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Homestead Edition

>Official news
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2017/01/31/the-elder-scrolls-online-morrowind--announcement-and-details
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2017/01/18/homestead-launch-dates
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2017/01/04/crown-store-showcase--january-4th-2017

>Latest ESO Live
https://www.twitch DOT tv/videos/117763621

>Latest patch notes
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/307930/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-6-11
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes

>PTS patch notes
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/311708/pts-patch-notes-v2-7-0-homestead/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/315794/pts-patch-notes-v2-7-3

>Builds and Guides
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WsLK2mOCvIePLUxW_X7CPa7uT072x3FJEzY7yyN1hXA/edit [New Player's Guide]
http://pastebin.com/Y9vRAcwm (embed) - Alcast/Deltia Guides

>Online lore, map and general info
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://esomap.uesp.net/
http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Online
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com

>UI addons for PC
http://esoui.com/addons.php
http://minion.mmoui.com/

>Assorted links
eso-rp.com
http://esoacademy.com/
http://eso-fashion.com/
http://eso-styles.faerylands.eu/
https://tamrieltradecentre.com/

>Sales and deals
http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html (authorized reseller)

>/tesog/ Guilds
[PC NA] mail (not whisper) @Foskl or @the_kyrox for invite
[PC EU] mail (not whisper) @Hatebr33d3r for invite
[PS4 NA and EU] message PSN: kibukj for invite
[XB1 NA] message GT: Arick556x45 for invite

>Platform poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10281492

>Discord:
https://discord.gg/ffn6JqN

>Is this game worth playing?
Y
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>>167706016
big bisexual monster
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So how is all the DLC stuff?
I only have the main game. Am I still able to experience shit without missing out on too much while leveling? Is the DLC stuff mostly inbetween fun content or endgame stuff?
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>>167706016
ur nan xd
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>>167706274
it's worth it if you're a dedicated player imo. you're not going to be missing out on stuff though simply bc you don't have it. the dlc is pretty optional in this game and that's what i like about it.

my advice is to play the game a bit and see if you like it, and if you do, buy the dlc for story purposes.
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Black Rose is dead?
Can use Black Rose in PvE?
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>log into old Beta account and pre-purchase Morrowind Digital
>Morrowind Digital says it includes Tamriel Unlimited
>download and install game
>put in credentials exactly as they are on the website
>Login Failed

>Contact customer support
>DID YOU TRY RESETTING YOUR PASSWORD?

I want a refund.
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>>167707131
Refund Morrowind, it only allows access to the base game come June. Buy the base game and pre-order the addon package or whatever it is if you want. It's actually less that way.
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So how is the healing and tanking in this game? From what I remember only templars and sorcerors were viable healers, and I have no idea about tanks. Apparently now everyone can do anything?
Also what about skill points. Do I eventually get enough to be able to fulfill multiple roles or am I always locked to the one I chose?
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>Log in, start some dolmen farming on my DK
>Within 2 hours, get seventh legion soldier sword, shield, and 3 pieces of jewelry
>MFW
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>>167706274

Orsinium is just another storyline, it's pretty good but it's not going to change your world too much, but there is daily repeatable quests in the zone, there is also a solo arena dungeon as well that people like for the challenge and BiS weapons.

Imperial city is PVE in a PVP zone, you might find it fun, but it's not for me personally. There is also some dungeons that come with it though.

There's also another 2 dungeon pack, which, unless you really need to do those 2 dungeons, it's not really a big deal.

NOW

Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood? Those are game changing. Not only do they add new content to do, but they add game changing elements. If you want to be a dick ass thief that steals things, thieves guild adds a passive skill line that makes it better, reduced bounty timers, the ability to get out of an arrest without paying a bounty once a day, reduced guard detection range, the ability to use footpads to teleport to an outlaw refuge, also, and this is not part of the passive skill line but just in the world stuff, the ability to loot thieves guild caches in the wild all over the world, assassin's creed like hiding spots, special heist missions and other dick ass thievery dailies, and most importantly, clemency writs that let you erase bounty from your inventory without having to actually pay the bounty.

Now if you want to be a dick ass thief that stabs people in the dick, Dark Brotherhood is good too, not only does it add a passive skill line that reduces bounties from assaults and murders (and reduces aggro from enemies while you're on your mount, gives a speed boost after killing an innocent citizen, etc), but it introduces the blade of woe mechanic which allows you to instantly and silently 1 hit KO humanoids (you get 1/4 of normal xp, and I think the loot changes to stolen fencable items only instead of normal loot), also daily black sacrament quests that are like heists, and disguises that can make guards ignore you for 5 minutes
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>>167707813
stones make skill points negligible, it's easy to have enough

fuck you if you play some NB or DK healer tbqh there's no reason for it, there's already a million ways to differentiate yourself
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>>167707813
You can get enough skill points to do a lot of different things on one character, but due to how skill bars, equipment and attributes work you can only do one at a time, so you'll have to change your skills (nad likely gear) to change roles and if it's dramatic enough, like going from a swordsman to a healer you're going to have to reset attribute points at a shrine in a capital city because the attribute distribution for being a melee DPS is the opposite of one for a healer (who are always magicka-based).

>>167708657
>fuck you if you play some NB or DK healer tbqh there's no reason for it, there's already a million ways to differentiate yourself
Unless he's doing trials there's no reason to get autistic about roles either, tbqh.
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Can I apply a Gold Edition code to an already existing account to get access to all the DLC content? Because it seems like a nice deal especially since you can get it pretty cheap from keysellers.
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>>167709990
Not sure, but if you don't already have the game the gold edition is double the price (24ish USD) of the base game with a free mount and 25 dollars worth of DLC
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>No Nibenese style houses

Whats the point?
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is TESO actually as ugly as it looks like? I watched some streams while downloading, and holy damn it looks disgusting.

its not the image quality of the streams, but the colors are so weak, the landscapes is extremely boring and empty, basically next to zero foliage anywhere and the animations/models looked like some freshman did them in blender..

Is it always like that?
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>>167711662
Example and where is the stream, the graphics could've been decreased to increase frame rates
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>>167712121
basically any of them

i also googled a little and it seems the game has the same shadow stripping as skyrim, is that true?
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>>167711662
>>167712237
I'm running a 1070 and a 7700k, give me a moment and I'll grab you some screenshots of the game at max everything
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>>167711662
Fullscreens not working but here's a windowed one
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Oh actually here's one I did earlier today in my screenshots folder
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Anyone have that image to increase the quality through the game .ini configuration.
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>>167713423
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How should I DPS as a mag sorc in PvE? I primarily play PvP. Currently I just go heavily animation cancelled curse-crushing shock-procced frags and mages fury spam when they fell below the threshold. Should I use those meme dots like Lightning Splash?
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I want warden so bad. I would even donate another 60$ to play it right now.
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Is the Shadow of Hist stuff worth it? I just got the Gold Edition pretty cheaply Will I even really run them before I'm near max level?
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>>167714404
>Will I even really run them before I'm near max level?

lol no
CP 160 or death
at the very minimum
t. never run them but has an informed opinion
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>>167715015
As someone who has run them you can definitely run normal mode below 160.

It's only vet mod that is 160 or death. But there's zero reason to run vet in general blow level 45 so, y'know.
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>>167711662
>ugly
What would you say if you were to play runescape or wow or other old shit? It's not ugly at all by MMO means, it's among the prettiest.
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I just sold enchanting writ for 23k, good deal? I don't even have a house now and don't want to spend Kutas for legendary glyphs
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>Do my crafting dailies
>Tempering alloy
>Dreugh Wax
>Metal survey, netting 124 orihalic ore
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are daggers at all viable in pvp? between lag and dodge roll the usability of uppercut makes playing it feel like shit
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>>167713661
Thanks
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>Game is crashing a lot
>Decide to have steam validate files just in case
>Steam decides to uninstall the game and reinstall from scratch
>All 58 gigs of it
Fucking hell m8.
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wtf bound armaments was nerfed? for what fucking reason?
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>>167718586
>Letting Steam validate your files
See you tomorrow
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>try to make lanky gankcat
>game decides to invert the ribcage for some reason

i guess this is my punishment for trying to play khajiit, and now that i've noticed it I can't ignore it. visible in every animation
Maybe i'll just make an obese cat like everyone else
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>>167720204
When you're a twig it's easy to be broken, anon.
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>>167720204

Make a thicc cat so I can pull your tail
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Have they made healing easier in the last 6 months? I haven't played for quite a while, but I distinctly remember it being much more difficult for my DK healer to go through vet dungeons
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>>167720695
what is even with the tail pulling
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Need achievements to buy a house, why?
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>>167722531
For autists that have no life to feel validated.
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>>167722515
Barbes penis
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>>167720124
no kidding, holy shit.
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>>167722690
Disgusting. I'll just wait for DLC houses.
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>still waiting for arick to invite me to the xbox guild

A week goddamn it.
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>>167723449
I think I remember someone saying the xbone guild moved on from eso and started playing gta. This was quite a while ago though.
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>Harpy models actually have vagoos on them
haha oh wow
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>>167723964
Then why the fuck is it still in the op? Man if this is true it's pretty crappy.
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So are there any female only outfits in this game that look significally better than their male counterparts? Considering how most armor looks ugly as fuck and everyone seems to be just so fucking lanky, I honestly doubt it. Maybe I can finally play a male character.
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>>167724215
Armor looks the same on males and females, except theyre stretched differently to fit the models. For example, a white wedding dress from the cash shop on a female character is going to look like a white wedding dress on a male character, except he'll look like a crossdresser.
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>>167724034
I'm calling bs. If they can't give winged twilight's or flame atronachs tits, why would they do it to harpies? Seriously I need images as proof
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>>167724573
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>>167724426
Nice.
I actually do like the fact that there's no apparent slutgear, and characters don't necessarily have to look like they're on fucking steroids.
One other question, how does PvP work in this game? I've read that you don't have to be part of the same alliance to do PvE anymore, but what about PvP? Is it still possible to play with a friend if he's in another alliance or will we be locked out of some content?
Also what about starting areas, is there anything keeping me from just going to someone else's starting area if I want to play together from the beginning?
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>>167724815
There's slut gear mate, lots of it.
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>>167724815
PvP is still alliance-based AFAIK. Albeit you can duel people 1v1. The entire theme around cyrodill is the alliances fighting over territory, so that wont be changing any time soon.

PvE can be done with anyone of any faction now. All the games content is scales up to "max" veteren level so you'll always get gear according to your own level (up to said "max" veteren level) regardless of where you are.
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>>167724730
Ah it's a character. That makes sense. I thought you meant the mobs
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Lore time

Tiber Septim made Cyrodil have a temperate climate using CHIM. He did so long after the events of TES:O, but Cyrodil appears to be temperate during the period of TES:O.

When you attempt the Psijic endeavor and fail, you zero-summ, meaning you cease to exist in the present, future, and past. Therefore, since the powers of CHIM can change events that have already happened, isn't it possible that Tiber Septim changed the climate for all time periods?
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>>167725246
This is the usual hypothesis people have, though others call it a "lazy excuse made up to not model jungles".

I prefer Cyro the way it is now (and then and before).
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What race is most fun for sorcerers? Also, stam or mag?
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>>167725040
Thanks, that does clear things up. Is there any way to get population data on a faction beforehand?
Now the only thing left for me to know is, how important are race choices in this game? It seems that every faction does have at least one race more suitable to magick or stamina based combat. How huge are the differences between the optimal races and the not so optimal ones? Because I honestly don't really feel like also buying that adventurer pack thing just to have some more freedom creating my char.
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>>167725246
We know and apparently CHIM doesn't exist according to some people in this thread.

ESO shits on lore but the eso fanboys don't care, genuine TES fans don't care and you shouldn't care.

For future, if you want to discuss pure Beth TES lore, go to /tg/ and the /tgesg/ thread.
If you want to discuss TES lore in general which includes Michael Kirkbride fanboyism, go to /r/teslore.
And if you want to wank over ESO lore, stay here but be prepared for shit flinging when people get triggered.
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>>167725527
Generally you'd want to go a race that makes sense as to whether you're going magicka or stamina built. For example, Argonians are uniquely good at healing, or playing as a nightblade tank thanks to a passive that increases their healing dealt and recieved as well as a maximum health increase.

IIRC, the race difference isn't too huge though. Some races
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>>167725981
*Some races are good for multiple different builds, and others are optimized for specific niches.
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>>167726170
>someone giving unbiased, proven facts

I never thought I'd see the day
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>>167722531
>He doesn't play the game
???
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Holy shit, people are going absolute bananas over housing recipes. Been selling level 2 and 4 green recipes for 5k a piece. Caught a blue rarity wall mounted fish decoration that I sold for 20k. Person immediately went into zone chat and advertised for 30K. Guildmate sold a purple recipe for 80K. Someone has been buying the basic recipes that you can get from the housing vendor for 90 gold and has been flipping them for 300. I hope this hype lasts for a bit longer, I need to capitalize on the stupidity.
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>>167726170
Different anon here, whats are some good races for someone who doesn't know what build they are gonna end up playing?
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>>167727360
Argonian and Dunmer are the most versatile as they get access to both stamina and magicka through their passives. Argonian gets bonus to health and healing, while Dunmer gets bonus to fire resist/damage
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>>167727360
God-tier:
Altmer, Dunmer, Argonian, Imperial.

