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Previous thread: >>168410913
Dumb fuck making a thread before the patch notes are out
>>168631547
rude
RIP amigos.
>this patch
>>168631615
It hurts.
>>168631615
REMINDER
IF YOU OWN STUFF THAT IS BEING MADE INTO LEGENDARIES YOU GET GARBAGE LIKE THIS TO REPLACE IT
RIP Drogoz
Damage from 950 to 850
Thrust bonus doesn't exist anymore
Who's the fucker that will take soar instead of wormhole?
>>168631680
Except tanks
>>168631834
50% increase damage on directs though
>no bonus damage for hitting multiple targets with fireball
just remove tanks already ffs
>>168631903
drogoz isnt about direct hits though
>>168631903
By giving up fire spit or speed. Cool.
>>168632008
if you cant hit directs you dont deserve the bonus damage
>>168631849
You were saying?
>shield cooldown from 15 to 8 and infinite duration
[VEG] I AM THE GREATEST
>>168632182
Grumpy Bomb though.
>>168632117
go direct hit a maeve
>>168632182
Yeah fucking nice, I can have a shield that will last five seconds under enemy fire, but for ever !
>>168632182
>8s cd shield
>30%+30% fireball that might be good in pve
make a third nando talent that isn't shit
WE GROHK NOW!
>>168632286
I'll eat a grumpy bomb if that saves me from getting stunned and I can just dash away and get an internal shield while I wait for my miniscule CD
I want to touch Hirezprettyhair hair.
Grohk back
GROHK STRONG
>>168632370
>MFW grohk viable
ITS NOT WORKING
Get fucked pip and torv mains
>>168632403
I want to defend him from Drybear's maniacal ravages
LET'S NOT MAKE THINGS INTERESTING
this patch is fucking hype
>mfw I'm a Grohk main
>Grohk cards
GROHKDOWNER FUCKING INVINCIBLE
Finally i can play Grohk again, he was the first champ i unlocked.
>As a Kinessa player
>cripple now roots
rest in fucking pieces maeve
Grover is the best Kinessa.
>more grover sniper
WAKE ME UP INSIDE!
>>168633032
You have to hit her first
ROOT GROVER IS THE NEW BEST GROVER!
GONNA 1 V 1 ANYONE NOW, WHERE YOU AT SKYE, WHERE YOU AT MAEVE?
>maeve's face when root+cripple grover
>>168633032
resiliance counters it
Swear to god if she doesn't get a carbine buff card
>>168633082
>WHERE YOU AT MAEVE?
Grover can't root you if you don't touch the ground.
HALLY SHET KINESSA 50 PERCENT HEADSHOT DAMAGE
oh fuck no, theres gonna be a huge influx in shitnessa's now
whats the point in tanks anymore?
>>168633352
for people who aren't fast enough to avoid being hit
>>168633082
What would grover do?
M'Koa is gonna lose bonus anchor damage to get it on legendary.
Cap this.
>>168633423
I always hit the cripple with grover but landing the next 3-4 axes is very hard, now Maeve will just get shredded if she gets hit with cripple.
>>168633467
Go cap my post from like a month ago first
>flankers exist for a reason
but do tanks do now?
>>168633467
80% was datamined
>>168633550
Datamine can't really be trusted, the Drogoz Salvo talent wasn't mentioned iirc
>>168633534
But that infinite shield that goes down in 3 shots is so cool!
Not actually that hyped. All these broken cards just means the TTK is going to be halved and some champions are going to shit on everyone else. Introducing so many drastic changes at the same time is going to result in a clusterfuck, what are they thinking?
the game is now ability based instead of skill based
>>168633876
Not all of the cards have been revealed yet, calm down nerd
>>168633876
>Move from CB to OB was just as full of changes
Rlly mkes you thnk
>>168633876
You are assuming they are thinking at all
>tfw to intelligent to pounce
>>168633982
Hasn't been skill based since the CB ended
>only possible way to deal with maeve currently is CC
>now make her immune to CC
Looks like that cripple is useless.
>Maeve can immune herself to CC now
Welp that's it
I am done
>Grover now has root guys!
What the fuck were they smoking? JewBear, what the fuck?
>>168634201
See you next week.
WE REDUCED MAEVES SPEED FROM 400 TO 399 SO THATS HUUUUUUUUGE, NOW CHECK HER OUT GUYS SHE CAN POUNCE INFINTELY XD
Maeve is still gonna be so fucking strong though isn't she.
Pounce has a cooldown of 10s now. But hitting Q while having that pounce cooldown reduction card will still let you instantly pounce someone a second time right?
Way too much DPS.
>Everyone and their mother ask Maeve to get nerfed
>Double her potential
WHAT
>>168634201
>>168634241
It's the wild wild west.
WE BARA NOW
>>168634340
Oh I forgot to mention the elimination legendary card they just talked about.
My god I fucking hate Maeve. The other legendaries so far do not seem like reliable counters (Grover's roots will probably whiff) but here's hoping.
He actually said the PTS will be up tonight, I sure hope they don't let me down AGAIN
>>168634454
HUAGH
MakoBarik now
>Makoa is Winston now
This is the first PTS I want to participate in.
How do I?
>Dread serpent made enemies take more damage but no one knew about it
lol
>>168634639
Lvl 15.
>>168634616
Winhog
>>168634797
oh didn't realize it was accessible via the default client. wouldn't make sense any other way though.
>gourd slows
>mending spirits stack
>I'll get to play Pip again without being a shit healer
Wow, this would be so good if they didn't double down on Maeve
Pip healer meta
What did Meave get exactly?
No more reason to play with frontliners.
>>168635054
>not Maldamba
>>168635020
It's like in smite, they have character that they will never nerf even if they deserved it, or that they will randomly buff even if they don't need it.
pip was already super strong as a flanker with acumen + side tanks.
the explosive flask legendary card will make it even better.
>Taking any healing legendaries when cauterize exist
>2,400 heal
>Can shit out another one instantly with the right card
>We'll still see Pips like this
Kill me now.
FINALLY COMMON SENSE
RUCKUS CAN Q OUTSIDE THE POINT
>>168635112
she can fly across the map in 10 seconds now
>>168635112
>legendaries
third jump
cd reset of pounce on elim
nine lives now
>nerf
a little slower
pounce cd from 8 to 10
holy shit ruckus is insane with the airjumps
>>168635353
lmao
Flank Ruckus is no longer a meme
>>168635353
>nine lives now
I meant nine lives now also resets CCs on you
>tfw nando main
i don't know what to do, guys
Sha Lin with shifting sands
"I AM GROWING STRONGER."
>pip can now doublejump during weightless with the legendary card
>>168635234
Wait, pip is getting a healing buff?
>>168635772
play overwatch
>>168635772
All the other tanks are damage or flanks now, Fernando is the only one that stays a tankso he is shit now
>>168635883
One of the legendary cards doubles how much he heals for when healing his team.
>>168635982
That is fucking beautiful.
When does this go live?
>Sha Lin didn't get the datamined increased knockback on impaler
Fuck, the only card that I wanted
>this skye
SAVE ME
OH MY GOD PLEASE BAN SKYE IN COMP PICKS WHEN THAT COMES ON
that's it
im done
sasuga
She's even worse than before lol
>Jizzrag buffing his favorite champion to OP god-dom
Fuck off drynut
what was skye's cards?
>field study
this game is gonna be unrecognizable
>>168636391
Preparation like it used to be
Poison bolts to be like it is now
300 bonus damage on first shot after hidden
>>168636367
who?
>>168636391
300 bonus damage on her first shot out of stealth
Cooldowns reset on kill/assist
Getting her bonus damage back from poison bolts because its gone now
They aren't good, think they also made the smoke screen base AOE biggest.
>>168636571
this game is going to be even more fucking broken than it was before.
>>168636617
Skye can reset her fucking cooldowns every elimination
yes that includes poison bolt and shit.
tyra needs a commando skin now
>>168636701
She has to actually kill them for it to take effect, no assists
>>168636701
It didn't make her good before, it wont now that all other character have great Legendaries.
>First Legendary Tyra pops Ult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SW7-8C8kL4
>>168636813
Assists also reset her cooldowns
Tyra counters flanks now it seems
>torvald bubble gives 40% more damage
>fully charged kinessa headshot is 2400
>3360 damage headshots from all ranges
I want to see this happen
>>168636701
but her poison bolt extra damage is gone
so her dps is whatever
They made it so that the hitscan damage counter the flanks
holy fuck that Hustle heal
>>168636078
Test goes up tonight apparently.
Viktor got agression based legendaries
What should I buy with my free jewcrystals?
I don't know what to get.
what exactly are legendary cards for?
is it just e-peen?
I've gotten two, on buck and kinessa.
2 tank + double heal ying meta incoming
screencap this
>>168637634
wait for this
>>168637324
250 HPS is literally nothing
It does cover his only weakness though, which is no sustain.
ALYSSA FUCK MY ASS
I don't know this stuff all sounds really broken to me.
>>168637790
It's really cool of them of them to create a Drogoz skin based off of Frieza's 3rd form
A lot of the legendary cards are just old cards from when Paladins had a good TTK, they're gonna fuck up so much shit in this bad TTK we have now
Fuck the community. Where's the new champion?
So, no new champ today?
>all these goddamn retards in PVE
I just want my jew crystals, Hirez. And Forced50 in regular modes won't let me. Why are you making this terrible
>>168637994
>>168638027
>>168638031
back to back to back champions isn't gonna happen, ob45 probably
>>168637781
>tank
I don't think so, Tim
>Genie chest gone with OB$$
now can you please give ying a good skin
>genie chest gone with OB44
good, never come back
>>168638157
Don't worry, here's the latest extremely easy PvE strat: just find a guy to queue up with, one goes max cooldown on heals Mal'Damba, the other a frontline. The fronltine buys Rejuv 3, Blast Shields, just rushes the point and shields as much as he can. Meanwhile, Mal gets Chronos 3 and lobbing Gourds and Mending Spirits from the crack in the wall onto the point.
It doesn't matter how retarded the other 3 people are, you're gonna win.
any link to full notes?
NOTES
WHERE
He'll still be viable, right?right?
So what are your initial impressions, /palg/?
It's probably best to reserve judgement, but how do you feel about things right now?
THEY MADE GROHK GOOD
HOPE YOU MOTHER FUCKERS ARE READY TO WORSHIP AT THE CHURCH OF GROHK
>>168638892
lots of legendaries are buffing burst damage and slowdown abilities.
basically this patch's mission is to make the game more annoying.
