/ss13g/ - Spessmen of a spess station

First for new stats

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Second for always remember

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>Captain Wilhelm edition
No.
Make a new thread.

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>>168559742

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>>168559742
shut it, beady

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>>168559535
Wasn't in the round.
According to the admin logs the last four global sounds played are:

>Pseudonym played sound d_e1m2.mid
>Zealotron played sound Widdly 2 Diddly - LISA Soundtrack - 49 Ode to the Oblivious.ogg
>Zealotron played sound Dead Rising OST - Gone Guru.ogg
>Pseudonym played sound d_e1m1.mid
Take your pick of the above

>>168559893

WHY WOULD PROBE MAKE ANOTHER /V/ THREAD?
WHAT IS HIS END GAME?

Genetics clone armies when?

>catatonic people are given dialogue and AI
>have them walk around aimlessly like monkeys
>how they act and speak is dependent on their jumpsuit
>give them a security jumpsuit to have them stun and cuff wanted people like secbots
>give them engineering jumpsuits to have them automatically lay down floor tiles and turn girders into walls
>create a shitload of them and deploy them around the station to fight hostile mobs like lemming retards
>geneticist traitor implanter that allows you to make them loyal only to you and automatically follow you around

>>168560060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDeThz30JtQ

there we go

>>168560136
My beef with /vg/, really, is that it's such a black-and-white struggle. We never learn what Probe's tax policy is, for instance. And what about once 2hotdogs was defeated, the welderbombers weren't gone. They were hiding out in the mountains. Did Probe just order them all killed, even the boxbabies in their little box cribs?

>>168560136
New Players bring variety to the game.

You can only get pinned by Rin so many times before it gets boring.

>>168560137
Give them a grey jumpsuit and they gain 100 brain damage and they destroy all glass and grills they come across.

For some reason I see everyone on their underpants including me.
Is it normal?

>>168562732
Son, you have a great gift

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contribute to the wiki

I don't understand ANYTHING about this game but this is rather fun.

>someone magically knows it's nuke without having strayed from their desk
>copy-paste proofs
>ahelp
>no response
>Zth: we already responded
>Zth: Stop calling out bullshit
Nice admins you've got there.

>>168562884
were you the quartermaster?

>>168562892
Where's the proof? What happened?

>>168562930

were you the last QM?

why did you spaced yourself?

>>168562884
Please make sure to read the rules, and admin help (F1) if you have any doubt. Wiki should be enough but it could be outdated at specific articles

BUNKER NOW
STOP MAKING /V/ THREADS

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>it's a "admins astroturf drama" episode

[19:29:03]ADMIN: HELP: IAGFPRMF/(Kennedy Sandford): Chat is moving too fast, what happened? - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.
[19:29:17]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Sawbones)->IAGFPRMF/(Kennedy Sandford): sec guy caught wind of a syndicate channel somehow
[19:31:35]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Sawbones)->IAGFPRMF/(Kennedy Sandford): its honestly a fuckin mystery

Really makes you wonder.....

>>168563267
wow
so this is the power...
of admins...

How 2 be a good and funny clown.
Not a shitter clown that is just a more colorful greytider that "pranks" people.

>>168563267
Please tell me this is a fabrication. What day? What time?

>>168563484
Break all the mirrors and give everyone the slip and shave.

Can I get some help learning how to set up an SME on the test serb?

>>168563657
that's MY tactic motherfucker, don't steal it

>>168563484
Write your own play and build a stage

>>168562930
>>168563089
Both were an accident.

Threadly reminder your waifu is a shit

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>>168564085

>>168563686
What do you need help with? I can't connect atm, but willing to answer any question about cooling setups. You are not following the wiki guide r-right?

>>168564447
Why? the wiki guide is not good?

What the fuck do Mr. V.A.L.I.Ds even DO, sec drags them out every dozen rounds or so but they just sit there and go 'clear' over and over.

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>>168563267
I log dived pretty hard to find out how this happened.

Headsets will never let people next to you hear what is being said.

Radios will allow what is being said to be heard.

I haven't the slightest idea how that guy picked up the Syndicate Radio Channel.

>>168564640
tells all of sec if someone runs past without an ID or with an arrest/incarcerated flag on them
if you place them in a strategic spot they can serve as a valuable early warning, say if you put one in front of the bridge then you know if a baddie's trying to hack in

>>168564640
Theoretically they freak the fuck out when somebody carrying syndicate gear walks by them

>>168564771
>>168564787
Then why the FUCK do they always just stick them in the lobby, what does that even accomplish.

>round end delay
>propose that they randomly ban someone
>i am banned
I don't know what I expected

>>168564893
Let's you know immediately if somebody you're dragging in has shit on them + what, are you going to run down to the bridge every time it beeps? They'll be long gone

>>168564526
Not really no. Here is my setup:

>remove both vents
>add pipe layer manifold where the right vent was
>run FOUR layers of heat exchange piping all around the inside of the core
>connect 3 scrubbers at the bottom. Set them to filter everything EXCEPT oxygen.
>add a passive vent inside, to the right of the airlock, add a pipe where the airlock is, and add a connector directly outside
>make your heatsink outside.
>turn on engine, add 2 canisters of oxygen, via the passive vent
>Look at the engine glow
>add emitters.

Let me know if any of this makes/doesn't make sense to you

>>168564954
>not searching everyone that comes in immediately regardless
for what purpose

>>168563089
>>168563983
I was the security guy describing how to put his ID in his PDA

>>168565049
You're going to root through some guy's labcoat and internals box because he beat up an assistant and spaces his ID?

>>168565130
there's execution valids and emag confiscations on the line, are you really gonna say no to that?

>>168565130
Yes

any recommendations for Toxins?
I know bombs are capped, but what's YOUR mix of choice to blow shit up fast and hard?

