/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

Reminder that we have Emiya Alter, Holmes and two Alters as story unlocks coming

>>169220252
>- 5* Shinjuku Archer (Limited)
>- 4* Shinjuku Assassin
>- 4* Shinjuku Avenger
put they're names you lazy fuck

Aren't story unlocks still rollable on the first week?

>>169220556
We don't know their names.

>>169220449
but holmes won't be released until the last chapter of this arc

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I love my waifu!

So how many Servants beyond the advertised 4 will we get?

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So in the latest chapter of Re:Zero's web novel Emilia did a lesser Unlimited Blade Works with ice weapons.
Collab when?

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>>169220682

>>169220756
0. I don't know why people are expecting anything else out of DW.

>>169220556
names don't unlock til you play through the story you memer

>>169220862
Mathmagician in GO when?

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R8 my team.
I hate being stuck in QP hell

>>169220862
Go away mathman.

12 HOURS UNTIL SHINJIKU

>>169220756
4
Holmes
Saber Alter Rider
Jannu Alter Saber
and whoever the Empress of Puppets is

>>169220779
never
Series lost all its steam when no season 2 was confirmed immediately.

>>169221005
Fucking Whale. Bad taste in waifus.

>>169221062
2 of those aren't new servants you moron.

>>169221005
That's your support though.
Also, generic as fuck except for Quetz/10.

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I did it lads

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>>169221114
Well, ok then.

>>169220628
>>169220927

idiots

>>169221145
>almost all limited servants
>generic
The hell are you talking about?

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Guan Yu 5* when lads?

I don't play GO but I come here to shitpost anyways

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Witch Thread.

I want that Doggo Avenger already.

>>169221234
Is that you, Fluffy?

>>169221120
THAY ATE IN THE COMMERCIAL YOI STUPID FUCK SO OF COUSE THEY ARE SERVANYTS

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>>169220682

>>169221120
They are new units. The characters aren't new.

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Reminder that if you failed at your job and got killed by some shitty heroes, you are a faliure of a necromancer

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>>169220252
>Were you expecting a cute girl, too bad it's just a 50 yo man
Gee, I wonder who would that be

>>169221314
That doesn't matter, anyone with at least half a brain only rolls for a certain servant when it is on rate up, limited or not.

Anyone got a folder of Riyo chibis they can upload?

>>169221507
its da vinci

from her interlude

>Guda: [->]But Da Vinci’s portrait was supposedly / quite the old man wasn’t it?

>Da Vinci: Oh, yeah. You remember me as a grandpa? Well, I don’t deny it. Of course that is also undoubtedly one of my forms too. But. Hear me okay? Changing your looks is the same as “changing your clothes”.

>>169221431
>>169221459
>Clothing was designed by Takeuchi as a change of clothing
>hurr new servant

Can't wait for tomorrow to see your cries.

>>169221005
>No Jalter
Already better than 80% of /fgog/

>>169221516
Explain how it's "generic" then. The only one I'd say that label applies to is Waver since he's been around since launch and almost everyone has him.

>>169221459
This sounds as if you desperately want to be disapointed.

>>169221005
>Musashit
NO

How much until maintenance?

>>169221682
I'll pass. I prefer my husbando with a nice rack and voiced by Maaya.

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>>169221845
YES

>>169222068
5 mins xD xD xD xD xD LOL

>>169222159
HA
GOT HIM XD

>>169222159
>>169222624

Is there anything worse than ironic shitposting? I don't think so.

>>169222068
Like 7 hours

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>>169220682
Same

>>169220779
Really? Truly best girl. Meanwhile all Rem can do is die or be in coma.

goodnight

>>169211590
But she does.

Would you roll for the math man?

>finally get every servant i desire during the month long downtime
>terrified that Valentines or EoR will send me straight back into gacha hell
>so far no new heroes have been revealed that i particularly want, the only one i'm barely interested in is Holmes

I really didn't expect this honestly. Feels both good and bad.

>>169222826
Thanks anon.

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Kuri/kuji doing tiger art

Buy a key chain of tiger

>>169223028
If he's the quick caster sure

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FUE
U
E

https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=206968

>>169223028
Nah. He's kind of a dick

>>169223231
>tfw still no translation of her Valentine's

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>>169223006
Good night anon.

Maint when

>>169223339
>Non. fucking. H
I'm sick of this meme Fue

>>169223525
3 1/4 Yottsuns

>answer me Kiirigiguu

https://youtu.be/1qbXapE5PFQ

>>169223525
6:32:14.637000

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>>169220682
My waifu is so versatile

>>169222957
Yes. She also got her boobs molested by chopsticks and she didn't understand what happened.