>>168638854
i'm sorry, anon. we're all still in shock.
>>168638892
time for grohk cock
in general I'd say it's okay
>>168638854
>EIGHT
>SECOND
>SHIELD
he'll be fine
>All legendaries unlocked on the PTS
>We won't get to see how much of a pain in the ass it'll be to unlock them until it goes live
>>168638854
We might not die yet amigo, but there is no point in living anymore either
>>168638854
Nope.
>PTS is down now
Holy shit, they might really do it. We could actually get the PTS tonight
Should I buy every card before the patch?
I hope they import our current live accounts because the last time we had PTS I spent all my shit to try out the valentines chest so I don't have any crystals there.
>>168639501
After you see radiant chest droprates and crafting cost maybe
>>168639209
>mfw they will probably make a double gold event when ob44 comes out to hide the terrible grind for legendaries
>>168638854
>best boy is now worst boy
>>168639597
Drybear did actually say some stuff about an event after the patch comes out. I think he said "save your gold" so they'll probably discount the radiant chest for awhile after the patch
if the grind for legendaries is real then hirez has lost a customer. i was going to ask my mom for money to buy crystals but i'm going to have her stand up to hirez on principle
>>168631728
There is a ton of stuff like that already in the game though. 2 seconds is a pretty small window. The 3 second cards makes a big difference, surprisingly.
They really need to allow stacking of certain speed effects for characters. Could make for some more interesting builds.
>>168639717
>i was going to ask my mom for money to buy crystals
underaged
get out
>>168639917
i'm 25 actually. just a NEET
>Still have to play OB43 for the crystals
>Don't want to even touch it after seeing OB44
ugh
>>168631834
Just getting rid of the bonus would have been enough I think. Spamming spit is retarded though and the masterful card needs a different effect.
>>168632286
That is some stupid retarded shit. It better not break Barik's ult at least, and they need to fix that for Skye's ult as well.
what are grohk buffs?
>>168638684
>>168639714
Until we know what drops from radiant chests in S1 and how much value you can get from them we won't know if it's wiser to save gold/chests or spend them now.
>chest discount
>they cost like 2k gold
>a card currently costs 1.2k gold
>we don't even know how much essence you get from them
>>168640029
They specifically mentioned it breaking Barik's ult
Drogoz is trash now. I was even saving daily crystals for the skin.
>>168635191
They should have nerfed the % to 25% instead of 30% and slightly less duration.
>>168638892
They made Skye worse, that's funny to think about
>>168640386
>yfw the way drybear was talking made it seem like he unironically think the new legendaries made Skye viable
anyone else experiencing tremendous amounts of lag? i just had a game where i spent 20 seconds walking out of spawn and it kept teleporting me back
>>168636151
>Making the buggiest fucker even buggier
kewl
>>168636586
I am not sure what to do with Skye. The bonus damage on Poison Bolts seems overall better than the 300 bonus damage, but that initial damage can be too to finish someone off quickly. I will probably just get all CD reset.
>>168639917
>actually believing that
>>168640676
>actually believing that I've believed that
>>168636928
jesus
>>168638027
Where are the new modes and payload maps?
>>168638351
I liked everything except the actual skin.
>>168638684
>0 damage
And I thought I knew despair.
>Drybear said PTS will be up tonight
PTS coming out on monday confirmed
>Drogoz whole set is 650 crystals
They didn't go full starslayer at least
>>168640152
FFS, it is already one of the worst fucking ults in the game. At least buff the fucking flame turret.
>>168640769
>>168640386
>>168640460
Definitely a low point of the stream. The only real buff she got from this update was the bigger smoke screen, losing her bonus damage and her less than stellar legendaries when compared to everyone else makes it feel like another nerf Skye patch.
>>168641256
What about her new regular cards? Are they any good?
>>168641438
They didn't mention any regular cards for her
maldamba changes/legendaries?
>PTS up
>Patch not out
Don't do this to me again hirez
My game crashed
- T
Tried ying, I'm not sure how I feel about her. She seems difficult and very situational.
>>168641965
you tried wrong
try again
>>168641537
Well there needs to be at least 1 new card to make up for the CD reset. Hopefully they didn't stealth fix her poison bolt reload card either, that would be awful.
i give up man
>do more damage than 2 damage champs combined
>more time on objective than everyone else combined AS FLANK
>our maeve was level 10 and enemy maeve was level 2
>potg was of maeve LITERALLY finishing off idiots who are standing completely still
>150 ping on top of all that
where do i sign up for pity victories
>>168642063
How about explaining then? Seems shes only useful at dropping her heals near people and then dropping a second and detinating mid fight and dropping another to heal.
She seems meh compared to pips mobility and burst heals.
>>168642071
Oh right, I forgot about that. They messed OB43 and put out the replacement information with the patch.
Sorry mate it ain't pretty.
>>168642085
A smurf account.
>pick godslayer
>pick power of the abyss 4
>always get free netherstep cooldown if you land itfingers
>>168642285
I don't play her that much, but why are they fucking her up so much? If you get CCed at all as Skye it is pretty much game over, even with 28% CC reduction.
What about BK?
>>168642445
The real question is if Androxus has six fingers. Is he the six-fingered man?
>>168642085
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA is correct.
I don't get dark stalker, but if they removed a bunch of CD reduction cards I could see that being good. The other 2 are just broken as fuck.
>>168642651
his Q is like Skye's ult now, destroys shields completely.
>>168640960
the patch preview demonstrated (probably accidentally) that getting the body and weapon, but not the head, barely alters the look of the skin, so that's probably the way to go if you want to save crystals
>jump hooking someone behind cover as makoa
name a better feel
>>168642968
hooking someone out of stealth
>>168642294
i need muh gems though
>>168643489
PVE's your best bet, I'm afraid.
>>168642445
>50% HS damage
I always though Andy HS damage was ridiculously high, even compared to either champions.
That thing will basically be all i'll ever use
Anyone know what his gibberish means? Google translate couldn't identify it as something spoken by humans.
>>168643735
It looks like spanish spoken by a retard
>>168643735
It's Spanish spoken by a retard.
>>168640043
>>168638684
>0 damage
>most deaths
>Higher score than 2 others
I just played a match where I think my teammates were bots.
>>168644005
>>168644317
>retard
Well, that would explain his 800 elo.
>>168644321
It's that 32 ticks of objective time.
okay this is my high-tier opinion on the legionaries. this is an autismo list of how much better a champ is because of them, scale -5 to 5
Androxus: 2
Barik: 2
Bomb King: 5
Buck: 4
Cassie: 1
Drogoz: 3
Evie: -2
Fernando: 2
Ghrok: 4
Grover: 3
Kinessa: 1
Maeve: 4
Makoa: 3
Mal'Damba: 3
Pip: 3
Ruckus: 2
Sha Lin: 2
Skye: 5
Torvald: 4
Tyra: 5
Viktor: 5
Ying: 3
feel free to debate anything, mayb ill make a list of the general best legendary cards next
>>168644456
I know, but that doesn't make it any less hilarious.
>>168644480
>my english is retarded
list was made quick so some things may be off or not considered
>>168644437
What's your elo have to be at to have a 800 on your team?
>>168644480
I don't understand.
>>168644628
1,700. Not great, I know, but come the fuck on.
>>168644690
>skye sucks right now
>oh there's a 5 she got a huge buff
>>168642170
both heal illusions out at the same time heals at an insane rate
>>168644829
>tfw had around 2100 elo
>got paired with a group whose highest was just under 1400
>enemy team's lowest was 1700
pts is up
is the PTS client supposed to spend ages downloading each version/update of the game? it started at 33 or something and has made it's way up to 37.
>salvo drogoz on payload
>get morale boost 3 ASAP
>gun down squishies left and right
>ult the solo ruckus so many times he just gives up and stands still whenever he hears me coming to fist him
I actually feel kinda dirty after that. I wonder if the bonus damage on DH legendary will apply to salvo, it already benefits from main weapon status effects like life leech
>>168645291
yep it takes forever. have to go all the way to 44 lol
my ELO is 2700 on my smurf and has remained that high for awhile does that make me good
>>168644480
what the fuck kind of scale goes from -5 to 5, regardless of what that means it's wrong because you put Bomb King and Skye in the same tier
>>168645548
yea i would take down bk to 4 probably but deleting all shields can be fucking ridiculous. torv, koa, ruckus, and nando beware.
I would like to take this moment to mention how ridiculous his Makoa's Half Shell talent is on paper. 16s cooldown on Shell Shield. With Barrier Reef 4, and people destroy it, that's -8s. Then with Choronos 3, that's another -4.8s. Since it's no longer channeled, the cooldown ticks away as it's deployed. This means, if your team is turtled up and enemy is forced to shoot it down, if they don't destroy it in under every 3.2s, you basically have a permanent indestructible shield, and you can move around and do other things during it. The counter to that is to not shoot it, but then if you have Ancient Resolve 4, that gives you 6 seconds to do whatever you want to the enemy team.
>>168645017
>heals an insane rate
worthless when you have a team who does no damage.
>>168631615
Señor, I will never forget you.
>BK can take the whole shield from Torvald by pressing Q
Literally unplayable, you mas as well throw the match if you get matched up against a BK. Almost the same with Barik, he can even fuck up your ult by pressing Q.
>>168645548
negatives because ppl like evie got nerfed...
What is the wisest way to spend crystals and gold as a new player? Gold for champs Crystals for Radiant Chest?
FAST DROGOZ IS BEAST
>>168646779
don't ever spend crystals on anything you can get with gold is really the only requirement
>>168646779
Save crystals for skins you really want or counter jew and wait for skins to go on sale
>>168646272
Oh boi the last stretch
>>168647097
I don't care much about cosmetics, net yet at least. And it seems if I wanted to buy everything with gold it will take a lot of time.
Rarity - Cost
Common - 500
Rare - 1250
Epic - 5000
Legendary - ???? (They're all unlocked on PTS)
Can't currently buy chest with gold and they didn't import new accounts so I don't have any crystals to see how much you get out of a chest.
>>168647357
Buying a champ and playing them for like 5 or 6 matches has them pay or nearly pay for themselves, buy cards for the characters you like and save the gold for radiants this coming patch.
