/scg/edg/ Dangerous Star-Spangled Elite Citizen General #131:

congratulations on seeing your legs, /edg/

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Should I melt a Cutlass Black->Blue upgrade I've got sitting around for a Starfarer->Gemini upgrade?

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>can't customize ships without paying rl money
>can't customize appearance without paying rl money
jesus christ I'm not against a premium shop with extra "more detailed" customization stuff, but ALL of the customization options put in it is fucking ridiculous

>>168336287
>>168336343
are the dads upset about this? the ones in SC lost their shit about being able to fly and shoot in 3p for the longest time until the game actually came out and proved it offered no advantage whatsoever.

>>168336706
I think after the ship transfer fiasco fdev has gotten more reserved about listening to their forums bitch and use the stream reception as their green light / red light test.

>>168336697
have they ever released an update that also improved features in the base game for free? perhaps someone should tell them throwing your base players a bone is a thing people actually do because it generates goodwill, which they are horribly deficient in.

>>168336408

I'll be buying it, if it includes good helmets and suits.

I'd pay double that for cyber-limbs.

>>168336823
>ship transfer fiasco
I'd consider that more of a balance thing that a "muh immershun" thing.

>>168336963
>I'd pay double that for cyber-limbs.
at least we get bionic eyes for free

>>168336928
Looks better than Star Citizen to me, or at least as good.

>>168336697
It sounded like there would be a set of basic clothing options that you get for free, plus premium ones (that white/purple striped one they were using). But it'd be nice if ship paint were like that too, $5+ for plain solid colors is a bit much.
>>168336706
I can imagine them throwing fits at how far you can zoom the camera away from yourself.

>>168337014
it could have easily been
>free and wait
>pay rebuy cost for instant

There is no purpose to pay and wait all it ends up with is me flying somewhere and going afk for an hour until my ship shows up.

>>168336928
This is the first time this game looks good to me.
If they would lower the price for horizons i would buy it.

>>168336928
What's the circular thing on top?

>>168337450
the cockpit

>>168337391
it went from 50 something € down to 25 and it's still too much for you? where were you when you could get the base AND horizons for 50 something € ?

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>>168337497
Eh?

>>168337339
>$5+ for plain solid colors is a bit much
exactly, I mean I'm okay paying for skull designs and all that faggotry, but having to pay $6 min for FUCKING COLOR VARIATIONS is so retarded
should be unlockable through missions and whatnot, or outright purchaseable with in-game money, or both
what the fuck

>>168337621
just looks like a hatch. the bulk of ED ships don't actually have interiors, so they can just slap stuff wherever

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>tfw finally get a sassy black woman copilot

>>168336596
It still amazes me how they somehow managed to make both the 300 series and 85x look sleek from some angles but like shit from all others.

>>168337372
Isn't rebuy cost kind of trivial at higher levels? maybe something increasing and with a cd, kinda like how respecs used to work back in vanilla wow if you ever played that.
I think the reasoning might have been how it would be really cheesy having a "jump ship" with nothing but a huge FSD and basically anything else, then a "combat ship" with shitty jump range, and being able to swap them almost on the fly. But I agree, more options for convenience would have been great, it could have been a money sink too.

>>168338318
a few hours would be a reasonable wait,days however

>>168336437
Will I like Elite: Dangerous If I'm a X series fag that used to space autism and interstellar jewing?

>pls reply

>>168339027
maybe

>>168339027
Since you've said you're a fan of X series, a pretty fucking boring, buggy and autistic space sim, then you'll definately should get ED.

>>168339268
i mean x:rebirth had a story and control of multiple ships

>>168339406
Are you implying both of those were any good or worthwile?

>>168339506
When they didn't bug out yeah

Anyone around 17D to give an update of what's up?

>>168336837
Yes. But FDev's 'improvements' to features are generally minimal and do not actually achieve what the players wanted anyway.

As a general rule they don't actually improve things. The entire game is a first pass that never went under revision and instead was pushed out the door.

>>168339742
Bullshit, the primitive haphazardly assembled management sim layer in X games was never good.

Story was always filler garbage.

>>168338318
>Isn't rebuy cost kind of trivial at higher levels?
My FdLs rebuy is 11mil I can reasonably do that 20 times before I'm in trouble.

It's only trivial for a select group of players.

>>168337014
Balance of what? This isn't like EVE where logistics of materials and resources actually have effects on a functional economy and other players.

If player A tranfers his ship across the bubble in a few seconds who gives a shit? How exactly does that effect anyone else? There's nothing to balance.

>>168337621
Fairly sure it's a hardpoint. There's one of the bottom too that they showed off in camera mode.

>>168338318
>think the reasoning might have been how it would be really cheesy having a "jump ship" with nothing but a huge FSD and basically anything else, then a "combat ship" with shitty jump range, and being able to swap them almost on the fly. But I agree, more options for convenience would have been great, it could have been a money sink too.

No way there is a much better built in game mechanic.

The shipyard is required for a ship transfer
Paying for a transfer to be instant could have just been your insurance paying the cost of dismantling the ship at one location for parts and rebuilding it at the other location.

They could have just played a little cut scene of your ship being rebuilt

When is the next expanse episode?

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>>168339027
No. X actually has has a functional world even if it's populated entirely by NPCs. Elite is a like a loony toons scenery painted on a canyon wall. Go too close and you smack into it.

>>168340196

Tomorrow coyo

>>168340357
>a functional world
Elaborate on this, and nefore you say MUH CHANGING PRICES keep in mind how miniscule is that and prices change in ED too.

>like a loony toons scenery painted on a canyon wall
But that's literally X3 where planets are 2D backgrounds, At least ED has realistic 3D space.

