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Rainbow Six Siege General - /r6g/

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stay frosty edition

>/r6g/ FAQ, Guide, and Links (Newfriends, read this first before asking questions)
http://pastebin.com/Wi0PwtYw

>/r6g/ OP Pastebin & Groups
http://pastebin.com/gWcgwQyJ
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/R6GO
PS4: Add dazint8
Xbone: Add IMadSpykeI

>/r6g/ Drawfriend Galleries
http://r6gdrawfriends.booru.org/
http://imgur.com/a/rVmZG

>Teamspeak for /r6g/ operations
OperatorOperations.teamspeak.host
The password is: Operations
IP address: 159.203.29.41:9988

>Official News & Known Issues
Velvet Shell is OUT
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/updates/velvetshell/index.aspx
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1569348-Rank-Changes-in-Y2S1
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1332624-Top-Priorities-and-Known-Issues-Updated-1-4-2017

Friendly mission successful: >>168477885
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first for h
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DO NOT BUY THE STARTER EDITION

>DO NOT BUY THE STARTER EDITION

DO NOT BUY THE STARTER EDITION

so sorry i forgot to put it in the OP
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>>168557848
copying? you did use the OP pastebin right?
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SEASON PASS FOR SOMEONE WHO PLAYS ABOUT 4-5 GAMES A DAY

YES/NO
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>>168557907
maybe not
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>>168557926

Yeah that seems like a season pass thing
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>>168557926
how much is 30$ to you
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>>168558078
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THAT DOESN'T SO FUCKING
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>>168558342
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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>>168558342
jewbisoft
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>>168558017
Not much
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>>168558342
>>168558364
>>168558379


> seasonal weapon skins are only available for operators who were present for the season

i fail to see the problem here.
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Smoke is gassy!

Toot toot!

He loves to poot!

Oh yeah!

He's got the gas!

Brap brap brrrrt!
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>>168558507
>seasonal weapons
>when two of the seasonal weapons were labeled as "universal"
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>>168558507
"Universal"
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>>168558507
>UNIVERSAL
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>>168558507
>what is consistency
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>>168558342
>>168558364
>>168558379
New Ops never had the last season skins on launch same with the shitty Uplay Elephant Skin they will be added later
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>>168558596

>>168513658
>We will be changing the name to provide more clarity.
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>>168558596
>>168558626
>>168558691
>>168558786


well okay, i guess that would make a bit more sense as to why you'd be pissed. i always just thought of them as seasonal weapon skins. kinda like they were souvenirs for the operators for the operations they'd been on, so it wouldn't make sense for the geo to equip the skull rain seasonal when they weren't part of it. even then the S3 + S4 + S5 can still be put on a lot of weapons.
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>>168558916
>>168558507
What is universal?
I bought skins under the impression that because they were universal I could use them with s2, if they give me my RP back I'll accept it was just a fuck up and not them trying to jew me for every last penny they can
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>>168559027
wow, thank you so much for "clarifying" after you've took my money and had TWO FUCKING seasons to clarify
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>>168558583
>wojaks literally killing ISIS frogposters
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>>168558916
>they will be added later
But they won't

>>168559027
>We will be changing the name to provide more clarity
>It's okay that we lied for 2 seasons because we're gonna stop lying soon
I've never been the one to say this, but fuck off Ubishills.
This is not defendable behavior
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you're all fuckwits. how did you not realise this when the S3 skins didn't transfer over to the S4 operators. you have nobody but yourselves to blame and have no reason to act surprised by this at all.
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>>168559513
and that excuses this behavior how?
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>>168559513
>nobody but yourselves to blame
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>>168559626
>>168559643
when had a previous seasonal skin ever been applicable to the following seasons ops?

black ice to dust line? nope
dust line to skull rain? nope
skull rain to red crow? nope
and now
red crow to velvet shell? nope

seriously you're acting like this is some sort of shocking surprise and that you were robbed, but frankly the only thing that seems to be missing is your critical thinking.
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>>168560082
nice "universal" skin you got there
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>>168560242
> t-the large multinational corporation lied to me??
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My best friend Thatcher died in a spawn peek 10 seconds into the round. He's dead and gone. Favela was his favorite map. I'm gonna build him a fully destructible building. You don't have to be an operator to be an Earth Rocker. Blitz is an Earth Rocker. My other best friend Twitch is on the other side of the map droning again. She's droning for roamers for the 16th time. Good luck with that one. I'm sick of the bull shit. I'm sick of all the shit. I don't queue for ranked anymore, cause I hate every mother fucker, I don't care what their strat is. 2 minutes I wasted, waiting by the reinforced wall, chit chatting with fucking nobodies. Now I just Ash main, like a fucking third world shitter. Not gonna take any shit from anybody. I know what's going on, I got setup, I got spawn peeked. Thank god t.astro wasn't there to watch me get my fucking ass kicked. He would have wound up with a team kill and probably ragequit. He has a big mouth. I live for this shit, I love it. Bring it the fuck on. Siege is a bitch mother fuck.. WOAH WOAH WOAAAAAAHHH!!! Can you hear the call for the wasted and the wounded WOAH WOAH WOAAAAAAH We're wasted and wounded WASTED AND WOUNDED!!!!!!
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>>168560369
yes, and? posting a smug animegirl while stuttering doesn't suddenly turn the shit you typed into an argument
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>>168560534
if you had paid actual money for them then i might see a reason to be mad, but 95% are complaining that they want their renown back, so yeah, no sympathy from me. it was all very clear and i can't understand how you missed it.
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>>168560082
>black ice to dust line? nope
>dust line to skull rain? nope
you dumbass nigger, none of the "Seasonal" skins for those seasons were listed as "UNIVERSAL" they were listed as just "SEASONAL". You bought them gun by gun, of course they aren't gonna be applicable to guns you don't buy them for, dumb shit.
The only thing you have right is Skull Rain to Red Crow, but that's probably because most of the skins for that season weren't good enough, so not enough people bought them and no one noticed. Literally not buying the skins means I wouldn't have known, because I didn't buy any universal skins until Red Crow, which I did in half because I expected to be able to use them on guns going into the future.
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>They finally add a good purplish skin
>won't be useable on next season onward operators

If the regular purple skin didn't look like bright glassy shit I wouldn't be so upset about it.
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>>168560736
who the fuck even wants your sympathy, is this what you thought this whole conversation was about, very clear my ass, in order for a person to find out they're not actually universal is for a person to have bought skull rain "universal" skins, if a person only like the red crow "universal" skins under the presumption that they are actually universal, there would be no way for them to find out
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>>168560460
this boy is the only earth rocker i know
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so, wait, everyone's talking about universal skins
but nobody bothers to mention that the peacock and fire skins for some reason work on every goddamn season but Skull Rain and Red Crow

i mean, why the hell skip two seasons, then pick it back up?
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>>168559061
UNIVERSAL SKINS ARE UNIVERSAL
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>>168560960
why dont they make the skins available for the next seasons ops?
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>>168561345
I'd presume it's because the effort it would take would grow exponentially with each season added
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>>168561223
because they are universal but not seasonal.

everybody's bitching about the seasonal universal skins.
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>>168561345
Because "Fuck you."
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>>168561345
> hey frank we need to you to make sure that the skin looks alright for the 150+ guns we have.

honestly that would just encourage skins like enamoured which are low effort easily applicable skins.
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>The seasonal universal skins are seasonal but not universal, but the universal seasonal skins are universal and seasonal except for when they're not universal and just seasonal
Now what I wanna know is

where's the caveman.
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>>168561223
>peacock and fire
Probably because those are essentially free; you didn't have to spend game time on them.
Also they're shit
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>>168557926
No
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>>168561558
Yeah, but a seasoned texture guy, or whatever the role is called, shouldn't break a sweat putting textures on a gun
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>>168560736
Holy shit, fuck off you autist, people are annoyed that their universal skins aren't universal. If anything them being listed at limited skins would make more sense but Ubi cares more about adding bullshit to the game rather than fixing any issues.
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Fuck skins, what's everyone's opinion on the planned 50-100 operators?
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>>168561345
>ubisoft
>putting anything besides just below the barest amount of effort into siege
lol
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>>168562692
>Trust jewbisoft
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>>168562692
disastrous, if they don't start hotfixing shit faster it's going absolutely ruin everything

imagine they release these new ops and they absolutely ruin everything, balance, dynamic between ops and making the game a fucking disaster, we'd have to wait weeks to MONTHS for things to get fixed
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>>168558507
Why even care desu? Nobody cares about exclusivity.

Just sell the skins year round
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>>168562692
Getting to 50 total operators is plausible
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>>168562692

I mean were hitting 36 so 50 isnt really totally out there

We dont have

Medic attacker

Decoy noise maker

Motion sensor
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>>168562692
ubisoft can't even fix gamebreaking shit for the few ops they do have

there's no fucking way they can manage 50
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>>168563092

Is medic attacker the new dog meme?
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>Ubisoft can't even balance obviously OP or broken operators
>Wants to create a delicate ecosystem of 50+ dudes who are all "balanced"

How long until we get a wall breached better than Hibana?
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>>168563215
>Is [plausible idea] the new dog meme?
People latch onto it because it at least makes sense.
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>>168563332
>hibana pellets work roughly 50% of the time
I'd say a better breacher is pretty easy
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>>168563215

Fucking really? Medic attacker is not to far out there

You people either bitch its unrealistic or its not viable

Fuck you I want a medic attacker and a melee only riot shield with tear gas
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>>168563215
after we get the anti-anti-breachers
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>it's a stack of 5 clanfags in casual episode
>they talk shit and can't handle the bantz
>ended up getting shit on and damage control

Clanfag genocide when?
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>>168562942
My biggest issue is when I saw that first trailer I wasn't imagining some Spanish fuck tracking magic footprints through walls and some bullshit drone that shoots with enough force to destroy itself, admittedly the rappelling and sledge's hammer make no sense but my suspension of disbelief can only extend so far.
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>>168563401
>>168563092

You faggots are part of the problem fuck off ubishills no 50 operators for you
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*flashes red*
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>50+ ops
>Blitz still not fixed
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>>168563569
>YOU HAVE BEEN SPOTTED
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>>168563543

Now I want 50 operators with the most out there of gadgets just to spite you assholes for complaining about it
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>>168563617
he's never getting fixed, it's time to face reality, he's ""working" "as" "intended""
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>>168563543

Were ubishills for wanting a medic attacker?

Are you okay anon?
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>>168563092
Do we need that shit though? Will situational trash really add to the experience that siege presents, or will it make it more like some cheap run of the mill MOBA shooter? Siege brings something unique to the table as far as shooters go and I really see it as an evolution of the barebones elements that made CS so popular, I really don't understand how cramming in more operators will improve the game.
I'd say the best bet would be adding in this year's 8 and then adding in more maps, that's where the strategic variation comes in.
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the twitch drone buff was a little much desu

sure it makes the drone easier to spot, but the fact that half my team can die before the round even start is really unacceptable
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>>168563658
Go play league or overwatch then, there's character based games out there if you want them, let siege be it's own thing.
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>>168564063

Siege is literally a character based game though
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>>168563959

Its all about fun anon. I dont like different flavor same thing operators ubisoft wants to do plus shooting will always be important so I dont get this MOBA shit

but we really do need

>Motion Sensor

>Medic attacker

>Melee only riot shield with tear gas

>Booby trap operator around the idea of rigged barricades if someone were to place a breach charge or fuze cluster on a barricade it blows up its loud as fuck though

>Non lethal Fuze

>Special flash bang grenades
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>>168563995
>twitch drone gun
>shoots out taser rounds
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>>168563995
am I not getting something? what does that picture have to do with her drone buff
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>>168564148

This I dont get these "NO FUN ALLOWED" guys I fucking love different and new operator shit even if its "ITS NOT RANKED APPROVED REEEEEE ITS GIMMICKS!!!!"
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Literally had someone vibrate through my shield to appear behind me as Monty when I was in a doorway. What the fuck is with the collision detection in this game?
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>>168564148
>Melee only riot shield with tear gas
Stop this shit. This is a game about guns.
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>>168564286
rifle mounted on a drone
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>>168564148
>tear gas

How about an operator with tear gas, a tazer and a pepperball gun
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>>168564361

Tear gas atleast?
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>>168564364
oh shit
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>>168564405
>>168564379

>Non Lethal shit

Fuck off to overwatch or a MOBA this shit is a meme we already have smoke
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what about an operator with a bayonet

they can have other shit to make them worthwhile too but they also have a bayonet
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>>168564692
now one must ask themselves this question, why?
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>>168564485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwq6fomBY3g

Calm down man Tear gas is not meant to kill and would mostly be used for attackers.

Throw this shit into an objective and it blurs peoples vision making them cough all that jazz.

