/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #12323 - You let the

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Eh, 1233, fucked up my editing or whatever.

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how big do you think her poo is

Whats a good ring for Rangers? My sub class is braver.

>>169426289
about the size of Poopoo New Guinea.

>>169426045
>Man Jackson
That guy is cancer

>>169426289
How do I get little fangs like that!? They are so cute!

>>169428349
I believe those are accessories

>>169428940
Do you know what they are called? I want them so bad!

>>169429072
吸血鬼の牙 or 獣の牙

>>169429474
Thank you so much!! I hope they are not too expensive.

How does a Katana focused Br actually complement their bossing with a bow? Kamikaze arrow fell out of favor a long time ago, is there something new you do or do you just switch out your units for a bow and pretend you're a bow braver?

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When you were shitposting, I studied the blade.
When you were ERPing, I mastered Just Counters.
While you wasted your days doing TACOs for lewd clothes, I cultivated 200HP units.

And now that the world is on fire and Esca Ragnus is at the green base, you have the audacity to come to me for help?

>>169430542
I got by with Sharp Bomber-0 for those long range fights, but I still stick to the Katana when I can.

Banish/Kamikaze still seems to work, doesn't it?

>>169431386
Yes, it does. Running Massive hunter is needed nowadays though due to all the flinching that happens.

>>169431348
That outfit... I would rather die.
+1 for pasta!

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>>169430542
I was a katana fag, from my experience it was kind of possible, but you will miss out a lot from rapid shoot.

You really, really need that rapid shoot tree to do the insane burst because it has 500 free ratk, +15% raw damage and ez pp regen.

>>169431613
I was fairly sure you could take the rapid shoot tree even as a katana BR, since it leaves you with plenty of free points.

I want to marry Lang!

>>169431998
Oh yeah, you actually can.
I forgot my stuff was around austere when the rapid shoot stuff costs 10 sp.

Yeah, you can basically spend around 17sp for katana stuff, put all else on rapid and there you go.
But as for me, once you try the bow and its ridiculous sharp bomber, there's no reason to use katana beside some crutch play, like killing solo PD bits which can save you lots of time.

>>169431998
You're going to be missing stuff for both katana and bow braver with a hybrid tree. You sacrifice a lot less for Katana so it's ok if that's your thing but bow will be missing a ton of crucial skills. You may as well just play bow at that point.

>>169432465
Why Lang?

Does anyone have lilith's sid the sloth file? i wanna can make it not shit

What do I do with イザネ宝晶?

>Element Keep still loses charge when using Vinto

For what purpose. Why would I want the one big fuckoff attack that BO has be the thing that also makes me need to recast.

Has anyone else been getting constant 630s tonight? I can't stay connected for more than 5 minutes at a time and pso2 is the only thing dropping.

>>169434957
probably just on your end
>>169434136
sell them to the npc shop for 50k each, that's their only use I believe

>>169430542
You don't, and just invest in all satk on the braver and hunter trees and use a katana for bossing. It ends up better for most situations, and the times where its not its only slightly worse off, while also giving you even better mobbing power.

>>169434957
Do you use the proxy?

>>169435504
No I just live on the opposite side of the world so there's a million places along the way for a provider to fuck up.

>>169435603
Ohh. Well then I guess that would be why!

>>169434957
>>169435746
PSO2 is being a laggy 630ing piece of shit for me too right now.

Does anyone have a clue as to why my gpu temp raises to 73 degrees with this crappy game?

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>he still can't srank solo PD
>m-m-m-m-m-m-muh honor!

>>169436596
bitcoin miner (AIDS twerker)

>>169436596
This game is horribly unoptimized, my cpu/gpu stay cooler while playing much more recent and intensive games. That being said, if your temps are getting that high it's probably an issue on your end.

>>169432465
ey bby sur where you @ i gib u hug first okay yes

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rappie genocide best day of my life

>>169436871
tfw I'm using AIDS Twerker

>>169436596
Check to see if you have FPS set to unlimited.

>>169437082
I can't wait to see how pathetic the exp is from this even further diluting tokyo keys from the pool and making leveling more annoying.

>>169437082
i can't wait for emper embrace to become worthless and having an extra chance of getting something absolutely worthless from featured quests

>>169437082
I wonder if being level 80 will make the rappies be 80 and if so, does this mean fornis will drop from this? Pretty much the only redeemable quality of this bonus quest.

>>169437082
I assume it was added in to make the AC buying rewards more tempting.

>>169437545
That wouldn't be the case because these quests all have set drop tables like xq. You don't get 13* from the tagami in tokyo keys.

>>169437745
So it's just a waste that dilutes the key pool further, sick. Wish I sold off my 800~ empe embrace fodders sooner

>>169436871
Is there any proof of that yet?

>>169437849
I tried both tweaker and .bat method to compare when the rumors of that started happening and my gpu temps were the exact same. AIDA would need to be a genius to mask it.

>>169437992
ok AIDA

>>169437992
>>169439062
Isn't AIDA really bad at it though? I have heard people complain about it a lot.

>>169439249
He did swindle a bunch of people's money but then he made Tweaker open source. I honestly don't think AIDA could make a bitcoin miner but wasn't there a rather shady fellow that joined the team?

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>>169439085

>>169439772
Why is there a naked Morrigan from Darkstalkers in the back?

>>169439719
Szidian was working on a proxy with AIDA, yeah.

>>169439772
The one with Karen's hair is quite cute.

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>>169439085

>>169440821
nice nep

>>169439863
inb4 >post deleted

>>169439719
>but then he made Tweaker open source
Only for ancient old versions.

>basically pre 4.x are open source, while 4.x and onwards aren't.

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>>169440821
best goddess

any word on this buff nerf coming up?

>>169443397
There are no class changes incoming, just new rings and PA/tech crafts

>>169442730
Remove nep

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ded

>>169445878
Cute pig.

>>169445878
ooooh babe

>>169445878
I'm glad my character is flat.

>>169445878
I guess that's what you'd call a Bouncer!

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>>169448957

>>169448957

>>169448957
(You)

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>>169448957

It's a "no e-codes for an entire loop of the map" episode

>>169450685
I got the final piece for a full izane set, so I don't really care that my first run took 12 minutes.

>>169450685
>I don't really want anything that drops in XH, might as well go do SH instead and get some EXP for one of my other classes
>first run
>nirvalieze spawns
>izane spawns
>second run
>emperappy
>third run
>630

Well, fuck me.