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>looking through my servants alignments
>the tyrant king that once wanted to destroy the world isn't evil
>the scourge of god as an ayylmao isn't evil
>the infamous impaler that was the basis of the dracula legend isn't evil
>a person who just tried to save people in the only way he knew how is evil
what did kerry ever do to deserve this?

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Don't use her at all outside of caster only events, should I bother farming qp to max her skill?

>requires cleared Babylon
>I'm still in Camelot
Fuck

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>>169222150
Post more Musashi

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>>169223339
>those short arms/long torso

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>>169223339
>female master and male master in the same comic
What did he mean by this?

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Nobu a CUTE.

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who

>>169223796
Alignments are a meme and partially based on a character's perception of themselves. Hence why Kojiro is also evil, because in his words "a man who kills people can never be anything else" or something similar.

>>169223796
> Vlad
> Evil

Fuck off.

Who is better in terms of gameplay Jannu Alter or Cu Alter?

>>169223961
A chink who is the MC of one of the four great classical Chinese novels.

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>>169220779
Your pic looks more like Gate of Babylon

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>>169223868

>>169224016
Cu Alter has better survivability then Jeanne Alter but I don't care when I have both.

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>>169223651

>english dub

>>169223796
Heroic spirit Kerry is just an emotionless killing machine. He already lost his noble motivations.

>>169223868
Please no.
Musashi is shit.

>>169224081
Yeah but it's ice weapons crafted on the go, not storaged.

>>169223994
>Alignments are a meme and partially based on a character's perception of themselves.
I still cannot get over the fact that characters like Atalanta and Tamamo (in fox girl form) are evil, but Meltlilith is Lawful Good despite being a sadist and all the killing she did.

>>169224472
https://youtu.be/3djQBH7ubd4

How does this make you feel?

>>169223994
I suppose that makes some sense.

>>169224014
>The town had been deserted, but the Ottomans were horrified to discover a "forest of the impaled" (thousands of stakes with the carcasses of executed people), according to Chalkokondyles.
>The sultan's army entered into the area of the impalements, which was seventeen stades long and seven stades wide. There were large stakes there on which, as it was said, about twenty thousand men, women, and children had been spitted, quite a sight for the Turks and the sultan himself. The sultan was seized with amazement and said that it was not possible to deprive of his country a man who had done such great deeds, who had such a diabolical understanding of how to govern his realm and its people. And he said that a man who had done such things was worth much. The rest of the Turks were dumbfounded when they saw the multitude of men on the stakes. There were infants too affixed to their mothers on the stakes, and birds had made their nests in their entrails.
He's definitely not fucking LAWFUL GOOD

>>169224618
I hear alot of Blazblue Dub VA's here.

>>169223901
>...........
>--Absurd.
>...Jack dresses in far too skimpy clothes

>I think that so long as she's happy then she should just wear whatever she wants.

>I'm afraid that mentality is exactly the problem with kids that need a guiding hand like her.

>I don't really get what you mean

>Excuse me
>I was playing with my friends earlier but they seem to have gotten lost....

>Oh dear...was I like that too....?

>>169224614
Well nasu is firmly lodged up his own ass considering how his opinions on a utopia are 'its bad get rid of it'

>>169224618
Don't care about shitty English dubs since English isn't my mother language, thankfully.

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>>169223868
Here's a superior Japanese swordswoman.

>>169224618
How does this make you feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CgxM0l0WA

>>169224614
Atalanta and Tamamo being evil makes sense though.

Meltlilith being Lawful Good is dumb as shit even with the "b-b-but she did it all for someone else and adhered to a strict moral code!" excuse.

>>169224614
>characters like Atalanta
You mean the one who challenged people to an unwinnable race and killed them if they lost for the crime of wanting to marry her? Or the one who looked at innocent, uninvolved humans who were dying in Jack's Mist, noted that she could save them if she wanted, and decided that they were idiots and it was their own fault so she wouldn't bother helping them, and who then decided that she needed to hunt down and kill Jeanne for exorcising doomed children because they were "innocent"?

Atalanta's plenty evil.

>>169224618
I didn't know Tager, kokonoe and Jin where heroic spirits.

>>169224618
>dub Gil
literally all wrong

>>169224702
We need another Vlad right now desu

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>>169224702
Doing God's work is lawful good anon

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>>169224081
>Hip of Babylon
>Ass Bolg
Collab when?

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>>169224618
Weak as shit

>>169225129
>tfw season 2 never ever

>>169224614
Same. I can understand most alignments but I still don't get why is Meltlilith Lawful Good.

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Mama gives loving handjobs with gentle butthole massaging as a bonus!

>>169225129
>tfw no 5* Nozomin

is there anything more fun than a merlin, tamamo (caster), hans team?

you get to savor the game

>>169224972
Shinji is best German

>>169225017
Atalanta sounds neutral to me. Evil should be for mad Gilles or Liz. Characters who do the killing and enjoy the suffering of others.