High-tier:
Redguard, Orc

Alright-tier:
Khajit, Nord

Awful-tier:
Breton, Bosmer
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>>167727715
>>167727736
thanks!
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>>167727360

Daggerfall Covenant is also the best faction with the best zone quest lines.
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>>167728349
This.
Despite my hatred for frenchies, it's unfortunately true followed by EC and AD as worst.
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>>167711662
t.Skyrim kiddie
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>>167714404
Nope. Even if you're a group that's all max CP it's not a guarantee you'll finish it.
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>>167728937
>doesn't know about the 50gig update released a couple days ago to fix the graphics of skyrim but barely did anything

Anyone that thinks Skyrim looks good needs to be raped by a dog. I'm looking at you mr memer.
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>>167719438
It was?
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>>167725246
>Tiber Septim made Cyrodil have a temperate climate using CHIM.
I hear this claim but I never understood when he was suppose to do this. If you talk to NPC's in Morrowind they'll tell you that Cyrodiil is a jungle. And in Oblivion it's largely a temperate forest.

Meaning he would have died, waited for several hundred of years, then change it, and then retroactively change it so it always was a forest.
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>>167729475
Can't die if you achieve CHIM. You are literally immortal to anything and everything, so far so you could survive amaranth.
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>>167729475
>if you talk to NPCs in Morrowind
I'll need screenshots or transcripts for this, I don't recall anyone in Morrowind saying that shit.
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>>167729475
unironically the pocket guide to tamriel is full of trash info and also how most people get to know the world

pretty simple that those are all vvardenfell bumpkins that have never been to cyrodiil.
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>>167729829
So because a faggot that has nothing to do with the series as a whole and only works on a spin-off, says that it's a transcription error, it's suddenly a transcription error, even though everything we basically know that is canon comes from the books in the games.

What makes this 1 book a transcription error and others not?
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>>167729978
All the books are faulty, because they're all by in-universe authors. How faulty varies.

The PGE is just monumentally biased to the point where it has a SECOND unofficial author to balance out the bias with an opposing biased viewpoint.
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>>167729978
MK said so
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>>167728971
Nice
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>>167730067
That doesn't make it false though.

>>167730117
MK is not canon even though his C0DA is apparently a canon retelling of the TES universe but from a different perspective.
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>tearing shit up in PvP
>about to finish off a sorc when a level 30 runs up
>keep spamming talons and standing there while the level 30 goes all out with wrecking blow
>level 30 kills the resource depleted sorc and teabags his corpse relentlessly

Made my night
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>>167725490
Do stamsorcs and magsorcs even play all that differently?
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>>167730291
>teabags his corpse
They can see this? I thought the kill stats came up instead, blocking out the view of your corpse
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>>167727736

>tfw Breton Templar, Bosmer Nightblade from launch

I don't want to go back through 150 days of horse training to make new ones, and race changes are pretty expensive and have to be paired with a name change if you make an RP name that matches the race, kind of pisses me off.
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>>167706016
fpbp
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>>167730338
Very differently
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Question on scaling since One Tamriel hit..
How do resource nodes work? I'm running around on a nightblade that has no crafting proficiencies, will I only see low level shit that's not worth picking up?
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>>167730579
Yes.
Pick them up though, especially plants because they have a chance to drop worms and worms make you rich.
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>>167730451
Depends if you have the death recap up or not. Even then you can see through it.
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>>167730735

>worms make you rich

how?
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>>167730871
They're the only bait resource that cannot be farmed effectively or fast
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>>167730493
Howso?
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>>167730978
making them the rarest and most valuable of bait.

Not to mention most regions exclusive fish is in the seas and worms are best sea bait.
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>>167730978

eh.. well, I don't have a trading guild atm so .. trying to sell shit isn't going to work. I have 0 patience for spamming channels to sell and not enough time to make the quotas and all that for trading guilds.
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>>167731143
It's all good anon. You can make more money easier ways
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>>167730210
>one guy says it's a jungle
>no one else mentions it
>when you go there it isn't a jungle
Yeah
Nah
He wrong.
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>>167731229

I could use any ideas, I'd like to buy the Imperial house in the north part of Reaper's march, it's about 1.3 million and I have about 900k.
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>>167731535
Don't try arguing with the jungle cyrodilites, they're the anti-vaxxers of tes. They grasp onto their one disproven source and ignore the facts.
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>>167731535
>Dragon Breaks aren't a thing
>CHIM is universally accepted

From an in-universe look, the guy denying cyrodiil is a jungle is correct and wrong at the same time. It isn't a jungle now but it once was. Only WE, the gamers and Talos + Vivec know the truth.
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Wtf where is this housing brochure, it's not in my inventory, it's not in quests, what am I supposed to do?
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>>167731681
>Not a jungle
>Have an Imperial jungle house
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>>167722531
I think it makes sense. It's not like you're gonna get allowed to buy property when for your neighbours you are a "literally who". It helps with the immersion factor at least for me, that the bigger the house the bigger the deeds you have to do in order to be allowed to live there.

Imagine some random Mer buying the big fucking house of 4mill gold from the DC. I don't think he would be very welcomed there or that the Covenant would allow him to buy that land on their sovereign kingdom. I think it's a nice touch.

I know about fucking crowns let you bypass that reee
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What graphics setting do you guys use? Or any I should turn off?

I have an i5 4670k@4ghz and a GTX 1070 and feel like even in the outside world I get tons of drops to 30fps.
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okay this scaling shit kind of fucks me up.

My character is level 44, but can't use greater soul gems to revive or recharge weapons.
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>>167728971
Can anyone explain this? I've seen it time and time again and even when I've been lurking for the past 6 months I don't know where it comes from
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>>167732519
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/55q44d/free_recipes_for_orc_chefs/

tl:dr it's an rp meme.
ESO is such a great game these are the memes they produce.
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>>167732616
Reading through this site and I can see why reddit has such a bad rep here. This is making me cringe.
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>>167731779
Just go to your starter town's bank (I was AD so I had to go to Vulkhel Guard's bank) you'll find some housing NPC there. He'll give you the quest.
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How do the dark brotherhood and thieves guild DLC work? Do I get it straight away or do I need to be a certain level?

I only just started the game but I'm trying to be a dickass thief
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>>167733167
If you own them you can do them right away, all the zones are scaled to your level since One Tamriel.
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>>167733232

TG and DB have always been scaled to your level or rather you were scaled to their level.

One Tamriel is weird.. why even have multiple types of soul gems if only grands work? Why not just call them "Soul Gems" now?
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>>167733167
Watch out with the TG and DB.
I had continuous crashes due to the lag from so many people entering and exiting the HQ.
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>>167733367
>why even have multiple types of soul gems if only grands work? Why not just call them "Soul Gems" now?
Same reason they retconned black soul gems. Stupidity. Makes you wonder though, if they really worked closely with Beth, did the dumb ideas rub off and that's why Skyrim Remastered and FO4 sucked?
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>>167732372
Hero you go, bb.
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>>167732616
>comes from RP

So that's why I didn't know.
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>>167733469
>blaming ZoS for Re-releasing Skyrim and FO4
Damn anon.
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>>167733669
Did I? Reread that and apply context.
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>>167731542
Seconding this
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Is that champion point system still in place at level cap?

Totally ruined the game for me last I played.
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>>167733841
Yes. But it's 600 now.
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>>167733841
Gear still scales to CP160 and the cap is now 600.
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>>167733841
You aren't alone, I actually had 3 friends quit because of the champion point stuff.

But yes, its still there.
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>>167731542
>>167733760
Some very helpful anon gave me tips last night in the old thread. Should still be in the archives
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>>167734041

was it the stealing with prosperous gear and full legerdmain/thieves guild lines?
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>>167731842
You know the devs were taking the piss with that one.
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>>167733520
Thanks!!
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>>167734473
[Citation Needed]
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>>167729729
I'll be playing Morrowind later and check it out.
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So how does one make money? I find farming for materials like ores or runestones very boring. I never get anything good from running pledges/dungeons.

It seems like I'm missing out on stuff to make maximum money.

>Do pledges
>Do Premium Dungeon
>do once-a-day quests
>farm runestones a bit
>farm rubedite ore
>get like 4 kuta a day
>run around looking for master chests to unlock
>I got a purple painting maybe worth 50k

That's it. Is there anything else I could be doing?
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>>167734639
I don't have a quote. I'm just assuming they found it as funny and cheeky as I did when they added a Cyrodiilic Jungle House for the players to buy for that authentic Elder Scrolls feeling they never got in Oblivion.
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>>167734905
I don't find it funny. Infact it seems spiteful.
>people bitch and moan that they fucked up and don't follow the lore
>suddenly add something that points at the whiners being in the right while still denying it
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>>167734905
No don't you understand, the devs are only incompetent they can never make a joke about their games.
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>>167735136
So it's okay if they fuck around with things you don't like but if I like it, woah I'm the one in the wrong? Shouldn't you be sucking some dick on the forums or reddit?
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>>167735192
I just find it funny that each game has had stark differences from its predecessors obviously to serve gameplay purposes or to fit the game on consoles and yet still like 15 years later people think its them specifically spitting on anyone who happened to read the Guide to Tamriel in Morrowind.
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>>167735263
ESO takes place prior to the main games.
The main games came out first.
Ergo the main games have the right when it comes to lore, but no, ESO is right because...? Why? They didn't make TES. They didn't add to TES. All they've done is make a generic mmo with aspects of TES lore that suits their ability at programming and game design. The books been in how many games?
Original ESO lore features in how many games? None.
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>>167729729
>>167734748
Here you go.
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>>167735421
Thank you for this.
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>>167735473
You're welcome.

ESO lore is fine, but when idiot fanboys start suckling the cock tip, I get triggered. Probably too much time spent on /co/.
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>>167735443
I'm sure some of the orcs in Gnisis also say things like this. I know Darius brings up horses.
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>>167735634
Oh no I still think you are extremely butthurt to not see that they would obviously make Cyrodiil look like it did in Oblivion vs a jungle because a majority of the fanbase probably remembers Oblivion and not that it was suppose to be a jungle that got retconned out.

Make sure to bring up that Seyda Neen is the same in Vvardenfell in ESO as it is in Morrowind because they specifically stated they wanted to recapture it from Morrowind and then created a loophole that made sense for it to be Imperial vs Dunmeri.
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>>167725001
Where?
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Hi /tesog/

How close to typical "Elder Scrolls" gameplay is TESO? Would I miss out on much playing primarily solo?
All really want is The Elder Scrolls: Runescape.
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>>167735745
>Oh no I still think you are extremely butthurt to not see that they would obviously make Cyrodiil look like it did in Oblivion vs a jungle because a majority of the fanbase probably remembers Oblivion and not that it was suppose to be a jungle that got retconned out.

And you'd be incorrect but it's obviously how I come across. I know they didn't add it because of engine limits. I don't care for that. It's a nothing. Nobody whines that the cities in the games are the wrong size (except the severe autists on /v/). Like I said it's when we have dickheads that want to supplement actual lore with ESO fanfic that I get butthurt over.

Seyda Neen also looks strikingly different to the way it was in Seyda Neen.
Does that bother me? No. but if a book suddenly appears that says this Seyda Neen is in fact the true Seyda Neen, I'll lose my shit.
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>>167735834
On the xbox and PS4 it plays exactly like Skyrim, down to the UI and menus.
On PC you need to pimp yourself out with add-ons.

What sort of Runescape? Classic, Classic, Classic or w/e it is now?
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>>167735834
>How close to typical "Elder Scrolls" gameplay is TESO?

It's like an odd mix of all. You think it's like Skyrim but then you notice that stats matter a lot so you think it's like Oblivion, but then you fight something and you get "miss", "miss", "miss" several times in a row and you think it's like Morrowind, but then you learn it's because of some obscure buff and game mechanic you haven't learned about and that's done in such an convoluted way it reminds you of when you played that game where some of the first enemies you encountered were immune to your weapons because it was made out of the wrong material so you think it's like Daggerfall. But the majority of the game is nothing like Daggerfall so you just get confused trying to explain the combat system.
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>>167735108
you don't find it funny because people like you are the punchline. i think it's hilarious
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>>167736647
And I think you'd be better among your own kind on the forums where they cry because a loser on twitch gets invited to their hq but not them.
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How many stealth or invisibility methods are in this game? The nightblade skill only lasts for 2.5secs and I was hoping it would play a little more like a traditional rogue. guess I can't in ESO?
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>>167736745
ESO doesn't do stealth well.
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>>167736745
Outside of the nightblade skill you have invisibility potions and armours reducing your detection radious or allowing you to walk at normal speed while stealthed. If you make a nightblade specialized in magicka you can be pretty much stealthed forever.
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>>167735421
>Ergo the main games have the right when it comes to lore, but no, ESO is right because
Then what main game is the correct one? Since they all differ.
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>>167736967
>until someone uses an aoe that stops your stealth or you walk near an npc with a lantern
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>>167737045
True.
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>>167737036
They progress forward in time, that's the difference.
As time goes by things change. That's not hard to understand.

