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irl siege weaponry edition

>FAQs and General Info
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>Warhammer introduction to MP Lords and Heroes
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To update: Never pick anything other than Morghur as Beastmen.
Necromancer heroes are top pick right now while raise dead is still broken as fuck.

>Empty Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>ACTUAL Total War News
If you've been living under a rock these past few months, Shortbrindal is free now.

We have battle map creating tools now. Only land battles and only for custom/custom mp games. Siege battles may be a possibility in the future but they're practically covering their ears and screeching at any mention of using modded maps to improve the campaign.
UPDATE: PEOPLE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT ANYWAY AND OUT OF DAMAGE CONTROL CA WILL BE ADDING OFFICIAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING CUSTOM MAPS TO THE CAMPAIGN ALONGSIDE THE BRETONNIA UPDATE

BRETONNIA IS 28TH OF FEBUARY.
Louen start in Couronne
Alberic start in Bordelaux
Fay Enchantress start in Carcassonne
Lots of new units such as grail reliquae, questing knights, squires and many more.

Looking good. Green Knight is a unique limited hero. Accumulate chivalry points to win the campaign. Decide between military and economic techs.

Warhammer is $12: https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly

Isabella von Carstein(Legendary Lord) has been announced as part of the War not Peace dealio. She and Vlad have their own faction, seperate from the Mannlet.

Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
>Recent
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>Recent
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Previous Thread: >>168855212
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First for Gelt, the weakest yet best looking lord.
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First for roads.
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What are the required mods for Better flags
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I was thinking about getting this dlc because I want to play a gobbo faction, anyone here played as them?

Are they shit, or are they worth a shot?
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>>168902373
Best
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>Heroes of Might and Magic had town screens from game 1 to the latests, excluding 6th, because fuck it
>Total War ain't got town screen in 2k17

what's their justification?
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>>168902373
GOBBOS are best, you dont need big gits to be good!
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Can someone give me a quick rundown on goblinz?
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>>168902613
>>168902651
really? am i being meme'd?
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>>168902373
It's a hard campaign, especially when Archaon shows up, but it's really fun. Haven't tried Angrund yet but people have told me it's hard as shit.
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>>168902704
Nah it's actually pretty great. It can be a little hard to get the ball rolling depending on difficulty but Its a nice change of pace from the vanilla greenskin campaign.
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>>168902373
>>168902702
>>168902704
Why do I love Skarsnik so much?
It's pretty simple when I iz finkin' 'bout it. Skarsnik izn't just da best character in da War'ammer world, 'ee might just be da greenest character of all time. Just imaging 'im riding fru da halls of Karak Eight-Peaks, da wind in 'is 'at, 'is mighty Gobbla below 'im. As 'ee rides fru da World's Edge Mountains, da Stunties soil demselves at 'is very scent. Dey knows 'ow 'ee smells, da essence of 'is smell iz in da Stunties Book of Grudges unda da name of "Skarsnik Fungusm" Da very nature of Skarsnik iz mystery. Could 'ee be playin' a deepa game den even Gork and Mork realizes? Da answer iz yes, 'ee 'as transcended such boundaries as da written world, and 'as free will to do woteva 'ee seez fit. 'owever, Skarsnik iz filled wiff such cunnin', such morky craft dat 'ee does not even use deese powers.
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>>168902704
nah lad, king and the warlord offers the best campaign gameplay
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I know it may sound silly, but are Total Warhammer and Warhammer Online models on about the same level of quality? is it possible to rip a model out of WHO and import it into TWWH?
Can one replace Archaon with Tchar'zanek?
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>>168902763
>>168902865
>>168902950
>>168902961
alright, cheers lads
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G O B L I N S
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Repostan my vampire state troops.

>>168902990
no
BOB doesn't allow you to recompile models into rigid_models_v2
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>>168902990
I'm pretty sure TW warhammer models are much better
Dunno if u can import it tho
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How the fuck can I get a stable over 60 FPS on Total Warhammer?

I am most certain my CPU is bottlenecking the FPS, how much difference would overclocking my CPU make realistically? Does anybody know?
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>>168903210
>That thin no armor variant on the right

Remove

Also add sylvanian coat of arms/sigils on the shields
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>>168903317
you got any links for said coat of arms?
My GIMP skills are lacking.

>remove no armor variant
I am keeping the codpiece.
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>>168903298
It's a CPU heavy game.
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>>168903404

What kind of difference would going from DX11 to DX12 make by itself, if any? I might bite the bullet for the performance.
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>>168903506
You better test it.

Try turning off shadows too
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Okay explain me this warhammerfags
If old world filled with monsters, chaos, disease and shit
How come Empire manage to build such great civilization, culture and technology?
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>>168903371
orcs get basilisks in AoS?
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>>168903298
Post specs
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>>168903563

I can't test it because I don't have windows 10. But I might get it if it makes my performance significantly better.
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>>168903598
Sigmar
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>>168903598
Dwarven and elven help.
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>>168903298

I overclocked my i5 6400 to 4.4 ghz and it's about doubled my fps from the stock clocks

I'm running an r9 390 with it and can't get over 45 fps at 1080p on atitta at the lowest settings apart from ultra unit size but warhams runs at 60+ pretty consistently on high

why is attita so badly optimized m8s, I can't really enjoy the game at potato tier graphics or at 20 fps
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>>168903598
Sigmar/Conan the Barbarian started it, and the dwarf alliance kept it going
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Who are you going to play first a week tomorrow?
>van carstein
>bretonnia

And specifically which lord?
>Louen
>Alberic
>Fay Enchantress
>Isabella
>Vlad (in his new start position)
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>>168902704
Actually no.
Its unfair and busts your balls but thats what makes it so fun.
You are actually forced to you know, use your cunning for a change.
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Xth for the waifus of Ulthuan
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>>168903878

The Gay Enchanfeet
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>>168903658

i5-4670k @3.40ghz
GTX 1070
16 gig RAM

Using windows 7 so no DX12.

I'm not a very technologically literate man but I feel my shitty ass old CPU is bottle-necking this game specifically because of how total war works. I'm considering buying a good cooler for my CPU to overclock it but I don't want to waste the money if it won't make much difference. I would probably upgrade to windows 10 if it made a good difference but I don't want to if it won't.

Benchmark gives me like 70fps on max settings with shadows on high and unlimited video memory on. Problem is the reality is it's more of a constant 50-60 dipping and when shit really hits the fan it can go as low as like 24-35 dipping.

If you think something else could be the problem please inform my retarded ass.
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>>168903878
I want to see what other changes they've made to magic beforehand (I notice flesh to stone was +60 armour in the steam build they had)
If it's not much I'll just go with Louen since I'm boring
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>>168903371
Is she going to get enriched?
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>>168904008
Depends entirely if Warhammer can use more than 4 CPU cores or not. It probably doesn't (unless they did something to the game recently) and so you likely wouldn't see a big increase from getting a newer processor, seeing as CPU performance hasn't really increased all that much since the 4670k came out.
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>>168904008

Overclock, my man. Your GPU is really way over what your CPU is able to deal with.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNsNq5QEVM

>what i'm going to do is try to offend every single identity on earth

reminder that legend is /ourguy/
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>>168904587

What's a good and reliable cooler I could buy for my CPU and what should I try to overclock it to?
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>tfw you blasting charge your own units
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>>168904796
they're only stunties so no big deal
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>>168903975
Isn't that some queer ESO shit?
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>>168904796
Are Blasting Charges good in GC? I've rarely used them because I hated Miners.
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>>168904981
Only really got the game but they seem fucking broken, but maybe they're not you don't get that many but it seems they can completely wipe out a unit or very close to doing so.
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>>168904981
They help make ironbreakers even more ridiculously tanky, as most stuff won't manage a clean charge against them with the blasting charges disrupting their formation.
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>>168904746

I know fuck all about coolers, I just bought an extra big noisy fan when I overclocked. I'd go to 3.8 or so. Be sure to vacuum inside the case every 3 months or so
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>>168904981
Ironbreakers have them too. I never saw any benefit in them, but I seemed to get rekt by them when fighting the AI dorfs
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He is going full Hitler mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNsNq5QEVM
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>Seven (7) days before Bretonnia and Isabella

https://s1.webmshare.com/eWDr8.webm
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>>168904981

Ironbreakers have good stats, it's the blasting charges that put them up there as some of the best in the game, they can absolutely shred a frontline of tightly packed troops, even heavily armored Chaos Warriors can have half their HP shaved off by just blasting charges.
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>>168904109
>jap artwork
>female captured in battle
guess
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>>168904698
>>168905375
Fuck off Legend.
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>>168905176

Thanks my man, thanks to everyone else who replied to me also.
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>>168904109
40k Orks have no dicks. When the Ork Commander in Dawn of war II: Retribution captures the inquisitor chick, all he does is steal her hat.
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>>168905458
Got a link?
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>GW won't let them release Slaanesh DLC
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Why are Hammerers so shit, lads?
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Is Age of Charlemagne worth it for $7.50?
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>>168905787
You dont say.
Good thing that japs can make porn out of doorknobs.
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>>168906158
Enough of this meme. GW has already included new artwork with boobs in AOS books.
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>tfw Warhammer gets me into real Chaos Magick
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>>168906207
That sounds too hilarious for you to not sauce.
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>>168906204
Absolutely.
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>>168906234
Hell, you just have to look at the new Aelf shit to see that boobs are not a problem.

And if you pay attention to AoS they're clearly building up to Slaanesh getting free.

AoS is shit enough without people inventing dumb as fuck and blatantly untrue memes to make it worse.
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>>168906308
>tfw my ladyfriend likes Nurgle but I'm a Tzeentchfag
>tfw we argue about best Chaos all the time
Suffering
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legend dropping the hard r n-word in his latest video
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>>168906647
Who?
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>>168906308
>"real" Chaos Magick
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@168906647
fuck off leg end
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>>168906647
holy shit i'm so scandalized i simply must watch his videos and contribute to his ad revenue right now!!
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>>168904698
>his priest starts with 8 piety
is this normal? i don't remember that in my apache game
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Added some bretonnian skirts for peasants to wear. The problem with zombie legs is that they are too skinny and stand out badly, codpieces notwithstanding.

What empire state troop units should I add for the vampire counts? So far I have spearmen (both varieties), swordsmen and xbowmen.
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>>168906365
[Kondom] Kagiana (Hontou wa Eroi Otogibanashi)

They also filmed a live action version.
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>>168907007
>They also filmed a live action version.

Oh japan.

Thanks man, anyhow.
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Who /Lowborn/ here?
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>>168904892

It's a Shadow Warrior you wazzock.
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>>168907554
I could be a Count if i schmoozed the right relatives.
But an Italian Count so I'm not sure it is worth the effort.
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> Still no SEGA mail with the blood DLC

>>168902084
> I am ready. Are you?
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>>168903878
Probably Von Carstein / Isabella since you can get Vlad turn 2
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>>168903878
I want to go for the main faction and play as Bretonnia proper under Louen, but at the same time, I hear the call of Alberich in his pimp armor.
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>>168903878

Alberic, most likely.
I'd like to try the ''new'' mechanic.
I want to create a solid knight ''crusader'' army and travel around the world, killing greenskins n'shit while also trying to take control over Bretonnia using just politics.
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>>168908058
I'm with you there. I remember CA saying in their advice for wood elf players that you don't have to go for territory next to athel loren, and it sounds like this'll be a really legitimate thing for brets to do as well. Diva Vult!
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>>168907805
If you are going to play as the von Carsteins, Isabella seems basically objectively better for the 2 starting Vampiresses and buffs to their stats. And obviously the fact that you can recruit Vlad turn 2.

Honestly, why would anyone ever play the standard VC's anymore? Literally the only reason to play them post Vlad is now gone with Vlad and Isabella being there own faction, and does anyone really like Mannfred enough to play as them?
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>>168907554
>fly planes with a wee USA laddie
>he asks grandma about his ancestors
>gets a ledger
Here, he took a pic for me
http://imgur.com/a/yIexF
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>>168908483
the starting varghulf maybe.
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>>168907554
That's a big horse
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>>168908483
Mannfred is overall a better hero stat wise but yeah,im waiting for Isabella too.
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>>168908345
Yeah, that's the part that interests me the most, you don't need to ''expand''.
We'll have to see how economy works, cause I'm sure those knights won't be cheap, and you can't have a peasant army cause it fucks up the economy too.
But overall, is a very interesting concept.
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>>168908743
Maybe the peasants are just manlets?
When will they learn? Never, because they're illiterate.
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>>168908743


...I've given you a small fortune. Lands, titles, fiefdoms and castles....
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>>168908345
>Brets do as well
>a faction to emulate the Welves

ALBERIC HITLER AND HIS GRAILMACHT

>Play Empire
>Go north to take Marienburg
>Louen is there with ten grail knights and nine mercenary treekin
>Bretonnia has declared war on you

>>168908483
I'd still play them in theory.
I like vlad the most but don't much care for Isabella's implementation. I don't want to leapfrog forced march stacks and overwhelm the opponent like that.

The lack of faction name change and capital change sours the Vlad start for me.
Honestly I'll get in a legendary game as Vlad now before anything changes.
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>all those people mocking bretonnia for having inferior cav
>mfw Hippogryph Knights, Royal Pegasus Knights, buffed Grail Knights and Grail Guardians.
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>>168908953
>bretonnians will still get shot and dier.
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>>168908953
>all those people mocking bretonnia for having inferior cav
these people don't exist

There is legitimate discussion about the triumvirate of heavy cavalry on the TT, but that is the extent of it.
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Is Crusader Kings any good?
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>>168907554
So who are the guys like the one in the pickture? I mean lower than knights but still kinda nobility class. Or smiths and other skilled laborers? I don't think nobility would trust peasants with jobs like this, but, on the other hand, every noble-born male is supposed to be a knight.
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I sexually identify as an Orc Warlord.

