if you only play CVs, you are on the lowest end of the autism spectrum.
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>>170180776
>Relying on playing an overpowered class just to feel like you're not a shitter anymore.

You're still a loser. 58% on Nagato? That's pretty shitty. You're not fooling anyone.
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>>170185991
Eric pop my cherry
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>>170187791
An actually good Fiji, with uber heal and guns seem to hit more consistently.
It's not as manouverable though.
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Don't fucking rush mid on two brothers.
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>>170197073
Ugh
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>>170197073
Never torp from second line, baDDie
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>>170197801
>implying this wasn't intentional
I gave them fair warning. I told them I would teamkill any fuck that rushed mid
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>>170198160
Warning: sharp edges
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>>170198160
dont cut yourself on that edge anon
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>>170181151
Definitely know that feeling.

Ryuujou & Taihou are my favorites in KC, WoWS, and SO and it requires Autism to play CV's In whatever game
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>>170198364
>>170198541

They wanted to play for fun
I just did what they were doing :^)
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>>170198654
You're not much better than the retards you feel authorized to mess with; if there's something as bad, if not worse than oblivious shitters, it's wanna be judge dredd types like yourself getting killed trying to punish them; if your team was disadvantaged, now it's doomed.
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>>170194058
It is Fiji with Uber heal and bow that doesn't get overmatched by 203mm guns,
In return you get shittier MM, due to constantly being fud for T10, and you start seeing radar on a very regular basis.
Basically it evens out. Though I think you also get even better AP on this tier.
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WENT HARD BODY KARATE THIS GAME
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>>170201510
>driving the shinyhorse
>no kraken, confederate or solo warrior

Pretty average match there, anon. You have to try better.
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>>170201960
>shinyhorse
when will newfags from reddit fuck right off?
jesus christ kill yourself
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>>170201510
It's a good bote.
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>>170201960
>>170202258


I'm a 42% WR player. For me this is a god-tier game lol

ive been working hard to get better because i hate letting my team down.
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>>170200289
I didn't want to play ring around the rosey or fight on a flank that was down two ships from the start.
Why are they allowed to have fun throwing the match but I can't have fun teamkilling them watching them bitch in chat?
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>>170202364
Nah man, you just have to become an asshole, no matter what you do no matter what happens you're in the right and the team is wrong.
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>>170202364
Work hard and do your best every match!
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>>170202403
This is the toxic behavior that ruins online games, the only thing teamkilling is going to do is make them screw up more. For all you knew those two could have won the match. You have done nothing but brand yourself a teamkiller and an asshole and risk a ban.
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>>170202548

I watch some really good twitch guys like generaldort and jeezums since I play BBs. I watch YT tutorials. I even got a guy from /wowsvg/ to look over my replays for me and I've already bought him a premium ship for his help.

I got my eye on the prize...45% WR....
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>>170202403
Both you and them are negatively affecting other teammates by acting retarded; i'm not apologizing them at all, though i've won plenty of seemingly unredeemable matches because i didn't let myself get too angered by that kind of shit.
Middle on Two Brothers is a valid tactic in late game though.
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>>170202905
I'd aim for 50% if I were you. Simply prioritize being alive by any means necessary the longest in every single match that you play, and you will suddenly notice a spike in your performance. After all, dead ships don't deal damage. ;)
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>>170202692
I sincerely doubt any brain dead idiot who wants to rush down the middle could win anything. Being pink doesn't really mean shit. Hell, it might make people listen more since they can see I'll do it.

>>170203116
I'm aware it's fine late game. The rest of the team was fucked regardless, all I could do was save myself.
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>>170202905
>jeezums
>45% wr
>mfw
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>>170202403
I bet you don't rush mid on Estuary, either.
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Someone teach me how to Yugumo please
The wiki says she makes a decent gunboat but I'm 100% sure it's alternative facts
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>>170203417

haha, that's a great compilation. the guy is a top notch BB player though
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>>170203630
Sell and buy the Fletcher instead.
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>>170203669
haha!
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>>170203669
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>>170202364
Keep it up anon, you can do it!
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>>170197073
great job pink, you are a fucking autist
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>>170203885
artist*
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>>170203885
>you are a fucking autist
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I see my comment earlier hurt g-d's feelings, heh
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>>170204083
serve your ban
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>>170203867

i mean, he's not generaldort or klattsberg, but he's 59% and doesn't play that much. I guess I'm a bit biased in liking the guy since I won a couple giveaways on his stream which was really cool.
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:^)
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>>170204030
>i go out of my way to inflict damage to teammates because they're doing something i don't like to see

stop hyperventilating, it's just a game
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>>170204154
Not banned, comment just was deleted was all, I just found it funny
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>>170204171
he's absolutely garbage and the fact that you have a 42% winrate and think he's good proves that
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>>170204272
you can't just say that to me
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>>170204287

k, you win.
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>>170204352
I guess if I had called you a nigger or a faggot instead of a **** it wouldn't have been deleted

Really makes you think
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>>170203389
If anything your team will think you're a whiny kid who demands to get his way.
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>>170204362
wow you really are a loser.
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I feel truly blessed.
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>>170205861
Wow... sick kill on the target exposing broadside.

Is that what you wanted to hear?
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>>170205956
u mad bro?
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>>170205956
How about the part where I bounced a salvo point blank.
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>>170205956
Oh yea, please stroke my ego some more sweetie ;^)
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>>170204083
>>170204272
What was it?
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>>170203674
Sadly I've come too far to give up now
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Just a reminder that this is the only modern Battleship class to take fire from another modern battleship and survive.

also most effective guns of any battleship design in history with regards to tonnage credited sunk

You CAN"T Compete
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>>170207321
>14 inch guns
laughing battleships.jpg
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>>170207434
WRONG
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>>170207321
I thought she once had her ass slapped by Bismarck.
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>>170207553
Look at all those overpenetrations.
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>>170207610
>>170207631
She survived ez and slapped bisco back. read a book nerdster
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>>170207553
Damn. That was some impressive and devastating gunfire from the Rodney.
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>>170207762
yea
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>>170207710
It wasn't PoW, read a book nigger.
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>>170207837
Unlike those 14 inch cap guns on the KGV.
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>>170207968
Prince nailed bisco several times as she closed and then as she retrated. still had no problems doing it because of superior anglo class A cemented stahl
>>170207972
several of those hit's on the 350mm conning tower were 14in. uh git gud lololol
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>>170208190
since when did barges get guns that big? Cool photo
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>BEADY eyed anglo starting shit for no reason again
This is even worse than discord shitposting.
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>These are your teammates
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>>170208430
How could unarmed fishing Trawlers maintain a 2/3 K/D against the might of an entire soviet navy?

Sometimes things just are, for reasons beyond our control or understanding.
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whats the best non-premium tier 8 cruiser
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>>170208430
>>170208458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37w7BUxTRuQ
I have blond hair and blue eyes I'm a true anglo unlike the dark brooding germans who according to the romans raped their own sisters and were incapable of writing. Meanwhile we we the most educated in Europe and created the greatest latin texts of the period. stay mad darkie
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>>170204247
>>i go out of my way
No, teammates go out of THEIR way to block shells/torps so they can killsteal. Do you even play this game ?
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>>170208769
Depends on how you use it. I personally like Hipper.
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>>170207321
Since the definition of modern battleship changes depending on who says it, South Dakota Class > King George V Class.
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>>170208769
Check wows numbers or warships today.
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>>170208835
only time the sodak was ever in a battle it's electricity shut off due to retardation and she got riggisdy rekt then did nothing for the rest of the war.

Norcal did nothing the entire war but shell beaches and get medals while getting nailed by stray torpedo's

Your navy's a joke kid. Your navy's a joke kid
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>>170208835

I can't wait for the SoDak premo ship.

This goyim can't wait to fork over 50$.
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>>170208835
Washington>South Dakota
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>>170209007

NC 15 had 15 battlestars... you'r a stupidhead

also

brit cuck detected, get your fleet's capital ship literally blown out of the water by the bismarck again.


>>170209074
Washington is based. Everyone always jerks off Jap optics and rangefingers, then Washington BTFO'd japs in shell to shell combat.
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>>170209007
>Duke of York sinks Scharnhorst
>Rodney and PoW sink Bismarck
>West Virginia + battleline sink Yamashiro
>Washington sinks Kirishima

looks about equal senpai
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>>170209279

remember when Rodney and PoW attempted to go fight in the pacific?


inferior garbo-tier ships
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>>170209016

>wanting a raised citadel

y
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>10 battles a day average over two weeks
>Had nothing but defeats for two weeks

Anyone looking for a defeat should team up with me because that's all I seem to be getting lately
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>>170209074
oh boy the ship that managed to kill an ancient battlecruiser from 1911 and failed to hit point blank several ijn destroyers with her 16in guns
>>170209279
>pre-ww1 battlecruisers are equivalent to modern ww2 battleships
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>>170209394

not Rodney, Repulse

MB
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>>170208815
How come I always hear about these ridiculous things from /wowsg/ pros but never from super unicums? Holy shit dude, it's a VIDEO GAME.
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>>170209450
But Washington also sank a Jap destroyer in that battle with her secondaries?
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Reminder that Mutsu is not a battleship, but a practice target.
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>>170209394
>>170209475
Sorry we didn't hide out Battleships behind our carriers like cowards dude XD
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>>170209007
>forgets the disaster of Taskforce Z, and the end of british operations in the pacific
>only mentions two battleships
Your argument is the real joke here
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>>170209593
yea she literally had to rely on fucking secondary memes while missing every shit with her 16's garbage murricuck gunnery
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Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>170209632
Sorry you like to waste valuable steel and lose lots of manpower dude, "rawr XD"
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>>170209632

i know sending two ships with large displacement with no escorts into uncharted/scouted waters is BAD ASS.


