/drg/ Danganronpa General

>>169763305
These survivors are basically the main couple and a bunch of homosexuals. And a robot.

So, better than what we got.

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>two breads

>We control life, Saihara, at all its levels. You are imagining that there is something called human nature which will be outraged by what we do and will turn against us. But we create human nature. Men are infinitely malleable. Or perhaps you have returned to your old idea that the viewers or the cast will arise and overthrow us. Put it out of your mind. They are helpless, like the animals. Humanity is Danganronpa. The others are outside - irrelevant.

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>>169763453
>main couple
Boring.

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Is Shirogane growing on anyone else?

>>169763494
Kodaka go to bed.

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>>169763670
That's probably a brain tumor. See a doctor right away.

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DRV3 where everything is the same but Korekiyo's sister is now his brother, and onii-chan wants male friends instead of female friends.

Who would be on Korekiyo's kill list in C3 since Tenko and Angie are out?

>>169763815
You shouldn't say those things about the mother of your child, Amami

>>169763670
I like her before she's reviwed to be the mastermind. Now I like her again.

>>169763847
Gonta/Kaitoand Saihara

>>169763103
Yes, that one!

>>169763180
The fun part about chapter 1's trial is that while he spent a lot of time being a complete nuisance, it's clear from his observation about Amami's Monopad and how he acted like he was agreeing with everyone else that it wasn't important after all that he was already mulling why the two things he saw seem to conflict.

Basically: Amami was holding onto his Monopad in all of the photos, yet everyone who examined the Monopad said it held no important info.

It's confirmed Shirogane stole Amami's Monopad, right? So from there we can conclude the one everyone else found was a Monopad just like theirs and she stole Amami's Monopad as it was proof that a mastermind was among one of them.

Next, she frames Kaede because Kaede conveniently set up the trap and she believed Saihara's hypothesis that the mastermind was one of them, and in having Kaede brutally executed she made sure none of them would suspect each other of being the mastermind, while Saihara pretty much got a power nerf because he thought he was wrong.

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What were your predictions for everyone's personalities pre-release that you got totally wrong?

>Tsumugi: overdramatic and quick to emotion; like a less cynical/mean touko
>Tenko: Arrogant and prideful, more haughty/smug in her superiority than bitter towards men
>Gonta: Very shy and geeky, but intelligent to contrast with his appearance
>Himiko: Cynical moneygrubber
>Kiibo: Logical and unemotional
>Kaito: I'll admit to being one of the people who thought weedman 2.0 or leon 2.0

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>>169764514
I thought Korekiyo was a Gundham reference personality-wise, and I thought Maki was going to be a lot less violent. I do like actual Korekiyo a lot better than what I thought he was going to be though.

Also i'm with you for thinking Kaito was Hagakure's Return.

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Spike Chunsoft's first ever international press event is March 2nd. Hopefully we'll get something new for V3.

>>169763180
Ouma was fucking useless the first trial and was missing for most of chapter 1 while saying not much of value when he was around, pretty much making you think he was a complete joke character. Maki came across as a cold, distant rival type. Kaito was also useless and acted like Weedman 2.0. Saihara was basically in the background the entire time but giving helpful hints a la Kirigiri. Basically, they all hit character tropes of the games before that you'd expect, so their actual roles would be more surprising.

If you didn't spend months pouring over pre-release materials and trailers looking for clues, the protagonist switch was hidden pretty well, even within the first chapter and trial.

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>>169738474

>>169765007
>the protagonist switch was hidden pretty well, even within the first chapter and trial.
I'm pretty sure Kaede got 4 FTE times, but could only FTE someone twice, which was a pretty big giveaway.

>Ouma was fucking useless the first trial
He mostly messed with people. It also started his and Miu's antagonistic relationship, because he kept accusing her of being the culprit.

>>169764063
If you look at Chapter 1, you can see that the whole thing was deliberately set up to fuck over Kaede and Rantaro.

Shirogane had to know about the rewards that Rantaro got and used it to her advantage to isolate and kill him.

The two-day deadline was in response to Kaede's assertion that no one will kill each other and eventually forced her to set a trap that, even if it missed, would have given Shirogane the oppotunity to kill Rantaro and frame Kaede anyway.

Don't forget that Shirogane had cameras to see what was going on and Kaede defended her without even checking her alibi.

It was all a trap from the beginning to destroy the trust and convince Shuichi to abandon the mastermind idea when he should have held on to it.

>>169765273
What is he going to do with that

>>169764514
>Shuichi: Total madman and complete sadist. Meekness is simply a facade to mask his insanity and throw others off his trail.
>Korekiyo: Contrary to his creepy appearance, is actually pure-hearted and has a good moral compass. Has everyone's best interests in mind. Also a good leader.
I'm positive there's nobody who was more wrong than me. I just wanted everybody to defy their stereotypes, damnit.

>>169764995
>right before BOTW

If Chunsoft gives me dubbed voices, and Matthew Mercer is voicing Ryoma and someone who doesn't suck is voicing Ouma, this will truly be the greatest week.

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>>169765273
DELETE THIS

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>>169765035
You. You're my favorite. Perfection.

>>169765035
What the legitimate fuck, this is beautiful. Holy shit drawfriend.

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>>169765451
If they're not using Hayter I'm always down for Mercer.

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>>169765434
It's okay anon. Even though they were the complete opposite of what you predicted, you can always use those interpretations on the normies!

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Cute

>>169765007
Basically, if you weren't playing detective and you didn't think something important was hidden in the demo you'd probably have fallen for the ruse too.

> He mostly messed with people. It also started his and Miu's antagonistic relationship, because he kept accusing her of being the culprit.

Yeah, Ouma spent a lot of time making himself look like a complete idiot and it's something you'd assume to be his natural character, unless you noticed that he seemed curious about Amami's Monopad.

Then chapter 6 happens and you start to wonder how much of what Ouma was doing on-screen was an act besides the "I'm so evil" bit.

>>169765316
Yeah, it was very lucky for everyone that Ouma noticed something suspicious about Amami having his Monopad with him, because if he hadn't made that observation and let his guard down like everyone else things would have gone far worse than they actually did.