>>168565283
>bombs are capped
Reminder to trade all your traitor crystals for bomb cap increases.

There is a way to get two (2) boxes in a plastic bag

>>168565089
Hahaha.
I almost got it but things went south and I lost all my items.
Thanks for your help and patience.
I have changed my jobs preferences so that's not going to happens again.

>>168565404
Putting your ID in your PDA will happen with most jobs from what I am aware of, makes space for the belt slot. Hope you enjoy learning how to play.

the OPs meta should be
>1 person goes stealth, blows the borgs and then blows themself (and the RD office) up with a TTV
>4 people go loud get dat disk

>>168565370
Don't say a word

>>168565283
The heat tank gets 825 kpa of 105c plasma followed by 1013 kpa of oxygen at room temperature.

the cold tank gets ~225kpa of oxygen cooled to -261c followed by 1013kpa of plasma cooled to about -85c.

that'll get you around a dev21

>>168565130
>root through guys bag
>eat his snacks in front of him and he can't do shit about it
No greater feeling.

>>168565504
It's alright, I'm just trying to be less inconvenient to other players.

What is the correct order and settings for the SMES units?

>>168565569
>bullying people on code green/uneventful code blue
>stepping in to defend them vehemently when there's actual danger
I want to play this character sometime

>>168565617
Make sure the power draw is less than or equal to total power so they will charge, and make sure the power output is less than the power draw so they will charger, or equal to it.

>>168565592
Try staying away from authority roles like quartermaster or heads until you understand more, should make it a bit easier on you.

>>168565560
oh hey this sounds actually menacing.
I just used to overheat plasma towards unholy levels with the mix chamber and freeze oxygen really cool.
But apparently temperature doesn't matter? It's just has to be a certain amount of pressure mixing.
Also, filling a tank with plasma and then oxygen doesn't make it explode?

>>168565664
That's usually how I Sec. Usually they're still ungrateful if I manage to save somebody.

>>168565350
this is bullshit, sawbones has promised me that he will never raise the bomb cap no matter what i do.

>>168565901
Dragonbro turned it off for me once then I fucked up and only got a 9dev.
It was embarrassing.

>>168565836
it reacts, but the resultant gas and temperature is not enough to rupture the tank. in both cases, you will result in about ~3030 kpa, the tank will leak at 3040kpa. although there's no reaction in the cold tank, and the reason why it overpressurizes is because the heat capacity difference between plasma and oxygen is extremely different. it's complicated to explain and i don't really want to expend the effort.

>>168565901
I'm not Sawbones

>>168564893
Makes wardens feel more comfortable.

>>168566094
you have a problem with zealot?

>>168565350
Gonna keep that in mind, thank you.

>>168566314
He said that Zealot wouldn't do it for him.

>>168565691
How does it work for a magical SMES on test serb? I have the input higher than the output, yet no power flows through the cables.

>>168565350
why not just make it a feature already? Like, instead of going through an admin middle man, just allow them too unlock it themselves in the PDA?

>>168565836
basically, yes, adding oxygen to a hot plasma tank is creating a single tank bomb. but i just gave you the cheat sheet so you never have to find out the hard way and blow yourself up accidentally and get banned for it. if your temperatures and pressures match mine there is nothing to fear.

>>168565836
annnd... the temperature does matter. but, only insomuch that your mixing gases are over 100c. increasing the temperature does not make the explosion any larger, and indeed, due to pv=nrt hotter temps mean less mols and therefore smaller explosions.

>>168566545
thanks a lot!
I'm probably going to fuck it up and plasmaflood the entire research wing but you tried, and that's what matters

>>168566280
But I don't feel more comfortable at all when they're out!

>>168563484
Here are some good pointers from a very biologically named clown
>Always answer the summons of your crewmates, even if it is antag shit, 9 times out of 10, it will be good.
>Similar to my first tip, travel around the station a lot. Go places, and take part in as much as you can. Clowns add a little fun to any situation they end up in and sometimes you hit the jackpot.
>Scheme with the crew. If someone has a plan, be a accomplise(sp?) to it.
>Don't be afraid to die if it's going to get a good laugh.

Really those 3 tips will get you where you need to be as a clown. Here are some donts:
>If you end up serving over 10 minutes in the brig, more than likely you are being a shit clown.
>If you are laughing but no one else is, you are a colorful assistant.
>If you want to be a shitter just roll a greytider, don't take the slot from someone who might actually make a memorable moment.
>Lubing on its own is no good. Unless you can think of a good prank involving lube, don't fuck with it.
Good luck!

>>168566780
Also that's a pretty advanced recipe that will require some intermediate atmospherics knowledge to assemble the necessary gases. I would start out by messing with heater/freezer and possibly a space loop if you can manage that.

>>168567524
and don't bother with the burn chamber

>>168567524
>>168567667
Well I got a basic idea using a piping system a traitor used and i got to see without getting robusted

>>168565003
You only need one layer of HE pipes, 4 is overkill unless you plan on doing some autistic build

You can shut the scrubbers to off

You only need 1 O2 cannister, and you can put it in front of an emitter to break it open(since the shard does produce O2 itself, it will get enough to max power)

Then just increase the HE pipes out in space and fill the pipes with whatever gas you want(some people even connect the scrubbers to the HE pipes so they don't have to waste time filling up the pipes)

Do all this and you'll have a <5 min SME setup

>>168563484
My favorite round as clown was years ago when Taxi was still on the server. I joined as Clown but went to the HOP to get my title changed to Serious Actor.

I went and performed selected scenes from MacBeth, Othello, and Romeo & Juliet in the bar, and actually drew a substantial crowd.