>>168647357
I'd say champions + cards would take 60-70 hours of playtime with gold only
It took me 100-ish because here and there i spent some gold on some gold-purchasable skins
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?29755-Open-Beta-44-Patch-Notes-February-17th-2017
>most of those 'fabled' talents are just old abilities or bonuses worded out in slightly different way
Am I supposed to be excited?
Very useful descriptions guys
>>168647697
>Loadout cards now have a rarity - ranging between Common, Rare, and Epic.
What?
Also if its diferent to the 4 ranks why the 3 ranks dont have different names, thats just common sense
>>168647697
>Gain 10/20/30/40% Movement Speed for 2s after using Nether Step
What is the point of this garbage card? Who the fuck uses Nether Step on the ground?
>>168648226
They literally have the same description in the patchnotes
sasuga lo res
think i'm gonna be playing fernando nonstop now
while there's still time
>>168647697
>Fernando: Dire Need Reworked
>Gain 5/10/15/20% Movement Speed during Shield.
>no more shields for your allies
Please kill me now, I would like to join my husband Fernando in heaven asap.
who is inara and those other 2 characters it shows for me in the PTS?
>>168648226
i mean, they did talk about how theyre not putting up the whole description for the architectonics because its like 3 stats but it basically buff their health, makes them hitscan, and buffs damage
>>168647697
Mal Damba
Dread Serpent
No longer causes enemies to take 20% increased damage.
Legendary Cards
Wekono’s Wrath
Dread serpent causes enemies to take 20% increased damage.
They didnt even listed that card 2nd or 3rd they just had to directly show it like that as a fuck you
>>168649076
Lawman/Inara confirmed.
NEW CHAMPS WILL BE NAMED IRANA AND ORACLE
>>168649419
green oracle; orange lawman; purple irana
Can you pick them or see their skills?
>>168649925
no skills yet, but oracle has a ying skin. I think it's the barrier tank and maybe even a female tank
>>168650101
cancel that. just saw that oracle will be a support. irana is the barrier tank and lawman is flank
>nerfing Dread Serpent without dumb card
>nerfing Net Shot without dumb card
>nerfing Spitfire
>nerfing Dredge Anchor without dumb card
>trashing fernando
>nerfing Thrust
>BK's legendaries
Hope they bring back the bonus damages on these abilities and not reselling it as legendaries
Legendary Cards were a mistake.
>>168647465
Legendaries will probably cost 10000 Drybearjizz, let's pretend that every duplicate give you half its cost and you get mostly common cards you will need 3000*[10000/(250*4)]=30000 gold to unlock a legendary card
member Cassie?
member Androxus?
>>168648410
movement speed affects air speed actually, thats why nimble is a good card for drogoz
also its a vry good move to nether step into the ground because you have more acceleration to adadad strafe. in the air you're vulnerable.
despite all of this 2 seconds isn't that good tho maybe with extra dashes its alright. deceleartion from that 2sec wearing off might be bad for your aim. overall its an interesting card
Good run, see you guys next week when the update goes live!
Oh, patch is done downl-
>game is down
What the FUCK
ANYONE WHO PLAYED THE PTS, HOW DO YOU GET ESSENCE?
(the new currency to buy cards). did hirez fuck it up so you can't get essence right now?
>>168651085
new unfinished champs were in and playable
hi rez probably panic pulled the plug
LOL
What legendaries look like on the score screen, you can't hover over them to see what the card does.
>>168651140
>did hirez fuck it up so you can't get essence right now?
Yes
>servers are shit
>matchmaking is shit
>balance is shit
>talents are either shit or op
>Fernando is now shit too
I will check the new patch, but I think that I'm done with Paladins.
Female frontliner confirmed.
>>168651521
yes, barrier earth mage irana.
>>168651229
Huh. Any vids?
>Ice block is garbage if you don't have the card to heal while using it
>Wormhole is too core to pass up
>>168651521
>>168651569
What if the barriers count as deployable instead of shield? Everyone wasting money on Wrecker would be funny.
>>168651140
You get Essence from dupe cards when opening Radiant Chests.
>>168651236
Ain't they cheeky.
I want to make a character called Drybear and have him eliminate characters named 'Balance', 'Fun' and 'Paladins'.
>>168651229
Playable? Somebody has to have video or pictures.
>>168651732
>barrier is a deployable
>BK can't oneshot it with grumpy
Nah, it would require things like Hi-rez not hating tanks, and it will never happen.
Also, Barik's shield is 'deployed' too in some way, but it still counts as shield.
>>168651745
but you're supposed to be able to buy radiant chests with gold and you can't do that on pts, im fairly sure
>>168638892
Drogoz lost so much to get his cards.
>Grohk legendaries
is drogoz losing the knockback from fire spit explosion really a nerf? id imagine some players wont know what hit them and where from and its a guaranteed 2000k damage
>>168638892
I'm excited for the legendary cards
PTS keeps getting an error "unable to change to requested map" for me, was working fine before they took it down.
>>168647465
Rarity - Essence for duplicate
Common - 60
Rare - 250
Epic - 1250
Legendary - ????
I spent 25k gold and got 2740 spirit
okay you can buy essence on PTS. here's the breakdown:
3000 gold for a radiant chest. i bought 20 chests and got just about 10k essence. you average 500 essence per chest at the level of unlocks I am (it might be different for a new player vs old player, not sure). so the conversion is
1 essense costs 6 gold.
when some cards cost 5k essense, this means that those cards now cost 30k gold. WTF?!
>>168652651
Which aren't very good either. His damage got nerfed twice in the same patch.
Speed card isn't fast enough and you give up damage and fire spit. The guy showing it was even using maxed wyrm jets.
Direct hit damage bonus looks bad, it's really hard to land a direct hit as Drogoz and you have to be really close while also being slow.
Fire spit is good and probably the only usable.
>>168653438
So, what do I need to buy before the patch?
>>168652350
You are able to do so now, it was disabled before PTS went down I think
The introduction of legendaries is great.
Now instead of just arguing over which character is the best/worst we can also argue over which legendary is the best/worst.
removal of legendary cards and restoring of the natural order when
all of this was a mistake
there are many things that need to be erased
>>168653563
Anything that's not terrible.
Protip: CC reduction and 7-8% speed bonus are complete shit
These legendary cards are going to fuck shit up so hard.
>>168653438
But, dude! What about those people who've been playing for-fucking-ever non-stop and don't have stuff to spend their 2 million gold on?! That's what most people are at, right?
Do Radiant Chest still drop skins, emotes and poses?
>buck has shitty dps
probably
felt good though.
is the patch gonna drop next friday or is there no confirmed date yet
i need to prepare for the coming storm
>>168653956
Demolition a shit, A SHIT!
>>168654164
emotes, poses, voice packs. Haven't gotten a skin yet
>>168654006
Greater meaningful customisation is good. It's one of the main things that sets Paladins apart from Overwatch.
The sole issue is that it adds even more things that will need to be balanced.
p2w
>>168654342
Nice. So for S1 we should save every radiant chest but spend the gold on cards because they are more expensive if you convert gold to essence.
>Maeve nerfs
>She's low key getting buffed
>some champions like Cassie, Pip or Nando have to get their legendaries to be as good as they've used to, maybe slightly better
>other, like Maeve and Andro can only get better with their legendaries because no perks were taken from them
Just remember to stay grouped so Maeve can't pick you as a separate target and Androxus can shot that ulti or reversal straight into your group, killing you all at once.This is fucking bullshit.
>W.Y.R.M. Jets
>Reworked
>Renamed to Apex Predator
>Gain 7/14/21/28% Crowd Control Reduction
You can't combo speed leggo with this
>Spitfire
>Decreased Cooldown Reduction from .5/1/1.5/2 to .25/.5/.75/1s for every shot hit.
More nerfs
They need to balance all of this shit.
I guess I can appreciate the cleaning up of all the bonus damage, but god fucking damn.
>>168653449
Nerfing base rocket damage and removing thrust bonus means you've lost about 1/4 of your damage right there. With Fusillade you're barely doing more than before, and that's only on a direct hit.
I feel like they'll have to revert the nerf to rocket damage, at least.
>>168653449
>>168655206
>drogoz can no longer 2 shot evies or maeves without a special legendary card even if they don't buy blast shields
why
>>168653956
The only good one is the aerial assault on Ruckus, the jetpack one.
Rest is shit and should have never happened.
>be 10 levels lower than random
>have 700 more elo than him
how do they do it
>>168655405
level # has a stronger correlation with play time rather than player skill
>>168655602
that's my point, how do shitters stay shit even at level 72 with easily over 300 hours
>>168655797
I'm scared to see what the high ELO players do with these abilities
>>168653563
you might want to buy every card in the game. don't buy just anything that's not terrible because cards can change in the future. my current numbers suggest the most expensive cards cost over 26 times more than on the live servers, and NO CARD is cheaper. the cheapest cards are 500 essence which is about 3k gold, like 3x the amount on live servers.
the most hilarious and horrifying thing about all of this is that full flank + damage teams are very likely going to be a thing
what's the point of a frontliner (or in certain circumstances, even a healer) when all of this +50% headshot damage fuckery and the like makes the TTK pretty fukken high and makes it something more ability based then skill based
>>168631903
I came. I consistently direct people as Drogoz, even Maeves. Started playing this game a week ago, my skill from TF2 & Tribes translates over really well. Direct Hit Soldier & Bolt Launcher feel very similar to the projectile speed on his RL.
>>168656381
If Maeve knows what they're doing they'll stay well out of your effective range, though.
>>168656426
>>168656381
maeves are a fucking nightmare to fight as drogoz though
even with the dh i was good at hitting scouts but maeve is like a scout with soldier health
someone give me a quick rundown on essence
>Kinessa clicking heads for 2400 without ult
Alright Drybear
>>168656723
>>168647465
>>168653260
when i launched PTS earlier today i wasn't able to buy any of the cards i wanted to use because i had none of that craft currency bullshit
i am mad
So is Evie dead
>>168657010
no
fernando is though
may he rest in peace
>>168656334
>TTK pretty fukken high
you mean low?
Why is Fernando slowed when using his weapon when Grohk/Torvald aren't? Makes him feel clunky and unresponsive
be 100% honest do you think this game is going to be done for even after they try to balance the legendaries
Game feels about 1000% faster and harder
>>168656785
so I should spend my mountain of gold on cards. got it.