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>>169765434
AU where Korekiyo became the protagonist after Kaede left to go hang with Amami

>He still harbors feelings for his sister and is still our tulpaman
>His sister functions as the female 'sidekick' who gives good - if violent - advice throughout the whole game
>korekiyo has the urge to let his sister "befriend" more people but holds it down
>he's trying to amend for his previous killings because of [REDACTED] so is a lot less murderous
>serves as a good but creepy leader
>uses his love of humans to boost morale and get through the game, see pic related
>still becomes bros with kaito who tries to help korekiyo get into shape
>saihara is the c3 killer instead

Imagine the FTEs.

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I want to request Miu lewds. Who are some good artists?

>>169765769
True that! Definitely a silver lining.

>>169765996
>His sister functions as the female 'sidekick' who gives good - if violent - advice throughout the whole game
Why can't this be a thing?

>>169765996
> Everyone's complaining killers keep getting to the end, so why not make the serial killer the protagonist this time?

A+ would laugh again, but certainly it'd be hilarious.

Saihara friends' power form
http://m.imgur.com/bvdD1zi?r

>>169765996
>kaito who tries to help korekiyo get into shape
What did you mean by this

>>169766350
Wha- what- what is this!?
Why!?

>>169766350
>korekiyo
>friend
lol

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>>169766036
Maybe I'll get this done one day

>>169766426
So ATKfag and Tulpafag can live together.

>>169765996
God damnit, I would kill for this. Also
>still becomes bros with kaito who tries to help korekiyo get into shape
They'd be the perfect odd couple. The times they interact in canon usually ended with Kaito freaking out over whatever paranormal nonsense Korekiyo's was rambling about. Imagine in this AU Korekiyo trying to help Kaito get over his fear of the occult.
and then imagine Korekiyo passing out and possibly vomiting from Kaito's intense workout routines. poor Tulpaman, somebody save him.

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>>169766568
>saihara will never travel all over the world with tulpaman because of FIKUSHON

So, Kaito said everyone's the protagonist of their own story. Excluding Saihara and Shirogane, write an AU summary of how you think the story would be like with character of your choice as the protagonist.

>>169766741
>tfw your OC backfire
Feels bad man.

Miu gets turned on when Hiyoko insults her. Sometime just after the 8 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzyLTk9tuYQ

>>169766616
>imagine Korekiyo passing out and possibly vomiting from Kaito's intense workout routines
Kek
This is the kind of shit that makes me want spin-offs and side material even 4komas would be fine

>>169765996
Okay this is a really darn good idea.... I hope some writeanon takes this idea and runs with it

>>169765007
>>169765836

If you look at the other characters, it applies to them as well.

Everyone thought Yumeno would be killed, when she not only lived, she became the Fuyuhiko (developed as a result of a death) and Aoi (scarred by the deaths of others) analogue.

Everyone thought Tenko would be like Mahiru when she turned out to be like Ibuki despite her distaste for boys. (which had a better justification)

Everyone thought Angie would be like Aoi or Ibuki when she turned out to be way too creepy and was horribly out there.

Most of the characters can't be trusted by appearances. (Korekiyo and Kirumi excepted)

>>169765996
How would chapter 6 go with the twist? Is he going to have the Meltdown of the century when he finds out his neesan was implanted onto him? Would his split personality try to convince him that she's real?

>>169767009
She gets turned on whenever anyone insults her
Just imagine the waterfal in her pants if Saihara insulted her

>>169766350
That just looks like post apocalyptic road warrior Saihara, who ran out of clothes and had to wear the clothes off his friend's dead bodies.

>>169767018
>passing out
>implying not enjoying it due to pain
Maybe out of happiness I bet.

>>169767145
Toko's insults didn't turn Miu on.

>>169767219
Whenever someone she likes insults her, I meant. At least it seems that way, it's kinda inconsistent.

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>>169766765
>>169765996 winds up taking thw take ,along with this idea for ch3 that someone replyed to me with in a pervious thread. Angie and tenko would have been fascinating killers

>>169767219

Thats because Toko is a ugly cunt, you gotta be better than Miu to do it.

>>169767097
Yeah, a big point of NDRV3 is that in spite of adhering to some traditions which may be permanently done away with such as the killing game in sequels, we're already in the process of being forced to let go of our prejudices and biases.

Hopefully SC's press event will have new V3 stuff because honestly I'm pretty hyped for this new setting.

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>>169766145
>villain protag never because kodaka said no
Why is this hack always rejecting the actual good ideas?

>>169767354
>saihara gets his normie personality in killing game
>chapter 1 still goes through
>saihara isn't the protagonist, but the rival
Who would be the protagonist?

>>169767354
The problem is a villain protag is by definition the lead character except evil, ala Light from Death Note.

One of the long-standing rules of detective fiction is that the detective can't be the culprit, so even if Tulpaman was the protagonist he'd simply be one who's been a serial killer but who now catches killers.

>>169767354
Because making all the characters assholes just means the audience doesnt give a shit.

Exhibit A: Danganronpa 0.

>>169767493
Matsuda was a fucking dumbass who didn't kill Junko on sight.

>>169767354
Because it's Kodaka. He writes what he want and some idiot- I mean, some people respect him for it.

>>169765275
>He mostly messed with people. It also started his and Miu's antagonistic relationship, because he kept accusing her of being the culprit.

Him going on and on about his ~super secret evil organization~, purposefully messing with people and accusing the wrong person twice made him look like a totally harmless chuuni idiot. If you had played the game completely blind I doubt you'd think twice in saying he was Gundam/Hiyoko 2.0.

>>169765836
>Then chapter 6 happens and you start to wonder how much of what Ouma was doing on-screen was an act besides the "I'm so evil" bit.

I'd say chapter 1 Ouma is close to how he would "normally" act- a slightly chuuni manipulative prankster with a dark sense of humor, but nothing truly malicious. Had Amami and Kaede not died specifically taking on the mastermind head on, he wouldn't have felt the need or pressure to hide himself behind the BOY AM I ENJOYING THIS GAME BECAUSE I'M EVIL act because he wouldn't have seen the consequences of taking on the mastermind openly and directly. He definitely wouldn't be a sweet buddy helping out the protagonists, but he'd probably be more amicable.

