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>NEWS

2/26 UPDATE:
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0074

Read this guide for the upcoming GranBlueF event: http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

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Shadowverse is a free-to-play, collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/

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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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Learn about the mechanics and classes here:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR

FAQ for newbies:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Netdeck and Meta trends:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/
http://game-ai.jp/

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Good cards to pick in Take Two (Arena) (credit to @pekonyan_sv):
http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Take 2 Card Rankings from some dude called msmochi (Warning: Severely outdated):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

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Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U

Art package (Basic, Classic, DE, ROB):
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Last: >>168969973
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>piercing rune 2PP is nuthing
>I'll just take out all my 1PP followers

/svg/ opinions.
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>>168987324
It's a tech for consistency or being able to get by/breaking wards. It's also the backbone of Cursed General Storm royal
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>dragon becomes tier 1
>piercing rune and gobu are getting nerfed
>dragon untouched

what a time to be alive
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DELETE ROACH
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>>168987376
Pretty much.

/svg/ doesn't know shit about this game.
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>Still no buffs for cuckcraft
Oh boy
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>>168987376
Most of /svg/ thought Bahamut is trash anon.
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I want to burn Arisa's forest with all her fairies and elves and roaches inside while I order a billion orc taking turn pumping her with cum while forcing her to watch her forest burn.
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SHADOWVERSE TRACKER UPDATED

https://github.com/sleeplessghost/ShadowverseTracker

- Allow users to delete games, re-index all games on launch to allow backwards compatibility (old versions of games did not have id).
- Allow users to specify number of turns/notes for games (optional).
- Fix IconChanger and ShadowverseTracker not correctly setting the form and taskbar icon as the exe icon.
- Added build script (requires .NET Framework v4.*).
- Minor code improvements.
- README updated.
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>>168987625
virus
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>>168987606
how dare you
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Shadowcraft.

2/2 7PP

Fanfare: Summon your highest cost follower and activate their fanfare.

What do you think, anons?
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>>168987606
>want to burn down her forest
>not wanting to hunt her down, rape her, and take an ear as a trophy
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>>168987748
>7pp bahamut
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>>168987748
>t7 santa
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>>168987748
This is how you turn this game to Piratestone, but worse.
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>>168987748
It'd get more out of control with every expansion. And it's bullshit since basically you have 7pp bahamut/olivia/pluto/etc
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>>168987748
Shadowcraft
0PP Spell
Deal damage to the enemy Eris equal to the total attack of all your banished followers.
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/OURGUY/
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>>168987719
compile it urself then you big babby
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Will Shadowverse has something similar to Yugioh's D.D?
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>>168987816
>>168987863
>>168987864
>>168987867

What if she only summoned shadowcraft followers?
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>>168987467
But you still get buttfucked by tier 2 elf deck Rowen.
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>>168987979
Maybe he be anally penetrated by a thousand Piercing Runes.
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>1/1,storm, 1pp
>Play this from your deck when you play a fairy
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>>168987979
I'm glad you died, piece of shit.
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>>168988007
Ehh.

What high cost followers do shadowcraft have that's worth summoning?
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>away with the seraph
away with the seraph
>away with the seraph
away with the seraph
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>>168988034
>Dorothy Tempovich
Why didn't anyone tell me Dorothy is a Slav?
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>>168988062

Basically the idea I had was a card that would make Tyrant decks viable.
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>>168988062
More dick guy
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>>168988036
No thanks Ben Brode
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>Turn 6 Evolve + Valhalla General a Manyuu straight to face
GET LIBERATED DSHIFT FAGGOT
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Anyone knows how to convert these files into usable formats like .wav? I thought you could simply drag them into VGMToolbox > Misc. Tools > Extraction Tools > Streams > CRI HCA Extractor, but no luck so far.
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>>168987748
Shadowcraft
0pp Amulet
Fanfare: Banish the account of the opposing player if they are playing Havencraft

>>168988007
>t7 summon Khawy, Mordecai, lich, and destroy an opponents follower

>>168988062
Nothing really. Especially since it's a fetch.

>>168988147
11/13 mainyu meme when?
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>>168987467
Indeed.
While I can beat darias if I dont get shit draws now I will have and easier time.
And maybe with the sudden raise of nep neps then I can start to have fun again.
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So what deck forest deck is going to be tier 1 now?
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>>168987993
>compile a virus yourself, when you compile it yourself it's not a virus :^)
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>>168988260
>Shadowcraft
>0pp Amulet
>Fanfare: Banish the account of the opposing player if they are playing Havencraft

How about a trap card that reverses the effect of Seraph.
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>Cursed general storm royal is dead on Feb 26th
Roach shitters can still do 3 times the damage unimpeded turns earlier. Give me my dank memes back you fucks.
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>>168988306

Why is Arisa such a jellybean?
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>>168988332
That'd be cool. Fucking destroy/banish spamming shitlords
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>>168988332
>8 PP cost amulet, 4 count down
>if you were to lose the game while this amulet is in play, win instead
>last word: lose the game
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>>168987606
You need jesus.
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>>168988332
Glorious Revolution
0PP
Take control of an enemy countdown amulet, then add all amulet reduction cards in your opponent's hand to your own hand and change their cost to 0.
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>>168988279
>discard memes
spicy
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>Though that Forte is a glorious 180+cm lady of war
>Learned that she's actually a 130cm shorty

All of my why
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>>168988515
>amulet steal effect
I want this.
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>>168988332

Spartoi Hag Destroyer
1 pp 1/2
Fanfare: if your opponent plays Haven, you win the game. Shadows (4): also ban that player's account
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>>168988641

Perfect height for blowjobs.

What did you think those handles on her head were for?
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>>168988641
Only in GBF. In Bahamut she's the first.
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>>168988641
Because her source material she's just a short breeding cow background character
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>>168988701
Manlet
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>>168988504
Only if Jesus help purge Arisa's roaches.
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I'm so excited for new story mode and I don't even know why. The story is not that great.
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>>168988745
It ended on a cliffhanger.
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>>168988701
>>168988701
>>168988713
Do not badmount Dorkte or you're gonna pay for it
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Friendly reminder that control blood is the thinking man's deck.
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>>168988745
I'm excited about all the free shit we'll get from it and the Elite 2 AIs achievements.

>inb4 30 vials
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>>168988641
I wish Forte is 180+cm too (she's about 160cm). I'm a sucker for badass and tall but girly girls.
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>>168988814
oh yeah

you'll be thinking all right

thinking why you wasted the vials to build such a shit deck
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Memelords of memeverse, it's time to rise up to create the greatest thinkin man's deck.
Assemble the Fluted wyrm spire ramp of legend to meme streak for 10 games to make the meta great again
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>>168988814
Cblood's hard counter just died so I guess dshift is going to make a comeback
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>>168988870
>thinking why you wasted the vials to build such a shit deck
I wasn't talking about ramp dragon though.
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>>168988846

I want to Urd Urd's Urds.
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>>168988641
But short girls are cute
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I'm addicted to meme decks. I can't rank up for shit. Help.
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>>168988925
jesus

that's not a puffy vulva

that's a saggy used cooter
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Bunnycraft when?
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>>168988949
Deosn't matter dude, lower rank means easier 1 pack ranked missions
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>>168988925
Only manlets think short girls are cute.
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>>168988925
>>168988972
It honestly looks like she's got a pair of balls.
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>>168988976
Lovecraft first.
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>>168988972
>>168989069
N-NO BULLY
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>>168988641
Cow Forte is a mistake and is no way canon in RoB or Shadowverse and no, the gbf sleeves doesn't make RoB/SV Forte a cow
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>>168988814
Dire Breach
3PP Amulet
Any effect that would restore defense to a leader instead deals the same amount of damage to them.
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>9 face damage from fangslayer
Why is this allowed
Why the hell does his face damage scale
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Need a private match senpaitachi: 52309
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>>168988579
Nothing gets me more rock hard than getting a good ramp and drawing rites or my tutors before T9 and gets to drop it on a Daria vomit.
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>>168989056
I'm 190cm and I think stacked short girls are the goddamn best.
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>>168989274
Thanks senpai.
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>>168989321

I'm a tall guy too and I also like shortstacks.
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Reminder that Nephthys is the one true god and you should remove Saha Luci heretics.
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>>168989174
that wallpaper is dope
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>>168989321
>>168989516
Same
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Is Mastema any good in control blood?
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>>168989597
>Control blood
Anon...
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>When the meme surpasses the meme

>>168989248
Because sword has dick draw/board clear/burn/removal
He's an officer
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>>168989537
Saha is CUTE and luci is her best friend do not bully!
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Win 1 private match - pls help

62103
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>>168989597
>5pp do nothing
>can't remove things without ward
Maybe
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>>168989597
>can't be used to control the board
>is it good in control, you guys?
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>>168989174
>>168988713
So are you saying we got another generic, shitty totally-not-loli character instead of a thicc, respectable dragon lady?
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>all 3 D shifts are at the bottom 8 cards of my deck
>still somehow manage to win at 1 hp
WEW
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>>168989537
To bad for you I dont run saha + luci in my deck
Nep shadow is a favorable match up for me.
Only leggo I use.
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>>168989712
Yupper
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>>168989682
ty ding dong
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Shadow mains are the Jews of Shadowverse. They're always fucking bitching about muh 6 gorillion banished last words, They always bitch about DE Haven, even though they were pure cancer in vanilla (le 11 on 6 from hand with 2 cards). They always exggrate how good or played Haven is.

>Haven play rate (white nationalism) is on the rise goy! Us poor honest, totally not aggro Shadow players need more fair card (shekels) like Phantom Howl and Khawy.

The Shadow player (Jew) fears the Haven player (samurai).
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>>168989537
My Saha Dirt laughs at your last words.
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>>168989836
this
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>>168989791
This is why I play Rowen.
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>8 cards t4 and higher in my deck
>draw them all in the first 3 turns
Getting a bit riled up here.
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>>168989730
>when you play kaiba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4v351FhLfo
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>>168989712
>thicc
Discard that, I suck cocks.
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>>168989880
>your belly will never be vampy's spot
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>>168989880

Who's the semen demon in the bottom left panel?
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>>168989989
>your belly
>not your lap
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>>168990007

>your lap
>not your cock
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>>168989712
Shorte is thicc, regular is is skinny but still strong enough to ride on a dragon and dual-wield lances.
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>>168989880
Cute!
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>>168989836
Imagine you're a haven player and you live in bizzaro world where rune banishes your every major play and breaks all your noncd amulets without having to kill themselves drawing and playing 1 of 3 understatted hard to use brick-prone cards to do it like everyone else.
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Last thread was pretty spicy. Anyways, I was trying to look up shadowverse stuff on japanese twitter and found these cookies.
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>>168990001
DJ
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>>168989934
It's why I stopped trying to meme with Neptits. I would without fail draw all of my Morts by turn 5 every game.
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>>168990051
>but still strong enough to ride on a dragon and dual-wield lances.

Real talk, no human being would be able to wield two lances at once.