>>168657290
Because they wanted to kill him
>>168657389
this game will be done if they keep pushing this grind to win system where a legendary cost 30k gold at average
>be kinessa
>log out
>let the bot do all your work for you since they have aimbot
>get reported for cheating after the match
>>168657389
no, hopefully
it'll be armageddon for a few weeks with everyone figuring out which legendaries are good and shit and frontliners being picked maybe 35% of the time
they'll hear the skeletons rattling in the closet, then they'll do some tinkering to fix it. maybe.
this is low rez we're talking about
>i'll just hop on and win a quick 3 matches tee hee
2 and a half hours fucking later
>Nando's legendary didn't make his shield to work like Reinhardt's
Come on man
>>168657290
Torvald is slowed while using his weapon
>>168657389
If the card unlocking stays this bad yeah it's done
>>168658013
>wanting the pure cancer that is rein to infect paladins
>>168658082
Yeah sure
>>168658082
how is large german bad when it comes to his shield? not trying to be snarky, just haven't played ow in awhile and the only thing that i thought was cancerous about rein is the godawful 3/4 tank + healer meta he was always in
lmao
>>168632370
>>168632520
he already was with this broke ass build (Grohk main), everyone uses shit totem builds on him though.
damage grohk will be bonafide broken this patch and people will bitch and whine
>>168632370
>>168632439
>>168632516
>>168632520
>>168632602
>>168632603
>>168632678
>>168632839
>>168638952
>>168639098
REJOICE
>>168640040
Grohk Legendaries (you can only choose one)
>1: RMB has it's cooldown reduced by a sec or some shit every time you tick someone with LMB, and bounces up to 4 extra times between enemies.
Incredibly broken for Grohk players that are actually capable of tracking targets well with low sensitivity and leading the orb. I'm gonna have fun, because I run damage grohk with pic related.
>2: Totem now completely disables CC to all units (including Grohk inside of it)
This is the way to go if you play him as a support. He is now officially not trash as a support.
>3: Grohk gets a free ghost walk and 50% of his max HP as "ghost HP" (shown as a grey healthbar to enemies) when he would have otherwise died normally, doesn't interfere with actual Ghost Walk CD.
If Gale IV and Haunting IV still exist, then this is a trashcan tier card. If Gale IV and Haunting IV do not exist anymore, this could be considered powerful.
>>168658370
I'll probably go for two loadouts as with Pip: Offensive with a Pulse legendary and Supportive with a Totem legendary. It's gonna be easy transitioning with the Totem legendary since my main loadout focuses of Totem spam.
>>168658347
This perfectly resumes the entire patch
>>168658347
Doesn't this kinda make the game pay to win?
I thought they were gonna do legenedaries similar to their old way. Like its the card loadout system but legendaries take up a large slot amount
>>168658290
his shield was really powerful plus being able to pull it up with no cooldown is really it
>Fernando: 5,500 health, 8,000 shield
>Reinhardt: 500 health, 2,000 shield
if you map those directly (not really how it ought to be done because time to kill is so different between the games and health is much more standardized in OW than in Paladins) then Reinhardt ported into Paladins to be like Fernando would have like ~5,000 health and ~20,000 shield
imagine having a Barik ult you could bring out whenever you wanted
>>168659010
Jewbear wouldnt do that.
>>168658290
>snarky
You might as well put on a trip, you are the only person who uses that term here.
>>168659120
you forgot to count in wrecker.
so how do legendaries work? I didn't watch the patch notes. do they take points in loadouts?
>>168659010
Nope, not p2w. Right now you can argue that it's "pay to not grind as much".
>>168659257
Separate thing you choose at the start of the match before your loadout. Loadouts are still the same.
>>168658370
but where is the % healing in that build?
Buck is completely broken
>>168659330
>Nope, not p2w. Right now you can argue that it's "pay to not grind as much".
What did he mean by this
>>168659120
>pip
>plus wrecker
>1500 damage a shot to Fernado
>6 rounds
>shield is down before he has to reload
>junkrat
>120 damage a shot
>takes 17 shots
>>168659435
I believe the millenials use the term "pay to convenient".
>>168659330
It's literally the same thing as league of legends. Pay to not spend literal hundreds of hours. Aka pay to win. Do not defend this.
>>168659357
% healing doesnt effect grohk himself (only allies) so it's a waste of a card slot if you're playing damage grohk.
when I play support I just do the same thing but with Healing Rain II instead of Phantom II.
>>168659679
>hundreds of hours
kys
>Skye's cooldown reset card doesn't reset emergency exit
Almost thought she actually got something out of this patch, whoops
>want to buy all legendaries
>need essence
>essence is rare as fuck from radiants
>radiants are buyable with gold
how is this not pay to win retard?
>>168659357
Nah, that card is garbage. You can work out the math for it even.
>>168659679
Oh, I'm not. In fact, this breaks the economy without some adjusting. It's likely they were that stupid and actually balanced gold spending around the no-lives that play the game non-stop and have a billion gold left over. But it's still "technically" not P2W.
>>168659986
crystals*
Survival is much funner than the other modes but it's too short and I wish they'd make a mode like bomb from CS.t. drogoz
>get wrecked despite the enemy team being absolute shit
>spectate teammates while dead
>makoa is flanking
>kinessa is just walking around
>androxus is outside our spawn dashing into walls and lagging out
????????????????????????????
>>168660105
It is quite literally pay to win. You can pay money to get an advantage in gameplay over someone who doesn't pay. Just because you can eventually scrape together the in game currency needed after grinding to get the same thing doesn't make it not pay to win.
Don't make me say it again.
Do not defend this.
>>168660217
nothing out of the ordinary
>>168659986
People asked for this, people wanted to have something to spend the excessive gold on, and now people are getting exactly what they asked for, just not exactly what they wanted.
>>168656552
>>168656426
salvo and spit work pretty well against her
you can also get a free shot right after she pounces you
>>168660491
cosmetics were probably something they had in mind and cosmetics would be a shit ton more better then this. more gold cards, more recolors, potg intros, profile icons, anything other then buying shit that can give you an ingame advantage over someone.
>PTS -STILL- hasn't updated player progress so I -STILL- have literally jack shit and can't do anything at all
For FUCKS SAKES IT'S SEASON 1 PTS, UPDATE YOUR SHIT YOU NIGGERS
>>168660361
...are you this dense? I never defended it. I even said they're idiots if they keep it like that.
>>168661243
You're defending it by not admitting that it's pay to win, which it clearly is.
You dumb niggers will still play this game after this.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm dropping it.
>someone instalocks evie
>spends the entire game standing still somewhere far from the point and shooting at it
why
why do people do this
her kit isn't that hard to understand
>>168661363
Fuck off and die then
I would've preferred them removing bonus damage entirely over throwing it onto legendaries. I didn't hate the bonus damage mechanics, but moving them to legendaries just feels lazy to me. Are there even any champions that would take their old bonus damage stuff over their other legendaries? I'm drawing a blank here
>>168659358
Weird. Somebody in the last thread said he was completely redundant.
>>168661429
At least I'll die happy instead of cucked by a company who gives less of a shit about me than the average 12 year old with mommy's credit card.
Faggot.
dark days ahead
>>168661713
BK comes to mind,
>>168662776
>picking that over erasing shields
Okay, Just because the Elo balances out when you divide by 5, does not mean the game is balanced...
>>168663579
>not buiyng wrecker
>enemy has ying, torvald and barik
>lose
really makes you THINK huh
>>168663789
Welcome to 2k ELO, your fun is over.
>>168663579
>implying anyone is going to be playing FL anymore
>Implying anyone who does is still going to stand anywhere near Grumpies with a shield up
>>168663896
The match was like watching from the same team as bots.. They kept running in the exact same direction, 3 exits and they always dived the bottom one.
>Peekaboo Makoa to get him low
>Run into the open
>He hooks me and I get a guaranteed kill on him point blank
>Boost out to safety
Every single 1v1 with Makoa, it never fails. I've had good players do the same thing as well, is it just a reaction they can't control?
>>168657560
You mean like the past many patches?
>>168663896
>>168664153
And it got worse... Well I'm done for tonight.
Why aren't you all playing Barik?
>>168665320
Because I already got my 3 wins for the day so I'm not playing any champion.
>>168664576
Goodluck getting hooked at 2k elo, everyone is going to rain their abilities on you once they hear the hook sound.
>>168662527
Hate how much skins they hide in chests in Smite.
>Pixie thinks Ying is a better waifu than Maeve
lol(?)
>>168660850
they did that in smite and people still didn't want to spend their favor (smite's gold) on them.
>>168665904
Never forget
>>168665732
But she's right.
Maeve is a filthy slut and everyone hates her.
>>168658082
reinhardt is ironically the only thing keeping overwatch together and is considered the perfect example of balance
>>168664143
>Implying anyone who does is still going to stand anywhere near Grumpies with a shield up
So they either leave the point free for me to cap or put their shield cooldown
Sounds good to me
>>168667646
that's a pretty good impression of the average bronze redditor, well done anon
people bitching about drogoz got the best duder in the game nerfed.
mfw
>Okay so we removed bonus damage and other stuff from cards and need new ones to replace them, what should we do?
>Dude just make them all CC reduction lmao
sasuga lo-rez
>be playing drogoz on survival
>dominating everything in sight
>competent andro starts playing
>absolutely no chance, get shrekt every engagement
tell me again why the guy with the hitscan gets more mobility than the guy with the slow moving projectiles
ruckus is probably going to be my main now
he seems fun as fuck being mobile like that
>>168668465
don't complain about your intended role goy
more to the point, don't complain when you play a lo rez game
you chose this
So. How viable is Ying in the current meta?
I have heard that Mal outheals her, but I have yet to see an instance where that is true... Aside from ELO hell.
>>168668836
You need really good aim and awareness, you need to abuse your infinite heal range.
>>168668836
she's pretty viable
illusions are the best way to keep your frontlines alive during a fight, and she can deal respectable damage by herself
>>168668923
>>168668932
So... I have been playing her wrong I guess?
I tend to keep my illusions on the tank at all times, sometimes luring flankers to attack me and switch at the last moment, so they are sandwiched between 2 insanely fast illusions.
what's a fwotd?
Sige/payload
Comp
and PvE?
whoever said to play ruckus in payload, fucking bless you
easiest 2 wins ive ever had, and both had a makoa + healer on me
even pesky maeves couldnt do anything
>>168669827
>ruckus+makoa + healer
This breaks game
>>168669706
first win of the day
>>168669706
Any 3 wins, it's called "first win of the day" because hi-rez can't into english
>>168668465
Because hirez has no idea what to do with hitscan.