My character's name? Shia Lebeouf

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>>168569224
>not performing confusing, temporary, mysterious, up-to-interpretation art performances

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>Draw a picture for the AI
>Can't get a piece of paper to show it to him
>Cruel gods don't respond to me request for paper and a pen
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>it's an "antag can't make a gimick so he singulooses" episode

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>It's a 'pin the rin xD' episode

if evens chaplain, if odds quartermaster

How do I create my own jokes? Because holy fuck that was awful.

>>168570069
You drew that for me?

I love it. Thank you.

>>168570083
>be a not-kill-everything antag
>too valid to pull things off

>survive after having multiple explosions nearby
Neat

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The Captain's armor looks great on a Vox.

>>168559552
Is it just me, or has there been a surge in greyshit recently? A bunch of people I don't recognize and 90% of them are either shit or they actively fuck things up.

CALL HONK FUCKING SHUTTLE

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>Get some pics with the AI, get jailed almost instantly
>Start fucking around once I'm freed, get bullied by the sec plasmaman, upload pics to newsfeed
>Power goes out
>lone scientist starts talking to me in the dark
>Says he put a bomb in the chapel
>Says to put frequency and code on my newsfeed or he'll blow us both up right then and there
>Do so since I have no choice and it's a neat gimmick
>start having depression in the AI core
>Spill the story to him
>while mime is uploading meme laws, clown comes in
>Says he did my newsfeed frequency and wants to know what he won
>tell him he turned on a bomb
>all three of us just start sitting around sadly
>Captain tells us to fuck off
>clown fucks off, mime gets lasered, I still sit there
>decide to try and redeem myself and get the AI to the shuttle while the captain halfheartedly starts a manhunt
>get so close to an explosion that if I were one tile closer I would have taken damage
>leave
fug

>>168570294
>can't fit a tank
dropped

What were the instructions for the DJ station again?

>>168570321
Rail and I at first thought it was a radio frequency, but then we both realized it was for those remotes. When Rail came to watch me press the button we both thought it activated some crazy comms stuff and that is why comms was crazy, so I wasn't sure if you were joking about the bomb or not.

>>168570632
Drop mad beats. Wear the radiation suit while setting up the things with a multitool or something.

>>168563484
Ignore all advice you see on /v/. Do the opposite of everything they say there. I still remember some retard saying throwing pies full of morphine and setting people on fire are funny pranks.

>>168570632
None of it matters, just use the multitool to enable the radio transmitter in the back and it all works

Heres a suggestion: (Round start?) Required Medicines.

The same way certain people can choose to NEED glasses or have weird limbs. Certain round start people or optional opt in people require a medicine pill. I'm not sure if the mixture needed should be predetermined recipes or random.

But I guess the prescription note you would get would tell you pr the chemist what you need. Maybe certain people could need different intensities/doses/whether or not its a drink or pill.

>>168572123
Sounds fun.
If it were ever added there would be a way to fix it added as well though, I imagine. Then the doctors would cure you right away the same way they'll force ryetalyn down your throat when you have a seizure.

What is the easiest job?

>>168572663
assistant

>>168572663
Captain

>tfw I keep trying to convince the guy to make doom armor sprites fro mthe most recent doom and make it an rnd armor set. Mostly requiring the same amount for an advanced eod suit

>erp with avada
>I get banned and he doesn't

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>See Wizard
>Go to shoot at the wizard
>Hit a fuel tank by mistake
>Blow myself to smithereens

>>168572663
AI

>Found the FTL vault
>The AME on board bugged out and I couldn't use it

Disappointment

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if i didn't fuck around you'd have had enough jetpack fuel to make it, tahki
i failed as a business partner

Dean thanks for your noble sacrifice,
sorry for zassing you and sorry you didn't get cloned

>>168575486
oh i got cloned alright
by the clown whose pda i spaced who stayed behind to kill me personally

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>autism away from all the chaos
>Let someone borrow ID
>never come back
>Break out and check what's up
>someone kills themselves Infront of me
>Strip their ID
>Security walks in
>They shoot to kill so I Stun them and run the fuck out of there with access
>Leave a friend with them to keep them busy
>Never make it to shuttle

>>168575661
damn right I did I broke my skull getting thrown around by zas trying to grab it but you spacing it made you the target of a roundlong bloodlust

Is there any reason to live if you get turned into a vox clown?

>>168575849
honk
honk like you've never honked before.

>>168575849
>clown
haha nice good
>vox
can be alright haha
>vox clown
supermatter cascade consume us

I love my wife

>>168576794
I love her too

>>168576794
I love her too

My wife has hair

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Which one of you fucks posted this because it's good

>>168577438
now post the real one

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>>168578371

>>168565664
I kinda have this reversed in how I play Sec. I'm gentle and friendly to crew members and light on sentencing if there's no actual permanent damage done, but the minute we're in Code Red and I get wind of shit going down I'm on lethals.

>>168571494
>throwing pies full of morphine
wait what

any ghosts who thought I was betraying the cult were retarded
once I got culted I was trying to flag down the captain so I could taze him, cuff him, and shit down his throat for being a cheap bastard

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>be paramedic plasmaman
>fuck off to bomb test site and research all the words to tell everybody
>tell words to everybody
>at one point I forget to turn on my mag-boots and loose my tome to space
>tfw nobody tells me the words for like 2 fucking hours

On another note
>look at bomb test site
>Someone forget to put a timer on their bomb
>put a timer on it
>take it to sec
>set it off

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Yeah next time I'm just going to call it in when the entire security force gets killed with one bomb. Sorry.