But ESO is different, being set in the past it should be different but not in a way that contradicts what will come

Its stated there's a jungle. Then says there was no jungle. Then they allude to a jungle because it's a "joke".
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Is there any penalty in wearing heavy armor as a mag sorcerer?

All I'm getting from loot and quests are heavy/medium armor and my level 3~6 light equipment are getting pretty useless
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>>167736803
>>167736967

So how does crouching and not being seen work? Do you just not show up for other players when crouched?

So I can't really make a rogue like in WoW as in; going around stealthing and stabbing people then vanishing away?
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>>167737201
Armor doesn't inherently do anything outside of Passives. So the only downside is you have light armor passives skilled up they don't work with heavy armor.
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>>167737269
Shit, guess I'll farm some materials and craft some new stuff.
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anyone know how to make my game load faster? i keep checking my task manager but the game is just sitting at 0 mb/s reads and then suddenly jumps to 20 mb/s and its done instantly

its super random when it happens too but it seems to only happen in cyrodil
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>>167737221
Crouching near a target or npc will drain stamina. Once it's gone you stand.
Attacking also causes you to stand so you can't do any of the bow crap from skyrim.

Some npcs carry a torch and you can't crouch in its radius.
Guards are also invincible so trying to kill a torch holder will never work.

You can stealth people then vanish but if they have an aoe you're almost done for because nbs are glass canons.
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>>167737174
>DRAGONBREAK
Oh hey I fixed it.
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>>167736701
wat
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>>167737351
Pickpocketing requires you to all but touch the npcs which may cause you to be seen if you initiate the pickpocket from a foot away.

Same with assassinations except you have different types. Sometimes you throw your knife over a distance.
Can't kill players, guards or essential npcs with assassinations.
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>>167705872
>he doesn't link new thread in old thread
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>>167705872

Next time a new thread is made, change
">Is this game worth playing? Yes, no, inquire within."

to

">Isn't Cyrodiil a jungle? Yes, no, inquire within."
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>>167737479
Old thread was archived before new thread was made and only lazy fucks can't click the Archive button at the bottom of the page.
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>>167737632
>"Is your life a transcription error? Yes, no, inquire within."
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>>167737382
Doesn't work without a separate timeline.
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>>167737174
Hold on, are you claiming the main games haven't done any kind of retcon? That the newer games haven't done or claimed things that directly contradict what we knew in the previous games?

Because we have things such as the Hist turning from somewhat smarter Argonians into sentient god-trees and orcs turning from being a kind of goblin to shit elves.
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>>167737740
>All timelines are separate but coexisting and also in a double helix formation because Todd Howard said so
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Don't forget The Serpent (an anarcho-primitivist who wants to eradicate the Tamrielic civilizations because he believe cities are degenerate) showing the players a vision of how he claims Cyrodiil used to look like. It's very jungle-ish.
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Translated news article about Morrowind here. https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/5smvvd/news_upcoming_game_informer_morrowind_article/ inb4 >reddit

So warden is confirmed to have:
>Ice/Water tank/defensive tree
>Nature healing/buff tree
>Animal summoning tree for DPS
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>>167737735
Did Barenziah really fuck a Khajit or is it a transcription error?
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For PVE I should use focused aim rather than lethal arrow right?
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>>167737796
No the newer games aren't set in a past time prior to the other games. They follow a very clear timeline forward. Those retcons are to be expected because as time progresses new things happen/are found out etc.
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>>167738086
Is this from that german article? GI is corrupt as fuck. I'd take anything they say with a bag of saltrice.
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>>167738229
It looks like its a preview of the GI article and its in Russian on this. Might be the same source as the German one was just going through a different website now.
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>>167738346
Cool, i'll give it a look through, thanks
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>>167738086
I like the idea that they're side-stepping introducing more Dwemer stuff by having the things we see not made by Dwemers but by a Dwemerboo in the same vein they introduced the Mananaut googles.
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>>167738119
Lethal is better since your tank will be debuffing their armour anyway and the same debuff can't stack.
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>>167738105
Barenziah is a skank
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>>167738990
True.

My question is did she actually fuck him or not. In Daggerfall she clearly did, but in Morrowind she claims she didn't and the other book is false. So is this another transcription error?
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>>167739103
Maybe it's another Barenziah, cue gasps
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>>167739338
I wish. Ever noticed alot of the earlier stories and tales are so edgy and try-hard?
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>>167705872
>dat bloom/fog in skyrim se
fucking lel
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Bumpin with a pumpkin
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>>167739103
Its up for you to decide who you believe.
Thats what Morrowind plays on with its mainquest.
Is she as loose as your mother after she has taken jamals cock, or is it a lie?
YOU DECIDE!
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>>167742628
I thought you were fucking my mom anon. Explains why she doesn't moan as loudly anymore. I miss you, dad.
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Sorc pet anon, where are you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnHx7uKzhyU
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>>167725621
>For future, if you want to discuss pure Beth TES lore, go to /tg/ and the /tgesg/ thread.
You can discuss from it here but that
doesn't mean you can shit on teso lore or
say teso is not canon.
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Yes! Yes! Finally it updates. Throughout yesterday it refused to work. Zenimax should've said the patch arrives to EU on the 8th.
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>>167743345
It's as canon as MKs writing is
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how do i motivate myself to autistically grind cheese pizzas?
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>>167743375
They did state that EU was having problems though. Not their fault you can't be assed to check

>>167743450
Grooming.
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>>167743408
>actual game produced by a spin-off studio helmed by former Bethsoft devs
>and whose writer team has to send their writing off to beth to get it checked off before putting it in game
>on the same level as a dude who Bethesda occaisonally hires to write something and fills the time in between his contracts with getting fucked up and then spilling what comes to mind into a forum post
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon.
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>>167743571
Yet that doesn't happen. Beth has no more say in ZoS design decisions as they do Beths games.

>believing lies told by an unknown ZoS source
>suddenly canon

Yeah kill yourself cunt.
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>>167743673
lol
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>>167743739
So can you point me to the source that isn't a tweet by ZoS that says they work closely with Beth to make sure they don't fuck up. I can't find anything else or Todd Howard confirming ESO lore as canon.
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>>167743802
>Todd
lol
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>>167743858
>Director and Executive producer at Bethesda Game Studios

So you've got nothing then or you're just buying time to google it?
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>>167743673
What do you mean "it doesn't happen"? Are you pretending this is some sort of secret, that it's not something openly talked about if you spent 2 min looking at the development process? Why do you think ESO lacks sloads and imgas?
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>>167743802
Bethesda twitter tweeted once that TESO is canon(note, I know ZOS tweeted it too but I cannot find Beth tweet).
DLCs and the game had go trough Bethesda lore/quality control (bethesda quality :^) ) team(who accept or decline the lore/quests etc. before they are released.)
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>>167743910
You're talking about Todd when Kuhlmann is the head honcho regarding lore. Fun facts, Kuhlmann and Schick also happen to be personal friends so I wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason Schick went from being merely lead writer to "Loremaster", in the same way Lambert worked with Howard on Oblivion and kept commenting on how great an Elder Scrolls MMO would be, leading to Howard personally making sure Lambert became a part of ESO.

Look at the PAX west interviews from 2016, if you weren't a filthy casual you would already have seen these and know this.
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>>167744279
>Bethesda twitter tweeted once that TESO is canon
Okay this I can believe and ill spend my night looking for it.

>DLCs and the game had go trough Bethesda lore/quality control (bethesda quality :^) ) team(who accept or decline the lore/quests etc. before they are released.)

This i did not know because Ive yet to see anything on it despite trying to look for some info. All I seem to be able to find is forum posts and tweets, specifically the one where ZoS claims to work hand in hand with Beth, which people cite like it's the word of god on the forums.

>>167744245
>Why do you think ESO lacks sloads and imgas

Because of the same reason we don't see anyone from Akivir despite the potentate having only recently been assassinated/overthrown.
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>>167744547
>Look at the PAX west interviews from 2016, if you weren't a filthy casual you would already have seen these and know this.

>spending time doing what casuals do which is keeping informed on the world of corrupt entertainment
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are counterfeit pardon edicts out of the game now? I swear I had like 10 on me.
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>>167745076
Still in the game. Maybe you banked them?
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>>167745076
mine are still there
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>>167744626
If you kept yourself informed of "corrupt entertainment" you'd make less retarded statements.
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>>167745101

I thought I didn't, I guess I did, I have 27 of them. Okay score. Time to go robbing
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>>167745169
I would If I were still stupid enough to believe corrupt people will change.
Once you've seen enough faggots hungry for nothing but money and power, you start to lose hope.
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>Hook64 doesn't work any more
rip decent fov in first person
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how do i fix this piece of shit game

"install anyhwere" starts goes up to 100% and then nothing happens

Yes i've googled this shit but there is no fucking way im redownloading 70gb again


Fucking ridiculous that they cant even make an installer work
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>>167748645
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>>167748645
works for me, bro :P
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Just reached my first major city and my FPS tanks to like 25 but once I leave it goes make up. Is this normal?

Also is there anyway to cap my FPS?
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>Find an out of the way area in a certain zone with a few sites
>Sites have crates, barrels, and backpacks
>Run in a circuit, usually net at least one housing recipe every 15 minutes
>Usually greens, a he every fourth or fifth
>Couldn't sleep, so I did this for a few hours
>Put recipes up on guild store, 5k for green level 2 - 4, 10k for level 5+, 15k for the blues
>Decide to do some fishing, all of the recipes sell in about an hour
>Fish up green and blue housing decorations
>Sell those for 35k
>In about 4 hours made 185k
>And got 2 perfect for as well, I'll sell those later

I'm going to be sad when the hype dies down and the market regulates.
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>>167749713
see>>167733520
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>>167750070
Ah thanks for the reply but I already followed that.
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>>167749835
It's like 2000 , it will take a long time for the market to go down. I for one are selling orc lanters for 20k each from a purple blueprint I got.
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>it's a run coa and coh for 6 hours and not see 1 shield or useable weapon epsidoe
fucking kill me, I'll literally take a fucking sturdy shield at this point.
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>You can't deposit items in a house
>Houses expensive as hell
>Copy paste of other buildings
What is the purpose of the housing system? At least give me some slots to deposit items
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>>167753290
Basic crafting stations and dps dummy is enough for me to buy a nice medium house.
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>>167753402
>still no orc waifu to display proudly in your home
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how do you enter veteran maelstrom arena?
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>>167755756
go to group page and set it to veteran before entering the solo dungeon. Enjoy being killed over and over
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>>167755756
GLHF
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I got this game on steam over a year ago from my cousin and haven't had time to touch it, but I'm considering dipping my toes in.

How good is the character creation? Does everyone look very samey or is there variety in the body weights and features? Can I make a qt trapgonian?

I understand that there's a RMT store, how obnoxious is it? And no, I'm not asking about "p2w" (although that changes things as well), I'm talking about how much they shove it down your throats, and how much they devote their resources towards developing new mounts for 12.99$ instead of working on new content.

Is it easy to get immersed in the game or is it succumbing to munchkinism like so many other MMORPGs nowadays?
Don't get me wrong I'm not opposed to minmaxing and being the best I can be when push comes to shove, but I don't enjoy it when it's always expected of me no matter what I'm doing.
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>>167757076
helpful post you stupid fucking subhuman piece of shit. the only bright side to it is that in the next 20 years your kind will all be exterminated

good luck, have fun
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>>167757324
lel your question was already answered, I was wishing you luck because vma is hard, faggot
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>>167730579
Nodes are split between your character level and relevant crafting level. So on my NB I get a mix of maple and ruby ash, if I started putting points into it those would be oak and ruby ash etc...
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>>167757231
>How good is the character creation? Does everyone look very samey or is there variety in the body weights and features? Can I make a qt trapgonian?

It's decent. You can check it out on youtube, haven't changed since release.

>I'm talking about how much they shove it down your throats, and how much they devote their resources towards developing new mounts for 12.99$ instead of working on new content.

It's not really that obnoxious. Most stuff are reskins anyway. The worst offender are the crown crate but it's hard to know how much that siphons from the other content. I wouldn't be surprised if the artists mainly work on the store stuff between DLC's.

>Is it easy to get immersed in the game or is it succumbing to munchkinism like so many other MMORPGs nowadays?

The multiplayer content always have a "normal" and "veteran" difficulty. The normal difficulty maybe won't take more than 10-20 minutes depending on your group, while the "veteran" version takes two hours with one of those hours being spent trying to beat the last boss.

The singleplayer is easily made with basically any build.

