/fog/ Fallout General

Obshillians and Bethesdrones go and die.

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First for really cute waifus!

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Daily reminder that Bethdrones are the lowest forms of human life in the galaxy.

>>169414105
I had no idea people took super mutants for waifus. I thought they were asexual.

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>>169414189
My waifu is sexual!

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>>169414167
Bethdrones don't actually exist. Nobody's that stupid. This is the work of shitposters.

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>>169414337
>dat sixpack
>dem titties

Drop those broad shoulders and i would fuck her in a heartbeat.

>i fucked worse i real life

>>169414771
T H I C C

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>>169414771
>Bethesda game protags have awfuly low carry weight
>merchants have small amount of cash on them ( to the point that special one of the kind bobblehead adds 100 caps for them )
>dude holy shit, Skyrim/Fallout 4 has like 200 hours of gameplay !!!1111

Well fucking DUH.

>>169414503
>Bethdrones don't actually exist

speak for yourself.

>Bethesda
>Todd "The Man" Howard
>Trust
>It works
>Climbable mountains

need i say more?

Fallout 4 is a good video game.

>>169415606
>Bethesda game protags have awfuly low carry weight
what?

Bethesda games have some of the most insanely generous carry weights of any RPG

>>169416561
how DARE you have a contrary opinion

>>169416712
It is a good video game that I enjoy in my recreational time.

>>169416656
In F4 at 10 STR you have 300 carry weight, its not that much with all this junk you have to lug around.

Its just so to add padding to the game.

>>169416865
>s not that much with all this junk you have to lug around.
You are doing something wrong because i rarely have my carry weight go over 200, even after carrying a whole bunch of shit

>>169416865

Are you fucking serious? 300 carry weight is like 20 assault rifles or almost 10 missile launchers. And that's before you admit things like money, quest items, misc items, and ammo don't take up ANY weight and thus NO inventory space unless you're playing on an esoteric survival mode.

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>>169416340
That mountain where jacobstown is at
You can't climb to the top of that shit
Defend this obsidiots

>>169417074
Ignore him. He's one of those people that thinks he's supposed to be able to carry every item in the game.

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>tfw your friend pronounces Yao Guai 'yo guy'
>EEEHHH DERS A FACKIN YO GUY OVAH DER. JAYSUS CHRIST

>>169417191
I would agree with you if grabbing things for crafting didn't take up so much of it.

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>>169412919
Someone with fucking reason and logic on this /Fog/

but the the shittards defending obsidian here and inciting flames are simply /v/irgins and NMA fags

>>169417191
>>169417074

>ammo
>aid
>armour
>weapons
>food and water
>junk for settlement building

300 is small as fuck and that is at STR 10.

There is a reason why unlimited carry weight mods are so popular with Bugfesta games.

>>169417525
>ammo
>aid
Ammo has no weight, and even stacks of like 30+ of drugs barely weight over 1.

>armour
>weapons
My total carry weight of armor + weapons is less then 60.

>food and water
>junk for settlement building
Food and water is pointless unless you are on hardcore mode, and settlement building shit can easily be deposited rapidly at settlements which are all over the map.


Sounds like you have a serious case of needing to get gud

>>169417884
>Sounds like you have a serious case of needing to get gud

Sounds like you have a serious case of needing to ditch babby mode and play as intended on survival

>>169417884
ammo has weight in the updated survival mode

>reeeee I can only hold 300 pounds casually like it's nothing and that's without making a single attempt at using the pocketed or deep pocketed mods that go on every bit of armour except the helmet
>reeee BETHESDA won't let me carry 409 toasters reeeeeeeeee

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Say something nice to Diva, she is quite shy

>>169418235
>this triggers Bethdrone

>>169417989
> and play as intended
This is a hilariously retarded argument to make.

The game was not indented to be played on survival, if it was, it would have been the default mode.

>>169418360
>RPG about post apo survival is not meant to be played on survival mode

Sure thing buddy.

Its not default because Beth babbies would throw tantrum and Todd would lose mucho sheckles.

>>169418354
>disagreeing with my autistic sperging means you're a bethesdrone reee

>>169418285
nice horns, bby

>>169418285
That's a cute deathclaw

How big is her feminine penis?

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>>169418525

>>169418598
Is this a picture for rad roaches?

>>169418489
>RPG about post apo survival
Except Fallout is nothing of the sort.

Fallout is a post post apocolyptic game about humanity rebuilding.

Which is why survival mechanics were not a focus of Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, or 3, and merely a secondary feature of NV and 4.

You're so full of shit its hilarious

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>>169415310
>>169415606

Any huge mods come out recently that I should know about? Something that will refresh the game a bit?

Looking to play melee survival.

>>169419119
Cool story bethdrone.
Got any more fairy tales ?

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>>169418598
>>169418703
The artist did one for each season.

>>169419635
>Cool story bethdrone.
>Bashing on Fallout 4, and pointing out how its different from Fallout 1/2/Tactics makes me a bethesdrone
Man, the trolls aren't even trying today.

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QUICK /FOG/

Give me your must-have mods for Fallout 4, right now!

>>169420229
Nah that's just /v/ they'll get tired and go back eventually.

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>Its a "retarded Bethdrone pretends not to be retarded Bethdrone" episode.

>>169419193
>Vault - Tec
>not Vault - T H I C C

Slightly dissapointed

>>169420435
-Unofficial Fallout 4 patch
-Beantown Interiors
-Atomic Radio + Tales from The Commonwealth
-1950's feminine outfits
-Vault-Tec workshop overhaul

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>>169420435
Modern Firearms + MF Craftable vests.
F4SS
Space Marines Armour
CBBE
Slooty Vault Suit

>>169420435
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13945/?

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How do I make the CBBE shape work with every outfit in the game?

I know there is this bodyslide mod but it's not as straightforward as I expected it to be.

>>169416340
thats literally all sarcasm you autist

>>169420928
There's tutorials for this on the bodyslide page or youtube anon-kun.

>>169420435
Start Me Up
Basement Living
Custom Combat Armor
Beast Master
Do It Yourshelf
Automatron EyeBot Companions

>>169421007

Thanks, anon~chan, I'll look it up!

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>>169420960
>he doesn't /getit/

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Nice Nora>Nice Nate
Aggressive Nora>aggressive Nate
Sarcastic Nate>Sarcastic Nora

Sarcastic Nate>>>>>>>the rest

>>169421216
Forgot
> Glowing Animals Emit Light
>This was attempted in NV
>Required weird scripts
>Caused the game to dip down to 1 fps before crashing if you even looked in the direction of Searchlight
>In 4 you literally just attach a light source to the creature
With all this talk of 4FSE being shit, I have to wonder what functions people are looking for if shit like that doesn't even need a script anymore.

>>169417525
Don't carry 700 bullets or 1000 stimpacks or 30 deathclaw steaks or armour that isn't lightweight or pocketed or more than 3 weapons (4 if I'm generous) and don't upgrade them with the heaviest possible parts just because you can and use lone wanderer or a companion and quit whining and download the salvage beacons mod.

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>>169421605
enhanced camera when

WHAT IF THERE WAS A PLACE WITH ALL THE ZIP OF NUKA COLA?

