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This game needs more ladies edition.

>What's new?
Lucio is the next hero, will be released on Feb 13th
https://youtu.be/MRlkCiPVmII [Embed]
>Latest In Development Video
https://youtu.be/3KTsPR2oeSE [Embed]
>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed]

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20529401/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-february-10-2017-temple-arena-2-9-2017
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532382/heroes-of-the-storm-hotfix-patch-notes-feb-8-2017-2-8-2017
>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20529509/weekly-sale-feb-7-14-2017-2-7-2017
>WoW Event; Play Warcraft hero with friends for free mounts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/for-azeroth-2-6-2017

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find join this Five Clown Fiesta?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

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>>168175920

>mfw team freedom just literally btfo no tommorow
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Second for spiders.
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>>168176202
that was absolutely embarrassing
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4. for waifus
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L E O R I C
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>tfw can't decide between Rexxar and Sgt. Hammer even though I haven't played them at all
HELP ME
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>>168176751
Rexxar!
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>>168176738

That's a great skin, lol
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>>168176751
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>>168176950
>>168177112
Now that I think about it, I fucking hate Rexxar's Unleash the Boars.
What the fuck is the purpose of that ultimate, honestly? Almost every ult is gamechanging, but his is straight up laughable.
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>>168177370
Boars are very strong anon. Super short cooldown, a bit of dmg and more importantly a 40% slow for 5seconds.

And they hit everything, the range on it is amazing and they always hit.
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>>168177692
Actually, I realized the upgrade on level 20 where boars roots people. That's pretty good if so. I retract from saying that.
Do you always go the root or Frenzy? It might be also situational since you can always have a team that's already really good at engaging or at CCing easily.
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>>168178168
Situational, I go wrath when I feel like I can stick my bear on a backline without it dying. If my bear gets bursted easily I take boars.

And yeah the 20 upgrade is insanely strong.
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>>168178168
>>168178447
General guideline is probably.
Q build you go boars
W build you go wrath
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>Get Abathur on your team lose.

What an interesting game.
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Sonya is the best!
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>>168178447
>>168179337
Got it. I'm going to buy him since I got more and more used to ALT+D'ing.
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>>168182893
>tfw you will never be valla or li-ming
>tfw sonya will never breed you every night
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>>168179558
What's a team lose?
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>>168182893
what's her right arm doing? fixing a wedgie?
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>>168184124
scratching her sweaty toned ass

I want to suck on her fingers and then have her sit down on my face until I'm a mindbroken whimpering mess
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Is there a discord?
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why does medivh get an amount healing score in the stat tab but abathur doesnt even though theyre both labeled as specialists?
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>>168175920
Valla a cute, CUTE!
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Holy shit I just got the "You Were Dropped!" thing 3 fucking times in the same match.

What kind of retarded network engineers did blizzard employ?
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Next stealth hero when?
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>>168183415
>tfw literally 4 assassins and 1 warrior QM memes
God damn. I know it's my first time, but he's fucking rough.
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>>168185759

Dear god no.

This game's meta is fucked enough as it is with the amount of stealth here.
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>>168186090
But more stealth heroes means more fun anon, don't you like fun?
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>>168185759
>QM's with nobody showing up on the minimap

thankful i moved to unranked
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Some guy here reported he got master league from 7-3 placements, well I just got 7-3 placements for Gold II...
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>>168188314
Bait on bait. Good job.
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>>168188371
What?
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>>168175920
DELETE THIS MAP
DELET
THIS
SHITTY ASS MAP
NOBODY LIKES IT, ITS NOT FUN WHAT FUCKING SPIDERS DONT DO DAMAGE FIRST 10 TIMES THEY ARE SUMMONED, ITS NOT FUN PLAYING SAFE TO NOT DROP THIS FUCKING CRYSTALS, ITS NOT FUN WHAT GAME LAST FOR HALF OF HOUR I`VE LOST THIS SHIT AFTER 30 MINUTES
DELET
THIS
MAP
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>mfw you finally realize why people ban diablo in draft
What a fucking stupid horned faggot.
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>>168188314

I've never even heard of anybody being placed higher than Diamond III, 500 points.
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>vs chogall in QM in fucking infernal shrines
nice... i guess..
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i have like a zero percent winrate on warhead. fuck this map. nobody soaks or ever prepares for the nukes. my team goes full retard constantly
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>>168189838
>go vs chogall
>always lose
WHAT
WERE
THEY
THINKING
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>168189980
just one of those maps where one team seems to have no clue what to do and the other is try hard as fug
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>>168188658
as long as we're deleting maps can you remove snowball bay
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>>168189980
Warhead seems fucking weird. The map is huge for a collection type objective, they spawn a shit ton of nukes, and unless you ambush the dude with the nuke basically there's no way to stop it because the cast time is super short (and again, the map is huge)

I don't really get the map. It has two bosses as well, so I feel like they were all "lets design a huge map but also do our best to make it go super quick"
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>>168191293
The lack of counter play when someone decides to nuke you sucks. Should channel a bit longer and channel breaks when taking damage
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last two picks troll and pick murky/gazlowe. why can't these memers stay in QM. what's worse is they didn't even prepick 'em
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>duo queue feeds intentionally
>lel we are le epic troles! u guys mad??
>lol good luck buddy report wont do shit we aint gettin banned
Okay, do they honestly think this? Secondly why is this the second time this has happened to me in 24 hours
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is this game stressful to play solo?
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>>168186305
I really hope if they do put Tosh in the game they find something else for him to do other than be another stealth assassin.

Y'know, the way they randomly gave Tychus a minigun?
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>>168193309
More please
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>>168193705
it is because the FUCKING LEVELING TAKES TOO FUCKING LONG
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Medivh is fun as hell. That is all.
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>>168194302
only to shill stimpacks
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>>168194001
but tychus did have a minigun...
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>>168194001
>Y'know, the way they randomly gave Tychus a minigun?
https://youtu.be/jBpSL5aDxjQ?list=PLo6dUe-n7Er_NlJPK0a2WMXhq4tnNNgph&t=690
see (11:41)
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>>168194001
Tychus uses a minigun in Wings of Liberty.
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>>168194302
Not really, level 5 is quick. Anything above it is mostly pointless and just extra for playing your favorite heroes
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>>168194495
Disco Medivh skin when?
His bubble would be a disco ball.
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I don't understand the whole "levelling heroes takes too long" What do you want? Levelling to 5 is very quick. 9 is for all skins and 10 for master skin. 10 is like what, 40-50 games? Purely optional that just unlocks availability for master skin. Then what do you get at 20--in a sense of who cares if you're 20? No one cares if you're level 10, 13, 16, 19 or 20. I'd hate to keep playing a hero that's maxed level, though--unless the end rewards were insane, like an awesome skin.
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>>168195562
that's 16 hours of one hero though, just for a master skin
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>>168195780
Entirely optional.
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>>168195562
Because they nerfed the xp you get for leveling if you are playing solo. You used to get more.
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>>168195780
And?
I have level 20 Abathur with ~500 games played. Maybe you don't deserve whatever level you want if you don't even play the game
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10k gold, who should i get

Zul'jin
Auriel
Chromie
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>>168199647
Auriel is the best of the three, but just get whoever you like to play the most.
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>>168189838
>>168190198
>losing to Cho'Gall
>ever
lmao'ing @ u
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>>168199647
Chromie and Zul'Jin are too situational to be worth 10k.
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>>168194001
I did imagine Tosh to be a specialist that uses stealth for CC and not damage. But Valeera is in already and she does both. He would also steal camps, which they gave to Nova. So my Tosh is dead, Blizz do with him whatever, I only care for Mengsk and Stukov now.
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>>168203130
I just want Chromie for the Fel Queen skin ;)
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>>168173418
Despite what >>168173582 says, 2CP maps like Volskaya Industries, Hanamiura, and Temple of Anubis are hated not because they are easy to stall, but because it is easy to bulldoze through them with a divecomp no matter how hard you try.

Shitter leagues hate them because they pick stupid shit and can't aim so one person playing a projectile hero can dunk on the entire team all game (because they also keep insisting on funneling through the chokepoints one by one instead of taking a flanking route or switching to a divecomp in competitive), and higher leagues hate it because it's effectively a coin/toss of who wins in a landslide stomp.


I personally don't hate 2CP maps as much as Dorado and Lijiang Tower though. Something about those two just tilt me to no tomorrow and I have an effective winrate of like 10% on those maps no matter how hard I try to not lose or not tilt.

I don't really see any of them turning into a HotS map though. Anything that's not a KotH map isn't symmetrical already, and even if they were changed to fit, I don't see how they'd be converted from "capture the points / escort the payload" to "push towers -> destroy the core". There's no UT style Onslaught mode so I don't know how you'd get any of that from Overwatch.
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>>168203323
If you're going to buy a skin, why spend gold on the hero? Doesn't that skin come with her in a bundle or am I thinking of something else?
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>168194302
There is no point besides sentimentality after leveling up to 9 and getting 750 gold.
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>>168190198
Tychus
>>168188658
Funny thing is, each game having a ragnaros adds an extra 5 least 10 max minutes to your average game timer
>>168194001
Tychus always have had minigun, and if stealth bothers you much; pick your combo around furion, morales, tassadar, raynor. Scouting drones just shit on these plebs faces.
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>>168207092
in all the ingame cinematics he uses a rifle as well as rendered cinematics its only on one mission he has a minigun.
Giving him the laser drill is a bit strange considering its Swans meaning we will never see him as a hero
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>>168207763
In a fucked up lore like starcraft which is a manifestation of Blizzard's femdom-giantess fetish over kerrigan; tychus cinematics and origins of Drakken drill bothers you?
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Tell me /hotsg/

When did you discover that you can avoid ring of frost completely by standing in the middle of the ring?
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>>168193705

Only when you're in shitter leagues, understand exactly what everyone around you is doing wrong, but still not good enough to carry yourself out of non-shitter leagues.
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>>168193705
Eh, to each their own. I think it's best played in a full premade.

>>168209856
Vs. AI prior to ever playing with or against other players.

>freeze Valla bot with coc
>ring directly on top of her
>does diddly squat
>realization that it works just like in wow
>ring

I'm retarded, etc. Sort of why I stuck to bots games until I was familiar with most of the stuff.
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what will be the new rotation?
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>>168209998
My cock in your mouth and boipucci
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>3 mins to find a game

Is the matchmaking just this "good" or is currently nobody playing?
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>playing quick meme on blackheart
>our team gets all 10 coins from the first chest spawn
>4 of us go to turn-in
>enemy team is all there
>everyone is just shuffling around but not committing
>wonder where our 5th person is
>check the map and see Artanis is still in bottom lane
>ping him
>10 seconds, no response
>"Artanis, come help"
>"I can't, we need someone to lane bot"
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>>168212253
lack of players & blizzard """matchmaking"""

basically both. also that orc in your pic looks fucking weird

>>168213185
what is it about shithead artanis players? i've noticed that people who play artanis are either really terrible with him or somewhere inbetween good & great.
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>>168213185
>4 of us go to turn-in
I don't get why pubs insist one distributing the coins amongst everyone.

