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War Mom edition

>NEW PATCH INFORMATION
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1580891-Upcoming-Gameplay-Improvements

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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knights
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>Do [insert thing] with a non-vanguard hero orders

STOP
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APOLLYON DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>169493393
will
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5th for muscle worship
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this game is getting boring and the equipment barely looks different
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>>169493393
Ye
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>>169493393
are nice people
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>>169493426
>Kill 300 soldiers and obtain 350 score in domination [player versus player]


YAMEROOOOOOOOOOO!
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>>169493529
>and obtain 350 score in domination

the easiest order ever
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Why aren't assassins actually glass cannons? they have only slighty less health and in return get fast high damaging attacks
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>>169493471
>warden
>warden
>warden
>warden
>pk
>warden
>warden
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>can cancel your hotpockets sprint as shugoki by pressing the lock-on button
>all these people in pubs who think they need to do the whole thing every time
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>>169493313
>win 10 duels
>lose 2
>feel like shit all day because of the 2 you lost

I might be autistic.
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>>169493471
I'm still having a ton of fun. Haven't prestiged a single character though. Just finished the story on hard, some missions on realistic and did dailies most of the time. Then again I haven't prestiged a single character yet. I wanna keep experimenting on what to use.
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Do you get Steel for finishing a mission on Realistic or a chapter?
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daily reminder that endless pussy and mead await VykangBullz in VALHALAAAAAAAAAAAA

chastefags and otakucks need not apply
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>>169493669
nah dude, that's pretty common. you feel like winning should be the status quo, so when you actually do win it's just "as expected", but when you lose, it sticks with you and makes you feel like garbage

even though if you're playing against people around your skill level, you'd only be winning 50% of the time

it's hard to fix it
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>>169493669
You could have won those duels Anon, if only you had tried harder.
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why are PK's lights literally too fast for 4 characters?
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Dose throw distance affect shreks club whack?
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>>169494002
They're not
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>>169493529
>50 Takedowns in Elimination/Skirmish.
Bonus points if it's Vs AI.
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Could a Lawbringer be comptetitive against higher tier characters?
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>>169493848
>Muh dick MUHFUGGER
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These days I just throw light attacks to stop guardbreaks rather than trying to do gb counter
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>>169493591
Why don't you play one?
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is peacekeeper a tomboy?
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>>169494097
>Out of stamina
>Try to parry
>He feinted
>Tries to guard break anyway
The saddest thing in the world to watch
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>>169494047
this

I also want to know if the warlord carry is affected
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Is afking dominion with bots the best way to farm xp while masturbating or is there a better method?
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>>169494053
yes they are LB,Nobushi,FatJap and Raider swap guard so slowly they can't keep up
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Did we get anything for the servers being down literally all day yesterday? I doubt it with Jewbishit but I can hope.
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>tfw no peacekeeper (male)
Now that's something I'd actually fap to instead of "Shrek fucks Nobushi" and "(You) get pegged by femconq"
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is any of you ATL_Kojima?
Your pk is pretty awful.
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>>169493498
that LB was a samurai actually
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>>169494306
nope not even coins or xp or nothin

Im wondering if the people with championship status will get something
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The things some people say in anger are just straight up comedy gold.

>tfw in the same team as him and lost 0-3
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>>169494325
>Poor little squire boy
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>>169493747
I believe it's the chapter, not entirely sure.

>VykangBullz
I feel like I played 10~ AI 2v2's for my Order with someone with that name.
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>>169493863
Welp, at least I improved a lot. At the start I had a 35% win rate so now it being 70-80% average each day means I improved to an extend.

>>169493941
It is sad because it is true. usually it is going next to someone who i know if fishing for kills at a ledge or messing up some parries on a spammy PK that I know I could have bested if I tried harder. Even if I rematch them after and beat them the second time its still the loss that sticks with me.
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>>169494514
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SOMEONE REDPILL ME ON THE PROPER NOBUSHI PLAYSTYLE AND SOMEONE REPLY THIS TIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169494514
We posting gold now ?
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>>169494293
They're not.
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What music are you dueling to right now?

Working on my Berserker 1on1 with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1s9SmrQRE
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>>169493313
How are keyboard controls in this game?
Really shit or playable?
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So from a couple threads ago, I have these for Lawbringer stats. (Assuming an attack build, because fuck defense.)
YES:
Attack
Revenge mode gain by (all)
Revenge mode stats (all)
Debuff resistance
Stamina Cost reduction
Exhaustion recovery

DON'T GIVE A SHIT:
Revive speed
Execution regen
Defense
Feat CDR

Still confused on a few though:
Revenge mode duration; seems like you can just make it so you're constantly in revenge mode, so this seems pretty useless
Throw distance; I feel like putting points into this will put them out of follow-up range after an exhaustion throw or a shove, but at the same time I know it'll make environmental easier.
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>>169494650
>>169494514
>>169494606
Shame I can't use puu.sh to screenshot Ubisoft games; really cuts back on the shit I capture.
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>>169494687
i only play keyboard and mouse i cant stand using a controller for this game
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>>169494514
>canadian apologizes before raging
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Are warden, warlord, and conqueror top tier or do I just not understand the game well enough yet?
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Buff Raider.
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>>169494729
alt+ enter and then screenshot
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>>169494828
>are
yep.
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>>169494653
they are friendo
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>>169494852
I'll have to try it sometime, I suppose.
Danke.
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>>169493529

>Revive 5 fallen team mates
>Vs AI in dominion
Much more annoying than I thought.
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>>169494840

He's pretty buff though.
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>>169495018
just window borderless and then screenshot the window.
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It's astonishing how many people still fall for this dumb shit
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Possible changes to balance the characters better? For me it's

>take away warden's vortex
>decrease speed of warden's zone
>increase stamina consumption of warden's shoulder bash
>decrease nobushi bleed damage
>increase stamina consumption of nobushi's kicks
>decrease speed of warlord's headbutt
>fix the bug that allows you to make heavies unparryable by unlocking (read: shugoki nerf)
>increase valkyrie's overall damage
>give lawbringer's suplex burger flip move a small amount of damage
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The hand of the lord is on your side, Legatus.
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>Tru3 doesn't stop spoutin that warden is OP.
>Gets destroyed 1-3 by 2 guys.
>I-It doesn't count!
>Quits after first game
>He then gets 2 shitters and duels them 3 times in a row
>I think my point is proven
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>>169494683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxnPM-1CBLQ
Or when I'm just relaxing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ffIJ7ZO4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyE9vFGKogs
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>>169495286
i already lost
i'm uploading the video right now, i played awfully
he opened himself up to be parried so much and i just didn't do it or fucked the parry up cause i was nervous
but at least i didn't lose to a faggot warlord, was actually a decent orochi player
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>>169494917
Buff PK.
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>>169495267
>HE CANT POSSIBLY SEE ME
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>>169495272
>take away warden's vortex

so he can join the slew of characters that have nothing they can do vs shields?
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>>169494690
There was an Anon claiming the normal Attack stat was near useless (it adds at most 5% extra damage), is that true?
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>>169495267
I love that Michael Bay style explosion that goes off as you flip the second guy
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>>169495446
I'm never performing another wiccan ritual again. Teach me to fuck with magic mumbo-jumbo: I must have accidentally cursed you instead! How else would you be bested so easily otherwise?

A thousand apologies, friend, for I have wronged you.
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Who's the current no 1 player? In tournaments? I want to see them skills
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>>169495509
it's more like +15 ~ 20% at max
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>>169495272
Give Lawbringer a viable way to be offensive
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>>169495215
>he
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The game

Is

Fucking

Unplayable

I literally cannot do a single 4v4 without a disconnect happening.

10 times in a fucking row. I can't complete a single match today.
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>>169494683
>Doing some Valk duels
>this plays from playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqct1zMqTE
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>>169495509
I have no idea senpai. I can only imagine if that is the case, though, that defense is even more useless by comparison.
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>>169495725
Sauce
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>Play vs rep 5 kensei as lvl 20 kensei
>beat him in 15 seconds
>he leaves just before execute

5v5 shitters btfo. It's the rep 1-3 players you must fear, because those people play exclusively duel/brawl.
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>>169494690
Law main checking in. Having nearly maxed out throw distance is fucking fantastic for getting environmental kills, there's actually a huge difference.
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>>169494640

hello
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>>169495848
What happens when you're good but you reach rep 5 ? Does it mean you automatically get shit ?
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>>169495848
>because those people play exclusively duel/brawl.

shsssss
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>>169495272
>take away warden's vortex
>decrease speed of warden's zone
>increase stamina consumption of warden's shoulder bash
are you insane

warden's zone gives you a free untechable GB on block. it'd be completely unusable if it was any slower

if you take away the ability to mixup GB and shoulder bash, you'll be able to counter it every time and that part of his kit will become unusable

increasing stamina on his shoulder bash would be a pretty good change though, he definitely shouldn't be able to just spam it
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>>169495509

It depends on the character. Attack on characters like Nobushi and PK are extremely good because Attack increases the bleed damage that they do. Though arguably, Nobushi can also use Stamina Reduction to spam zone attack more and just wipe out groups of 4 without even intending to do that.
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>>169495725

It can be both a he, and a she. So. I used the more common pronoun of he.
What more do you want, want me to call Raider a fuckin xhi or zhe or whatever those cooky crazies have come up with recently?
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>>169496026
Yeah I was curious as to whether stamina or Attack would be preferable on Nobu.
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>>169496095
I identify myself as Legendary
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>>169495987
If you don't play duel/brawl only you're much worse than you think you are. That's the only rule.
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Who's best story husbando? Stone or RAIIIIIDEEEEEEER? The rest don't even compete.
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>>169495272
Just fix the fucking maps and make the game playable online.

Take away all the stupid itemization. It basicly just makes the game more cancer.
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>>169495661
thanks for the chuckle
i'll link you the video after
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>Decide to try watching a for honor stream
>Scottjund is a cunt and i hate him but maybe he's not bad at this game
>Check in
>He's getting destroyed by a berserker

s w e r v e
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>>169496276
This. This game could do with a few less stage hazards on every single map.
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How do you git gud in this game? I can handle bots pretty well, but the players are too unpredictable to me. Should i just memorize every attack pattern?
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>>169495870
Does it put you out of reach for a GB or Light after a shove/throw though? Don't always have an environmental around for cheese.
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Post For Honor memes
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>>169496358
Nice.
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>>169496315
God I love watching good Kenseis play
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>>169496440
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tfw you get a mirror match with someone 3 reps higher than you and you still beat em
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>>169496440
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I'm so tired of being disconected from all matches i get in.
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>>169496440
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>elimination
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>>169496440
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>>169496531
RAIDEEEEEERRRRR
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>someone complaining about warden while playing warlord

my sides
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>>169496552
Because level doesn't mean jack shit. You can be lv10 and beat a rep5 guy easily in duel mode. MM works by avg kdr and w/l, that's all.
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>>169496754
>confirmed too poor to afford a bow
top kek
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>>169495272
>Less instant death stage hazards (some moderate drops that take 20-25% of your health, and some severe ones that take 50-75% of your health should exist)
>Wall spikes should only be near the spawns in dominion mode to help the overwhelmed side throw the offending party into them. None of this "lol I use aoe attack and when you block it your back armor scratches a spike and you die :^)" shit
>item stats increase reduced to like max 5% difference for a full bar to a default one. That or pvp game modes no longer allow item stats, and item stats are only reserved for any potential player versus AI horde game mode.
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How am I supposed to play Conqueror?

