/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #475

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BFFs, Pirates, Partners in Time & Crime & In Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

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Max is #1

I just noticed the archive updated. Cool.
Good work to those who did it!

>>168663412
She sure is! And she deserves nothing but happiness with Chloe.

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At the end of her adventure Alice is forced to make a binary choice: live in a world where bunnies eat no carrots or Lisa dies after Max and Warren fuck on top of her then Frank spills beans on her leaves when he gets a turn while Chloe's tears salinate the soil, destroying her chances of regermination.

>>168663717
Fuck off.
We don't need the thread filled from start to finish with shitposting.

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>>168663717
No, you fucking shithead troll. Quit ruining the comfy and go shit in your own bed.

The ending is like this:


> Chloe and Max don't return to Arcadia Bay when Blackwell re-opens, but stay in Portland.
> Kate Marsh contacts Max when she doesn't come back.
> "I'm with my girlfriend in Portland."
> Kate spurns the "devil worshiping hedonists."
> Without high school degrees, they don't find jobs.
> They end up living in Chloe's truck.
> After a few stints in prison, they seek help from their parents.
> Max's parents, mad at her for wasting their money by ditching private school, won't let her stay with Chloe and bring her back to Seattle
> Max's parents blame Chloe for Max's bad behavior and prevent her from contacting Chloe
> Chloe is abandoned once again.
> Joyce, a conservative southern woman, and David, a traditional Republican, send Chloe to conversion therapy in return for paying her debts.
> Kate suggests a clinic run by her church.
> Chloe is raped by multiple male orderlies each day to ungay her.
> Max wakes up.
> "Wowsers. What a horrible dream. Good thing I sacrificed that blue haired dyke to save the town."
> Goes down the hall to suck Warren's morning wood.

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>>168663717
>>168663879
BEGONE!!!

>>168663610
>those who did it!

I heard it was one person.

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>>168664132
He did it with his imagination.

>>168664024
That wasn't cuddly either. How does Alice eat an entire human being inside the cage? Are their limbs pushed between the wires or are they lowered in like the cow in Jurassic Park?

Or is Kate Marsh feeding her chunks of human beings? What kind of church does she belong to?

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>>168663059
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

>>168664132
I knew it was one person in the past but I remember them saying they were looking for help or possibly considering handing it off. Not sure how often people check or use the archive but it's neat to have.
To be able to go back and relive some moments. If S2 is even half the ride S1 is then it will still be a wild one.

>>168663879
>>168663717
DELETE THIS

>>168663059
>http://orph.link/lisgarchive
>/lisg/ will have only 997 threads

aw shit

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>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

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>friendly reminder that turning off your game is the confirmed canon ending

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>half a dozen guys somewhere in France are drawing Season Two concept arts RIGHT NOW

>>168664819
>https://instaud.io/kVV
Gives me the feels listening to it. I go from laughing at the beginning to tearing up thinking about Chloe.

>>168664819
>>168663717
Combine them. Someone combine them, please.

>>168664731
Pretty sure that number an be expanded. Still a long ways off too so we can worry about it if and when we get there.

>>168665067
Hopefully we start seeing some concept stuff fairly soon. I know the focus is on Vampyr right now but after that it's probably gonna be shifted back to LiS.
Some time in October the game will be patched to fix the ending, take away the binary choice, and set up for S2's story

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Wish there was more art of older Pricefield. The wedding stuff from last thread was fantastic.

Max and Chloe are dorks. One time, they went on a date and stopped at Build A Bear to make bears that looked like each other.
So they have something to cuddle with if they're apart for a few nights.
Times where Max is out for photoshoots or contests or when Chloe is doing her own business.

Gonna be slow tonight. Guess everyone is out with friends.

W-Wake up /lisg/!

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>[Chloe lightly snoring and Max mumbling about the dream she's having (It involves her and Chloe sailing a calm sea and finding treasure)]
Goodnight, /lisg/. Stay cute and comfy.

>>168674156
Sure seems like people were bored during school so shitposting erupted

>>168675342
Maybe those who were doing it got banned or something. Or it was just one dedicated person changing their name over and over. Either way it shouldn't be allowed to rule the thread. Just ignore it or report it when it breaks rules.

I bought this game on sale months ago and just got around to finishing it. Boy it was way better than I thought it would be. Depressing as shit too. I liked Kate far more than any of the other characters desu.

>>168677813
What ending did you pick

>>168677919
Sacrifice Chloe, and after seeing the other shitty ending I have no regrets about it

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>>168663059

>>168672212
>Guess everyone is out with friends.

Relax, there are no normies here.

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>>168678284
>Sacrifice Chloe

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>>168665067
I doubt they're working on a Saturday, anon.

>>168632498
>My point was that he wouldn't catch her in the Dark Room because he didn't expect her to make it that far.
Pretty sure your point was he could have placed the Victoria folder as a trap for Max. Which is so absurd that double moons are more realistic a scenario.

And I repeat: Jefferson says he found out about Max from the video footage from the Dark Room. If he had only a sliver of a suspicion that she was onto him, he would have tried to get to her way sooner.

I will dismiss your theory and call it absurd, and your "facts" don't even start to paint a coherent picture. How does the bathroom incident connect Max to a CSI investigation on the Dark Room stuff that has them break into the school, Nathan's dorm, David's files, get Frank's client list? How would Jefferson think it does? For all we know, he didn't even know Nathan had drugged Chloe. This is all a giant, gigantic stretch that has no base in the game whatsoever, and if he really thought this teenage girl was suddenly investigating him more thoroughly than the FBI apparwently did and breaking open sources like that, he would have intercepted her way way way earlier at any of those points, and not rely on getting lucky that she goes from the Dark Room back to the junkyard and falls for the most obvious trap in the history of traps. Not least because we know ultimately she does not go there and busts him instead.

Nothing of what you say there follows. What are these connections between these people? David, Wells, Jefferson? The police covering up the bunker? You do know they bust it wide open in the game, right? How does anything go together? You are lining up half-truths as if they had any bearing on each other.

I really cannot grasp your mind. Even your constant shitposting makes more sense than that theory.

Thread's ded right now, might as well get into it:

>>168632498
>saw Max leaving the bathroom not long after Chloe and Nathan
They did not see Nathan or Chloe leave the bathroom. If David saw Chloe on school premises coming out of a room a fire alarm had just been triggered from, he would have spent the next couple hours giving her shit. If Wells saw Nathan leave the girls' bathrooms shortly after a girl came running out, he wouldn't have dismissed Max.

>Wells is connected to Jefferson
The former is the Principal and the latter the teacher, sure. That's their connection.

>David Madsen has a connection to Nathan
But we know he has nothing to do with the Dark Room stuff.

>He knows Chloe has been hanging around the junkyard, where Rachel is buried.
David does not know Rachel is buried there.

>Madsen keeps an eye on Chloe
She's actually the only person he has no data on, if I remember correctly. And of course he keeps an eye on her, because he suspects something is going on and he wants her safe. Does not mean he reports this to anyone, why would he.

>He notices something weird is happening to Max in Episode Two before the suicide attempt
Hm?

>a conversation that implies an inappropriate relationship between himself and a student
Ah, there's that Kate and Jefferson had an affair nonsense again. You do realize that conversation was had at the entrance of a full classroom, in the middle of a school corridor? It's really not significant that Max could have heard it, and your idea that it suggests an affair between the two is so unfounded I don't know what to tell you. Maybe this will kind of get to you: if he really did think that conversation was so damning for him that Max listening in on it would lead him to believe he has to get rid of her, he would have not only not had that conversation right in the middle of a crowded school, but surely, he would have changed the conversation to be less damning when he noticed someone was listening.

>>168692195
>He bumps into Max and Chloe before they steal Nathan's phone
He bumps into Max in the dorm yard where she lives. He had no suspicion that they are going to break into Nathan's dorm because they are now detectives a few steps away from finding out about the Dark Room. And even if we abandon all reason and assume he did, he'd have prevented them and not wait idly for them to bust him, and only then set a ridiculous trap that they ultimately not fall into. If he was such a mastermind that one or two little unconnected clues lead him to believe a teenage girl is successfully investigating his operation that has held through years and apparently FBI scrutiny, he would surely be mastermind enough not to wait until she has all evidence and rely on her not going to the police but into an obvious trap.

>Unlikely given that he sees him as a father figure
Nathan would definitely not tell Jefferson he fucked up so hard that another person he drugged woke up and is putting pressure on him, let alone that they were onto him if he did suspect that. He has been trying to get on Mark's good side ever since the Rachel incident, revealing to him that he fucked up again is the last thing he'd think to do.

>Wells and Madsen would have to neglect to mention
Jefferson can know about the gun accusation, but I can't see how this would lead him to suspect Max is going Sherlock on his ass now.

It's reasonable to assume he was increasedly concerned about Nathan's shenanigans if he does find out about the gun. That's it. That's all he has, and in some playthroughs not even that. Well, and the Kate thing if Max accuses Nathan in the Principal's office. He says something's been weird about Max that week. That's it. And if anything, since Max does suspect Nathan until the very end, if anything that would play into Jefferson's hands and plans, and not lead him to want to silence her. On the contrary, he would then look to help her investigation and encourage her to go after Nathan.

