/utg/ - Undertale General

>>167921913
so beautiful

I want to make a baby with Toriel!

>>167922007
I want to be Toriel's cute little boy!

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Edgy gote is edgy

>>167921913
atleast the fucked up hand is covered

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Reminder to walk your favorite

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Dad goat dads you

>>167922129
Which one?

>>167922195
frisk's hand. the thumb is fucked up in the original pic

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Ahuhuhuhu, Hey Human

Wanna have lots of unprotected epigyal sex with me and ejaculate into my spermathecae over and over again?

I'm webbing right now!

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nerds

>>167922315
I don't know what all of that is but yes! I'm in love with you, Muffet!

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>>167922348
cute nerds

>>167922315
no way fag

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>>167922512
yes

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but why

>>167922315
I would hatefuck muffet

>>167923478
I would lovefuck Muffet

>>167923512
I would buttfuck muffet

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cherish bone

>>167923549
I would rip off Muffet's arms while fucking her

>>167923591
Why? The skeletons already get enough love. Stop being selfish and cherish a different character for once

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Chara burpfic?

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>>167923591
They make me so happy

i wish when i posted my favorite i also got 3 or 4 people that also loved them

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Would you plan an office party with your favorite?

>>167923885
who is your favorite? we have a lot of anons who love all the characters

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sans.............................

>>167923885
dadfags are asleep right now

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>>167923965
hell yeah, sans mah boi!

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sans..................................

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>>167924075
>>167924073
>>167923965
snes is tired from all the attention pls no disturb

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dont look

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>>167923885
wanna know what I kinda miss?

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>>167924268

I think this thread needs to be euthanized

>>167924458
Woah, totally edgy my little girl!

>>167922315
not a chance, fancypants

>>167925123
I'd sample her creamy buns

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>>167924308

so what's your favorite AU? what's your favorite sans?

>>167925523
It depends on what Au's are allowed, I suppose.

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>>167925523

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>>167925523
Underfell
canon Sans

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>>167925523
The Gasterblaster AU and Gb!Sans!

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>>167925523
I like a good chunk of them but underswap and underfell are my favs bc they're flexible for interpretation

>>167925734
Thumbnail always looks like he's shredding a guitar, it's great

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Genopied route best route

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>>167926048
I have a picture of that actually

i wanna squeeze asriel until he bleats

i wanna squeeze asriel until he bleeds

i want asriel to squeeze me until i bleed

in his stomach

i want asriel to squeeze me until i bleed

in his massive shotacock

Flowey/Asriel scares the shit out of me when you really step back and realize the sheer scale of what he did and the philosophical implications of resets

>>167927040
Agreed. It's horrifying how much control a person with Determination can have over the universe.

Which Undertales have mutliated assholes?

>>167927267
toriel

>>167927267
what the fuck?

Would you still love your favorite if they were 8 and had a mutilated asshole?

>>167927396
what the FUCK?

>>167927396
yes

Would you still love your favorite if they were 8 and couldn't stop screaming?

>>167927623
yes

Would you still fuck your favorite if they were 8?

>>167927870
male chara is garbage, jesus

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>>167926729
do this
>>167926831
don't do this
>>167927003
no

Would you still love your favorite if they were 8 and mutilated your asshole and squeezed you until you bleated?

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>>167927978
What's wrong with male Chara?

>>167927978
thats a girl

>>167928062
i want all of that except the bleating so yes

>>167928074
In my mind only a girl could be dumb enough to kill herself by eating to get revenge on other people.

>>167928113
Look at those massive muscles. That's a guy. Huge jaw too. the manliest Chara to ever exist.

>>167928115
What about your favorite bleating as they mutilated your asshole with their massive cock?

>>167927040
This gets exceptionally 'hilarious' when you consider how many times players have destroyed the lives of everyone, just to replay a particular fight, or to prove/disprove a theory.

Not to mention depending on your philosophical view, even continuing from death is fucking evil, since you destroy the version of the characters who would have lived on with Frisk's death.

>>167928165
still no on the bleating.

>>167928218
So who is your favorite?

>>167928195
Oh look, it's sorielfag's headcanon.

>>167928331
Wow, I've finally reached the point of getting called Soriel, and I did it without trying to pick a fight with any characterfag, unless 'playerfag' is not a separate category.

That's gotta be worthy of a medal.

>>167928218
no comment but it isnt a gote

>>167928482
Citate the game then.

Assgore Fags are bad

>>167928553
meant for >>167928297

>>167928558
What?

>>167928482
At least you admit it's just your headcanon.
>>167928558
He didn't say it's canon. Don't try to pick up a fight.

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>>167928553
>>167928623
Well obviously. Who is it though? I want to think how they could sound trying to bleat.

>>167928706
I didn't post >>167927040, I was just replying to it by running the same idea

>>167928782
>I didn't post >>167927040
What does that matter?

>>167928039
wow, someone sane who knows the goat is for hugs and not for weird fetishes. we're a rare species around here.

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>>167928331
you are aware that its a legitimate philosophical issue right? You can't just dismiss it because a shit poster was using it especially when its been a very controversial and common idea in scifi for decades

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>>167928761
Not him but now I can imagine gaster bleating. lel

>>167928945
Citate your evidence or stop picking up fandom headcanons as canon.