Nasu's alignments are fucking dumb and follow a twisted logic only he uses.
>If they're good its because they do what they do for the sake of others to try help them or a fairly selfless (and sometimes just because they think they're good)
>If they're neutral its because they weren't selfless enough or selfish enough to be good or evil (and sometimes just because they're decent people but not interested in heroism)
>If they're evil its because they do shit only for themselves, actively want to harm others, or are just selfish dicks (and sometimes just because they think they're a bad person)

Chaotic/Neutral/Lawful at least mostly make sense with only a few exceptions though

>>169225198
>Anime sold like shit
>Didn't bump the manga's sales at all
Even less likely than Berserk being finished.

>>169224702
And just what's wrong with impaling people who'd invade your land?

It's a warning to keep fuckers out who'd kill your people. It doesn't matter how gruesome he had to get, the methods he used, what matters is that his people were safe.

Protecting your kingdom, your people, what's more heroic than that?

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>>169225323
>taking 10000 turns to do anything is savoring the game now

>>169225402
Don't forget the ones who are selfish and evil but lazy about it so they still wind up Neutral.

Gareth-chan when?

>>169225395
>bunch of innocent, uninvolved people dying horribly in a mist that melts them down, through no fault of their own
>atalanta walks up to them, watches this happen, and says "hmm yeah i could totally save them"
>"nah lol they're dumbasses this is their own fault fuck them"
>"DONT HURT THE CHILDREN I'LL KILL YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Nah, she's Evil.

>>169225641
Soon, brother

>>169224618
chills man, reminds me when fate was still good

>>169225512
with content once every 6 months you gotta go slow

you don't eat a 100$ steak in one bite

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Someone is desperate

>>169225510
>people who invade your land
>children and infants and also pregnant women

Vlad got shit done but he did so in fucking heinous and vile ways. You can admit he was effective and protected his realm while also understanding how disgusting his practices were.

>>169225757
Yeah, for sure. 11%? Get your shit together, mate.

Who /rollingforpuppy/ here?

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>three non combat command spell orders and the servant you would use them on
>extra points if you keep it family friendly

>>169225757
>メーリン
literally who

>>169225757
who?

>>169225838
I'm not rolling for shit until I see all the ascensions and get all the essential info like usual

>>169225954
>>169225957
merlin you eop scum

I just realized that EMIYA Alter's Origin Bullet drains NP gauge like Kerry's NP (which ends with a shot with his own origin bullet, I think)
The theory about it being a more Kerry-like EMIYA makes more sense now
On a more gamplay note, is the NP drain effect only on Arts NPs or its on the other types too?

>>169226020
that's マーリン genius

>>169226020
That's マーリン, you idiot.

>>169225267
Can I suck on her tits during it?

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>>169226020
>Merlin
>メーリン

>>169225694
It's more like she didn't give a damn about them dying or surviving. Again, Neutral. Apocrypha has lots of terribly written moments, many of them being edgy as hell, and this is one of them. Cannot believe this is getting an anime, what a waste of money, time, and a good cast.

>>169225838
I'll prolly wait until the last day, but I'm rolling for granpa.

>>169225838
I'm waiting to see his identity, if it is Barghest or the Headless Horseman and has nice lore I will definitely roll for him.

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>>169225017

>waifufags will defend this

>>169224071
Hou Yi?

>>169226020
oh my, what an embarrassing post

>>169226191
Actively allowing innocent people to die when you could rescue them with ease just because you think they're scum for not being able to save themselves is not fucking neutral.

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>>169225954
>>169225957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSM9vUGhJBY

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>>169225954
>>169225957
china

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Anyone familiar with WonFes stuff? How many figures from Fate was shown?

>>169225850
I would make Siegfried smile and talk out his grievances and regrets.
That's about it.

Also has anyone noticed that they Retconned Siegfried's Personality to fit in with the Sumanai meme? He used on his deathbed he saw that in his attempts to help people he fucked shit up so as a servant he said he'd be a hero of justice for real instead of someone just doing whatever is asked.

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>>169226160
Sure, then we can give her some DP action.

>>169226335
>>169226350
I guess it's acceptable to want her
even better if she was added instead of ROTKs

>>169225757
Meiling? From 2hu? Wut

>>169226262
No, grand archer is being kept for Grand Order 2.

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ボブミヤ

>>169226191
>It's more like she didn't give a damn about them dying or surviving.
To reiterate, these were innocents. They didn't even find out about the Grail War, they just happened to be caught in the Mist that Jack created. It's not that she didn't notice them, or she was in a hurry, or that it would inconvenience her. She actively looked at them, realised she could save them, and decided not to because in her mind, it was their own fault. That isn't neutral. She's letting people die in agony when she could easily save them, just because she was annoyed they had been put in danger in the first place.