>>168692497
There's really no hint of a reason to believe Jefferson knew Max was investigating him, let alone onto him, and even if we do go crazy like that, and even go as far as assuming conspiratorial backgrounds like you do, he would have eliminated Max earlier, easier - or better yet, helped her investigation along and manipulated it to scapegoat Nathan as was his "masterplan". I don't even find an end to the reasons I could go into why this whole "theory" doesn't work out by any stretch. And again, there's outright confirmation in the game that he didn't suspect her when he says the Dark Room video surveillance is what he found out about her with.

And the idea of Victoria's folder as a trap is only even more absurdly absurd.

>>168692705
That all said, I do appreciate the sense for conspiracy, and it is possible dontnod did originally have more of a background set along those lines for it all. David, Wells, Jefferson, Nathan, the Prescotts - it is possible (and we have some spotty indication from cut content and so on) that there was more of a collusive connection here, that the Dark Room was more than the crazed obsession of a lone sociopath and his mentally unstable quasi-son. But it's just not in the game, and completely unreasonable to project into it.

Wells is a benign alcoholic principal that gobbles Prescott money and makes bad management decisions that will lose him his job. David is a PTSD-suffering, kind of stupid, kind of childish, kind of abusive step-father genuinely concerned about his daughter and students and he ends up busting Jefferson and the Dark Room. The police is not on any payroll, there's one cop we know keeps more of an eye on Nathan to keep him out of trouble, as a personal favour. Jefferson is a lone obsessed man, Nathan is his mentally unstable quasi-son, the Prescotts are not all-powerful, and while we have too little to say much about their involvement, as it stands, we have to assume Sean was just a criminally convenient plot device to justify all the ridiculousness of Mark and Nathan's shenanigans with, such as having those parties happen, giving Nathan an easy mil for a hobby bunker (or it was a money-laundering scheme at best), but not someone that had invested involvement with any of it. Why would he. I mean, sure, perhaps he liked the photos. That's already pure speculation.

>>168693385
>Jefferson is a lone obsessed man
*criminally retarded lone, pathetically obsessed man

>Nathan is his mentally unstable quasi-son
*mentally unstable edgy kid of a quasi-son

Not gonna let them off easier when I point to unfavourable personality traits of the other characters.

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Friendly reminder Marshfield is 100% canon.

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>>168663059
Good OP

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>>168694836
Friendly reminder Pricefield is ∞% canon.

>>168696119
>Chloe's VA is shorter than Max's VA

really makes you think

>>168680684
Looking good and healthy, Lisa!

>>168678284
Prepare to get told why you made the wrong choice, betraying Max, and why such a choice would save no one.

The Bay Ending is like a tattoo you get when drunk. An idea you suddenly think is good and go through with.
But then it's clumsily done and looks retarded, it sticks with you forever and then you have to try to justify it whenever someone asks about it.

>>168698574
>2017
>Still bothering with Bayfags

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Going out for the day. Have fun /lisg/!
Pricefield Cuteposting

>>168699491
Funny, because you fail to see that you are bothering with a Bayfag right there.

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>>168699712
Have fun outside anon.

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>>168690219
>>168692195
>>168692497
>>168692705
>>168693385
>Which is so absurd that double moons are more realistic a scenario.
Since you started off on that note, it's safe to assume as usual that you're not taking my arguments in good faith. I'm not debating with a haughty, narcissist who misconstrues my points on a regular basis and acts like he's above discussion.

You've said you're here to have your points affirmed. If that's the case, go talk to a therapist. Please make good on your promise to not respond to my posts in the future.

>>168699143
Ha. That's kind of what I thought after my first play through. I woke up the next morning and all the evidence against the Bay theory rushed through my head. Still, that was mostly because I was upset that Chloe had died. It was more tragic than most films I've watched because video games grant a greater level of intimacy. Instead of watching characters play out the plot on screen, I made choices, had conversations with and solved a mystery with Chloe. The connection was much greater than to a well acted character in a film.

Ironically I used to dress like her when I was in a punk band. I'm starting to again since I bought some fan shirts.

>>168699738
Shit. I'm not alone on here.

>pic

>>168699919
>I'm not debating
Indeed. You like to accuse me of not discussing things, but it's always you that makes outrageous claims and fails to back them up or address any of the arguments I make against them, i. e. it is you that does not discuss anything.

You said it's possible the Victoria folder could have been a trap Jefferson put there for Max. I politely pointed out in one sentence that I "really don't think so", when I could have thrown into your face how utterly retarded that idea is. We were talking more cordially about the game, so I just left it at that. And then you replied with your "I don't know, here, take a look at this completely ungrounded and incohrent mess of a 'theory' that even if we did accept, would still not make that folder trap more reasonable" - if anything, it would make it even less so.

If you believe it was a trap and Jefferson knew about Max's investigation and suspected it to be more thorough than that of the FBI, go right ahead. Doesn't make me a narcissist to point out false things said about a game in a thread for said game. Nor did I misconstrue anything that would be relevant to that argument. You said Victoria's folder could have been a trap. I disagreed, you insisted, switching then into "Oh, but he didn't suspect her to ever get to the Dark Room, but he did know she was investigating him - how could he not! I mean, he says he didn't and his entire behaviour only makes sense if he didn't, but he totally knew, half of Arcadia did and covered the Dark Room up, it's all connected!". There's nothing to misunderstand or misportray about it. It's just utterly absurd.

I will look to keep that promise. Next time you say something ridiculous like implying Jefferson and Kate are a couple, I hope someone else will care to point out how insane you are. As you might have noticed though, hardly anybody else here cares. For better or (really) worse.

>>168699919
>>168701929
I will say that there could have at some point been the idea for dontnod that Jefferson was trying to manipulate Max and Chloe into thinking Nathan is the sole cuplrit, leading them to the party with the Victoria folder in the hope that they end up killing him. But that's not in the game, and even as speculation as to any of dontnod's potential intentions, would require tons and tons of rewriting to make any sense, and would then still not be reasonable. It would still be a´n unbelievably enourmous gamble just like in the game, because they could have just gone to the police with it all, as they ultimately did.

>As you might have noticed though, hardly anybody else here cares. For better or (really) worse.

Some of us do care. The issue is that there is kind of like a threshold of absurdity that once one's claims cross, they get piled together with the run of the mill shitstirring that happens here, and as such are not worthy of getting any response or time invested for one.

Jefferson and Kate as a couple is so beyond that threshold, it almost makes the usual shitstirring look like reasonable, sophisticated arguments.

>>168701929
>>168702886
quoting is hard

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>>168702886
I get that, but with that claim in particular, I would have at least expected some of our Katefriends to throw some insults his way.

>>168699919
>Shit. I'm not alone on here.
Apparently not. >>168698574 appears to be a kind of Bayfag, so if that's not you, you have at least one partner in crime here.

What should the super power of the season 2 main character be?

>>168710396
Same as before.

>>168710396
>>168711729
Agreed. Time Travel.

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>>168714038
I really want Max and Rachel and Jefferson versions of these.

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>>168714835
Of course there is a Max!

No.

>>168711729
>>168711832
Or maybe not...
I remember watching the interview with Michel in December last year and he said they were trying ''new things''

>>168714835
>Jefferson
delet

>>168715327
Maybe he was talking about new binary tragedy options.

>>168717081
No more forced tragedies now.
They have a bigger budget this time.

How many people did Jefferson either directly or indirectly kill? How did he expect to keep getting away with it?!?!

>>168717415
What if Vampyr flops and they have to rush out season 2 to stay afloat?

>>168701929
>it's always you that makes outrageous claims and fails to back them up or address any of the arguments I make against them,
Nope. I've done so plenty of times, but you put more effort into twisting them to mean other things than taking them in the spirit with which they were said. I'm not debating with someone who resorts to cheap tactics and name calling straight away. You're self-absorbed and only interested in being patted on the back for your great thinking at best. At worst you're avoiding discussion after leaving an essay in an attempt to have the last word.

>Next time you say something ridiculous like implying Jefferson and Kate are a couple
I'm looking for a transcript of their conversation before Max approaches them. It's clear that they have more than a teacher-student relationship. Considering she was taken to the Dark Room, it's far from absurd.

>For better or (really) worse.
Jesus. Are you really that self-important to think these things matter that much?

>>168710396
Given the backlash against Dontnod sticking with a time travel ending, they could go two ways: something completely different or more time travel to prove to fans of the first season that they're not total screw ups.

>>168711596
Very nicely done.

>>168719536
They'll release information about LiS Season 2 around the time that Vampyr comes out to garner interest in the game.

>>168710396
What if they give the main character the power to turn into a spirit animal?

I think Ashley and Hannah are actually in love.

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>>168722814
They're >pic related.

>>168724524
Ashley may be bisexual, but Hannah is obviously straight.

>>168722814
>>168724524
What makes you think so though?

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>>168725083
They're detailed descriptions of tribadism between recording sessions.

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>>168724874
>straight
>straight for dat pussy!

>>168725083
Because they bonded intimately through recording.

>>168728092
Hannah had a fucking crush on Warren, ree. When Max said "You're from the wrong time, Warren. Then again, so am I." Hannah said "BECAUSE THEY'RE MEANT TO BE TOGETHER".

It was disgusting.

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>>168728578
So gross. I can't look.

>>168710396
The ability to see and communicate with spirits. You summon the spirits through playing music they like.
Who you summon depends on the genre and era.