>>168581209
>be Research Director
>Do Xenobiology for a bit because no one else did
>Cult stuff happens
>After I lose contact with the captain make my way to bridge
>Comms console is gone
>fuck it
>Build my own goddamn console because that is kinda my job
>someone just recalls it
>cry as nar nar is summoned and I can do nothing
>Fuck off into space through toxins launch to at least escape alive
>die as mobs flood out of a cult base built right next to the test sight
oh

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>trip eva for being a faggot
>get a free mech
>bond with the mech over misadventures
>suddenly ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA
>get hyped
>get so fucking hyped
>lose in a fight because i realized this is my first time ever using a mech and i have no idea how to fight people with it

a waste of a mech but thanks for the dumb fun experience, admins
how much damage does the kill clamps even do? i tried clamping a guy, but it just slammed him against a wall three times and he went back to robusting my ass

>>168581179
It's not that I wouldn't have bought your shit it's that I wasn't going to try and deconvert thirty people by myself.

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>>168581565
>stay still hitting the mech with my sword
>thinking that the admins fucked up and didn't give the mech weapons
>tfw you were actually just bad
>tfw I could have been gibbed on the spot

>>168581594
Sorry I couldn't help more cap, cult snowballs way too fast.

>>168581645
i mean, how do i gib people instantly with that shit, anyway?
i switched to kill clamps once i realized the mech's drill was useless, harm intent'd you, and yet you lived.

was i supposed to aim for the head or something?

>>168581703
The drill takes time

>>168581734
yeah, i noticed. wasn't going to work with someone dancing about.

my question about the kill clamps still stands, though.

>>168581781
I don't use clamps
I was staying still to see if you had a drill

>>168581703
Clamp them to death then drill when they fall over to gib. Clamp is instant.
Be wary of people running circles around you. You got to be facing them.
you're lucky that even though you bagged me, I shouted that you were the person who captured me. That script gave me a really hard belly laugh

>>168581863
eh? wait, i'm still confused.
clamping someone just threw them against the wall and they seemed to get up relatively instantly.

the fuck?

>>168581209
Thanks for saving me from fixing busted bulbs and cleaning floors, that was pretty fun.

>>168581946
the clamps are a weak but fast melee move - faster than your drill anyway. the drill is used after they're down for good to make them unrevivable. the drill has a few creative uses, like drilling up the floor and zassing everyone down, allowing you to drill them while they lick the lint off the floor. you can also use the drill to destroy structures like APC's and consoles. I think mechs tend to be fairly balanced, unlike most other things in the game, so people either vastly over or under estimate them.

What's the best way to get really hot pure plasma? Currently I'm just running h/E pipes through a burn chamber, but if I was to then burn the heated plasma would it get hotter still?

>>168582314
keep pumpin gas into the burn chamber, it'll keep getting hotter

or build a rust and get millions of degrees

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Redeemable anytime that's late night low pop

>>168582378

What sort of temp can I reasonably expect to get from just pumping in the heated plasma? Just as a rough ballpark?

>>168582447
>tfw playing here for years and yet I've always missed every single dorf fort round every time.
feels bad man

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G A I N S W H E N

>>168582798
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13978

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>>168582798

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Now with more juice.

>>168583594
to be honest, remove the animation of the back rope. Just triggering desu.

>>168583594
Good shit anon, just a shame the head doesn't go further one tile.

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>get one-human'd as AI
>human fucks off the whole round making bombs
>get to shoot the shit with borgs and librarian
Comfy round

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>>168582314
Use sequential burn chambers with heat exchanger feedback into their own fuel pipes to gain about 250,000C per burn chamber. It's completely unnecessary though. that magnitude of heat isn't useful for anything though. It's junk in bombs, you can simple use a multi-rwalled burn chamber and overpressure to kill anyone even in protective suits with a fraction of the time and effort, if it's still enabled everything autoscrubs CO2 and plasma on top of depts having gigantic specific heat and firelocks everywhere. For the most part just flood and spark still gets the job done and you can kill the 2-6 survivors as they come.

>>168584928
>not even 20k

the bomb room burn chamber can hit 20k right off the bat

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162th for only proper way to spess

>>168585037
You can juice the toxins burn chamber to ~250C, if you have a better pic of core feedback mechanism I'd love it because that's more important than hurr scrub more of the overburn off to raise your temp.

>>168585169
~250,000C*

>>168585101
EGGMAN

REMOVE YOUR SHITTY SNOWFLAKE ITEMS, THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK GOOD

>>168585983
what shitty snowflake items

>>168586291
The cargo gift console has two items, a labcoat and another item that were made as snowflake shit for the EGGMAN, both are expensive as fuck and look like shit, remove snowflake.

>>168586374
oh right

dude I'm tempted every time I map to just delete that thing. it's awful.

1. Infinite food because lol
2. Its a conslole, no its a a vend, no its a console.

>>168586445
Don't delete the console, it looks good and has good shit in it, we can already get infinite food easy and low effort anon, removing it does jack shit to anyone, I just want the shitty snowflake items to go away.

>>168586583
but the jumpsuit is ballin', it's a cool way to dump money after you spent 2k or 1k money buying pda's to get the glass case pda, plus you can buy a boombox

>>168586583
>I have no problem with flaws in our gameplay
>BUT I HATE OUTFITS
ha
haha

>>168586707
Like I said, it has good shit and looks good, the boombox is fun as fuck, I just think the EGGMAN labcoat is shit

What's this about a glass case pda?

>>168586818
when you buy a pda at the pda terminal you have a small chance to get a glass case pda instead of a normal pda

>>168586764
What flaws, getting a burger, fries and a soda for a blatantly bigger price than its worth? A overpriced portable juke, buying a pen for 10 bucks, a painting for 700?
>>168586909
More you know

>>168586989
No just that they're infinitely available. It should either be turned into a proper vending machine or redistributed to cargo crates/existing vends.

>>168587396
Or, we can leave the unused, non exploitable in, because it is both unused and non exploitable.