Forte is superhuman.
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>>168990089
I WANT TO TASTE LUNA-CHANS COOKIE
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>>168990169
Just imagine when she wield two dicks black & white at once
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>>168990139

Thanks!
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>>168989537
The day of Judgement dawns, soon little ones like Sahaquiel will never have to fight and suffer in horrible wars... Till then we persevere. Convince Nephthys to align with us and your survival is assured. For the Creator is the highest amongst all

>>168989665
Damn traitor, and anyway that's Mirin(lucky dude to have such a good friend). Luci has his work to do after all the destruction he's caused, If it wasn't for him Levi would still be alive along with the countless of others who have suffered at his hands ;_;
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>>168990042
Why would I rest a little girl on my rooster? That's animal cruelty, anon.
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>>168987467
>like dragon but will never have all the legos needed
This is not fair.
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>>168990268
Every tier 1 deck is going to need odins and bahamuts pretty soon.
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>>168987748
11/10 for creativity, this is exactly what shadow needs!
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>>168990078
Still a better match up than control vs D.Shift, or Elf vs CBlood, or Dirt/D.Shift vs Seraph. Shadow whiners are the only ones who complain about having a single fucking truly bad match up. Whereas all other classes (except clearly OP bullshit like Elf and Daria that Shadow players want their class to be equal to) have 1,2, or even more bad match ups with a less than 40% win rate.
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>>168987467
>piercing rune and gobu are getting nerfed
Wait what
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>>168990268
>He fell for the lego meme
Just ramp up and beat them retarded. What legos and golds do you have?
It's a bit old but this helps explain the cards to you. https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/4qsj49/some_bare_bones_deckbuilding_tips_for_dragoncraft/

>>168990475
Read the news post in the op.
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>>168988306
Wolfbolt
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>>168990490
>linking to redit
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>piercing rune and gobu gets nerfed
>kahwy doesn't

l m a o

Get fucked dragon boys
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>>168990148
For me it's Albert, everytime i try to exchange him for a lower card i get at least one Albert back.
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>>168989248
They want to make sure you're in Alberto range next turn.
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>>168990542
>Googling the deckbuilder
>Has a result with a good explanation of dragon cards pre-RoB
Grow up
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>>168990557
>*banishes internally*
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Daily reminder you can Emissary double cavalier pheonix roost to 0 cost as well as emissary a second for a 2 cost roost to play up to 4 gilgamesh/forte/seabrand in a turn.
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>>168990441
>Dirt vs Seraph
that was literally his point, imagine if dirt rune were as prevalent as haven in DE, not only shadow, but haven would also have a truly hopeless matchup and you'd see havenfags crying everywhere

>Shadow whiners are the only ones who complain about having a single fucking truly bad match up
dragon
>except clearly OP bullshit like Elf and Daria that Shadow players want their class to be equal to
baseless strawman
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>>168988846
she is canonically 125cm tall
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>>168990797
>thanks for wasting your odin on him, now deal with morde lmao
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>>168990441
>b-but muh Dshift

Every time.
Seraph is almost as bad as Dshift unless you happen to run and draw Odin and is literally forcing everyone to use it or insta lose. Dshift and Control shit on every other control deck, yet on top of that Haven also shits extra hard exclusively on Shadow. Cuckgel and Scripture are really bad for shadow because they deny the usage of their fucking craft ability on top of the usual removal every other class gets.

I hope they make a class that specializes on preventing amulets activation and then see how you'll feel.
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>>168990557
>Guy plays khawy
>Draconify it and face for lethal
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>>168990797
>banish 7pp with 8pp
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>>168989597
it's an aggro card though
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>>168990872
Only Shorte is that tall.
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>>168990169
>Forte is superhuman.
She's not even human.
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>>168990943
>Dragon
>Not being 4 PP ahead of you
lmaoing at your life to be honest
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>>168990943
>Emissary
>Cavalier
>Getting Any ramp in 6 turns
>Simply going first
You're drunk catalog trolls, go home.
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>>168990627
How about you fuck off redditor
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>>168991041
She's not human, because she's my cocksleeve.
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>opened 10 packs and got another copy

Nep, you know I praise your name, but not like this.

3 to one animated when
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>Olivia fig.

I didn't expect to find this in my country.
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>>168991203
What country?
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>>168991129
delet
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>>168991203
Probably fake product made in china.
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>>168991152

And I got this too. Am I just unlucky or what? I haven't even opened a normal version.
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>>168991341
that's a cute butt
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>card is problematic

>Card is lowered in power, but is still playable.

Is this what competent devving looks like?
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Forte is only good for lewd and breeding.
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Please give a concede.
13936
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>>168991341
>>168991152
You got a legendary and an animated Gold. You are not unlucky at all.
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>>168991235

chile
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>>168990564
>It happened again
Albert please stop.
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>>168990490
>casually linking to reddit
kek'd bretty hard my dude
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Need concede please: 38037
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>>168991592

Well, to be exact.

I already have 3 albert, though. And now a playset of memelon
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>bloodcraft quest
>go unranked
>only queue into d-shift
All to easy
Feels good getting these 3 games done so quick
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>>168991816
Thanks!
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>>168990557
Implying I care when I just salamanders breath him and then dragoon your ass.
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>Elf players already bitching and whining
Truly the subhumans of our species. Literally post Homecoming bitching all over again. It's apparently not fucking fair for their deck to have a weakness.
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>>168987467
>>dragon becomes tier 1
what did I miss?
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>>168987526
REMOV ROACHES!
REMOV DRAGONS!
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>>168991110
I'm a 4chaner and a resource is a resource
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I'm making a dork folder, post all the dorks you can find right now.
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>>168987467
>>168991989
>Implying dragon isn't tier 1 already
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>>168991819
explode luckshitter

still waiting for my 3rd dragoon so I can meme
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>>168992020

kys dubcuck
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>>168991989
A couple weeks ago a guy went into the tourney with his saha-luci ramp dragon deck and blew them the fuck out. That popularized it, netdecks were made and it took off. It's more neutralcraft than dragon though.
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>>168992114
2's plenty. Put in a serpent's force for reach or seabrand/gilgamesh for another storm
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>>168992020
One thing at a time, faggot. We have to see how the landscape of the game changes with these two incredibly significant nerfs first.
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>>168992386
Yeah gilga is decent because you can basically transform your sahas into additional gilgas
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>>168992420
>Incredibly significant
>Still kills 2 followers for 4pp with still 4/4

>>168992546
>tfw cavalier/emissary'd sahaquiel+urd on t10 for 10 face and a 12/11 3-follower board
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>There are people unironically complain about dragon.
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>>168992420
>Roach just uses its 1/2 roach kill combos more than the 3

>>168992706
>When the dank Polyphonics hit T6
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>>168992706

SahaRamp is getting out of hand.
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>>168992793
Just run chemo decks
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>>168992114
Craft him. This had worked well for me so far in AA.
Just need to see what becomes popular after nerf so I can see if I need to include storm followers if dshift becomes more dominant.
Since my biggest weakness is pretty much dshift but for now Daria and roaches are more popular so I dont run storm.
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>>168992878

You mean Nep?
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>>168992923
Any deck that kills the cancer shitting up the meta is a chemo deck.
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>>168992965

But Nep is the counter to Saharamp, right?
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>>168987314
>dfw you have 7 goblin mage cards lying around waiting for dusting
today was a good day!
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>>168992917
What are your thoughts on fist, noxious, cavalier, dragonclaw pendant?

>>168993045
Yeah.
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>>168993050
>today was a good day!

Did you even have to use your AK?
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>>168992917
Only 1 salamander?
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>>168993120
no 3.
1 is animooted and 2 is normal.
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>>168993120
oh, i only looked at the animated one, fuck i'm retarded
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>lmao 75% winrate
>took two months for cygames to realize this shit needs nerfing

l o l
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>>168993072
Works if you run much discard.
But Im trying to limit discarding and drawing a little so I run less risk of getting multiple dragoons in same hand.
And dream start is pretty much T2 oracle T3 Rites T4 poryxene dragon.
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>>168993050
>have exactly 3
>dusting them wouldn't do anything since I still need them for my dirt deck
Jakarta gar nine.
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>>168993371
>tfw full set of animated, but I still need them for Dragonewt discard
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>>168993342
>>lmao 75% winrate
>>took two months for cygames to realize this shit needs nerfing
>l o l

>Wait months to do anything
>Decide best solution is to nerf neutral card that is just as important to other decks
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>>168993359
Have your urded your pyroxene after it survives knocking something off the board?
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>>168993072
Oh and I wouldnt recommend dragonclaw since you want uriels to pull rites since sometimes they can be assholes and all be stacked at end.
And with all the unga the game got you want to not have many turns of no counterplays.
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>>168993506
At least gobu nerf also kills OTK dragon as well.
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>>168993506
History repeats. It's the Harvest festival "ptp nerf" all over again
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>>168993506
>just as important to other decks

what alternate universe are you living in
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REMOVE FUCKING LUCIFER
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>>168993617
NO! EVEN MORE DO-EVERYTHING CARDS YOU HAVE TO WHALE FOR HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
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>>168993617
Tell me where Saha's butt touched you, anon.
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>>168993697
God forbid one expensive deck is good and the rest is 10-20k dust stuff you literally get by starting the game once.

I can't see anyone except retards who vial all of their starting to stuff to build something they end up not wanting to play complaining about this.
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>>168993697
>YOU HAVE TO WHALE FOR
if you're retarded, yeah
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>>168993589
>have to drop Ivory
>dead
????
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Now this is getting exciting.
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>>168993953
A meme to surpass Metal Gear.
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>>168993616

RIP Combo Vampy deck
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This alright for a first time Nep deck?
I don't have any more Foul Tempests and Breaths so I'm working with what I have.
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>>168994052
Whoops, forgot pic related.
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>>168993506
Gobu was never vital to any deck other than Roach. And she's still usable in Disco Dork and Unga blood.
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>>168993820
>>168993813
Decks are already 1/3-1/2 lego+ golds and it's gonna hit 2/3 next expansion
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>>168994130
you might want to add shield angel maybe for more survivability
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>>168994280
>Decks
Literally only Saha Ramp
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>tfw finally get a decent reroll
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>>168994294
Spartoi not enough?
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I'm on a huge loss streak with Daria Rune at the moment and I'm not sure why. First time playing the deck but I have no idea if I'm misplaying or just getting massively unlucky.

I'm mulliganing everything but Daria and vs aggro I'll keep Emmylou. I'm going full aggro against control aside from priority targets which I kinda need to kill and vs aggro I'm trading but still get run down very fast.
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>>168994370
>2 Daria
Sorry for your loss.
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>>168994191
Unfortunately, decks such as this are going to be a thing of the past now.
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So what will happen to the meta now?
Roach got fucked, that's for sure, but what will happen to Daria rune?
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>>168994387
you have a lot of single target removal which is not that good against board floods, so an additional ward might be able to save your face

I don't know, just try it out
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>>168994337
And every good sword deck
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>>168994441
Wow, a super niche deck that 2 guys play on the ladder is getting gutted, boo hoo.
No, srsly, meme decks will live on. You kill one and 2 other shall rise, don't worry.
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>>168994428
>I'm mulliganing everything but Daria
This is why you are losing. Keep stuff to play on curve, don't hard mull for Daria. Keep Levi when going second. Only keep Daria if you have at least something to spellboost her with as well.
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>>168994130
Take out conversion and put in Healing angels/Feathered patroller/shield angel.
Not sure if you want THAT much single low damage removal either. Maybe switch a couple of them for DoD.
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I wonder what the elfshitter was thinking.

