/twg/ - Total War General

Why aren't you rejoicing right now?

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This thread is claimed for Slaanesh

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>Gobbo Archers

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>>169862692
>Chaos is invading
>All major factions are too busy killing one another to care
>Sap-sucking knife-ears are occupying 2 of my armies
>I only hold like 6 provinces
>First chaos horde must be defeated by Kislav, 4 minor nations, and 2 Bret armies w/ lvl 8 generals

Maybe that aggressive AI mod didn't work fully as intended.

>t. peasants
>t. peasants with shields
>t. knights
>t. knights with shiny weapon
Brets unit roster/10

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So what do you want in terms of absolute pie in the sky stuff?

Kislev pumped up to a full playable faction, Tilea and border princes given enough flavor that they arent exactly the same as empire provinces

Maaaaaybe stuff from Nippon/Ind/Cathay? Maybe mercenary heroes you can recruit or something?

>>169863423
Each LL has a unique starting location and unique units/flavor events

>>169862806
I would give ze lady something to rejoice about, if you know what I mean honhonhon.

>>169863423
Ogre kingdoms will at least give pieces with which to use to make foreign mercenary mod units (i hope)

new content for Warhams when? I just want to throw my shekels at CA

>>169863423
As far as high pie in the sky stuff? Alternate end game scenarios.

Rather than just the Chaos invasion, Nagash wakes up, gotta deal with him. Or if you're not playing as Skaven, the council of 13 get their shit together and swarm the overworld with a host of Verminlords, etc. Make it so every game feels a bit different.

>>169863423
I mostly want a fulfilling and exciting Lizardmen campaign. Maybe some more Empire politicking and some content for the other human factions (Tilea, Kislev, etc.)

>>169863423
Playable Middenland/Toddbringer with Ulric themed units & heroes

>>169863537
This.

>>169863423
I want a randomizer grand campaign mode. Randomly generated world map, not just units placed in different places on the existing one. That and more legendary lords with more unique skill trees please.

end gobbos

>>169863423
I just hope the expansion won't isolate factions away from each other
I dunno too much about their natural locations and how many minor factions actually surround them but I just want to be able to fight humans/greenskins as lizardmen without having to travel a giant map and vice versa. Its a shame to have such a large map and have most of it be irrelevant to your campaign/objectives

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Here's how I will plan out my massive Von Carstein campaign. We will rule over the entire Empire, Bretonnia, and the merchant kingdoms in an era of undeath not yet seen!

>>169864268
Who's the red one? Did I miss something about this update?

>>169863376
You forgot peasants with bows, easy mistake to make

>>169863423

Firstly, expand all of the fluff factions. Fully fleshed out Tilea, Estalia, Border Princes, Araby, Kislev.

Secondly, give all factions of the Empire unique generals like Boris.

Thirdly, give all the main factions a sub story that is hinted at throughout the campaign. An example would be Bretonnia having Mallobaude. Basically how Attila was handled. Give mention of him throughout your campaign until he pops up with some high level doom stacks to face. That will be the faction end game.

Then after that is complete comes the End Times. The real fucking end times, not this bullshit couple of bitch stacks. Chaos shows up and all remaining factions briefly form alliances (except for chaos factions like Beastmen, Skaven, etc.) to fight back Chaos. Give it a special quest battle too.

Fourthly, add a real mercenary system. Dogs of War and all that. Include some exotic units from Cathay and Nippon.

And finally, create a fully functioning underway map.

>>169863423

I want Kislev and the Border Princes to be fully unique and fleshed out, with their own unique rosters, buildings, VAs, and mechanics.

Basically given the Bretonnia treatment.

And Kislev being immune to snow attrition from the start and able to make themselves immune to Chaos attrition

And the Border Princes roster basically being a mix of all the other human nations with original units and some crazy mixes and RoR

>>169864363

Tabletop Lords mod

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Can someone tell me how the fuck starting as Bordeleax is supposed to work? three games in a row now I get wiped out by the red duke around turn 40 who, despite having only one fucking stettlement, has the biggest army in the world by then, and since I can't expand in any direction and my bretonnian fellows won't come to my aid no matter what I'm done for

How do you win as hordes on very hard?

All the enemy factions move their armies in like triple deathstacks, but hordes suffer attrition if you put two of your hordes next to eachother.

>>169863423
Ind, Nippon and Cathay don't have stuff. They have no army lists.

My "absolute pie in the sky" would be the game being 100% released and completed right now instead of piecemeal over the next 3-6 years.

Also by the way the sequel will probably be announced in May with a release date of June 2018. Enjoy, faggots.

>>169864493
You can kill Mousillion turn 2, he only has zombies anyway not counting garrison

>>169864564

More like announced at E3 2017, with a release date of Spring 2018.

>>169864117
In order to fuck with the new world you'll need to sail there. So yeah, they'll be isolated. I mean fuck even now marching from Bretonnia to the southern Badlands is a huge journey- imagine what a pain it will be to march from Bretonnia to Lybaras on the other side of the southern world's edge mountains down in Nehekhara? Or way across the dark lands to reach the mountains of mourn.

But if CA is smart they'll take advantage of the existence of the vampire coast, norse and old world/imperial colonies in the new world to put some LLs from those races as playable factions if you own both games.

>>169864564
>releases in June 2017
screencap this for when you get BTFO

>>169864732
If they announce that it's being released in April 2018 it will probably get delayed again. CA is not competent.

>>169864525
Get lightening strike

Also only Chaos hordes suffer attrition from proximity because CA is retarded.