Every attack I try to land is just parry fodder. I don't want to spam shield bash/heavy into a wall and shit and all that. That just feels cheesy and like it wasn't the way he was intended to be played
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>>169496613
fuck oath
sick of this fucking shit
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>>169496754
>die like the dog you are
>memetexting
Pretty embarassing tbqh
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>>169496440
Freshly made yesterday
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>>169493669
holy shit there is someone who feels like i do
even if ive got a 75% winrate, any losses i take make me feel like shit and that i should have won
killing my motivation to play after 80 hours
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>>169496754
>meme arrows outside of 4chan
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>>169496440
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>>169496849
Well then tough shit, as the game is now you either shield bash and light side attack in a repeating chain forever or you wait until your enemy tries to guard break you or attack you so that you can counter/ parry them.

Good luck with that though.

I mean half of the conquerors fucking moves are tied to the shield bash. It even gets a "shield bash does damage" feat too, for Gods sake.
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>>169496440
>>
>In Dominion
>Teammate dies in a 2v1 because he doesn't know how to attack from behind
>Starts pinging for me to rez him in the middle of a duel
>Eventually manage to make the other guy run out of stamina and throw him to the ground
>Take the chance to rez him
>As I'm finishing, retard presses respawn button and disappears

ARE

YOU

FUCKING

RETARDED
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>>169496440
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>>169493669
>>169496936
Same here, i usually avoid competitive games because of this. There is no fulfillment and it just leads to frustration.
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>look at the map
>see samurais
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK BROS THIS CANT BE HAPPENING PLEASE WIN SOME MORE WE'RE GETTING OUR SHIT PUSHED IN BY THE FUCKING KNIGHTS AND VIKINGS
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>>169496440
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All of the classes I like are the worst in viability and it's making this shitty ass game frustrating as fuck.
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>>169497209
>Weebs
>Civilized.
Choose one and only one.
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>>169496754
you sound cute, but please stop using meme arrows and talking to retards, you only make yourself look worse
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>>169497070
That was the bad bit, yes.
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can vikangz and tincans agree to taking out the weebs?
they were allowed to live for too long
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>Get killed by Level 3 Lawbringer bot
>Does an execution ive never seen before where he steps on me and plants his poleaxe right into my back like claiming the moon
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>>169497302
post map
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>>169497435
No.

Stop fucking playing this game as if alliances are possible, holy shit you people are delusional.
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I fucking hate getting quests in Elimination PVP...
Everyone is abusing the fucking Revenge Bullshit
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>>169497445
Bots cheat. They can perform emotes and executions that aren't in the game at the moment.

If you look it up on youtube, you can find videos of every emote and execution from pre release, and they include the currently unavailable ones.
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>>16949743
Apologies for the arrows of implication, was not great.
>>169496875
not to excuse the shit, but he was making doge memes about an earlier round.
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How long would I have to AFK to get 1 rep?
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>>169497525
t.weeb

so it's an agreement then
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>>169497732
probably a lot fucking longer than actually playing the game
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>>169497767
t. knight

Every fucking time we try to focus on one faction we get fucked by the other. Stop doing this shit nigger.
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>>169497813
But I'm doing it while I sleep though.
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>>169497813
Yes, but if you are sleeping you can;t be playing the game, so it speeds things up.
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>>169497658
You mongoloid, that's a Lawbringer execution you have to buy.
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>>169497525
>69 posters
>he thinks there are enough of us to form an alliance, let alone influence the faction war single-handedly

lmoae
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>>169497231
Lol it's a casual game mode, so be casual
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>Peacekeeper bot kills you and has a special emote where she just keeps laughing at you over and over
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>>169496440
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>>169497952
it'll probably be enough to flip a tile
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I have a personal code to defend myself if the Knights attack me but to ALWAYS attack the Kangz. Never the knights.
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>>169497774
I don't see what is wrong here, you missed the parry window?
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>>169498097
you also have autism
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What is the exact input to change the kensei up unblockable into a side heavy?
I seem to manage it only randomly and it's so detrimental because it cost me victory half the fucking time.
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>>169498160
the point was the bouncy castle
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>>169498097
That's pretty autismal fampai
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>>169498160
I think it's about how he bounces when he hits the ground. I think it's supposed to be funny, not complaining.
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>>169498160
i'm guessing the point of the webm is either that his corpse bounced off the floor like a goddamn bouncy ball, or the fact that the "CAPTURED" shit obscured the parry indicator, which shouldn't even be a thing
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1-5: Knights
6-0: Vikings
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>>169498204
while the unblockable is coming out just move into left or right guard stance and press heavy attack, and it can't be done too late into the animation
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>roaches and wardens who attack you with top lights even though you're in top guard
>because they know it's lightning fucking fast and there's little you can do to punish it
>and that they know they can interrupt anything you're about to do

fuck off god i hate you faggots
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>>169498301
What the fuck it's exactly what I'm doing and it doesn't come out half the fucking time.
I don't do it too late either.
I know the fault's on me since I see a ton of people do it consistently but where am I fucking it up
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>>169498198
>>169498241
Knights are friends to the Samurai
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>>169495267
Holy fuck, I couldn't see the time bar and I thought this perfectly looped
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>>169498618
Where does soft feinting fall on this list?
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>>169497353

>even bothering trying to use it
>let alone 3 times

why though
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>tfw you parry roaches zone
feels almost as good as parrying pks zone
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>>169498819
>tfw it looks so slow when you're not playing
>Warp speed when playing
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> pick my comfy LB
> enemy team is all warden

LB buffs when
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>>169495267
This is great, but how did the second guy also fall for it? Couldn't he see the kensei go in and get tossed out like yesterdays garbage?
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>>169493313
>the lawbringer and warlord jsut hold their weapons in the air for half a second
>instead of parrying it on reaction, you have to learn the timings autistically

whyyy
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>>169495870
maxing throw distace doesn't make any visible change you know?
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>>169498957

Well, you also have to take into account that webms are lower fps, so it looks a lot slower from that alone.
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>>169498819
>fought a roach earlier with that weird netcode shit where his hits seem to hit in half the frames
>He also managed to parry like 3/4ths of my teammates hits whenever they fought him
[deebly goncerned]
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>>169498957
There's also the added bonus that the indicator glitch didn't happen, so it actually showed the proper direction for the entire animation, instead of literally just the last few frames.
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>>169493669
>>169496936
>>169497287
Maybe you should stop being such tampon hungry pussies.
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to the anon that created the superior brand, _______________ thank you
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>watch streams
>every r5+ with i108 that also plays decently uses 1 of these: orochi, berserker, peacekeeper,warden, warlord, conq or kensei
When will raider be legendary in reality?
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>>169499309
where are the instructions for that sexy ass brand of sacrifice
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>>169498275
>needing to watch the red indicator for parry timing

It's not hard to just do it without it, I parry unblockables all the time while I'm stunned and can't see the indicator
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Stop using Warden/Roach/Pk zone attacks.
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>>169499467
when i get my elite pad i will enter the level 3 hyperbolic chamber and emerge to stream
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>>169498241
I want to put my face between Makoto's powerful legs
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>>169499467
>When will raider be legendary in reality?
light dmg buff
guaranteed side heavy after gb
guaranteed top heavy after wall stun
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>tfw you throw the king roach off a ledge
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>>169499610
I want her to kill me by crushing my skull
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>>169499543
Stop using Revenge gear.
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1-5: Main Raider
6-0: Main Conq
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>>169499689
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>>169499720
be legendary, anaon
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>>169499642
Yeah that'd do it.
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>>169499689
Legendary
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>>169499642
I don't even think he needs that much, honestly. He just needs to be able to change his guard fast enough to keep up with the games quicker attacks.

Just make his guard speed faster and give him the same heavy confirms as everyone else. His damage is fine.
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is anything more fun that bow shotting nerd and maxxing revenge as nobu?

i'm 1v4'ing people all day in dominion getting 25 kills ez, deploying 500 after each game.

you're welcome knights. been playing 15 hours a day past 3 days and i feel i may be solely responsible for knight pushback.
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>>169499642

He needs a 100% guaranteed heavy after kneeing someone in the face after a wall smash. Not much else because his heavies are pretty crazy. And wall smashes aren't overly hard to get given how far he can carry someone
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>it's a lets 4v1 because I'm too shit to 1v1 episode
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How do I git gud at Nobushi?
I feel like I have no confirm attack
even parry doesnt get me a free light attack
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>>169499915
>Maxing revenge.

You mean the standard meta build for every character in the game?
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>>169500194
It's elim you faggot, get real.
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>>169500292
who said anything about elim?
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>>169499776
>give me free wins anon
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>>169493313
>in-game K/D/A in duel modes says 1.5
>Ubisoft website K/D/A duel modes in PvP stats says 3.97

I haven't even AFKd vs bots as far as I can remember. The fuck is up with this?
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Can a ruskie translate this order I got from putin hismelf apparently?
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Guys, femroach, or manroach?
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how come I play very well with the nobushi but when using the warden I do terribly?
It almost feels like you need to have control over more buttons simultaneiously while playing warden, whereas when using the Nobushi I feel at ease with my fingers
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>>169500439
what? you dont remember what you had on that spot?
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>>169500439
5 dm games as an assassin
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>>169499469
seconded, would love to have that but i'm about as creative as mud
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>>169500508
Completely forgot yeah
>>169500526
Thanks. Now I remember why I didn't bother
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>>169499915
what feats are you using with nobu? can't understand if the fire bomb is woth it or not
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Quick guys.

>>169500452
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>>169500268
dash+heavy
cancel top heavy into zone, cancel second zone
dash forward + light
if they suck use kick into light after heavy
the heavy dash attack is the most useful imho
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>>169500506
Been happening to me lately.