AMA.
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>>168909150
heralds and squires and shit.
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>>168909140
It's not too bad. You have to learn how to not get fucked by inheritance as well as learn more for specific starts. Then the gameplay is standard map painting.
You have to be able to roleplay your character or it's too boring.

There is a new DLC landing probably within a month from now.
The game has honestly been declining in quality.
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>>168909101
>muh triumvirate of heavy cavalry

Face it anon you got btfo.

Bretonnia always wins baby!
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>>168909150
Emerging middle class?
>>168909184
I identify as an attack gyrocopter and you triggered me you shitlord.
>>168909140
Good enough to pirate it. Paradox is so pricey on DLC they would give oven dodgers a run for their money.
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>>168909184

Why are you not on reddit where you belong?
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>not fighting brettonia with pike & shot to BTFO everything they have

apart from the royal brettonian airforce flanking your shit that is
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>>168909309
>>168909239
but where do they come from? How can you become "middle class" in Brettonia?
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>>168904109
Yes. She later accepts her place asa sow.
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>>168909140
It was but after all those dlc and patches they literally ruin game
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>>168909307
Need to brush up on that reading comprehension buddy.
You imply that I have a stake in the argument. I don't.

Demis with halberds will still come out on top because CA are incompetent retards.
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>>168909415
technically you are still a peasant, but since you are trading and generally making money, you can afford the finer things in life, sumptuary laws notwithstanding.
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>>168909327


They banned me for posting Grobi lewds.
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>>168909184
How is life without a penis?
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>>168909101
>these people don't exist

Yes, they did.

There's been plenty of shitposting about that.
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So it seems CA is going to be changing the faction screen with the Bretonnia release.
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>>168909415
There are working peasants and the solidering peasants that a knight might give a friendly nod to after he survives while his 99 brothers did not.
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So is this guy just some questing cuck that actually made it all the way into Athel Lorena nd got forest magic shoved up his ass from the elves?
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>>168909487
If you don't have a stake in the argument, then why are you pretending that nobody ever shitposted about Bretonnia having inferior cavalry?

It's like the faggots who claim that there's no such thing as a racist Trump supporter.
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>>168909671
He's the first King of Bretonnia. The Lady of the Lake is his breeding bitch.
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>>168909535

Why do you think I'm waging war all the time?
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>>168909671
Well you know how it goes with the wood elves and forests.
You either pay with brass ...or your ass
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>>168909583
Of course they are. The only reason they regressed from the Attila style of faction selection is because there were so fucking few factions to choose from in the first place.
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>>168909827
Alright, listen to me you pole-proportioned dendrophile!
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>>168909671

He's the ghost of Gilles le Breton the Uniter, the legendary first king of Bretonnia.
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>>168909101
>I never shitposted about bretonnian cavalry
>I was just making legitimate arguments in a legitimate discussion! I swear!

Kek
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Bretonnian cavalry pre Old world is pretty underwhelming compared to peasant hordes.
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Reminder you will never bang a hot smoking dragoness
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>>168909685
I only know for sure what I've seen and I haven't seen what you've described.

What context are they talking shit about Bretonnian cav?
TT?
Current unfinished/unbalanced roster?
Hypothetical finished roster?

Everyone knows how good Bretonnian cav has been on the TT for fourteen years now so I don't think any new commentary on that front could possibly be taken seriously if it differed from accepted facts.

The second option I haven't seen because of the self-advertising fact that they are by definition unfinished.

And the last possibility is pure conjecture. And nobody should be triggered by that.

I could shout out that TYRION WILL BE WORSE THAN ARCHAON IS RIGHT NOW and it won't matter. Even the most autistic of Helf fans won't give a fuck about such an empty and baseless comment. And if I'm wrong and somebody remembers I won't be "BTFO" because I was never invested.
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Skaven when
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>>168909583
Good, this one right now is definitely placeholder
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>>168908938
tbqh I finished my VC campaign but really playing them as a standard faction (kinda new to TW, only 40-50 hours in Attila before). I've been itching to go back and do the 1 stack zombs/skellies with 1 elite cav/monsters reinforcing strategy ever since and Isabella gives me a good excuse.

Also, now that I failed my Empire campaign, what should I try 'till the next update ? I don't have King & Warlord (or Chaos and Beastmen but not interested in the horde mechanic) yet but may pick it up.
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>>168910091
Why do you write so pretentiously about shit nobody cares about?
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>>168909776
Lileath is a virgin and the furthest she'll go is to ERP with Teclis.

Gilles le Breton is her boyfriend(platonic).
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>>168909671
He made elven goddess Lileath his wife and sired half elven children that become ancestors of Louen Leoncoeur and Fay Enchantress.
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>>168909827
>>168909987


Ok, why is he all GREENED then? Seems like hs is some Wood Elf sleeper agent.
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>>168909295
>>168909309
>>168909426
There's a Warhammer mod, but I can't find a download link for it. Is it on their forums? Because I think you have to purchase a game to access its forum.
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>>168910326

He's a ghost you dip.

He's green because the lake where him and the Lady are always fucking is full of weeds and algae
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>>168910262
I have autism.
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>>168910262
Why did you take the time to reply to something nobody cares about?
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>>168910326
He literally fucked the hell out of that elven bitch and become her immortal champion.
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>>168903878
I want to do louen, but I think Alberic will be my first LL run through as bretonnia since I've done some modded bretonnia play throughs and I own lord when i played the table top game was always just a generic lord.
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>>168910408
Ask on /gsg/ and they will dig it out for ya...maybe its in the OP too.
>>168910326
He banged an orc, duh.
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>>168910073

>ywn have a belt made out of castles either
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>>168910443
Why did you take the time to reply to a reply to something nobody cares about?
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>>168910414

You are gay.

>>168910445

I now accept this as canon.
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So i just watched video about Mousillon and what the fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZL4quNDXes

I always thought it just like Sylvania, but with peasants and vampire knights
But looks like it absolutely fucking shit hole
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>>168910712

>sylvania but with peasants and vampire knights
>but it looks like an absolute shithole

checks out
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>>168910408
Yeah the mod forums are gated behind registering your key. And I think now it may even be linking your steam account. I haven't touched mods for a long while.
Just get somebody to find you a direct download link. Shouldn't be too hard.

Geheimnisnacht is okay. A lot going on and it kinda runs contrary to the grain of both Warhammer and CK2. In that they don't really join.

You either play important named character X and it isn't really a CK2 game any more because you never change much and are practically immortal.
Or you play as literally who and then it's a weird watered down Warhammer setting and fairly vanilla CK2 gameplay.

Don't know how stable it is at the moment, I know that before the game used to slowdown immensely because of the event they used to generate more amazon characters was a weird script rather than the actual conception and birth mechanics most characters use.
And it was out of control so there were more amazon characters in their irrelevant shithole than in like the entire empire.\
And the fix for that wasn't to remove the script but to mod over the mod a crazy mortality rate for the amazon race.

>>168910712
Everywhere is a fucking shithole with no exception in any universe GW creates.
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>>168910492
not with that attitude you won't
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Are beastmen stronger than Rats?
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>>168910712

Are you implying Sylvania isn't a shithole?
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>>168910969
it's a better place than mousillon and zombopeasants.
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>>168910946

Ratmen don't exist faggot, but if they existed tey would waaayyy stronger that those dumb goat-things.
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I just realized I won't receive the Blood Dlc's cause yesterday the winner was DOW2, instead of TW:WH.

Fuck me, man. The only prize I was barely interested in and we lost...
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>>168909415
You become a merchant in the big cities. There are a lot of them. They are not as powerful as the burghers in the Empire though.
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>>168910492
>mfw ask her for some casual sex
>she wasnt dicked for centuries
>humans are too shitty for her taste
>would only bang bandana crazy elf dude
WELL FUCK YOU TOO. IL GO SCREW A DRYAD INSTEAD AND SMELL LIKE LAVENDER FOR A WEEK
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>>168910946
As a political entity?
Neither is capable of properly uniting outside of extreme(Nagash) circumstances.

A beastman obviously squishes a rat, but the rats are cunning and have technology. So they'll probably poison a minotaur to sleep and kidnap it and get it high on warpstone crack and splice its legs with a couple of doomwheels and set it on its former herdmates.
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>>168911084
Wasn't the Blood DLC prize only for all the games before Warhammer?
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>>168911202
>screwing a dryad.

finally I found a reason to post this glitch I had once.
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>>168910946
Physically? Obviously.
Militarily? Nope.
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>>168911202
No friend, she has a taste for dwarf meat.
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>>168911410
STUNTIED
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>>168910936
>>168910936
>A lot going on and it kinda runs contrary to the grain of both Warhammer and CK2.

I'm sort of interested exactly because it's an unusual approach to the Warhammer setting.
>>
Fuck man imagine how badly CA is going to fuck up the next expansion.

>Reddit rats
>Dreaded 13th spell is another generic direct damage spell that is unviable because it has no area, does less damage than flock of doom and costs more
>Doomwheel is Black Coach 2.0
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>>168911410
>Dwarfs?
>I don't know, maybe it's a dragon thing.

I love the dialogue in this series.
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>>168911336

Yeah, I think so.
Still, I'm missing it for Shogun 2.
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>>168911582
why are skaven considered reddit?

not a warhammerfag
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>>168911687
>why are skaven considered reddit?
jealousy because they're the best faction
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>>168911687
it's a meme for memebrains
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>>168911357
Warhammer has superiour tree tits.
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>>168911687
they're well liked
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>>168911410
Goddamn
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Is there a roll chart for Third Age DaC?
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>>168911687
They're a pretty wacky race who could potentially destroy the other races if they weren't so wacky.

Done right they're hilarious, done badly they're annoying and overpowered. William King knows how to write them right, whoever was behind End Times wrote them wrong.
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>>168911920
Yep, somewhere.
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>>168911920
Just throw a dart at your screen.
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Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - ?V7VJ-NPJ9V-RVE?G
? = 3
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Sorry if I'm late, but I've seen that TW Warhammer won the MWNL competition, still I didn't receive nothing for it. Is that their error or it's just that they didn't send any prize?
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>>168912369
28th I think, with all the new updates.
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>>168912269
ta la
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>>168912269
Not working. Shame.

>>168912369
If you mean in general, yeah, we will get Isabella with the Bretonnia update.
If you mean from yesterday's victory, apparently, we lost.

Funny. We win every shit yet once there is a TW prize we lose.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>168911953
The joke is that they are a shadowy race of ruthless conspirators who occasionally get themselves blown up or eaten by their own creations.
>>
Attila is possibly the best TW game to date.
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Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore - ??5BX-2LCLK-FP7VG
Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - ?I30B-0Y35L-3W900

? = 2
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>>168912928
Huh, I never realised that the blood DLC for Attila doesn't add any units or anything
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And I think to myself...
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Got mail from sega, have all those dlc alredy

Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore
63HPY-DLKZA-GB2M3

Total War Attila: Blood and Burning
6X9EE-C8BVL-E3R5E

Shogun 2 Blood Pack
7Z4E6-G72ZV-4ZMRK
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>>168913158
>Shogun 2 Blood Pack
ta la
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>>168913220
fuck youuuuuuuu
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>>168912928
Oh yeah and Shogun 2 Blood Pack - ?JZ96-2JV96-R3DKI
? = 2
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>>168912891
So they're jews?
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>>168913150
>dis stinks!!
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>>168913150
what unit is that?
i think the only goblin artillery i seen was the one that launches goblins with wingsuits
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>>168913385
Gnoblars are jews.
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>>168913385
No that's the Chaos Dwarfs.
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>>168913496
My purchase of the inevitable Ogre Kingdoms DLC hinges on the Gnoblars having hilarious Liverpool accents.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/455041/
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>>168913385
No that's Wood Elves.
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>>168913651
She looks better when she doesn't frown.
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>>168913821
What woman doesnt.
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>>168913821
>>168913651

She looks like she has no eyebrows.
>>168913275
>>168913158

Dammit, I'm missing Shogun 2 and Attila blood packs.
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>>168913917
>women have eyebrows
Are you retarded? They puck them out.
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Shogun 2 Blood Pack - 40?KW-55PPN-4YPW0

? = X
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>>168913158
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>>168913651

the only good thing about all this is the Vlad has his own faction he's leader of now

Isabella is ugly as sin, and the only use for her will be buffing Vlad and his armies
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>>168914048
Thanks.
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>>168913158
I forgot to thank you. Thank you a ton
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>>168913821
Why does she have pointy elven ears ?
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Jesus christ, why the fuck can these goblin fucks run so far in the campaign map, they're running x2 the distance I can in my own land
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>>168902006
Hey guys I really enjoyed reading about the Lords and Heroes in OP's pastebin. Is there anywhere I find out in detail about units for all the races?
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G O B L I N Z
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>>168913651
Wew, she's bae
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>>168914168
>mfw the capital will be in a small town instead of castle templehof or something

They really need to fucking make it so you can change capitals. Or at least make it so the first big city you get becomes you capital.
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>>168914378
they're in march stance and you're not?
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Whats a good faction in Warhammer for me to learn to git gud at the game?

I've tried each one but never played a full campaign with any as when I face an enemy close to power with me or more powerful I fail and quit the campaign.

For example with Bloody Hand I had a large portion of the badlands and another Greenskin faction had the rest and I attempted an attack on their largest stack but lost most of my only big army leaving all my settlements open to attack so I gave up.

I did like vampires a lot because of turtling ability which is key for learning I think.

General tips would be appreciated too.
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Thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLUoycO3m_A
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>>168914523
Why don't you use crysnos' startpos.esf?
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>>168914670
Dwarfs
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So what's with the Lord of The Storm and Foot of Gork damage scaling? They delete cavalry but don't really do anything against infantry. Does lying on the ground provides i-frames for infantry?
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>>168914019
>They puck them out.

No we don't. A bit, to create the arch, but not entirely. People look dumb without eyebrows.
>>168914670
You didn't even fail, mate.
Don't quit as soon as things start to look bad. you'll grow scared of them and become a coward and a weakling. Face you fucking fears, dammit.