Its not really that out there of an idea and on top of it they could make it a cool M203 or under barrel launcher attachment

You people seem like the kind of guys who would make a game where everyone looks the same they all use the same 4 guns and only play on like 4 maps.
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>>168564732
fun

extended melee range and its faster than normal melee and breaks a barricade in two hits
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>>168564485
you realise cav has a technically not lethal pistol, right?
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>>168564692
Its a travesty the SAS don't have bayonets anyway, even if it makes no difference to melee.
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>>168564485

Man I had no idea people hate change in this general
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>>168563959
>>168563658
>>168564148
50 operators would only work if the basics of Attack and Defense, like breaching reinforcements and preventing said breaches, were already covered by almost all of any given attacker or defender.
But the fact that there are some ops that are more important or almost necessary means that there will always be the "shit list" of operators that have "bad" guns or situational gadgets compared to more important counterparts, and in high level play (and that doesn't mean pro) the "I want to win because winning is more fun than getting stomped" strats will revolve around a small pool of operators instead of the whole cast. It's just not realistic to expect even 25 out of 50 operators to all get even halfway even pickrates, let alone 100.
I'd much rather have around 20 ops per team at most, and continue to rework characters until they all feel more balanced around each other.
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>>168564846
but being useful doesn't stop an op from being fun, who the fuck even bring a bayonet when sieging a building
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>>168565073

Just make everyone over powered
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What about making tachanka a attacker, seems he would be more useful that way.
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>>168565145
nah its not their main gimmick its a side gimmick, like how mira and jackal get a shotgun as a secondary
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>>168564148
>>168564692
>>168565145
I feel like really minuscule shit like bayonets or tear gas is stuff that should be offered as gadgets to already existing ops, not shoehorned in as new Operators.
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>>168565271
make him the first 4 armor operator with a hand held machine gun instead of a tripod
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>>168565308
oh, then that might be cool, but still who even brings a bayonet anymore
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>>168563959
>MOBA shooter
Stop saying this retarded shit. Assfaggots didn't invent character-specific abilities/meta/counters/whatever.
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>>168565317

Ehh I personally think its better so people dont complain about MOBA shit and ubi gets it 50 operators
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Instead of adding 50+ ops why not
>Add more gadgets
>New gadget system; you can now bring more than one type of gadget, but they have different equip costs and maximum equips
>New attachments
>Make the angled grip more viable
>new sights
>some crossover between the RU and NATO sight options
>New guns for old operators
>More rebalances on current guns
and it's funny that more than half of these things won't happen, despite it costing less money than new ops every 3 months
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>>168565668
I honestly don't think Ubisoft is going to have any problems coming up with 50 ops, but implementing them, now that's the real problem
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>>168565326
>4 armor
>headshoted to death
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>>168565867
he'd still have his shield though
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>>168564148
Siege is already fun man, I don't see how anyone could disagree. All I'm saying is that Ubi should improve on what makes the game good, consequence driven gameplay based around team tactics, you can win a 5 man recruit rush if your whole team is baller.
I'm all for a few more operators but the game at its core (to me at least) is about map knowledge and team communication, and adding too many operators (and a pick/ban list like a lot of people are asking for) will ruin the flavour of the gameplay.
All that being said, if Ubi REALLY wanted to add variety to operator choice, they'd hit a more modest operator count and just start adding in alternative special gadgets. I don't know how they'd fully implement it but something like in the select phase choosing either lethal or flashy fuze charges, OR giving thermite a few big close range breaches or hibanas gun (I know this idea is arguably more cancer but it adds variety without becoming TOO ridiculous imo).
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How long do the Valentine's Day challenges run for?
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>>168566015
Next Tuesday
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>>168564316
It just shows that Ubi is going after that overwatch money, siege is good because it's unique why spoil that?
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>>168565734
Are you me?
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>>168566062
Sweet. The camo has the right amount of goofy looking and aesthetic.
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>>168565308
Side gimmick? I can't believe cunts like you are probably going to be what dictates Ubi's next few moves concerning this game.
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>>168566256
Yeah
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>>168566373
like they even care what we think, we're all just having fun spitballing here
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From what I gather

People are scared they dont want siege to die over some retarded patch since /r6g/ is made up of multiple dead generals.

Correct isn't it?
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>>168565734
>Add more gadgets
>New attachments
>More rebalances on current guns
These things have already happened
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I think a tear gas attacker would be good for this game, especially on hostage.

Throw a grenade into the objective, gas spreads around objects so you won't get fucked over like you do with flashbangs, defenders (even Smoke) get heavily blurred and darkened vision with absolutely no HUD for 10 seconds if they touch the cloud. It might even lead to accidental TKs in your favour during the panic.
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>it's an other players on you team on defense try to peek people who are outside the objective room and get picked off episode
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>>168565073
I always kinda compare Siege to Dark Souls, you really need to know what's up to start fully enjoying it and once you do you can wreck constantly.
There's always going to be some standard way to win but the real fun is when you just ultra dick on someone with some retarded ass bullshit they wouldn't expect.
I don't think that adding more operators to mildly add to the games appeal should be their next move, it makes the game more like chess as opposed to a dynamic experience where you need a skill/ knowledge combo to do well.
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>>168566678
Where did I say they didn't?
I want them to keep doing those things, how was that not clear?
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>>168566765

Even all the SAS cant get affected by it imo it should be given to the SDU who (I hope) have a gas mask theme
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Real talk tho, why aren't all SAS operators immune to Smoke's canisters?
Also, why doesn't Thatcher interfere will all attacking gadgets?
Finally, why can't IQ see gun sights? Would add incentive to use iron sights and make her not absolute trash.
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>>168566940
>and it's funny that more than half of these things won't happen
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>>168567017
cuz
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>>168566765
Smoke shouldn't and wouldn't be affected. He's wearing a full on NBC suit which is why he's the only OP not affected by his gas.
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>>168567076
Ah yeah, too true.
Seriously but, for a realistic shooter there's heaps of small shit that bugs me, like what's the deal with multiplayer, why are they fighting themselves? Is there any other ones, i can't remember atm.
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>>168567237
its a simulation, ol' clancy didn't want people to be able to play terrorists
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>>168567017
>>168567237

The other SAS have weak ass gas masks and are mostly like filters

Smoke has a full filtration system

In the alpha they werent affected by it but it was deemed to OP
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>>168567017
>Real talk tho, why aren't all SAS operators immune to Smoke's canisters?
They're not wearing a closed filtration system like Smoke does
>Also, why doesn't Thatcher interfere will all attacking gadgets?
That would be fucking annoying that's why. It already destroys Fuze's cluster charge for some reason.
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>>168567017
>why can't IQ see gun sights?
Gee I dunno anon, why can't she be Pulse on Attack but with even more utility?
Just kidding, it'd only be making all optics utter trash and making IQ useful for 3 days at most until players realize how much of a risk she is and unequip their shit.
Sorry, but don't ever balance games anon.

>>168567056
Alright anon, since you seem to not understand, let me lay it out for you:
I know they already happened, and the exact tense I used was future. See: "will not" rather than "did not" or "have not".
I also don't expect them to do "more than half" of those things ever again, which is why I said "more than half".
And lastly, you listed three of eight things I listed myself, which is three eights, and unfortunately less than half.
But keep at it anon, your reading comprehension and math skills will get better someday.
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>>168567017
>Thatcher can EMP tritium sights
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>>168567521
Right, so you're just being pretentious assuming shit of what the devs might not do in the future.
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Post Big Guys.
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>>168567017
>why can't IQ see gun sights

Because then everyone would use only the ACOG and the Reflex sight since those are fiber optics + tritium and not electronic???
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>>168567521
Good job ignoring the underlying point of both posts
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>>168566373
>implying having a pocket shotgun isnt an existing side gimmick
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>>168568016
so I know that acog are fiber optics and tridium but what makes the others glow
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>>168568089
Implying I'm okay with the past few operators at all.
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>>168567113
Tachanka is also wearing a helmet that protects against low caliber pistol rounds but still goes down in one shot like everyone else. In this game balance comes before authenticity.
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>>168568227
stop playing then, you'll do everyone involved a service. including yourself, probably.
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>>168568016
>>168567645
See these should both be taken into account it's weird that these things aren't addressed by the in game mechanics
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>>168568212
The reflex / triangle sight is also fiber optic + tritium - they have an electronic one as well, but the one in the game is the fiber/trit version

The Aimpoint and Eotech are both electronic, however, and I believe all the Russian optics are 100% electronic
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>>168568395
Thanks for informing the uneducated
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>>168568312
Why would I stop playing? It's easily one of my favourite games ever, just gets irritating that low attention span dipshits want to clog the game up with literal gimmicks.
Seriously go watch the original trailer and tell me that it doesn't look bomb as fuck, admittedly changes had to occur to make the game viable as a game but it doesn't need to morph itself into some free toplay garbage to survive.
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I LIKE THE NEW MAP AND I WANT TO PLAY IT, LET ME PLAY IT
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT!!!!!
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>>168568294
Who gives a fuck about Tachanka
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>>168567861
There's no precedent for more than half of the shit that I listed. The three (3) things they have done aren't something they're probably gonna do INSTEAD of making new ops for 3 more years if they actually give a shit about their self-imposed Op-count goal.
Why would they add guns to old ops if they've literally never done it before and want to save new guns for new ops?
Why would they make a new gadget equip system? It's not an obvious thing to do and it'd cost more time that could be spent on new ops.
Why would they add new gadgets constantly if they're trying to add up to 50 ops? They'd only be "wasting" their ideas for gadgets for new ops by giving them to old ones, even if they were small ideas.
If Ubi's gonna reach their big number for how many ops they want to add, they're not going to have the time, money, or creativity to focus on doing that AND adding and reshuffling the core game mechanics and equip systems, it's just not realistic.
And yes, I assume that since they literally said they want to add as many ops as possible, that they're going to do that, which I don't want.

>>168568049
>Why isn't realism favored over balance?
>Why isn't IQ overpowered for the sake of realism and "because she'd be better"?
and
>Stop assuming the devs aren't going to do things they've either never done or done one time instead of adding lots of new ops, which they've flat-out stated they want to do

I fail to see what I missed
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>>168568619
i sort of understand, but thats just how the progression of these games work. they already covered all the basics, they have to branch out to things that are less useful and more situational and at some point its going to seem like just a gimmick. honestly though, the most recent ops have a fine niche. echo kinda sucks but thats about it.
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>>168568710
Me
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>>168568624
New map is fucking ace, cool play style and the whole feel of the map is awesome.
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>>168568795
I think you took a wrong turn at Albuquerque

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/
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>>168568821
yeah, I'm really liking it too, WHEN I GET TO FUCKING PLAY IT
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Guys.

>smoke
>throws gas bombs
>apart of the SAS
>rearrange SAS and get A SS

Smoke is nazi
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>>168569038
His gas is also the same stuff the White Masks used at Bartlett. I wonder where they got that?
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>>168569038
wow, the guy with the gas grenades was a nazi, who would've thunk
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>>168568789
Most games tend to try and add variance into their game modes, which is why COD and Halo ended up with No Respawn style CSGO rules on a number of playlists that are fan favorites.

Even on Halo I hate shit like Team SWAT but people like that retarded shit.

Siege's problem is they have said they never, ever want to evolve the mechanics. So maybe in some new hypothetical gamemode someone like IQ would be a top tier pick, but that will never be the case (think how Fuze is good in Defuse / Secure but a no no pick in Hostage)

Even Team Fortress has learned they have to add new shit over time, and Overwatch is desperately trying to find some new niche. Every time CS releases a new version of itself, it's usually subtly but drastically different than before. CSGO is nowhere close to Source, but on the surface it looks the same.

In many ways it requires a lot of skill (and money) to make a good product, and then to continue making it even better and better. This dev team has neither skill nor money.
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>>168568710
>>168568894
Anyone that wants all ops that are already in the game to at least serve a purpose at most levels of play.
In short, people that want the game to be balanced.
>only Reddit wants that XD go back!!!
If you don't want the game to be balanced properly, you're welcome to fuck off bitch-boi

>>168568789
Adding new ops that are situational only works if there aren't ops that are almost always useful.
Valk and Hibana pretty much permanently take up one slot on their respective teams in all medium-to-high level play, and the more ops they add, the more chances of another Valk or Hibana tier operator being added to each team that takes up another slot, partially removing the element of choice and making the meta more stale.
I'd be fine with them adding many more operators if I didn't already have reason to be afraid of this outcome. Even at launch there were ops you could almost never do without, and with a game with only 5 players per team, this really removes flexibility, and in turn, a lot of the point of having 25 ops to pick from on either side.
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>>168568724
Wasn't a complaint about balance against realism, was a general question regarding the consistency of the in game rules not a balance suggestion. The IQ one specifically was just a comment on how mild changes to the games logic would likely impact gameplay for the better(imo), I know that such a change might make her OP but there are sights that don't run battery power.
As for that other one, I agree fully with >>168565734 but it seems like old mate was taking the piss and you went full sperg lord on him.
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>>168569181
Those games have a bigger population that can sustain breaking up their player base.
Siege cannot afford that
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>>168568894
i know you frequent it
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>>168569473
Chicken or the egg problem bro, maybe Siege doesn't have a good player base cause people don't stick around due to lack of variety.
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>>168569540
either way, breaking up the player base now wouldn't ruin it further with the already existing matchmaking problems
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>>168569443
I'd love for all the OPs to be balanced but Ubisoft has proven that will never ever happen. Blitz and the Spetsnaz minus Fuze are forever doomed to mediocrity and broken hitboxes.
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>tfw Plat III
>matched with some guys much higher level than me
>struggle for the first few rounds
>start popping the fuck off later
>double overtime match point 4k with rook
>the other team was mostly diamond
>mfw
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>>168568901
Ubi really needs to sort their shit out, got stuck in a fucking staircase the other day and fell through the map, was then removed from match.
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>>168569443
Frankly Hibana needs to lose her claymore, Thermite needs breaching charges as a choice again, and maybe buff Thermites gun damage

Valk should have lost her Nitrocell after they realized Frost isn't getting picked anymore, and given it back to Frost, which would make her a decent pick again and Valk less of an obvious, do everything pick.