I usually main Lawbringer and i was a Conq main on the betas. But now i touch anything that is not the Law and i'm absolute rubbish
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>>169499467
Raider with 108 gear is stupid on defense. Do not underestimate how retarded that hero gets when he has a lot of revenges. It ain't Warlord dumb but it is up there.
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>>169499469
please god tell us how
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>>169499707
>Implying I'm not talking about duels
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>>169500374
>not learning to overcome the obstacles that challenge the manliest character in the game
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>>169495509
My opinion is just make sure that you have enough attack to confirm a kill against a target at 1 bar with a side heavy.
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>>169500506
nobushi has better neutral control than warden does, and against good players (esp. if they play conq or warlord) warden falls off in effectiveness

warden can completely stomp scrubs though so it's pretty fun to play and drink up those tears
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>>169500685
I use that once in awhile as quick jab since its quite quick
but unlike dash attack it doesnt really let you dodge anything with it

but thanks I will try it out
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>>169499006
That's what I mean, the kensei was stupid enough to challenge the law right at a ledge, but the berserker was straight up retarded.
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>>169500652
firebomb is good for zoning out cap points
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>>169500830
>manliest character
>not the most over compensating
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>>169500452
manroach

dont be gay
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>>169499543
>complaining about warden zone when its punishable on block by GB
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>>169499469
I would assume diamond background with black diamond in the middle, two red lines, and one red diamond at the top with a black spearhead.
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>>169500997
manroach it is
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Ad mortiem inimicus!
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>>169500452
Femroach, don't be a fag.
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What's the go to confirm after a parry for Kensei? I can't seem to land a GB in time, too far away.
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>>169493313
IT'S FUCKING CONFIRMED

PEACEKEEPERS SPAMMING LIGHT ATTACKS ARE BASICALLY FASTER THAN LAWBRINGER, RAIDER, OR SHUGOKI CAN CHANGE GUARD DIRECTIONS

This guy went and actually checked frame by frame data to see how fast response time was for guard direction change is for those characters. With the response time of P2P, guard direction change speed, and PK attack speed, lawbringer, raider, and shugoki have exactly ONE (1) (UNO) (UNUM) frame to react to the light attack spam from PK.

You can read about it further here Sorry for reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/5w9w9a/is_it_really_impossible_to_block_a_pks_light/
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>>169500972
>over compensating
>not just the most testosterone filled, well sculpted, balls to the wall manliest savage this side of Vikinghood
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>>169501225
top light if they're far
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>>169501259
But we already knew this
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>>169494683
>Lawbringer
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju5gRw4tqYk
I'll be honest, most of the music I listen to while playing is either rap or powermetal.
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>>169501339
Peacekeeper shitters would spam the response of "you just need to pay attention" "they can't really do it" "it's all in the animation, not the actual guard direction"

This is solid fucking proof they are broken.
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>>169501259
It's not OP, it's a feature of the game
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>all the cheesy cunt heroes get decapitations with some cool guys getting some
>nothing for /ourguys/ raider & lawbringer

fuck nigga
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>>169501192
too late
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>>169501491
>kensei is a cheesy cunt hero
no
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>>169501361
I always love the stupid head bob.
>Hey, whats up son?
>This right here? This is my horse
>You got a problem with it?
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>>169501428
>listening to peaceshitters in the first place
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>>169501010
You're right. The others are bullshit though, friend
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>>169501267
>raider
>not just free wins in any case because their kit is so shit
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>>169501016
Diamond background? Which one
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>>169501491
>impaler

Literally the best execution in the game
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>>169501491
You don't need decapitations for the LAW, his executions are fine as it is.
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>>169498819
>Orochi does zone attack
>Indicator points left
>I parry left
>it actually goes right and it hits me

Does anyone else get that?
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I know I'm going to sound like a huge bitch, but I think I'm going to stop and wait until they unfuck the warden/peacekeeper for 1v1 and revenge gear for 4v4
The game is just no fun for me in this state, it's more frustrating than anything.

Do you think they'll take a long time to at least nerf revenge?
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>>169501709
>not learning how to play mindgames
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>>169501259
Someone post that guard break direction time for each class image.
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>>169501783
Yes, it's a known bug right now. Fixed next update probably
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>>169501783
All the time, its the most fucking annoying thing
>>
Don't you people just fucking love how so many characters have infinite combo chains where the only thing you can do is fucking try to guess what he's going to go for or get fucked?
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>>169501259
>With the response time of P2P, guard direction change speed, and PK attack speed, lawbringer, raider, and shugoki have exactly ONE (1) (UNO) (UNUM) frame to react to the light attack spam from PK.
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>>169501907
>Yes, it's a known bug right now
oh. right
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>>169501809
>implying mind games are even a thing when raider's moveset is so shit that it doesnt matter at all

must be nice fighting shitters all day
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>>169501945
No one has an infinite in this game, you're just bad and don't know the counter.
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>>169502037
>mindgames isn't a thing because of bad kit

Are you bad or just really retarded?
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>>169502037
maybe i just cant let go of the dream, anon...
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>>169495272
Make Revenge give a lot of stam cost reduction instead of unlimited stam
Or remove + revenge on defense and + revenge on damage DESU
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>>169502215
nah you're retarded

raider is just shit m8 free wins for me
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>getting parried is a free gb into a free heavy, even top heavy when wall is nearby

This is a huge glaring flaw imo
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>>169501534
>with some cool guys getting some

read carefully my speedreading friend

>>169501739
let me chop a bitch's head off with the AXE on my POLEAXE ccome on ubi

>>169501773
yeah yeah whatever it'd just be nice ok he has the whole executioner motif with his giant ass and giant pollaxe
>>
Do I get a different daily order even when one of them was not completed?
>Playing non vanguards aka. non Kenseis
>>
>>169501259
>>169501339
doesn't prove anything
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>>169502442
Fair enough
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>>169502395
>getting parried is the problem
No. you shouldn't get punished for pulling off a parry. it's GB on certain characters that need to reworked with the parry gb combo
>>
When you parry stuff with kensei what is your follow-up? How do you punish people? Top light?
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>>169502471
yes

you keep your equipped "old" orders from previous order cycles but if you unequip them before finishing them, they are deleted
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>>169502540
Parry > guard break > throw into wall > overhead heavy

Parry > guardbreak > overhead light >overhead unblockable heavy (cancel this) >side heavy
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>>169502540
Probably a light attack in case they are out of GB range which is mostly the case
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>>169502540
top light or gb top heavy

i can't remember if parrying confirms a gb but i want to say it does

for maximum memery, parry -> gb -> shove into wall -> top heavy
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>>169502671
Why not do an overhead heavy instead of a light? It goes through in time
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>Valkyrie blatantly tries to headbutt you off a ledge, but you sidestep and throw her off instead
>gets really fucking mad and calls you a fag for ringing her out

lmao
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>>169502481
found the peacekeeper shitter.

THEY WILL TRY TO DEFEND THIS IN ANY WAY
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>>169502681
that's the kind of autism I can get behind
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>>169502681
>you guys are alright
>Don't go to shredertown tomorrow
made me laugh
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>>169499309
don't leave me hanging bruh where you get that brand from, that's the best one i've seen so far by far
>>
What is this new meme of PK lights being impossible to react to? Does controller have input lag? I play on mouse and can consistently block every PK attack on reaction except the zone attack which you can just sit right for.
>>
>>169502925
What class do you play?
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>>169502925
see >>169501259
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>>169502925
>I fight shit peacekeepers
>therefore all peacekeepers are easy
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>>169502925
it's children crying because they keep losing, ignore them
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>>169500936
>firebomb is good for zoning out cap points
Archer barrage arguably does that better and can actually kill people
>>
>>169502671
>>169502721
Guard break > side heavy does more damage than a guard break > top heavy
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>>169502925
>I play on mouse and can consistently block every PK attack on reaction except the zone attack which you can just sit right for.
depends on the class you're playing

Nobushi, Raider, Lawbringer and Shugoki have slower guard switch making the 2nd hit in the chain stupid hard to block.
>>
>>169503010
Dumb that the video only tests with one character and only a controller, I am hesitant to believe it's broken until I see more evidence. Works fine for me so as far as I'm concerned there is no problem.

>>169502994
Warden
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What are the heros with the coolest high rep armor?
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>>169496506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20cAVPuFqpM&feature=youtu.be
the video finally finished uploading
i warn you though, i played it abysmally
does anyone have any tips on how to deal with nerves?
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>>169494640
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>>169503310
>warden
Theres 4 classes that cannot react in time. Your class is not one of them.
>>
>>169502681
>Hard to type with 3 fingers
>>
>tfw there is no way i can adjust the deadzones on my controller
I hope there is a way to do so, i feel like for a good quarter to half of the movement it doesnt register anything
>>
>>169495812
XBO Killer Instinct soundtrack is phenomenal
>>
>>169503310
Warden doesn't have the issue, only characters with slower block time do. It's still a tight timing even for warden, but not one frame.
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>opponent turns character into a nigger
>always rage quits when losing

why are niggers only good at running?
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>>169503310
Warden has a guard direction change of 6. No fucking shit you can block PK light spam sherlock. PK can beat out raider, lawbringer, and shugoki with only 1 frame for them to react.

Read the fucking reddit post.
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>>169503079
How good or bad they are has no bearing on how fast an attack is... skillful players don't unlock attacks with less frames anon
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>>169502537
>shouldn't get punished for parrying
I did not imply that. Just saying simple light attack shouldn't be punishable with one less bar of health - especially when parrying isn't even that hard to pull off.

Especially considering how rewarding a defensive playstyle is at the moment in the frist place
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Which platform has more players?
>>
Leavers need their own matchmaking pool already.
>>
>>169502671
>>169502680
>>169502721
Parry always pushes them away so I can't gb. So dash light or dash gb?
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>>169500406
Does anyone have a clue?
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So how would you rework the game to not favor so much the turtle-fest that it is right now?
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Who should I join? Knights, Samurai or Vikings?
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>>169503497
You expected anything else from them?
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Did Ubi fix the NAT errors yet
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>>169501259
>All those self-confessed PK mains that claim to never spam lights.
>>
how can i practice combos against a mindless immortal ai that will not attack back or block
>>
>>169503902
bot level 0
>>
>>169503902
Bot practice level 0
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>>169503806
Knights are all reddit memers or /pol/tards trying to push their political agenda into the game.
Samurai are all weeaboos with unironic Naruto emblems and edgelords.
Vikings are all dudebro wannabes and ERPers.

Choose your cancer.
>>
>Order: get an 8-man killing spree in skirmish vs AI without dying
>kill 15 people then die to a tomohawk throw in the last few seconds
>order not complete
what the fuck
am I seriously expected to kill 8 bots then just camp out?
>>
>>169503902
i meant where
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>>169503806
Whoever the fuck you want. Without an in-game faction chat only colour and crest frame changes
>>
>>169501259

>tru3ta1ent immediately saying "its not true, i have reacted to it so it's not true and whatever you linked is wrong"
>tru3ta1ent apparently sitting on a modified version of the game that has changed frame data from the rest of the world or he's talking out of his ass

"high level duels!!" everybody.
>>
>>169503902
You don't, use bot level 1.

Bot level 1 is still pretty shit though, so instead you can set up a custom match. 1v1, 99 rounds, bot level 3. Then you can receive the real dicking.
>>
>>169503806
Doesn't matter, you can play all classes

Knights have the lowest pop I think
>>
>>169504006
Are you sure you actually got 15 kills rather than just 15 takedowns?
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>>169502332
nothing wrong with baseline revenge
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Can we open trapdoors on the Overwatch map? If so, where the fuck is the switch?
>>
>>169503902
dont listen to this retard >>169504118

go to how to play, duel practice, bot level 0-3
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>>169504073
good guess!
>>
>>169501259
just block it shitter
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>>169501907
whos to say its a bug?
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>>169504159
I thought it happened automatically after a period of time?
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>>169504118
i need a practice dummy basically
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>>169496440
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>>169504267
>1 frame to react if they change attack direction
>just block it :^)
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>>169503121
firebomb detours people where as barrage is an active

you'd be surprised how retarded people are right now and wont walk into it
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If you parry someone and they are too far away for a guardbreak, what do?
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>tfw orochi(female) wants to suck your dick but you have to burn her for all her heresy
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>>169504128
Ooooohhhhhhhh
those aren't the same
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>>169504291
It might, I was hoping it was like the cages you drop on the other map
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>>169503947
>>169503964
>>169504231
thanks fampais
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>>169504073
he's not wrong, I react to it all the time too
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>>169501259
Lights do fuck all Damage anyway
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>>169503425
4 classes that cannot, 4 classes where it is possible but incredibly difficult, and 4 classes where it is feasibly doable. >>169503310 Still should not have a problem, I'd just like to make the distinction.
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>>169498398
Those guys are easy. Just parry into "AD MORTEM IMMICUS!"