Is anyone else getting serious fps drops in the pts?
Also reminder to buy all the cards you need now since the card/essence ratio is shit
>Nando is trash now
>Barik is still trash
>Torvald is a support who will get trashed because his personal shield is useless now.
This needs to be fixed.
Should I buy a fancy gun for Pip with my 260 crystals or save them in case future chests have good looking Pip stuff?
to everyone who played as / against nuke king
do you feel that the legendary should be nerfed?
>>168672440
I'm not playing the PTS but a character is not balanced if it can shut down your Fernando/Barik/Torvald every 8 seconds. Even less if the BK buys Chronos.
>>168669706
>queue for PVE
>Viktor: "are they bots?"
>"why?"
>"what's pve?"
I wonder if some of the people I'm playing with are literally 10 years old.
>>168673326
Yep, a lot of people are too dumb to play PvE. Not being able to change characters is one thing I like about Paladins, but in the PvE it means idiots can't even try to improve after thinking Evie was what you needed to counter those bucks.
>try to pve
>kinessa picker
>actually contributes by luring all the bucks over the edge by camping behind the tower, scores a quadra kill with mines
i was pleasantly surprised
>Our team has Buck and Maeve
>They play at Kinessa range and never go after the Drogoz that destroys our frontline
Why the fuck the flankers are always the retards
This game is such fucking trash now.
why the fuck did they do it /palg/
BUY EVERY CARD
ESSENCE RATES CONFIRMED FOR P2W
I'm going to miss doing that bonus damage with the mirror, but I can't justify wasting a legendary card for it. I can't decide on the other two though. A shatter essentially every five seconds sounds good, but healing two people at once is also pretty good.
Anyone that played the PTS have any thoughts?
>>168674976
>near death teleport to a location where your illusion was with full health, triggers every minute
done
> Team ignores enemy Viktor
> "This Viktor is fucking insane, we just can't kill him"
> Team had Pip, Grover, and Makoa
>>168675124
Sounds like it would just explode where it is, so it won't chase the enemy. So a lot of those explosions might not actually hit anything, but I guess if you throw enough around, something is bound to hit.
>>168675756
what are you talking about
i mean near your death, you would switch places with an illusion or where an illusion existed
and youll have full health
dum dum
>>168675870
Shatter explosion happens when an illusion is destroyed, just the explosion so it won't chase people. You seem to think just teleporting fully heals you though. Not sure what you're going on about.
>Can spit combo with salvo now that there's no knockback
FEMALE FRONTLINER W H E N?
I KNOW YOU HAVE HER JEWBEAR
>>168676154
WAIT FOR IRANA
>>168676086
im talking about a third legendary
the thing you mentioned
which would replace the focusing lens
god damn youre pretty thick
>Skye getting dumpstered even harder
>actually nerfing her after introducing Maeve
>Drybear is a Kinessa main
Makes you think.
>>168676091
exactly what i was thinking
people arent gonna get pushed
which means braindeads who stand still and clump up will die for sure
the push force removal was a massive buff
with the legendary it will probably give drogoz the ability to land easy team wipes
>>168676331
So you're just making up your own shit. Why is everyone that plays this game so retarded? I pray I never see you in any of my games.
>>168676440
im making an idea
you said the legendary was a waste of slot
i gave my opinion what it should be replaced by
instead of catching on all you said "ur idea is dumb lolololo"
i also dont want numbskulls who cant think straight in my games
>>168676306
>Tfw have to wait at least 2 weeks till Jewbear stops jerking off and releases Irana
Which Makoa legendary is best? I like being able to nuke squishies with the bonus damage, but the others are also pretty appealing.
>>168677327
tanks are trash in new season
>>168677327
Solo tank? Halfshell. Otherwise dredge anchor damage
>>168677453
No, just Nando will be garbage.
> I'm solo Torvald
> Our Pip refused to ult the whole game
> Drogoz missed all of his ults
> Maeve couldn't kill the enemy Kinessa
> Our Kinessa was constantly dying to Skye
>We still won
>>168677724
the matchmaking in this game is really, really good
>>168677585
Is leviathan just not worth it?
>>168678363
The shield can be up pretty much at all times if you build for it, and if you have two or more tanks there's no need for you to take more health over more damage. Only thing I can see it used for is flankoa against a decent team, and even then it's hard to see a reason to take it over bonus dredge damage
Wait retards actually think Maeve has NO defensive abilities? Shit ALL of her abilities are defensive (and also offensive, lol)
>insane speed
>great damage
>cooldown reset ability (which you can lower the cooldown of via card)
>self heal
Who the fuck designed Maeve?
>Favorite champs are sha lin and pip
Am I a fag?
>>168679673
yes, all you're missing is maeve and you have the triforce of faggotry
So whats the range of elo hell for this game?
>>168679673
> Favorite champs are Grohk and Mal Damba
how do I bomb king, /palg/?
How do they do it?Bomb King is me
>essence
>cancer rune system from LoL
>tfw you haven't played for 3 patches
Will Irana be a qt musclegirl or a qt knight?
It seems the order for new champs will be
>OB 45 will be Irana
>OB 46 will be Oracle/Lawman
>OB 47 will be probably a new skin for Easter
>OB 48 will be Oracle/Lawman
Unless Drybear fucks something up or changes the order, this will probably be what will be in the next patches.
Can someone take a screenshot of all champions' cards in the PTS? I want to buy all the epic and rare cards.
The essence cost for the cards are retardedly high, wtf HiRez.
>>168672429
Get discombobulator, it's the best looking weapon in a game.
>>168676154
>Waiting for a release of FRONTLINER after 'no frontliners allowed' patch that is ob 44
She is gonna be shit, we can assume this already.
>>168679670
Hi-Rez Martini. If you ever see him again in patch preview it means that another extra broken champion is coming.
I'm bullying children on the internet and there's nothing you can do to stop meI wish this game would stop matching me with much lower elo people on either my or the other team
>>168683632
she doesn't rely on shields so there might still be hope for her.
>>168683841
interneting is hard
>>168683632
She seems to be like Ymir gameplay wise.
She's not dependent on shields, and the slow on her walls seem to be a good thing if you know how to use them.
She seems to be a secondary tank, with her walls being kind of like Barik's shield, and her spears doing somewhat decent damage.
She's basically Ymir but female, somebody that knows how to use her walls and slows properly will dominate.I hope that allies can shoot through her walls or walk though her walls, because if they can't, people will start blocking paths with her wall like how Mei does.
Hopefully Jewbear won't fuck her up.
>>168683797
was he the one narrating the patch preview with MAEVE IS THE BEST AT EVERYTHING
>>168683257
seconding this
>>168683841
>>168683936
You can't get matchmade WITH low ELO shitters if there's no room left on your team :^)
>>168631837
>Soar legendary
It gives you essentially two movement abilities at 4 seconds each. Wormhole is great for in-combat mobility (especially when it gives you dmg boost), but if you want to be uncaughtable threat that is all over the map, soar is a way to go.
WHAT
>Dire Need
>Reworked
>Gain 5/10/15/20% Movement Speed during Shield.
WHAT?!
THIS IS THE STUPIDEST FUCKING
FFFFFFF
>>168684506
Sleep tight, sweet prince.
>s01 patch preview
>not a single word on any kind of elo reset
?????
>>168683918
>>168683982
One of her abilities is gonna be useless anyway if enemy has a BK with demolition. Or if you have a champion that can just jump or fly over the wall. And since she's a frontliner class she is probably going to be very slow with low damage.
Jewbear being a Kinessa main explains why Skye lives in the dumpster far too well, he got sick of Skyes killing him because he barely moves.
Skye is now worse than Loki, playing her in OB44 is a waste of a slot, even the best Skye gets shutdown by anybody.
>>168685545
She fires 3 projectiles that deal 350 damage each over 0.6, every .6 seconds. That's 1050 damage every .6 seconds.
Her damage seems decent.
>>168685820
>Jewbear's Kinessa couldn't handle Flanknando too
>Flanknando goes into trash too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0aS3zRx_JY
>>168686426
Oh god, why did I watch it.
I was having a relatively good Saturday, now it's gone.
since I didn't see a link
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?29755-Open-Beta-44-Patch-Notes-February-17th-2017
>>168687313
You could have literally just Ctrl+F'd the very link you posted and find >>168647697 but hey, thanks sharing.
>Are you planning on creating animations that will expand on the lore?
>Question not answered
Sasuga Low-rez
Okay what is up with the game on Saturdays
Every single fucking Saturday I can't win a single fucking game
Other days are completely fine, but Saturdays are literally hell
>>168686426
>>168688467
Game has more shitters to pair you with. It's no longer one random potato with 1400 elo in your team it's 4 of them.
>Cassie wants me to babysit her as Ying
>Our Androxus doesn't know how to play Androxus
>Enemy Tyra is aimbotting
I want to die
>>168686426
lmao
Full time /v/irgin here. What's the opinion on the new patch?We finally dead like tribes now?
>>168689486
Some champs are living garbage now (Skye), some are fun (Grohk), and instead of getting nerfed they got buffed (Maeve).
Irana seems to be a qt frontliner, but now frontliners are dead.
>tfw buying cards for champs that you haven't bought yet
WHICH CARDS DO I BUY?
>>168690076
Everything that looks kinda useful and you can use in a deck focused around that ability.
>>168655602
>>168655797
Isn't ELO influenced by win/lose?
>>168690373
SORRY, I MEAN WHAT CARDS ARE GOING TO BE RARE/EPIC?
>Have to win one more match to get my last 30 jewcrystals
>Keep losing
>>168690076
Dude just buy all the cards you can afford, from what I've heard Essence prices are super high for every card
>>168691110
OH DAMN. THANKS DUDE
>>168691197
Or search youtube, I'm sure some eceleb faglord has already made a video on card prices on the test server
>>168691110
>>168691197
more appropo to buy the ones that are retard expensive.
Essence prices:
Epic 5000
Rare 1250
Common 500
Duplicates:
Epic 1250
Rare 250
Common 60
Smells like grindy bullshit
These are the cards shown as epic on the PTS, buy these first. As an indicator of how important this is, commons are worth 500 essence, rares are worth 1250 essence and epics are worth 5000 essence.