>>169864813
um

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>Fantasy is far superior as a setting to 40k
>Fantasy was killed off while 40k is thriving

Really makes you think huh

>>169864813
Reread the post you illiterate monkey

>>169864912
>lightning strike
Fucking casual

>>169865049
Go back to /v/ with your stale memes

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>>169863737

>I mostly want a fulfilling and exciting Lizardmen campaign

Literally how? They have no infighting or politics, and both Slanns and Saurus are no fun allowed silent types, leaving all army personality in charge of skinks.

>>169864685
>no trebuchets
somehow I doubt that

>>169864493
>Build Wine immediately
>Get trade with everyone
>Start rolling in dosh, proceed to level Alberic as a utility character for all that even more dosh
>Use the first 20 turns to farm Orcs
>Farm any vampires who leave their shitpile home
>confederate with everyone but the brets to vamps north since they keep them in check
>once you are overwhelmingly large go steamroll them
Seriously, whats the rush? There isnt one. The vampires cant get out of their settlement without getting murdered by either you or another bret faction, the only reason you cant really steamroll them early is because their garrison is pretty tough for an early game bret army.

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>My Bretonnian armies are too squishy to fight against Chaos

What's the best infantry and cav to out meme Chaos?

>>169865479
Its not like Mousillion is walled. Just focus fire The Red Dook and when he goes down so does his army.

>>169865234
>No infighting

That could easily be explained. In the lore it's shown that the Slann have no real idea what the fuck they're supposed to do, changing ideas constantly on what the great plan really is.

The TWW guys could just say various Slann/lizardmen groups split off based on their own ideas for what the great plan is.

>>169865660
Chaos are a real problem for Brets, thankfully the AI is broken again and thinks 15 chariots is a good build

Otherwise you need to take a metric fuckton of armor piecing stuff and stay the fuck away from all their halberds. Use bow cav or something to wear them down.

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Ulric>Morr>Taal>>>>Verena>>>Shallya>>>>Manann>>>>Ranald>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shitmar

>>169865768
You could rework it as part of their unique mechanic
Turn it into dissent, and the higher it goes the worse the settlement does. Less income, longer recruitments, etc

>>169865660
Triple the amount of their armies with peasants and use those sweet armor piercing trebuchets

>>169865234
Bretonnians are penalized for infighting. So you can create penalties for infighting and defying the great plan.

Also Lizardmen should have to wipe out all chaos like beastmemes, woc and skaven as well as undesirable races like vampires and greenskins. You get to be Hitler for justice.

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>>169862692
ROLLAN!

>>169866028
But the only reason sigmar is a god is because ulric vouched for him

Also

>forgetting myrmidia and ursun

>>169866472
>You get to be Hitler for justice.
so just hitler?

>>169866472
Between Skaven, Dark Elves, Norscan settlements, and vampires, Lizards should ave a decent chuck of shit to fight and shit assualting them at all times.

>>169866028
>Taal
The literally fucking who of Empire deities. Wolf-Priests of Ulric are pretty alright heroes and Sigmar has the SoS warband diedicated to him in Mordheim. Middenland and Ostland are also the best provinces and they worship Ulric

>>169866028
>Morr second
I'm ok with that, Morr is based

>>169866572

>Foreign filth deities
>Relevant.

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Warhammer needs a new mechanic in the next expansion: Burning down forests in a live battle.

Fire Arrows and certain siege weaponry should be able to light up a forest if they are firing in that direction. Any units inside the forest would start taking periodic fire damage, and it would become impossible to enter the burning forest from that point on.

>>169866724
>It Ain't Me starts playing

>>169866724

If you mean like Attila then yeah they should just outright take the burning mechanism and put it in Warhammer

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>>169865660
>What's the best infantry
No infantry.

>>169866685
But Myrmidia is worships by the KotBS?

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RIP the boat...

>>169867557

Yeah because a dumb statue fell on some towelheads. A foreign deity is still foreign even if worshipped by locals, or are you saying because heretics born in the Empire worship the chaos gods then the ruinous powers are part of the Imperial pantheon?

I'm telling the witch hunters on you.

>>169865234
I think they did it pretty well in Geheimnisnacht

What are the best mods to actually make combat good?

>>169865234

>Lizardmen will not have a single meme quote

Sad!

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>>169866028

>Myrmidia>>>All

SOL INVICTA

What is the age order of human civiliations in the setting?

Nehekarra->Cathay->Not-Rome that predated Tilea->Strigoy->The Empire->Araby->Bretonnia->Kislev?

>>169868498
Nehekarra dominated and subjugated ancient araby I remember reading in the nagash books.

>launch twwh after long break
>lol, bretcucks
>whiteknight losers
>launch burdigala for shits and giggles
>hear le fay's voice
>2 turns in i've sworn to protect her with my life

what the fuck is happening to me

>>169868710
You found a waifu.

>>169867802
You realize Morr is also a foreign god right? And Verena and Shallya.

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>using radious
>skeleton archers

>>169869376
They are common gods of Empire.

>>169869378
>using radious
STOP

Who should I play next if Im a big shitter who only ever turtles with guns/arty as Dwarves? I really need to get gud but I need a race to kiss me a little beforehand, ya know?

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0 - Louen Leoncuck
1-3 - Based Patriarch
4-6 - WARLORD OF DA EIGHT PEAKS
7-9 - The FIRST and TRUE von Carstein

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>>169870000
Oh for fucking fucks sake...

