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Oruzed Edition

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No

>Can I play the full game without paying for it?
Yes, Eve is F2P with some restrictions and you can earn enough money ingame to get a subscription.

>I want to play EVE, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using any referral link (chaining them with friends works best).
If you have no friends create two accounts and refer yourself, you'll need an alt anyway.
Or use this link:
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=4eca5d19-7c52-44fd-9de6-ff7b1398159c&action=buddy
If you upgrade to Omega send the referal a mail with the date when you upgraded and I will give you the entire PLEX.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy

Future:
>The Guardian's Gala 14-28 Feb
>Citadel Insurance! (Feb)

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

Previous >>169240928

Permalink: http://orph.link/eog
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1st for amarr
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>Account is less than an hour old.
>Already afk mining.
BTFO CODE!!
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>snuff
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>nyx umbral skin
I just don't think they give a fuck anymore.
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>>169566975
>picks a monochromatic skin
>is surprised there's only one color
durr
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Did anyone else notice that the guardian's gala vexor and ishtar skins have a night rider reference on the front, that red bar that moves left and right? None of the other skins seem to have it.
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>>169568456
I think industrials like Iteron have it too
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>>169568906
Yeah, and just after I said it I noticed the celestis has it. But pardon me for not looking at the celestis that much.
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Round, square, oval spaceships
Rich, poor, slave spaceships
Smart, dumb, crazy spaceships

Prude, horny, dirty spaceships
Fat, tall, skinny spaceships
Bi, straight, gay spaceships
Cool, nerdy, stuck up spaceships
Ghetto, yuppy, valley spaceships
High, low, middle spaceships
Single, married, widowed spaceships
Big, little, thin spaceships
Young, old, midget spaceships
Club, bar, DJ spaceships
Singing, acting, real spaceships
Yeah

I love all spaceships!
Round, square, oval spaceships
Rich, poor, slave spaceships
Smart, dumb, crazy spaceships
Prude, horny, dirty spaceships
Fat, tall, skinny spaceships
Bi, straight, gay spaceships
Cool, nerdy, stuck up spaceships
Ghetto, yuppy, valley spaceships
High, low, middle spaceships
Single, married, widowed spaceships
Big, little, thin spaceships
Young, old, midget spaceships
Club, bar, DJ spaceships
Singing, acting, real spaceships

Yeah

I love all spaceships!
Yeah
Round, square, oval spaceships
Rich, poor, slave spaceships

Smart, dumb, crazy spaceships
I love all spaceships!

Yeah

I love all spaceships!
Yeah
Round, square, oval spaceships
Rich, poor, slave spaceships
Smart, dumb, crazy spaceships
Prude, horny, dirty spaceships
Fat, tall, skinny spaceships
Bi, straight, gay spaceships
Cool, nerdy, stuck up spaceships
Ghetto, yuppy, valley spaceships
High, low, middle spaceships
Single, married, widowed spaceships
Big, little, thin spaceships
Young, old, midget spaceships
Club, bar, DJ spaceships
Singing, acting, real spaceships
Yeah
I love all spaceships!
Yeah
Yeah, I love all spaceships! (spaceships, spaceships, spaceships...)
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>the best looking battlecruiser in the game only has a T1 version
CCPls
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>>169567234
>Hey, let's give the nyx a new skin
>ok, we'll take the valimor legacy
>and rename it to umbral
It's fucking brilliant
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>>169569584
Yes, too bad about the Oracle.
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Join Dronelands today! Quiet ratting space. Comrade xXDEATHXx needs your rent payment.
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>Snuff re-enforces stuff in home system, shitposting local etc.
>We can't do anything until X logs in, I can't FC because only X can engage snuff
>Just wait until tomorrows timer
>250 NC form to save us
>Snuff stands down
>Don't worry we can ask NC to bail us out anytime

Fuck this im out.
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>>169570596
We did. We are dropping on you with blops.
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it happened again?
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>>169570596

Were the cap losses yesterday that bad?
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Join ASCEE - the premium shitter corp in Goonswarm that isn't infested with reddit like Karmafleet.

Want to get into the null life and have access to alliance services without feeling any attachment to corp?

Only 3 stratops per 3 months required.

Join today!
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>>169570683
Snuff is like retarded kid. They only fight if they are outnumbering enemy twice.
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>>169571116

>they only fight if they are outnumbering enemy twice.

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4046&b=7444020&e=335&t=quaeag

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45337&b=7428265&e=90&t=KMVc

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=2428,186&b=7386895,7387015&e=15,157&t=ubvv

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=3729&b=7434420&e=107&t=Jzuvfbaaevaarbeafaaaaqaqfaaeaaaaaaae

Really makes me wonder how morons like you think you can get away with lying.
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>>169571478
I don't really have time for your bullshit so I just picked first one.
Obviously snuff being pets of PM. xD
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>I can't find a counter to your proofs
>xD
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>>169571109
>Only 3 stratops per 3 months required.
Lie.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Ascendance

>No activity requirements (Play the game the way you want to)
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>>169572079
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>messaged guy in a corp i just joined
>logged off
>didn't log in since because don't want to confront him.
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Is it worth selling characters now or is extracting to 5m better?
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>Hi-sec players
>Hide in station until wardec ends, the moons worthless anyway

>Nullsec players
>stratop to defend a worthless moon.. if you want.. i mean we can just blob them into submission with supers so who cares.. go back to fighting over anoms

>Lowsec players
>Hey a worthless moon we own is under attack, lets lose billions times its yearly income for the content.. they stood down? back to gatecamping.

>WH players
>Fight for the moon or lose everything you fags *autistic screeching*

Really makes you think.
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>>169572831
Not really
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>>169572831
Implying WH combat is anything other than a gank or a total eviction
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>>169573209
FIGHT FOR THE MOON

IN THE NAME OF THE MOON
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>>169563298
>Future:
>The Guardian's Gala 14-28 Feb
>Citadel Insurance! (Feb)
faggot how hard is it to fix the fucking op
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>>169573209
I've experienced plenty of fights for the sake of fighting, and I've only been living in wormholes for like 3 months. Maybe it's different in high class wormholes though, I'm just in a C4 with C4/C2 statics. We've even shipped down, had opponents ship down or even done honourable 1v1s just so that both corps get a gud fite.
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>>169573336
Its still feb you moron
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>HS
>WH
>moons
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>>169573526
I'm sorry about your mental illness, anon. You really should stop posting here and kill yourself.
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>>169573587
I'm sorry you don't have the mental capacity to check a calendar.

Oh wait, no I'm not, you're fucking hilarious.
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>>169569584
>muh t2

kys grindfags
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>>169574175
>he likes to be weak and powerless
kys cuck
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>>169569584
>Best looking BS has no t2 version, no faction version and has been reduced to smartbombing as it's only "viable" use
C-can't stop the Rokh ;_;
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>>169574305
>he can't succeed without flying a proteus or orthrus
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>>169574175
what has t2 to do with grind
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>>169574536
>muh expensive
>muh special collection of ships I never use
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>>169574584
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>>169574584
How does it feel to have 20 iq
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How the fuck do they do it? How does Oruze keep finding shitters to dunk into pieces? How do I apply?
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>>169572769
Most of the time it's better off extracting, and that's probably especially the case with how expensive injectors currently are.

There are some cases where you're still likely to make more ISK by selling the character. A couple of examples being:

The character is crazily high SP, so would be stupidly expensive to inject.
Specialised cap / jump freighter characters.

You can sometimes strip out unfocused SP and then sell the resulting focused character to get more isk overall. If you're feeling lazy, just extract everything and sell the injectors. For best results calculate how much ISK you'd get from injectors, factoring in cost of extractors, and compare to how much similar characters are going for on the bazaar.
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>>169574825
by being HK pets
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>>169574629
you tell me t2fag
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>>169574910
I want to be a pet

Why won't anyone pet me
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>>169574950
wow
such comeback
very sick
much burn
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>bringing solo back
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>>169574964
I'll pet you anon :3c
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shouldnt the rattlesnake have the raven hull instead of scorpion?
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>>169576678
the scorpion looks more rattlesnakey
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>>169576678
no, I don't want fotm shitters flying qt raven hulls
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>>169576678
It should have the Rokh hull.
>Worm is based on the Merlin, a hybrid frigate
>Gila is based on the Moa, a hybrid cruiser
>Rattle is based on the Scorp, an ECM battleship, for some reason
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>>169577064
>are you complaining that they haven't made like 50 new unique models for pirate faggot ships?
not him
i wish
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>want to go into nulls
>can't
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>>169577419
How are you typing without arms?
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>>169577553
I don't know how my arms can help me here.
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>>169577419
Go into wormhole, then pop your head out through null holes till you find a nice quiet piece of space. Or just run an interceptor.
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>>169577725
But i need a specific null space...Feels like just a waste of time trying to probe it down. And you're saying people don't camp on wh entrances? Im always afraid that just same decloack@bubble happens.
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>>169577812
Stop being such a carebear anon. You'll lose your ship anyways when you undock it so just go have fun. Heck I even make more ISK in lowsec doing PVE sites with half the fun people probing me down.
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>>169577136
I counted and they only need like 6 new hulls to have all unique pirate ships, so it's not that unreasonable desu
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>>169577812
Camping in bubbles is useless unless they KNOW you are going to go through that gate and if you're in a ceptor you're immune anyway and have a 2 second align time. The people who can catch that that are set up for it are countable on 1 hand and there's 3000+ systems and 2000+ wormhole systems. Generally if you get a good run you'll instantly pay off anything but a bling fit T3 or Stratios so on the very rare occasion you get blapped you're still ahead.
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>socket closed
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>Horde
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>goons
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>>169578902
Well, i got camped 2 times with uncloak-bubble on gate-lol on 2 diffirent days with map statistic being clear as fuck (unless they had scouts that saw me ahead of the time and then they waited all the time i was afk)...kinda discouraged me from trying again. I just don't see any way to avoid this kind of gank besides using ceptor\having ship so fast it can burn back to gate (aka ceptor).

Yea training ceptor and paying haulers is the only choice i see right now, but kinda sad to no do anything for 9days or whatever (actually i just noticed...tengu's sub does the same thing but doesn't require lvl5 evasive?)
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>>169579836
Sorry I meant camping the holes. With gatecamps like that either it was a pipe system which you want to avoid or they had intel, if there is ANYONE but you in system assume they're on the local intel channel and will eityher be telling everyone to hide or to ship up and come kill your ass. The only way out of those is quick interceptor or going in a heavy fit T3 and killing their tackel. They should have shown up on the pilots or jumps in last hour though.
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What's the best option for me? Should I get a subscription (I can get any subscription, even the yearly one), or should I earn enough for PLEX in game? I have other arbitrary, non-essential shit I'd like to buy with the money, but I'd be willing to give that up for EVE.
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>>169580249
You'll *probably* enjoy the game more if you go omega. You don't need to get an entire year at once at all though, maybe try 3 months for a start or something.
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>>169580249
I'd subscribe first and then at some point when you're easily able to afford to PLEX do it. It's no fun if you spend your entire month in EVE grinding for a PLEX and then have no money left over to actually spend on fancy new spaceships.
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>>169568456
The dominix and sin skins also have it.
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oneiros
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>Kind of want to join a new corp that does similar stuff to my current one but seems better (more members, activity, money making etc)
>Only joined my current corp a few months ago and the guys in it are really cool so I'd feel bad about leaving already. The corp seems to be ramping up for some big ops soon too
What would you guys do?
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>download game again since it's F2P now
>log into old account
>don't really know what to do with a mammoth and a mining frigate being my only ships
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Is Jita relatively safer than during this weekend? Have the goons retreated or will that happen today/tomorrow?
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>>169587132
That's what you get for culturally enriching your account with a matari pilot.
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>>169587482
>Amarr are hippies
>Gallente has ugliest ships
>Caldari has worst character models
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>>169588531
>Amarr
>Hippies
I haven't got the Will Smith picture saved but pretend I posted it.
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>>169588531
>log in on alt
>some black ass nigger matarian
>can't fly matar ships
>wtf??
>he was Caldari all along
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>log in alt
stopped reading there
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Ok, whats the fastest ship a gallente alpha could possibly fly?
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/formal-identification-of-remains-found-in-kyonoke-pit-implicates-kaalakiota-and-home-guard/
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/breaking-news-kasaras-family-missing-home-guard-launches-manhunt-for-father-and-sister/
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>>169588531
>the galactic empire is hippies lmao
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how do i deal with orthruses
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Did I do good :^)
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>>169593042
>le funney rebbit meem xD
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>>169593042
Make a Harold.
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Oruze Cruise is ignoring me :(
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>>169586924
Please help me guys, I don't know what to do.
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>>169586924
i'd join horde
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>>169593864