Strike when they are weak. Make an army with a good composition and strike to steal a few regions. Keep a secondary army to secure your rear and give support to the main one.
Use agents to scout enemy armies, slow them down and fuck their economy (as much as you can, since the AI cheats anyway...)
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would you stick your dick in it?
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>>168915096
>we
Trannies pls leave. You arent chicks.
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So where does Vladdy actually start?
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>>168915167
I think I read Swartzchaven or whatever the fuck it's called.
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>>168915249
Word, makes sense
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>>168915097
The question isn't if, but where?
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>>168914115
This will be good, especially for AE :^(
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I want to rejoice as Bretonnia already.
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>>168913476
The Dwarves have that Goblin lobber RoR so I bet its probably that.
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>>168907653
Italian nobility is the best type of nobility, ya dingus
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>>168915592
Italians only do three things the best
Cars
Guns
Suits
Big fan of all of them.
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The only vampire heroes are women, right? If I wanted to field an army consisting entirely of vampires and maybe blood knights, would it be all women excluding whatever lord there was in the army? I'd like to have a variety desu
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Reminder
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>>168909184
I also identify as an orc warlord.

Y-You w-wanna go WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! sometime? :3
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>>168915775

quality memes
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>>168915514
>RoR
i seen this posted before, what is it?
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>>168915746
somebody's modded the female vampire as a lord, can someone mod the male vampires as heroes?
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>>168908483
Mannfred is still the best lord in the game. Best magic, flying dragon zombie, and top tier melee.
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>>168913158
Oh cool, thought they weren't going to do those since they just skipped the 4th challenge and announced Warhammer as the winner. Still waiting for the email though

Were the other games even supposed to win?

TWW was the only one that had DLC announced if they won but I didn't hear about any DLC from the other games.
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>>168916079
regiment of renown
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>>168916092
yes, the modding alone would be trivial. They would have female names.
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>>168915723
>italian cars
>italian guns
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>>168916079
Regiments of Renown, its part of one of the DLC's. Gives you suped up version of units for higher cost. You get access to more of them as your lord levels up. Oftentimes the RoR units will look a little different too in addition to being stronger than its normal counterpart.
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>>168916228
>hating on the beretta.
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>>168916228
>Not italian cars
>Not italian guns
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>>168913821
VLAAAAAD? IM LOOKING FOR MY HUSBAND VLAD

HAVE YOU SEEN HIM?
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>>168916228
Would be hilariously ironic if you're American.
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>>168916195
>>168916275
Ah, those units with purple text or whatever? I seen some in the Empire's armies in my game but I thought they were merc units or something.
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Speaking of vampire related shenanigans, rate this idea of a building.
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So I'm not a big expert of the Warhammer world, mainly because when I search something I just get boring wars after wars. I'm more interested in the lore. Let's start with something basic, reproduction, how does it work for the various races?

I think that human are quite obvious
I remember reading that orks are like bacteria, they divide in multiple organisms.
Vampires are also quite self explicatory
What about dwarves? Females have beards too?
What about Beastmen, do they have beastwomen? Do they crossbreed with shit like harpies? Or are they zoophile fucks?
Wood Elves are also a total mystery to me
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>>168916395
Yea, they start out maxed rank too with the triple gold chevron's. Especially good for early campaign when you don't have access to much.
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>>168916493
I can't attest if its precisely the same in fantasy, but 40k orks reproduce by releasing spores when they die. These spores eventually mature into more orks, of varying types.
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>>168916441
A Human Settlement in a Vampire Faction that reduces Corruption? For WHAT purpose, exactly?
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>>168916441
meh

Vampires don't like taking humans to war because they're inconvenient. Skeletons are just as good and you don't need to feed skeletons.

but whatever. that's just me. I'm sure someone would like it
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>>168916303
>Italians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqoOk5nZEKw
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>>168916493
Orks are like fungus, they release spores. I've seen people say they release them when they die but I didn't think they had to be dead to do that.

Beastwomen exist but they are known to be docile so they just exist to breed and raise young. They also get beastmen from mutant babies that humans have that the parents don't have the heart to kill so they leave in the forest and the beastmen come snatch them up to raise as their own.
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>>168916695
it seems to also boost income and include human units which would possibly contain ranged units.

Its as bad as you think
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>>168916695
they generate boatloads of money.
You can theoretically build 5 of those buildings in a settlement. Each of them would generate 500 gold and increase the productivity of all settlement buildings by 50%.
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>>168916760
Italians are shit at war, thats a given.

But they make nice cars and guns.
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>>168916441
I saw a picture before with Isabella leading empire units. Is this a mod or is this actually gonna happen with Vlad faction? Be interesting to have VC's with some ranged at least.
>>
The Inept General makes just as many lore mistakes as arch.

Why did you guys recommend him to me.
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>>168916871
I'm assuming you're the modder, but if not, hope he sees this.

If that's what you're going for, why not make the unit recruitment a part of the garrison force instead? Would make sense. Why would humans risk their lives to serve in a vampire army? They'd want to confine themselves to their cities and try to not get eaten.
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>>168916961
I am making a "radious tier mod" that will add basic empire state troops to the vampire factions. They will generally be underpowered because of no tech advances and the like but would be a nice fluffy addition to the vampire counts.
And yes, they include crossbowmen.

I don't know if someone else is making a mod like that.


Any ideas on what else I could add to the vampire count buildings?
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>>168916493
Beastmen Gaves are interesting.

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gaves

I also read somewhere that beastmen don't attack the human parents that go into the woods with the mutant child. This might have been from an edition before GW made beastmen even more bloodthristy.
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>>168917068
He is not a cunt and don't claim he is loremaster
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>>168917142
Specialist troops. And I plan on making them largely a garrison unit. The units you see recruitable are just for testing to see if they are working properly on the campaign map.
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>>168917194

>adding empire units to VC
>radious tier

That's actually lore-friendly, anon.
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>>168916493
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>>168917378
apparently adding infrastructure to the empire makes the game unbalanced according to our resident mod expert.

Stuff like buildable roads and industry is shallow and adds nothing to the game.


What else should I add for the vampires apart from human settlements?
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>>168916216
including voices? I assume renaming wouldn't be too hard, right? at least you can change them in-game
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>>168916493
>Beastwomen

You can Beastmen doe's as followers. But a lot of beastmen are just mutant humans or the results of beastmen raids. And yeah apparently chaos can work in mysterious ways.

Wood elves are you typical way. Just be afraid though. they like to kidnap bretonnian kids is all i'm saying.
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>>168917212
Yeah this is the kind of shit I'm interested in. I think it would be nice if they included more lore in the Warhammer games, maybe in the form of some bestiary and documents
>>
Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore - BJMB6-W7I2G-WXNZL

Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - B5325-YKIDH-0V644
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>>168917668
yes. The voices and the like would be easy.

Honestly the biggest problem right now would be that the faction leader would look like a chick but sound like a dude, but come bretonnia and the Old World edition every vampire faction leader would be replaced by a non vampiric lord Legendary lord.
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>>168916896
well, nice guns except their WW2 ones
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>>168917743

Yeah, if you're totally new to the franchise it's a hell to get into. Even worse if you try it with Age of Shitmar.
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>>168916493
>I remember reading that orks are like bacteria, they divide in multiple organisms.

In Warhammer 40,000, orks reproduce via spores released throughout their lives and after death. The spores create a fungal ecosystem which grows snotlings, squigs, goblins and finally orcs. It has never been explicitly stated that they reproduce in the same manner in Warhammer Fantasy, but in later editions reference is made to "orcish spores" arriving in the Old World.

Every female dwarf miniature released by GW that I know of has had no beard and in the now defunct online game Age of Reckoning all female dwarfs are depicted with no beards.

Beastmen have females but they are in the minority and are neglected by males. Beastmen can also reproduce with humans and some species of animals. Beastmen may also be the result of random mutation in the normal population.
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>>168917873
they had some of the best SMGs of the war.
>>
What the FUCK is this shit? I've been gone for 30 days on some remote island jacking off to passing ships from a lighthouse, and now that i've come back to civilization, the bretonnians STILL isn't available??
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>>168918007
>I've been gone for 30 days on some remote island jacking off to passing ships from a lighthouse

Where was that? Did you get paid?
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>>168917865
I was talking about adding the vampire lord models/voices to the vampire hero roster so that when you hire a hero it could be either male or female
>>168917830
shit, thanks lad
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>>168918082
I think you can only do one or the other anon.
Or you can just make a custom Vampire lord hero, call it Vampire lord (Female) and make it your waifu.
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>>168917948
sure, but that's like 10% of the armaments of a squad. you need a good rifle and LMG most of all
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>>168918206
The italian rifle was alright
the breda was a meme.
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>>168918056
Of course. I'm a lighthouse keeper aka modern electrician doing maintenance. Usually two week shifts but i swapped with a colleague to get a month off. Norway's full of lighthouse islands. I see it was all for NOTHING.

Thanks Trump!
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>>168916648
Read skarsnik, they are spores too
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>>168918396
Sounds a bit boring but very comfy. Do you get paid well?
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>>168917929
Again, read skarsnik novel. They are spores
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>>168918396
I wish I could get a job like that. I find being around people so stressful.
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>>168918396

>mfw I've never had a job for more than 5 months straight
>been a trainee for a dozen companies yet nobody wants to hire
>live on social welfare
>hardcore introvert
>watch facebook and look at all my classmates and see they all have families and proper lives
>I'm 27

Poor as dirt as a kid, poor as shit as a adult.

Maybe suicide really is an option.
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>>168918745
no it isnt

also about the Old Friend: I dont give a fuck about who, but what is it supposed to be?

Another legendary lord?
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This is licensed and approved Warhammer Fantasy artwork.

Can you imagine if we got shit like this in TWWH?
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>>168918745
really makes you think
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>>168918745
>mfw I've been working a dead-end job for 3 years now
>still live with my mother
>hardcore introvert
>no social media, but all my friends are getting engaged/married and will obviously soon be having kids
>I'm also 27

I have plenty of money, I just don't have any motivation to spend it on anything.

Suicide is becoming a better option by the day.
>>
>>168918528
It's alright. I usually bring a laptop to play games on. Foolishly i decided to "better myself" and leave it at home, and read books instead. Ended up doing nothing. The view gets old fast though. Pay is top line for rather low level education. As an electrician, you won't find a better paying job. It's almost oil platform tier pay for two weeks a month (like oil platforms). Mostly calm, but can be intense times where you get little sleep. Say, a storm and lots of merchant ships passing.

>>168918656
You'd hate it then. We're always 3 people on a tiny island in an even tinier building due safety reasons as well as having different area of expertise. The two other roles are communications and medic/captain of rescue boat.
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>>168919010
WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT OUR CHAINS

What's the most commie faction in Warhammer?
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>>168918935
>no it isnt

I know, it's not. I happen to be a very self-conscious person and I know it would completely destroy the lives of my family, nothing would ever be the same for them.

BUT GODDAMN IF IT ISN'T TEMPTING.
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Gud tree ya have 'ere, panzies
>>
>>168919235
if you're serious see a therapist or talk to family members and not a video game thread on 4chan
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>>168919180

WElfs? Kind of? None of the races are that unique in terms of governance.
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>>168919180
>What's the most commie faction in Warhammer?
Bretonnia
Dirt poor peasantry with rich elite running everything.
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>>168919180
From a political point of view, nobody.

From a philosophical point of view, Tzeentch.
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>>168919180
Warhammer is a pre industrial fantasy setting, its incapable of sustaining any form of commie society.

Much like real life
>>
Another VC LL? And one that already will make the OP Vladdie twice as OP?

Anyway, can vamps even feel "love"?
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>>168919491
>yfw the Soviet Union was all about the exploitation of the peasantry, only building in core areas and neglecting general infrastructure.
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>>168919358

Therapists costs lots of money, of which I have none. And no, I would never commit sudoko, but the thought itself is rather tempting.

Fucking video games, man. The 28th can't come soon enough.
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>>168919695
>Therapists costs lots of money

If you live in a civilised country, you could find a psychiatrist on a universal healthcare scheme.
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>>168919681

>There are four problems with Soviet agriculture; spring, summer, fall and winter.

Reagan was based as fuck.

It's fucking hilarious that we even have communists today considering every former Soviet state is still recovering 26 years later.
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>>168919354
Ayy what's with the cyrillic ehh? We /english/ here
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>>168919898
>It's fucking hilarious that we even have communists today considering every former Soviet state is still recovering 26 years later.
because MUH TRUE COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED
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>>168919898
Reaggan was charismatic but subpar prez.
Where is Huey Long when you need him...
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>>168919695
Just get out and meet people. Find a bar to hang out at.
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>>168919695
>I would never commit sudoko, but the thought itself is rather tempting.

I've heard that before. They killed themselves a few months after telling me that.
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>>168919646
Vladdie was literally obsessed with her because she resisted his vampiric mind control and didnt turn her until she contracted a terminal ilness.

He refused her for decades because "no honey, its a terrible thing to be an undead, i like you alive"
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Ladz, I'm avin some trouble wiv trollz.

I cannot get them to work for me and they're my best source of armour piercing at the moment vs the dorfs.

I take it I am meant to have a character running along with them?

Are trolls just rubbish?

Is there a good unit guide for da orcs?
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>>168919180
The non-meme answer is that it's impossible in a renaissance style era. The bourgeoisie is only beginning to rise up in the Empire and challenge the nobility.
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>>168919898
It's funny, because Reagan's social policies were center left. And today, GOP wouldn't even look at him. Too liberal.
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>>168920135
You should always stick your general in the frontline with your troops since greenskins have crappy morale, but specially if you're using trolls. And remember to have your trolls mixed in with your infantry, not surrounded, or they'll rout asap.
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>>168919969
#Notmycommunism
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>>168919646
The same way you love a dog, yes.

>>168919969
Except it was in China, and like 60 million people died because of it.

>>168920135
>Are trolls just rubbish?

Fuck no, trolls are great, IF you can boost their morale.