>>169421808
I'm sorry but a pistol shouldn't weigh 10lb and a rifle shouldn't weigh 20.
2-4 for a pistol
6-9 for a rifle/shotgun
13-20 for an MG like the assault rifle
20+ for things like miniguns, rocket launchers and the like

>>169422495
Wouldn't that be the cheer cheer cheeriest place in all the world?

>>169421808
>Don't carry 700 bullets
I would if only it didn't took 50 bullets to kill standard raider.

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>enemies eventually start getting so tough I have to dump multiple mags in them to put them down

It's starting to get fucking ridiculous. Isn't there a mod or something that makes combat quick and deadly for both me and the enemies?

>>169422747
This
bullet sponges are hell

>>169422794
>It's starting to get fucking ridiculous. Isn't there a mod or something that makes combat quick and deadly for both me and the enemies?

Modern Firearms.

>inb4 muh anti-tacticool sperging - no one cares about your opinion

>>169422794
Get fucking good.

I'm level 130+, with a fully modded plasma rifle, and kill basically everything in a second

>>169422884
He'll need to make sure he downloads the Cheetos mod as well then.

>>169422996
Mandatory for all Modern Firearms users

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1464/?

>>169423056
>>169422996
Protip : no one cares about your autistic screeching.
Go be faggots somewhere else.

>>169423056
>The Doritos bag doesn't have a scope or use .50 ammo

Doubt they'd be interested.

>>169423198
>autistic screeching intensifies

>>169423056
>isn't doritodew.tm officially licensed tm

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Why isn't the FO4 mod community as productive as the ones from Skyrim, NV, etc?

What happened?

>>169422884
That requires me to rethink all my guns, with me having over 60 other gun mods. I was looking more for something that just plain cuts down on all the hitpoints.

>>169423198
>people are making fun of me so they must be really upset
>proceeds to throw a fit

lmao
You're so quick to anger in every thread.
I know it's you purple HUD fuckboy

>>169423530
F4 only has 600 or so mods less than NV and more downloads so that's wrong.

No Fallout game will ever have the mod support Skyrim has.

>>169423530
>Why isn't the FO4 mod community as productive as the ones from Skyrim, NV, etc?
I wonder where people get this retarded idea from

Fallout 4 has been out for slightly over a year, and in that time it has gotten

-102% the number of mod downloads
-96% the number of mods

as NV has in all of its 6+ years.

Fallout 4's modding community has been MANY times more productive then NVs, by like 6 fold.

>>169423597
>I know it's you purple HUD fuckboy>>
Its violet you colourblind faggot.
Still mad about it i see.


>>169423580
Survival mode settings mod and up the damage ?

>>169424052
Give me a PO box address so that I can send you a how to guide on insulting people.

All you ever do is say people are mad and it makes you seem like you have brain damage.
Your edgy mods of course further substantiating that claim.

>>169423530
The Fallout modding communities combined can't compare to the TES community.

>>169423684
This, I was looking a hair mods then looked at the Oblivion nexus and I don't think there's a single mod that wasn't ported from those, even if we're talking about the ones on 4's nexus. If a mod involves a mesh, doesn't look like complete shit and wasn't obviously nifskoped, it was probably ported from a TES game's mod. The result is of course that we don't get any of the good looking armors because they don't fit thematically. Even less so than the generic slutty armor ports.

Yeah I'm a bit mad.

F4 question

I have long load times when going from an interior location to an exterior location only, and under specific enough conditions that it has to be a bug. Also on an SSD. Load times are 60-90 seconds and repeatable under the right conditions:

If I fast travel to an exterior location, even from within an interior location like the railroad, it loads instantly.
If I load a game already outside, it loads instantly.
If I load a game inside and go outside, it loads instantly.

Only when I have already been outside, go inside, then return outside do I get the long load time, but it always occurs in this case.

Disabling autosaves doesn't help, nor does keeping the number of save files at a minimum.

>>169423773
Because it feels like there are very few Big mods. And a lot of single thing mods, a new weapon, armor, bodyshape, all thing all beth type games have. What I want is a mod that over hauls all factions equipment, rebalances vanilla gear, adds DT to some armor, so on and so forth, all in 1-3 mods.

>>169424236
Its hard to insult you more than your parents who spawned you unto this world.

Keep sperging out, i really enjoy that.

>>169424654

big mods like that are shit tbqh

>>169424662
See, you did it again.
It's pretty embarrassing my dog.

If you don't up your insult game I won't let you play Call of Duty while I fuck your butt anymore.

>>169424654
>>169423684
>>169423773
>>169423530
There is also the fact that Bethesda did all the major mods from Fo3/NV as offical game content, meaning modders have far less "big stuff" to do

-Settlement building is Feng Shui, Real Time Settler, Settlement Defense, Settlement Raiding, and all home base mods rolled into one

-Power Armor got a massive upgrade, its own UI, and many in-game modifications, making PA mods dead

-Companions now interact and make comments on basically everything you do, taking their connection to the rest of the game much further then even modded companions did.

-Weapon modding is on a scale far greater then even mods like WMX

-Fallout 4 has more base creatures, and more creature variants, then any past Fallout game, making "new creature" mods less of a priority

-Automatron did RobCo certified, and took it to 11

-The workshop DLC added a shit ton of Fo3/NV mods, as well as features people said were missing from the settlement system and had made mods for Fallout 4 to add, killing all those mods from Fo3/NV/4.

Cement buildings, traps, arenas, craftable weapons/armor/ammo/clothing/food, decontamination arches, new high yield power sources, a terminal to track companions/settler job assignments, SPECIAL boosting items, new items that greatly enhance settlement happiness levels, clean versions of many settlement items, and more, which killed all settlement mods beyond "ADD MOAR ITEMS!" mods.

Honestly, Bethesda left very little for modders to actually do for Fallout 4 besides nudes and lewds, and the typical "more weapons/armors" mods, as well as the infrequent good quest mod

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>>169424879
>he is still responding

Sweet sweet fag tears.

>>169424654
>adds DT to some armor
Fallout 4's DR damage system already uses a combination of DR and DT to form a weird threshold based armor system.

>>169424765
I would be willing to settle for 1 semi lore friendly weapon pack, 1 full vanilla rebalance especially weight of weapons and adds a bit of DT for things like power armor, an one that over hauls the factions equipment preferably using mod 2.

>>169425272
I'm going to kiss you on the mouth forcefully against your will and hide all of your airsoft guns your mother bought you

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>>169425219
>Honestly, Bethesda left very little for modders to actually do for Fallout 4 besides nudes and lewds, and the typical "more weapons/armors" mods, as well as the infrequent good quest mod>>

Shame you cant fix plot holes with mods..

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Well that's fucking useful.

NV mods that arent super well known?

Looking for side shit to do

>>169425473
Good thing there aren't any real plot holes outside of ones imagined by NMA and /v/

>>169425501
WTF, doors are destructible ??

>>169425415
Link or can you explain it more because I thought they made DT decided they did not like it and just went back to strait DR.

>>169424765

Some are, but some are great.

Just look at those Immersive Armor/Weapons mod for Skyrim.

They are amazing.

Yet, in FO4, all we have is this one mod with this one weapon that will crash your game from time to time.

>>169425646
I'll take "Shit Bethdrones believe" for 500 $.