>>168994127
Send them a sternly worded letter in the profile > more > contact page. They don't play anything but roach/daria so they don't get what they're doing

>>168994191
It was absolutely vital as a tech in aggro blood to help it agaisnt all the ward heals everyone was running
It was a strong tech in aggro shadow to get the double reaper nut
Cursed general storm royal absolutely needed it. If you can't reliably get an assassin by t6 you're too slow then dead because of the flood of removal everywhere.
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>>168994441
Thought you were talking about your own for a second.
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>>168994545
Turn 7, Feena into Gobu into Sector is almost like a Daria turn with only a card and evolve point.
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>>168994512
>3 Albert
>3 Aurelia
>1/3 of the deck is legendaries
???
Don't tell me you play 3x Bahamut and Olivia on CSword.
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>>168994428
>keep a 9drop for turn 1
>wtf why i lose
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>>168994441
Why? Are you talking about Gobu nerf? That deck doesn't run 1 drop.
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What's the difference between Levi and a lighter?
One burns things with little to no effort, the other is a lighter.
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>>168994545
It doesn't even deal with roach. It barely slows it down while they can still kill with a still broken card. Do you understand that they can do 14 face with a single roach? With an 80% chance to have gotten it by then without any tutor attempts at all?
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>>168994662
Dude, a Daria in hand on turn 1 is going to cost 4PP on turn 5.
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>>168994662
>daria
>9 drop
/svg/ everybody
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>>168994706
4pp young levi legendary card
3/4 - 5/6
evolve: put 2 crimson sorceries in your hand

hire me cygames
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>>168994785
>keep a 9drop for >>>>TURN 1<<<<
yes, she's a 9drop in turn 1 you fucking retard
/yurotrash/ reading comprehension everyone
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>>168994582
>Send them a sternly worded letter in the profile > more > contact page. They don't play anything but roach/daria so they don't get what they're doing

I already did.
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>>168994746
>while they can still kill with a still broken card
They can't, if they don't draw it. In case you haven't noticed, Forest has really dogshit card draw. The best they can do is 3x Glimmer Wings, but that's nowhere near enough to go through your deck to get your combo.
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>>168994769
Yeah, except when you also open with an Ogler and a Blade Mage because you were a retard and hard mulliganed for Daria instead of keeping that Insight, Craig, Emmy hand.
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>>168994832
You're supposed to keep Daria so you can boost her ass, fucking retard.
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>>168994662
Literally D rank.
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>>168994832
are you really this bad? do you know what daria does?
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>>168994937
t. someone who doesnt play daria deck
if you hard mulligan for daria you're retarded
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>>168994845
Try playing forest some time. You get the roach. Just because it's no longer an ezpz guaranteed 3 roach beatdown doesn't change that it only needs one to finish the job soccer mom, tia and the others setup.
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>>168994975
This is bait.
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>>168994746
there is a huge difference between 14 and 20
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>>168994280
Big whoop, I've played since like 2 weeks before steam and can build anything I want simply because I did my dailies every day.
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>>168994574
I'll try that for a few games and report back, usually if I don't get her in my starting hand I just don't get her the entire game though.
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>its the "runecraft needs daria to win" retardsquad again
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>>168995012
You are bait
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>tfw 26 dec can't come soon enough

I just want to play my main, Sword again
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>>168994130

-3 soul conversion -3 widow
+3 healing angel +3 feathered patroller

That should be just right.
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>>168995029
There's a big difference between fixing the fucking broken roach instead of barely doing shit to roach because it's still a 40% chance to have 2 in time without any tutor/draw and beating the shit out of 5 other decks in the process
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>>168995058
post your legos and vials and hours played
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>>168994898
Wow, I'd keep Insight and Craig turn 1 in a heartbeat. Emmy is really there as Oglers 4-6 after playing Daria. Whoever mulligans *that* hard for Daria deserves 3 in their opening hand.
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>>168995091
post rank.
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>>168995009
I do play the shit out of Roach, it's my favorite deck. One Roach is not enough most of the time. You need 1 Roach 2 bounce, or 2 Roach 1 bounce to have enough damage.

The nerf to Gobu means that Roach has to either forsake their 1-drop to get guaranteed tutor, OR change the structure of their deck to play a more tempo/control game to stall out until they draw combo. This means Roach can no longer consistently kill by turn 8 any more, games will have to go a bit longer than that to assemble the combo pieces.
The nerfs hit Roach very hard.
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>>168995123
>26 dec
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>>168994501
Daria is fucked. Control decks no longer have to cripple themselves with anti roach tech. It also now can actually lose the aggro match up, because no more double Rune+ Levi or Levi+Rune+Sorcery on 4. Meta is now pure control Decks spearheaded by ramp Dragon, D.Shift, and decks trying to counter both like Sword.
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>>168995408
>Daria is fucked.

Braindamage. Levi, Clarke and Daria still exist and it's not like Piercing Rune is totally unplayable.
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>>168995408
>Daria is fucked.
Levi and Clarke are still there.
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>>168995149
Sounds decent
Doesn't Feathered clash with setting up Breath?
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>>168995408
I think Daria will still be strong, but now it's just that the deck won't be completely retarded with burn damage
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I really wish they'd have done something about Clarke. You know. The only unique problem within the Daria deck.
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>>168995123
It's not T1 anymore but you'll still get the wins out
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>>168995163
Started saving up for next expac since I have everything I want except rune junk.
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>>168994898
Do you seriously have brain damage? You keep the cards that boost first and foremost, and keep Daria over other cards that can be boosted. Come on, it's not that hard.
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>>168995712
Sword was never Tier 1 in RoB.
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>>168995697
People are too stupid to bitch en masse about clarke and their design team would never stop rune from being the do-everything-better-than-everyone-else deck
>>
>triple checking 20 damage roach combo took so long that I had no time to finish the last attack
>he concedes anyway
Phew.
>>
>>168995627

Generally you don't want to keep her in your starting hand, and you only use her necromancy when it's really necessary or when you have enough for Death's Breath later on or after a Nep play. Keep in mind that a cleared Death's Breath also nets you enough Shadow to proc her Necromancy.
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>>168995830
CSword in DE
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>>168995697
>The only unique problem
Oh don't kid yourself
There are a lot of fucked up things about Daria
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>gobu nerf does nothing just drop 1pps
>Don't keep Daria
My new favorite /svg/ memes
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>>168995795
Do YOU have brain damage? When did I ever say the opposite? I am shitting on people who hard mull for Daria

>>168995920
>in RoB

Also, CSword was never a thing in DE. Midrange Sword was what was Tier 1.
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>>168995519
>>168995585
>>168995686
The deck is still strong you retards, we're debating whether it'll be the unstoppanle force it was at the start of the expansion. It already consistently lost to Dragon and control Havens for the last couple of weeks. Now I can see it dropping to tier 2. It'll be the best of tier 2 by far, and might even just remain 1, but be a generic 50 to 52% tier 1, rather than the bullshit 55%+ it was. You don't understand just how crucial slowing the deck by aturn against control is, and Piercing Rune to 2 accomplishes just that. Hell, aggro Blood might just come back thanks to the turn 4 Daria power play nerf, OTK roach being removed, and D.Shift coming in force to counter control, and aggro Blood will definitely be favored against the new slower Daria.
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>>168995861
Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>
Are you fucking kidding me? I vialed all my runes and gobus because I thought that they would definitely be nerfing Daria long before anything else.
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>>168995298
>pls don't nerf my roach guys he's fair and balanced i swear
kys treehugger
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>>168996019
Why would you vial usable Bronzes/SIlvers?
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>>168996019

>ever turning problematic cards into vials

You are a genius.
>>
>>168996130
his extras
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>>168996019
Why do people ever vial excess cards when they don't literally need the vials RIGHT NOW on the spot?
I'm sitting on like 10+ of some bronzes and silvers because I haven't crafted a deck in so long but keep opening packs for animated cards. There's 0 reason to vial anything until the very moment when I decide "hey, I want to craft deck X right now".
>>
170 victories away from never having to play Elf again.
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Which site? Is stratagem bad enough to ignore Aurelia? I should be able to flood the field pretty well though
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>>168996367
Would it be okay if you drew it lategame when everyone can't play out their pp?
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>>168996010
This. Piercing rune being 2pp is pretty big because It's not free spellboost anymore. It will slow down the deck heavily. I don't see daria beating control after nerf.
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>>168996367
stratagem is not that bad in arena since it's much needed card draw

with that said, while the choice depends on your draft, I would most likely go right
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>>168995954
Unique. As in, non-generic.

Most of the things people have bitched about, ie. Levi and Piercing Rune, are used in all Rune decks. Yet Daria is the only Rune deck that is tier 1, meaning that for all these cards contribute to Daria's game plan, they are not at the core of the issue. To say otherwise is ignoring statistics both new and old.

If we're to assume that touching the boss card and face of the deck is taboo, then you should go after key support cards that aren't used in any other Rune deck, ie. Clarke.

Cygames has made their choice, though. We'll see how much it bites them in the ass.
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>>168996010
I'm 1500 points away from master and I have ladder anxiety. I'll take advantage of this new meta to play aggro blood again and get my free master. I can't wait.
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I started spamming storm haven with decent result in AA recently anyways so i guess i can only rejoice from all those nerfs.
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>>168996421
>>168996520
Went with right in the end, let's see how it turns out.
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>nerfing innocent gobbie
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>>168996536
>Yet Daria is the only Rune deck that is tier 1,
?
dshift is tier 1
http://game-ai.jp/12306/?from=index_menu
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>>168996641
Got some good draw there and Floral + Jeno + Arts, so you should be okay.
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>>168996641
>conscription and avant blader
yeah you don't need stratagem at all, so right was the best choice
>>
>>168996130
>>168996140
>>168996304
I don't need vials for anything, but I liked seeing my vials go up because its the only progression I have left. I unfaved everything and vialed because I had Levi, AE, Awilda's, and Roach favorited for the longest time and they never nerfed them.
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>>168996706
>>168996754
I feel bad. Now I have so many cards in hand, that conscription wouldn't be worth
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>>168996313
>not climbing with your favorite class
Disgusting
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>>168996690
>cutest gobu will never stomp all over your dick
>>
>only run shitty budget decks
>wanted to build one of these tier 1 elf decks in the next few days
I don't know what to do now
>>
>nerfing goblin instead of roach
>nerfing piercing rune and not touching Levi
>spellboost system is still broken
>Daria is still flooding the board turn 4-5
>Forest is still killing with roaches anyway

nice nerf shadowbbs
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>>168997152
build tempo/wolfbolt instead
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>>168997152
At least you didn't already pull the trigger. Just save up for Nep or something
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>>168997152
Don't do this >>168997234
wolfbolt is still going to be tier 3 trash.
>>
So I'm looking at this Seraph deck on game AI that was last updated on the 8th of Feb by a master, and they don't run Prism Priestess at all. Wouldn't that make drawing Seraph really inconsistent? I don't see why you'd drop it.
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>>168995778
Sasuga Jewgames.
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>other decks who play gobu mage have to suffer because of Forest
>roach deck will still be busted because roach was the actual problem
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>no gobu no roach no feena in the first 19 cards
What are the chances?
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Need a Private Match Win
ID: 26289
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Can you anons tell me which is stronger, Midrange swordcraft or midrange shadowcraft?

I could do either one by getting a premade pack and dusting few golden erasmuses.
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>>168997537
Thanks Vamp-chan
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>>168996694
My favorite meme.

Dshift only has favorable win rates at the Master Rank. This has nothing to do with AA and below being especially bad at the game; it's an issue of the play environment. Masters is a perpetual Control circle jerk, because it's the only way to answer the titans of the format without playing those decks yourself. Add Daria bullying midrange out of existence, and Dshift gains a niche that does not otherwise exist on the ladder or in any tournament environment. It loses to aggro, it loses to midrange, it loses to faster combo decks... it's just awful on a general level, impossible to use as a climbing option. And it's only going to get worse in the coming weeks as we see a resurgence of aggro and midrange decks due to the actual top tier decks being curtailed.
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>tfw your dumpster barrel meme deck lives through 37 of daria's 40 cards and survives

>>168997531
It's literally the ptp forest, harvest festival nerf all over again.
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>Roach dead
>Daria got only very slightly nerfed
>even more Darias in ranked now

T-thanks I guess.
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>>168997682
>premade pack
Midrange Sword is better but don't buy the premade pack because Otohime is dead now.
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>>168997531
>>other decks who play gobu mage
name 5 relevant decks that extensively use gobu other than forest
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>gobu forest op
>stuck at 40000 for a month
>on the edge of losing every game because it has shit draw and lose tempo as soon as t4
>switches to tempo rune
>got out AA hell because of consistency of the deck thanks to great draws and removals

CYGAMES: lets remove gobu forest altogther but only minor nerf to tempo rune.