May may corporation
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>>169594105
Horde's way too big, and anyway I'm looking at a specific corp. I don't want to name them so that it's more of a general question for a less biased opinion.
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>>169593268
>implying 4chan isn't reddit 2.0
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>>169595276
t. test
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>>169574825
What message is this picture supposed to convey?
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>Amarr
>lasers
>omen
>zealot
>cap
>infinite ammo
>gleam
mfw amarr fags on suicide watch
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>>169595276
That would need to be the other way around, since 4chan is older
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>>169595465
>free damage
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I randomly joined a corp recently (I am new and looking for help/friends) called Mission Ready Mining, part of an alliance called Fly Fearless. Anyone heard of these guys before?
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>>169595907
>he didn't mine his free damage for free
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>>169595978
literally nobodies, like 99% of mining corps.
My suggestion?
Leave and never join a mining corp ever again, or any corp based in HS.
Go straight to wormholes if you are a quick learner that wants to learn hard, or be a nullsec baby so you can learn stuff at a easy pace.
LS is fine too for newfags but its harder to find a good active corp, its better to be a lone wolf in there and just join a FW npc corp until you get good with frigs.
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>>169596225
>HS
>LS
>FW
What? I finished all the career missions at my home station yesterday and started Sisters of Eve missions today. I was told that I can get some decent loot from doing it all for a beginner like myself.
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>>169596364
>decent loot
not really, but it might teach you more stuff, finish it.

Once you're done you might know what HS, LS and FW mean.
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Join my "Good Boy Miner Co' and son", low tax rate of 20%, active company to mine, mining minerals you can mine for free! And then sell with nothing to fear. Be a good boy and join now!
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>>169596464
I'm guessing HS/LS is high sec and low sec but I really don't know the difference between the two. I'm doing these missions cause I think Sister's of Eve is a good reputation to have from what I've heard but in terms of game play I think I have a somewhat warm and fuzzy so far but I don't have the money, ships, or character skills yet to really adventure far out without some serious consequences.

Like there was me just trying to kill regular dumb pirate ships and I put myself in the optimal range of my weapon but shit kept missing and I was so fucking confused as to why.
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>In Goons
>Cloakly camping TEST systems with Stratios/Astero
>Killing AFK VNIs
>Endless shitposting in local from the residents

I never knew the amount of autistic screeching one could do by simply be cloaky and AFK in a system.
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>>169596793
>I'm guessing HS/LS is high sec and low sec but I really don't know the difference between the two.

HS has concord LS doesn't
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>>169596793
Highsec has CONCORD at the gates and at stations, attacking someone without a kill right or suspect timers will pull CONCORD and you will die, the higher the system the faster they respond.
If you want to kill someone you need to suicide gank them, i.e. your ship will never survive the gank.
There is NPC stations all over HS.

In Lowsec there is no CONCORD, only gate and station guns, they shoot fairly hard and cannot be speed tanked, but a group of gankers can avoid dying to them and often camp gates, if you are not near a station or gate nobody will help you.
There is NPC stations all over lowsec.

Nullsec has absolutely no security like gate guns or CONCORD, there is NPC null and SOV null where corps can own territory to rat, mine and build shit.

All have missions except for wormholes and sov null.
and "reputation" only matter if you actively use them for running missions with them and gain LP, you don't gain any free items just by being cool with NPCs.

Wormhole behaves like nullsec but without local chat to know who is currently in a system, and no gates, the only way to move around wormholes is to scan the wormholes.
There are 6 times of wormhole classes.
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>>169596793
>Like there was me just trying to kill regular dumb pirate ships and I put myself in the optimal range of my weapon but shit kept missing and I was so fucking confused as to why.

There's a mechanic called tracking, it decides how well your ships hit. For best tracking, you want to sit still while shooting and shoot at a still target. Other scenarios generally mess it up, so you want to minimize transversal velocity. Just imagine it like this - your turret rotates as you shoot to follow your target. The less it has to rotate, the better off you are.

Some guns have naturally shit tracking.

Big guns have trouble hitting small ships.

Post your ship's fit (you can export it) and we'll help you improve it.
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>>169597450
>Post your ship's fit (you can export it) and we'll help you improve it.
How do I export it?
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>>169597948
open fitting, click on the wrench icon, somewhere bottom left there will be an import/export button of some sort, click on paste fit to clipboard or on save fitting and take a screenshot of the fit window that opens if 4chin gives you a spam message error
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>>169597216

What are some good TEST systems to go in to piss them off? I'm joining goons today
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>>169598760
>joining goons
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>>169598941

Oh shit yeah I should have joined one of /eog/'s elite pvp groups and post dog memes in local chat for 18 hours a day
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>>169598941
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>>169599282
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>>169598941
>reddit damage control
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>>169598760
Join Hornet Squad if you want to do the Ratter/harassment ganking.

E1uu- and the entire 3wn-1t pocket is rife with redditors that love to rat with you in system
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Just came back to the game after years. Serious question; why do you still play this game? EVE has gone to the carebears and numales on reddit.

>Watchlist is gone
Wtf who got permission to do this??
>When you destroy a citadel, you don't get the stuff inside.
It all teleports or something. Gay!
>Jump fatigue
What even is this? Why didn't they make something similar to warp bubbles, except for cynos, that are light years wide and intercept cyno paths?
>Epic xDeddit Nu Player Alliances
These are effectively killing any new corporations and lower level conflicts
>Force Auxiliary Ships
They all look like shit. Also, why did they get rid of the carrier triage thing? THat was one of the most innovative and interesting things that the players came up with and now its gone forever for no reason.
>Command bursts
How did they fuck this up? First of all, the graphics look like really gay Harry Potter spells. Second, it's basically the same thing, except now it's even more of a blob fest, because you can only have links if you have a blob. Why isn't it a targeted thing, where the command ship targets a specific ship it wants to bonus?
>Le epic tether to citadel
Was there really an issue of carebears not being able to camp by their station enough?
>Le epic Black OPs PVP
Why do these people think they're good? The hunter is the only one who's actually pvping, the Black Ops pilots are worse than f1 monkeys.
>Incursions are still risk free
Nothing to say here, incursion runners are the worst demographic in the game.
>Can't fight in the atmosphere of procedurally generated planets
Is CCP intentionally donating money to their competitors?
>Can't destroy people's PI
Why isn't sov revolving around PI and controlling every planet in the solar system?
>Entosis Links
What the fuck is an entosis link? It sounds like a dildo. Since when has sov been a capture the flag minigame?
>Evading wardecs still isn't a bannable offence
xD


So, /dog/? Why haven't you uninstalled?
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>>169601929
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>>169601929
>>Evading wardecs still isn't a bannable offence
>he's a highsec wardeccer
Opinions dismissed
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>>169601714

I will say its not a very newbee friendly way of solo fighting however. You have to be very independent with cloakly ships like asteros/stratios. I mean I pack the space equivalent of survival kit (Moblie depot, extra drones, boosters, nanite paste probes everything).

All that and basically live behind enemy lines.

Use your best judgement for fits, and don't be afraid to engage enemies.
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>>169601929
Oh yeah! Forgot to add:

>WARP DRIVE ACTIVE
why change this?
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>>169601929
what else is there to play?
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>>169599282
I'm in a goon affiliated corp but to be fair the guy who runs Pupper appreciation/Cuckhold cleanup crew despite being a newbie is a really self started person. Which is saying a lot considering the morons who play this game have no Independence whatsoever.

I don't mind the stereotypical F1 fleets but I also value being independent and fighting on your own. Which is why starting exploration/covert ops both to do Relic/data sties and pvp is something newbees should first try. I feel good because I made my first successful combat probe mark and caught/killed the hostile.
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>>169572508
Still afraid to log in.
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>>169602502
They introduced a new, voice-acted tutorial and couldn't get the old voice of Aura to do it, so they got a new voice-actress to do the tutorial and re-do all of the existing aura lines.
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>>169603508
give me your account details and i'll check it for you
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>>169603508
its over buddy ;^)
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>>169603508
Use EVE Gate then.

https://gate.eveonline.com/
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>>169598129
Thanks. This is basically what I have
[Merlin, Ete Eto's Merlin]
Small Armor Repairer I

1MN Afterburner I
Small Shield Booster I
Civilian Kinetic Deflection Field
Stasis Webifier I

125mm 'Scout' Accelerator Cannon
75mm Gatling Rail I
Civilian Light Missile Launcher
Antimatter Charge S x1131
Civilian Scourge Light Missile x38
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>>169601929
pls uninstall /eog/
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>>169606254
how do I install /eog/
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>>169605993
First, you generally never want to use Civilian modules. They're basically just for the tutorial. Try replacing the civilian kinetic module with an adaptive invulnerability field. This will drain your capacitor a bit but will provide you with a bonus to all of your resists, not just Kinetic. Second, you generally want to pick one type of tanking, shield or armor, and stick with it. For Caldari ships this will almost always be shields, and especially with the Merlin, since it has a bonus to shield resists. I'd remove the small armor repairer and replace it with a Damage Control module. Third, the reason you're having trouble with tracking is because railguns are a long-range, low-tracking weapon type. You were probably in short range with what you were failing to hit, giving you high traversal. Try either manually piloting or using the "Keep at Range" command to keep your distance from what you're shooting, allowing you to hit better. Alternatively you could replace your railguns with blasters (the short-range, high-tracking variant of hybrid turrets) if you want to stay in close range while fighting. You'll also want to replace that missile launcher with another hybrid turret. The Merlin has bonuses to hybrid turrets, not missiles. Take advantage of it.
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>>169606501
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>>169606772
Thanks for the feedback. I did find that the keep at range function to work best so far. I do have a couple blasters in my inventory.

What seems to be a good way of making money? I enjoy the combat aspect of it and I feel like mining wont be profitable til I get high end skills trained up. Should I try to do the hacking and relic shit? I hear that has been good for finding loot and earning money. Would I have to equip probes and shit to find those types of places to hack and if I do how do I go about finding them best?
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>>169601929
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>>169607335

Mining is the opposite of a good way to make money. Stick to exploring and ratting. Once you can fly a Drake or Myrmidon you can start running C3 wormholes solo and that will give you more reliable isk than just exploring. A single site is worth 44 million.
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I made an account with a referral link, what should I invest my 250k SP in?
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>>169607775
Eastern Poland
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>>169607715
>ratting
Is this similar to rat fucking an MRE? Where should I go and explore. I feel like I need probes to venture around and explore different systems properly.
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>>169607775
Drones V
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>>169607775
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Support_Skills

>>169607992
Rat is short for Pirate, the NPC enemies you'll fight at combat sites. "Ratting" simply refers to taking a combat ship and killing NPC pirates for bounties and loot. Exploration refers to taking a probing ship, (as a Caldari newbie that'll be the Heron frigate) equipping it with a probe launcher and probes, and scanning down signatures that show up in your probe window. You'll be looking for relic and data sites, which you can hack the containers at for loot. Be aware, however, that exploration is very unprofitable in high security space so you'll want to go to null security space or into wormholes, which will require you to know more about the game to survive. If you plan to take up exploration I'd suggest going and reading a few guides before trying it out, making sure to learn about identifying wormholes, the Directional Scanner, warp-disrupter bubbles and how to avoid gate camps involving them, and identifying different types of sites.
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>>169607775
Hull upgrades V
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>>169607775
large beam laser specialisation 5
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>>169608647
So, go rat for awhile in my case for now while reading guides in my off time. Got it. I'm going to finish the career missions I have up for SOE for now then go rat. Any places I should specifically go to first or will it all be the same. I assume lower security systems means higher profit off pirates.
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what ship do you guys main?
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>>169609994
orthrus
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>>169609659
The lower the security rating of the system you're in the stronger the rats will be and the better the bounties and loot will be. Since you're just starting out and using a frigate you'll probably have trouble with combat sites in lower parts of high security space like 0.5-0.7, so try starting out in a 0.8-1.0 and working your way down until you can't hack it. Alternatively you could do security missions.
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>>169609994
venture
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>>169609994
Capsule
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>>169609659

I've found pirate faction null space to be profitable for exploring. There aren't null blobs and it's fairly dead. Plus you will have local so you can see if someone is in system. I would say it's a safe way to get comfortable with exploring at a lower risk than wormholes.