>>169425685
The DR system in Fallout 4 uses this weird system of % thats honestly hard to explain. It's not like Fallout 3, or Skyrim DR though

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_Resistance#Fallout_4

Damage resistance returns in Fallout 4. However, the stat is no longer a 1-1 relationship with actual % damage reduced, as its value can be in excess of 1000 on certain models of power armor.

Instead, the amount of damage reduction the player character gets out of the damage resistance is actually based on how much potential weapon damage is coming in; unlike previous games, net damage reduction is based on a ratio between the potential weapon damage done and the damage resistance, with diminishing returns for high damage resistance.

The amount of damage reduced by damage resistance climbs very quickly until damage resistance is about half of the potential weapon damage, after which diminishing returns means you get less and less damage reduction per point of damage resistance. Notably, if damage resistance is exactly equal to the potential weapon damage done, then exactly half of the damage is negated. In other words, if you have 50 ballistic damage resistance and are shot by an enemy doing 50 ballistic damage, then you'll receive 25 damage.

Note that the most important factor is the ratio between damage resistance and potential weapon damage:

>>169425646
>Good thing there aren't any real plot holes outside of ones imagined by NMA and /v/
>dumb shit with the ghoulified fridge kid
>dumb shit with contradictory t60 power armor
>tesla t60 armor
>x-01 paintjob to jab at the moonclave memers

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>>169425501

>people playing with Crosshairs on

>>169425937
The upshot is that unlike previous games, it is very hard to get to the point where enemy damage is reduced to the range of ~20% or less. In addition, because the ratio between damage resistance and weapon damage is so important and because damage reduction grows very quickly at first for low values of the ratio, a higher damage resistance pays off mostly because it gives you better damage reduction against more-damaging attacks, not necessarily because it gives you better damage reduction against the same, weaker attack as before.

In other words, going from 20 to 40 damage resistance will only further reduce the damage done from a 10-damage shot by about ~12% (~61% to ~69% damage reduction), but it will dramatically boost your damage reduction against a 100-damage grenade by about 23% (~10% to ~30% damage reduction). However, significant mitigation against such high damage is harder to achieve, since it is harder to get enough damage resistance to generate an appreciably high resistance-to-damage ratio. In otherwords, getting a 5-1 ratio is easy against a 20 damage shot, but very difficult (essentially limited to power armor) against a 100 damage grenade.

Is damage in FO4 fixed or is there a roll with every bullet you fire?

>>169425815
How do we reduce the variety of weapons and act like its ok because of weapon mods?

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>>169425219

>mfw Todd was listening and watching us the whole time

I l-love you, Todd!

>>169425972
None of these are plotholes.

>>169425650
Probably this mod:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21521/?

>>169426114
Because it doesn't matter if you have 6 shotguns that act differently, but can't be modded in any significant way, or one shotgun that can act 6 different ways depending on how you mod it

6 =6 either way

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>>169425650
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21521/?

With mods they are.

>>169425973
Only really use the crosshairs for shotguns. Because I've got mods that add like.. 4 different shotguns, and they've all got different spread.

>install fnvlodgen
>load times to 60 secs with a decent rig
>doesnt fucking work

i dont see any noticiable difference
what the fuck is the point of this mod?

>>169426348

I agree that the current system is better, since the last one were just different gun models doing the exact same thing but with a bit difference in their status.

Still, I wish there were more than 3 actual weapon mods which get more damage with time.

>>169426348
No
I'm sorry but that works with things like the double barrel to sawed off but not with thing like combining the hunting rifle/sniper rifle/.50 cal those should be 3 different weapons same with the 10mm pistol/smg and the assault rifle/ LMG.

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>>169425646
>kid in the fridge
>Kellog refering to "Old Man" in his memories before Shaun actually could get old
>Kellog being the same age despite Shaun kidnapping taking place some 80 years ago
>Kellog killing SS spouse
>Kidnapping Shaun instead of someone from hundreds of other vaulters
>entire reason why Institute fucks around with Synths ( for Evul )
>Vault Tec guy still alive 200 years after the war
>Nick Arch nemesis hides 20 meters from a place where he killed the girl
>people in hellish post apo wasteland somehow have no other problems with life and can organize to defend synths rights ( entire reason why Railroad existence )
>anything that deals with Institute teleporting synths, having deactivation codes etc

And shitload of others.

>>169426836
>entire reason why Railroad exists *

Fuck im tired.

>>169426836

not a plot hole
not shaun
cybernetics
not a plot hole
not a plot hole
its explained
not a plot hole
this is dumb
this is dumb
not a plot hole

>>169426980
>not a plot hole
>throwing away a chunk of F1 storyline and rendering it moot
>contradicting yourself in your own game ( Ghoul settlers USE FOOD )
>not a plot hole


>cybernetics
wizard did it bro.

Keep telling yourself that.

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>So, the great clockwork dick is stumped, huh?
>It's 'synth detective', jackass.

>>169426836
>Kellog refering to "Old Man" in his memories before Shaun actually could get old
How is that a plot hole when he was talking about the previous director.

>Kellog being the same age despite Shaun kidnapping taking place some 80 years ago
Hes not the same age, hes kept alive via cybernetics.

>Kellog killing SS spouse
Again, how is that a plot hole by any means? Kellogg is a ruthless dick who kills people for shits and giggles.

>Kidnapping Shaun instead of someone from hundreds of other vaulters
There were no other accessible vault in the region that had people living in them. And Shaun had the most related DNA in the Vault with him(due to both of his parents being there)

>entire reason why Institute fucks around with Synths ( for Evul )
Actually, they do it to create the perfect robotic workforce capable or working without any human oversight thus freeing mankind to spend 100% of its time bettering itself.

>Vault Tec guy still alive 200 years after the war
Hes a ghoul.... not a plot hole

>Nick Arch nemesis hides 20 meters from a place where he killed the girl
Under a base he owned, who would have figured he would assume that was a safe place to build his bunker

>people in hellish post apo wasteland somehow have no other problems with life and can organize to defend synths rights ( entire reason why Railroad existence )
Except its not that hellish as farm, fresh water, and trade all up and down the coast are common

>anything that deals with Institute teleporting synths, having deactivation codes etc
Such as what specifically?

Nothing you listed is by any definition a plot hole.

>kid in the fridge
Entirely consistent with Fallout 3 which showed ghouls surviving in areas locked since the war with no food.

I honestly wonder if you know what the term plot hole means

>>169427175
>>throwing away a chunk of F1 storyline and rendering it moot
Non-Bethesda Fallout is non-canon.

>>169427175
>throwing away a chunk of F1 storyline and rendering it moot
Not even him, but it does literally no such thing.

>>169426836
>>Nick Arch nemesis hides 20 meters from a place where he killed the girl
This is probably more related to FO4's burning desire to have a location every 5 steps.
Real estate is tight when Todd rents out 98% of the map.

>skeletons and burned books strewn everywhere
>in places where people are fucking using and living
Does Todd think people don't tidy their living spaces? Do the other Bethesda employees have to sneak the janitor into his office every night when he's not looking?

>>169426196
>X-01 PA with a special paint job inside a locked case that was placed there pre-war
>Bethesda themselves state that X-01 is post-war
Even if you accept the explanations for the other shit, I've yet to hear one for this.