Maeve:
Patch Up
Shred
Chase
Androxus:
Power of the Abyss
Abyss Walker
Sleight of Hand
Barik:
Field Deploy
Healing Station
Palisade
Bomb King:
Countdown
Air Blast
Jolt
Buck:
Giga Siphon
Bully
Seismic Wave
Cassie:
Territorial
Incitement
Onslaught
Drogoz:
Masterful
Survival
Hot Swap
Evie:
Flicker
Teleport
Swift Witch
Fernando:
Heat Transfer
Last Stand
Safe Travel
Grohk:
Healing Rain
Thunderstruck
Phantom
Grover:
Gentle Breeze
Verdant Expanse
Chop Down
Kinessa:
Well Stocked
Open Season
Restore
Mal'Damba:
Possession
Swift Spirits
Snake Pit
Pip:
Gift Giver
Reload
Side Tanks
Ruckus:
Metal March
Refraction
Fuel Reserves
Sha Lin:
Quick Sand
Run Them Down
Run Like The Wind
Skye:
Nimble Fingers
Cloak
Victory Rush
Torvald:
Timeshaper
Vital Grasp
Scribe's Wit
Tyra:
Quick Release
Hunting Season
Locked and Loaded
>>168691428
Missed one
Makoa:
Barrier Reef
Strongarm
Spring Tide
>>168691548
>>168691428
http://imgur.com/a/Gfs3E
>>168691308
I don't understand this.
Do i have to buy all the cards again with essence or what?
>>168691308
>>168691428
THANKS BOYS
>>168691997
No, buy the ones that cost the most now with gold so you can stick it to dryjizz' fucking faggot face and make grinding the rest out not as fucking infinitely tedious
WTF, SOME CARDS I'VE HAD BEFORE ARE NOW MARKED AS UNBOUGHT
>>168692491
That's been happening to a few people.
Restart your game a couple of times and they will probably return.
>>168685820
But that's a good thing then. This way they can nerf Maeve in a future patch.
>>168691869
this is so fucking cancerous
>mfw I had more fun and close games at elo hell than at 2k
>>168689690
skyes reset cds on kill or assist is actualy ok, but her other two cards are terribad
>Cassie picks bulldozer on pve
Read that sentence a few times
>>168692728
AH NICE. THANKS DUDE, SEEMS TO BE FINE NOW
^ faggot
I literally can't make this shit up.
Am I missing something? Is there some magical retard switch that I forgot to flick that makes Bulldozer at all in any way useful against a flank that has literally no deployable?
>>168693485
2k is where the fun officially ends.
Then you either stomp or get stomped on.
>>168694829
Yeah I hate it when the enemy team consists of 5 bucks, some with spaces in their names, and no one gets Cauterize.
>>168694829
>kill to heal on Ruckus
>implying he will kill anyone there
Hilarious.
How do You think Irana will look?
I personally hope she'll be a qt brown muclegirl with a spear.
>>168695283
Amazoness.
>>168694934
this match was back and forth, it would have been a different story if evie had a brain though:^)
>>168695283
I'm hoping for the same, but Gae Bolg puts different images in my head. You know Celtic and shit.
>>168695283
Probably armored in a ton of armor. Dude she probably has SO much armor, dude? like dude. armor, lmao
>>168695365
Blessed picture of an almost compelling match, that definitely did not frustrate you with teammate retardation.
who /buyingallcards/ here?
>spend all your gold on cards
>Won't have any gold to buy chest to get essence for legendaries
:^)
>>168696768
>being poor
>>168631680
Actually most of the champions are going to be nerfed after this patch. Cassie, Nando, Makoa, Damba...
>>168696768
should've saved your chests, fuckboy.
Is there any tournament today?
So are we not able to buy cards with gold anymore then im guessing by the sound of it here?
>>168697663
Yup
>>168695864
>A barefeet brown amazoness QT3.14 in full armor
Hirez please
Where can I see my FWOTD status on live client?
>tfw I woke up, read the patch notes, realized this game will most likely die unless they fix their shit within the same week and that fact made me so tired of this game I can't even find the will, patience or reason to get into the game and win 3 matches for the crystals
Never should've trusted Hi-Rez again.
Why did I do this to myself?
>>168698270
Masteries, I like.
New card system, I fucking hate with a passion.
The currency system, how you unlock characters and cards, is PERFECT right now. They should NEVER have changed that, that was a mistake.
>>168694829
first invite capable players that want to do this with you, you dont need kids on your team that just pick the nicest picture on the item screen.
second get ruckus torwald grohk BK and kinessa.
final spam grumpy and poopy on point with bk, have kinessa sit on the right and agro the bucks the tanks and healer stay on point and pick off easy or stunned bucks.
enjoy
>>168698884
gotta sell those boosters some how
>>168696708
I don't.
I already have the cards I need, so I'm saving my gold to buy Radiant Chests when they'll be purchasable with gold, so I can get essence and buy the legendary cards I want.
Dear HiRez, you are about to make the game extremely unenjoyable for any newcomer, and paired with your shitty matchmaking, I'm sure they are going to have an absolutely horseshit time against enemies with Legendaries that are better than the default unlocked.
Not only this, but when they look up the enemy's build, and see the cost of getting all said cards, it will be incredibly demotivating to see that a lot of the cards, AND ESPECIALLY the legendary costs far more than they will have in a LONG, long time. Not only will this make it so actually buying cards is a stupid risk, where you might not end up liking the build, but it creates a massive play2win issue, not something paladins needs.
There will be almost no motivation to spend that much time and effort to obtain just a few cards to tweak your build to be as powerful as your opponents, especially when not all cards cost a fairly low price, which brings up the next issue
Card rarity
Why on earth is card rarity a thing? Why would it be a GOOD idea to make it HARD to obtain certain cards by making them costier? And the problem is, if they're gonna be costier, they damn well be stronger too, so not only are they harder to get, they SHOULD be stronger, since they cost more, but that's just even worse. Pick your poison, some cards are "Epic", but are just as good as most other cards, or some cards are "Epic", but are STRONGER than most other carsd, causing people that have spend all their "essence" on a specific loadout to have a massive advantage over people who don't specialize in a champion and only get cards for said champion.
Just the whole IDEA behind NOT being able to go into the character menu and purchase any card you want for a reasonable, yet still not minimal price is beyond me. The whole REASO the old card system worked was because cards were so accessible, so it was okay if certain cards were stronger, because everyone had access to them.
What did Jewbear break now that I keep losing cards?
I know for a fact that I bought every single Maeve and Makoa card but now I only have 2~4 cards for both of them.
>>168694829
>gets cauterize
You aren't much better.
>>168700832
Yes, I do apologize that I thought that in lieu of Life Rip 3 some immortality mitigation for headshotting 100% accuracy bots might be a better idea than, say, wrecker or bulldozer.
Or Deft Hands for a laser rod that recharges faster if you don't empty your wad.
>>168700401
SOME GUY EARLIER TOLD ME TO RESTART MY GAME AND THAT FIXED THE ISSUE FOR ME
>>168698270
I've actually forced myself to get those 3 FWOTDs because I'm greedy, but I didn't enjoy it too much, because no fun allowed above 2k.
>>168701628
play payload or just play with friends 4 man stacking is very fun
>>168701785
>implying I have this many friends
>implying they are good at game
I could party with randos I have on my friends list tho, so thanks for the advice.People I know IRL that play the game are like 1200-1400 elo, so I play with them for fun, not wins
>>168696125
everyone was pretty on point except evie and the enemy was fairly lackluster except viktor
if evie had a brain we would have shit on them easily
but it comes and goes, sometimes you just get fucked
>>168702223
add me im always up for playing in a party
id: mermoco
>>168702749
adding this guy and instalocking maeve
>>168702802
i got good at barik to shut down all u fags
>>168702898>tfw afk Shoe Wongs
>>168703141
>every loss had something to do with shalin
I'm ~2000 elo and I'd always and only played with my friends which are ~1400, how's that possible?
It seems Inara is actually a goddess, more exact, the Protector Goddess of all Wild animals, and she dislikes dragons.
What did Cuckbear mean by this?
I know that Best Boy is now Dead Boy, but if I want to try playing him after the patch, which one should I go for? Scorch, so I can deal more dps, or Formidable to try to be cheeky (to be honest I don't think that could work, in those 3 seconds you are regenerating someone's gonna out-dps your regen, unless you run and hide or get your shield up and treat it like a Last Stand card).
Aegis is kinda trash bc wrecker, but the lower cd might be good?
>>168703976
I'd say she'd hate Drogoz, but he's just an overgrown lizard so...
>>168703976
>It seems Inara is actually a goddess, more exact, the Protector Goddess of all Wild animals, and she dislikes dragons.
Source?
Also
>frontliner
>dislikes Drogoz, the frontline buster
I WONDER WHY
>>168704223
scorch is gonna make fernando actually useful in solo Q
>>168631439
>>168704261
>[Autistic reptilian screeching]
>>168704223
Aegis if you have a good healer and a damage to stay with you on the objective so you can protect them.
Scorch if you know how to hit your fireballs well and have a healer to keep you alive as you burn everybody to death.
Formidable when you have no healer or you actually can't pick any other card.
Formidable is shit and useless if you have a healer and the enemies are not retarded, it may keep you alive a few times and save you from death a few times, but somebody will deal more damage than you can regen and die.
>>168704375
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inara_(goddess)
>>168704740
>Hitite goddess
>Celtic ult
Sasuga Hi-rez.
>>168704223
In my experience Formidable is not as good as it sounds so you might want to go with firenando or 8 CD, getting your shield destroyed in seconds aint that important when you get it back that fast
>tf2 15-20 fps
>>168704223
>Fireball deals 30% more damage
>30% more gives Nando 585 damage fireball
Wow, I can now deal ALMOST as much damage every four seconds as Makoa does every one second, but only if I put 4 points in Incinerate card! Thanks for this very powerful legendary card, Hi-rez.Disgusting fuckers.
Did they just remove every built-in skill interaction and move them to a legendary card?
>>168705418
Yes.
Just look at Skye, they actually destroyed her.
Jewbear practically deleted her by moving her bonus damage from poison bolts on a legendary card.
Playing Skye now is even worse than playing Loki.
>>168705418
Evie's blink still gives bonus damage! Though her ice block lost all of its additional functionality and didn't even get a card for it, whoops
>>168705569
Looks like everyone lost a bit of damage so it should even out.
I would like a longer TTK so this might actually be a good thing.
It's just that noone likes nerfs, they could've achieved the same thing by just adding more health.