>then a couple slopes drop sushi down your smokestacks
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>>170209759
I'm sorry that you need to rely on carrier cancer to hide behind kid. sorry we had to do all the heavy lifting like destroying the entire german navy by ourselves by 1942 and that it still harms your feelings lol
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>>170209778
She absolutely destroyed Kirishima with her 16s, the fuck you talkin about?
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>>170209950
>>170209959

you sound afraid dude

remember that time you lost to the japanese for a year and a half straight until we came in with our superior anglo spirit and the guidance of g-d
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>>170209967
>the entire German Navy
>a bunch of subcucks that you needed American ships to sink
>4 battleships, two of which are actually battlecruisers
>a small number of terrible destroyers and cruisers, one of which was sunk by a 40 year old torpedo in a fjord by Norwegians

Yeah man, good job.
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>>170210127
are you illiterate?

are you?
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>>170209967
>like destroying babby's first navy
The Germans were useless, you'd have to be embarrassingly bad to lose anything to them.
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>>170210157

hmmmmmm, what britcuck ships were present at Midway where we snapped the jap's spine?

ohh yeah, none

but we had the all time naval commander dream team of nimitz-spruance-fletcher, which was more than enough


>we destroyed the wrong shitty island's fleet/cities in ww2, we should have nuked GB
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>>170210157
>Americans lost for a year straight
Are you being retarded on purpose?
>Doolittle raid
>Guadalcanal
>Coral Sea
>Midway
>Solomon islands
All US victories within a year of Dec. 7.
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>>170210157
>until we came in
until who came it? that target practice for IJN bombers?
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>>170210405
>there will never be an alternate timeline where the US and Japs team up to carve Yurop's empires up between them
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>>170210278

the german navy was non existant by 1942. US was only concerned with protecting themselves and losing to the japanese at the time. stay bootyflustered

>>170210307
>>170210416
>>170210408

so kinda like how you lost to the japanese relentlessly despite having a 17 times larger economy

>>170210405
trash commaanders who had to wait for and relied entirely on having a massive economic advantage
>>
>ITT: Britcucks defend inferior naval strategy
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>>170210587
btfo ameriboo's can't recover
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>>170210587
The IJN had a larger force in the Pacific when they started losing every battle though, the burger's economic advantage was all devoted to trying to save the bong's empire from falling apart to begin with
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>>170210587

we won Midway with 3 fleet carriers to their 4 fleet carriers, destroying all 4 and losing 1.

man, you brit cucks really have nothing on the USN. it must suck to be surpassed by people that left your shitty island.
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>>170210587
Stop avatar-fagging.
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>>170210692
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Navy_losses_in_World_War_II

btfo
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>>170210587
>Expecting america to produce a massive navy out of fucking nowhere while desperately trying to keep the british empire afloat a little bit longer
Definitely dropped on head as child you were.
>>
Either this place has a lot of newfags, or /wowsg/ really is stupid enough to be regularly baited by maho shitposting.
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>>170210740
>>170210990
>>170210772


>i-i-i-i-i-it wansn't out 17 times larger economy
you say this despite producing like 40 fletchers a minute and 2 essex class carriers and an uncountable number of cruisers. I'm sorry FDR was literally the worst war fighter in history. still proof of myurricam inferiority
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>people in this thread haven't read shattered sword
please never comment on the battle of midway again
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>>170209450
Shut up Neo

>>170209632
>We don't like air support for our BBs

Yea, you paid the price for that arrogant move as well

Oh by the way there was supposed to be a CV with PoW and Repluse, but they beached themselves off the coast of India kek
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>>170211281
Stop avatar-fagging
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>>170211308
raptor
>>170211314
no
>>170211314
>w-w-w-w-we werent cowards I swer
battle cruiser Iowa was the most cowardlyship of the war. perfect symbol for you americanns

just a reminder australia won vietnam for america
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>>170210526
You are looking for the timeline where the US joins the Axis instead of the Limeys and Frogs.
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>>170211281
Satania has regular intercourse with fat old men.
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>>170211536
>implying I give a shit about Germany or Italy
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>>170211281
Its not like the rest of the world fared much better at the start of the war either.
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>>170211575
>Satania has regular intercourse with fat old dogs.
Fixed,
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>>170211601
They were Japan's allies at the time, you get the whole package deal here

>>170211486
>implying anyone won Vietnam but a bunch of rice farmers

All of my keks
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>>170211575
>>170211684
it's to bad that you have a young skinny dick and lanket arms and belly then huh
>>170211643
I don't understand your fictional map. do you have the tism
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>>170211813
>All of my keks
holy shit all of my tears KEK do they not teach you hisdtory over there. Your fuckin retarded kid retarded
>>
Even SEAposting is better than this.
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>>170211314
>they beached themselves off the coast of India
Murrilard education, everyone.

>>170211486
>Vietnam War
>America
>won
You can't put the three together
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>>170212000
Ching chong ping pong, weady tu frite agin white pigu?
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>>170212349
>>170212441

You litteraly have no idea what the paris peace accords where do you. Holy fuck you murricucks have been sucked into the libcuck mythology
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>>170211486
Who the fuck cares about battleships when you have a million airdropped bombs.
>US carriers sunk more fighting ships ships than the whole royal navy
>Butthurt britcucks
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>>170212515
>oh noes we must prop up muh dominoez!!11!
>dominoes fall
That's a loss my dude
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>>170212608
Don't forget we made them sign a treaty taking most of their fleet out of action or to the scrape yard as well :^)

Fags just mad cause they will never rule those waves ever again
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>>170212515
>>170212776
I bet these homo's think nixon was wrong for bombing cambodia despite losing 2000 men every 2 weeks in the first days of his presidency due to the NVA sitting 3 divisions in cambodia only 30 miles from saigon

the war was never lost vietnam was lost by libcucks cutting off weapons and amunition via congress
>>170212608
>our navy which was by law 2-3 times larger than yours fighting another larger navy had more kills but similar losses
>I'm aslo going to selectively ignore the 17 times larger economy bit
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never forget
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>>170212838
You sound really upset needing to samefag dude
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Britcucks will attempt to defeat this.
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>>170213283
You literally couldn't beat our turtle strats
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>>170213283
>modern RN
>Queen Elizabeth class carrier
>"""supercarrier""" with a cuckramp
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>>170213487
>americums will be forved to use 4th gen f-18 hornets into the 2050's.
>UK will be a pure upgraded F-35 fleet.
stay mad
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>>170213202
Same could be said about you lad, just waiting for you to spill all your Iowa memes atm
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>>170213694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RyxBq5Cm4
u mad?WTF
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>>170213662
>F-35
>Upgrade

You guys still haven't figured out we sold you top of the line junk have you?

>[Proceeds to make F-22s again along with Naval versions this time]

Have fun with your new plons :^)
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>>170213946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtZNBkKdO5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyHlp7tJrxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31oJIo8EVwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s7-3EUXC_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwh-1jRGuDc

I can see that our participation in the greatest aircraft made has caused some jealousy
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>>170213002
>I haven't ignored the 17 times larger economy you autist, I said a few posts ago that the US was busy at the time propping up the rest of the world
>and if you're trying to say that the US should have built BB's instead of CV's you will prove yourself to be 100% wrong

>Germany
>Larger Navy
??? But the US outnumbered and outgunned the Germans since the end of WW1
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>>170214724
Who are you quoting, aspie lol
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>>170214802
???
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>>170213002
>another larger navy
Larger than who? The USN and IJN both were larger than the KM
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>>170214981
Holy shit dude how flustered are you right now inb4 some panicked projecting before you run away
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>>170215152
???
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>>170215152
You are one of the many reasons this general is going to shit
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>>170215070
Your reading comprehension over there is inexistent huh?
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>>170215356
No, he clearly doesn't read autistic rage.
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>>170215570
way to move the goal poasts dudester. #wosted
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Did what I could
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>>170215330
all me
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>>170215671
I know, I put them a bit farther back, I hope you can still hit them.
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>>170215814
Glade me could agree on something :^)
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>>170215796
nice blog. keep me posted @w/Precisionista
>>170215951
all day
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>>170216061
Don't worry bud, I'll stop feeding your autism now so you can take your meds.
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>>170216204
you sound incredibly upset dude, wtf
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>>170216295
Stop avatarfagging.
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>>170216030
The fuck is wrong with you're spelling HP you french fuck
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>>170216394
I don't avatarfag or shitpost. Read the rules newfag. stop memespouting, lol
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>>170216565
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>170216698
I don't shitpost
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>>170216394
>>170216565
>>170216698
>>170216805

Jesus christ, quit replying to yourself.
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>>170216805
That's my line! Give it back!
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>>170216889
>>170216983
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>when there hasn't been a single game-related discussion in nearly 200 posts
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>>170216420
>you're

>Says my spelling is bad

kek
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>>170217430
Oh so it was the frechman who pretends to be a jew. Stop Now. your being disrespectful
>>
>>170217405
go play DnD boog you fucking nerd
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>>170217537
Stop persecuting me please, thanks
>>
>>170215356

cute barefeet. love how she's curling her toes.
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>>170203630
You get F3 torps, that commander skill that reduces torp reload by 10%, threemillion module that reduces torp cooldown by another 15% and finally adrenaline rush. Don't get fooled by retards that play Yuugumo like a gunboat, you have extreme torps and you can get cooldown on those torps down to less than 60 seconds basically turning Yuugumo into turbo-pre-nerf-Minekaze-on-steroids.
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Does hull B make it even better ?
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Arizona makes me happy, good and reliable
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>>170219942
Yes

>>170220457
She is pretty comfy
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>>170204215

Listen here motherfucker.
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>>170204215
>>>/ck/
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>>170223624
I don't get it.
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>>170223624
>that QT tenryu
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>>170223953
>did better than Iowa, Atago, and Hipper
ayyyyy
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>>170223624
>Zao
>Not 1st
>No Kraken
>No Arsonist
Get good, Raptor.
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>>170223784
>newfags
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>>170225140
>watching kids shows

whos the newfag here again?
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>>170223624
I'm guessing you posted the results screen because someone else got the kill on him?
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>>170226827
>>170227056
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hotel a fat

faaaaaaaaaaaat
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>>170229060
REMOVE [ZEON] SCUM.
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>>170229060
Wow rude
tfw that loss
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>>170229060
Rude.

Hotel a healthiest.
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>>170229551
>>170229534
That should have been a draw or a loss. That was way too fucking close for comfort.
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>>170230062
>that last second where the points were tied
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>>170229534
Sieg Zeon Feddie scum!

Daily reminder Gihren did nothing wrong
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>>170231496
"No."
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>>170231915
I bet you think the Titans was a noble organization with the best interest of Spacenoids at heart? Fuck the Earth Federation
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We're approaching zero hour
Do I buy Permacamo for Kiev? Will I like her at her new tier? Will I like her replacement?
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>>170232264
I bet you think Zeon gassing entire colonies with billions of fellow spacenoids was a noble act with the best interest of Spacenoids at heart? Fuck Zeon, fuck the Zabis, fuck Quatro Bajeena and fuck Char.
>>
>>170232456
I seem to remember the Federation gassing far more than Zeon ever did, not to mention the Federation altering the course of the colony headed for Jaburo toward a major population center instead of say the middle of the ocean.