You one of those fuckers who wants hunger to "matter" and as such thinks that enabling hardcore mode every round will make "departmental interaction" happen or someshit, aren't you?

>>168587660
"You one of those fuckers" who doesn't care about the game as long as it doesn't get in the way of your convenience.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XUeNHJqFvv6EtlT-ejxBsluSh-yExA7iJTl-6nJrQKE/edit?usp=sharing
Google Docs

The most shat on admin since zealotron, who doesn't read the thread, hates 4chan and wanted to make our lockers have goon looking sprites came up with a "economy" rework, featuring choices like:

Removing department accounts
Goon tier merchants
Turning cargo into jews and making then steal everything not bolted down for money a la TG
Goon taste mechanics
Mood system
Enabling hardcore hunger every round
Make chemmasters need shitty rechargepacks a la goon

>>168587720
The game is not a perfect place. When the system breaks down, it's there. If you take it away, it's not. You don't care about the game as long as it doesn't get in the way of your convenience.

Yes anon, I am so convinienced by a overpriced food menu, I exploit this daily and get the best powergaming results I have ever seen.

I bought it once or twice when I played as a fat fuck who ate too much food and wasted all his dosh on being a fat fuck and eating burgers and soda, don't remove it just because its infinite, lot like its even easy to starve in /vg/ and every other machine is better at feeding you.

>>168585983 >>168586374 >>168586583 >>168586989
fuck off yclat

>>168588084
>An admin wants features. Hate him for it!
>Why don't we have any features?

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>>168590087
Not all new features are good ones Kolith, make a github for this design document and you will see the emoji vote is against you.

First you failed as an admin, now you're trying to fail as a coder.

>>168559552
>>What is Space Station 13?
>[YouTube] Space Station 13
>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
>[YouTube] How to download BYOND

kys op

>>168590360
>implying we want new people
If it has you so butthurt go make another /v/ thread

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4:99

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>have a bad round with lots of bad luck and bad decisions
>finish
>hit myself with the wrong injector and lose 13 powers
>have to re inject myself two dozen times to get most of them back
I wanted to gib on the spot when I saw them all disappear.

>>168590334
I'm not Kolith; I'm just calling you a shitter, because that's what you are.
The reason we're so horribly outdated in every way is people like you.

>>168591897
Don't hand out powers. It makes things insane for sec when antags and shitters get a hold of them.

>>168588084
>Goon tier merchants
Goon merchants are good tho

Can you get/make more Tank Transfer Valves?

>>168592207
only through prayer

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>>168591963
I feel you but handing out powers only to security/command/whatever means the antags get totally shit on and it becomes extended. Which is the same thing you hate.

I won't deliberately juice up a known antag or anything but either you serve everyone equally or not at all.

>Taught Rina a few esoteric cooking secrets
>Made a bunch of rare foods like dundu muffins, panna cotta, and buche de noel

Good round 4 chefin

>>168591932
>Outdated

Why does this matter? We do not need to compete with other servers, we need to make the best server for our players and not cater to people from other places. Being outdated is better than enforcing features the platerbase doesn't want.

>>168591932
>All updates are good updates
Only a retard would think this

>>168592646
>Being outdated is better than enforcing features the platerbase doesn't want.
oh come the fuck on anon the players want the features and the only time that comes up is when a small percent of people bitch and bitch.

the thread is hypocritical as fuck, constantly crying for new features but refusing to code, constantly saying the new features are shit but refusing to say why or help improve them.

meanwhile in game people have a totally different opinion

>>168592646
Our players come and go, the playerbase shifts. Yet our codebase remains in the past. The 'hardcore players' are just shitters afraid of change.

>>168592650
>t. windows 95 user

>>168591932
>>168590334
he's probably not kolith, because he's afk on discord

>>168592786
Make an in game poll then, if you did this for all features there'd be real coding discussion. Instead you force things then call the rew that complain on github shitters that are a vocal minority.

>>168592829
Not all change is good change, people want good change, the coders and actual playerbase rarely want the same thing as change.

>>168592786
You stupid fucking nigger. We have had numerous features merged without people complaining about it.
If I could I would literally murder you for being so dumb.

>>168593003
>if you did this for all features there'd be real coding discussion.
Wrong; only a vocal minority would actually discuss. Most players don't care enough.
> Instead you force things then call the rew that complain on github shitters that are a vocal minority.
Because that's literally what it is.

>Not all change is good change,
Sure.
>people want good change,
Sure.
>the coders and actual playerbase rarely want the same thing as change.
And sure once more. But who is in the right? The coders, that know the game down to it's codely core and change it, or the vocal minority players, that know the game down to it's codely core and abuse it?

>>168593278
>And sure once more. But who is in the right? The coders, that know the game down to it's codely core and change it, or the vocal minority players, that know the game down to it's codely core and abuse it?
Understanding the code =/= understanding game balance, what fits in the game, what is a game-wise stupid or unnecessary change.

You must be a coder if you think they are all fucking gods

>>168593278
Counterpoint: Hypothermia

gg no re

>>168593278
If the majority do not care it means they prefer the status quo

Players are right, coders do not play. Even a shitter like Yclat better represents the players than some coder like cluster. People that complain are regular players and share opinions with the playerbase and know what's best for the game. Coders on average hardly play and so don't know what's best for the game.

>>168593278
>codely core
What did he mean by this?

>>168593410
>Understanding the code =/= understanding game balance, what fits in the game, what is a game-wise stupid or unnecessary change.
Once you know everything in the code, and elarn to abuse it as well as you can, you decide that it's "balanced" and changing it would be "stupid". That's now how it is; you're just predisposed against the idea of change.
>You must be a coder if you think they are all fucking gods
You must not code at all.