This is supposed to be the official /palg/ discord but it never gets posted here for some reason: https://discord.gg/JVZCw
>Wormhole
>Blink may be used a second time within 4s to return to the initial casting location.
So does this mean that I need to wait 8 seconds before being able to blink again if I don't use wormhole?
>>168706067
Yes
http://smitedatamining.com/paladins-ob-44-datamining-oracle-lawman-and-inara/
mecha Fernando
burrito Sha Lin
What's the best build for pub-stomping Maeve?
Cooldown reduction + increased HP?
or prowl heal + pounce heal?
>>168706235
max cooldown reduction on nine lives
2-3 healing on pounce
1-2 healing on prowl
>>168705291
what
>>168705794
While that's true, Skye was garbage even before they moved her poison bolts bonus damage, having no mobility or an escape, she is the worst flanker.
While as of OB43 she does have the highest damage in the game, she lacks mobility.
Evie, Buck, Androxus and Maeve all have an actual escape, while she doesn't.
Maeve is goodSkye, and by Maeve existing, Skye has nothing to offer other than stealth and some damage, making her pure garbage.
All of the other flanks have something that makes them better than Skye, and that is mobility and escapes, a good Skye gets deleted in higher level games and comp, while even a retarded Evie can escape if things get nasty.
She needs a rework badly, or at least be given the ability to climb walls, somewhat like Lucio/Hanzo/Genji.
>>168706235
get the pounce heal kid, it seems like its the go to move for when a maeve is losing a fight, she SUPPOSEDLY has 1800 hp but in reality you have to make like 2600 damage to actually kill her.
>>168705794
>everyone
Not really, Grohk and Kinessa's damage got buffed, Viktor's bonus from shooting the target marked by grenade still remains, Maeve and Andro remain untouched.
>>168706448
Kinessa now deals 100 less damage on a fully charged shot.
>>168706214
MECHA FERNANDO
VICTORIAN MALDAMBA
Is burrito Sha Lin a reference to an esports team?
>>168706214
>A skin for Kinessa and Mal damba
FINALLY
>>168705294
They should make the fireball his primary
>>168706593
>he cares about Shitnessa
Shiggy diggy etc.
>>168706669
>He doesn't play Minessa and annoy the fuck out of his enemies with his mines while he snipes them from their own backlane
HEY GUYS I HEARD YOU WANTED A MAEVE NERF SO WE DECIDED A NERF WAS IN ORDER, HER SPEED WAS REDUCED FROM 400 TO 399 BTW SHE GOT TRIPLE JUMP AND INFINITE POUNCES XD
>t. drybear
>Maeve literally buffed
wew
Max speed Drogoz feels like playing DOOM
>>168706935
Just remember to buy cauterize and stay grouped, so the other enemies with aoe damage have easier time hitting you.Death would be kinder.
>>168706360
>tfw
>>168707075
I actually can't tell what you're trying to say with your post.
>>168706601
>most champions get their bonus damage back with primary
>not Fernando
HI-REZ
HATES
FERNANDO
I bet Drybear's Kinessa can't deal with Flanknando and this is his revenge.
>>168707189
You're retarded then its very easy to understand his post.
>>168707304
Help me out.
>>168707323
He's making an ironic post telling you generic random advice that Maeve mains give out so she doesn't get nerfed.
OMG SHES EASY TO KILL JUST GIT CAUTERIZE AND STAY TOGETHER EVERYONE
They advice you to stay together when there are champions that hit an entire area such as pip, drogoz and bomb king who would take advantage of you for staying together just to deal with a single champion.
>>168707402
I thought it was directed at a Maeve player so it didn't make sense.
Thanks.
Also cauterize isn't even good against Maeve what the fuck.
>>168707581
Maeve can heal 280 in a pounce, 500 from Nine Lives, and more 280 from another pounce.
>>168707581
>Also cauterize isn't even good against Maeve what the fuck.
lol
>>168707867
>>168707886
She also dies if you're competent enough to hit her twice without missing :^)
>>168707963
That's the problem here, shitters aren't good enough to do that and they go on and complain wherever they can
>>168708040
t. Nigger who ruins my matches because they can't kill a fucking Maeve by themselves
>>168708123
lol
>>168708123
lel
>>168707581
LMAO
Caut is literally worth maxing out even if enemy team has no healers besides Maeve
Friendly reminder that Maeve has:
the EHP of Buck
the damage of Skye
and the mobility of Evie
.. Why is this allowed again? Literally Mary Sue the hero
>>168708265
Caut is almost always the best option, unless you are fighting multiple tanks that know how to take turns shielding.
>>168708385
>the damage of Skye
how bad are you
>>168706214
looks like inara dosen't use shields at all, she may well end up bing the best tank due to how strong all the anti shield crap is going to end up
>>168708385
Because the real shitters out there needed a champion like her.
>>168708385
>Why is this allowed again?
Because Drybear has to fix his KDA after playing Shitnessa, and this broken garbage is the easiest way to do it.
>>168708385
>the damage of Skye
maeve is on her own fucking level lad
So do we know which cards are getting transformed into legendaries ?
>>168708385
>the EHP of Buck
t. shitter than can't aim
>>168708672
yes
>>168708672
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?29755-Open-Beta-44-Patch-Notes-February-17th-2017
>>168708672
It's all in the patch notes, buddy >>168647697
Are Maeve shitters the Evie shitters of our generation?
>>168709026
>hairband on the wrong side
>>168709026
Evie at least takes some skill to play.
There's nothing that justifies Maeve.
I need a second game to recharge between games of this...
>>168709026
lol just git gud bro like just aim at her and shoot lmao
>>168709161
>mermoco is still bad
>tfw I unironically don't understand why people are complaining about Maeve
Maybe it's because I only play tanks and flanks.
hey merm up for some more pubstomp in about two hours after I've had a nap? cool.
>>168709152
SMITE Tactics: The Gods Await Your Commandâ„¢
Is Ruckus' aerial assault even worth getting? It sure looks cool to just fly upwards and would perhaps make it easier to run away in case of shit hitting the fan, but wouldn't stronger Repulsor field near the point be better?
>>168709553
depends on what you play: flank or tank.
>>168709291
>le mermoco boogeyman
Want to know how I know you have jack diddily shit for an argument?
>4800 damage output from a single character in the span of 4 seconds is ok
When will this meme end?
>>168709660
>Want to know how I know you have jack diddily shit for an argument?
Funny you trying to say that, even in that post you used an ad hominem.
>>4800 damage
it's actually 2400 nigga lmao
oh, and that OB44 video about Maeve pouncing on Skyes?
only realistically possible if the enemy team has a Maeve, Evie and a Skye that are utterly braindead and are for some reason together.
>>168707402
Being together means within supporting distance, you don't need to literally hug your team, this inability to grasp simple concepts might explain your troubles.
>>168709553
>Torvald approaches you
>fly up, hide on the ledge, make a ridicule of the old man while he struggles to reach you
Might be fun.
>>168709358
Because she's impossible to hit as a projectile character, since she can just stay outside of your range and still be close enough for her daggers to be unavoidable.
>>168709152
Atlas Reactor.
>>168709945
>it's an 'ad hominem' anon again
Ok bye, no point in staying in the thread that is about to turn into shit.
>>168710247
>she's impossible to hit as a projectile character
>one of the best Maeve counters is a projectile characterwell, that might be true when OB44 arrives and giver her that talent card, bitch's gonna jump a lot
>>168710295
>proving you are actually mermoco
Nigga, an ad hominem is an ad hominem.
If you use it, not only you don't have credit to your argument, people will notice and you'll look pathetic.
maeve is cancer and needs to be removed
>>168711076
thought you left cause the thread was about to turn into shit??
>>168709945
>not 4800 damage
>let me conveniently forget about nine lives
Yeah ok, now I know you're a fucking idiot.
Oh and by the by, if you think mermoco is the only person against the loli cat whore, then that just tells me how delusional you really are.
>>168711828
>standing still long enough to let her combo you twice by 2 pounces and 8 knives
and obviously he isn't the only one that hates Maeve, hell, to this fucking day, there's people who still call Skye OP, shitters are always here and they'll always be shitters.
>>168712245
>standing still is the only way for her to hit you with all of that
try playing against a good meave player once
>>168712415
>try playing against a good X player once
applies to literally every character that isn't a specialised support or Skye.
>>168712508
meave is a lot more forgiving than most champs and is a lot easier to get kills with. i'm a shitter and i can destroy anyone that isn't a tank with meave in ranked
>>168712692
good for you, bub, skill ceilings exists for a reason and are completely subjective.
>>168712805
not an argument :^)
>>168712846
How come?
skill ceiling is literally subjective.
One's skill with a character cannot directly define how OP the character is.
>>168710038
>it starts working
>blasted into space
>>168711828
>4800 damage in 4 seconds with nine lives
You cannot pounce while you're throwing daggers.
You cannot throw daggers while you're using pounce.
You cannot use nine lives while you're throwing daggers or pouncing.
Throwing daggers takes time.
Pouncing takes time.
Nine lives heals instantly but the cooldowns are refreshed only after she spins the dagger.
Your assumption is that all skills are instant and that you can use multiple skills / attack at the same time.
>mfw i get my ass kicked in a twitch stream
>>168713358
>this makes maeve balanced
>>168696768
>>168697028
literally just buy cards with all of your gold before OB44 drops on live.
This way, you're pretty much gaurenteed to get essence from dupes in chests. You don't have to unlock heroes to buy cards for them.
I spent around 50k g on cards I didn't have, so whenever I get a chest, I'll be way more likely to get essence to craft legendary cards.
>>168713903
not an argument xD
>>168712245
You fucking nigger why do you think this is a black and white sort of situation?
She's so fast that anyone either without or not extraordinary mobility skills, sans Torvald who can somewhat reliably shut her down, will not be able to outrun her ass.
She will just pounce her way back to you like fucking Sanic. And even if she doesn't hit that pounce, it's still 4200 damage. AND even if she's bad, remember 2500HP more or less is about the average health on most champs, exceptions being tanks and the rare champ with above average health like Grover.
Even if she misses lots of shit she can easily kill most people with one meme combo, or at least leave them near death for other four people to finish, and then prowl away like nothing ever happened.
And guess what else, she can just pounce through shields. Just because.
If you don't have help from your goddamn teammates, who will 99% of the time will be complete mouthbreathing retards, you will die.
