/edg/scg/ Elite:Dangerous Star Citizen General #130: Fun Fun

It's dead until 3.0 or SQ42 gets released.

>>168044414
hence the /edg/ part

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>>168044414
>SQ42 gets released
Sweet summer child.

>doing some R+D with our animation programmers for a more advanced version of foot anchoring that adapts leg IK and ground alignment based on whether characters are on their heels or on the balls of their feet.
High heels confirmed

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15704-Monthly-Studio-Report

https://relay.sc/article/january-2017-monthly-report-summary cliff notes of the monthly report

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Large ship controls are even more sluggish in 2.6.1. Not saying they should fly like fighters, but if the Starfarer/Caterpillar already handle like this, flying something like an Orion must be a nightmare.

So I'm almost done grinding for my Corvette and I'm not sure what to do with it once it's done. I was maybe gonna set up in eravate or a cg or something and blow dads out the sky for fun. Fdev doesn't ban for trolling do they?

>>168046275
Cat new AB top speed is 300. The name finally fits.

>>168046379
Go to colonia and do it there

>>168046275
If I recall I was able to take on a connie in the starfarer in 2.5, it turned quickly and has large weapons.

>>168046571
Starfarer SCM:90 AB:270 Cruise time:22 seconds

The 350r has a PRE speed of fucking 70. I don't think you are doing anything but trying to go to quantum and get away in that thing.

>>168047021
I got a 350R, awesome.

>>168047197
The increased jerk has tightened the handling up a little. It also has fucking missiles, but they don't work.

Voyager direct is free on the ptu, if you didn't know.

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WAT THE FUG

>>168049784
it's a bug

>>168049784
Welcome to my world

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>Potty

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>>168051664
You fucking what mate?

>>168051664
>it used to mean something to fly around in one

It means you have a LOT of disposable time and nothing better to do.

>>168049784
Usually switching between open/solo fixes that for me.

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>afking in supercruise in open

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>>168052153
>flying without rebuy
he deserved it

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REEEEEEEEE

FUCK OFF BRABEN GIB ME MUH GIBS

>>168052364
>20 mission limit
Braben pls

ha ha ded

>>168046275
Making crew/turret gunners relevant, probably a good thing.

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post your shame

>>168056435
2weeks 3 days here

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>>168056435
145 hours and all i got is a shitty python

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>WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY RANK UP MISSIONS!!!???????/

Why is everything in this game fucking a pain in the ass to DO!!!!!!!!

>MISSION FAILED
>MISSION FAILED
>MISSION FAILED
>MISSION FAILED
>MISSION FAILED

>>168057479
stop accepting after you hear failed the first time retard, it locks you out of more missions and you'll have to wait for that game mode's station mission to refill. just reset and move on

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mfw 3.0 and SQ42 wont be released until July 2018

actually makes me sad ;_;

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>think about getting a VR headset for ED
>check how much htc vive costs
>899

>>168061694
>E:D without a second monitor for YouTube/Netflix/chinese cartoons

>>168061694
Elite is probably the worst VR experience I've had with my Vive so far. I tried it once and never again.

You can't read anything on your HUD and the contrast of the hud on black cockpit/space causes lots of rays on the lenses.

>>168062091
I've heard it was amazing by an Occulus user.

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Post some dadcore

>>168062323
>tfw this is the dominant voice on the forums
>tfw streamer dad fag says that its our fault and not the communities

>>168061694

>falling for the VR meme

Give it a year or two for this shit to die once people realize that the only games that come out for it are rail shooters and niche driving games and it'll be cheaper. VR in Elite is shit anyways.

>>168062323
saw this early this morning and gagged

>>168062490
>our fault and not the communities
What do you mean? I thought we were the community

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should i do it?
also why the fuck is the euro one cheaper then pounds?

>>168062557
>I thought we were the community
We have no voice.

>>168062583
brexit

>>168062583
You don't need the skins included in the commander pack. They're for shit ships you'll outgrow in two days.

>>168062583
Even at 24.99 europabux it aint worth it.

Is it good idea to setup base on a galaxy? I just keep going walkabout looking for cz missions

>>168062583
no,there ain't shit to do.All of the fun was learning how to do stuff and after that it was god damn repetetive misery

>>168062316
He's probably lying.

>>168062773
Never mind they're free.

>>168062583

How much do you like space games? And I mean... How much do you REALLY like space games? Do you enjoy the fuck out of shit like Freespace, Freelancer, Descent, etc? Or do you just like games like FTL that have a "space" theme but don't fully commit to the full space experience.

My best advice is to get just the base game and play that so you can grind up a ton of credits and mats and then buy Horizons during the Summer sale when it drops to 15 USD. The grind will take you up until the summer anyways.

>>168062932
He was a stream dad

>>168062503
I got it for specifically for sims. So far H3VR has been the most fun for it.

>>168062948
sithos/ceos m8

>>168062323
I agree with this guy desu, you lost. Get over it.

>>168059345
I'm afraid I'm right. ;_;

>>168062989
>>168063081

Not surprised. They're easily amazed. There's some neat stuff for VR right now, like H3VR, which are pretty fun.

The majority of VR games can be broken down into a few categories.
1. Simulators
It's pretty great for these. Unless your sim involves a bright huds on black (elite). There's some neat shit like Hotdogs, Horseshoes, and Handgrenades. Which is basically /k/ the simulator. It's fuck as fuck.

2. Arcade games
Fun for a bit, rapidly lose interest after a few hours. Ideal for showing off to family and friends.

3. GAME DESIGN major art projects
Usually a walking simulator, even though they have shitty locomotion mechanics. (The H3VR guy is the only one really doing decent experiments in different types of locomotion.) These generally have a terrible sappy drama plot, but some are kinda neat. But they're all basically once time experiences.

I'm happy with my sim headset, even if it doesn't work well with Elite. Hopefully someday there will be more variety of games available for it.


