/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>king's field
>bloodborne

Stop.

>>168918398
Sinh wasn't even any harder than Kalameet

I like Dark Souls

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Tips for a mage build in DS3? Pyro was fun but I've never dabbled in sorcery.

>>168918403
Going to include this in the next OP, so that people stop asking for screenshots to be posted in each thread:
http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ

I HAVE SINNED

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>>168918403
new leaked screenshot

Could someone help me trade item between two of my character? For your trouble I can give a +1 yorhm machete and a dragonslayer greatshield
The item are:
>Eastern set
>ring of favor , slumbering dragon ring,
>Washing pole
Put a red sign in Lothric high wall with the password dsg, on pc

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>>168918802
I can't tell if you're serious

>>168918802
SOURCE

>>168918802
>new

>>168918896
Scarlett.

>>168918665
Raw Astora. Use that when you have trouble with Magic Weapon. Spook and Hidden Body are fun as fuck. Go to Farron Keep first for spells. Late game, use all dragon rings, Crown of Dusk, and offhand Scholar's Candlestick. With 18/18 for St/Dex you can weild pretty much all magic oriented weapons.

>>168918802
How do I trigger this thing to appear in the dark shrine? Mind that I've done Yoel/Yuria's quest for the past 4 playthroughs. Probably that's the problem.

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>>168918403
Reposting for the new thread

>>168918971
You have to have Yuria not appear in your playthrough and have reached a point where Yoel is dead.

>>168918802
Isn't that just Yoel's shit?

>>168918597
He was, just thanks to the mechanics like poison and breaking your weapon, and ot being slow shit
And if got used to the Kalameet safe zones like trying to stay near his hind legs and running away when the dragon goes airborne, Sinh would fuck you over

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27 vig is not ok

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>>168918907
>he actually fell for it

>>168918971
Bring Yoel to the shrine, then let him die before getting all the sigils from him by going to the catacombs.

>>168918971
I got Yoel to come to Firelink but I never used his free lvl ups, and I got the ashes

>>168918950
Thanks for the help

>>168918971
Recruit him and ignore his "Draw out strengh" shit. He'll die on his own after Abyss Watchers, I think, and when you reach dark shrine those ashes will apear in the spot where he normally sits in the regular shrine.

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>>168918665
No, don't do it.
If you want to mage play DS2 and enjoy hexing or blue flame, along with a lot of sets that boost things like stats, cast speed, etc.

DS3 sorcery is a mind numbing abomination.
You can try to binocular everything, or just accept that lock on range is aggro range so you quickly end up as a shit straight sword build. Your spells consume stamina and FP so you have less estus while being pretty weak. All the items and shit you need are cookie cutter as fucking and spaced out to the very end of the game.
Also spell veriety is tits, I hope you like great soul arrow.
Most of the bosses are designed to rape you, hilariously enough Cursed Greatwood doesn't let you lock on so hey you're back to straight swords just to be able to soul transpose.

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>>168918732
It is only human, my child
KEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH

>>168918730
Might as well add this, as well.

https://my.mixtape.moe/skopje.mp4

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>>168919162
>unironically dying to a cosplay
>people try to justify this

>>168919162
Why the fuck would someone with a rapier try to lead with an R1 versus a fucking UGS.

Also good cosplay.

>>168919162
I really have no idea how to fight ultra greatswords. It's easy enough to never ever get hit by them but that always means I can't actually land a hit on them either without trading and taking so much damage that it wasn't worth it at all.

>>168919347
>cosplay
it's not like he needs to kick himself in the balls to cosplay a lothric knigga

>>168919383
You bait out an attack, roll through it, hit them, and roll away. That's pretty much it.

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Trading Bone Wheel Shield for Princes' Soul (or a TPGS if you've got it)

PC

>>168919383
I just passively fish for backstabs (you can always get one if they r1r1) then burn them with exploding bolts slowly.
Latency makes trying to hit them between attacks a bitch

>>168919383
Roll on him without locking, lock and spam r1

>>168919162
Post stats, please, I want to make a build around that sword.

As a Sorceror, should I go Raw if I want to buff weapons or uninfused? Looking at the numbers, refined does more damage than Raw at +9 (18/18). Does a buff scale differently based on infusion?

Does anyone know which weapons proc poison the fastest and/or most reliably? I dont think much testing has been done in this area because of poison being nearly useless in Ds3.

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>>168919467
it's not much of a challenge if people are retards.
still haven't had a proper win with painting guardian or Yuria

>>168919696
go quality, pick the priestess ring and I think that's 30end+fap.

>>168919737
Buffs are static and scale only with the stats needed to cast them. Infusions will have no effect. May as well go refined for the small AR increase.

>>168920291
niceu

>>168920291
>quality

Why would I be surprised?

>>168920291
Sweet, thanks. Class is knight, I suppose.

Why is Kalameet such a fucking nightmare to fight? I can't even touch him. No boss has ever given me this much difficulty. Not even Nameless King, Sulyvahn or Manus.

>>168920498
Because you are bad at the game
Hug his leg and run away when he's flying
I bet shitter like you complains about "gank squads" in the das3 too

>>168919290
someone is ass at free-aiming sorceries

don't listen to him, it's pretty fun if you get aiming down

>play game
>enemies follow me for-fucking-ever
>end up having to fight off every enemy ever in a tiny room when I get walled in

>invade a seeded world
>enemies follow me for 3 meters before they get tired and go back to their gawking perch

>>168920476
ay

>>168919501
That's a shit trade and you can't drop boss souls anyways Anon.

>>168921196
Enemy AIs become much less aggressive when there's co-op players present. It happens in co-op, too. Their behaviour just falls apart.

>>168919008
This.. is the power of the Pontiff Sulyvahn..