And then lose them all one by one because they're too afraid to engage but hang around until the enemy gets better positioning.

Stick it all on one guy with high mobility, if you're going to get denied turn-in opportunity, at least don't feed them coins.
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>>168209998
Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: February 14 - 21, 2017

Malfurion
Valla
Diablo
Alarak
Sylvanas
Greymane
Rexxar (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Varian (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Uther (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Nova (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
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>>168214128
>Alarak unlocked for all
>Rexxar unlocked at 5
>Nova unlocked at 15
uh
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>>168212253
>3 mins
I've currently been sitting in queue for 5 minutes and counting
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>>168214128
>Varian
noice finally an hero in the free rotation when i'm considering buying it
heroes i want to buy are fucking never in the free rotation
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>>168208807
it doesnt bother me im just stating that Tychus uses a rifle predominantly in cinematics and the fact that he uses the drill means there will never be a Swan hero
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>Zarya gets branded
>Use Sanc to save him
>Runs away from Sanc
>Continues to feed and get caught out all game
>Goes grenade build on Zarya
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>>168217350
I've had 2 shit zaryas in a row now. Is zarya free this week or what?
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>>168217350
Lambed, rather. Anger is making me dumb.
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How about this, for $1 from the blizzard wallet the hero can instantly reduce his heroic ability cooldown by 90%
It would be nice influx of income for blizz and it would make the game more fun for players too
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>tfw the QM matchmaking roulette keeps giving you red when you bet on black
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>>168218163
>only 90%
Just make it instant reset with no limit on how many times you can do it
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>>168186090
>Starcraft 1 comes out in the mid 90s
>I'm only a child then
>I can see stealthed ghosts easily without issue when first introduced to them
>Fast forward 20 years
>There are grown ass man who not only cannot see stealth heroes but actively cry about it every single day making themselves look like a bitch
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>be in masters
>people still go afk out of spite because "omg I was ganked and no pings"
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>nova free week
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>mfw I'm still stuck on bronze league
I will never get out of this hellhole
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>>168218909
No thats stupid since it could be abused
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>>168219619
t. rylia
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>>168219628
That would just mean more money for blizzard and more fun for the players using it a lot
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>>168219539
>tfw nova main
>tfw will hunt all those shit novas on brown horses with my master skin
>tfw shitters be jelly of the best girl skill
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>win 3 games quest
>lose 5 in a row
Time to play vs AI?
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>>168219685
I think the Master Skin for Nova looks dumb like Tracer's so its e-peen potential is pretty low even though I like Nova.
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>>168219685
>he doesn't use the pleb mounts
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>>168219661
frenchman is silver tho
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>>168219934
I use the event only pleb mounts to show I'm FtP, but longer than complete beginners.

Except when I play Cho, that's where I break out the payskin and unicorn.
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>haunted mines
>bosses are about to spawn
>perfect opportunity take all merc camps on the map while they had 3 people still dead
>no fuck that, lets push with our boss xD
>team wipes
Just another day of retard watching as Abathur
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>>168219957
maybe on paper
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>win 3 games
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>>168220875
If you're playing Aba in not 5-stack in QM then honestly, you can't be surprised about a loss.
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>>168220924
I'm winning most of my games with him.

>>168220875
You need to get gud.
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>>168220990
Irrelevant.
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>>168220990
>implying you can win if your team is filled with retards who don't know how to play the game
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>>168220769
I love playing Chen with basic skin and battle beast, making the great plays and running off on that beast is so satisfying

I do the same for Zul'jin
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>>168221153
Every team in qm is filled with retards who don't know how to play the game. You need to carry and bully their shit players more than their "good" players bully your shit player.
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What build do you Abas play in QM?
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>>168221342
You don't choose who you bully, your team mates do
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>>168221543
I go shields if there's a competent player on the team who can get some kills with a little help.

Otherwise I go spikes for solo pushing.
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>>168221543
E build if your team needs healing and sustain, w build if it doesn't.

Locust and mine builds are pretty bad right now but you can take mine on 4.
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>decide i should just get valeera since i hve 200 games with zeratul
>get valeera
>30 games played
>26 wins

Omg this is the most fun ive had since i started playing the game
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how the fuck is varian still in this status?
taunt and banner of ironforge are completely busted
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>>168221894
>love playing stealthies
>feels great to help out in tfs as valeera
>but it feels horrible not blowing up out of position squishies by myself as nova

Why can't she be better, bros, why can't Nova get better teamfight tools?
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>>168219418
iktf

Some real pussies in this game. At diamond+ it's people with huge egos and if you say one bad thing about them, they throw a tantrum.
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>>168221649
>Competent player
>Kerrigan doesn't know her combo
>10% hp hammer sieged for no reason against a team with Zeratul and butcher
>Butcher doesn't use brand
>Nova tunnel visions
>Abathur has zero mines on the field


This is the most bronze thing Ive seen all year
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>started up battle.net for the first time in like two weeks
>see the Lucio spotlight

reminds me of all those people that said
>"we've already got brightwing!"
>"they can't make wall ride work!"
>"they wouldn't add him because speed buff OP!"
>"he isn't unique enough! BUT they'll totally add Mercy!"
>"no they'll add Ana!"
whenever I would suggest him

what now faggots?
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>>168222754
It's only February bruv, just say "all month".
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>>168223570
I hadn't seen play that bronze in January either
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>>168223243
I read
>>"no they'll add Anal"
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How do I get good with this SoB?
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>>168191706
>What is cc.
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>lost 10 games in a row
AI it is then. Guess I'll win a bunch tomorrow if I don't get the win 3 quest again
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>>168223929
that's the next event, please look forward to it
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>39% winrate when Valeera is on my team
>71% winrate when I play Valeera
>72% winrate against Valeera
Either this means Valeera is bad or I am a LITERAL GOD at using her
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>>168224195
I hate to give bland advice like this but Rexxar is literally the kind of character who you'll get good at just by playing him more and more. Once you learn how to micro your bear and learn the useful things it can do for you (hold a point, harass at range, or just scout), you'll get better.

Also take Unleash the Boars
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Do you get xp for killing an Abathur clone?
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>permanent archon
what the fuck were they thinking
did they just want him to continue being perma banned/picked?
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>>168226192
Yes
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>>168226480
wow li-ming is a girl THANK YOU
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when does lucio come out?
I main the gazzlow and i am scared of that nigga stealing my robo suit and selling it into srap metal so he can get more smack
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>permanent archon
Explain
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>>168226846
Auto-attacks refresh duration of Archon in level 20.
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>>168227148
Nothing that a Varian and Tychus can't fix.
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Rag wave is too strong in Braxis imo.
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>>168222754
that's a brawl.
Ppl usually don't know how to play their random heroes.
And no one care who wins
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why do people always keep attacking varian with lifesteal? basically he easily killed 3 people on our team because they kept autoattacking him even when they saw he gains health on every hit
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>>168227502
good point
you should just ignore a hero killing your assassins
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>>168226036
Oh yeah, I take it every time, though that's just because I read hotslogs.

Is the bird build viable? And how do I get good with animal husbandry?
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What do i when kaltheas sends the fireball at me and i don't have any meme abilites like recall or stasis?
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>>168228089
You die.
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Remove abathurs fucking ground cysts
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>>168228680
t. bronze monkey
just shoot a skill shot in the super obvious spot mines will be or go around them
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>>168222505
>be a zeratul player
>love the burst and the ult
>valeera has a stun
>at level 20 basically on 3 second cooldown
>decent burst

why can't zeratul have a stun thats not his ult. It is suffering, I have to play valeera now.
>>
Why do I keep seeing people do ))

What does it mean, and for how much longer is season 3 of 2016 going to last?
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>>168229098
t. crapathur main
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>>168229291
>stun
>not garrote
wow the life in bronze must be so peaceful
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What's the best way to draft Chromie?
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>>168229291
You do realize Zeratul is already one of the best heroes in the game, right?
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>>168219685
>nova main
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>>168224390
>1/3 Fit 3 dicks into Tyrandes ass
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Tassadar is so bullshit.
Legit he had the most in everything and carried them. we couldn't kill him at all. not a single death
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>>168229532
i mean depends on the target, but in QM duo queue with my friend who's li-ming stun means her orb hits and we have a party.

Obvioulsy garrote is amazing.
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>>168230523
Post team comp
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>>168227416
You don't need wave. Just Core up and fuck the zerg up with your standard abilities, pick Smash instead.

Only pick wave on stuff like Tomb or Cursed to counter objective pushes a bit, since both will make one lane a non-issue to defend.
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>Lucio is the next hero, will be released on Feb 13th

No its not, is coming tomorrow , in thuesday like always
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>>168229629
Always pick her after second wave of bans, that's really about it.

If they counter picked Tracer, then that sucks, but Tracer without Tass really isn't that big a deal.
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>>168231257
But it's Feb 13 where I live, dildoboy.
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>>168231745
me too jackass, is going to be released on feb 14, on thuesday
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>>168231257
>>168231895
>Thuesday
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>tfw nova vs nova qm
>the enemy nova takes the orbital strike
hah it's like if they wanted to lose, we steamrolled them in 15 minutes
i have it when noobs try to put their filthy hands on nova
>>
i dont understand matchmaking sometimes
last game i was playing with gms, now im playing with diamond 3
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>>168232889
Forced 50 put you with GMs to give them a loss
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So do you not take Transcendence on support Kha? I am not seeing it in builds.
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>>168234181
>be diamond1 get put with diamond 3s
>win
>get put with GMs against GMs
>win
>get put with GM's again
>win
huh?
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>>168236874
When forced 50 fails it'll eventually start placing them with bottom of the barrel bronzies
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>>168236865
Iron Fist is his support build now.
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>>168236954
>next match my entire team is gold except me (diamond 1)
>lose
>gold again
>lose
>drop
>gold
>lose

feels great m8
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i keep winning games i shouldnt
i don't deserve these points, and the first pick nova sure doesn't either
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>Enemy Zul'jin goes Guillotine and I'm playing Medivh.
>Force of Will every one of his ults.

Had to be annoying really.
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>>168237826
>picking a meme ulti

He asked for it
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>>168237863
Did he ask for the Ley Line Seal into Sulfuras Smash combo?

Playing Medivh is too fun.
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>>168238042
>Did he ask for the Ley Line Seal into Sulfuras Smash combo?

yes
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Which healslut is the healsluttiest?
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>>168229326
there's a ":" after your name when you write anything in chat. It's a smiley face
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>chain queue placements when brazils roam
>pay the price all season

I just want the forced 50 meme to end
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>friendly valeera has died 6 times before the 10 minute mark

why.png
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>>168239385
>Pick Valeera
>Suddenly no more Valeera throwing every game
>Win

It's not hard
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>>168240043
>pick valeera
>95% winrate in QM

feels great.

>inb4 QM
unranked and ranked are all the same shit in solo q
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>>168239385
>>168240043
>>168240381
>pick valeera because of this
>best hero in months
>get her master skin
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>>168240506
>Varian and Rag have released in the past couple of months.