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>>167928982
evidence of what? Its a philosophical idea, a thought experiment about the nature of consciousness and of the soul

>>167928982
That's why it's philosophical, it's not proven one way or another. If the world's continue, then practically any act of reset or loading is genocide. If they just end immediately, still bad, just differently. Best we've got is Sans talking about other timelines or other Sanses, but hell even knows what exactly he means or if he's even just jesting to some extent.

>>167929031
>>167929087
>evidence of what?
>>167928195
>destroyed the lives of everyone
Remember that since toby has confirmed TP to be the happiest possible ending which requires a reset and that couldn't be happy if your initial supposition was correct. Since you have no evidence to support it, the whole philosophical question is done on incorrect assumption basis, making it null.

>>167929087
>If the world's continue
It's suggested they never do. That's what sans talks about when he says the timelines come to an end during his genocide fight. There is also never suggestion of multiple worlds, just one with various timelines that can be rewinded through loading and resetting.

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I think I like this robot more than I should.

>>167929289
In what way do you like him?

>>167929160
>Remember that since toby has confirmed TP to be the happiest possible ending
I agree, though you will have people claim the Q&A isn't canon

>and that couldn't be happy if your initial supposition was correct
If you kick a tree and an apple falls down while you're looking at it, or a couple seconds after you've turned around, it will still have happened, whether you perceived it or not. Not proof of course, just saying that Frisk or Flowey not knowing that doesn't necessarily mean it ain't happening, but since time travel and multiple worlds are already very much theories to begin with, I couldn't get you anything factual even if I tried.

>It's suggested they never do. That's what sans talks about when he says the timelines come to an end during his genocide fight.
I kinda thought that he may have meant the world destruction afterwards, though that would suggest a stable time loop or some other type of muddy concept.

I'm not invested in making any character look better or worse, I just like running ideas like this.

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>>167929160
I don't think there is anything wrong with questioning the nature of resets even if its not something that Toby really felt like going into. Its an interesting idea even if theres not a canon awnser
>>167929248
>It's suggested they never do.
See I personally find that even more fucked up because it pretty much kills that version of that person forever but i'm a firm believer in the idea that memories are a huge part of what makes a person a person and that brain wiping someone is pretty much the same as killing them

Obviously i'm not a fan of Soriels shit posting ways but I do agree with his view of Asriel to a certain degree. I just don't think he should suffer or be hated

>when he says the timelines come to an end during his genocide fight
I always took this as talking about the part where Chara blows up the universe at the end of genocide

>>167929468
>but I do agree with his view of Asriel to a certain degree
Asriel's actions I mean
I still like him and if anything those ideas make him even more interesting

>>167929468
>>167929539
It's such a weird and disturbing idea when you think about it. It essentially makes movies like Back to the Future a willful act of evil, because changing the past destroys the standard future versions of characters and essentially creates new ones.

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>>167929313
Sexually. Maybe even lovingly.

I want to fuck Chara!

>>167929746
Time Travel is fucked up if its not done in a stable time loop way where you can't actually change anything

>>167929468
>I don't think there is anything wrong with questioning the nature of resets even if its not something that Toby really felt like going into. Its an interesting idea even if theres not a canon awnser
The canon suggests they work in specific way. Undertale is not that deep so trying to look deeper in things not further elaborated will most likely lead you to wrong tracks.
>See I personally find that even more fucked up because it pretty much kills that version of that person forever
Not forever if everything happens just the way it used to. The load/reset is a high power and it's up to you to use it correctly, as Sans suggests.
Once given the ability, you were also in a very different position to use it compared to Flowey who was driven only to malice, while you have the choice to do whatever you please. That's why all the different endings are there.
>>167929420
>just saying that Frisk or Flowey not knowing that doesn't necessarily mean it ain't happening
The point is that nothing in the game suggests or supports the idea. There's not much reason to believe something was the case until you have evidence suggesting it.
Even if it would be possible. "It's not wrong, it's my headcanon" can apply here if you like.
>I'm not invested in making any character look better or worse, I just like running ideas like this.
Other problem with it I have would be that if it really did cause destruction, Sans would be suggesting you to do it as well. It just goes against what the game's whole story suggests, that power like reset/load is as good or bad as its wielder, not inherently destructive.

>>167929746
of course >>167929818 is also fucked up because then you have to question the nature of free will since it implies we have none

Time travel is just fucked up in general
>>167929850
>Undertale is not that deep so trying to look deeper in things not further elaborated will most likely lead you to wrong tracks.
Its still fun and who cares if its not something Toby intended. You can look and judge a work beyond what the creator intended
See almost every time someone talks about a famous written works and its themes
>Not forever if everything happens just the way it used to.
The issue is that you literally can't do that in the game if you get TP. Getting TP at the very least permanently changes the monsters memories since Asgore doesn't die and the characters won't grow and change the same way as a result
> It just goes against what the game's whole story suggests, that power like reset/load is as good or bad as its wielder, not inherently destructive.
I thought genocide made it pretty clear that the power is inherently bad and that it corrupts but that's really just a matter of opinon

Excuse me, Toriel

There's a hair in my cake

>>167930189
Oh! my child! you better fucking eat it up, my child!