>685% drop boost
>basically nothing above 9% the entire time
why is this allowed. whoever's responsible, go eat a wagonload of dicks.

>>169452354
To be fair, Choco was kind of nuts. It was the same thing every time and not hard to get 5 runs of in a pub with good CF fill rates and drops. The problem is that they immediately went from that to the garbage that is white day which is a random guruguru that causes >>169451558
>>169450685 with bad exp, bad CF fill rates and not even good drops if you happen to get one. It's basically an EQ to farm phrase weak fodder that's far inferior to the last one in just about every way. If you actually use boots, first get some help, but otherwise good for you. Fornis sword isn't even that much of an upgrade considering you'd have to lose the PP regen from Astra.

reposting
can someone help me a fo/te tree? I have no clue where to put the remaining 9 points in the te tree in. Shifta Advance? T-atk up?
http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11uDbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIojdS8dodBIb000000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000dBbsiN2SGBeKjbxGAfdAI2000007oInidjGAqBIkIkGAJIcA000009bIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j

>>169436596
nProtect Gameguard

>>169453198
Could always drop those remaining 9 points + the level 80 SP into Dark mastery so your fomelgion doesn't completely suck if you insist on maxing wind.

>>169453557
Probably gonna use my other tree for it since I've lost interest in techer main

>>169436596
>73 degrees
I wish my GPU only heated to 73 playing pso2. with shaders off on a good day I end up at 75, and with them on I've had it spike almost to 90 with the sidepanel on. toasterfag life sux, yo.
but I've definately run into worse optimized games.
>BnS does not into optimization
>and if you put it in toaster mode you get eyecancer, while pso2's toaster mode is just ugly

>>169453095
Iunno, most of the time I was lucky to pull four runs per session of choco with pubbies. n' at least piles of 10* shit can become passably decent fodder. fuck, 12* units would be nice, but grysoras is a stingy fag and izane practically never spawns. oh, and itskie seems to have a ton of chocolate for a fag who forgot whiteday, but ain't parting with that unit of his.

>>169453778
I still think you might want to put it in dark mastery so you have a fomelgion option. Barring that, you can put the points in T-atk up. Shifta advance is a lot weaker than the text makes it look, I'm 99% sure you get more stats from just maxing T-atk up.

>>169454114
Where does the Itsuki unit actually come from? I had no idea RINA/Itsuki even gave them out until a few days ago. Is it from any e-code where Itsuki appears or just Gruzoras? Too bad any 12* unit that isn't a leg is useless right now though.

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>>169436596
unlimited fps
nvidia inspector or radeonPro
a problem on your end
bad optimization
any or all of the above

>>169453095
even as a boots user I'd still rather use astra over fornis boots

>>169454482
Fantastic, it's just an inferior phrase weak farm EQ then. I forgot about the launcher that regens PP but I don't play ranger to know if people actually want it or not.

>>169454297
>>169454114
Itsuki/RINA units drop from any e codes in the eq that they spawn with, not sure if it's the same as e codes outside of the eq. Itsuk's unit sucks a bag of dicks though so not sure why you would even want that trash.

>>169455369
Haven't even looked at it, there's just seriously no point in using a 12* besides a leg unit right now. Austere+leg just shits on everything unless you really need the ring slots.

>>169455369
Is the rina unit good?

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mATOI dAA yooooo

>>169455583
Yes, Austere+12* legs combo beats every full 12* units at stats but I don't see myself going back to one L ring after getting used to air reversal and step jump. You should still look into getting RINA's since it's a really good arm piece for r atk once you make the inevitable switch.

does anyone know if gunner's aerial advance works on naturally flying enemies who are already midair?

>>169455683
Yeah for ranged classes, 15pp and 40 r atk. Itsuki gives 25 s and r atk and 150 hp because he's a cancerslash shutter.

>>169455683
15 PP, 40 r-atk, it's not bad

>>169455862
How would you go about getting the RINA unit now that choco is over?

>>169455932
From what I remember, the swiki entry sounded like it only works on enemies you launch.

>>169456263
SORO's codes also gives that iirc

>Look at my character's panties in layered wear
>notice a bulge
What?

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>>169456803
PUFFY

VULVA

>>169453198
If you have a second tree for Fomel you should just drop them in TAtk or PP, depending on which you need more, if you don't you put them in Dark.

>>169456263
SORO is RINA, so codes with SORO in white day can still drop the unit.

>>169456263
Any Rina (and possibly SORO?) ETs can give it to you. If SORO works you might get one during the White Day EQs, if not you might chance upon one as a Rina ET reward in whatever stuff with random codes you run.

>>169456935
Why does my character have this? I didn't see an option in the sliders.

>>169459458
probably a side effect of you messing with the hip slider at some point in time

>>169458302
I can confirm - I have definitely gotten the RINA unit from SORO codes in white day EQ.

>>169460050
Neat, now if only 12* units ever fucking dropped. I still haven't seen an invade unit over a year later.

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Lmao2falz

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>>169461030
Fight gix from the shadows.

http://pso2.jp/players/event/newyear2017/webevent/

Final panel unlocked, anyone know what it means?

>>169464679
We get 1 star gem for every 350k points after 180m, unlike before there is no cap to the max number we can get.

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>>169436735
fun

>>169466148
Why would you blow those all now and not just wait until boost week?

>>169466384
It's not like i can't do them now and then later too.

>>169466519
But every single run you do now is a run you can't do then, since you used up that trigger.

>>169466632
Not if he has more time than triggers.

>>169466632
I have more badges than I'll have time.

>All this talk about RINA unit, decide to look it up since those stats are nice
>It's the unit I kept finding in my inventory and kept throwing out because I never heard of it before
FUCK

>>169466909
Yeah that came out the inverse of what I meant to type.

What's the best way to go about tech/PA crafting? Do you just throw enough money at it until you get close to the high end of the merit and pray the demerit doesn't suck or are the merit/demerit boosts worth using?

>>169466923
>those stats are nice
no those stats are shit.

>>169469015
15PP is nice for bow

>>169469065
And 20pp from whitill would be nicer, what's your point?

>>169469093
Austere isn't gonna be best in slot forever. Out of the 12* units we have so far, I'd use Rina arm over anything else currently for bow.