Nice try.
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>>168239385
>friendly valeera has died 8 times in 8 minutes
>friendly valeera has disconnected
>friendly bot valeera died twice before the game ended around 15 minutes
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>>168240560
You are right, I wanted to say fun, Varian is meh even if he is god tier and Ragnaros is one of the most boring heroes in the game.
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We did it, it finally happened!
After 3 months of getting my neghole pozzed by random Craigslist daddies I finally got pozzed by a toxic load

I'm ready to celebrate by playing HOTS, add me for QM or Ranked

I'm an Auriel main healslut and I like playing with people who want to ERP on mic/chat.
Bottom only

EU/PC/shitpostking#21935
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>>168240782
>This post again

haha epic meme friend +1 upvotes to you
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>>168238986
I'd like to know this too, but my bet's on LiLi. Tyrande fits another side of the spectrum but she's more of a supportslut than strictly healslut.

Malfurion is undoubtedly the top healcuck though
>>
>>168221649
Could someone point me to the right builds?
>>
>Few days ago told an Afkathur with 30% winrate to never play the hero again
>Check his hotslogs
>He actually listened
Remember to do your part!
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>>168240676
I don't really see how Rag is any less fun than Thrall
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>>168240782
what the fuck is wrong with you m8. Aside from the obvious. Who just calls making something positive, "pozz" and writes it with 2 "z"s
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>>168240887
this. i got intentionally pozzed and i dont find this funny at all. please understand our struggle
>>
>don't flame at all
>get silenced for 30 days
>can't submit ticket

i'm done with blizzards and leagues automated shit, at least valve lets me play
>>
>>168242032
seriously? i thought reporting does nothing. why do i keep getting feeders i block on my team for weeks straight?
>>
>>168242136
seriously
i'll give them the first few times but i literally turned off chat for 70% of the time and i only questioned someone's talent choice (solo warrior artanis with marksman) in the game i got silenced
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>>168240782
so you can say someone dePOZZETED their semen in your mouth. Haha ;)

Well done m8, I hope you are happy
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>>168242331
Someone actually complimented me on my Reh'Gar build yesterday c:

I wouldn't expect people to go out of there way for anything but flaming/reasonable criticism
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>>168238986
Auriel
>>168239085
I feel stupid for not seeing that earlier
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>>168242649
i mean i told him it was awful, but that's it
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>>168242779
What did you want him to take? Reactive Parry is kind of trash.
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>>168242779
I said much worse things to my Chrome when she sabotaged the rooster race at the start. Tensions were high since I'm barely gonna finish all 25 in time as it is.

You just had a very unlucky draw I think. I have a feeling their support queue has very little dedicated staff, buffed by other departments in their downtime. I am talking out of my ass though
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can somebody buy me Heroes of the Storm on battlenet? ty in advance
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>>168240506
Why is she wearing a burqa?
I thought Metzen left Blizzard
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>>168243239
sure would've helped him stay alive
he was bottom damage too
>>168243261
We were unable to submit your ticket. Please check that all fields have been correctly filled out.

i get this every time i try to submit a ticket, on every device, on different connections
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>>168243419
I don't think you know what a burqa is, I invite you to visit any european country to learn more about muslim culture.
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>>168243239
If he was dying that quickly trust me it wouldn't of mattered. Now if he didn't take Blind that's something you can complain about.
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>>168243727
i don't really know if he died quickly, but he was complaining about dying
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>>168243373
Sent!
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>>168243373
hey i had an extra HotS buddy
here it is:
Click Here
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Y'all ready for 20 lbs. of slimy fish dick tomorrow?
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>>168245826
I am really, really not looking forward to this one.
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>>168245826
SURFS UP BIG KAHUNA!
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>>168245826
>>
>Abathur getting 4-5% buffs on his symbiote skills (QWE)
>Murky getting a gargantuan rework to be OP as fuck
feelings hurt. fuck blizzard. ;_;
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>>168209856
So even though I have 3k games played..

With KT's cyber-whatever skin? The new one? Whenever he casts flamestrike i run directly into the middle of it. Swear to god. There's no coloring or something there, so its an instinct
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>>168247228
>>168247483
mrgl the hatred of 10000 years (of unviability)
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>>168245826
I'm gonna buy him so I can be part of the cancer for once
>>
Only Raynor and Tracer not on level 5 I know it will take me just 5-7 quick matches to get them their but there is no chance I touch this shit champions ever!
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>>168245826
I'll be busy having dinner and sex with my girlfriend tomorrow, not playing heroes of the storm.
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>>168249387
sorry to hear that
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>>168249387
>not playing heroes of the storm with your girlfriend instead
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Who should I buy next? I am looking at maybe Lunara, Leoric, Rag, Zul'Jin, or Chromie.
I like heroes that can carry the retards I get matched with or are fun even if you lose.
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>>168249387
step it up senpai
http://www.youporn.com/watch/12535203/sex-heroes-of-the-storm/
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>>168249949
>sylvanas
your noob
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>>168250218
I played her back when the genji event was out for fast wins because people don't stop people from split pushing
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REMOVE FUCKIN FURY FROM VARIAN. HOLY FUCK
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>>168245826
what are they doing to the fishy friend?
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>>168250852
They're buffing him from Zagara tier to Gazlowe tier
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>>168250852
giving him everything he needs to destroy QM
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>>168250852
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20529510/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-february-6-2017-2-6-2017#Murky
>>
What's the best Abathur skin? Pyjama's?
>>
>>168251807
Default
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>>168251807
Every single pyjama ab I've played with was terrible and never left the base.
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>>168251965
He's in pyjamas, he want's to be comfy in base.
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>>168251889
Not master?
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>>168249949
No one said anything about who I should get yet.No idea how is good or shit right now.
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>>168252041
>want's
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>>168249949
Rag is the best to carry people right now
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>>168252123
Master looks worse for most heroes including abathur
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>>168252148
No one is fun when you lose for more than the first few games you buy them.

No hero can carry a game.
>>
>>168252148
>>Which heroes should I buy?
>Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.
>>
Is there mmr/rank decay in HL?
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>>168252507
I don't play ranked on here. I just want people opinions really on who they think is good. I just started playing again
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>>168252659
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I just buy whatever I feel like.

1. Starcraft heroes
2. Whatever cheaper hero I liked in free week. Heroes like ETC and Valla are solid regardless.

From the ones you named I'd get Ragnaros. I love globals.
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>playing HL
>one teammate in particular doesn't contribute anything
>gets into a shitfit and blames everyone else - save himself - for the loss, focuses on myself in particular because 'rexxar is a bad hero'
>next game he's on the enemy team
>map is towers of doom, I get first pick and they don't ban ragnaros
>I own ragnaros
>they do really well initally, he starts BMing
>we slowly but surely turn the game around
>he stops bming, starts trying to kill me in particular only
>mfw we turned the whole game around, ended it with all towers in posession, and it was all thanks to this motherfucker right here
>mfw MVP
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>>168253069
>I won a game with rag and lost the one I didn't play rag!
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>>168250572
Honestly, why/when you even grab this? I can see it MAYBE on BHB or Immortals--Maybe. Even then I'd generally prefer smash or taunt to be more useful with my team.
>>
At what time is Lucio releasing today?
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>>168252148
I would try the rotation, or buy the cheap one at 2000-3000 to have a bank for Quests.
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>>168253069
>Pick Rexxar lose.
>Pick Rag win.

How shocking.
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>>168253569
Never you pretty much go Taunt every time. Especially with the overpower buffs.
>>
>QM
>our team has Cho'Gall
>their's has Abathur

We lost that one, badly.
>>
Is it to much to ask for Muradins jump to make him unstoppable? Because I find it silly that i get rooted when I'm in the air
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>>168255630
It used to and then Blizzard realized that was fucking stupid.
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>>168241083
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5rufyc/looking_for_help_with_abathur/
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Rework/Buffs when?
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>>168206976
actually you get 1k gold at lvl 15 and 2k at lvl 20, so it's not pointless
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>>168256181
>Hey, I am a GM Abathur only player
Triggered
>This is the build I use (the only good build right now *all shield talents*
TRIGGERED
>Lvl 10: (Monstrosity)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>168256189
Never. They don't like to reward harder to use characters.
>>
>>168256181
>Full carapace build with Hivemind
Good lord.
>>
>>168256189
>he wants them to receive the misha treatment
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>>168256443
Salt evolved
>>
>Networked Carapace + Hivemind
mighty kek
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>>168256741
I am extra salty because the last 3 of 4 abathurs ive seen (3 were on my team) have used that build and were completely useless
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>>168256932
The shield build is legit' sometimes. Abathur's talents are the most dependant out of every hero. You shouldn't go shield build every single game. However as >>168256582
>>168256858 have pointed out, networked carapace and hivemind together is pretty silly. A lot of wasted value.

I'd personally go for http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/abathur#olNo if I'm going shield. 7 is open and I feel that everybody underestimates MULE an awful lot.
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>>168256443
Link won't work for me, is he really recommending Monstrosity? Is that why l've had so many shitty Abathurs lately? I mean Aba alone is bad enough but Monstrosity is a new level of shit.
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>>168256582
Looks good, but how much team fight potential do you lose?
>>
>>168255726
But that's unfair, at the very least could they change it so that you don't get rooted
>>
Only viable Aba builds right now.
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/abathur#onrR
or
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/abathur#gOlr

Note that whenever you have a good autoattacker to hat you take Ardenal Overload on 4 and also you can still take Soma Transference on 13 with shield build.

>>168256858
Hivemind is the 20 you go for currently.
Networked Carapace is great on Cursed Hollow but I wouldn't pick it over Needlespine on any other map except maybe in a no support clown fiesta one.
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>>168209856
>Ring of frost
>Ring
It took me way too long to figure that out
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So starting tomorrow I should avoid hero league, right?
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>>168257379
What do you mean exactly?

>>168257323
And no, this reddit thread will have next to no impact on the Abathurs.

>>168257624
Hivemind is good, but a lot is wasted with Networked Carapace. Also, Locust Nest is good. Good push and baits people well.
>>
>>168179337
>Q build
Why would you ever go with Q build now that Crippling Talons has to compete with Aspect of the Beast?

I'm legitimately asking, because it seems like Aspect of the Beast would be better in every single situation, making it always better to build around your W.
>>
>>168257784
Since you are a Redditor can't you post a better build so nobody listens to that subhuman?
>>
>>168252615
no, other than in GM other people can pass your points and make you "drop" rank
>>
>>168257883
You take Taking Flight, not Crippling Talons.

Q build has a better a better dmg output and you aren't reliant on your bear. When you can't safely stick Misha on their backline it's better to take Q build and hit their melees.

Also a 30% 2s slow on a 5s cd and better poke.
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>Still no qt Draenei hero

You'd think at a certain point Blizzard would realize they're just leaving money on the table.
>>
>>168258350
tfw they aren't releasing heros fast enough
2 heroes a month when
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>>168257883
You would be right Aspect of the Beast and Dire Beast are way better. It offers really good CC and the new lvl13 talent that adds damage to the stun is really good.

If anybody is seriously recommending a q build don't listen to them. The only one worth taking is the lvl 1 talent and even then that's not all the time.
>>
>>168258636
How come pros take Q build in pro matches then?
>>
>>168258350
This is blizzard we are talking about.