(Admittedly, fdev CLAIMED they fixed some of the blurring issues with the Vive but it's fdev so I didn't believe them and never tried again)

>>168062583
DO IT

>>168063695
>fuck as fuck

pretty accurate

>>168063748
go away david

>>168063971
FUCK OFF SON

>>168063695
>H3VR
what makes it any special?

>>168064215
Shooting realistic virtual guns is fun. The dev updates frequently (nearly every week) and usually adds new content.

Have two reviews of H3VR side by side, one by some shitter at Polygon and one by some random streamer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujtfN7hCdo

>>168062091
Elite with the Vive was amazing you blind autist.
Better than almost all of the other games and demos, including Valves own demo.

>>168064615
That has to be satire man.

>>168064736
When did you try it?

>>168063695
>(Admittedly, fdev CLAIMED they fixed some of the blurring issues with the Vive but it's fdev so I didn't believe them and never tried again)

I admit it may have improved. But I tried it release day of the Vive and it was a terrible experience. But if it actually is better now I'll give it another go later.

>>168065052
http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/12/11413572/guns-virtual-reality-htc-vive
The music was added but everything else is 100% straight from their review.

>>168065242
Everything good about Elite VR i've heard has been recent.

>They fell for the VR meme
Enjoy playing racing games, space games and unity tech demo """"games"""" because that's all you'll ever play

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>>168065415
I'll try it again later then.

>>168065481
>acing games, space games
But that's why I bought it, anon...

>>168065242
Tried it last July

Man when are the fucking aliens coming, I'm tired as hell of CZ and RES, lack the severe autism to explore and mine so that's all I'm left with

>>168065481
vr is the future of fapping anon

>>168067227
>explore
So many autists have said to me E:D has the best exploration in any game they've found
Do they enjoy jumping to a place for an hour?
I dont get it
Explain it to me

why is reputation decay a thing

>>168067960
It's really like Space Engine but worse in every single way, space engine is also free

>>168068019
>space engine is also free
and fast

>>168068014
VISION

>>168068019
>>168068085
>Doesn't need Season Pass™ to access cut content
>Made by one dude in his basement
>Better planet generation than elite
>~500mb

>>168044414
>>168059345
Nah bro. They said they were hoping to get it out by December of last year, this means they are really close to having it out. I know this because CIG has open development and is very competent.

You honestly think Chris would lie about this?

No. Fucking. Way.

Stop with the FUD bullshit, and go back to 10bux, Derek.

>>168070664
>Brace for disappoint.

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>>168071006
Jokes on you. I'm already disappointed.

>>168071268
Jokes on us both, I read this line as 100% insincere to begin with
>Nah bro. They said they were hoping to get it out by December of last year, this means they are really close to having it out. I know this because CIG has open development and is very competent.

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>>168070664
This post is actually kinda funny.

Is this some kind of sarcastic reverse psychology bait?

Anyway, we all know CR has lied about dates every single time so I'm pretty sure we are still far away from a 3.0 or let alone SQ42 release.

This year will be filled with 2.6.X patches and fake news about 3.0/SQ42 development just to make an attempt at calming down the riots,

[Spoiler] If there are 2 things I really want this year, its 1. Derek dead, and 2. 3.0. [/spoiler]

>>168071608
How the fuck did that spoiler get fucked up?

>>168068014

If you just play the game it's not a problem. Why do you complain about things that don't matter?

>>168071608
Tbqfh. 3.0 will out this year in some form 100%. We've seen much of the core work well progressed (cit/games-conscam) - these 2.6x patches are clearly not the resources of 300 people, but the relatively small PU teams.
S42 being out this year is pure hope, considering the "most of the first 20 levels were whiteboxed" of citcon and the new insight into the groundwork of the AI being done now (ATV).

Is there a Fed version of Fehu/Quince surface scans?

Also how the fuck do I do the undermining shit for merits. I go to enemy expansion zones and interdict and kill their dudes but I don't get any merits for it

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>>168072394
I think you are a little bit too optimistic

>>168072774
I'm Fed and doing Quince. It took a few donations to get enough rep, but once you start to get a few missions, you can swap from solo to open a bunch and eventually get going. I'm not making anything like the video, but it's better than some trade route.

>undermining
Are you actually in a system that is being undermined? I only did it in the systems listed in the power page and never had trouble.

>>168062323
Dad's right, though.

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>>168069112
>Erectile:Dysfunctionals will never get this shit

absolutely ha[OBSCURED BY VISION]

>>168073425

>obscured by vision

>go to high wake
>TARGET OBSCURED
>have to deselect target system just to low wake

Why can't it say that the target is obscured and automatically start a low wake jump? What else could I possibly do? That way I don't have to deselect every time

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>>168067960
>an hour
hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>168067960
>He doesn't know about engineers and highways

>>168073949
Bind another button for low wake, dumbass.

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>>168067960
Exploring places and figuring shit out can be fun.
If all you do is honk a system and onto the next then yeah, it's boring as shit.

>>168074272
That looks more detailed than before, what gives?

>>168074471
New ruin type they just discovered this afternoon.

>>168074272
But there's nothing interesting in 99.9999% of systems. And the only planets I can explore in detail are airless worlds with little of note. They all look exactly the same with a different color palette.

>>168074570
Ah, okay.

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Voyager Direct is fun as shit on the ptu store. I think I have everything I give a shit about equipping. I can see why whales do this. If money was no object, I would probably clean out the real store.

How much UEC have you spent on the real store?

>>168073049
I thought quince was empire?

>>168078930
It is, anon is just stupid.

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>>168073425
Dude space lmao

>>168071781
Capitalized the first S I guess

>>168078930
>>168079016
It is Empire. Doesn't matter. I did undermining against Duval non stop when I gave a shit about PP. Quince was neutral to me until I spent about 500k in donations to get the controlling power cordial. Then I started to get a handful of scan missions at a time. Now everyone is at least cordial and I'm starting to get more missions. It's slow, but doable and probably easier than any other method I know of. I kind of like driving the SRV too.