>>167929850
>that power like reset/load is as good or bad as its wielder, not inherently destructive.
To be fair, you can argue it is both. Resetting technically destroy the progress people have made up to the point of resetting so it's inherently destructive in that sense. You can say a gun is only as good or bad as its wielder, but at the very core it has only destrucive purpose.
>Once given the ability, you were also in a very different position to use it compared to Flowey who was driven only to malice, while you have the choice to do whatever you please. That's why all the different endings are there.
To also be fair, the state you start out in is one where Flowey hasn't done anything besides likely hung out with Papyrus, so we're still at a neutral baseline from an overall standpoint.

>>167930068
>I thought genocide made it pretty clear that the power is inherently bad and that it corrupts but that's really just a matter of opinon
The old 'power and absolute power' distinction applies as usual, though at least the reset ability does require the wielder to give up some of their own progress as well. It's a frightening kind of power though and I'm not surprised Flowey, lacking the empathy and being essentially a traumatized child, went down possibly the worst path.

Though not gonna lie, running a scenario where Flowey didn't remain passive and Frisk falls during a time where he's essentially in control of everything and the Underground is one huge corrupted forest, would be cool.

>>167930068
>Its still fun
Speculating sure is, until someone goes "X and Y were so evil and bad" because they start considering it canon. I'm still not against speculation but I do hate it when people can't properly categorize it. Just look at how much people on Tumblr consider Chara innocent, abused or whatever when really we just know next to nothing about them.
>Getting TP at the very least permanently changes the monsters memories since Asgore doesn't die and the characters won't grow and change the same way as a result
That's the idea. Is there a reason why preserving the timeline exactly as it first happened would be important? People often assume this but I don't see much valid reason for it.
Meanwhile, if you change things for the better overall, have you done anything wrong? Maybe some new negative things ended up happening as a result, but the option is still better overall.
>I thought genocide made it pretty clear that the power is inherently bad and that it corrupts
No, genocide is about the power of LOVE, which is almost inherently negative as you kill for your own power and in the process distance yourself. You can complete genocide without ever touching or knowing about load/reset. The two powers are completely separate.

>>167930213
IT'S IN MY THROAT AND I CAN'T GET IT OUT

>>167930321
>Resetting technically destroy the progress people have made up to the point of resetting so it's inherently destructive in that sense.
On the flipside it also lifts off the weight and frustrations of having to have worked up to that point.
>You can say a gun is only as good or bad as its wielder, but at the very core it has only destrucive purpose.
The american sentimentality of guns being used to "protect" is obviously wrong and the device never had any purpose beyond destorying its target.
It can't bring back anyone to life, for example. Going back in time can. That's why they're inherently different and shouldn't be compared.
>To also be fair, the state you start out in is one where Flowey hasn't done anything besides likely hung out with Papyrus
I mean how you're a whole, normal person capable of full emotional range when Flowey is not.

>>167921913
I've been away for a while, what's the story behind this pic?

>>167930345
>Speculating sure is,
Yeah, I do agree on that. It's much better if one at least remains aware of what's in the game actually vs what's assumed, even if it's not entirely explained in the game. Tumblr Chara is probably the worst offender of that, unfortunately.
>The two powers are completely separate.
People often seem to assume the LOVE=superpowers, though it's likely that it's only a hard counter to monsters and the very first human on the surface could bash your head in with a shovel no problem. Unless it works like Highlander.

>>167930537
>It can't bring back anyone to life, for example. Going back in time can. That's why they're inherently different and shouldn't be compared.
Agreed, should have said balanced instead, since while it may bring back someone's dad from the death, it may also destroy the son's resolve and result of becoming a world-class neurosurgeon because if this. Depends on how you look at it, I guess.
>I mean how you're a whole, normal person capable of full emotional range when Flowey is not.
I'm sorry, I phrased that badly. I meant that the current state of events Frisk falls in is one where Flowey hasn't technically caused harm to anyone.

>>167930345
>Speculating sure is, until someone goes "X and Y were so evil and bad" because they start considering it canon.
I never really said that but I do personally consider Asriels actions as evil just like I consider Asgores actions as evil. I'm still okay with Asriel and Asgore is still my favorite but you can think someone did some fucked up shit and still like them, or even beyond that if someone doesn't like Asriel or Asgore because of their actions then that's also valid. Its a matter of opinion
>Is there a reason why preserving the timeline exactly as it first happened would be important?
I wouldn't personally want to be replaced by a slightly different version of me because as far as i'm concerned I am the sum of my experiences. If you go back and change something radical about me then that version is no longer really me. Its just a slightly different copy.
This is a pretty common idea when it comes to time travel and its why some people just go fuck it and go with a multiverse theory because it really is the lesser of two evils
>Maybe some new negative things ended up happening as a result, but the option is still better overall.
Yeah but who gives you the right to decide which version is worth more? Shouldn't that person from the bad timeline have as just as much right rto exist as the other version?