>doesn't shit out skins like mad
>didn't release heroes for Diablo
>doesn't sell card backs, alternate art for cards in hearthstone, takes forever to release ONE fucking alt hero and when they do it's free if you have twitch turbo
>>
>>168258960
>>doesn't shit out skins like mad

I think they're saving this for the whole loot box/loot tab they're almost certainly doing.
>>
>>168259129
I'd have been okay with a loot box thing if they had gone the way of DotA2 and had individual items instead of skins.
>>
>>168258879
Yesterday I saw them taking Aspect of the Beast an Dire Beast when I saw him getting played
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>>168259252
I think what they're going to end up doing is a bunch of new skin tints for every hero that you can only get out of boxes in addition to a chance of getting portraits, a pay skin, or a hero out of a box.
>>
The more I lok at Lucio Master skin the more I like it.
I thought it'd be retro sci-fi shit like Tracer and Zarya had but his is real streamlined.
>>
>>168259340
Didn't watch NA games. In EU Nande played him with Q talent on 7 and Wilfire bear on 13 in Braxis and full Q build in Tomb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YbW-IBCzKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp4YDSNlLPw
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>>168259793
The visor and his motorcross-esque jacket are fucking fantastic. His master is really great.
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What kit do you want to see from DOTA 2/LoL that isn't in HOTS?

Also, what Blizzard character would you want to see it attached to?

Pic related.
>>
>>168262269
A set of skins that form a band with accompanying albums.
>>
>>168262269
>What kit do you want to see from DOTA 2/LoL that isn't in HOTS?
Spell Steal.
>>
>>168260026
I would stop posting the second link, they lost that one.

Also it was Superstars on Braxxis I think. They were facing Zuna's shitty team.
>>
Why isn't Khazarim a multil class hero when he can support or dps?
>>
>>168263627
because although he can dps, he still doesnt stop being a healer, and vice versa

whereas fury varian can just dps and feed, and cannot tank any longer
>>
>>168262269
Rubick. Techies. Shaco. Jhin.

And a bunch of idea/skills that aren't in HotS, mostly.
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>>168262269
With the exception of Gazlowe they've done almost nothing with Goblin/Gnome tech heroes.
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>>168262269
boop
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>>168264210
>>
Any new skins coming out soon?
>>
>>168265053
no
>>
>>168265053
They usually show them off wit the in development video. The only one we know of is Love Goddess Tyrande.
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>>168265053
only the lucio skin and waifu godess tyrande
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>>168262269
>still no frost armor
>still no minion sacrifice to bully enemy team out of xp
>still no ult that can potentially last forever

I'd also like to see abilities that can force you team to go places they don't want to go
>>
>>168265806
>still no ult that can potentially last forever
theres at least 2 ultimates that can last forever, one of them is pretty old
>>
>>168265806
>still no ult that can potentially last forever
Hammer and Illidan have infinite duration ults.
>>
>>168266121
that makes it 4 together with sonya and tass
>>
>>168265053
This month probably is the worst we ever had.
Only 1 new skin but at least it is amazing. Love Godess Tyrande, pretty sure it hits with Lucio tomorrow.
>>
>>168265974
>>168266121
>>168266383
5 with march of the murlocs, starting tomorrow
>>
>>168265974
>>168266121
>>168266383
Hammers ult doesn't count because it's more like the same spell being cast multiple times.
Illidan at 20 gives him the cc reduction and attack speed boost passively, but the health boost is still only per cast.

I meant more along the lines of a spell that doesn't stop dealing damage until there's no more enemies, not an attack damage boost.
>>
>>168266993
>Hammers ult doesn't count because it's more like the same spell being cast multiple times.
Hammer ult refreshes itself every time it leaves the map.

Lich's Aghs ult from Dota 2, e.g. from the pic posted in >>168265806, does the same thing with every bounce.

What's the difference?
The post was talking about ults that last forever. BFG lasts forever.

>I meant more along the lines of a spell that doesn't stop dealing damage until there's no more enemies, not an attack damage boost.
So like Tychus' minigun. Usually you'd see duration increases for non-ultimate skills and traits, not ults. Ults in those cases are temporary damage/cc boosts to ongoing DPS, not the other way around.
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>>168266993
so something like chromie`s sands but dealing damage? otherwise it would just be some debuff to the enemies health regen if it is global or something, and no fucking way it would be some kind of permanent poison
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>>168268003
So
Chromie
Illidan
Tassadar
Hammer
Sonya

and then Murky tomorrow?

Six in total who have permanent ults.
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>>168266938
Wait, 20 March of Murloc will be infinite? Damn.
"Never-Ending Murlocs (R)
Redesigned: March of the Murlocs can now be channeled indefinitely"

Well it's a channelled effect at least unlike Hammer bullshit bullet.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20529510/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-february-6-2017-2-6-2017
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Reinhard could be a good new tool kit in HOTS. A Hero who can put a giant shield could be pretty interesting. But would it block melee hits, unlike Overwatch?
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>>168269437
Given how much work the HotS put in during a single year I don't expect to see him until 2020, assuming this game still managed to cling to life that long.
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>>168269039
Monstrosity
Nydus
Polybomb kinda sorta
Illusion master
Twin blades :v)
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>>168182893
I want to call Sonya a very pretty lady and watch her get all flustered
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>>168270280
>Monstrosity
Added body, might as well include Ultralisk at 20.

>Nydus
Kind of added body

>Polybomb
Only decent answer, I've seen this thing last for dozens of seconds in the right situations.

>Illusion master
Passive.

>Twin Blades
>taking an ult to be a bad illidan
I want to delete this ability.
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>>168270456
She will beat you up.
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>>168270610
>passive ultimates and "added bodies" don't count

???????????????????????????
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>>168270760
I want to get beaten up after calling Sonya cute.
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>>168270760
Yeah but only to save face after
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Varian or Sumaro?

For consideration: I want to have fun.
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>>168271856
>For consideration: I want to have fun.

Valeera
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>>168271856
Varian tank build.
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>>168271856
>Samuro
he has a lot of unfavorable matchups, especially since Ragnaros is still around. A lot QM games you'll have a lot of room to roam and gank. Other games you'll be completely evaporated the moment you show your face.

>Varian
100% viable in every scenario.
CC for days, versatile as hell and great damage.
Only issue is he's pretty weak until at least level 7 then picks up at 10.
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>>168272037
Is Overpower/Mortal Strike still really strong on Varian?
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>>168239092
I... I'm sorry, anon.

You're right where you belong.
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>>168272852
They just buffed it. It's the build right now. Overpower at 1 and the parry at 7.
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>>168239092
>248 games
>silver 3
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>>168272852
Yes. Both are fairly standard depending on the enemy team's healer.

Note that Juggernaut is also really strong.
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>>168272981
>>168273274
>smurf placements
>start low silver

Those were some brilliant games. I wish I threw all the games and got placed down there. Really curious what Bronze is like, lol
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>>168273191
Live by the sword is a bit garbo though. Victory Rush is very good healing. But, Live by the sword can be all right if you're getting Shield Wall and have reliable healing--but still, Victory Rush helps your team's sustain.
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>>168273703
It really isn't. It's the standard talent for him, here's the standard build:
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/94-varian#IeJeAAaeLeQeMeeBA

You don't want lane sustain, you want teamfight. Your role isn't to lane or kill minions.
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>>168273908
>nexus
>not fire
nope
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Is murky good in the PTR?
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>>168274008
I always take the first site when I look up "insert hero" talents. What's wrong with nexus?

http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/varian#kbD6
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Aw, man, I gave a guy "What the hell, Zul'jin?" and later in the game he said "I'm just bad", "I'm sorry."

I felt like such a raging asswipe.
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>>168274247
>Glory @ 20
>Not shout
smhtbhfam
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>>168274769
Why? I'm 90% sure he did something retarded and you asked why and he just admit he is a bad player, hots really need more people like him.
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>>168274769
Those people are usually the best to have on the team. Humble and willing to improve.
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>>168274775
It's situational. Was going to leave it unpicked but most of the time glory is better.
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>finding a QM match with a 5-man is longer than one with a 4-man
Why?

Can't they just match two 5-mans together and be done with it?
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WHY THE FUCK DO THESE ABATHURS NEVER TAKE EVOLUTION

THEY ALWAYS PICK MONSTROSITY, AND IT ALWAYS DOES ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL

STOP IT
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>>168275934
>bunch of silver surfer friends end up against a master stack memeing in qm
Always gets me.
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>>168274872
>>168274906
He admittedly did chase a Valeera into a fort.

Honestly, I had some fun games today. This was the game that finally broke my losing streak.

Yeah. Bronze against bronze.
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>>168277189
>everything about his pic

what the fugg
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What went right?
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>>168278697
Nothing. If the game didn't have Blizzard branding it would have been another Battleborn
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>>168278697
Talents instead of items
Team Exp
Two ultimate choices
Different and unique maps
Relevant heroes with fun banter
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>>168278697
I have tumultuous fantasies about the cast of HotS (and otehr Blizzard Universe characters) ccing Lunara and sexually abusing her in various fashions.
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>>168278697
Blizzard doesn't pussyfoot around hero design like Riot and are more focused on identity than what's "toxic" or not.
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>>168278697
Next to nothing, unfortunately.

basically>>168279192

>>168279661
Yeah, because that's working out so extraordinary well. Even the shittiest champion in Legolegens is nowhere near as useless as the average sub-Diamond/Master Medivh, Abathur or Vikings.
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>>168278697
It is actually casual.
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>>168182893

>implying valla isn't best

silly anon
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>>168279834
>Even the shittiest champion in Legolegens is nowhere near as useless as the average sub-Diamond/Master Medivh, Abathur or Vikings.
Because every champion in Legolags is the exact same fucking kit with a different ult.
Hard to fuck up champion design when you only have one fucking skill to fuck up.
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>>168279504

mhmm
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>>168280140
While it's probably fine in professional or coordinated play, having somebody play Abathur in Gold is, like, the equivalent of getting a literal Bronze player on your team.

Sure, plenty of people think Abathur, Murky, Vikings and Medivh are great, but seem to forget what it's like to see somebody on their team hover them in draft, at least at an average mmr.

>>168279504
>those eyes
Ehhh.
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>>168273703
Not anymore. Overpower makes it fucking insane now. Overpower, Warbringer, Live By the Sword, Taunt.

Get ready to do insane damage, because Blizzard thought Tank Varian needed a buff.
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>>168281080
I prefer slutty inquisitive gaze, myself.
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>>168281080
Medivh isn't that hard. Just play him like an aggressive support.
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>>168279334
>>168279661
Correct and non meme answers
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>>168278697
Talents including multiple ults, different maps, global xp, the way towers and forts work, the way stealth works (sorry Valeera shitters it's true), the attention to detail for heroes and maps.
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>>168282285
Yeah, the only reason why everyone thinks Medivh sucks is because people spend 90% of the game in raven form.
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>>168282556
I think it's more because they can't complete Master's Touch.
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>the draft is already a clownfiesta
>fuck it
>time to gazlord it up
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>>168283192
You had Varian. How did you think it was a bad draft?
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>>168283407
>nova
>zagara
>murky

really makes me think
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>>168283565
>Varian.
>The other team had Uther, Aba, Zul'jin.