The problem isn't so much that Operators are too strong in what they do, it's that they are too strong plus have more versatility than everyone else.
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>>168569605
>wouldn't
oops, meant would
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>>168569605
I don't think we're suggesting 900 fucking game modes, but even adding a fourth "Siege" mode and more interesting shit in T Hunt would go a long way to bringing people back in.

There are a lot of obvious improvements - I've seen it suggested and also put it forward myself that Ubisoft needs to ban repeat quitters from ranked until the end of a season, but they will never do that, and I don't know why. The fuck is a 10 minute renown penalty really going to do?
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>>168569680
>Valk should have lost her Nitrocell

No. If anything Bandit, Kapkan and Mute should lose theirs and make nitro an "intel" based thing.
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>>168569781
they might implement something like that in the future when the player base is big enough, I don't think they need to sweat it now since the data did show that the player base is growing
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>>168569809
>No

She's one of the most obviously useful Defenders and she has amazing intel because impossible to find cameras + no downside guns + a nitrocell, so why should she keep all of those things when some operators get far less?

>>168569897
Please link the data. They've only ever put out one chart and the spike was on a free weekend
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>>168569605
>>168569683
I can't why they aren't just pumping out maps instead of ops (aside from the fact you can't buy headgear and PREMIUMâ„¢ uniforms for a map).
Player base remains intact, fewer Sci Fi operators, new tactics.
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>>168569809
>Kapkan should lose c4

Are you actually retarded?
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>>168569987
Why should Frost get nitro? She has better guns than Valkyrie and welcome mat downs are 100% more frequent than EDD kills. Frost isn't some 0% pick rate like Blitz or Tachanka.
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>>168569781
>I don't think we're suggesting 900 fucking game modes, but even adding a fourth "Siege" mode and more interesting shit in T Hunt would go a long way to bringing people back in.

100% man, whilst I'm hesitant about a fourth "Siege" mode possibly being some meme ass garbage more T hunt would be the fucking bomb.
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>>168569987
during the rainbow six siege they did show the chart of the player base growing, and the last spike of player was during the red crow release during december before the free weekend
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>>168569469
Hey, thanks for being somewhat reasonable anon.
I understand your points of inconsistency, but I much prefer mild inconsistency/unrealistic representation over poor or annoying gameplay.
There was an anon many, many threads ago that was bitching about how Kapkan and Frost traps weren't triggered by friendlies because it was "unrealistic", and that's an extreme example, but I disagree with it for the same reasons.
I can't really see many ways you could improve consistency or believability of most gadget interactions without introducing major issues related to overpunishment, or when new players get their hands on shit. Imagine Thatchers throwing Emps while you were already breaching as Thermite and Hibana just because they didn't know better or weren't being aware. It's really not worth introducing those risks that could potentially annoy players out of wanting to even play.
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>>168570141
>Frost
>Not 0%
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>>168570262
fucking forgetting the most important part
*during the six invitational
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>Kitchen on Coastline

all positive all fuze all the time
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>>168570262
Where is the chart and why has nobody been posting this shit?
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>>168570370
Pro pick rates don't represent the average player, they only pick based on min maxing. Your average Joe is going to pick whoever they feel like playing and Frost has no where near a 2% pick rate in the actual game.
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>>168570328
I dunno man, I personally would love some shit like that but yeah each his own and some shit would be game breaking (though custom matches should really be able to add this stuff in, especially on tac real).
I just wish there was some more lore(or.less autistic equivalent) / in game descriptions as to why stuff sorta works how it does, I mean, they fucking gave a full story explaining why the smg lost its ACOG and where Chanka got his shield but not one for why any of the main game mode exists within that universe.
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>>168570637
>conjecture, the post

You also are arguing like min/max-ing is not the natural end state of a competitive experience, or that the casual pick rates don't mirror the competitive ones far more often than not.
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>>168570478
found it, no numbers as usual, people were posting during the invitational
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>>168570637
>>168570796
People are gonna play however they feel, recruit squads are the most fun, doesn't mean that they're pro viable
If people want to go ham in ranked they can, but that doesn't mean that the entire game should be based around pro league picks.
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>>168570796
>or that the casual pick rates don't mirror the competitive ones far more often than not.

They fucking don't. Frost is good and I don't understand why you've become her torchbearer when there are objectively broken characters in this game that see almost no play even in Casual.
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>>168570802
Super interesting. That last spike is less explainable than all the others. There was a big steam sale on Siege but, still very interesting.
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>>168571052
yep, I both wish and dread siege's popularization
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>>168570962
>people ironically choose bad operators for the funs
>this somehow means they aren't objectively unbalanced

Does this mean Tachanka should have never gotten buffed, despite a lifetime <1% pick rate, because he was memelorded by Reddit and regularly picked by them for funs?

>>168571048
They actually did and when the stats site was up you could actually see the majority of operators had similar pick rates to where they would be on the global data, with one or two outliers who had a massive difference (ie Kapkan having 8% pickrate compared to 0%)... but the majority lined up
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is the window west of blue bar bugged? i tried surprising a monty camping the window but couldnt jump back in after
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>>168571052
>>168571154
Yeah, the games spreading on word of mouth but as more people join I'm fearing Ubi will get(more) money hungry and tank the game to broaden it's appeal.
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Hey /r6g/, an update on the shotgun analysis. I've tested the M870 without a laser sight (for the popular GSG9 recruit on attack or defense), the Supernova, and half of the ITA-12L most recently. The results might not be as what you might expect.

The M870 without a laser didn't perform as well as the other original two pump shotguns as you might guess, but even with ADS it couldn't reliably take down targets like the others.

The Supernova was fucking awful in hipfire, which is a shock because I expected it to be the best performing pump action in the game. The reason why you have to get super close in hipfire is because of the spread. The shotgun has great damage, good range, but unreliable shit spread that can end up leaving someone standing after the first shot.

So far, the ITA-12L is looking good. It seems like it's pretty similar to the SG-CQB which has a balance of damage and range.

I'm still doing some more testing tonight, if you'd like to help out then come join the co-op games channel in the teamspeak. A mic isn't necessary for testing, you only need to sit still in one spot.
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>>168571235
>mfw ubisoft never updated the pick percentage site and eventually took it down because they were tired of people making data driven arguments about their shit balancing
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>>168571235
>Does this mean Tachanka should have never gotten buffed

Who said anything that implied that? Tachanka still needs a buff, Frost doesn't need a buff just because people don't pick your waifu as much as you'd like them to.
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>>168569809
>>168569987
Valk is so good because she offers the most risk-free intel of any defender, and having 3 cams makes it much less fragile compared to Echo, who would optimally be her only competition.
Taking her Nitro would give her at least one weakness, and force her to rely on teamwork if she wants to punctualize on her intel.
The only other way to make her less of a must-pick is to give her more competition that thrives based on either different playstyles or situational usage, like if they were to buff echo or give a new op another unique intel ability.
And the only way to keep stacking intel ops from being too powerful would be to keep them from having certain tools or utilities that only non-intel ops would be able to bring, like c4 or impact nades for example.

>>168571048
Frost being picked occassionally in casual, and just more than the actually broken or borderline useless ops doesn't mean she's "fine", it just means she's not at the bottom of the barrel. She could still use buffs or tweaks to give her more flexibility, because there are many other ops that do more important or useful jobs than her and she'll naturally fall out of favor if people play to win.
But other ops obviously do need buffs more, I'm not arguing otherwise.
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>>168571235
No it means that frost doesn't need a buff for no reason, people should pick who they want and just dick on people by being good. They probably took down the stats so idiots like you would shut up and stop acting like other people's pick rates are the be all and end all.
Seriously if the players can't shake up their own meta organically why even play? It just becomes some shitty pick fest where the game becomes less dynamic.
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>>168571506
>People don't pick a character as much as others
>Therefore they are perfectly balanced
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>>168571356
>SAS shotgun kills at 10 meters

What the fuck? I've never been able to kill anyone with that shotgun except at point blank.
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>>168571556
Frost could use a mild buff, maybe, but cunts act like nitro is all that matters
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>>168571686
>the rate in which people pick characters in no way is not casually linked
>or even correlated
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>>168571694
>>168571829
>i have no arguments left so let me greentext and use reaction images
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>>168571356
The M870 is my fucking waifu and anyone who likes anything else is a troll autist.
Only other acceptable side bitch is the SG-CQB.
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>>168571934
I mean if you understood how statistics work you would realize you actually don't have an argument, but I digress.
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>>168571989
>Relying on meme numbers
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>>168572103
>objective data is a meme

AYYYYYYYYYYY LMAO
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>>168571934
But anon, if you refuse all arguments and statistics as being "bullshit" or "meme numbers" people aren't going to have arguments left at the end of the day, and all people will have left is amazement at how stubborn and stupid you're being.
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Personally

The game should not balance itself around esports
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>>168571829
>>168571989
I'm (>>168571686) saying that idiots like you cling to other people's picks instead of playing in an interesting way, why make the game boring for yourself? I'm not saying that you shouldn't play to win, I'm saying why even play if you're just playing on autopilot with popular characters.
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>>168572162
Pro League pick rates do not reflect on the player base as a whole. Frost is picked a decent amount in Casual and Ranked. She gets 100% more welcome mat downs than Kapkan does EDD kills. Frost has one of the best SMGs in the game and a decent pistol but this is not enough because other ops are better at doing a completely different thing?
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>>168572240
No one's arguing you should only play ops that other people pick, people are only arguing that it shows ops need to be buffed to have balanced viability, you dumb autist.
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>>168571356
The Super Nova is trash, don't know why everyone seems to like it. The time it takes to pump is too long, I always get killed before I can even get a second shot off.
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>>168572226
I agree, mostly
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Posting the pro league stats is starting to get on my nerves here

Everytime someone posts it it devolves into arguments
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>>168572439
I'm starting to get annoyed by Frostniggers begging for their waifu to get a buff.
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>>168572402
See >>168572334
Any character is viable, just adapt, stop relying on Ubi and just git gud or don't play her, it ain't hard dude.
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>>168572240
Do you understand the point that if all characters were equally viable picks, the meta would be exponentially more complex? And that you would have to think harder about the potential enemy composition and their likely picks to plan your defenses accordingly?

Like do you understand how mathematics work?

>>168572334
Pro League pickrates reflect an end state of people wanting to win, not just playing for fun. Consequently, people think winning is fun, so the data is a great starting point for looking into stuff.

If we want to go into a dataless, conjecture based argument: The thing with the welcome mats is they tend to be MORE effective against less skilled players than more skilled players. This is a common sense argument we can all agree on. Therefore, as the opposition skill level increases, the less effective she becomes. Which, funny enough, the data reflects that.

It's just a matter of how stupid you think the player population is being, but according to the pros, her mats are not reliable enough to trap highly skilled players in, so characters with more RELIABLE and PREDICTABLE outcomes, like Valk, are chosen instead.

Aside from that she has a pretty good SMG but, other characters have good guns, have more reliable gadgets and more versatility and/or nitros.

Even just using a common sense argument she's a fairly weak pick.
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I am really terrible at Blitz. I have no idea how to play this fucker. Someone help me become the bully.
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>game crashes to desktop
>reboot game
>reconnect to lobby
>instead of putting me in it goes to "searching for opponent" with my old team
>never loads me in

what the fuck
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>>168572607
How the fuck is frost not viable, and fuck the meta, if people can't adapt and think for themselves they can go play Overwatch or some shit. Goddamn, if you can't play consistently with a wide range of styles then you're the problem, just git gud.
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>>168572852
"But hey now Kapkan does a dance if you pay money and you can even make Thermite shoot fire from his hands, also Tachanka's turret says lord now, give us money"
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>>168572607
>And that you would have to think harder about the potential enemy composition and their likely picks to plan your defenses accordingly?

I do this already. I pick Frost a lot if the enemy team rushes in and doesn't drone. I get a good amount of welcome mats doing this.
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>>168572870
I literally spelled it out how she isn't a viable pick RELATIVE to the other characters in the game. This is why pick rates are reflected in percentages instead of a Boolean.