>>169225850
I get Mashu watch while Medb rapes Gudao and I bang Da Vinci in the bed beside theirs

>>169226062
But why does he look like a nigger, who approved of this idea?

>>169226402
You have a nice taste, and yeah I kinda noticed it when in GO mats it's said how he always apologizes because he thinks everything wrong was his fault, which wasn't as big of a deal in Apo, there he just wanted to fight for something he believed in and not just for what was asked of him
>>169226585
That's not only neutral that's the smart thing to do

>>169226650
Projection Magic.
Not even once.

>>169226520
>some literal who being Grand Archer instead of Gilgamesh/Herakles/a curry

>>169206934
Is his second page translated somewhere?

>>169226650
he's from a parallel universe where it is always valentines so he is made out of chocolate

>Implying grand archer won't be EMIYA

>>169226862
>implying it won't be EMIYA Alter

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so... the fuck is this?

is liz grand lancer?

>>169226736
>That's not only neutral that's the smart thing to do
If it was a normal person, sure. Atalanta was a Heroic Spirit. She could have saved them easily, at no cost to herself, but actively decided not to because she was disgusted they had unknowingly stumbled into it in the first place. That isn't "not caring if they live or die", that's "actively wanting them to die as punishment for something they couldn't control".

>>169226650
He did magic wrong way too fucking much, even more than the normal EMIYA
Can't explain the lips though

>>169226736
I don't really mind it, Since his personality itself is mostly the same, Quiet but passionate about certain things. I just noticed that the mats changed his "origin"(?) a bit so he's more self-deprecative than quietly helping people out in the way he thinks is best. they don't REALLY clash with each other but it is a noticeable change.

>>169225850
I use a command seal on each of the loli troop to dance the prisma illya dance for me.
You know the one.
I die of diabetes soon after.

>>169226650
Mad Enhancement.

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>>169226925
WE

>>169226925
A young Japanese man.

>>169226939
Why would she save them? She is not the one who actively put them in harm, that's only neutral. Please don't give me "it's the right thing to do"

>>169226925
MoS Shirou

>>169227141
Letting them die out of hate isn't a neutral course of action, its an actively evil one you fucking autist

>>169226925
Now we'll get emiya black ntring emiya fucking saber,rin and sakura(kek) while emiya watch

>>169226320
>>169226585
>>169226736
After FGO I definitely don't see Atalanta as Evil. Nasu portrayed her as neutral and even kinda good in Okeanos. She's more of a "go with the flow to avoid struggles" or "doing stuff convenient for me". I would say she's more of an anti-heroine. But that's probably because Nasu kind improved the personalities of some characters in FGO. Jeanne just fucking sucked in Apocrypha, she was just an archetype, not a character (person) at all, but Nasu repaired that to some extent in her lines and France.

>>169227141
It is the right thing to do if you're not a sociopath. Actively letting people die when you can prevent it, and doing it because she was disgusted with them rather than any logical or practical reason is fucking evil.

>>169227141
Choosing not to save someone because it'd involve significant cost to yourself isn't evil, but choosing not to save someone because you couldn't be bothered definitely is.

>>169227312
Atalanta in GO is practically a different character to Apocrypha, yeah.

>>169227312
>Jeanne just fucking sucked in Apocrypha, she was just an archetype, not a character (person) at all
Then why do so many people like Arthur?

>>169227264
>>169227332
>>169227410
Still seems pretty neutral to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQBsmyoWCg8

Breast vore when?

>>169226925
now i really need an anime about somebody summonning him and finding out that he speak with some ridicolous rappish and dumb slang, and throwing a "Nigga" there and there.

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>>169226925
>black man uses guns for weapons
>FF13 also had a black man who uses guns for weapons

What is Japan trying to tell me

>>169227481
Pretty sure you're the evil one, then.

>>169227431
The more shit from Apoc that gets retconned the better. The anime's gonna lead to some comfy shitposting to be sure.

>>169227481
Congrats then, your alignment is Evil.
>>169227480
Great design and they project some of their affection for Saber onto him.

Also he's pretty bro in Fragments when interacting with anyone besides Manaka's crew.

>>169227481
Then you're a sociopath. Congrats on qualifying for Evil.

King Hassan almost makes me wish I played GO

>>169227601
>>169227558
>>169227725
Nah I wouldn't hurt people myself, I just won't help them if I don't know them. I seriously doubt anyone would act differently honestly

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>>169227481
Are evilcatfags this retarded?

>>169227805
He's wasted potential, in my opinion. He could've been some important figure but instead he's just some rando as far as we know.

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>>169227805
D O K O D A
O
K
O

D
A

>>169227805
the chances of you rolling him were like 5%
tbqh the only reason why I'm still playing is because I always manage to roll 5*s that I want aside from Edgemond without spending any money

>>169227819
You may need to take a step back here for a second, anon.