I'm actually playing SC right now since everything is unlocked and I'm shopping for guns to rent later. I can post screenshots to prove it, if you want.

>>168080065
I meant prove the ED part. You probably don't care about SC.

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This isn't even a proper alpha and it's already begun.

>>168080065
So i'm heading over to Quince now
Do I need a combat ship for this shit or just any ship with an SRV?

>>168082183
Just a SRV. Even if you don't suicide in the SRV, it's a pretty short loop.

>>168082183
Sometimes you won't get a Search Area: Outpost like the video, the Search Area: Building ones work too.

>can't drop SRV from high-low orbit
one fucking job

>>168082183
I use a sidewinder which you can buy in Millerport in Quince. The reason I use a sidewinder is because it's small and I part it right up against the outpost/building for quicker runs.

>>168083764
>>168082537
>>168082307
>needs to donate clothing
fucking imperial hobos

>>168072394
>Tbqfh. 3.0 will out this year
tbqfh you're a either trolling or a fucktard. my guess is the later

>>168083764
do you need a surface scanner?

>>168085019
no

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>>168085019
No, you don't need a surface scanner. You use the SRV.

>>168085019
>>168085087
ahhh.. ok then..thanks

>>168086823
meant for
>>168085139

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>>168087627
You're welcome.

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Was this ever updated?

>>168087963

Yes, Corvette and Cutter aren't even included. It's okay though, here's an abridged version of the chart.

>give yourself up to the grind until you have 20 million to buy and A-rate a Vulture
>pick your flavor of exploit: 17D or planet scans in Quince
>do this until you have an arbitrary amount of cash to purchase whatever ships interest you
>forget the Annie, Corvette, or Cutter they are meme ships that get outplayed (and out-funned) by smaller, engineered ships
>once you find a ship you like, cheese the fuck out of it with engineers so it is basically a super-powered multirole
>last tier: realize the game is hopeless and the true gameplay starts on the Frontier forums

>>168090303
Oh, I know the game by now. Just wondering if someone had the updated one. Better to work from that.

>>168090303
I have a 18ly jump-range vulture without fuel scoop, redpill me in going to 17D

>>168095153
you don't, there's a lockdown now.
I mean you could but just to get rep+ with the two main factions and park your vulture there until there's another civil war

once war were declaered:
>get massacre missions from one of the warring factions, the more rep you have with them the better
>switch modes and pick more missions from the same faction till your mission shit is full
>go kill ships on a CZ, get fucked by 5 or 6 NPCs with railguns all pointing at you
>keep doing it till you complete missions and cash in

but i think you already knew this

>>168096219
So the plan is to increase rep with both factions instead of focusing on one? don't you lose rep by killing the other faction?

>>168095153
You could go to Robigo, (get that rep by trading/exploring first) and sell slaves till you collapse

Its boring as fuck, and you need some cargo space to do money but if the easiest method imo

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>>168087963
>orca
I know it's a meme ship but I unironically enjoy it
>high speed ramming action
>hulltanking for days
>stylish bridge with good cockpit visibility
>size 5 fsd so i can share with my engineered asp and compensate for its shit jump range
>the fasten-your-seatbelts ding when you boost
I used it for the bounty hunting CG and rammed pirates to death more often than I shot them

Where the fuck do I get "Proto Heat Radiators"?

Inara says ":Signal source (High grade emissions), Mission reward, Higher chance in Boom system states"

So do I go trawling for those signals and do missions in boom systems?

Is that the only way?

Fuck this system is dumb.

>>168096332
they are both federation factions.
the point of it is that, when there's a civil war, you can support the one that can keep the system in a state of civil war, instead of having one overcoming the other and ending the war completely.

>>168097571

Nevermind. Figured it out.

Cargo scooping in a 'vette is a fucking test of agility though, holy shit

>>168100843
Launch fighters and have them pick it up instead.
Oh wait...

just bought a Clipper

Tell me why I've fucked up

>>168107195
its a cool ship im jelly

Any other systems near the bubble with good massacre missions? I've found at least 10 in civil war + military but no missions spawn, has FDev nerfed it?

>>168075896
$0 you autist.

>buying the shitty guns that will be superseded before the game is even released.

>Really liked FDL
>Get out-memed by federal box ships

Has this changed or is the incredibly expensive and sexy FDL still just a sidegrade to the federal ass shit?

>>168109386
grind and join the real pilots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1oBDQHhfM

>>168061694
I'm gonna get so much hate for so many reasons for posting this but the Rift is better for Elite. It's a lot more comfortable to wear and you don't need the roomscale accuracy. Not that it is significantly cheaper but it is a better option if you insist on having VR. And yes, it is more difficult to read shit in VR, but I would say the experience somewhat mimics taking psychedelics. The feeling of immersion is breathtaking.

t. anon with maximum privilege

>>168039474
>What makes a backer go this insufferable?
Cognitive dissonance. The worse they're treated by RSI, the more their faith is tested. If you call their judgement into question, you're attacking their self-image.

So I just got like 800 merits with the asian dude with the missiles. I've been with the dude for like a month and a half and unlocked the missiles. If I leave him for the princess can I still buy the missiles?

>>168114082
Also if I ever decide to go back to him do I get to keep my progress with him?

>>168112423
i would several hundred is a lot cheaper,doesn't seem to be worth the money though,rather put that money to a gpu or a monitor

>>168114446
800$ for early adopter hardware with literally zero software content of worth. Hardware that will be outdated in 3-6 years, when viable content starts to emerge.
Better ways to use 800S.

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ded

>>168114082
>>168114347
fuck off and kys

>>168114347
No to both, so buy the missiles and store them for later.

>>168118357

t. anime princess

So I got to Robigo,sell dem slaves, get an anaconda...then what?

>>168112423
Go away, Dad.

The Vive has most adjustments you can make. Especially useful if you have glasses and you don't like them banging against the lenses in the Rift.