Is she playable and fun? Yeah kind of, unless you are playing to win, then there are characters with more predictable and reliable outcomes (read: better chance of influencing the match) that you can default to

This is why Valk is good. Her outcome is beyond predictable and it's almost impossible for attackers to counter UNLESS they have an IQ, who is one of the least picked characters in the game. Just one way how having more predictably viable characters would make the meta more interesting :)
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how fucking long do footprints last?? i was in cockpit for 1 min 30 seconds and jackal still tracked me from the ones i left on the stairs
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>>168573094
So we should balance the game around bottom fraggers instead of top fraggers?
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>>168572845
Crouching can help protect your legs at range, but stand when the enemy is close to protect your head. Keep the center of your screen in mind before you aim, so you aren't exposing yourself too much when you want to return fire. Flashes are limited, but it's better to use them whenever you can.
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>>168573414
They last 90 seconds
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Frost should be removed from the game. Frost players should be removed from life.
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>>168572845
step one: stop playing blitz
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>>168564921
>technically not lethal pistol
its technically lethal but is non lethal in some cases for the sake of gameplay
please keep up
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>>168573307
Don't stress yourself too much anon... He's literally retarded and thinks that maximum efficiency and min-maxing are memes
He's gonna keep being stubborn about his shit opinion that "all ops are viable just get good scrubs XD" until the post limit is hit if you keep feeding him (you)s.
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>>168573668
Maximum efficiency and Min maxing are fine, I just get sick of people bitching about pick rates as if there isn't a meta-game to picking unexpected operators (not to mention style points).
That and people keep begging for buffs instead of thinking creatively and using characters in a unique way which will impact the meta organically.
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>>168573668
Frankly the one thing I love about trolls is seeing how flustered they get trying to keep up the retardation, to the point where they start freaking out or becoming actually retarded trying to defend their shit.

But he'll never understand because he's either a troll running out of shit to say, or he is actually this retarded and his worldview is entirely egocentric and the experiences of people in a higher skill tier of play can't possibly be different
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>>168573524
> half a ranked game

WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE OF THIS SHIT
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What are you fags even arguing about

/r6g/ is a good general but your "spit balling ideas" and "discussions" are cluster fucks
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>>168574113
>style points
>not win points
>when thousands and thousands of dollars is on the line
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>>168574113
>the pick rates are not directly linked to the meta

He's still going holy shit
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>>168574275
I'm sorry I forgot that slam dunks aren't a thing in the NBA and therefore everyone must be autistic constantly or the world win end. Who the fuck taught you how to have fun?
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>>168574375
I'm saying that cunts are obsessed with the pick rates of other people, as if metas can't shift organically by people who can do work with apparently "low tier" characters.
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>>168574528

Meta fags are the worse im glad not alot of them are here
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90 SECONDS HALF A RANK MATCH FUCKING WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>168574528
You understand those examples of a drastic meta shift of previous low tier characters are usually exceptionally rare to the point of not being even worthwhile accounting for, or the fact the environment shifted around them?

People just randomly discovering a character is good suddenly does not happen as often, and the community very quickly usually finds the "best" gun, character or whatever in a game. I don't think you can even cite a game where the meta was 100% settled, and then later on someone discovered a new way of playing that altered the meta drastically.

It hasn't happened in Siege and most updates are usually picked apart in /r6g/ even before the patch lands and predictions are usually on point. I can't remember who did it but there are posts outlining exactly what would happen to the game once Blackbeard was added and it happened to the letter.
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As a black male siema pl, I actually do hope one of the GROM operators, or whoever the fuck CTU it'll be, will be a black female
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>>168575514
it's not porn it's just hackers
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>>168575273
calm down autismo
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Can we all calm the fuck down about the meta and just get /comfy/?
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>>168575496
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>>168575956

DELET THIS
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How does jackals gadget work, I can kind of pretend most other gadgets make sense but his I can't get past.
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>>168575952
this is now the Frost / Kapkan / Tachanka / Blitz general

Get comfy and play /fun/ ops
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>>168576054

He uses a satellite to track shit
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>>168575952
How many drones do you twitch per prep phase?
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I'M GOING TO FUCKING FIREBOMB UBISOFT MONTREAL I SWEAR TO GOD
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>>168575952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxEl2p9GPnY

>>168576112
>using /comfy/ as an excuse to keep pushing your opinions
for shame
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>>168576187
Are you trying to say Blitz is good?
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Post /comfy/ music for in between Operations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLPyp2QI2_M
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>>168576054
It would have made more sense if he just could see them and follow the prints.
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>>168576392
Fuck even maybe real time tracking for, what, 5 seconds? That wouldn't be too bad. But 3 pings every 10 seconds is crazy because you are essentially locked out of getting close for all that time

All I can do during a Jackal tracking is set up an ambush and hope they come after me, which many times they don't.
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>>168576186
please do
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>>168576391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETU90pDtHJE
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>>168576484
It's 4 pings even

>1 as you get marked
>2nd in 10 seconds
>3rd in 10 seconds
>4th in final in 10 seconds
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>>168576484
People seem to forget it's really 4 pings; one at the start of the track, and then one every 10 seconds afterwards for 30 seconds.

And yeah really, unless the people on Jackal's team are eager beavers and REALLY want the kill it more than anything locks you out of fighting for a whole 30 seconds as a roamer, and if you get tracked as a point defender or beta-roamer you're pretty much fucked since you'll have much less room to reposition within.
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>>168576392
Yeah but what's he actually tracking though, how does the visor work?
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>>168576537
>>168576391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWI5aVKvkCg&index=25&list=FLDErtKMJQkKlT0fFJcJhKGA
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>>168576621
>4 pings

>>168576648
Most of the times I've been tracked by Jackal yeah it pretty much turns into "welp I guess I gotta stay out of the way for the next half a minute" and I shit you not on multiple occasions I had him retrack me to just lock me out again while they were hitting the objective.

I don't know what would be "better" but I find it amazing how his shit is almost universally hated by all Rainbow players, yet someone who gets paid to make this shit for a living thought it was okay (and then approved by people who make even more money than him)
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>>168576898
>I find it amazing how his shit is almost universally hated by all Rainbow players
I'm more bothered by people that defend it here, like what the fuck is going through their head?
And most of the time the only evidence or reason they have is "He's bad because I killed him after he pinged me xD get good scrub"
But thankfully the amount of that I see has decreased since his actual release.
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>>168576746
https://youtu.be/CPhXKak_bHw
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>>168577107
I just like how Mira was added after Hibana was already 10/10

If Mira was added back during the Black Ice days, holy shit that would have been game changing. Now it just upped my "Pick Hibana" decision from 8/10 times to 9.5/10 times
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montagne is now blackbeard during release levels of powerful he needs a nerf fucking stat.
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>>168576391
https://soundcloud.com/thesamles/solus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_9HNEyLa4U
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>>168577312
Hibana needed a nerf or nerfs of some sort before Mira was added, I definitely agree.
Now that I know Mira's potentially going to be in play and there's nothing I can do about it in most situations if I play as Thermite, I've actually lost the bravery to pick him now, and I used to play them both 50/50.
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>>168577125
>mouth moods

mah nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBmoQSHfO2U
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>>168573414
Can't get tracked by Jackal if you don't roam
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>>168577535
I liked picking Thermite for the shotgun. I shit you not, the 1014 was a top tier meme gun. People like the Supernova + Sanicbana but someone coming around the corner to nail a Thermite and getting pumped with semi auto buck is top tier satisfying

But yeah now that Mira *can* be picked? It's all ogre. Plus I've had her mirror / wall turn into vault holes with 1x Hibana pellet a few times which is actually even a BUFF to the attackers. Shits crazy.
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Is mira's primary shotgun and her pistol viable?
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>>168576701
It's a blacklight basically.
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How do I buy all the y1 operators. I don't feel like I can be competitive on ranked without most of them
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>>168576701
If you're looking for a way to explain how Jackal gets a pinpoint of your current location based on just your footprints, I'm figuring it's some type of "computer probability analysis" excuse. Like, "This person was here at this time, and running in that direction at that speed, so after computing all the data and the layout of the building, that person must now be [here]."
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>>168578391
D O N A T E
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>>168578492
Nigger where. Also thinking of getting year 2 pass
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>>168578391
There's a Y1 Op pack in the in-game store.
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>>168578551
Is it that $30 thing? Should I get that and the y2 pass or just the y2
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>>168577382
>shield user now a solid pick for the first time in over a year
>waaah nerf him
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>>168567974
T H I C C
H
I
C
C
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>>168578602
Y2 Pass won't get you the Y1 Ops.

Either you're paying money for 8 known Ops, or 2 known Ops and 6 unknown Ops (plus a small renown boost for the next year).

You could also pay for each Op individually, or just grind renown along the way and see them in action before splurging.
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>>168578757
Now you've got me thinking of just the y2 pass the. Grinding (mainly for hibana)
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>>168578757
Whats the money count, really, for individual ops vs the bundle?

You could buy the 3 or so actually competitive ops, then worry about grinding renown to get the next ones. Jackal and Mira are good, but they are nowhere near Hibana or Valk tier

If you grab Hib, Valk with real money, and then also Buck, Blackbeard and maybe Capitao by saving up renown (before Cap was top pick until he lost frags) you are really set for all the year one ops

You gotta remember part of the fun of this shit is saving up for ops. if you buy them all the only thing left to do is grind for cosmetics. Maybe get the Y2 season pass for the dank renown bonus / discounts, plus buy Hib and Valk?
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>>168578834
Get the year 1 op bundle ($20 in game store) and grind for the new ops instead
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>>168578939
>>168578971
Sounds like y2pass +hibana, Sounds good to me really. So far ayyyy
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>>168579059
Get Valk as well. She's been a top tier defender since she came out and even if Ubisoft takes another camera away AND her Nitrocell she'll still be a decent pick
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>>168578971
>>168578939
Only been playing for a week. Got to gold 1 and had like 3200 or somthing then played with friends and lost 3 in a row
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>>168577991
But what is he tracking on their feet that would show up on black light?
>>168578463
Still dumb.
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>>168579250
Ubisoft jizz
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>stop playing for two days
>instantly lose all ability to play afterwards
is it just me or does anyone feel like siege requires a constant upkeep to be good

I feel super rusty even after just one or two days of not playing
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>>168575496
>poland
>black
fuck off nigger
Wait for another nigger nation like Brazil
Argentina or some random African country should do the trick to shut your nig ass up.
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>>168579250
Are you asking how the pings work or how the footprints work? Because a thermal camera can see footprints for a pretty long time after someone has stepped there. The pings are just video game logic, stop being autistic.
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>>168575496
>Poland
>negros

sensible chuckle, friendo
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>>168578939
Each DLC Op is 600 R6 Credits, or 25K Renown.

(Prices USD)

$5 gets you 600 credits.

Y1 Op pack is 2400 ($20), individually these 8 Ops would be 4800 ($40), so you're saving 50%

The Y2 Season pass (8 Ops plus some extra things) is $30. They're individual 600 Credits ($5), so here the discount is only 37%. You buy that in Steam / Uplay / PSN or whatever, no buying Credits first.

If you really want to grind, a one day booster is 180 Credits ($1.50), which doubles earned renown, and the max renown per day is 50,000. So, buy a booster, earn 25k in one day, the booster doubles it and gets you another 25k, which is the price of one DLC Op. In other words, using a booster and intense grinding, you can earn a DLC op for only $1.50, instead of the outright price of 600 Credits ($5.00), or 3 DLC Ops for the price of one (even more if you buy the mutli-day boosters)
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>>168579541
>Because a thermal camera can see footprints for a pretty long time after someone has stepped there

Not really. For your heat to be visible you'd usually need to be standing in one place for a LONG time, and it would have to be BARE feet

Shoes and shit don't show up well on thermal because the bottom of your shoe is not anywhere near body temperature
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>>168575496
As an Ebola strain trappe din a white mans body I hope you start oozing blood from every orifice.
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>>168579604
To extend: Max speed grinding is achieved through lone wolf classic terrorhunt on house on the highest difficulty that you can comfortably clear. Over and over.
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>>168579604
I've gotten a dank job so I'm just gonna buy y2 pass and hibana and mby call/frost. Then got gud and get high plat without my shitter friends.