>>168340663
Been awhile since I played X but I thought NPCs in the X games actually exist. They travel around their routes buying and selling things.

Whereas Elite's NPCs are generated when you pop into an instance and disappear when you leave.

>>168340663
I assume something to the extent of not having randomly named mr pirate that appears on your ass no matter where in deep space you are throwing a canned line at you before attacking, but rather having something closer to SC's subsumption where the NPCs actually move from place to place and prices are a function of a real economy, though I could be wrong.

>>168340663

As far as I know, X3 had an economy that entirely ran itself, the only "cheat" being that NPC Solar Power Plants didn't actually need any resources to produce fuel to ensure that the entire thing never ground to a halt.

>>168337621

I have that ship, it opens up and reveals an orange glowing thing when you're on high heat (I'm guessing anyway, since I was fuel-scooping at the time). Heat sink or something.

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Flying back to the bubble from Colonia is suffering.

>>168340031
>It's only trivial for a select group of players.
It's usually that "select group of players" that would like to take advantage of an instant transfer like that, and they should, but there should also be some sort of soft-capped limit, so that's why I said an increasing cost with a cooldown could have been a good compromise.

>>168340046
I would assume they want to reinforce the strengths and weaknesses of the different ships types and outfits.

>logistics of materials and resources actually have effects on a functional economy
The BGS, even if shitty and shallow, it's still there.

>>168341315
>Actually going to Dadonia

>>168341084
solar panel/s?

>>168341386
I wanted to do it once just to do it. Not like there's anything else to do in this game.

I saw more people in once place in Colonia than I ever do in the bubble. Feels more lively somehow.

CGs to build a frame shift jump gate between the bubbles would be cool but the explorer Dad's would probably bitch and moan about how easy kids would have it if that happened and that in their day they jumped 1000 times, uphill, bothways and they liked it.

>>168341426

I dunno, it spins around and shit, then closes when you move away from the star as you cool (I think that's why it closes anyway)

I don't know shit though

>>168340835
They also exist in ED since couple of recent patches, they have logical routes and you can follow them from sc to normal space.

>>168340907
>randomly named mr pirate that appears on your ass
But that happened in X too, what the fuck?
>closer to SC's subsumption where the NPCs actually move from place to place and prices are a function of a real economy
Since when SC has real economy and NPCs?

>>168340989
Again, prices change in ED too, both from your actions and actions of others. Maybe not to a scope you imagine it too but ED has a bigger world also.

At that point question is, why not play a competent tycoon sim from the get go instead of a buggy and basic as fuck slapped on mess of code you need to sorta make work through mods?

>>168340190
that would only work if the station you are rebuilding it at has the modules and the ship

>people in the facebook group I'm in are all disappointed
>I'm actually really excited
Lucky this is anonymous, is anyone here from the carebear free zone?

Also what's the best way to make a few billion? I own every ship in the game but my funds are running kinda low.

>>168343570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahL3UTqycdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynELHNqh0w

Someone explain the "commando" meme to me.

>>168343935
It's how shitizens steal our o7 CMDR meme.

>>168340180
The FDL doesn't have a hardpoint up top like the bottom does.

Any tips for CZ griding?

Seems like every time i try to do it, like 5-6 ships spawn right on top of me and they all attack me at once.

Any way to avoid that shit?

>>168343921
Wu guinagi/Hip>Sothis/Ceos

>>168344595

I always wait a couple minutes for everything to spawn in and them all to get focused on each other before picking a side

unless a side is already picked for you, in which case just boost the fuck out of there and return without the aggro

>>168325708
Did you not hear? Sandi is IN SQ42.

>>168345173
But can i tickle her?

>trying to get some god tier boosters
>can't find a single untypical shield scan
WHERE THE FUCK DO I FIND THESE THINGS

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ITT: goons

You can usually tell them apart because they pick on devs personally and hatefully, especially Chris, Ben and Sandi.

But they make funny pics.

>>168344123
*it's how goons steal your CMDR meme. other goon tell-words include but are not limited to CiG, croberts, jpeg, shitizen, cultist, other terms that may seem like they are goonish but are more likely anons making fun of them are ELE, 90 days, tenbux, and various EvE terminology.

>>168345965
uh no we pick on Ben because he's bad for the game. the retarded /x/pol/ tier speculations about the personal lives of other random devs though, yeah that's goonism.

>>168346051
Goons don't have a monopoly on the word cultist. I use it too.

>>168346051
Goons don't have a monopoly on the word shitizen. I use it too.

>>168346360
Or shitizen.
I will forever refer to myself as a shitizen purely on the basis that I would aspyixiate if I ever pronounced "I'm a Star Citizen!", due to the immense levels of autism that would overcome me on my youtube/twitch live stream to 13 viewers to get me MVP of the week in a reddit-centric community that I don't give a fuck about.

tl:dr i'm fucking taking Shitizen back for /scg/ you fucking porch monkeys.

>Yet another general that is going to succumb to Waifu posting

another one bites the dust.....

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What will the Origin 600 look like?

>it's /scg/ having it's goon scare moment episode
Merge was a mistake.

>>168340835
>Been awhile since I played X but I thought NPCs in the X games actually exist. They travel around their routes buying and selling things.
While that is true, it doesn't really change anything. NPC ships were generated on the fly, and shooting them down did nothing but ruin your reputation with that faction. IIRC you could literally camp a certain station and kill any ship coming out of it, and they'd never stop coming.
>>168340989
X3 tried to have a functional economy, but failed spectacularly. Any production chain more complicated than A+B is guaranteed to grind to a halt. Advanced weapons pretty much never get produced ever, and you can't even deliver the resources yourself because the game removes "unprofitable" factories automatically. AFAIK you have to wait for one of the weapons to spawn in one of the trading stations, then use a duping exploit to get more of them, just to fully equip one heavy fighter.