>>169426510
To add LOD to mods that add things that are marked visible from distance, but don't include LOD. Alternatively for those mod authors to make LOD. Also did you get the LOD Additions and Improvements? There's a handful of shit that just didn't have LOD before.

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>>169428003

>he doesn't keep skeletons in his closet

>>169428003
God forbid the wasteland be tidied up, Manson wouldn't be able to mention the scorched earth and bones that litter the wasteland.

>>169428003
Sounds like their skeleton placement has really rattled you.

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>>169427459
>Not even him, but it does literally no such thing.
Ghouls at Necropolis in F1 will die if you snatch their chip because there will be no more water. but according to Bugfesta ghouls dont need to eat or drink.
So which is it ?

>>169428003
Dont forget piles of trash, trashed cars ( valueable metal and parts ), ammo, weapons and meds lying all over wasteland and being perfectly useable after 200 years etc.
Bugfesta should really make themselves a service and just state that its 10 years after the war or some shit like that.

>>169427280
I like Bethdrones defence force.
>not a plot hole
>wizard did it
>not a plot hole
>reeeeeeeeeee

Denial is strong.

>>169428003
Bethesda treats it like people have only been living on the surface for mere weeks, not decades.

>>169428447
>Denial is strong.
Stop being wrong and just bring the good stuff directly and it'll go better, Anon.

Jet is pre-war.

>>169427202
Nick takes the sarcasm and insults pretty politely.

>>169428479
I know your technically correct, but decades is understating it when it's been two centuries.

>>169428447
>So which is it ?
Both, ghouls can survive on radiation, as we see in Fallout 3 and 4, but if they aren't being constantly exposed to it, they need to eat and drink.

>I like Bethdrones defence force.
>wizard did it
No one made that claim, or anthing close to it.

>>169428658
My Fallout lore-fagging is extremely weak.
But still better than Bethesda's.

>>169428658
>when it's been two centuries.
And we know from various comments that all the places like the Slog, and the various small farms like Finch Farm and Abernathy Farm are new places since it was only in the last few years before The Minutemen fell that they were able to drive off most of the raiders and super mutants to make living in those places possible.

Ayyy anyone have the image of all the new Vegas factions, but it's making them all out to be edgy fedora-tippers?

>>169428802
>Both, ghouls can survive on radiation, as we see in Fallout 3 and 4, but if they aren't being constantly exposed to it, they need to eat and drink.
As we all know, refrigerators are radiation-proof.
Checkmate, Bethdrone.

>>169428802
>Most of the buildings are intact, but travelers report that no one seems to live there, and people who arrive to settle it either end up with radiation sickness or simply disappear.
Pretty sure that would be enough to survive on by that, if brief radstorms in an area where your geiger counter isn't clicking at all otherwise is enough.

>>169428626
>implying i will waste my time writing walls of text only for Beth fagotrons to ignore it and reply "not a plot hole"

>>169428802
>Both, ghouls can survive on radiation, as we see in Fallout 3 and 4, but if they aren't being constantly exposed to it, they need to eat and drink.
Nice headcanon.
Show me one instance where it is mentioned in F1 or 2.
And no, shit Bethesda thought to justify their terrible writing skills is not aplicable.

>No one made that claim, or anthing close to it.
>Kellog stoped aging for a century because he has a chip in his brain

>>169428956
No one bothered to clean up in several YEARS ?

>>169428639
I don't think it's that he tolerates it, moreso that he appreciates it.
Everytime you pick sarcastic with him, he always throws some banter back.

>>169425501
You know you could just take the entrance upstairs and not waste 2 mines and a grenade?

>>169429091
>Pretty sure that would be enough to survive on by that
Obviously not

Not to mention, the actual in-game representation of the town shows no appreciable radiation level.

>>169428956
Raiders are still human you know.
Just not people.

>>169429156
>No one bothered to clean up in several YEARS ?
Except
-Diamond City has no random corpses
-Nor does Goodneighbor
-Finch Farm
-Abernathy Farm
-The Slog
-Warwick Homestead
-Vault 81

Or most settlements in the game.... the only place that does is Drumlin Diner, and Trudy and her son had just set up shop there

>>169429032
Indiana Jones pls go

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>>169429201

>>169429342
>-Diamond City has no random corpses
And it has shitload of TRASH.
Ditto for every other settlement you listed.

>>169429485
>And it has shitload of TRASH.
>looks out any other other major city
>trash all over the streets
How normal.

>>169429028
Please lads I need this image it's very important

>>169429342
>There are no skeletons lying around
Yeah, that's a nice standard. And you'd think that the very first thing you'd do upon choosing a building to stay in would be to remove the skeletons. Though I forget, had they set up shop only minutes, maybe hours prior to you showing up?

>>169429564
I don't really see anything at all when I go downtown. Some junk caught in bushes by the highways in the suburbs, especially right after the first thaw.

I was recently in Mexico though, the moment you got out of the resort-y areas, piles of trash. Ditches by the side of the road with trash a foot deep. Somehow they still manage to have designated trash piles.

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>>169429564

this

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CRAWL OUT THROUGH THE FALLOUT BACK TO MEEEEE

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>>169429886

>>169430185
>>169429929
>>169429564
Or you could go to some civilized country..

>>169430274
Mhmm.
Much unlike one that got pelted with nukes.

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>>169429564
>>169429886

>>169430274
>wasteland
>civilised

>>169429886
>Somehow they still manage to have designated trash piles.
D E S I G N A T E D
T R A S H I N G
S T R E E T S

>>169430642

JOSE MY SON

>>169430642
US should fund a designated trashing street along the border, the Mexicans will build a wall of trash.

>>169429342
The Railroad HQ is literally inside a crypt

>>169430795

>tfw you build a landfill along the entire width of the border

>>169430835
RRHQ isn't a settlement

>>169431310
Doesn't change the fact that people are living 3 feet away from ancient skeletons.

>>169425219
And they did all of that instead of populating an actual world full of quests, loot, and NPCs, something modders have never been able to do well due to rampant conflicts. And that's why so many people hate the game. And they won't even use half these mechanics the next time the engine receives an overhaul if past games are any indication. It was totally wasted effort.

>>169431453
And it can't even be out of respect for the buried deceased because some skeletons are out their coffins.

>>169431580
>And they did all of that instead of populating an actual world full of quests, loot, and NPCs
Except the game has far more non-radiant quests then Fallout 3, far more loot then Fallout 3, and far more NPCs then Fallout 3.

>And they won't even use half these mechanics the next time the engine receives an overhaul if past games are any indication. It was totally wasted effort.
Except every past game has taken and used the majority of mechanics from the previous games, and upgraded them.

Past games show Bethesda uses what they make for DLC in newer games.

>>169431751
Fallout 3 is not a standard to compare to, it was a pile of shit

>hey we literally just moved here the bodies at the old hq are still warm and we had to move into a long abandoned crypte
>REEE CLEAN UP THESE SKELETONS IN THEIR RIGHTFUL RESTING PLACES

I guess REE BETHESDA sums up this whole thread so far don't you niggers ever get bored of this shit?

>>169431751
>Except every past game has taken and used the majority of mechanics from the previous games
Too bad they don't take the ones that matter, like skills, stats...