I see no problem.
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>Don't check /hotsg/ in awhile
>Old thread dead
>Look for the new one
>Already on page 10
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>>168286625
Death when?
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>>168286625
>dead game
>dead thread

Makes sense, desu. Hopefully we'll get something big eventually. Probably not.

gifting when this token thing is neat
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>>168286625
Man, wait until Lucio tomorrow. We'll bitch about him then.
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>>168287576
People won't realize how broken he is till they see pros using his speed boost how it's supposed to be used.

People will be bitching about new Murky.
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Who Zul'Jin here?
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Tracer might be back in action now that Murky is resurfacing

Alarak too maybe, go Alarak with Pure Malice when you have Murky
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>>168288965
Why Tracer?
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>>168288965
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>>168289186
Tracer has always been a good counter to Murky and TLV.
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>>168289186
Tracer farm Murkys and can stack the Untouchable quest really easily against him
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>>168289327
>Tracer has always been a good counter to old Murky and TLV.
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>>168289327
>>168289327
Tracer was only decent because of how Pufferfish used to work, but they changed that. In fact new Murky probably fucks Tracer.

>>168289406
That's like saying Greymane is a good counter to Murky. As in it's retarded.
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>>168289439
>That's like saying Greymane is a good counter to Murky. As in it's retarded.
That's not even remotely the same, it would be if they played similar. Greymane has slow attack speed in comparison and no mobility.

The pufferfish isn't why Tracer is good against Murky.
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>>168289584
Yes it is. Because she attack so fast she just got rid of the pufferfish. Now she can't do that. It's why Tychus was so good at laning against him along with Zarya.

I brought up Greymane because of Wizened Duelist which is what I'm assuming your talking about with that stupid Untouchable shit.
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>>168279834
>Next to nothing, unfortunately.

Bullshit.

HOTS has a ton of problems that are unique to itself, the most of which is the fact that no one fucking plays it, but going from HOTS to LoL is like fucking with a time machine. I can't be fucking with the antiquated garbage design that became standard in that game just because "it's the way things are."

I don't even play HOTS as much as I play Battlerite, but in comparison to DOTA and LoL, HOTS is nowhere near as hamstrung by horrendous core design issues as the others.
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>>168289824
Does Battlerite have anyone playing it? I bought it like the first week it was released and have only played a couple of matches and was thinking about getting back into it but figured at this point I should wait for it to go f2p so I'm not shitting up people's games.
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>>168289986
Not really, but it's not that hard to find a match when the majority of the game is 2v2.

Just wait for it to go f2p or go on sale for a really good deal.
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>>168286625
Diablo general is kill apparently. HotS general on life support.

Really should make a discord to be honest. I mean I'll do it if people want it.
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>>168290781
No, Discords are fucking cancer.
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Nova talent level 7
What choose?
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>>168292198
Why?
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>>168292249
One in the chamber if you can attack a target for about 3 seconds without dying outright

Armor piercing if you can't

Snipe master if you think you're the best ever/feel like losing
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>>168292707
If you feel like losing you are already picking Nova.
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>>168292278
reddit uses them
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>>168279192
>If the game didn't have a big name studio behind it, it would've been dead

Great insight, thanks
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>>168292838
I mean, he's not wrong. The gameplay itself wouldn't have drawn many people in.
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>>168278697
nova, li ming, valeera, jaina, chromie, tracer, li li.
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If Li Ming got Ess of Johan back, but it got moved to level 20, would that be reasonable? She's so worthless right now compared to the other mages, she makes even Chromie look good.
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>>168290781
Discord takes away anonymity, which a lot of people here don't care for. You can do it, but you'll end up getting a good portion of the obnoxious posters here that stir up shit & attention whore.
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>>168293118
>The gameplay itself wouldn't have drawn many people in.
I object to that, I've always wanted an AoS game where the matches don't last 30+ minutes. In fact, if the game was an original IP, I'd enjoy it even more. Having to unlock heroes would've been a big deterrent, though.
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>>168293760
>Can't just throw spells out without aiming and get team wipes.
>This makes her worthless.
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>>168293760
Nope.

>>168293876
It honestly feels like 90% of the people who play Hots played another Blizzard game immediately prior and just came over to try it because promo, launch, or something.

Actually, nobody would've even heard about it. It'd have fewer players than NA WoW arena.
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>>168292749
Oh yeah.

Change of plans novanon, pick snipe master, you're the snipe master
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>>168293990
Well, such is the fate of any MOBA that isn't LoL or DotA. Regrettably.
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>>168294247
>tfw awesomenauts was a fun MOBA that died because of too little too late changes
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>>168262269
A non-shit hook character
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>Alarak, Nova, Greymane and Medivh are on the free rotation
This will be a fun week
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>>168297548
no medivh actually but he should just be refunded and made permanently free anyway.

nova vs sylvanas is interesting. they should load up a week of no-wave clear with those two and see if people can figure out what to do about that super op trait ruining every game.
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>>168297954
what did he mean by this
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Why though?
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>join a 10 man /vg/ custom
>some idiot using cheats to buff damage, movespeed and shit.

fucking idiots all of you.
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>>168300819
wat
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>>168300819
Bloodlust isn't cheating, anon
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>valeera strong
>nova free week
>decide to play malf to scouting drone all the stealthies for easy wins
>all the valeeras and novas are in my teams
>enemy has no stealth heroes
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What do we have to do to make Murky better, /vg/?
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>>168297548
>Medivh

God. I wish he'd just get removed.
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>>168283192

C L O W N F I E S T A X D
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>>168301045
Absolutely nothing but to wait
>>
>tfw dehaka

feels good, glad he was the first hero I bought
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>>168294048
But I do good as nova
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>>168301686
Because you play against bronzies.
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>>168302113
I dunno, all I play is solo qm
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">What's new?
Lucio is the next hero, will be released on Feb 13th"

You lied to me. I trusted you.
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>>168283192
>Stimpack active

S H I L L
>>
Holy crap, varian is a fucking beast, he can chase, he can tank and he can kill, i could just jump into 1v2 or even 1v3 and just kill everyone and still walk away, life steal with massive damage and a ton of hp AND A FUCKING TAUNT? jesus fuck how is this hero even legal
time to start saving up gold
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>>168303763
As long as it's not pay2win shit why not? He's keeping the game alive.
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>>168250852
>>168245826
i can't wait
i sometimes play murky and really enjoy it, but i always hated his low damage since it was hard to 1v1 assassins with him
i hope they will also improve the call ult damage to buildings, since it takes me a long time to solo a fort currently (unlike that whore sylv, which is unfair as fuck)
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>>168251071
>Resurrect time while Murky's Egg is active increased from 5 to 8 seconds
is this a bad joke? i thought they were supposed to make murky better, he is weak enough as is
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>>168251071
>New Talent: Egg Hunt (Active)

Activate to place a fake Egg. If the fake Egg dies, it casts Slime. Maximum 3 fake Eggs. 6 second cooldown
oh god this is going to be so annoying
it's hard enough to find his eggs already but with this everyone will just ignore his eggs all together
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Considering next patch, who do I get?
I'm a pretty casual player
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>>168304515
Murky
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>>168289824
What is the bad design in dota and lol?
>>
>>168304515

Chromie

Punish scrubs with predictable dodges and shit positioning.
>>
fuck me Tassadar is so much fun to play, especially with the force wall upgrade at 20
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>>168304432
abathur has the lowest skill ceiling, it's impossible to die with him
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>>168304515
murky to live and breathe the cancer or chromie to unsuccessfully try and get rid of it
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>>168304343
>he didn't read all the mad buffs he is getting
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>>168220990
>Not a problem for me
kys
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>>168304741
>it's cancer cuz he's gettin an update

Ebin
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>>168227637
>ignore something
worst designs
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Lucio when?
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>>168303763
The exp and gold gained without it feels extremely underwhelming
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>>168304468
>Fish Eye
Massive over obstacles vision that reveals
My one hope was that I could just hunt his egg down as stealthy, kill that shut when he respawns and destroy it after.

But nope, he counters Nova now. As if she wasn't bad enough already.

Guess I'll just have to play shieldbreaker prot varian every game now.
>>
What is better value?
>Buy stimpacks
>Buy 10+k heroes
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>>168295581
the leveling system killed awesomenauts for me. was ranked in one of their fictional metal high tiers and fifth or so prestiege when that hit and it just killed it for me.
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>>168305902
Yeah levelling sucks cock too, both the account levelling and the ingame snowball levelling (although they've apparently fixed the latter to be less snowbally?)
I think Awesomenauts' biggest issue was the leagues and matchmaking which they remedied a few months back but too little too late.
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>>168305513
Price of being lol-hots cuck.
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>>168305781
Skins
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>>168305781

10k heroes you want > stimpacks > 10k heroes you don't want
>>
Lunara and KT AI are arguably better than most real players.
>>
What time do the patches usually roll out?
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>>168304515
chromie. at least wait for the patch to see how murky shakes out if you want him. doesn't seem all that good to me. or at least takes some hyper rotational style i didn't quite get trying him out. wouldn't call him near as casual anymore, at least not once the new puffer is picked up on.

>>168305781
neither. no reason to buy anything between dailys, brawls, leveling characters to 5, and free rotations. even if you want to be the flex master there's only so much you can handle and so much with significant overlap or minor meta significance.

if you are new and aren't satisfied by the free rotation just buy some socks. in 3 months when you forget this game you'll still have those.

>>168307713
tuesday maintenance times for US but they have nothing up now.
looks like tomorrow for eu
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/831447481384833024
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>>168307614

Alarak AI is objectively a better comboer than every player
>>
Marin Noggenfogger as the Goblin Alchemist when?
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>>168305774
>be nova
>suicide run an egg behind a fort
>it was merely a decoy
>get covered in slime and die
erri tiem ;_;
>>
What is the best varian build for face rolling? I just like to jump and and start smash shit without running away
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>>168305781
>paying money for heroes
Except for the Nexus Bundles which come with a stim prepacked, none are worth it.
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>Spend years in bronze league
>Serious the fuck up for season 3
>Placed in Platinum 1

First Match in plat 1 : Malfurion picks mules against kerrigan and varian
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>tfw enemy team is 5 stack anf they picked double mage double warrior on purpose

Easiest of games. Had a laugh when I got MVP for 20% siege damage and not 50% team kills.
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>>168308405
>be murky
>constantly place fake eggs around when pushing or fighting
>wait until the enemy team picks up on them all being fake and starts ignoring them
>drop your real egg among the fake ones
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>>168308405
>suiciding for a 15 sec cd skill

Lmfao noob kappa go learn play stralth first, gb2Lol scrub hahahahaha

>>168308501
If you have one ally going with you, taunt. Parry talent at level 1 and 7, charge talent at 4 and 13, pick Dalaran at 16 and go stunfuck someone with your bro.