>>169469294
But Whitill is a 12* unit too.

http://pso2affix.seilent.net/#!/s=RC33.AC04.ZA01.ZB01&1=UA21.ZA01.ZB01.AC04&2=UA21.ZA01.ZB01.AC04&3=UA21.ZA01.ZB01.ZC01&4=XA01.ZA01.ZB01.ZC01&5=&r=AC04.RC33.UA21.ZA01&o=B09.A06

Will this work if the fifth fodder is phrase weak factor or modulator factor?

>>169469658
I see you don't know how to affix anon, but I don't feel like helping you learn.

>>169469908
Yeah this is the first time I'm affixing, pls help

>>169468271
Ask someone else to do it for you its easier

>>169470103
How exactly does this work besides just putting in the craft request a million times and hoping you get a good one back? Isn't that exactly what I asked about in my first post?

>>169469658
It will work just fine if you are okay with the ~77% success rate.
Unless you have the materials for a ton of this fodder already there is significantly cheaper ways to go about doing that affix though. Play around with the sim a bit, maybe do some reading, and try to see how specific things transfer, you'll figure it out. If someone just gives you your recipes you will just have to ask again and again every other time.

>>169468271
For PA crafts your level only makes good crafts a bit more likely so you can safely spam those yourself until you get something good. The Tech Recipes are locked behind crafting level so you need to find someone to spam them for you unless you feel like spending a dozens of millions leveling crafts yourself

>>169469979
I'm going to be blunt, you're wasting phrase weak (or any non direct affixed weapon factor) on anything less than 6 slot. If you're willing to upgrade your plans to something better I may be willing to assist.

>>169469979
http://fulldiveDOTnu/2015/01/06/pso2-affixing-101/
replace dot with .
should do the trick, hope it helps

Can you get statIV to 90-100% without boosts?

>>169471556
If your affix doesn't need boosts, it isn't good enough to really care about statIV over statIII

>>169471667
I'm trying to upslot to 6s whilst keeping statIVs m8
That's why I'm asking for that high chansu without boost

>>169471737
That makes more sense. StatIV doesn't play nice with upslotting, you can't get the success chance that high.

>>169471737
You can get stat 4/stat5 at 100% upslot chance, it'll just cost you a metric assload.

While on the topic of affixing, can anyone vouch for Astral Soul? While it's obviously great I don't quite know if I'm in the mood to double the cost of a unit set affix for the sake of the defense it gives. Is it really that worth it?

>>169472042
It gives defense, hp, and more pp than any other soul. If you're in for a long term set on good units, you probably want astral. If you're after a casual ass set, just go with an ult soul.

With astral you have 3 options:
>yolo soul (both regular and upslot)
Astral soul+soul receptor, 10% base chance.
>not-quite-as-yolo soul (upslot)
4 catalysts+darkness upslot, base 60% before upslotting.
>same slot no yolo
4 catalysts+darkness+whatever else. Horrendously expensive the higher you get, but 100% safe and doable outside of boost weeks.

What's the best way to get the Blue weapons from the Ray collect sheets? I'm going for sword and rod, which needs Cucloneda and Kartago respectively. Should I be doing AQs to get the drops directly, or is there a place I can farm these that actually fills up the gauge at a reasonable rate?

>>169472216
There are so many places astral soul can randomly fail I'm hesitant to try it. I've had expensive affixes end up costing close to double what they were originally supposed to because the final affix only had a 94% success rate. Knowing my luck I'm just begging Sega to throw away countless fodders that cost millions each

>>169473286
Well, with ext receptor now, you can basically get 100% with stat 4'swithout TOO much difficulty, but it involves putting literally all your eggs in one basket fodder wise, since you need 4 catalysts, an ext receptor, and the actual fodder.

>>169473951
What kind of ballpark are we talking price wise? How much from start to finish for a 5s Astral set of 3 units? Since you're bothering to put astral on it the affix needs to be at least Astral/statIV/AbilityIII/Flict/Noble.

>>169473951
You have to do that anyway with astral. Ext receptor boosts stat IV too, so astral+stat IV+flict+ability+noble is doable with that, or without the ability for 4s.

りりーぱだあいすき

>>169473951
http://pso2affix.seilent.net/#!/s=AC03.AB03.RZ01.AA04.UA01&1=VJ01.ZA01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01&2=VJ01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01.AA03&3=VJ01.ZA01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01&4=VJ01.ZA01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01&5=XB01.ZA01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01&r=AA04.FA03.SA01.UA01&o=A06.B07

So something like this?

>>169474770
For same slot? yes. Some people opt for spirita 4 over abi3, but it's personal preference.

My personal preference will probably opt for ability 3 over power4

>>169474903
Without the statIV I don't think I can really justify an affix like this. You're already cutting stats to get the extra defense. I think I would rather just include abi3 on a more traditional affix or even just shell out for 6s and get loads of extra atk.

>>169475220
If you're doing same slot stat 4 is a must. If you're upslotting, there's no shame in stat3.

>>169475415
What is the 'safe yolo upslot' 4 > 5 mentioned in the deleted post? Unless I'm missing something, the best that would do is bring the success up to 63% overall which is DANGER territory.

>>169472042
I'm not sure how you'd get that astra soul without killing yourself today, creating the catalyst is already bad enough with today's market.

Your worst problem isn't the astral itself
>Have to upslot lots of flict + catalyst to 5s
>God helps you if you do modulator, hope you have billions of meseta and 40% affixboost
>If you want a best outcome, you need a set of same-name units before affixing catalyst, rip your time
>Or you can go casual mode using vinculum/fever, better off with 150/9 fampai

Remember that unit is now LOCKED, you can't transfer astral efficiently like any other soulx2, which this is the true deal breaker of astral, you can't turn your unit into an efficient fodder after all that bullshit. Now if only SEGA allows you to recreate astral soul to another catalyst, but we know affixing is 2pro4u [the only hard modo content right now] and SEGA thinks this is good, carefully plan if you want to use astral or not.

>>169475853
It's a hard decision. The worst part is I can't quite conceptualize how strong +35 def and hp per unit is. I'm just guessing at how much it's worth it here. I'm pretty sure it is very very good, but I don't know for sure. I'm considering that just doing a 6s with abi3 is a better idea for the extra defense without sacrificing offensive stats and the ability to use the units as a fodder when it is time to replace them.