This allows player who want to do whatever they want to do whatever they want while also pandering to people slightly more autistic.
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>>167743571
That is a big cat.
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>>167758193
>another factual response not filled with personal opinions

I'm proud of you /tesog/
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>>167758193
>these thicc tails in character creation
Yessss

Thanks anon, I forgot to ask, is there an established fashion system or anything, a-la holowardrobe or transmogrification? It isn't a huge factor, but it changes a few things.
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>>167743482
Well its YOUR fault the launcher's downloading 38gb now, not zenimax
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>>167759371
There's styles to clothing, weapons and armor for each race and more. Dozens of styles called motifs. However as far as I know you can't change a piece of already made gear to look like another style. There is however the option to dye your clothes so you can make your gear match. There's also costumes which are somewhat like transmogrification but you can't customize them.
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>>167759710
So at endgame, does everyone of the same race run around in the same armor with different colors?
I doubt I'd be a fan of costumes, if I'm going to try any kind of fashion game I'd rather have more control over it.
>>
there are a shitton of styles, and gear drops in random styles. Almost noone ever looks the same at any point, because the odds of your particular gear being dropped all being the same motif is very very very low.

Unless your gear is crafted at max level, then you can make it whatever you want- but then it becomes about finding the really rare motifs that most normies don't have
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>>167736345
You only miss if you don't aim. Git gud.
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>>167760054
Same level of armor but there's so many different styles. Armor is divided into light/medium/heavy. You can choose between a lot of styles of armor, so not its not really the same.
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>>167711662
Just like in skyrim the colors are boring without sweetfx. Use sweetfx and it will look colourful
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>>167749835
>Put a Hissmir Recipe for 50k and Aetherial Dust for 60k I guild store
>Still not sold
I guess I'll go farming furnishings too.
>>
Is it worth crushing my soul grinding for Burning Spellweave pieces or is Julianos good enough for Magsorc?
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>>167764414
You'll be fine
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>>167764642
Respond to my post you kuk, not his
>>167764264
>>167764264
>>167764264
>>167764264
SHREEEEEEEEE!
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>>167765269
Lower the price slightly and/or do a search for the next cheapest price for that item and undercut it.

And if you really wanna be a dick about it, you can buy out all the cheaper ones and then make the price exorbitant.
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>>167763727
This
I use this version called Heroic and it makes many of the environments vibrant and how they look in concept art
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>>167765423
Hmm, thanks. I set the prices to be on the lower side of the average. I'm worried about the low profit if I were to undercut the price, though, but I guess it's better than nothing.
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>>167764642
Good to know, thanks.
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If you get the base game how do you buy the DLC?
I cant find it on their store page, it is only in the gold edition.
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>>167766681
In game. You go to the crown store which is available at the top of your menu.
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>>167766718
Crowns can only be bought with real money, right?
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>>167766843
Yeah. You also get 500 crowns for buying the game and a further 1500 for subbing every month.

Subbing is $15 but gives you access to the DLC while you're subbed.
If you purchase DLC in the crown store you never lose access to it.

best way to go is buy the base game, sub and see if you enjoy it. If not, cancel the sub and forget the game. But if you do, pick what DLC you like and purchase it.
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>>167766843
I believe so. Albeit, imo, it's better to subscribe (as opposed to buying crowns) as you get a monthly tidbit of crowns as well as other benefits. Also during the phase you're subscribed you have access to all the DLC so if you only intend on playing for a month that's the better option than buying the DLC outright.
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>>167767081
How much coins do DLCs cost?
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Is there any data on the faction population? I have no idea what alliance I'm going to pick.

>>167766681
Just get the gold edition from a keyseller, you can buy that shit for 24 Shekels or something.
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>>167767418
Where did you see gold edition for 6.4 dollars?
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>>167767381
Each is different.
Hist is 1500
Dark Brotherhood is 2000
Thieves Guild is 2000
Orsinium is 3000
Imperial City is 1500
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>>167767381
Can only buy dlc with crowns.

Unrelated note, my buddy made a guild of all kahjiits and I was wondering if a kahjiit dk tank is viable at endgame?
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>>167767418
There is in game.
What are you on, PC or console?

On Xbox DC = EP > AD for playerbase.
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>>167768043
Related to this what is a good class and race for RPing as a thief and are some races intrinsically better as some classes?
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>>167768043
Yeah but you'll be in stiff competition with other tanks and the races with better classes for the job.

But if you've got a guild, you could probably be the designated tank for them which eliminates all that drama.
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>>167768281
http://esoitem.uesp.net/viewSkills.php
Look at the racial skills, they are pretty straightforward.
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>>167768281
Avoid putting points into health until you're a master at the game. Either stack stam or mag.
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>>167768086
That how is on PC EU and sound like it's the same thing on PC NA, weird.
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>>167768353
So it's good, just not the best is what you're saying correct? I don't know if I'll end up getting this far, but can it somewhat effectively do vet trials? Or is that like premium meme-ium, only the meta is capable of handling it kinda deal?
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>>167768281
Khajiit nightblade, of course.
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>>167768695
that or imperial because their racials look sick
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>>167768669
>So it's good, just not the best is what you're saying correct?
Yep, pretty much.

>>167768669
>I don't know if I'll end up getting this far, but can it somewhat effectively do vet trials? Or is that like premium meme-ium, only the meta is capable of handling it kinda deal?

You could definitely handle the vet dungeons and trials. They're hard enough that even a team of fully pimped pros can still be wiped out. Having the best doesn't guarantee a win.

Any class can be tailored to suit any role essentially and handle all content. What really matters for vet stuff is your team and how well you know your playstyle.
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>>167768962
Can you change your pact later in the game?
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>>167768962
Alright, thanks for the input man. I love you.
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>>167769123
For crowns yes. And yes, they're very expensive. More than any of the DLC is.

>>167769168
Np anon. Have fun
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>>167769123
You're stuck with whatever faction you started, but it has no meaningful influence outside Cyrodiil PvP.
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>>167769123
Your faction only matters when it comes to PvP, the Cyrodiil battlefield, horse armor, dog armor and your factions armor. That's really not much, so go with what you think you'll enjoy the most.

You can and are also encouraged to finish each of the other two factions questlines as well in single player.
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>>167769563
How does the race change work? Can I only switch between the 3 playable races of my faction unless I have the upgrade that allows me any faction?
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>>167769123
>>167769491
To correct him, you can't faction change. You can only race, name, and appearance change, and only with crowns.

>>167769917
Correct
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>>167770870
>you can't faction change
what about Silver
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>>167770998
Cadwell's Silver? You can do the other factions quests, but everyone can do that no matter what faction they start in.

You can't change your original faction. The only thing that this matters is in PvP.
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>porting into deshaan times out the connection

Epic
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Imperial or Breton for my sorc?
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>play templar healer
>Tanks stand in red circles, refuse to move
>Allies never watch for attack indicators from enemies
>Seldom have time to DPS
>play DK Healer
>get the most cautious perfect teammates
>rarely have to heal outside of clutch moments
>can shit out 10-25k+ DPS every fight
>Vet dungeons go by quickly

I wish pugs wouldn't get so comfortable just because there's a templar healing them
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>>167773331
Same with TG and DB for me.

>>167775784
Breton
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>>167776390
My experience with DK healers is great because a lot of them play or played as tanks so they usual run Warhorn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jY66zHksLc
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>>167757625

yeah I'm noticing that.

Man I really should be on my sorc or DK gathering because of the 10000 node gathering nodes for housing, but .. at the same time I want to level this NB and steal so that I can AFFORD the house I want.. ugh.

I really don't want to level crafting on more characters but it feels like I have to, at least I won't have to research.

I wish those achievements were across account rather than characters.
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>"we dont want to do flying mounts like WoW because it helps isolate the players from each other"

>gives everyone their own house to hide away in

the fuck is this
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>>167778189
Flying mounts are disgusting.
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>>167778189
Housing makes more money in regards to cash shop sales
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>>167779010
Also serves as a huge in-game-money sink for players
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>>167766843
Best way to get Crowns in ZOS jewhole is to sub so you get access to all DLC AND the equivalent in crowns of the sub's price, or wait for crown sales, which seem to be happening more often, though none have happened this year.
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>>167779010
>>167778987
now that i see the standard one is of course a 5x5 foot cuckshed, where can i get a bigger one

and how do i sell skooma
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>>167779979
The cuckshed is your Skooma trading hub
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>>167780058
that answers neither of my questions
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>>167780267
Same place you got the quest to begin with. Don't know where that is because not on pc so haven't got the update but read it.

Didn't know you could sell skooma. Sorry I'm of no more use
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pg10 Bump
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>>167779979
You can get a bigger one simply by opening up the crown store, selecting one and previewing it. Once you're there you can either buy it for gold or for crowns.

Skooma is unfortunately not something you can make so good luck with that. Maybe you can fool some newbie into buying a damage health potion and call it skooma.
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>>167779979
>and how do i sell skooma
But the Morrowind DL- I mean Morrowind Chapter :^)
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>>167732065
>It's not like you're gonna get allowed to buy property when for your neighbours you are a "literally who"

That's not how buying property works...
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>>167783931
>Morrowind Chapter
EXPANSION PACK!
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>>167784502
Depends on where you live. Certain neighbourhoods form contracts between the houses where you're only allowed to sell if everyone agrees that the one moving in is good enough. And the person moving in is only allowed to move in if he accepts the neighbourhood contract. Easy way to keep the property value high, even if it gets silly at times when you see an add having requirements such as being married and exercise regularly.
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>>167784836
B-but Rich Lambert said "Expansion pack" is a dirty word...
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>>167736745
>The nightblade skill only lasts for 2.5secs

You can constantly use it as a Magicka NB. Effectively just refresh it before the time is up and you'll remain invisible. With enough Magicka regen you can stay stealthed and keep refreshing it.
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>>167748645
Find launcher in appdata temp files
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>>167748645
Did you install the game in a proper directory? Have you tried waiting for more than 2 seconds to see if it finishes up?
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>8-12 inches of snow tomorrow
Gonna be a comfy grinding day
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Hey guys,

I'm new to the game.. just bought it actually.
Can I make a fighter mage? like a spellsword from Oblivion? I wanna whack people with swords and do some fire damage. Those were my favorite characters in elder scroll games.
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>>167790276
Go for it, Dragon Knight is a completely fire-based class, but any class can use any weapon combination
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>>167790276
well, mixing stats (like Heath + Magicka, or Magicka + Stamina) really hampers you

however, you could easily be a magicka-based DragonKnight dunmer and shit fire damage everywhere constantly, dual-wield swords actually gives a big bonus to damage because you get double enchantments/traits
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>>167790276
Since fire damage is based off magicka/spell dmg and physical is based off stamina/weapon dmg, it won't be the greatest.

DKs are your best bet since they get fire/poison bonuses, but stam DKs are poison based (though I guess you can pretend it's green fire you're spitting out).

Mag DKs are fire based, but do little physical damage and use staffs and stuff.
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>>167790276

DK
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friendly reminder that each iteration of TES is worse than the last, and this trend will never stop until TES is the COD of RPGS

Morrowind had heavy armor, acrobatics, block, athletics, illusion, alchemy, alteration, medium armor, armorer, light armor, hand to hand, mercantile, conjuration, destruction, spears, axe, marksman, short blade, long blade, speechcraft, enchanting, mysticism, blunt weapons, sneak, unarmored, security, restoration. Everything thats come after Oblivion has been a bastardization of this system, hacked into pieces and spit out as an opiod to tasteless unimaginative and instant gratification-seeking millenials.
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>>167794216
Ok
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>>167794216

I can guarantee the next TES will have you putting a Grand Sould Gem into your Daedric armor to power it.
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Are the furnishing blueprints and decorations still sellable or am I too late? Do they sell in /zone?
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>>167784502
Yeah. And that's why elaborated:

>Imagine some random Mer buying the big fucking house of 4mill gold from the DC. I don't think he would be very welcomed there or that the Covenant would allow him to buy that land on their sovereign kingdom.
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>my not gf doesnt want to play wow because graphicsfag
>wants to buy us this piece of shit to play together
>see that it has "DLC"

how the fuck does an mmo have dlc? does it mean expansion packs similar to cataclysm or wrath of the lich king? why the fuck are the thieves guild and dark brotherhood behind a fucking paywall?
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>>167790276
Go stamina Dragon Knight. You'll literally use weapons doused in flames.

Check the skills here:
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragonknight

I personally love it, it feels like how the Dragonborn should've been in Skyrim.
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>>167796381

Still selling, get to it.
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>>167796381

perhaps
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>>167795463
that's stupid, you don't power daedric armor, daedric armor is living daedra bound to your flesh, either temporarily or permanently

dwemer power armor with dwarven dynamos, maybe
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>>167799391
In eso, a DLC means a smaller expansion, with varying size/content roughly in line with their cost in zenishekels.
An expansion in eso is just a larger version of this, the first of which is coming in june, with the Morrowind expansion.