Is there a /r6s/ discord or something for ranked parties?
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>>168579923
join the TS, don't fall for the discord meme
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>>168579471
>>168579568
>Never seen a black Pole before
Take your meds, stupid cucks
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>>168579541
"BECAUSE IT'S A VIDEO GAME" Yes... I am the autistic one
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>>168579961
Will do. How often do ranked parties get formed?
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>>168580053
You are.
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how do I not be so fucking terrible its pissing me off
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>>168579994
outside of maybe warsaw i doubt many poles have ever seen a black pole or even a black tourist in real life.
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>>168580951
>total playtime under 10 hours
just play more my man
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>>168580951
How do you find these stats
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>>168580951
Stop playing PvE and suffer your way through the slog.
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>>168581118
I don't even know why PVE has so much time, I dont even play it
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Do you still get the 600 Ubi bucks with the y2 pass? Some homos in steam are complaining they didnt get it
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>lasers increase hipfire accuracy
oh that explains a lot
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>>168582129
fookin' lazeh sites
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Anyone think the ranked icons are a bit...shit?
I'd prefer something closer to CSGO's icons, where they are more detailed, in Siege they look far too minimalist and similar to one another, it just looks cheap is the best way I can describe it.
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>>168582631
theres a lot in siege that is shit
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>>168581994
Wasn't that ONLY if you had Season 1 pass?
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>>168581994
>>168583693

I got my ubi shekels when I bought Y2 pass
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>>168583693
Bonus 600 with Y2 pass if you also had Y1 pass
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>>168582631
>previous icons
>fucking impossible to differentiate between gold 1/2/3/4, but easy to tell between silver/gold/platinum/etc
>new icons
>literally the opposite
ubisoft literally can't even do the simplest fucking thing correctly

it's so fucking mind boggling how lucky they are to have stumbled their dumb asses on siege
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>>168582735
This game needs so much polish, I hate to draw the comparison for the eightieth time, but you'd never have something like this in Overwatch
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>haha I killed lvl10 thermite, haha, lets teabag, im soo cool
>poland-shitter lvl 160 with fucked ranked stats
Its so funny to see
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>>168583864
>Ubisoft not just making a dope "metal" icon and having a number next to it

WOW PROBLEM SOLVED
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>>168583864
Siege was developed by a team of twenty five people.

Twenty. Five. Fucking. People. I'm amazed it even runs.
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Despite having never met any of you, or knowing any of your names, I feel like you guys are my friends thank you so much.
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>>168584645
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>>168584645
kys keep yourself smiling
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>>168584645
Your first time playing on a ts?
It's not the best. But it's the next best thing.
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>carry most placement matches
>lose a few games because couldn't carry hard enough
>placed in Gold IV

>friend plays his placements with mostly scores like 0-5 but gets carried to victory
>placed in Gold 2

Nice ranking system
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>>168585565
>people should be ranked on their individual skill instead of teamplay
you should uninstall the game
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Does matchmaking sometimes get stuck? seems like sometimes it'll go for five minutes when the estimate isn't any different.
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>>168586164
>dying every round before getting any kills
>any value to team
I've played ranked games with him and he isn't that much of a team player.

>no callouts
>falls for stupid baits
>forgets his gadgets
>picks meme ops like Tachanka and gets nothing done
>keeps killing himself or hostage with frags
He just can't get carried any higher, right?
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>>168586389
yep ubisoft servers are made of rock
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>>168580951
Most people have similar stats when first playing this game, its a very, very difficult game to figure out.
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>>168580951
Those are better than my stats and I've been playing for way longer
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>>168584401
Retard here, is that a small amount of people to make a game? I have no idea what goes into making games so 25 sounds like a good number of people. How wrong am I?
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>>168587948
R* had over 1,000 full time employees working on GTAV.
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>>168587948
It's quite small for a game that has production value higher than average Nexon shooter.
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Of all the characters that got to keep their nitro cell, why was it Valk?
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>>168587948
Considering it's a triple A game, 25 is pretty low. Overwatch apparently had a dev team of 40 to 75 people during development and now it's around a 100. If both games have similar sub-teams (Audio, Art, Engineering, Production, and Design), Siege had 4 to 5 people per team whereas OW would've had around 13.

TL;DR: yes
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>>168584401
25?
Was it developed by 25 people or is that the amount of people left working on it after launch?
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>>168588505
because her cameras facilitate the use of c4 as a trap instead of a grenade?
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>>168588993
Developed by 25 people.

"Back in 2011, the newest iteration of Rainbow Six was to be Patriots, a game centered on a dramatic and involved single player campaign. It drew plenty of attention, much of it negative, before being dumped in the bin. A skeleton team of 25 was given the mandate of rebooting the series and coming back from the public cancellation of Patriots was one of the team’s biggest challenges."

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/14/rainbow-six-siege-interview-future/
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Is there some kind of exploit with people running into your extended shield as Montagne and somehow displacing your hitbox to be able to kill you? I've stopped counting how many people seem to kill me from in front of me while being right up in my face.
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So I'm just about to replay Siege after a while, played it for a bit before the first batch of extra operators came out. Has there been any T-hunt updates? Are they ever going to release more content for it besides the maps for multiplayer?
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>>168589234
If you wedge yourself up between the edge of Montagne's shield and a solid object you'll clip through and be able to hit his body.
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>>168589126
Imfuckingplying anybody actually presets their c4.
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>>168589234
Did it seem like they were facing away from you as they killed you?
It's possible to squeeze behind a montagne on your screen while on his screen you're still in front of him.
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>>168589368
No what happens is they seem to twirl in front of me, kill me, then on their kill cam it just shows them facing away from me and killing me.
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>>168588082
>GTAV
>Rainbow Six Siege
hm there SEEMS to be a difference here
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>>168589483
I think that is what I mean. they twirl because on their screen they squeezed past and they turn to shoot you.
Kill cams don't show you their screen, it shows what happened on your screen with the camera following a different character.
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why does getting hit by the frag grenade itself deal 25 damage
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>>168589609
That's really dumb but whatever.
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>>168589640
shit hurts yo
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Anyone wanna play together?
I dunno if I'll able to join the party cause my connection is stuck to moderate in the lan cafe
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>>168589752
>operators so pussy that getting hit by a frag kills them a quarter of the way
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>>168589226
I wonder how much of Patriot's corpse was reused in Siege, or if they used anything from it.
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>>168591145
Probably the white mask thing.
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>>168591145
Female hostage looks slightly like the wife
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>15 seconds remaining
>fill room with gas

is there anything comfier in rainbow six than sitting in a room full of gas watching the clock tick down?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/5ug4x1/exploiting_is_cheating/
>When you exploit a glitch to your advantage, IT'S CHEEEETING

What the fuck is wrong with these people
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>>168592275
Taking advantage of something the devs didn't intend to be possible is generally considered cheating, yes.
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>>168592275
>open up Mira hole from other side
>win the game
>"stop playing Mira she's broken wait till ubi fixes it"
>"stop cheating"
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Who's the most aesthetic operator and why is it

Kapkan
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>>168592390
>Taking advantage of something the devs didn't intend to be possible
lol
Play testing?

>pay for content
>content does not work properly
>that is somehow the fault of the buyer and community rather than the distributor

Kill yourself
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>>168592483
Rook or Mira.
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>>168557848
>tfw I bought the starter edition yesterday on a whim for $35 from my FLGS after buying some more 6 sided dice for the campaign of shadowrun I am playing

did I fuck up?
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>>168587072

He got lucky for his placement matches. But the thing is, if he really is a consistent detriment to any team he goes on then he's bound to eventually have his luck run out and slide back down the ranks.

Ubisofts logic us a results-based one. They cant really accurately measure player performance in an accurate enough manner (e.g. a team where one guy gets all the kills, but only because he was supported by good droning and callouts) so they go with the logic of: if you're a good player you'll win more than you lose but a bad player will lose more than win overall.
It kind of is true, like how if you flip a coin often enough you'll get a 50/50 split between heads and tails, even if my some chance the first 10 flips are all heads.
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which is the most meme worthy operator?
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>>168592483
jager
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>tfw last one alive and the enemy are surrounding you and youre stuck in your fortified room
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>>168584645
gay
i like you too friendo
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Why do I have a French charm

I dont want it
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>>168594692
Then don't use it?
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>>168594730
But why did I get it, it's just in my inventory
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>>168594854
ubi magic
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>>168594854
Because the French literally can't stop dying in terrorist attacks everyone got the charm.
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>>168595234
Oh makes sense

Where's my Canadian charm then
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>>168595272
Wait for Canada day and see if they give out the challenge again.
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>JTF-2 challenge
>win 5 rounds with assists only
really ubisoft
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>>168594519
funny but also sad
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>>168595376
>canada day
dont tell me thats a real thing
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>>168595586
>don't tell me a country has a holiday where they celebrate their country

le leaf meme
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Are the Jap DLCs bad? I never see anyone playing them
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>>168595984
>I never see anyone playing them

what
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Gold 2 Australian player here.

Am I ok /r6g/?
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>>168595984
so you never see people playing hibana?
i swear to jayzus you better be memeing
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>>168596039
What about my phrasing confuses you, anon
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>When your friend playing Montagne is the last man standing, pulls out his piece and fucking aces
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>>168596112
No, you are Australian.
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>>168596136
Because Hibana is picked every fucking single match ever
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>>168596172
:(
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>>168596127
I just start playing again this last week and I have not seen a single Jap DLC character, either side

New DLCs in almost every match, Brazil ones often, occasional Valk and Blackbeard, and rarely Frost (remember when she was top meme)
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>>168596168
>when you play the easiest op in the game

literally worse than original Blackbeard
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>>168589640
>>168589935
Frags have a lot of heft to them you'd be suprised, having one lobbed at the side of your head would hurt man.
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>still no israeli special forces
>not realising how top notch they are
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>>168596575
>t.
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>>168596575
kike
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>>168596621
>>168596651
>not realizing the IDF are badass
they should include the palestinian special forces (if they have special forces) aswell in the same update just for a cheap meme if they ever included the israeli ones
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>>168596731
and yes i know the IDF is just the army but i cant remember what theyre special forces are called
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>>168596731
>IDF are badass
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>>168596731
both arabs and kikes should be genocided desu
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>>168596731
>Palestinian special forces
>>168596830
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe
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>navy SEALs
>not delta force
get your shit together ubi
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>>168596575
>adding terrorists as a CTU
kek

>>168596731
Syria would also be a big kek

Memes aside, if they're going to add any shitskins, it's probably going to be Egypt
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>>168596883
IDF have never fought anyone that wasn't hilariously incompetent at war. Killing Arabs and Africans doesn't prove shit.
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>>168596883
its like watching baby turtles crawl from where they hatch to the sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEIzTDu-jx4
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>>168596731
>>168596883

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BYqpsjcC7c
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>>168596883
>>168596997
They truly are "special" atleast
>>168597023
wait a minute, that video is taken from the Hamas song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyRhn0qqQsY
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>>168596883
Oh I'm showing this on /k/
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>>168596975
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

Even if the surrounding nations are exceptionally shit, it doesn't make the IDFs achievements any less impressive. Its a very competent conscript army with a pretty good special forces component. Sayeret operators wouldn't be a bad choice for the game.
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>>168576392

People were predicting he would be trash with just that and he would be if he just had the foot steps
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Coming up on 25k

Gonna buy Hibana if she's really so meme-y
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>>168596912
>if they're going to add any shitskins
>if
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>>168597509
It actually does. Arabs cannot fight a modern war without asymmetric tactics. They literally can't do it.
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>>168598539
Well they could have perfectly added shitskins during Dust Line but they decided to add more americans instead for some reason, so who knows if they're planning on adding shitskin at all.
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>>168598678
I too have read "Why Arabs Lose Wars", but even incompetence can be overcome with enough numbers and surrounding your opponent.
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>>168598749
>two niggers
>no shitskins
You literally can't come much closer to the color of shit, than that of the negroid subhuman.
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>>168598251
>3 speed
>best rifle
>best sidearm
>best gadget

She's been the best op in the game for a while now, and only got better with Mira being such a hot pick.
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>>168598982
I can go in the special needs class and knock around as many of them as I want but it doesn't make me a badass, It just makes me a dick.
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>>168599186
>comparing arabs to retards
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>>168599713
It's not entirely inaccurate.
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>>168598251
Just don't be one of those Hibanas that never use their charges. I've played with more who never use as opposed to ones who use it even once.
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>>168599713

You give us to much credit
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>>168600042
What even is her ability? Best uses?
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>>168599186
There is a distinct difference between going into a special needs classroom to give some retards a kciking and being a small nation surrounded by bigger nations who all want to see you destroyed.

Israel's position is rarely one that is militarily advantageous, hence why its victories are impressive.
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>>168600125
Thermite but more versatile and safer.
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>>168600125
Opens reinforced walls from a distance. Takes all three charges to open one Thermite sized hole. Shoot one above or below Mira mirrors to make a vault hole.
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>>168600261
>>168600283
Wow sounds awesome, I pick Thermite a lot but don't always get to use his charges because of the danger it presents on some maps
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>>168600203
Bombing UNRWA shelters and schools really is impressive.
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>10 match win streak in solo casual
>Survived being on RU side
>Survived a 3v5 match
>Survived being paired with a 4 man clan which were French
>Survived 2 matches with Tatchanka + Castle on my team

I want to play more but know disappointment is just around the bend
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>>168600519
Look, I really don't care about the politics behind this, I'm simply stating that the IDF has had some very impressive military achievements against numerically superior enemies and that their special forces are fairly skilled at counter terror operations, making them a good addition to a game filled with counter terror units.
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>>168600739
Terrorists will never be playable in a Tom Clancy game. End of argument.
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>>168600739
>>168600927

Clancy was a huge Israel fag though

but fuck the IDF
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>>168600927
What does that have to do with his post?
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>>168600927
i beg ur bardon

http://rainbowsix.wikia.com/wiki/Ayana_Yacoby
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>>168600927
Plenty of US operators already, though.
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>>168601114
IDF commit state sponsored terrorism.
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>Splinter Cell: Dead
>Ghost Recon: Ruined
>Rainbow 6: Completely changed but managed to turn out good by some miracle

Can't we get a real tactical game again

Thanks
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>>168601198
not by ubi obviously
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>>168601198

What about HAWX and Endwar?