For AP get Bigguns or Nasty Skulkers. The latter can eat up plenty of dorfs.
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What i don't get is why people think communism is a single ideal, when itself is split into so many subfactions (all whom hate each other) that an umbrella term is oversimplification
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>>168920352
>Except it was in China, and like 60 million people died because of it.
NAH BRO NOT TRUE COMMUNISM
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>>168919121
invest?
get connections for investing?
be a human being?
>>
Vamp Counts are fucking bullshit.

>Wipe 2 armies to nothing
>Both full strength 2 turns later
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>>168920516
>just b urself ;)
neck yourself cunt
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>>168906180
No shields.
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>>168920425
It actually isn't, if marxism is the base standard. Maoism is exceedingly different, just like stalinism or juche.

Not that i think communism will work anywhere with more than 10 people.
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>>168920406
Because the commies insist that their definitions are the only definitions that matter, meaning that all commies insist that there is only one true communism, they just all disagree on what it is. Its ridiculous.
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>>168920406
Because most people treat politics like team sports, where the sides and goals easily determined.
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>>168920294
>>168920352
Fankz ladz.

I'm trying to run orc or gobbo only armies.

So currently (very late early game - won the badlands bowl)

I've got orc armies of

3X catapults,
5 Orcs
5 archers
3 boarboyz
3 trollz

My gobbos are
5 night gobbos
5 night gobbo archers
3 catapults
big boss
3 trollz
Shaman
Squigz
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You people said legend has autism
I didn't believe you, but its flaring up so much now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNsNq5QEVM
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>>168920535
>finally conquer tier 5 Castle Drakenhof with dorfs
>sack for 8000 shekels
wew lad, sack that shit
>still have movement points so go back to raze it
>option is no longer available
who the fuck thought this was good game design?
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>>168920712
>I need to cheese it to breeze it
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>>168920690
should probably swap out 1 or 2 archers for boar boyz, orc archers aren't that great 2bh
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>>168920650
It's not ridiculous, it's politics. Of course people disagree about the correct interpretation of an idea and/or the correct way to implement it. This isn't just a commie thing. All politics is like that.
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>>168920690
You don't need that many archers as gs. At least not with orcs, I guess night goblins do better. And you should definitely get more cavalry.
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>>168920778
>i need to cheese it
>meanwhile the OP as fuck garrison units all replenish back to 50% in a single turn
yeah nah fuck off cunt
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>>168920690

>boarboyz

For what purpose? Gobbodoggos are better, and can 1vs1 a quarreller if they don't get a shot off first. Also, get rid of arrer boys, they're not worth the hassle. Savage arrers are better, but focus on melee instead.

>>168920712

Just do it next turn.
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>>168920650
Like how american parties all claim their party represent "real" liberty?
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>>168920962
Then fucking raze it instead. You can't do both because getting 8000 gold for razing is dumb.
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>>168921009

Pretty much. Every nation adopts some form of ideology and give it their own spin.
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>>168920712
Because why would razing it even be an option if not? Might as well auto-raze everything you sack.
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so here's current update on my campaign

africas almost fully subjugated just 2 or 3 cities left

lost 1 city in operation anatolia to rebellion, seleucids managed to break through to the south with 2 armies and 1 army in central anatolia, situations fine though i have enough troops there to destroy them

situations changed in europe where the illyrians took a city that rebelled from me and then declared war so I've gone after them

spanish attacked me from the south and destroyed 1 roman army, they also have a alliance with germany so now I am at war with both of them, so I'm regrouping my forces in northern italy

2 fully stocked roman legions are moving through greece to crete so that I have a good staging area to conquer egypt

also an adopted son of my emperor had a unfortunate accident at sea which is quite fortunate for the current faction heir and will prevent a dynastic crisis in the future

on the map
circles = cities with garrisons
black dots = full enemy armies (at least over 60%)
white dots = roman legions
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>>168920842
>>168920932
>>168920963
So I should bin the archers for more cavalry and big fingz?
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>>168921051
>raze it and miss out on 8k
>still have enough movement to traverse the province but not enough to raze the settlement after sacking it
I just don't understand why they completely removed financial gain from razing a settlement considering they had it in Attila
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>>168921201
Almost like they want you to make a decision of getting money or depriving the enemy of a town. How dare they.
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>>168920425
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>>168921194
Keep a unit or two of archers just to engage the enemy archers and keep them from peppering your infantry without repercussion, but yeah other than that just get more cav. 3 trolls are enough
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>>168921129
I think we need a new umbrella term for all ideologies since everyone has different ideas yet claim the same, and people who subscribe to one group is probably stupid. Let's call it "politics universalis".
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>>168920925
>Of course people disagree about the correct interpretation of an idea and/or the correct way to implement it

Its ridiculous because they behave like dogmatic religious types, a certain level of disagreement is perfectly normal within a segment of an ideology, but communists arguments remind me of zealots arguing over scripture.
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>>168921296
>all your troops raze an entire settlement to the ground but somehow don't manage to grab a single penny from it
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>>168921412
most americans arguing over the ills of social democracy do the same.
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>>168921412
>but communists arguments remind me of zealots arguing over scripture.
You can replace communists with americans, and scripture with constitution
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>>168921319
ta

Late game I'm thinking about this

5 black orcs
3 big uns
2 rock lobbers
2 doom divers
shaman
2 giant
2 boar boyz
2 big un boar boyz

For gobbos same but swap the giants for arachnoroks
All gobbos with fanatics
squigz
trollz
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>>168921412
Still sounds like politics.
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>>168921472
You get money from battles just by winning them
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>>168921546
Nowhere near 8 grand
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gobboz
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>>168920535
> Able to support literally 3000+ troops with 2 towns
>Ton of purple units which can fuck everything up easily
>Flying units

Literally fuck this faction.
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>>168921585
Why not just cheat and give yourself 8k after every battle? And top tier buildings in every settlement while at it? Oh, and play the game on easy.
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>>168921509
I haven't played as gobbos, but in my dwarf campaign I can tell you that the biggest pain in my arse from them were the night goblin archers, the poison effect is a bitch and none of my units can catch them, the poison effect reduces missile damage too so they were completely fucking up my quarrelers
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>>168921671

>moot

Who?
>>
Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore - AZMLM-H8MVY-WIR7A
Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - CJ4M6-ZIMJ6-508LG
Shogun 2 Blood Pack - CDXYJ-GTAAR-YVV5E

If doubles then Kislev is next faction
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>>168921771
>Able to support literally 3000+ troops with 2 towns
It's almost like logistics isn't as important to zombies as it is to living!
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>>168921951
It's still fucking bullshit.
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>>168921827
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>>168921914
Thank you, took Attila.
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>zoom into the combat
>check out my zombies
>some are still fighting with missing heads
>mfw the brain rule doesn't work in Warhammer universe

Absolutely horrifying. Can you imagine trying to survive a zombie apocalypse scenario in the Warhammer world?
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>>168919969
The communist and anarchists before and during the Spanish Civil War had created a very free and prosperous society.

Though then stalinists who disagreed with the successful commies came along and killed everyone, paving the way for Franco's facism takeover.
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>>168921486
>>168921494
Yes, American politics is just as cancerous as communist politics.

Americans are probably worse, considering the lip service they pay to liberty and the fact that the constitution is treated more as a religious document than a text written by humans.
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>>168922169
Yeah because zombies are fodder. Pretty tame considering everything else Vampire Cunts have.
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>>168922192
>communism
>free and prosperous

You know the drill.
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>>168921771

>>Ton of purple units which can fuck everything up easily

What are you on about, all the base game factions have the exact same number of RoR
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>>168922169
At least it's not Dwarf Fortress setting where skin tissue from a stubbed toe will try to strangle you until you drop it into a magma pit.
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>>168922243
>He doesn't worship the Founding Fathers

Pitiful.
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Rock the boat!
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>>168922243
>the constitution is treated more as a religious document than a text written by humans
That's fair play to be honest, no other country's people have the protections and liberties granted by that miraculous document.

We don't even have legislated freedom of speech in my (so-called first world) country
>>
Endless Legend - Echoes of Auriga Add-on - 7XE47-PXWPV-E27EF
2P5IW-FDYLL-BC38B
Company of Heroes 2 - Southern Fronts DLC
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>start battle
>enemy runs away after brief skirmish
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>>168922386
Whats this meme lad
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>>168922243
>a text written by humans.
One which the said humans couldn't even agree on. Just days later they brought it to supreme court to argue over what the shit written actually meant. And every president after Washington proceeded to shit all over it (Adams with Alien and Sedition Acts, Jefferson with Louisiana purchase, Madison with Madison Doctrine etc)
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>>168906905
Isn't there already a mod that does that?

If you're trying to do it better, take some clues from what exists. Keep it low tech. Long bows instead of xbows.
The only thing left I'd guess would be scout cavalry. Light cav to scout ahead and harrass the enemy archers and stuff.

Keep it low tier. Otherwise it's just overpowering an already powerful faction.


Also, dunno if you already do it different from Human Levies, but can you try to give them human voices, and morale instead of crumbing?
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>>168922280
It's true. But the biggest difference is that this was spesifically a province (catalonia), not an empire sized nation of USSR or China
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>>168915775
With Attila mechanics in mind, he could win this battle if he got lucky. Pull back to the trees, use his front line as a blocking point and charge all the units behind him into the cavalry as soon as their charge is taken by the unlucky front guys.
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>>168922436
I would say that american dogmatism surrounding their founding myth and texts is probably more harmful than helpful to be honest. Americans don't have freedom of speech either, despite what /pol/ would have you believe, there are exceptions to American freedom of speech.
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>>168902704
Yes its a memeing, also yes that they're GOAT
>>
does anyone else HAVE to complete the side objectives?

i end up sitting on two cities till turn 20 because i have to wait for buildings to build
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>>168922474
>finally get an Endless Legend reward
>it's something I already have
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>>168922998
Is this game any good? my friend told me it's shit
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So do I have to turn everything to Ultra if I want to get some gorgeous screenshots of this? Because the shadows alone are smudges on the ground on high. And yes, I already checked the box for unlimited memory.
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>>168922616
A very expensive meme for a very wealthy meme city.
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>>168922765
that's the plan. They are literally empire state troops from the vanilla game so the mod will have near perfect compatibility with any overhaul you might be using.

I will probably be giving them free company archers that I made yesterday.


Alright lads, which shield set looks better?
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>>168923090
I found it boring after a while despite the rather fresh approach to actually unique civs. But i've pretty much played every x4 game, so i'm probably just weary of the genre in general.
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>>168923090
it's fun
>>
>>168923090
Get better friends

The game is good, it's better than Civ 5 ever was tbqh. The factions are all distinct from one another and the map/art is very comfy and aesthetically pleasing. The unit customisation is very nice and the quests reward you with some pretty cool gear.

If you like 4X games it's definitely worth a try.
>>
>>168923226
Left, the one on the right looks too different from the rest of the soldier's armor.
>ghostman on the right
Now I am truly immersed.
>>
Bundle Stars has currently a sale on TW, -15% for the Warhammer DLCs:

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/games?publishers=SEGA&search=total%20war&sale=true
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>>168914168

Oh so they won't group off Vlad with Mannfred anymore once the Isabella content gets released?
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>>168922290
where are mine then.
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>>168923513
got it, so I will just keep the regular heater shields.
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>>168923226
>tfw too intelligent to bring a shield to a fight.
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>>168923610
>tfw to intelligent too have a head
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Should I do it ladz?
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Codes for you poorfags out there

7P3TP-RVCZK-MIE0E

6G0AB-K0XBE-JHRZI

842ID-JRYK0-Q0NJ6

6BVX0-ZZ2IW-DNBI2
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What games are you all currently playing, /twg/?

I'd be playing Shogun 2, but I missed the sale on it. :\
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>>168923569

Yep, Vlad and Isabella get their own faction now.

As it goddamn should be.
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>>168923678
>No goblin archers.
You're not being the warboss Azhag knows you could be.
But naw, kill everyone.
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>>168923678
Do it ya git cyкa
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>>168923678
DAVE the Orc seems like a right proper lad.
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>>168923729
>Comix Zone
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>>168922243
You have a pretty nice constitution tbqh.

t. a guy whose country is about to have a referandum on a new constitution to determine whether we go full Islamic dictatorship or not
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>>168923774

Sweet.

Will Vlad also be getting more quests or at least one involving disposing of Mannfred?
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>>168923953
>mfw living in a country that doesn't even have a constitution, nor free speech
>>
>>168923678
do it DAVE
>>168923953
what country?
>>
Would Konrad side with Mannlet or Vlad?
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>>168923953
Must suck to live in turkey and watch the mudslimes finally take over entirely.
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>>168913821
>diverse armies for absolutely no reason whatsoever

RP FAGS OUT
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>>168923610
>>168923513
Here's the FC archers that I showed yesterday in vladdy colors.
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>>168923747

Too much, really. I need to cut down.
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>>168923747
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>>168924076
Vlad
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>>168924076
Vlad. It would also put both factions at 3 LL's.
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>>168924108
>Fighting 3 stacks of just chaos marauders on foot
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>>168924181
are you playing them or just have them installed
>>
>>168924035
Turkey
>>168924106
It really does. I'm 25 and Erdofags have been running the country since I was 14. Every year it gets worse.
Although I have a weird gut feeling that No will win. Silly hope, but it is there.
>>
>>168923729
Do you or someone else have the Chaos DLC or some other cheap one? I have Wooden Elves and Bestmen but I didn't feel like buying also the others
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>>168922662
Dwarf Rune build is god tier.
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>>168923747
>tfw waiting for the brets
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>>168924181
>tfw I bought Lionheart on release
>tfw it turned out to be shit
>>
>>168924181
This is some high quality taste
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>>168924334

Playing pretty much everything Stellaris and the PS2 emulator stuff, which I use only for Predator: Concrete Jungle anyway.