>Play something like Queen
>Some male ghost with blonde hair shows up, man in his mid-30s or early-40s>Ask him about his life
>Says he lived in Oregon
>He died in a car accident
>His biggest regret was not being able to say goodbye to his wife and daughter
>But he's found peace because he knows they will be alright- his daughter went through a really tough time but she found her way again once and old friend came back into her life

>>168729545
Absolutely abhorrent. This should have never, ever been an option.

>>168731160
It wasn't for me.

>>168731759
Me either. Though I admittedly did give him a hug before leaving.
I thought it wasn't giving any mixed messages, it was a "thank you" hug and giving Max a bit of comfort from a friend as she knew she was about to enter a tough time.

>>168732035
>I thought it wasn't giving any mixed messages
That hug was a promise for fifty eight years of monogamous marriage with daily tantric sex sessions. You turned Max into Stacy Chase and sent innocent Warren Graham into space orbit. The only saving grace is that he wasn't killed by the thundercuntstorm she summoned before Chloe Thundercock claimed her pussy.

You deserve the worst, prick tease.

>>168732296
Nah. It was "Thanks for believing and helping me, even if I don't believe you about the storm. You're my friend and Chloe and I will remember to invite you to the wedding in the future"

>>168732035
I also hugged him.

The kiss is ridiculous. At worst devs forcing their shit to appease audience and consequence, at best it can be seen as Max giving Warren something to feel better about herself having to leave him standing once she inevitably undoes it all.

She was only in the Diner for Chloe, and she always leaves it behind, for her.

>>168733184
Thankfully David bravely drove into the town and rescued his wife, Frank, Joyce, Pompidou, and the fisherman. Bringing them to safety in the Dark Room where the police were.
He even managed to help some people out on the street.

>168719540
>cheap tactics
I said "I don't think so" in response to a simple point you had made that I consider absurd. That's all. You went on, so I elaborated on why I didn't think it's reasonable. You then presented your grand theory. Which I responded to. There's no tactic here.

>name calling straight away
Last I checked, it was, as always, you that started the hostility. What was that about my mom having to bone a bunch of guys for me to get my last name, composed of your contentious idea that I was shooting down discussion when I wasn't? We were having a pretty reasonable conversation then, and you came at me with that bullshit. And I didn't even react to it. I kept being reasonable.

>self-absorbed
I wrote one sentence about this topic. I left it at that. You came with your list of "facts". What is self-absorbed about arguing against something that I hold to be absurd and false? We talk about the game, that is this what this thread is.

People don't pat my back here. As I have told you before, if it were that, I wouldn't be here anymore. It's uncommon to get any replies at all, for anything. Shitposting regularly gets more replies than anything serious. Hardly any people even read what I write, let alone are aware of what I otherwise do and have done for the general.

I genuinely do want to talk about the game, which is why I have always re-engaged even you and even defended you, multiple times saying I am glad we get more talkative people despite disagreeing with or considering absurd or false half of your "opinions" and finding your shitposting annoying.

>>168732035
I liked Warren to an extent. I didn't see him as an option enough to even be mildly threatened by him.

I found him to be more of an aggressive asshole during the first playthrough, then the second I saw him for what he was: a deluded albeit well-intentioned boy who was attracted to Max but didn't want to risk losing his very real friendship with her by confessing. I think he was nauseatingly pathetic in personality, but he showed loyalty and kindness in sticking up for Max, and comforting Alyssa for example.

Just a harmless geek with entitlement issues.

Why isn't Victoria Chase's voice actress ever interviewed or involved with the game?

>>168719540
>It's clear that they have more than a teacher-student relationship
No, it really, really isn't. She was his assistant, and before class one day, she seeks advice and support from her teacher like students are encouraged and should expect to be able to do. That's it. Your idea that they were romantically or sexually involved with each other comes from your delusional semen-coated brain that also makes you shitpost with the vehemence and humor of a twelve-year old going "HEHE, Max sucks Warren's WOOD!".

>self-important to think these things matter that much?
This thread matters to me. Claiming anything else would be hypocritical and more pathetic than being here to begin with after all this time is. As such, I do think it's unfortunate that there aren't many (hardly any) people around anymore that care, that read and want to talk, that at least care enough to tell people to fuck off when they spew BS about the characters like you often do. That is not a self-important sentiment, it's the sentiment that this thread is important to me. If it weren't, I wouldn't waste time here. That would just be sad.

But maybe it's for the best. As opposed to me, you namefag actually do appear to crave attention, so nobody replying to you could help get rid of you. Have fun posting your shitty pastas and shitty roleplays and shitty shitposts with different shitty names, thinking yourself oh-so witty and funny when you are boring and obnoxious. You like to boast that you are a writer - as I've said before, I can't imagine you not being a failure at that. No good writer would puke these greentext stories together and frequently repost them.

Getting more personal than I mean to aside, I won't reply to you except for when you reply to me about something I consider worthwhile going into. It's hard for me, because I have the urge to talk about stuff in here, and you are one of the few people that read and write more than a few sentences. But I will genuinely try.

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>>168734686
That would be breaking character.

>>168734297
Pretty much how I felt about him. I didn't feel Max was threatened by his friendship, but he needed to actually ask her out so she could politely decline.
They were playing this awkward balancing act where neither wanted to do what they wanted. Warren didn't ask her out on an actual date, Max didn't sayb what needed to be said ("We're just friends and I don't want that to be more").
It seems Warren grew up a little bit over the week and realized Max wasn't into him, so once he finds a girl that likes him back, and accepts his advances, he will be fine. I think the age difference makes Warren's behavior a lot more understandable, he;s only 16 so he is awkward and trying to 'play it cool' and is failing at it.

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>>168734819

>>168734763
d/a, but your comments about caring about the thread are true.

I want to say that, although I don't write as lengthy posts as I used to, I definitely reqd more than couple of sentences of posts. Your posts, specifically.

It hurts to think that a passionate fan of the game is feeling increasingly isolated in these threads. I wuv you, and you should keep on posting.

>>168735234
A little like how Chloe was anxious to be explicit about her feelings for fear of losing the friendship she just got back. She was more forward than Warren, but obviously Max and Chloe's relationship was more complex, passionate and actually reciprocal than Warren and Max's.

>>168735724
I know there is still some folk around as passionate and a little crazy as I am. I do still have a reason to be here, after all.

And you have been one of them for quite some time too.

It does feel increasingly isolated. But I guess it cannot be helped. I'm glad we are alive at all, and thankful for every genuine poster we still get. It does not feel alienated quite yet either. I still wuv it all, and you.

>>168736175
Yeah. Chloe and Warren have a little bit in common with how they handle their feelings. They both offer hints and flirty comments that are not subtle.
But where as Warren's seem awkward, Chloe's are adorable.

>>168736654
Oh, I am more than a little crazy. I've lost count of how many dreams I've had of Life is Strange, and how much of my thoughts it occupies even a year later. It's an obsession, to be sure.

I'm both glad and touched by my presence here being a reason for you to stay, my /lisg/ darling.

I think I just might have gone mad in my feelings for this game were it not for /lisg/ giving me a medium to express and understand my infatuation.

>>168738109
Definitely an obsession of mine. I find myself thinking about the characters or how they would react to something I see (Chloe would love this album, or Max could get a really cool shot here).
But I rarely have dreams about it, then again you supposedly forget most of your dreams before waking up.

>>168736687
Chloe gives a sense of genuineness that Warren doesn't; he comes across as manipulative, and two-faced with his intentions, whereas there's a heart of gold in Chloe that shines through.

There's also the gender perception due to different standards. A shy boy is awkward and creepy, and a shy girl is bashful and endearing.

>>168738395
Me too!

I always wonder how Chloe would react to my tastes, how Max would appreciate the places I visit, if Victoria would laugh at my attempt at style.

If Jefferson would like my photography, kek.

I want to keep these characters alive in my thoughts, through our thoughts.

>>168738109
I've had four dreams that I can remember, personally.

You and me, we've been off and on, and I hope we'll continue to for... eternity, eh? Where does "Life is Strange" end? I can't say I've seen it yet, so perhaps we're stuck here and with each other 'til our or its death do us part. Could be a figurative death too though, of course.

I also think this place was important for me like that - not only to express and have my feelings and investment be understood, but also in my gradual feeling more about it, getting more invested. Had I not found the general, LiS wouldn't have been quite the lastingly impactful experience that it was and continues to be.

>>168739201
>I want to keep these characters alive in my thoughts, through our thoughts.
That. They are alive in us, our expression of as much; and others, theirs in turn.

I do look around. And they are still more alive here than anywhere else. It's the format and flow of content, but also the people.

>>168739807
We've captured their spirits better than any other congregation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjfM6NiMGG4

SHE LIVES IN YOU, SHE LIVES IN MEEEEEEE-.

Also, fitting for Chloe's father and her.

I assume you're a d/a than the anon I responded to. You're my /lisg/ lover, right? We have been on and off, but our mutual love of game has never wavered, nor has our love for each other, in an Internet way, of course.

>>168729545
REWIND THIS

>>168740939
I'm not >>168738395, if you were wondering.

/lisg/ lovers.

The Lion King was actually one of the earliest impressive narrative experiences for me. And that scene specifically was so inspiring.