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>>168346794
DO NOT TEMPT ME FRODO.

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I wonder what that new clock icon in the right top panel does?

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>>168346820
like this


>>168347325
tells time

>>168347325
oh no..
that better not be a fucking timer
IT BETTER NOT BE A FUCKING TIME
I SWEAR TO GOD IF THAT IS A WAITING TIME
I ALREADY GOT DISAPPOINTED WITH SPACE LESBIANS DO NOT MAKE IT HAVE A LOADING TIME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>168346794
>short haired chicks are your fetish
PRAISE BRABEN

3.0 when? The lack of an estimate at this point worries me.

>>168348134
Before 4.0.

>>168348134
after 2.0

>>168348134
Two

>>168348134
more jaypegs are required to fuel the fidelitron productionator

Two star citizen questions:

Is the cutlass a turning brick?

Also: 325a vs avenger vs gladius for dogfighting. Rate these and tell me why.

>>168348134

Buy more ships Anon.

>>168348347
>Is the cutlass a turning brick?
If it was a car, it would be a full size sedan. Not great and worthless on a track, but it can get out of it's own way.

325a: wildcard. wait for the rework. the meme is it has an advanced weapons radar.

Avenger: I assume you mean the Warlock, which is very useful in a team, otherwise, it's a slightly better starter ship.

Gladius: Actual combat ship. Best missile load of the three. Need a Hornet or Sabre for a better fighter.

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Posting for Comfy

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/58a30b606139d-relaxing-in-a-spaceship-comfy-in-bed.php

>>168348931
isn't the cutl;ass a lot more of a wildcard at this point? it's rework is actually in progress, and it's pretty significant, changing the entire shape of the ship and it's thruster location and center of gravity, while the 300 series rework has not started and may not change the flight model whenever (if) it does happen.

>>168350823
Not really. The 300 series is functionally broken as a design and has to have something significant done to make the ships usable with item 2.0 and cargo. The Cutlass was changed a lot, but inside it's own footprint. As far as handling, it should be better than a Lancer but not quite a Vanguard.

300 series rework could be anything from a cargo pod and re-skin to a whole new ship. If they don't mount a cargo pod under it, it will almost have to grow in size.

>>168351340
>If they don't mount a cargo pod under it
pretty sure they said that's what they're gonna do. I don't think it's broken at all, the 325a is one of the better ships I've rented. the biggest problem it has is with a mechanic that doesn't exist yet, so I wouldn't be holding my breath for that rework.

>>168351569
>>168351340
Yeah, I think the long touted 300 series rework, is gonna be more like the 2.6.1 super hornet update. It'll get some cosmetic polish to bring it in-line with item2.0 and the Origin style guide (85x established) rather than a full rebuild like the Cutlass.

>>168351569
The 300i strafes left constantly, unless they fixed that. 315p has a tractor beam, jump scanner, and jump drive that won't even be usable until 3.1 for tractor beam and 4.0 for any jump points, 325a is supposed to do some shit with its radar but who knows, and the 350r is too heavy to compete with M50 and Razor.

Try a M50 with Strife mass drivers for a rental. Amazeballs.

>>168351762
Who knows? I think the cargo pod is a patch, and not really well thought out given all the wasted space in the current design. I would be surprised if CR lets it go at that.

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Comfy cabin pressure alert

>>168352473
>muh tractor beam
cutlass and caterpillar have them too, cat even has a room dedicated to it, that doesn't mean they'll function any time in the next six months.

So after skimming through the thread, Frontier has actually made a third person camera? The dads abhorred the idea of a third person camera last time I checked.

>>168352501
will you be able to watch your CMDR suffocate and die in the new update, or will they just stoically stare forward at their own demise?

>>168352653
Which Cutlass? Black doesn't afaik. It might be integral to cargo, so we get tractor beams in 3.0. I think 3.2 with salvage is more likely.

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>>168336928
I think I am excited about Elite: Dangerous.

>>168353465
this is probably the wrong place for you then.

>>168353106
yeah idk I think the tractor beam predates the variants, at one early point there was actually a button to deploy it, it folded out the back door.

>>168353465
I'm excited to see (you) in my cockpit, slut.

>>168352473
I coudl absolutely see it getting a cargo pod, but not a "box" a la Aurora. Some sort of sleek teardrop shaped (BMW + space wasting) underbelly pod, to go with its general space-wasting design. It supposed to be a style over substance type vehicle (but still functional) so, why not?

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Ship naming incoming

>>168353465
The second they fix ship transfers I will start playing again.

>>168354658
Fucking finally christ. I bet it'll still be broken and shitty but I'll take it.

>>168353657
I remember that now that you mention it. Holy shit this game has taken a while.

>>168353880
I'm not saying it won't get one, but I just think the cargo pod idea won't work with CR's aesthetic. Once he sees a pregnant 300i, I would bet money that he says no.

>>168354790
>Fucking finally
As a person who doesn't know what to do with this feature, can you share why you are excited?

>patch hits
>everyone is either Harbinger of doom666 or xxWeebuvielEidolonWeebusxxx

>>168354790
How could they fuck up a string of text

You know what, you're probably right. They'll find a way.

>>168355038
I own multiple imperial couriers. I need to able to differentiate them.

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How do I make money doing passenger missions?

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>>168355252
Literally why?

>>168355489
They're now part of the vision

>>168355512
One is engineered for pure speed another is more general use.