>>168924451

I like the Necromancer optional path in the first chapter. Shame it falls apart later on.
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>>168924181
> Bloodlines
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>>168924392
Always have hope, my friend.
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>>168924418
>Wooden Elves
>>168924552
Everything other than Warrior falls apart, the game was a complete rush job.
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>>168923747
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>>168922169
That's because they're being kept together by the channeler. If the brain rule applied then skellys wouldn''t even be a thing.
>>
>>168922865
>you can't yell fire in a crowded theater
>you can't threaten to kill someone

WOW AMERICA IS BASICALLY NAZI GERMANY!
>>
>>168923747
Total war eats up my entire game budget. So I play TF2 on the side.
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>>168922662
>Attacking Norsca with a stack of nothing but Hawk Riders and a single Waywatcher.

FUCKING GENIOUS
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>>168924035
GO ON MY SON
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>>168921140
You don't seem to employ the tactic of attacking the enemy in the back i.e attacking enemy settlements that are undefended in order to lower their recruitment capabilities
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>tfw you completely destroy your enemy
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>>168924782
>You right now
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>>168924885
>DAVE v DAITH
the ultimate showdown
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Wish we'd get a proper RPG which would let us live in Altdorf and explore it properly.
>>
>>168924885
I need a background story on Dave the Warlord RIGHT NOW.
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>>168924885
atta boi, DAVE, youz a right proper git
>>
>>168923747
>Bloodborne third run
>Total War Warhammer
>For Honor
>rarely Overwatch
>Gravity Rush 2
>>
>>168924979
I feel you are using that word incorrectly

It is a fact that you can say pretty much anything in America short of a few things which have been determined to be an attack on the lives of others, whether directly or indirectly
>>
>>168923226
Another hint to take from a mod that already exists (seriously, Cataph already did it, what's the need?) is a limited number of each. Humans living under the Counts are somewhat few in number. Two of which max for each army, four max in total might be good.


And empire state troops from the vanilla game is redundant. The Counts already have Spearmen and Swordsmen in the form of their skeletons and Grave Guard. If you don't want to simply copy Cataph's mod, fill the gaps that the Vampires have with low-mid tier units, otherwise there's no reason to take your units over vanilla variants, or vice-versa
>>
>decide to play Angrund
>starting out good
>Skarsnik waltzes down from the mountains around turn 18 at level 8 with a full stack, 1 Giant, 2 Arachanid Spiders and a Waaagh
:(
>>
>>168925164
I once read that it's not an uncommon sight in Altdorf to see Deathclaw just flying and roaming in the city. Combine that with the high college of magic and it's probably a fucking kick ass city to live in. (As far as Warhammer goes, at least)
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>beat vamp 2 stack once
>barely recover
>they come back with full numbers again
>win again

Feels good
>>
>>168925369
What you have said is also true for most western liberal democracies, the contention arises in how you define

>a few things which have been determined to be an attack on the lives of others, whether directly or indirectly
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>>168925538
>Karak Norn is still alive
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>>168920298
Got the prussia one?
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I'm new to this game
I did a siege or something to take a small town, and I selected occupy with my main Lords with his army of 2000+
did i fuck up? how do I get him and the army back?
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>>168925184
>>168925224
>>168925108
I'm not sure if DAVE has a back story really. He was the second warboss I recruited and I was fairly sure one of his roars sounded like DAAAVE so...well it stuck.
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>>168925721
Town and lord are separate. Click on the army banner to select the army. Occupying a settlement doesn't cause your army to disappear.
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>>168925164
Wish we'd get a proper RPG which would let us live in Tenochtitlan and explore it properly.
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>>168925761
I don't think you could have given us a better answer
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>>168925703
Pretty sure I do, I'll look for it
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>>168923747
All I've been playing desu
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>>168925761
That's about as good a backstory as any orc needs tbqh lad
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While we're at it, how many people actually rename their lords and units?
I'm too uncreative to give any good names
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>>168923747

Warhammer, WoT and a little bit of Siege.
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>>168925479
>cataph already did it.
His units were recruitable from ghoul crypts. If you didn't notice I am adding a few custom buildings to the vampire counts so that playing as them feels like you actually have humans in your empire instead of living in the set of thriller.

I will probably end up making a unit of Arbalesters (AP crossbowmen) and free company archers as recruitable units in the campaign. everything else can be garrison units.
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>>168924709

>tfw every time I boot up WC3 and play it extensively, it makes me want to go back to WoW
>game just isn't the same anymore
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I might try to make a map based on the Warhammer Online starter zone for the Empire.
It was pretty comfy.
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>>168926061
I had a Metal Band members theme going with my Empire campaign till they all got killed.
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>>168926117
you literally fight the quest battle there.
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>>168926117
The game in general was comfy, if it was one thing they managed to capture well it was the atmosphere
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>>168925703
Seems I don't have it, have this instead.
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>>168925990
thanks bud
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>>168923747
Stellaris
TW warhammer
Fallout 4
Pes 2017
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>>168926061
Usually I really like to rename stuff, in some games I gave them names of songs and bands (yeah, Jojo reference etc. etc.). Sometimes I just name them like philosophers, other famous charcters and stuff I like. Somewhat in Warhammer I just don't feel like doing that
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>>168926338
did you install the HD texture update for FO4?

I seen it was like 50GB or some shit
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>>168926061
I would rename legions in Rome 2 and Attila but that's the extent really.
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I've only recently gotten into playing TW: Warhammer, so I'm not really up to date with future content they have plannet, but have they mentioned anything about making Kislev a playable faction in the campaign?
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>>168926414
Fuck no. The difference is barely recognizable and my game looks good enough as is.

Most of those 50gb are duplicate files anyway.
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>>168923747
>R2
>HoI3 Black Ice
>XCOM EW LW
>Wargame: RD
>DS3

Planning to finally try out modded Distant Worlds Universe, get back to Dragon's Dogma and occasionally playing some modded DoW1 for the feels. I'm getting back to painting stuff and playing tabletop too.

The bad news is I have only like a couple of hours of free time per day.
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>>168925571
>I once read that it's not an uncommon sight in Altdorf to see Deathclaw just flying and roaming in the city.

Kek, that would be like one of the main "attractions" in their gameplay showcase video if they ever made it.

>You see that Griffon
>You can climb it
>Combine that with the high college of magic

I can't find the source for some reason, but the magic orders actually had a pretty crazy(and stupid) civil war because of some misunderstandings. The skies above the city got lit up magical fireworks.

>Bright wizards doing bright wizard things with fireballs
>Amber wizards doing amber wizard things and so on

>Fucking gold wizards just conjuring up gold and paying mercenaries to attack the other orders

"magic battles"
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>>168925990
Here, let me save ya the trouble.
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>>168926767
>Fucking gold wizards just conjuring up gold and paying mercenaries to attack the other orders

>I cast fireball!
>I cast flock of doom!
>I cast sword to the yugular. Power of money, motherfucker.
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>>168926492

There's a small chance of it, Kislev has the best chance out of any of the minor factions.
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>>168926492
Not for a while, if ever. There's hope for it considering how successful Warhammer has been but we aren't getting Kislev until the major factions are done.
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>>168926767
One of the Colleges is also built between dimensions or some shit and fucks with the surrounding neighborhoods making it impossible to live near it without going crazy or becoming a wizard.
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>>168923747
Fuck, I am unable to focus on one game recently and I just switch them constantly.
I'm just waiting for Bretonnia I guess.
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>>168926989

What other major factions are left for this game?

If I didn't misunderstand what they talked about, they plan to release 2 stand alone expansions for TW: Warhammer, that would add the other factions as well, stuff like Tomb Kings, Lizardmen and so on.

But will they be adding some other major factions to this one?
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>>168927118
>Soulstorm
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>>168926109
>Garrison units

No no no no that's a stupid idea as all hell.


Why would a human take up arms to defend from an Empire cleansing of the Vampire Counts, which is the enemy which they tend to face more. Unless that building also includes an Officer like a Necromancer or a Strigoi to keep them in line under penalty of death, the Empire coming would be the best thing to happen to them. The moment they see that massive Hypogryph Cock coming to fuck their masters they'd just gonna drop their weapons and run towards their saviors.


Unless you're some kind of modding savant who can change garrisons based on who's attacking, just keep them as recruited units.

And as for Cataph and make them recruitable from Crypts... yeah, good point there. Still, why get custom buildings? They're basic state troops. Not anything fancy that you can't get better off. Just make them recruitable from the City Center/Castle.

Weaker than Grave Guard and more costly than skeletons, but if needed you can raise a ragtag militia/state army to recolonize a razed land, or provide quick support for a main army. That way they'd have a niche without feeling reduntant.

Spearmen - Swordsmen - Archers - Halberdiers would be enough (Still gotta protest against Crowssbows. They're not exactly high tech but still require some level of technical skill the Counts don't really have or care about and the humans who do don't have any reason to share. Still, your mod).
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>>168927146
Lizardmen, Dark and High Elves, Ogres, Tomb Kangz. Dogs of War would be cool.
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>play as Kislev
>bear the brunt of all the Chaos doomstacks
>get wiped two turns later
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>>168927241
>Penalty of death

Yeah like that's gonna do any good. Counts have no ranged units and it's just ONE officer. If it was me, especially in the frontlines, the moment the Empire came close to firing range I'd flee like the fucking wind. At best that vampire fuckhead could kill 10 of my unit before him coming after me and my pals would greet him with 1200 angry men with guns and floppy hats
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>>168927298
Forgot skaven.
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>>168926492
Kislev is in high demand but we're just not sure. The closest thing we've gotten to new units and the like is the upcoming Bretonnia FLC, which adds a bunch that aren't on the tabletop to bring them on par with the other factions.

It's already weird having Kislev being a reskinned Empire faction, and now we're going to have to see how they tackle Araby.
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Must have mods?
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>>168927241
>>168927241
>Why would a human take up arms to defend from an Empire cleansing of the Vampire Counts, which is the enemy which they tend to face more. Unless that building also includes an Officer like a Necromancer or a Strigoi to keep them in line under penalty of death, the Empire coming would be the best thing to happen to them. The moment they see that massive Hypogryph Cock coming to fuck their masters they'd just gonna drop their weapons and run towards their saviors.

Because humans actually fought for the counts during the vampire wars and vampires are generally charismatic motherfuckers?
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wtf is that
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>>168927298
Dogs of war would work better as mercenaries for everyone rather than a faction.

Them dogs even march with some Warbosses, so it's not exactly weird to think they'd serve all factions other than chaosfuckers
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>>168927595
looks like a whale
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>>168927206
Well I just like to have as complete wh40k experience as i can have and most mods are on Soulstorm.
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>>168927595
chaos whale
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>>168927607
That is what I meant.

I don't want them to be a faction.

Although it would be a cool mechanic to have a nomadic army that did not have to rape and pillage everything.

Their victory condition would be to amass a fortune I suppose.
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>>168927206
Not him but
Ultimate apocalypse mod and alive multiplayer
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>>168927595
THERE GOES A NARWHAL!!
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>>168927146
Skaven are still necessary for the Old World but will most likely be on one of the standalone expansions.

Expansion 1 is going to be the New World which will have the Lizardmen, the High elves, the Dark Elves, and most likely the Skaven.

Then the 2nd expansion will most likely have the Ogres, the Tomb Kings, and the Chaos Daemons.
Here's where the best chance of getting some of the minor factions expanded on comes in. Kislev in the north and Araby in the south.

Could also see Estalia and Tilea in the New World expansion.
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>>168927595
Narwhal.
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>>168927589
And now they have shit like Mousillon and their own shitty, shitty lives to tell them how that turned out

And again the counts have no reason to use state troops as garrison units. They got renewable troops that literally come from the ground. A fuck-o with a spear and shield is less pratical, not to mention it completely diminishes the unique feel of the faction by making almost every settlement battle feature fucking humans (unless the AI wouldn't have access to that, and in that case it's just OC DONUT STEEL OP shit).
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>>168927747
>>168927796
they are barely bigger than a man they aren't carrying 100 beastmen
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>>168927754
Expansion 2 is chaos divided.
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>>168927241
The various Lords of the Vampires have better shit to do than babysit a bunch of humans. The Strigoi in particular would just use them for food.


I like the idea of making Sylvannia State Troops recruitable from their settlements. They're little more than a militia compared to the Empire's forces anyways, and it could open space for some pretty interesting strategies.
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Just so it's clear is Isabella von Carstein the only free DLC we got for Warhammer from the MWNL thing?
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>>168927835
>shit like mousillon
which they defend in a very feral manner.
>shitty lives.
And yet you have sylvanian peasants that dream about the good old days. My plan is to just have them serve in auxiliary roles in the roster with something like town guard. and a few archers.
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>>168926884
But anon, what if the market gets saturated?
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>>168928082
Yes
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>>168926109
>Garrison units

Explain to me why fucking Necromancers would waste their time and space building living space and armory to support human garrisons when they can just RAISE THE FUCKING DEAD?
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>>168928263
>raise the dead.
>they crumble when you trip and fall.
>rotten thumbs means they can't use ranged weapons.
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What happens when you raze the Tree?
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Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore - FPHYH-VEZGP-EJ0IY
Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - F97G6-3MRZR-X3480
Shogun 2 Blood Pack - FH07P-LFQNW-WXF2C
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>>168928160
Nigga just build more weaving houses.
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>>168928410
Nothing. Unless it's you playing wood elves, then you lose.
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>>168928323
>JUST NOW clearing out Athel Loren
Anon, I...
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>>168928329
What about skellis who dont have rot but only bones.
Khemri if i recall use archers.
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>>168928140
>Which they defend in a very feral manner.

No.

Fucking.

Shit.


They are so mutated a Witch Hunter wouldn't lose a single second of sleep for shooting them for consorting with Chaos Daemons. Their minds are pastry even by peasant standards, and they got literally nothing better to do than stand around and waiting to die.


If you're talking about giving Mousillon Garrison Peasants, no problemo. It was also already done, with custom models and a retexture no less (various mods, true, but much more complex in scope and done with each other in mind).