>>168593448
>merging unfinished, untested projects
mistakes

>>168593476
>If the majority do not care it means they prefer the status quo
Assumption.
>People that complain are regular players and share opinions with the playerbase
That's definitely not true.
>and know what's best for the game.
See the first part of this post.
>Coders on average hardly play and so don't know what's best for the game.
That might be true, I'll admit. Though I doubt a coder will come up with an idea for a new feature or new content by not ever playing or observing.

>>168593729
>Assumption
Just like your assumption that not caring = wants change, safer to say if they don't care they want things to stay the same.
>Not true
People like yclat and riekland play pretty much daily, they are the core playerbase. If we aren't catering to daily players who is the server supposed to cater to?
>See first part
That implies that anybody resisting change is a shitter. Not true, as I mentioned above a player like riekland is active in game as the discord. Check their notes and bans, they're a great player and even roleplays some. This seems like self shilling but I'm just taking an example github shitter and showing they're a good member of the community and a good voice for the average player.
>Coders play sometimes
Most observe, look at nexis, he admits he only observes. Observing is not playing. Watching a movie is not the same as making a movie. Watching somebody eat food is not the same as eating food, it doesn't mean you now know how best to prepare that meal.

>>168593729
>>168594547
*AUTISTIC SCREECHING*

How bout you idiots have a real MOTD on the server that links to all the current PRs(that now have to be voted on for a MINIMUM of a week before being approved)

there, solved your stupid problem

>>168592416
How is buche de noel a complicated dish? Of anything it's babbies first cake.

Would it be somehow possible to fill the entire Z level of the station's space with Oxygen?

seriously stop making /v/ Threads

>>168595000
Space tiles delete air, so no.

>>168595529
You could change them to unsimulated or whatever, we've done it with the brute-force snow rounds.

>>168594825
most botanists don't grow berries

I'd say babbies' first cake is any of the generic fruit cakes with identical recipes (lemon cake, lime cake, apple cake, etc.)

PROBE ABOUT TO MERGE TGE KOLITH AIR TANK SPRITES FROM /tg/

>>168592272
I'm fine with it because they're too chickenshit to go after people that can fight back in the first place

>>168583594
That seems like an awfully long time for it to take.

>>168596880
for balance reasons

Imagine grabbing and chucking someone in there and decapitating them in < 1 second

people would REEEEEEEEEE

>>168596778
First the shotgun nerf, now this. Can kolith be stopped?

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>>168583594
>Baystation CQC throat slit with a knife is OP retarded
>but this isn't

????????????

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Name a better waifu

>>168597069
Me

>>168596778
Everything Probe does I fucking hate

>>168597069
literally anything

>>168597069
literally anyone

i havent seen self shilling and attention whoring this hard since morena

>>168589815
Its like 2pm now and I just checked the thread for 5 minutes, wasn't me, keep me out of the autism fest, I don't shitpost.

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>Probe is about to merge this

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>>168597069

>>168597069
Julia Brandt!

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>>168597274
It doesn't fit our style, it looks awfull, black outline and its TG.

Probe, do not.

>>168597274
pls no

>>168597639
>>168597658
Ask him to not on the github
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13934

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What's his end game?

>>168597879
>emojicracy winning by goof and carshalah voting

I already voted no anon, not like I will make a duplicate account. Ive said my opinion already and so have others, even PJB said they didn't fit.
>>168598096
Make us into TG/Goon hybrids.

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What did Plapatin mean by this?

>>168597274
ew

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Kolith??

>>168597879
I'm reading the thread. Here's where we're at.

It's pretty much deadlocked as far as opinions on it goes. No one has made any points that conclusively swing it one way or another. So it's going to the server TO DECIDE.

A 3 day server vote later and we'll have our answer on whether it's an improvement or not. Otherwise we're basically sitting on the whims of random users on github. Which applies to both sides that are for and against it .

I don't feel strongly about it one way or another and care much more about things like how the large blue tank lasts for 3+ hours. And even that I don't care that much about.

>>168598096
Lavaland

>>168598208
>laughing at somebody calling you somebody else means you are that somebody they falsely accuse you of being because that somebody has a habit of accusing other sonebodies of being that somebody even though they're not said somebody

Somebody

>>168598351
Probe, emojicracy wins by a git banned retard and a banned metacommer, it doesn't fit at all with our current style and looks like a GBA game, you want us to look like goon?

Cmon probe, balance is what /vg/ has always been about, hasn't it? Don't go for extreme sprite changes with radically different styles, if you want to improve the sprites, ask the spriters to do a compromise between both, not shock the game with a bunch of outlined garbage tanks, plasma doesn't even have initials in it.

>>168598498
But isn't Plapatin himself permabanned? It's on the ban page.

>>168598581
nigger did you read what he said
he said that because of how the votes look, he would do a player pool instead

>>168598596
Yes, lots of people that are banned vote on github or give their opinions

This is why we should do server votes, actual players vote and not just shitposters

>>168598638
I did and I say that the people who want this are retarded, player pool is fine, but merging it when it won by a few retards and making it so after 3 days people vote if it was decent or not is bad.

Is the emojiocracy yet another metaclub?

>>168598596
It's not Palpatine. It's some other fuck who wants to be ignored.
>>168598737
Why is it bad? Why is it worse than ignoring the people who want it? Why are you more special and your opinions more valid than the players that voted for it?

>>168598845
Don't mistake Probe's retardation for maliciousness

>>168598891
Probe, when are we gonna get roombas?

>>168598891
Why are the opinions of people who are either unable to play or choose not to play equally important to the people who do play?

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>>168598891
>players
hmmmm

>>168599008
They are unimportant though. If you uninclude them it's still tied. Even if it was a margin of 5% +/- I'd still go to a server vote.