All we want is our freedom and a right to forge our own destiny, but you (((Feddies))) will fight us to no end, one day we will gain our independence!
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so what do you think the US cruiser line will look like after the rework?
here's what I think:
>I_______________________Erie_________________________
>_________________________|__________________________
>II_____________________Chester_______________________
>_________________________|__________________________
>III__________________St. Louis (C-20)___________________
>_________________________|__________________________
>IV____________________Phoenix_______________________
>_________________________|__________________________
>V_____________________Omaha----------------------___________
>_________________________| ______________|___________
>VI___________________Northampton______Brooklyn_______
>_________________________|_______________|___________
>VII___________________Pensacola_____ St. Louis (CL-49)__
__________________________|_______________|___________
>VIII_______Wichita--------New Orleans_____ Cleveland______
_____________|----------_______|_______________|___________
_____________|______\______|_______________|___________
_____________|_______----------|_______________|___________
>IX_______Oregon------------Baltimore_________Fargo_________
_____________|_____________|_______________|___________
>X_____ Buffalo (CA-B)__ Des Moines____ Worcester_______
I did have more ships in this tree, but the more i looked into it the more heavy cruisers and design studies i found, and then i thought, i should add the Battlecruiser line and then i realize i've been at this for about an hour or two, so i thinned the tree down, moved some ships back to their original places and decided to go with this for now. so i will look into this more latter and post a much better tree in a week or so.
P.S. fucking 4chan deleted all the spaces in between so i had to re-post will all the fucking underscores
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>>170234129
I miss the aircraft tab being on non-CVs
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>>170208615
Kamchatka could give the William D. Porter a run for her money as a Failboat Supreme.
>>
No matter how many times I o7 someone from KNTAI they have no idea who cruiser_oakland is, whats his deal, is he anti social?
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At least I got a kill right? One of those clear skies but my team cant do shit evolutions.
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>>170234973
no matter how many times we tell tioga to kill himself, he comes back
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>>170235158
can't kill what's already dead (inside) bitch
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>>170235824
you're not me.
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>>170235824
>>170236025
Stop pretending to be me

t. The real Tioga
>>
Hey is it possible to get and redeem a referral code if you already played a bit? NA server
>>
THERE IS A BUG IN THE CLIENT

YOU CAN DEMOUNT UPGRADES FOR FREE
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>>170236516
If your account level is too high you are fucked, and it only works if you didnt log in for half a year or so.
>>
>>170234129
>Three cruisers per tier
They do two non-premiums at most. Its not cost efficient (coding time/shekels) to do more.
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>>170232379
>Do I buy Permacamo for Kiev?
I wouldnt, you never know if she will be suprise nerfed.
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>>170209950
>>170210692
>>170210990
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>>170240146
there are other design studies that i think could possibly fit in at tier X
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>>170240269
A Brit talking about museums when they barely preserved any of their own ships?
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>>170240146
Aren't they already planning a 3rd RU DD line split?
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>>170234129
Brooklyn out be OP as fuck at Tier VI.
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>>170240485
Yes, and it makes zero fucking sense because they could've easily put those ships into the 2nd RU DD line.
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>>170240523
balance)))))))))) + a large citadel could make it fit.
other wise i would ask what you would put at tier 6 considering the Cleveland was confirmed for tier 8
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>>170240458
>Brit
????????
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>>170240597
can you show me where they said that?
i'm not doubting you i just can't find anything that says that
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>>170240458
>A Brit
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>>170240942
>>170241057
Sorry i meant a mexican rapist!!!
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>>170204215
>>170241846
nice one dipshit
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>>170241875

Let us have our running meme you asshole!
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>>170241846
>literally editing the image so that it would get by the dupe detector
Anu pls.
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>>170241915

I will post my Ramen ducks. Gyudon poster shall not stop me.
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every time i see one of this one anime girl in a picture the post next to it sucks ass, what gives?
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>>170241993
>facebook file name
dude lmao I was actually right holy hell
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what the fuck
is this normal?
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i'm disappointed dess
i would rather have 750 free exp over this shit
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>>170242335
still better than one of the shitty "secret" modules
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>tfw someone in the /wows/ group is litterally dying
>tfw couldn't be happier
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>>170242598
Is it Raptor? Please say it's Raptor.
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>>170242678
Nope, its one of the old WoTg posters.
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>>170242731
RIP chain
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>>170242774
Thankfully it's not chain or any of the sane members of NTR.
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Is it bad that I find this challenge difficult? I read the comments on plebbit and everyone says it's easy as shit (everyone besides me I guess)
>>
>>170243882
You know it ends next month, right?
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>>170243882
Anon, you have 26 days left. I am pretty sure you are fine
>>
>>170243882
you find playing the game difficult?

me too
>>
>KG V gets added at t8
>can't overmatch even cruisers of same tier.
This either will be extremely sad, or WG will give brits some silly bonuses
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>Ocean is still in rotation.
>>
>Join random TIER 3/4 battle in a Kawachi
>team charges full ahead once the game begins
>2/3rds of my team die before I even fire my first shot
>everyone except 2 carriers and me are dead before I fire the second volley
>I make the only kill of the game

Why is shit like that even allowed?
I get retarded teams like 9/10 times, just charging full ahead. Yesterday I got teamkilled twice by destroyers who thought it would be good to fire torpedoes directly in front of me.

How can players that shit even install a game.
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>>170245163
I haven't played ocean in months. I (almost) miss it
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>>170246081
It's at high tiers, 8-10 and it's still awful if you're a cruiser.
>>
Omaha: B hull or C hull? I'm just trying to grind to get the cleveland but it looks like i'm going to be stuck in the omaha for a few more weeks at the very least
>>
PATCH IS OUT
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>>170247182
oh shit lol i didn't even know it was today
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>tfw SEA is half ded
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>>170249282
Come over to EU, we're still going strong.
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>>170250183
But we on EU have no place in clan, and nodody ever visits chat
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>>170250321
It's fine, soon(tm) soviet russians will expand clan size cap to accommodate more anons into the esteemed HOTEL.
>>
SACRE BLEU
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>>170250516
>cruisers
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>>170250516
UNexpected!!!11
What a twist! I am honestly shocked
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>>170250516
Nani kore?!
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>>170250516
GOOD SHIT
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>>170250516
Will St Louis be the best cruiser of two different tiers now?
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>>170250773
Yes. Because powercreep. And when USN cruiser split happens we will get MORE St. Louis
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>>170250516
Notice that the t6 and t8 onwards have triple gun turrets, while the t7 only has a dual gun turret. How peculiar...
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>>170250773
>best t3 cruiser
>not Bogatyr
are you playing russki game or what?
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>>170250516
>RN BaBBies go ballistic in 3... 2... 1...
>>
>Algerie
>T8
>8 guns like Hipper
>136kg shells at 840m/s
Sounds not bad in general actually.
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>>170251471
Hipper is a dogshit tier 8 though?
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>>170251546
No that would be Mogami.
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>>170251546
You what?
>>
>>170251591
Buffed with IFHE :^)
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>>170242431
Got a fucking spotter plane duration increase module the other day.
Needles to say i was very disappointed.
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>>170250516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPiaJc3hjco
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>>170250516
>No Duquesne class
Shit/10
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>>170250516
Wtf!? They should finish out the RN line first! Where is my Nelson damn it!

Fuck you WG

Enjoy your dying game lads

Bloody Frogs
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>>170251471
It will come with smoke and spotter plane )))))
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>mfw bongs get btfo yet again
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>Jurien de la Graviere
>Duguay-Trouin
>la Galissonniere
how to pronounce this shit?
and you say russian names are difficult
>>
>>170253549

I told you guys weeks ago that French CL's will come out first, with RN BB;s coming out later this year, around Sept/Oct.
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>>170253816
>amerifat unable to pronounce French
Top kek.
>>
I am uncomfortably aroused by those curves.
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>>170253919
Amerifats can't pronounce Russian either, your point?
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So TTKs who reach 19 points will contribute to free ttk xp pool?

TL note
TTK means captain
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>>170254393
Yes.
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>>170254007
>X Henri IV

WELL WHICH ONE IS IT WARGAMING?!?!?!
>>
I just got off the phone with Tioga and I don't see anything wrong with him, I don't know why you guys hate him so much
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>>170240269
She was preserved in more ways than one anon, and do you really think such great warships deserve to be tied up in a port the rest of their lives rather than sailing about?
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>>170255291
Sure thing Not-Tioga

Your so awful you have to pretend people like you, pathetic
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>>170254007

>looks like a mini Dunkek

Nice
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My favorite ship was buffed. I just fill power of soviet leader. I would kancolle Khabarosk. she will be my wife.
>>
FRENCH CRUISER HYPE

JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL
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>>170256187
Anon, you are late by 2 hours.
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>>170256187

I wonder what the Patrie is? Far right, I wonder what Ship that will be? Prem?
>>
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Uw5NJu5Thx

Is it right pronoun french ships names?
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>>170254393
ttk actually means admiral, you kuso.
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>>170254509

That picture stirs my loins anon.
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>>170257339
Slavshit pls.
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>>170258471
I'm glad I could help make you excited, anon.
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I want to a Suzuya.
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>>170240485
Yes, they will put every armed pre 1950 Russian ship that existed into the game. But filthy capitalist ships wont get such preferential treatment.
>>
what will the french line be like? What were their characteristics?

I hope they aren't as fail as the RN CLs
>>
So now that Grozovoi has worse HE than every VMF boat from T5+ question is, what is the point of that boat?
When it had 1800 alpha it was an interesting tradeof DPM for alpha. But now????
>>170260079
T6 (7?) + are heavy cruisers so they should be pretty standard heavy cruiser line, unless WG gives them something ridiculous
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>>170259172

Ice cream?
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>>170260079
Paper armor, fasd, with very fast cruise speeds, thereby making them quite economical from a fuel perspective during normal non-battle operations.
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>>170260079
For example. T7 guns have better muzzle energy than IJN/USN guns of same tier. (and up until Zao, because those guns are BS and shouldn't exist in game) So unless WG gives them Krupp value of a stale baguette, Frenchies could have pretty good pen
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>>170260205
I would cream inside her.
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>>170260554
Well, France hasn't rubbed Russia the wrong way recently right?

I noticed that with Trump taking office and friendlier relations with the Russians, USN ships are receiving their much needed buffs and corrections.
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Why are 1/2 of the French CL/CA's Paper ships? France has more than enough real ships to make a full 10 ship tree.
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>>170261142
What about your varriets?
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>>170261142
3 actually. T3 is also paper.
Okay, what heavy cruiser would you put at T9/10
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>>170260764
>USN ships are receiving their much needed buffs and corrections.
i agree, but Pensa is still the worst t7 cruiser. Or is there new data I missed ?
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>>170260764
I for one welcome the new Russo-American Alliance
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>>170261721
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>>170258471
>>170258908
>>170259172
>>170260583
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>>170261721
>>170261790
Reminder that Obama wanted to restart relations with Russia. And Bush before him IIRC. If course this time it will be different
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>>170261959
>MykindofAmerican-russianrelationship hasneverbeentriedbefore.png
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>>170261959
>Obama
>Wanting to restart relations with Russia

Is that why he antagonized Russia and Putin over the last few years? Also his Secretary of State ran an election platform that involved going to war with Russia.

But your post really made me think

But of course Bush Jr and Putin were total bros
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>>>/pol/
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>You will never have a steak dinner with Russian and American sailors while Donald Trump and Putin give rousing speeches on Big E.