Simba having become separated and estranged from who he is, where he belongs, with whom he does. And the tentativeness and confusion when Rafiki leads him there, and the initial fear and uncertainty when he sees it himself, then however replaced with a great determination and confidence and will, going back accepting and embracing himself, where he belongs and those he belongs with.

Fitting for Chloe indeed, not only with regards to her father, but also through Max finding back to herself, first tentatively, not quite able to believe and accept it, but then powerfully, embracing and running into it, into Max - like Simba reunites with Nala and she helps him find himself again, be a king, so that he runs back to rule his kingdom.

Obviously with one of the important distinctions being that Chloe and Max's kingdom is one of their love, and as opposed to that love giving them the strength to reclaim and rebuild a kingdom to its former glory, it gives them to strength to bear the ruin of a kingdom. Kingdoms can rise and fall etc.

>>168743556
There's also the parallel of Chloe's life, a life that's become self-destructive, a life that she's ignored and retreated from into escapism, that Max helps her confront and cope with, and build a life that her father would be proud of.

That's similar to Simba's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25QyCxVkXwQ

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>>168744781
Exactly.

Rachel is Chloe's "Hakuna Matata" of having tried to run away from her past, herself, seeking distraction, hoping to find happiness there. Max however giving her the strength to confront her past, accept it, overcome her demons, finding and embracing her truer self. Finding true happiness there, and true love.

Standing on a cliff overlooking it all at the end of it, together.

>>168745390
Indeed, Rachel is.

"Be Prepared" is Jefferson's song, el o el.

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>>168746132
The english versions of those songs are actually new to me, for the most part.

I want a crossover fanart now, Max and Chloe on the cliff from that classic Lion King perspective.

>>168747059
Me too. I really want a crossover.

What's your native language?

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>>168747160
German. I speak an atrocious french too though, if you're into that.

Unfortunately, the scene where Max and Chloe stand side-by-side on the edge of the cliff at the end of Episode 1, is a cinematic - meaning I cannot use the camera mod to create that perspective with it.

Obviously a few similar fanarts do exist, but it has to have that iconicity.

>>168747952
I understand. Let's hope for fan art.

I know a bit of German, but I don't speak it fluently, unfortunately. I stopped taking classes a while ago.

I've talked about a crossover between Life is Strange and Interview with the Vampire before, but Chloe hasn't Lestat's capacity for malevolence.

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>>168748612
We did talk about that crossover. That time, we were upset with the lack of fanart for the characters in similar attire. A more malevolent Chloe would still be an intriguing character.

Honestly, I had never even conceived of the idea of "crossovers", prior to LiS. And now, I find it delightful imagining not only how it relates to other works, but also how it would translate into them, or at least their general setting and characterizations.

LiS also popped my fanfiction cherry. It's my first in more than one regard.

>>168749746
If you've read The Vampire Lestat, he wasn't malicious as a human. He was tired of the 1780's small village he occupied as a minor aristocrat. He wept as a boy over the injustice of the witch burnings, and embraced the arts and scientific enlightenment.

You could make a parallel between Chloe and Lestat, there.

I've been an avid fanfiction consumer before Life is Strange, though.

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>>168750307
I haven't, but that indeed does give his character an edge Chloe could a little more effortlessly translate into. A malice that that stems from a trauma in a sense. Obviously still pretty fundamentally different characterizations.

On the topic of fanfiction, I'll go check if there's something good that's new or updated I can read myself to sleep with now, or whether I have to go back to my standard bedtime lit as I've had to more and more often in the last months. Or year, really. Do you still follow LiS fanfiction, or read any at all?

Gute Nacht.

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>>168734083
>Shitposting regularly gets more replies than anything serious
It has long since become purgatorial in its clockwork regularity.

>Hardly any people even read what I write
I always do.

>let alone are aware of what I otherwise do and have done for the general
I've always appreciated you, though I expect you do more for this board than even I realise.

>that at least care enough to tell people to fuck off when they spew BS about the characters like you often do
I truly believe that ignoring BS is more effective and classier that telling people to fuck off. It doesn't mean I don't care.

-your Late Night Friend

>>168735724
Hey, wuving is my shtick!

>>168744781
>>168745390
I don't know guys, Hanuka Matata is far from a destructive way of life. Calling it escapism is like calling Zen philosophy escapism. When your life is lived entirely around a single philosophy you can't really call it escapism, it's just life at that point.

>>168749746
We could conceivably get a LiS/Lion King crossover in Kingdom Hearts 3.
-your Late Night friend

>>168751481
I do follow Life is Strange fanfiction. I regularly check the FF.net and Ao3 Pricefield tag.

What's your usual bedtime lit?

>>168751518
>Hey, wuving is my shtick!
It'd appear it is!

Gute Nacht to you too, Freund der späten Nacht.

>Hanuka Matata is far from a destructive way of life.
That is true.

While Rachel was also not strictly "destructive" for Chloe, it stands to argue that "Hakuna Matata" is a way of life Simba actually did find a real happiness in, even if he lost his roots and ran from his past. Whereas "Rachel" as a complex represents also alcohol and weed and unrequited love and futile love and betrayal and yearning and latent sadness and so on, for Chloe. It's a happy place, but more like an isle in the shitpit that was her life, emotionally and otherwise, something she clung onto, a desperate place. And one that always left her wanting, unsatisfied - for Rachel, but above all for the past, wanting to recapture it, which is a true carelessness and true happiness, and of course Max and their bond.

It's been a while that I've watched the movie, but Simba was not really suffering from and yearning for his past in his Hakuna Matata phase, was he? Was there a latent sadness in his time with Timon and Pumba?

Either way, you're right, "Hakuna Matata" should not be considered something "bad" that one has to overcome and leave behind. It can be an actual life, fulfilling. Which Rachel obviously could not ever have been for Chloe, dead or alive.

>>168752113
I do still check every other night, but do not find something to click on with nearly the same frequency I used to back then. Has to do with both me and the material of course.

Usually, I just read standard prose, rarely poetry. Kindle has a lot of free classic lit; I have around a thousand works on there, a fair share of it philosophy and other nonfiction, but also a great amount of fantastic narrative and collected works.

If you haven't already, get it for your phone or even just PC. Once you "buy" the free stuff, it stays. I think there's less free classics and less free lit altogether now than there used to be, so the sooner you claim any, the better.

It's still absolutely insane to me that I can carry around a library in my pocket men of literature would have had to have spent a lifetime accumulating in meticulous effort just a decade ago and extending into all of past beyond it, to fill entire halls with them. And I get that, instantly, portably, for free. We do live in great times, despite it not always seeming like it.

For all this phone can do, posting on 4chan from it will be the death of me one day.

Good night again.

>>168755441
*and of course Max and their bond, a true love.

>>168710396
Being able to read the minds of women at any given time

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>>168755441
>Freund der späten Nacht.
Es ist 3 Uhr nachmittags aber in Ordnung! (used Google translate so I have no idea what that actually says)

>but Simba was not really suffering from and yearning for his past in his Hakuna Matata phase, was he? Was there a latent sadness in his time with Timon and Pumba?
He quite literally takes it in stride, his Hakuna Matata phase is represented visually as Timon, Pumba and Sima strutting through life in a carefree swagger, never looking back, living life to fullest in the moment. It's beautiful because Simba learns not to blame the world for his situation, he doesn't let Scar make him a victim of circumstance, the victim Scar wanted him to be. Simba takes revenge against the world by living a good life. Really AU Chloe has the most in common with Sima, both experience tragedy, and in spite of that they both just say "Hakuna Matata" and enjoy their lives. Regular Chloe is the polar opposite of that. She lets her tragedy define her, that's the opposite of Hakuna Matata. Likely the game making a statement about how much Chloe cared for her father, and how profound of an impact his passing had on her. Chloe never found her Timon and Pumba (or they moved to Seattle).

You guys probably see a lot of posts like this, but I just finished this game and it hit me so hard emotionally. It's weird because it feels like, for the first time in a long time, I actually feel deep emotions again, I don't feel so cold like I do all the time.

Seeing Kate Marsh has made me realize how badly I want a modest Christian QT 3.14 girlfriend

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Sleepover at Max's room!
Chloe's gonna run out and get pizza and drinks, then they're gonna watch movies and talk.

>>168758484
Hugs and backpats!

>>168758596
What did you think of the game and ending? Which ending did you pick so we can comfort/berate you depending on which?

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>>168758438
This. What Women Want is pretty much the comfiest movie ever. It only stands to reason that it would make for the comfiest game ever. There's a lot of interesting things to explore through that power too. How our perception of ourselves differs from the perception of others and vice versa. How what we desire isn't necessarily what's best for us, the morality of lies, how knowledge affects power dynamics, could be some interesting stuff. Pretty cheesy premise though.

>>168759468
Hugs and backpats indeed!

>>168759420
I would absolutely love to see this picture with Chloe's truck

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BAE!

>>168762602
Cute!

I want to stick my penis inside of Chloe

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>>168763920
She really is!
Max is so lucky.

>>168764537
I guarantee you she does NOT want that. For numerous reasons.
So don't even think about it.

>>168764775
I thought she was bi tho

>>168764817
She leans more towards girls, but regardless- she is happily spoken for. Trying to do anything by her would get you killed by her, then killed again when Max rewind to have her chance to kill you.

max looks like the scout from tf2 wearing a wig

>>168766078
I don't see it.