Compare it to the queen Undyne version. Shes likely changed quite a bit from the person she use to be considering the things that shes now willing to do. Why doesn't that version deserve to exist? Because its not as happy as the TP Undyne? Picking and choosing like that is kind of fucked up

>You can complete genocide without ever touching or knowing about load/reset.
Yeah you could do it all in one try but that's clearly not the intention considering all the Sans content that exist when you die

>>167930780
someone edited chara out and then took requests to make the pic "better"
it happened last thread if you want to see

good night

>>167930836
>>167930784
>>167930537
>>167930345
>>167930321
>>167930068
This isn't even about Undertale anymore. Take it to /lit/

GETTING SWOLE FOR THE GOAT

>>167931462
>every single post contains Undertal stuff
>dead hours
>take it to /lit/

please be just a little less obvious

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Goodnight thread

>>167931462
I was getting bored of the conversation anyways

>>167931678
This general is for characterfagging not morality debates. Fuck off

>>167930784
I think the actual mechanics of LOVE aren't as important as what it tries to convey. The more cruel and evil you are to people and the more you take advantage of them the easier it keeps getting. Even when there's something to be gained what you lose is more important in the end.
>Depends on how you look at it, I guess.
I think the best way to look at it is that it just changes the situation. It's your actions afterwards that really determine if it was for good or bad. Even if someone misses an opportunity and you couldn't predict that change, someone else might get one as a result. There is certain kind of balance in the world. That's why the will to do good or bad is what ultimately solves if what you did was justified or not.
>>167930836
>Asriels actions as evil just like I consider Asgores actions as evil
The comparison is difficult, but there's also the fact that Asgore killed people knowing they would stay dead, even if he didn't like it. Flowey started causing havoc like that(we don't know exactly what) only after he knew he could also bring it all back. I doubt he cared much and did it out of his personal feelings, but the difference exists nevertheless.
There's no one to feel truly angry or vengeful towards him but he still feels the impacts of his actions in the end, and even if all his wrongdoings ended up getting cancelled he's a soulless flower.
Just like your murders get forgiven if you cancel them, I would say his could as well. It doesn't help though because he's gone and can't be saved, not even if he ended up forgiving himself which he doesn't do anyways
>I am the sum of my experiences.
If you inspect what would happen this wouldn't change anywhere. Where you are now is a result of a lot of chance. It doesn't really matter how those chances actually go.
The important part to humanity is that we're result of our own unique experience, not that that unique experience went in some specific way because you can never fully control that.

>>167931772
I was wrong, you can actually be pretty funny sometimes.

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>>167931685
good night bones

Will the Undertale characters ever go on a long road trip? I wanna see them.

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>>167931917

>>167931863
>trying to trick me into a morality debate
Yeah fuck this

>>167931863
>Just like your murders get forgiven if you cancel them
Nobody forgives you for killing them. They just don't know you killed them

Would you still love your fave if they were 8 but still acted like they were 6 because of the abuse

>>167930836
>Yeah but who gives you the right to decide which version is worth more? Shouldn't that person from the bad timeline have as just as much right rto exist as the other version?
Since neither has any more right either way you shouldn't prefer eitehr one based on that kind of judgement.
Someone might live poor their whole life and tell themselves eventually that it was the life they chose. If you would rewind time and deus ex machina an opportunity in their life to live a better life with education, more friends, better health and higher level of happiness as a result, which do you really think is better?

Especially in american culture "who we are" is overemphasized to the point where it's harmful to people and others around them because it's brought to a point that it squanders "who we can be". Go for a neutral ending if you think what you like about it is more important and you've done nothing wrong but consider what you missed by not putting yourself on the line on some level and never reaching TP ending as a result. This is the sort of lesson the game focuses a lot on, even if sacrificing some part of your current identity is not there, I would say it's easily worth it if it means you could become a better person.

>>167932117
yes

>>167932105
Asriel knows though.

>>167932041
It is wise to only play a game you know you could win.

>>167932205
Thats a personal opinion. What if someone took you right now and told you that because you crossed the sidewalk when you were 6 your life isn't what its suppose to be so now you'll have to be erased from existence and replaced with a different person that is happier

That is literally what your example boils down to. Its an incredibly selfish point of view not to mention flawed as fucked because in undertale its not a choice and is being forced on you

>>167932313
Sorry for having an opinion

I can't tell if someone is falseflagging or if someone really thinks that Asgore did worse than Flowey.

No one really believes that, right?

>>167932331
>What if someone took you right now and told you that because you crossed the sidewalk when you were 6 your life isn't what its suppose to be so now you'll have to be erased from existence and replaced with a different person that is happier
I'd make the switch instantly.
Just because our current reality makes us likely to hold onto everything we know tightly doesn't mean we would think the same if rules about it could be broken.
I'm not sentimental enough to think I couldn't be happy in different life or that it couldn't be better for me but also others.
>Its an incredibly selfish point of view
On the contrary. Refusing change even if it could make people around you much happier or the world a better place is what is selfish.
>not to mention flawed as fucked because in undertale its not a choice and is being forced on you
The mentality of protag is not your own and they don't carry your name either. Remember what happens when you force it until "It's me, *****." ?

>>167932596
>I'd make the switch instantly.
Its not a switch. You're being replaced with a completely different person. In your example your forcing a bunch of people to no longer exist because they happened to end up in the wrong timeline

If you honestly don't see how fucked that is then I can't help you

>>167932521
Flowey's more evil and Asgore made six more bodybags. Eh.
>>167932395
>sorry for having an opinion that's so important to me I'm unwilling to debate it
I'm the one who feels sorry for you.