RU/NA Alliance to rule the world when?
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>>170262539
Got something else to discuss related to the thread? I suggest you get on that, otherwise we will talk about all sorts of random shit out of boredom
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>>170262731
US/RU Mars colonies when?
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>>170262972
Not soon enough for my tastes
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New Orleans is shit
A FUCKIGN AWFUL USELESS PIECE OF JUNK FLOATING TURD
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>>170260764
It depends on results of France election. If Le Pen will be elected, MN cruisers will get last seconds buff that gives them KM levels of damage per AP shell
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>>170263248
Yeah, never grew to like it either. I didn't outright hated it, but wasn't in love either.
Unlike Bmore
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>>170250516
>Cruisers
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>>170263248
>>170263418
fags
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>>170263671
You get what you get

t. Waiting forever for any Pasta botes to be in game
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>>170263785
But trashkan is already in game!
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>>170263973
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>>170262731
Fuck off globalist
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>>170264396
You need to look in the mirror anon, you will see the true face of a Globalist
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>>170264396

Are you from Cyprus and/or Russia? Do you play WoWs? Have you ever spent a dime in WoWs? Is every single good in your house, and the components they are made out of made in your country of origin (and American made car may use components manufactured in china such as the computer/electronics)? Cause take a guess on where on the 'globalist' side you actually are.
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French line FTW
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this one looks really modern for a t3
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>>170264830
>>170264958
Since when free market equals globalism, you fucking retards?
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>>170265409

It doesn't if the free market you spend money in is exclusively carrying and pervading goods produced solely in that country, but the monent you purchase goods, or move goods, or construct a good that requires the input, components, and/or transportation through another country, you have entered the realm of globalism. Put another way: The US Amish groups are free market but not globalism. You playing a game on PC where half the parts are made in China, and the other half in Japan, and you buying it in EU/NA, makes you a globalist.
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>>170265381

Cause it's fake.
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>>170265175
I too enjoy browsing reddit
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>There are people in this thread who don't want an Earth united under a single flag and common goal
>There are people in this thread who would rather waste all of our resources over petty bickering between fellow humans.
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Will French cruisers be more fun to play than the RN cruisers?


>>170265942
Fuck off NWO shill
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>>170265381
That is on the same Tier as the Kolberg? Wtf?
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>>170265942

Only if it's united under a Philosopher king. A Democracy is just international squabbling made into law and where wars are (usually) just trade deputes.
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>>170265942
>I want only one line in world of spaceships
Fuck off, the more unique nations there are on this shitty mudball the better.
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>>170266039
>Will French cruisers be more fun to play than the RN cruisers?

Literally how the fuck would anyone here know that? They aren't even on the ST server.
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For those interested, TAP has more pics than the NA blog does of the new CL/CA's:

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/03/06/wows-pictures-of-the-french-cruisers/
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>>170266140
>They aren't even on the ST server.
%%Models are already in ST client though%%
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>>170266052
The only true answer, your welcome


>>170266140
There must be some predictions to what their play style will be? I am worried they will have terrible armor profiles, worse than usual for CA's.
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>>170265942
We tried to do it twice and people didnt like it for some reason.

Personally i blame the italians for this
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>>170266275
Thats a big T1.
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>>170266362
For you
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>>170266362
U U
U U
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>>170266130
>Instead of a single line of FTL Super Star Destroyers I would rather have multiple lines of shitty soyuz/apollo derivatives.
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>>170266362
Pour toi.
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>>170266317
>There must be some predictions to what their play style will be? I am worried they will have terrible armor profiles, worse than usual for CA's.

Well shit look it up yourself. Overall, at least what we know of non-paper French CL/CA's is paper thin Armor. Only the Algeres had, I believe, only about 120mm max, which is a little higher than most CA's, but probably not enough to make a difference. Gut says it'll be repeat of the US Cruiser tree.
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>>170266317
Saint Louis was planned to have 230mm belt. Early tiers probably going to be gotta go fast with paper armour while high tiers would have extreme armour for a cruiser.
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>>170266623
I unironically like the US Cruiser tree
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>>170265630
Free market as in an international market=/=globalism

We're talking about two different layers which overlaps in many instances
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>>170261959
Bush was already hanging out with Putin

>You will never go boteing/fishing with the leaders of nuclear nations
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>>170266623
>Only the Algeres
La Galissonnière had respectable 105mm belt.
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>>170266907
>You will never show off your ranch and ride around with a fellow Nuclear Power Leader

Feels bad man
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>>170267221
>You will never play dress up and visit foreign countries together with your fellow world leader
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>>170267324
It hurts ;_;
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>>170267324
>Both sides security teams in place waiting for the key-word to be casually slipped into conversation that triggers the order of the instant execution of the other leader.
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>>170267519
Replace Bush Jr with Obama and your statement is probably true
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>>170266907
>>170261959
>>170262317
>bros
Yet, that didn't stop Bush from expanding NATO to include 7 ex-soviet satellites right on Russia's doorstep. This is what caused Russo-American relationships to deteriorate even further to its current point. The Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine situations were not caused by Obama provoking Putin, but by the Clinton and Bush administrations getting cocky after "winning" the Cold War.
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Sorry to intrude on the riveting discussion on American/Russian relations, but I just played a game in the Katori. Holy shit does it suck. Without any mods its top speed is only 17.8 kts.
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>>170267831
You say that as if there is a mod to make it go faster.
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>>170267829
It was a "Complicated" relationship, we all know this, however it looked like Bush Jr and Putin liked being around each other, regardless of what their governments were doing at the time.

>>170267831
>Hey this use to be a T1 bote
>Now it's at T3
>It sucks even more now

Really makes you think
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>>170267831
>Without any mods its top speed is only 17.8 kts.
That's pretty much the average speed at those tiers though if you don't count DDs
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>>170254007
This bote is well worth a premium account purchase.
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>>170267831
Almost 19 knots with a speed flag.

Definitely not a top performer, but still pretty good for taking out once in a while for simple pre-war bote fun. I find the super accurate 2x2 gun setup to be quite fun (but then again I also like playing Yubari), and the silly catapult fighter at T3 is just cute.
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>>170268195
>Tenryu: 32.5
>St. Louis: 22
>Bogatyr: 24
>Kolberg: 27
>Caledon: 29

>average speed: 18

what did he mean by this
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Budyonny is supposed to take IFHE right?
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Thinking about getting rank 1 for bragging purposes.

Do I play Belfast or Fiji to reach rank 1 fastest?
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>>170269295
Play Belfast for the full on cancer experience :^)
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>>170269380
I heard Fiji is just as good?
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>>170267685
That's what I always think could happen when "Leaders of the world meet up LIVE!"
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>>170269295
Indianapolis :^)
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>>170269435
>Fiji

No HE((((((((((((((

Can't remember Tsushima with AP(((((((((((((((((
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>>170269550
Fijilover here

Fiji is fine, there's always some retard who's broadsiding that you can pound into paper mache.
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>>170267831
That thing also seems to farm fires like no tomorrow.

I really like her, tee bee aych.
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>>170267018
>La Galissonnière had respectable 105mm belt.

This is only respectable if you forget the Cleveland also at 6 has 125mm. One more reason to let the Cleveland suffer her unrealistic turret rotation and fire archs.

>>170266817
>We're talking about two different layers which overlaps in many instances

You mean in ALL instances. Globalism is the world acting as a single cohesive machine on both a market/ecomomic and socio poliical basis. If you buy a computer in England, but the Computer was assembled in England, but the components were manufactured (and themselves, assembled, as a chipset is itself made up of components seldom made by the manufacturer of the chipset itself, i.e. Nvida buys Silicon wafers from another company) in China, Japan, the US, and Taiwan, you are participating in and encouraging globalism. Trade deals to allow the import of the parts to England have to be negotiated, which is globalism. Within Japan, they have to negotiate traded deals to get some of the raw materials of the components they then send to England. Perhaps some of the Engineers in the Japanese plant are from other countries and likely come from a nation (US) that has emigration and working treaties to allow this without needing Visa's/Citizenship. You then have agreements of the nations and private/public companies that then either Fly or Ship at Sea the parts around the world, allowing use of airspace and/or policing the sea to ensure safe trade.

You may not *like* the idea of Globalism, as you are entitled to, but short of being Ted Kaczynski or the Amish you if you buy, essentially, anything, and I mean anything (as component parts and/or raw materials are rarely from the country that finally assembles the final product, for example you may only eat domestic beef, but where did the feed come from? or nuematic gun used to kill it, or the steel USED in the nuematic gun), you are taking part in the global economy and thus encouraging to a wide degree, Globalism.
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>>170269295
Its suprisingly easy to get high caliber with Fijii in ranked games.

Your biggest bane is torpedoes which force you out of smoke.

>>170269265
I always take CE first on a cruiser.

If you hit 14 points then sure, get IFHE.
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>>170270880
Cleave explodes instantly the moment anything looks at it despite it's supposedly good armor so it's not a good comparison. Donskoy at T9 has even less armour then both. Only complete retard would call La Galissonnière armour paper thin.
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>>170272073

The Budy has 115mm. And it doesn't "explode" on contact either. At best, the LG will be 3rd in tankiness, and it's light weight will mean it will have much lower HP (which is the Cleve's biggest advantage) than other T6. Comparing it to a T9 is suspect as they can't see each other. You compare results at Tier.
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>>170246773
C hull, it gives you extra range.
My stats are shit in Omaha because I didn't realise this at the time and struggled throught the B hull.

>>170256158
>>170257339
Nice to see you Lewis. To be honest, those pronunciations are shit. I can't describe how to say them all correctly, but as a general rule, the last letter of French words is not pronounced.

>>170263973
Not to mention Kirov and Molotov.

>>170267831
It's 18.1 kn you shitstain. The real stand-out stat is her fantastic range. The only way to play Katori is to spam HE from behind your BBs.
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>77 French ships scuttled
>12 killed and 26 wounded French sailors
>French Success
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>>170273764
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>>170273764
France successfully managed to outscuttle scuttle never sunk navy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g ;_;7
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>>170273764

?

The goal was to destroy their navy before the Germans got to it. They succeeded.
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>>170275328

What I don't get, is it takes longer to scuttle than to put to sea. And the Location of Toulon (and when it happened), there wasn't really any navy in the area that would have stopped them from running. Why destroy the ships when you could just inter them somewhere else or, god forbid, fight the Axis?
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>>170270880
Again, the strict concept of Globalism is a very different concept from international economic relationships; globalism in some way implies global market and viceversa; nonetheless, one of the two (a somewhat unregulated international market) can be put in place with few or no globalist agenda, whereas globalism is strongly tied with a global unregulated market.
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>>170275596
>Again, the strict concept of Globalism is a very different concept from international economic relationships

glob·al·ism
ˈɡlōbəlizəm/
noun
noun: globalism

the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.
"millions have lost jobs to the new globalism"

-Oxford Dictionary
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>>170275328
And most that didn't get destroyed w as latter sunk by their allies, the British
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>>170275468

>>>Under armistice provisions, the French ships were supposed to have their fuel tanks almost empty; in fact, through falsification of reports and tampering with gauges, the crews had managed to store enough fuel to reach North Africa. One of the cruisers, Jean de Vienne, was in drydock, helpless. After the remnants of the French Army were required by the Germans to disband, French sailors had to man coastal defense artillery and anti-aircraft guns themselves, which made it impossible to swiftly gather the crews and have the ships quickly under way.