>>169767618
Yeah, and he also did care more about bringing the group together in chapter 1 even if his method of calling out Kaede was mean.

His attitude in chapter 1 also appears to match how he acts in bonus mode.

What's up with Miu and drugs? First she's looking for some in the prologue, then Shuichi wonders if she took a weird drug in chapter 4 when she starts acting strangely.

>>169767354
I wish Saihara was evil, or at least a murderer.

I really wanted the detective character- who has been a very trusted archetype in the series so far- to be a culprit in the end. Either in the first chapter to totally throw out expectations for the character archetypes, or chapter 5 to make his betrayal after helping you solve the cases the entire game that much more painful and difficult.

Pre-release I pegged him as first victim/killer, or chapter 5 killer. I also wanted him to kill the madman character in that chapter, since logically the detective would kill the next most observant/unpredictable person and easily pin it on anyone else given the madman's unpopularity.

Imagine a chapter 5 trial where Saihara killed Ouma and (almost) perfectly framed someone else for it after he had done nothing but help you for the entire game. That would've been awesome.

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Is normie Kaede a cruel person?

>>169767924
She's much ruder than her SHSL self.

>>169767354
>>169767883
Anon, do you not know how mystery works. You dont make the detective the culprit....

>>169767618
>>169767850
The main problem is that he went too far in the other direction in order to secure his safety.

>>169768047

>cops are not allowed to kill

>>169763847
Gonta, Saihara, Kaito. Ouma is impure and tainted, and Kiibo doesn't have a soul.

In practical terms, this only means Gonta, because Saihara has that protagonist protection now that Kaede died for him (and no reason), and Kaito has Space AIDS protection as he needs to die from that in the most dramatic moment.

>>169768047
He wouldn't be the protagonist in this scenario. Kaede or someone else if the switch happened would be.

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Im pretty sure everyone thought Saihara was going to be a culprit and Chapter 1 is built on you thinking he did it until the big twist at the end.

I remember a lot of speculation that he would be the mastermind.

>>169767883
>Imagine a chapter 5 trial where Saihara killed Ouma and (almost) perfectly framed someone else for it after he had done nothing but help you for the entire game. That would've been awesome.

While it's obvious which of the two is the better detective, that would have been fucking awesome if it played out though our protagonist would have had to be someone other than Saihara then.

What if Kaede was the protag and there was always conflict between her, Saihara and Ouma and she ends up trusting Saihara while shutting Ouma out believing he's a bad person?

>>169768059
You would too if you were basically a human twig and the person who hates you most can kill you in seconds. Not that it justifies some of the worse things he did but it's at least not completely unreasonable.

>>169767924
Normie Kaede bullying SHSL Saihara!
Her pushing him to the ground after he accidentally bumps into her!
Her rubbing his crotch with her foot as she threatens him!
Her making fun of his boner afterward!
Her making him feel like an insignificant piece of human trash!
Her laughing as he tries to choke back and hide his tears as she repeatedly stomps on him!

>>169768059
Yep. He was blindsided by Tsumugi manipulating Maki into killing him because he made himself so evil to obscure and protect himself from the mastermind only that he didn't think the mastermind would retaliate by proxy.

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One of these is not like the other.

>>169768047
It's not a matter of what's expected or unexpected in mystery fiction in general, but what's expected or unexpected within the realm of DR. I think a big thing in DR is that absolutely anyone can be a killer, no one's innocent just because of the role they fill in the story. Thus I think a murderous detective would be a great subversion of expectations and a reminder of the grim situation they're in.

But, if you're so dead-set on the "detectives can't be killers" mindset, it could be that Saihara was lying about his talent and was never really a detective in the first place.

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Miu talks Gonta out of suiciding against the exisals after she was triggered by the remembering light. Looks like even she has a serious side.

>>169764621
Reminder she literally did this.
No wonder Shirogane hated her.

>>169767875
She likes drugs. Who cares

>>169768269
>You would too if you were basically a human twig and the person who hates you most can kill you in seconds.

That's not really his reasoning for MUH DESPAIRS. He is a human twig and could easily get physically overpowered by pretty much anyone in the game, so logically he shouldn't be making more enemies if he wants to live on that basis alone. The reason he goes so overboard with the evil is not to protect himself from the rest of the students, but to protect himself from the mastermind's suspicions as he investigated and worked against the game out of sight.

That was one hell of a gamble (that he partially lost in the end), but he probably considered the mastermind more dangerous than the rest of the students in the end and trusted in his intelligence/manipulation to keep himself alive to deem it worth it.

>>169768471
Yeah, Saihara not being an actual detective would work better.

Anyway, the point you're missing here is that since you can't investigate yourself that would spoil the mystery fiction angle which DR is in a way. Even when Kaede was the 'culprit' in chapter 1 she still told Saihara enough that you'd suspect something's up, and from Saihara's perspective as the actual protagonist he knew Kaede did something.

>>169768483
I think people tend to think Miu's completely devoid of human emotion or any compassion because of her over the top rudeness and arrogance, but she's not innately sociopathic or heartless. If she was already planning her murder plan to escape at this point, there's really no reason to talk him out of it- he'd be one less person to help everyone else figure her out if he died- other than some sense of morality.

Chapter 4 is just really sad.

>>169768832

So, besides the masterminds, does DR has a real vile villain?

Not anyone like celes who tries to be high and mighty or mindhack like Mikan, just cruelty for the sake of cruety type, I think we need a truly evil cunt next time.

>>169768832
The game makes it very obvious that her VR plan is already being worked on at that point, so her talking Gonta out of his planned attack on the exisals makes no sense.

>>169768650
Not really, he's pulling a Togami by letting the cast know that he's not playing by anyone's rules so they'd better be well-prepared if they're going to go after him, while also outing Maki to further ensure his safety.

I agree he did it more to keep away from the mastermind than anyone else, but in the end so much of him is a mystery that we can only conclude based on what we know currently that it's a survival tactic.

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Not bad.

>>169768729
Ahh, see I wasn't thinking of a scenario where Saihara's the MC. I was thinking of a case where Kaede or someone else was the MC and Saihara served as a supporting character. My bad.

I agree with you in that case then- if you were playing as a detective who turned out to be the culprit, then yeah, that'd be pretty bullshit. I can't think of a way that would work well.