>>169475853
>you can't turn your unit into an efficient fodder after all that bullshit
I mean it still has all the other affixes, so it's still a good fodder. You would use a catalyst soul for anything past 5s anyway since soul receptors basically don't exist at that point, so losing the soul for 6s+ is normal.

>>169475585
I deleted that post to re-write it, but then accidentally refreshed the thread and lost it, and cbf re-writing it again. basically, 'safe yolo upslot' is using 4 catalysts and darkness soul for the base 60% rate before upslotting with a 40%/10% boost week, which is 86% at 4 > 5, and 83% at 5 > 6 (compared to yolo soul's 56% 4 > 5, and 55% 5 > 6.

Please buy my grind fodders

>>169476558
Unless you're a bajillionaire, the other affixes probably won't be that great if you're using astral. If you actually still have mod/flict/statIV on your astral unit you probably aren't that bothered by the high reaffix cost anyway.

>>169476227
Its like, a 5s unit with astral feels like 7s now.
If you're a FI, that astral soul can literally turn you into a permanent LB machine [using austere-union/tagami] with hp pool around 1450/1600 and high as fuck def with decent pp.

>>169476817
Unless you're affixing hp, even a full izane set with astral would only net you 1370 hp as a fihu male cast (highest hp) with the defaultl 5 points in hp up on the hu tree.

>>169476817
So from personal experience with Astral, you would recommend going with something like >>169474770 ?

I'm hesitant to sacrifice 75~ atk in the name of astral soul but with such a glowing review it is very tempting. Would probably end up with 1300~ health.

Does Matoi have the ability to absorb photons from Falzes like you do or is she simply strong?

>>169477061
Its good enough, but heads up -- the 1450/1600 is probably when you got TE deband or HP drink, refer to
>>169476817

From my personal experience, I do not recommend using astral on all 3 units, its very glowing shiny dank affix, but in reality it just conveniently giving you free 35def/35hp/2pp. If you want to test how good is this, you can really set a joke 4s with magatsu soul and similar def affix.

Remember that you will lost too much if you can't use that unit as your next fodder.

>>169477061
As someone who affixed hp/pp purely for a meme, the added hp/huge pp is something I actually really like. I just wish i'd done it on a good unit set instead of whitill units though.

Once you start affixing hp you actually start to appreciate the added survivability it gives, especially as something like FI. Even fo benefits from the added hp because there are definitely things that can oneshot you otherwise. At this point, I'm debating whether to affix:
Astral/spirita4/abi3/flict arma/noble power
Astral/power4/spirita4/flict arma/noble power
Astral/power3/spirita3/flict arma/noble power
or
Astral/spirita3/abi3/flict arma/noble power
on an izane set, because the survivability would be insane.

>>169476782
You will atleast have flict and stat IV. It's very easy to get that with astral, modulator is retarded.

>>169477676
The problem with max survivability builds like that is a similar problem to putting points in Iron Will. You need to be screwing up to get any benefit out of them. I'm not trying to meme you about ~getting hit~, I just think barring being a Fi main there's no way the lost atk/PP is made up by all that defense.

>>169477940
Good thing those units would specifically be for a fi main then, I guess?

I'm making some affixes that are a fair way better than that, but there aren't good enough units to warrant putting t hem on at this point.

>>169477940
PP doesn't even convert to readily available damage bonus.

>>169477663
I'll do some testing when I get the chance. I guess I would just do an astral or two and then 150/9 for the other piece(s). How many astrals do you prefer?

>>169477676
>Even fo benefits
Fo, Fi and to a lesser extend Gu are the only classes that really benefit because they play in melee range without good guard options/automate. Especially Fo sometimes has to get hit and not die to do damage, for instance during compounds. It's also not bad for bow Br since you have the same no automate/guard deal and being at range isn't exactly save on a lot of bosses either.

How does JB switch strike works? does it switch affix stat too?

>>169478573
>It's also not bad for bow Br since you have the same no automate/guard deal and being at range isn't exactly save on a lot of bosses either.
Sharp bomber has i-frames out the ass

>>169478529
Depends on your meseta I guess.
I'd do only 1 for money efficiency and that's for leg *12.

>>169478573
RA also benefits given the fact their strongest PA's lock them in place. Put bluntly though I've been able to beat things using hp/pp units that I couldn't with fairly up there raw attack (150/9) units, which in a way makes me feel like a shitter, but I AM a shitter so it works out. Regardless, I've made and bought thee remaining fodders for a new r and new t set, so I'm just waiting on the boost week to finish those.

>>169478754
But it also garbage you shouldn't use on actual bosses since it fucks with standing snipe and does far less damage than penetrate arrow anyway.

>>169478813
Please stop posting

>>169478813
Do you know how standing snipe works?

>>169478849
Are you denying that penetrate arrow does more damage than sharp bomber? Do you even play bow?

>>169478894
Yes, it kicks in after not moving for 1 second. Sharp bomber moves you with means after every shot you have to wait for 1 second before you can charge it again since it takes your state at the moment you start charging instead of when you release.

>>169478813
But you can make sharpy works with standing snipe.

>>169478914
At the expense of your entire pp bar, spamming penetrate after sharp bomber will give you the best possible damage in one combo, but no seriously, stop posting
>>169479004
You just use it again regardless of standing snipe you retard
Do you also wait in between end attracts?

>630 at boss crystal
I've 630'd more in the past month than I have in 2 years.

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>10000 years old

>>169479830
Enjoy being locked out of EQs in the future filthy gaijin.

>>169478573
Braver also benefits because nobody actually runs automate on braver, and driking mates ruins the gix pot, so healing guard and just reversal hp recover are your only main healing options, which work off of a % of your hp

>>169480956
plenty of bravers run automate, I don't know what you're smoking.

>>169481039
They do, but that's not what any good braver does.

>>169480956
Bitch please, Automate is why I main braver. Combined with Katana Combat, Iron Will, I'm fucking indestructible.

>>169481112
What is a good braver putting those points in? You have a lot of free points as Hu sub

>>169481120
Fuck yeah only 20 sec downtime between iron will and kc

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>>169481169
lel S-atk ofc
Muh 1% dmg!

>>169481169
S atk if you run full katana.

>>169481328
Do you also not take tree buffs?

>>169481169
All satk up. Before someone says something, that's 225 base satk. Lv17 shifta+active katana gear would put that at 579 extra satk. Add in shifta drink and it becomes 695. If you also took the tree attack boost it becomes 834 extra satk.