I was sad about Ghost Recon too the customization is godlike and For Honor is good so I thought ubi changed


I was so wrong
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>>168601136
This made me laugh

>>168600927
Let this meme die
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>>168601198
>fast paced and modern cant be tactical!
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>>168601180
>>168600927
It seems a bit silly to rule out Israeli counter terror units when there are already multiple groups represented in the game who've done far worse than anything Israel has done.

The game has the spetsnaz in it already for gods sake.
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>>168601302
Can someone pick up the ball they dropped then?

>>168601356
The customization is really the only good thing, the AI is laughably bad and just ruins the whole thing

>>168601416
>lemme greentext some shit you never said!
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>>168601469

He means that sometimes people say Siege isnt tactical since its to fast
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>>168601469
what is a "real" tactical game then?
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>>168601451
Didn't you know that the IDF are the only terrorists in the world and the only special forces to commit muh terrorisms???????? What a fucking idiot
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>>168601552
Okay? Those people aren't me

>>168601568
Probably those games I mentioned, dumbass
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>>168600715
Can't be too disappointing if it's just casual, not that big of a deal
Now losing my 7 game win streak in ranked? That had me upset
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>>168601469
Have you played door kickers? It's a little jankie but pretty fun
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>>168601469
>can someone pick up the ball dropped by them?

Probably some slavs, idk. Escape from Tarkov looks pretty neat, and Stalker is still great. Not sure if there are any tacticool games coming out that are also multiplayer focused and not permadeath-lose-all-your-gear games though.
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Stop letting one kike ruin the thread.
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>>168601681
I don't want multiplayer focused, that's what Siege is for. I want single player and/or co-op tactical with good mission content

Hell they should make one where you can create your own missions.
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which operator is an anti-semite
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>>168601770
door kickers might be a close as you get this decade with the way things are going
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>>168601871
>2D indie game

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>168601849
Fuze most likely
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>>168601849
Jackal of course

>>168601942
Then there is only Arma with workshop missions
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>>168601849
>>168601942

Here try this piece of EA garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6BdIUPVwY
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>>168602009

>Kickstarter
>Trailer on par with the Siege E3 2015 reveal

No thanks
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>>168601942
if you are looking for a polished AAA tactiool game we'll probably never get another, devs figured out what sells, and that's safe as fuck normie games and an indie studio will probably never be able to polish a full 3d tactical game to the level that makes it better than the OG ones without taking years, you're going to have to compromise somewhere, door kickers or ARMA are the only big 2 I can think of
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>>168602221
Doesn't need to be super polished or AAA, I can accept less than realistic graphics. It's more about being a solid 3D game with real mission content and well thought out mechanics (ie not magic AI)

Yeah I know it's a pipe dream but I just think about it being a game I want all the time. Too bad MGSV was garbage because the gameplay fills the void at least.
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>>168602221
>Siege
>Polished
>Tacticool
Wut
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>>168602438
Siege has good presentation and it's more tacticool than your average shootan game

If it had story content and better T-Hunt it could've been one for the history books
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>>168601849
Mira is stated to hate Ash. Jackal and Fuze are probably anti-semitic as well being Muslims and all.
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>>168602581
Fair, but I'm sick of every new cosmetic being some dumb shit, it'd be fine if they balanced it and added something like a full scarf for valk that's be great
The story was shaping up to be good, they started balls deep with a school attack
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>>168602856
Well sure, once they went full multiplayer it eventually led to the standard shit we see today like cosmetics which always takes away from the core style eventually

And yeah I like the tiny sliver of story we got. Too bad it ends up feeling like "this is what the game could have been but we fucked up so have fun enjoying what will never be"
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>>168602856
>>168602976

The devs know apparently of the outcry with cosemetics
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>>168603228
I'm sure they knew from day 1, who cares if it makes money? Shit it is overpriced as fuck too. I'll waste money on stupid microtransactions sometimes but not when it cost like $7 for a hat.
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>>168601356
Wildlands is that bad? I heard it's fun as long as you have friends.
What a shame. The customization feature looks really neat, maybe that's because it has actual camos and headgears that aren't circus shit.
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>>168603432
it is fun. its just nostalgia fags saying "its not a real ghost recon game(tm)"
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>>168603629

Future Soldier was better than wildlands to be honest
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>>168603432
Garbage simplistic AI, boring Far Cry style map, mediocre vehicle handling, almost no control over squad AI, no squad AIs to fill multiplayer slots, and absolutely TERRIBLE sound mixing (gunshots sound like shit but I can hear a radio from 30 feet away loud as fuck)

>>168603629
Fuck off, a shit game is a shit game
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>pick doc
>die first
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>>168602581
If it had hit registration it would be one for the history books right now.

Clearly the better option is to continue to add elements into the game rather than fix the ones that have been broken since launch.
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why IQ is sad
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>>168603810
>pick Doc
>last man standing
>get 3 kills to win the round

It's a shame that the P90 kind of sucks cuz I try to pick it in every game
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>>168603817

Didnt they say they would start fixxing more issues in the fucking stream?
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>>168604000
They did, but a lot of it is embarrassing bandaid fixes, like how they added that vent with the lighting issue over a hatch so it cast a shadow in, rather than, y'know, fix the actual fucking lighting to begin with.
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>>168603721
its not tho
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>>168604207
t. Wildlands dev
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>>168604168

I dont know what to say then if ubisoft fails to see the game as it is were slowly dieing then
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>>168604168

They did they wanted to fully improve the health of the game
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>>168589226
>Back in 2011
Stop with your meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9OXjaNdRaI
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>>168601198
No!

All we need is better writers for the next SC, plus michael ironside and the rest of the original voice cast to return
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>>168605032

I like how its one guy who always does it

Face the facts the skeleton crew meme was real
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>>168603889
>no purple kobe 9s

DROPPED
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>>168605232
She's not wearing any shoes, she's in her home
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Im honestly amazed a skeleton crew did this shit

Does this explain the spaghetti code and other various issues since they had to rush to make the game?
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>>168603432
With Ubisoft games like Wildlands, Division etc you have to ask yourself, what's the gameplay hook? because from what I've seen the gameplay does not look particularly strong and has to be supplemented by things like "better with friends, deep customization, progression e.g. grinding, massive beautiful open world!" where as with Rainbow Six Siege or even For Honor the gameplay hook is blatantly obvious, you can fight other players in medieval combat while wrestling control of the battlefield or a shooter centered around breaching a building or defending it, destruction and gadgets are integral to winning.
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>>168605490

and I think Ghost Recons season pass isnt even free while For Honors is
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>>168602009
>Old style tactical shooter game is back!
Shut off the video right there
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>>168605479
Probably.

If this game had been well built, making simple changes such as map and operator fixes wouldn't be a once-per-season thing.
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>>168605154
Only in 2011 when they first started it. E3 reveal was in 2014. A lot can happen between those years with regards to getting more people to develop the game.
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Everyone talking about shitty fucking skins when Red Crow and Velvet Shell ops don't have ANY other season headgear except for the one they're in?

Shit pisses me off so much. Mira has just ONE fucking headgear. WHY.
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>>168606014
who cares?
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>>168606243
I fucking care. Black Ice headgears are the absolute fucking best and I buy them on every op possible.
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>>168606243
looking good is all that matters, you don't need to know how to play, you just need to look bitchin
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>>168606424
This guy gets it, I just hope he's never on my team.
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>>168606297
why? you can't see them in game, hell teammates probably wont notice it, enemies probably won't either, I guess they will in a kill cam but then again...so what?
It's fine you like playing dress up but I am at a loss as to why you would get upset over it.
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>>168606658
I wanna look good. I can see it in the mvp screen, besides, it bothers me when I play ops with colors I don't like.

That being said TWITCH NEEDS A FUCKING WHITE UNIFORM TO GO WITH HER BLACK ICE BALACLAVA IT LOOKS STUPID AS HELL RIGHT NOW REE
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So what exactly do you do in the TS? do you guys just talk or do you acctually play seriously?
i just wanna talk while playing with people
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>>168606994
Yeah, in general, I don't see why everyone couldn't have some simple recolor uniforms. Especially the spetznaz, who are really hard to match headgears for.
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>>168607085
Do you want to play the game and talk with people that also or are just looking for a podcast?
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>>168606526
don't worry, I'm too poor to look bitchin so I had to learn how to play :(
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>>168606994
Get help.
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>>168606994
people who don't understand cosmetics confuse me, do you not dress in clothes that look good because you know they look good not because you can see them?
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>>168607157
I obviously want to play the game but also talk.
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>>168607197
Welcome to my team, friend!
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>>168607206
Not an argument, Cucker
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>>168607364
Join the Ts then, don't be retarded, don't constantly talk in memes and don't have the situational awareness of dead toddler ingame.

Also don't expect anyone to be nice to you
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>>168607416
>I get upset that there aren't enough options for my characters outfit on the menu and MVP screen!
Worry less about that and more about breaking out of the bronze zone.
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>>168563429
>its a 4 man clan getting absolutely btfo
You can .FAP to this you faggots.
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>>168607632
I play in proleague, you pubshit
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>>168576186
>in b4 arrested for uttering threats
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>>168601716
Thats pretty racsist doc.

I think it might be dok in disguise
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>>168607312
It can be kinda hard to become versed in that concept if you get 0 face-to-face social contact.
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>>168607908
You are in fake news kiddo.
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>just got game
>people votekick me or TK me at beginning of round because I am new 75% of the time
>join game
>they initiate a votekick immidiately at start of round
>drop C4 and nail 3 people

fuckin' cunts.
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>>168607085
If you want to play with people and just chill, let others know it. Don't let yourself get into a ranked game with people that want to give it 100%.
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>>168609668

>drop C4 and nail 3 people

And that's why they votekick you immediatly.
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>>168609668
Do you choose recruit? I hope youve done the situations and achieved 3 stars on all.
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>>168609268
You should be calling out >>168607632 for fake news since he's making assumptions
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>>168609857
I wasn't getting myself into a ranked game. I've literally running normal terrorist hunt until I get a better feel for the game.
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>>168609668
How can you be new only for 75% of the time?
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>>168611932
I like you.
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>>168607085
i just built my first PC and i just don't know how to join the TS and not be awkward

i'm still getting used to M+KB so i'm just playing casual
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>>168612347
just be yourself :)
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>>168612309
This doesn't answer my question at all anon. Infact, I am actually more confused than before regarding your sudden confession of affection. Are you messing with me?
>>
I would just like to remind you guys how much I love this general

The For Honor general has already devolved into waifu posting and stupid shit in the 1st week
>>
So guys help me out, I'm trying to get back into this game after a long break.
Last time I played it was a few weeks after they released the first batch of new soldiers (the canadian ones).

What's new now? how did the balance between soldiers change? what's the go-to soldier combo now? what soldiers should I grind for?
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>>168612846
>A Melee game
>The general turns out to be just waifu posting
Holy fucking shit; what, how? This has never happened before. You are really spreading my believes into unknown territory here anon.
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>when you know it's going to be one of those fucking matches
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>>168613090

I am talking to the point they put shipping fics into the OP
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>>168613136
>not accepting yout fate and going full meme
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I wasn't going to spend more than 3 minutes on this but I thought the concept was good
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>>168613032
>soldiers
>>
Please give me advice on how to effectively play this game
It feels like no matter how much cover I have in all directions I still randomly die

Also why does everyone else have very stable guns but mine have crazy kickback
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>>168613208
I wonder what drives certain people to certain games, perhaps this happend to r6g too at release. Maybe when the degenerates leave and go back to their Korean MMO threads will the /fhg/ get better.
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>>168613032
They're operators, not soldiers
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>>168613420
>It feels like no matter how much cover I have in all directions I still randomly die
You'll stop feeling that way when you play more. There's not much you can do but pick up experience and map knowledge until you know how to find cover.