Well then, ZE LADY WILLS IT!

>>169870000
Rejoice!

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>>169869986
Probably Empire, they're good at everything, you can bombard enemies with artillery, good enough infantry, strong knights and every kind of magic.

FAITH. STEEL. GUNPOWDER.

>>169870000
>Quad 0's

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>>169870000
so far and yet you did it

>>169869901
what's better to fix this shit game? Vanilla is awful

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>>169862692
LET ME TELL YOU

SUMMON

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For the Lady!

>>169870314
>what's better to fix this shit game?
Anything but Radious, his mods are beyond shit.
Use Steel Faith Overhaul

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>>169870473
THE COUNCIL

>>169866501

>>169870534
>its another shitter thinking he is hot shit by killing 3k zombies

>>169870770
Not on desktop; is Steel faith updated for Ze Lady patch?

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>>169870473
GOBBLA

>>169870314
I use the Steel Faith Overhaul. It's pretty good.

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I feel kinda bad for Chaos

>>169870976
Then post your glorious devotion, hotshot!
>>169871018
I have a question tho. Since SFO bumps the the garrison army in your towns, is it harder for the AI to snatch them?

>>169870993
Oh damn, no!
Will still take a few days afaik

>>169870993
I, too, wish to know this

Or any overhaul that's good, I don't like vanilla

>>169863423
definitely reworking underway

Remove this goofy no clipping shit, full underground map HoMM style. Make Karaks extremely limited on the surface a la wood elf outpost with some kind of mountain road battle map for sieges and the actual city is in the underground map with all the building slots. Underway can only be entered from these Outpost karaks and a few specific surface entrances sparsed out here and there in the world, you'll be able to set ambushes outside waiting for some tunnel dwelling fuck rather than the current pray for a no clip intercept shit we have now. Will make the subterranean buff skills a lot more viable as well.

Alongside these revamps, some actual underway battle maps that arent just big empty straight hallway. Give me some maze like maps with lots of impassable terrain and cut off line of sight where you have to look for the foe. Can mess around with extra traits like miners and night goblins having better underground LoS, vanguard units would be super important to scout out the tunnels quickly etc. God fucking damn can you imagine that?. Fuck. FUCK

Also naval combat pls, with sea monsters and shit

>>169871106
iirc steel faith boosts the wall upgrade for settlements, doing so makes it harder for ai to fuck with

Why does Skarsnik love Gobbla so much?

How do I into Bretonnian campaign?

I can't use hammer and anvil tactics since peasants break fast as fuck.

>>169871381

Grail Relique.

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So i've been playing this game for a bit, started out as Empire on hard with Karl. I beat the secessionists, went off to do the quest that gives me a wizard and I beat it with a decisive victory. Winning it won me a harsh trait, which just makes everyone unhappy apparently. How did I get that?

>>169871381
More peasants, they're cheap af and need to die or be disbanded right after anyway. Put archers behind them. Cav charge plus archers plus flying cav focusing enemy Lord = enemy breaks before your peasants. Doesn't work vs dawi and chaos

>>169871381
learn to set up your flanking forces so they are ready to charge by the time they first start attacking your anvil. You shouldn't be waiting to start your cavalry movements until the lines meet.

>>169871294
It saved him so many times before the event in the game. Plus he had it when it was only a little squid.
Skarsnik is a very interesting gobbo

>>169863423
I'd love all the human sub factions Kislev/Araby/Telia/Estalia/Border Princes, fleshed out enough to be playable races even if they don't get "full" rosters.

For them to go all Shogun 2 on the Empire sub factions, giving them their own focuses, a LL and one or two unique units/buildings. Imagining getting the moot and being able to recruit halflings as canon fodder.

Would love to see some of the more out there and add in some of the units in lore, stuff like the Marienburg land ship, the Dwarf Airships, those flying towers you see in the art all the time, stuff like that.

For sieges to get a rework, more interesting map and siege equipment. Specially for factions like the Orcs and Skaven.

A proper RoR system, maybe even bring stuff in like the dogs of war for universal mercenaries.

Working and usable standard bearers, musicians, and captains.

So basically everything they've said they don't want to do yet I'd buy it all full price in a heart beat.

>>169870381
Siege defence is normally easy as pie. How much of a difference does DeI actually make?

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>>169866501
lets go doods

How do I get enemy heroes roaming my land to fuckoff?

>>169871748
That would be a better xpac than the chaos daemon one speculated here everytime.

>>169871826
hell no

So when do regements of renown come to rest of the nations?

>>169871998
CA said they most likely won't add content for DLC races anymore

>>169871998
Not any time soon
Maybe they'll add em with the expansion if we're lucky

>>169871381
the red skill that boosts peasant defense and moral gives you a semi functional anvil against most factions

>>169871907
Recruit your own hero
Assassinate them

You think Alberic de Bordeleaux is torn between his reverence for Manaan and the Lady?

>>169866501
HERE WE GO

Who is the best melee fighter ?

>>169872672
Grimgor/Grombrindal/Vlad/Durthu/Kholek
One of them, I dunno which

>>169866501
Rolling

>>169872672
Kholek is best at anti-infantry because his size is immense and it helps him cycle-charge
Archaeon is best at killing other heroes I believe

>>169872697
Mannlet is the better anti-hero Vampire Legendary Lord; though I think if you can get the Red Duke he might be better

Vlad is just the best commander

So why would I ever want peasants when I can have glorious knights? Aside from spears being a thing, couldn't questing knights replace swordsmen?