They charge for them because there's content that cost money to create in them. You can get access to the DLC by either using zenishekels, or having an active subscription. The coming expansion is similar to the wow expansions you speak of - need to buy them.
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>>167799391
It's DLC. You know, like Dragonborn or Dawnguard.
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>>167799391
It's an MMO without a subscription. Alternatively, if you pay the sub you have access to all the dlc during your sub period.
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Why can't you see the hair you bought or the effects of vampire in character creation? Fucking bullshit I'm about to delete 3 characters.
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how does this make you feel
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>>167785103
That sounds like some ridiculous asian thing.
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>>167802976
Considering that he canonically stops it with his cock..
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It begins.
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is pvp possible as an australian
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>>167803629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7R_PLeawqo

>and on the forth day, his powers restored, vivec unsheathed his muatra, and with its tip, kissed the truth of the prince of madness and with his mighty load made inert the rock of madness with creamy persuasion
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>>167804282
Yes, I'm an Aussie and I PvP pretty much every night. Also there are quite a few Aussie PvP guilds that you should consider joining.

300 ping isn't THAT much of a disadvantage, as long as you maintain a high steady fps and don't get memed on by lag spikes, you'll be able to play fine.
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>>167804176
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>>167804769
>>167804176
Never stop doing what you do
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>>167804884
I am incapable of doing so.
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>>167804943
And less than 50 items too.
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>>167804176
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>>167804176
God dammit trainwiz
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>>167804176
Looks expensive.
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Not to interrupt the pain train but is there a good way of taking off vamp face for race changes?
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>>167805960
taking off vamp
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>>167805947
Extremely expensive. Didn't help that I had no idea what cylindrical materials were what size, I spent 50k on that giant fucking keg.
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>>167805383
>you will never ride on Trainwiz's train

Might as well uninstall
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>>167705872
>5.3k to respec
That's a giant slap in the face that I'm not using my gold properly.
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ESO Gold edition is only $30 right on the official site https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store. Pretty good deal.
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>pre-ordered Morrowind
>can't play

>base game goes on sale for $18 days later
>can't buy it because Morrowind Pre-Order makes me ineligible to purchase it.

Zenimax are you allergic to my money or something
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>>167806328
Hey, I opened my house up for free rides when it was finished. Which also reminds me, I need chairs.
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What class are Bosmer good for?
>inb4 waifu
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>>167804176
So housing is pretty much useless, right
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>>167807960
Twink sluts. Cyrodill pvp and stamina DPS, mostly.
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>>167808037
I made a train, so it objectively is not.
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>>167785103
That actually sounds like a really good idea. I'd vote for it being made legal where I live.
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>>167804176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzmWzXLPa6I
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>>167804176
Do you have just HAVE to do this every game?
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>only 4 classes that are extremely restrictively locked into their themes

as a RP fag this kills me, there doesn't seem to be a ranger type class for instance
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>>167810285
Warden soon
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>>167810285
this game has some of the least amount of build variety i've ever seen
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>>167810430
THE ELDER SCROLLS: ONLINE! YOU CAN BE ANYTHING except anything that's not a paladin, fire warrior, lightning mage or shadow rogue

o ok
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>your search options get saved when going to another trader
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can anyone NA PC give me a vamp bite? :3
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>>167812162
no
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>>167812162
>:3
absolutely not.
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>>167812234
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>>167799494
>>167799523
fuck this shit, nobody buys anything and my trading guild is shitty (Order of Magnus in case any of you knows it)
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>>167807960

Stamina DPS and stealth shenanigans.
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>>167812830

>TFW you've made another 60K just from the recipes and crafting mats that you've found over the past 2 hours
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>>167813051
How? When I link it in /zone in major areas nobody buys
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>>167810679
Your post was wrong and shit.
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>>167794216
>Starting with Morrowind as the pinnacle of Elder Scrolls
This is how I know you're baiting. You could just as well have started with CoD4 and talked about how the rest of the series became consolized trash afterwards.
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>>167804176
Is this the hypetrain to Morrowind?
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>>167813518
No, that's this one
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>>167812162
>:3
No
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>>167813228

>List crafting mats on my trading guild (we have a vendor in a major city)
>Got 10k for the mats
>Found a circuit to run last night that took me through a low population zone, but to a bunch of locations that had multiple backpacks and crates
>Sell green recipes for 5k, sell blue recipes for 10k, sold one specific white recipe for 10k
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>>167813270
i haven't bought the game yet so

i'm going by the new player's guide and the wiki and the wiki only shows 4 extremely restricted classes with narrow themes
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>>167814059
ehh I find lots of recipes but nobody fucking buys them
I list blues for 25 k in /z and nothing, listed greens for 5k and same
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>>167814118
Yeah, that's not really accurate at all.
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>>167812162
Ask any normies in zone chat. There's usually one
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>>167814118
>mfw someone tells me my frost mage in heavy armour don't exist
Outside of your 15 active class skills, there's an additional 104 skills open to everyone you can mix and match with how you want regardless of class. That's without counting ultimate abilities, werewolf and vampire abilities.

If you think that's restrictive then yea I suppose it's "extremely restrictive".
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>>167814118
"It’s not easy to bottle ESO classes into archetypical roles because each class has many viable builds. For example, DKs are the best tanks, but they are also one of the best mag DPS classes because of all their dots/fire skills/fire damage passives, while their stam versions use poison instead of fire, and are extremely strong in PvP (being capable of burst and sustain). You might think the sorcerer is a mag-only class, and while magsorcs are good, the crit surge/hurricane stamsorcs are also very strong right now. NBs tend be rogue-y with good resource sustain, but also have tanking and healing builds. Templars are pretty solidly into “light” magic and have a paladin-y feel."
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>>167810285
>there doesn't seem to be a ranger type class for instance
nigga just equip a bow, it ain't hard
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>>167813439
>daggerfall: procedural generation, the game
Nah Morrowind was the GOAT. Everything before it was pretty bland
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>>167727172
for fuck's sake fish are now 4k in guild stores ;-;
>you will never make any money
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>>167814118
>4 extremely restricted classes

It's true some classes are better at some roles than others, but the majority of your spells/passives will come from other sources that arent your class.
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i need a small loan of 500k gold
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>>167814780

Blues are way too high. I'm not aiming for the people who want to craft shit for themselves. I aim my prices for the people who are trying to flip the recipes for a profit. I'd rather sell it for 10k - 15k and have it sell in less than an hour than wait a day or two for an extra 5k. The longer you wait, the harder it will be, as people find the recipes, crafters start selling the pieces, and the market eventually settles itself. Need to go hard while the hype is high.
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How much DPS should I have to play vet dungs? How much should I have to play raids?
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>>167815528
Umm, no? You'll use like one or two from either mages guild, fighters guild or undaunted. The majority of skills and the definition of your build come from class skills and passives depending on whether you picked stam or magicka

there arent that many choices anyway, since the games balance is so one-sided and half the morphs you can choose from are shit
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>>167816054
I guess that's true if you ignore weapon, racials, PvP, and armor skills/passives. A typical build is only going to have 3-4 spells from their actual class on their bars with few exceptions.
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>>167816054
Sure thing buddy. Meanwhile I've started running a completely class agnostic healer build for the hell of it.
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>>167816521
>all stamina users pick redguard, or bosmer
>all magicka choose alterm
such diversity
>3-4 out of 5 on a single bar
yeah sure thing
>>167816695
>healer
>not a templar
Good luck, guy
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>>167816891
>no one plays stamina khajiit/dunmer/nord/orc
>no one plays magicka dunmer/argonian/breton
>pretending there aren't 6 spells per bar, 2 bars
>not knowing templars are a crutch for shit healers

You're a special kind of stupid.
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>>167816891
Why would I need a templar when those skills are sufficient? The one thing you could argue is to Replace the Ward Ally with Siphon Spirit and Elemental Drain with a Wall of Storm or w/e it's called due to the off balance debuff being very strong.
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>>167817304
>templars are a crutch for shit healers
Look at this shitter mad that he can't heal as well as a templar
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>>167818091
>stamina dps slowly being phased out in favor of mag
>shards getting nerfed
>repentance no longer works on engine guardian
>ele drain giving magicka back on attack instead of elemental damage = more synergy with DK tank igneous shield

Templars might no longer be as outrageously overpowered as they were pre-homestead.
The biggest things keeping them top-dog are super easy access to major mending, cheap purify, and BoL spammability, all which can be substituted more or less. Quick res is always handy though
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>>167818671

>Was working on a khajit stamina NB for end game
>Already lag a bit behind magicka on AOE, but made up for it on single targets
>Homestead, stamina nerfed
>Using my exact same rotations, I lose 5k DPS
>Kicked from my trial group, since the meta changed

Its ok, guess I can make them a farming character, or wait, I already have a magicka templar for that.

Hello new CP168 bank mule.
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>>167815541
Sent ;)
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>>167817304
nord is pointless, orc is trash and the only good khajiit player i've seen is a cheater
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>>167819856

>Orc is trash
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>>167817304
>templars are a crutch for shit healers
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>>167819584
>Played Imperial stam NB with an experimental sword&board build
>DPS has doubled since the patch
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>pickpocketing

god damn, it's so fucking annoying. 95% chance to succeed, fail 3x in a row
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>>167820938
>no set to passively increase pickpocket chance
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>>167821019

what set is that?
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>>167821302
I'm saying there isn't one.
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what's the most common medium armor used for pvp?
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>>167820060
i play an orc, man. i love my orc. i will always play orcs. they are still trash. not having any stam regen fucking sucks
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>>167821335

that's a shame, pickpocketing is a pain in the ass and I should be just refusing these quests and keep taking new ones till I get a lockbox one, but pickpocketing quests level legerdemain faster, and I'm only at about rank 14 now.
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>>167822212
are you playing a a bosmer or khajiit with your passive at 3? buy a night mother's embrace set for sneaking. trust me it makes pick pocketing and stealing a joke
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>>167821816
Probably spriggans (the physical penetration one), and hunding's rage or clever alchemist.
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>>167822504

I'm a bosmer, my rank is at 2/3 for right now because I'm not 50, it's not the hidden part that's busting me but the under 100% chance of success, just RNG. I guess it was 85% chance rather than 95% chance (commoners) but still.

15% chance to fail, but keep failing.

Only people I can pickpocket reliably is beggers/labourers/fishermen.

since I'm relying on crafted gear atm I'm using night's silence I think, so no speed penalty for sneaking.
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>>167810960
i never have this happen to me. is this a mod? i play on PS4 NA
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>>167824968
i think they just added it in with the new update on pc
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>>167825310
id love to not have to cycle through all the possible selections as i move to another guild trader. its just exhausting.
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You are fucking autistic Trainwiz.
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>>167825487
He is off the rails.
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>>167827889
The Homestead update gave him tunnel vision.
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>>167827889
He lost his train of thought
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>>167827889

I always thought he had a one track mind.
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>>167827889
Truly the engineer of his own destruction
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>>167825487
I wish. Perhaps then I could frolick among the socially inept brocomotives, rather than be disgusted by their repeated solicitations of me.
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>>167830246

>brocomotives
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>>167830616
When he dies i'm going to be devo.
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>>167830246
>tfw you're going to make a guild called Cult of Trainwiz
>tfw once a month we'll gather in a tavern and just choo choo
>tfw you have no friends and this is just a pipe dream
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>>167830616
They are very real, and they are terrifying. In a disgusting sort of way.
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>>167831574

>Googled it
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>>167831574
>>167831696
>A whole train of motherfuckers. Me and my boys are gonna run that bitch over like a brocomotive
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When you use "Dark Exchange", exactly who are you exchanging your powers with? Clavicus vile?

Who is the Champion Lord Warden Dusk talks about? And what happen to him or her before melting a dremora clan into armour?

The khajiits on the moon talk about "Argonian Soul Reavers" devouring them. What on earth is a Soul Reaver?

How is closing dolmens a "political sensitive matter" in Mournhold, enough for the Ordinators to stop the Fighters Guild from closing them in Deshaan?
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>>167833243
>The khajiits on the moon
Is this actually in the game?
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>>167804176
No job, why DO you love trains so much?
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>>167833495
Yes. Sorry for the spoiler.
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>>167835105
So that means C0DA is legit?
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>>167835127
No.
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>>167835127
>>167835141
Or rather than saying no, I don't see how it would support C0DA being legit since they weren't the ones introducing khajiits on the moon.
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>>167835189
Didn't MK write the khajit on the moons back in MW?
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>>167835189
Bleh sorry, trying to figure out what i mean myself. Eh forget it, I don't even know lol.
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>>167834776
Trains are cool.
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>>167835241
He did and khajiits on the moon isn't really something I've encountered as controversial.