Say I wanted to add a bunch of random pre-assigned settlers to a settlement in the CK, how would I do that? Does anybody know?

What I'm trying to do is populate those empty settlements so you have more places to raid with the Nuka World DLC. Any help that isn't a youtube video would be appreciated.

>>169432043
> like skills, stats...
Except the new system is objectively at worst a side grade, and in most cases, mechanically better then the old one.

>>169431945
>Use coffins with lids ajar and skeletons still inside as tables
>"not cleaning up"
Almost no one was using that as an example though. I think they were criticizing them choosing that of all places to use as their HQ.

>>169432190
>any help that isn't a youtube video would be appreciated
Didn't you get the memo? No one who knows how to do this sort of thing knows how to write an explanation, even with screenshots. Though if you find any, please share. I can't stand video tutorials for things that aren't manipulating physical objects, like those metal puzzles.

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>Companion mod
>It is a woman so unbelievably attractive that it looks completely out of place
>Has OC donut steel look with weird clothes or glowing eyes or something
>Is a wacky, happy go lucky quirky gal xD
>Awful backstory straight from DeviantArt
>You can tell the chick voicing her is using this as a means of living vicariously through a mod
>Sounds fat

9 times out of 10 this occurs.

>>169432437
Yeah, we all know who Willow is.

>>169432410
>I think they were criticizing them choosing that of all places to use as their HQ.
Where else could they go?

comfy place for solo survivors? doing a geraldo runthrough and I'd rather not shack up at the castle for the 50th time

>>169432437
>sounds fat

I'm offensive and I find this racist

>>169432437
It's hilarious that you can hear if the woman is obese or not and usually they are.

>>169432580

Sunshine Tidings is comfy
Egret Tours is comfy
Murkwater is comfy
Boathouse is comfy
Cottage is comfy

>>169432548
a train station

>>169432580
I'd say Red Rocket but I've always hated how close to Sanctuary it is.

>>169432580
Personally I'm a fan of Hangman's Alley. You could also get Basement Living and live out of your basement/bunker, which you can place in any settlement and it'll work fine.

>>169432923
You could maybe work that into the headcanon for your character to help with your immersion?

Build walls that cut off the gas station from people who approach from the Sanctuary side.
Put up signs that say 'Sanctuary Citizens not welcome' and the like.

>>169433107
Well the main reason I hate it is that both settlements occupy the same cell so you can't build extensively in both of them. I suppose it wouldn't be a problem though if you're being a loner and just stick to one settlement.

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>>169429457

>>169432437
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15962/?

>>169433843
the 1 time it isn't

>>169433932
Yeah, basically. Never really used custom companions in FNV or FO3 to remember them besides that shitty Willow you hear all the time.

>mods that add items on startup
>alternate start mods that delete all of your items

why

>>169434420
Looks pretty believable as a pre-war detective. Reminds me of that semi-ghoulified, still humanized Hancock.

>>169434420
Mod link?
Would be cool to activate after knowing Nick for a bit.
Roll with him as a synth for a while, then eventually help get him 'repaired'

Any ideas about a gun that can be decent on Survival from about level 5-50? Mods allowed if canon applicable, no SCAR-H or whatever, I like it but its hardly canon.

I'd like to actually get attached to a gun. I don't know if I can wait for the 10mm SMG to come out, but maybe something similar? Thinking of rolling with an SMG and explosives as they are things I've rarely used on any Fallout.

>>169433424

Oh, this is why my RR ruined my 300hr+ game file and hard crashed every time I went near it.

>>169436539
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22223/?

>>169436539
*PING*

>>169436665
Depending on if you used settlement crafting mods and which ones, it could have easily been one of those. Especially the bigger ones.
>Go to move a power conduit
>Select it
>Suddenly looking at my desktop
It might be the lack of an anti-crash, but I've noticed that 4 usually has "clean" crashes, as in straight CTD, no stuttering or pausing or freezing beforehand. No "Fallout 4.exe has stopped working".

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What do I need if I want a simple Jsawymeme run with pretty lasers and shit?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22254/?

What happened to that guy who went on about pump action shotguns never?

>>169437232

I had hard buzzing if I touched anything.

Willing to blame Do It Yourshelf, just because I liked having my shit organised and it uses a high poly count.

>>169436747

>le console
Fuck.

>>169437878

I'm pretty amped about this. This will be the explosive part of my SMG/Grenadier build.

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>>169436539
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10669/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22189/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22254/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22223/?

I HAVE AN IDEA
i really want a multi holster mod
so what i was thinking was

if there is some script that recognizes weapons slots from 1 to 10 and gets the fun
silently add premade item representing that weapon.

For example, i want to equip 1 rifle, 1 katana, and one pistol. So if i put them in the respective weapon slots, it would check the pistol and put a dummy pistol in the holstered area, a dummy rifle and a dummy katana in premade holster armors.
and when the button of such weapon is pressed, the dummy becomes invisible when the weapon is selected, while the other dummies remain.

This will looks seamless because the script would be constantly checking which weapon is equiped and which ones arent so it can place the dummies.

This will only work for 1 rifle, one melee, and one pistol.
Would have to rethink the whole thing if i wanted to work with more difficult combinations.

what do yall think?

>>169437917
I always figured that ones that didn't add items with scripts were more likely to cause problems due to conflicts, but I haven't really tried it out. I don't really have any patience left. Do It Yourshelf uses script injection, just for the record.

I've said this before that we should come up with a list of ones that use scripts, because shit's gonna conflict until we get bashed tags, if we ever.

>>169438419
>Script constantly checking
Not sure if that's going to be a good idea in itself. There are holster mods, though I don't know how they're set up. First you've got to set up the holstering bit, then you've got to do the weapon slot bit on top of that.

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I wish the two headed bovine stayed outside

>>169439042
they hang out around a troff if you build one

>>169439042
Well, they wish the one headed humans would stay outside.
Little empathy never hurt, guy.

[Medicine 45] Try breathing deeply three times and then blowing on your thumb.

So how do I get Paladin Brandis' uniform without antagonizing the entire Brothehood?

>tfw the best outfit in the game is nearly unobtainable for players

>>169439316
i have a troff, i actually have two, one for each. but they always are inside.
Taffington is a house for boats, not mutated cows.

>>169439324
except for the guy who has to clean up the shit

>>169439593
console commands?
Im pretty sure it's available in qasmoke.. but i may be mistaken

>>169439593
There's one of those game Dev rooms that have all of the unique PAs in there, can't remember the code though.

If you don't want to cheat you're fucked though

>>169437878
Should have been in the base game.

>>169439593
pickpocket

or console commands if you're not a console pleb

>>169439562

[Repair 45/50] Can you try to fix a broken heart?

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Anyone else really just loathe Deacon?

>>169439970
>holorifle
>base game
Why?

>>169440261
No pump action scatter gats.

is this the best console mod for survival?
https://bethesda.net/en/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/1822254
Cause im getting real tired of finding myself stuck between rocks when im trying to flee something that will kill me. I wanna be able to console outta being stuck

>>169437878
hot damn the holorifle looks sexy with a paintjob.

I wonder what that says about dethesda design when the best looking energy weapon is a reskinned grenade launcher

You eyeballin' me?