Holy shit Gelt's 2nd Volan quest battle is hard, a 20 v 40 empire units.

I'm thinking about cheesing it with a straight stack of greatswords/steam tanks/demigryphs.

Anyone else beaten this quest?

Also, why does Volgrim have an obsession with kislev?

just about finished my bretonnia campaign. Do all traits tell you how you got them now or is it only for bret traits? Don't know if I could go back to the old way now

>>169872697

It's Archaon.

>>169872615
Why would he be?
One he prays to before boarding a ship, the other before riding into battle.

>>169871486
>harsh trait
afaik executing and taking on prisoners both give that trait

Got a question.
Is there an additional unmarked requirement for Gelt's Pegasus mount? He's at level 15 in my current campaign, but the skill still is locked.

>>169873343
only bret

>>169871918
All together it's a lot but it's also the kind of stuff you can just slowly drip feed into the games as they go on.

To be honest I just want them to shove in as much content as they can for Warhammer.

>>169873502
I've also gotten it from just occupying settlements. No looting or anything.

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Share yours.

What's a mod that removes AI unit stats bonus on higher difficulties?

>>169873769
the in game options menu

>>169866501
>morghur the shadowgrave
he new? dont think i remember ever seeing him

>>169873769

Not him but does it count against very hard/legendary achievements if you turn the battle difficulty to a level where the AI doesn't get autistic unit buffs?

>>169874046
He came out in the wood elves update

So the free faction turned out to be much less powerful than the p2w ones or not?

How do you like Brets so far, lads?

>>169874073
You can not change battle difficulty on legendary difficulty.

>>169874121

Ah what a load of ass. Dorfs are hard enough to fight as orcs early game, the buffs make it virtually impossible.

>>169874073
>does it count against very hard/legendary achievements
nope, still counts but on legendary you can't turn it down

>>169874028

What level is the one where they have no stat buffs?

>>169874092

>p2w

I don't think you know what that term means anon.

>>169866501
Roll the boat!

>get unicorn for damsel
>she's precariously balanced on its fine-haired back in a silk dress with both legs over one side and both her hands occupied with weapons

Is this... comfortable/even possible without a saddle? How is she staying on when this thing is at speed?

>>169874241
normal

>>169874556
magic, she's the servant of an elf after all

>>169874715
I don't like it. From investigating that ass further, I can see that 1. it is eating up that dress, and 2. she isn't even sitting on it, she is sitting on the unicorn with her left hip, this is silly.

>>169874864
MAGIC

Am I the only one extensively using Grail Reliquae?
I see so many people ignoring them, but imo it's almost like playing VC without corpse carts

>>169875185

It's probably the most important unit they have to be honest.

It keeps your infantry in place way longer so you have far more time to clear out enemy cav and hammer and anvil.

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My God, this was hard af

>>169875254
If you combine it with a Life Damsel you can make your peasants a really tough nut to crack or elevate your Foot Squires to a whole new level.

>>169875393
Look on the bright side. It could have been Hagbane tipped Glade Guard. Now THAT is some annoying shit.

Can humans conquer wood elf lands and vice versa?

>>169875393
WE are a real bitch to fight as Brets. Their archers melt your peasants in seconds and the fact that their army core consists of really capable anti large troops gives your cav no room to breathe

That's why I allied them and let them fight Chaos/beastmemes for me

>>169875490
Elves can conquer anything
Humans can only burn the elf trees down.

>>169875582
>Humans can only burn the elf trees down

BRING WOOD AND OIL

>>169875490
Humans can only sack/raze.
WE can make shutty outposts everywhere if they want

>>169875408
Battle pilgrims+reliquae+Damsel and all my anvil problems went away

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That damsel tho.

Thoughts on Bretonnia? I love them currently.

>>169876009

how

>>169876156
They're fun and actually feel unique despite being a "generic" medieval knight faction.
Props to CA for actually giving a shit about making a decent FLC faction

So with the Bretonia dlc is there any new unlockable leaders?

>>169873384
Vlad beats Archaon handily

>>169876456

I thought we were talking about lore.

>>169876392
Nope

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>>169863423
MOOT SUBFACTION ARMY WITH OGRE MANEATERS.

And more Gobbins'.

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So what's the deal now?
What's being devoloped next do we know friendos?

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>>169876698

Next expansion that will be separate to the first game

>>169876513
shame

Strigoi Ghoul King > other Vampires

They should link this game with Vermintide, Mordheim and Man-o-war.

For instance, if you attack someone at sea, you have option "Resolve battle in Man-o-war."

If that "skaven abduct citizens" even happens you can choose to resolve it in special solo/duo Vermintide match.

Mordheim can be used to boost income.

Must have mods right now?
most of Kelstr's mods are completely out of date

>>169876879
Mah nigga.

Only good vampire.

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>le Saracen

Are there any factions that will be DLC?

Game 1
>Empire
>Warriors of Chaos
>Greenskins
>Vampire Counts
>Dwarfs
>Bretonnia
>Beastmen
>Wood Elves

Game 2
>Dark Elves
>High Elves
>Lizardmen
>Skaven

Game 3
>Deamons of Chaos
>Ogre Kingdoms
>Chaos Dwarf
>Tomb Kangs

Is there anyone i am forgetting? It seems like the next few games wont have such an aggressive DLC plan, and there is no space for new faction DLC.

>>169877093
you do know there were as much as up to three saracene knights (often brothers) in Arthurian mythos, and they were treated as equals by Christian knights, right?