>>>Vichy military authorities lived in fear of a coup de main organised by the British or by the Free French. The population of Toulon was in the main favourable to the Allies; the soldiers and officers were hostile to the Italians, seen as "illegitimate victors" and duplicitous, and defiant of the Germans. The fate of the fleet, in particular, was seen to be doubtful. Between the 11th and the 26th, numerous arrests and expulsions took place. The French admirals, Laborde and Marquis, ordered their subordinates to take a pledge of allegiance to the regime (two of the senior officers, Humbertand and capitaine de vaisseau Pothuau, refused). The crews were first kept aboard their ships, and when they were allowed ashore the Service d'ordre légionnaire monitored all places suspected to be targeted by the Resistance.
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>>170275727

cont'

Not sure what word you "mean" but you are using the word "Globalism" Incorrectly. Perhaps you are really talking about the WTO which is a different idea/agenda than Globalism?
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>>170275596
>>170275727
>>170275924

>>>/pol/
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>>170275821
>French sailors had to man coastal defense artillery and anti-aircraft guns themselves, which made it impossible to swiftly gather the crews and have the ships quickly under way.

That is a very poor allocation of manpower given that if you find yourself in exactly the position they did, the ships are more valuable/easier to defend/get out of harms way than a coastal defense gun.

Likewise removing the troops to guard against partisans is a bad idea. They had the idea to scuttle for a long time, since before the British sank the other half of the fleet, but how is it preferable to scuttle millions of dollars worth of ships instead of getting them away. How does a French admiral read the situation going on and think destruction of the fleet is better than intering it overseas. I get not fighting the German's as Vichy admiral, but there are more options than scuttling.
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>>170276047
Why contain it? :^)
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>>170276224

The admirals in charge were still loyal to the Vichy regime and refused to sail to join the allies without a direct order.
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>>170275727
And?
The two things are still very different.
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>>170276224
Armistice honhonhon

>Initial orders were to scuttle the ships by capsizing them, but engineers, thinking of recovering the ships after the war, managed to have the orders changed to sinking on an even keel.

Also, there were at least 100 ships and the Germans were already on their way to seize the ships. Some of the ships were still afloat when the Germans got there.
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>>170276351
>The admirals in charge were still loyal to the Vichy regime and refused to sail to join the allies without a direct order.

I get that, and that's fine. I get following orders of your superiors. But there is more options than scuttling. Interring in a neutral port is always an option. Hell being migrant fleet can even work (Worked for Wrangels for a good long time). You don't have to join the allies but sinking your own ships eliminates ALL possibilities of usefulness, now and in the future, whereas moving or interning them at least allows them to potentially be useful later. I think the move to scuttle versus interning in a neutral port is sign of poor planning on the part of the Vichy Admiralty. They had a long time to think of scuttling, they knew it was a distinct possibility the Germans were going to attempt to seize the ships, how losing your naval advantage over all but 3 Navies of the world (US, RN, and IJN) better than simply preserving your fleet for potential later use.
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>>170276871
Not him, but either way I will take Nationalism or Fascism over any form of Globalism thank you. Carry on being sold out to 3rd World shitholes if you wish, but it's not my cup of tea
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>>170276763
At the time, Germany still let the Vichy government "control" parts of France. If the Vichy Admiralty did hand over the ships or travel to a neutral port, it was probable that the Germans would dispose of the Vichy government as either would go directly against the armistice. The Vichy government made the best "safe" choice so that if either the Axis or Allies won, the French wouldn't get screwed.

Sailing around with no destination was not possible due to the lack of fuel and manpower.

>On 15 November, Laborde met with Marshal Pétain and Auphan. In private, Auphan tried to persuade Laborde to set sail and join with the Allies; Laborde refused to obey anything short of a formal order of the government. Auphan resigned shortly after.
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Wikiposting from autispara's is bad. neck yourselves all of you
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>>170277705
I don't link or post shit from (((Wiki))), sorry to bust your bubble
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>>170277705
It's better than >>>/pol/ posting
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>>170277820
>>170277824
>>170277824
>>170277824
fuck off autispara
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>>170277875
Good day to you too.
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>>170277587
>it was probable that the Germans would dispose of the Vichy government as either would go directly against the armistice.

But that's what happened anyway. And if they were deluded enough to not see that coming, when EVERYONE else did (that's why Churchill talked down the Vichy Govt' and likewise discouraged scuttling) then it plays back into the thought that the scuttling is sign of poor leadership.
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>>170277927
If you're going to just copy past shittyy autistic wiki paragraphs from your frenchfag makebeleive fanfics Then go do it on somewhere other than my forum kiddster. Ok. lol
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>>170278125
I am upset, I come here for botes and then get a liberal and a conservative >>>/pol/ posting on my bote general.
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>>170278340
take a chill pill libcuck. it's the autispara's fault.
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>>170276871
>says the retard who uses a definition in the wrong context while the original post had a very obvious meaning (multiple, different facets of globalism), and also can't tell apart international commerce as a standalone phenomenon from globalist policies and agenda

kys nigger
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>>170278224
Yea, but that is just trading with other nations now isn't it? Has nothing to do with (((diversity))) quotas, or (((Multiculturalism))), or letting the 3rd World flood your country.
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>>170278125
>There are many places in the US that make tea from within this country, pretty non argument you have there m8

Again; where did the paper come from? Or the Dyes? Or millions of other factors. Here's a fun one; in order to produce tea you need water, you need pure water, most purification is conduct through membranes, most of which are NOT produced in the US. You're not an engineer, I can see that, and I don't expect you to be, but understand when you actually work in manufacturing it becomes PAINFULLY obvious the phrase 'domestically' produced is retarded. There are millions of components that go into producing an object and I'm yet to encounter something that is always 100%, down to the smallest level, not part of globalism. Here's the one that ALWAYS fucks it up with food/grown objects: Pesticides are *required* by law in the US for all crops. Even "all natural" or "organic" foods require pesticides by the FDA. You cannot produce food items or grown crops without pesticides. They are *vital* to getting that tea to you. Do you think those pesticides are made in the US? Dimes to donuts says they are made by Monsanto because of course they are, and Monsanto is THE biggest international company on earth. It may be (as of *today* that is going to change very soon) a US company, but the vast majority of their Plants are overseas.

You buy tea, which crop's were protected by pesticides (which they have to be), you are supporting globalism. You are only fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
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>>170278340
>complaining about politics while in the general of a naval WW2 game
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>>170266430
U U
U Uc
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>>170278340
And morons have been filling it up with trumpshit for over a year now. It's not going to stop.
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>>170278705
You still haven't got to the part where I am supposed to take all of the 3rd World into my 1st World country to make all this happen though Merchant? :^)
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>>170277572
You should be able to pick the meaning of "globalism" in a context from the arguments that surround it, but you clearly are unable to do so since you have aspergers.
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>>170278692
>Has nothing to do with (((diversity))) quotas, or (((Multiculturalism))), or letting the 3rd World flood your country.

And those don't have anything to do with Globalism either. Again, the WORD globalism, is:

glob·al·ism
ˈɡlōbəlizəm/
noun
noun: globalism

the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.
"millions have lost jobs to the new globalism"

-Oxford Dictionary

The word your looking for is, I guess is "Leftist agenda?" What's the antonym of plurality? I don't think there is one in English so we'd have to use another language but that's the word your looking for. Globalism is fair/free trade and allowing cargo planes to fly over your country. Racial quotas are are whole different thing and don't fall under the WORD Globalism.
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>>170278772
>naval WW2 game

Not with all the new Cold War Soviet ships))))))))
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>>170278692
>Yea, but that is just trading with other nations now isn't it?
Yes because that's what globalism is. It's not some buzzword about muh brown people.
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>le globalism is bad
>squabbling amongst ourselves on this tiny spec of dust is good

alien invasion fucking when, this is asinine.
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>>170278905
>You should be able to pick the meaning of "globalism"
>>170278891
>You still haven't got to the part where I am supposed to take all of the 3rd World into my 1st World country to make all this happen though Merchant? :^)

Last time, you don't know the first thing you are talking about. You can't just pick a random word and apply it to a related idea. Globalism has a meaning. None of it has to do with what your describing. You don't like people/nations that aren't yours, we have a word for that, it's called Nationalism. You don't like anti-nationalism? Okay. But Globalism is not exclusive to nationalism or anti-nationalism. You can be nationalistic and be globalist, and you can be anti-nationalist and not partake in globalism (although I am hard pressed to see how for other reasons).

Worth mentioning; no ultranationalist nation has survived more than about 50 years, always devolving into Civil War or Rump State eventually.
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>>170279152
>New
>He forgot the Kutuzov

)))))))))))))))))))))


>>170278995
>>170279254
You are definitely on the spectrum, that much is for sure
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>>170279254
>muh brown people

Wow, racist much? There are also yellow and black people as well. What a racist you are :^)
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>>170279152
The USN has more late-war ships than the soviet navy does, with more modern technologies. Soviet ships came out late but just as they were designed in the early 40s and before. If Stalin wanted he could have built them all much earlier, and they would be as they are now in the game.
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Reminder: Grozovoi was made into a worse ship than trashkent in order to appease the furfag wehraboo's over how average z-52 is.
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>>170279602
Time for what? Buying prem stock hulls?
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>>170278995
Wrong, wrong, wrong; language is not a fixed system and words gain different meaning as society evolves and history is written; you'd have to be really autistic not to catch up with what he meant for "globalism" in the first post, and go with the "official" britcuck definition.
Whether you like it or not, even if globalism was originally a mainly economic agenda pursued by governements and international organizations, it has long stopped to solely involve the economic layer.
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>>170279308
This tbqh.
We need some real shit to go down. Swim or sink time.
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>>170279780
Okay, than present your meaning of globalism
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>>170279628
I was just making fun of that 1 anon for
>naval WW2 game

Today's patch was for RU DDs.

>>170279853
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>>170279308
>>170279850
edgy. wanna knowhow I know you're 17 and have just had your first attempt at political theory via wikipedia despite never having read a single book in your life
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>>170279628
>The USN has more late-war ships

The issue is less "late war" and more "post war." The US doesn't have any ships designed or launched in the 50's, can't say the same thing about Soviet boats.
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>>170279780
>Giving him more (You)s
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I'm curious, why are there so many autistic spergs in the Discord channel that can't into simple reading comprehension?
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>>170279959
Why is she spilling all that tea!?

WHY!?
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>>170279976
which soviet ships were designed post-war?
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>>170279959
Reading breitbart all day long doesn't qualify as reading a boo, my dear retarded NEET pal.
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>>170280135
stop image imit spamming
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>>170280160
but muh real truth about gay frogs
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>>170280136
Moskva
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>>170279780

What you're doing is called 'moving the goalpost.' You don't actually know what your angry about, and someone, equally uniformed, called it globalism, and you've stuck with the definition. From now on we're just gona call all ultranationalists 'child rapists.' It doesn't meant that, but we'll keep using it until the language 'evolves' to mean that.