>>169440464

There's a mod called Get Unstuck that does this. That and Autosave on aid items is necessary, especially on Xbox.

>>169440094

Deacon a shit. SHIT.

>>169440094
>>169441331
>hating on one of the better companions
I bet you're Caitfags.

>>169441331
At first i liked him.. then i realised he is the most untrustworthy bastard and i stopped.

>>169441449
I personally prefer having Gage whispering dirty things in my ears. Cait is meh. I've never actually bothered to get full affinity with her, some times i never even pick her up from the combat one at all.
The first companion i max is usually Mac for his headshot perk.

FO4.

I'm doing the quest to repair the pump at thicket excavations on a challenge character. I did it once and got a legendary enemy, and then died stupidly before I could retrieve it, so I loaded my save and tried again. This time, no legendary. Is it necessary to talk to Sully before hitting the pump switch to get the legendary, or is the chance just that low?

I know when some quests pop enemies up, there's increased legendary chance compared to normal, or at least I think that's true. lemme know if I'm wrong. I just want to know if certain objectives have to be ticked off first.

How many quests for Fallout 4 COULD have skill checks added to them?

>>169441959
That happened to me once with a legendary glowing mirelurk, i died and came back and it was just a regular glowing mirelurk

>>169441959
>>169442143
Only a handful of legendaries are set, the rest, like that one, is a random spawn that was randomly legendary.

>>169442083
A ton could have had more than one way of solving something at least.

>>169442543
I figured that was the case.
I always find a legendary raider outside that mall place i cant remember the name of thats around the Cambridge area.

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Do you want radroaches?
Because that's how you get radroaches.

>>169442083
>skill checks

None.

They could add SPECIAL or Perk checks though

>>169442543
Is there any restriction on legendary drops from certain enemies? i.e. hunter seems to be a common one for mirelurk drops.

I haven't played in a few months so I've forgotten all this.

>>169437786
Jsawyer, EVE, the standard stability set, and a working brain to build your own conflic resolution patch because HOLY SHIT are there a lot of conflicts. Even with the Lutana/JIP scripting done by Jsawyer Ultimate, there is a fuckton of conflicts to patch together that not even Bash can patch.

But it is worth it. Got myself a courier running full laser infiltrator - stealth suit, Hyperbreeder, Murdelizer and a knoife. Jsawyer-style tweaks make it feel gud to go into a place, shiv a few guards, then suddenly pop up and laserface the rest.

>>169443168
>still posting this
>not posting screenshots of Archer's wasteland adventure in a clean suit with Kneecapper Deliverer

Skillchecks are a pain in the dick, especially if you have to reload your save, just to see the requirements for each option and be able to make an informed decision. I personally like FO4's dialogue system better. But I think things like karma should have stayed. Also the options should have been written better instead of yes,explain,no,sarcastic.

Before you get all upset, when I say I like the dialogue system better I mean it very loosely. In the fact that you can walk away and make a decision at another time. That was something fo3 and nv lacked. Because once you talked to somebody you were locked in.

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>>169443280
I want mods that create the penultimate mobster experience, any suggestions?

>>169443341
I'm not the guy who originally posted it.
I tried to replicate it but couldn't do it well enough.

>>169443442
>Karma should have stayed

fuck off

>>169443168
>>169443341
>>169443568
Which faction would Sterling side with?
What would his initial SPECIAL be?

>>169443442
i miss karma too. Would have been cool to get different options from DC guards and shit based on your karma

>>169443280
>that not even Bash can patch
Really? I just figured out what I needed to uncheck from each list, and I'm down to all of three weapons that aren't getting the right effect and sound applied, one small clutter item that isn't being marked as "deleted", and that's about it. For the weapons specifically I've got:
>YUP
>Improved Sound FX
>JSawyer Ultimate
>EVE FNV - All DLC
>WeaponModsExpanded
>WMX-DLCMerged
>WMX-POPMerged
>WMX-EVE-AllDLCMerged
>Improved Sound FX - WMX - Merged Major DLCs
>WMX - ArenovalisTextures
Had a problem with requirements for the EVE sound patch, but I've made changes since then.

>>169443516
If on New Vegas:
More Perks has a few perks that enhance mobster-style-friendly outfits and weapons. Notably, there's one that boosts pre-war outfits (like suits), and one that lets you turn pre-war outfits into POWER ARMOR. There's a few more perks in there that also help. This, plus the Laser RCW/Tommy Gun, should work as a base.

If on 4:

Suit, fedoralalala, shades, tommy gun. Not sure of any good mods, though.

>>169443986
I'm not talking things like 'import x' or 'merge list y', I'm talking things like individual records having pieces you want from multiple mods, but only the last one getting pulled in because even Bash can only do so much. Hell, I've got basically all the mods you've listed and more, and even with careful bashing I still find a custom conflict resolution patch AND custom tweak patch are needed to make sure load order shenanigans don't make weird textures or sound issues crop up.

Thankfully, said custom patches are, themselves, also mergeable into the Bashed Patch. It's a little bit of extra work, but as others have noted in other threads, the feeling when those reddish-orange highlights turn green is surprisingly soothing.

>>169443713
S - 3
P - 3
E - 5
C - 4
I - 1
A - 5
L - 7
Behind his high luck, he's still a capable super spy, so his Endurance, Agility, and Charisma are his highest stats. He's not extraordinarily strong, so his Strength and Perception are above 1, but moderately low. It's Archer, so his Intelligence is the lowest of his stats.

As far as his faction, probably could be bribed by the Institute into replacing Kellogg's role, given that's the only place that could sate his vices. Though why they would need another Kellogg is questionable besides Archer's dumb luck causing him to screw up their plans at every turn.

>>169443713
>Which faction would Sterling side with?

Well on one hand the Institute is the closest to a secret agency the commonwealth has. On the other hand Archer has a difficult history with androids.

>What would his initial SPECIAL be?

At least 7 CHA for party boy and 5 LCK for idiot savant.

Keep INT at 1 and dump the rest in END

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>>169444015
FO4 needs mods that let you build a casino. And drug wars vs the Triggermen.

>>169443642
>lets remove the only thing that would have made roleplay even logical

Why do I even come here?

Karma is one of the nessecary things that this game sorely lacked to be called an RPG. There isn't even a town system, if you shoot everyone in diamond city dead, you can come back 4 days later and random settlers will be there and not shoot you.

There's no town or settlement based karma. What's even worse is there are only 4 towns/cities(5 if you count fah habbah and 6 if you count Nuka World)...

Diamond City
Vault 81
Goodneighbor
Bunker Hill

The vanilla game is lacking in premade towns and cities which is something I'm going to fix, starting with fiddler's green. But first I need to figure out how to assign npcs to a settlement via the CK.

>>169445060
>arbitrary number system is the only thing that makes roleplay logical

>>169444913
>FO4 needs mods
In general.

I wonder if there's a mod that limits the level cap and adds actual guns to the commonwealth

there are almost 0 actual physical guns in the commonwealth aside from like, 10mm pistols because of the retarded scaling and the retarded limitless leveling system

>>169444579
Fair enough, I haven't done anything that complicated. I've kept my plugin count under 100 this time around, and I'd only consider more if it weren't for something more recently giving me bad save bloat, in terms of CASM taking a lot longer than usual to save. With my luck it was the one that I already uninstalled causing most of it.