>>169768832
What's even worse is that all of Miu's motives were said by Ouma, who also antagonized her in trials, so it was hard to say whether she actually just wanted to escape or was actually suicidal and decided to take Ouma, the most likely suspect to be the mastermind, out.

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>>169768930

>>169768832
People who don't like her don't think she's heartless, they think she's a rude slutty bitch.

Fuck, marry, kill:
>Kirigiri
>Chiaki
>Harumaki

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>>169769139
Monaca a cute!

>>169769190
Fuck Harumaki
Marry Kirigiri
Chiaki's already dead

Does anyone have that link to that one anon that uploaded a collection of a bunch of CGs a few threads back?

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>>169768930
Our boy comes close. Dude legit had no excuse.

I just thought
How fucking old Korekiyo's sister is? Is it correct to call her a pedo?

>>169769190
Miu
Ibuki
Mikan

>>169769275
>no mindhacc
OK.

>>169768951
> Don't suicide, just kill me after being manipulated into doing so and get executed instead!

Yeah, what the fuck?

>>169769118
Pretty much, also it'd be even more gut-wrenching as you'd be fooled into thinking Saihara was the helpful one and Ouma was nothing but trouble, only to realize after Ouma's killed that he was the actual detective. What could be more despair-inducing than that?

>>169769139

Monaca is basically like Togami, mostly talk and no bite.

I wanted Monaca to kill Komaru since Toko and Togami are basically considered safe.

>>169769275

Yeah, he comes close but he does it because neesan and mindhack, I really long for someone who does it out malice, not even fun, just ruining it for other people.

>>169769190
Fuck Harumaki
Marry Chiaki
Kill Kirigiri

>>169768930
Does Monaca count as a mastermind?

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>>169769139
I love this twisted bitch.

>>169769128
Considering Ouma was in fully Evil Villain mode, I think it would be more effective to his untouchable mastermind image to say that she got killed trying to take him out for being the most likely mastermind. It makes him look more untouchable/dangerous to try to combat.

She was working with Ouma before this and providing him (really dangerous) weaponry. If she had even an inkling that he was the mastermind, I doubt she would do that for him so readily. Additionally, if he was the mastermind, why would he go so far to get specifically anti-monokuma weaponry when he should be the one controlling them? It could be she targeted him because she truly lost faith in his plans and knew Kaito could be the easiest to frame, or another reason, but it probably wasn't because she thought he was the mastermind. After all, he doesn't start the truly evil villain ruse until after Gonta's execution. Before that he's just a dark humored troll who doesn't act any more dangerously than, say, Togami.

She also starts breaking down after seeing the flashlight and starts talking about wanting to get out, now, and that part is shown directly/not dictated by Ouma. Additionally, with the poison placed by his chair and her forcibly logging Kaito out, it's pretty clear she was trying to do a frame up job, so I don't think she was suicidal in that case.

>>169769440

Yes, she pretty much did the events of DRAE in a attempt to make a Junko 2.0

She even fits the "just a pawn" by doing it with the Warriors of hope

Togami: A cunt
Komaeda: Insane
Ouma: A cunt and insane

>>169769416
>no bite
>had a torture room devoted to messily killing adults
>brainwashed and enslaved hundreds of other children and made them mass murder adults
>repeatedly abused and psychologically tormented the rest of the WOH
>almost got the entire child population of the city killed

>>169769643

Most of that shit was offscreen and text or done with Komaeda's assistence.

Not evil because it didn't happen on screen, I wanted a dead Komaru.

And lets not forget her just giving up

>>169769416
>Monaca is basically like Togami, mostly talk and no bite.

Did you even see DR:AE.

>>169768951
There's a difference between letting someone go to a painful death unnecessarily and getting that same person executed because you're trying to survive. One is slightly more sympathetic than the other, I think.

>>169769568
She knows drugs well enough to tell them apart, yet picks a poison with such an obvious effect like eye bleeding.

>>169769630
Ouma is a right cunt and a lot of other things, but I wouldn't call him insane. He doesn't act unpredictably and his thoughts/behavior are """"logical""" if not excessively cruel, and he was able to keep up a consistent act under pressure and duress.

Komaeda had legitimate brain damage and was a completely unstable zealot who acted in unpredictable and ever-changing ways. He was actually insane.

>>169769765
>difference between letting someone go to a painful death unnecessarily and getting that same person executed because you're trying to survive
Executions are extremely brutal. See Miu's reaction to Kaede's execution for example. She thought it was very painful.

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>>169769838

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0DeIqJm4vM

>>169769568
>>169769853
It's very hard to know whether Ouma was cooperating with her or he just stole her equipment by looting her card from her corpse.

>>169769902
Yeah, a lot of people think he's insane just because of his outfit but when you actually follow his line of reasoning you can see how calculative and meticulous he actually is.

Komaeda was legitimately dangerous since he'd do anything for hope and had luck on his side, while Ouma has nothing like that and his goal isn't anything he finds nonsensical like hope.

>>169770084
Off the top of my head he got into Amami's lab early (which required her technology) and was the only one to know about the mini monokameras other than Gonta (who thought they were bugs), so the vacuum had to have had his involvement in it. I don't think the teamup was a lie.

>>169770084
>just stole her equipment by looting her card from her corpse.
That would imply she was working on an escape plan herself, which seems unlikely. She wouldn't want to get the mastermind's attention on her and it's clear that her and Ouma's banter changed as of chapter 2 to signify their partnership was already happening. He also would've needed her inventions before her death to reach some of the areas he appears to have reached earlier than the other characters.

>>169769853
Considering Miu's body was clutching her neck because she was being strangled in the VR, it suggests that some of the actions done concerning one's own body in the VR are replicated in the real world. So she could've made Ouma scratch out his eyes or stabbed them in some way to make his actual body do the same thing and thus achieve the eye bleeding effect.

>>169770359
Miu died from the shock of dying in VR. Her body had no physical wounds. Ouma wouldn't have been physically injured either.

>>169766571
Post what you've got done so far

Why do characterfags ruin their own character by imagining their character to be some sort of god? Ignoring all the stupid shit that they do and pretending they are 4D chessing with every single move they make whether they are just memeing, sneezing or even taking a shit defeats the purpose of liking a character for who they are unless they are a boring Mary/Gary sue.