Swapping out every module every time I want to change loadouts is ass.

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c-cute

>>168355767
I hope it has actual jump range. Passenger missions in those things suck dick.

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>>168354845
>Holy shit this game has taken a while.
it really hits me when I come across these old screenshots. predating webm technology here

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>>168356758
>old screenshots
Have some more.
http://imgur.com/a/3tKSP

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I'm in Quince and I've gotten my Imperial rank up to neutral and they are giving me Imperial Navy smuggling missions. Are these rank missions? Will ranking up improve the payout in Quince? I get 400-500k max per mission and I'm fully allied with the 4 factions. I have almost enough for a Fed Funship, core internals, and rebuy.

Should I do the smuggling mission and come back? I'm about halfway to my goal, but I'll run this smuggling mission and rank up if I can speed this up a bunch.

>>168357141
yes no no

>>168357141

Increased Rank with the higher up faction doesn't give increased payout. 99% sure on that.

Only the local rep+combat rank counts in that.

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>>168357293
>>168357374
I'm maxed out with the 4 factions that give scan missions. RNGesus just hasn't smiled on me yet.
Thanks.

>>168356880
RIP piss fog

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>Docking request denied
Move god damn it

>>168358065
Me on the pad.

>>168358065
Ram him faggot.

>>168355489
Sightseeing missions offer the best money:distance ratio, but they're down at the moment.

https://twitter.com/Frontier_Help/status/831563983488446464

They might VISION the rep gain away.

>>168358397
>https://twitter.com/Frontier_Help/status/831563983488446464
RIP

>>168358397
>stability reasons
It doesn't take two years of mindless grinding to reach Elite Explorer. This has been rectified.

Also, I'm amazed that even then they still stick to their release schedule like fucking lemmings. SOFTWARE DESIGN DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT ANYMORE, YOU FUCKING OLDFARTS.

Waterfall is DEAD! DEAAAAAADDDDDD!

>>168354845
>a pregnant 300i
What a glorious image. 10/10 would inseminate again.

>>168356880
Good god this game was ugly once-upon-a-time.

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God damn it this shit again,why are they all in ASPXs?

>>168360079
it's the best ship :)

>>168353690
L-Lewd

>>168360079
Why don't you recognize the true end game ship, anon? There is nothing another ship can do that an AspX can't do. You just like those fighting ships cause a bully took your lunch money and now you want to take it out on serious explorers. Shame on you.

:^)

>>168359237
Doesn't look so bad in the album

>>168360079
Leave him alone anon he's busy taking selfies.

>>168358397
>they're down at the moment
that the FUCK

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>>168361412

>>168361641
>browsing the gulag with user avatars enabled
there can be no bravery without madness

>>168361641
>cheat
what the FUCK

>>168353465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQKs-SKAl8c

>>168363808
fiver may be the best thing anyone has ever made.

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praises be the Quince overlords

Is this a good ship for me to engineer?

https://coriolis.io/outfit/federal_gunship/0pktkFflkduskf47l272727272424040404042d4f2d2727.Iw18aQ==.Aw18aQ==?bn=Mr.%20T%27s%20Funship

Was inspired by this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1oBDQHhfM

>>168366234
>Using the old coriolis.io
https://coriolis.edcd.io/

>>168366234
>>168366342
Sorry everybody. Updated.

https://eddp.co/u/ie1vxbE3

Is that worth doing?

>>168366234
>not being inspired by this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ovBXUNIpN4

>>168366967
One ship at a time god damn it.

>>168366928
Wow the links can be shortened? That's fucking cool.

>>168341084
It's the heat vents for the ship. All of the ships have this somewhere.

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>>168366928
The old BRRRRRT build with incendiaries plus corrosive and emissive still works, but is much less effective on hulls now due to the loss of the kinetic damage last patch. Grinding down hulls takes more time. You might want to swap some MCs for OC autoloaders to retain the kinetic damage against hulls. Works for PvE at any rate.

The PvP meta is probably OC High Yield cannons plus corrosive plus cancer topedoes.

>>168366928

The Gunship is really fun, if you want to Engineer a ship for combat it's one of the better choices available.

You might want to drop the undersized S5 HRP for a Fighter bay as Fighters do quite a bit of damage (roughly the same as 2 Large hardpoints). If you go for an AI fighter, raise one from the lowest possible rank so they don't jew you out of extra money. Give them a Taipan as the AI can't cope with how agile the GU fighter is.

>>168367625
>meta for PvP
nigga, I ain't even started engineers yet. I got time to look that shit up later. I'm gonna have me some fun.

>>168367792
>roughly the same [damage] as 2 Large hardpoints
Done.

Seems to be a lot of buzz regarding ED at the moment. Did they update the game or something?

>>168370872
2.3 update coming soon.

>>168370959

Soon, "soon", (((soon))), or soon™?

>>168371291

Beta/PTR next week, so it'll hit the live server at the end of March most likely.

>>168371291
"(((soon)))"

>>168371291
this isn't SC. when FDev says soon, they mean within the next 2-3 weeks

SPACE LEGS?

>>168372396
even better. space selfies

>>168372661

But no space legs yet???

>>168372396
Coming in 3.0

maybe

>>168372853
You can see your legs. Does that count?

>>168336928
How the fuck did it take them fucking years to do this?

>>168375058
They had a very, very, very vocal subset of mentally dwarfed people convincing them not to.

>>168366928
No Module protection?

>>168375254
>>168375058
External camera, for immersion purposes, should be a literal camera that you have to buy that takes up a weapon or utility mount OR a drone requiring an internal slot and multiple drones that expire when you leave regular space.

>>168375058
Dads hating fun.