It's the ones who stay in top light who just hit you with the zone attack that are cancer. Either you stay top and expose yourself to the zone, or you guard zone and expose yourself to the top light.
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>>169504329
>my old man reflexes are too slow

shouldn't you have a family by now instead of posting on a japanese cartoon website?
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>>169504603
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>>169504343
I really love the fire hazards. I wish the game had more environmental effects that weren't just instant death.

>>169501259
Honestly I play Nobushi who is affected by this too, but I'd be willing to accept this if they'd fix that fucking Area Attack bug where it shows the guard coming from a different direction for a second, jesus christ. THAT'S the real gayest shit.
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Every character should have the same block timing/guard swap timing, that is dumb
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>>169504342
If they're too far away because you have a long weapon, then a top light should work.

If they're too far away because they have a long weapon, then there's not much you can do except rush forward to close the distance.
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>>169504702
they do its only when you spam the guard the penalty is different
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>>169504281
The devs who have literally confirmed its a bug and that it is going to be fixed next update?
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>>169501259
Good shit.
Now I'll just spam lights.
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Fix the fucking gear score
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>>169499469
>>169500648
>>169500797
>>169501728
>>169502921
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>>169504801
I dont suppose you have any proof?
Ive seen ais use the tech im pretty sure its there on purpose
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You know, as a fighting game player, the community for this game is so fucking casual it's unreal. Not even smash players are this retarded and that's saying something.

This game PANDERS to casuals and they still can't fucking play it without complaining.
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>>169504771
>because you have a long weapon

As a Nobushi at least this doesnt matter, only your enemy's weapon. Simply move toward them as you grab them and it will work on 80% of the cast.
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>>169501259
isn't pk zone even faster?

like as in literally unblockable if you aren't already blocking right as those 4?
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>>169504561
Top is reactable though, just sit the zone and react the top. Also zone is hugely punishable since you get a free grab from blocking it. Do it a couple times and they will stop throwing it out as much. Also it is reactable though it's a lot harder than reacting to the top. Sounds like a gitgud problem to me anyways.
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>>169504693
Fire is great, and the fucking geysers are the best environmental hazard in the game. They're easy to utilize for a bit of damage, but if you have decent timing and situational awareness, you can use them to land an instant kill.
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>>169504904
yeah fuck being stuck at 108 i want more
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>>169505004
No you can block pks zone if you arent already blocking right but its only a 1 frame leway
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>>169501259
...I've had all those classes parry my light combos you idiot
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>>169505004
18 frames @60fps and if she bugs the indicator you have like 10 frames to react at most
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Is there a way to afk farm by yourself?
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>>169504971
>mfw i had someone unironically tell me lawbringer is overpowered the other day
>ask why
>he just spams shove into gb
>you know you can tech that right
>"no you cant ive tried"
>my continued face

these people are gonna keep LB shit tier
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>>169504909
Thank you, you god among men.
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>>169501259
This is completely wrong.
The frames to switch block is the same for every character. (8 frames on pc and 4 on console)
Its only when you spam the block the character penalty comes in.
Moral of the story is dont try to guess the attack and just react shitter
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>>169501783
Any class can do this by leading with the heavy for a split second before you press the light for the zone attack. It's like a mini feint, if you sit top on warden and do it, it flashes top for a second because you are basically cancelling a heavy into a zone attack.
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>>169501809

poor benny, he did not deserve having to go through surgery
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>>169505126
how much is that in milliseconds?
a sixth of a second
thats what... 160ms?
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>>169505118
5 frames my bad
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>30+ Years of video game history to learn from
>old and bigass company with lots of experience and money
>year 2017
>release for honor
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So how does one play the law?

So far I've been doing these things, with mild, but slow, success. Of course, I've been facing shitters, though.

Parry>guard break>light

Parry>guard break>throw into wall>top heavy
Would a side heavy be better? Most of the time my top heavies, land, but occasionally they don't.

Shove>guard break>throw into wall>heavy
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>>169501783
its not a bug
its not new
its called kara-cancel
and its not going to get fixed
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>>169503979

>Vikings are all dudebro wannabes and ERPers.

couldn't make up something better than this? lmoa
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>>169504971
I like how they call everything "spam".
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>>169505513
No its 300 milliseconds but thats without the added time it takes to switch stance which is 266 milliseconds
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>>169495672
top light fake outs with top heavy feints
side feints into top light, mix up by going into the opposite side with the light after the feint
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>>169505647
t. pk main
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>>169505513
i think it's 16.6 ms per frame - 100ms build in lag
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>>169505616
side heavy confirms from grab
top heavy wont connect if youre too close to the wall
the farther you are from the wall the more time you have for the next attack to confirm
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>>169505336
right but if you switch your block and
1. their initial attack didn't connect/was out of range
2. they feinted, and switch their attack direction
3. you didn't guard the first attack in time and get hit

you're now trapped in a combo of attacks you can't guard against because you're under the guard penalty

you can say "don't get hit" but you can use the same argument for warden's vortex and at least THAT you can roll out of
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Servers still fucked like they were last night or
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>>169505823
t. someone who played a fighting game before

>>169505725
>No its 300 milliseconds
60fps not 30
266 is plenty of time for anyone, no one would complain
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>Play Law
>Elimination
>Face of against roach first round
>Roach runs away and stands with back to water
>Just Law Train it over the edge
>Host left bullshit
Why would you even try to edge play if you cant handle getting flipped?
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>>169495272
In short: remove warden from the game because I can't tech him.

Nigga, you stupid.
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>>169506009
>t. someone who played a fighting game before
Yeah even sonic fox agrees pk's zone bullshit is unreactable but whatever XD
I'm sure a random shitter from /vg/ who mains pk knows better
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>>169506032
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>start maining warden since open beta because I like the simple, but effective playstyle and the sweet aethstetic
>community thinks I'm a fag and hates my guts and thinks I'm OP

I just wanted to be a knight :/
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>>169505525
sounds like most games nowadays
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>>169506168
>XD
>>>/reddit/
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>>169505647
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>>169506168
i'm saying that its not 266ms.
read my post again, and the one before it.
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>>169506246
U triggered, brah? lol
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>>169505945
1. if their initial attack didnt connect then youll have plenty of time to switch to the next attack the penalty is only for when you switch the stance before the stance is completely finished.
2.If they feinted and you fell for the feint then i dont see the problem with you getting hit.
3.this situation is not effected by the character specific guard change you just have to make sure you block in the right direction, if you mess up you deserve to be hit.
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>>169505852
Oh, that makes sense. So if I'm close to the wall, then I should do a side heavy, as it takes a less amount of time, and if I'm farther away, a top heavy will connect?
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any conq players here. pitch your class for me if you'd like
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>>169505616
You can side heavy from a guard break
Shove after a block is extremely useful to slow the fast classes down as its always confirmed.

Also in 4v4s you are probably the best killer of revenge spammers due to the long arm, just repeatedly longarm them for one of the best CCs, easy as shit to dodge 1v1 however.
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>>169495272
Holy fuck learn to play the game you retard
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>>169506340
you need to be 18 to post here
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>>169506365
yes
travel time of the guy before he hits the wall gives you more time for an attack, if he hits it right away you cant do slow onse
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>>169505647
You don't get to name a glitch something and magically make it not a glitch.

Fag.
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>>169506009
No dumbass frame rate doesnt effect how fast the move is.
And its 300 minus 266 meaning you have 34 milliseconds to react and switch from one stance to the other.
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So, I guess the servers are fixed now, right? Did they give an explanation for the fuckup?
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>Fighting a viking nigger
>he's shit
>all he tries to do is drain your stamina then throw you on the ground to keep you perma-exhausted
>win the 1v1 (obviously because he's hot garbage)
>starts talking to himself at the end of the match
>"wow cheese is fun"
>"No it's not"
>yes it is"
>"wow so fun cheese"

Did I break him?
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Why is it always wardens and orochis who cry the hardest?

Rhetorical question
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PSA for fellow kensei mains: The fast top heavy after a dash attack only works if you dash right.
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>>169506573
He's not wrong, though. It's been used in fighting games for ages, and casual players are just upset by it.
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Vortex Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Roll Out of It Like Nigga Double Tap A Haha
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>>169506573
i didn't name it
it existed for like 10 years already.

>>169506576
>No dumbass frame rate doesnt effect how fast the move is.
>frame data does not rely on a framerate
what am i reading
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>>169506424
>spoonfeed me tips because I'm a lazy cunt

Fuck you faggot, do you own research
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>>169501259

>Peacekeeper's light attacks are too fast to block
>Let's stay close to her and let her hit me tho
Don't be dumb. Use her weakness which is her basically non-existent range. Get away from her whenever you are close to her and are done with your attacks
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>>169499524
>Warlord attacks you
>you go to parry
>Warlord pauses midswing wondering if he left the oven on, your parry whiffs, swings starts up again and hits you.
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>>169506745
i'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing, but what argument is there for not fixing it? would you say it's beneficial or adds anything?
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>>169506629
Warden and orochi are the only characters I play, and the only people I see whining are my opponents who 90% of the time bitch about "muh vortex" "muh charge spam" "unreactable attacks" "cheese dodge attacks" and all that other shit.
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>>169506576
>And its 300 minus 266
the fuck are you smoking nigger
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>weebs
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>>169506874
This, I don't have a hard time with PK on anything except lawman, and that's just because he's shit, not because she's good.

All vanguards fucking ruin her bad if you aren't terrible.
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>>169506745
>>169506783
>casuals LITERALLY think for honor is a fighting game

maximum lel
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>>169498618
Delete This
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>>169506192
>I can beat bad players, so I'm good
rly makes dem neuronz fire in ur synapzeis
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>>169507001
oh fucking hell, this is pure gold

where the fuck are you cunts that were talking shit a few days ago?
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KILL THE WEEBS
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Why do shitters always fall for the vortex?
It's the only thing I do the whole fight and they still can't react to it.
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Any advice for getting good? I'm pretty magnificently terrible at this game and I'm looking to improve in just about any way.
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>*gently headbutts u from behind*

baa! >:3
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>>169506959
the argument for not fixing it is the way the game is made
you would have to add another button specifically for the zone attack
or you would have to make it so you have to press both buttons on a same frame couple of frames (making it impossible to use for 90% of playerbase)
there is no fix
>>
is there some tournament going on today?
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>That one game where you fight an orochi who can parries everything and none of your block work
Love me some p2p
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>>169500406
MY LITTLE PEACEKEEPER CANT BE THIS CUTE
>>
is there any way to use the emblem on your character without the shield border?
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>>169506783
If you make the game run at 1 million frames a second its not going to make the moves any slower.
The frame rate of the game is completely irrelevant the move still takes the same amount of time, the frame rate is just a way of measuring it. on 60 frames 60 frames is one second on 30 frames 30 frames is one second
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>>169506745
>>169506783
It's not a cancel, it's not like this is sf4 or some shit.