Not any more than, say, the Colovians and Nibenese being two ethnicities under one banner, Imperials. The person at ZeniMax responsible for dungeon design jokingly call khajiits for "space kitties".
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>>167835746
Yeah I find it pretty cool, just never knew it was in the game which was surprising.
Is the Den of Lorkhaj an instance? Is it fun?
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>>167835987
It's an instance. It's single-player. You enter it towards the end of the Reaper's Marsh storyline.
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>>167835987
Den is part of final AD quest chain, so yeah it's instanced but you can't go back there after or before the quest.
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>>167835987
Its the questline in reapers march, you help 2 strong independynt sisters to fight for the title of mane.
Its shit
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>>167836443
>>167836451
>>167836574
Dang, that's too bad.
What're the other two factions storyline end dungeons?
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do cadwell's silver quests give you a lot more experience?
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Dro-Matras or "bent cats" is probably one of the more exotic additions to Elder Scrolls lore ESO has provided. The greatest source of information is probably this little text:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Litter-Mates_of_Darkness

>NEW:
>To speak of the dark gambol of the dro-m'Athra.
>WAX:
>When true cats die, their souls are lifted by Khenarthi and flown to the Sands Behind the Stars, to play and prey until the Next Pounce.
>When bent cats die, their souls are dragged down by Namiira into the Dark Behind the World, to serve the Heart of Lorkhaj until their tails are straight.
>FULL:
>These, then, become the Dancers in the Darks, where they whirl to no music but the beating of the Heart. Sometimes these dancers seep up through the cracks in Nirni to the moonlit world, and walk among us as if made of moonless night. Then we call them dro m'Athra. And this is a name of fear.
>For a true cat to see a dro-m'Athra do the Bent Dance is to feel his tail twitch in time, and feel the pull of the Darks. As each twitch pulls the true cat further from the moons-light, the cat's shadow grows longer and more bent. And if the tide of the Darks grows greater than the tide of the Lights, the true cat is lost, and becomes a bent cat.
>Then comes the true peril, for a dro-m'Athra can twist out a bent cat's soul, and send it through the cracks to the Darks. Once it hears the beating of the Heart it, too, will dance bent.
>It is hard to stop. One night all the villagers of Lohrn were found dancing the Bent Dance. Now we do not go there.
>WANE:
>To banish the dro-m'Athra, there are two ways: the Way of Jone and the Way of Jode.
>Warriors use the Way of Jone, which is to unsheathe the claws and strike the darkness until it is no more. And this way is a good way, for everyone who is strong of heart and claw can use it.
>Priests use the Way of Jode, which is to bathe the moonless dark in bright lunar light. And this way is a better way, for bent spirits thus banished do not return.
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>>167836836
That's pretty creepy honestly.
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>>167836682
EP is some nord shit like muh skyrim, DC was some sort of afterlife shit or something, like a dude dies and you go back to get his soul but it ain't no daedric shit.
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>>167804176
I saw the train in the guild chat, I was confused on what you were talking about...
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>>167733520
So how low should I even set that MIP if I run with 2GB VRAM? I kinda doubt it'll help either.
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>>167837059
Tell me atleast the main main storyline has a good end dungeon?
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>>167837350
Haha, no. Mediocre alt best.
The siege on coldharbor was more fun.
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So i'm seeing that everyone is selling furnishing recipes but what's the price on writs?
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>>167836836
Yeah, I love it. They're fucking terrifying.
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>>167837350
yeah it does, I liked it, every zone pretty much has their own dungeon-like ending to it, so it's not just the end that of entire faction quest-line that has one. Personally I preferred DC faction quests, although Stromhaven I would skip if had to do it again, AD are a close second on quests but EP imo are a power gap below both of them, then again I don't care for nord shit which pretty much makes up their last 2 zones.

The enitre harborage questline is just instanced dungeon-like solo quests where you get sent to different "realms" to fuck daedric shit up.
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>>167820938
Its fucking XCOM tier even with the passive skills
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>>167838927
I'm glad I'm not the only one reminded of XCOM with this shit.

>max pickpocketing
>khajiit
>best possible chances I can get
>still fail 95%'s left and right
>mfw
Every night is fucking rookie night in ESO. At least I don't get gutted with plasma fire here when missing the easiest possible percentages I can arrange.
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>>167839058
I find it funny that I seemed to have a better time with a 70% chance
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>gold edition drops to 25 shekels
>the DLC pack is still 35
Well thanks, I guess.
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>>167839918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdmLVZR42CY
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>>167836960
>>167837879

The connection between Lorkhan/Lorkhaj, The Void/Fadomai/Padomay and Namiira/Namira/The Great Darkness gets even more intressting when you look at the Khajiit creation mythos.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Words_of_Clan_Mother_Ahnissi

>Ahnurr caught Fadomai while she was still birthing, and he was angry. Ahnurr struck Fadomai and she fled to birth the last of her litter far away in the Great Darkness. Fadomai's children heard what had happened, and they all came to be with her and protect her from Ahnurr's anger.
And Fadomai gave birth to Lorkhaj, the last of her litter, in the Great Darkness. And the Heart of Lorkhaj was filled with the Great Darkness. And when he was born, the Great Darkness knew its name and it was Namiira.

I don't know what to make out of it all.
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>>167841209
>>167837879
>>167836960
>>167836836
Khajiit are fucking metal holy shit.

Remember that Dro'Mathra quest in the EP area? All I remember is that the dro'mathra in that was badass, anyone remember the details of that quest?
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>>167839918
Where did you find it for 25?
I am looking into buying the game but dont know if i should buy the base game or the gold.
Going to play a thief so i think the Dark brotherhood and Thieves guild is what i need.
Anyone know how it will cost me the least?
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What did the elves do to this bird?
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>>167841546
I bought it from some keyseller for 23€ today. You can buy it for 25€ on their site, though. No idea about dollar prices though.
If you buy the main game you can buy the content included in the gold edition (minus the horse) for 35€ on their site (in crowns, you'd need 5500). Or you can just buy the gold edition itself.
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I have normal edition. What happens if i grab the gold edition? It seems I can purchase formyself
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>>167842203
Apparently it shouldn't work from what I've read in the forums, unless you're buying it from Steam.
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>>167842203
You get the DLC included in it.
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>>167841327
Slavery is still allowed within the pact as long as it's non-pact races. As such you have dunmers using khajiit and breton slaves. I think this is the quest you're thinking about.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Shattering_Mirror
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>>167841565
Where did you find this?
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Is this game as much of a shitty pile of garbage as I imagine? Will there ever be a spiritual successor to Morrowind?
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Elves? Magic? Vampires and werewolves? How did Bethesda come up with this shit, it's totally mental
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>>167845243
Depends on what you liked in Morrowind and dislike about ESO.
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>>167845382
At least there's space kittens.
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>can't play properly because I keep disconnecting
>everything else that needs internet is running fine and buttery smooth
Updates...
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Nice name Zenimax
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>>167848243
It's the sound an intern makes when they try to bring up TES lore at a meeting and they get tazed by the Loremaster.
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>>167848382
SHLICK WILL PAY
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>>167848382
I suppose it's pronounced "Cursed rub" with with a rolling r and silent u.
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>want to install game
>don't have 78gb free
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>>167848243
Ruzozuzalpamaz says hi
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>>167837754

It's all over the place. Most people in my guild are either trying to gouge, or wait until a price point emerges before selling and are hoarding.
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>>167849268
Free up 78gb then
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Anyway to figure out what these are worth?
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Guess what killed me
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>>167852056
playing with a controller
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So is anyone else experiencing this weird issue where character textures only load after you look at them for 2-3 seconds? I have no idea what the fuck is causing this, my VRAM isn't full and I even moved the goddamn game to my SSD, so I don't think it could be login related.
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>>167851093
fuck all if you've got 4, I've been check shops and skull and painting seem to have some next high drop rate compared to other shit.
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>>167852382
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>>167845382
Yes, TES is filled with generic ass fantasy shit, but it's also filled with some pretty wacky stuff found nowhere else too. So, I think it balances out.
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So im thinkin about gettin this with it bein on sale and all. Its not like WoW is it I hated WoW. Also if I get it should I get gold edition is it worth the extra 20 bucks? Also I noticed crowns or something how much "pay to win" is there? Also I loved playin thief in elder scrolls can I rob players? Is just running around robbing NPCs doable in this?
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>>167851093
You can easily sell one skull for 500k if you're fast and sell them before tomorrow. Just make sure to sell them one at a time. Where do you farm them?
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>>167854819
>Is just running around robbing NPCs doable in this?
Yes. You can ignore all the quests and go on a robbing spree. Once you feel like you've robbed and smuggled enough stuff you can get yourself a nice apartment as your base of operation to continue robbing people without ever bothering with a single quest.
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>>167855015
Cool ill probs get it. Should I get gold for the 4 DLC? Like is the imperial city dark brother hood thieves guild and Orsinium worth the extra money?
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>>167854819
the game has no p2w whatsoever. the biggest advantage you can get is probably exp scrolls and getting your mount speed maxed right away. the later is a huge waste of money though
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>>167855630
Thieves guild is right up your alley with robbing everything in sight.
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>>167855630

Oh yeah. Orsinium is fucking huge, tons of resources, and quite a bit of content. Thieves guild also has a good quest line and skills, same with DB. And imperial city is also fun, and some skills that you get from the pvp skill lines are incredibly useful (caltrops for aoe damage, war horn increases that stats of the group, vigor for healing).
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>>167855789
>imperial city is also fun
no it's not
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Made a tall and muscular as possible altmer but she kinda looks relatively old (she got like the hair bound to a knot).
Would a younger look better for this type of body?
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>>167856251

>t. Got killed by a gankblade
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>>167856369
Whoops forgot a "be" in there
Also maybe I should mention that I'm a vampire
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Do I have to buy a subscription over Steam if my account is connected with it?
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>>167841327
Easily one of the most memorable quests I encountered early on. It gave me serious The Thing vibes, what with how the Dro-m'Athra kept jumping around, killing and mimicking someone new.

It made prior encounters with them seem a little lackluster in comparison because they never were quite as terrifying as that one who could just chestburst anyone it pleased and become them.
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>>167856920

No idea, I bought it from zenimax directly during a sale. I read somewhere that if steam was down, you couldn't log in to the game, even if the zenimax servers were up. Not sure if that is still the case.
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>>167856920
No, I've brought the game off stream and have used both a pre-paid card sent to me as fucking .jpg off a key seller and now currently I get my sub straight from ZO$
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>>167857151
Jesus, I've run through the entire EP questline 4 or 5 times and this is the first time I've seen those models

Is the black floating thing still a black floating thing?
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>>167705872


I loved Oblivion, did't like skyrim too much because of all the grey uninteresting snow areas. How does the gameplay compare to these 2? Can I just pick a character and do what I want or do I have to min max like in Oblivion?

Can I play this solo or do I have to play with others? Any differences between PC and Xbone versions?

About the plus membership. Is this the only way to get Crowns? Do I need crowns?
The DLC seems like a bad bonus If I buy the Gold version or are there hundreds of mini dlc?
I don't care about some xp bonus.
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>>167854909
I got them from killing cultists with the blade of woe. I got one about every 20ish
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Just bought the game, what am I in for?
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>>167862150
Pretty good MMO
Alright to Subpar TES game

>>167860803
ESO actually has better gameplay than mainline TES games (in my opinion) combat feels nice perhaps spammy at times with the light/heavy attacks but nothing new to TES.

You can play a majority of the game solo, only dungeons/trials really require a group and dungeons have a group finder.

PC gets updated before console versions do, also has access to UI mods which can be lifesavers

You can outright buy crowns from the store (sometimes they go on sale). If you buy the gold edition you are only missing Shadows of the Hist DLC which is just two argonian dungeons so not a big loss for a solo player. The 4 DLCs that come with gold edition are:

Orsinium - good solo campaign, big PvE zone, Maelstrom Arena which is endgame weapon farming. Good value overall

Imperial City- 2 PvE dungeons which are pretty good, rest is a PvP zone in Cyrodiil (PvP area). Okay if you are a PvPer

Thieves Guild - 1 12 man Trial (kinda like a raid) as well as the Thieves Guild storyline (decent) and the skill line (non combat related) Decent value as a quest pack.

Dark Brotherhood - DB Quests/Skill lines (non combat) decent value as a quest pack but kinda slim. Good if you enjoy DB in mainline games.

That's it for the DLC, everything else in the store is pretty much cosmetic or cash grabs for morons. Subscription is really handy if you are going to Craft shit but otherwise not so much if you buy Gold Edition.
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>>167860803

>One region is snowy like skyrim, but you also have islands, forests, deserts, hellscapes, etc.

>With tamriel one, you can go anywhere you want, as shit scales to you

>You can play solo. Some areas might be more challenging, and some group content like dungeons may not be soloable, but there is dungeon finder

>Play on PC if you can, add-ons really help to address some of the games issues, like making the UI easier to understand, the guild vendors easier to find what you need, etc.

>Gold edition gets you the DLC (except for the Hist dungeons, which are for higher levels anyway), and if you can get it on sale is a good deal. If you get the base game and sub, you get access to the DLC, but only as long as you are subbed. I bought the gold on sale and don't pay for anything, though I am thinking about it now for the crafting bag.
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>>167862680
>>167862908

What about minmaxin? Is it a must or can I just do this and that as I please?

Can I make an Illsuionist poison archer Or just a plain thief sneaking, pickpocketing and hand to hand If I feel like it without being kicked in the nuts?
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>>167863347

Minmax only really applies if you are trying to do things like leaderboards, the hardest trials, etc., since an extra 3% on top of your stats/regen can make a difference. Best advice is you decide what type of character that you want, stamina or magicka, then pick a race that has passives that help that. You don't have to, but it does make a bit of difference.
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>>167863347
There aren't any of the non-combat schools of magic really, you just have Destruction Staves and Class Abilities, also no unarmed. You can sneak around and pickpocket though.