>>168599004
When someone codes them

>>168598891
>Its not Palpatine
Wrong. I AM the github

>>168598891
Players who voted yes
>Nexis, who doesn't play
>carshalah, metacomms and shittery
>goodball
Players who voted no
>Kilo, known player, good vox
>PJB, while autistic at times, knows his shit
>Blithering, good dude
>Sprok, good player

Besides probe
>consistency doesn't matter, better sprites do
is a really shitty idea for ss13, why have them stand out so much, have outlines, why not ask the local guys to make new ones instead of stealing TG stuff that just isn't compatible with us.

>>168599114
Is there gonna be a vote on secborg v peacekeeper? Or if not the name the colour scheme?

>>168599249
No, the plebs can't be given power over actual code changes

>permanently banned players can vote on github changes to the game
>PERMANENTLY BANNED PLAYERS CAN VOTE ON GITHUB CHANGES TO THE GAME

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>>168599325
>A fucking palette swap
>Actual code change

God, fuck you all

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this being reality when

>>168599697
Simple, become a headmin and ban all TG players.

>>168599249
If no one opens a revert on the color scheme by today I'm gonna do it myself the blue is ugly as FUCK.

I'll put a poll up for peacekeeper name change in a few weeks once people have adjusted. Wait for opinions to settle, put up a poll, see what people want.

>>168599174
We've been over this. Even excluding the votes on the face of it, it isn't that different of a result. You're writing off a lot of people who do play because you don't like it and this is I am burdened with being shitposted about occasionally.

>why not ask the local guys to make new ones instead of stealing TG stuff that just isn't compatible with us.
We did. It didn't happen. You do it. You ask skowron or another spriter. I'm all for having a happy resolution for both sides.

Finally, if you're sure people will hate it then you should not be scared of the poll result.

>>168599845
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13873 Already one open.

>>168599897
That was opened as soon as the PR was merged and isn't about the color scheme it's about everything.

>critical health
>still takes 10 minutes to die

>>168599845
Where's the revert pr button on github? They told me it was down by merged but I can't find it.

>>168590360
whoops

>get ZAS'd into a wall
>take fuck loads of damage but still alive
>instantly stand up
>get knocked down and ZAD'd again

what's up with this new bug where you stand up after getting knocked over and ZAS reapplys? it only seems to happen like 1/4th of the times

>first time setting up sme on box station
>manage to get it to 100MW
how to 1GW sme?

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At least I build a nice bar.

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Woof

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>>168600225
Where it was merged.

>>168600280
It was very nice.

>>168600109
if you were the assistant that died in sec you only had 45% blood so I crammed you full of dex and inaprov before getting tased lased and spaced

>>168600253
You don't need it at all. Do what the rest of us did and gitgud or gitgone

>>168600242
>New
You used to get slammed into a wall 30+ times before the air settled. It was great. Really activated people's almonds if they kept ignoring firelocks.

>>168600012
Good, it should be. If someone somehow doesn't see the massive red text telling them to state their laws and then break their laws to be a robocop on Asimov, warn them or silicon ban them.

>>168599845
>We did. It didn't happen
Then let it stay as is?
>You do it
And make even worse sprites?
>You ask skowron or another spriter
Why should I when I never once even had a issue with our current sprites and neither did almost anyone but the guy who seems to want for us to be goon/tg?
>I'm all for having a happy resolution for both sides
Then go ahead and make it, ask for the inbetween if you indeed want both sides happy

Im not scarred of the poll result, I just know its going to be merged and the poll will go "its shit" to nobodies surprise, that's why Im saying "why merge it".

Stop being a fucking ass in the github and saying "Hurr durr lets not improve ss13 at all", have some fucking stones and act like you aren't 12, we all want for the sprites to be a inbetween, a compromise between what we have now and what the retard TG player wants to force in our server, radicaly different sprites and 17 different styles will not make us look good, at all Probe.

Enough of your refugees welcome shit, enough of your TG shit welcome, ignore the style clashing and the outlines, enough.

>>168600280
turns out all the wood getting stolen was a goodthing
keynesian ecomonics

>>168600353
yea but then it was

>ZAS slam
>repeat slam if there's an airflow

now it's
>ZAS slam
>instantly stand up for some inexplicable reason
>ZAS SLAM regardless of airflow

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>>168600343
I'm logged in, I guess it's you need some flag.

>>168600472
No, not kiddo zas, I'm talking the old zas.

>>168598208
>>168559695
>Sawbones shitposts about solarious
>Calls other people solarious
>Banned solarious from the discord

Is sawbones crazy?

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>>168600384
>Enough of your refugees welcome shit, enough of your TG shit welcome, ignore the style clashing and the outlines, enough.
Alright anon. You can shitpost all you want. That's fine.

But actually using your shitposting about me using things you made up as an argument WITH me to convince me to do something is dumb and I'm finished with the discussion.

>>168600482
I don't understand it. I know there is a way for users to do it.

>>168600929
Are you okay? Did you just have a storke?

>>168600929
https://help.github.com/articles/reverting-a-pull-request/
I think I can't because it's neither mine nor do I have merge rights.

>>168600929
Just checked, the button is there for me.

>>168600929
Probe your retardation is showing :(

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>>168600929
You can ignore my "shitposting" all you want, start merging TG shit and 3 days later youl see the server clearly hates it.

You are already starting to get hated because you keep saying for the bunker to not be up under any circumstance when by your own words you admit it does nothing, you act stubborn and refuse to say yes to the requests of the players despite it being a no effort no consequence act,, you say you want to "test" TG features and don't expect people to dislike it or to call you out when they already told you how its bad, Im one of the few anons who knows you are a really good guy, but Probe, you start ignoring players who play complaining about bullshit, you ignore all previous feedback in prs, and what do you expect but people shitposting and "shitposting" you.