Just because the game is team based and you have to perform teamwork to succeed doesn't mean you're justified to have a champ so ridiculously mobile and strong that you have to gang it 5v1 to reliably kill it.
>>168713358
Make it 7 seconds then.
Still an unreasonable amount of damage from ONE character in such a short lapse of time.
What do I use to win the current PvE?
>>168714356
a full party
>>168713903
>>168714084
>>this makes maeve balanced
>Still an unreasonable amount of damage from ONE character in such a short lapse of time.
This makes Maeve do as much damage as any other damage character would do to you if you're standing still.
Viktor can do 1300 damage per second. Extra 160 for the first four rounds.
Tyra does roughly the same amount.
Skye does 1500 per second without the bonus damage from bolts.
Evie can do 1200 per second after blink (so pretty much always) and her damage is also AoE.
Maeve doesn't do too much damage, the only reasonable nerf for her is further reducing her speed.
She is at all times two projectile hits or 1.5 seconds of hitscan fire away from death.
You have been visited by the "Tiny Pink Cat of Mobility"
High KDR and Top Plays will come to you, but only if you post "Maeve is fun and balanced" in this thread.
>>168715173
>all this denial
>>168715496
Maeve is fun and balanced
>>168715537
>no counter-argument
Imo Maeve needs at least some damage falloff. And maybe a bit shaved off of her overall damage. Maybe.
>>168715173
The difference is they're not flying at 24 gorillion miles an hour on your screen, and their cards and skills don't heal them for around 40% of their total health.
Tyra cannot run away, Viktor's hustle is pathetic to run away and Skye just goes invisible. Apart from that they have virtually zero mobility.
Oh and again, which you also conveniently ignored, pounce through shields for no apparent reason.
>She is at all times two projectile hits or 1.5 seconds of hitscan fire away from death.
You have got to be joking at this point.
I've seen Grover parroted to counter her because of the cripple. To hit her from far enough to do significant damage you have to be pretty much a prediction master, and be lucky on top as well because she can sharp change direction at any given time.
Otherwise, you're looking at a 350 damage cripple, and ~440 damage axes at minimum range where she's bouncing and fucking you up, while she's already healing that with pounces and nine lives.
But nah man, there are no counterarguments here, are there? You'll just dismiss them, because.
All the while you faggots' arguments consist of "git gud" over and over without any substance or thought.
Did anyone try nerfeddedDrogoz yet?
>>168716871
He's great but still falls prey to longer ranged champs in big open areas.
>>168716871
I had a game earlier, he felt slower than usual. And that's just general movement, not his boosters
>>168716692
>pounce through shields
Movement abilities always went through shields, nothing new there.
>grover
>i can't 1v1 a flank with a support
The fuck do you expect?
>The difference is they're not flying at 24 gorillion miles an hour on your screen, and their cards and skills don't heal them for around 40% of their total health.
The original argument was that she does """"""4800 damage in 4 seconds"""""" which is just plain wrong. Her damage output is just about average.
Glad we got that sorted out.
I even suggested that a reasonable nerf is to make her slower so that you shitters have an easier time bursting her down.
>>168715714
The fuck is that pic?
>>168718151
Post your profile to see the caliber of player that's calling everyone a shitter.
I want to see that 4k elo
>>168715714
What she actually needs to be balanced is for all her heals to be scraped, want to play a glass cannon then do but as it is right now she's got too much mid fight sustain.
Will Inara be the first god added to the game?
Or will she just be a normal human with no relations to the goddess Inara?
So should spend all of my gold on cards now?
>>168719197
Yes. Save chests and buy all the cards (or the ones with high rarity).
I'm still going to wait until the last day, just in case.
>>168719113
Probably zero relation. Like Maeve being compared to cat sith and Celtic origin, and we got a french street thief.
>>168719826
I'm actually not sure because apparently the chest will cost 3000 gold and it has three drops.
If you get three cards you saved yourself 600 gold.
>>168718151
>Movement abilities always went through shields, nothing new there.
Movement abilities also don't do 600 fucking damage in contact.
No one apart from Fernando and Buck have movement skills that damage, which first and foremost don't have the purpose of being a good way to deal damage anyway, but to quickly move around, and they do so little damage it's almost negligible. Note, almost. I know you would cherrypick anything I say to make yourself look better.
>>The fuck do you expect?
>how do I counter Maeve???
>Grover is an option
>oh wait no he isn't lol
>The original argument was that she does """"""4800 damage in 4 seconds"""""" which is just plain wrong. Her damage output is just about average.
Nice job dodging the topic my man.
The problem doesn't stay at her damage, but rather it continues to the outrageous mobility and unjustified mid-fight self sustain she has.
Damage champs have to deal with shields. Maeve doesn't.
Damage champs have very little in the way of escape options, apart from maybe Cassie and she still doesn't have any sort of verticality. Maeve does.
Damage champs don't have cards and skills to heal themselves. Maeve does.
I can't believe there's still people intent on defending this piss. I don't remember any other champion stirring so much shit for so long after release as Maeve has.
Doesn't this speak for itself? If there was no problem the bitching would eventually stop as people adapt. It happened with Sha Lin after everyone bitched he did too much damage. It happened with Tyra after everyone thought she would be an unstoppable damage deathball but in reality can't escape anything. It happened with Torvald when people thought his fuckhuge shields were too much.
But that's not happening with Maeve. People cannot adapt to broken shit. What does this tell you, huh? Is everyone a "shitter" then?
>>168719976
You want the chests for essence (direct or from duplicates) to buy leggos
>>168718151
>i can't 1v1 a flank with a support
you must be shit then, lad
>press q on ground
>press r on bitch nigga flank who thinks he can step to the pimp daddy sundae wukano
>spit on him to degrade his morale
>he is so ashamed that he commits suicide and deletes his account
can't wreck the snek
post em
>it's another "you can't connect to the fucking main menu of the game and keep getting disconnected for hours and get the deserter status" episode
>go on a 30-eliminations streak and 2nd-highest damage on Ying
>can't win
what support do I play if I want to carry games
>>168722158
pip or maldambar as far as i know
>see that one stream where a solo barik carried to victory
>decide to try barik
>get a massive losing streak something like 1 won 8 lost
>start to win
>then another lose streak comes
>then i start winning
>winning some more
>top damaging or close to top damaging every match
>just a one man army distracting the frontlines so my second frontline can fuck em up
>tfw i might become a barik main
Does season 1 actually buff him or just makes him weaker?
Can someone specify what his weapon legendary actually does?
Based on numbers, legendaries most likely cost 7500 essence. Because of how much essence you gain from duplicates, commons are 1/8 of price (500 -> 60), rare 1/5 (1250 -> 250), epic are 1/4 (5000 -> 1250), it's safe to assume legendaries will be 1/3 (x -> 2500).
Still incredibly terrible, though.
>>168721823
>>168722479
It improves potency.
>>168722998
yeah but i want numbers
>>168722479
season one buffs turret build, which is the one you should generaly go for, the shield one is mostly useless with how hard hi-rez are hating on tanks, I think that the shotgun one just beefs up the damage nothing fancy.
>>168722479
Barik is actually pretty good, there's lots of salty people bitching that he's the worst frontline and I don't know why
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?29740-OB-44-Season-1-Patch-Preview
>Blunderbuss - No longer provides bonus damage to marked targets, reduced damage falloff from 80 > 85, reduced minimum damage at max falloff from 10 > 50
About the legendary cards, there's no actual numbers that I know of, they just said "improves"
>>168721823
>>168721823
>says targets are marked and take extra damage from your weapon shots
>actually only affects your first shot
[pukes]
>>168725054
And they still snafu'd the fucking healing flask thing
>Pros abusing emotes in order to see around corners
Time to make it so you can only use them during set up
>>168725618
they'll just make them uncancelable
you know,like in overwatch
>>168721823
>still can't surf
>propel is still a shadow of its former self
>cucked 200 damage away with the loss of base damage and thrust damage
a-at least the speed is better
In all honesty though, the change to fire spit not knocking back anymore is actually a buff. It's easier to hit double spits on grouped enemies if you don't knock them back.
Inara seems fun and Oracle will be a qt female support.
Barik picked by District 69.
>play PTS for first time
>get utterly destroyed
why are only good players on PTS
>>168722479
Barik is fantastic until they focus your turrets.
If you go against the less bright you can 3+v1 "easily".
The falloff reduction in the next patch is pretty big since you were really a joke at long distances, now they'll have to respect you.
They weren't extremely specific with the legendaries but they said the turret one will all around improve them and give them hitscan while the shield one boost it to 10k.
>>168726505
>In all honesty though, the change to fire spit not knocking back anymore is actually a buff. It's easier to hit double spits on grouped enemies if you don't knock them back.
>>168728823
I can't aim, help me!
>>168729415
yea that's one of the issues. but everyone can just do everything faster than me
>>168729113
It is literally easier to do more damage if your targets aren't displaced. The knockback is utility.
>>168729989
You should be also able to hit fire spit with salvo now for a fun little burst of reliable 2800 damage
>Barik and Grohk wining against a team with Maeve
Really activates my crystals...
>>168721823
>>168731609
That's a cute lizard
>>168731704
>lizard
>>168731913
Sure love winning 3 games and gaining less elo than if i lost a single one ;). Top tier matchmaking =D.
>keep getting 20 minute 3/3 games
>keep losing at the last minute due to fuckup/teammate's fuckup
Free me from this eternal nightmare
>>168731913
but he's a qt
>>168732469
>an lusty maid
>>168732261
I had to play 12 matches until I got 3 wins. All my loses were hard stomps.
This is not fun.
>>168733231
You could've just done 3 quick PvE matches as Mal'Damba spamming heals on your frontliner sitting on the point.
>Still miss CB
>Don't like OB
>Not liking what I'm seeing from season 1
fug
>>168733664
stop playing?
if you did already stop posting
>>168733934
Fuck off
>>168721823
Best taste coming through.
>>168721823
>>168733447
Thanks I'll try that today.
I'm fucking sick of stone keep.
>>168721823
>>168734017
>2017
>Motherfucking Asuka
how does it feel to be a cuck?
>>168734017
sup moot
>>168734735
>>168734017
>>168723625
Your tastes areC U T E !
>>168734842
Considering Asuka has been my waifu no for pretty much 20 years, don't know what you are talking about.Yes, I saw Evangelion when it released on VHS
>>168731545
They really took that 'stick together' advice seriously.