Basically the balancing for classes is divided into two categories based on the resource used for the skill.

>Stamina skills scale off your Max Stamina
>Magicka skills scale off your Max Magicka

You also have Weapon/Spell damage, Critical %, Phys/Spell penetration and then buffing certain types of damage, but really you are either a Stamina based class or a Magicka one.
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My boi has an Xbone, cause he's full pleb, cross play isn't available right? I can't play with him?
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>>167864014
Nope, sorry.
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Is spamming dolmens the best way to grind CP atm?
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>>167864147
Figured, thanks
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>>167863347
minmax is important for end game content. It's advisable to use a race tied to the attribute you'd like to use

if magicka - altmer is unequivocally the best race. Close second is dunmer if DK, and breton is a distant 3rd

for stamina - arguments could be made for orc, khajiit, or bosmer, but redguard trumps them all in normal circumstances

Everything else is trash
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>>167864702
Argonians make excellent healers, orcs make good crafters
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>>167860451
They updated them with One Tamriel to use the models from MoL. The Dro-m'Athra in Reaper's March likewise use them.

It's been a while since I've done the quest but I think the black thing is still a nebulous orb of blackness.
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>>167864702
t. dps shitter
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>>167865136
how is making a dedicated crafting character even relevant? (this was a joke and i got trolled right?)

5% increased healing isnt that big of a deal when you have no sustain, and a much lower resource pool

I know some people use argonian for that potion armor set, but thats niche

>>167865392
not even an argument. Tell me how what i said was in any way inaccurate. Or are you just some turbo-autist RPer?
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>>167865631
You didn't make an argument yourself.

Imperials followed by Argonians makes the best tanks due to their resource management. All their racial passives benefit a tank.
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>>167864702
Bretons make great healers however due to that magicka pool increase. Also decent PVP bonuses such as spell resist
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>>167864237
Or would farming mobs/pub dungeons be better? Really wanting to get 160 out of the way, and I'm at 133 now
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>>167866382
bretons are less equipped then altmers because they have less bonus magicka pool, less regen, and with diminishing returns on reduced magicka cost, that passive is made moot by champion points

>>167866064
Imperials red diamond is inferior to redguards, and argonians have no resource management in site. Having to drink a potion to regain resources is clunky and doesn't work well in practice.

In addition, other magicka classes have better sustain, and attributes more suited to casting spells for DPS purposes. Argonians are simply too niche to be usable by a new player looking to maximize efficiency.
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About to play for the first time.

Which Alliance do i pick?

Also, i usually play either a stealth class or a healer, is there a way to combine both and still be a viable healer for the hardest PvE content?
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>>167866064
also, what kind of retarded statment is
>You didn't make an argument yourself.

I wasn't attempting to make an argument because I was stating facts. All you said was hurr durr shitter!", as if that somehow invalidated my opinion

get fucked
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>>167868712
No, choose one stamina or magicka. Choose a class. If its not templar, its not a healer. If it's not a nightblade, it can't stealth
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>>167868901
How are nightblades in PvP/PvE?
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>>167869187
stam nightblades dominate in PVP, but are hard to level solo until you can get rally

magicka nightblades I hear are in a tough spot right now, but i dont play one
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i want this game but am broke ;__; played the first beta test and i found out i got a monkey for doing so. i love monkeys.
and the elder scrolls
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I was wondering, is DK actually viable as DPS or Healer?
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can this game be played on a toaster
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>>167870104
Runs fine on this piece of shit
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>>167870557
i might cave and get it. fuck. 30 dollars is so expensive for me though
FUCK
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>>167868554
Magicka recovery is a useless skill to have as it doesn't benefit you at all when you have your skills laid out. Altmers also have only bonuses for Damage, not healing. Diminishing returns on reduced magicka cost is superior to magicka regen which is going to be low anyways because you're not going to enchant gear with magicka regen but rather magicka cost reduction. Guess they had to give the Altmer one useless bonus to balance them. Additionally that extra spell resist means that as a healer Bretons don't have to worry as much about their health and can focus on the part. Bretons are superior thus as healers. Altmers however outshine all in regards to Magicka damage.
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>>167869995
Both are good yeah. Depending on what you mean by viable, I wouldn't bring DK healer to vet trials but everything else should be good.

>>167868554
Bretons have the same bonus pool as Altmer btw.
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>>167869980
>>167870816
someone talk me out of buying this game
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>>167871963
Its an elder scrolls game thats not as good as Oblivion/Morrowind but better than Skyrim. It also is good enough of an MMO that it's a massive timesink
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>>167872189
i really want to just explore the world and story solo as i would roleplay in the hundreds of hours i've invested into morrowind, but fuck. 30 dollars is a real dent in my funds.
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Should I take dizzying swing or wrecking blow on my DK?
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Just got this gold edition, for £15 cos I had steam money from an early access refund. Been looking for a good buy to play MMO for a while, and I have to say this general is a lot nicer and more helpful than most other ones I've looked at for other games.

Looking forward to starting this up in 30 mins when it finishes downloading. Hope you veterans are ready for the influx of newbies and questions that the sale will bring.
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I have an account from the beta tests and want to buy the full game. Will the reward of the pet monkey apply to any character I make? Or how does that work?
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>>167871551
>>167871235
but no one really wants to be a "healer" full time. Which means breton is a subpar choice if you have to level with the damn thing, and also want to DPS every once in a while, or PVP.

breton's are marginally better healers, but worse overall
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>always play an Imperial
>they're DLC in ESO but that's manageable
>only faction that would make sense for one is the DC
>already did all the DC quests on my orc
I want to die, man
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>>167873430
>but no one really wants to be a "healer" full time
Look you should have just said "I like to heal and DPS so Altmer works better for me because of the damage bonus"
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>>167873574
Make a DC Imp and then just wander off and go the other faction's quest. It doesn't matter.
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Have any of you guys gotten the adventure upgrade?
do the treasure maps appear on one character or can all of your characters use them?
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>>167873241

Yes, your pets go into the collection tab, you can pull it out on any character. Costumes, purchased hairstyles and face hair and some cosmetic hats, and mounts are also in the collection panel, it's account wide.

Achievements are NOT account wide but some rewards from achievements are (memoriabilia emotes like those you get from public dungeons, and dyes), but not titles.
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So I've been in the mood for an RPG/MMO and saw this thing on sale.

>Can this be enjoyed solo and with just a couple of friends?
>Is there a pet and or summoning class?
>Does the game run well?
>How much build variety is there among the 4 classes?
>Is the game like Guild Wars 2 ie. mostly dead, filled with furry ERP weirdos, and only the cash shop is supported by the developers?
>Should I get if from Steam or straight from the games website? Can I run Steam in offline mode and still play the game?
>Is any of the shit in the Gold version worth spending an extra $12 on or will the standard version suffice?
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>>167874739
>>Is the game like Guild Wars 2 ie. mostly dead, filled with furry ERP weirdos, and only the cash shop is supported by the developers?
Fortunately, no.
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>>167875031
where do i go if i want to erp? i've never played an mmo before. do i have to choose some sort of server? are there rp servers?
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>>167873430
>but no one really wants to be a "healer" full time
I absolutely want to be a healer full time, and it actually works well in ESO vs other ES games with NPC companions.

I also just like avoiding combat in general, stealth can be a little wonky in this game, like when there's enemies grouped in small linear cave hallways, but Invisibility potions are perfect for that.
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>>167868554
>Imperials red diamond is inferior to redguards
So you're just going to ignore the other passives, the ones that matters when you're tanking trial bosses you have to permablocking against? The kind of content where race matter the most and where 12% extra health and 10% extra stamina shits all over solely 10% extra stamina?

Ok.

Your problem with drinking potions sounds like a l2p issue to me.

>>167868775
You didn't state facts because you're wrong.
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>>167874223
>Buying shit in a free to play game
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>>167875179

Go to another game.
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>>167875179
You go up to any Khajiiti player and type:
/emote *pulls tail*
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>>167875326
you can't make me!
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>>167874739
It's most enjoyable with a buddy or two, but still pretty fun solo

Sorcerer has a scamp(or clannfear, mutually exclusive) and winged twilight. Also a storm atronach. The upcoming Warden gets a bear.

It runs pretty well on my shitty rig, ymmv

They can all be played with any weapon, magicka or stamina works.

There are ERPers, probably furry ones. Not too many. Patches have fun stuff for non cash shop players too.

The DLCs add new zones and questlines. Pretty fun in my opinion. Thieve's guild adds a good skill line for criminals.
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is this fun as a singleplayer game? this determines if i buy it or not, really. i want to roleplay as i would in an actual TES game (Morrowind)
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One Hand + Rune has been datamined...
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>>167874739

Yes, you can play through a lot of story content just as if it were a single player elder scrolls game, just without the ability to mod in new quests or change the world with mods (UI mods only). If you have 3 friends then you have a full group for dungeons.
Sorcerer can summon daedra as permanent combat followers, you can summon both a scamp/clannfear (same skill clannfear is a morph of the scamp skill), and a winged twilight at the same time and you can temporarily summon a storm atronach as an ultimate skill but it's stationary, kind of a combination nuke and temporary turret. The new Warden class coming with the expansion will summon bears.
Yes, the game is pretty well optimized, though I notice that if I have it running and alt tab, everything else runs really slowly.
Tons of possible build variety, your class is basically just 3 skill lines, but there are over a dozen skill lines, every weapon configuration and every armor class are each their own skill lines plus each guild is its own skill line, each active skill has a base version and when you max out your skill with it, it can be morphed into 1 of 2 different alterations of the skill (like a damage skill might have 1 version that gives some splash damage and another version that makes it still single target but more efficient and powerful) but as with everything there are "meta" builds.
No, game seems to be pretty lively though I never saw GW2 as really dead either. But there's a new expansion on the way and they sell extra content as DLC so they do actively work on new content.
I don't have it on steam so I can't really say yes or no there, but some people have said not to run it through steam for some cash shop reason or another.
If gold edition is the same as Imperial edition... I like having imperial race as an option, and imperial style.
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>>167875782
We Spellsword now?
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>>167874223

the adventure upgrade came for free for me because I prepurchased before launch you can use the maps on any character, but you only get 1 copy, I think.

Unless you were like me and got hit with a nasty bug after launch where I got a second adventurer's pack mailed to me, but I lost my entire bank contents and extra slots that I'd bought (they did give me a fair amount of gold in refund eventually). That bug was awful though.
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>>167875717

if you get the thieves guild and dark brotherhood DLC's, yeah I think it plays pretty well as a single player game.
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>>167876713
how much gold did they give you?
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>>167876926

like 60k, this was at launch so that was a substantial amount of money.
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>>167875782
Ill be impressed if they bring hybrids back, I know you can do it as emperor.
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Is the Craglorn thief grind still worthwhile?
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>>167875782
I can't contain my boner. This have been discussed on the forums and I've asked about it myself.
>>167877898
It's not a lot they have to change. Easiest way would probably be to have the damage in 1h+ rune scale with weapon damage and max magicka, instead of spell damage and magicka or weapon damage and stamina.
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>>167879245

As long as it's as viable as one hand and shield for tanking (taunt, major fracture, etc.) combined with warden ice line, it could be a viable alternative to Do ya king end game.
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>>167727172
>anon sells blue fish for 20k
>try to sell it for 10 k in /zone a day later and get laughed at
That feel when I have lots of luck in finding valuable things but can't ever sell them to make money.
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>>167880769

Sold one for 5k last night. Recipes are still going strong, mats are leveling out, but individual pieces have dropped significantly.
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>>167882068
I'm posting blue recipes for 7k and no responses
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>>167882816

Best bet is to go to a high population zone and ask for a price check. If anyone has an MM log, then you are bones. No Mm log, then go for it. Some blue recipes are rarer than the others, and I've gotten better prices off of high elf, dunmer, and Breton recipes. Argonian and orc don't sell as well, and bosmer doesn't sell quite as low, but still not ideal.
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>>167880341
yeah but that would make it full hybrid as in you'd have to go hybrid and nothing else, you couldn't go full stam+weap dmg

>>167880341
well I guess it'll be a new item slot, like sets will come in "runes" because I dont see how else it's going to work
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>>167883281
I listed a blue ritual candlestick and it sold for 25k in a day.

listed a couple of greens at varying prices, but no bites so far.
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>another boring generic fetch quest game
>its totally different because it has voice acting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thinking of picking this game up since it's on sale. I have never really played an MMO, the closest I got was MMO-Lite Destiny and GTA:O (hated it, everything is expensive and you must grind to have fun).

I want to try a real MMO since I haven't enjoyed any games in about the past year so maybe it's time to try something radically new.

I am not familiar with MMOs & how characters work in them. I want to make either a high damage two-handed warrior that does a lot of damage in one hit or a knight spellsword, think like a knight MLGS build in Dark Souls that does magic melee dam with some side magic to get you by.