Also you're going to get ganked and die at some point, but you shouldn't be dissuaded. A single site can pay for an exploration vessel many times over.
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>>169609994
tornado
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>>169609994
Hulk
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>>169609994
Wreathe
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>>169609994
hecate
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>>169607885
>>169610375
Underrated
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>>169574402
literally the best battleship but it gets no love
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>>169602082
>>169602347
>>169606254
>>169607454
not surprised that there aren't any counterarguments.. looks like i win.

anyways.. reddit numales detected.
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>spout dumb inane shit
>hue gib arguments or i win xD
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>>169612521
/eog/ in a nutshell
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>>169601852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkZi1jmCTDg
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>>169613079
>5 karma deposited in your account
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>>169603730
all I fucking want is a toggle to switch it to the old voice
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>>169612325
stop shitposting
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>>169612325
>no counterarguments
>not posting any arguments in first place
>I win
k
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>>169610305
I am in Arnon (I think it's .6) and the pirates there have only got me to 3/4 shield without me really trying. Should I be safe to go to as low as .3?
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>join new corp
>they have a dickscord
>join
>qt grill in voice chat
>try flirting with her a little
>she laughs and thinks it's funny
>her boyfriend joins in and laughs at me

I can never play this game again
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>discord
Drop corp immediately
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>>169613749
I don't recommend going to Adirain.
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>>169613770
literally kys retard
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>>169613770

absolutely deserved you sperg orbiter
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>>169613770
>discord
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>>169613749
You may not want to go to low sec (0.1 to 0.4 security rating) as people will be able to attack you without repercussions at the sites.
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>>169609994
Confessor
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>>169609994
HFI
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>Confessor
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How do you find comfy small-mid size pirate corps now? I went between a few years ago and always had a good time, but they seem non existent now. You're either a FW blob or a Null blob or a WH blob
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>>169613770
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>>169614823
you dont
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>>169614823
Live in WH, have income source in k-space. Roll holes for content.
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>>169615056

Right so if that's the closest thing to it, how do I find a WH group that doesn't have weapons grade aspergers?
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>>169613889
>>169614178
I'll keep this all in mind. Any good systems I should look into for ratting?
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Would it be safe for me to go to Jita with a corvette hauling 20m3, but worth 20mil? I don't want to lose my loot but I can sell the objectively 20mil loot for 3mil higher in Jita. Now that the goons have left, is it safe?
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>>169615381
>corvette

get in a t1 frigate, they cost like 100k and warp and align significantly faster
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i just want to do SOE missions but I don't want to be ganked.
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>>169615229
I don't think ratting will give you decent money. Look for some newbie corp(Factional Warfare is nice place for newbies). Also there Solar.Eclipse. corp thats a newbie corporation. And they are living like 2j away from you IIRC
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>>169615229
All that really matters for combat sites is the security rating of the system it's in and which faction space it's in as the pirate NPCs in different faction spaces deal different types of damage, have different resists, and use different e-war modules.

Caldari rats = ECM (chance to make you unable to target anything)
Gallente rats = sensor damps (your targetting range and targetting speed goes down)
Amarr rats = tracking disrupters (your tracking gets worse)
Minmattar rats = target painters (your signature radius goes up, making you easier to hit)
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That's just pennies, dont worry.
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>>169615381
[Executioner, travel]

Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Use this if you want to move low volume stuff around safely in high sec, as long as you use instant dock and instant undock bookmarks you will be pretty safe.
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>>169615880
>(your tracking gets worse)

it also reduces your range, which actually matters
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>>169615971
>>169615381
>>
>playing Numale Online
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>>169615739
Are you cute? Cuties don't get ganked.
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>>169616032
I'm still an Alpha and I'm Caldari. Thanks for the fit though. Also, my first time in Jita, I don't have any bookmarks set up.

>>169616130
Maybe for you.
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>>169616602
20 million is 15 minutes for an alpha explorer or ratter, not by SP or expensive ship investment but simply by reading a guide and picking up the money
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>>169616194

WoW is more like single mothers online now, EVE is a mix of /pol/, classic nerds and a whole lot of reddit
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>>169616602
>I don't have any bookmarks set up.
Then make them in a speedy frigate.

You do know how, don't you?
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>>169616602
You can do the same thing with a Caldari frigate. If you're concerned about getting ganked on your way there go there in an empty ship, make the bookmarks, then come back with the loot.
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>>169616764
I've literally started low-sec exploration today. This was an hour and a half of work for me because of people constantly scanning me down.

>>169616805
Yeah, I do.
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>>169616602
[Merlin, travel]

Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Use this instead then. It probably won't work for you straight away, but here's how you fix it. If you're going over on powergrid replace the medium shield extenders with smalls until that is no longer a problem. If your align time is above 2 seconds, replace the small core defense field extenders with small low friction nozzle joints until it's under 2. Being able to align in under 2 seconds means that after taking a gate you can break your gate cloak and enter warp faster than anyone will be able to lock you.
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>>169616987
>I've literally started low-sec exploration today.
Well stop and go to null-sec. The only thing extra you need to do to be exactly as safe in nullsec is to press f10, set the filter to kills in last hour or 24 hours, and avoid the places with a shitton of kills.

You are literally just wasting time.
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>>169617146
Oh and you will probably need to train spaceship command and evasive maneuvering to hit the align time target. You should train those skills anyway.
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>>169616987
lowsec is an ok place to find wormholes, much better than looking in highsec. the sites in the wormhole systems will be much better than lowsec sites, and you'll find wormholes to other wh systems, or nullsec
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>>169617478
I tried wormholes, but I couldn't find any sites that are not sleeper/rat sites. I'm not exactly fitted for PvE.
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>>169617478
>>169616987
Don't listen to this guy. Doing low SP exploring in WHs is also a waste of time, because you'll be finding about 3 times as many signatures that have nothing to do with what you want to find. The real money is in nullsec relic sites, and then only in distant regions that aren't sansha or drone space, you should avoid those.
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>>169617631
Only C1-3 wormholes have unguarded pirate relic/data sites.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormholes
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>start conversation with an agent in a far away station while undocking
>"That item is no longer within your reach"
What did CCP mean by this?
>>
Anyone here have a working TriExporter?
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>>169617703
pretty ridiculous to say nobody should hack unless they live in stain or period basis or wherever
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>>169622678
Well good thing I didn't say that.

Also those regions are the worst fucking choices get a fucking grip.
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>25000mm plate
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wtf do I do? havent logged in in two weeks and the game is just dead for me.

boring ass shit.
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>>169623775
Extract all your SP and give it to me.
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r8
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>join corp
>get everything setup
>join mumble
>there's a tranny talking

Looks like I may have made a mistake boys
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>>169624180
People burn out with EVE sometimes, especially if they're playing it a lot. Try something different or take a break. There's loads of areas of space you've probably not had a go with yet, and a change can be great. If that doesn't work, give me your stuff.

Elise gave a talk at fanfest about this sort of stuff although I haven't bothered watching it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF9-vauvEGs
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>mumble
>>
The fucking launcher wont launch the fucking game. I've restarted my computer a dozen times already, shit wont launch!
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>>169623775
Play something else for a change. Or change the environment. Go live somewhere else
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>>169625851
>>169628547
This is good advice. I was completely burnt out too, my friends had stopped playing and other corps I joined just didn't feel the same. I packed up my bags and headed to wormhole space and am having the best time I've ever had in EVE.
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So I left an MTU at a mission and turned the mission in. Is it possible to go back and scan it down?
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>>169629614
Its possible with combat probes.
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>>169630090
okay. how hard do you think this is going to be for someone with zero experience scanning?
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>>169630419
Well it's not like it's moving or anything. It might take a while if there are lots of other sigs but it won't be hard.
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>>169625690
how the fuck do you know its a tranny?
>>
>amarr
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>>169631816
because it's corp only for family members
>>
>able to warp faster than the speed of light and travel across a solar system in 30 seconds
>can't start a conversation with an agent unless docked in same station
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>>169633206
mission is so secret they have to talki with you face2face
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>>169613770

Lol u fag
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>>169615186

wholers are less autistic than the rest of eve
>>
apocalypse
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>>169623775

get good
>>
The only way to have fun in this game is to join a large group where content is bountiful 24/7.

prove me wrong

Hint: You can't
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>>169633742
the nightmare is superior in every way
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>>169634827
Why would anyone want to be in a small corp? The goal of every corp should be to gain numbers and join an alliance.
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>>169634827
As long as it's not too large, I want to matter at least somewhat rather than just be fleet DPS #1312
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>>169635070
It really is.
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>>169635515
The fuck is this weeb shit?
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>>169635648
This is drawing. People sometimes enjoy drawing things anon.
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>>169635803
Yeah well they're faggots.
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>>169635070
>shield tanking
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>>169635286
spoken like a true faggot
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>>169635859
>someone likes what I dont like
durr
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>>169636008
What's wrong with shield tanking?
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>>169636008
>armor tanking
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>>169636865
nothing
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>>169636239
>someone likes ruining almost anything with "cute" animu girls

Nah he's right, you're a faggot.
>>
>tanking
>>
>>169640034
nah I'm right, you're faggots
>>
Chinaman draws like a Chinaman
News at 11
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>>169640034
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>>169640558
b-b-but Proteus-chan is very popular!
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>>169640558
Fucking kill yourself
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>>169641349
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red pill me on target painters
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>>169641735
Damping and ECM is better.
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>>169641735
garbage unless you know what you're doing, and you don't seen to know this so avoid them,
>>
What's the purpose of the assault frigates?
>>
LISTEN UP FAGOTS I WAS TOLD THAT THIS IS ORUZE CRUZ OFFICIAL FORUM AND I AM HERE ON BEHALD OF BIOMASS PARTY TO TELL YOU ALL YOUR FUCKING TRASH FOR EVICITING US AND THAT REVENTGE WILL BE SWIFT ON YALL ASSES YOU DONE FUCKED UP NOW AND I AM LITERALLY ON SKYPE CALL WITH HARD KNOCKS AND VOLTA TO LITERALLY HAZE YOU'RE ASSES OUT OF WH SPACE FOREVER AND MAKE YOU QUIT THIS GAME FOREVER I WILL FUCK U IN THE ASS
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>>169636865
>that guy without three prop mods and full tackle
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>>169643289
>not a new IP
step it up
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>>169643289
John Dune for CSM of HighSec
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>anime
>>
>CSM
>>
>>169643289
>ORUZE CRUZ
who?
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Aww shit negroes, just lost my job irl. Lots of spare time now; what corp should I join?
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>>169643289
>Not a single period, but he uses "you're" improperly.
kek
>>
If i leave my corp during war am i still a valid target after leaving? or do i need to wait before im safe again?
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>>169646007
You will not be a target anymore. However, you will not be able to rejoin that corp for one week.
>>
How do I biomass myself irl?
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>>169646365
run into the sun
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>>169643059
Literally nothing
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>>169646365
Find something you love, and indulge to excess
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>>169646365

Go swimming with cement shoes. I think that's the quickest way to rejoin the biosphere.
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>>169646735

EVE will kill me?
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>>169646237
Alright thanks
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>>169646365
Jump into a woodchipper.
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>>169646821

http://time.com/3673534/taiwan-video-game-death/
>>
Anyone know of any Goonswarm mining/industry corporation that is recruiting?
>>
guys sorry to ask for this but I am going to have sex for the first time tomorrow and I have no one to ask questions pertaining coitus.

how many condoms to I put on to be safe?
>>
>>169647221

Just look at the Alliance in game and show info on all the right sounding corps
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>>169647278
you should only need 1 but sometimes 2 can be smart ;) Good luck and have fun :)
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>>169647278

If you must use a condom, use one of the ultra thin ones. The chances of it breaking, especially with your limp first time dick, are practically null. Anything more than that and you may as well whack one out
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>>169647221
Karmafleet will take almost anyone. Ascendance will take literally anyone. Don't look for corps specialized in mining because all of them have miners anyway
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>>169647278
Just one. If you put on more than one you create the risk of both condoms breaking. Also, make sure when you are fucking to put your dick ALL the way in. When you think you've reached the bottom of your shaft, lush some more. Imagine your churning butter, firm and deep, rub her clit with your pelvis
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r8 my character lads
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>>169648727
gay/10
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>>169648727
sucks dick/10
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>>169648727
If Moff Tarkin had a Rogaine regimen.
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>>169648727
>receding hairline
>no jawline definition

numale detected
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>>169648727
looks very bland and forgetable
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>"gf"
>It was a shit fight
>>
My first death. Dude mailed me 10 million afterward. Probably realized I was new as shit to this.