>>169876978
Better camera
Better Trade
Home region movement bonus
Better building icons

That's all I use right now

>>169877112
It's possible that game 3 consists of 4 DoC factions for each chaos god and that OK, CD and TK are DLC.
Dunno though

>>169877112
>Dogs of War
>Kislev
>vastly different faction variants (Pestilens skaven, Vampire pirates, etc.)

>>169877161
If this is true, the cucking goes deeper than I ever imagined.

>>169877112
Actually people are strongly theorizing that game 3 will just have 4 factions of chaos demons.

The other three you listed are to be implied dlc factions. Well that and god knows how many freebee sub-factions along the way. All i know is i want a faction that can stand up to the bloody dwarves and empire properly for once, skaven and chaos dwarves i believe in you.

>>169877278
in good christian knights' defense, the saracenes normally either were "I'll complete my great quest (normally Beast Glatisant or something) and then I will convert to worship Jesus" or they get beaten in duel by Arthur or Lancelot or Galahad and go all "I see your god is stronger, I'll go convert now".

>>169873421
Dramatic tension.

>>169877278
People who should kill themselves:
[x] (You)

so how does one "intercept" the armies moving through Worldroots or Underway?
I understand Beastpaths cross clearing occasionally where they can be intercepted, but Worldroots are entirely magical means of transportation and Underway is deep below ground.

>"Hans, put your ear to the ground. What do you hear?"
>"A rithmic throb. Very faint."
>"Aha, it's the dwarfs! DIG, MEN! DIG FAST AND DEEP!"

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Am i just shit at using Bretonnia or was this army superior to mine, im on VH battle difficulty.

Even direct charges did fuck all to the wardancers, and even though my line held for a little while they got no kills.

>>169877198
>>169877293
I am hoping the leak is not true, the different gods should just be done like the different Bretonnia dukedoms there is no need for an entire game where all the faction have the same units aside from one or two daemons.

>>169877226
Would they not just be a campaign pack for Empire sort of like the grim and the grave.

>>169877112
Game 2 will have Luthor Harkon, an Orc Pirate and some famous High Elf Captain and Dark Elf Pirate

>>169877694
did you try
________hammer & anvil_______?

>>169877925
Yeah thats the only way i was able to win, i smashed half the army with hammer and anvils then had to spend 5 minutes kiting the wardancers so that i could charge isolated groups.

>watery harlot

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Oi mate you call this shrapnel? this a fooken mornin drizzle on a good day, innit lads

>>169864998
>40k is thriving
not for too long

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>When it's the french and they have artillery

>>169864998
>it's far superior because I like it more

>>169877826
it will be chaos undivided, with a standalone expansion where you fight for the contol of chaos teritories with your Flavored god.


remember that it's not only the grand campaign in the 3 in 1 final game. It has to be playable by it's own, and kangz chinese fats and chorfs can't be playable in a standalone game

>Bretonnia was the last DLC, wait, so no Lord pack? What about Old friend, was that really just Isabella or what?

>>169877694
>taking 3 units of spears and 3 units of anti large cav against wood elves
Either take spears or anti large cav but dont that much of both

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>When the general is in your artillery unit and it's nappy in person and you're mortally afraid of letting people down

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>>169878387
God fights on the side with the best artillery. - Boney N

>>169876978
Difficulty has no effect on morale
No Great power
No public order penalties from difficulty
Home region movement buff
Better cam

And if you're playing on VH/Legendary then something that turns off agents assassinations. Seriously, you literally cant keep any of your lords alive the moment chaos arrives because they spawn 20 agents across the map.

>>169878510
Using a modded unit size for bigger batteries?

>>169878492
Old friend is darkness
("Hello darkness my old friend...")
darkness = absence (of light) = emptiness = nothing = no DLC
basically, it was joke

>>169878726
No, it's howitzers modded to fire round shot, except the range is 2000 and there's 1000 cannonballs per shot with a 30 degree spread

>>169878224
>>169878387
>>169878510
this is so... beautiful

i never appreciated artillery before I met TWs

>>169878787

bravo reddit

>>169878510
THE BIG BANG!

>>169878898
>bravo reddit
butthurt man-thing

>>169878823
>the range is 2000 and there's 1000 cannonballs per shot with a 30 degree spread
ARE YOU A GOD?

>>169876217
windblast. It shreds light infantry skeletons fall apart, I also hit them while they were massed up

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>>169879145
>playing campaign with that mad
>having a full stack of howitzers

Plz anon. Do it.

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Funny the reinforcing dwarf in blackfire pass is called oathkeeper

>turn 70 as Bretonnia
>country is united
>12000 income per turn
>all 3 LLs ready with their armies

So... where do I go now? Apparently Chaos just showed up, so I could go North and slap their shit.

>>169863423
Most everything said previously:
Fleshed out human factions + araby, kislev etc.
Standard bearers, marching band etc.
Dogs of war
Dont think an entire subworld is necessary but making maps that aren't corridors would be good.
Certain magic being more effective but possibly catastrophic for your own team.
Some kind of progressive multiplayer system that isn't only used by cheesing faggets(not sure how to implement without throwing balance completely out).
Multi stage siege maps. Field Battle into Wall Assault into a fight for the Town Square. Even if it's one map leading into another based on win/lose conditions.
Expanded Voicework and interaction in the diplomacy screens, characters respond to certain things with voice rather than text. particularly for GOBBOS and other fun factions
Polish when it comes to audio instances lore, all the nice flavour text should be relevant and make sense to the current game. Refer to things correctly etc.