I know you like to nerf forest cygames but this is getting ridiculous. This deck has legit counters it is t1 only because the counters are not meta thanks to fucking Daria levi piercing rune.
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>>168997739
>Nobody understands the significance of a 1->2 mana nerf.

I agree it's not enough but it's far more than "slightly".
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>>168997682
Sword actually works

>>168997739
>Implying
Roach will still stomp all over your dick and daria will still kill your 3pp drop with piercing and kill your 2pp drop. a 1/1,1/2 surviving is nothing.
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>>168997797
I enjoyed getting a free wolf or Vania in blood.
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>>168997682
sword is stronger by far
the kids in this general who say midsword is bad are just shitters who complain every time they lose
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>>168997785
I suppose but wouldnt the golds and one regalia still give me hefty value compared to 12 packs?

Also is Otohime dead dead or just out of the meta for a while?
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>>168997797
Aggro Blood
Aggro Shadow
Aggro Sword
Sometimes Storm Haven
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>>168997870
>everyone cries for months about levi wiping their 3-follower board
>piercing rune gets nerfed so he can't do that anymore
>IT'S NOT ENOUGH
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>>168997982
>extensively
only aggro blood counts in that list
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I almost got memed on by a Daria that played Winter Caprice twice in unranked. Damn.
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>>168997906
>Roach will still stomp all over your dick and daria will still kill your 3pp drop with piercing and kill your 2pp drop. a 1/1,1/2 surviving is nothing.
We both know tierwhores WILL jump from roach to daria now because Daria got hit way less. Not being able to have 3 roaches, 3 goblin mages AND Feena to search goblin mage who searches roach really hit hard. Hard enough for people to drop the deck as soon as the patch comes out.
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>nerfing goblin mage instead of roach or some other cancershit like in their deck like Nature's guidance
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84822
Concede please.
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>>168997920
Just lion spirit, plea bro :^)

>>168997797
Aggro bats as a burn focused tech to bypass the wards/heals
Aggro shadow for double reaper
Cursed general storm needs assassin in hand by t6 with gobbo pulling assassin and maid leader gobu pulls pull general
Sword in general can use it as a consistency tech
Fetches dwarf alchemist/Levi in dirt rune
Fetches Wildfang dragonnewts in OTK disco
Storm haven pulling Reno's
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>>168997152
Build Tempo
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>play otk forest
>reach 100k master point

Daria is for babies

lol
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>>168998215
How do you nerf natures?
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>>168998256
>>168997234
But doesn't Tempo use Goblin Mage as well?
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>>168998137
Please fuck off the only decks people play in shadowverse now are either Aggro, Combo and Control so naming 5 "extensively" decks would be impossible in the first place.
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>>168998301
2PP.
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>>168997982
>Storm Haven
what 2drops does it need other than luxwing and mainyu?
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>>168998280
what's his deck?
did anyone record his games?
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>>168998350
So? Gobu is not a crucial card in Tempo Forest.
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>>168998301
By being a hearthstone dev and making a card unplayable, because that's what we all really want
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>>168998424
Just the regular OTK forest deck.

If you play it correctly you can get for about 75% winrate with this shit.

This shit is even more broken than Daria.
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Should have at least removed 1 defence of clarke, and maybe oglers to while we're at it.
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>>168998301
How about it not giving you a fucking card.

>>168998396
Beastcall Aria
>inb4 it's too slow
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>>168998004
>11dmg, 4 burn for 5pp incl killing whatever you evo trade going forward
>9dmg, 2 burn for 4pp
Gee, I wonder why runeshitter?

>>168998215
You can't really nerf guidance due to its place as a core forest bounce mechanic. You can kick roach's teeth in so it's just a 2pp "removal" by changing it to rush, adding an attack cap, making it 3pp. there's plenty of other shit to work with that isn't a degenerate literally worse than seraph tier ass reaming
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>>168997982
>Aggro Sword
>Storm Haven
You are a retard.
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>>168997398
>T3
It has a higher W/L than standard Roach. So does Tempo.
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>>168998523
it can't give you amulets
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>>168998510
What does a regular otk deck look like? Does it run pixie mischief, will, tia, fairy beast etc?
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>>168998523
>Beastcall Aria
>Searching amulets with Gobu
Anon...
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>>168998516
There's a lot of strong effect cards with 3/2, 2/3. What should be done about clarke is he can select 1 card to in hand to spellboost once, 3 times instead of this gay hurr 3pp for 6-12+ reduction bullshit.
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>>168997467
>3 Seraph
>0 Prism
>Sledge over Cudgel
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>>168998252
neither aggro sword nor aggro shadow need gobu, same for storm haven, "cursed general storm" and otk dragonewt aren't relevant decks while dirt rune barely sees play

>>168998381
I'm not the one overhyping the importance of gobu in decks other than roach without proof
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>>168998710
According to the page, Sledge is better vs Daria.
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WTF
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>>168997535
Happened to me yesterday. Had to hard evolve Eve twiceand just slug it out.
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>>168998523
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU VOMITING SHIT FROM YOUR FACE IF YOU CAN'T READ:

>FANFARE: PUT A RANDOM 2-PLAY POINT FOLLOWER FROM YOUR DECK INTO YOUR HAND

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU SUBHUMAN FILTH
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>>168998716
dirt gets a decent amount of play but it's literally, completely unaffected by the gobu change
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>+30 victories from the last time I saw my profile
>only advanced 1k points

I hate you all
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>>168998569
No win rate statistic other than tournament is going to be accurate for wolf bolt because prior to actually seeing a silver bolt you don't know what people meeting the deck is going to write it down as.
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>>168998815
At least I'm not alone in my misery. Makes me happier.
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>>168998809
>Dropping his swordmain for broken shit otk roach
No respect for these shitters.
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>>168997535
That had a 13.5% chance of happening. Congrats.
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>>168998252
>Sword in general can use it as a consistency tech
I've never seen a Sword deck playing Gobu. CSword is just better with Thief, and they don't even run it. Midrange and Aggro make use of Commander/Officer mechanics, they can't afford to fit Neutrals besides maybe Goblin in some aggro builds to combo with Princess Vanguard.
>Fetches dwarf alchemist/Levi in dirt rune
>Fetches Wildfang dragonnewts in OTK disco
Wow, such problematic decks.
>Storm haven pulling Reno's
Who even cares about Reno?
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>>168998004
It isn't. Piercing Rune was blatantly overpowered and was brought into line with the other cards like it. Daria still has like 3 other broken aspects that need to be brought in line.
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>>168998985
Punish the roach for being a piece of shit, don't hit the rest of us.
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>>168997467
I've played it, usually by the end game you have drawn at least 1 of your win conditions or have enough tools to stall until you do.
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>>168999056
???
None of the decks I mentioned are affected by the Gobu change.
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>>168998832
Telling me to kill myself over a little mistake is a bit much don't you think?. I don't even see people play storm haven I just assumed from the one time I say it got played a few days ago that people might have ran the card since I did see it get played, but then again it was unranked.
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>>168999056
no one but aggro blood got seriously punished
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>>168998252
There's no 1pp follower in dirtrune.
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Why can't every day be like this?
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>>168999171
Then maybe consider staying out of shit you aren't fucking informed on then huh? How about that?
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>>168999201
It hit AggroShadow too. Arguably worse than Blood because Blood might still use Gobu.
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>>168999252
>all of these games took ~5 minutes total
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>>168999152
Aggro blood and aggro shadow gets punished.
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>Oh Rune us too strong they say so let me just nerf the ONLY viable forest deck real quick

Fucking nips
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>>168999252
grats anon

I'm here bricking with 3 foul tempest and 3 death's breath in my starting turns against dragon
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>>168999171
PEOPLE PLAY ARIA IN STORM, BUT GOBU CAN'T PULL ARIA

GOB PULLS FOLLOWERS AND ARIA IS AN AMULET
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>>168999414
>ONLY
wolfbolt says hi
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>5 dshift in last 10 matches

Fuck that deck so much. I will take Daria/Roach/Seraph over Dshift. Fucking remove that deck from the game already. If you play that deck, I hope you all fucking die in the most horrible way.
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>>168999414
>Elf players crying
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>>168999431
>>168999362
I should have known better than to post about it.
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>>168999360
>>168999369
>aggro shadow
there are more aggro shadow variants that don't use gobu than ones that use
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>>168999414
The worst part is that Roach was one of the few viable counters to the Rune cancer which will now become even worse again.
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>>168999352
No
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>>168999414
>Roach also wasn't a problem
Dumb knife ear poster
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>>168999537
Ice golem is such heinous bullshit with the ability to make a whole board of 0 cost followers. Nobody can ambush/storm even close to that well close to that point in the game
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It has been a problem for forest since the beginning because the small pool of usable cards forest has. 80%of Forest decks are products of incest with each other forest decks.
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>>168999568
I would be quite funny if the percentage of rune players actually went up after the patch.
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>>168999564
>there are more aggro shadow variants that don't use gobu than ones that use
How is that remotly relevant? Some variant used it, and good ones at that, now the can't anymore. So AggroShadow overall lost out.
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>>168999414
>my 74% winrate going first and second, 31 win streak deck is fine guys honest

>>168999709
use Tia, titania's, Cynthia, Elder treant, simalacrum, and Reina
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>>168999472
Meme deck

At thos point Cygames bias against Forest is clear. They nerfed a forest core card in every single expansion
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>goblin mage gets hit

Eh, then I will just use best chef.

>guaranteed 2PP 2/2 that won't die easily.
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>>168999794
>titania's

Are you serious?
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>>168998510
>75% winrate

Maybe in A0.
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>>168999768
it is because aggro shadow doesn't rely on gobu as much as blood did

the nerf is irrelevant
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>>168999564
And that makes it okay when roach is the problem in the equation?

>>168999860
Deadly
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/svg/ is so clueless about forest, it's adorable. Keep 'em coming.
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>>168999740
It will, the Rune nerf was irrelevant except for that one scenario of 4PP Levi+CS+PR. Which was absurdly degenerate but didn't happen nearly as often as that CS going face. Now they just go Levi+PR and CS your face next turn.
Daria runs enough threats and removal that by that point you aren't likely to have 3 impactful minions on board no matter what.
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>>168999815
>At thos point Cygames bias against Forest is clear. They nerfed a forest core card in every single expansion
>bias against
They nerfed a core card in each expansion because it was fucking beyond broken. You honestly believe shit like Homecoming shouldn't have been nerfed?
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>>168999971
>They know nothing Ash!
>Nothing!
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>>168998280

Waiting to see all those forest and runeshitters getting wrecked after nerf. They are obnoxious right now with their combo.
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>tfw actually happy to get shitty win x1 match dailies so I don't have to spend a lot of time on the game each day
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>>169000040
it can't even hit amulets so there was no problem really
meanwhile themis still exists
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>>168999768

>but fetching reaper

That's the only problem. Goblin Mage is not a core like Rabbit Necromancer.
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>>169000040
Harvest Festival should be 3pp like the other draw amulets so it's actually playable

>>169000053
>Within hours roachshitters stop panicking and keep roaching people to death
>Daria still vastly overvalues and wins unless someone can AOE/trade spam until their hand bricks.
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>>169000040
What was the homecoming nerf?
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>>169000225

>roaching people to death

Do you suggest them keeping those roaches in starting hand then, dude?

>but daria

Will be a turn slower. Many can capitalize on that.
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>>169000328
raised from 5pp to 7pp as basically a themis that bounced shit back into your hand to replay
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>>169000380
wew
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>>169000134
I even change daily that takes alot of time nowadays unless it's a class i don't mind playing.
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>>168998510
Sub A0 stats don't count
>>169000040
Bias at its finest. Wheres the daria nerf or the themis nerf? Surely you arent implying that those are balanced
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I don't get how /svg/ is finding something to complain about with these nerfs.
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>>169000491
There will always be at least someone complaining. No matter what. This is the internet.
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>>169000368
They have a 60% to get just 1 which is all they need and that's before 2+ tutor rolls.