>>168375449
Shut the fuck up!
I saw people unironically saying that on reddit.
Made me want to go on a killing spree.
Also the forums are such cancer I am forced to use reddit which is another problem.

>>168375449
>For immersion purposes

And just like that, the dads IMMEDIATELY ruin another decent addition.

>>168375448
Is there a difference between a size 2 and 4? Both say 60% protection.

>>168375449
I'm going to post this shit to the forums. I'm at the point where I just want to ruin the game and the dads will be my tool to do so. I will make Elite the next Daikatana.

>>168376443
Can't make the situation worse than it already is. There are even more retarded dads. It's dads all the way down.

>>168376443
pissing in a sea of piss are we?

>>168376740
It's all I have left.
They've taken everything else.

>Down to only 10 rebuys worth of money in the bank account
>Ship is nearing Engineering perfection

so uh what's going on at 17D

>>168345965
>how doth the little crocodile improve his shining tail

>>168377861
np

WHY THE FUCK DID CIG CHANGE THE PRICE OF THE SUPER HORNET TO 180 DOLLARS AND NOT TELL ANYONE?

>>168378302
Valentine's Day sale?

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>https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/cobra_mk_iv?code=A4pataFaladasaf27h7h242424090h03032b2b026jC26t.Iw18SQ%3D%3D.Aw18SQ%3D%3D.&bn=1

Is this possible to fly at all, or is hull tanking impossible? Also is there a way to give this small ship a speed boost without resorting to reduce bulkheads?

>>168379096
>MKIV
>Ever

>>168379194

Yeah I heard bad things about it, but it sure has a lot of utility slots for a small and is cheap.

>>168379353
Save those credits for an AspX. Hell, even a Federal Dropship if you like hulltanking and slots.

>>168378302

I have a SH, so I dont care.

>>168379690

>https://coriolis.io/outfit/asp/0pftfFflidfsnf51a1a242424240c00040h4f0402586jC26t.Iw18WQ==.Aw18WQ==

?

>>168375561
>Also the forums are such cancer I am forced to use reddit which is another problem.
You have my condolences

>>168378420

Yeah, but they didn't tell ANYONE.

interior models when?
I want ED to be like SC

>>168384650
Next 60 bucks. Not even joking

>>168360079
>tfw fly python because high cargo with actual defense on it in case I want to do courier missions

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best places to grind fed rank?

>>168388365
star trek online

>>168388365
>>168388365

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DTHR8Up92A&t=1s

Why can't you niggers use google?

so FD literally removed VIP missions so people can't use it to grind explorer rank?

>>168388959
guess i should buy horizons

>>168378302
how much is it normally?

>>168391009
it started out at 160 i think

>>168391143
Non-shitizen here.

Can you get in a Hornet or whatever just by grinding in-game?

What do you get for your $180 that distinguishes it from the $35 starter package?

Sorry, let me rephrase.

Is it shit because it's p2w and unless you spend irl money, you can't get the nice ships?

Or is it shit because even when you spend irl money, you don't get anything that poorfags can have as well?

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Something's gotta give

>>168390482
Yes. No one escapes the Vision.

>>168391945
You can earn everything in game,buying ships supports the development and skips gameplay

>>168390482
nah, performance issues ;-)

>>168391958
Is it possible to destroy a docked ship?

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>>168392157
i'm tempted to find out

>>168392484
do it, faggot

>>168391143
Oh. Well, they've always said the prices are going to go up as we get closer to release. idgaf personally

>>168392104
I've always wondered what that lifetime insurance exactly is but never bothered using google.
Can I have a quick rundown?

>>168392721
It's the space equivalent of repair costs

>>168392721
WoW repair costs taken away

>>168392982
>>168393073
so people who paid now for those ships will NEVER EVER pay to get them back when destroyed?

>>168392721
>lifetime insurance
As far as I can tell, if you backed before Nov 26 2012, your ship hull (not modules/cargo) gets replaced, possibly for free, in the event of destruction or in-game theft. Stealing it is 'allowed' though, the consequences are in-game and avoidable by going to pirate bases or whatever.

>>168393130
yeah

>>168393130
>so people who paid now for those ships will NEVER EVER pay to get them back when destroyed?
Only before Nov26 2012 I think, after that the insurance lasts a few (five?) months or something.

>>168393130
if they don't skip the cooldown timer,no

>>168393130
and this is why I got my Merchantman LTI

>>168393156
>>168393190
>>168393250
>>168393285
that's kind of p2w then

>>168393139
what happens if you steal a life time insuranced ship?
will the insurance carry over to you?

>>168393318
not really, there's only so many people that jumped in that early. there's orders of magnitude more that came later.

>>168393318
Of course not

>>168392484
Flash your lights at him

>>168393139
>>168393190
wtf, you could get LTI over christmas?
Or at least last anniversary

>>168393540
Every new ship comes with LTI,you can upgrade that ship to another and still keep the LTI

>>168393318
>what happens if you steal a life time insured ship?
>will the insurance carry over to you?

All there is to go on is the FAQ so we can't say for sure but what the FAQ says is (and it includes the word 'probably'):
* the insurance only transfers if 'legally' gifted in-game
* after the insurance claim, the hull ID becomes tagged as stolen
* stolen hulls cannot be sold in 'legal' ship vendors (pirate bases maybe though)
* police who scan the ship will identify it as stolen
* lawful bases will not permit the ship to land
* it 'may' be possible to purchase a new forged hull ID from pirate bases
* presumably, selling before the insurance claim will be profitable
* there are 'consequences' for insurance fraud, including revoking the lifetime insurance and in-game fines for the other party

So it seems like stalking backers and stealing their capitals could be profitable if you did it right. Hot-foot it for a pirate base and rebadge it and you have a legal capital.
Or steal their fighter and sell it asap, if you're quick enough then you make cash. Maybe try and leave them stranded somewhere so that you can land and sell it before they can claim?