As long as we're able to play all the main armies and theres enough room for interaction between all factions i'll be happy. Anything else is a bonus.

>>169877161
REE
Muslims get off my Glastonbury Tor

>>169879334
Crusade Norsca and cleanse it.

>some people say Bretonnia is fucking OP
>some people say Bretonnia is weak and can't beat anyone
>some people say Bretonnian economy is brilliant and better than Empire's
>some people say Bretonnian economy sucks balls

I don't understand.

>>169863423
Underway being an actual map.

>>169879334
crusade badlands, crusade not-scandinavia, crusade chaos, crusade welfs, crusade dwarfs, crusade empire, crusade vampires

>>169879448
You see, there's complete shitters in this thread, and then there's people who can actually play the game.

>>169879448
Bretonnia economy is definitely stronger
You can easily make 7k running with 4 armies with just the country unified

Those farms man

>>169863423

Absolute top of the list for me are in order:

>fleshed out Middenland with all storm of chaos units included along with knights panther/knights of the white wolf, would gladly pay for this
>fleshed out Araby with their full warmaster army roster along with some CA OC, would gladly pay for this
>ungrim moved to karak kadrin and slayer variants/heroes added along with goblin hewer, wouldn't pay for this though

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What do?
I think their army will fuck me up p good

>>169875393
>using shieldless troops vs elves
>2 (TWO) grail reliquary
>generic peasant bowmen and not fire/poison

>>169879787
nice sturdy anvil, decent amount of cav and T H R E E trebs, you should be fine

>>169879787
>turn 42
>Marienburg is still up
What even
You can probably just meet both their armies in the field and crush them.

>>169879448
They're OP as fuck, but their shock cav is only as good as you are. AI doesn't cycle charge and it sucks ass as Bretonnia - I assume it's the same for some shitters.

What unit should i use as my main line as Bretonnia?

Foot knights, Men at arms, or Grail Pilgrims?

>>169879854
I took Gorsell & gave them a peace treaty farm orcs and build up my army and shit.

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Marienburg burns

>>169879879
Whichever you prefer.
Foot Squires can rip up armored enemies, but they'll be annihilated by archers in turn.
Men at arms are cheap and shielded.
Battle Pilgrims are pretty much a straight improvement over men at arms.

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>postponed conquering marienburg as Leoun because too busy with other shit
>the Empire takes it
>don't want to break treaties to take it back because chivalry is all
fugging hell, now I just have to hope that someone else burns in down so that I can retake it, but the sarl leader is a fucking passive/defensive craven. Note that the screen is old so Marienburg still has the city, thats not the case anymore

Should I pick Isabella for kickass campaign bonuses or Vlad so I actually start with something better than chaff?

>>169880038
Vlad actually has better campaign bonuses though

>>169879990
>because too busy with other shit
Marienburg is basically the only thing you can do that early on.
Farming orcs is unchivalrous and is there only to reveal you as a craven.

>>169866501
Rolling

>>169879879
A combination of squires and men at arms/pilgrims
Also bring a Grail Reliquae and Life damsel to make your line a lot more sturdy

>>169880080
but buffing Vamps... extra Vamps... ain't that whole shtick of Von Carsteins?

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Threadly reminder that you are a shitter if you can't take Marienburg on turn 2 on any difficulty

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>"T-t-the T-TRUE v-von Carstein, guys, t-the t-true! You hear? T-THE T-TRUE!"

>>169880157
Uh, no? Vamps are situational heroes at best. Necromancers on Corpse carts offer a lot more utility and Strigoi ghoul kings are objectively better army leaders than regular vampire lords.

>>169880102
I got invaded immediately by 4 skaeling stacks as the game started, also a beastmeme stack, and the orcs tunneled into Artois which I had confederated so I had to fight them there, and then the manlet tribe nearby attacked me, and marienburgers were on the massive offensive, and I got an event that lowered leadership of peasants and had public order problems, and I am playing on legendary

I was way too busy fighting all of those cunts to take out Marienburgers

>Manlett wont fucking die
>fucks up the north while I siege his shitty cities and keep angry dwarfs at bay
>chaos happens and the northern part of empire is full on ruined settlements and chaos cunts can just waltz their way to my cities

Fucking dickhead.

>>169880206
>marienburg doesn't already have two full stacks there
LMAO how is easy working out for you?

>>169877112

Even if they don't do any DLC races for game 2, they can still shell out a fuckton of factions and lord packs thanks to all 4 theorized factions having a fuckton of units. Especially Skaven, they could easily sell like 4 separate Skaven DLCs slowly adding more clans, lords and units if they were crazy enough.

>>169880256
Oh. Skaeling invasion only happened by turn 40 for me, didn't know they could be that aggressive.
I-I'm sorry, noble knight.

>>169880206
...as Dwarfs.

>>169880245
but I wanted to fill army with vamps and chop things up by sexy goth chicks!

also I ain't got the DLC for either CC or uglyheads

>>169880313
yeah, the game is pretty lore-fathful

>>169880336
it was done on Very Hard in that example, the AI doesn't recruit two full stacks within 1 turn

And even so more Swordsmen spam wouldn't have changed the outcome

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>>169880363
oh, don't get me wrong, they came back by about turn 40 too, but that time I was better prepared to fuck em up

THE ENNEMY IS BADLY BLOODIED

>>169880336
>projecting this hard

If you can't take Marienburg Turn 2 you're a shitter, it's as simple as that.