QUICK /dsg/
I need build ideas for a SL 65 pyromancer

>>168921547
"""Hexer"""

>>168919696
Are you really even making a build if you're just copying his?

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Post expectations/predictions/wishlist.
Hard mode: include reasonable precedent as to why this would happen, based on previous patches.

Add Blue Eye Orb for Dorkmoons to invade sinners (maybe even let them invade even in boss-defeated areas)
>Precedent: CoC was added late in DaS2's life cycle because people complained about de-spawning enemies

Blue Deacons and Blue Lothric Knight sets
>Precedent: Alonne Captain set existed in DaS2, Forlorn set was added in SotFS

Able to get Proper Bow and Silvercat Ring in the same playthrough
>Precedent: They patched Sirris before, same for other NPCs like Orbeck

Boss invasions are back
>Precedent: None really, but assuming that they listened to the community about it, there's a non-zero chance of it happening

>>168921594
>you can't make a salad if you're using a preexisting recipe

>>168921616
>CoC was added late in DaS2's life cycle because people complained about de-spawning enemies

You're half right, the CoC was always present but didn't always make enemies spawn infinitely.

Boss invasions are for shitters and only a vocal minority were in favor of them.

>>168921616
CoC was in the base game, the non-despawning thing was just tacked on to an existing covenant.

Forlorn set was added in sofs because the Forlorn were added in sofs. Captain set was in the base game

>>168921616
You're in for a crushing disappointment if you seriously think that version is anything but the base game bundled with the two DLC.

>>168921616
THEY DID IT AGAIN THE ABSOLUTE JEW CHINKS

What's most effective and preferably fun for PVE, in your opinion?

I want to make a new build and get to a comfy place to where I can co-op for Embers and souls whenever and also be able to fight people while Embered in my own world. I can't believe how many people in this game use so many summons. For me personally, it ruins the atmosphere and makes everything feel really pointless and easy, but I don't think I've invaded more than a couple people who were alone, out of the hundreds of invasions I've done. I love being a phantom, can't stand being a host for co-op.

>>168921714
That's just copying someone else's salad.

>>168921616
Instead of adding a blue orb, just make the red orb work as a blue one when the dorkmoon icon is equipped. Also make it prioritize people wearing the aldrich faithful icon.

Give Rosaria's Fingers some actual impact on gameplay or invasion mechanics. Right now their icon has literally 0 function beyond failing Sirris' quest if you equip it.

>>168921616
Prediction: It will the base game with both DLCs included on disc. That's it.

>>168921616
>>168921793
It's just a version of the game with the two DLCs. Nothing will be changed.

>>168921935
Dried finger is the only way for you to get invaded while on your own in a reliable fashion.

Of course in some areas this could put you in a reverse gank situation where there are two or three hostile phantoms there to fuck your mouth.

Anyone got a spare Soul of Champion Gundyr and/or Priestess Ring they'd be willing to gift to a struggling SL1 build on PS4? That would be MUCH appreciated.

I'm using the password "dsg" and hanging out at the High Wall of Lothric bonfire.

>>168922125
Boss souls won't appear for other players if you drop them. Same with all upgrade materials, or at least slabs and covenant reward items.

>>168921616
It isn't a remaster you dipshit, it's literally just a collector's edition. It has the DLCs. That's it. SotFS was sold and advertised as a remaster for next-gen consoles, that's why it was different.

Pls respond >>168921547
Is this good ? https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/147461

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>tfw no mummy set to wear

>>168922476
DS2 Grave Warden set is close enough

>>168922089
>Dried finger is the only way for you to get invaded while on your own in a reliable fashion.

That's BS, I play alone and get invaded all the time.

What y'all don't seem to get is that so many people are trying to invade that solo players get invaded despite the game prioritizing groups. Any given individual invader might encounter mostly groups at any given time but there are still enough invaders that individuals still get invaded frequently.

>spawn as Aldrich
>2 reds fighting the host
>I come in to help
>1 of them spends the rest of the fight trying to attack me and spamming caestus parries

I don't understand, a 2v1 is fine but 3 went against his sense of honorabu?

>>168921616
>Game of the Year Edition
This means it's the game with all DLCs and already patched to the lastest version, just like Bloodborne GOTY Edition.

>>168922301
I wasn't aware of that.. Well if anyone has an extra Prisoner's Chain and/or a Priestess Ring, I'd be very happy to have them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diHQ0qPIYuA

>>168922375
Consider: 27vig, 18 att
Darkmoon ring, Saint-tree Bellvine
lose sage+2

>>168921616
Why is this coming out a month after TRC, again ? BB GOTY Edition came out just a day after the Old Hunters DLC.

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>>168922727
Took me a second to realize what it was.

>>168922747
>lose sage ring +2
>waste a hand slot on a shitty catalyst you'll never use
>unironically recommending 18att and DM ring for a fucking offensive caster

You are bad at advice.

>>168922643
Reds are just retarded most of the time. I have to kill them all the time when I'm graping even though the death of the host would benefit us both.

>>168922727
>boss SFX

Why?

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>>168920821
Where'd that anger come from, friend?

>>168923070
>I bet shitter like you complains about "gank squads" in the das3 too
He's just the giant seed shitposter, ignore him.

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Wolnir build?

He was pretty faithless, so I guess just enough to wield his sword, but he was also a pyromancer.

>>168922687
i gotchu senpai
I put a white sign down

>>168923070
Not him, but:

He isn't wrong, if you can't handle Kalameet you're probably just bad. He's the poster boy for enemies who can't deal with lateral movement.

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>>168919347
I've managed to kill a few with my stereotypes, but with character cosplays only with the black knight.