>>169481120
Sorry to say, but you're just kinda bad at braver then.

>>169481457
PA boost off PP drink is more damage than shifta drink.

>>169479040
>spamming penetrate after sharp bomber will give you the best possible damage in one combo
Not True for Br/Ra. Even if we assume you get into penetrate double hit range every time after your sharp bomber (which to be fair is doable on most fights), You're losing a 32.25% damage multiplier for 2-3 penetrate arrows to gain about half a penetrate arrow extra damage on your first shot (depending on how high you grinded your custom, it's 588 Power more than charged penetrate start at maximum merit, compared to 842 power per pen arrow). This is also not getting into the meme torrential arrow+charged pen start you can do that just does more damage if you have 210 (I think?) PP affixed, which wouldn't work with sharp bomber due to the longer windup and travel time.
>Do you also wait in between end attracts?
Yes, yes you do. What do you think people use sneak shooter/piercing shell for? You don't in some cases though, like when a boss will likely move/become invincible before you can finish the second EA, mother being an example.

>>169481457
>>169481169
Sorry, messed up my math pretty bad. Shifta+gear is 350, shifta+gear+drink or tree is 420

>>169481558
You're right, although you're often not going to be rolling for pa drink unless you're in an organized setting, although you probably aren't grabbing tree then either so shifta drink+tree doesn't really matter much i guess.

>>169481328
I don't think 420 attack is only 1% of your damage

>>169481457
225 is 30 points. You can easily take automate and then dump 16 points into S-ATK up, at which point you get 124 of those 225 S-ATK. So yeah, you're sacrificing literal invinciblity for 101 S-ATK, or less than 1% more damage.

>>169481813
>less than 1%
Hurr, I meant les than 3%. Anyway, point is it's not a lot. Though I personally use max S-ATK build anyway for higher numbers on my stat sheet.

>>169481328
>>169481670
225 atk is roughly 5% damage

>>169481813
>101 S-ATK, or less than 1% more damage.
Uh, what?

Also it's not just 101 satk. It's 189 satk difference when you consider shifta/gear/tree or drink. People really underestimate the difference buffs make.

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>tfw bow main
>tfw don't have to think about SATK on my br/hu

All I want from boost week are ray drops from PD. God I really hate doing these sheets.

>>169482025
It blows my mind how few people use team tree or stat food.

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Hey guys, I'm doing a character and after a lot of hours I'm finally done. I really love her and think she's cute but I don't know if people will like her. If you saw her, would you party with her?

>>169482025
Yeah and your total with those buffs once you factor in weapon element on katana braver will be far beyond 5k, depending on your affixes, which is why I corrected myself to say less than 3% (the better your affixes the worse stat ups are obviously).

>>169482379
What is wrong with you?

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>>169478636

>>169482403
>far beyond 5k
What the fuck are your affixes

>>169478636
All it does it make jet boots scale off s-atk instead of t-atk.

What would be a good and medium priced unit affix for all attacks Hp and Pp? I only have about 14 million meseta for all three. Or maybe 2 and save for one more.

>stand around lang in lobby
>she doesn't hug you

LIES

>>169481627
You honestly are a complete idiot and theorycrafter
Type-0 sharp bomber is three times stronger than a charged penetrate arrow (1742 vs 577), whatever you gain on standing snipe will not compensate for the difference unless you're getting a double headshot and even then it's questionable, the only reason to even use penetrate arrow over two sharp bombers is you're playing br/gu or going for a speed kill that will only take one banish, if somehow the hitboxes allow you
Torrential arrow is a meme as you said
As for your end attract comments, you use those to set up for a JA/standing snipe, not in between end attracts because that would be a gigantic waste of pp and I'm pretty sure it is lower or equal dps

>>169482403
>Yeah and your total with those buffs once you factor in weapon element on katana braver will be far beyond 5k
No you fucking won't. You'll be somewhere around 4.2-4.4k, depending on your affixes.

>>169483469
>>169482403
Actually I just noticed you mentioned element, nevermind, yeah you'll be a bit over 5k.

>>169483586
>>169482403
The damage from weapon element is irrelevant to raw damage calculation though

>>169483839
True, just wanted to correct my mistake in reading what he said. The whole "less than 3%" thing is wrong as hell, though.

>>169483154
>unless you're getting a double headshot
So you don't know that penetrate arrow can easily double hit if you hit at a certain range? Or are you pretending this is hard to do? Not doing this is basically like giving up a 100% damage multiplier on your penetrate arrows, so it's one of the basics you have to learn as bow Braver imo. Have you never wondered why people use pen arrow over master shot despite mastershot having higher power? Hell, have you never wondered why Br/Gu stands outside zero range advance range to do this? Also I'm not sure why it needs to be a headshot, we were talking about EQ Bosses where you'd just hit whatever is wb'd. Maybe you're misunderstanding me, for free field bosses you obviously just shoot banish and use a sharp bomber or two on the head or whatever to not waste PP on something that'll die anyway. I didn't mean you should never use sharp bomber at all, just not for BA combos against EQ bosses with an actual HP pool.

>everyone changes to the same class in PVP mode.
ruined.

>>169483839
>>169483972
Elaborate, how is over 800 extra ATK irrelevant to damage calculation?

>>169484286
Headshot was just a bad choice of words. Obviously you can't double hit at zero range advance distance due to how the hitbox works but that's all there is to it. Maybe you want to show me how to hit a double on box doubals or consistently on gryuzoras?
Penetrate arrow is a waste of time on any boss if you're playing Br/Ra, even EQ bosses, unless you know you won't get off more than one combo due to the rest of the mpa's dps being too high, you're confusing the playstyle with Br/Gu and even then you may want to use sharp bomber instead for some instances
I feel like you just haven't played bow since they added the sharp bomber craft, because otherwise you're just dense

>>169484493
It's not exactly irrelevant, it just comes in at a different stage in the calculation process than base and affixes do.

The damage formula is: ((base+affixes)/5*multipliers)+(weapon*(element+100)*random between 0.9 through 1.0/(5(elemental resist+100))*multipliers)+(temporary attack/5*multipliers)-(enemy def/5*multipliers)

Basically, weapon attack and element don't get calculated the same way that base and affixes do.