>>169445134
Well when you lack the ability to play a role by picking how you solve a conflict or who your character is... Honestly though karma was stupid, reputation isn't, but losing rep when there's no way for a group to know you did something is.

>>169444913
>drug wars vs the Triggermen
or literally anything featuring the Triggermen

It's kind of bizarre that they're built up early was one of the big players in the commonwealth then completely fucking dropped the second you finish the quest that introduces them

>>169445060
>Why do I even come here?

Oh man, if I'd have known that shit talking the awful karma system would get rid of namefags I'd have done it sooner.

>>169420167
We need a modder to make cuteclaws now

>>169443170
Yeah whatever, I'm saying that are there quests that have actions that could have specialchecks and perkchecks added to them?

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>>169445682
I think they're plenty cute and frightening as is.

>>169445134
Karma and reputation being separate is something needed for a roleplaying game. Both are needed for proper characterization.

Reputation lets you know how others view you. Are you the town's peacekeeper? Murderer? Do they even know you exist? That can be told through reputation.

Karma, on the other hand, details less how the world views your actions, but how your character views themself. That sound heard when stealing something, or helping out? That's not the heavens approving/hating your actions, that's your character's conscience...and not all consciences are aligned with 'good.' So while the two sounds - good and evil - symbolize to the player increase or decrease in karma, to the character, it's more a feeling of whether what they're doing is in line with their own personal alignment. A sort of feeling of 'rightness,' like a murderer feeling good about killing, rather than helping someone, for instance.

There's a reason the 'lawful vs. chaotic' thing exists alongside the 'good vs. evil' in classic rpg systems; it allows the player to decide whether or not a certain action would fall in line with their character's, well, character. Having only one scale (reputation) makes things as one-dimensional as viewing 'karma' as a judgement from the heavens.

>>169445912
No, that's fucking bullshit. My character doesn't become the most evil person in the entire world by shoplifting

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>>169445912
>rob everything not nailed down in doc mitchell's house
>no karma loss
>steal ammo from powder gangers
>literally hitler

>>169446037
And they wont unless you go out of your way to steal everything.

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>Disarm trap
>Literally satan

>>169445391
Not him, but reputation was just as bad as Karma was, for many of the same reason as Karma was.

This is exemplified in games like New Vegas, where the reputation system actually made NPCs act less believably then in games without such systems.

The biggest problem comes from reputation systems working on the premise of offering blanketing +/- reputation bonuses for generic actions, which only results in problems like

1. NPCs knowing you did shit like killing a squad of their soldiers despite the fact you did so in the middle or nowhere, with no one around to see you do it, and with no one left alive to report it.

2. Making all NPCs in a giving faction act exactly the same way in regards to something you did. Solve the NCR/Kings problem by killing all the Kings? Hsu, a guy who is all about doing the EXACT opposite of that likes you more because +NCR Rep!

3. Because everyone automatically knows what you did, and who you did it for, its impossible to play double agent, by seemingly working for one faction, while in reality you are actually working for another. Caesar autoamtically knowing literally every shit you took, despite him having no reason too, makes it impossible to sabotage his efforts from the inside.

Fallout 4, which uses a scripted trigger system(like most every other game) instead of a blanketing reputation system, avoids all these problems.

And the scripted triggers limits NPCs reactions to thing you did to only things they have reason to know you did.

Reputation systems are fundamentally flawed. They were in Morrowind, and Bethesda ditched them after Morrowind for those reasons, and then when Obsidian tried to bring them back in NV, all it did was resurrect those same old problems.

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>>169445682

And done!

>>169445438
>It's kind of bizarre that they're built up early was one of the big players in the commonwealth
They really aren't though.

The game constantly portrays them as nothing more then a small time raider gang with uniforms.

>>169446531
GIVE MODEL

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>>169446531

buff you are cute to me

>>169445438
It's just Bethesda doing the usual populating everything with hostiles who won't so much as speak to you
With shitheads like Hines around it's no wonder

>The Deathclaw egg quest didn't end with the mom dying unexpectedly, the egg hatching, seeing you first and thinking it's your mom
>You'll never have a babby Deathclaw companion named Clawmeat

>>169446828
>With shitheads like Hines around it's no wonder
Not him, but you are aware Hines has nothing to do with game development right?

>>169446867

You can have a Deathclaw companion named Zigzag though

>>169446890
BUT HE SAID A MEAN THING ON TWEETER WAAAAAH MY FEELINGS

>>169446890
Yes, but it's very telling that they have a braindead like that doing PR for their RPGs

>>169446890
>hines play tests all the games
>is basically bethesdas handler(via zenimax)

>>169446037
That's not the point - Karma as a scale of good and evil, that is most certainly stupid. But as a way of judging how in-line your character is with the norm of other characters, it's a useful tool. You might not view theft as evil, but the vast majority consider it as at least highly rude. Frankly, it's almost a neutral action, and really should have barely any karmic impact (sadly the F3 legacy system rather hinders proper implementation), whereas running around jamming screwdrivers into people's spines could count as some serious bad karma.

>>169446237
This, on the other hand, is an example of why an enforced short development time is bad and Beth should feel bad for pushing it on Obsidian.

In other words, what I'm trying to get at is that while reputation is community-scale, karma is personal in nature. How you appear to others, how you appear to yourself; are you selfish or selfless? Or do you just drift along?

Then again, I do play with both JSawyer to fix karma distributions, and a mod that focuses on making it almost sane.

>>169446508
Bear in mind that (A) the gamebryo engine is SHIT, and (B) there was barely a year to get a proper working game running, let alone all the gameplay tuneups after Fallout 3.


Is the implementation of karma and rep in New Vegas flawed? Hell yes. Is the idea itself bad? Not in my opinion. But I've said my piece. Let's get back to waifus and lore.

>>169447001
>braindead
>Bethesda games are some of the most successfully selling games in the industry
He seems to know what hes doing.

Is there a reason why enemy or quest vertical location doesnt show up on Power Armor HUD? Or am I bugged out?

>>169446508
Explain how that scripted trigger system works if I were to say, kill some BoS in the middle of nowhere? I never actually did anything like that.

Also I did specifically say that having reputation is good, but having them automatically know when you do something isn't. If you take away that stupidity, karma is still stupid because it's not anything tangible judging the player's actions, it's the game itself. "Faction karma" makes sense, as it makes sense that a faction would judge you based on actions that have helped or hurt them, but that's literally the faction rep system.

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>>169446748

You want this model I made in 10 seconds in OS by giving a deathclaw 100% bigger eyes and changed his snarl to a derpy grin? I suppose I could share it, I was about to delete him.

>>169446770

Y-you too

>>169447080
>Bear in mind that (A) the gamebryo engine is SHIT, and (B) there was barely a year to get a proper working game running, let alone all the gameplay tuneups after Fallout 3.

I love all this revisionist bullshit where people try to jump to Obsidian's defense by constantly claiming ever shorter development cycles then they actually got.

18 months is not barely a year, especially when 90% of the game was made for them already.

I like Obsidian, but fucks like you give them a bad name for constantly trying to white knight them when even they admit they handled their game development poorly.