>>168124057
The Rift's lenses can be adjusted for bad eyesight though, rendering glasses unnecessary.
Not defending it though, it's a Facebook piece of shit that should fucking die

>>168124741
that escalation tho

>>168124741
>The Rift's lenses can be adjusted for bad eyesight though, rendering glasses unnecessary.
Not my eyesight.

>>168123256
rodigo is months old anon

>>168113197
That makes sense. They have invested so much of themselves personally into this game that any criticism of the game must seem like a personal attack on them. What a tragic and limiting view.

Whether it is politics, social norms, or vidya, there is always someone hitching their identity to whatever ideal they think was written just for them. CR is not making YOU a game, he is making a game. The number of people who get personally offended whenever there is a gameplay change is fucking alarming. The dad meme is fun and games here, but subreddit has fights over who will post the rule reminders when posts are not formatted perfectly, or when someone asks a question. It was like the other anon said earlier about ED, the final stage of this game is the social media surrounding it.

>>168127216
Also remember that a lot of them have wives and children. I'm sure they're attacked often by family or are hiding it from them.

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>shilled out 17 million cr for type-7 so I could exploit my systems juicy trade routes
>tfw demand tanks and only one station within 200ly sells anything of value

I could have a Python by now

>>168127468
>tfw the people you care about not understanding your hobby.
I know that feel. I moved cross country because most all my friends sucked and just used me for my tech skills. No one shared my interests, so I said fuck em, and moved to the left coast and got a good job. Now I buy whatever jpegs I want or whatever other space games get recommended, my true friends are still in touch, and weed is legal here. Life is good and dads are funny to me.

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>>168087963

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Eveyrbody go back to sleep.

No important updates this year.

No 3.0
No SQ42

Just lies about how close they are to releasing it and that everything is going "smoothly".

And last, DS wont die this year either.


I hope I'm wrong on every single count, but I'm afraid I'm not.

If we get 3.0 this year, it will be extremely barebone with a lot of missing promised features.

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>>168129641

Heh, glad I play Elite: Dangerous: Horizons and not that scam Star Citizen!

2.3 will be awesome! Multi crew will be a deep and fully fleshed out addition to the game, and will be supported by worthwhile input from Elite's fantastic player community! Landing on planets with atmospheres surely won't be just a pallet swap from ordinary landings! The game is completely fine and will continue to be fine! Corvettes and Cutters for everyone!

>>168130281
>>168052084
>>it used to mean something to fly around in one

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>>168130281
Remember, FDev is working hard to remove fun if we ever encounter it in the game.

CIG is actually making an attempt at creating something but is using their sweet sweet time doing so, which is kinda painful after all those mentioned dates from CR.

http://imgur.com/a/Xhybc
Caterpillar interior damage states are in now.

Has anyone noticed any problems with NPC crew earnings? Mine are clearly incorrect and are far too high given my profits since I hired them. They even sometimes display completely different amounts depending on which screen I look at.

>>168133448
Isn't it around 16% if they're Elite?
I don't know about NPC crew earnings messing up but my insurance keeps showing the wrong number randomly for my ships. It will decide to show half but if I lose my ship, it's the right amount. Or sometimes not either of the amounts...

>>168134093
That sounds right but back when I first tried this I hired a Harmless rank then later another, and the 2nd guy was displaying more earnings than the first which couldn't be possible.

>>168129641
Watch out kids we have a time traveler here.

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Look at these damage states

https://youtu.be/f9Lsp3YawZI

>>168135709
>23 minutes
sum it up Igor

>>168136418
It's the damage states for the Caterpillar just skim through it.

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>>168135709
glad to see the scarring actually stays on the Cat, so I can write something down the side with enough firepower. I tried it myself and well...

>>168136649
Ping, ping, ping, ping

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>>168135341
You can somewhat predict the future to some degree if you take statistics about CIG and read between the lines on CR's emails and RSI news.

They are still strugling with creating a system so we can have many players play at the same time to be able to do 3.0.

They are still having huge amounts of problem with the AI.

The animations are still not done which means there is something wrong. Maybe they had to redo a lot of stuff because of changes to 3.0.

They are still even trying to figure out how to let many players dock at the same station.

+++ a lot of other problems they dont know how to fix yet and is still experimenting with.


So yeah, we can somewhat predict a long wait for 3.0 and SQ42.

>>168137024
Goon memes worst memes.

>>168137024

Don't forget the new network system they are trying to implement in 3.0.

It's a fuck-ton of shit they have yet to nail down how to solve and then there is a huge amount of time they need to actually code the it.

>>168135709
man that procedural damage on the cockpit struts really highlights how there was absolutely no damage to the windows themselves.

>Join CZ
>Has capital ship in it
>Take capital ship side
>Bring enemy down to 30%, capital ship finishes him off
>I get 0 credits for the kill
I wonder who could be behind this

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>>168138801

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>>168109386
FDL is still meta. You've just got to improve your pvp game

>>168065481
you forgot first person shooters, jelly poorfag

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>>168141389
Dont forget Sairento VR.

Awesome VR game!

ded?

but why

are we all having fun playing our games?

>>168062053
you can have a virtual monitor instead
https://github.com/Hotrian/OpenVRDesktopDisplayPortal
not recommended for chinese cartoons as the subs are hard to read

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Why the fuck are Orgs RPing on the PTU? Who the fuck is Aerospace Alliance and why are they such colossal faggots?

I'm fucking done. Asked those assclowns nicely to leave and they act like their "fleet ops" are some excuse for shooting landed ships and shooting people looking for floor clipping in Kareah.

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>>168144829

Both ED and SC is still pretty barebone.

SC is just some Vanduul Swarm, Racing and a few quests restarting arrays.

ED is just a grindfest for better ships through mats and reputation. The grind is just killing and transporting.


The funny part is that ED is released even when the whole goal of the game being so narrow and simple.

Hopefully a patch will make it better and give us some goals with meaning and impact, but this is where SC will shine hopefully.

IF IT GETS RELEASED.