2017.02.28 01:54:58

Victim: Ete Eto
Corp: Mission Ready Mining
Alliance: Fly Fearless
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Merlin
System: Lisbaetanne
Security: 0.4
Damage Taken: 11785

Involved parties:

Name: Corelior Sentinel / Serpentis
Damage Done: 10631

Name: Helo Dhals (laid the final blow)
Security: -3.10
Corp: The Red Island Foundation
Alliance: Shadow Cartel
Faction: None
Ship: Svipul
Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 1154

Destroyed items:

Metal Scraps, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer (Cargo)
Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Small Armor Repairer I
Iridium Charge S, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Small Shield Booster I
Iron Charge S, Qty: 177
Contaminated Lorentz Fluid, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Broken Drone Transceiver, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Iron Charge S, Qty: 8212 (Cargo)
Civilian Data Analyzer
Tripped Power Circuit (Cargo)
Light Electron Blaster I

Dropped items:

Small Automated Carapace Restoration
Light Electron Blaster I
Iron Charge S, Qty: 177
Stasis Webifier I
1MN Afterburner I
Conductive Polymer (Cargo)
Damaged Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Contaminated Lorentz Fluid (Cargo)
Salvager I
Acolyte I (Cargo)
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>>169650130
>Victim: Ete Eto
>Corp: Mission Ready Mining
>Alliance: Fly Fearless
>Faction: Unknown
>Destroyed: Merlin
>System: Lisbaetanne
>Security: 0.4
>Damage Taken: 11785
>Involved parties:
>Name: Corelior Sentinel / Serpentis
>Damage Done: 10631
>Name: Helo Dhals (laid the final blow)
>Security: -3.10
>Corp: The Red Island Foundation
>Alliance: Shadow Cartel
>Faction: None
>Ship: Svipul
>Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II
>Damage Done: 1154
>Destroyed items:
>Metal Scraps, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
>Small Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer (Cargo)
>Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
>Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
>Small Armor Repairer I
>Iridium Charge S, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
>Small Shield Booster I
>Iron Charge S, Qty: 177
>Contaminated Lorentz Fluid, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
>Broken Drone Transceiver, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
>Iron Charge S, Qty: 8212 (Cargo)
>Civilian Data Analyzer
>Tripped Power Circuit (Cargo)
>Light Electron Blaster I
>Dropped items:
>Small Automated Carapace Restoration
>Light Electron Blaster I
>Iron Charge S, Qty: 177
>Stasis Webifier I
>1MN Afterburner I
>Conductive Polymer (Cargo)
>Damaged Artificial Neural Network, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
>Contaminated Lorentz Fluid (Cargo)
>Salvager I
>Acolyte I (Cargo)

what did he mean by this
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>>169650130
You seem kind of autistic.
>>
>https://zkillboard.com/kill/60413584/
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>>169650130
TRIF is best corporation. Also join Solar.Eclipse. :D
>>
>join Certified-Organic corp
>download TS3
>sign up on services page
>set up API with highest mask, (they can even read my Jita whore diaries)
>set up TS3 auth from services
>set up Mumble auth from services
>Download Mumble
>set up forums account from services
>please use this info to log into forums and then set up forum-API link
>k
>set up Discord
>Need to make a Discord account first
>k
>Set up Discord auth
>Download Discord
>error, contact our helpdesk pilots in-game
>k
>Set up Jabber
>Download Pidgin
>Set up Skype
>Update Skype, 800mb of ram skype.exe running in the background
>Set up ISBoxer for my Jita whore muktitasking
>Log into Slack
>Bunch of shitposting
>Set up Facebook corp group to recieve (requirement to file for SRP)
>Go lose a ship and link a KM to authenticate the SRP program
>Lose my Arty Vagabond
>ok.
>File Arty Vagabond for SRP
>Denied
>Not a Corp fitting
>okey.
>PINGPIGPING
>QUICK COMMS #3 TIME TO HIT TOWER EVERYONE GET ON NAGAS
>No Naga in new home system
>"C-can I bring my Punisher"?
>"Yes you can bring tackle but you need to download the new tackle comms mumble plugin v0.2 first anon go to this link anon https://a.cocaine.ninja/fvxpoy.exe"
>...O-okey ...I-is it safe?
>"Also make sure you download the new Windoes 10 only Discord Overlay, link is somewhere on the forums."
>Cool
>Searching Forums
>Access Denied: Need additional APIs
>Set up my Jita whore API so I can make it to the fleet
>"Ok everyone undoc- anon are you really a Jita whore"?
>New program has to update, doesn't ask for permission.
>Reboot PC
>Corp channel blinking
>Alliance channel blinking
>Director wants to start new conversation
>Pidgin blinking
>Discord blinking
>Skype blinking and using 2gb of ram
>TS3 blinking
>Mumble blinking, tackle comms mumble plugin going nuts
>/eog/ dies
>Forums notifications blinking
>new Facebook message on your wall.
>ANNNOOOON GET ON COOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMSSSSS
>My mind slowly drifts into the abyss.
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>>169650482
>>169650702
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60413584/
>>169651015
You've said this before.
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>>169651424
I did.
Try this fit
[Merlin, Merlin]
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Small F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Tracking Computer I,Optimal Range Script

Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
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>>169651665
>Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
I don't have the skill set for this one. I was just going to buy some cheap hybrid turrets and see how it worked out
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>>169652129
Sure, it shouldn't be a problem.
>>
What the fuck kinda alliance does this?
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>tfw you MJD away from a group only for their Bifrost to jump everyone right to you
>>
>he didn't MJD aligned to a celestial

you deserved to die shitter
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FUCKING SALVAGERS GET OUT OF MY ANOM
RRRRREEEEEEEE
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gay ones pls go
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>>169653925
gay ones is fag
>>
>>169653925
>being this fascist

Anticom plz go
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>>169653790
he probably bookmarked the site. you should pop all the wrecks.
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strat paps
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apocalypse
>>
oneiros
>>
>minmatar
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>EVE
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>not living in hs like gentleman away from pvp retards
why do you even play this game
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REMINDER THAT 4CHAN CORPS ARE RAN BY BULLIES
>>
Sentry drones are bae
>>
alpha clones were a mistake
>>
>>169609659
Remember that you will need at least 150 DPS for the final SOE mission. It fucks with new players who are not used to having to break a heavy tank.
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So not looking forward to finishing the Sisters of Eve epic arc. I have no clue what I want to do in this game. Never had such open endedness in an MMO before; its daunting.
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>>169668428
So was your life and you don't see anyone complaining.
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>>169613770
stunt????
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>>169670457
Read through this chart for something that sounds like it may interest you and give it a try. If you like it, keep at it. If not, try something else.
>>
apocalypse
>>
>>169670741
You're wrong
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Hi /eog/, been away for a few years.

If I don't need to train anything on my main and don't need anything on my alts either, I can just extract all the extra SP I get and sell it, right? With current prices it'd be enough for a plex each month. Or is there something else I should do with it that gets me more ISK?
>>
>more isk

Sell your kidneys irl for plex money
>>
>>169670457
join a corp and do whatever they do, and if you don't like it leave and join another until you find something you like doing
>>
>"Anon get on discord"
>Get on discord
>90% of chat is anime
>>
>having a discord
>>
>join a memeservice run by tripfags and redditors
>hurr why is it so bad
>>
>discord
>not slack
>>
>>169675091
this
>>
>>169672762
You will probably want to compare the price of extractors with injectors first before trying this.
>>
>slack
>not irc

plebs
>>
>>169675721
Extractors seem to be 242m in Jita and Injectors go for 670m. So unless I fucked something up when calculating this on a napkin, I should be able to get three extractors worth of SP in a month, which comes to like 1,2bil ISK after taxes and stuff.

Right?
>>
>>169676357
If you are training with +5s and an optimal remap you should be able to train slightly under 2 million skill points per month, three extractors is lowballing it.
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>>169676678
Oh right yeah, I can use my alt for it instead of my main so I don't need to worry about getting podded in a +5 clone.

Genious.
>>
>sp increase from 4 to 5 is still a thing
Why is this allowed
>>
>>169677159
What?
>>
>>169677347
It takes retarded amount of time to level any skill 4>5, several times more than 1>4
>>
>>169677392
Hmm, yes, I wonder why that might be.
>>
>>169677472
because there is a big jump in sp requirement no? if skill maxes out at 1mil sp then 750k will be from 4>5, this is retarded.
>>
Are you suggesting that training a skill to 5 for the full benefit it provides should be faster, or that the earlier levels should take longer?
>>
>>169677583
The point is that it takes only a small amount of time to get to 80% effectiveness but a long time if you want to master it.
>>
>>169677828
>>169677819
I don't want for everything to be locked behind "just get lvl 1 of this skill which requires several lvl5 skills". If all it makes it "longer to master" then there is no reason to lock equipment behind it.
>>
That's just how things are, unfortunately. Needing skills like science and graviton physics for hics when the skills provides no benefit is irritating, but you have the option of simply flying something else.
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Is there any corps recruiting around? I only played casually years ago. 12m SP (mostly spent on PvE and Industrial skills) And, yes I'm omega.
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>>169571109
>>169678657
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>>169674704
>tfw PH CEO bans anime from discord
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>>169679441
>being in PH
>>
>>169571109
>sent application through your recruitment website
>and join recruitment channel
>>
>>169603508
Oh yea, they guy ignored me (as he should had), it was just some corp mail...i guess i shouldn't have named my mail "im gay".
>>
oneiros
>>
>>169676357
>>169676678
It's like 3.8 extractors worth of sp per month. It's worth doing at the moment but the profit margin is getting smaller all the time because plex is going up. Also there was that free mtc thing a few weeks ago which people will have abused the shit out of.
>>
>not just having 10 alt farms for the sole purpose of leveling yourself faster.
>>
>Not just starting EVE in 2003 and already having all the skills you want at 5.
>>
>not having t2 BPO
>>
>levelling
>>
I wish crafting had faster times even at the highest levels
>>
Do I have to level a dwarf character to craft in this game?
>>
>>169684556
Yes, loli dwarf to craft pills. But you need recipe from male dwarf.
>>
What toon is great at pvp, with some questing at the side?
>>
>>169685278
Wizard
>>
>toon
>>
>in "regular" mmo you level up your character, you have no diffirence in stats inbetween levels
>in eve you train skills with no diffirence in stats inbetween levels of skills
so
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>>169686384
What?
>>
Hey capsuliers , it's still ok farm through blitz level 4 or I can do better isk/hour ?
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>>169686384
>>169686908

EvE "levels" are the skill training time. Every sub MMO has ways to make you lose money. In WoW was levels, gear and travel time. In eve its the time it takes to train skills along with isk (isk to much less extent).
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>>169689704

Correction:
>*ways to make you lose time

My bad. Keyword here is "time".
>>
>time meme
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Willsmith posters are the worst
Stop avatarfagging
>>
Dogs are worse than Will Smith desu
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Time for me to save thread from dogs and blacks!
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>>169690962
I'm sure anime is worse than dogs and or blacks
>>
>>169691623
t. normalfag
>>
If I'm in a ship with a jump drive and calibration 4, and a friend with JDC5 opens a bridge at a range only accessible with 5, can I jump through? I'm assuming yes but I'd like confirmation.
>>
https://zkillboard.com/kill/59672724/
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>citadel
>npc only killmail
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>>169694782
Can i stick my dic in it?
>>
Should I sell my soul and start playing EVE? My only real concern would be finding a Corp to play in that won't set me up to be an eternal shitter.
>>
>jila
>>
>hmm let's check the corp killboar...
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60408699/
>>
>>169696537
>being in goons
>>
>rails
>>
>>169678003
Shit that's locked behind retarded 40-day trains is stupid, yeah, as well as shit that gets massive bonuses to the point where the skill at 5 is basically mandatory (Recon 5 for cloaky recons, JDC 5, etc).