>>168393627
So it isn't "Only before November 2012" because no one isn't going to take that deal if they know about it

>>168393842
The insurance isn't going to carry over to other ships or cover upgrades like weapons or powerplants that are the real moneysinks(in ED atleast)

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The fuck is this?I can't cash it in

>>168394172
>INSUFFICIENT DATA CAPACITY
Go into your inventory and delete data you don't need.

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>>168393959
Yeah I know how it works, I was just wondering why early backing was relevant. They made ships like the dragonfly, argo, 85x and razor specifically because they're small enough to let people upgrade to get the good ships with LTI.
The thing is CIG will want new people buying SC when it comes out, and making LTI that big a deal will drive them the fuck off.

Though I can't wait for the forums to change from "it's not p2w it's just a minor perk" to "this doesn't feel like enough of a reward please increase it".

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>>168394267
thanks

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>Attempting to unlock and get all Engineers to grade 5 as a new player
>About halfway done

At this point I don't know why I'm doing it, but goddamn am I going to have amazing ships once this is done.

One day of resource farming on a couple planets coupled with some wandering around looking for signals and some light bounty hunting for simple parts gave me enough resources to work on multiple ones for days

But goddamn there are definitely some annoying as fuck scans/components to acquire.

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>>168396105
>D'oh

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>this community

Is there any non-furry guilds for this game?

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>>168396625
>good
>not furry

pick one

>>168345965
>pick on devs
>Sandi
>devs
>Sand
>sssssssss
>snake woman
>contributes anything

>>168397163
Sandi is a glorified trophy wife but no one else really cares about her
Like I wish she wasn't there but I don't look into her history and where she bought her handbags

Why doesn't this group have an org? Don't shitters want to play with shitters?

>>168398363
anons can't stand each other even playing in singleplayer games

>>168398363
ved literally exists, the furshit meme was perpetuated by a rival group that wanted to be the designated /scg/ org and were buttfrustrated we already had one.

>>168398363
Does Elite have guilds/corps/orgs?

>>168399128
if you ask for it on the forum, and can prove that you have a big enough group, your guild can be injected as a minor faction into the game universe, yes.

you can't declare an allegiance to a minor faction, but you can run missions for them to take over various systems

my guild, the Candy Crew, operates out of Irusan with 8 systems now under our control.

>>168398929
>v-v-ved isn't a furry org, h-h-honest
nigger please. once its on the net you cannot rewrite history. there is a video of one of the main faggots aroused by someone licking their cats arsehole for eve subscription and the endless screenshots of him erping with anthromorphic avatars

>>168399245
>has enough people to get put in as a minor faction
>gives them the faggiest name possible
and people wonder why ED is shit

>>168399292
>one fag in a group of 500
damn I guess it's all tainted then. I havent seen that vid but based on the 'evidence' I have seen I can only assume you're reaching hard to make something out of nothing.

>>168399417
i only listed one as he is one of the leadership group. i'm sure i could post more dirt, but i think letting people know the org is being run by a furry homo who likes to watch people lick catbutts is enough.

>>168399575
there is no leadership group. there is a core of ten or so chat regulars, but it cycles through based on who is spending a lot of time there. the core group changes month to month. there is only one real 'leader' and he doesn't lead anything, he rarely even plays when there's a game night. the guy I assume you're talking about has hardly even been dropping in for the past year and mostly plays elite.

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>was bitter Cutlass owner for years
>got hype as fuck when they've revealed the revamp
>check latest monthly report
>Oh shit, son, it's Cutlass!
>it's even bigger than it was before
>it looks even bigger than Freelancer now
What the fuck is this shit?

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a cat is fine too

>>168399783
not him but lol
this place makes the official forums look laid back when the org mods get pissy

>>168399898
ah yes, the orgs own the 4chan moderation that actual political PACs tried and failed to infiltrate and use them to cover up their past. it couldn't be that everyone is just reporting the autistic spam.

I'd say you lot are about even when it comes to mental illness.

>>168399783
>there is no leadership group
lies make the baby jesus cry

this guy >>168399898 speaks true
images like that aren't made because of jealousy, they are made because that org is a bunch of ego faggots that report everything they dont like

>>168400017
"and you're a fucking faggot
and no less culpable than I
>hurr someone's using a different discord
lop off your dick and eat some buckshot for all i care
more lively company than a lot of you fucking losers"

>>168400156
how can they be the ego faggots when you are always the one to bring them up?

>>168400017
>everyone is just reporting the autistic spam
>everyone in ved is just reporting
fixed for truth

>>168400196
mental illness.

>>168400231
i'm not >>168398929 you are, faggot.

>>168400316
>why doesn't the group have an org?
>it does
>HOLY SHIT THE EGO ON THESE FAGS

>>168400406
/scg/ has never had an org and never wanted. your group of furry autists just keep trying to force themselves on the general.

faggot

Vederation?

>>168400307
the quotes were a hint lol

>>168400528
mental illness. ved was created in the /v/ generals before /scg/ even existed. speaking of rewriting history, you cannot credibly deny that ved started this general. I was here for it. some furfags moved in later, were quickly told to temper their fucking autism, and quickly did so. you have continued to cry about it though, for four fucking years.

>>168400742
it's code for homosexuals

>>168400792
>muh history
thanks for proving my point. /scg/ never had an org and never wanted one. you furry autists just tried to force your gayness on some guys who wants to play a space sims. fuck off faggot and take your circus of autism back to whatever shithole general you sprang from.