>>168146187
you can report them to CIG for getting in your way if you are bugtesting and theyll get their PTU access revoked back to the last wave (or permanently if they are being real shitters)
the best bit is even if the cigdrones complain, just say "i was trying to make the game better by finding bugs and these pvp griefers were stopping me, might have been paid by derek"

>>168147353
According to one of the other players, they were doing the same "lockdown" thing a couple weeks ago and several players grouped up to take them out. They really thought that doing "fleet ops" was somehow different than RPing.

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>Broo needs 50 Fujin Tea
>It's sold 5 at a time

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So when is Exploration going to be worth venturing out into the void?

When will exploration become actually risky and require you to be armed to explore otherwise spooky things will rape you?

When will we be able to get out of our ships and walk around, exploring derelict ships/Alien Ruins, armed and ready to fight off forgotten horrors?

When will there be actually interesting things to find out in the galaxy? (Dyson spheres, Niven Rings, Space hulks, etc)

When will there be things like pic related to run into?

>>168150801
The forumdads don't want anything too scary out there. They already ran to the forums in tears because the alien ship cutscene terrified them. To add real danger to their no risk hobby would be worthy of angry letters to the Frontier board of investors.

>>168150801
never

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>>168150801
But anon, that would require E:D to be an actual fun video game

So what ship will be the best carrier Cutter,Corvette,Anaconda?

>>168150801
Never ever ever ever ever ever

>>168150801

Probably never. But I'd expect them to keep adding alien stuff to the surface of planets and the like.

>>168150801
Try to research the whole guardian ruins shenanigans, it's the closest this game has to engaging exploration right now.

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>>168151519
Maybe FDev is keeping the fun stuff on a halt until SC get's it's 3.0 released so they can learn about what kind of game designs work and what does not?

>>168150801
>Dyson spheres
brabo was asked about this once and said no

>>168152478
We get fucking xeno archaeology instead of a xeno purge

>>168137024
>You can somewhat predict the future to some degree
No.

>>168153216
>MUH XENO PURGE
Fuck off, whammy shitter.

>>168153216

That comes next

>>168153285
Ok, so when do you think we'll get 3.0?

My bet is desember this year at earliest.
More realistically February/March 2018.

>>168142328
Is it really that good? Doesn't seem it adds much over Raw Data, other than that slomo jumping mechanism.

>>168152637
you imply Fdev is capable of learning anything. their current record has been providing lots of strong examples of what not to do and why for CIG to follow.

>>168152139
pls respond,idk what to grind towards

>>168157172
grind yourself an ana
once you got that
you are able to have "fun" grinding reputation for the other two

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For Star Citizen fans.

I was reading about their ships and came across the description of the Drake Herald.

The fuck is this used for? I dont understand at all its position in a space sim. Transporting information? lol You just keep it in a txt file/spreadsheet and send it over mail/chat window.

The fuck?

>>168157470
maybe fast transport of small important cargo
or stuffs

>>168157470
You've never geocached a usb stick full of all your illegal bitcoin wallets in a brick so that your darknet webmaster can transfer funds to arms dealers?

>>168157470

It's for ARRRR PEEEE purposes.

>>168157470
There's no FTL communication, so to get data to another system you have to send it through jump points somehow. Either cheap-ass drones that can be intercepted with little effort in comparison or a data carrier like the Herald.
Gameplay-wise it's probably just gonna be a cargo ship, except the cargo is non-physical. Has advanced scanners and limited EWAR capabilities as well.

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>>168157470
>The fuck is this used for?

Coziness.

>>168157470
We have been told that mining information and temporary jump point info will be worth money to sell for whoever gets there first.

1. scan mining area for yield and ores
2. load data on Herald and send back to nearest comm relay.
3. sell scout reports for profit

S U P P O S E D L Y

>>168157828

What info? System coordinates? Damn thing doesnt make any sense.

>>168158250

By that reason alone any scanning ship would be forbidden of saving said coordinates. You need a fucking special ship to store these? Thats fucking retarded.

>>168158496
Finding the specific ores would be a Prospector or other ship with a "mining scanner" however that will work. Certain ships will have jump scanners stock, like 315p, that can sell the jump data via Herald courier. Salvage info could be sold this way too.

>>168158309
I doubt you can be that unimaginative but I'll bite.

UEE Colonel A want to tel UEE Colonel B something but there's not FTL comm and it can't be allowed to fall in enemy hand.
So he send a Drake with the infos like enemy position, newly discovered jump point ...etc

Then the Herald is also equipped with good scanner so you can use it as scout.
And since it has "hacking module" you can use it to disrupt what you want.

>tl;dr
>lot of gameplay can be done just with info cargo, sensor and hacking

/u/jadesuccubus
>weeb
>confused sexuality
>turbo autist
I know this faggot is from here and in kwa

Coupled vs Decoupled.
Imo - coupled is literally training wheels (arcade aerospace flight), which is fine, decoupled is how everyone should be flying if they want to git gud.

Any counter argument?

>>168161806
coupled has training wheels itself in the current flight model

Anyone around 17D to report on status? Seems like it's been on lockdown for a very long time.

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>tfw

I did some mis-calculation on materials. Was only able to thermal vent one of them. I want to thermal vent them all

I just reader someone saying elite is only grinding for better ships... yeah but only 1% of elite is that think about it what have you done=Your mission in the game is what you want to take it to be. You make the game you make your own journey you are the game. For me this game is seeing galaxy exploring getting winged up by strangers and having fun shooting pirates and escaping over powered enemies. Landing on planets sharing your journey.. your story to others. Helping the game to get better. We all have downs and ups but this game isn't made only for grinding. Its beautiful universe there go go feel free to explore and find undiscovered places beautiful scenes no hurry no stress or want to be most successed businessman in the news of elite? trade with sidewinder and get in top of cq and get yourself in garnet "commander who was in top 25% using only sidewinder" and as we got to this point of news... read the news don't worry about real world for a second read about whats happening in elite dangerous. This game is made for open minded people and its made for opening closed minds.