It's a glitched indicator because of how the game reads inputs. A CANCEL is something that raider can do. Traditional fierce canceling or whatever doesn't really properly exist in this game.

Again, you don't get to call what PK does a kara-cancel.
Warden feinting into a zone? sure, why the fuck not.
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update lads
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>>169507001
>>169507092
I hope all """"knights"""" that whined a couple days ago, switched to weebs, and will now suffer
>>
>Finish knight chapter on realistic after finishing the whole story on hard
>All you get is a shitty engraving. The rest are observable and breakable rewards.

I don't feel like finishing on realistic is this shit is all you get. Might as well make an unlock run on easy.
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>>169507207
No, someone slowed it down and you are actually canceling the light attack INTO the zone attack during startup.

It's actually a kara cancel.
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>>169507053
you tell them girl
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>>169507129
putting it on its own button isn't that bad though, is it? L1 and L2 aren't really important to begin with. i'd much rather have zone attack and guardbreak bound there, while square can be for quickchat for shitposting purposes i guess
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>>169507092
It's literally always the knights and vikings that talk shit
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>>169507114
Pick a class
Fight bot to learn basics
Play the game
???
Get good
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>>169503792
Make stamina run out slower, heavies drain stamina when blocked, stamina regen faster, iframes of slow classes a bit faster reward riskier offensive behavior
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>>169507295
HEY WEEBS WHERE WAS ALL THAT GOOD SHIT YOU WERE TALKING A FEW DAYS AGO?
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>>169507207
its not a bug just play against level 3 ai pk and the bot will do the indicator "glitches"
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>>169507207
no
it's a cancel
you are literally starting a heavy attack and CANCELING IT by finishing the input for a zone attack which CANCELS your heavy attack, you can literally SEE the heavy attack animation before it is canceled, if you input a move that starts to come out and make another input that prevents it from finishing or makes something else come out that's a CANCEL, you fucking retard
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>>169495848
Yeah. It's stunning how big of an ego somebody can get on higher reps. Today i was playing against a rep 5 kensei in Dominion. He just mumbled something like "number 1", killed my friend, then i killed him and he just quit the match. I guess he thought he was some hot shit or something, and we weren't worthy of kicking his ass?

What a fuckin' clown.
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>>169507323
You get ornaments for some heroes.
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>>169507121
I hope the finished drawing of this gets posted soon
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>>169507207
it's exactly the same thing as a traditional kara cancel you big dumb baby
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>>169493313
Post your mains, no matter what they are.
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>>169507323
You get 4000 steel for finishing the whole thing on Realistic. This is not counting the additional 2000 for Normal and 3000 for Hard.
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>>169507121
i must _hug_ you
>>
so focus on the japs?
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>>169506996
the zone attack is 300 milliseconds but it takes 266 milliseconds to switch guard so 300 minus 266 if you want to block the zone on reaction.
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>>169507197
>The frame rate of the game is completely irrelevant
a 30f move on 60fps is half a second
a 30f move on 30fps is a second
to talk about frame data consistently you have to define the standard
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>>169507373
weebs on suicide watch
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>>169504479

Except that you can't, because what that link is refering to is Shugoki/Raider/Lawbringer/Conqueror literally being too slow to do anything.
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>>169507493
That sounds a bit better. Not much, but a bit. We'll see how desperate I'll end up being for some steel.
>>
Reminder to implement this into your PvP playlist beause our guy MoS made a song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XS0Nynzb2E
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>>169507663
fucking this
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>>169507691
Except that you can, because that link is wrong and full of misinformation, koreans are fucking retarded. Every character has the same exact guard speed unless you are spamming it.
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>>169494687
Arguably better than controller in some areas.
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>>169507207
why do people who never played fighting games in their lives refuse to listen to people who actually fucking understand a thing
>>
Why is this community so salty?
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>>169507394
>get into match as rep 1 law
>almost exclusively play law in duels
>enemy is a rep 8 orochi
>know exactly where this is going
>cliff him first round
>starts complaining about muh honor muh cliffs
>completely embarrass him next round, block and parry everything he does, interrupt moves with top light
>bitching more that im cheating
>shove gb spam round 3
>calls me a hacker starts ALL CAPSING AS HARD AS POSSIBLE about how im a fucking nigger and other shit
>quits match right as i execute him

i can see why all the dark souls players are here now, its a fucking untapped salt mine of ubishitters
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>>169507723
I was actually kind of disappointed in this one.
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>>169507331
well, see if that happens.
they will most likely just tighten the window a little bit. i dont believe they are going to rework anything.
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>>169507663
god you're an idiot
the frame rate of the game does not literally slow down the animation of a move it just makes the frames look smoother or less smooth.
PKs zone attack is 18 frames on pc and 9 frames on console but its out of different amounts of frames
18/60 9/30 its the same time
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>>169493467
>When she's angry she takes a shit through the anus on her forehead
These fetishes are getting out of hand
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>>169507883

His MGSV one was good but otherwise I never heard anything I would listen to again
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>>169507869
I'm salty because of all the fucking retards who don't understand how the game works and want everything to be nerfed and the collective community whines so much that every character will probably be impotent and useless by the end of the year and there will be no interesting gameplay left
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>>169507772

.. Except they don't. You are fully aware that there are certain parts of the guard-switch animation that your block doesn't count in that direction, right? If not, then feel free to provide proof. Burden of proof is on you here, since there's far more sources proving you otherwise.

>Koreans are fucking retarded

They break down every game they play down to the fractions of milliseconds to calculate how they can become big in Korea and make bank. They are weaponized autism when it comes to knacking down the numbers.
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>>169507973
There are a lot I like and listen to occasionally, but the For Honor one isn't one of them.
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They should hang the idiot that decided to make this game p2p.
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Is AFK farming bannable?
>>
Why does Nobushi's hidden stance never work when I want it to
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>>169507460
I call him edgebringer
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>>169507460
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They better increase the amount of genericsymbols for the emblem editor.

Or better yet, add stretch x/y and shear options to the existing ones instead of simple resize.
>>
I'm a kensei main looking to try out something new; should I learn valkyrie or shugoki next?
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>>169508115
you cant cancel the character specific block penalty with hidden stance.
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>>169507948
just fucking say how fast the attack is in milliseconds
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>>169508094
>ubisoft
>monitoring anything
Pick one
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>>169504006
>every time I throw someone off an ally pokes them
>it gives me only an assist
>ally always gets the kill without fail
FUCK THIS QUEST
FUCK ANY QUEST THAT CAN BE INTERRUPTED BY ALLIES
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>>169508064
thats the way fighting games are

stop talking like this was supposed to be some fps game

it might be a problem in 4v4 but 2v2 and 1v1 is fine
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>>169493467
bow down
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>>169507460
r8
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>>169501259
Everyone replying to this guy is retarded.
The point of the video isn't block timing, because in the video the shugoki only takes 9 frames to switch stance. Which is the standard time it takes everyone to change stance for the first stance change. The reason the attacks are nearly unblockable is because there is a 14 frame input delay.

FOURTEEN FRAME INPUT DELAY WTF.
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>>169507335
you clearly weren't here when we (knights) were surrounded
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>>169508217
>character specific block penalty
the what now?
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>>169508232
9 divided by 30 =.3=====300 milliseconds
18 divided by 60 =.3=====300 milliseconds
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Jesus christ I fucking love this game
There are twelve classes but you can only play ONE
If you try to actually learn a new class you will just get fucking raped repeatedly by players with tons of fucking experience on their main. Maybe you could have handled them on YOUR main, but you're utterly fucked on your brand new class.
Great game.
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>>169508315
This symbol on helms always makes me think of anusface giants from Dark Souls.
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So shugoki's guard break can break through a lawbringer long arm flip when the pole is already fucking stabbing him?
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>>169501259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmFI_67czp8
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>>169508064
>lets add in another connection that quadruple increases input delay
1->2->1
1->Server->2->Server->1
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Leave the Samurai alone
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>>169505336
M8, in the video, the shugoki takes 9 frames to change block stance. I.E its the standard first stance change without penalty. There is a 14 frame input delay according to that video.
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>>169508434
if the Shugoki tanked the hit with his passive armor, yes.
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>>169507460
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Real quik does Nobushi get anything off a parry? I feel like I mash gb and I can't get anything
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>>169508275
>2v2 is fine
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>>169508404
that is more than enough time to react, so it cant be right
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>>169508409
I play a lot of different characters and have a consistent 65% win rate. Get good my mans.
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>work as a blacksmith
>could probably craft the Warden stuff
>the boss would notice the materials being gone and i'd get fired
>but could make Warden stuff though

i want to do silly things in a warden cosplay, but my boss won't let me.
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>>169508236
Weren't people complaining that they were banning a lot of people, tho?

Even a dude that didn't buy the game got banned.
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>>169507795
it's pretty fucking amusing and sad at the same time. Smash players are more intelligent than this
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>>169508409
Such is the way in fighting games.

They should really implement player lobbies or such. Then people could have a nice, open space to practice with their sub-classes.
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>>169508506
I thought that the flip ignores armor?

I'm not talking about the impaling charge
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>>169508172
>Fendrel helm with that engraving
I'm in love

But you should use lederic arms tbqh, don't sacrifice fashion just so you have a full set.
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>>169508340
wrong.
there is a system in the game that penalizes characters for canceling a guard change. some characters have a larger penalty than others but simply changing your guard is 8 frames with all characters (out of 60 frames)
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>>169508519
>That face in the chest.
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>>169508625
The only thing that ignores shugoki's passive armor is guard break.
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Is there anyway to see recent players in Uplay like on Steam so I can add people?
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Does anyone else have problems with this shit ALL THE TIME?

I mean like 1/3-1/2 of games. Freezing during the match, or disconnect, or failing to enter because of an undefined "error", or never getting rewards for a match at all?

I have a good wired connection and a tower that can run it easily on ultra, so I can't imagine what I'm doing wrong.
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Update
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>>169508698
Thats literally what I said.
> Which is the standard time it takes everyone to change stance for the first stance change.
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>>169508493
>gamepads
>consoles
yea, you didn't know?
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>>169508610
>>169508409
>>169508602
A good way I've noticed to start a new character is to pick the character and go to train vs lv.1 bot.