>>167932658
>Its not a switch. You're being replaced with a completely different person.
Still yes. I can't put my importance over many other people's.
If you can't see how causing even more harm and destruction just to make way to your own existence and few others you now happen to like is wrong then congrats, you're just another hypocrite designed for survival but still thinks they're good for it.

>>167932768
By that logic you can justly anything evil.
Hell by that logic Asgore killing the kids was a good thing since it resulted in the most positive net gain of happiness and ended the best for everyone involved because TP is the best possible timeline

Asgore nipple vore when?

>>167932521
The two shouldn't be compared to begin with.

>>167932596
>I'd make the switch instantly.
Man, that's a really easy thing to say in hypothetical, but it's the death of you. You can argue the american view is too self-centric, but even when people were to be given another chance, they'd want to carry over who they are, their thoughts, their feelings. It's an incredibly nihilistic view of yourself and every single person who has ever existed. If snapping a finger were enough
>On the contrary. Refusing change even if it could make people around you much happier or the world a better place is what is selfish.
Do you have absolutely no value in your own existence?

>>167932768
What the fuck man.
>If you can't see how causing even more harm and destruction just to make way to your own existence and few others you now happen to like is wrong then congrats, you're just another hypocrite designed for survival but still thinks they're good for it.
Please seek help. You're way past arguing any kind of greater good, you're making justification for self-sacrifice for any possible reason and to the extent of self-destruction.

>>167933015
Oh thank god i'm not the only one who thought that guy was fucked up

>>167932865
You don't need to justify it to deal with it or do it. All life takes away from each other to keep ensure their survival. Competition is not wrong, but the opposing sides will forever seek to topple each other.
Asgore is a monster, so from his standpoint it was always right to kill the kids if it helped, and from standpoint of humans someone else killed some of them for their own survival and they would have fought back if they could have. It's not wrong, just harmful to both sides.

>>167933221
You might actually be a sociopath

>>167933015
>Man, that's a really easy thing to say in hypothetical, but it's the death of you.
Man, is it so hard to accept that someone's actually ready to die?
>It's an incredibly nihilistic view of yourself and every single person who has ever existed.
Since you argued that impossible things were possible, I'm definitely going to argue that it would be very different world view would be completely valid in that scenario. You just can't differentiate what's part of a hypothetical scenario and how reality works.

What the fuck is going on

>>167933015
>You're way past arguing any kind of greater good
How? Think how much happier others could be if someone could sacrifice their own comfort or what they personally want to become far more capable and helpful. Like for example becoming a doctor instead of gamer or banker who employs thousands instead of artist.

>>167931863
>If you inspect what would happen this wouldn't change anywhere. Where you are now is a result of a lot of chance. It doesn't really matter how those chances actually go.
>The important part to humanity is that we're result of our own unique experience, not that that unique experience went in some specific way because you can never fully control that.
This makes no sense

>>167933307
I'll take insults for realizing you're wrong for 10, thanks.

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>>167933510
we've transcended Undertale and are now debating the merits of freewill

I think

>>167933535
We end up as unique as we are no matter how things actually go. Someone arguing that world being just the way it is being the only correct way has no basis.

>>167933328
>Man, is it so hard to accept that someone's actually ready to die?
Then don't assume that everyone who doesn't want to is just hardwired for survival and causes harm and destruction.
>Since you argued that impossible things were possible, I'm definitely going to argue that it would be very different world view would be completely valid in that scenario. You just can't differentiate what's part of a hypothetical scenario and how reality works.
An impossible scenario was argued, not the idea that everyone thinks the same way.

>>167933221
The only wrench in that is that Asgore clearly considers it wrong and actively had to justify it to himself. Just as Asriel considered attempted indiscriminate mass murder wrong despite the standpoint being 'right' and stopped Chara.

>>167933526
>How? Think how much happier others could be if someone could sacrifice their own comfort or what they personally want to become far more capable and helpful.
I think there might be something seriously off in your mind if you don't think that sounds incredibly creepy and disturbing.

>>167933631
Oh
Lame

>>167933674
oh in that case then you're full of bullshit
By your logic if we took you and replaced the last 10 years of your life with one where you were beaten and raped every single day while being forced to kill others you would still end up the same person

hint: you wouldn't

>>167933696
>Then don't assume
It's not what I assumed but I would argue that most people would rather do evil than perish and that it makes perfect sense. The point is, it doesn't make them good.
>incredibly creepy and disturbing
Welcome to the real world.

So is Asriel evil or not

>>167933756
Not at all, it would just be an example of what can make resets evil.

>>167933965
You are aware that you're auguring that its morally okay to kill off thousands of people if they can be replaced with happier versions of those people, right?

>>167934025
You are aware that you're not actually killing anyone, just changing everyone's life from one point or another.

>>167934126
But those changes are resulting in a very different person existing. For all intenet and purposes the old version of them is dead

>>167934162
If that was true then we're already killing off different versions of ourselves with every choice and change we make regardless because we would have been slightly different if we did things slightly differently. Your assumption about that is wrong though.