I want to melt other ships, and i'm on a Vulture with no engineer upgrades. life is suffering.
I have 230mill to blow. Recommend me a ship that lets me kill shit in CZs and HazRESs more efficiently without doing any PP bullshit
Also weapon upgrades, which ones I should get?

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>>168161806
>Any counter argument?

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>Play Elite Dangerous
>fly around for 10 minutes
>log off

>>168164668
Federal Funships

>>168157959
That looks pretty damn cozy. How expensive is this JPEG?

>>168164354
go away, dad

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>Arrive at destination system after 37 jumps
>Get interdicted
>In best warship available
>Fighting, winning
>Shields down for half second
>CANOPY COMPROMISED
>CANOPY BREACHED
>Kill enemy
>Forgot to upgrade life support
>The only place to land is a planet
>Can't do it in time
>33m credit mistake

>>168167153
bout tree fiddy

>>168167552
Life support is the first item I always upgrade due to mistakes like that.

So where is a good place to grind donation missions for the feds with 17D on lockdown? I want to get rank for the corvette with a minimal impact on my mental health.

>>168165018
Das what I thought.

>>168152637
>Maybe FDev is keeping the fun stuff on a halt until SC get's it's 3.0 released so they can learn about what kind of game designs work and what does not?
It would make a little sense to hold something back for that release so that they can try to overshadow it.

Though I really, really doubt that FD can match SC's hype. SC is weaponised memes.

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tell me edg/scg/
should i buy Elite or SC jpgs?

>>168153080
>brabo was asked about this once and said no
The Elite universe doesn't seem to be at the level of sci-fi that includes mega-structures and shit. That's another order of magnitude of techno-magic. All the fiction that includes those kind of things also tend to have free-energy and basically instant mining where a race can just melt planets down to make shit instead of send tiny little ships out to an asteroid to poke bits off it and then spend minutes collecting floating shrapnel.

How many type-6s with limpet drones would it take to collect the rocks to build a niven ring?

>>168172246
>Elite
no
>SC
when 3.0 comes out

>>168164354
>I just reader someone saying elite is only grinding for better ships.
>This game is made for open minded people and its made for opening closed minds.
This sounds like the newest of newfags. Did someone just find this thread on google and go respond?

>>168172721
copypasta from reddit

>>168172246
BUY ED

>>168172957
FUCK OFF BRABEN

>>168172246
Buy ED now and by the time you are ready to kill yourself, SC might be updated enough to play.

>>168172927
>copypasta from reddit
Aah, that makes more sense.

I should have realised that but I'm not embarrassed about not knowing these memes.

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>>168167552
You must be incredibly bad if you let an npc get your shields down on a ship with a 33 Mil rebuy

Dads need to leave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6WONFYAfvk

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>>168172475
>>168172957
>>168173123
Buying ED then. should i get horizons too? would i get raped without it?

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>>168174653

>>168174653
Buy just ED, then when you have the gun and pills on the table and you are finally resolved to end it all, buy Horizons and realize you have some time left.

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August 2016:
>3.0 by the end of 2016
>4.0 by August 2017

February 2017:
>haven't implemented delta patching, still 25gig patches
>haven't implemented spectrum yet
>haven't fixed subsumption yet (required for SQ42)
>haven't done all the animations yet (required for 3.0) (required for SQ42)
>haven't given the required tools to artists to craft 3.0 missions yet (required for 3.0)
>haven't implemented the room pressurization system yet (required for 3.0)
>haven't implemented item 2.0 yet (required for 3.0)
>haven't finalized the item buying system (required for 3.0)
>haven't finished network ordering yet (required for 3.0)
>haven't discovered a way to have more than 20 or so players in an instance (required for 3.0)

>>168174958
>fixed subsumption
you don't even know what that is do you

>>168175362
Wow I guess I got BTFO.

3.0 soon, nigga

>>168174958
>haven't discovered a way to have more than 20 or so players in an instance
24 is the cap for Crusader and has been for like a year, SM free for all matches go up to like 30.

>>168174653
Nah, buy base ED only. If you're still interested in it by the time of the nearest sale, than get H at discount.

>>168174653
Might as well

I actually find engineers fun.

Elite autist here. Curious about Scam Citizen.

What's the cheapest comfy ship?

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>>168177557
Mustang Beta

>>168174653

horizons is mandatory if you want to do PvP, engie mods (horizons only) transform your ship.

If you have enough dosh and really like spess games get both now, if you're more unsure buy ED only and wait to buy Horizons until you know if you like the base game or not.

like >>168174925
pointed out, getting horizons will be a shot in the arm when you're ready to kill yourself from the grind in the base game.


until you realize that behind the (admittedly extremely comfy) veil of planetary landings, horizons contains more grind.

>Send out collector limpets
>they smash right into debris

Man, people sure program shit dumb due to fear of AI, don't they

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>>168178502

>ah, neat! a piece of debris to use for ship experiments!
>send out drone to collect it
>drone violently explodes once it deposits debris in my cargo bay with no hope of recovery

every ship should get one collector limpet that never dies tbqh

>>168178956

Actually I've learned the key is to not target anything when sending them out. Then the'll be programmed for "Grab anything you can for as long as you live" as opposed to "Grab this one thing, then kill yourself"

>>168178956
>>168178502
If you don't target a particular item, the limpet collects everything within range. Dumb? Very much yes.

>>168178502
Keeping in mind of the person that writes Frontier's AI code, who is a known liar and writes erotic fanfic.

>>168180951

I more meant in-universe.

The idea that, in 3303, that people are too fucking gunshy about strong AI to the point where they have drones/programs that are dumber than dogshit

>in cz with friend
>dad arrives in an anaconda
>instead of sticking with the green he goes stays behind
>gets attacked by 2 enemy corvettes
>logs out before dying
so this is the power of the dad

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>start interacting with a group of people doing dad stuff
>game automatically becomes 500% better
Man, edg is so in the wrong here.

>>168181247
>you joined up with people complaining against qol improvements for the purposes of immersion on the FD forums?