Looking at you retarded theory spourting Oumafags and Zeussufags

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The school goes full actual prison and the boys and girls are strictly separated from each other and thrown into housing blocks. What happens and how long until Miu gives into the /u/ from desperation.

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Why does Angie have a gun

>>169770429
Yep, it seems strange that Miu's shown to know her drugs a few times and suddenly picks one poison whose effects can't be replicated on Ouma if she succeeds in killing him. On top of that she had no way of framing Kaito IIRC since he went to sleep and this would have been seen by the cameras, even if Monokuma didn't say anything Saihara would have been able to conclude Kaito can't have killed Ouma.

>>169770706
The retarded amami theories mostly came from the nips. I got nothing on why some oumafags makes the most braindead theories to put their senpai ouma on a pedestral then gets butthurt when people disagree with them. I hope its just those few oumafags. Wishful thinking.

>>169770706

No one plays the game for boring people

Miu's fictional backstory at 1 hour, 30 minutes in. Miu offers to open up her stomach to let Shuichi see some of her artificial parts. She uses Kibo as proof that the technology exists to create a "modified human".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CACEz_FnyeY

>>169770919
Monokuma wouldn't say that Kaito was seen by the cameras, though, because that would be directly involving himself in the trials, nor would Saihara have access to that footage. It would be only Kaito's word saying that he didn't kill Ouma with no reliable alibi.

The poison is definitely a fuckup, though.

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>>169770706
Short answer: both Amami and Ouma are characters whose motives aren't directly laid out for you so it's easier to go overboard analyzing everything they say to find the truth of what they're actually thinking or planning.

That being said there are a few oumafags who project a lot onto his character and do make him out to be some sort of perfect genius who puts meaning into literally every sentence he says. This is kind of annoying.

disclaimer I'm an oumafag and I find him a lot more interesting as a severely flawed human being who does fuck up badly and says stupid, unrelated shit for the hell of it but manages to pull off some impressive things regardless rather than some ruse god

>>169771227
And Kaito isn't the kind of person who'd use poison so what in the world was Miu thinking of, anyway?

In before people come in to say this discussion is retarded just because.

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>>169771209
I love all the absurd shit the fictional plot has to make fun of the idea of a series going on for too long.

The Monokumarz basically being the in-universe attempt at a Poochie is so funny.

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Someone help her.

>>169771570
Hard to say really. I feel like Kodaka was going for a Chihiro development where the full extent of what she did was only revealed after her death. However, in Chihiro's case it worked better because Alter Ego was basically AI Chihiro. Miu instead got the class liar who called her a meat toilet "cum dumpster" even after she was dead to explain her motivations to everyone.

>>169769295
This has been speculated already

Serial killers (even Fukawa) tend to have troubled backgrounds. There's a 'he was molested as a child' meme. It's why he acts like a girl and has problems

>>169771889
I really like how Kodaka's willing to make characters like Miu where he obviously already knows there are people who are gonna waifu her and people who are gonna hate her, but also make in-universe characters react to her bullshit appropriately.

>>169772051
Yeah, shes basically that friend nobody likes.

>>169772051
>make in-universe characters react to her bullshit appropriately.
Does that make her V3's Toko?

>>169771209
Is that why Miu wants a baby? To validate to herself that she's a real human bean?

>Miu offers to open stomach
>Saihara accepts
>she tries, ends up disemboweling herself

>>169772158
This could explain why Miu's so awkward. She doesn't think she's really human anymore. She seems to related better to machines than to people. It might be why her closet friend in the school was Kiibo.

>>169771570
Limited options. Ignoring the fact that the poison had the wrong symptoms, how else could she frame Kaito while she's in the VR world? She couldn't replicate physical wounds, like him stabbing or bashing in Ouma's head, so that left her with only something that would kill him internally.

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>>169772158
Shes just lonely and wants someone to love her.

Fan-Made "YOU'RE WRONG!" s for Ryoma, Kirumi, and Korekiyo:
https://twitter.com/yumarumaruyuma/status/836501494488694784

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Post Meido. I don't have a lot of fanart of her.

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>>169772519

>>169771517
Oumafag here, my problem with people saying he's made out to be a god or something is that they're missing the point that he's not one, he's simply so much ahead of everyone else by virtue being an extremely critical thinker.

Just like how being SHSL Detective was OP in DR, all Ouma's really doing is not agreeing with people's flawed assumptions and investigating what was overlooked on his own. He still had to burn bridges and do a lot of things he'd rather not do, and even if we assume he and Miu are actually alive that doesn't change the fact that no one who's actually pure and innocent could do the things he did.

In short, Ouma is already a complete mess of a person and he certainly doesn't have to act like a bad guy and do bad things if he can magically solve everything, therefore he's not perfect even if he really did fake his own death or whatever.

>>169772506
Those are pretty great. The way Tulpaman's hair moves in his is almost hypnotizing, damn. Makes me wish I could animate.

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>>169772268
>>169772463
HOLY SHIT I JUST CRACKED THE CODE

>Miu thinks she's part robot
>This in turn makes her socially awkward
>This in turn makes her both socially inept and attention-starved
>All she has are her inventions
>Because she thinks she is one, she's more comfortable with machines(which also lends to her social awkwardness)

>She meets Saihara
>Not only is he a beta, but he's kinda like her
>Also meets Kiibo, a full automaton, which makes her question how human she truly is if something like him can exist
>She's now hungry for Saihara's attention on multiple levels; She wants it because she was starved of for a good portion of her life; she wants his acceptance/companionship because she craves a companion due to feeling different/like an outcast, and she wants him to give her a child not only to keep him, but to prove to herself that she's not just like Kiibo and is still a human, as well as to prove to herself she can create anything

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You have to chose one to be stuck in a small closet with for 3 hours. There are no rules for either of you except for that you can't kill yourself. Which one do you pick and why.

>>169773193
>delusional Miu/Saiharafag

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>>169773267
The gun

>>169773267
Ouma. Even if I wasn't normie scum and thus wouldn't receive shit from Komaeda, I'm not risking his stupid luck. I'd probably catch ambient HIV or something.