>>167934162
resets are not killing the reset versions of someone in undertale, anon
otherwise every reset would be a genocide run

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>>167933927
Flowey is evil and Asriel is not.
That's why I like Flowey more.
>>167934307
Don't forget loads, too.

>>167934304
>If that was true then we're already killing off different versions of ourselves with every choice and change we make regardless because we would have been slightly different if we did things slightly differently.
No because you aren't going back and changing things. They don't exist until you force them to by changing something.
>>167934307
>otherwise every reset would be a genocide run
>implying they aren't

>>167934395
>No because you aren't going back and changing things. They don't exist until you force them to by changing something.
That's what reset/load does though, it makes things never exist.
>>implying they aren't
TP Frisk confirmed for genocider?

You just have to admit that this is your headcanon if you want to keep it but I think the point is pretty clear by now.

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REAL
MKID
HOURS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw054AF0pXs

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hello goodbye

>>167934530
>but I think the point is pretty clear by now.
That i'm right? Because you haven't said anything to convince me otherwise
>That's what reset/load does though, it makes things never exist.
If you honestly can't see the difference in actively forcing something to not exist as oppose to it just naturally not occurring then I don't think I can help you

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>>167934546
handless mutant friend
>>167934578
no don't go this is crazy but fun

>>167934395
>>implying they aren't
Please point me to the part in-game that portrays them this way.

>>167934690
Instead of being dumb go back and reread through the entire post chain.

>>167934597
>Resets and loads are not natural! They should not be a part of this world!
In Undertale they're just as much a natural part of the world as anything else, so is determination that makes them possible. I'm not really interested in convincing a religious nut either.
>>167934690
Like I initially said I remember this being sorielfag's headcanon at least so it's probably not worth it either way with how he ignores canon.

>>167934827
>I'm not really interested in convincing a religious nut either.
So I win? Sweet good to know. You should really get some help though since you clearly have zero self worth since you admired that you wouldn't give a fuck if you died as long as it made people happier. That's not a healthy mindset to have

>>167934827
I guess they're just gonna ignore anything they don't agree with and go "I win" or something.

>>167934942
I'll just take it you agree and didn't want to, but I see you not trying to argue with what I said either.
>>167934995
lol

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>>167934621
I've got places to be, I just like posting a picture or two in the morning to cheer myself up
sorry

>>167934995
Seriously go read the reply chain and see what the guy you're praising was actually saying. Just because Soriel used the same point does not make it wrong by default. This isn't even about rather Asriel is a good person or not. Hes literally saying that its okay and good to erase people from existing if they can be easily replaced with a happier version of that person despite the fact that the replacement won't be the same person because they won't have had the same forming experiences
>>167935113
I don't agree but you keep going back to well its not in the game! When that's pointless because its an actual debate that transcends Undertale.

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>>167935120
It's what we're here for isn't it
The place rarely sees discussion like this.

>>167935158
>erase people from existing
Actually it was always about just you being unable to prove this is how resets work but whatever.

>>167934827
>Like I initially said I remember this being sorielfag's....
Can we not?
I'm not a part of this discussion, but I hate how almost any discussion can be canceled simply by replying "oh, it's sorielfag" even when it's a good chance it isn't sorielfag.
If the other party is ignorant and isn't open to changing their point of view than I understand not wanting to try to do so, but can we stop calling anyone like that sorielfag?

>>167935158
I humored your ideas about if Undertale didn't work the way it did for a while but it's not really interesting or the real topic here. I get that you'd focus on it just to try and be right about something but so far you've done little beyond being slightly insulting.

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What are the deeper philosophical implications of commoditized snootleboops?

>>167935281
I'm honestly not sure how much more I can dumb this down for you. Whatever it doesn't matter anyways because i'm not trying to convince anyone that anyone else is evil. I was just having fun think about the philosophical implications of resets
>>167935393
What are you talking about? It was the topic from the first post. If anything its the other guy coming in and trying to change it that was off topic

>>167935370
It probably is not him but if it's someone as (You) hungry as him then does it really matter?
>>167935436
>I'm honestly not sure how much more I can dumb this down for you.
You could just try to prove your assumption like asked. Last (You) until you can, just in case.
>>167935430
It's an indulgence of the highest tier.

>>167935370
its the only defense they have. That and trying to change the subject into something completely different

This place is so fucked for anything beyond waifu posting

>>167935549
>You could just try to prove your assumption like asked
Okay you're just trolling now By its very nature its not something that can be proven. Its a philosophical question

Do you not know what that means? There is no right or wrong answer because it comes down to an opinion

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Debate this instead

>defense
Your personal conclusion of me pointing out a fact. Regardless of what either us think it's true that
1. Sorielfag considerd the headcanon that reset/load destroys the timeline instead of rewinding it like the game implies as canon, and
2. Sorielfag hates Undertale fandom and wants it to die out, including /utg/

The need to ask the "philosophical" question you think is so important here relies on the assumption that headcanon presented in 1. is true. Sure, if it is, it can be a very good question whether having enough determination and then dying to return to save point or resetting after you accidentally killed someone was actually the most wrong thing ever to do, but I think it's more important that we establish if that "if" holds true in the first place.
That's what you need to prove.
>>167935957
They don't all sit into nine different alignments.