>>168923038
>>boss SFX
>
>Why?
you don't even know, dude

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>>168922727

>>168923009
>variety is bad
Free sage+2 and regen hp.
I didn't change his offensive stats

>>168923164
He was faithless right up until he fell into the Abyss, after which he became really, really faithful. That said, you only need 40fth for his sword anyways since that's where it softcaps. 20int for dark pyros, white hair talisman for both miracles and pyros if you value fashion over efficiency. 27str to two-hand his sword.

White skin, thinnest build, and hollow for the face, dark armor for the skelly ribs, maybe iron bracelet to represent his banglies if you can't find golden ones. Loincloth for your legs so they look like bones.

>>168923178
Am I able to see it if I defeated Vordt but not Dancer?? If not, I'll just be at the Road of Sacrifices bonfire

>>168922643
>half of the watchdogs of farron that spawn try and attack me when I'm invading someone
I fucking hate when they do that, literal mouth breathing retards

>>168923590
I like the way this guy thinks

>>168922747
Why the Saint-tree Bellvine ?

>>168923558
>thinking direct downgrades are variety
Even the dark hand would be better, since he could reduce damage by blocking. Trading away a shield or weapon isn't worth half a sage ring and a tiny bit of regen.

>>168923708
I do it because I've maxed all the covenants so winning doesn't matter at all. Making a fellow invader mad or have a bad day seems far more interesting for me

>>168923318
post m'lady tipping his fedora pls

>>168923607
Yeah, vordt counts for high wall
I can't put a sign down next to RoS for some reason though
try either the first fire in the settlement or halfway fortress?

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>>168923607
>Am I able to see it if I defeated Vordt but not Dancer?

Depends on whether or not the dancer's active.

>I'll just be at the Road of Sacrifices bonfire

You can't summon people at the RoS bonfire, the first bonfire that you can summon at after the Settlement is Halfway Fortress.

>your best character turned out to be the one you just happened to make African-American
What did the gods mean by this?

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>>168921616
>April 21
>want to buy this shit and play when it's fresh
>can't because pc is shit and no credit card
>have to wait for a whole month for the GOTY while exiling myself from the internet completely
Fuck you From

>>168923708
Kek stay mad

Reactions like this is exactly why I do it

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>>168921769

>>168923879
Let's go to the Farron Keep bonfire, I'm a dumbass and forgot I beat the Crystal Sage.

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>>168923848

>>168922671
>tfw the Japanese version gets a new cover art
>western one continues to look like shit
I just dislike Soul of Cinder on the cover art. All the other covers are a generic dude in armor too and I like them so it's not that.

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>>168923848
I actually got a better version on a youtube video for a friend, also sorry for the delay, was farming souls

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JrpKy8k90C

why is prod so lewd?

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>>168922727

>>168923879
Thanks for taking the time for this and for gifting me the rings man, you saved me a lot of time trying to kill Dancer, Oceiros and Gundyr at SL1. Much appreciated!

>go dex/faith in das2
>finally get 22 faith for lightning spear
>only 3 uses
>did less damage than my +3 winged spear on lost sinner
What is the fucking point of faith even having offensive miracles?

>>168923590
also, get snap freeze or at least some mist. but i think snap freeze is better

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Where are all the ps4 bros? Is everyone really on PC

>>168924068
i never got why he doesn't offhand the fork and doesn't use catarina, smough or cleric armor.

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>>168921769

>>168924674
>>>/reddit/
>>>/bbg/
>>>/ps4g/

>>168924674
Playing BB or Nioh most likely.

>>168924246
I'm personally just not a fan of the yellow desu, ingame too. I remember seeing pics of the High Wall with a blue sky ages ago and it looked far nicer, I get that that's obviously the point but still.

>>168924770
>redditors
>not autistic le masturd rice fags

>>168921126
>completely ignore of my points
>le you must be bad at free aiming as if hitting opponents from afar is the problem
>as if free aiming is that different from 2 seconds in binoculars or you can't free aim in all the games
Just stop nigger sorcery is trash and you're trash for trying to trick someone into doing it.
Fire orb pyromancy is more fun for free aim anyway because you have to predict the arc and actually do damage.

>>168918950
Notice how I didn't even read this post before mine but called everything in it.

Step 1) Get the ASS, aka your fucking crutch straightsword because you're going to be using it a lot
Step 2) Avoid any actual PVE with sorcery like the fucking black plague by running through the game with spook and invis
Step 3) Enjoy your underleveled straightsword boss rush

That's it. That's your ""fun"" sorcery playthrough. Spare yourself that shit my man. It would be better to just Rosaria a regular playthrough and go meme around in the catacombs or whatever it is these gay ass, princess tiara wearing faggots do.

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Playing DaS2 feels weird. I enjoy it but at the same time there's this nagging thought how you're trying to bite the pillow until the good parts come but they never really do. At the same time you kinda think how DaS2 would be a GREAT game if it wasn't a Souls game.

Indeed, DS2 is a great game but it's biggest failure is to be bad at the things that make Souls 'souls'.

>>168923782
has the same speed boost as sage+2

>>168923807
>Trading away a shield or weapon isn't worth half a sage ring and a tiny bit of regen
he can still use a shield/weapon. it's not like he can't swap between weap. slots

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>>168924674
I play Bloodborne on the PS4 but if your pc can run ds3 on 60 fps then pc is the way to go. Plus paying for online sucks.

And yea like the other anon said, Nioh is the big thing now and will be for months since the dlc is expected to come soon as is pvp.

>>168924883
>that puny ass sword
>in heide's
I'm going to find whoever did this and HURT him. Also, I agree. What I imagine happened was that Shibuya was making a completely unrelated game, but bamco wanted a ds2 and they wanted it now, so they basically forced him to fit a square peg through a round hole, destroying both the peg and damaging the hole in the process

>>168924883
The thing with DaS2 that always made me never really have a strong opinion on it was a much lower degree of appreciation for DaS1 so going into it nothing really stood out as good or bad, just different.