In general the system is good though.
>>
>>169699737
No
>>
>100mm steel plates II
>>
>order has been shipped

:)
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infinite
>>
>standard
>>
>eight (8) guns
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>>169700412
In general yes it is. You can get a lot of value from a few days training but if you want to max out something and be the best at it you spend a long time on it. Makes perfect sense. Cap train times are bullshit though.
>>
who most /comfy/ null aliance to chill in comms with and make isk?
>>
>>169707138
>null
>isk
choose one
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>finally found a comfy wormhole corp
>1 week and I've already mined half a plex worth of gas
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>>169707323
>>
>>169707962
who is it pls tell me
>>
>>169708056
All-Out
>>
>>169706498
>Cap train times are bullshit though
I agree with you. Capitals train waaaay too fast.
Dread being x18 would be fine imo, but Carrier should be x50 and Titan something like x120.
Capitals should be ten times the size, hundred times the resources and get slight buffs all across the board.

And with a hard limit of one per fleet.

And titans should be able to DD moons, stargates and planets
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>>169708257
>Wanting to give the power of destroying stargates to entities that own more than 400 titans so they can build more even tho they already mine 2 every 3 days on average.
>>
>>169708257
>And with a hard limit of one per fleet.

great idea anon this'll certainly stop people using more than one of them
>>
>>169708449
They can destroy stargates.
Impossible to rebuild tho.

They can destroy wormholes too and that stops them from spawning

>>169708710
N-no y-you ~~!
>>
it seems like CCP can't manage the economical and supply side of eve
>>
>>169709082
My turn!
Local is removed from nullsec and blops can jump from wormhole space.
>>
>>169709308
lol
>>
>>169706498
Long train times are fine.

They keep away normie scum.
>>
>Caldari
>>
>Minmatar
>>
>amarr
>>
>gayllente
>>
>Eve
>>
>Ares
>>
Seriously now what the fuck does minmatar serve for? Everything that's related to them is shit. Why choose them?
>>
>>169714945
>>169715321
>>169715565
>>169715772
>gallente haters are the most immature
why is this?
>>
>>169716159
for blobs they have long range web memes which break the game
>>
>>169716167
Gallente are godless degenerates
>>
>>169716159
Arties are great.
>>
>>169716548
That doesn't explain the immaturity.
>>
>>169716943
almost as good as rails and beams
>>
>>169717604
Arties have alpha and selectable damage type, rails and beams don't.
>>
>>169717670
yeah rails and beams have dps and range instead
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what if
>supers can jump to a random WH but can't ever leave it
>tyrannos drifters go after logged in supers
>killing them causes drifter incursions that keep getting stronger
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raitaru is pretty cute desu
>>
What's considered a bling fit?
>>
Why are there no keepstars in Perimiter?
>>
>>169721208
500 mil+ in module value

Less for frigates
>>
How do I get started? I downloaded the game, does it get better after the initial tutorials? It seems bit, boring or something. On good side people seem to be very talkative.
>>
>>169721208
any not-stupidly-cheap faction or t2 rigs. an a-type explosive plating is 1 mil and a lot of t2 frigate rigs are like 5 mil, I wouldn't call them bling
>>
>>169721502
It is pretty slow and boring, but the good moments are amazing. Treat it as a project you develop over a long time, not as instant gratification, there isn't much of that.

Explore a bit, witness cool and awful things, and set some goals.
>>
>>169721447
>>169721603

That's not it. Bling is when the fitted modules combined price is disproportionally high to the hull price. There's a bit of a skew at the low end of the curve, because small ship hulls are so cheap.
>>
>>169721813
>Bling is when the fitted modules combined price is disproportionally high to the hull price

People use the term "blingy" much more liberally, i.e. for t3cs. Those aren't generally disproportional.
>>
Suffice it to say a blingy fit is something that suicide gankers will throw several ganknados or talosi at and still come out isk positive if loot fairy permits.
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>highsec
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>wormholes
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Hey space friends

im kinda new and i want to do wormhole stuff

what mapping application should I use?
>>
[Nightmare, Nightmare]
Fourier Compact Tracking Enhancer
Fourier Compact Tracking Enhancer
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
Dark Blood Heat Sink
Dark Blood Heat Sink

Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Large Cap Battery I
Dread Guristas Thermal Dissipation Field
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster

Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
True Sansha Tachyon Beam Laser
True Sansha Tachyon Beam Laser
True Sansha Tachyon Beam Laser
True Sansha Tachyon Beam Laser

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Acolyte I x15

Imperial Navy Multifrequency L x8
Multifrequency L x4
Infrared L x4
Blood Ultraviolet L x4


r8 it m8
>>
Would you buy a T2 BPO for 131.4 trillion ISK?
>>
>>169723329
>Large Cap Battery I

why
>>
>>169723320
>Not using pen and paper like a true explorer
Pleb
I use Vippy
>>
>>169723367

Sure. Open trade at 4-4.
>>
>>169723320
Eve W-space
>>
>>169723620

Must be a misclick. Surely he meant RF battery.

>>169723329

Needs less cap rigs and more laser cap usage rigs.
>>
>no prop mod

how do you plan to do anything
>>
>>169723329
>T1 TEs
>T1 resists
>T1 cap battery
>faction guns
>4 faction heat sinks and not 3-1
what the flying fuck am I even looking at here
>>
>>169724223
I'll walk.
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>>169721723
Thanks, I'll start to go deeper. I plan to go in balls deep but slowly. I guess that's good advice. Now that I have more free time I plan to penetrate it good.
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>>169723620
>why
can't fit t2

>>169723858
>Needs less cap rigs and more laser cap usage rigs.

i didn't think of those and had the materials for the cap rigs lying around

>>169724271
>what the flying fuck am I even looking at here

something meant to collect elite drone ai's with no sp
>>
>>169725000
get some fuckin SP you goddamn faggot
>>
>>169725000
faction cap batteries are broken, their fitting is massively reduced

cap usage rigs are usually worse than cap rigs if you aren't feeding yourself throuhg a transfer, cap booster or nos

and not having a prop mod is a bigger concern than everything, even an afterburner is possibly enough on the mememare with its stupid bonus, if you're just doing noob pve
>>
>>169725185
send injector
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>>169724685
Just make sure you get a corp or at least join a lot of channels. EVE is all about research and being informed and in touch with other players. You're not gonna have fun if you play it like a single player game.
>>
How many bombs would it take to kill a super?
>>
>>169725697
All of them
>>
>go live in WHs they said
>it's hardcore af they said
>haven't seen a person or gotten a kill in fucking days
>>
>he fell for the wormholes meme
>>
>>169726406
You're meant to join a corp that lives in them, not get lost in them by yourself.
>>
>>169726406
That's what makes it hardcore you fucking casual
>>
>>169726406
join oruze cruise
get tons of kills
>>
>>169726684
>staying docked in your WH citadel and not killing anything for days is hardcore

I seriously hope you guys don't do this. You fucking CCP cucks. tell me your ign so that I can make sure you're not in any of my corps
>>
What can the Loki do besides long range webs? I just saw that I barely need to train shit to get it.
>>
>>169727160
>waa i haven't killed anything for days
>what do you mean I have to undock

Is it really possible to be as retarded as this?
>>
>>169727501
Yep. I've seen even worse.
>>
Whs are dead as fuck, prove me wrong.

Hint: You can't
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>>169727358
be bad at dps compared to other meme3cs
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>White Stag Exit Bag
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>>169729101
Looks like they're all out of members.
>>
jesus WHs are dead. Look at all out, HK, NoVac, and the others cucks
>>
>>169727358

Target paint and bubble immunity.
>>
if this general keeps being this dead it'll soon be merged with the star citizen/elite general
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>star citizen

thanks anon
>>
>reeeeeeeeeeeEVE Online
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>you still can't play as a rogue drone
>>
>>169728000
>>169729452
That sounds pretty awful.
>>
>>169729452
it doesn't have painter bonus
>>
>>169732640

Nobody is forcing anyone to get in a minmatar ship of any kind. If your FC tells you to bring one and you show up in a drake instead, is he going to kick you off the fleet instead of having more dps on field?
>>
>>169732978
Probably kick you out of the fleet because your drake is slow and you'll end up either slowing down the entire fleet or lagging behind until you get picked off by randoms.
>>
plenty of FCs kick retards out of fleet.
>>
>>169733404
yeah that 1 second longer align time is brutal
>>
>>169732978
>suddenly someone's forcing me
Nobody's asking me to bring anything. I'm just close enough to get it that I thought "might as well".
>>
D E A D
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>mfw using the in-game fitting tool because eft is dead

when will we get a usable fitting tool, this is unbearable
>>
>kit-soon
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>That guy that brings a ferox to a caracal fleet
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>>169738913
there's one already
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>mfw have to use Pyfa because EFT is dead
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>mfw just use fits found on zkillboard or alliance doctrines
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>>169741979
>fits found on zkillboard
They can't be very good if they died, can they?
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Where do these: https://zkillboard.com/item/9562/

Come from?
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>>169742372
>Implying PvP has anything to do with fitting
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>>169742372
All pvp ships die eventually, Anon.

I go through a lot of fits of reputable pilots and alliances. Then I pick one or mix some for what I want it to do.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/60415561/

Super ganked in Amarr.
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>Resub recently after being gone for years and am broke
>Exploring a wh and warp to a safe spot right next to another ship
>He's lost and pays me 30 mil to take him to an exit

I like this game.
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>>169743767

>30m

You do realize he likely had a fucking fortune in cargo, right?
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>>169743392
B-But the Prorator is supposed to be unbeatable...
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Isn't it (((strange))) that the PLEX is hovering exactly at 1bil (within a 5mil volatility) for almost an entire quarter so far?
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>>169742762
shield tanked rats drop them
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>>169744427

Not really.

What's more (((strange))) is injector prices rapidly climbing despite this being the period of supply that should have driven it down
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>>169744427

CCP manipulates the market by creating and removing plex (simple enough matter when you have devhacks).
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>>169744427
>tfw I've bought $500 of plex in the last few months
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>>169744023

I figured, but 30 mil to me is a lot right now, especially when all I had to do was show him an wormhole exit.
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>>169744587
No they don't. They manipulate it using seized PLEX and ISK.
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>>169744773

How would you know? There's no way anyone can tell. They can spawn as many as they like and sell/buy with as many characters as they like, they have full editing tools available.
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>tfw been "playing" for years

>only ever actively play when I have a group of friends who tell me what to do and then they eventually stop getting on till months pass and I find another

>tfw have never let my training queue go empty since I started

>tfw have this omnitalented battle god character who can fly almost everything (100% sub caps including pirate factions 5 star) with T2 modules from toes to head.

>tfw haven't played enough to make any use of it because I'm rusty as fuck

I just want a corp to tell me what to do. I can't make my own fun.
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>>169744976
Because PLEX is revenue to them and they're not going to devaluate their GTCs by artificially adding more of it to the game. Especially when there's trillions and trillions of seized RMT ISK and assets that they can use.
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>>169745007
Thats ok, anon. I don't like playing alone too.
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>>169745007

Just make a post on forums or reddit and people will be clamoring over you.

That or just extract the character and start anew with all core and support skills maxed
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>>169745007
>I just want a corp to tell me what to do
Well, join a corp.
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>2 gorillion years in the future
>can warp across a system in a minute
>can jump multiple systems in minutes
>can instantly communicate multiple lightyears away
>can't email some coordinates to some faggot in the same system
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>>169747439
>no ebooks
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>eos
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Is a terrible corp history and obvious API links to alts a decent reason to start over?