>>169482860
So I should still affix s-atk on JB if I'm using s-atk mag and units?

Anybody want to VH4SH1 harukotan only TA on ship 4? I know there's an elder coming up, but I don't really care all that much since nobody's online for me to get that sweet party exp mod from.

>>169485391
Yes

I just want to remind you all that pso2g is cancer. Thank you.

>>169486708
since you're posting here, you're part of it now.

I went to SH blocks for magatsu for easy exp and no one at all knows how to do this fight. Do people actually do this on XH now and SH people are legit new players? I've done three separate parties now full of new people and absolutely none of them knew how to to fight Magatsu.

>>169487790
yes
just fucking ask your team to lowman it, it's not even that hard to 4 run with 4 people

>>169488238
Why does pso2g assume that everyone is in a team with a full online roster 24 hours a day.

does boost week start after next maint?

>>169488493
>3 other people
>full roster
Join a team that's not dead? It's the second option from bottom up on visiphone.

>>169455369
it's not that bad. honestly not really that different from izane.
it's -SOMETHING-.

>>169455583
>austere
>implying invade units drop
funny.
>inb4 implication of buying that shit at the bullshit prices it goes for
I'll take enough wallet damage affixing shit as it is, thanks faggot.

also
>not wanting all three added ring skill slots

>>169487790
XH has better chance for 20m bow.

>>169488901
Izane has the same health bonus but the actual defensive stats shit on icksuki's.

Is there a way to permanently set your party status? I'm tired of forgetting to manually lock my parties every single time I log in only for some obnoxious autoword spammers with meme names joining my party.

>>169456461
the only major exception I can remember to it working on things that are already in the air all the time is rodos, but who even needs an extra shooting modifier on rodos?
maybe varder soma, too. that one I can see wanting the boost for.

but it's immaterial, because the skill is shit. practically anything else on GU's tree would be a better use of the points.

>>169470897
>using 13* factors
>on anything other than what they're attached to
RIP resources.

>>169472042
slap it on your ray weapons via their factor, forget it exists otherwise. far too much trouble.

>>169478573
but anooon, nobody ever gets hit! don't you know that? getting hit is for shitters, everyone else is intangible! : ^ )

>>169481627
>ignoring standing snipe
>ignoring two 15% damage multipliers
jesus christ stop talking about anything shooty that isn't GU. that you can exist in a threat that humps phrase weak's pathetic 2% multiplier is an amazing thing, but please, just fucking stop.

>>169489812
I have six fornis at +35 who are just waiting to be used a fodder. It's annoying as hell but it's not like you replace weapons that often.

>>169489198
Can't wait to see the price on it when weapon passes are no longer needed.

>>169490150
The worst and best possible outcome that SEGA decides to release raikou in sheet rewards.

>>169489812
I've been gathering a whole bunch of 13* for factors exclusively. They're taking up way too much storage space.

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>>169485254
What a confusing way to write that. I also don't think element damage is affected by variance but that doesn't matter for katana with 100% crit anyway. Turns out it's slightly more than 3% though instead of slightly less, still not a lot though and obviously becomes even less with better affixes, timed abilities etc. I think I got it right now since this seems to be about what psod gives me for my shitty alt's stats http://4rt.info/psod/?lFFm0

>>169489812
>ignoring standing snipe
What, the post you're quoting is literally arguing the opposite of that. Also holy shit you absolutely do need standing snipe on Gu/Ra, one of the main reasons why satellite aim is so good for damage and other PAs aside from IF0 aren't.

Is there a way have 100+ atk on 4s units without resorting to using something like Noble, elegant, etc? I need to get these *12 units im sick of using saiki and its ass defense

>>169491512
35soul
35atk
20flict
10fever/15muta2/15abiIII/modulator

>>169491512
Apprentice Soul + Pow3 + Modulator. Modulators are pretty cheap at low slots, and you could change it for some alter/flict and fever.

>spending 10x the meseta to get 20 more atk on your units
5s non-astral using master race

>>169491512
>saiki
>ass defensee
hate to break it to you anon, but uncrafted saiki has some of the best defensive values around, especially given it has 4/4/4 s/r/t resist per unit (vs union's 4/2/2, 2/4/2, and 2/2/4 per piece). Only 12* unit that has 4/4/4 resist after saiki is izane.

>>169492234
Still don't know what they were thinking when they created Saiki

>>169492234
Meh def though

>>169492341
It's not "I don't know what they were thinking" it's "why have they backed away from making units that are flat out better than it in 2-3 years".

>>169492234
But thats not what ares, kaede, and majorityt of heavenly use especially when it comes to solo PD

>>169492234
>Literally making shit up
Can't make this shit up. It has 4/4/0, not 4/4/4 and only 50 HP hidden stat with is absolutely trashcan tier. Saiki stats suck ass if you don't craft it, even full ray is just straight up better.

>>169492398
oh my bad, saiki didn't actually have tech resist, still.
>union
>320/320/320, total of 960/960/960 def with 8/8/8 resist

>saiki
>320/282/333, total of 960/846/999 def with 12/12/0 s/r/t resist, 24 ice resist

>izane
>361/340/340, total of 1083/1020/1020 def with 12/12/12 s/r/t resist, 18/12 lightning/light resist.

izane would be the first unit to truly btfo saiki if it weren't hp only.

>>169492767
literally who.

>>169492772
see above.

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Just gonna leave this here.

>>169492930
The gunner that allegedly got BTFO'd bight someone in NA and that Su/Gu that cleared solo PD in 4mins

>LQ completely dead
>UQ completely dead
The non-eq content was nice while it lasted, the whole few months we had.

Where can I find Ante for the bingo card?

>>169492930
You are pretending Hp isn't a defense stat, which is stupid considering you get far more survivability out of HP than these puny resists. 12% resist is about a 13.6% effective HP boost, which if we pretend you had 1k HP (for simplicity, if you haven't affixed HP it's gonna be less with just saiki) would be equal to 136 HP. for 8% it's 8.7% EHP, so 87 HP (if we pretend you somehow only have 1k HP with those units too). In other words, the resist are effectively the same as having 49 extra HP against the damage types they affect (ice isn't relevant). To get this you're losing 75 HP, 15 ATK,2 PP and 3 extra L ring slots, defense is effectively the same. needless to say, losing 75 HP to gain 49 EHP for striking and ranged and lose 87 EHP against tech is not a good trade even if defense is all you care about.