>>167936086
>it can be a very good question whether having enough determination and then dying to return to save point or resetting after you accidentally killed someone was actually the most wrong thing ever to do
I wasn't ever saying this. I was just musing on how fucked resets are when you take them the their natural conclusion.

Not everyone is trying to pick a fight with you

>>167903315
I can't believe Papyrus is involved in human trafficking for the Los Zetas Cartel!

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night /utg/
You guys have fun with whatever your doing now

>>167937009
Not anymore anon, it's early.

Good morning utg.

>>167929763

Why not both?

>>167936824
>ripping peoples experiences from them and that's pretty fucked up dude
Why? If you change nothing they're going to have those experiences again anyways and they can never tell the difference.
It's not morally great, but I'd say it's better if you can fix something other bad thing. You pretty much do this in Undertale at various spots.
I get why you think it's kind of screwed up thing that someone can do that but in the grand scheme of things I don't think it's inherently worse than many other things and weighed against the potential good it can do, easily justified.

But would the monsters be able to understand that wealth privilege is far more destructive to society as a whole than almost-nonexistant race or gender privilege?

Surely a king who struggled his whole life to unify and protect his people would sympathize more with the common man than the millionaire talking heads that pretense to speak for the real proletariat?

>>167936320
I'm just arguing here for sake of entertainment, I don't consider this stuff negative until someone purposefully or just out of lack of understanding starts to repeat their opinion without even taking into consideration what I said. It can be result of either cognitive dissonance or just trolling which is not worth anyone's time here trying to get over and it's actually better to just dismiss that.
When you ignore a whole argument and just focused on what I said about you in one post instead it really seems like former.
>>167937947
Probably not because they still use gold. Rich people aren't really the problem, selfish and stupid people are, just especially so when they get a lot of money.

>>167937947
Asgore canonically cut funding to schools, hospitals and orphanages to subsidize his program to put the children into the workforce as his personal harem to give them practical skills

>>167938112
A few stupid people led by scheming and delusional rich """""socialists""""" can cause tens of millions of dollars in damage and destroy livelihoods and lives.

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>>167937690
Rise and shine.
>>167938276
Capitalism's not great but the rest is even worse and I think we all know it. Let's not get all /pol/ though.

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Flowey is very cool and secretly it is partly thanks to Papyrus.

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Good morning, /utg/. I hope you all have a good day.

>almost noon and still no sleep

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>>167939484
Ha ha, I got tons of sleeping pills just recently. Expect me to post embarrassing things almost daily from now on.

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>>167939568
Pleas share.

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i love flowey

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>>167940006
You and me both, bub

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>>167940006
>>167940296
Make that three.

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>>167940006
He's okay.

http://dontlookitsfilthy.tumblr.com

>>167940684
Neat, there's criminally little flowisk available in any form

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>>167940684
>it's mfriskXflowey

>>167940794
yea! floweys not a faggot! flowey is powerful alpha who loves to fuck females! he always fucks every female he meets! floweys lust for females unabated!

How would the Undertale characters say when they have to go to the bathroom (if they actually had to)? Match with the proper characters:
>Excuse me, human! But could you wait here till I leave to use the facilities?
>Hey, nerd! I'm leaving for a whizz. Wait here!
>Bro, I'm gonna go to the can. I hope you won't be too pee-occupied about me leaving.
>Sorry, darling! I have to powder my robo-nose! Don't miss me!

i prefer female frisk with flowey
so i can self insert easier

>>167941734
gayyyy

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I still like Flowey with non-specific gender Frisk.
Somehow that's still easier to insert to than just male for me.

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>>167942237
I find this agreeable

>>167942401
Wouldn't Flowey just start making fun of Frisk for thinking that he, a Flower, would have a sex drive or that licking his petals would be "sexy"

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Don't get into a kissing match with Flowey.

You'll lose.

>>167942561
He's a talking magical flower, all bets are off.

Then again, if Frisk kept trying to flirt and embarass him, only for Flowey to constantly respond with "I'm a fucking flower" that would be kind of amusing as well.

>>167925962
Who's Mr. Red-eyes on the far right?

>>167942590
>you get to kiss flowey
>you get to feel his vines wrap around your body
>you get to pass out from the pleasure
>lose

anon what part of that is losing

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>>167942590
I want to lose to Flowey in kissing match.
Why is the idea of kissing him so hot

im gonna vomit

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>>167943379
You have shit fucking taste.

>>167943347
Because he's small, cute, and freaky

>>167943503
no its more of a vomit flavor

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>>167943539
also cool
I kinda like it when he's not drawn too small. Compared to Frisk his face is about not that small compared to their head.

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>>167943720
>That comic
Hoooooooooly shit anon if that' a crop you best be sharin'.

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>>167943846
I wish I had source, but I saved it from here.

>>167944114
Oh wait, yandex is a thing. My bad.
http://rule34-data-002.paheal.net/_images/4ce244c29a293456395a54560d4f07b0/1721925%20-%20Undertale%20Flowey.jpg

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>>167944190

>>167942925
Dusttale Sans, korean AU. Basically, Sans goes fucking nuts and decides to murder everyone to out-level the human. His delusions manifest as a disembodied Papyrus head following him.