What makes you look so stupid isn't your politics btw. Why people on the left look down on people on the right isn't their politics. It's your inability to frame your politics within the bounds of language, rhetoric, or coherent thought. We get it, your angry about foreigners and race. We hear you loud and clear, but beyond that I can't honestly see what your problem is, not because I disagree, but because you are so poor in your grasp of your own language to express it properly.
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>>170280016
People who like botes are autistic I guess.
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>>170280220
So that is what it looked like before they went full pagoda retard
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>>170280234
1941 design
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>>170280160
Nice spelling kid. I can tell how flustered you are.
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Post more French Cruisers
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>>170280136

Well the MK for one was launched in 52'. None of the US ships were launched after 47'. And likewise the Moskva was designed in the mid 50's.
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>>170280279
Stop projecting and making (wrong) assumptions mein cuck, that's extremely rasist.
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>>170280279
>argument to the absurd in autismo paragraph form
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>>170280850
Not him, but you seem to have some deep emotional issues driving your tism here dudester
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I see we are trying to kill this thread earlier than usual?
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>>170280427

Also qualifies as surviving WWII era IJN/KM ships.
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>>170280326
>Hating on based pagodas
Shit taste desu
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>>170281048
ugly irrelevant botepaster usually gets mad about being called a libcuck I think. Then he tries to kill the thread by hitting the image limit.
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>>170281095
>Trust no one, not even yourself
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>>170281095
If you want a bridge stacked with shit at least do a proper job.
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>>170280279
Jesus christ you're clueless and just spouting meaningless shit at this point, the original argument is long lost and you still can't grasp it.
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>>170281007
>emotional issues driving your tism here dudester

So we've pretty moved fully into the "evolution" of the word autistic to mean, "The other guy is smarter/more capable of framing an arguement." And don't say, "I don't care enough to," because you do, you took the time to make a response, poor though it may be, you could equally take the time to make a structured argument. You choose not to and instead try to make a pseudo insult that only highlights your lack of understanding.
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>>170281141
I noticed
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>>170280279
I bet you also think europe is granting access to all those refugees out of pity and/or UDHR :^)
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>>170281306

'muh dik' it is hombre.
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>>170281309
That's a very autistic paragraph there kid. but tell me how you really feel
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What model is this plane? Looks like some float-plane version of an A7M but I'm not really sure.
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>This thread
>mfw
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>>170281309
So we've moved fully where emotional issues means autism and having assburgers means being smart, nice grasping at straws boy.
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>>170282034
>The Jews aren't in control
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>>170282150
>he got tricked
This is why you'll always be poorer than you could be.
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>>170282276
I want to penetrate that bow
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>>170280397
>the project was formally approved on 27 May 1947
About 68-bis class. (Kutuzov) So even design was after War
>The heavy cruisers of Project 66 are a project of artillery ships developed in the USSR after World War II
About Moskva from RU WG wiki. 1941, was when idea about creating something similar to Hipper class ship, bought by USSR. But as common sense tells, idea =/= project. Only in 1943 was proposed to create larger guns for this proposed cruiser

Also:
Superiority in the range of fire by the main caliber could not be realized because of imperfection of fire control systems (from RU wikipedia)
Not in game of course. In game Moskva has lazers
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>>170282034
>Jews
>Not in control
You fuckin wot m8?
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>>170281872

Whether you agree or disagree with an argument, seeing a coherent, thought out one, and then responding with 'autismo' is a sign of stupidity. It takes time to make any response, you are choosing the childish/stupid one in lue of an equally or dare I say better one. So yes, defaulting to calling someone autistic is tatamount to saying, "I'm too stupid to counter this logically, I'll just try to dismiss it by calling the other guy autistic" which, although I am not familiar with the particulars, does basically amount to saying the other guy is smarter. Are autistic person's passionate to a point of obsession with particular ideas/concepts/interests? So that means you calling them autistic is saying, "Wow this guy care's and knows a lot about this thing," and in so doing, knows more than you? Calling someone autistic is you saying, "He knows a helluva lot more about this than I do but I don't want to sit quiet in my wrongness, better quip a short insult instead!"
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>>170281769
>That hasn't ever worked
Well, US of A kinda was created by immigrants.
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>>170282323

Fucking this all day. You know how you beat the jews at money? By not even paying them mind. That's how my family did it. Plus... killing a bunch of French.
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>>170282505
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>>170281769
Globalism is just the process through which wealth is concentrated among few, and your so called efficiency is just a product of inexistent third world wages and inhuman work shifts.
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>>170282505
White immigrants with similar cultural backgrounds based around European culture, not people from every corner of the fucking globe
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>>170282323
>>170282558
>Hahaha, no you got tricked my friend
>Just ignore them hahaha
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>>170282505

No, and again I *am* a globalist, but the US being built by immigrants is true only in the most literal sense of being physically having bricks laid by immigrants. The US as an entity, in both concept and creation, was produced by landed gentry, typically (although not exclusively) by well worn English families who set up abroad. If you started the US today it wouldn't be guys like Barrack Obama as the founding fathers, it would be Bill Gates. These guys were the wealthiest, largest landholding elite, or from long standing military families (which is it's own segment of elite). Poor immigrants cant afford books to learn about Montesquieu, much less rise to a position to apply principles found within. Today, owning physical land is not important, but rather segments of trade. As such, Globalism is the name of the modern game.
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>>170282781
THICC
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IFHE or CE for first 4 point skill on Shchors? I'm going straight to Moskva
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>>170282704

Pretty much yeah. What's the problem with that? And more importantly, how is this any different than it ever was? Other than replacing "Physical Land" with "Intellectual Property" how is consolidation of money to elites any more common today than it was a hundred years ago. Need we bring up the Robber Barons?
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>>170283004
IFHE and then just respec once you get to the Moskva.
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>>170282865
>>170282959
You may find this interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99QkLytWLY
Can't read moonrunes, but the pictures speak for themselves.
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>>170283004
Do not take IFHE on Moskva. Just take IFHE and get a new captain on Donskoi and then put that one on Moskva.
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>>170282867
>he's so distracted with his boogyman he's blind to what's really going on
that's right, just blindly consume the media that makes you think you know everything, after all then you won't have to look into it any more will you? :^)
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>>170283581

My country knew how to deal with the jews. Just ignore them and not let them in. You don't have to kill them, you just have to say no them. If anything Globalism is the most anti-Jewish stance you can have as it concentrates wealth in the already wealthy, and I know you Americans like to think your jews are wealthy, but they don't even make the top 1000 when looking globally. As it stands, Catholics are winning by in all levels as overall wealthiest by 'religious race.' Just not in america because for some reason Catholics didn't go there for the most part. You're all dirty protestants who have been in fear of the 'the jew' for the better part of 300 years and are too stupid to see the Catholics control pretty much 3/4 of the world's economy, and to say nothing of half the land.
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/wowsg/ is helpless without a firm hand to guide it towards the promised land.
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>>170284040
Yet some how the existence and position of power the AIPAC holds in America escapes you, and with their hold on the US government allows Israel to do whatever the hell it pleases. Oh and if you try to mess with any of their plans, even indirectly mess with them, they will turn their attack dog(The US) lose on you.
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>>170284442

You are aware the Catholic church can buy and sell both Israel and the AIPAC 50 times over and still have money left over. Israel and the US's media, on the sides, fascination with Israel, is like when you were in school and you had that kid run around spreading rumors or making a big too do over any little change in the world of a 10 year old. Makes a whole lot of noise, but very little substance and in the end irrelevant to what the adults are doing. The US's right battling the 'jews' on the left is like two morons having a fight in a car park of Bae Industries, it will get attention but not really effecting the people and agenda's that matter.
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>>170283041
Isn't that the fleet that got BTFO'd by 7 destroyers?
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>>170284970
Nope.
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>>170283218
Oh baby
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>>170284957
So you are telling me that the real enemy is Christianity?
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Thank you based shiposter.
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>>170283092
>he thinks he's among the few oligarchs

I have bad news for you...
Also, you're right, no one ever blinked about globalism until we realized a country economy can't function solely on intellectual jobs, at least from an employment perspective; this is going to become even clearer as automation increases but we're still far away from that despite what everybody is spouting.
In the meantime, middle class is bleeding and "irrational" things might happen.
You really can't expect people to just put up with poverty and starvation caused by job bleeding due to automation and/or relocation; which is why, a so called outsider like drumpf, won.
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>>170285419
>In the meantime, middle class is bleeding and "irrational" things might happen.

Middle class is a joke. An accident of history that has no place or need in a growing world economy especially lead by exactly what you mentioned: increasing automation.

>>170285221

No. Well yes in the sense that non-Catholics are identified under the banner headline of Christians. Here's a noticeable tip: Only like 1 or two forms of Christianity don't have a problem with Evolution; the Catholic church has had 0 issue with evolution from the day it was proposed. That alone should tell you what the playing field looks like. Christians; i.e. Non-Catholic/Anglican (sometimes)/Eastern Orthodox are fucked up, and are fucking up much of the world by making the belief of relgiion important, rather than the framework an organized religion provides. This is why the jews have never, and will never, attain NOTICEABLE power. Israel was a good try, but without an established, well organized and cohesive church with leadership, land, and capital (something Catholics, Anglicans and Eastern Orthodox's have in a MUCH higher degree than governments do) it is only going to be increasingly difficult to gain and maintain power. In short, Catholics will stay on top because they have the backing of a community that reaches across boarders like it's a joke. Jews can't even agree with each other, much less foreigners. And protestants are just by and large retarded.
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>>170281543
Looks like an N1K series aircraft.
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>>170286348
stop offtopic shitposting
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>>170284957
It's true that Catholic church is disgustingly rich, but i really can't imagine them being as powerful as you portray them, and trust me, i live in the heart of christianity.
Another thing i can't understand is where you're taking the figures which would confirm catholic church (and its adept) as the wealthiest organization in the world; also, it doesn't really matter because catholics might be more than jews but they're also a way more uncoordinated mass, and it's concentrated wealth that really influences world choices.
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>>170286348
>Eastern Orthodox are fucked up

Stopped reading there
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>>170253816
>>170257339
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>>170286909
your pronunciation is horrible.
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>>170273764
I mean, the goal was to keep the ships out of german hands. It even explains that in the picture.
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>>170286648
>powerful as you portray them

They are more powerful than you can ever believe. Trust me on that. As an old world noble, and a Catholic one at that, I am all too aware at just how strong the Catholic Church is. Because unlike the Protestants, who feel that the belief is the important part (and is tied to their very founding of 'through faith alone') Catholic's understand the community is where the power is. You don't have to believe shit to take advantage of the power and prestige of the Catholic church. I don't believe in god at all, and haven't been to church in at least 10 years, but I have on more than one occasion taken advantage of what the church can offer as far as positioning can get you. And you need look no further for concentrated wealth than Catholics. Jew's don't have shit on Catholics. It's something American's can't wrap their mind's around, but the wealthiest jews in the world are poor compared to upper class Catholics. And the Catholic's are anything but uncooridnated. I did 12 years of Catholic school and let me tell you, the business, professional, and personal relationships formed on the basis of being Catholic are worth way more than the one based on merit. As far as how I know this, easy, look at who donates the most money to various political agenda's, who runs the WTO, and whose doctrine more often than not gets implemented on the economics of the world. It isn't jewish I'll tell you that much. No jew is wasting spending money on the MiC. And yet the the MiC, the world over, is almost exclusively controlled by old Catholic or Anglican families.
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>>170286793

No, as in the Eastern Orthodox, Anglican and Catholic Churches are the good ones. Poor syntax on my part. It's all of the OTHER forms of Christianity that are fucked up, like Lutherans, Baptists, Anabaptists, and Mormons and shit like that. The only group that has more money, prestige, and power than the Eastern Orthodox is the Catholics.
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>>170287346
>He doesn't want to enjoy the sport of WW2 France bullying
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>>170287567
What is your issue with Baptist?
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>>170287070
>your pronunciation is horrible.
ok
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>>170287738

Same as with Protestants in general; they are a headless, powerless, senseless group of true believers that are too stupid to see they've become the butt of their own joke. Even taken their idea's on their own terms (as in, accept for the premise of an argument the Christian god exists in the way they say he does) the whole "through faith alone" stuff is ridiculous and contradicts what their own guy told them to do, and similarly if they are going to take the bible at face value (which Baptists do), then I better never see them play football, or touch their wife's hand on her period, or a hundred other 'laws' of faith, and likewise, all the guys better get cut, since if they are ignoring the council of nicea, which they have to since that's a Catholic Dogma they reject, and likewise are jews themselves since it's Catholics that said you didn't have to become a jew first. Even their core naming concept is ignorant of things jesus told them to do: not baptizing children.
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>>170286348
Maybe my definition of middle class is different, but if it's a mistake then what'd be the composition of a future consumerist society?
Consumerism and middle class are pretty well tied together.