But then again I started with DaS1, went back and played DeS which in turn made me think less of DaS1 when comparing bits of pieces of them before even touching DaS2.

I think I just enjoy the formula these games all seem to follow.

>>168923279
I roll at what seems to be the perfect times, but he always clips me with his body in a way that he'll still deal damage to me.

Like what the fuck? He clips me with his fucking hips and deals half my health even though I dodge his swiping head? Lmao

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>Kill the dancer early for blessed weapon
>Get to the CotD for the executioner's greatsword
>Get to Millwood tower for the EOS
>Get to Irithyll for the RotEE
>At SL22 I'm OP as fuck because I can stay buffed throughout an entire level and never have to drink estus unless I make a major fuckup
>If I put my sign down near Vordt people want to fight the dancer and die
>If I put my sign down near the crystal sage people want to fight the Abyss Watchers and die
>If I put my sign down near the rotted greatwood people want to do a bunch of dicking around and either die to the level or the boss for lack of estus
>I can't get sunlight medals because every host is a fucking moron
>I'll need concords next and not even my luck character has gotten enough of those

Covenants were a mistake.

>>168924881

I only suggested the ASS so that you can get to Farron Keep quicker. If you're sick of the sword, you can ditch it for Heysel's Pick in Crucifixion Woods. Spook and Hidden body are legitimately fun. You can do some neat shit with those things. By the time you get to Irithyll, you can start messing around with shit like Immolation Tinder. Magic Weapon allows you to use all other weapons while you go further using boss ouls for shit like MLGS and and GoJ. By that time, you have all the fun spells and shit with a ton of weapons to choose from.

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>>168925630
Please don't tell me there are people who summon help on THE CRYSTAL SAGE and try dragging it all the way to Farron Keep

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>>168924883
>MFW I remember the DeS community saying these things about DS1 when it came out

#Cycles

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>>168925241
I think that is the Syan Knight's Sword.

And yeah, I wish that after the series is over there'd be like documentaries about the games' development and I would absolutely love to know what the piss they wanted to do with DS2 initially.

I bet that it had less to do with Shibuya's ideas being 'shit' and more about them simply not fitting the traditional Souls game format.

>>168925664
you're responding to a shitposter and genuinely bad player I wouldn't recommend feeding them

>>168925879
Yup, and it's pretty damn common. What's worse is that I started putting my sign down right in front of the fog instead of at the crucifixion woods bonfire and people still do that shit.

>>168925913
IIRC ds2 was planned to be "open world". the vagueness that is part of the "souls formula" would be a bad mix for that.

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>>168921616
it should also say Nintendo Switch at the bottom

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>>168925902
I was here when DS1 was the newest Souls game so I understand what you mean. However we have 5 Soulsborne games and DS2 feels like the odd one out still.

The level design in my opinion was the biggest Soulsborne series' convention break that DS2 did, a lot of the levels in DS2 do not flow like Souls game levels do, they feel like traditionally checkpointed levels where they don't loop into themselves/have meaningful interconnections like the levels in other series do.

That said I still do enjoy DS2 as well.

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>>168926139
And here I thought people who activate a sign two inches from the Vordt door and do a complete 180 degree turn and march towards the Dancer was stupid enough.

>>168919501
I guess I have one to spare. I'll be home in 30 minutes.

>>168925913
The keyword is “time.”

>>168926370
what that

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>>168926528

DaS2 concept art. I could imagine an open world game in an environment like that.

>>168925190
Nioh will get a GOTY edition with all DLC included, later this year, right ?

>>168925630
You realize that you can invade as a sunbro for medals?
For Proofs you better rev up that Silver Knight Farm tho'.

>>168926528
a promo art image of Drangleic from one of the DaS2 artbooks

>>168919745
Rotten ghru dagger, quick r1's while buffed with poison resin. Rotten gru curved sword is a close second.

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Tell me about him.

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>>168926669
I remember when people thought that depths will be relevant again

>>168926704
>>168926669
Looks like DS3

>>168926209
>dark souls 1 was open world
>"nah open world doesnt work for souls games"
You're actually fucking retarded, dumb PCuck.

>>168926787
His cloaca is made of wood

>>168926787
He's my husbando.

>>168926787
He's a gigantic cunt whose only recognizable purpose is ruin everything for everyone as much as possible, therefore /ourboy/ apparently.

>>168926370
>>168926669
>>168926528

>that feel when you come out of the dull Aldia's Keep and see the Glorious forest / mountainous region open up
>the game is essentially over at that point
Shit piss fuck

DS3 for all it's criticisms actually felt like what DS2 was supposed to be imho.

>>168926840
are you brain damaged?

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>>168921769

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Now available: Dark Souls 3 for the visually impaired

>>168926840
DaS1 is a series of distinct interconnected levels you fucking mong.

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>A fat, grotesque creature was shown. Shibuya said this is the result of a fusion between monsters by a mad scientist-like character in the game. A Nazgul-like black rider was also shown. He serves as an the executioner of evildoers. Shibuya confirmed the game will include some sort of Morality system.
Reading das2 interviews now is pretty funny

>>168926401
>they feel like traditionally checkpointed levels where they don't loop into themselves/have meaningful interconnections

You could be describing Demon's Souls right now Anon.

>>168927013
Considering what was seen in DaS2 and what we now know in DaS3, I think you're onto something.

>>168925190
Feels bad to be a console pleb

>>168927092
yeah, but no soul count.

Allright you stupid fantards, hows the healpot roll roll attack sim going?

still roll roll attacking? Do you ever get tired of hitting the same 3 buttons over an over?