I want to hug Max! (But only with her permission)

Cant wait for the series to make both Bay the canon ending and Grahamfield the canon couple

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Look at the happy family

That shit will NEVER be canon. You're not even getting a direct response.

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No more storms

Wonder how many people will pick up LiS for the first time this weekend. It's 75% off.
Hopefully any newcomers here are vigilant and realize the flaws of the story so they don't pick a stupid final choice.

>>168775618
>a stupid final choice
Like one that would doom a town full of people in the name of a lesbian crush, amirite?

>>168776340
Well it's not like Max can stop the storm so why destroy herself with guilt/misery by trying?
Besides, she got that power specifically so she could save Chloe.

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>An evil masked man armed with poison gas approaches the burrow entrance
>Suddenly a mechanism goes off and he gives a great yelp as he's struck in the chest
>Clever Kate set up a crossbow booby trap to repel nasty Frenchmen

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>>168776647
>Well it's not like Max can stop the storm
The player is aware that she can. Even if it's an illogical choice for Max, the player still knows it is the right one.
>she got that power specifically so she could save Chloe.
I think she got it so that she could spend a week with Chloe. This allowed her to grow up and let go of her childhood and fix the only real mistake that mattered to her (not contacting Chloe). The entire theme of growing up and accepting responsibility is completely nullified if she sacrifices the town.

>>168778796
I didn't know she could fix the storm, part of me even thought such a terrible ending was to mislead the player into killing Chloe and having the storm happen- anyway.

>I think she got it so that she could spend a week with Chloe.
I disagree and so does Max. She makes her thoughts clear in her diary; she thinks it was her destiny to be there to save Chloe, to solve the mystery about Rachel and the others, and that she thought it would be stupid to give up her best friend over some trolley problem.
The entire theme about accepting responsibility and growing up is eliminated if Chloe dies. Max undoes her actions and condemns herself to being miserable, Chloe never grows up and dies alone and pissed off, and none of the other characters learn the lessons Max helped them learn.

Under no circumstances do I consider it a more fitting, nor mature, ending. I see it as admitting defeat and needlessly fucking over the characters.

Kitty!Chloe is best kitty

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>>168780419
A-am I second best kitty?

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>>168780160
>I didn't know she could fix the storm
But the choices are literally spelt out: Sacrifice Chloe or Sacrifice Arcadia Bay.

>so does Max
Everyone disagrees with everyone else's interpretation, and Max is definitely not the authority either.

>The entire theme about accepting responsibility and growing up is eliminated if Chloe dies
Meh, I thought the opposite. Carrying on a relationship with your crush at the expense of hundreds of people's homes isn't accepting any kind of responsibility in my books.

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Sleep tight /lisg/.

Even though they went through some rough times it was all worth it. To have each other. To have someone that truly understands and respect them. To have someone to to talk, smile, laugh, cuddle, and cry with.
After a storm comes the sunlight and warmth.

>>168780721
>Max is not the authority on Max's feelings or beliefs
Wut.
There is not one thing to convince her throughout the game the storm can be stopped. Even if she accepts her power may have caused the storm. This conversation has been had hundreds of times and the ONLY evidence to say otherwise are:
1. Warren's idiotic explanation
2. The Bay Ending itself which does extreme amounts of contradictions and backpedaling
And at the end of it all it's just a storm. they happen naturally and the one in Arcadia Bay was no worse than a regular one (The ending scene even shows the damage looks to be fairly low). Max should not have to bear the responsibility for something she didn't want or try to do or for something that could just as easily happen on its own.
Pinning the blame on yourself for something out of your control is very childish and makes her out to be some stepping mat.

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Bee Ayy Eee > Bee Ayy WHY

>>168780901
>Wut.
We were talking about why Max gets her power. Not her feelings. Max doesn't know any better than the rest of us.

>There is not one thing to convince her throughout the game the storm can be stopped. Even if she accepts her power may have caused the storm.
I never said otherwise. In fact, in one of my earlier posts I said "it's an illogical choice for Max".

>And at the end of it all it's just a storm. they happen naturally
But this one wasn't natural. It was precipitated by lots of other unnatural phenomena.

>Max should not have to bear the responsibility for something she didn't want or try to do or for something that could just as easily happen on its own.
But it didn't happen on its own. It was caused by Max's actions and she correctly works this out. The responsibility is hers, because she set it in motion and has the ability to make it not happen. It's not out of her control.

>>168781178
> It was caused by Max's actions
Prove it, without using the actual bay ending. Use evidence throughout the game that every player saw/heard.
If the responsibility is Max's then it's also on numerous other characters that did actions leading up to Max getting her power in the first place. Or on whatever gave Max that power.
So even if her power did cause it she cannot be expected to undo everything. That's insanely cruel and idiotic.

Max had visions of the storm before she did anything

What kind of asshole would show someone a vision to make them think something bad is coming and then make them the trigger for that event?

If some deity or whatever actually did that then they deserve to be defied

Max tearing apart that photo was the correct thing because it ends it there, no doubts about what's happening and no more screwed up timelines. Things have taken their natural course. Max got her power and used it and is living with the initial choice she made.

>>168781372
>Prove it, without using the actual bay ending. Use evidence throughout the game that every player saw/heard.
Why? The bay ending proves it. What other proof do we need?

>If the responsibility is Max's then it's also on numerous other characters that did actions leading up to Max getting her power in the first place.
None of them were aware of how their choices and actions could cause a storm. That's like blaming a piano-maker for one of his pianos crushing someone to death five years after he made it.
Now, if he could somehow become aware that that particular piano would fall on someone, then yes, he becomes partly responsible for that death if he chooses to still make that piano.

>Or on whatever gave Max that power.
Sure. If the butterfly, or Rachel, or whoever was aware that using the power could cause a storm. Which seems likely.

>So even if her power did cause it she cannot be expected to undo everything
Why not? People will die if she indulges her own selfish desires.

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>53% of people fell for Michel's bullshit

>>168783445
Why do you guys hate Michel? Without him there wouldn't even be this game.

>>168780726
Sweet dreams anon.

>>168784179
kill yourself

>>168781713
>Why? The bay ending proves it. What other proof do we need?

The bay ending comes after the choice anon. That's a bit too late for proving it when you need it. How is that even a question? It is knowledge you can only use in hindsight and only after making one of the choices.

>None of them were aware of how their choices and actions could cause a storm.

And neither was Max when she saved Chloe in ep1. Which she did without using her powers either, the use of powers was forced on her.

>Now, if he could somehow become aware that that particular piano would fall on someone, then yes, he becomes partly responsible for that death if he chooses to still make that piano.

But that's a different scenario. Yes if Max was made aware in the bathroom what her saving Chloe would cause, she would be responsible for the death it causes if she still does it. There's a big difference between being made aware of the consequences before you do something, and after the fact.

You judge actions based on the knowledge you have at hand the moment you take them. Saving Chloe in ep1 was the right thing to do. And from there you accept it and move on.

And this is a problem a lot of people have in real life too. They beat themselves up over things they did because in hindsight they see maybe they should've done it differently. But they couldn't have possibly known at the time, and with what they knew, they did act correctly.

Max going back to undo something that was right at the time, is that same person. One that looks back and says no, I should undo that. It brings back the Max of episode 1 that doubts everything she does even when she does the right things. The Max that goes back on the lesson she admitted learning earlier in episode 5, that she should stop trying to fix things. She never learns, she keeps undoing her past decisions, decisions correct at the time, trying to fix things, instead of accepting them, looking forward and finally stop messing with time.

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>>168785350
>The bay ending comes after the choice anon. That's a bit too late for proving it when you need it. How is that even a question? It is knowledge you can only use in hindsight and only after making one of the choices.
Which is exactly what I'm talking about. We - the player - know that Max can stop the storm, even if Max doesn't.

>And neither was Max when she saved Chloe in ep1. Which she did without using her powers either, the use of powers was forced on her.
But at the moment of her choice we have much more information, and Max has the chance not to make that piano.

>But that's a different scenario.
It's an analogy.

>There's a big difference between being made aware of the consequences before you do something, and after the fact.
That's only the case if you assume that time has only one direction. Max is the sole person for whom that's not the case, and she thus has more responsibility than anyone else, because she has more power than anyone else to influence events. Superman is more culpable for a meteor hitting the Earth than anyone else, because he alone has the power to stop it.

>You judge actions based on the knowledge you have at hand the moment you take them. Saving Chloe in ep1 was the right thing to do. And from there you accept it and move on.
Again, that's only the case if you assume that future actions can't be revised. Max has the ability, and therefore the responsibility, to make the best possible choices in every situation.

>>168785350
This.

It is a perfect analogy on life, how people make decisions they think are right, and later regret them because it turns out they've had consequences they didn't want. And how blind and stupid that regret is, because we can never know the consequences of our decisions, we can only make them on basis of what we think and feel is right at the time of the decision.

And the lesson of the time travel story should now be that "Actshually, it is right that we regret our decisions and it would be better if we could go back and not make them, that is how we could become an adult". Uh, ok.

>>168785673
>Which is exactly what I'm talking about. We - the player - know that Max can stop the storm, even if Max doesn't.
If you're playing the game as a player/god deciding what humans should choose to do then yeah sure. If you're playing it trying to put yourself in Max's shoes, thinking what she would do, then that information is irrelevant.