>>169773267
Ouma. Komaeda might shank me if he thought it led to hope or his luck might get my side of the closet crushed leaving him free to leave, while the worst Ouma can do is talk my ear off and be annoying, at least he's hilarious.

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>>169772936
I personally like Ryoma and Kirumis but Korekiyo's is pretty good.
Hopefully the person making these will finish the series. I'm really curious to how they'll do Gonta.

>>169771517
>>169772832
This. The reason why I love Ouma as a character so much is that he's a more realistic take on the sheep in wolf's clothing trope. Usually, the character would be a sweet and smart dindu character on the inside, but Ouma, despite his ruse, is still a flawed human being even if he is a lot better of a person than he lets on. He's completely middle ground and that's how he's supposed to be. He can be selfless, but he values his own life over others for the most part, he can be really smart, but he fucks up a lot. People who call him a god or whatever really don't understand his character.

>>169773267
Ouma, obviously.

>overpower him because he's a manlet and this is a small closet with no escape
>use pant straps to restrain legs
>use scarf to bind up his mouth
>tie sleeves together so he can't use his hands
>spend one hour hugging him, pinching his cheeks, calling him pure and teasing him in every way possible to try to get a good reaction
>nap for the other two hours in peaceful silence

>>169773435
>the boss and naked snake
It was only a matter of time before they made this VA joke.

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>>169772519

>>169773475
Yeah, plus you do see that he attempts to make others consider things differently and it falls on deaf ears and he surely can't be perfect if he can't even accomplish that on top because he's rude as fuck.

I mean, what kind of perfect person goes around dressed like an escaped asylum patient and stages fake crimes? There's also little things like his genuine happiness in having his finger bandaged after cutting it open himself that are supposed to clue you in on why he acts the way he does, and that makes him far more interesting than the other characters.

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>>169773730
We need more MGHoshi

>>169773291
You can't deny the truth

>>169773695
That was cuuuuuuute.

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>all this kaede talk from the previous thread
Goddamn it /drg/, why are you doing this to me. Here's your mastermind for tonight.

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>>169773958
I much rather this than Wallpaper being the mastermind

>>169773958
STEPPING STONES FOR DESPAIR PIANOS

>>169763453
>main couple

Lol

>>169773695
> Choosing between being stuck with the Grim Reaper in human form and a cute if very annoying boy who's totally harmless in a situation like this

Why is this even a contest? You can never win against Hopeman, while you can boast that you put Ouma in his place for about 10 seconds before he exacts swift and ruthless retribution on you, and even then you got to hug him for at least three hours.

Even better if he didn't hate being hugged and so you were completely rewarded.

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>>169773958
It would've fill Saihara with despair completely. Good good.
>"Saihara-kun, truth to be told..."
>"YOUR AKAMATSU KAEDE NEVER EXISTED"
>"AHHAHAHAHAHA"
>"Are you despaired yet?"

>>169770246
>this meme again

>>169774447
So the one who was sent to be crushed was her twin sister?

>>169770706
Saiharafag pls

>>169745280
what's inside of the deleted post on the previous thread??

>>169774447
>>169774521
So Dr0's twist but with Dr1's twining twist

>>169774720
I'm guessing nips thought V2 had scrum debates as well.

>>169774720
I wonder if Amami was a better protagonist than Saihara.

>>169774567
can everyone tell me now?

>>169774928
if he checked the bathrooms then definitely.

>>169774951
no.

>>169775013
i was came to see the previous thread and i shocked everyone about the deleted post
i didn't know why it deleted immediately

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>>169774928
He probably betrayed everybody.

>>169775142
If he did then why would he sacrifice himself apparently?

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Posting best girl!

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Post DoodxTulpa, I'm thristy for bromance ship

>>169775142
don't get my hopes up like that anon.

>>169775209
to be fair that was saihara's speculation.

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>>169775221
Protags are asleep, post masterminds.

>>169775127
i think then, i was tulpaman dirty stuff, a dirty shipping or nsfw tsumugi pic

>>169775209
Well for one Saihara assumed he did. We don't know the full details. Like we don't know if V3 was a official killing game by the people who made the last 52 games or if it's unofficial and was taken over by some rogue group Tsumugi was in.

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>>169775221

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>>169775361

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>>169775251
Here you go my brethren.

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>>169775361

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>>169775425
She might not be best girl but I will add her to my folders all the same!

>>169775383
Would explain that person in the audience saying something about it being 3 years since the last game(V2) and how he didn't think another game would happen. Maybe the audience were confused at first at DR supposedly back but that lie became the world's new reality.

>>169775383
Amami directly comments on it being a sham and he definitely was in the 52nd game, so it's fake in some way.

Also, it's possible that TDR might have done the 52nd game and Amami didn't think it could be a sham until the 53rd due to the addition of the Monokumarz or because the 52nd was declared the last. Who knows?

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>>169775251

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Is translator-kun here?

>>169775643
>Amami directly comments on it being a sham and he definitely was in the 52nd game, so it's fake in some way.

Yes and it's likely when he still had his memories intact so yes him saying that only throws more dirt against V3 being illegitimate.

>Also, it's possible that TDR might have done the 52nd game and Amami didn't think it could be a sham until the 53rd due to the addition of the Monokumarz or because the 52nd was declared the last. Who knows?

I think the 53rd game was probably planned to happen since Amami became SHSL Survivor meaning he'd have to appear in the next game but something happened in between which got the official game cancelled until a group decided to imitate it 3 years later.

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>>169775221
Absolute best girl!

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>>169775251
Good boys.

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>>169775830
>handholding

too lewd, delete

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>>169776023
no

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>>169774928
>Interviewer: "Kodaka-san why did you feel the need to make DRV2 into a light novel instead of a visual novel? The class trials felt so short compared to DR1, SDR2 and NDRV3"
>Kodaka: "Because Amami is better at class trials than Naegi, Hinata and Saihara. He's SHSL Class Trial Specialist. It wouldn't be realistic to have it be a visual novel for that purpose so that's why he had to die first in NDRV3 or game would would be very short." (laughs)

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>>169776049
I honestly wonder how Ouma usoed his way into sex with Yumeno here. Did he convince her nonvirgins have bigger mana pools or something? Did she want to see what the cock was like before she fully committed to the /u/?

translatorfriends help what is going on here

>>169775615
> But that lie became the world's new reality.
What's really interesting about this is that when Ouma talks about his 'evil organization' and Saihara says it doesn't exist in his FTE, he immediately questions why Saihara wants it to not exist so much. He also brings up the point that a lie that deceives the entire world is no different than reality and this reality isn't always a good thing, on top of wondering whether even Saihara might be being deceived right now, kind of like he's being lied to.