>>168926370
The only area in the game I can think of that has the same general atmosphere as this image is the short transition area between beating Skeleton Lords and reaching Harvest Valley [I believe].
Lords, Shaded Woods is such a garbage area.

>>168926840
>PKEK
Your insult is doubly dumb because DS1 was on the pc and none of the Soulsborne games are "open-world", they can be open-ended which means there's room for exploration,backtracking and so on, but the progression of the game is still kinda linear.

>>168927014
>get btfo
>w-w-w--w-w-wow u dum?
kill yourself
>>168927141
so open world, ok dipshit

>>168927254
>Coming to a general to complain about the focus of that general

Howdy /v/, here to shitpost about Nioh?

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>>168927141
>a series of distinct interconnected levels
>not open world

>>168927254
You nioh players better stop bullying us!

>>168926669
I remember that pendulum teaser website. Also, the pendulum is mentioned in some unsued JP dialogue found in the DaS2 Network Test. It seems to have been an item that allowed you to time travel.

Here's that dialogue I'm talking about:

http://pastebin.com/qUCvPjyc

>>168927505
>implying Ni-Oh isn't exactly the same

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>>168927248
I got too greedy, dreamed too big.

>>168926669
>>168927518
I remember how people speculated that the pendant is a glove and the the world was freezing over or something


kek

>>168927518
iirc you were supposed to go back in time, give the aged feather to loli herald, and near the end of the game she would give it back to you again as thanks or something.

I think the memory segments were also part of that mechanic originally.

>>168927753
*globe

>>168927767
kek, nobody will ever top that reddit shitpost

>>168927162
Ogres and Forlorn?

>>168927367
Is not the same as open world.
Open-world refers to a sandboxy, ACTUALLY open type of game where you actually have freedom. Soulsborne games are open-ended but not open world as the progression is gated and sometimes controlled pretty tightly.

>>168927162
>fat, grotesque creature was shown
Did JerpDoesGames from Soulbrandt get lost on his guided tour and end up in the interview room?

>>168926787
He's the son of a bitch behind everything going wrong at the moment in DS3.

He was born and raised in the Painted World of Ariandel, making him a unique entity in the Dark Souls universe. Whereas other, more abominable beings flock to painted worlds to seek asylum and peace from the outside world, Sulyvahn was either created or born there, which is highly unusual.

From there, he left the painted world and traveled to the real world, making his home in Irithyll, since it reminded him most of his home.

Beneath the frigid ice, he found something that would change him forever: the Profaned Flame. While we don't know much about the flame, it sparked a curiosity - nay, a desire - within Sulyvahn. He sought to control the flame and use it to his own ends. It's believed he found this flame AFTER Yhorm had attempted to extinguish it.

Whatever happened that day changed him forever. Sulyvahn returned to Irithyll with a newfound power and a stride in his step which permeated authority and purpose. From there, Sulyvahn climbed the ranks of clergymen and asserted himself as the dictator of Irithyll, and by extension, Anor Londo itself. This was a bloody coup that left Sulyvahn's enemies dead and left the knights of Irithyll at his mercy.

This is where shit really hit the fan. Sulyvahn learned of a creature named Aldrich, who had a habit of devouring men. He ate so much, that he turned into a sludge of despicable proportions. He learned of the Cathedral of the Deep, and its unique properties revolving around the Deep itself, another aspect of the world in which Sulyvahn crew curious of.

With the help of the Cathedral's inhabitants, he made Aldrich a Lord of Cinder in order to exact his new plan.. to overthrow Anor Londo itself.

By himself, Sulyvahn was nowhere near as powerful as the god that still inhabited Anor Londo, Gwyndolin of the Darkmoon. However, with the help of Aldrich, they worked together to overthrow it and allowed Aldrich to devour Gwyndolin. (1)

>>168927703
that's okay, you'll get it next time
*pat pat*

>>168926370
I like how it was inspired by Mordor

>>168927771
You are correct, time travel was the original point of the game, as was conquering the elements like we did in the DLC.

>>168926787
(2) Now, Sulyvahn had complete control over Irithyll, Anor Londo and its inhabitants. He used his newfound power to send his knights to scour the land in search of new powers and to eliminate key threats while guarding important strategical positions.

The Cathedral of the Deep now served to feed Aldrich even further with the corpses of Undead, promising 'salvation' to those who would allow themselves to succumb to Aldrich's insatiable hunger.

The end goal of Aldrich and Sulyvahn is still unclear, but whatever it was, we hopefully put a stop to it. Supposedly, Sulyvahn wanted to see what awaited in the supposed Deep, and the new world that would soon come after the flame had died. They may have even been working to halt and hinder the Unkindled to prevent them from beginning a new age of fire so that the age of the Deep would come.

>>168927306
Also when you come out of Aldia's Keep, kill the Guardian Dragon and see the massive forests open up in front of you.

>>168927771
Yeah, this is the dialogue:

http://illusorywall.tumblr.com/post/100174538929/dark-souls-2-unused-dialog-from-japanese-text

>>168928136
I feel like Aldrich was mostly just a mindless beast at that point and Sully was just fattening him up to sacrifice to the flame in hopes to control what happens in the aftermath.

>>168927978
No, you mean sandbox then, Dark Sous 1 and 2 are open world with a central hub. keep damage controlling you fucking genuine retard

>>168927984
>behind everything going wrong at the moment in DS3.
Yeah no, that's Kaathe

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>>168927026

While making this, I realized that the Grand Archives is when I have the most fun out of all the games.

>intricate level design with shortcuts
>varied enemies and NPCs
>three different levels
>all those invasions
>the scenery

>>168928395
What is there to damage control?
DS1 / 2 are not true open world games.