>>169227556
Niggers can't even shoot straight. They shouldn't be associated with guns.

>>169227819
Mate anyone who isn't literally evil would rescue a group of innocent people if they could do so at zero risk to themselves and with minimal effort.

you're a fucking cunt, face up to it

>>169227923
From my point of view, you are the evil ones!

>>169225013
>b-b-but she did it all for someone else and adhered to a strict moral code!" excuse.
Maybe listen to someone actually rationalize it and make fun of those rationalizations, rather than creating insane reasons on your own. She was doing it for herself

>>169227819
>I seriously doubt anyone would act differently honestly
"altruism don't real" - anon

>>169227601
You can't really talk shit about Jeanne for just being an archetype and then turning a blind-eye to arthur because his archetype appeals to you. Just say you dislike and find her dull.

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>>169227916
>5%

>>169227819
If I had the power to help someone from losing their life I'd do it if it's within the act of losing my life in the process I wouldn't though. But like the anon above me said that not saving someone because it's inconvenient to you is pretty fucked up.

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>>169226925
>Kiritsugu won the holy grail and tried to use it, failed and killed a newborn avenger and then went to detroid , saved a boy called Jamal and this Jamal Emiya went with his father to japan.


so, +18 VN of this "Shirou" when?

>>169227558
>>169227601
>>169227725
>Neutral can be a dangerous alignment when it represents apathy, indifference, and a lack of conviction.
I dunno, not saving some people because she doesn't want to sounds very neutral.

>>169227819

Are you chinese by any chance?

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f4_1430978170

>>169227984
Maybe if they didn't hold the gun sideways they could.

>>169228078
I'm not the one who called her an archetype and I also don't like Arthur. I was just explaining why some others do.

>>169228207
b-but muh glawk fowty nigguh

Objectively I have to agree with "Atalanta Neutral" anons. Medb, Gilles, Liz, Caligula and Elizabeth, now those guys are evil. Atalanta just didn't do enough to earn the evil status. That's the reason "Evil Cat" is more of a meme, than somethng serious. Hell, even Nasu himself coudn't write her as an evildoer.

>>169228170
This is on top of killing people who lost to her in a race.

>>169228205
What's surprising is that the boy survived with little injury. But I still don't understand why you would kick a little boy's ass for no reason.

>>169228247
Ah, my mistake then.

>>169228302
She told them so

>>169227819
So you wouldn't save a group of innocents when it wouldn't inconvenience or harm you in the slightest, just because you think it's their own fault even when it isn't? Because yeah, that's evil.

>>169228170
She didn't not save them because she didn't want to. She wasn't apathetically letting them die. She actively decided that they weren't worth saving because they only had themselves to blame for accidentally stumbling into the Mist they had no way of knowing was actually fatal to them. What part of that do you not get?

>>169228170
She doesn't seem apathetic or indifferent to other sources of suffering and rages because of the ""child"" ""murdering"" thing, so calling her Evil still seems pretty clearcut.

>>169227819
I know this feel.

Help /fgog/ someone is playing sax on the street what servant should I call for help

>>169228170
It's already been explained to you several times that she wasn't apathetic and actively wanted them to die just because she was disgusted by them for not being able to save themselves you autist

>>169228543
Mozart

>>169227892
I feel the same way. He should have been Cain, it would have fit perfectly and he could still be exactly how he is. Now there isn't any point in him even existing.

>>169228543
Hassan.

>>169228543
Servant Scatman

>>169228543

>needing a servant for something like that

Just bring your tamborin and show him who's the boss.

>>169228407
Why would I? How can I be evil if I literally did nothing to them? Doing nothing to someone else screams neutral to me. And for fucks sake you can't tell me most people would help that is crazy and makes no sense

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>>169228543
Looks like you need to show him who's the boss here

>>169228591
Still fucking neutral.

>>169226929
Liz is Grand Cancer

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>>169228543
Tristan so he can show him who's the best at music.

>>169228127
>franchise is centered around legendary figures
>one particular figure is extolled as the One True Assassin, the alpha and omega when it comes to assassinating
>isn't any of the figures actually associated with assassination
>isn't even a figure not associated with assassination at all and somehow bullshitted into the class
>he's just someone no one's ever heard of before

>>169228290
Not all evildoers are bad.

>>169224829
Can you TL the Scat page too

please

>>169228302
Nothing compared to Iskander, Nero, and King Arthur's military/ruler deeds who are "Good". Those guys crossed more evil and good line than Atalanta. Besides, she had to protect her virnginity oath, didn't do the killing herself, and the execution was to dissuade every horny man who wanted to fuck her.