Training versus that bot, you better experiment what are your options from guard, parry, GB and GB wall throw at the very least. Character specific staggers also apply for option experimentation.
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>>169508824
time to get back all the land while the two are bickering
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>>169508579
A good friend of mine is training to become a blacksmith immediately, I told him he was stupid. But how is it?
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>>169508547
Jesus christ man did you even read my posts?
Stance change for every character is 8 frames=266 milliseconds (out of 60)
Therefore you only have 34 milliseconds to react
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>>169508824
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>>169508778
>You pressed the 'A' button, deleting system32 and igniting your tiwer. Thank you for playing.
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>>169508579
>blacksmith
I want to pick that up as a hobby, how would you reccommend starting?
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Is this game worth it?

I wasn't impressed with the beta, and will be waiting until it's at a $20 price point.
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>>169508710
>"OOOO IM CUMMING"
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Christ, I just got so fucking mad I snapped my goddamn keyboard.
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>>169507460
>Reclaim rightful clay
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>>169508460
>>169508340
>>169506874
>>169505336
>>169505119
>>169505004
>>169504831
>>169504267
>>169504073

Pretty sure it's common knowledge about the 8 frames for ONE direction change for every class, but for some fuck all reason the slower classes get A FUCK TON of delay for changing consecutive directions.

So allow me to say it in this way
If you are guarding left, and they attack right, you will have 8 seconds same guard as everyone else. If they are to change directions and attack top RIGHT after attacking right, heavy classes get a MASSIVE delay changing to top. Lighter classes such as PK, warden, orochi, etc DO NOT get this delay.

Your argument "every class has the same" only work if they attack from 1 ONE new direction. This does not apply if they continuously change directions.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/5vzo5l/block_speed_guard_switch_time_confusion_and_why/
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>>169508924
My bad 133 milliseconds so thats 300 minus 133 which is 167 milliseconds
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>>169509052
then how'd you post this?

checkmate, athiest
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>>169507092
Rubberbanding, I imagine. That, or maybe a ton of knights threw down their crosses and went weeb, dragging Weeb down.

Or, it's a META RUSE, because then they can board sweep as the Stage ends and get massive rewards due to the deployment bonuses from losing.
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>>169507121
>tfw no valkutie to start a family with
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Do people usually AFK farm on VS AI or VS Players?

Also, it's usually Dominion, right?
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>>169507872
I get salt at least 50% of my matches, and 25% of those will bitch before the match even starts because they see me pick Nobushi.
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>>169508478
>weebs incredibly arrogant when they thought they had a chance at taking our stronghold
>now crying that we're even remotely close to theirs
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>>169509082
>source: reddit
but anyway, why the fuck would a system like that be in the game even
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>>169509190
VS AI without matchmaking of course
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>>169508519
>visible mouth on the guard plate
What, I have a strap through it right where the mouth is.
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>>169506874
>just dictate the range against the dramatically more mobile opponent.
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>>169509268
Source shouldn't matter as long as the facts line up.
But probably because people balancing are fuck all stupid.
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>>169507295
I'm convinced this thing is rigged by some comeback algorithm. This happens too often.
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>>169508772
Anyone please? I can't be assed remembering usernames just to add people.
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>>169508713
Fuck, I wish I knew that.

Thanks.
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>grab noobushi with demons embrace while in critical
>I.bleed out half Way through the animation
> She just falls out if my hands with no damage
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>>169509268
Pretty much all useful data for every game ever comes from reddit. Because it makes more sense to post it there.
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>>169509082
I'm
>>169508340
I'm not even arguing that.
The reason that video even exists is because the additional 14 frame input delay means its nearly impossible to block it, since 14+8 = 22 meaning there is a 2 frame reaction barrier.

It isn't nearly impossible to block (with first stance switch speed) for anyone, its literally the input delay that makes it hard.
After first guard switch, if you have a penalty because you are slow, you are fucked regardless and its essentially a prediction.
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Evading shouldn't prevent you from teching a gb.
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>>169508924
but its not
you see the attack, it will hit after 300ms
average reaction time is 200ms
you would have 100ms overhead leeway for your reaction if that was the case
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>>169506874
>stay away
>she uses her fast thrusts and faster running speed to easily keep up with you

Come on dude
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>>169509082
its not changing consecutive directions its canceling your guard change into another guard change. This penalty will never occur in that situation because after you moved your guard to that side your guard will have been recovered and you will not get the penalty
Also 8frames /=/ 8 seconds
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>>169508537
pls respond
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I want futafags to die violent deaths.
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>>169509271
But I can't AFK farm that way, matchmaking off makes it that there's no timer on character selection, I wanna do this shit while I'm sleeping.

That could be solved if only someone would afk farm with me ;_;
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>>169509383
you literally get a visible bonus to your assets generated based on the amount of territories you own or do not own
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>>169509498
Wrong word or whatever.

Did you even look into the thing I posted? They compaired a raider and warden doing the exact same thing at the same time and the warden was able to change direction faster than the raider.

Go actually read it.
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>>169509164
phoneposter
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>>169509549
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>>169509250
I honestly don't care.

Just curious what happens when actually attacking the stronghold

It seems like the faction with less territory gets a buff or so since we're easily regaining land already
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>>169509375
>source: reddit

lmao sure champ
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>>169509472
No, get it through your thick head, the move is 300ms but you changing your block takes 133ms. so that means if you want to block the attack on reaction you would have to react in 167ms
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>>169509709
http://pastebin.com/SqNGcAjZ

Source is now pastebin
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>>169509549
But femzerker is a cute girl (male) with a nice feminine dick
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>>169507460
so this...is the power of a rep 3 berserker....woah...
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>>169509442
14 frame input delay also doesnt exist on pc with a mouse
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>>169509693
>>169509836
Fuck off.

You're not even human. You're a disease.
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best gear stats for kensei?
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>>169509884
WHOA....incredible customization...
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>>169509832
>first sentence
>"there has been some confusion in this subreddit"
>closed tab

why can't redditors read what they post?
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Quickly approaching rep 3. At what level should I start opening boxes for purps?
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>>169509949
revenge and attack just like everyone else
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>>169509884
nice flannel
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>>169509980
Here's your (You)
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>>169496754
> >
lol fucking faggot.
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>touches your sword*
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>>169509884
What even is the skill ceiling for zerker other than "So many feints". I wish he had more options because he's legitimately fun to play.
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F O U R T E E N

Frame Input Delay.

UBISOFT.

Even SF5 only has (or had I don't know atm) a 8 Frame delay and everyone was bitching about it then.
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>>169509250
>tfw Knights shipped their retards to the weebs
>tfw the Weebs now are going to be stuck with them for the next 4 rounds
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>fighting someone better than me
>no matter how hard I try my efforts are meaningless
fuck me
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>>169509826
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>>169509472
are you dense?
it takes 266 ms to change stance
that means you need to start the change 266ms before the attack hits you
you have 300ms before the attack hits you
that's 34 leftover for you to react
you can't react faster than 200, so you're fucked

what you're saying is like saying "yeah my thesis statement is due in 200ms, I've still got time to finish it since I can react to the deadline".
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I am shitter.
I love this game but I can stop fucking it up.
My main problem is blocking attacks, I'm not even talking about parry.
I just can't do it, I'm too fucking slow, and it's annoying to use.
I use KB+M maybe I should use a controller?
I manly play Warden, and I refuse to use vortex baby.
I need help.
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>>169509884
Don't they get like full helmets later on?
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>>169510074
Why was this NC rated scene allowed.
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>>169509891
Not seen anything that proves that.
Have however seen and felt (I play on PC), a huge input delay when I play with controller.
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>>169509647
Did you even read my post?
The character specific penalty only occurs when the character trys to cancel a guard switch with another guard switch.
If both the raider and the warden block to the left in the first place both will block the attack.
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>>169510112
The key is to get destroyed in the first round and hang the traitors in the next three rounds.
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>>169510065
You're not wrong.
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>>169507121
>Valk player spamming memes
>Give him the fatman wallbounce 720 combo
>Type "*gently hugs you* baa!" Into chat
>He ragequits
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which of these helms is better? i'm kensei if that helps

1. High debuff resistance,high revenge mode duration, very low exhaustion recovery

2. Very high debuff resistance, very low revenge mod duration, high exhaustion recovery
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>>169510273
exactly
controllers have a bigger delay
gay-ming mice can oc usb ports up to 1000hz
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>>169498461
This is true
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>>169504971
fuck off to your nigger infested fgc then
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>>169510184
Pick Orochi or PK, just evade and act like a shitter.
You will get 50% winrate or more.
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>>169510184
Use a controller.
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>female raider voice
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>>169510276
And did you read my original response to all of those people?

I literally said that. The issue arises when they CHANGE DIRECTION MORE THAN ONCE
You are guarding left? They swing right (1)
Then swing top (2) BAM FUCKING POW you get a shit ton of delay on your guard change now.
Then change direction to left (3) then zone at right And you're fucked an there is nothing you can do.
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HOW CAN I AFK FARM WITH MATCHMAKING OFF IF IT I GET STUCK ONI CHARACTER SELECTION SCREEN?

I WANT COOL LOOKING SHIT TOO, AND I'M TOO LAZY TO GRIND LEVELS.
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>>169507207
>>169506745
>>169506573
It IS a kara cancel but its really fucked up.It'd be like if Milia could kara cancel her overhead into a low, it's 100% unreactable and not something that's meant to occur in game.

The only similar thing I can think of is Honda being able to kara his overhead into specials but that was so ridiculously slow and short that it was literally useless.
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>>169510436
>fuck up a dodge
>get half your health taken away

yeah no
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>>169509936
Come on anon, if you tried girl with a dick, you might like it! .
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>>169510203
supposedly. Gotta keep grinding XP and hope for something
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>>169510392
Input delay isn't a input device related thing. Its to do with how often the game checks for an input, its why a game like SSBM has a 0-1 frame input delay and SF5 has an 8 frame delay, even on PC this is true, otherwise people with different devices would have different gameplay experiences.
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>>169510379
probably the first, especially if you've got iron lungs

revenge mode duration is really good and debuff resistance lets you tech some things that are normally untechable, plus it lowers bleed damage
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>>169510579
Stop being a fucking faggot. You like dicks, you're gay.
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>Conq vs Berserker
>charge flail, let it off when he tries to GB me
>shield bash into corner, side heavy, shield bash into corner again, side heavy, execution
>all he got was a single input before I mercilessly murdered him
I feel genuinely bad about that.
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>>169510436
But I hate assassin classes.
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>>169510493
>think she sounds alright when speaking english
>unblockable
>suddenly sounds like an old grandma

Male Raider it is
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>>169510531
I'd imagine you'd need to do it with a partner. HOWEVER:
>matchmaking issues because it's Ubisoft
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>>169493313
>put down beartrap
>it hits me
>now i have no stamina and i got damaged by it

holy shit this thing is bad
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>>169510080
nothing. You can only feint so much and you lose to anyone more than mildly skilled at the game. A good warden/warlord/conq is a nightmare.