>>169447208
>Explain how that scripted trigger system works if I were to say, kill some BoS in the middle of nowhere? I never actually did anything like that.
Nothing happens, because no one is around to see you do it.

Killing BoS will only get you in trouble if you do so in front of, or around, a named BoS NPC, who are only in BoS bases, where its probable that someone could escape and report your ass, or report you ass back to BoS command before you finish killing everyone.

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>kill Danse
>get congratulated by the BoS

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/1pwld84ykggi4l1/CUTECLAW.nif

I wasn't expecting to make a cute Deathclaw today but here you go

>>169447529
You might have proven your loyalty to the Brotherhood, but you've proven you're as rigid to the letter of your ideals and not the principle as a synth is to its circuits and logic.

>>169425972
>dumb shit with contradictory t60 power armor
>tesla t60 armor
Can someone explain this to me ? Or do you mean that they've retconned in the new PA mark into the game ?

>dumb shit with the ghoulified fridge kid
The whole thing was pretty much a weird wasteland moment to me.
>another fridge joke
>ghoul parents

My gripe is with shit like pipe weapons in 200 years sealed safe. I can accept a retcon like "oh the jet is there because it was actually made before the war and Myron was full of shit" or some stupid explanation like that, but the garbage weapons are there before of lazy fucks not adjusting loot spawns for pre-war spots.

>>169448004
Go back to your rice paddy with that booktalk Ming.
I gotta fire up this giant walking nuke to kill people who use technology haphazardly

>>169448057
> but the garbage weapons are there before of lazy fucks not adjusting loot spawns for pre-war spots.
Uhh no, pipe weapons were pre-war weapons as well. They are even featured on a Guns and Bullets magazine.

And with the resource wars, where every major resource in the world was at a premium and being seized by the various global governments, shit like guns would be at a premium.

Not to mention, Boston, like most major cities in America, was under martial law, with the military suppressing riots all the time.

Most actual guns had been seized from the common people, forcing most of them to resort to pipe weapons.

AHH SHIT DOOD, YER LIKE WICKED SMAHT.
CLAM CHOWDAH
BASEBOWL

MAHK WAHLBAHG
CAWFEE
FAH HAHBAH

>>169448324
Proofs?
Because everything I know is the opposite to that last bit there where even civilian lasers and shit.

>>169447870
Thanks Buff. Did you ever know that you're my hero?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItWIYcD6jas

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>>169448587
It just works.

>>169448324
>Uhh no, pipe weapons were pre-war weapons as well. They are even featured on a Guns and Bullets magazine.
I don't recall seeing any, got a screenshot on hand ?

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i wish i could destroy the nuka world raiders and keep gage.
I don't even mind that he is an old man who sits in every chair he comes across

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>>169448587
>Proofs?
>Military vehicles are all over Nate/Nora's pre-war neighborhood
>Pre-war military checkpoints are all across the city
>Boston Police rationing site
>Federal ration stockpile
>Boston Bugle building terminal entry about food riots
>Massachusetts State House terminal entry about the city being under marital law
>Guns and Bullets magazine showcasing pipe weapons

I find it hilarious how people can somehow be so oblivious to shit ltierally plastered all over the game.

It makes it even more funny since this shit has been part of the lore since Fallout 1/2, and expanded in the Fallout Bible, long before Bethesda ever got the series

>>169448801
See
>>169449052

>>169413928
does anyone have fallout new vegas/fallout 3 concept art? i already have concept art of the other beth games but op image looks interesting.

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>>169448994

I'm probably going to get replied to with "Thats the joke" but it looks like he's fisting Kellogg there

Gets what he deserves for killing po' lil' Nora

>>169448324
What's with Bethesda's Fallout and the inability of wastelanders to make new shit? The NCR has gunsmiths who can produce missile launchers and (somehow) Hecate II rifles, but the people in the commonwealth are still stuck salvaging 200 year old crap peashooters. Why couldn't they have made them themselves out of scrap metal like they appear to be?

>>169449450
Because the Gun Runners base was an old pre-war factory that was still actually functional, and they managed to get a lot of pre-war weapons schematics and horde them.

Something that doesn't exist anywhere else.

>>169449450

Bethesda LOVES their garbagepunk aesthetic

It's not that people in the wasteland can't create tacticool cowadooty shit, it's that Bethesda doesn't want them to

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>>169448587
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Resource_Wars
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
I'd normally say ignore the "Bethesda didn't show you any of this" part, but it was apparently too subtle. Then again, they also had a really strong focus on "see how great the past was and how shitty it is now?" so there's that.
Sorry for tumblr.

>>169449450
The Gun Runners are apparently the only ones who can make new weapons, as they got hold of working machinery and schematics and such. IIRC anything was looted or bought from them. And they said "as well", meaning that some pipe guns were pre-war, some were post-war since they're so simple to make.

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>>169449450

Maybe its lampshaded by the fact that the Institute is fucking with everything

The Institute are making new weapons too, but they're weaker than average lasers...Bethesda really dropped the ball on that one.

>>169449052
I'm not asking about martial law, I'm asking about proofs about confiscations, also that cover seems to be about guns taken from street gangs not about getting guns after a national confiscation.

I find it hilarious when people don't read me asking about one part of their statement and try to prove everything except the part I'm asking about.

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>>169449436
I spent more time than i am prepared to admit on getting him to sit right.

>>169449692
I find it funny that he claims Todd didn't show or mention any of this when this shit was shown and mentioned all across Fallout 3 and 4.

Hell, even Fallout 4's own introductory cutscene shows mobs of people rushing factories and shit for stuff due to the resource shortages

>>169449793
>The Institute are making new weapons too, but they're weaker than average lasers...Bethesda really dropped the ball on that one.
Institute weapons should be weaker then normal lasers.

As many in The Institute point out, they have very tight resources(hence why they have all those synth salvage teams on the surface)

The Institute would need to make a cheaply produced laser variant in order to adequately arm their synths despite their resource problems.

They also have no need for more powerful weapons since no one can actually reach them.

>>169449692
Can you point to which is about weapon confiscations that is the only bit I was asking about?

>>169449828
>>169450170
I figured that you'd be able to deduce for yourself that maybe if the government was snatching people up for complaining and shooting rioters freely, that maybe they wouldn't want civilians having weapons, or perhaps at the very least rightfully paranoid citizens would want weapons only to find that hey, there aren't any left available, and make their own instead of get shot over one.

Apparently not.

>>169450170
>>169450426
Also you said "everything", which included
>Every resource being at a premium
>Guns being at a premium
>Major cities being under martial law
>Military suppressing riots

>>169449692
>muh divergence

Not a fucking thing, unless you mean in 650000 BC when Lavos lands

I just got back into Fallout New Vegas. What are some godlike mods to have?

>>169450830
Willow companion is great, really takes character writing and interaction to the next level!

>>169450702
Oh, I forgot the transistor hasn't been invented yet, and that we've had 13 commonwealths since 1969.

>>169450426
Unless you can show me police or army notes of such doing or a removal of the 2nd amendment or similar you have shown me nothing I didn't already know, I have found no proof of confiscations of weapons from normal civilians.
Not rioters, looters, gang members but going door to door searching houses for firearms.

>>169451006
See:
>>169450572