>>167943347
just the idea of floweys tongue forcefully pushing against yours, as his tongue enters your mouth. oh fuck..

>>167944650
there's a fic like that in the writebin sequel when

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dont look

>>167944360
korea wtf

>>167944360
heh papyrus is a stand

>>167944360
Interesting idea but I don't think I could see sans actually doing it.

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>>167944963

>>167944963
Unfortunately, iirc, it turns out he was just imagining him, as a guilt-projection kinda thing

Is Toby Fox an Anime fan?

>>167945176
so whats the deal with jotaro's hat?

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>>167944963

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>>167945431
It's a parasite that attaches to his hair and feeds off of his sweat

It's why you rarely see him sweat and how he keeps a cool head at all times

>>167945492
dont give me shit im watching it cuz of you nerds
>>167945693
this makes perfect sense

>>>/v/366995862

>>167945783
Why would that anon do that?
Go on the internet and tell lies?

>>167945884
Why not?

>>167945783
>all fur fags
kek you know when anon hasn't visited /utg/

>>167946020
Lying is bad anon.

>>167945884
Oh he's not lying I remember that. I think it was... October, or something? Either way
>>167945783
Why are you linking this shit, you're derailing both threads.

>>167946067
Literally everything is a lie.

>>167946238
YOU'RE LIVING A LIE

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Ring that bell
IT'S EDGELORD SKEL... DUMMY

>>167946469
>This English

Who else loved the scene where Sans ate Frisk's school lunch and this caused Frisk's diabetes to flare up at school and they had to be hospitalized and Sans just laughed as if the whole thing was a joke

>>167946510
>dummy
you'll summon them you fool

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>>167947474
that was my favorite because she still forgave him after

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Page 9 Mompost

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Britannia rules the waves

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>>167948783
I really love that mother.

https://youtu.be/SpqO_VHiKHw

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>>167949020
What about this mother

When does Mettaton pose with his legs crossed and a hand between his legs?

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I love this fish.

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Would you accept a cat from this dad?

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>>167949382
Your fish is getting stale

>>167949496
Lies and slander

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>>167949245
She's bretty cute.

Who the fuck is sans?

>>167950556
font

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>>167950556
orb

>>167950556
WHO KILLED SANS

>>167950789

Damn that Who. I always knew they were the muscle behind the Five W's.

>>167944821

This actually works for me.

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>>167950789

So I thought I knew all the Sanses but now I'm seeing stuff like Mafia!Palette and Shopkeeper!Goth ship art and now I'm sitting here wondering whether it is me or the children who are out of touch

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>>167950789
Present.
>>167952272
It never ends.

>>167952272
Welcome to the multiverse.

hi, i just finished the game with the true pacifist ending and i like the idea of everyone staying happy so i wanted to copy my savegame and put it on a thumbdrive so everyone can stay there happy forever but i've read that the game doesn't use one save location, it saves to registry, exe etc.
what would i have to copy to save my entire progress so i can restore it later?

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>>167947609

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>>167948939
>sailor boy asriel
I want it
I want it

>>167952779
goddamn it you're late

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>>167952917
Better than never here I'd say.

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Order your goatdad today

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>>167953145
true

anon its me, your father

>>167953734
Who?

>>167949434
yes

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Don't look, even if there's Frisk tittu

>>167953953
i looked specifically because of frisk tittu

>>167954758
I looked and I have no regrets.

>>167954758
I shouldn't have looked

>>167954758
tfw you will never reduce your fave's expression to one of idiotic bliss

>>167955575
She looks like she's in pain

>>167955680
why not both

>>167955680
>ywn put her through extreme sexual pain causing her to question herself and your relationship

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its a bit quiet

>>167957360
we're dead

I request that you lend me your cutest Undertale image in my time of need.

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>>167957682

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>>167957682

>>167932898
thanks anon

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>>167957682

Opportunistic cousinposting.

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>>167957682

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>>167957682
nerds are cute

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>>167959038
I agree

>Gryffindor
Undyne
Frisk?
Papyrus? (or Hufflepuff)

>Hufflepuff
All the goats
Papyrus? (or Gryffindor)

>Ravenclaw
Sans
Alphys

>Slytherin
Mettaton
Chara

>>167959315
where flower

>>167959373
He is goat now.

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How do Mettaton 's legs make you feel?

>>167959456
hot hot leg leg leg so hot you can fry an egg

i wanna hug and cuddle big and smol asriels

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Wow...
Why is this thread so dead?

>>167957682
Here you go.

>>167944821
I regret nothing!

>>167959953
Weekdays, it's usually more busy during the weekends

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>>167959591
Sounds like the sort of stress relief I could go for right now.

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Chara did NOTHING wrong

>>167959953

Happy Friday. I'm glad you posted that pic. I was torn between it and the one I did actually use at. >>167958175


be seeing you utg. Enjoy the weekend.

>>167960795
See you later, anon.
Have fun!

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Frisk must have a good view.

>>167957819
>>167957834
>>167958175
>>167958552
>>167959038
>>167959953
Thanks.

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>>167961195
No problem.