>But at the moment of her choice we have much more information, and Max has the chance not to make that piano.
Without knowing what that would lead to. The whole 5th episode is a result of that same photo hopping power failing to produce the results Max wanted. To the point she gave up and said I can't keep trying to fix things.

>Again, that's only the case if you assume that future actions can't be revised.

But they shouldn't be revised. The whole game shows this again and again, Max trying to fix things and only making things worse. Reaching a point where she nearly lost everything.

To go against this, to fall back into the trap of undoing the past decisions using this unreliable power, is to learn nothing out of this. You can't keep trying to fix things.

>>168785910
>And the lesson of the time travel story should now be that "Actshually, it is right that we regret our decisions and it would be better if we could go back and not make them, that is how we could become an adult".
No, the lesson is "your actions always have consequences. Rewinding your actions to try to escape consequences is childish and doomed to fail."

>And how blind and stupid that regret is, because we can never know the consequences of our decisions, we can only make them on basis of what we think and feel is right at the time of the decision.
Except none of that applies because Max CAN know the consequences of her actions.

>>168786258
>If you're playing the game as a player/god deciding what humans should choose to do then yeah sure. If you're playing it trying to put yourself in Max's shoes, thinking what she would do, then that information is irrelevant.
I just don't see the Protagonist and the Player as truly separate. If I'm playing some other RPG I'll always heal up when I know a boss fight is coming, even though my character wouldn't necessarily know that.

>Without knowing what that would lead to. The whole 5th episode is a result of that same photo hopping power failing to produce the results Max wanted. To the point she gave up and said I can't keep trying to fix things.
It's a gamble, which is what makes it illogical and why I don't accept Bay anymore than I accept Bae. But I still think it's thematically the correct choice.

>But they shouldn't be revised. The whole game shows this again and again, Max trying to fix things and only making things worse. Reaching a point where she nearly lost everything.
I don't think it stops there. Rewinding at ALL was a mistake. It's not enough to rewind a hundred times until you get your goal and then say "rewinding is a bad idea and I won't do it anymore". Either rewinding is a bad idea or it's not. If it's bad, then don't decide it's bad only after you've killed a bunch of people.

>>168785673
>We - the player - know that Max can stop the storm, even if Max doesn't.
I didn't know this at the time of the choice, actually. The choice screen didn't convince me. And besides, my choice was made for the story, not for me as a omniscient entity pondering a cut-and-dry moral dilemma.

>Max has the ability, and therefore the responsibility, to make the best possible choices in every situation.
You have the ability to help people right now, and you aren't. Guess you are an irresponsible, unmoral non-adult. Guess only a fraction of a percentage of humans in the history of mankind were ever adults, if they really always acted on their abilities as responsibilities for others.

And either way, the best possible choice in a dilemma that has no objectively best choice, is the one she holds to be right. She is the only one that can make the choice, and the only one that can be the judge of it.

And what she golds to be right is obviously saving Chloe. That is also helping someone else, by the way. And also taking responsibility. For a choice and many more choices she has made and stands by.

What the "adult" thing even is altogether is highly debatable and subjective anyway, and even more so how it plays into this story and final choice. Whether "responsibility" has anything to do with it.

>Superman is more culpable for a meteor hitting the Earth than anyone else, because he alone has the power to stop it.
Culpable? No, he is as blameless for a meteor hitting the Earth as anyone else. Saving the Earth could be considered the morally right thing, or it could not be, but certainly it is not his responsibility or fault. Not anyone born and existing has the obligation and responsibility to live to their fullest abilities and use them, for others or for whatever.

>>168786739
>No, the lesson is "your actions always have consequences. Rewinding your actions to try to escape consequences is childish and doomed to fail."
You do realize this lesson is only learned if she does not go back, right? You rewind all of her actions to escape an unforeseen, unwanted consequence.

>Except none of that applies because Max CAN know the consequences of her actions.
She did not know the consequences at the time of her decision. How do you not get this? She knew those consequences neither at the beginning of the game when she made her choice, nor at the end the consequences of the final choice. It is about what she thinks and feels is right. Everything else would be the idea that "yeah, if we humans had time travel powers, we could perhaps become adults, and undo our decisions instead of rightfully regretting them for the rest of our lives". That is nonsense, especially in a story where the power is narrative device and metaphor.

>If it's bad, then don't decide it's bad only after you've killed a bunch of people.
You mean after you have actively saved a bunch of people, and in an unforeseen twist of the cosmos that actually goes against logic and everything you rightfully assumed, that threatens to kill people, you should go back on all of that?

You can keep thinking it's thematically fitting. It certainly can have a thematic fit for someone. For me, it's so unfitting, narratively and characterally, that it is impossible. Once I get writing about why Bae is the right ending for me and my understanding and reading of these characters and this story, I usually can't even stop.

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>>168786846
>I didn't know this at the time of the choice, actually. The choice screen didn't convince me. And besides, my choice was made for the story, not for me as a omniscient entity pondering a cut-and-dry moral dilemma.
I guess I played the game quite differently to you then.

>You have the ability to help people right now, and you aren't. Guess you are an irresponsible, unmoral non-adult. Guess only a fraction of a percentage of humans in the history of mankind were ever adults, if they really always acted on their abilities as responsibilities for others.
You're taking it to a logical extreme.

>And either way, the best possible choice in a dilemma that has no objectively best choice, is the one she holds to be right. She is the only one that can make the choice, and the only one that can be the judge of it.
I don't agree. Morality may be subjective, but we have every right to judge and debate it.
Also, Max doesn't exist independently of the Player. "She" doesn't make any choices - we do.

>And what she golds to be right is obviously saving Chloe. That is also helping someone else, by the way
It's still a selfish choice. Chloe was insistent on not being saved, and Max takes that agency away from her.

>And also taking responsibility. For a choice and many more choices she has made and stands by.
I don't think it is. I think it's avoiding responsibility by refusing to save people whose lives are in her hands.

>No, he is as blameless for a meteor hitting the Earth as anyone else. Saving the Earth could be considered the morally right thing, or it could not be, but certainly it is not his responsibility or fault. Not anyone born and existing has the obligation and responsibility to live to their fullest abilities and use them, for others or for whatever.
We'll have to disagree on that one. I think power implies the responsible and benevolent use of that power.

Max is innocent.
The Prescotts are the ones to blame for tornado.

>>168786739
>It's not enough to rewind a hundred times until you get your goal and then say "rewinding is a bad idea and I won't do it anymore"
She never got her goal. Even if Chloe was her priority, her goal was for everyone to be safe and happy. Her goal was to find even Rachel alive. And in the process of trying to achieve that, she reached a point where she had failed to find Rachel alive, Chloe was dead and the town was getting destroyed. She nearly lost everything.

>But I still think it's thematically the correct choice.
This is why it doesn't fit thematically. You have a whole story show how unexpected and unpredictably bad the results of this power are, leading to the character realizing she can't keep trying to fix things and she should stop playing with time.

And you have one ending close the story by having that same character, who just came to realize that, go "just this once more" and use that same dreaded power again to undo the past. With even less reasoning than the other times that this would work, and a much bigger cost attached to going through it.
It's one of the biggest clashes thematically and narratively I've ever experienced.

>>168787543
t. Victoria

>>168787271
>Chloe was insistent on not being saved, and Max takes that agency away from her.
She is not. Her goal is that Max makes her choice without feeling guilty for leaving her. And she succeeds in doing exactly that. Chloe herself says whatever Max chooses is the right thing. This would not be the case if Chloe actually wanted to not be saved. You can see the AU euthanasia scene for how it looks when Chloe is insistent what Max should choose with her fate.

>>168787271
>e have every right to judge and debate it
Yes, but it is her that made the choice. Your judging and debating of it is well and all, but it has no bearing on whether her judgment was right or not. It was the only judgment and the right judgment, because she was the only one in a position to make the choice.

>She" doesn't make any choices - we do.
And I made my choices in accordance of what I think is right with her and the narrative, not me. We did play the game differently. It is valid that you took yourself out of it more and considered the choices from a place of subjective moral debate for instance. I am not saying that is wrong. But I didn't really do that, not at the end nor anywhere else. I've had character and narrative considerations in mind, more so than my own.

>a selfish choice
Nice buzzword. "Sacrificing Chloe is selfish, as Max kills someone else to flee from the consequences of her actions that she cannot bear."

>insistent on not being save/takes that agency away
1. Chloe does not have that agency. It is Max, only her. Chloe understands this.
2. She was not insistent on not being saved. She brought them both into safety and again and again told Max to stop beating herself up, that they had paid their dues. She accepts Max's choice to save her, embraces her and it. Insistence on not being saved would look different. Such as throwing herself off of the cliff.

>I think it's avoiding responsibility by refusing to save people whose lives are in her hands.
Chloe's life is in her hands. Her own is. Refusing to go back is taking responsibility for her own life and that of Chloe. And there are more lives tied to her choice, by risk. What about Kate? Nathan? David and Joyce? Victoria? They are all in danger to be killed or kill themselves.

And either way, responsibility for one life is enough for it to be the same "few vs. many" dilemma even if we do dumb it down to "responsibility".

>We'll have to disagree on that one
So we do.