The Sylvannian "peasants" (stop using that term when referring to Empire citizens, it might be technically true but it makes things needlessly obtuse) don't give any indication about dreaming about the "good old days". In fact, if the Vampires start losing control of the region, they suffer constant nonstop human rebellions.
The citizens of Vampire holds are kept in line with fear, oppression, and the knowledge that they remain alive only as long as they are tangentially more useful than when they're dead and ready to be reanimated.

That's why Levies work, small number of humans in specialized positions in the midst of an undead horde. Usually put on the front or middle lines so they have nowhere to run to.
Even if they run away, now what? In the middle of an open field, their families back home, probably dead because of their desertion.

When defending, it's completely different. Their families are there. The Empire States have no reason to kill the civilians and little to no benefit. The Undead don't outnumber them for that much.

It just doesn't fit. Not even logistically. The living take a lot more to take care of than the dead. A self-sustaining town is much better defended by troops that never tire, or sleep. Even if live humans fight better, the Undead and the numbers and discipline humans don't have.
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>This map is HUGE! It's 29,952 pixels wide by 22,528 pixels tall. It includes, with incredible detail, all provinces of The Empire, Bretonnia, Estalia, Tilea, The Border Princes, Norsca, Troll Country, The Dark Lands, The Worlds Edge Mountains, Albion, The Badlands, Araby and more. This mega map was melded together by hours of photoshoping by Gitzman and is a compilation of all available maps into a single continuous, high detail map.

http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow.html
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>keep restarting my Empire Campaign because I have terrible army management and keep getting my forces wiped out due to me overextending them constantly
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>>168928863
Then what's the point of wasting time on attacking the Tree if the AI doesn't suffer massively from it?
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>>168928323
what unit size is that?
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>>168928323


>In the land of treemen and forest spirits, they said Athel Loren could never be humbled
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>>168928983
Not him, but the Tomb Kings aren't mindless slaves like the raised zombies and skeletons. I'm pretty sure the mindless raised dead are too dumb to do more complex actions, but I could be mistaken.

>>168929289
>Then what's the point of wasting time on attacking the Tree if the AI doesn't suffer massively from it?
There isn't one.
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>>168929513
I think TK are like necrons, only the top dogs are actually preserved enough to be sentient.
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I have been playing total war since Rome.

Played them all.

Never finished a single campaign.
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>>168910326
he`s green because he`s referencing the green knight from arthurian myth
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>>168925571
also
>second largest imperial enginnering college
>zoo with a dragon and pegasi and shit like that
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>grace confirming on reddit that isabella von carstein is the new lord from the flc array

rip red duke/boris
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>>168928140
>>168929081
And because I don't want to be a negative nancy like other people here, some actual suggestions:

The basic troops (Sword - Spear - Halberd) should have slightly less base melee attack and defense than their Empire counterparts (worse training and stuff) but more leadership.
>For the reasons I stated on the previous post. They know that there's nowhere to run, they're surrounded by undead that are scarier than almost anything they're facing and their families are at the mercy of the vampires back home.

The ranged ones should keep their stats, perhaps even slightly higher, but their leadership should be abysmal.
>Logic is fairly simple. Not only are they further away from the undead horrors as their melee counterparts, as the undead form a huge blob that tends to surround and hold the enemy army. If something managed to punch through the enemy horrors that something is probably worse than what the Vampires can throw at them
Balance wise it goes very well with the design philosophy of the Vampire Counts. Their State Troops are better at holding a line than the Empire's but aren't as good at actually killing stuff, a job best left for the Cavalry, Monsters and Heroes of the Undead.
Meanwhile they get ranged troops which covers a huge hole on their composition. However, the slightest mismanagement of them is going to end with them routing and fleeing, meaning that advantage needs to be well protected lest it be turned into a crutch.


Finally, I agree with some other posters here. Making them available from the settlements - I think tier 3 upwards personally - is the best choice. There's no necessity to needlessly overflow the building options and let's face it, the Vampires already have the best army of all factions. No one would reserve an entire building slot to buy units from another faction. At least like this it'd open more options.
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>>168929706
I've been playing since the original Medieval was released.

Only completed the Julii campaign.
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>>168929875
Not big surprise. I think TW was the only game to showcase its content. There's no way she should have been this close to completion without being planned out already
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>>168928140
>Feral, crazed peasants defend in a feral, crazy manner.
>Who would have guessed? It's like they're feral and crazed or something!
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>>168928951
I fucked up VC then fought chaos for a while.

Then the brets decided to invade me for some reason.

Now that I am big as fuck elves decided they wanted a piece.
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>>168911687
they're a so whacky cartoon logic race that everyone who doesn't know shit about warhammer fantasy claims is their favorite because they stand out so much. Lolsorandumb shit combined with whacky speech quirks makes for a lot of autistic roleplay posting about man-things and shit. It's just all around unsavory homos that dickride skaven edgelords. Most of all however is that reddit rats is some nice fuckin alliteration and just rolls off the tongue as an easy dismissal of people
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>>168929875
Wtf is this shit what if we lose than we still would get her for free?
Kinda disappointed
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>mfw Bretonnia actually has unique mechanics and new units that don't break the style of the faction
Makes me hopeful for the rest of the warhammer stuff, since it looks as though they've consistently been getting better at making factions stand out
Plus, whenever they've done games+1 (Napoleon, Atilla) they've been better than the base game
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

When I get home, I can provide blood codes for Attila and Shogun 2.
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>>168929690
The kings of Nehekhara were buried with their legions. When Nagash cast his big bad spell to raise all the dead to serve him, the wards and blessing on their pyramids protected them, and they all woke up with their minds intact.
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>>168929875
souce on that
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Here's hoping she's one of the legendary lords for the Tomb Kings.

>>168930510

What's up with that? I noticed a few people posting the blood DLC codes for other TW games. Granted, I am new to the general, so I don't know shit.
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>>168928263
the building slots represent more than just the settlement anon. It's supposed to be the entire infrastructure of the region. Which is why you can build things like farms and mines. The building chain I built represents local human communities generally living under the yoke of the vampire counts. Vlad for example wasn't such a giant cunt and when he was alive many living humans fought for him. The garrisons are supposed to represent people who have made their peace with the vampires and are defending their homes.

Having a hard cap on campaign units is something that is I am going to do as a last resort. I could also give them a very large upkeep cost so that the player will disband them, and the AI will have a low priority for them.

>>168929893
sounds good. And yes, I am going to rejig the recruitment tiers and stuff like that, maybe a small seperate chain to have a human armory building so that state troops can have their own mini upgrade chain. State troops in general scale better when they have the red skills selected and via tech.

Here are the archers. Their floppy hats are all gone and so will the plate.

And my mod isn't directed at people who are powergaming or making efficient armies. I enjoy roleplaying a lot when I play total warhammer and sometimes feel like it would be a neat thing to actively care for my faction and those that live in it.
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>>168930469
Just imagine , anon, just imagine, when the game is finished and we have all the fucking races plus chaos divided in 4,

one man can dream
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>>168930582
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5v5kuc/is_isabella_the_new_lord_from_this_image_because/ddztlj7/
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>>168930510
Fuck you, buddy. You ain't Bretonnia.

Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>168930645
MWNL prize for challenge 4. If you won, you got DLC for one of the contender games (Warhammer, CoH, Endless, DoW) and a code for an old Sega game.
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>>168930267
we were never going to lose that whole event was just posturing, hence why for the first time it didnt involve the community doing online matches at all
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>>168927589
Wait wait wait, lemme guess lad, y'ar the faggot behind them shite gunpowder and building mods, ain'tcha? Y'ar explanations smell like familiar duck-covered shite.


There are two types o' buggers in current times livin' in corrupted vampire lands, mate.
Important folk who the vampires rewarded with immortality
And the random joes who just found out how shite the vampires were and keep them mouths shut to avoid bein' bonemeal.

Any surprise on the livin' bein' so happy to rebel the moment the Vamps lose their powah?
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>>168930645
One of the rewards for mwnl was codes for all the wh blood dlc (excluding wh bc $$$)
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>>168930816
what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>168930708
>She isn't the Old Friend but the comment said I stated she's not the FLC array LL which I didn't say.
Yeah but she not really saying its next FLC, tho its probably
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>>168930851
>>168930760

Ah okay.

Shame about them not giving the Warhammer blood DLC codes.
>>
Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore - AVG78-65432-B9NDN
Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - AIK9N-A0R6G-9L724
Shogun 2 Blood Pack - 9G80E-PBWDC-TNEFP


Here you go guys. have fun
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>>168931013
I'm not too bothered about it to be honest. The Blood looks like complete shit in all the DLCs.
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>>168931013
wait, so tomb kings and VC hate each other? why? both are undead shits
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>>168930921
Don't reply
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Can someone give me a quick rundown on these guys?
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>>168931124

Vampires fucked up Nehekhara, so yeah.

Khalida especially hates vampires.
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>royal pegasus knights immune to vigour and have a bonus vs large

jesus christ how horrifying
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>>168931226
Giants? they are so dumb that they believe they are orcs and put giant jaws on them,selves to look like an orc
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I'm pretty new to TW:W how the hell do I deal with Mortar as Clan Angrund
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>>168930648
It's not really about powergaming. Let's say you're roleplaying. Why would a Von Carnstein field human levies if their undead are more efficient, or vice-versa? Why would they even have undead outside the powerful shit like Terrorgheists, Grave Guard and Blood Knights if rank and file humans are better?

Humans in VC need a niche. That niche can be "improvised militia" or "long range option since our skeletons can't hold a bow for SHIT", but outside of that even from a roleplay perspective it doesn't make much sense.

>Very large upkeep
That won't give the AI a low priority. That will stop the AI from recruiting them altogether. The AI tend to "powergame" a lot, but its also stupid. It'll try to make the stacks that give them the best balance between win ratio on Autoresolve and Manual, but it will very seldomly dismiss units. Hasn't changed in a long time.
It was why in Attila:TW it was almost always better to let the Huns live when Attila was close to arriving: They'd just be filled with shitty mercs the Huns hired to fill their ranks instead of the elite Hunnic units they got for free and don't have money to re-recruit (even with 0 upkeep).
Hard Cap fixes a lot of things. Roleplaying wise it's just a way of showing the human population is limited, and balance wise allows them to be slightly better than other Tier 1 units and widely available without being OP. Not to mention it allows the AI to field them in a normal manner. I like that anon's suggestion.

>>168930816
Dude
>First
That fake, forced writing is stupid and annoying
>Second
Why are you just crapping all over the guy? What's your problem?
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>>168931263
>Bretonnia given 12 types of trash infantry but not given a better than peasant vanguard skirmish longbow unit. like they had in 5th edition, Even in 6th edition you could skirmish a unit of peasant bowmen and vanguard them.

I don't care about spears swords and pitchforks.
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>>168931469

flying units and spread out your army you dumb fucking nigger
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>>168931469
If someone wants to shoot you and you are playing Dawi you out shoot that faggot cause no one can muster up a fire storm as well as they can.

If someone wants to outfight you and you are playing Dawi you beat the shit out of them in a war of attrition because nobody can outlast them in a drawn out fight.
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I love that bretonnian knights of the realm have anti-large. It means they have an advantage when fighting other cavalry, which is perfect for Jousting: The Faction.
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enjoy

Total War Rome II: Blood and Gore - 2HQZW-K32VW-70DME

Total War Attila: Blood and Burning - 2DPPX-WXPTD-BK57C

Shogun 2 Blood Pack - 2V7C3-AQRIB-6NI6R
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>>168931616
That would've been great. But I think they're going for Brets being all about hammer and anvil, with extremely limited ranged options.
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>>168931124
Tomb Kings didn't want to be undead shits
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>>168931124
They used to be on the same side but now they think each other are faggots.
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>>168931562
Simple. Ya know fair and share that guy's shite. Said so yourself by kinder words many time. Ya don't waste time talkin' to shite. Ya flush it down da toilet to the sewer were it belongs

>I'm just doing the voice because it triggers the dumb piece of shit retard, and anything that makes that arrogant prick not talk about his shitty mods makes this general less cancerous
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>>168930708
>all tunnels lead to skavenblight
reddit rats confirmed
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>>168931685
Cavalry count as large? I thought it was just Lords and things with "Monstrous" in their description.
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>>168932146
anything bigger than a human is large pretty much.
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>>168932146
yes, cav count as large
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>Leon: Pegasus Knights and Grail Knight
>Enchantress: Holy Water Trebuchet and Grail Guardians
>Alberic: Knight Errants.

Is Alberic the next Azhag?
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>>168931795
>Poison, Anti-regen flaming, or standard bows
>Regular and magic damage trebs.

think they'll be fine for ranged. But I just wanted my elite bowmen. or maybe they're a tease for the future.

But you're right about the Cav. bret cav is fucking scary now.
>Cheap peasant melee cav
>peasant bowmen skirmish cav
>Knights come in a variety of flavors
>anti-infantry
>anti-large
>armor piercing Anti-infantry
>tough, fatigue resistant anti-Large
>flying anti infantry
>tough flying fatigue resistant anti large
>Tough flying monstrous terror causing armor piercing
>Grail guardians have yet to even be shown.

And lore on life on top of all that cav......
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>>168931226
Used to be a mighty race known as the Skytitans, then the Ogres ate them all. The last few are inbred retards who follow anybody who can keep them fed. Certain frontier towns will pay a giant with cattle or beer to protect them.
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>>168931226
They used to be supreme civilization that manage to build cities in skies!
But then ogres appears enslave them and make them dumb
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>>168932146
>cancer calling cancer cancer

Have we gone full /v/?
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>>168932146
It's anything larger than a human or orc infantry soldier.
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>>168931562
That's what I am going for. And I can reduce the AI priority by giving it lower value or just not including the unit in the cdir thus locking the AI out of it altogether.

Here's how the Sylvanian archers will look. Think of them as cretan archers. Good against lightly armored foes but not so good against armor.

And the point of making a unit have a low recruitment and high maintainence cost would seem like a nice compromise and an effective way of a soft cap. Their niche becomes.