>>169228680
Not doing anything isn't an excuse. You have the means to save someone, they are right in front of you and if you do one thing they will live, you're choosing not to save them for no reason. You're just a cunt

>>169225694
That's a problem I have with the guy who always bitchs about Atlanta alignment. He always shifts it so you're only allowed to focus on her ideals basically. She's done some evil shit as well but "No, she loves kids. Love of kids is all she is so that's all there is to it! There's no argument, the only thing about her is loving children so she's good"

We have characters who want good things or have good ideals but are still evil as shit. How you go about those goals or interactions kinda determines your alignment, rather than the goal itself. Just repeating that she "wants something good" isn't the argument in itself.

>>169228773
But anon isn't the greatest Assassin the assassin you've never heard of? No one lived to tell the tale so he is the best Assassin.

>>169228797
Nero's alignment is delusional wanking at the finest.

>>169228680
Doing nothing is a deliberate choice as well, anon. Choosing not to help people for whatever reason when you're able and there's no real risk or even investment just because you don't feel like it is evil.

You seem bizarrely lacking in empathy.

NASU alignment > REAL alignment

EVIL > GOOD or NEUTRAL
GOOD > EVIL or NEUTRAL
NEUTRAL > GOOD or EVIL

>>169228663
Is this where anon's legend begins?
Servant Anon. NP: Tambourine of Admonishment.

>>169228825
But why would I save them? That doesn't make any sense. I would just be losing my time if I'm not attached to anyone there or couldn't see any benefit from it. How can you compare it to the one who actually put them into harm and saying I'm as evil as him?
>>169228979
You fucks are all lying I doubt any of you would do anything it makes no sense, it goes against any logic.

>>169228732
>hate
>neutral
not how it works fucko

>>169228979
>Choosing not to help people for whatever reason when you're able and there's no real risk or even investment just because you don't feel like it is evil.
No that's neutral.

>>169228680
In my country, not helping people in danger can be punished by law.

>>169227312
Dude, everyone in fgo is child mitts version of themselves so guda doesn't die

Look at liz, in extella she's back to her old self and it's a stark contrast from fgo

>>169229083
I don't think you need a reason to save somebody's life.

>>169228787
no because scat a shit

>>169229141
>Geologists got fucked by the law in Italy because they failed to predict an earth quake

>>169229104
Hate is the standard emotion to feel about anyone.
Acting on your hate and killing someone=evil
Not acting on you hate and letting them live=neutral
Not hating someone=good

>>169229141
How would your country solve the trolley problem?

>fgo in one thread proves evil cat meme was just waifu crying and that her alignment was accurate all along

>>169229083
Because both of you are dooming them to death

>>169229141
Yeah and in my country giving treatment to animals for free if they are from a poor family can also be punished by law. Countries and laws are a pretty bad standard
>>169229197
If I don't have a reason why would I do it? Of course I need a fucking reason, even if I were to lie like you guys and say "it's because it's the right thing to do" my belief in that would be a reason.

>>169229262
>Hate is the standard emotion to feel about anyone.
'Sup Dantes. Since when do they have internet in prison?

>>169229141
Your country is then objectively evil.

>>169229315
Random passer by, Given the kind of shit people can do and get away with a "Neutral" being slapped onto their statpage.
I'd say she's neutral.

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>there are posters
>in this very general
>that wouldn't save a life if they could

Is /fgog/ filled with evil people?

>>169229262
Hatred is not the natural state of man.

>>169229349
By that reason their mothers doomed them to death by giving birth to them. I did no harm
>>169229463
You can't be serious about this, obviously most wouldn't

She sounds rather Chaotic Neutral to me, at least in that specific Mist case. Other "deeds" would no doubt push her into Evil.

>>169228732
Even to Nasu she seems more appropriate as Neutral, this is evident in Okeanos. Let's leave it at that, because everybody fucking knows that Alignments are entirely non-sensical stuff half of the time. Honeslty, after Meltlilith I just don't care about what's written, but more about the role the character has through various entries. Tamamo despite being evil, acts more like an antiheroine and heroine most of the time. I can tell that either Nasu regretted her making her evil or that the alignment applies more to her monster form.

>>169229197
Well you are wrong.

>>169229083
>It goes against logic
But it doesn't. Utilitarian, If you could save someone's life at no or little cost to you that's a massive boost to all sorts of popularity, morality, etc. You could even be physically rewarded for your efforts be it in gifts or sex or any number of things. There would be no logical reason to NOT save someone.

>>169229463

IF YOU DON'T SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE

SHIROU BECAME A CG FOR NOTHING!

>>169229365
Are you some kind of faggotty "nothing matters at all" nihilist?

>>169229463
There's more people that are scolding that way of thinking than not, so I'd say the Seigi no Mikatas are majority right now.

>>169229285
With a lot of debates and nobody being happy in the end.