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lol
best episode 4 wins again

just bumping to keep your ded thred dedgayme alive

>>169493917
Say that to my face on Nico Nico Douga and not on shitty gaijin sites and see what happens.

Will you be coming back for EP5?

I miss closet

>>169493701
Casino near the roulette, he's a prize counter.

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>>169493917
I don't give a flying fuck about a bird's opinion.

Izane leg would be better than Union?

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>>169437082
jokes on you sucker, rappies
dont
die

>>169484456
pso has many battle modes and also a free battle mode where you can use your own equips, lol the ""sequel"" cant even do that lol

>>169494036
the only one nico nico'ing here is me.
coming back to complain for sure ^^

>>169495084
Only birds can fly and fuck, so therefore your'are giving a birds opinion.

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Post Rappy abuse.

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besides the fucking story being complete anus, i love what they did with most classes by adding rings, pa crafts etc.

>>169498486
>pa crafts
except for the part where they're either fucking useless or essential
no such thing as sidegrades apparently except for techs

>>169500405
Sidegrade PA crafts would be the dumbest shit ever, since most of them is aiming to make almost useless PAs good.

>>169500405
They're something new to play with which isn't something we get a lot of nowadays.

>>169495821
I feel like you have your nostalgia goggles on too tight. PSO1 was fun but it is far too dated at this point. A real shame PSO2 squandered the fun battle system that keeps me hooked.

>>169500405
Strike Gust is a rather good sidegrade. Nowhere near essential, but it's useful.

>>169501931
It really is good? People have been telling me otherwise, I got fucking lied to

Will 12* battle mode units btfo the rest or will it end up like ideal?
nothing against those but i have trouble actually remembering anyone that used them and did not had the vanilla affixes

>>169504091
depends, I used it a good while then came back to original, I prefer original, as you can see it's down to personal preference

>>169501931
does justice crow and starling fall have uses? i realllly like using them

>>169504378
Starling fall has i-frames out the ass so it's a good defensive skill if you don't want to waste photon blades with your weapon action. It's also pretty good damage if you're inside the enemy hitbox. Justice crow I can't imagine being useful outside of pso2es.

>>169504112
The battle mode units are just fodder. They aren't even 12*, just generics that come with Receptors.

>>169504091
Personally I don't use it, but moving around is nice, no charge time, and I believe it has wider range so it's good for mobbing. Though it starts out weaker and takes a little time for it to do max damage per tick. It also continually raises you so there's that. It does have its uses.
>>169504378
Don't use them, but starling fall is has quite a lot of i-frames, so it's nice for an emergency escape, since you gain some air too, nice against double's cars. Crow is pretty bad

>>169505864
There will be 12* units (read the post on bumped), there will also be Vraolets that have receptors for some of the factor affixes like phrase and the gix ones, 4s and 6s from what we have seen.

>>169504112
We don't know yet, but it's possible they end up like ideal in that they're only really good if used together with the weapon. People would be really upset if a unit set is released that is better than union and can only be gotten by playing a shitty minigame I'd imagine, which is why I doubt that it'll be the best or anything like that. But of course, with SEGA you never know.

>playing pso2 trash instead of ff14 or bdo

why torture yourself?

everyone of note is playing those games now

>>169506838
>playing
Stopped reading there.

>>169504091
having no charge time and going straight into super armor is a blessing and lets you save massive hunter for PBF only. Being able to move around is good too. This makes it the most ideal for fighting more aggressive bosses like the stuff in ultimate.
It doesn't start off as strong as uncrafted, however something people overlook is that once it fully powers up the shift action does a nice chunk of damage to sorta make up for it. With the lack of charge time and jet boots escape, you can treat it as some sort of counter attack while staying in mid-air.
I'm not sure how the DPS looks, but I perform a lot better with the craft and still down bosses just as fast or faster.

>>169506045
>>169504219
>>169507528
I might have to try using the crafted version again, last time I did it just felt unnecessary and weaker since I mostly use strike when rapid boost is up, making the charge nearly negligible.

>>169469093
>>169469512
whitill is trash for hp and defense no?
just a 12* saiki for people to eat 1k damage hits from XH bosses or mobs

>>169509969
It's not that big of a difference you Goldog shitter

13* ticket to choose any 13* you want when? would pick orbit GS in a heartbeat

why do people say fo is expensive to gear when i need to get and upgrade 4 different weapons and have 200+ pp just to be able to play bow at all?
buying and upgrading a raikou alone is already 50m, you could affix a rainbow set of rods for that

>>169510885
What the fuck are you doing with a raikou that it costs you 50m?

>>169511176
25m for the bow, 20m on average for grinding it, another 5m for simple PP affixes

>>169510885
getting 200 pp on certain sets aint easy

>>169511381
>20m for grinding
You are doing something horribly wrong if its costing you that much to grind an OT 12*

>>169511381
>20m on average for grinding it
12*s don't cost even fucking close to that much to grind

Finally upgraded from Saiki to 150/9 Austere, ask me anything

>>169510885
Do you really need them at all?
I've been doing only gyx bow and mainly using it to S-rank PD with less stress than other class. Although I use austere/union with expensive affixes.

>>169511381
Jesus what ship are you on? 20m for grinding an OT 12* is retarded though, you're doing it wrong.

>>169511767
Raikou is absolutely essential, cutting 18% from your Rapid Shot CD is huge. You lose out on a lot of damage if you don't have one.
Gix is one of the worst 13*s, use some of those million stones you probably have in storage to get an Orbit Bow and invest into a Raikou. You'll never want to go back.

While we are on bows, did they mention what turbulas' weaponoid potential is? Is there a slight chance that'll be raikou-lite?

Rate my affix
http://pso2affix.seilent.net/#!/s=AA04.RA21.ZC01.ZD01&1=SB01.TB01.ZC01.ZD01&2=AA04.RP25.ZC01.ZD01&3=TB01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01&4=UA01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01&5=XB01.ZB01.ZC01.ZD01&r=SH10.UA01.TB01.AA04&o=A06

>>169512392
Only chances I can think is SEGA giving everyone a middle finger and do this instead
>>169490393

>>169512887
They don't care enough about bows to do that. Ever since the CT Banish nerf Bow Bravers have been on their shitlist.