>>168928406
Kaathe is playing the long game. We'll feel his influence later in the DLC maybe, but in the here-and-now, Sulyvahn is the one acting as the primary antagonist. He's the one acting as our rival and the one that has hindered us at every turn.

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>>168928542
And DS3 is?

>>168927771
Would be cool if instead of time-limited segments the war against the giants would rage on in the past as a real level / set of levels that was set in the past kind of like Old Hunters has hunter NPCs slaying beasts in the streets.

Also would be cool to tie to loli herald up and tickle her feet with the feather.

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>>168927306
>Shaded Woods
I rememeber that early concept art batch that got me all hyped up, but the end product was such a disappointment.

>>168921616
Fix invasions so that they're even slightly less biased to the host.

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Hey /dsg/ I'm coming back to DaS3 for the first time in a long time to try something different. So three quick questions.

1. What's more fun for PVE - Pyro, Sorceries or Miracles?
2. Are bows/crossbows viable/fun as a primary weapon?
3. What's the best graphics mod to make the game look less grey and washed-out?

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Someone might want to consider cleaning this up.

>>168928542
>theyre not open world!!!
>o-o-o-ok theyre not TRUE open world according to my specific definition according to me
youre seriously fucking retarded, theyre open world with a central hub, you can freely go to any level in the world you want, you were wrong, end of story

>>168928774
>Also would be cool to tie to loli herald up and tickle her feet with the feather.
NO
DELET

>>168928708
None of the soulsborne games are truly open world the way Elder Scrolls / Fallout games are, DS3/Bloodborne least of all.

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>>168927767

>>168928826
pyro
greatbows are pretty fun
I dunno

How do I pyromancer twink properly

I'm SL15 right now with the dark hand, which is pretty memey but getting old fast

>>168928917
>Bethesdacuck
everyone please stop responding to this dumb as fuck PCuck

>>168928943
>being this buttblasted about the truth

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>>168928801
Wow that looks gorgeous, Shaded Woods was especially disappointing because of how much I loved Darkroot, although that was largely because of PvP shenanigans desu.

>>168928959
kill the big skelly man for black serpent

twink builds get old fast that's just how they are.

>>168928872
if you stutterpost, noone will ever take you seriously. i'm saying this once because you do it a lot, it's only junk

>>168928826
Pyro or miracles are fun, sorcerey is the least fun. (Cross)bows are good, but soley using them is not recommended.

>>168928872
>you can freely go
No.
Your progress in the game is physically prevented unless you follow along the pre-determined game progression.

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>>168929045
DaS2 artists did an amazing job with concept art

the rest of the team that sucked

>>168928959
Assuming that you're deprived, re-spec to 14 ATT and 20 INT and throw chaos basketballs around.

>>168928871
>this is fine

>>168928871
>firekeeper look at this pile of dust in despair

>>168929035
>pcuck
Okay, this pcuck is tired of this dogshit and goes to play bloodborne.

>>168924674
I'm on PS4.

Can you guys spoonfeed me a good MLGS/spellcasting (with a bit of pyro) build that is good for both PvP and PvE?
I haven't played since forever.

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>>168929258
Do you want to coop some time?

PSN?

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>>168929185
In concept art, constructions are always labirintic, very vertical and full of rooms you can enter and go out.
These maps are the best, I don't understand why they don't maps like this more, instead of horizontal shit.

There's a reason Mad monster mansion is such a good level

>>168929127
>miracles are fun

Well that's a first. What is there besides Lightning Spears and Gnaw?

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>yesterday the argument was about the definition of a basic enemy
>now it's about what qualifies as an open world

DLC2 please save us from this hell.

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>>168929538
It's alright Anon, I've come to help you.

This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito.

>>168929538
>tfw instead of going hollow you just become autistic

>>168929087
>strawmaning
way to completely abandon the actual discussion where your retarded arguement got shut down hard
>>168929134
oh i didnt know i physically cant walk into blighttown until after i beat undead parish

>>168929185
i recognise those buildings. this is actually a thing in game

>>168929443
Sure, although I'm not giving out my PSN willy-nilly. There's plenty of us on, we're just less vocal about our platform relative to PC fags. Every time I asked for help I get it.

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>>168929538
Yeah, lets just discuss /ourguy/ some more.

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>>168927771
she was even in the game for a while till they removed her

>>168924535
You mean a mist like pestilent mercury?

Reading up on the Pyromancies and it seems like they improved Rapport. That sounds fun.

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>>168929681
oh i didnt know blighttown and the undead parish were the only areas in ds1

>>168924883
I agree with this but DaS2 still manages to be my favorite Souls game outside of BB. It's definitely different and always seems like you're on rising action to a high note that never comes.

That said, that may be a good thing. If the levels on average, save for Iron Keep, keep building up, it means you haven't hit anything atrocious to kill the pacing like every other Souls.

>>168929918
You sound fun, cutie

Apparently parryspamming works super easy?

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>>168929918
Yeah, you just get it too fucking late in the game.

>>168929414
>with a bit of pyro

That's going to be an issue. The Pyromancies will do most likely do pitiful damage. Without the Pyro, its straightforward. 60 INT, basic reqs for MLGS, dump the rest into attunement and vigor. Some points into endurance.

>>168929796
completely forgot about that, yeah PM would work fine. thematically that is. it won't kill nearly as fast

>>168929537
I have quite a lot of fun with wrath of the gods, divine pillars of light and lightning storm. Kinda hard to get off, but are awesome when you hit a lot of enemies. The healing spells are also great and the regen you can achieve is insane.

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>she's just a texture mess in the game

>>168927771
That seems like it makes sense. What they did with FoFG and revisiting it back during the battle was really cool but beyond that the memories just seemed like a really lame beat to end your game with.