>>169000491
The nerfs hit the wrong thing/didn't go far enough respectively and shitters with no self-awareness or don't care about their cancer deck being cancer.
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>>169000491
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0073
I think most people haven't read this.
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>>169000328
Forest has a meme board clear that was legit
>turn 5: do nothing tier
but swordbbs where mad that their storm followers were getting bounced and they ended up nerfing it along with forests only decent card draw engine
funny thing was they did this ONLY because of ptp and they could have just nerfed that instead of gutting forest's core cards
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>>169000134
Same. I also enjoy "evolve 5 times" since I can do it against AI.
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>>169000584

>one roach is enough

Funny, because when I got OTK, it's from 2 and sometimes 3 roaches. You will need to try better.
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>>169000491
Gobu nerf hit other stuff and Daria nerf isn't enough.
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>>168997739
>Roach dead
You gotta love the new memes we're going to get soon.
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>>169000491
if /svg/ were in charge of this game, they're kneejerk-nerf so many cards everyone would be playing meme decks 1 week after each expansion
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>>169000707
So now the deck will have to stop being OTK and actually be fair and take 2 or 3 turns to kill their opponent just like any other deck in the game. Boo hoo.
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>>169000491
They wanted to see the dominating decks/cards die instead of making them fine.
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>>169000756
>Gobu nerf hit other stuff

Who cares? Aggro decks should never be good. Just look at HS.
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>>169000584
>"and shitters with no self-awareness or don't care about their cancer deck being cancer."
See >>169000707
God fucking forbid you can -only- do 15 face in a turn from fucking hand
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>>169000796

Exactly. They will need to work harder for that burst damage instead of getting a goblin to fetch it.

Now place them facing against a Daria.
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>>169000875
Newfag please leave, no one liked it when wallet warrior and freezemage ran rampant
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>>169000491
>certain deck is cancer
>nerf cards that weren't the problem im the first place
>how /svg/ is finding something to complain about with these nerfs
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does the shadowverse subreddit make anyone else really angry
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>>169001014
no because why the fuck would I go there in the first place
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>>168999414
t. buttmad elf cuck
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Why didnt they nerf Daria? I saw lots of people recommending to change her draw effect from 5 cards to just as many cards as you discarded. This way she could still replace a shit hand but would still be a viable, just not broken card anyway.
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>>169000993

>genuinely thinks that the 0PP goblin mage that fetches a roach is not a problem

What do you suggest, anon? Make it so the roach is 3PP? Good, that will kill those Forestfuckers for good.
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I don't know how i feel about this roach nerf.
I admit being salty that i was too lazy to climb the ladder more with it because i had a really good winrate with my roach deck.
i never felt that roach is OP, just that other decks didn't get good cards to perform well like forest or rune.
The biggest thing for me is that they killed a combo deck wich i really enjoyed playing. building control to see who ends up with more bahamut in the hand lategame, or rushing people down with face decks isn't fun.
Nerfing the one reliable combo deck makes me have alot less fun with the game.
I just hope the next exansion will bring something different, since combo decks are in my opinion the most fun thing to do in card games
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>>169001014
Here's that (you) yu wanted
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>>169001014
Never been there. Why?
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>>169000993
The thing is, Gobu WAS the problem. You're the fucking idiot, anon.

Forest was considered trash before OTK Roach was discovered at the beginning of RoB. If Forest was so good on its own, it'd have dominated the ladder day 1.
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>>169001014
I generally don't get angry at other people that don't inconvenience me in any way. It's a waste of my energy.
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>>169001115
This sounds fair.
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Reminder that Vampy canonically makes her brother crossdress
what a degenerate
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So is gobu still going to be decent as card draw or will only aggro use her now?
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>>169001142
just a lot of shitters with shitty opinions getting upvoted for no reason
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>>169000606
>Earth Rite Runecraft 3%
Ah, that special snowflake feeling. Look at my post. I am unique.
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>>169001280
I wish Vampy would make me crossdress.
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>>169001318
Other decks have actually no problem not playing any one-drops. It's just Forest that desperately needs them to fuel AE.
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>>169001115

But if you nerf the star of the expansion, then many cannot enjoy Shadowverse. :^)

Honestly speaking, we will need to see how much PR will affect Rune in general. 2PP will matter a lot, especially during early games.
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>>168997739
>Roach dead
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>>169001162
Roach is the real problem you knife ear shitter. Yes goblinmage makes the deck more consistent but nerfing gobu won't stop them from killing you at 20 hp on turn 8
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>>169001327
Dirt support next expack confirmed.
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>>168999815
>Bias against
You can't make this shit up. You're complaining about the only, O N L Y, class to have be tier 1 EVERY SINGLE FUCKING META SINCE RELEASE, and that's with the fucking nerfs.

Oh yeah, 5 mana clear EVERYTHING that plays around last words, denies shadows (back when PtP dominated and shadows were crucial) and allows you to reuse your broken bounce effects is totally balanced. That's back when the fucking scariest turn 5 board was probably an evolved Floral.
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>>169001280
Why is Veight "Vampire Noble" instead of Vanpire Prince?
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>>169001346
There aren't enough vampire girl doujins out there
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>>169001483
They did the right nerfs. Only early game nerfs matter. No more auto wins, because le May/Water Fairy/Goblin early game domination, on top of chip damage. Now they have to fucking concede the early game as a fucking combo deck should, instead of being a better aggro and better combo than every other dedicated aggro and combo deck out there.

The only meaningful nerfs to Rune without Hearhtstone style gutting would have been to Gut Levi into Dragon Warrior Jr. Nerfing Clarke and Daria does nothing, Levi and Rune are the fucking cards that are auto include in every single Rune deck. D.Shift is a problem too if you need to be reminded, and it uses that garbage.
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How many little elf girls did she spawn in her lifetime?
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>>169001327
But did you contribute 500+ games to the empirical data like me? :^)
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>>169001634
Meanwhile Themis is fine
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>>169001320
Sounds like Reddit as a whole.
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>even the elite forestcraft ai uses roach combo
What a meme deck.
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>>169001734
Because he's Vampy's slave forever and always.
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>>169001952

But I don't use PR in dirt. Daria and DShift use it because it's cheap face damage + spellboost. With it at 2PP now, DShift might stop running it.
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>>169002030
I hate themis as much as the next guy but if themis was 7pp haven would die to pretty much every deck with an early game.
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>ameritard about to lose in arena
>"waiting for response"

Sigh, sore loser
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>>169001115
That would make Daria garbage because you would never have a hand.
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>>169001973
It amazes me that Hearthstone shitters actually believe they got better art than Shadowverse.
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>>169002030
Themis:-
> isn't 5 PP
>doesn't play around last word
>doesn't deny shadows
>Kills your own board
>doesn't reuse your own fanfares and storms in a combo heavy class
>Isn't in a class that shits early game aggression and board domination
>Can't be reduced to 0 mana (Lionel if 5, Wolf if 7)
So, yeah, Themis is fine.
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>>169001115
But that would have killed the deck. As dahria, you literally have to reload your hand multiple times if you want to have at least a slight chance to win against Haven/Dragon/shadow control decks and their boardclears.
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>>169001973
>Implying elves can reproduce
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81391

Need a concede please
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>>169002153
Devs have statted Piercing Rune is played in literally every single Rune deck. I use Piercing in mine, and have seen plenty of lists both on sites and in game run it in dirt. It's auto include in every deck that runs Levi (ie literally every Rune deck ever), it's removal, burn, and mana cheat all in 1 package, it's way too fucking good.
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>>169002358
Shadoverse has anime styled art so it is inferior by pure principle.
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>>169002358
b-but anime is for nerds!
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just beat a forest faggot whos only cards he played was a demonic strike and 2 evolved elf trackers
what deck is this?
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>>169002538
Having shit taste is inferior by pure principle.
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As a new player; shadow, blood and haven seem to have the most interesting mechanics.
Which ones have more viable and different deck choices?
Also, are the prebuilt decks worth it? I have a few bucks to spare.
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>>169002551

He tried a new roach build

and failed.
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>>169002551
>Elf Tracker
He used the " I have no Forest cards and need to finish the missions" deck. Or the "I'm still in fucking beginner 3 and these are the best fucking Forest cards I have" deck.
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>>169002649
The Shadow prebuilt is probably the best value of those three.
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>>169001973
She canon breeds on a yearly basis with White Wolf. In goes the knot, out comes the pup.
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>>169002713
this was ranked A3
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>>169002476
Thanks Forte
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>>169002538
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>>169002742
>shadow prebuilt
>good value

>bought shadow prebuilt 2 days ago wanting to make shadow aggro deck
>enter a deck code for aggro deck
>21/40 cards found
oy vey
dont believe their lies
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>>169002649
Probably just a budget roach deck. If you're pre A rank it's not uncommon to find random decks in ladder.
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>>169002649
Blood is shit, Shadow is pretty good and only getting better, Haven is a great pubstomper.
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>>169002649
Blood is consistently the worst class in the game, and has one of the 3 most expensive decks in the game.

Shadow consistently has a top tier aggro deck, but it's for an aggro deck, and its other decks are fairly expensive and mediocre.

Haven is always mediocre, but shits on the fucking life of aggro and Shadow players.

Play Forest, Rune, and Sword if you want classes that will always be good.

Play Dragon if you want a class that's sometimes good (tier 1 storm Dragon, top tier right now), sometimes JUST, but, always top tier in memes.
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>>169002847
You need to buy 3, goyim.
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>>169002649
Blood and Shadow have the best prebuilts. Haven has the worst.
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>>169002649

Alright so here's the deal.

If you get the Haven package (not the premade deck, just crafting stuff), it isn't that much difficultly to get the core set and then be able to play several if not all of the relevant Haven decks. Problem is all Haven variants operate about the same so you can't mix it up.

Blood is trash

Shadow has two viable decks except the cheap one is still pretty pricey.

I would recommend learning about rerolling, and seeing whether you got a good roll or not before sinking money.
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Concede please

83252
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>>169002649
>picking literally the top 3 worst classes at the moment
>Which ones have more viable and different deck choices?
Meta is just about to drastically shift because of balance patch, so I can't tell you for sure about the viability of decks, but, the most relevant decks for those classes at the moment are:
Blood: Aggro, Control
Shadow: Aggro, Nephthys (Control)
Haven: Storm (Midrange/Aggro-ish), Seraph (Combo/Control), Sun Satan (Control)
>Also, are the prebuilt decks worth it? I have a few bucks to spare.
All pre-builts are worth it. The Haven one is significantly worse than all others, but it's not terrible if you want to build Storm Haven. Even then, I wouldn't recommend buying the Haven pre-built.
Also, only buy pre-builts if you have rerolled already.
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>>168987467
>Nep will now reign supreme in the end

Sasuga cygames
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>>169001127
Exactly my thoughts. But I'll try to make Roach work without 1pp folowers. I only have 6 of them in my current deck, so maybe there is a way to tech something in instead.
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>>169002963
>Blood is consistently the worst class in the game
>Haven is always mediocre
Beginner?
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>>169003013
>Blood
Both the legendaries are shit. Forest has 2 good and usable legendaries.
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>>169003034
Thank you sexy dragon lady.
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>>169003013
>Blood
>Best
Blood has shit cards,and not a single deck with a positive W/L ratio right now. Also, the Forest prebuilt is infinitely better (Roach and AE).

The Shadow prebuilt is honestly way too fucking good, they should have tried making the others at least close in quality.
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>>169002847
Aggro Shadow needs 3 Cerberus and 3 Phantom Howl. Of course you can't build Aggro with just one pre-built. That doesn't mean paying a fixed amount for guaranteed great Golds and their best Legendary isn't worth it.
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>>169002963
Dragon memes are so good that people even like losing to them.
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>>169003149

Blood IS one of the worst class consistently.