Colossus deals more damage, bit has less staying power so you can't keep fucking someones face after you blow your load.
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>>168310264
>Stitches

what were they fucking thinking
>>
>Li Ming is crazy popular
>"Let's make a new skin for her!"
>Sylvanas is also crazy popular
>"Let's make a new skin for Tyrande!"
I'm not sure I understand the thought process here.
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>>168309550
Better choice really. Anything below masters or even high grandmasters arguably can't use cleanse properly.
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>tfw enemy team shitstomps my team 24/7 while I afk farm but never contest or farm their own coins
>tfw I blow up chests in 2 seconds and run off before the enemy can leave the lane
>tfw we win despite being 15-17
>tfw posting wrong screenshot like a retard
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>>168311715
>thinking kill counts matter
>bragging about winning with a 2 level lead
At least you're not playing an assassin, maybe there's still hope for you yet.
>>
>>168311014
>ranger cutie elf
>maggot womb banshee for the necrophiles
>cocksock cutie pie sugar fairy
Plenty of waifu skins there, bruh.
Just wish she had a mail bikini as undead, I need more titilation to get off, midriff and dead skin aren't enough.
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>>168312103
Still not as many as WRATH OF DA HEAVANZ.
>>
update when?
>>
>>168312421
two days after yesterday
>>
How do I get good with the high lord?
>>
>>168312880
stick 1 in your pooper
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>>168312183
quality over quantity

tho jaina my bae still has best redhead winter waifu skin
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mind = blown
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how to valeera?
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>>168314426
Are you an idiot?
D
W
D
W
D
W
D
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>Wake up
>No Valeera buff
>No buff Murky
>No le balanced brazilian of movement speed
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Lucio seems fun but that "3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3" seems annoying af
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>>168317624
>san san san san san san
What did he mean by this?
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WHEN'S PATCH
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So do people even take Monk to heal anymore or do just they take him to punch people in the teeth and SSS Diablo/Varian to death?
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why is greymane so fun......
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>>168280129
that's were you're wrong, bucko
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How to play the current Rexxar? Control-wise. I'm fine for talents.
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>>168304616
I can't speak to DOTA 2, but:

>Last hitting is a garbage pointless mechanic without the ability to deny
>Items are infinitely worse than talents and lead to extremely lackluster hero kits
>Flash
>Runes
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>tfw either player into a team filled with retards and we get steam rolled
>or placed against a team of retards and we steam roll them
it's boring in both cases... very rarely do i get good matches anymore, the match maker is a joke
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>>168319796
>Items are infinitely worse than talents and lead to extremely lackluster hero kits
And they do horrible things to the balance of the game
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>>168318253
I mean the repeated green "3" you get when you have the healing aura enabled
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>>168278697
i think the only reason hots isnt more popular is because you cant run it on a shitbox from 2005 like lol or dota 2. Blizzard made their game accessable in some ways but it sure is pretty high up their on the tech side of requiring a mid-high end modern pc to run
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>>168287187
i like malthael but we need Kel Thuzad first. I think the game could use more mage assassins and specialists
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>>168320712
There's another reason: lol and dota 2 already have the biggest playerbase. They are therefore the most powerful moba licences. They are therefore impossible to beat.
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>>168319796
>>168319985
>By far the most interesting item in any popular assfaggot is the staff that upgrades your ultimate in DotA
>Doturd eaters still think items are better than talents
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>>168320712
I'm running it on a gutted laptop with 1080p external monitor. It has like 8 gigs of ram, shitty i3 pc with 1.8 clockspeed and an Nvidia quadro 9 something 2 gig card. It runs on a toaster while looking better than dota on the same pc.
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>>168320885
This. People look at it and think "It's not LoL or DOTA, so who gives a shit?"
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>>168319773
same as before

spam d to micro misha, misha gets speed boost if you order it to attack or to come back to you so abuse that. Make bear bodyblock after hitting with q and stunning+passthrough with W.

well at least that's what I do.
I have like 300 games and rexxar is only level 7, but I have most kills on him, even though I have a level 11 70 games played 67% winrate zeratul.
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>>168320712
Also esports is boring to watch imo, which keeps it from getting hype.

Sustain meta is shit, you need more wombo combo burst meta where you can actually get picks and leet meme personalities.

Seriously, it's just boring to watch a 5 man deathball rotate and take camps with machine precision after having the slightest of leads with no way to fuck up or no comebacks.

My pleb solution would be more burst.
Actually, remove tanks and supports from game.
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>>168321179
So Blizzard is experiencing what they've inflicted on countless MMO devs for years?
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>>168321650
Yes.
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>>168308150
I actually complimented an alarak once before on never missing combies.
Realized he dropped out a few mins ago.
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Sylv or chromie? Which one should i get?
>tfw dead rotting pussy vs midget pussy
why are all hot heroes such boring shit
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>>168322082
Uh those heroes are both completely different. Do you enjoy AD or mages?
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>wake up
>no patch yet
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>>168322236
I enjoy both skill shots with chromie and wiping millions of enemies in a nanosecond with sylv, but i can only afford one
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>>168322330
buy chogall :=)
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>>168322447
i have him for free you plebiscite
and i never play him because he is boring as fuck hero
>>
anyone wanna friend me and grind 15 games in an hour
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>>168322537
By "he's boring", you mean that he doesn't have a pussy? At least he's not dead or midget
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>>168322539
are you eu or na
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>>168322649
eu also im only level 10 so i'm bad
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>>168322537
>plebiscite
>wants to buy sylvanas

.
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>>168290781
There's already a discord.
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>>168323225
Then give us the name
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>>168323225
Link then?
>>
anyone watching open cup semis?
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>>168323225
/hotsg/ doesn't need or want a cancer discord.

>>168323383
>>168323412
Fuck off plebs, you're not welcome here.
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>>168323225
>>168290781
Fuck off circlejerker.

>>168323412
>>168323383
Fuck off bitches.
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>>168323705
>>168323707
That's /vg/ for you

>>168323383
>>168323412
Maybe you really don't need a discord if it's to be with those guys
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>>168176738
would pay legendary skin price for
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>>168325860
You don't even need to make it a legendary, besides he already has a legendary.
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>>168195287
>plays his hearthstone party music constantly

yes please
>>
I just got to play Rexxar since his talent rework. Is anyone else not a huge fan on how you control Misha?

Before you had your trait button to swtich between passive and aggressive and then 1 to go to certain spots or targets. Now your trait has to control everything and you have to click like a madman. Click yourself for follow mode, clicking on the map sets her to passive and she won't attack minions or anything, you've got to click right on enemies for her to attack or a-move in follow mode. And you have to set follow manually or else she doesn't get your mounted movement speed.

Is there a better way to do it? I just think it feels needlessly complex when Rexxar's positioning has to be so precise in the first place. You're playing a ranged character that wants to be just close enough to throw birds but otherwise far away from the fight and a melee tank that needs to block skillshots and bodyblock at the same time.
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>>168326592
Press alt+D to make her follow you. I think the controls now are a lot more preferable compared to before. And you couldn't issue any commands at all for her outside your range.
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>HotS is beginning an update
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>>168327253
No it isn't you piece of shit fuck you
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>the lunar bundle is gone

I don't know why I didn't expect that. Kinda wanted that cloud mount.
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>>168327279
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Can I do the nexus challenge on the NA servers and get the mount for yurop?
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>>168321376
Tank meta seems to be slightly dying off as people realize the strength of Chromie, Hammer, late-game Zeebo at the very least.
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>>168327279
european piece of shit
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>>168327661
Murky is going to break the meta open completely, he absolutely shits all over heavy frontlines.
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>>168327650
No. Amerifat stuff stays in clapistan servers.
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>>168327441
>>168327764
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>>168327795
He's going to shit all over mages. What you talking about? They aren't going to be to 1v1 new Murky.
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20554028/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-february-14-2017-2-14-2017
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>They nerfed Valeera's stun duration by .25 seconds.

Ha.
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>>168326039
i never said make it legendary

just i'd pay that price
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>>168327905
>Those Tassadar changes

Jeez.
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>>168327905
>Valeera's Cheap Shot stun duration has been reduced from 1.5 seconds to 1.25 seconds
It's a tiny step, but I fear they won't do the other tiny step they need to do. At least it's something.
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>>168327881
whatever retard stay in denial
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>>168327905
>New Murky already nerfed.

Good, now nerf him again.
>>
>>168327905
>Time to Krill nerfed
And rightly so, that shit is bonkers strong.
>Toxic Buildup went through without changes
Just fuck my shit up famalam tachi, shiieet.
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>>168328064
thank god i got burned out on playing valeera nonstop before they ruined her
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>>168327905
Why would they make Thrall immune to interrupts
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>>168328179
They also nerfed Slime Time. That no longer scaling is kind of big.
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>>168327816
Eh? But promotional shit that I've gotten on EU carried over to NA Hots
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>>168327905
I cant wait to take down all of the forts myself with the infinite call of the murlocks
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>>168328056
>Substantial Buff to Storm
>Fair Nerfs to Archon
>Buff to Attack Range and Attack talent build
>Nerf to Khala's Light (The speed buff was secretly better this whole time)
>Didn't touch any of his Oracle talents

I can dig it

The Wall changes feel like a wash
>>
>>168327905
>Tassadar has 20% higher AA range by default
Noice
>Tassadar deals 150% extra damage after getting his first AA stack
N
O
I
C
E

>Archon nerfed, no longer behaves like Sonya's Rage, Wall buffed
Good to equalize pick rates, don't think either is too extreme.

>Khala's Light Armor reduced by 40%
Talent is kill, way to fuck up. Should have reduced the time by one second instead.

>Psionic Echo timing is less tight
QoL change, nice that they did buff his W by letting it ramp up faster.
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>>168328493
>Wall buffed
Reduced duration = nerf
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>>168319796
Thanks anon.
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>>168328202
>t. silvercuck

Valeera isn't ruined you massive retard, also only cucks and bronze shitters use the garrote combo over the stun one.
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>>168328559
CD reduction is bigger though. For me, it hardly ever happened that the wall was even useful in the last second of its lifetime, since I use it as disengage/splitting/chasing tool, and that second they can't move is enough for my burst assassin friends to do their job.
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Why everyone hates Valeera's master skin? I know the standard one looks better but I've seen a lot of fags screaming all over the place and shitting on the red version of the master skin, while literally loving the red and blue one.

What's the idea behind those 3 variations?
>>
What's the absolute fastest way to blow through 15 games? Just doing vs AI?
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>>168328649
What an idiot
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>>168328842
VS beginner AI with a Sylvanas.
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>>168327905
>Rexxar's Torch lasts 20 seconds and has a 25 second cooldown, giving him effectively 80% reveal uptime
Pretty good.