Anywhere I try to go now I feel like I have to go into years of explanation and even proof that I'm not RMT'ing because of my transactions between alts.

I'm really tempted now to just extract my SP, sell all my shit and start over. I also want a male character rather than female, I'm sick of having to use that name in comms etc.

Is jetcanning the only way to transfer things without a trace?
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>>169729101
Wait is this real
I'm in All-Out
I don't check our member count
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>>169749131
Literally everyone in the game transfers money between alts.
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>>169750282

The rest is the main problem. If I buy some extractors I can maintain ~75% of my original SP and use the character as an injector farm
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Someone post a cloaky nullified shield tengu fit, please.
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>>169751438
I have never flown a t3c
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is all-out finally dead?
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>>169753876
is that linux?
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>>169754401
Yes
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>>169753876
>4 launchers
use the sub that gives you 5, emergent locus or something
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>>169754481

EVE and pyfa on Linux

Could you be more of a nerd? What distro would you recommend for a beginner?
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>>169755151
gentoo
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>>169755151
>Could you be more of a nerd?
Yes, I could be running Plan9.

>What distro would you recommend for a beginner?
Ubuntu. Don't use the GUI package manger (Synaptic?) to install stuff though, use a command line instead. That thing taught me so many bad habits.
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>>169753939
Apparently.
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Who are the /dog/-approved CSM candidates?
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>>169759884
Xenuria
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>>169759884
Jonn Duune
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>>169759884
Me
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>>169760148
pls no, once was enough. even if it was ironic
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>>169753939
Yeah, All-Out's dead. CEO bailed and cucked everybody out of the stuff they had in the citadel.
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>>169749952
All-Out of members.
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>>169761031
How will EVE have pretty hands and feet and clothes and shoes then??
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>>169761214
lower res than second life! and why do all the womens shoes have high heels?
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/60438195/

>Goons
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Join KarmaFleet today!


https://zkillboard.com/character/2112431646/

Day one noob to awoxing a faction super carrier in less then one week!
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>>169763559
>>169763605
>the guy who lost this vendetta is running for CSM
>he was fucking ratting
>the karmafleet member who AWOXed was warp disrupting the super
Everything about this killmail is hilarious.
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My first legit kill today (not a corvette) was against PH. Feels good.
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>>169763926
If you need high speed out of a four core, the 7700k is worth looking at.
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>>169767206
>not getting a R7 1700
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>>169767737
Would eve use all the cores?
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>>169767918
when you multibox it will :^)
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>>169767206
I'm not sure. I can find yes and no answers when I search and I can't seem to find a definite spec for Eve. Untill someone can show me some relatively official reference saying eve can use more than 4 cores, I'd recommend the 7700K to anyone looking for the #1 option. If yes, then the R7 1700 looks like it takes the cake.
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>>169768041
Touche...I think. I haven't seen anything that actually says that. Although it would make sense. Some programming can be really nitpicky. Sometimes of you tell a program to use cores 0-3, it'll only use those no matter how many there actually are.
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so brave got cucked today
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>>169768791
I saw a couple good puches on the boards, but nothing I would call cucked.
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>>169769194
it was actually a shitload of fun, i survived four bombing runs as a t1 logi and got to watch lots of caps duke it out. sad we lost the fort though.
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>>169768791
just another day for brave
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>>169769230
Nice. I haven't seen shit like that yet. I need to fleet up more often.
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If you had 17.5m SP to make a fixed race character, what race would they be and what would you have them fly?
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Is Brave the punching bag of EVE?
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>Destroying someone's MTU in high sec just gives you a suspect tag and doesn't get you Concorded
This seems really inconsistent with the rest of the game. Every other instance of attempting to blow up someone's shit in high sec gets you Concorded.
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>>169772423

Cry more carebear homo
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>>169772423
I know right? How'd they even find it anyway?
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>>169772423
Why don't you just alpha them like it did in my marauder and warp off.
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>>169768791
I padded my KB super hard today so I'm 100% ok with the turnout.
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>young, virile Amarr men
>pure, god fearing qts
>neither of which you can be because only the Elderly are available

For FUCK sake ccp
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>>169771501
gallente or minmatar
gallente if I like brawling and ratting, minmatar for nano gay baby stuff
but this is stupid because they all have good ships here and there that do different things
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gallente
because drones
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>>169763851
I've heard he got noticed because he would keep killing ESSs with his Vendetta in that system. So they set one and waited for him to show up.

Literally baited on a free ESS.
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I wish they would remove training implants for better remaps. Make me want to do actual PVP more instead of "oh but I'll miss out on 5 minutes of training"
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>>169775949

There's no point in focusing on training anymore. You can literally just inject whatever you need, and the isk required for it is miniscule.
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>>169776051
>. You can literally just inject whatever you need, and the isk required for it is miniscule.
I'm not space rich though
Tops I make 75m isk/hour and I sit in citadel 90% of the time
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>>169776163
>75m isk/h
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>>169776212
>goalposts
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>>169775190
minmatar do not kite, they brawl
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>tfw filled courier to get my ship into nulls
>tfw only 18m reward for it (according to calculator)
>tfw no one will bother with it but im too retarded to get ship myself over there
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>>169777654
Which calculator?
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>extract my 2008 original character from 34m SP
>6 weeks on I don't even like my gallente pure perfect skills pvp character
>21m SP and if I do it again it'll diminish further unless I spend $105 on extractors

Maybe I should do it and just make up for it with my then 2 injector farm alts. I have 3 months sub on the accounts so I could get a fair bit off of them.

I don't know. I've already made a terrible mistake once. Goodnight
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>>169744427
>market isn't swinging up and down ike a faggot
>omg must ze juice xDD
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>>169778572
the general rule for not being a shitter is don't extract your skills
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>>169778647

I enjoyed having a qt character for like a week and now I just hate seeing it and hearing my (female) name in comms. What makes it even worse is that Americans mispronounce it horribly too
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>>169778116
well, they said like "1500isk per cube" and with all i wanted to ship it totalled to 18m reward...feels so little for me, who would even bother.
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>>169778842

They'll take it at the same time as others.
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>>169778842
http://black-frog.red-frog.org/jumps.php
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>>169779380
this one was one of couple of our suggested logistic corps, but like...it's 450m MINIMUM reward i need to put and i only got like ~12k cubes or something to ship, i had to buy myself a fleet of spare ships and fit for them in order to justify paying 450m to ship "up to 320k cubes".
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>>169779576
Thats why you don't live in null unless the alliance you are in have his own jump freighters :)
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>>169779752

Abaddon plushie would be sweet.
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Is there a goons corp that accepts with no API?
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>>169779881
t. spy
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>>169779881
DJ's Retirement Fund, just throw in an app and I'll accept ya. Just say "Mittens is a faget" in the app. So I know it's you.
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>>169780019
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>>169772712
Combat probes
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>>169779809
i guess the one i put contract on IS an alliance JF corp...hence low price, but still.

Our corp ourselves has FJ pilot but i've been told "he's kinda fuck knows where"
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>>169780158
Dunno then. Whats the alliance?
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>want to train JF alt
>don't want to bother with leveling 5 cyno alts
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>>169780019

I'll do that tomorrow :) cheers mate
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Would you rat in a Vendetta?
I would

Would you rat in a Revenant?
Me - yes

Why is it not a very common sight?
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>>169780649
Because it's retarded
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>>169780649
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>>169782525

Post killmails.
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>Extended downtime from 11:00 to 11:30
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>>169783684
Fuck.
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>>169780703
Why?
It's gonna pay itself several times over.
And it's a better use than spinning it in your local keepstar.

Not using it is like not using an AT ship - what's the point.
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>>169780649
>when a rando asks in Alliance chat why people don't rat in a Vendetta literally hours before the first one dies
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>>169744535
It's people with huge injector farms driving up prices. They want to offload their injectors before SP farming alphas crash the market.
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>>169783847
Or you can buy another super pilot and a super, or boson rat in a titan
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>>169784373
But that's multiboxing.
Multiboxing a shit.

Titan ratting sounds good.
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x if baka
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>>169784561
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>>169749131
>Is a terrible corp history and obvious API links to alts a decent reason to start over?
No, most corps don't care where you've been unless you've screwed over your old corp.

>I'm really tempted now to just extract my SP, sell all my shit and start over. I also want a male character rather than female, I'm sick of having to use that name in comms etc.
I wouldn't sell it. Turn into a incursion/FAX/dread/carrier/JF/tengu hunter/whatever alt and extract the SP you don't need.
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>>169776163
> 75mil isk/hr
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>>169784605
x
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>tfw I could make 300m Isk/h with FW missions
>don't do it for more than an hour per week because there's no ticks
>the Isk comes from LP so it doesn't feel real
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>>169784605
>>169784978
fuck off reddit
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>tfw don't know how to do FW.
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>unironically meme warfare
>not L5s
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>>169785180
kek, get lost newfag
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>>169785342
Its easy. What do you want to know?
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EVE Online 2 when?
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>amarr
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>>169785741
Well, all i know really is that you sing up and then get killed by other faction's milita, or kill them...also some kild of missions which i thought just regular l4 but instead of getting isk you get killed at gate by campers. That's all i heard about fw...
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>unironic missions unironically
>not unironic jita erp
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will this game be something good for someone to just casually play while waiting to die? or are there no paths that doesn't require you to invest brainpower?
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>>169786436
Go up the orthrus skill tree and you should be fine
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>>169786378
basically there are sites in FW space called with:
novice
small
medium
large
And you do those sites for LPs. For novice you need like 80dps and it goes higher with each.
On novice you can fly with: frigs t1 and faction
Small: faction dessies and lower
Med: fact cruisers and lower
Large: everything
On those sites you have timer and you kill rats untill it will end. Then you receive LPs.
In which militia are you?
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What the hell I thought this maintenance was supposed to be done. I just engaged in a fight and got d/c
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>>169581168
>>169568456
>>169568906
also on thorax chin
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>>169785678
>stunt worship
>not reddit
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>>169787778
whatever makes you wet, sweety
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>5 karma deposited on your account
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>>169786863
Oh, there are sites now? i never tried FW and only read about it a bit several years ago...i think it was just implemented and "24th crusade" crashed amarr lp.

Is it dangereous? Do i need to do sites in pvp fit or something? I thought about donig gallente, (but noticed my alt has -0.04 with them lul), but really don't see any diffirence.
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>blitzing lvl 4s in the safety of high sec is bad because it's only 200m isk/hour
>incursions aren't worth it because you could get ganked and there's a wait list sometimes
>running FW missions is bad because you could lose a ship to camps if you don't scout
>carrier ratting isn't worth it because you could be running lvl 5s
>super ratting isn't worth it because lvl5s make more
>smart bomb ratting is dumb because the isk/h per account is too low
>lvl 5s aren't worth it because you need a 40b worth of alts and ships to run them
>titan ratting isn't worth it because you'll lose it to inner hell
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>>169789008
>running l5
>for 800isk\lp
Why.
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>>169789008
>>lvl 5s aren't worth it because you need a 40b worth of alts and ships to run them
wut
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>>169789423
carrier to run the missions
scouts in every in gate
alts accept the missions and tank standing loss
super to cyno in if you get dropped
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>>169789623
>taking gates
Jesus. You just buy carrier for each system. I do them with 2 chars. Puller and carrier pilot
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>>169789705
> carrier for each system
>Puller and carrier pilot
that's easily 40b, senpai
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>>169789705
How do you make a level 5 mission puller?
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>>169790095
One carrier costs 2-2,5b. So 7,5b and two chars.
>>169790564
Standing to faction+standing to militia corp of this faction. At least 7.0
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>want to fly a command ship
>takes 20b worth of skillpoints
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>train to IV, inject to V
Boo hoo what a problem
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>carrier for each system
>they dont know about hysera
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>>169790095
3 systems
3 carriers
Each carrier is about 2.2b after fits and fighters
It's more like 6-7b after all said and done
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>>169789401
Because it makes some 800m an hour
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>dude literaly livestreaming anything you need to know about L5
>people still being retarded and not knowing shit
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>>169792102
okay you got me how do i sing up.
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>>169791887
>someone has no idea about some pleb system
wat do
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>>169792146
Someone is streaming eve? what the fuck?
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>>169792236
Make 2 level 5 mission pullers by doing the cosmos missions. You need 5.0+ with the race not the corporation THE RACE of your choice and do those racial cosmos missions
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Can you do level 5s if you aren't in an alliance that can help you if you get caught by dropping a bunch of supers?
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>>169792459
You don't get caught
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>>169792459
Yeah, but you have to actually use d-scan
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>>169792459
You can't cynical into most of the mission sites

You can certainly run the missions while another Alliance occupies the area

If you get caught in a site it's all your fault and you're dead and theres little you can do but hope your fighters kill the tackler or you can jam him to get away
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>>169792596
>cynical

You can't cyno into most mission sites
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>>169792441
DO NOT DO COSMOS MISSIONS
I REPEAT
DO
NOT
They are so outdated buggy and shitty, you will hate your life, do FW mssions L2s and then L3s or turn tags and straight to L3s, much quicker and painless.