>>169512872
Too much pp

>>169512872
Vinc is garbage, if you want to be cheap and do something like that affix I'd replace it with a Fever or Spirita IV.
I'd also look into upslotting to 5s and throwing in a Spirita Boost. Only costs 500k for the catalyst and gets you an extra 5PP.

>>169513178
>What is sharp bomber meme.
Doesn't sound like it pal.

So if Gyx is terrible what bow am I supposed to use for damage? Astra? Doesn't seem much better with how much attack you lose even if you weapon swap frequently

has jps ever bothered to try extracting models from pso2? are the gene and quna models in mmd just made from scratch?

>>169513898
Gyx is not even farmable at this point, get an Astra.
You're going to do fine in actual mpa and stuff without raikou, but some autistic guy here will tell you otherwise.

>>169513187
Is such a thing even possible?
>>169513429
Going to 5s quadruples the price of Pow4 fodders though. Maybe I'm cheap, but that's a bit stupid if I'm sticking with Vinc.

returning person, the other day someone gave me some great recommendations for which Skill rings to get as Hu/Fi and I copied it down but I lost it.

anyone want to remind me? which skill rings should I focus on getting for partizan hu/fi?

>>169516174
step JA

>>169516174
Step JA Combo ring / Hunter gear save ring
R ring probably perfect keeper strike

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memes

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>>169519361
A squad of powerful space birds?

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Anyone able to run the game from the batch file and still have item translations?
I put the ddraw.dll in my bin folder but nothing happens, I tried using the toggle keys but it just seems to not be working.
And I know tweaker deletes it and I haven't ran tweaker all day.
Would love to abandon AIDS and his twerker if at all possible

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>>169519361
funni rappi memi

>>169519361
>Mother didn't do final dank cube spawn
>No shitter died
Okay I guess.

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>>169519361
OH needs more robots

Also remove rappies

>>169520140
Needs less lolis

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>>169519361
Rappies are becoming extinct.

>>169520458
Good. Fornises are worth more than rappies.

Which is better for ice techs, rod or talis?

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>>169519361
phase 3 only lasted a few seconds

>>169520773
cool.

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Is there actually maintenance going on right now? Both bumped.org and the PSO2 Tweaker say that the servers are online, but for some reason my game has been saying there's maintenance going on. After not playing for about two years, I just completely reinstalled the game with the tweaker. Maybe there's some setting I need to change?

I also tried logging on about 14 hours ago, and it also said there was maintenance going on when bumped said the servers were online.

>>169521352
Are you in Southeast Asia?

>>169521352

nope, I'm online

>>169521409
I'm in the midwest United States

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>>169519361

>>169522042
post more of your character pls

>>169520563
Ice is mainly illbarta memes so you want a talis for it

I got it to work now! It was an issue with the tweaker's settings.

And as someone coming back after a long time, how is the Summoner class? And what skills/subclass would you guys recommend for it? Since it sounds like it could be pretty fun.

>>169522841
Summoner is arguably the best class in the game for a lot of stuff, although it requires a specific setup of pets. Most people run Su/Fi or Su/Br for general stuff, and Su/Gu for raid bosses if you think you can set it up.

>2017
>the same people still doing TA
don't they ever get bored of this game

>>169523154
>2017
>the same people still speedrunning X
dont they ever get bored of these games

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really want a spear camo that actually looks like a spear besides gae bolg and the ribbon one but this just looks like trash in my opinion

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>>169496536

>>169527679
Those aren't rappies.

>>169527446
typical collab trash

>>169527962
Oh, my mistake.

Anyone know anything about >>169519657 ?

uhh, what's a quick damage PA for swords.

I guess your main output is still over end, is the best quick PA twister fall?

>>169529476
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>>169529476
stun coincido

>>169530381

seriously, this is better output than twister fall? Alright, easy enough then

>>169531264
if you actually get the jg off yes

>>169531402

what does just guard have to do with it being good

>>169531723
It's a special PA, you can guard during it and if you don't fuck it up it does a lot more damage

>>169531723

If you JG while you're using it, and successfully block an enemy's attack during it, it deals double(?) damage for the rest of the attack.

It's really slow though. Only the last two hits deal significant damage.

>>169531957
>It's really slow though
Yeah, if you haven't JG'd yet

>>169529476
>I guess your main output is still over end
OE is terrible for anything that doesn't involve precasting it when a boss is invincible in order to get the last hit off right away. Twister fall is also pretty garbage dps, especially type-0.

>>169532931
>Twister fall is also pretty garbage dps, especially type-0.
Stop posting

>>169533014
Regular twister fall good DPS IF you can get all the hits off, which doesn't happen in most situations. Type-0 is just garbage no matter what. The best it can do is be almost identical to uncrafted but cost more pp.

>>169529476
Sonic arrow is fast as hell and can do fairly good damage considering its speed. It's a big pp hog though.

>>169533165

so what are my go-to attacks as hunter, you guys are confusing me a bit. A lot of stuff is new.

I will use ignition parry and try to jg during it, any other tips? should I keep this sacrifice bite type-0 up all the time?

>>169533957
Yeah, keep sacrifice bite up at all times.

Sonic arrow is great for building gear, pretty much instant if you throw it at like 2 enemies. Guilty break is amazing for closing gaps between you and enemies as long as you have full gear. Nova strike is your default mobbing AoE PA. Rising edge is good dps against bosses when no situational PA would work. Like I said overend is good if you precast it while a boss is invincible or about to expose a weakpoint, but that's about it. Ride slasher is great if you're able to get all 4 hits off on a boss's weakpoint. I'm probably forgetting/missing something but that's a general rundown of the sword pas.

>>169533165
>which doesn't happen in most situations.
wat

>>169534950
The shockwave is about half of the attack's damage, and that hits behind the vast majority of weakpoints, meaning only part of the attack lands.

http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11rGbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIo0jdodBIb000000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000IoI2iN2SGAIkGAGKIkGA000000fdBdAidftAGFqBIkIkGAJIcAIn000007bIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j

Will this work for a support techer or is it retarded?

>>169534409

sweet, will use this. sounds like you know what you're talking about so on a build related note for hunter:

how many points do I want in charge parry? and does step advance apply from my subclass, if I wanted to add a couple points to it in fighter? or could anyone just link some decent updated hunter builds

>>169536263
>Te/Fo
Yeah, don't do that for support techer. If you have 3 or more marons laying around Te/Su is possibly a better option.