>>169880363
>>169880424
>tfw Skaeling somehow got Defensive and Passive traits in my campaign and haven't moved out of Norsca once they conquered it all

What is this shit

Why are are people asking about the skaven?
There is is no such thing as as ratmen

>>169880471
HORNS OF CLAY

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>>169880228
Do you need to get rekt again, Manny?

>>169862692
Any suggestions for the bretonnians before i start my campaign?

Bretonnian Knights have bretty neat banter when fighting dorfs

>>169880506
they have those traits in my game too, but first they sent two major invasions, one nearly instantly, in like 5-6 turns and another larger one later on, maybe some 30-40 turns into the campaign

maybe its scripted?

SUMMON

>>169866501
rollo

>>169880614
Louen a best.
Chivalry = all.

>>169880628
like what?

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>>169880471
>THE ENEMY IS BADLY BLOODIED
>You're fighting the Turks as Byzantines or Mamluk Egypt as a Crusader Army

>>169880663
What difficulty are your playing on? I'm at VH campaign difficulty and at turn 73. They ignored me for the entire game so far, as I said. I don't have any mods on that influences AI behaviour either, so I really don't get what's going on in my game.

what would be a better faction for learning how to git gud as cavalry ( because playing as Bretonnia made me realise that i've not bothered with a cavalry heavy army since medieval 2 ). The Huns or the Avars in charlemagne

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>>169880683
THE TRUE VON CARSTEIN

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>>169880605
damn I miss the old Warhammer art

>>169880206
how do you deal with the towers? i tried staying far back and focussing the towers with my trebuchets but the towers killed them even with a unit to stand infront and absorb the arrows, did i just have bad luck?

>>169880723
>tfw THE ENEMY KING IS DEAD! WE HAVE SENT THE IDIOT TO HELL!

>>169880827
I just miss when GW had an actual art department and didnt just commission shit from DA

>>169880754
Not him, but they got all up in my shit on Hard. Did you go on a Norsca genocide at all?

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>>169880683
GOBBLA

>>169880846
It's easiest to take out the two towers on the far left. You can use Louen to bait tower fire as well, you just have to zigzag with him in front of them. Make sure the peasants stand directly in front of the Trebuchets.

>>169880918
alright thanks, i'll try that now

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Why is Vlad so goddamn based?
Why do I love Vlad so much?

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>>169880886
Gobbla's dead, anon.

>>169880871
No, I set the treefuckers ablaze instead and went to fuck shit up in the Badlands.

>>169881004
Absolutely chivalrous. That's probably why they didn't bother you.

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>>169880683
THE HORSEMEN

>>169880758

Huns

>>169881059
>Louen is a pretty okay dude

t. Felman Ingersson

>>169880989
>tfw suck shit as vamp cunts

I just suck at the army comp

>>169880758
huns are the absolute masters of horsefuckery anon

White huns are an easier campaign though

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>>169880996
STOP IT

>>169880758
huns, although they are a very different brand of horsefuckery than the brettonians

>>169881123
Grave guard w GW
Blood Knights
Vargheists
Corpse carts + Mortis engine

There is your free win army comp

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>>169862692
Estalian dogs, tis what happens if you disrespect m'lady

>>169880989
because he's an interesting and well-written (anti-)villain, who has pretty understandable and dare I say noble goals, and though his methods are somewhat dark and harsh, they may or may not be warranted in the setting. As such, he is not a "Huehuehue, I'm soooo evulll!" villain that this setting runs on, and in the end he is undermined not by any vice or sin, as most villains are, but by his belief that his children in darkness can and will be as noble and decent as himself.

Seeing as trusting those who owed everything to him was his downfall when he was doing best for the Empire in its dark days, it's hard not to feel sympathy for him.

The game should allow to mix units from diffrent factions freely.
Also you should be able to capture anything, but town's faction shouldn't change, so if you capture a karak, you get access to dorf buildings and units, etc.

>>169881510
sounds dumb

How do you start Fay Enchantress' campaign? Can you stop the orc event at all as her?

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WE are a such good neighbors.

I don't want to investigate the technology that gives -50 with them.
They offered me a trade agreement, they joined the war against chaos, they offer military access,,,

>>169881510
Oh hi Radios.

>>169881510
That sounds terrible.

>>169881510
Fuck off

>>169881552
>Your Lady will smile upon my offer
What did he mean by this?

>>169881510
no thanks, luckily CA isn't that retarded

>>169881552
I wanted to be friends with them, but they decided to attack my ally Parravon instead.
Chivalry commands that I set fire to the Oak of Ages in return

>>169881510
neck yourself

>>169881625
>Your Lady will smile upon my offer, because she's in a good moon, having been fucked by our Araloth boy overhere real hard this morning.

>>169881529
>>169881570
>>169881590
>>169881609
>>169881676
but in HoMM it's okay!

I'd like to start a Skarsnik playthrough, any tips on how to do it without getting buttraped? Since you can only get gobbos for quite a while I'm assuming the Arachnarok will have to do all the heavy lifting, yes? What's your army composition like early on, and how do you deal with those pesky 80+ armour dwarfs?

>>169881625
>I promise you that
What did he mean by this?

>>169876489
Grimgor is probably the strongest melee fighter if we are talking lore here.

>>169881786

Archaon fought a literal god to a standstill and beat Franz. He's also virtually unkillable

>>169881718
This isn't HoMM though, also HoMM is a self-contained fantasy universe where that shit might actually pass in the lore

>play warhammer on release and it runs perfectly fine with no problems
>try to play now and every time more then 3 units are in combat the framerate dies
o-ok, i'll just play attila then

>>169863423
>>169879472
This. Lots of passages and rooms, small and wide. Special units that can reopen collapsed/blocked pathways. Deployable barricades pre-battle for them as well.