>Also why does everyone else have very stable guns but mine have crazy kickback
Attachments, maybe? Or you aren't compensating for recoil manually.
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>>168613263
This
TACHANKAAAA
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>>168613519
>>168613389

I forgot the word, English is not my first language

So any tips to ease myself back into this game?
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>>168613420
Buy attachments and shoot in bursts.
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Why can't I filter pings in competitive matchmaking? Why do I have to keep playing against this shit?
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>>168613442

I thought the game was gonna die or something its getting like 200 posters a thread and its just a cluster fuck
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>>168613674
Read the guide in the OP
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tell me how to be pro recruit
i want to main recruit and still be useful for team
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>mira plants her window on a wall with no reinforcement
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>>168613979
Only play recruit on attack if you must. On defend you only have 1 reinforce wall.
Pick shield and go nuts.
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>>168613987
Can be viable. Crouching behind a low mirror can let you stand and wallbang people on the other side reliably - but it's risky. Countered by ash pretty effectively.
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>>168613987
>not placing it on a wall thats not reinfocred so you can see the enemy then shoot them through the wall without opening the window and completely giving yourself away
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>>168613882
It just released, the "main" gamemode dominion is absolute cheese. Give it time to die.
>>
so uh, this is a bit of a shot in the dark, but I'm desperate, my friends siege crashes every time he gets to the results screen, any ideas on why?
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>>168613882
Had some fun during the betas but they were long enough for me to get bored of it before the release.
Definitely not worth the heap of money they're asking. Worth 20 bucks at most.
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>>168614790

I personally like it since I loved Bushido Blade I just got it off of G2A plus it has free DLC like siege so ehhh

if only wildlands was better
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>>168612747
I thought you were messing with them because of their wording. If you were serious, I guess I don't like you as much as I thought.
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>>168599161
>best rifle
>insane ass recoil

>best sidearm
>mac11 is still better

>best gadget
>arguably
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>>168613987
>Spetsnaz bows down to Capitao
>in contact with GROM
>posesses Ash-like abilities
>controls Favela with an iron but fair fist
>plays Castle on Bank globally
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>>168615957
Talk to me when you have 100 hours with the 556xi and then start using the type 89
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>>168616387

What if the GROM are just non lethal version of the spetnaz
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>>168615957
>insane ass recoil
Her rifle has no recoil, people are actually calling it the R4C with less bullets.

>mac11 is still better
Oh yeah, it's slightly worse than one of the best weapons in the game, good point.

>arguably
Her gadget is definitely the best, there's not much counterplay to it since it can't be bandit tricked unless both mute and bandit try to do it.
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>>168616535
I have literally never played Thermite and I got over 300 hours. kek

>>168616724
If you think her gun that shoots like a mexican jumping bean has no recoil then you clearly have never played her. It's fucking awful.
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>>168617032
Her gun has no horizontal recoil and very little vertical recoil. It's one of the easiest guns to control in the game. Compare that to thermite's which just does drift all over the place, it's nothing. Try playing characters that actually have high recoil guns like Capitao or Buck.
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>>168617307
Nigga I had a better time playing Capitão and Buck than Habina
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>>168617032
sounds like you need to get gud
>>
holy shit Jackal's guns are good

they're gonna nerf the shit out of this character
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>>168603889
Ah my favorite recent Japanese twitter meme
"How to enjoy Rainbow 6 Siege"

1. Boot up R6S.
2. Fuck! You got spawnkilled! It's always like this with you.
3. This game is like your life. You're always just getting killed."
4. You tried playing with various strategies, but it never goes well.
5. Nobody loves you.
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>>168618405
>holy shit Jackal's guns are good
of course they are, new op new OP
same as hibana before that and whoever before that. BB? I forget, it happens so regularly.
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>>168603889
does this mean that the IQ in that photo is a qt asian
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>haven't played a single game against people with less than 100 ping

What the fuck is going on today?
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>>168619661
>a qt asian

doesn't exist
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>post yfw they add the Polish Gendarmerie instead of GROM
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>>168619868
>t. committed homosexual
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>>168619825
I don't know, but I'm close to giving up. I wish I had something better to do.
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>>168619825
>today
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>>168619868
yellow is stronger than white my friend
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>>168619825
I dunno but the game is fucking up for me. Today my ping has always been 100 and I get awful lags despite my connection being mostly as usual.
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>>168619946

t. attracted to plastic
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>>168620115
>t. I think all Asians are like South Koreans
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Wanna buy one of the 25k operators.

Got Frost already, thinking about Capitao, Buck, or Hibana, maybe Mira.
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>>168620713
You can't go wrong with Cap, Buck, or Hibana. Capitao is probably my favorite, but Buck and Hibana have a lot more general utility.
>>
>unload entire shotgun mag into someone's chest
>get one tapped by a pistol
Are body shots seriously this underpowered?
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>>168620895
>shotgun
let me guess, you didn't even shoot at melee range, right?
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how do i git gud with shotguns anyway

seems every time i'm on a close map and pick one i end up in some mid range gunfight and get rekt
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>>168571356
Which gun were you using?

>>168620895
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>>168562692
I'm actually really excited to see what they come up with. Maybe I'm being to optimistic but I honestly don't care
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>>168621101
flank
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>>168613987
You can plant in some weird spots really low so you can have fun shooting people legs and they get confused
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>>168619943
>yfw they add WOT instead
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>>168562692
>Operator that gets a noise-machine
>Dud-gadgets, like a Fuze thing, except instead of explosives, it just makes the loud ass noise and triggers Jager's shit
>Fortress, Castle's dad, with SIX reinforcements, and the ability to turn windows into something you need a thermite/hibana for
>Flamethrower operator
>Tank-drone/EOD bot operator
>Chemical warfare operator
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>>168621101
don't engage in mid range gunfights
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Who the hell is this nico nico guy?
He has multiple accounts and bullies lower level players
BAN HIM
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Flak Jacket operator when?
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>>168622708
EOD operator when?
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>bought the ps4 version on sale
>no aim assist
>most people can't aim for shit
It's a waste of money and it should've been a PC exclusive.
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>>168622708
Is he about to parry a potato masher?
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>>168620816
Thanks, probably gonna be Hibana or Buck then, because I love fucking with walls.
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>>168622708
it will land between his legs.
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>>168622973
>should've been a PC exclusive
I'm not adamantly against consoles, but I agree. The game already feels primarily balanced around PC playstyles, the multi-platform element just feels like it slows down patch and hotfix releases by eating up extra dev time for new content, splitting focus for bugfixing, and introducing patch fees that de-incentivize Ubi from releasing bugfixes as often as possible.
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>>168622893
>1 speed 3 armor attacker
>immune to nitro cell, frag grenades, and kapkan traps
>smg primary, cannot ADS or sprint
>-3 seconds on defuser if he plants it

thoughts?
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>>168623606

So like the dude from Medal of Honor?
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>bought jackal cos i was hype for him
>he's impossible to use and i keep getting killed by roamers before i even spot any footprints
how 2 get good at jackal
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>>168623870
literally point and shoot, his guns are amazing
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>>168568395
I can vouch for this. Had my reflex sight lose its triangle when I got hit by EMP grenade
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>>168624203
red dots are also affected
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Is it worth it to put the angled grip on whatever you can?
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the angled grip did nothing but cod-ify siege even more

back then everyone used to slice the pie at every corner and have his sights aimed all the time

now it's just people who run out of corners like idiots thinking their grip's speed will save them but then get gunned down
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>oregon
>point is dining room
>hear pulse taking out and putting away his scanner behind a shield a bit behind the door
>theres no one behind the shield
>hes actually behind the wall in the fucking hallway
>sound is playing through the right headphone directly behind the shield for no reason
I feel like this has only gotten worse since red crow, before it was just sometimes sounds like fuze putting a charge on a window or a 3speed making no noise; now it's noise playing from random angles.
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what a dummy, dies to a floor trap
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>>168625280

Your the 1st person I have seen here who has complained about the angled grip
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>>168625434
You're the one mocking him while hiding your name.
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>>168625534
i'm not complaining, in fact, i'm fucking loving it, before it was added, i used to fight slow and careful people, but i now i laugh my ass off and get a free kill when some codfag tries to memepeek me with his epic grip
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>>168625280
So much angled grip use, bro
>>168570370
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>>168625695
What level of play are you at where people with angled are frequently sprinting around corners and losing ADS battles?
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>>168625854
Do i care about pro league shit?

fighting against people with angled grips is like getting free kills, those people think they can HAYAI and shoot you in the head, but they end up missing 99% of the shots because their guns' recoil is fuckhuge, idiots.

plus, this was supposed to be a slow paced shooter, not GOTTA GO FAST run and gun type of shit
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>>168626195
Plat 1
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>>168625434
Welcome mats are great

Play casual, noobs dont look for them, get trapped

Play ranked, unusual pick, place them places where people rush into rooms, wait for people to make their last 15 second pushes and get downed

Frost is my waifu
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now i know why its still in beta
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>>168626720
Do you think someone would really go and tell lies on the internet?
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>>168627079
play the game more
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Since we don't currently have any legitimate pick rates >>168570370
We can at least see who's picked the most in /r6g/
Attackers:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12359847
Defenders:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12359864
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>>168627143
I think you might need to stop making things up, or stop generalizing the entire playerbase from a single match; angled grip is rarely used and only on a few select operators.
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>>168627280
I think you should re do the poll so people can pick their top three, maining one character is a bit shite in this game, we all have our favs but I think most people play 2 - 4 different ops just to have opitions
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>>168627280
Okay stop the meme picks
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>>168627425
not in my experience, and it's far far more than a single match
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>>168627672
>Voted frost
>Really meant it
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>>168627592
I would but I can't control how many they pick and you know someone's gonna fuck it up for everyone
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>>168627702
Is your experience like three or four? Did it happen once a game? How do you know they're running angled grip? Are you dying to them and making up fabrications on a moldavian investment bbs?
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>>168627672
i actually main smoke though
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>>168627672
Hey, fuck you, kapkan has a god tier gun and gadget, plus he's three armor
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>>168570370
>cav
>spas-12
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>>168627672
seems pretty much like my tier ranked picks, need more rook though. muh bear traps
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>>168628004
Heavy armor is not a plus in this game.
And his gadget is extremely inconsistent, it's entirely dependent on the other team making mistakes to generate value.
SMG is one of the better ones without and ACOG though.
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Alright /r6g/ how do we fix spawnpeek university?
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>>168628521
More viable entrances that isn't hatch or trophy room window
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>>168628391
But his SMG is shit
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>>168628521
Maybe if there weren't a grand total of about 6 entrances in the entire map, most of them absolute dogshit, and if they layout wasn't so boxlike.
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>>168628391
>Heavy armor is not a plus in this game.
it is if you make good use of cover, lrn2play scrub

>And his gadget is extremely inconsistent, it's entirely dependent on the other team making mistakes to generate value.
This is only 50% true, there are some places where you're guaranteed to get a kill (kid's room, bedroom big door,living room big door)
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>>168628861
>recommending heavy armor
>telling others to learn to play
You new here son?
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>>168628391
GIT
GUD
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>>168628861
>duck into cover
>lower your head directly into my bullets
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>>168627672
Here is a spreadsheet of all the data, will update as it goes along to keep up with the information
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_0DMP-mJLN6fXfzlU6rMKVq5kaIct9MK97MyEzMjQRo/edit#gid=0
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>>168628861
>Kapkan
>Good
>In any way
He's slow as hell, has a large hitbox, has a bad gun and secondary, his gadget requires your opponents to be either retarded or trying to #yolo it up and rush unless you wait to place them until the last 30 seconds.
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Alright guys how do we fix
>latency peeking
>hitboxes
>Matchmaking preferences
>Favella
>Bartlet
>Plane
>Shields
>Reddit
>Ranked
>Camera bugs
>Gadget bugs
>Baricade bugs
>Reinforced wall bugs
>Clientside debris
>Uplay
>My attitude
>Weapon balance
>Rate of fire supremacy
>The mute function
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>>168629330
Plane is fine imo
maybe another drop in for the attackers from the top of the plane
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>>168629330
fire ubisoft, switch to a competent dev/publisher
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>>168629478
Being inside is fine, too bad that's usually the issue.

I forgot to add
>Lighting
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>>168628861
Are you the same sperg who was talking about angled foregrip users giving him free kills?
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>>168629610
What if they added entrances at the landing gear and a rappel point at the noise like in SWAT?
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>>168629610
>lighting holy shit this
>check out a hole leading outside
>Buck is literally invisible in the blackness that is R6 Siege shadows
This game is absolute bullshit sometimes.
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>>168629821
What if the <insert anti terrorist unit of country> gets a notification everytime a player in said country peeks on plane. They will then continue to arrest and excecute said person.
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>>168629330
>devs not being a shit
>get rid of some hitboxes that are bigger than they should be, maybe update models
>devs not being a shit and doing it
>delet map and start a new
>fix map by making the house bigger or smaller
>plane is okay, maybe nerf the roof or buff it, nerf glaz's ability to shoot through windows maybe
>buff them, only shitters can't do anything about it
>just pretend they don't exist, we can't destroy reddit
>ranked is a beta, so there will probably be changes I imagine
>camera bugs are okay, it's not a big deal imo as the rest of the issues
>depends on the gadget you mean
>what barricade bugs?
>I still don't know what you're specifically referring to.
>devs not being a shit
>devs not being a shit
>Seek help from either a therapist, support group, a friend, or from some self fulfillment to help you let go of your anger like meditation or physical activity
>Possibly make it so that everyone has access to any gun but make sure none of them are op (which probably won't work) or assess them case by case and see which operator needs a good gun and which one doesn't
>Again, case by case assessment
>devs not being a shit
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I get spawnpeeked more one Kanal than I do on plane
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>>168630164
Git gud, Kanal is best map.
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>>168630047
>Hibana's gadget making pros restart entire matches because they bug.
>Baricades getting bugged so the hitbox is still present and you can't enter.
>Reinforced walls getting breached by a thermite or hibana but leaving the wall intact

These are what I'm refering to.
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>>168630473
Haven't experience any of those, level 50 on pc
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grinded out 65K renown on a 24hr booster feels fucking good man
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>>168630473
I swear, every other time I use Hibana's gadget it bugs.