>>169229539
I think nasu just has his head up his ass.

>>169229365
You are a fucked up person anon, I do sincerely hope you learn how to feel empathy in the future.

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>>169229463
I killed a guy once.

>>169223231
I'd buy one.

>>169229315
We also proved that not a single Good or Neutral servant actually exists, everyone is fucking evil.

>>169229463
More like socially retarded people. If you can easily save someone with no cost to yourself then it costs you more to not do it. It's not even a selfish choice it's just fucking stupid.

>>169229083
>it goes against any logic.
It doesn't. Saving someone yields all kinds of rewards, while leaving them be robs you of any possible reward. It doesn't make any sense to leave them be, provided it requires neither significant risk nor investment of time or resources on your part.

>>169229463
Depends on whose life it its and what I'd have to do to save it

>>169229539
>tamamo exists therefore alignments are wrong
>we see her real personality in extella and her alignment fit all along
Stop using her as an example. We've known her "normal personality" was a facade since original extra

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>>169229686
Flustered Saber Alter is that you?

>>169229539
Aren't Anti-heroes evil by Nasu's standards?

>>169229557
>>169229779
But in that case there would be benefits, then it makes sense. But for her saving them would benefit her in nothing, she would just be wasting time
>>169229618
Nah I believe every life has a meaning that you can choose for yourself, I just find it strange that not saving someone is evil for some reason
>>169229659
I feel empathy, for people I know and care about is that really strange?

Come on, the "neutral" guys are baiting, right?
Nobody can be this fucked up, r-right?

>>169229463
Depends on how much of a risk I'd have to put myself in.

>>169229463
Why the fuck should I save somebody for nothing? If there is nothing to gain by doing it then go fucking die.

>>169229813
>>169229686
I need a Flustered Saber Alter edit now.

>>169229779
In short, without any previous knowledge of a human being in danger, saving them brings you the most benefits just because a living person can create/produce as long as they live and a dead person is just matter.

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>>169229463
I'm not going to if it's to my detriment in a grail war, that's for sure. Good thing the my top choice of servant would be more likely to go Giles on the local population rather than moralfag over them.

>>169229510
What? No, that person's mother did not do that you fucking moron.

Interacting with someone isn't dooming them to die, I'm not a mass murderer because I've said Hi to a few people who may have died later on in life. However I would be a terrible person if I didn't try to help others out of situations that would fucking kill them if I just stood and watched.

You're like the sort of cunt who would sit back and record someone getting mauled by a pit bull screaming for help while holding a glock 21 in his other hand

>>169229880
Not really, I'm honestly baffled that not helping isn't a consensus and am trying to understand it

>>169227916
Someone with as much luck as you won't be a very good catalyst for a servant that canonically doesn't have any.
Unless you whale, of course.

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>>169229880
I WARNED YOU ABOUT THEM BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN

>>169229907
This man speaks the logical truth.

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>>169229463
I would save a life but I would charge them a fee afterwards desu, there's a doujin I really want to buy

>>169229980
Because most people aren't autists who can't comprehend that helping people is a good thing to do

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>it goes against all logic to save lives in a situation where you could do so at no cost or inconvenience to yourself

>>169229951
The mother person gave birth to them, thus enabling them to die. It's not simple interaction how the fuck did you get to that?

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>>169229907

>>169225749
This game is only a 100 dollar steak if you whale.

>>169230093
Why is it good? Is it good in itself? Because I can see it being good from benefits it might give in the future I can give people that. But for nothing? I find it hard to believe people really do that

>>169229686
This but unironically.

Growing up in East Berlin fucking sucked.

>>169230107
The only time you shouldn't save someone is if it comes at a a huge personal cost and or the person dig his own grave.

I feel like there's a point we're all overlooking here.

Achilles is a fucking terrible judge of character and also has awful taste in women.

>>169230110
Every parent is guilty of murder but they pay for that crime by dying themselves so it evens out in the end.

>>169229463
Don't worry man. I'm Lawful Good.
Just like Amakusa.

>>169229907
You get the satisfaction of doing a good deed and the appreciation from the person you saved

>>169230110
for some reason I could see Spartacus using this logic

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>fgog is full of uncaring monsters

I hate this fucking general

>people here saying they would help save a life
>get mad when newfags ask for help
You guys can't even help by writing something to someone else you are full of shit

>>169230268
Storytime?

>>169230074
Hell ask them to buy you a comic book and they'll do it. I would if somebody saved my life. What's a few couple bucks to my fucking life.

I love how anons say that Atalanta is evil for not helping bystanders, when in the original FSN novel Cu and EMIYA either do the killing or don't give a shit about innocent's lives and they get to keep their neutral personality alignment.

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>>169230268
What do you mean unironically?