Grow a pair and realize the sprites are bad probe, realize the bunker doesn't harm noone and realize that going and merging shit from TG ends badly.

>>168601154
Do you have merge rights or whatever that lower level stewardship role is?

>>168601417
The bunker's been useless a long time. People already server hop constantly. As soon as it wasn't up 24/7 and became known to people who then shitposted oh it's up wait a bit then get in it was done.

Shtiters are shit, act up, get banned, keep getting rebanned while ban evading then give up and leave or they behave and become a part of the server.

>>168600929
I used to think you were cool before you left your admin position
then after I thought you were cool
now you're back and everything you do is awful

>>168601438
I'm marked as a contributor, that might be it.

is there a list of all the stuff the various material synth items can scan?
i know engy can do metal, metal rod, bigger metal, glass, bigger glass, anything that can be mined and wood. the wood surprised me
mommis seem to be only able to scan wood

>>168602829
Plastic too

>>168602829
Snow is one you wouldn't think of. It can be scanned to make an engiborg into a snowman factory.

>>168602829
it can do uranium, gold, silver, diamond, and even phazite

bring back poo

ministation

>>168604327
>be clown
>shit all over your cell
>slip the warden and kill by force feeding your poop when he comes in
NEVER EVER

>>168604327
Suicide with gooncode, thts the best shot you will ever get at it.

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>>168604526
>ywn destroy an entire security department by slipping them with your poo while you run through maintenance

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>>168604327
>>168604624

>>168604624
That item in the telecomms sat.? What does it do?

>>168605063
Suicide with it and you get >>168604894

Other than that, prayer bait, so pray and hope a admin is chill.

>people complain about bay CQC being 'retarded' and "overpowered"
>meanwhile you can win a fight by spamming little yellow dots around the room

why are so many people opposed to things that upset the "balance" of the game
why does everything have to be based on balance instead of skill? why should we have insta-win guns but no real way to win in a melee? why should we have the only resistance to stuns be in chemicals that approximately two roles on the station can get?

why is our combat system retarded, and why are all our players casuals now?

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>>168605310
>why should we have insta-win guns
>why are all our players casuals now?

I swear, its like you can't detect irony, fags who can't handle slow obvious telegraphed stunning projectiles you can duck complaining about how they can't try and kill a fully armored person while calling everyone casual.

Hey, dumbass, you want skill in combat, make a rest macro and get good at yakketi, learn to lube extinguisher and make stunprods, saying to ignore balance in cqc because you are more "skilled" in it is a joke, in any server you get tased and you are out, we just skip the easy picking after you get in paincrit and can only walk.

Fucking scrubs calling others scrubs just to get a busted cqc system.

>>168604894
best waste of 30 minutes from my time

>>168605772
>wahhh why should we have actual fighting muh lube muh stuns

Fuck off, faggot. You're part of the problem.

C R E A T I N E

>>168606038
G A I N S

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>>168605873
>waaa why can't I stunlock people and slit throats with ease and completely cheese close quarters combat, what is balance, he is just salty he can't be as "robust" as me

Yes anon, grab joint lock glass shard to the neck is "robust", now go play back in your high rp containment server and let the actually robust players dunk retards like you who need massive buffs to the melee system to be good.

Idea for next tator tot run that will let me solo kill everyone on the station: get hulk mutation, then make lube, grab a tazer, and use the medical malpractice.

If I get stunned, I'll just hulk out.

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>>168606174
>stuns are robust
the ironing

>>168606174
>implying high rp means you can't be robust
ok, what

>>168606314
>Being able to cqc stun against a opponent with ranged stuns isn't robust

Being robust isn't just making a sprite horizontal, its resourcefulness. Being able to yakketi and dodge ranged stuns alongside being prepared enough to stun and incapacitate oponents are crucial parts of it.
>>168606379
You really think the people that main servers where Me" "is used more than a toolbox an be properly robust, especially when they forbid greyshittery or "ooc" behaviour.

>>168607006
>waahhh RP is bad VG is le deathmatch server for robusty people *drops stolen clown PDA and stungloves you*

Just go back to Hippie, faggot.

>>168607120
So, what's the difference between Stunglubbs and Bay's CQC, if you think about it?

>>168607370
One requires skill, the other easy crafting

>>168607006
>implying violence will solve everything
>implying using me is bad
I don't get what is wrong with denying greytiding. Robust means more than just being able to smash some guys shit in, you know.

>>168606174
A year ago this would be obvious trolling.

Today it's a serious post.

>>168607474
What's the skill?

>>168607526
I never said it was all it was anon. Robust is more than making sprites horizontal, said it before.
>>168607474
>skill
Come on now anon.
>>168607120
Never been there and I rp here often enough, saying Im hippie is as true as tits being bad

>>168607672
Okay, well being robust and roleplaying are not mutually exclusive

>>168607672
You have yet to actually explain what kind of 'skill' is involved in /vg/'s current combat system aside from 'le dodge and lube' meme.

>>168607596
>>168607672
Pins can be easily resisted out of and last a lot less than stungloves whilst also needing you to get them down in the first place.

Stun gloves are easy to make and take a single click to stun and kill. NOT robust.

>>168607852
How long does it take to resist out of a pin?

This is your waifu tonight.

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>>168608072
Are you rin?

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>>168606174
>B-but muh balance

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>>168608241

>>168608072
A few seconds, like 3

>>168606174
>muh balance
Fuck your balance. Balance is for sissy faggots who want everything to be easy and fair.
Space should not be fair, space should not be balanced, and space definitely should not be easy.
Space combat ergo, should be a brutal fuckfest of flying toolboxes and greyshits beating eachother with their fists, bones snapping and skulls fracturing, not straight lines of spammed taser bolts and hallways filled with lube with the occasional person sawing someone's head off because their victim got put on a table.