At least it also consistently detonates the first pellets after I blow up my second ones.
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Is twitch holding a 1911 in her operator picture?
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>>168631052

Shit, not twitch, I mean IQ
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>>168631052
I don't think twitch is holding anything, but IQ sure is.
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>>168613671

>tfw you're down 0-2 and decide do go Tchanka because why the fuck not and accidentally clutch and gun down the entire attacking team

This has happened more than once to me.
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How do you guys feel about the GEO shotgun? The long one I mean

Shits fun as fuck with Jackal though I feel bad for not using the AR alot
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23:45:44: Starting BattlEye Service...

23:45:47: Launching game...
23:45:49: Note: File blocks can be ignored if they don't cause problems with the game.
23:45:49: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web.Abstract#\2a1d6081747291e24c194b0473d259d2\System.Web.Abstractions.ni.dll".
23:45:50: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Net\90426571e706234f37dd91b0027d2dc4\System.Net.ni.dll".

The game started fine, but this is the first time this ever showed up. Anyone knows what caused it?
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>>168631327
W-Wait you mean that getting kills isn't everything in this game? wooooowwww
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>>168631401

I had something similar, but it went away after i restarted my pc
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>>168631327
nigger
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the fuck is wrong with the servers. everyone teleports, rubber bands, and now everything is fucking crashed.
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>>168631396
criminally underrated. I've been using it quite frequently, especially on maps like plane and house
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>>168631327
The scoreboard is not like it is in other games. Play as a team and stop worrying about points. I'm the cutest most helpful montagne in the world getting my team free kills on the daily and they appreciate me no matter where I am on the scoreboard and vice versa. Be a team player and shut up!
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>>168631584
>>168631709
I wasnt complaining or anything, I just normally dont see things like this. Normally Highest kills = highest score
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>in a firefight through a wall hole
>teammate walks in front of me while I'm firing and gets headshot
>starts yelling in Spanish and English garbled together

Why do people do this
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>>168627672
>I'm the only vote for Blackbeard

you niggas gay as fuck
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>>168634465
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>>168631736
Yeah, the game seems to be more fucked than usual right now.

Played a game where I died to someone who didn't even show on my screen yet. Not even for a moment.
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>all these people abusing the clipping bug with monty to kill him by charging through him
Ubi pls.
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What if they added the ability to roll sideways while prone so you could move into a better position without having to get up or crawl slowly?
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>>168627280
>I'm the only Pulse main and one of two Thermite mains
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>>168635291
Siege 2 maybe
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>>168635107
I wouldnt even fucking care if there was space for people to actually circle him, but no, Ive had people butter themselves up and slip through the same doorway Im blocking and stab me in the back
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>>168601198
what in the jesus fuck is that thing
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Reposting in case people didn't see, also whoever the 3 fucks are that voted for attackers but not defenders, I wish you had been swallowed before you were concieved,
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_0DMP-mJLN6fXfzlU6rMKVq5kaIct9MK97MyEzMjQRo/edit#gid=0
Poll for Attacker Mains:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12359847
Poll for Defender Mains:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12359864
Hibana and Frost are the most picked in this general.
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>>168629330
>>latency peeking
Higher tick rate servers
>>hitboxes
Redo models/hitboxes
>>Matchmaking preferences
They're fine
>>Favella
Burn it
>>Bartlet
What's wrong with BU?
>>Plane
Needs a full redesign.
>>Shields
Don't pick them
>>Reddit
Burn it
>>Ranked
It's fine
>>Camera bugs
>>Gadget bugs
>>Baricade bugs
>>Reinforced wall bugs
>>Clientside debris
Ubi need to get their shit together
>>Uplay
What's wrong with it?
>>My attitude
You just need some dick
>>Weapon balance
It's fine as is for the most part.
>>Rate of fire supremacy
That's life
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>>168636350
No surprise there, they're probably the most solo-friendly heroes in the game.
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fuze needs to fuck off
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>>168637774
>*phoop* *phoop* *phoop* *phoop*
>...
>*BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
>round lost
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>>168637774
he's just bad design, pure rng
>>
>starting out the game
>3/5 matches my fucking teammates leave giving us a for sure loss
I'm getting really fucking pissed off at this game now. Why join a match and just leave, fuck everyone who does this.
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>>168638047
I swear it's not even RNG it's like he has heat seeking hockey pucks
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>>168637774
Am I the only one who thinks he is OP? Putting a gadget on a window and fuckign destroying everyone (up to three times mind you) is fucking stupid. I dont know why they increased the blast radius and gave him another thing.
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>>168637397
Yea as long as the one headshot rule exists 3 speeds and rate of fire will be king forever
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>>168637397
>Ranked
>It's fine
level requirement needs to be higher, and the matchmaking needs to have better matchups of rank instead of full teams of plats/diamonds going up against full teams of golds and lower

>uplay
haven't used the chat function since the redesign, but earlier it was so shitty that the ui literally couldn't keep up with your keyboard

you'd type out your message and press enter, but it would be busy trying to catch up so it would just cut your sentence off halfway
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Man this game has changed a lot in the past year. I started playing recently after barely playing since the summer and it feels so wrong. Shields are garbage instead of being practically invulnerable to small arms fire, shotguns are complete shit, and it feels like recoil on everything increased. I keep losing in situations that I thought I had for sure and it's incredibly frustrating

What's the new meta? Clearly the old tactic of shields on offense and roaming shotty defenders isn't viable anymore. I don't even know who's good after all the balance changes and new operators.
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>>168638769
Monty is still okay if the enemy doesn't try to be cheeky and glitch through you.
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>>168624545
As they should be
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>>168638275
They could at least make the grenades behave a bit more predictably.

I have died to grenades behind walls several meters away from the charge, while I've also survived charges going off straight above me. It's unbelievably random.
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>>168638769
>what's the meta
>clearly the old tactic of shields on offense and roaming shotty defenders isn't viable anymore
>I suck because I haven't played in a while clearly it's the game's fault
I think this is a case of git gud
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>Mira players
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Kills give 100 points each, that got you 400.
Assist gives you 75 points each, so 4th place guy with his kills and assists got 100 + 100 + 75 + 75 = 350.

Going by just kills and assists, he was only 50 points behind you. There's a lot of other things that grant points, like your drone finding the objective and enemies or you using abilities, that could very quickly make up that 50 point difference.

Usually, a player who's getting lots of kills is better and doing a lot of the above things, but someone could be helping the team a lot while not getting many kills, resulting in unexpected scoreboard results.
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>>168639427
>insta locks mira each round
>places her mirrors in a perfect positions to shoot it open from outside
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>>168638769
What has really changed are the players. Everyone has had time to work out the game, and now everyone knows how to do stuff like counter shields, and how to abuse the netcode to the fullest (stutter-peeking and dropshot galore these days).

And shotguns, aside from the blatantly-OP-at-their-release Super90 and SPAS12, have only gotten buffs since launch.
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>>168639192
Don't forget, injuring an enemy and then having a teammate finish them gives you an assist for like 75 points, while just confirming the kill yourself gives 50.
>>
MPX or SPAS12 on Valk?
>>
>get put in a game with three people under level 35
I mean, I know they have to get placed, but really?
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>>168639929
MPX if you need to REMOVE KEBAB.
SPAS12 if you need to REMOVE WALL.
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>>168639427
>console players
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>>168639929
roaming or point defense/no impact nades
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>>168639570
>Yacht
>Enemy Mira put a mirror on the back entrance wall
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>>168639929
MPX is one of the best guns in game
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>>168639427
>Complaining about Mira players on console
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>>168641218
>>168640384
>Mira players have a tendency to be fucking autistic on all platforms
>15,000 Mira related complaints on this site
>The one that's on console is invalidated solely because console
>>
Any other way to track stats outside of the game? Ubisoft's websites won't synch for me.
>>
As far as I can tell, the main results for top operators will probably remain stagnant, so there's not much point in worrying about if it changes. Currently the stats have Hibana as the most picked attacker here with a total of 9 out of 39 votes, while the most picked attackers are tied for Rook and Frost with both a total of 6 out of 34 votes, and a close bandit following at 5 out of 34 votes. The rankings go in this order for attackers: Hibana, Ash, Sledge, Thermite, Buck, Fuze, Twitch, Montagne, Blitz, Blackbeard, IQ, Capitao, Thatcher, Glaz, and Jackal with 0 mains. As for the defenders: Frost, Rook, Bandit, Mute, Valkyrie, Caveira, Echo, Jager, Smoke, Mira, Kapkan, Pulse, and Tachanka, Doc, and Castle with 0 votes each.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_0DMP-mJLN6fXfzlU6rMKVq5kaIct9MK97MyEzMjQRo/edit#gid=0
What do you guys think the data reflects about the players in this general?
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>>168641218
no ayys
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>>168612450
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>>168641525
https://r6stats.com/
use google next time
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>>168638047
>>168638230
It's not RNG or heat seeking. The Fuze pellets go from left to right every time. It's a clockwise bomb discharge.
Also someone make a new thread
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ezsOeX5mQ
well here's something weird for you guys
>>
Anybody not huge fans of the ACOG at all in this game? Prefer the reflex myself
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>>168642953
Deployable barricades for attackers? Seems like a neat idea for a shield you can put down for cover.
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>>168642963
acog on every single weapon that has the option or bust bro, apply yourself;
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>>168643247
I think I just need more practice with it. I like it on certain guns just not all of them.
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I just bought the season 2 pass but its still showing that I have to purchase the GEO characters.

Did I misread what the fucking pass offered? Are the characters not a part of it?
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>>168623606
4 armor
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>>168643790
Y2 Pass should have unlocked them
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>>168557680
pastebin anon, you should add the r6stats site and the official stats link in the guide
>>168642504
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>>168642953
This is basically the deployable shield for defenders
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>>168643790
it is, try restarting the game and uplay
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>>168639148
He's good if your team actually follows you but he can't really attack on his own. I miss the days when hip firing with your shield up was actually viable and could easily kill anyone within 10 feet of you. Now you're lucky to hit someone standing right in front of you

>>168639361
Well yeah you're absolutely right, I need to play more and get used to it again. There are quite a few changes I wasn't aware of though that get me killed and I have no idea idea how to play or counter the new ops. It would be nice to know some general strats so I''m not just repeatedly dying trying to figure it out through trial and error.

>>168639606
Yeah that is very true. I just haven't had the time to keep up with all the new ways to be a sneaky cunt while everyone else has been fine tuning their strategies.
>>
Is there seriously no penelty except for getting kicked when someone TK's you?
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>>168645130
2 hour ban for first offense, then 24 hours for the second. Not sure how long the ban is for the third.
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>>168635291
Does anyone else remember delta force? You used to be able to break dance by using the prone roll and spining.
>>
all drone operators should be removed from the game
being able to do damage to the enemy team with literally 0 risk to yourself is bullshit
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>>168646615
The risk is sitting still in a random location. Catching echos and anyone else on cams is fun as fuck.
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>>168646736
>be twitch
>sit still literally at spawn
>anyone trying to get you is now visible to your entire team and will be killed isntantly
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>>168647060
shoot her drones my dude it's not hard
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>>168647120
that's not the point, it's still completely unbalanced bullshit that she can damage you at no risk
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>>168646615
Echo doesnt do damage
So remove Twitch, but also Kapkan, Frost, and Fuze because 0 risk for free kills?
also lrn2aim
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>>168647207
Her team is at _risk_ of losing the round because by sitting at spawn and droning, her team is in a 4v5 fight.
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>>168647207
just shoot the shock drone and she can't hurt you
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>>168642504
>View all operators
>Jackal and Mira nowhere in sight

Shit site. I prefer http://rainbowstats.com/. Looks nicer, is autistically specific in information, and it actually updates.
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>>168646113
you could also fake die and get up again, shit was great.
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>>168557680
There was an Imgur with all of the operator backgrounds somewhere. Anyone have that?
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>>168648828
>>168648828
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>>168647207
how can one scrub be this ass blasted over a twitch drone?
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