They also still haven't fixed the problem with zerker's light attack.
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>>169510684
Welcome to conqueror play. You've hit the skillcap.
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>>169510179
>266
nevermind, see >>169509098
same principle applies though
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>>169510112
>wardlord with revenge: i'm growing stronger
>>
Is anyone else still not getting rewards at the end of matches or received any rewards from matches played earlier today?
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>>169510724
>JEG RIVER KO I BITAR
Basically "I am ripping the cow to shreds"
Wikangz are fun when you hear what they say.
>>
how long does it take to activate a full-block stance?
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Which Hero have you rightfully switched genders for?
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>>169510528
Jesus christ man there is a difference between changing guard directions and canceling the guard change with another guard change.
The penalty only occurs if you try to change your guard more than once before your guard change has recovered.
Nothing in this game will exploit this because no string in the game is close or faster than 8 frames. If you get block a right attack than your guard was completed which means you can switch the guard without a penalty
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>last time played 3 days ago
>kinghts were getting btfo by samurai and vikings
>log in now
>vikings and knights team up to fuck up the weebs

MUH DICK

But in all seriousness we can't let the Vikings turn on us before we turn on them
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>>169510112
>lose on purpose to find the unfaithful shitheads
>they defect to weebs and snowniggers
>completely fucking obliterate them
zero flaws with this plan
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>85% winrate, never disconnect during matches to avoid loss and always rematch people until they leave, even if i'm losing
Feels good being a warden
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>>169511095
>no string in the game is close or faster than 8 frames

UNLESS YOU THROW IN 14 FRAMES OF INPUT DELAY LMAO
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>>169511069
all my weeb characters are women except Shugoki
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>get a light on a Raider after a block
>start infinite chaining
>he starts trying to GB me repeatedly
>bully him until I run out of stamina
lmfao
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>>169507460
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>>169511195
You don't understand what he's saying my dude
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K_YfnPb-9I

14 FRAMES OF INPUT DELAY.

F O U R T E E N.

and according to the guy who made the video:
>Im vedio creator. it's same result keyboard input. But that is difficult make overay input keyboard vedio, then not record that.
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>>169511294
>dude deus vult lmao xD
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>>169511294
they're grrrrreat!
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>>169511336
8 frames to change direction + 14 frames of input delay = 22 frames leaving 2 of the 24 frames for reation.

Yes I do.
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>>169510493
>Female conqueror's voice.
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Help me.
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>>169511401
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>169511195
There is no 14 frame input delay you idiot.
The only delay is when you cancel a guard change into another guard change but if you just switch your guard on the side of all of the attacks without extra changes than your delay will only be 8 frames.
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>>169511164
>warden

Lost all respect after that
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>>169510674
Its a girls dick, though
>>
guys im not getting this unblockable stuff
im a rep3 lawbringer and i just fought a rep3(i think?) pk in a duel
kinda blocked most of the stuff
and then my fucking graphics driver crashed while i was taking it back
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>>169509041
Ask in 2 years then retard
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>>169511498
>dude shitposting lmao xD
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>>169509549
What about traps?
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>>169510782
dont walk forward into it retard

they're good af for ledging people
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>>169511460
Please no more roaches.
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>>169511510
>there is no 14 frame input delay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K_YfnPb-9I

Please learn. We need to get this 14 frame delay fixed.
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>>169510674
so what, wanna fight about it sweetheart?
>>
What is the worst cheese no-skill hero and why is it Orochi?
>>
>its impossible to kill off a faction
Why is that a thing?
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>>169511379
is the input delay just because of the game or the networking
>>
>none of the "weak but fast" classes are gender locked to make
>None of the "strong but slow" classes are gender locked to female
This is why we need feminism
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>>169511426
You can buffer inputs my dude
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>>169511774
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>>169511840
It's PK read the thread
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>>169511774
this is literally one guy saying there is a 14 frame delay.
Tell me why I and the majority of the community can react block 18 frame moves then.
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>>169511882
It shouldn't matter, but it could be either with the odd networking model ubisoft have decided to do.
There is a minimum delay of around 100ms latency before any input show up on the other guys computer anyway according to this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAU5bIalbnc
but this guy didn't account for any input delay.
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>>169511774
There are 4 characters with a delay in their guard speeds:

Lawbringer
Raider
Nobushi
Shugoki

gfycat com/ClosedSecondhandDrever
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Does anyone from EU who can record want to test this shit?
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>>169509361
>>169509479
Literally roll backwards. I do it all the time and it works perfectly. Stop theoryduelling and just do it.
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>>169511686
My last match was against 4 wardens. Half of them just tried to vortex the other half only poked with top light and zone.

By the end of the match I had counter-wardened so hard that all but one of them left.
>>
>>169502332
how do you spam the zone attack like that? normally she does two slow swings in a row...
>>
>>169512212
no everyones guard speed is the same with one guard change its only different on guard cancels
>>
>level two Kensei bot exists on a plane of pure butter and just slides everywhere
help
>>
>>169511923
>buffer inputs
I don't know if you are the other guy I was replying too, but that is the single stupidest response in existence considering we are talking about the fact that BY BUFFERING INPUTS you get a shit ton of direction change delay.

Please for the love of god do not reproduce.

>>169512125
>one guy with actual video evidence that is being spread like wild fire
Nigger dropping that "facts don't matter, how I feel [how the game plays] matters"

>majority of the community can react block 18 frames
Majority of the community plays the fast as fuck characters. And also, a MAJORITY says this is a problem. Stop sitting in your echochamber.
>>
>>169512312
what is a guard cancel
>>
>>169512384
>level 2

you aint seen nuthin yet
>>
How the actual fuck are you supposed to fight a Conqueror that can Guard Break
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Is For Honor the saltiest fighting game ever?
Kids get SO MAD...
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>>169512402
when you switch your guard to one side but before it finishes switching you try to switch it to another side
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>>169510782
>gets hit because of his own stupidity
WOW! I didn't do anything! I just walked into the trap and I couldn't do anything about it, wow!
>>
>playing a match
>guy in chat won't stop talking about how Warden isn't broken
>look at his character
>Warden
>>
>>169512453
Naw, honestly it's pretty normal for fighting games.
>>
>>169512030
If you're so shit that you can't even compete against a bugged class, then you should just git going.
>>
>>169512438
I mean I'm expecting some real shit from Lv3 bots but why the fuck is the Lv2 Kensei pulling this shit.
>>
>>169512438
>level 5 bots that fight when you duel at an enemy stronghold
>>
>>169512550
This isn't AT ALL confirmed, is it?
>>
>>169512550
>datamine that didn't happen when the samurai were at the knight's stronghold
>>
>>169512453
Kids in Souls got just as mad, they just had no chat
>>
Is it just me or there are less LB now?
I guess people finally stop memeing
>>
>>169511030
No. He says I'll rip you to shreds. "Ég rif ykkúr i bitá"
>>
>>169512441
The other day I got guard broke by one like 2 times into a wall and that was the end of me.

Half the time when I feel like trying to counter guard breaks on them it just doesn't work
>>
~QUESTION~

How do you build your 4v4 Elim Warlord, feat-wise?

>>169512653
I have noticed that as well
>>
>>169512618
tbf they didn't surround
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>The best color schemes are for duels only
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>>169512395
What are you saying???
Are you trying to argue for the 14 frame input delay or the guard cancel frame punish.
No one would be able to react to 20 frame moves if there was a 14 frame input delay.
The guard cancel punish only occurs when you cancel a changing direction of the guard with another
>>
>>169512723
Dry Blood is for attackers, too.
Defenders have literally nothing, though.
>>
>>169512706
The likelyhood of any stronghold getting surrounded is very very slim. We're never going to see that event. If that is even what causes it.
>>
>>169493313
So whats the best method for afk farming in this game?
>>
>>169512795
Breeze
>>
>kill 300 soldiers in pvp order
>enemy team is all rep 1 and lower
>my team is all rep 3 and higher
>im just sitting in their spawn killing dudes
>they literally cant do anything to me but keep giving me revenge so i can spam my zone even more
>not even trying to kill any of them
>still manage to kill some of them somehow
>other guy just says fuck it and goes to a control point
>they spend the whole match crying about gear and no skill when they were literally just walking into my zone over and over and dying
i love this game so much
>>
>>169512669
I know, but it is one of those perception things, when you hear what you want to hear.
And for me, it is a lot more fun with the cow ripping part.
>>
Does chip only occur on heavy attacks?
Is it 1 damage?
#conqproblems
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reminder that you shouldn't be a noodle chode
that fucking word kills me.
>>
SO how will the stronghold events work?

Will everyone in game of the surrounded faction have to fight a member of the enemy to defend? Or what?
>>
>>169512863
Taste might be subjective, but you objectively have bad taste.
>>
>>169501491
lawbringer has the best executions in the game IMO
>>
>>169512491
wow!
>>
So berserker can slow down his top heavy attack? Not the one where he jumps, but the one where he stays on the ground.
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>>169512723
>not wearing comfy white flanell shirts while beating knights to death
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>>169513000
What do you use on defense then, hotshot?
>>
>>169512757
As of right now, I am saying

Due to the 14 second input delay, and the 8 frames of guard direction, it is EXTREMELY difficult to reactivity punish peacekeeper light spam. If they were to do a soft feint from left into a right zone there is no way you can deal with it due to the increased direction change delay on the slower characters.

I hope that clears everything up.
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>walking around with a giant ugly hydra on my head
>>
>>169512453
>>169512510
>>169506009
>>169508275
>>169508610
>fighting game
heh
>>
>>169513082
>That open shirt
This looks mad gay lmao
>>
>shield bashes now deal damage
>>
>>169503497
>why are niggers only good at running?

All those who are bad at running are in jail
>>
>win rate down to 30% from afking 3 nights in a row
t-they are going to have separate stats for PvP and PvAI, r-right?
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>tfw you receive all the salt for playing warden and destroying scrubs
>"all you do is the same combo omg ur so bad such a scrub"

I live for this shit desu
>>
>>169512965
No one knows. It was a shitty datamine that has not has not happened and likely never will.
>>
>>169513020
Just got the impale execute, it so much fun to hoist PK, Nobus n Roaches up in the air.
>>
>>169513234
It's a perk you can take.
>>
What actually matters more, Spring Speed for Execution Health Regen for Raider?
>>
>>169513343
>raider
>retardtackle
take sprint speed
>>
>>169511459
this
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>The unblockable perk for kensei

Jesus christ the tears are so fucking delicious
>>
>tfw playing pvai just to report afkers
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How do I get good so I won't get slayed? Matchmaking keeps putting me against Prestige's and I can't handle it at all.

Conq tips?
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>Lawbringer have a huge ass weapon
>Range of a dwarf mosquito
I would like to know why
>>
What the fuck is a lawbringer supposed to do to a good nobushi?
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>>169511459
absolutely fucking homosexual
she has the best female voice in the game
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>lvl 9 bots
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do you need an autoclicker to afk farm dominion bots? how do you get past the character select screen? it doesn't have a timer
>>
>>169513597
he's supposed to die when he fights nobushi
>>
>afk'ing games

Scum
>>
Is this game worth getting for the campaign alone?
>>
>>169513147
But there it would nearly be impossible to react to 600 ms moves if there was a 232ms delay and the 133ms block delay
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>tfw can gb tech reliably now

It completely annihilates some people's strategy and makes them panic so hard I can land a full 3xheavy chain with Zerker
>>
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good place to download game soundtracks? Preferably no torrents. Need some music for my honor desu
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>>169507460
I have the best hat.
>>
>>169513769
Short answer no
Long answer NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE
>>
>>169513573
wait for them to attack
throw them into a corner
spam shield bash combo
report his emblem
>>
>>169513769
it has some nice moments, but hell no
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>>169513561
>Expecting Ubi to do their jobs
I'm gonna AFK just to spite you
>>
>>169513769
no.