>>168787543
So just like your mother huh?

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>>168787867

>>168787543
There's literally nothing wrong with being a whore.

Kate was drugged against her will, anyway. She's not a whore, regardless.

>>168755441
>Which Rachel obviously could not ever have been for Chloe, dead or alive.
That is the tragedy and sadness of their relationship, its futility, that it was a dream, a childish one, an impossible one: Chloe wishing herself to be someone she was not, some random happy and careless person in L.A. that had successfully left her past behind in running from it, from Arcadia - a true carelessness and happiness she was later to find in leaving behind Arcadia with Max; wishing her feelings for Rachel to be something they weren't, a bond as strong as she used to have in her childhood - a love like she was later to find with Max; wishing likewise Rachel's feelings for her to be something they were not, a love and dedication - like Max was to give her.

Where do you want season 2 to take place? Do you want something new like a major city or do you want to revisit a quiet suburban area again?

>>168788309
That is also the tragedy and sadness expressed in "Mountains", in the futility of the notion of mountains running away. As such, finding Rachel's grave also represents a confrontation of Chloe with this, an ultimate realization that her dream of their future is impossible, always had been, a childish and futile dream. But there's a catharsis in her crying and mourning, an acceptance. A healing and growing. It is a painful realization process, giving up this "childish" place she had desperately clung to, overcoming it. And obviously it is a painful process in as much as it happens through losing the person itself, not only what she was to her, but most appropriately, Max helps Chloe through this process, and she comes out of it more certain of who she is, what she wants, who she wants. Finally being able to let go, seeing things clearly and ultimately, overcoming her denial that had her hide her feelings and not act on them, because she was afraid of the answer that she already knew: that she didn't really love Rachel, that Rachel didn't really love her, that their connection could not help her heal and be happy. Whereas with Max, it is the opposite: she does act on her feelings instantly, because she is excited for the answer that she already knew: that she loves Max, always has, that Max loves her the same, that they do make each other better, happy.

>>168734763
>>168719540
Just to add, because I feel bad about that "failure as a writer" thing: It is also hard for me not to reply because as I've mentioned multiple times, you do also have interesting things to say about the game, and an intellect, rhetoric ability and willingness to talk more about them. I don't doubt other people here also have the former two, but the willingness doesn't seem to be there for a lot of them. So I take what I get. But again, I will try not to take you on unpromptedly anymore.

>>168787867
So which of them broke the fart barrier first?

>>168788659
Alaska feat. Comfy Winter Feelz

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>>168788659
NEW ENGLAND
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>"I wonder if they'd ever consider letting Mommy be Season 2's main character"
>"Go to sleep Alice"

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>>168755441
Ha, you could actually say it like that.

>She lets her tragedy define her
I agree with your general assessment, but I don't think she "let" it define her - it just does. As opposed to Simba, she cannot overcome her demons, escape her past, severe the ties. She can't help but to be latently sad and yearning. As you say, this is also because Rachel is not quite her Timon and Pumba, could not have been; as it stands, she did not fulfill and satisfy Chloe. Mindless fun, sexy distraction, drugs and oblivion, a few passing moments that were good or ok, a real friendship that felt important - sure. A real, deep bond, a beneficial nature of the same, really overcoming her past, healing, growing? There was always something (someone) missing, a want, a yearning, a grief, a sadness, a distance problems unsolved, things unsaid, and so on. Whereas Simba, Timon and Pumba didn't seem to have that - they were close-knit, open and content.

Whether I'd agree with the idea of Max as her Timon and Pumba depends on the definition of Hakuna Matata. Originally, we used it here as the place that is escapist at least in the sense that Simba in the narrative context of The Lion King is actually a king, meant to return to rule his kingdom. That it is right and good for him to remember that, be that. With that, I would say Max and the life they can make for each other, the people they blossom to become to be through and with the other, in that life, the powerful and meaningful love they share - this all is the place I would say Chloe is to - and likewise, can't help but to - return to. Accept and embrace this meant-to-be-togetherness, this "kingdom of love".

But of course, Timon and Pumba return to that place with Simba, so that would still open the analogy for Life is Strange in other ways. Obviously a bit of a pretentious stretch to cross-apply it anyway, but it's interesting and there are parallels, even though I'd agree Hakuna Matata itself is something actually worthwhile.

>>168789106
>"I wonder if they'd ever consider letting Mommy be Season 2's main character"

Better not.
Michel will only make her suffer even more.

Shit, >>168789109 was for >>168758484.

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>daily reminder that it's confirmed that the blue butterfly is storm summoner (the harbinger of disaster) This means, it became clear that storm's still coming in Bay ending

>>168789106
Good night Alice. And Dorothy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpDr4hq7KoU

Chloe's theme.

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What if Season 2 turns out to be better than S1 in every single way?

>>168789928
It cannot. Not in every single way. It does not get more human than human, adn these characters feel brilliantly alive and human to me. That would be to compare humans against each other and say one is better than the other as a human.

It's obviously possible people could become even more attached to its characters if they also feel alive and human to them. I highly doubt that. I have got to meet a lot of fictional characters in my time, and Life is Strange's are unique, an exception that is at this point - and wouldn't surprise me if it remained that way beyond it - a once-in-a-lifetime occurence. I was never this invested in and enamoured with fictional characters that I post about it online for two years, keep up with the author and audience, hell, save fanart and read (or even write) fanfiction.

But if it did manage to make me care this much, and even more... honestly, I might just actively try to not indulge in all those things then. As much as I enjoy this all, I won't have the time to be that invested in the future, so I would be looking to forget about it as best as I can and not go down that path I can't seem to get tired of walking right now, even after two years.

>>168787857
>>a selfish choice
>Nice buzzword. "Sacrificing Chloe is selfish, as Max kills someone else to flee from the consequences of her actions that she cannot bear."
A correction: ...from the consequences of her actions that she does not want to bear.

That would be the selfishness of Bay, the argument if I did hold this notion of "selfishness/selflessness" to be relevant here. Which I don't. I don't think "selfish" holds any relevancy or significance for the final choice. Because in my understanding of her and the narrative, the thing she could actually not bear, as opposed to the tornado hitting Arcadia, is Chloe's death. She could not live without her. As such, saving Chloe is not selfish (and it's altogether absurd to me that people twist it to say saving another person's life is selfish; it doesn't matter that you love them, it is still just as much another life as any other that you are saving), but self-preservative, and self-love. Which is not a bad thing as "selfishness" is usually thought to be, but the complete opposite, important to attaining any happiness for ourselves and those around us in life at all, the only reason to be alive at all. If we didn't even love ourselves enough to act self-preservative, we could just as well not live at all.

This just for the "selfish" thing though, and the cruel and inhumane blame people build with it to put on Max in this situation. More than self-love, there is of course also a love for someone else and between her and them expressed in her decision.

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They are table tennis pros!

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>>168788659
Duluth Minnesota.

Quiet port town, picturesque view of the great lakes, lots of history, a carnival by the harbor, people with funny accents

It's perfect

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>>168788659
Whitby, UK

>>168788659
American south

>>168793505
I doubt that.

>>168798862
Rude.

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>>168790946
This right here.
Even if Season 2 were better in some ways than Season 1, it can never be objectively better. No one flawed perfection is better than any other flawed perfection.

>>168765501
The only dick she wants is from Hot Dog Man.

>>168788659
Detroit, Michigan

Plenty of junkyards to explore

>Page 10

JUST

>>168800596
That joke would have worked better with the word "wiener"

>>168787410
THIS
Besides, until every angle is explored and explained you cannot convict Max of being responsible. The whole point of Chaos Theory is small changes resulting in bigger ones.
Maybe there was something in the Bay Endings timeline that changed and resulted in no storm (or its delay) but I highly doubt it had to do with Chloe.

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Max, stop putting on these filters to mess with Chloe, it is not good for her heart!

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>>168804237
NO EMOJI

>>168788665
>But again, I will try not to take you on unpromptedly anymore.
My main issue is that you said you wouldn't then continued to do so. I use the namefag to make it easier for users who don't appreciate my content to avoid, not because I'm seeking attention.

As for my roleplaying, that's the easiest way to acknowledge the dark sides of the characters, in particular Kate Marsh. She's a lovable, innocent character, but her religious beliefs contradict much of what draws us to her. Instead of pretending she's someone she isn't, I satirize her as the Evangelical Republican, one with much more extreme views than her own. The Not Mr. Jefferson and Not Warren Graham were playing on someone else's jokes. I joined in the fun, which is what this thread is supposed to be about...or so I thought.

I apologize for being harsh as well. We both appreciate the game on a deep level. I'll be dropping the namefag for awhile, as I've already been phasing it out. We'll probably debate again in the near future, but you won't know it's me.

TheWorld'sBayest signing off.

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Dorks!

Max did nothing wrong.

>>168805779
Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKa1obrh4_M

>>168805675
She didn't fail!

>>168805779
>spilling blessed beans
>not alerting Joyce to the possible spoilage of eggs out in a bag by the door
>not bringing Chloe to violent orgasm each and every night instead of moving to Seattle
>endangering blessed Samuel's employment by causing a work accident
>not cuntpunting Victoria Chase
>not rewinding and dick punching Jefferson
>not warning Chloe that laying on train tracks was a dangerous idea
>not watering Lisa the proper amount
>not setting clear boundaries with Warren by making out with Chloe in front of him and asking him to write their wedding invitations

Max did some things wrong.