>>168400946
you don't speak for 58 unique posters you fucking spastic

I'm sure ved will exist and everything but like every other general the majority of the posters won't be in it

Also plax is a 2010 join date goon so no ty

>>168401059
i do when i am posting from 56 different devices you sad pathetic social retard. no need to get upset over anyone with a braincell or a sperm count thinks you and your friends are gay.

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>there isn't someone reading this general right now crying into their fursuit while pressing the report button constantly.

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Still no word on 3.0?

>>168401617
two weeks, tops.

>>168401617
nope,try after a month

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>>168401617
nope

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>>168401719
>>168401717
>>168401686
You know, all the good stuff is AFTER 3.0 and we only get multiple systems in 4.0 which was slated for 12 months after 3.0 during Citizencon which we now know was nowhere near ready, either being lies or CR being clueless.

How many more ships are they going to release because at this rate I want to forget this game for another year at least.

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Something's gotta give

>>168401956
at least 2 more on the way, a hurricane and something "dark". the only progress is ship sales, everything else is bug town

>>168402020
>3mb
i aint loading that shit nigga

>>168402195
what are you australian?

>>168402115
>something "dark"

https://youtu.be/aZ9MUycYD6Y?t=9

>>168402234
no way i'm kiwi

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>>168402305
>something "dark"
Maybe an Esperia Kr'thrak ship

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>>168402370

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>>168402445
According to the happy hour a few days ago we haven't directly made contact with the Kr'Thrak but we may get one of their ships.

>>168402508
>happy hour
the only thing happy about that hour is when its over

>>168402370
KrThak have had no contact, people would have to go through the entire Xian empire to get there because muh star roads
We only know about them from the Xian who are obviously biased

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>>168402668
I only tuned in for like 1 minute and got some useful info then closed the video.

>>168402669
Yeah but we could still get hold of one of their ships. That's what intelligence operatives do. Good relations with the Xi'an are important too.

I'd rather have more ships from the species we'll actually be in contact with so those areas feel more geniune

>>168378302
Well, Ben did say that the Super Hornet is gonna get more expensive when they released the Wildfire or whatever it's called.

>>168356758

oh wow the testbed you could load in by swapping with the hangar level.

fun times

So is there just no actual space-mundanity game out there to satisfy the German work-as-hobby gamer demographic? Is that what the dads problem really is and why they've been trying to alter games that never originally wanted to be that?

>>168407309
X series is made by germans

>>168407309
There was X3 but we've all played it to death

>>168407309
>work-as-hobby
That would be Eve.

I played in a Dad-corp in Eve. Mostly single guys and far more easy going than the whingers in this thread would suggest but basically the same demographic.

Elite could do worse than become Eve with joysticks but doing it off sales alone would be hard.

>>168393720
>* presumably, selling before the insurance claim will be profitable
>Hot-foot it for a pirate base and rebadge it and you have a legal capital.
Or steal their fighter and sell it asap, if you're quick enough then you make cash. Maybe try and leave them stranded somewhere so that you can land and sell it before they can claim?

I don't know where you're getting this idea. The only way your stolen ship is not getting almost immediately flagged as stolen is if you leave the aggrieved party stranded on a rock in the middle of no where. Even then, you won't be able to sell the ship legally. It just won't be marked as stolen. There's no way you can legally sell a ship without being its registered owner.

>>168393842
>So it isn't "Only before November 2012"

No. It was, then there was was such an uproar over it and little $$$ signs started spinning in chris and ben's heads, and first they made new concept ships still available with LTI, then there was a huge uproar about that from the 2012 backers, so ever since they've been selling what are essentially "LTI tokens" in the form of $30 concept ships which allow you to upgrade practically everything to LTI with minimal cost with a bit of store jiggery. As a consequence, the grey market collapsed and LTI is worth like $5 over a regular ship.

>>168408886
>There's no way you can legally sell a ship without being its registered owner
ok, I haven't played SC, I just figured there was an ingame shop for buying and selling ships similar to Privateer or Elite.

If it hasn't yet been claimed on insurance, I'd sort of expect that you could sell it. That was implied by the FAQ.

>>168394548
>making LTI that big a deal.

The fascinating thing about all of this is that no one (not even CIG) knows how much LTI will be "worth". We do know that it made CIG millions and millions of dollars though.

Really though, LTI will probably be worth practically nothing for smaller ships, all the way up to things ike the idris-m --a full frigate hull with military weapons and equipment--- will be priceless.

>>168409509
I wonder how "realistic" the entire insurance model will be.

Will your STI premium go up if you've had a substantial number of claims in a given period?

Can your STI/LTI be revoked if you turn pirate, and UEE Insurance Company decides you are a criminal?

Will premium/criminal status be tied to your character or the hull?

etc.

>>168409969
>Will your STI premium go up if you've had a substantial number of claims in a given period?
Has not been addressed specifically, but that makes sense.

Can your STI/LTI be revoked if you turn pirate, and UEE Insurance Company decides you are a criminal?
It was hinted long long ago that there would be different insurance for different purposes, so maybe.

Will premium/criminal status be tied to your character or the hull?
My personal understanding is the character. The hull is more of a matter if you own the title to sell it outright.

>>168410216
>
>
I forgot those.

>>168401059
he doesn't speak for me

>/v/ ever having a definitive org

shill alert

>>168409969
>Will your STI premium go up if you've had a substantial number of claims in a given period?
It "couldn't" do that, for gameplay reasons. It would price noobs out of the market.