Aggro Blood bumrushing people after a major shakeup isn't being top-tier. It's preying on sub-par decks.
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>>169002806
I only had two decks at that point, myself. I needed to dust literally everything to have them.
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>shadow reaper in an aggro deck
bravo cygames thanks for making me pay for clearing the board woo hoo
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summon ice form is cheating
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>>169003065
>Meta is just about to drastically shift
Anon, please.
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roach and daria are being nerfed.
wonderful, can't wait to play only against d-shift, saha ramp and seraph. long games only to lose against some bullshit mechanics and OP cards.
ladder will be much more cancerous, hope that's waht you wanted you shitters
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>>169003352
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>>169003149
>I've joined late DE I really now what I'm talking about!
>I'm even a whooping A1 played, total pro!
Haven and Blood were OBJECTIVELY the worst classes in vanilla, literally 5% play rate each, and Blood had 30% winrate against the best 3 decks in the game at the time (PtP, D.Shift, aggro Shadow).

In DE, Haven was top tier for all 2 weeks, before Tempo Forest and Midrange Sword shat on everything else and dominated tier 1. Haven has been tier 2 ever since, ie, mediocre, and even right now it's at the bottom of tier 2. Blood is lucky to be fucking bottom tier 2 at all, but you B rank retards think it's good when you're still new to the game when an expansion comes out, and no one techs against aggro.
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who /sleeves/ here
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>>169001115
That doesn't function with their mechanic.They spend everything that isn't spellboost to stall/burn/spellboost what they do.
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>>169003457
>long games only to lose

>wow I actually have to PLAY the game instead of just bumrushing the enemy in 5 turns??
t. ungabunga
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>>169003456
>Roach OTK, the best deck in the game, is unplayable
>Meta not shifting
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>>169003542
>1.5k score to go
>don't feel like playing
I dunno how I'm gonna do it next month because there won't be a cute girl to motivate me all the way to 12k
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>>169003352
>waaah my actions have consequences
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>>169002002
Post screenshot of it. I wanna see your formating
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>>169003352
I'm so happy people don't run angelic barrage anymore.
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why is Clarke a fucking 2/3

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>169003456
>Meta is just about to drastically shift
>drastically shift
>d shift
YAMEROOOOO
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>>169003770
See ya control deck shitters
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Am i just stupid or are sword cards too excpansive compared to the other decks?
Shitting out 1/2 goons isn't that cool when other decks simply clear them away and summon just as much follower with better stats in one turn.
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>>169003456
A fucker just hit 100k master points on a 30 match winstreak with Roach and that deck was significantly nerfed. Do you seriously expect the meta to remain the same?
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>>169003640
>unplayable

Anon, please.
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>>169002179
>Just see their evil deeds bro
>Just ebin doggo spirit bro
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>>169003640
>Roach
>unplayable
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>>169003640
>less consistent == unplayable
Roachfags literally still this retarded.
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>>169003839
Of course something would change but I doubt it would be "drastically" as if a new fucking expansion came out like the drama queens want to believe.
The correct word would be "slightly".
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>>169003873
>>169003858
>>169003976
He didn't say that Forest was unplayable. He said Roach OTK. Of course people will still play Tempo and Wolfmemes.
I want to see you retards trying to play Roach OTK without Goblin Mage or without 1 drops.
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>>169003770
Roach would still eat D Shift alive, keeping it at bay. Shift doesn't have enough early game for Roach to really give a shit, even with its legs broken.
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>>169003679
Yeah let me just take 50 face damage from his full board instead of 49 damage from the shadow reaper. Great balance
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>>169004027
>He didn't say that Forest was unplayable.
And neither did I. I called him a Roachfag for a reason, you know. Not a Forestfag.
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>>169004062
What deck are you playing?
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>>169003837
If uh, you didn't know, you can make them stronger.

Like uh, amulets that make more followers
Cards that give them storm when played
Cards that add stats to an officer letting them trade for value
Cards that give stats to a guy letting them trade for value
Cards that give stats to all your guys lettign them trade for value
Cards that hard removal and make followers
Cards with rush that let you swing momentum and shit out followers
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>>169004198
>A bloo bloo I can't clear his board for free
Probably Daria.
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>>169003640
>Roach
>best deck
Sorry I can't hear you because of a mage who is as old as dirt
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>>169004062
>play ward
>shadowfag has to use his reaper to clear it
>no face damage
weeeeeee so hard

early game removal is also a good option
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>>169004027
>Turn 1 Fairy Circle
>Turn 2 double Fairy
>Turn 3 Ancient Elf

Woooow, i got hit so hard.

Alternatively

>Turn 1 Snipe for chip
>Turn 2 Justice opponents 1/2 drop
>Turn 3 Selwyn face
>Your opponent is now sub 18 and loses to turn 7 combo

Wooooow, much nerf, such gutted.
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>>169004198
d shift
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>>169004263
Ease of use =/= Power
Roach has always been stronger than Daria.
Daria is played more because majority of the players in this game are netdecking retards who can't do basic middle school level math.
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>>169003994
>strongest Tier 1 deck neutered
>meta not significantly changing

Daria was insanely dominant and Roach could feed off of all the decks that tried to counter it. Now that Roach isn't a thing anymore, expect all those anti-Daria decks to become even more relevant, significantly hurting Daria's winrate (alongside the PR nerfs) and allowing other decks to become viable.
Prepare yourself for the DShift meta
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>>169002963
>Play Forest, Rune, and Sword if you want classes that will always be good.

Sword is literally the worst class at the moment
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>>169004404
>that Roach isn't a thing anymore
Shit /svg/ says.
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>>169004062
>use angelic barrage
>ups no reaper.
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>>169004378
Good job creating specific situations where you come out on top that involve 2-3 card combos in a game where you starting hand is 4-5 cards and you can only mulligan 3.
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>>169004442
This

Sword has nothing going for it.
>Cuckcontrol
>Midrange in 2k17
>Aggro, worse than shadow or blood aggro

Sword is in the fucking gutter
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>>169004389
Get a taste of how it feels playing against your deck.
0 intractability.

tl;dr get rekt
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>>169004442
It's better than Blood, Shadow and Haven.
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>>169004528
I am talking about Roach OTK Forest, the deck, not the card.
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>>169004442
>>169004598
t. rank D

Blood is always the worst class after the first week of an expansion, ALWAYS.
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>>169004442
Every class other than forest and rune is worse than sword.
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>>169004621
B1?
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>>169004551
By your logic Roach already sucks dick because you need 1 drops to play aggressive but SIKE shit starting hand bad luck lel xD

Maybe if you didn't suck at mulliganing you wouldn't have such horrible opinions about how to play a card game.
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>>169004638
>It's better than Blood,
Maybe, it's on par

>Shadow and Haven.

Not even close, shadow has an aggro deck that can kill at turn 5, haven has seraph.
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>>169004535
>angelic barrage

Is this 3 months ago?
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>>169004598
>aggro worse than blood aggro
I dunno about that, I'm more afraid of aggro sword because they don't kill themselves in the process of ungaing my face.

With that said, Prism Illya collab when?
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>>169004263
t. D0
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>>169004750
D2?
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>>169004701
No. You?
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>>169004750
What are you basing these piping hot opinions on? Got stats to back up any of your bullshit? Or is your mouth trying to make your ass jealous again? According to all stats, Sword is smack dab in the middle of the pack, whereas Blood doesn't have a single deck with a positive winrate.
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>>169003604
are you saying that only in long games you need skill or have to PLAY the game?

stop thinking that you are a better player when you play control games
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>>169004713
Current Roach decks play 9 1 drops + 3 Fairy Circle. It's much more consistent than your made up ideal scenario, retard. Roach without 1 drops for chip damage or AE fodder is very vulnerable to aggro, much more inconsistent and much weaker in general.
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>according to /svg/, every craft is the most cancerous

>Rune most cancerous because d shift and daria
>Forset most cancerous because Roach
>Blood most cancerous because unga
>Sword most cancerous because mommas boy
>Shadow most cancerous because Nep
>Haven most cancerous because Seraph
>Dragon most cancerous because SahaLuci

And, also according to /svg/ all of the crafts are at the same time also the worst crafts in the game

>Shadow is the worst!
>Blood is the worst!
>Dragon is the worst!
>Haven is the worst!
>Sword is the worst!
>Forest is the worst (when the Roach nerf hits!)!

You people are fucking retarded.
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>>169004713
How often do you expect to have one of your 3 1-cost cards in your opening hand and also follow it up with a Slyvan Justice t2?
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>>168988976
Cunnycraft when?
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>>169005027
>says /svg/ is retarded
>he's posting on /svg/

Really spellboosts my ooglers
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>>169004967
I didn't mention skill in any way, shape or form. Don't project your insecurities.

You're trying to make it sound like long games are somehow bad or less fun, showing that you don't actually enjoy playing the game. There's nothing wrong with playing the game. You're literally trying to say "wahhhh I actually have to ~PLAY~ the game instead of having it end in turn 5 before anything interesting happens??".

t. aggro Blood player btw
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>>169005027
>100 different people have 100 different opinions
>you people are so dumb, how can you not all be a hivemind??????
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>>169004967
It's true though. Longer games mean more chances to make mistakes.
That said, bullshit like Seraph and Dshit doesn't really count as playing the game because you can't lose or fuck up.
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>>169003837
you're wrong. Sword followers are ridiculously overloaded with either stats or effects. F.Fencer, Aurelia, Otohime, Alwidas, Albert, the shit is insane. If there is anything class lacks, it's utility options, like good card draw or heal.
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>>169005098
I want to make babies with the bunny!
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>>169004917
>What are you basing these piping hot opinions on?

Personally experience, facing sword is always a free win for me because how shitty most of thier follower are. What's the point of cummoing so much fragile cards if they easily die by fowl tempest or any other AOE card? The class themselves also lacks draw power and heals
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>>169004062
You have early removal, you have wards, you have healing and once he's out he's a sitting duck
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>>169005241
>Otohime
>Good
:^)
>>
>Posts with stats are never addressed
>d rank shitposters keeps spouting his opinion about why sword/shadow/class he's playing is shit, when all stats prove otherwise. Blood is at the bottom, followed by Shadow and Haven. How is this even up for fucking debate? We have the stats every 2 fucking weeks. Provide stats of your own with an adequate sample size if you think these stats are bullshit.
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>>169005321
>anecdotal evidence
Numbers don't lie.
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>>169005098
It's already here. Drop em and if they survive, play a shrine knight maiden and start using stat boost cards.
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>>169005421
Otohime is my favourite pouty loli too :(
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>>169005449
So just ignore him. If someone says something stupid with nothing to back it up, just don't respond.
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>>169005321
>It's D-A Rank think they're playing at a level that matters post
Shut up
>>
BTW don't dust your Darias just yet. Piercing Rune change is good, but I'm not wholly convinced she won't still need to be knocked down another peg
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>>169005321
>Anecdotal evidence > Data

>fowl tempest
>He plays Shadow, probably Nep, the deck that does the best against CSword right now

Only slightly biased. :^)
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>>169005016
Put on a trip so when the nerf hits and Roach is still tier 1 I want you to suck my dick
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>>169005313
My wife Sarissa is already pregnant and spoken for. Try your luck with this cunny bunny instead.
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Anyone else excited for the story mode and elite AI 2 rewards?
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>>169005179
Except there's no "opinions" to have on game balance. Something is either good or it's not, everything else is wrong.

>my opinion is that my stock Toyota Corolla is faster than your Ferrari 812!!
That's not called an opinion. That's called being wrong.
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>>169005470
Wathever senpai, i still think that sword is literall crap and it's worse than blood. Not saying that blood is awesome but i have better chances to lose against it than with sword

>>169005604
no u
>>
Aohi senpai said Daria sucks now.
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>>169005690
do we know what the rewards for beating the AI are?
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>>169005670
Not an argument.
Also, you don't need to wait. Just try to make a Roach deck without 1 drops and use it on ladder right now, then come back and try to prove me wrong.
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>>169005682
Why does a bunny wear a booty shorts?