What you're saying about catholic church working as a very solid societal framework is true but i think you're underestimating how much they value (or want others to value) religiousness.
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>>170287995
>Charles Martel
Hnnnnng that name
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>>170288358
reddit is already demanding it changed because apparently it's associated with nazi's or something
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>>170288538
The evil French Nazis strike again.
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>>170282447
There is a flaw with that reasoning. If someone comes up with a well structured and thought out response to a question and it happens to be wrong on all levels or worse, so uninformed that you cant hope to begin to address every single fault, you cannot call the author of the wrong answer smarter than the guy that responded with a quick "fuck off autist". Your only metric for determining the intelligence of an anon seems to be the length of their response. Is that why you are a tad too verbose in your responses? anyone with actual mastery of the language could cut the length of your responses in half and still retain the entirety of the message and impact.
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>>170288538
It's Charles "the Hammer", the guy who won the Battle of Poitiers and stopped the Muslim invasion of Europe in the early Middle Ages. So yeah, muh islamophobia I guess.
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>>170287995
HP stop fapping with baguettes ships
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>>170288538
Charles Martel stopped the islamic conquest of iberian peninsula iirc, and since european history is extremely racist towards muzzies it shall be banned so as not to hurt jihadi feefees.
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>>170288945
le French vehicles get autoloaders maymay

xDDDD
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>>170288894
polish BB when. John III Sobieski when
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>>170288538
Fuck you, you made me visit that shithole.

>There are a few quite unfortunate name choices for fictional cruisers though. First, naming ships after kings is something France stopped doing during the early 20th century, then "charles martel" is currently used as a far right symbol - it's more or less like naming a german cruiser "Lebensraum". Very little thought has been put into that.
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>>170288538
source?
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>>170288331
>Maybe my definition of middle class is different, but if it's a mistake then what'd be the composition of a future consumerist society?

How far ahead are we looking? At post-Cornucopia technology/technological singularity? Or just at the point where all physical, non-mental/creative work is done by machinery? (Both likely happening within the Century). Cause if it's the former, class kinda ceases to exist as work for anything but pleasure is unnecessary. If it's the later, the same consumerism that existed prior the industrial revolution. Contrary to what your college professors told you, consumerism isn't a new thing. Even substance farms had to BUY things, even it was just a trough to plow the land, since he likely wasn't a blacksmith. They just buy the things they need, not necessarily the things the want. That's what the middle class is, a group of people that have capital that can be spent on things they want in small doses. That's going to disappear. The upper class will still buy things they don't need, but the lower class will be stuck with largely just the needs. Ideally, and if governments are smart, they will incentivize lower classes from having children. That's where Nazis/Soviets/Communists fucked up. You don't kill them, cause that makes them hate you. The British had it right, you make it more attractive for lower reaches of society to not have kids. Reward them for not having kids. And they won't, This is where the Protestant thing comes in. Yeah Catholics don't like birth control, but I'm yet to encounter them stopping, and I mean STOPPING someone from getting access to it. Protestants, not so much. They get laws changed, and businesses ruined to stop contraceptives. This is the sign of a group that doesn't think globally or long term. LET the poor people have contraceptives. GIVE them it for FREE. It means there's LESS poor people long term.
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>>170289074
but martelus wasn't a king tho
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>>170288945
DELET THIS
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>>170289214
He was Charlemagne's grandfather in direct paternal line though.
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>>170287404
In that case you really cant call the other denominations dirty or fucked up seeing as how they actually believe in what they preach. You said it yourself that catholics are just in it for the power and money. Shit, they're even more jew than jews if this is true.
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>>170289553
yea but he was just like hand of the king. who was like a 12 yearold. so it doesn't really go against muh no kings. charlemagne was emperor of the franks and lombards too no king reee
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>>170289214
Henry IV certainly was. Which brings us back to the point that in 20th century France didn't name their boats after Kings.
Even De Gaulle (or Petain, just to troll) would be better name
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>>170288331
>i think you're underestimating how much they value (or want others to value) religiousness.

Speaking as a 'well to do' Catholic this is a good example of what the church 'wants' you to do, but not what they 'expect' you to do. They expect you to keep the church strong. Lots of ways to do that have nothing to do with belief. Businesses and leaders benefit from having a strong church, as does the 'true believers.' Would the pope also like everyone to be a true believer? Yeah of course, but he knows that isn't going to happen so, again, unlike protestants, the Catholic church takes the pragmatic approach and accepts, rather tolerates, both behaviors. That's why they don't excommunicate women who get abortions. They don't like the idea, but they recognize having the member is better long term, and no one thinks long term like the Catholic Church. The bullshit of the world today and islam? Pff, had a 100 years of that shit 700 years ago. This is nothing. A blip on the radar nothing more.
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>>170289739
Henry IV was still seen as a "good king" right up until the 21st century though. He managed to build quite the reputation as a friend of the people and stuff.
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>>170250516
>RNfags BTFO
How will they ever recover?
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>>170289890
Same thing with Saint Louis actually, who's also seen as a great king (I mean, the guy is literally a saint). Although he, too, had a habit of killing mudslimes.
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>Have to chase down a 3k Leningrad in a half HP Sims
>Nearly get btfo and have to disengage
These fucking guns. Almost R1 and still, these fucking guns.

I think I'll skip out the next T7 season. It's just not fun to look like a moron every time I meet a DD I can't outrun.
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>>170289576
>You said it yourself that catholics are just in it for the power and money.

Not all, but the smart ones are. And the problem with the other denominations is they don't even follow their own preaching. If they did, not one of them would be a Republican or a nationalist, or anti-immigration, or anti-women, or anti-femist. Jesus was a hippy. And yet most protestant groups have re-tooled him into, I don't know, chuck norris c. 0 A.D.
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>>170290006
Well, since that was a name of supposed successor of Algerie class, WG can't just create another name.
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>>170290147
Oh, true. And since it IS a king's name, I don't see why Henry IV should be out. Also we still name ships after important historical figures, like Jeanne d'Arc, so I don't see why Charles Martel should be out either.
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>>170289890
Okay. To sum it up. Nobody will care 1 week later
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no new thread. let's stay ded forever.
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>>170289507

>king who converted to Catholicism to become king
>offending Irish

????????
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>>170290047
it doesnt look good when you claim "not all" with the catholics and then turn around and claim the other denominations dont follow their preachings at all. From where im standing here, it appears every side is guilty. There should be some protestants following the teachings and some catholics doing the same.
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Why can't we all just get along you stupid fucking autistic faggots?
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>>170289192
I never meant to assume that "consumerism" never existed before the industrial revolution, the term itself is quite ironic but mainly serves the purpose of identifying the last few centuries of commonly spread individual surplus.
What i meant is who would bring about the current, recent consumerist model if you're ruling out middle class?
It either shapes into a different thing or stops altogether; that is, if we're going to return to a late reinassance society, demographic composition wise.
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>>170290515
>>170290515
>>170290515
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>>170290446

Irish are to Catholics what American Blacks are to Baptists. Take that for what you will.
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>>170290489
>There should be some protestants following the teachings and some catholics doing the same.

I have never met a single protestant who stoned their father to death for working, and remember working involves basically standing up, on the Sabbath. I have never met nor heard of a single protestant forced his daughter to marry her rapist. Catholics preach ideas of 'metaphor' and symbolism, and by definition allow the their church to grow, evolve, and accept new ideas (that's what the pope is actually for), and thus can change ideas. It's a core tennant. Protestants, BY DEFINITION, are not allowed to introduce ideas. They MUST follow the book as it is written, and thus if they ignore even one idea, they are a hypocrite. Catholics allow a degree of interpretation, protestants don't. And my issue with Protestants is, overall, less that they are hypocrites (which they are) and more that they are stupid. They don't think globally, which is why they are a minority religion everywhere but the US, the don't think long term, which is why they exercise little real power, and they are unable to appreciate that members that gain power are best utilized, rather than scorned. The devil you know, in short.

>>170290548

Long term, whoever controls the development of AI and the eventual Molecular assembler will decide what the shape of the world's demographics, economic, and political model.
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>>170290576
you have never taken an american history class huh. the race you were looking for is german
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>>170291224
>molecular assembler
>AI
holy shit you're dumb maximum Dunning Kruger effect. but cringy autistic and clearly from a 17 yearold
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>>170291249

I have, I don't think you get my analogy. I'll spell it out: Irish are the niggers of the Catholic church and cause the rest of the church, believers or not, to roll their eyes when they 'preach' about what the Catholic church is. I don't feel it's fair to label the German's as an appropriate analogy to this for Baptists.
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>>170291403

As a Chemical Engineer I have to tell you, MA's are on their way. The bullshit fat/sticky finger issue ignores that such a device would not work 'physically' the same way we don't produce CNT's by actually pulling at the surface.

I am not a CSE, but from what I read in the trades, a 'dumb' AI is likely to be very real in the very, very near future. And we don't need a 'smart' AI, if you want a conversation you can talk to a person, but a dumb AI to run databases? Yeah that works just fine.
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>>170291504
germans are the perfect analogy. your poor education on the subject is apparent
>>170291751
nah. As a nuclear engineering project manager I can tell you you are full of shit aswell as low tier
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>>170291403
>Dunning Kruger

Congrats you took an intro to psych course. But the Dunning Kruger effect is the most potent example of a, "He who smelt it delt it" problem.
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>>170292051
false analogy. ad homeny
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>>170291953

Explain on both counts. MA's can function already in a manner of speaking as CVD's. A higher precision, as always in engineering, is really just a problem of time and money, not a physical limitation. If you were an engineer you would know that. Yes we can't have one TOMORROW, but give it a decade or two and a few trillion dollars, it'll get there. Either as a more advanced version of CVD or maybe Arch Discharge pending on the materials chosen for contribution.