>>169775873
Indeed, what we can gather from context is that the 53rd game is definitely an imitation of previous killing games.

>>169776186
Fuck you Kohacka.

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>>169775251
I now have "when a man loves a woman" stuck in my head, but with "man" replaced with dood and "woman" replaced with tulpa. So thanks for that.

>>169776186
Lol I'd laugh if this was his explanation granted if it happens.

>>169776346
That would make Ouma's line then ironic since what he says is basically the situation the audience was in. So this "53rd killing game" was the lie that became the reality for the world despite the real Danganronpa being canceled after the 52nd game.

Could also be why it was labeled NEW Danganronpa.

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>>169776338
Probably simple seduction.

His conversations with Yumeno are probably the closest to a healthy relationship for him. He manipulates Gonta's trust and his cooperation with Miu is fragile at best, but he's pretty straight up with Yumeno and his bullying does have a point.

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>>169776186
>mfw this is what he'll say

so that's why that hack kept him from the demo too...

>>169775528
You can pretty much blame Ishimaru for the popularity of mastermind AU and those half black and white with red designs lol.

>>169776685
It's lines like this one that makes me wonder what else is he trying to tell Kaede and Saihara in his FTEs, because at first it looks like Ouma's screwing around with the both of them with his lies about his organization and jokes but given that he's more of a prankster in his FTEs and his description about his own organization paints it as something peaceful, it really makes me wonder how much does he actually know and why does he know all of this.

>Ouma wrote a 300-page book telling Kaito what to do/say during the Class Trial.
>It's actually nothing but dick jokes, trolling, and insulting Harukawa.
>Kaito had to improvise.

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>>169775251

>>169776186
Kek.

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>>169776186
I remember when people were saying he is a lawyer or a diplomat.

>>169775810
Hey, Kiibo. Kiibo, you believe me, right? Right...?

>>169776986
I'm starting to think Ouma had the entire game planned out and predicted from the start. He was manipulating everybody including the mastermind.

>>169777216
>Ms Kaede, your lawyer is dead
>do you plead guilty to the charges against you

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>>169777258
Obviously, because Ouma was really an amnesiac no kill Junko mindhacc'd into a shota.

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>>169775705
>>169775914
>>169776601
>>169777160
Thanks folks, I'll lick my friend's feet to have her translate all these shit for me

Reminder that Ouma and Miu are alive and repairing kiibo in the schools remains.
Also reminder that's Tsumigi had Amami's kid after they both survived v2.
Not really but these theories will probably be better than what we actually get after v3

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>>169777482
>lick my friend's feet
>her
>not doing it for free

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>>169776805
>gets her in a private room after a long period of teasing that slowly turned lewd
>full seduction mode
>rubbing her back and head to turn her on
>puts on love hotel scene voice, whispers in her ear
>"Hey, Yumeno-chan, do you wanna cursed by my magic wand and exchange mana streams?"
>somehow manages to not fucking lose it saying this
>the bloomers are on the floor

>>169777258
You're kidding, aren't you?

Anyway there's definitely something weird about the things he's telling you in his FTEs how the game even goes out of the way to make you not want to do them (The option says '...yes' rather than 'yes').

>>169777340
But he's standing right next to her.

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>>169777651
I-it must be a ghost!

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>>169777482
>this pic
Not even in fujo stuff, but damn.

>>169777216
Because of him liking extraterritorial rights so he'd be well accustomed to laws/rules and being able to bend it to his will. Maybe that's how he went about his class trials.

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>>169777616
男死!

>>169777616
Yamero

>>169777632
No I'm actually very serious on this one. Ouma's existence is definitely different from everyone else's and how he's able to accurately predict how the whole game would play out. He was definitely manipulating everyone.

>>169777598
But both of those theories are retarded and have 0% chance of happening.

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>>169777616
Wew

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>>169777743
>MY EXTRATERRITORIAL RIGHTS WILL NOT ALLOW THIS CLASS TRIAL TO END

>>169777743
Well it would explain his ability to make deals or negotiate with Monokuma in the demo. Maybe he made some deals with Monokuma in the last game.

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>>169777816
I think I know who's behind this post.

>>169777482
Man, this is even cuter than I expected

>>169777598
>Also reminder that's Tsumigi had Amami's kid after they both survived v2.

This likely happened.

>>169777258
>>169777816
If he knew how the game would play out why did he not out the mastermind first chance he got?

>>169778085
I think that was just to show this wasn't his first class trial.

>>169778420
Because this was a game to him before he got bored.

>>169778423
Well yeah that too. It's why Naegi and Hinata seemed to be experts too. Those two and Amami have already been through a whole game of class trials. The others were rookies.

>>169778420
Precisely, he might have some kind of OP ability but he still had to do a lot of investigations and he couldn't do anything against the Exisals directly.

The Exisals honestly seem like a pretty big indicator they aren't normies, since with Kiibo being nerfed that mean Ouma and Miu were completely unable to do anything about the Exisals until all the Monocubs were gone.

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>>169777751
>after some difficulty because she's so small and the spell of dousing took a while to cast, they successfully sex
>their nishishishis and umuus can be heard from the next room over
>UMU... UMU... UMUMUMUMUMU... UMUUUUUUUU~!!
>somehow ouma manages to finish while that's being yelled in his ear because of +1 deception from a successful skill check
>"yumeno-chan, you have defeated the flesh-eating overlord snake of darkness! congratulations, you leveled up!"
>almost on the verge of fucking losing it but she almost cums again from being indulged in pure chuuni fantasy
>puts on clown pantsu and books it out of there before she realizes he used his maxed out sneak skill to succesfully pickpocket her panties
>himiko can't chase after him because she's lost the purity stats buff which affects her strength
>ouma shoots her bloomers at tenko's face like a rubber band over the breakfast table the next morning

and that's how ouma got his dick snapped

>>169778648
>The Exisals honestly seem like a pretty big indicator they aren't normies

It doesn't indicate anything.