Explain this.

Is elite still shit?

>>168181379
Joined a group of people heavily immersed in "lore" and doing mostly non-combat stuff.
Why did you quote your question?

Also, is there a good place to maek money in Elite or nah? Without trading and that's less boring than RES in a Courier.

>>168182103

17 draconis is one way. Passenger missions if you have the system rep. Robigo smuggle jobs pay less than before but is still reliable and is at least one step above trading on the suicide-wish scale.

>>168181631
If you can fill in the missing gameplay with imagination, the game becomes amazing.

Unfortunately, the hardcore RPers who manage to do it believe that everyone who asks for said missing features to actually be implemented is playing the game wrong.

>>168182260

What's on 17 draconis?

is chris going to be ok? i hear that the Oroville dam is having a happening right now

>>168182439

mission stacking when the system goes into civil war

>>168184241
literally other end of the state, with mountains in between.

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How should I build my Corvette?

I have turreted bursts on every hardpoint and huge MCs but it just doesn't seem to do the trick anymore. Should I get a fighter hanger?

>>168182103
Passenger missions
Planet Instillation Scan Stacking
Civil War Stacking
Robigo Runs
Robigo Exploit

This is how u make money

>>168182383
Those fags might be a small subset of idiots from the fdev forums, most of these "RPers" I've met so far don't seem to be like that at all.

This all happened because I was starting to get kinda bored with the game, so I looked back at UO and SWG and how the moments I remember the most were player interactions (not necessarily RP) since the combat and most gameplay mechanics weren't as polished as they could have been or weren't even there at all.
I'm applied this knowledge to ED and holy shit, it might sound stupid but it really feels like a whole different game now.

>>168177759

>That piece of shit of a shuttle has living quarters inside

lol

>>168184241

He used backer money to buy a glorious yacht so he can sail in swag, showing the world how hot is his wife in topless.

>haters gonna hate

>>168187128
>a glorious yacht so he can sail in swag, showing the world how hot is his wife in topless
pics?

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>>168185715
Yes, get a fighter and level up a pilot.

Get good with plasma accelerators and put them on the huge hardpoints

>17 draconis
>pending states: civil war

>>168187264

Srry. I dont think theres sauce on that yet (I tried).

Word has it that her greatest fan (some nigger goon) found footage of some fag tickling her while she was tied, but thats it.

>>168187691
Web searches just led me to either Julia Roberts stuff or Erin Andrews stuff. I don't think Erin Roberts is that popular.

OTOH: I saw her listed as a producer on Privateer 2: The Darkening which was a damn good game, producer usually just means someone who contributed ideas (possibly against the will of actual designers/writers/directors. I wonder how meaningful her ideas were because it's a good credit to have regardless.
>goon
On an unrelated note, I've seen a lot of talk about goons.
Is SC really popular on SA or does GoonSwarm have a SC branch?

>>168188106

Dont know. No fucks given though....

Goons lost their sov on EvE and the something awful forums got its thunder stolen by 4chan, so good riddance I say.

>nevertheless, given how big SC will be once completed, expect nothing less than hundreds of suicide bumpers

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>>168187672

Good. I was starting to feel poor again.

If it's pending, that means we're likely 3-4 days away from the actual missions/zone spawning. Who's going to war?

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>>168188106
they used to have a foothold in the SC community but then they >picrelated

and then their champion fag4thefaggod committed seppuku by whining to sandi via customer service so much he got banned and now hangs around like a bitter ex-wife tring to make everyone else life as shit as theirs.

>>168178956
>out mining
>try to scoop shit while my limpets work so i can split the workload
>they grab the shit out from under me and make cheeky drone noises
They really need more programming options, like being able to pick out groups of items to target/avoid

>>168188507
pending can be up to 14 days, anon

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>>168188106
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3800238&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=612

They have regulars sifting through every tidbit of SC development to bash them.
I don't understand what motivates them anymore. Every time I look it's the same people, and I've checked since about last year.
Who does this with something they don't like?

Explain to me. EXPLAIN TO ME.

>>168188507
I guess I might.

I guess wings mean you can't board flip as effectively.

Is there much benefit to winging up for these things or does it just come down to last-hit on everything?

>>168190798
in a mission where you have to kill shit if you do any damage to something and it dies it counts for the mission, so winging up is great as long as you are focusing targets

>>168190583
>I don't understand what motivates them anymore
Traditionally, Goons did it for the lulz.
Any insular group is in danger of becoming an echo chamber though and if they got butthurt about RSI then I could see it just feeding itself.
The community as a whole focuses on crusades (and unbelievably, has some discipline about them) so if that got misdirected into hate posting, I can see how it could become pretty toxic.

>Who does this with something they don't like?
It's not fundamentally different to the daily/hourly /pol/r9k/ and /tv/ threads complaining about niggers/shills/females/whatever.

>>168083005
>We will never have space marines style droppods.

>>168190890
>in a mission where you have to kill shit if you do any damage to something and it dies it counts for the mission, so winging up is great as long as you are focusing targets
Sweet. Come war time, maybe we can try to organise something?

Is ED a global instance? If I'm in a system in open play, is it guaranteed that every other player in that system is in the same instance? Or are the warp 'sites' instanced with a cap on players or something?

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>>168191268
It isn't globally instanced, but it's much easier to instance with people on your friends list.

>>168150801
Sunless sea is a better exploration game.

>>168191268
Hahahahaha. ED multiplayer is a fucking joke. It has a number of terrible design flaws because fdev wanted to go p2p to avoid having to manage servers properly.

Instances are limited to 32 players. Yeah. 32.
But that's okay because the instancing sucks and you rarely get put it one with other players. The netcode is fucking awful. I think the most I've ever seen was 10.

Even using Wings and the wing beacon that exists EXPLICITLY FOR GETTING YOU INTO THE SAME INSTANCE AS YOUR WINGMATE.

Now, assume that fdev fixed the instancing issues and you were ALWAYS put into the most populated instance unless it was full.