>>169230267
You're either actually autistic, or you're fishing for replies.

>>169230267
It's called altruism. Most people can and will do good things because being and doing good is the right thing to do. If you want to bring logic into it, being good feels good. Knowing you saved a life is the kind of thing that would keep you going if you were down someday.

>>169230370
>You get the satisfaction of doing a good deed
No I don't.
>and the appreciation from the person you saved
Don't care.

>>169230267
Yes. There are things which are objectively good and bad. It's not that hard.

>>169230410

We are helping them in the long run.

>>169229850
>But for her saving them would benefit her in nothing, she would just be wasting time
She's a Heroic Spirit. It'd cost her next to nothing to save people from a terrible fate they didn't deserve and weren't able to avoid.

Though being honest you seem fundamentally incapable of empathy for others that aren't in your immediate vicinity (if that), so I doubt we'll ever get our point across.

>>169230423
At least in Cu's case Shirou is the only innocent we know of him killing, and he hated doing it. He's just stuck with a shitty master waiting for a chance to get revenge

>>169230418
I don't want them to know it's a yaoi doujin though, so I need to purchase it myself.

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>>169230268
Tell us the story anon.

>>169230472
Don't cut yourself on that edge

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Best OTP

>>169230423
Like >>169229427 said.
People have done worse shit and gotten slapped with a meaty neutral on their status page.

>>169230267
There's even a name for it and theories that we may have very well evolved into the current humans and our capacity to gather by evolving the altruism impulse.

>>169230343
That makes sense
>>169230442
Autistic but trying to understand your points
>>169230448
I know that word, and I know most people also aren't altruistic the current state of the world proves it and that's why I find it so weird that so many people think it's the norm

>>169230268
D'you think that changes your perspective on BUILDWALL memes?

>>169230423
There's a difference between a random guy being killed because the rules of the war demand it since he saw them fighting, and that person feeling awful for doing it, and someone actively letting uninvolved people die because they were disgusted these people couldn't save themselves.

>>169230423
> Cu Chulainn
Is doing what he is ordered to do by his Master, and his Master is Father Asshole himself. Cu even apologized to Shirou for it.

> EMIYA
Is willing to do what it takes for Rin to win. He's also a massive poser who pretends to be edgier than he is. See also: The "cat in tree" scene from HA.

10 HOURS UNTIL SINSUKI

>>169230676
There's a difference between walls meant to keep people out and walls meant to keep people in, anon.

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>general full of edgelords
>but somehow Zero is too edgy

>>169230596
Edgy would be to want to see the person get hurt. Not wanting to get involved or not caring is neutral.

>>169230410
Not helping someone out in terms of knowing the ways around something is more helpful then spoonfeeding them. You read the OP it's all in there. But not helping idiots who don't read the OP is different then not helping someone who's about to die if it's within your power to do so.

>>169230410
Im sure your life wont be over if I dont tell you which 4* you should get.

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>>169230554
The murders that were happening around town that Shirou hears about in the first three days were done by Cu

>>169230554
Cu killed his best friend and son, and the UBW anime (supervised by Nasu) showed that Shirou was for from being the only victim of the lancer dog. EVIL CAT's deeds pale in comparison with NEUTRAL DOG's.

>>169230413
There were two times. One accidental, one not.

>15 years old
>Coming home from school
>Jumped by gang of poor teens
>Start beating me as friend runs for help, I try fight back
>Classmates arrive and try help
>During fight I knock guy down and he crack head open on curb
>We all run when we see so much blood
>Later hear dead boy was found on that street, but since he was homeless nobody cared

Another time I found a man trying to rape my neighbours daughter in bushes and dragged him out and stomped his head until he died. Nobody caught me for that either.

I fucking hate Berlin.

Good people can do evil things sometimes, evil people can do good things too. That's what Nasu is trying to tell us since a long time ago. Alignments (good/neutral/evil) are meant to explain the nature of the servants, the motivations that lead them to act the way they do.

>>169230764
Zero is comfy

>>169230370
Not good enough lol

>>169230423
Well Cu is forced to, and Emiya's end goal is retconning his own existence anyway. Plus said existence envolves killing thousands more than any killcount in SN.

>>169230764
Most people seem to be in disagreement to be fair.

>>169230764
We're largely not edgelords, that's actually the problem.

>>169230619
>>169230551
There might be something wrong with me then. I still think she is neutral specially in comparison to other alignments in the series, but I will concede that apparently not helping is an evil deed even if that sounds weird to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBmRl4q8Gl0

>>169230816
You did the right thing on that second one.
FIrst one seems like a pretty shitty accident.

>>169230771
Is Kuzuki your favorite Fate character?

>>169230816
Holy crackers anon

>>169230764
/fgog/ seems rather divided to me, leaning towards more seigi no mikatas than not.