>oh shit, there's this enemy army here and I need bodies for my army ASAP.
then you disband them after the battle. That is what Stainless steel's model for high grade militia units. Generally free upkeep in cities but relatively high upkeep and low morale in the field compared to more professional troops.
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>>168932220
it says in-game that large is "anything larger than a horse"

I genuinely didn't realise it included cavalry though, I figured it just meant monstrous and shit
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15% off on Warhams DLC on bundlestars right now

>>168932146
mouse over anti large trait, everything horse sized and above is large, so yes cav are large.
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>>168932367
large is just codeword for cavalry.
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YES
JOIN THOSE OP ETHERAL ASSHOLES YOU HAD

Its legendary
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>>168932281
>>168932293
I never even knew that. And I love reading warhammer lore.

That is actually pretty sad.

It's we wuz kangz and shit but real.
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>>168932262
Lore of life AND Lore of beasts. Wyssan's wildform charge bonus on all these flying shock cav oh baby
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I have played dwarfs and crooked moon, who should I do a world domination with?
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>>168932634
wood elfs.
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>>168932495
The important part of Giant lore is that they are not necessarily malicious, just rather impressionable.
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>>168932297
Meant for
>>168931996
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>>168932634
>world domination
The only faction that can do world domination is the wood elves since everybody else can only conquer their own culture's settlements
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>>168931996
>people making mods for the game turn the general cancerous.

I guess all the 2700 people who are still subscribed to my mod are wrong and you are right. Adding more building options to the empire to specialize provinces does take away the game's challenge.
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>Grey Mountain Watch

Brets understand the need of keeping a close eye on Karak Norn.
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>>168932735
Imagine a giant with a brain-body ratio equal to a human

literal supercomputer tier
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>>168932281
Hmmm. So would it be lore friendly to give Border Princes a Giant, provided he was hardcapped to 1 for the entire faction?
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>>168932556
All bretonnian cavalry have great charge bonuses, even Questing knights.

>cheap armor piercing cav that has a decent charge bonus
I'm not even mad if they go in against elite cav as long as they pin them down. for my other cav. they'll still cut through anything they charge even if they're more suited for going after infantry.
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>>168933024
Middenheim is supposed to have one, he loads their big cannon.
So yes.
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Total War: Warhammer has really made me want to play the warhammer mod for M&B warband again now that i know more about the factions and their lore

really want to run a gobbo warband with some trolls and shit thrown in for kicks
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>>168932841
And ya still goin' on an' on an' on about y'ar subscribers. Only 2700? I though' it would be at least 5000 for ya never shuttin' y'ar faggot mouth.

Still, good t'know only a few people share y'ar shite taste. More people percentually started likin' Bieber than y'ar duckshite. And good to know ye such a stupid inbred egotistical retard y'ar still replyin' to what I'm writin' after I straight up admitted I was only postin' to rustle ya jimmies mate.

I always heard narcissistic cunts were inta deprecation, thanks for provin' that lil' theory for me mate
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>>168932260
nothing is worse than staring with fucking GOBLIN ARCHERS
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>>168932908
>bigger bobbins
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>>168933346
ok then pal. lets see your super duper special mod that has a similar scope and similar number of viewers.
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>>168933130
Maybe we can have that if we get a Dogs of War expansion
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>>168933415
it has to do with tailoring.
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>>168933519
I'm Radious.
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>>168932908
>Death Grips Decree
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>>168933602
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>>168933365
they could have bee night goblin archers or goblin wolf riders. and at least they'd be useful. but regular fucking goblin archers. what the fuck.
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>>168933246
It's shame that mod is such a clusterfuck.

>including Nippon
>Orcs and Goblins are separate factions
>Orcs always die early
>Beastmen occupy all of Estalia
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>>168902373
Super frustrating at times but I love it. Skarsnik is my favorite LL and playing any other campaign after Crooked Moon feels like easy mode. Get used to abusing the stalk mechanic and envelope the enemy as soon as possible.
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>>168933519
>Can't criticize a movie if I haven't made one
>Can't have an opinion on a game if I don't have a gaming company
>Can't say a mod is shit if I'm not willing to waste my time doing something I'm clearly not good at doing, like the mod author

I hate all of your mods but I was happy to remain polite and with my mouth shut until now. Holy hell dude, what kind of logic is that?

That dipshit you keep feeding is clearly trolling. What's your excuse?
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>>168932908
>green tide decree gives immunity to badlands attrition

OUTTA MY WAY GREENSKIN FUCKING SHITS
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>>168932908
>Pass the Safe woods decree
>declare war on the wood elves and beastmen simultaneous.

WOODS MUST BE SAFE.
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>>168933365
Whats wrong with gobbos?
Later on you start using spiders anyway.
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>>168933818
I just asked him an example. Look, I agree my ideas about unit design aren't the best, which is why I run them by you guys.
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So I think I just fucked up
>Take castle drakenhoff
>Army is bloodied to shit
>Accidentally click them outside of the city
>Vamp army that got beat during the siege is still around
>Immediately attacks and takes the city without a fight because apparently garrison didn't spawn
>The city now has a fully restored vamp garrison that I have to fight

Fuck this game.
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at least I tried
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>Men-at-arms literally just have swords. Don't even have a shield.
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>>168933415
>Wider Ploughs
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How often does the DLC go on sale?

I snatched the game for $12 from that humble bundle monthly thing, but no way in hell will I be paying 17 euros per faction, not to mention 8 euros for Warriors of Chaos.
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>>168933519
Y'ar a fine piece a' work, ain'tcha?

Haven't we danced this ballad about this before, lad? Are ya really willin' to have the same discussion with someone that clearly hates both ya and the retarded broken shite ya create? Don'tcha have literally anythin' better to do with y'ar life?

Why dont'cha go talk with them followers ya like s'much? Have a nice lil' group wank over how cool y'ar shit are? Ye ain't gettin' that here.


At best ya get anons like the ones before me politely tellin' ya y'ar mod is shite and tryin' to steer in out of shitesvile

At worst ya get me, that understands that y'ar a narcissistic cunt who takes pleasure in havin' people talk about him even if it's the worst and understands ya and ya shite mods are a lost cause.
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>>168934176
DLC didnt go on sale yet actually.
Lets hope it does once Isabella is out in a week (she is free)
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>>168934176
You don't want to buy warriors of chaos at all m8, they're shit.
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>>168934251
funny how I try and listen to people's ideas and try to work out a solution but you have to come and show off your prospector tier language and act smug like it acts as some form of valid criticism.
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>>168934415

I just don't like content being locked out of the game.
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>>168934462
At least you stopped namefagging.
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>>168933901
I've been in these past few threads. You didn't just "ask him for an example". This all began with the discussion of Bretonnian Gunpower, with plenty of anons, which you could tell were plenty by unique post counts at least, telling you how bad that idea was, and you sperging out. Then you started saying "Well do a better mod then!" not understanding that what people were saying is that nothing was better than what you were doing. Then someone brought your building mod (which to be honest I don't particularly dislike) into the mix and half a thread went to shit.

I didn't participate in that autistic shitshow and was glad for staying out of this one. But when to bring about stupid shit like that I get too
>triggered
to stay out. Why exactly should that stupid fucking troll, me or anyone who doesn't like what you do have to actually have done a mod to talk about it, hein? Am I not allowed to complain when I'm serving what I think is shit?
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>>168932634
Vampire cunts
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>>168934021
And whose going to pay for them shields, eh? The peasents? No way
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>>168934627
But in the end its a mod. So who fucking cares. don't download it.

I don't like the ideas of the two mods for whatever reasons. but most people don't like vanilla but yet other than graphic mods i usually just play vanilla anyways (though eagerly looking forward to custom sieges)
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>>168934627
I stopped that after I was eventually convinced. Hey, I get it. Bretonnia doesn't require gunpowder units because 4th edition might as well be a different universe.

I will admit I was a bit touchy about my unit because it was the first unit I actually created with the VMD editor and wanted to show it off to you guys and I thought that the idea was solid enough in older fluff to not bring the radious comparisons. I get it, I was wrong.
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>>168934887
Played enough GCs.

Think I am ready for big boy difficulties so I am playing as Angrund on Hard.

What am I in for?
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>>168934462
Listen, tankbust lad. Matie. I'm half serious nah. Dont'cha have anythin' better to do than listen to a prospector tellin' ya how shite y'ar mods are? Ya really want me to start providin' valid criticisms?
'Cuz the only reason I'm doin' this mate is because when people started doin' dat, ya lost y'ar jimmies. Ya can't be reasoned and can't understand or admit when y'ar idea is just straight bad and doesn't belon' around. So if I can't talk t'ya as a normal human bein', I reckon I can at least try to lower m'self to y'ar level.

'Cuz to be honest, mate, t'me, with y'ar duckshite ideas and duckshite balance, with y'ar arrogant attitude and stick-up-the-ass unpleasanteness, sound as downright retarded to me as I
>VERY INTENTIONALLY
am soundin' t'ya right now
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>>168934021
When a knight of bretonnia provides your shield, its actually a euphemism that means that the Knight is your literal shield. but knowing knights and tactics. that means those peasants will be butchered while holding the trolls etc in place so that knights can swoop in to make a heroic looking save the day at the last moment charge.
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>>168934887
idk why I responded to you.

Srry.
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>>168934996
An endless tide of goblins.
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So I just finished the Threehuggers mini campaign and obtain some nice shit, it was my first campaign completed. Do I get stuff for completing each one? What do the others have?
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>>168935156
Just pay off the wood elves to attack Skarsnik
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>>168935232
Yep. For the main you get a greater daemon of Tzeetch and for Beastmemes a unqiue elector count. Only for multiplayer and custom game though.
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>decrees let you dodge suffering attrition
>out of all the factions in the fucking game, a few knightly orders and peasant faggots are somehow master trackers and survivalists who can survive in any region no problem with the simple passing of a decree
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Are you only allowed to have 9 military alliances at once in the WE mini campaign? Or is it just not an option with a faction you're been at war with before? I'm one away from getting the achievement for 10 but I think I'm already allied with the only people left on the map that I can be
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>>168934996
You'll have one small army.

your agents are invincible on the campaign map, and can fight in battles. but you have to be careful though since they can die in battles and lots of heroes and some units do magic damage (especially wood elves) so whether you use them as invincible agents or as very tough heroes in battle (keeping them safe of course) you'll still probably only have one army until you take Karak eight peaks. So you might be doing a lot of running around in order to keep your holds safe enough until you can feel confident that you can make the journey to reclaim your holds.
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>>168933785
i know, but no other game quite fills the same niche as Warband, and it's perfect for the kind of setting that warhammer has

>tfw skellington pirate captain leading your band of skelly pirates on raids against araby fucking shits
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>>168935415
>Using sissy elves to fight your battles.
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>>168935232
beastmen mini-campaign gets you the Todbringer
tree hippies gets you the red duke
grand campaign gets you sarthorael
multiplayer only but you can still confederate with Tod and Red Duke in a campaign and gain access to them
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>>168935415
>Playing angrund
>not immediately breaking any pacts you have with fucking elf shits.

the worst part about TWWH desu
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>allied with Stirland
>we both eventually beat Vampire Counts
>I'm finishing off the last Count
>Stirland, who has done nothing but make trash armies and get them all killed, decides to declare war on the largest Dwarves faction on the map
>Neither of us have the military strength to just go to war again like that.

Why are the AI so fucking braindead retarded
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>>168932976

There's a point of diminishing returns my man. Human brains are sized the way they are pretty much because of efficiency/size ratio.

Ever seen how clumsy really huge people are?
Seen how quick small people are?

I am pulling this straight out of my ass, I've no idea what I'm talking about BRAISE SIGMAR XDD
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>>168932813
>everybody else can only conquer their own culture's settlements
what?
dwarfs can cap orc settlements just fine
>>
i see a lot of people recommend free company militia as a unit for empire but i've found it to be completely underwhelming and shit at everything
they have fuckall firing range so they can't get any meaningful volleys off before getting charged and murdered because of shitty melee stats
their missile damage is pretty fucking low and does almost nothing against armor, meaning flanking with them is shit as they wont deal any damage
their morale drops really fast once they are engaged in melee too, so they can't hold the line for shit

what am i missing, this unit seems useless as fuck
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>>168935507
>Not killing two birds with one stone
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>>168935757
Not killing one stone with two birds.
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>Warhammer's map is about the same size as AoC

Why is this allowed
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Empire touch-up when? I'm mostly talking about mechanics, although some stat shuffling would be nice too.
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So considering the sale on bundlestars should I buy Chaos is I already have Beastmen? I heard they are pretty similar, but in what do they differ?
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>>168920690
I'm running
5 night gobbo fanatics
3 night gobbo archers
3 arty
4 nasty
4 squig hoppers
1 shammy

Drop leadership buffs and hope you hold out long enough to surround them.
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>>168935609
Nah, Stirland know that dwarfs are uppity cunts who'll declare war on you without warning. They're just trying to get the first punch in.
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>>168934983
Alright. Like I said, I think both sides were acting stupid, but you at least have the strength of mind to admit it, more than the trolls ever will.

The Radious comparison isn't just about fluff, you have to understand. It's much more strongly about Faction Homogenization. Each faction has an unique playstyle and the slightest change can affect that.

That's why most people don't sperg out about things like that Dismounted Reiksguard mod or the Holy Light Paladins, but don't like very much when shit like Undead Artillery like pic related get brought into the table. It gives massive strengths to a faction that wasn't designed with those strengths in mind.


Which is why I don't appreciate very much the Sylvannia additions, but I like some of the suggestions anons gave you - recruiting from settlements, hardcapping to avoid economic rush + exploit, no crossbows and stuff like that. I'm not the type to sperg out about it, but I'll probably won't subscribe unless a few hundred people do it first and tell it's balanced.
Subscribers alone mean nothing. Thousands have Ironsiders: Men of the Empire on their mod list. Have you tried that thing? IT'S OP AS FUCK. The basic Ironside Infantry can compete with all elite units from all factions and kill monster units faster than heroes yet cost only 200 more than swordsmen. Yet it's a loved mod. To give you credit your mods aren't NEARLY as broken as that, but do you understand what people mean when they scoff subscribe counts now?