Instances are tiny. Supercruise in a system is one area. Around a station, one area. Around a different station in the same system, different one area.

You could have 100 people all puttering around the same system doing activities, with perfect netcode, and you'd only ever see people/be able to talk to people in local in your immediate area.

If someone leaves supercruise to dock, gone. If someone leaves dock to fly elsewhere, gone. If your mining buddy low wakes to find a new asteroid field, gone.

Combined with the fuckhuge size of the bubble, let alone galaxy, you'll only ever see a few people around a station during a CG because they all have a reason to go to the same place.

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>>168193889
In addition, if the station involved in the CG or exploitable mission area is an outpost expect to see nobody right after it gets populated. Because everyone will get sick of waiting for landing pads and switch to solo.

I dunno what the fuck fdev expected would happen to docking attempts if the multiplayer wasn't a fucking joke. They're brits, right? So I gussed they expected people to queue up outside the mail slot.

>>168193889
>If someone leaves supercruise to dock, gone
>If someone leaves dock to fly elsewhere, gone
>If your mining buddy low wakes to find a new asteroid field, gone
just like real life space

>waah waah why isnt it like wow!!!

>>168194860
I too enjoy the feeling of completely and utter lack of other people besides the robotic recordings that tell me not to loiter when I dock.

>>168194442
>So I gussed they expected people to queue up outside the mail slot.
Well that's what the docking comp does.

>until you nudge the throttle, cruise into the slot on manual and then bring it back down, then you jump the queue and go straight to a pad

>>168195174
>besides the robotic recordings
>Welcome back commander, good to have you with us.
I like some of the robot voices. Robert's Port has a warm, friendly traffic controller.

>>168193889
>you'll only ever see a few people around a station during a CG because they all have a reason to go to the same place
During the recent Fedmich CG, I ran into several people in the salvage instance but yeah, it was only about five people. Compare that with Eve...

OTOH: Eve earns >$1mil/month, they can afford data centres.

>>168186478
>most of these "RPers" I've met
>I've met
>met
There you go. We aren't talking about people who play the game and you can "meet" in the game. We're talking about forumdads.

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>>168195174
Get rid of solo and private, introduce dedicated servers and instancing and change the way stations work, I.e maybe when they doc they enter another instance so that pads are never full

Or in large hubs make massive orbital or planetary based able to house many many players?

>>168141056
Fair enough

>>168195721

What if we got rid of open and they introduced a proper story/NPC interactions and modding tools? Keep PGs for people to fuck around with their friends.

I will never not be mad ever since Ftroop suddenly decided to make Elite into some abomination of a MMO and singleplayer game.

>It was probably a mistake by FD to show progress bars for things like rank

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>>168197190
Then it won't be an mmo and just another single player game dad

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fucking Imp rank buy/grind

I'm poor again

>>168197225
We complained until they added them. It's a good indicator of whether or not something's changed or bugged.

>>168197619
>times flies when youre building a deck
kek

>>168197668
>poor
i only have 5m and think im rich...

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>>168198049
mfw

truthfully, I'm budgeting for the costs of A-rating a Vette and Cutter, so I'll need this cash.

>>168198049
also:

I'll spot you like 10m in Panite if you want it bro, no prob

>FDad convinces me to buy vulture
>no fucking damage
>also slower than a viper
>NO FUCKING DAMAGE OPTIONS
WHY DID I FALL FOR THIS MEME
the power is so bad

>>168198515
>not running a dual beam w/ engineered power systems build

found the problem

>>168198563
I dont have horizons
I told the dad that too but he said vanilla vulture is fine
He lied to me
Regardless of whether or not I have horizons im not at a place in the game to be engineering

>>168197619

There is nothing wrong with a game being singleplayer. I'd rather take a well built single player game than the shit we have now.

2.6.1 live when

>>168198627
here's the git gud for the vulture, AKA how to pull down 2m per bounty run.

>Military hull, kinetic and reflective are shit
>Large gimballed multicanon (will rip apart hull)
>Large gimbaled Beam, or if poor, burst (fucks shields)
>A-class power distributor (a must)
>Grade A or B shield (if B, add on all boosters w/ one heatsink)
>Grade A Thrusters
>A or C powerplant, B runs way too fucking hot
>A-FSD, because obviously
>D-class life support so you get some extra time with lower weight
>D-scanners for weight and because A's have zero benefit
>All hull reinforcements in optionals, maybe throw a fuel scoop in if you plan to hop around to systems
>absolutely equip a kill warrant scanner (gives 30-40% more per target scanned)

How to fly the bounty vulture:

>find high-pop system with a gas giant that has thick rings
>make sure station with repair/reload and bounty contacts is close by, like orbiting the gas giants with the rings
>only roll in High danger extraction zones
>stay with system security as they help kill the big shit
>never take on conda's, clippers, or gunships alone
>take popshots at the perps, but make sure to scan them with the KWS before killing them for that dank extra 35%
>never shoot at a target that's chaffing, your shots will hit the dipshit cop NPC's and they'll turn on you
>continue rolling in the cop furball until multi is empty
>roll back to station and cash in
>rinse and repeat

Expect 10m/night in a high pop system with this method. I'd recommend testing your setup out in my home system Irusan as it is exactly the kind of system you're looking for. Bella port is right next to the killing fields

>>168198627
>I told the dad that too but he said vanilla vulture is fine
I got told right here in /vg/ to fly vanilla Vulture rather than my cobra MKIII.
I'm a way off affording it though.

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>>168198791
>have CGs, wings, soon to have multicrew and semi dynamic universe is
>it needs to be singleplayer

No fuck off, you're the reason why this game is dying. Fdev are desperately trying to instill mmo aspects while you dadcucks complain then sit in solo until you get bored and never play again.

The game needs to be engaging on a mass level, introduce bosses, bring in big bad thargoids, make an actual player influenced economy. With that fdev can make more money through cosmetic microtransactions and fucking do dedicated servers

Old people that are afraid of pvp need to fuck off