COSMOS are so broken its not funny, some missions require you to make a ticket to CCP because of how broken they are, some others require items from pubic anomalies and long respawn timers, so people camp them to sell the items to suckers like you.
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>>@everyone above
>>169792441
Okay, seriously tho, what do i do to do it?
What is puller, just someone who takes missions? I have 2 accounts right now: "main" and some gay i've been leveling for FW or pirate missions or some other stuff, maybe just extract him, don't know. I suppose i need +7 fac standing with both of them?
Is "pulling" just means "taking mission"? I might not want to do FW on main because of fear of fucking up rep.

(5minutes in googl) Oh, okay, so the only reason to have more than 1 char is to take more than 1 mission with the same agent? Will just launching 3 accounts at the same time and doing mission on one of them in a fleet be good enough? to level to +7? Can i jump to sites other chars accepted or only

By the way, why +5 faction standing? So i can get to 7 form cosmos? Also I thought declining missions will reduce standing anyways so you can't really keep it at +7...

So in the end i need:
1 carrier ready goy.
2+ goys with 7+ standing to faction, this may or may not include carrier rider.
Carrier in every system just because i hate cyno.
I just realised that carriers can't dock, right? How do i even?
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>have 7+ standings with minmatar and gallente on main
>two trade alts that could pull amarr and caldart L5s
>minmatar carrier 5 and fighters 5
>tfw corp doesn't allow jewing in lowsec because some australian tried to 'rent' a L5 constellation for 5b per week and lost 4 carriers to the locals
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>>169793853
the way L5 missiions work is by pulling missions from a main empire NPC, not corporations.
But a lot of the missions are just shittty or impossible for carriers so you cancel them, and you often end up cancelling a lot of them, you need +7 I think to even pull L5s from the NPCs and on top of that you need good standing with those particular NPCs, so you want good social skills all around to V because you will cancel A LOT.
So the more pullers you have the lesser are your chances of getting blocked by low NPC standings because of mass mission denying.

You accept a mission on an alt puller and fleet warp the carrier to the mission, then you turn it in and share the rewards if the other puller needs NPC standings or just not share it if that alt needs the NPC standings.
So essentially you are balancing the NPC standing between the pullers all the time, the way you fix the very slow decaying empire standing is by doing the storyline missions you get every 16 completed regular missions, there are 2 types I know, one needs ore and gives you a +5 implant but very little empire standing and the other is a structure bash with a few rats that is very annoying but easy and gives tons of standings, so you don't need to do it every time you get it, I use ishtar to snipe it because of autism web turrets.

You need at least 1 carrier and 1 puller, but its recommended you have 2 pullers (one can be the carrier pilot) and 4 carrier (one in each NPC mission hub) and you just move between systems on a shuttle or ceptor.

This is quicker and obviously its good to never have to gate a cap in lowsec.
Carrier can dock anywhere, you{re thinking of supers and titans, those can only dock on forts and bigger.
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>>169794436
>drop corp
>problem fixed
>>
oneiros
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>>169796183
no
>>
Designed specifically as an armor augmenter, the Oneiros provides added defensive muscle to fighters on the front lines. Additionally, its own formidable defenses make it a tough nut to crack. Breaking through a formation supported by an Oneiros is no mean feat.

Developer: Roden Shipyards

Deciding that added defensive capabilities would serve to strengthen the overall effectiveness of Gallente ships, who traditionally have favored pure firepower over other aspects, Roden Shipyards came up with the Oneiros. Intrigued, Gallente Navy officials are reportedly considering incorporating this powerful defender into their fleet formations.
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>>169796789
>eos
>>
What is THE ship to solo pvp gate camp in if you literally have unlimited isk?
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>>169797132
sabre
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>>169797132
nyx
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>>169797132

Probably an onyx or phobos. There are more expensive ships but you won't catch anything with them.
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>>169794542
>main empire NPC
Uh, you mean like "Caldari Navy"? i just count those are corporations...which they are.

So i guess i can make 2 pullers, plus carrier on main...what you saying is that i can't just go to bookmark as soon as i accept quest? I only can be in fleet and need separate account for every puller?

And i suppose i need to level for l3 FW as anon said...
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>>169797132

Fiend
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>>169793473
Only one of the missions is broken and they fixed it recently. Most of the missions are tag missions btw
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>unlimited isk

does this mean you don't need infinite ammo?
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>tfw RF EMP L for pve
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>zarvox
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>>169803424
he's ok
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>Caldari
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>>169803424
chennel zahvuks
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>Ferox
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>>169563298
Is it worth doing all of the Career agent missions or no? They seem pretty rewarding thus far but Im not sure if there are better options
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>>169789008
Yeah mate, all those titans Inner Hell's killed. Really makes you think.
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>>169809501
if you are absolutely not interested in industry or some shit like that you don't need to do that one and you can just continue your journey
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>>169798225
no I mean the main empire factions, L5s are only empire
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>>169807354
>ifunny
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>>169811065
Wait what, Factions themselves don't have any agents...they just have corporations in them...am i missing something?
Like this nigger http://evemaps.dotlan.net/agent/Issiah_Hakn is lvl5 agent of amarr navy...but not just Amarr Empire agent.

Also what are good ships for FW plexing(dunno size)\L3 for some somewhat new alt? Just something regular (i don't know what really since i usually just grined L1 missions untill i could do L4)
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>>169812839
yes the agents are part of a corporation and you can pull missions from them if you have good standings with that corp and with the agent, the problem comes when declining missions.

Corp standings get absolutely ass blasted when you decline a mision, while empire standings are barely affected by this, as my previous long post mentioned, you still need to repair the empire faction with storyline missions, but it takes many many many declines to get there.
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>>169812839
>Also what are good ships for FW plexing(dunno size)\L3 for some somewhat new alt? Just something regular (i don't know what really since i usually just grined L1 missions untill i could do L4)
I used a XLSB VNI with max dps and hyperspatials, cleared sites very fast and only needed one 1-2 charges per site to tank it all.

For L4s you can use a bomber and a T3D to clear the webbing frigs and then you just clear the building missions.
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>>169772027

Yes
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Just came back after a huge break

Can someone explain why trit is under 4 ISK? Did people stop PVPing, or is there unironical inflation after an entire decade of none?
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>>169818794
roq.
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>>169818954
What about it? You can bring it to highsec?
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>>169819148
You couldn't before? I didn't really know anything about it lol.

Roq now has some retarded strong 'excavator' mining drones, that's what i know.
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>>169819273

It's an elite PvP ship that's getting nerfed
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ok bullshit aside, who are the best incursion people?
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>>169818794
The new Rorqual is pretty OP in many different ways, and is currently in the process of being repeatedly nerfed. When the new Rorq first came out it was capable of consistently generating over 250m/hr of ore in null. It was also extremely easy to multibox Rorqs, as you could leave its new excavator drones mining away on large nullsec anomaly rocks for long periods of time without input.

Any big null group with the capital umbrella to protect their Rorqs invested into them heavily, with the biggest example being goons. This has brought down the value of most minerals, save for bottlenecks for cap production. The cost of capital ships has also come down due to this, and the introduction of new engineering complex structures.

The Rorq was first hit with a 33% nerf to mining speed, and is being hit by at least a further 25% shortly. It's still easy to multibox, doesn't require competing for anoms, and a lot of people have to recoup the cost of their investment so minerals should be low for a while. The nerfs will likely stabilise the markets a bit however.
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>>169820308
If you're talking public fleets in Highsec, Warp to Me if you lack SP and ISK for really high efficiency fleets, and TVP if you have them.

There are russian groups running in lowsec, and there might be other private groups I don't know about.
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>>169820638
I've got isk and SP.
I checked TVP and it says there are no fleets active, what does that mean?
Also what would you recommend, dps, logi or snowflake role?
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Are Unistas that retarded? They open a campus for solo-activities like exploration and now the are around the campus is oversaturated by alphas, you can't do shit. How the fuck did they think this was gonna work?

Only thing that would really work as an exploration campus is a network of citadels with repair service, spread out through low/null, with constant shipping in and out.
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>>169821023

It works by you bringing in a noob hunting bomber and kill them until they give up.
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>>169820786
I've not run incursions in a bit, but I know TVP are the only high efficiency public group that anyone I know runs with.

If it says there are no fleets active it'll mean just that. You'll have to ask in their channel as to why.

You've a higher chance of getting into fleets if you're willing to take snowflake roles, as FCs sometimes struggle to find competent people to do them. Otherwise it'll depend on what they need most at the time, which will vary depending on who's about. Logi is the cheapest role to get into, and moves fastest between incursions. Vindis are usually in high demand too.
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>>169821023
>exploration campus
What, you're no allowed to leave the constellation? Does EVE-U have agreements with half of EVE to stay clear of their sites?
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>>169822161
No? You can go wherever you want, but most of them are lazy noobs who burn out in a matter of weeks. They got a constant flow of new ones in so they manage to keep the area oversaturated though. They literally scan from the gate, they're either mentally retarded or so lazy it hurts.
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initiated compact warp scrambler
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>inner hell
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60451873/
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>>169824814

How fast does a nano ab hel go? 500m/sec?
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>>169825223
88m/s with all V and heat lmao
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>>169826186

It goes a lot faster than that. Remember to turn off cloak.
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>>169826428
Oh damn you're right. Still pretty bad though, I don't see why you'd want it over more tank apart from the align time.
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>>169827145

It'd be pretty funny to kite with a super, I suppose.
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Memes aside, are amarr decent in the current year?

I know ahacs are alright atm so I'd guess the amarr ones are fine, but aside from cruisers how are they holding up?
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>>169828353
amarr are fine except they suck at solo and obviously they don't like shield memes
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>>169828353
Pretty much any amarr ship that doesn't use lasers is fucking amazing

Lasers are good, they have great range but capacitor use is always an issue
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>anon's continued failure to understand what cap boosters are is always an issue
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>>169830014

You mean all the missile ships? I know of the assault frig but do they have many?

Reason being is I'm returning to the game and deciding which of my 2 original characters to resub. The gallente one is a bit higher sp but aside from the rare use of my blaster boats I don't find it enjoyable at all
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>>169830103
Lack of mids means you cant do things like webs with your scams or other utility things you could want in your mids

Basically the omen is limited to a prop, cap booster and warp disruption which is pretty limited. Same with the Miller however some people do forgo the cap booster for a web because they use pulse lasers instead
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>>169830253
it just means they suck at solo
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>>169830187
Missiles and drones

The vengeance is a good rocket ship but assault frigate s are in a bad spot right now anyway. The confessor is a really good laser ship because it has zero cap issues with its lasers.

The sacrilege is a great heavy brawling missile ship

The Armageddon is an amazing drone ship with neuts

The pilgrim and curse are amazing drone and neut ships aswell
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>pilgrim and curse
>amazing
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>>169830445

But what are space zealots without their lazers? It sounds more like I should cross train the gallente character but that just doesn't feel right
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What are your thoughts on SP and distribution?