>spending 60 dollars to only play half of the game
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>current Samurai Territory status
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>>169513743
sorry i dont want to go up against 108 gearscore on a character i'm just picking up with 0 gearscore
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>>169513147
there is no 14 second input delay pleb..
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>>169513836
When do you start getting the better hats, I only get the ugly gladiator one atm.
>>
>>169512623
>phantom range
>phantom backstabs
fuck dark souls pvp was trash
i with that had p2p
>>
So, what do i do against an opponent that decided to NEVER attack first
>>
>bullying people off ledges with shield bash
I love being a dick.
>>
>>169512653
Why would you play a character who literally cannot handle PK and is incredibly bad at capitalizing off his main mechanic?
>>
>>169512702
bump
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>>169514002
>>
>>169514002
try to feint
if they keep reading feints, follow through with an attack every once in a while

also i find zoning them/whiffing your first attack and then slapping them with the second in a combo can sometimes be effective
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>>169514010
it is supreme
>>
>>169513972
Yes there is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K_YfnPb-9I
>>
>>169514002
Ignore them, let the timer run out
>Beat a peacekeeper in elim
>Kill my guy, peacekeeper comes up to res him/fight
>just sits there looking at me in my guard stance for 10s, turns around and walks away
>>
>>169513670
I would like to know this as well
>>
>>169514180
shitty Chinese video "proves it"
>>169513798
pls see pleb
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>>169513573
>>169513871

No more prestiges please. I can't. I just want to learn and have some fun.

How does matchmaking work? Why am I not against equal skill?
>>
>>169514180
Now one in english.
>>
>>169514180
Taht's not 14 seconds, that's 14 frames.

Like can you tell time or not?
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>>169512453
This game brings out other worldly salt from my friends who I've known for years. I've seen them get mad at any game you can think of but this game pushed it to a new limit for them.

it's fucking hilarious
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>>169507460
>>
Is it ok to ledge people in 1v1s and 2v2s as lawbringer since he fucking sucks so much anyway?
>>
>the current faction war situation

SAMURAI WHAT IS GOING ON
>>
Why does the knight's special Mythic effect have to be SO UTTER SHIT!

>Vikings get electric lightning and thunder clouds ... remnant of the power of their drums struck while rowing their boats and the storms faced out at sea
>Samurai get petals from the cherry blossom tree ... remnant of their cultural home and their connection to the beautiful blossoming season
>Knights get two rather small spikes of fire out of their back ... remnant of ... (hell?) ?
>>
>>169508493
If there really was a 233ms input delay than moves that were almost 600ms would be unreactable, but as we all know that is definitely not the case
>>
>>169514180
this is why pk is unbeatable against shugoki/lb
>>
>>169514423
It's always okay to ledge people and only shitters think otherwise.
>>
>>169513573
well as a conqueror, i personally think the most important factor in winning is the git gud factor...
>>
>>169514448
There's some sort of anti losing mechanic that makes this shit roll in waves.

Knights are about to crest their wave, and then lose all their territories. Then it'll be either vikings or weebs that sweep in to win the round.
>>
>>169514423
its fine if its not what you 100% focus on, and instead do it only if the opportunity arises naturally
>>
>>169514471
Something something holy fire of purging
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>>169508824
I will not stand for this.

Kakkatte koi yo.
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>>169514471
Pic Related.
>>
New thread when?
>>
>>169514315
Oh jesus christ I used the word seconds again.

>>169514287
>>169514303

>needing words to see a video that shows everything

Short quick translation:
"We did input to this direction as show in the controller input indicator below, it took 14 frames for the in game indicator to show the stick move starting the 8 frames of guard direction change. Therefore to change direction from neutral it takes a total of 22 frames."
>>
>>169514302
prestige != skill
there is no actual matchmaking
you learn quicker by playing against more skilled opponents anyway
>>
>>169514471
knights is the best one and samurai is the worst one

t. samurai main(s)
>>
>>169514762
knight is the worst one and samurai is the 2nd best one
>>
>>169514757
Source?
>>
>>169514471
Well, in Christian faith, the Angel Gabriel had wings of fire, iirc.
>>
>>169514762
Vikings is the best one.

If the fire spikes were meant to be "wings" then they did an utter shit job of doing it.
>>
>>169513990
I am not even sure you can get different cosmetics after prestige 3.
>>
>>169514848
i think the fire looks really good during executions, especially conq and lawbringer ones
>>
>>169514689
I thought you went onto paint for the viking one what in the actual fuck.
>>
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Post salt
>>
>complete vikangz story on realistic while my NAT is stuck red
>don't get the reward

nice game ubi
>>
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>>169513990
this is a purple helmet, but some blue ones are nice, like the Havel one.
>>
>>169514689
that raider looks like someone just drew some squiggles on him in paint
>>
>>169514471
>not purging heretics with righteous flame

It is purely a taste of what is to come for them for eternity after you are done with them.
>>
ZA11 best mouse
>>
>>169515052
>>169515052
>>169515052
>>169515052
>>
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>>169514287
>>169513972
Provide proof of your counterargument or shut the fuck up.

Of course, you haven't done any research, so just shut the fuck up.
>>
>>169515015
i finished the samurai one when it was red and i got everything
>>
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>duels as conq
>warden lvl1
>obviously just started playing
>try to teach him that bg is counterable
>smack him a little
>he leaves

>next duel
>orochi rep2
>doesn't know how to tech guardbreaks
>doesn't speak english
>smack him around
>throw him around the entire map untill i throw him off
>he wants a rematch
>do the same
>HE ACTUALLY TECHES A COUPLE
>START FRANTICALLY RAH-RAH-RAH IN CIRCLES WHILE HE KILLS ME
>>
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Need rep 24 for the perfect color scheme, but he's ready to bring your order.
>>
>>169496315
>the guard-play that the Raider is doing around 8 sec
Do people actually think this is effective?
Switching back and forth rapidly only makes you an easy target because you're thinking about the opponent thinking instead of actually attacking or feinting.
Every time I see a shitter do this I attack. It's like they're throwing up a little red flag for you so that you know they'll be in the middle of a guard switch when your weapon impacts.
It's a street-tier basketball play.
>>
>>169515142
>>169513798
>>
>>169514483
This is true. But there is definitely a large input delay in this game. You can feel it when you try to move. The input delay could also just be how often the game checks for inputs, leading to a between 14-1 frame delay.
>>
>get into brawl match
>i start the game with no partner
>not even an ai
>other two are cool about it and we just fuck around and push each other

But still, what the fuck
>>
>>169515167
Nice mcdonalds emblems
>>
i just got this game and first two "duels" i got connecting screen 5 times during match.....
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>>169514010
i luv bashi
>>
>>169515167
Good evening, I'd like one Big Mac, large fries and a large diet Coke.
>>
>try to teach a Warden
>he just leaves
>>
>>169515549
Flipping a shugoki on the grill right away.
>>
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>>169495848
>It's the rep 1-3 players you must fear, because those people play exclusively duel/brawl.

hey that's me!
>>
>>169515254
PK's lights aren't 600ms dumbass.
>>
>>169515206
usually you can tell if someone is a retard if they sit there and do it all the time
that guy didn't do it as much, was some minor mindgames maybe, but people that legitimately spam their guard everywhere are just clowns
>>
is uplay still fucked? every other game i just get a black screen on new rounds and i have to force quit
>>
>>169515939
what does this even mean? I never said they were I said if there was a 14 frame delay on top of the 8 frame guard switch it would be nearly impossible to block anything at 600ms. thats much slower than pks lights which are at 500ms.
>>
>>169514423
its never okay to ldege people unless they started it
or used revenge
>>
Who needs a nerf?

Orochi
Shugoki
Warden
>>
Is Champ Status even worth it? I think I'm gonna save up for cool skins.
>>
>>169504693
Lesser hazards should be a thing. Like getting knocked into a manure cart or a tree and having a bee hive dropped on you for minimal extra damage but maximum shame.
>>
>Matches randomly don't give rewards
UBISOFT FIX THIS SHIT RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>169516943
PK

And revenge stat.
>>
>>169516943
orochi is a shitter stomper, hes good but far from needing a nerf, shitgoki is awful at high levels of play, just parry the faggot nonstop, and for the few that abuse the bug just dodge around and hit them a few times, wardens mixers are way to strong currently just dont allow shoulderbash cancel into gb, its already a hard to punish spam with that its way to safe for its reward.
coming from a lawbringer, rep 4 of purely duels. to add to this list id say speed up all the people with incredibly slow guard change speeds, cause you need to have perfect timing to punish braindead pk players mashing r1. Nobushi is fine where she is, valk is a lil underpowered but shes getting buff, conq is too, zerk is getting the much needed change to not gitting fucked when using lights so we'll see how zerk plays out from that. Raider is alright to slightly underpowered currently, tho his cancel into bash upper is pretty good and really fast. Warlord is good. Kensei needs maybe a little more push all he can do right now is feint spam and hope to land hits, his kit ain't that great, but i haven't vsd any really good ones, at best mediocre ones. And law needs some decently big buffs, either give him the damage for how slow he is, or give him more speed, and make parries from him alot more punishable, instead of just gbing out of them being your best option cause everyone can do that. make his side heavy push always work even on heavy parries, keep the overhead unblockable to only light parries. and give him more combos from doing his light special out of parries. Hes a counter attacker who has less options then everyone else when it comes to parrying, its plain sad.
>>
Remove the I-frames on dodging, most problems solved.
>>
>>169515160
the pure amount of assassin players who cant tech gbs even at high reps is fucking poetry, you can tell the retards have mashed r1 to get where they are and probably think they're good, its even better to see how fast they quit when you parry them.
>>
>>169509383
How many times a thread is this statement/question going to be made?
>>
>>169511069
Zerker & roach.
I respect people who switch raider.
>>
>>169513082
>white
>on a berzerker of all things
Hope you enjoy that nice clean shirt for all 5 seconds it stays that way.
>>
who is the most op 1v1 champion
>>
>>169518965
warden
>>
>>169518965
peacekeeper
>>
>>169518965
warden
>>
>>169518965
peacekeeper
>>
>>169508824
tfw Knights will win forever and I'll NEVER be raped by strong Raiders
>>
>>169518965
shugoki
>>
>>169508315
Neat
>>
"Im vedio creator. it's same result keyboard input. But that is difficult make overay input keyboard vedio, then not record that."

This is the man who has caused such a retarded shitstorm. This guy. The guy who made the vedio.

Jesus Christ you people are grasping onto straws. I've fought a lot of different people who can block and parry my lights, even if I feint or mix it up.

I lose a lot too. I admit I'm not very good, but I'm not going to blame anybody else because I'm not shit enough to be ignorant to how shit works in the real world. Buff PK.
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