Likewise for the German issue, explain how German->Baptists is even similar to Irish->Catholic.
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>>170289074
>First, naming ships after kings is something France stopped doing during the early 20th century
Fucking wrong. The 6 planned Saint Louis class cruisers had those names:
Saint Louis
Charlemange
Brennus
Henri IV
Charles Martel
Vercingetorix

WG just used the names French navy used themselves, you literally can't go wrong with using historical names.
source: French Cruisers 1922-1956 by John Jordan and Jean Moulin, page 224.
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>>170292314
it's a waste of time and money. take your shitty low tier chemical engineer as elsewhere. it's clear to me you know jack shit about program management. the time line you are looking for is more like 200 years from now. even then it will hardly be useful. meta materials capable of interacting with energy in more useful ways is the future. not shitty nonscientific garbo with no application.
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>>170292582
>it's a waste of time and money.

They said the exact same thing about microchips

>But.. but cathode tubes are fine!

>200 years from now.

Yeah no. Technology to produce such a device already exists, it just takes refinement.

>not shitty nonscientific garbo with no application.

Do you not know what a molecular assembler does? Or rather what one would have to do to call it such a thing? And it is not 'nonscientific' it is just technologically unfeasible NOW. Nonscientific is moving data faster than light. A molecular assembler is just technically diifficult. But there is no physical phenomena or principle that excludes it's existence. Hell 3/4 of the problems are 19th Century Chemistry.

But then your a shitty nuclear engineer. How's it feel being a code monkey's bitch 99% of the time. I know your industry all to well. A "project manager" in nuclear engineering is like a toddler getting a say in vacation destination. They've been 'heard.' How many products have you had get to market, industrial or otherwise? Or do you just work on whatever part the CSE's tell you to?
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>>170293143
You literal have no idea what you are talking about and are just spewing popscience. stop embarrassing yourself
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>>170293143
I work govt contracts on manufacture and removal of high level waste dude. Code monkey modelers get paid by me. they are my downstream. you cucks basically rim my ass for attention all day. Chem engenering is computer science tier
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>>170293328

Gotcha bitch. Yeah, you're not an engineer. Or if you are you are not a project manager. No project manager would ever responds like that. It is antithetical to how a PM works and gets things done. Ha funny thought, leme guess, you're a six sigma guy too I bet? Black belt and all?
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>>170293586
I'm also a marine dude. I'm trained in naval warfare. i'd beat you up kid
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>>170293496
>Chem engineering is computer science tier

We only run basically the entirety of Manufacturing in the world but sure, we work bellow code monkeys. Oh and we also, myself included, have more say in the actual implementation of engineering concepts and the creation of governing laws on both the national and international stage. And meanwhile do all this without risking our necks thanks to the wonders of the industrial blanket. I have a PE, don't need to though. Can you say the same thing? If you fuck up is the worst thing that happens to you getting fired?
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>>170293773
Oh shit dude. I hope the toothpaste factory you work at knows you sperg about molecular assemblers here.
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>>170293496
>Chem engenering is computer science tier

You know ChemE's get paid more than any other form of Engineer right (and doubly so since Petroleum Engineers are just ChemE's that got WAY too into Separations and Organic Chem)? And for good reason.
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>>170293934
Not as much as me. But that's because i actually deal with shit that matters dude lol
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>>170293878

I actually work for Bae Systems in their Ship Building Division, which is why I keep mentioning them. And if anyone gets an MA working, it's gona be Bae.

...That said a toothpaste factory is probably much harder than it appears. It's gotta be safe for human consumption which probably means just an obscene amount of over watch and regulations. And again, if you were an engineer, you'd know that within a few seconds of thinking it, that it's the regulations that makes our work hard, not that math lol.
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>>170294171
>ship building division.
you are literal fiberglass tier worthless lol
try working on a real ship you little babby
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>>170294024
>Not as much as me.

Statistically incorrect. In all developed nations, Chemical/Petroleum Engineers are the highest paid engineers across the board. Baring statistical outliers, this is a fact. So if you do make 'more' than a CE, it's not because of your field, it's because you convinced your employer your worth it.

Looking it up Nuclear Engineers are 4-5ish across the board (Forbes had you at 6 but it's Forbes).
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>>170294171
>>170294374

enviro science maj's can pull reg's easy you big babby. don't think you're speshul lol
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>>170294338

OMG you deputized the Ford class into your debate? Speaking as an insider even her engineers know she's a giant mess of half thought out ideas. Can't wait to watch the deck of one of those things go up in flames when their new catapults blow up. You could have at least brought up the Virginia class which is actually a real impressive boat.
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Engineers are so autistic they cant even
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>>170294572
stop attempting to shit post. your autism bleeds through
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>>170294591
4/5 of the people claiming to be engineers on 4chins are actually HS dropouts who have a GED.
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>>170294572
You should probably head over to /k/ if you want to get beat up by the truly knowledgeable on the gford lmao fuckin dumb memers
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>>170294721

You don't know how dangerous the EMALS is going to be on a WARSHIP. Likewise it's not like American made nuclear power plants aren't prone to discharge errors oh wait...

Seriously though that EMALS is a huge danger to the US CVN's. Money/work saved from removing the desalination is not worth it, and the ability to launch heavier aircraft is in contrast to the fact aircraft mass has already peaked and is on a downswing.
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>>170295104
You kinda just outed yourself as completely retarded. go read war is borring kid and stop pretending to be a sensitive autistic engineer
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>>170295237

Oh struck a nerve my American friend? Don't like it when someone points out how poorly made your power plants are? Go back to school "nuclear engineer" and learn what "body of design" is, as if you bring up half the recent American ship designs you see there seems to be a problem in their education system when it comes to engineers working together. I mean seriously, other than the Virginia class, what boats have you got coming out that are worth half of what they cost?
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>>170295104
>You don't know how dangerous the EMALS is going to be on a WARSHIP
false
>Likewise it's not like American made nuclear power plants aren't prone to discharge errors
how old are you like 60? I always wanted to fuck a really angry autistic german man in his 60's
>Seriously though that EMALS is a huge danger to the US CVN'
nah
>Money/work saved from removing the desalination is not worth it
you basically know you were wrong
>and the ability to launch heavier aircraft is in contrast to the fact aircraft mass has already peaked and is on a downswing.
f-35 with it's ing loading and future upgrades will continue to grow. newer sentry radar updates will continue to grow s will heavier and more agressive growler jamming packages


gg ez
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>>170295237

Also, worth mentioning, why is it your projects get more expensive the more you build? While Bae actually makes each subsequent boat cheaper? Hell our next block of Astute's is going to be around 20% cheaper than the first batch.
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>>170295724
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/europe/britain-royal-navy-warships/

rekt
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>>170295602
>f-35 with it's ing loading and future upgrades will continue to grow. newer sentry radar updates will continue to grow s will heavier and more agressive growler jamming packages

The F35 is a Pre-Dreadnought craft built in 1912. It's a complete waste of time at this point and by the time they replace all serviceable fighters/fighterbombers in use on CV's it'll be a decade out of date. You're showing how little you know as you've bought the press release hook line and sinker. Just like the morons that keep pouring funds into the F35 you know your wrong but too obstinate to admit it.
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>>170295853
Holy shit KEK next time you see Wave just call him the autistic hot water boy
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In case anyone missed this through all the autist walls of text sperg.
These are the names French navy planned to use for the C6 project, commonly known as Saint Louis class cruisers.
Saint Louis
Charlemange
Brennus
Henri IV
Charles Martel
Vercingetorix
source: French Cruisers 1922-1956 by John Jordan and Jean Moulin, page 224.

WG just used the names French navy wanted to use, you literally can't go wrong with using historical names. Anyone who says that the names are bad or inappropriate must go hang himself for being clinically retarded.
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>>170295961
>It's a complete waste of time
eurofighter trash go home. you lost already

there isn't a true engeer alive who doesn't know of it's superiority lol kys XD
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>>170295853

Wasn't my division but the last I heard the problem was that it was Corprates decision to use an American made intercooler which is fucking ridiculous cause we build them in house, just smaller for other craft. All they had to do was scale it up but nope, let the American's build it and of course it falls apart.
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>>170296226
that sounds like an alternative fact. care to try again
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>>170296102

Hey I don't like the Eurofighter at all either. And speaking for my own division, none of us do. That's how I know the F35 is just as fucked up as are the people designing it. Both are atrocious design boondoggles that should have been abandoned years ago. Difference is at least our Bosses finally cut the rope and forced one out, the US is STILL fucking around with it and still pouring money into. We cut our losses at least and hope to do better on the next. You guys are fine just pouring more money into a project that will be antiquated before it phases out anything.
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>>170296554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtZNBkKdO5U&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyHlp7tJrxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31oJIo8EVwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s7-3EUXC_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwh-1jRGuDc
stay btfo ausairpower tier retard lol
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>>170296554
>antiquated
compared to what? the closest competitor doesn't even exist in planning yet and that would be the 2030 fighter
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>>170296318

>The engine problems are understood to stem from the intercooler units, which recycle heat from the exhaust, and slow down in warm waters.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/692341/Type-45-destroyer-engine-problems-analyst-claims-MoD-failed-properly-test-engines

That intercooler, with like 5 seconds of google, came from Northrup Grumman and whose country are they from...?

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/putting-the-type-45-propulsion-problems-in-perspective/
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>>170296850
sounds like a planning project management problem. using a part that isn't designed for a task then complaining about who manufactured it is the peak of stupidity and lots tbqh
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>>170296829

You know that last block of F18's are planned to stay in service well into the 2050's right? Like they even want to do an extension program to push it even further than that. And that's a manned fighter. Yeah, like or not, unmanned is where this is going and by the time F35 even BEGINS to start pushing F18's out of service you'll be seeing the first unmanned fighters.
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>>170297085
yea growlers will stay in service. they are a brand new airframe design with less than 2000 hours each. that's like not a secret. we already have drones on our carriers and the f-35 is designed to act as a drone commander for them to limit jamming. it's unlikely drones resistant enough to jamming for fighter or attack capability ij a highthreat arena will exist for some time. so no. read a book kid
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>>170297065

Oh it was definitely the bean counters fucking things up, no doubt about that. We build intercoolers in house. None that large, but that's a scaling up problem and just takes a little time. The NG ones must have been readily available so they went for them instead, but that was stupid and the bean counters are paying the price for it. If not in money, in clout. I work in Subs so they give us a bit more free range since surface ships are starting to be considered a waste of time anyway (how are CV's *not* basically Battleships circa 1942, obsessed over but largely irrelevant from a better, cheaper, more mobile platform), but even we feel the breath of Corporate from time to time.
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>>170297346
So say it with me BAE systems Fucked up because BAE systems fucked up. It's ok you can't all be as cool as SAIC.
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>>170297261

You're like the same kind of dude that looked at Naval Artillery in 1935 and said, "Yep, this is where we should focus all development efforts. There's now way these things aren't already irrelevant and wasting time on them doesn't hinder the progress of more useful vessels."
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>>170297346
>cv's are bad
nah. lrn2 power project kid.

world power hundred points #1
>>170297548
stop with the false equivalencies and platitudes. Try to form an actual argument kid. then get analy devastated by me lol
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