If a character has 20m SP, do you expect them to be able to fly almost anything BC or below with the odd T2 weapon here and there, or do you prefer a focused character with solid T2 large guns/missiles/drones and V supports of that particular race?
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>>169830972

Nobody is forcing you to fit lasers. Smartbombs and neuts, with drones for damage.
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>>169831289
>large

nobody uses large weapons in eve at the moment m8
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>>169831289
at 20 mil, BC and lower for all races and weapons at IV, and churning out those support skills to IV and V for all non-weapon T2 mods, and perhaps a T3d or two at V.
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>>169830972
Zealots aren't that great because they're REALLY slow and don't have the resists of the Sacrilege to brawl like it. Sacrilege's used to be one of PL's best doctrines back in like 2010 before CCP nerfed the fuck out of it. Its kind of a kitey ship but can't be fucked to get a decent speed so it can't really kite at all. 3 mids basically means lol no utility and all the lows in the world won't help you do good since you have limited CPU.

Anytime you stick a plate to this thing and think "this could brawl" the sacrilege will do you one better every time
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>>169830516

What? Curse is fucking great. Pilgrim is the cloaky ambush recon, it has its niche and it's good at it.
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>>169831371

What about the sniper BCs?
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>>169831502
they're even worse than battleships, never undock these ships
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>>169831371
Sure they do, the proliferation of pirate battleships is huge

Need something bigger better stronger than T3C's? use a machariel, double the tank and potential dps

>>169831502
used sparingly

Oracles are good for bashing because no reloads

Tornados are used for 1400mm ganking thats really it.

Naga's are never fucking used because its literally a large ferox/small rokh It fills no real role

Talos is great for LOTS of damage but its really paper thin so it goes unused most of the time
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>>169831371

Except, you know, marauders and faction bs. Windi still melts your face if it gets to web range, that hasn't changed at all.
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>>169831618
>pirate battleships

for blobs sometimes maybe

>double the tank

mate please

>>169831641
>marauders

lmao
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>>169831574
>>169831618
>>169831315

So what is a laser enthusiast to do? :(
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>>169831502

be a man and fit blasters on the talos.
bump the suspect t1 cruisers out of docking range and rape them.
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>>169831832

'fessors or sansha ships.
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>>169831845
talos is garbage compared to brutix

>>169831832
fly some ships with lasers on them I guess, what's the problem
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>>169831832
oracle
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>>169831818
>for blobs sometimes maybe
For blobs ALL the time, if anyone is gonna bring subcaps to big fleets its max tanked machariels for 490k EHP paired with dual plated guardians, Apostle's for triage and anything else you want. They're the creme de la crop right now.

>double the tank
you think your legion at some 250k was amazing? These machariels boast almost 500k
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>>169831818

Bastion is op, chain mjd good.

Even Paladin is decent if you know what you're doing.
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>>169831937
>brutix
>bumping

m8 you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
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>>169831832
Stick to the laser ships that work best

The Omen Navy issue is extremely fast, agile and projects its pulse lasers out to 48km ish really easy.

Phantasms make it work really well too, ashimmu a close second but not nearly as fast.

Confessor doesn't have any capacitor problems with lasers.

unfortunately laser battleships are shit.

The harbinger is good I guess? its a fat maller with nothing more than a slight damage buff over it and as much tank ideally. IMO the prophecy is better because resists+ drones.

The Tormentor is a great solo pvp frig for lasers
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>>169831937

Problem is it sounds like I'll never have a fleet to fit into and I'll just die solo
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>>169831969
>ALL the time

then what are all these T3Cs I see all the time

>battleship has more ehp than cruiser

impressive
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>>169832178
>then what are all these T3Cs I see all the time
Becoming ousted for bigger and better things that tank better. Machariels do it way better especially for tanking against fighters and fighter bombers. They have way longer range and double the tank.

>battleship has more EHP than a cruiser
a T3C isn't just a cruiser, they're the only cruisers to get EHP far beyond any regular cruiser you dense fuck.
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>>169832113
why, because a talos goes like 3% faster? talos is trash

>>169832171
it sounds like you just want to fly meme ships and complain desu
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>>169832303
>a T3C isn't just a cruiser, they're the only cruisers to get EHP far beyond any regular cruiser you dense fuck.

you're the one being a dense fuck. there are other attributes on ships than ehp
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>>169832307
more like 50% faster. The talos is straight up faster than a thorax or vexor.
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>>169832469
>faster than a thorax

I don't know how wrong you are about the other things, but this right here is definitely kys-tier
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>>169832416
Holy fuck you are so stupid.

The pirate battleship proliferation has been taking hold for the last 6 months and are ousting t3C's as a high tank subcap. The machariels are tanking WAY better, doing more damage, have way more utility because 5 fucking mids you can cheese all sorts of ewar in as you want.

Get a clue
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>>169832545

He's talking about some weird 100mn fit.
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>>169832307

How is wanting to fly with my race's primary weapon system "meme ships"? Surely that just indicates that they need a massive overhaul?
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>>169832669
oh he's retarded, should've known since he's flying a talos over a brutix. I'll stop replying then
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>>169832178
>thinks a t3c gets "regular old cruiser tank"
>calls others dense
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>>169832706
so fly them

>>169832753
>thinks I said that
>types out this retarded reply
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>>169832706
>>169832171
Grow up. Once you're capable of making your own opinions you can come back.
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>>169832876
>>thinks I said that
You directly implied it when you said "wow a battleship has more tank than a cruiser" which directly implies that its just cruiser tank when it obviously doesn't since it gets 37.5% to armor hitpoints
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>he doesn't have infinite ehp
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>>169832950
oh yea AND t2 resist profiles on top of that

theres a reason a legion and proteus can get as high as 250k ehp
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>>169832950
there is no such thing as "just cruiser tank". it's a concept you have imagined. cruisers have lower sig than battleships. t3 cruisers have broken resists, and half of them have afterburner speed bonuses and other retarded bullshit like tackle range bonuses. plus they are a tiny fraction of the mass for wormholes and have like 10x tracking. to say "big ship has more tank and dps than small ship", as though there are no downsides, is incredibly retarded
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>>169832879
>ask about the state of laser boats from people with much more experience to get a good idea
>almost unanimous response everywhere is that they are trash
>rightfully complain that a race's primary ships being broken as a whole should be a rebalance priority if that is true
>"hurrr grow up get your own opinion"

Alright lol
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>>169833316
these are the kind of people who only fly meme ships. if you want to know about laser ships, they will list off the current meme-tier laser ships because they don't consider ships that aren't overpowered to be usable

don't complain when you know nothing pls
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>>169833316
>/eog/
>experienced players
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>>169833316
>one shitposting anon
>much experience wow xD
Sounds like you're the worst kind of player.
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>>169833194
>there is no such thing as "just cruiser tank"
m8 when you call a t3c a "cruiser" it clearly under estimates the potential of a ship.

>t3c's have broken resists
its the same t2 resists as other ships.
>AB speed bonus
and when you stack tons of plates and trimarks their speeds barely break 600m/s
>tackle range bonus
no one actually fits scrams or disruptors to their fleet proteuses, its always tracking computer, sensor damp/tracking disruptor then a prop. the proteus doesn't even get the same AB bonus the legion does.

>wormholes
this is irrelevant to the huge fleets we've been talking about.

>10 times the tracking
its the regular cruiser tracking and regular cruiser tracking bonuses (if the subsystem even gets it)

So first we went from "nah t3c's" when saying that pirate battleships have been taking over as the superior tank alternative to "wow cruiser" because you can't differentiate between a cruiser and a t3c when comparing tank and somehow blowing off the fact that the machariel fits everyone is using today has double the hitpoints easily. The tracking difference means little when you bring other double plated shit to the field that aides tracking immensely like huginns and rapiers.

>as there are no downsides
the new downside is they don't tank enough at all and don't do enough damage for what they're warranted for in this hyper aggressive meta that calls for higher tank because of capital proliferation
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>>169833541

Fair comment, guess I'll just wing it and have fun regardless of whether it goes well or not.

>>169833547
>>169833621

It wasn't just based on that anon. I've asked in game, on reddit and on the official forums too
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>>169832620
>540k ehp
jesus fucking christ
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>>169833685
>m8 when you call a t3c a "cruiser" it clearly under estimates the potential of a ship.

more like I'm trying to point you to the fact that it has different mobility and application to a battleship, so comparing their ehp and dps is inherently retarded

>its the same t2 resists as other ships.

yeah, the same resists faction ships don't have

>and when you stack tons of plates and trimarks their speeds barely break 600m/s

it's going to be significantly faster and lower sig than a bs

>no one actually fits scrams or disruptors

ok I'll tell this to all the proteus pilots I know and get them to change fit

>this is irrelevant to the huge fleets we've been talking about.

the huge fleets you've been talking about

>regular cruiser tracking

is significantly higher than battleship tracking

>don't tank enough

it's situational retard. sometimes they tank more
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kevin
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>>169833978
>more like I'm trying to point you to the fact that it has different mobility and application to a battleship, so comparing their ehp and dps is inherently retarded
No its not retarded, because supers and carriers apply great to ships with little regard for the size. Thats why the meta has shifted upwards (also because pirate BS's are cheap as fuck) When a super can alpha a single t3c off the face of the grid because it has so much alpha and DPS you NEED something that can tank harder and better and the machariel proliferation is the solution to that.

>faction ships don't have
so? this is nonsequitor to how the battleships are in fact replacing t3c doctrines all around. They want bigger better longer range DPS with more tank and pirate battleships solve that call comparatively.

>speed and sig
largely irrelevant in a meta that favors raw alpha. The DPS negated is little when you have 50 sets of fighters and bombers dumping shit on you.

>I'll tell this to a proteus pilot
for all intents and purposes they have OTHER ships for this, the fleet proteuses are more valuable with the cheesed ewar, the disruptor doesn't help in negating enemy damage like a TD or SD will, thats why they choose this instead. If the FC calls for tackles (don't know why he would when he can bring a single HIC) then ok but thats not the trend at all.

>You've been talking about
no you concured when you said "all these t3c's I see all the time"

>significantly higher than BS tracking
when you already have near perfect tracking leading to your near perfect damage application, adding more tracking doesn't yield an equally displaced damage gain. The tracking matters little when you can hold something still with webs and TP's. 10x tracking from a cruiser won't magically do more damage when the machariel has no problem to begin with because the fleet comp is covered.

>its situational
no its DEMANDED that when subcaps want to be on the same grid you NEED that tank.
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>f2p
What the fuck?
Since when?
Also how horribly gimped is it?
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>>169834695
It's irrelevant.
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>laser enthusiast
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>>169834592
>also because pirate BSs are cheap as fuck

this is the only reason desu

>this is nonsequitor

you made a spelling mistake lol you lose. and it's not a non sequitur, pirate battleships will have lower resists than t3s unless you go full autism on the tank

>largely irrelevant in a meta that favors raw alpha

actually it would be made irrelevant by high damage application. alpha is not relevant to what we're talking about

>50 sets of fighters and bombers

I feel like we're talking about different things. you're telling me that noboey flies t3cs anymore, so does this mean you only do pvp in gigantic blobs vs massive super fleets?

>near perfect tracking

this isn't a thing. you have a tracking speed on battleships, and it's significantly lower than on cruisers

>no its DEMANDED that when subcaps want to be on the same grid you NEED that tank.

settle down autist
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>>169834743
Well it is relevant to me.
If the f2p is actually feasible I would love to get back into this shit
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>>169835083

Its basically a trial without a time limit
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>>169835197
So? Restricted to some systems? SP cap?
>>
kevin please put the march changes in the op
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KEVIN GET ON COMMS
NOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW
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>>169835396
The SP cap is by restricting exactly which skills you can level (and/or use if you have them higher from normal training), and it's somewhere around 5 million SP. You also train half as fast.

The skill list you can have as an alpha restricts you, among other things, to only flying ships of your own race, only the t1 and navy versions, and nothing bigger than a cruiser.
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>arazu
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>>169835083
if you're happy with your SP you can just sell skill injectors to buy plex
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where are my stratpaps kevin
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>>169648727
heeb/10
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>tfw terrible at math
>haven't used excel in more than a decade

Time to work out the best way to buy 32 extractors
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>>169839343

and the much anticipated findings
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