Listen, I don't wanna give you shit. From the technical side this Sylvania thing looks very good, already better than Cataph's, which I used for a while. I might even download it when it gets done. But for the love of god, be more humble and ignore the trolls like the "prospector" «««mate»»». See anyone else replying to him? In fact, see how people stopped giving you actually good suggestions when you started a dick war with a guy who admitted only wanted to piss you off?
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>>168935818
Because it's going to get at least twice as big
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>>168935818
it's clearly larger.
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>>168935738
good for early game flanking, and absolutely broken in autoresolve
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didn't get to post this last night when your man was dumping comic leafs

what a trove of reaction images
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>>168935738
They're great when the enemy's ranged units are incapacitated or busy. Of course, their utility declines once you reach the mid and late game stages. But they're effectively swordsmen with guns.
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>>168935915
I really wish the fucking bret trailer would drop so we could have something to talk about.
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>>168935883
But literally neither of us are ready for another war.

I wager the Elves are at fault for this.
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>>168935505
>that pic
what the fuck
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>>168936393
>he doesnt know about dickplomacy
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>>168936393
chinese warband prostituion roleplay mods, never again
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>>168925648
It is illegal to threaten to kill someone in America. It is illegal in pretty much any other country with free speech as well.
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>>168935686
i know, i couldn't be fucked typing out the specifics of each faction but the point remains

dorfs get dorf and greenskin settlements
greenskins get greenskin and dorf settlements

empire gets human and undead settlements
undead gets undead and human settlements

wood elves get everything
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>>168935818
Nah its bigger
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>>168935738
Treat the Free Militia Company as Skirmishers from Rome II.

The absolutely OBLITERATE enemies from the side and rears, are light and fast enough to move around unlike Handgunners - who can be easily hunted down by cav or kept busy by light armored infantry if they don't have the high ground - and are actually decent melee fighters if they aren't charged (as all light units tend to do).

They require a lot of micro compared to other ranged units doe. Don't put them on the frontlines also. If they're your only non-arty ranged, put them on the sides, your army should be big enough for both sides clashing without leaving free troops to chase the militians - that way you can get some free shots from the side and move them to the rear.
If you got xbows then use them to protect the bows alongside a base melee support unit. Once you see the bows are safe, move them to the rears and fire at will.

Their biggest use is multiplayer. Cheap and effective despite micro heaviness. if you're good you can clear funds for better line holders, "hammers" or arty.
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>>168936393
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>saved resources for double WAAAAGH
>Orion just walked past me to invade border provinces
What a nice forest shame if something happened to it
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>>168935872
Someone?
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>>168935915
>>168934983
Forgot pic
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>>168936756
what the fuck is this some radious bullshit?
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>>168936736

Don't buy chaos, campaign is trash
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>>168935738
Free Militia = Royal Peltasts = Excalcutores

Do with that info as you will
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>>168935738
You want to put them in skirmish and flank around the side.

Aim for things with no armor or shields and charge into melee against their ranged units or into the back of melee when you're out of ammunition or to break them.

They're versatile but not a master in any role.

Also they shouldn't be on the front line thats not their roll that's where your swordsmen go.

Flank with them that's what their vanguard deployment is for hiding in terrain on the flanks of your forces.

they're an infantry hammer that has a couple roles. I'm playing empire legendary and I have a couple of them in my army on turn 13 that i recruited on the first turn. They're my most elite infantry at rank 4 silver chevrons. better than any of my other units.
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>>168936882
Cant be worse than DoW2 Chaos Rising snorefest with Starscream as Eliphas impersonator.
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>>168936736
Chaos is good for multiplayer/custom battles they have nice roster
Campaign is very meh and need a rework
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>>168936852
Nah, it's some retard on the workshop.

He also created Undead Cannon and some other shit.

Still, it's not

>Rune Golem


What you're looking at here is a Dwarf Monstrous unit, faster than a Slayer and with the size, unit number and strength of a Minotaur unit.

Have I mentioned they don't have a Dwarf controlling them and are completely autonomous?
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>>168937180
I am unironically fine with this.

Not something i'd want. but its a neat mod. If some dwarf fucker wants to have mecha dwarfs in their campaign, who cares.

I personally won't take it because I find a lot of custom units tend to be really powerful. And I don't like feeling cheep using them.
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>>168937180
>>168936852
>>168936756

Have I mentioned their brothers, the Rune Golem Hurler, in Cygor size and function, only nine of them per unit?
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>>168936393
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>>168935915
the difference between my mods and lets say a mod like the nuln ironsides is that it is very easy to be attracted to a mod that adds a cool looking unit to the game. It's visual, it's innate to the game and it doesn't require much thinking to install and have a go.My buildings mod added a bunch of boring buildings to the campaign map that you can't see or interact with other than some clicking during the campaign. A thing like that never grab eyeballs like your nuln ironside example will.

I am proud of that mod because despite being a campaign only mod that was relatively light and didn't require too many assets, It managed to reach the front page for half a week, I had plenty of people thanking me for making the empire's campaign a little bit more fun to play and adding quite a lot of replay value to the game that they were missing, It's still the most subscribed building addon on the workshop.

Yes I agree I was unreasonable in sperging out and could have done with a smoke instead of taking things to personally, but you have to understand, I put a lot of effort into that mod. I spent hours recoloring those icons so that they wouldn't look too out of place in the games. I learned a lot more about how the game works and hopefully will be able to add more sophisticated ideas and mechanics to any mods that I can make in the future. When someone shits all over that it does make me resentful.

thanks for listening.
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>>168937180
>>168937341
>>168937491
Dwarf statues coming to life and attacking people is canon according to old, old editions. Its not too far-fetched a concept but I can't vouch for how they're represented in the mod.
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>>168932281
How did Ogres eat the giants? I thought giants were bigger and stronger.
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>>168937679
it would look much better if he would reskin them to be a monochromatic stone color, but it's kinda hard to do if you are a noob.
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>>168937775
sky titans were solitary creatures. it's like ants and cockroaches.
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>>168914927

Foot of Gork should auto kill pretty much any infantry it hits. What are you using it on?
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>>168937556
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>>168937892
spells do more damage to large units.
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>>168937798
To me it makes sense that they're a mix of runes and engineering. The very rare product of when two dwarf masters actually work together to make a thing.
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>>168937652
No problem. You're interesting to listen when you're in "actual person" mode. You just give an arrogant streak when you're defensive.

Listen, it's fine. You don't have to pay me or anyone else your time. Mod for what you think it's best and listen to who you think it's best. Just don't come to 4chan, even a somewhat friendly board like /vg/, and not expect trolls. You're setting yourself for frustration.

For point of reference, I wasn't speaking about the nuln ironsiders from Elite Regiments of Nuln. I was mentioning Ironsiders: Men of the Empire. Adds Ironside Infantry and Ironside Veterans. If you wanna have fun download the mod and make custom battles using those only those fuckers. You'll see what truly broken is
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>>168924025
Are you Kiwi, Bong or Jew m80?
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Shiet I really like Beastmen, they are my favourite faction, but I hate their campaign. I usually like a safe approach, turtling in my settlements. I can't make a decent army with the furries, they drain too much gold
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>>168938098
there's half a dozen ironsides mods on the workshop.
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>>168937652
To be honest, I think CA kinda shat the bed by removing both food and squalor from the game. Fair enough removing one, but both? That's why the current vanilla construction just seems so shit. In my only campaign (as the dorfs) I just got bored of developing non-provincial capitals because other than growth + defence there wasn't really anything to bother with other than the designated money building.

At least in Attila you had to worry about keeping a province fed and sanitised so you always had to dedicate a slot somewhere to sanitation and usually required at least one agriculture building in each of the province's villages.
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>>168937798
>>168937679
He did manage to modify the Irondrake model and give it glowing eyes, gotta give him points for that.


On the other hand, that guy also made Trollhamer and Armoured Slayers, so fuck him
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>>168914927
its a weird result of the way the knockback mechanics for spells work. Lighter units get thrown back farther instead of actually taking damage, while heavy units don't get knocked around but end up taking more damage. A simple way to test this out is to go into custom battle and try out wind of death on light units like gobbos or skirmishers vs heavier units. For this reason spells like banishment and purple sun will absolutely roflstomp factions like dwarfs or chaos, but underperform vs units like cairn wraiths who should be obliterated by the magic damage but instead get tossed around and survive
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It's the literal name - Ironsiders: Men of the Empire

here

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=713923564

Enjoy it in all its busted, broken, retarded glory
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>lose all of my allies in one turn because they all wanted me to declare war on essentially the entire map
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>>168936118

BY SIGMAR, NO!
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>>168938364
>Armoured Slayers
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>>168938517
>>168938283
Forgot to link
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>>168938357
yeah, that is true. I tried to balance that by making larger imperial cities create some amount of chaos corruption because
>it's fluffy
>forces you to divert heroes if you want to play tall.

If I knew .lua scripting maybe I could add some sort of manpower mechanic to the game like DEI did. Litharion added a waaagh resource based on amber which was interesting.

Also amber is literally called food in the effects_table.
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>>168937652
>the difference between my mods and lets say a mod like the nuln ironsides is that it is very easy to be attracted to a mod that adds a cool looking unit to the game

That's so true. I still remember the Titanium Wars mode for Dawn of War, it addes so much shit it's unbelievable, just the Grey Knights were cool as fuck, let's not talk about the specific Chaos warriors and gods.
I still hope for something similar in TTL Warham
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>>168938357
Removing food and squalor was the best design decision CA have made in three years.
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Had a friend complain about the unit variety in Warhammer and how it was more boring than Attila. How could that possibly be?
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>>168937873
Damn. I didn't know giants wuz sky kangz an shit. I'll try to get less of them killed now. Warhammer might be over the top with the grimdark, but I like that the lore is interesting and fun to get in to. I didn't know much about it until the Total War game.
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How do I catch Carstein? I have Grom waiting with an army but Mannfred just runs away and I'm not chasing him into vampire corrupted territory.

This grudge is fucking me up and I can't get rid of it.
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>>168938876
hey don't get me wrong, Food and squalor might not have a place in warhammer but their removal made the empire feel like piece of cardboard with their linear building tree.

See that bretonnian techtree which looks more advanced in comparison even though it's basic as fuck by any TW standards? that's my problem with the empire.
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>>168938876
>t. shitter
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>>168939013
wh, they are just retards, kinda like trailer trash.
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>>168939065
ambush stance
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>>168939065
you use the underway.
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>>168939065
get a master engineer to block his army, or convince some manlings to go wipe him out for you. It should abort the grudge for you
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Jesus the original Rome:Total war is so fucking comfy
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>>168939065
kill the vampire faction.
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>>168939065
Raze all his shit. If he's constantly fleeing with his army, that's in your favour since said army isn't defending the settlements.
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>>168902373
>he doesn't know you can pirate the dlcs
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>>168939013
>Warhammer might be over the top with the grimdark
You think Warhammer Fantasy is bad, wait til you read about 40K
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>>168939065
Doesn't look like anyone currently owns Zhufbar, maybe settle that grudge first?
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>>168939534
Wut? Can you do it even with the Steam copy? I already bought two DLCS though
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>>168939651
nah
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>>168939651
creamAPI warhammer.
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>>168939065
Hint: Raiding stops Corruption attrition

Double Hint: He can't run when all his settlements are burned dirt
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>>168939065
>those borders
>ever being at war with fellow dawi when there are greenskins still breathing
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>>168939603
I want to beat Mannfred first. I can capture Zhufbar but colonising it will leave Grombrindal's army weak and the vampire counts will attack it then. They've done it twice now.

>>168939409
>>168939317
I need to reduce corruption first. I've got 3 agents trying to do that now though.

>>168939263
I'll try setting a war target. Annoyingly they're only at war with me and another dwarf faction. Not even at war with Empire or Chaos.

>>168939967
Fuck. All this time and I didn't realise.

>>168940068
I'm allied with most dwarves. Greenskins are dead apart from random Savage tribes appearing. I'm just can't help but take a settlement when it's abandoned or weak.
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>>168940190
>I need to reduce corruption first
no you don't, just conquer the settlement and raze it you utter wasteman
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>>168940190
anon. you use tunnel stance and walk up to his settlements and then raze it.
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>>168939559
To be fair, 40k hasn't been nuked in the ultimate grimdark storm. Not yet, at least.
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>>168938140
>he can't tell from the Otto von Feelmarck
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Kislev mini dlc fucking when?
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>>168932281
Are there giantess?
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>>168940190
You've got a lot of money, just use another lord and trash army to colonize and have Grombrindal defend
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>>168941236
tomorrow
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EJB4Q-PJNGP-58NHW
E2PX4-TTA7H-VHEJR
DJAJ3-FPLC4-22G78

blood packs for anyone who want them (even if im sure everybody in the world have them)
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>>168941990
>implying anyone with a shred of sense would willingly pay for blood DLC
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Well that was a fucking waste
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>>168941990

Neat, I got the Shogun 2 blood DLC. It's the only one I didn't have yet.

Thanks much.
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>page 9
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>used one of the Attila: Blood and Burning keys posted ITT
>mfw I got my own key emailed to me
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>>168940759
In all honesty, The End Times had many opportunities for Chaos to lose if GW was taken out of the picture. Also, one complaint about AoS is that it's too noblebright (despite having things like institutionalized cannibalism) so life kinda got better afterwards.
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>>168943008
might as well just give it away in the next thread, that's what I did
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>>168902006
This is indisputably accurate. You literally cannot debate pic related
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>>168943506
It's true, but I will never ascend to bog hammer because I love warhammer too much. Am I just incomplete? Am I mistake?
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>>168943598
>>168943598
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>>168925904
>>168926016
I would like more tales of DAVE
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