>>168807976
The last one, kek..

>>168807976
...I guess.

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>>168807390
She can take good shots. She just doesn't have the same eye Max does.

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>>168810292
But Max only has eyes for Chloe.

>>168810832
Obviously. I meant an eye as a photographer.

>>168663879
Made my day, Thanks

>>168811804
Made my day (terrible)
Read that and vomited.

>>168804083
But he is Hot Dog Man, not Fellow of Weiner.

HOW WOULD CHLOE PROPOSE

>>168812971
When they finally are able to go to Paris. Right under the Eiffel Tower on a starry night.
He and Max and walking hand in and hand, and then Chloe suddenly stops, Max walks a few more feet, realizes, turns around, and sees Chloe kneeling and holding out the box.

>>168813562
>He
REWIND THIS!

>>168813562
I don't think Chloe would kneel.

She would stand, and look her in the eye as Max turned back, and as Max closed her eyes to kiss Chloe, Chloe would slip the little black box into her hand.

>>168813968
>I don't think Chloe would kneel.
>All the same, we do not kneel.

Paris is a tad unoriginal. Since her relationship with Max means more to her than anything else in her life, she'd exercise a rare amount of patience and wait for a unique way to propose to pop--no pun intended--into her head.

>>168812971
For example, she would wait for Max to take a selfie on their anniversary or by their old treefort. Chloe would photobomb in the background by holding out the ring and a giving Max a questioningly glance.

Max would shake the photo then realize what happened. After a few moments in shock, she'd leap into Chloe's arms, shouting yes and kiss her.

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>>168813736
SHE(eeiiit.)

>>168814739
That's a pretty cute idea as well. I just thought of Paris because it was a place they always wanted to go. Or at least Chloe's family did.

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Season 3: Life is Strange

Max and Chloe return to take on a slasher horror icon. Who is it?

>>168815640
You're going to face Alice if you don't delete that image

Rachel was a very beautiful, divided young woman that didn't deserve her fate.

Poor Rachel.

Rest in peace.

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>>168817959
I'm sure she is rocking wherever she is now that her spirit's been set free.

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>>168818912
She made a lot of mistakes, which she never got the chance to apologize for in person even though she wanted to. But at least she helped and guided Max.
Giving Max more the power and confidence, giving Chloe closure and the life she deserves with Max, and giving Frank the clue that he can turn his life around for the better.
Maybe she even visits them from time to time. In their dreams or just appearing in photos. Even if she is now at peace.

>>168818912
She's rocking six feet under ground haha:)

>>168818912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUhW6T5yzBQ

>>168820203
Zombie Rachel and Zombie Chloe post-sacrifice.

Who sacrificed Rachel? Hmmm.

>>168815325
It would make a good honeymoon, but the trip could put Chloe in a sour mood. The trip would remind her of William and the plans he and Joyce had.

>>168821473
I thought of their honeymoon in Manhattan. Chloe wanted to see a busy city so make it one of the busiest, and there's so much great stuff for them to see or do there.

I don't think memories of William will be a problem for Chloe anymore. She will obviously always miss and wish that he was around to see her life and family. Chloe's biggest issue was she was trying to find someone to blame for William's death and her own problems in life, but once Max helps her realize no one is to blame (And that William surviving would have meant something worse) she calms down a lot.
Chloe finally understands what Joyce was trying to tell her. She doesn't have to forget William but she has to accept he's no longer there. Things can't go back like how they used to be, but that doesn't mean the new way things are has to be terrible. It's entirely understandable that Chloe was depressed about it, but she was having problems truly moving on until Max helped her.

So, who is looking forward to play Vampyr?

>>168825257
Moi.

For the crossovers, and because Vampires are my shtick.

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>>168825257
>Vampyr

>http://www.vampyr-game.com/

>"The developer wants players to feel the weight of how killing innocent people to survive is the price of being immortal."

>Multiple endings depending on your choices you made

>You have to choose between Eating your lover and all innocent people or Drinking a monkey's blood (sacrifice urself)

>>168823516
Chloe's got that adorable 'This is mine and don't you dare try to take her from me' look

>>168825189
"Cheese!" They both look happy. Nice to see.

>>168825257
I have an interest in it. The choice system and how they're approaching the endings sounds cool and the setting is interesting. Even if the gameplay itself turns out to be generic it's not bad as long as it controls and handles properly.
Also any LiS references will be cool to find.

>>168823058
Max will relieve much of her despair, in large part by resolving what happened to Rachel and giving her the lover and confidant she'd wanted for so long. Losing her father at a young age, though, will affect her for the rest of her life in some ways. Visiting a location with such an intense connection to his memory will spur some unpleasant feelings, even if they only manifest as tearing up at the Eiffel tower thinking about how much William would've liked to see it.

>>168825257
Yep. I'm a fan of noir-ish horror and period pieces. The moral quandry will be more intense with a measure of control over the character. I'll feed on criminals and bad guys whenever possible.

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>>168825983
For some reason I think Chloe was taking the picture and Max slid below her to pay her back with a photobomb.

Friendly reminder that Warren is a cuckboy

>>168827385
Cuck is a silly word.

It implies that he was ever with Max to begin with, or that he should have been as a natural result of him being an available male.

>>168828637
...nom!

Did anyone else feel an eerie atmosphere in Chlloe's house?

With the serene sunlight, and the stillness punctured by the pain of the memories littering the house.

When Max opened the window, and said "I feel like the sky's going to turn red", it emphasized this overcast of apocalyptic gloom, and creepy supernatural vibes like an omen or a prophecy, like the town was radiating with a calm that betrayed its warning buzz.

>>168827770
>as a natural result of him being an available male.
How could she resist his massive four inch penis, testosterone fueled love of esoteric films and supreme masculine mastery of potassium pouring?

>>168828637
Now I want some pancakes.

>>168829582
There was an atmosphere to it. I think it had to do with knowing Max knows that house but it changed a lot since she last saw it. both in occupants and in appearance.
It seems to have a haze in it from the smoke or dust but over time it will clear away. perhaps a metaphor for the Price/Madsen family.

Just want to let you guys know that I'm glad you're all still around.

Hang in there till Season 2.

>>168830532
Any actual word about season 2 though?

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I think that eerie layer and buzz was there in the atmosphere of most scenes.

I'm not sure whether it was more pronounced in Chloe's house, I just think it was a particularly nostalgic place, like it is stuck in time, an isle outside of time. With the indistinct surroundings and fimilar insides, almost like a snow globe in a way.

But that and the number of weird things (such as some of Max's lines, the bird goings on in and around their house, David's files) combined to make that supernaturalistic, apocalyptic omen and that latent feeling of urgency stand out more: because of its standing-still and secure feeling, it has this implication of time going haywire outside of its barriers, and the world falling apart around it.

What added to this for me was the trailer for Episode 3 where Max is seemingly leading a bird in the house with her rewind hand, and Chloe's "You are becoming this force of nature" line from the pool is overlayed with it.

But that's just rambling prompted by your comment; I think above all I felt the place was heavy, laced with nostalgia, but comfortably so - it felt very at home and secure and welcoming, despite David. Indeed like the fortress Chloe says it is, for her and Max. The comfort of a big ol' pillow fortress you crawl in and hide away from the world in, and Max and Chloe can do that there, seek refuge from all the bad and supernatural shit and be kind of normal girls.

But the bad and supernatural shit, and their involvement in it, does follow them there in one form or another, and so maybe it can feel more threatening precisely because, as it is supposed to feel safe and secure, it comes with the implication that you cannot run away from the bad things, that nowhere is safe and your parents cannot help it either. But again, it didn't have this threatening feeling for me. If anything, David's secrecy and the supernatural traces only added a comfortable intrigue to the place, like there's safe adventure to be had.

>>168832650
Interesting response.

For me, the dominant feelings were sadness, and a sense that my time with Chloe was coming to an end, like she could slip through my fingers and I would be powerless to help.

It almost did feel, in its urgency in the background with a still surrounding, like being in the eye of the storm.

>>168830621
Not yet though they are probably in planning stages. Multiple people from Dontnod said they're back to work and a part of their studio was blocked off when reporters were showing up to look at Vampyr.
If I had to guess I would say LiS S2 is being planned out on a storyboard and with concept art. Also discussions of gameplay elements.
Vampyr comes out late this year, LiS S2 comes out early-mid 2018.

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>>168832398
CUTE!

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>>168833778
It does have a sadness, but I'm not sure what the defining quality of that sadness is. Maybe because Chloe had also been stuck in time, stopped moving forward and growing in a sense, like her discontinued growth chart alludes to, as well as the half-painted state house. I guess it also comes from the financial troubles, the little reminders of William, the presence of David and how that feels intruding, especially from Chloe's perspective; that she didn't have a real home, a stability, somewhere she felt completely secure.

But it does have stability and security, and she does have her room and its personal feeling and sentimental objects of Max and Rachel, and she did have Joyce and we know she managed to live with David there as well. It's not a sad place, not for me and not strictly for Chloe either. For Max it is very mixed, since it summons on both light and heavy memories and feelings, but above all in the game it's just where she and Chloe are together and can concentrate on each other, so the dominant feeling for me was a nice one.

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