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>>169778420
>>169778648

>taking the oumagod shitposting seriously

come on guys, don't make it that easy

>>169778648
>he might have some kind of OP ability

Which was being a clown who became a pancake?

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>>169778853
>implying there aren't real oumagod posters

>>169778607
Irony how they'd have to cut those three loose in the main game before the first class trial or it would have been over in a flash.

>>169778423
Shouldn't he have his memories erased though?

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>>169777602
Well it's cheaper than Japanese online courses anyway

>>169778998
Kirigiri still kept her detective instincts with her despite her memories of her talent being erased so it's likely Amami kept his class trial instincts.

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>>169778917
yeah, they're the ones that replied seriously

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>>169778747
>this entire post
Thanks anon, you made my day.

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this is nice thread

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>>169779214
there was just the right amount of bitchiness this time without falling into retarded character wars again

personally I've enjoyed the artfriends that have been hanging around lately.

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best girl
best villain
best mastermind

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Toujou, be my mom!

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>>169779648
Junko is good.

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https://youtu.be/RdBShb5MUSA
Detective baka's adventures begin.

>>169780102
It's like she's getting annoyed at juicedup.

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>>169779679
Mommy!

dead bread~
in case of revival.
where do you think we're going next in the next game? Do you think they'll expand the drv3 universe?
or will Kodaka do something difference next time.

>>169780506

I think V3 is the MGS5 of DR its the last one from him

>>169780506
UDG2 is up next because of the hint in chapter 1 and probably back in HPA verse given the cover in game.

I think expanding the V3 universe will come in the form of LNs, mangas, etc instead of another game anytime soon. Regardless, I think the next V3 universe game might have a very different format.

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posting new /a/ meme

>>169780606
Didn't realize what this was until I read the filename. Kek

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>>169780606
>both were supposed to be a junko
>both died in joyless despair while getting crushed just like her

clever.

>>169780642
>the V3 universe will come in the form of LNs, mangas, etc instead of another game anytime soon.
I agree with this.

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>>169780660
are we making himiko the waifu now

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>>169780660
Women can't make sperm, you fool! Who's the father?! I'll kick his ass!

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>>169780837

>she doesn't know

>>169780373
delet
>>169780660
>new

>>169780837
>implying Tenko isn't a full-package futa

>>169780748
Nobody cares what you agree with.

>>169780642
>he believed the UDG2 lie

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>>169774116
>>169763593

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>>169781139

>>169779109
Yeah, and Amami keeping his instincts from his previous game completely shatters Shirogane's claim that everyone's personalities were completely erased since they were able to recall being kidnapped although the precise memory felt like it had been cut out.

She says they can't go back to who they were before, but can't that be because they're basically the same person?

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>>169780762
puhuhuhuhuhu

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>>169781092
What a nice picture~

>>169780506
Yeah, I believe he mentioned he's actually planning things ahead with V3-verse somewhere but another game will be a long time coming for sure.

>>169781514
Personality wise maybe but with some differences after they got their "talents"

And the Kaede getting kidnapped thing could be a part of the Remembering Light ruse.

>>169781198
dlet

>>169782029
I don't think so, because Amami still remembers this is the scenario he expected and comments on the game being a sham on top of how everyone else was waiting for them.

Also, talents can make a big deal with regards to memories and personality changes due to how one earned them. For example Hiyoko without her memories of being the Ultimate Traditional Dancer would probably just be a mischievous girl rather than being sadistic due to her horrible upbringing and bullying by her relatives.

>>169782029
But the first mention of the kidnapping happens in the "normie" part of the prologue before even the first Remembering Light, right after Kaede and Shuichi first meet each other. It's where she muses on "how rotten the world really is".

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=61696572
ahahhahaha

Post your retarded personal v3 theories, dumber the better.

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MEMES

>>169782428
Yeah, when you look closely at everything and how Kaede and Saihara were the last to go to the gym we can be certain that if any Remembering Light was used to ruse them into thinking they were kidnapped it'd have to be done on anyone except them, therefore the kidnapping must have been real.

We can also confirm no Remembering Light was used to implant memory of kidnapping because Amami was with everyone else yet he asks Kaede and Saihara if they remember being kidnapped.

>>169782441
Shirogane made everything up on the spot when she was thought to be the mastermind.

>>169781198
Nanami is dead too y'know

>>169782441
The v3 stands for the three virgins that survived

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>>169782439
>mfw

>>169781514
>Yeah, and Amami keeping his instincts from his previous game completely shatters Shirogane's claim that everyone's personalities were completely erased

No, It doesn't. Partly because you're just assuming in the first place.

>>169782317
If Amami thought the game was a sham why did he play along with it by doing the SHSL Survivor video?

>>169782753
Can you explain where am I assuming things and why you cut out the in-game description of Kaede and Saihara trying to remember being kidnapped while describing that part as being cut out?

That part's not headcanon, it's an actual thing said in the game and it does prove that even when the precise details are removed there's a lingering side-effect.

>>169782819
A possible explanation is that he made that video assuming V3 was going to happen and he didn't know until actually being kidnapped and observing all the things that don't match with the killing game he knows that he realized it was a sham.

>>169783092
You're assuming that Amami kept his instincts and treating as a fact for some reason

>>169783092
>A possible explanation is that he made that video assuming V3 was going to happen

No, the video was made after he received his SHSL clothes and in his talent room.

>>169783178
Then can you explain where did he get his ability to reason out the nature of the killing game being of distrust and all the other things he said, if he doesn't remember a single thing about ever being in one?

>>169783241
Well, you got me. That one really stumps me because even if talent rooms existed in V2 Amami's one would have to be something different as he wasn't SHSL Survivor then.

>>169783460
>Then can you explain where did he get his ability to reason out the nature of the killing game being of distrust and all the other things he said, if he doesn't remember a single thing about ever being in one?
Simple logic.

>>169783241
You're assuming that couldn't have been built sometime after V2 when they thought V3 would happen.