>>168929965
Oh i didn't know Sen's is literally the only place you can physically go to, not like you can go to Darkroot Garden/Basin or New Londo or Drake Valley or Great Hollow or Ash Lake or Catacombs or Lower Undead Burg
fucking retard

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/dsg/ give me my next build.

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>>168929537
Lightning Stake, my man.
Also throw alluring skulls around and play out your thunder god power fantasy.

>>168929414
http://mmdks.com/8jhc

>>168929743
A-alright, I'll keep an eye out

>>168929537
Miracles are fun but they do no damage.

>>168930213
W-would you?

>>168930213
who dat
>>168930258
Scythes

>>168930258
A frail looking grill with 99 STR

>>168930258
>that ghost doggo on the right

Spooky

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>>168929747
Post more Pontiff

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>>168929471
I think it's interesting that, it seems very likely that the Dragon Shrine was originally supposed to be Drangleic Castle.

the intro shows the area while talking about Drangleic, and for a kingdom that supposedly used Dragons/drakes a lot, it makes sense for the castle to be swarming with flying dragons and shit. but it's clear from the shrine's blatantly unfinished level design, that they scrapped that idea and made it what it is today.

all the concepts and early shit specifically showed Dragon Airie, and that fucking rope bridge.

along with time travel being an essential part of the intended plot of DaS2, the dragon shrine being Drangleic castle is another blatant one.

also before they turned the ancient dragon into a plot NPC that gives you this "literally what" "ashen mist heart", you woulve gotten that pendant in

>>168926669
which would have been the time travel mcguffin

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>>168928943

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>>168930251
>get BTFO
>get twisted
Keh heh heh

I put some booty ointment behind pic related, I'm sure you'll have no trouble getting straight to it.

>>168930407
>>168929537
The fun is pretending you're doing miracles but really it's a guy with blessed weapon or lightning blade dragonslayer axe that you pass off as a paladin

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>>168929538
DLC2 is going to be just as disappointing and meaningless as DLC1. Maybe even moreso, with the one boss fight (but that's a-okay, anon, because guess what, it has five phases).

>>168930407
For PvE, yes they do. The stronger variant of Gnawing is wonderful and you can drive Champion Gundyr into submission with Lightning Stake alone, and it isn't even particularly hard. I should know, since that's how I beat it earlier today.

>>168930580
>already confirmed to be longer and have more than 1 boss

Do you ever get tired of getting btfo?

>>168930572
>backpedaling
you can still physically go there retard, you just cant progress until you get the lordvessel, still open world. keep damage controlling kid, also read some fucking books and learn what words mean

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>>168930258
If you're on PC, you can join me in my Final Fantasy cosplays.

>>168930672
Whew, two bosses again. I can't wait!

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>>168930574
Whatever you say, boss

>>168930274
>Alluring skulls
That's a great idea, I should use that.
>>168930407
They hit for insane damage though. At 60 faith you'll be hitting for a thousand damage.

>>168930124
>>168930274
>>168930407

I was thinking about starting a FAI build but then realized most of the shit you want seems to be endgame. What do you do at the start?

>>168930056
I don't want to get assfucked by anything with a bit of magic resist.
>INT 60
Fucking hell, that's huge, I thought I only needed to get to 46 for the CSS.
I thought the scaling started to decay after 40 anyway?

>>168930324
I miss DaS 1 PvP.
>MoM
>Hollow solder waistcloth
No, thanks. I don't want to look like a faggot.

>>168930731
Not that im trying to get between you and the other anons autistic shit flinging fight but if anything the Souls games are a hybrid between traditional level based maps and open world maps.
They have lots of free roaming areas and the world is built up all around the stages, while also limiting where the players can venture via obstructions and barricades.

>>168930213
I want to fug her

>>168930731
By your logic DaS3 is an open world game, the only difference in structure between it and 1 is the sheer quantity of areas you can access at the beginning. Shut up.

>>168930749
I want to try out
Dark Knight Cecil
Black Mage (8bit-t)
Frimelda

>>168930731
No backpedaling here except for yours Anon.

Nobody's saying you can't get into Sen's, but you have to do story-related stuff first. Nobody's saying you can't get past gold fog walls, but you have to do story-related stuff first. There are physical barriers tied to the story, which is generally antithetical to open worlds.

>>168930672
>>168930880
No, it was confirmed to have more than two bosses. Which is the nice way of saying "demon boss, angel boss, and random NPC".

Still better than AoA, at least.

>>168930942
F-free heals?

>>168931030
I'll take a look at some fashion for those.

>>168930956
>I don't want to get assfucked by anything with a bit of magic resist

There's nothing that really gets ridiculous in this game when it comes to Magic Resist. I go 60 INT to do insane damage but anything around 40-50 is also fine.

Does anyone else really crave some domestic abuse after they play dark souls?

>>168930942
Get Med heal and a ton of ashtus and healslut for 30 sunlight medals as early as possible. Get Gnaw and kill Dancer early. Then go to Dragon Barracks and get Great Lightning Spear. Enjoy using Great Lightning Spear against Crystal Sage and AW.

>>168930880
Stop embarrassing yourself /v/

>>168930942
Healing, the occasional use of Force, and if you're deranged like me you grind 30 Sunlight Medals and a Dancer kill at level 20 to get Great Sunlight Spear off the Lothric Castle statue.
The latter of which is not at all worth it for all the effort I put into it

Smouldering Lake is not endgame though, and that's where you get Lightning Stake, which is ridiculously good when applied correctly.

>>168930942
Use your mace, the offensive casting starts at farron keep. Don't forget to help out siegward for the emit force miracle.

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>>168931404
hnnng

>>168931008
nope, you physically cant walk from firelink to undead settlement, wrong again
>>168931051
>Nobody's saying you can't get into Sen's,
you literally just did kid, keep backpedaling
>b-b-b-but that wasnt me!!