>Aspect of the Hawk has infinite duration as long as YOU keep attacking
>it's also faster now
>and Misha helps even more at keeping it up
Yesh, it was already pretty good, these buffs seem pretty heavy.
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>>168328796
>Why everyone hates Valeera's master skin?
Uh, what? It's pretty good.
>>
>>168328796
For female heroes, the master skin is supposed to show MORE skin, not less (look at liming for example, her master skin is taking her pants of and showing her panties)
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>>168328796
>>168329272
Personally I bought the master skin and is trash to be honest. The normal version is much better but the problem is that the red colour of both versions is the pleb one while the red and green are better.
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>>168329272
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juwHwhrT4jw
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>>168329272
>the master skin is supposed to show MORE skin

This is not even remotely true.
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>>168329272
>>168329431
the virgin and the pleb
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>>168328056
>5 second walls

Trumpadar skin when?
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>>168329272
>>168329431
baka
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>cyber ram and amani war bear on the shop
>butcherlisk is on the sale as well
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>>168328204
Metzen vault
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>>168329272
>Female Master Skin showing less skin
>Jaina (midriff even covered up)
>Johanna (helmet)
>Lunara (bigger bra)
>Nova (helmet)
>Hammer (face guard)
>Sonya (helmet)
>Sylvanas (midriff covered up, but shows more legs, but also hides face - 2less/1more)
>Valeera (burka style)
>Valla (helmet again)

>Female Master Skin has the same ratio
>Auriel
>Brightwing
>Chromie
>Kerrigan
>Li-Li
>Morales
>Tracer
>Tyrande
>Zagara
>Zarya

>Female Master Skin shows more
>Li-Ming

Nope, looks like Ming is just a giant slut and show off. My dick doesn't mind, but it also doesn't regress my brain into horny teenager age again you imbecile.
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>>168329554
>>168329707
Enlighten us with your knowledge and tell us how is one of the shittiest master skins in the game superior.

C'mon I expect lore or at least a true reason.
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>>168328796
The 3rd color classic is just too good to pass.
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>>168329507
yes it is. why do you think all of the female heroes are pretty grills in skimpy clothes? because they sell
that is why the more expensive the skin the more naked it makes her
in an ideal world where blizz wouldn't get judged, they would also sell naked skins for 30E and they would sell like hotcakes
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>Kill a Gazlowe underneath his own fort as Murky.

Really he overextended, he should have realized as soon a I saw the fort it was mine.
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>>168330001
Is a real armor instead of a meme slut armor

Is t2

MC weapons

I don't expect a pleb virgin like you to understand.
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>>168329272
The mind of a virgin teenager lamo.
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>>168330265
>>168330269

>M-MUH REALISTIC ARMOR!
>Being this virgin weeb

The jokes writes itself.
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>>168330479
>MUH SKIN

Indeed they do my viring friend.
>>
>First game of the new patch
>It's a team dives 1v4 over and over and over again episode
I already want to uninstall again
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>>168330479
>I DEMAND the slut to undress if I pay her
>lol YOU are the virgin weeb XD
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>>168330001
Cause it makes kids like you mad
>>
Wow I thought we were done with these retards after the first week of Valeera.
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>Butcher's Brand (W)
>Casting animation has been sped up by roughly 33%. This should reduce instances of canceling this ability by rapidly issuing other commands.
Interesting.
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>>168331075
Not really a buff, just a fix to prevent the ability from not triggering correctly.
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>>168331075
He's still Butcher.
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>no surrender button in QM still
>>
>>168330001
She has no nipples
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>>168331793
The doctor removed them when he was giving her those awful breast implants.
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>>168330781
You couldn't seriously think that Valeera wasn't going to become the next Nova in terms of popularity right?
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>>168332272
>valeera alreayd won 3 pro games
Valeera is actually good unline Nova.
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>Trying out Nova
>I pick Remote Delivery at level 4
>mfw people keep falling for my decoy
Is Remote Delivery OP? Or are people just that stupid
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>>168330112
this is fucking embarrassing to read
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>>168332324
>Valeera picked 3 times
>By shit tier American teams
woah rly makes me think
>>
>>168332324
>>168332410
Valeera is just "Zeratul when you can't get Zeratul right now", which isn't the worst niche in the world. We'll see if the buffs change anything.
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>>168332532
Valeera has little in common with Zeratul other than being classified as a melee assassin
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>Murky meta

He's back baby
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>>168333157
>Implying he ever went anywhere
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>>168333289
Yeah he is such a contested hero in drafts lmao
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Is Rexxar currently broken?
Just played him for the first time and did decently well, but Misha constantly ignored my commands, ran past enemies instead of attacking, or just stood there doing nothing despite multiple clicks.

Also Rexxar is hilariously useless if a Valeera can just stunlock-instakill me.
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>>168333594
She can't without cb
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Lucio live on America, lads.
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>playing against a team with varian, diablo, uther
>we got malf
>he picks broccoli and fucking root damage
>tell him that not picking cleanse against this lineup is literally a game throwing decision
>"check winrates, you are clueless"

release me from this hell
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>>168333594
>Also Rexxar is hilariously useless if a Valeera can just stunlock-instakill me.
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>>168333903
>Lazy modeling makes him look like he's wearing a bodysuit with attachments
>changes the immensely satisfying "CLANG"'s of his autohits into something barely hearable
shit skin lads
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>>168333441
There is a reason for that, he is hard to play.
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>>168334119
>>changes the immensely satisfying "CLANG"'s of his autohits into something barely hearable
I just noticed this also. I thought it was a bug with his W because his auto-attacks are barely audible like the original. That blows.
>>
>>168334119
>tfw still gonna buy for butcher smurf as soon as gifting is a thing

>>168333903
You're right, but Cleanse is more difficult to use. What was the mmr?

>>168333441
He isn't easy to pilot.
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>>168333903
Roots damage on 7 is never justifiable

Treant can be good to block skill shots and does decent damage.
>>
I need a new specialist. Zagara is fun, but I want something different. Is Xul still good? Only ever played him free. I've been away from the game for about a year.
>>
>>168334702
He's good but I think he's pretty boring to play. And his talents are super boring too so there's nothing to look forward to.
>>
Should I get Murky now that he's getting an overhaul?
>>
I'm gonna buy Lucio.
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>>168334193
>>168334304
>pull them and use discord strike

I don't understand why people pretend he is hard.
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>>168334942
>using ribbit Lucio
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>>168334957
>Telekinesis requires good position and fast movement if you want to pull them in
>use discord strike has a start up
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>>168334957
Because he is.

Just like Li-Ming
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>177k Lucio heals in a 23 minute game
>because Samuro clones and Nova holo-clones count
Haha, that felt outrageous.
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>>168334304
it was in low masters
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>>168334835
Maybe Azmodan?
>>
>>168335327
>Pointless numbers that dont matter
woah....
>>
>>168335362
I didn't say it was significantly impactful. Only that I enjoyed the illusion that it created.
>>
>>168335330
Oh, funny. I was hoping things would have gotten better.

That's the highest I managed before giving up on Ranked and the game in general.

Wish I spent more time derping around in unranked instead of burning myself out.
>>
>Played 4 games
>Have seen 7 Varians
What the hell is going on?
>>
>>168335956
free week
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>>168335356
Maybe not as good as Xul but he's got more interesting talents. And he can bully people really hard between the laser and his giant HP pool.
>>
So with the new Murky, why should I ever take anything other than Fishy Deal? Like you're going to have constant 30 stacks of bribe to use.
>>
>>168337243
If your on certain maps it'll get less value. I mean your probably going to take it 95% of the time.
>>
>>168337243
Fish Eye if they have stealth shits, because they'll hunt for your egg and you can counter that shit just by parking a fat one next to your fort.

Egg Hunt is fucking hilarious against mainly melee comps, try it out. Once they wisen up, get super cocky with your egg placements
>>
hello friends, I come from WoW and want to do this event that rewards me with a mount for playing 15 games with bnet friends, but I have no friends that play this
am I gonna have trouble getting people to play with me? do veterans usually mind playing with newbies?
>>
>>168337780
You can probably find people in chat that will play with you. Trust me other people probably want to get it done just as fast as you do.
>>
>>168337991
yeah all right I assumed, and I found out you can do them on AI games too, so I guess it's simply better to get a group of people just to spam AI
thanks
>>
>>168337243
Murky is already really good at tanking camps, I'd rather have fish eye for the vision or egg hunt for the stealth. Both of them let you put your egg right next to where you're going to fight which makes up for the longer respawn timer.

And like you said, you're going to be sitting at 30 stacks all the time. It means you're wasting a talent level for most of the game.
>>
>>168337780
Join General chat
say "LFG WoW mount"
get barraged with party requests
befriend someone in a party
get it done within an hour
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>>168338213
I wouldn't say waste if you can almost guarantee you get all camps.

Egg hunt seems like a gimmick that will quickly die out.
>>
Patch hit? See you guys next week
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>>168338241
yeah I thought general chat would be a dead thing, but I'm glad it isn't
thanks for the tip
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>>168338425
Free mount you bitch.
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>>168338425
>Lucio Tassadar Abathur Murky every game
The butthurt will be legendary.
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>>168338596
>free gay ass monut
dont care
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Post Li Li's
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>>168339154
>>
>The next support hero will almost certainly be Anduin

gross
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LUCIO

versus

LUCIO
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>>168339154
Who gave that child a gun?
>>
>>168339657
horde and the alliance
>>
Your hero wishlist? Here's mine.

>Kel'Thuzad
>Mengsk
>Imperius
>Stukov
>Mannoroth
>Cairne
>Fenix
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>>168338310
I don't think peopel are ever going to stop killing your egg. The default one dies in 2 hits anyway. But it gives you 3 wards instead of the 1 and you can use the extra slimes for big damage places like braxis or dragon shrine.
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>>168339783
How irresponsible.
>>
>>168340061
The extra slime requires you to be close to your fake egg though, which isn't always going to be. And the ward is barely a ward really.
>>
>>168340229
It's propaganda, they both gave her guns to make the other side look bad for giving a child a gun
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>>168339884
>Mengsk
>Stukov
>Firebat
At this point, this is all I need still.
>>
Fishy Deal on Murky is completely out of control.

Also there's no good reason he should only count for a quarter of a death. Should be half.
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>>168339884

Marin Noggenfogger
D2 Druid
Baal
Cairne Bloodhoof
Moroes
Al'Akir
Darion Mograine
Trade Prince Gallywix
Mannoroth
>>
>>168335356
NAZEEBO
>>
>>168339884
>Tirion Fordring

Would be fun smiting scrubs. With Uther being a more of a Holy/Prot pally, he would cover the Ret side.
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winning with luther is possible
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>It's a "Valeera dives 1v5 at the very start then the whole team just gives up" episode
>Mfw wasn't on the team with the Valeera
Feels good man
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>>168342549
the thing which doubles his health and egg respawn definitely should double his death counter as well
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>>168342549
It should be a full death. He's way tankier than Tracer now and they have about the same health.
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>get dc'd because shit internet
>come back to the game
>waiting time: 1:23
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>DEFEAT
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>>168245826
>Pufferfish (W)
Now deals 50% damage to Structures
Pufferfish can now be targeted by Structures
Pufferfish now has 225 Health and takes damage from Abilities

wtf he's useless now
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>>168344491
MARAAD
We, and by that I mean I, MYSELF, ME, need more Draenai in this game.
Let's start with a badass Paladin one like the good ol' Vindicator. Nostalgia since he's the one from the TBC cinematic is just a plus.