>>169005690
Yes, free gold is always good
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>>168999537
>aggro shitter

You are no better than the Dariafag.
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>>169005708
Yeah man, the meta is totally the same at all levels of the ladder, and is completely static.

Like, I'll grant that people who call Blood broken are demonstrably wrong, but game balance is not cut in stone. Metas may eventually settle, but tend to fluctuate as people build counter-decks, and the experience of the individual as they face the decks that beat their favorite class is always going to be different.
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>someone voices an opinion
>D2?
>C1?
>D0?
>Begginer 1?
I know there are some really dumb, uneducated opinions here but come on.
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>>169005027
>Shadow most cancerous because Nep
Nobody says that shit, I would say most Shadow complaining on /svg/ is split between Khawy and Reaper
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>>169005797
No, but it's got to be at least as good as 100 gold.
That is seven 100+ gold rewards and three T2 ticket+ rewards. It's gonna be great.
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>muh huh stats
You people know what there are shitters in this game too? Stats mean jack.

>but muh stats prove Darua didnt need a nerf, WR isnt THAT high compared to sword
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>>169005923
Fuck off faggot, aggroshitters are fine in comboverse. We need ungas around to keep degenerate combos in check.
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>>169005682
*ahem* Bayle's wife
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>>169005923
Its not like people have much of a choice seeing how only Aggro decks and Daria are affordable. Most other decks cost a million vials and still do worse.
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>>169005985
1k Masters score?
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>>169006013
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>>169006013
No one is defending Daria.
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>>169005985
D1?
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>>169005985
>Spout some dumbass shit that clearly contradicts the statistics
>Get called out for being an informed dumbass
>WAAAH BULLYING
>>
playing dirt seems difficult lately. i'm always on the back foot and once i regain control i get rek'd by satan or other game enders.
Is it the lack of early game? lack of wincon? is that why that one anon didn't run teachings and ran merlin, gobu and anne? basically for burst or something?

>>169005098
i want a luxhorn deck. that'd be cool.
>>
>Play against Aggro
>He has lethal but doesn't play it until the very last second

Why are aggro players so annoying?
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>>169006353
because im tabbed out shitposting on /svg/ instead of paying attention to your turn/paying attention to when my turn starts
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>>169005321
>Personally experience
Personal Experience Does not Matter
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>>169006257
>lack of wincon?
That has always been the problem with Dirt.

>is that why that one anon didn't run teachings and ran merlin, gobu and anne? basically for burst or something?
Not him, but Teachings has never been mandatory post Dwarf; Merlin is to get to your Fate's Hand for draw power; Gobu is amazing because it pulls your 2 drops that are some of the most important cards in your deck; Anne is for board clear and burst if Grea survives.
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>>169006123
What the hell are you talking about? Anyone who has played longer than a few weeks can afford other decks. Do your dailies.
>>
You don't need to be masters to see what the problems with Daria/Ramp is.
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Cancer bros. unite!
Roach was the biggest crutch this game had. What will you do now?

I'll be playing blood or rune just to piss off everyone still.
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>>169006130
>>169006170
That doesnt mean stats arent skewed, if we go by stats we can assume that Daria isnt really that strong after all and doesnt need to be toned down.

You dont balance your fucking game over statistics, hearthstone tried that and its a fucking failure. Ergo you dont discuss or argument by using class statistics as a basis, theyre not specific enough. They do not take skill level, matchups or anything else into consideration
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>>169006534
>Daria
>Ramp
Just Themis bro.
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>>169006554
Play Tempo. I actually like Forest.
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>>169006717
fuck this forced meme
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>>169006647
Still better than personal experience.
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>>169006524
It depends of what you want to play. A bunch of boosters wont net me enough vials to craft 3 bahamuts, 2-3 Odins and >3 class specific legendary core cards. Control decks are ridiculously overpriced.
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How does every d shift i face always get flame destroyer and d shift on turn 7 but i can never get those 2. Do they mull for both?????????
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>>169006129
Fuck off I'm 2k now
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>>169003542
They're honestly not that great. Feena is cute and all, but that artwork is kinda meh for a sleeve. Just did it for completion's sake.
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>roach dies
>daria goes rampant
>cblood is alive again
>free wins for the vampire

Removing forest really makes the game better for everyone but the autistic roach leechers.
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>>169006727
It gets beaten hard by aggro sword and Aggro shadow if they can deal with AE early enough.
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>>169006647
the statistics are a good starting point, you combine that with public opinion and your own testing and take your own conclusions

and class statistics alone are just the surface
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>>169006257
That anon here. Dirt is having a hard time because the Haven players finally realized they don't beat any of the top tier decks reliably, and with them gone, there's not much left for Dirt to farm besides the occasional Shadow.
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>>169006941
My favorite sleeves are Liza. The colors are just soothing.
I've missed Urd though ;_;
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>>169006647
>That doesnt mean stats arent skewed, if we go by stats we can assume that Daria isnt really that strong after all and doesnt need to be toned down.
If we go by statistics we can assume that Daria IS that strong and needs to be toned down, since the entirety of the meta has been revolving around the deck, but it still has way over 50% winrate.
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>>169005241
If you aren't lucky as fuck most of the time your commanders will simply die before you can get your first combo going.
Levi for example deals 7 damage when you evolve him and use his fire spell, that's enough to destroy almost everything sword can build up to t4.
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>run into somebody in Masters using Meme Dealer
>he concedes after I kill all 3
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>>169006941
Her evolved art is much nicer, wish it was that instead
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FINALLY! Nerfs are finally coming
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>>169006941
I don't like the character art sleeves at all to be honest
They're too busy
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>>169006953
>cblood is alive again
Nothing is going to make this shitty deck good outside of new cards.
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>>169006941
Sort of hoping that those who missed out on the older sleeves will be able to get them, somehow. Really wish I got Urd and Bellringer.
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>>169006862
You always hard mull for DShift.
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TSUKOME
S
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>1st 6 times in a row
Good thing I'm playing unranked.
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>>169006953
>free wins
???????????
cblood was being played to counter daria
with daria nerfed the reasons to run cblood have decreased
all the dariafags are gonna go play dshift now, which fucks clbood in the ass
if anything this is gonna fuck blood even more
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anyone else just want new cards? the meta is mostly fine for me, and the nerfs are welcome, but I just want new stuff to use

give me pico pico stuff cygames
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What?!
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>>169006862
http://usamin.love/card/clay_golem/j_summon.wav
http://usamin.love/card/flame_destroyer/j_summon.wav
http://usamin.love/card/flame_destroyer/j_summon.wav
http://usamin.love/card/dimension_shift/j_effect.wav
http://usamin.love/card/clay_golem/j_attack.wav
http://usamin.love/card/flame_destroyer/j_attack.wav
http://usamin.love/card/flame_destroyer/j_attack.wav
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>>169007561
>daria nerfed

Huh she wasn't? Just piercing rune with 1 more PP.

That doesn't stop her from flooding the board turn 4.
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>>169006862
yes??????
>do they mull for their wincon?????????????
?????????????????????????
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Win a private match.
31983.

Please help me, kind anons!
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I swear Imperial Dragoon is really good as 1-of.
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>>169007672
Just kill yourself you retarded shitposter.
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>>169007208
Those colors man. The one and only sleeve you should use if you play Forest.
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>tfw no snowman and ding dong sleeves
They are the only sleeves I want but I joined the game too late to get them.
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>>169007672
>Huh she wasn't?
daria as in daria deck, not daria card

>That doesn't stop her from flooding the board turn 4.
that doesnt matter when lots of people will stop playing it regardless
cbloods purpose was to fuck the abundance of darias in the ladder
if theres less now then their use deminishes
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>>169007413
突っ込め突っ込めー!
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>>169007710

Thank you kind anon, I hope many legendaries and 5-0s come to you!
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>>169007627
I'm in hoard mode right now, hoping I'll have like 7k~8k to use by the time the new set is out.
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>c blood players take out their only decent win condition
>act surprised they still lose most matches
can't make this shit up
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>>169007727
holy shit

also you forgot to adjust your record screen in obs
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is granblue tomorrow or the day after
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>>169008046
kill yourself
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>>169008046
That was yesterday.
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>>169008046
read the op moron
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>>169007880
is there a meaning behind this mouth expression?
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>>169008046
It ended yesterday.
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>>169008046
It already ended. You missed out.
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>>169007738
ok

>>169007815
The deck itself wasn't really nerfed though. It just became less cheated. Daria is still cheat and Levi is still going to rape people's anuses.

Playing cblood was just impossible against roaches and their RNG manipulation, now it's at least a fair game. Regardless cblood is at least playable now.
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>Daria stronk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh-1Kuh4qE8
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>>169008131
But yesterdays' gone.
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>>169008237
>The deck itself wasn't really nerfed though.
ok dude you do you just keep playing cblood i dont think i can get through to you
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>>169008237
>It just became less cheated
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>>169008160
op doesn't give a time zone
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>>169007727
I'm sorry but i really tried to like him
But in 99% of games he just sits in my hand and is useless
And the few times he gives me lethal I had lethal with another card or on board anyway
9 mana for on average 6 face is really not that good

Just running a genesis now and doing way better
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>>169008448
you really think jps give a shit about any timezone but their own?
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>>169007413
kys weebcuck
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>Turn 1 sacred plea
>Turn 2 beastcall
>Turn 3 temple defender
>Turn 4 2 black scriptures
>Turn 5 evolved lion
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is there any way reaper can deal with boardwipe or do i need to learn to like the dragon dick?
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>>169008194
Imitation of a cat "smile", it's cute
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>>169008873
if you're expecting salamander, just evolve your reaper

as for conflag, just take it like a champ
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>>169008785
>Turn 1 sacred plea
>Turn 2 snake priestess
>Turn 3 temple defender
>Turn 4 temple defender and another plea
>Turn 5 evolved lion
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>>169008785
>>169009034
>turn 1 pinion prayer
>turn 2 beastcall aria
>turn 3 hallowed dogma on beastcall + sacred plea
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>>169009187
Good old DE problems
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>>169007223
Dude, t4 Levi is only bullshit with 1pp piercing rune combo, without it he's basically a dragon warrior
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>>169009034
>>169009187
>>169008785

>turn 1 wraith
>turn 2 Yurias
>turn 3 Veight
>turn 4 double Yurias
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I really wonder if card games were better off without a million instant kill cards. It was annoying in Yugioh and its annoying in Shadowverse. Its always
>play out strong monster
>opponent immediately kills it, plays strong monster
>I kill it, I play strong monster
>repeat until one side is out of cards and evolves

I have no idea how to balance a game to not have it this way, but it always makes boss monsters far less impressive. Like, really strong shit like Bahamut is only good for his board wipe. I yet have to see a match outside of take two where he doesnt get killed right at the next turn. After mentioning take two I also realized that it would be a shit TCG where you dont have instant kill cards.
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Isnt Dshift and Daria the same? Dont both have Daria?
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What's a good sun satan deck?
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>>169009552
If you mean the card artwork, yes, both cards are Daria.
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>>169009442
>turn 1 skull beast
>turn 2 lyrial
>turn 3 rabbit necro
>turn 4 double reaper
>turn 5 cerb
>turn 6 phantom howl + mimi + coco
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>>169009552
>>
>main ramp dragon
>fucking around on my d shift deck in ladder
>decimate a fellow dragon bro bravely playing discard dragon
im so sorry man, iktfb
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>>169009506
Just play a deck that doesn't need board control to win. D-shift alone proves how stupid your argument is.
>>
>queue up against wolfbolt
>their damage is directly related to their hand size
>can't afford to play any cards or lose
>continues to die to the board
How is that deck t3
>>
can a cracka get a concede?
12495
>>
Has anyone noticed that every nerf patch in this game so far has had to slow roach down? When will Cygames acknowledge the true culprit harming the meta?
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>flood board
>flood board
fuck off 42k master, I'm only AA3
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>>169009887
When one of the other wincons they give Forest sticks. If Wolfbolt had been t1 they'd have killed roach
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>>169009887
Harvest Festival nerf was aimed at PtP, not Roach.
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>>169009887
Roach is balanced
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>>169009674
>turn 1 pass
>turn 2 ramp
>turn 3 double ramp
>turn 4 ramp + Unica
>turn 5 Saha/Luci
>turn 6 Satan
>>
why can't matchmaking in this game be RNG based?