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>>168931404
And its counterpart, the shadow torch.

>>168931404
Ah, is that a Lost Izalith import?

>>168931578
You can't physically walk from Sen's to Anor Londo either m80.

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from the /v/ drawthreads

>>168931168
>>168931030
r8 my black mage

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/147477

>>168931578
>you literally just did

Literally I literally did literally not. Literally.

I pointed out that there are areas locked behind story events, that is not tantamount to saying that you cant ever go there.

Literally.

>>168931740
Fuckin' nice.

>>168931740
God damn.
That's amazing.

>>168931740
An anon drew that? Holy shit.

>>168931740
Those fucking guys with their fireballs are pin-point snipers

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Why does the gravetender have the shittiest fashion of all time?

>gold coin description says guy is an entitled smug idiot for assuming he'll get lucky
>farming for shit, especially covenant items, is often a mind numbing korean RNG grindfest

what did miyazaki mean by this

>>168931740
Is that a Drake Sword

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>>168931651
This is the Lost Izalith model. You can tell from its rich, eye gouging yellow-gold hues.

>>168931030
>>168931168
>>168931863

>Frimelda
Farron Armor / Clandestine Coat
Evangelist Gauntlets / Brass Gauntlets
Follower Boots / Old Sorcerer Boots
Irithyl Straightsword

>Black Mage
Sunset Helm
Corny's Garb / Leonard's Garb / Deserter Garb
Catarina Gauntlets / Smough's Gauntlets / Old Sorcerer Gloves
Faraam Boots

>Cecil
Morne's Helm (might want to set character's head really small since Morne's Helm is huge)
Thorne Armor
Dark Gauntlets / Wolf Knight Gauntlets / Gundyr Gauntlets
Drakeblood Leggings
Lothric Sword w/ Darkmoon Blade

>>168931172
What should I do then? Which spells should I get?
How much attunement do I need?
How are Profaned Flame and Chaos bed vestige?
Someone just help me.

>>168932054
He's a PCuck, that's why his AI is retarded as shit too.

>>168932054
It might have been what a lead dev thought looked cool or an homage to someone.

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>>168932138

>>168932054
Because he's a throwaway boss in FROM"s most halfassed DLC ever. At least his weapon's cool.

>>168932054
Because he's a meme reference. Goes to show how half-assed he is as a boss.

>invade in undead settlement
>spawn in
>host and phantom are fighting Hodrick right in front of me
>wade in
>get off a parry on the phantom, about to end his career
>fucking Hodrick kills me

YOU STUPID PURPLE PRICK, WE WOULD HAVE BOTH WON

I CAN'T WAIT TO SQUISH YOU WITH THE ASS OF A GIANT TREE YOU FUCKER

>>168931903
>>168931578

Girls, please. Open world, free roam, and sandbox are synonyms. Souls is none of these, because its area access is restricted by progression. It has side paths, detours, and short cuts, but at no point are you able to proceed without regard to the main story. You have to get the doll and kill the watchers before you can go to irithyll, you have to kill yhorm and aldrich before you can go to the crystal archives, and you have to kill lothric bros before you can go to the final boss. It's just one more linear game in a linear series.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_world

>>168932431
WILD CARD MOTHERFUCKER

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>suck at pvp forever
>suddenly winning like 8/10 matches
is it because Dancer's Swords are OP at low level PvP or are people in undead match just that shit?

>>168932431
Grandpa Hodrick is a based slayer of invaders. Nothing more satisfying than watching his NG+ monster version fucking destroy multiple watchdogs in a single blow.

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>>168932054
CHAINMOM

>>168932535
Can I get his armor?

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>>168932627
Yes, just follow Sirris's quest.

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>>168932431
I still wonder if this dude knew how close to being completely fucked he was.

>>168932535
>Hodrick pulls out his shield
>Everyone fucking starts backing away

What's the ideal level for getting the most multiplayer through the largest portion of the game? I wanna make a build to finish all the covenants

>>168920498

Last time I beat him, I just did the usual roll through attacks and smack with the Zwei, and heal when there's an opening; staying close

Wait, are katanas seriously quality or was someone pulling my leg?

>>168932872
All except the Chaos Blade, yes.

>>168932715
SL 50 post pontiff area for everything except for watchdogs and darkmoons. Watchdogs might work out for you if you try it somewhere before SL 30 and darkmoon is mostly busted and you will probably have to farm silver knights.

>>168924476
the last patch of sotfs bugged lightning miracle damage

it should be doing about 50% more than it currently does, then the damage gets tapered off the more faith you have

Don't worry, you will eventually end up with infinite spears, as they become purchaseable after clearing catacombs

>>168919008

Kek

>>168932162
You obviously know nothing of the characters and is just going by appearance

this is how bad cosplays with no thought are done
Frimelda wields two swords, for example, Save the Queen and Fallen Angel. Save the Queen is a holy sword, usually white with very adorned blade, Fallen Sword is Excalibur II, which is always depicted having a blue glasslike blade.

So for weapons, Frimelda would fit perfectly Lothric Holy Sword + Moonlight GS

>>168932196
Shit man just play the build and you'll figure it out. Want more spells? Attunement. Hate this spell? Try another. Profaned Flame works well with Sacred Flame. CBV is the main damage dealer for Pyro builds. You can always go to Rosaria anyways if you hate the build.

>>168932138
Make it even brighter

man, DaS1 pvp was absolute trash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PdTX2YtoA8

>>168932961
k

>>168932921
Thanks. I'm currently dicking around at SL15 in Settlement getting my shackles.

>>168932872
They're better at 40 dex than 25/25 str/dex, but if you have the points to go 40/40 str/dex then yeah, quality is better.