Velen is also ok.
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>>168345572
lmao you're a retard
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>>168345572
>fishy deal
>time to krill
>toxic buildup
>big kahuna tuna
Am I being baited, or?
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>>168344662
lmao whatever dude must be bronze xStreamboyzMemer420x says uther isnt viable at all faggot nice try
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I can't wait to buy Sgt. Hammer tbqh. It's kinda unlucky I don't get to play Abathur with a tank.
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>>168269437
Make a talent that reflects skill shots
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>>168346305
>Ricochet : Ranged abilities have 5% chance to be reflected and damage enemies.
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>>168346020
lmao dude tell me one reason why uther isnt complete trash compared to other healers
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>>168345927
no.
he's siege capabilities were compromised to make him just another regular hero
that's bullshit
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>>168346037
What build do you go when you don't have a tank?
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>>168346728
He's always been leaned more towards minion management and pushing than direct building sieging; the wider pufferfish radius buffs that considerably.
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>>168345927
>Their team is 4 ranged one of which is medivh
lol nice build bro
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>>168346305
>>168346673
10 talent that triples the health and makes skill shots bounce off him once every 5 seconds.
Lvl 20 talents takes off the 5 sec cd
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>>168346935
I go Locust, which is the recommended from a friend. Should I go hat build when I have no tanks?
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>>168347208
>Competes with his ult Earth Shatter
>Lvl 20 talent gives him an additional charge of earth shatter or it just does it again after a short period
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>>168347293
No idea, I am still learning (read: failing) Abathur. I tried some of the builds in here, but none seem very effective so far.

Note: only played QM. I am most deinitely fucking something up.
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>>168346305
Just in general, a reflect ability on any support.

>Give your target 50 armor against basic attacks from a range over 3, and reflect all of the blocked damage
Just that ability would already make him meta as a counter against that Valla/Ranged AA bullshit. Drop some moderate heal on him and he'd be good to go.
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how to i get good with greyMane
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>>168348149
Damage then in human form until they are on medium or low health, then jump in for the kill as worgen
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>>168339465
Ay Yo.

You got the Stormwind Guard version of this one?
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>>168346973
Yeah, but previously, if you had pushed a lane to a gate/fort/keep, you could just drop pufferfishes and get FREE meaningful siege damage. Not anymore.

>>168347684
Mines is good for maps or comps that heavily favor rotation, or against stealth shits in general.

Hat build is for your assassin/tank you can TRUST not to fuck up. It's an enabling build, you can't enable a retard, he'll just do retard stuff.

Locusts are great on big maps with random objectives that force people away from the lanes, i.e. Cursed Hollow and Infernal Shrines, since you can passively push the lane and help out in TF with hat/evolution.

I personally go for a mix, explosive cleave locusts, body soaking, 5 mine charges and some minor hatting stuff work pretty well for me.

Abathur is great in that he doesn't need every talent for a build to be effective at all, you can pick and adjust as you want. Double Hat can be great if built for it, but shields on evolution target enables the fuck out of some heroes and is viable with no other talents etc.

>>168348149
Poke a lot. If you think it's safe to jump on someone in teamfights, don't, it probably isn't. Wait for at least one other frontliner to divide attention, since you can't deal damage if you're dead.
Cocktail build is 'the' meta build, because it's that safe. Wolf is strong even if you don't pick any talents for it, and it's usually better to invest in safer options instead, anyway.

Take Cursed Bullet and it's upgrade, by the way.

tl;dr: >>168348573, just be sure you'll get away with it.
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Who here bought/is buying Sideboob Goddess Tyrande?
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>>168348760
That's a fair point. Still, I kinda prefer the additional presence he has in teamfights now. The wider radius fish is good for creating space, and you just shit out aoe damage and slows now; especially if you go for march of the murlocs.
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>>168349069
I would if I played Tyrande
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>>168349069
thats adorable
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>>168349069
When the Uther/Tyrande multiclass rework hits live, probably.
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>>168348760
Thanks.
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>>168349292
we need more DEDICATED drawfags. As of now, the only ones that I consistently check for HotS art is Lune and the guy that draws those pepe mock-ups
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Why is everyone freaking out about Murky? Compared to actual good heroes he's still unable to compete and he's too puny to survive against anything other than a shitty clown fiesta team
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>>168349647
Because he can survive and inflict damage properly now.
If he trades one for one, he wins, because he spends roughly 20-40 less seconds dead than whoever he got.
His attrition aspect got seriously sped the fuck up.

Gonna love squashing murloc shits with Varian tho.
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Soon.
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>>168349069
Maybe, I'm considering the Vrykul skin for Leoric
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>>168349938
what anime is this
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>>168348760
Would it still be effective if I took some of everything? Like I take some shield/hat, mine, locust AND needle buffs. Or is that too much?
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>>168350330
keku no stukov
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>>168350454
cue anime opening
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>buffing valeera after only a couple weeks because "muh winrates"
Once upon a time games used to let people git gud, not pamper them with buffs. Fucking (current year) gamers thinking they've mastered a hero after 50 games and no longer make flaws
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>>168348573
>>168348760
>actual advice and not shitposting
I knew most of that already but t\still thanks :))))

also, Greymane's Cursed Bullet heroic was changed afaik. What does that entail? Is it better and still the go-to choice?

>Fires a bullet that hits the first Hero in its path, dealing 35% of their current Health as damage. Cannot hit Vehicles.
>30 second cooldown, costs 50 Mana.
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>>168350431
There are certain synergies between certain talents that are strong enough that you don't want to miss out on IF you pick one of them. If you pick Locusts at 1, pick ranged locusts and 3 locust spawn later on. If you pick Spikes at 1, pick Soma transference for healing.
For one, just make sure you can do what you're trying to accomplish. Always push lanes and kinda help out in TF? Evolution is enough, go spikes and locusts.
Fuck rotations and help out in TF? Mines and some hat talents/evolution.

Carry the fuck out of one Illidan? Full hat with evolution.

Don't take everything, that just dilutes you. Stick to one or two things at most.

Always pick Evolution, by the way. I really want you to take this to heart.
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>>168351072
>Greymane's Cursed Bullet heroic
Pretty bad in higher leagues. Just gets healed up instantly because you're forced to use it on initiation to maximize damage (it does current % hp, not max hp)
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>Lost to an Abathur who took monstrosity and only used it one time because my teammates literally could not stop running off alone getting ganked
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>168351072
It dealt a little damage and reduced armor by 25 for 5 seconds, the duration refreshed for each attack you did on the target/Anyone did to the target at level 20.
Waay higher cooldown, also could get hit by minions.
It wasn't all that useful because a lot of heroes have vulnerable on demand.

Cursed Bullet goes through minions now. It fucks tanks hard and enables bursting down even healthier assassins and the sort. The pierce + CD reduction is potentially ridiculous in a pokewar, though at level 20 these become more rare.
Also way lower CD by default.

Now, how do we buff GftT so it isn't shit? Beyond fixing the bug where it doesn't even do anything
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>>168351313
So far every Match I got a Jaina, so I haven't even tried the other ulti.

In team fights with someone like Illidan, do I ulti and then hat or the other way around?
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>>168351591
five clown fiesta buddy :) working as intended :)
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>>168351768
First Ulti, especially with Illidan if you go Shield at twenty. Make sure you have turned the fight into a 4vs4 after your clone ends, else your team is fucked.
You can go all in and don't have to worry about dying, and most teams have trouble managing one of these slippery fucks, let alone two.
Hat him afterwards when it's even/in your favor. He probably won't need it as much, but it can't hurt.

Always wait for hard engages until you clone, or you potentially waste time.

Also, I'm only a 20 game Abathur. I'm just relaying information based on a little bit of personal experience, and what I have seen worked for Aba's I had in my games via Replay, and general advice from here and pros.
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>>168339884
Replace Fenix by Talandar and add Maiev, and we're good.
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So would you guys want Kel'Thuzad to have the exact same kit as WC3/Dota 2 or something more interesting?
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>>168353176
Why not, but Dark Ritual might need reworking. But same things from his raid fight could be taken as well
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>>168353620
>could be
Will be. 90% of the playerbase only knows Kel'Thuzad from WoW. A significant portion of his kit will be drawn from those people's expectations.
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>>168353620

>things from his raid fight
>frostbolt
>frostbolt
>blizzard
>faster frostbolt
>invulnerable phase spawning shit mobs
>frostbolt

Cool
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Johanna feels much much squishier than I remember. God help me if the enemy team has more than one AD... or Tychus. Halp.
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>>168339884
Whitemane
Any draenei character
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>mfw hearing braxis holdout theme in draft
love it
LOVE IT
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>>168352231
>Go for the Throat
>Greymane jumps at his target dealing massive damage and killing them if there health is below a certain threshold. Greymane gains 25 additional armor when activating the ability and if target is killed by GffT, Greymane becomes Unstoppable. This effect lasts 12 seconds.
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>>168354435
Oh God, need Velen and Nobundo.
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>>168354940
Sorry this was meant for >>168351610
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>>168354131
One of his ultimates will be the invulnerable phase spawning shit mobs

>>168353620
>>168353176
The exact same kit as WC3/Dota 2 is a definite no. However, I hope it will still remind us of warcraft 3, and I believe it will. Dark Ritual indeed needs reworking more than the rest, but Frost Nova, Frost Shield and the ultimate do too. As a passive, I hope he will have some kind of phylactery.
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>>168354131
>>168355410
>Combined rain of chaos with ultralisk
please stop
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>Lunara's Wisp is a basic ability
>Is literally worse than Scouting Drone

Why?
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>>168356487
Because Lunara's passive and mount are both extremely strong and require her to have a shit kit otherwise
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>>168356653
Lunara's passive speed is good, but Falstad's is similar and he gets a global on top of having an actual kit.
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>>168356487
I wonder if it would be OP if one of the talent choices made it stealthed
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>>168356802
Falstad can't kite his targets because his passive desactivate while in combat. What makes Lunara's passive so strong is the fact that it's permanent even in combat.
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>>168356902
>Walk next to a bush
>Suddenly that red eyeball spawns over your head
yeah that would be very op it would be literally impossible to tell where the wisp is.........
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>>168356914
I'm just saying, the benefits of chase are great, but nothing about that means that part of her kit should include a vision ability that's demonstrably worse than almost every comparable vision ability (Oracle, Chromie's vision talent, Scouting Drone, etc.)
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>>168357380
Maybe you don't put it in a bush then and instead put it outside the bush so you can spot the enemy walking in the bush

Oh wait, I forgot you are bronze
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>>168345458
Can someone who programs explain this shit? I have never seen this in any other online multiplayer game.
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>barely ever see medivh
>queue as medivh
>medivh on other team

BLIZZARD
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>>168358536
It's how Starcraft reconnects you. The AI takes control while you reconnect so you aren't totally behind.

Hots is made on the Starcraft engine. A system that works okay for Starcraft doesn't work so well for a moba.
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>>168358536
It's akin to the replay system. The game (when reconnecting and watching replays) is performing every single action in the game first. Every move, attack, command etc etc. Extremely stupid and honestly HotS needs a new engine, not fucking SC2 engine--garbo.
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>>168358915
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