Also, field fortifications, trenches and such, with the possibility to choose the battlefield beforehand so your camp doesn't start in the middle of a lake or something. The current encampment is meh.

Raiding from the sea and naval battles. Norsca should be more like Norsca.

Cannons should be able to switch to indirect (45 degrees) fire for extended range at the cost of accuracy.

A supply caravan unit that resupplies ammo in an aura.

All units should be able to at least spread out to minimize casualties from enemy fire.

>Empire vs Empire
>The defender has all their troops in trenches on a hill
>The attacker has massed artillery firing at it from far away while his infantry charge
>we ww1 now

>diplomacy with Mannfred

>>169881830
And that's why i can't take this memetic lore seriously

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WHEN?

>>169882078
Archaon is probably the worst part about it.

He is built on the tears of a butthurt GW

>>169881510
>Karl franz leading army of undead

>>169881786
>can't win against archaon's lieutenant

What do you guys think will be the next expansions of Warhammer Total War?

My take is that we'll get one containing the parts of the New World (Ulthuan and big chunks of Lustria and Naggaroth) with the factions:
High Elves
Dark Elves
Lizardmen
and possible Skaven.


We'll also see one expansion containing the Dark Lands and the northern parts of the Southlands which will include the factions:
Tomb Kings.
Chaos Dwarfs
Ogre Kingdoms.

Daemons of Chaos will probably end up as a free DLC down he road. Hopefully we'll also see proper Warriors of Chaos with the correct representation from their gods.

>>169881726
keep your spider and squigs alive, squigs make for good rear charges. make use of skarsniks GOBBO bonuses. Gobbos are now right scrappy gits and you can replenish any losses to your army right quick.
GONNA STAB EM

>>169882078
He has a cool helmet tho.

>>169882205
Daemons of Chaos could potentially also be included in the "New World-expansion" if it contains a chunk of the Northern Wastelands. Ideally this chunk would connect the Naggaroth with the Old World and allow for both tribal infighting amongst Chaos Warbands/tribes and land conquests.

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>>169881552
>>169881625

>>169880754
I am playing on legendary

>>169882205
They said they are gonna have pre-order dlc for next expansion, i have no idea what it could even be.

>>169882316
Archaeon was literally an edgy nerd priest that was bullied after learning he was a rape-child, then he decided to teleport behind everyone that opposed him and psst'ed them to death personelly.

Can we have history back please?

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>>169882205

I am going to say that Helves and Delfs are next since there were files released with wood elves that talked about crossbow animations for elves.

Probably wrong though.

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>>169882507
Have some fantasy landsknecht.

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What kind of warrior priest recruitment you want pham?

>>169882604
As far as historicity goes, all the basic empire units are pretty good.

>>169882729
They are the best. No other setting does it.

AND IT'S FUCKING DEAD ;_;

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>that chaos Bretonnia event

They really need to go back and redo the older factions like Empire and give them cool shit like this.

>>169882848

Beastmen have a similar event

>>169882720
>level 18

Love doing that shit. Same with min-maxing so you can recruit triple gold/silver ranked troops.

Any Attila alternate pos mod that still works and doesn't crash after 3 turns?

>>169881726
Flanking with nasty skulkers (I might be misremembering the unit name).

And it is actually feasible to do a Skarsnik campaign with just Gobbos, given how much he can buff them.

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>>169882604

>you will never slaughter the Empire's many enemies then get buried in a mass corpse pile fighting chaos fucking shits

Why even live bros

>>169882507
>edgy nerd priest
Bullshit. He was just a normal cleric warrior, then suddenly his brothers attacked him, because the prophecy book told them (why the fuck did they even read a chaos tome) that he was the chosen Chaos guy. And then he turns insane when his whole life was predicted by a stupid book.

Hell, he was never bullied. Just found in the wild by a priest after his mother didn't want him as a rape-baby.

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>>169871210
YES!

>>169882458
If that's the case then Daemons of Chaos would be quite a good contender, and quite suited if they choose to include the overland route between The Old World and the New. Having WoC-factions that are worshippers of a single deity, lead by the Glottkin, Valkia the Bloody, Vilitch the Curseling, etc along with Luthor Harkon would make for great DLC's down the line.
Throgg would have been a really fun DLC legendary lord to play as also, allthough he would have been more suited as a DLC for the first game.

What DLC's legendary lords do y'all think we'll see in the future?
>>169882576

Yeah that's probably right.
Up untill the release of the Wood Elves I was fairly certain that they would be the DLC for the last expansion which would've been the Elven/New World one.

>>169881543
Send help, I don't want to sit in my goddamn city """farming""" orcs for 20 goddamn turns. It's unchivalrous and I have crusades to go on.

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>>169882809
A total war with 16-17th century as the middle period would be fucking amazing.

>Thirty years war
>Dutch independence war
>Holy League versus Ottomans
>British Parliamentarians and the Jacobites
>Colonizable world
>Ships are in the sweet spot design-wise where they have to slug it out
>Cortez, Aztecs, Mayans, Incans
>TERCIO
>TRUM TRUM TARUM TUM TUM
>DIE LANDSKNECHT ZIEH'N IM LAND HERUM

>They'll never march to the next fight singing this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08g_IcFXLcM