I have this Haven daily I'm trying to do and I've faced like 12 D-shifts in an hour
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Is the score reward claim time listed in the missions menu showing japan time or local? I'm planning to wait on grinding score too heavily(and ranking up) until I can knock out some of the granblue event stuff for crafts I have nothing decent in.

Wondering if the deadline shown is accurate for me or I have half a day less than expected.
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>>169010168
>Set 5
>Pass
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>>169010273
That's how it is; fucking rigged. Switch off to Storm Haven and be done with it. However, you'll probably get matched with many roachs.
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post storm haven dick
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>>169010168
Destroy our foes sacred ones~
>>
18902

Concede please
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What the actual fuck is wrong with aggro niggers and the way they play holy fuck zero respect so much bm and time waste
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>>169009506
problem with this game is the lack of any means to respond to your opponent. mtg has counter spells and cards that temp remove a creature from the board on the other player's turn. the best we get here is a variation of hexproof.
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>>169010319
It's Japan time.
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>>169010480
>timewaste
>in games that end by turn 6
?
>>
Is this the new hot meme ramp dragon deck?
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>>169010480
Being able to turn off all opponent emotes is the greatest single difference between SV and HS, and has increased my game enjoyment exponentially
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>>169010615
>only 2 sahas
Heresy
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>>169010619
>Getting triggered by emotes
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>>169010480

Pretty sure aggro just kills your face in any normal situation. They might show that they had other means for lethal so you can break down the match and how to improve from it easier.

It's Dshift, that you're thinking about where they constantly act like faggots whenever they can get away with it.
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>>169010470
Thanks
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>>169010605
>they have lethal and intentionally wait out turns just to kill you
>spamming emotes the entire time because its so sick hitting face every turn
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>>169010480
When their only actual skill is luck for topdecking lethal of course they would think they've made a great play.
Vampy shitters todecking demonic storm/strike/claw and then bming are a prime example.
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>>169010685
>wanting emotes

They genuinely add nothing to the game
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>Roach
>Lethal
>Rope and BM with emotes
>80seconds.jpg
Goddamn Im having so much fun
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>>169010767
even with them waiting and emoting the game is still shorter than playing a control deck
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>>169010721
Except d shift actually requires a little bit of skill. You quite literally dont have to think while playing aggro
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>>169010836
They trigger Daria autists who brick so It's good enough for me
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>>169010685
>triggered
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>>169010515
Is hexproof also like cannot be targetted in that it's nigh-useless dogshit that almost everyone has a meta cards that still hit? I think Aurelia is the only spell immune that amounts to anything and she's a lego that just gets traded into.
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>>169010851
This.
>no "I fucked up" emote
>no "go fucking kill yourself you piece of shit" emote

Literally useless.
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>>1169010851
enjoy the waste of vials while you can sack of shit
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>daria and roach nerfed
>d-shift back in the meta

Finally i have an excuse to quit the game
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>>169010884
>Except d shift actually requires a little bit of skill
the same decision making that goes on dshift goes for aggro decks, one is reactive while the other is aggressive

don't delude yourself
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>>169010947
Not since I turned them off
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>>169010836
emotes have won me games before by bluffing when i didnt have shit on hand
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>>169010884

I didn't know that having to plan a little bit entitled them to act like cunts for every match they win.
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>>169010983
ironic and sarcastic emotes make people angrier.
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>>169010958
hey bro why you gotta be so toxic
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>>169010983
>>169010836
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>>169011020
I will
Enjoy getting rekt and roped faggotron
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>>169010884
>Except d shift actually requires a little bit of skill
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>>169010958
Not him but I'll hit you as hard as I can.
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>>169011117
you do once i restart the game shitter
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WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE PLAYING STORM HAVEN AGAIN
WHY
I DON'T WANT DE META AGAIN
PLEASE FUCK OFF
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>>169010884
>Except d shift actually requires a little bit of skill.
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>>169011057
>>169011065
>>169011131
D shift is unironically the most high iq deck in the game. Love emoting faggots who think they will win next turn then double d shifting to kill
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>>169005682
I want to impregnate this bunny!
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>>169011282
Because control swung hard which brought out the DShifts. and if there's anything people hate, it's DShift. So then that brought out the aggro.
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>2nd against aggro decks when i switch to my nep deck 5 games in a row
>1st against control decks when i switch to control blood
really fires the neurons
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>>169011659
>storm haven
>aggro
>>
>trade because you're scared of random daria burst
>end up needed that two damage to close out the game
>lose
man
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>>169011282
tempo forest shitters started it
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>>169011709


>>169011734
>No 3pp harvest festival to make tempo forest great again
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>>169011375
she is a bad bunny.
why would you stick your dick into something crazy?
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>>169000606
The breakdown is really good, exactly what the smarter players here we're trying to explain to the retards here. It's a good a read.
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>>169009739
It's not?
>>
>he had a tsubaki
AAAAAHHHHHHHH
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>>169010884
>Except d shift actually requires a little bit of skill.

kys.
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Evolved 9 times in the first game. Doesn't feel fair at all.
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>>169000606
>the game shifts towards matches being decided more by random chance than by player choice.
Is this supposed to be bad or something?
>>
stallverse
>>
>10 damage to face past wards
why is this allowed? Why does a deck that can flood the board nearly every turn with tanky followers have the ability to ignore wards and do massive face damage? Why?
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>>169012156
it's funny because I actually can't tell what you're talking about.
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>>169012156
By?
>>
i hope dshift comes back aggro sword will be insane if it does
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MY HAVEN DECK WILL BE ABLE TO DOMINATE THE LADDER ONCE AGAIN. WE BACK BOYS.
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Epic meta shadowtards
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>>169005241
They need a reliable aoe.
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>>169012707
Just Ironwrought bro :^)
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>>168987314
MUH DICK
BD LEADER WHEN?
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>>169012608
>mfw ramp with odin
ill enjoy the free wins anon
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I'm surprised that a "spirit cycle" deck is doing so well
>inb4 A3
>>
redpill me on shenlong
also post ramp lists
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>>169012707
Hamclone
>>
>The entire ladder is tier whoring before their golden gooses get nerfed
The 26th can't come fast enough.
>>
>>169000606
>We expect the usage and win rates of Runecraft decks to fall in line with other classes after these changes
>Their turn 4 went from "retardedly good" to "really good". This will surely cause half of them to drop the class and allow it to fall in line statistically.
>>
>>169012156
I assume you're talking about Daria burn?
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>>169013194

>someone else did a spirit cycle deck

IT'S NOT FAIR

I was going to be the one to make it work.
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>>169012608
Time to tech three Odins once again.
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>>169012608
kys stall decker
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>>169013194
Yeah, it's pretty good. You have strong value cards but the limiter was shadows and hand size. Just using cycle you can meme into the sunset by having answers to everything they drop.
>>
>>169013315
Don't kid yourself. This was going to happen anyway in the last minute frenzy to secure top 1000 slots.
>>
>slap a budget deck
>Winstreaking trough beginner

This is a damn stark contrast to heartstone, jesus christ.

Or are people just shit? Im only facing nips
>>
>>169013918
you will face literal subhumans, sandbaggers, and people without actual decks till A rank
>>
>>169013918
there aren't a lot of gaijins, most of the gaijins i've seen were in low ranks. AA and master is nip only.
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>>169013305
it's useless most of the time.
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Who /real american deck/ here
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>>169013475
Don't worry, it still doesn't work. You have hope.
>>
>>169013194
Dick pls.

Shadow is the only craft where I have scattered important cards. Need to check any dick to at least see if I have cards for it.
>>
how good is aggro shadow, especially compared to aggro blood? i was thinking of building it.
how important are cerbs? i have two.
>>
>>169013918
You're facing actual beginners. These are largely people who haven't played other card games, don't have proper decks, and don't know how the cards they do have work.

You can pretty much coast to high B just off of whatever garbage you unpack. You'll occasionally find someone who rerolled for a netdeck or bought the premades but it's a small number.
>>
>>169014084
were is your freedom man portrait ?
>>
>>169014198
Aggro Shadow is garbage
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>>169013481
Nice odin you have there sitting in your hand while birds shit on your face
>>
>>169013317
But its true, no one played midrange because they knew Daria turn 4 meant -3 on there board, now they can stick it to them with storm haven and Midsword, on top of roach just being good now it no longer kills midranged on 7. Midrange is coming back in full force, and maybe a bit more dshift aswell. Dont be a retard the daria winrate will drop by a bit, people will notice and switch to whats beating them MIDRANGE DECKS! FUCK, HOW RETARDED ARE YOU FUCKERS!?
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>>168987467
>dragon becomes tier 1
ohh yess nice time for all dragoncraft brothers
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>>169014084
>hag
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>>169014326
MIDSWORD IS BACK
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>>169013918
it'll gradually get harder.
actually i'm stuck in A0 since i entered it a few days ago..

i feel like they shouldn't have removed the streak bonus so suddenly, but more gradually. A0 feels like a bucket of crabs.
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how do you guys feel about this hand?
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>>169013317
They're not wrong. At least now T4 is "somewhat safe". Hell even actually T5. This was a good nerf.

I do think Levi should be nerfed to 2 cost 3/3 or 3 cost 4/4 though.

Like I said before, I'm pretty sure they are checking if this nerf is enough to put Daria Rune in line. If not, then the expansion will be the one to do it for sure.

At least it's not like HS where the cards suddenly are just, gone.
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>>169014515
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>>169014542
dead on the 26th
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>>169014542
a relic of a bygone age
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>>169013317
I don't think you understand how powerful 1 PP is in Rune. 1 PP in rune is basically 0 PP, as the cost of the card brings the cost of all cards down along with. With a 2 PP rune your opponent has to decide to Rune, or Daria, off 2 PP instead of both, like they used to be able to do.
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>>169014198
Aggro shadow is different than aggro blood, and having played both, I think shadow is better. Basically, shadow is less consistent than blood. When you get the god hand, it's the best aggro deck by far, Cerb into Howl is insane. When you get bad card draw RNG, it's worse than blood.

t. AA3
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>>169014084
need to buy freedom bird first anon, as much as you may love Eris
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>>169014616
>tfw outpaced the /svg/ homopster
A pleasant surprise desu. Both RoB and GBF versions of Lancelot have cards in RoB. Will both make it over eventually
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>>169014198
Forgot to answer about the cerbs. 3 Cerb is ideal, the deck is based around T5 Cerb into T6 Howl + coco + mimi. If you only run 2 Cerb, it's hurting the deck's consistency.

You can sub Cursed Soldier for the 3rd Cerb if you want to test the deck, he's """"almost"""" doing what Cerb does.
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>>169014084
>7/7 Mainyu
My brother!
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>>169014198
Aggro blood only needs 5 golds to function
Aggro shadow needs legos and golds out the ass
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>>169006647
>all decks tries to counter daria
>daria still has more than 50% win rate
yeah daria isn't strong
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>>169010836
>have 3 cards in my hand and I'm bascially dead next turn
>only need 2 direct damage to win
>draw shit
>emote spam Good Job
>Dariacuck concedes
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