Well, it could go up a bit but there would need to be caps. And the players who could most afford to pay it (the ones that rarely replace ships) would be the ones never paying it.

So I doubt that would happen in a game. Too simulation and the opposite of fun.

It was hinted that pirate factions might offer insurance to criminals.

>>168411394
>he doesn't speak for me
>>/v/ ever having a definitive org
This is why I laugh at /pol/tards who declare that /v/ is a /pol/ board or that 4chan hates niggers or liberals or whatever the fuck they're crying about that week. Posters on an anonymous image board are such a fucking random and broad group that you can't say that anyone is anything with an ounce of credibility.

>>168408219
at least eve is actually multiplayer. The game might suck but it's the metagame that's the real draw.

>>168415049

I liked being a trader and industrialist in EVE, it's a satisfying kind of feeling when you can buy materials from other players and build stuff for other players, along with handling transporting and logistics for stuff because the market you're in is experiencing a shortage and you're taking advantage of the inflated prices. Being a trader in Elite isn't as cool, it's just numbers that make no difference to anything on a screen. The most affecting thing you can do is post a lucrative trade route in some place like /vg/ and come back the next day and suddenly the route has run dry from everyone trading (in solo, of course.) I did that once with a system, found a really nice route and posted it on /vg/. Was gone the next day but guess what, it was right back a day later because everything just resets. It's a shit feeling when you know that everything you do has no real impact on the world. You're just trading for the sake of trading because you need something to do while watching Netflix.

>>168355038
Knowing FD it won't be visible to anyone besides yourself.

>>168416804
>Not naming your ships after every Angry Marines ship in their mini-comics.

Maximum Fuck here I come.

Why do you faggots have bursts of activity and then stop while the page sits on page 10 for an hour? Is everyone picking their wife's kids up from school?

i want to gank dads, where should I go?

>>168422274
another game,they'll just pull the plug

>>168421168

Dragon dildos.

>>168367625
>The PvP meta is probably OC High Yield cannons plus corrosive plus cancer topedoes.

It's all about slapping on as many efficient PAs as possible right now without melting yourself

>>168422274

EVE. Making a gank frigate that is able to alpha strike dads in shitfit haulers and mining barges is easy as piss.

>>168422445
Not if I kill them fast enough

>>168422274
Colonia

>>168422750
I actually have a meme 150 dps kestrel in eve but I got sick of eve.

What the fuck is even in Colonia? What is its purpose?

>>168422704
Dunno, I saw this and it looked like loads of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ozi03xtNA

Wew, cheeky.
Crusader on quiet AUS servers, dem frames to the second.

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>>168423582
>tfw forced to share servers with russians
o kurwa

>>168424214
Caм ты кypвa.

>>168426149
ey cheeki breeki how to fly spaci plani pyzdec nahuj

>>168423106
I think it was designed to be a safe space for dads who only explore. The average griefer isn't willing to fly their Corvette all the way out there, or spend the millions of credits and weeks to transport it either.
I'm pretty sure the reason we have timers on ship transfers is because the dads wanted to feel safe exploring by Colonia in solo without having to worry about those damn PvPers.

o7

>>168428073
I often dream of taking my murder boat anaconda out to colonia where it'll be total shooting gallery

>>168428275
Somebody tried to ram ships outside Quince the other day. Open was a ghost town almost immediately.

>>168428073
So it's Dadhalla?

>>168428073
SDC got a minor faction there, though.

I have a small problem you guys can maybe help me out with

I have a corvette with 5x Efficient beam lasers, but I also have 2x 4C PA's. I plan to Overcharge them, but the problem is my (3)charge-enhanced distributor needs 60% of a charge in order to actually fire ONE of them.

So I realize I need to change direction on this: Do I make the PA's efficient, or do I weapon focus my distributor?

>>168431190
Charge focus your distro and efficient them. Charge enhanced had faster regen then weapon focused at rank five and if I remember should be able to handle two efficient huge PAs

page 10

>>168435637
thanks for the update, commando

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I have an A rated conda, 350m in the bank, and I want to fucking die. What should I do anons?

>>168438707
fucking die,you got the right idea there

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>>168423106
>>168428073
>>168429189
>>168428275

Anon suffering my trip back from Colonia here. Colonia is basically exactly the same as the bubble. You might occasionally see another Commander but it's basically just lifeless NPCs flying about the handful of systems.

I saw maybe 5-7 Dads when I first docked, but they all quickly left and I only saw maybe three other people during the few days I spent there.

So if you're looking to gank some people out there, don't bother. You won't find anyone.

As for the practical uses of Colonia? It and the six outposts on the route to it basically serve as a bunch of repair stations. I doubt Frontier had any real idea in mind with that story other than "Hey, wouldn't it be cool it Jaques jumped coreward and started a second bubble!"

If grinding trading missions and BOOM data delivery is your thing it's not a bad spot. Every populated system is within one jump of every other system.

ved was a mistake long live kwa

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Cutlass got HUGE

>>168440020
Whaling expeditions when? I'm gonna try to get my org on board for admiral hunting. We even have way too many weebs just like you.

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>>168440053
That's over 2x as large as I thought it would be.

>>168440053
jc why are all the ships increasing in size

>>168440053
>CIG tells us that they realize the problem with the cutlass is that it's too much freighter and not enough fighter
>Decide to fix it by making the Cutlass twice as big

Good job team

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Man, fuck this Engineering bullshit. Is Fehu still at war?

Is it Massacre stacking like 17D or is it something else?

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>>168440053
Also, if a human is half as tall as the side door, just how xbox hueg is the cockpit?

>>168441076
feels good man

>>168441076
the seats raise and lower with the landing gear, which is pretty cool