1. Can I do either of these in ESO?
2: What race + class + faction + guild do I pick to achieve either of these?
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So does anyone here use AUI?
If yes does someone know how to fix the crystal fragment proc bug?
sound appears randomly and the skill lightens up very often while it didn't even proc.
As you can imagine this is extremely off-throwing.
Maybe i should just switch to LUI
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>>167885281
I've been sold that "you can be anything" meme but it seems somehow restricted on what can you do. Bumping this
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>>167885281
Stam sorc redguard/orc will make your dreams come true.
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>do quests
>some of them dont even get XP
>generic "go there talk that do this kill that x times" with absolute garbage XP rewards
>get a headache from the broken contrast the game has, graphics are literally LOTRO tier in some areas
>those animations
>those models
>combat is slow and quite boring
>literally zero motivation to go through ANOTHER mmo that has just MORE fucking fetchquests after the 500 mmos before it

now i understand why everyone hated it at launch

i dont know if it gets any better later on but the beginning is absolutely unbearable. holy shit.
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>>167879245
or why couldn't they add a weapon enchant skill that worked like igneous but increased weapon dmg based off of max magicka or something?
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>>167885638
quit now desu, dont get any better.
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>>167875285
guaranteed a DK/dunmer or redguard could do it better than imperial. I've never heard of that small amount of extra health being relevant

>drinking potions
It's shit because it forces you to sustain off of a potion you might not be able to use when you need it. Having a potion on cooldown because you can't sustain for shit, and then all the sudden needing it for health or a buff timer means you're fucked when you need it most.

its better to have more sustain in the first place
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>>167885605
I can dig Orc.

Redguards are unaesthetic.
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So I am going to have a full on dick ass thief, I'm not playing for meta pve or pvp shit, I just want to steal

Night's Silence + Night Mother's Embrace?
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>>167733520
>10 frame buffering

what the fuck were they thinking
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>>167799391
Has your girlfriend seem the new legion zones? Better graphics and art style than eso imo.
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Damn CP 160 mats are so hilariously easy to farm. I didn't have such impression with lower level mats, probably because they weren't so glaringly red. I literally just walk from node to node, don't even need HarvestMap for that. Also Rubedo scraps are really easy to farm on mudcrabs too, and as a bonus I get chitins, Bast and rubedite items to sell or decon.
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>>167885638
>>167885861

>just bought the game
>downloading it now
>see this

:(
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>>167886610
night terror jewelry gets you a 2m detection radius reduction, you just need to run a couple of dolmens in stomhaven for rings + necklace.

night's silence is good. haven't bothered collecting nme.
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>>167886915
also lmao at chest abundance in Khenarthi's Roost, looks like the newbies don't have lockpicks :^)
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>>167886813
>better art style
>everyone is square with armor like watermelons and nerf swords and axes
are you for real
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>>167886968

Night Mother's Embrace gives the same 2m detect thing, but it's a 5 set bonus instead but it gives weapon damage .. I suppose night terror would be better if you get a monster helm/shoulder, and you just wear night terror rings/amulet... but for the time being I don't have that and I got some night mother's embrace purples for pretty cheap.
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>>167885638
This is the worse MMO ever made. Get out of here and go play dota.
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>>167887696

or I could stack them apparently, but then I lose the night's silence bonus of not being slow when sneaking.
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>>167887768
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>>167886956

I've been playing MMOs for 15 years, and this is a pretty good one. Pay attention to the story, enjoy it, and don't powerlevel your first character.
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Would it be better to get the adventure upgrade or the imperial upgrade?
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>>167886956
I just replied that because if that how they sees it then there no changing their mind, when you boil everything down to go to A and do B because C, then your already a lost cause and literally everything ever is going look and feel like a chore.
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>>167889274
imperial lets you craft in imperial style (and convert crafted items to imperial if you find they look ugly), play an imperial character, and buy imperial style houses.

adventure pack lets you PvP as your favorite race in an alliance outside their own.
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>>167869550
magicka nightblades got a buff to twisting path, but their biggest downfall is they have no passives to increase elemental damage and the elemental monster sets aswell as blockade are still meta.
With the jesus beam nerf they might have the best magicka execute atm though, not sure

>>167873430
>>167868554
>I will only ever pick minmax races but not for healers or tanks

Lead with that next time, bud

>>167886152
>dunmer
>better than argonian

Time to lay off the skooma, friend. Once again, just because they're meta for DPS does not mean they meta for tanking.

Healing done & recieved + max health and magicka + potion resources > bonus flame damage and magicka/stam

Stick with your argument for redguard; it held more water than dark elf.
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>>167890026
>convert crafted items to imperial if you find they look ugly

Wut meen?
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Console user here Is this game worth the buy?
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>>167890383

Right click a piece of gear, there's an option to "convert to imperial style" and it looks like the imperial motif. Doesn't work with dropped set equipment though.
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>>167890383
>craft set in bosmer style
>try to color it, still looks ugly
>right click, convert to imperial
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>>167890842
Can you do that with monster shoulders as well?
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>>167891018
No.
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does all of the game look like Skyrim or what? i mean generic high fantasy shit instead of what the Elder Scrolls actually is half the time in the core series
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>>167890602
console eso player here, yes
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>>167891179
The Rift and Eastmarch look like skyrim. Stonefalls looks like Morrowind. Alik'r Desert looks like a desert.

Cyrodiil and most of the breton areas are pretty standard fantasy looking, along with what we've seen of the Altmer areas.

Vvardenfell looks like it's gonna be pretty faithful too.
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that good feel when defeating CP 600's in duels on my CP 240 mag sorc
I will miss him after conversion to frost pet mage
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>>167890026
So it sounds that imperial is by far the better deal
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>>167891970
is the scale of the world on par with the games? like, is cyrodil bigger or smaller than it was in Oblivion?
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>>167892125
Only if you want to shell out for aesthetic
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>>167891110
So unless you go costume you're stuck with that ugly shit?
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>>167892353
More or less.

It's hard to gauge just because the camera is handled so differently and movement speed likely doesn't line up with the mainline games at all.

I'm anticipating the biggest complaint when Vvardenfell hits being that 'it feels small', but it's just because you're forced to walk that much slower in that game. Hopefully they scale up the area to compensate for that, or better yet disable mounts and enable silt striders
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>>167892959
looked up mounts and such. im personally a fan of slower walking speeds for immersion reasons, so i can guess that im not the mmo demographic at all. be that as it may, just how hard is it to get a mount like a guar?
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>>167892353
http://esomap.uesp.net/esomap.html?world=252&zoom=8

Some parts are made more exaggeratedly big to accommodate PvP, but since the main "Cyrodiil" zone also isn't quite all of Cyrodiil it's hard to compare. The Gold Coast (Kvatch and Anvil) are given their own zone and the eastern end including Bravil and Leyawiin aren't in yet (Bravil is actually on the map but its just a partial model you can't get to)

Lack of wayshrines (fast travel) also make it feel bigger, but sometimes the looming dread of getting ganked by another player can be fun.
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>>167893475
There's no inherent difference between all the mounts, so guar is considered cosmetic and is crown store only.
You can buy the cheap horse pretty quickly though, and all the upgrades to it would transfer to the guar if you ended up getting it.

Mounts are pretty necessary for PvP, but there are plenty of ways to gain increased run speed that rival a non-upgraded mount anyway
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>>167893475
I agree with you on slow walking speeds, I believe there's a toggle walk/run option for keyboard controls and variable speed using a stick on the controller.

Pretty sure Guar mounts can only be bought from the cash shop unfortunately, the mounts you can buy with in-game gold are all horses.
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>>167894000
how do i get crowns ;__; is it cash shop shit? can it be traded for other things? fuck. i just want to immerse myself as a dark elf, a pack guar, my beta monkey and play the game solo.
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So hows PvP, is it a total meme or is it an okay addition to spend time in??
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>>167894203
yes
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>>167894104
yeah unfortunately. Crowns occasionally go on sale and i think you get 500 free with the game, so even without a discount it's less than $10.
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>>167894335
...yes...
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>>167894512
is there something i should spend starting crowns on, or could i put it towards a guar
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>>167894203
Super fun once you get a handle on it. If you can, get a friend/mentor/pug wrangler to guide you through it and play with you. Best served with a really good leader. Read some guides and choose a good pvp build that isn't just a bow and light attacking everything.
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>>167885605
Okay so I officially purchased the gold edition gaem.

Should I go Orc or did you just meme me?
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is there player housing in this game
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>>167895526
yes, just came out on PC, out on the 21st on console
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>>167895526
Yes

Trainwiz
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>>167895647
what about trainwiz?
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>port to Daggerfall
>see level 4 player
>not an alt; no food buff and character name same as account name
>title: Lord
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>>167895524
He might have memed you. Stamsorc orc is the sanic build for going fast.
From what I know, two-handed weapons are best for pvp, but outclassed in pve. Spellswords are a bit weird in general, because you either go full stam, or full mag, never both. Melee is generally stam, while mag builds go more for staves or dual wield with mag class skills. There's a number of magic skills that have stamina morphs. I'm not sure how to get to what you might want in particular, it's not quite as easy as just making a generic two-handed build and being successful.
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>tfw no money for game
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>>167895647
What?
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The elder scrolls is fun
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>>167895787
probably meant to link >>167804176

also, general fun skeleton massacre event: >>167299670
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>>167896217
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>>167896028
>I'm not sure how to get to what you might want in particular, it's not quite as easy as just making a generic two-handed build and being successful.

Hmm. Can you at least point me in the direction in terms of race and class?
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>>167895137
nah, the only things in the crown store worth buying are the dlcs which also go on sale themselves, and for a solo player, only the guilds and orsinium would really be worth getting, and even then there's zero need to get them immediately
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Is it not possible to play the Steam version in offline mode anymore? Tried to login and now it's telling me I need to login through Steam.

Used to be able to just click on the .exe and go from there.
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>>167892834
Yes. But WE CAN CRAFT FURNITURE TO OUR FUCKING HOUSES, AREN'T THAT GOOD, EH, EH?
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>>167899182
>nipples
>on a taiwanese tapestry weaving forum

uncouth
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>>167896596
Discover there is a class that allows you to throw "javelins of light"

>MFW

Class decided
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>>167899572
DO NOT GO STAMPLAR
I repeat DO NOT
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>>167899912
Fak u gooby
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>>167896753
does gold edition not give me every dlc there is? but with that information, does that mean its possible to buy the Morrowind expansion through trading around ingame currency?
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>>167900831
oh, gold edition is great for solo players; if you have that you're laughing.

Morrowind will have to be purchased on its own once it drops
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>>167901068
i don't have it yet ;__; hopefully i can raise the funds before the steam sale ends, but it doesn't seem likely at this rate. i want to play solo so bad
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I'm new to tanking in ESO. Should I be dumping all of my points into stamina for more blocking potential? I'm a sorc if that makes a difference.
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fuck this shit, I haven't sold a single item in my guild in a while, and I posted high-demand items like hissmir recipe, aetherial dust, some good set items, furnishings, all at reasonable prices
What do? I can't join a top trading guild since they won't some insane selling quotas.
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>>167900831

Gold edition gives you Imperial City, Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, and Orsinium. It doesn't give you the 2 hist DLC's, but those are high end dungeons anyway, so you won't need them for a while.
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>>167902190

Silly question, but did you make sure that your guild has a trader up? Is it in a decent place? If your guilds trader is say in Mistal on Khenarthi's Roost, no one is going to go looking for high end mats at the AD starter island.
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Typical fucking nord.
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>>167904852
DUDE
MEAD
LMAO
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>>167904852
ugh...racist... >_>
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>>167904775
>tfw guild trader is out in the middle of fucking nowhere in ghratwood.
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>>167906635
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>just started playing eso today
>stats are inflated from the getgo with weapons having +1000 damage at level fucking 1
>level 600 players can duel and not one shot you and it still takes them 30 years to damage you
>literally impossible to die to any mob in the world
>certain quests are "talk to this person who sends you to another person to talk to a person about a person thats doing a thing to a person who you need to talk to that sends you to the first person" seven times and you only get a generic low level green at the end of it and fuck all for experience
>half of the first npcs you meet are ghosts for some reason
>you get a mount at level 1 but only sometimes? (friend bought the gold edition as well but couldnt use the horse)
>it takes 78 fucking years to aim with a bow because your character has to pull it out of their ass every single time they want to shoot
>the camera is jagged and super fucking fast, nothing having hitboxes just makes everything run through you and fuck your camera
>there's nowhere to vendor your shit until the first major city which is a pit stop

how the fuck can you people play this?
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>ping going up to 999+
>under 200 on other games

well I guess I didn't want to play eso anyway.. I mean my connection is shit but it shouldn't be THAT shit.
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>>167909292
It's like you've never played a tes game before.
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>>167909292
>horses are nearly the exact same speed as sprinting
>magical weapon charges almost never run out even though you get a soul stealing move at level fucking 2
>bounties make no sense, half the bounty drops when you kill the last witness but not the full thing?
>the npcs you're even allowed to attack or pickpocket is random at best
>cant loot over 90% of the mobs in the game
>random things that have no reason to be phased are (early on there's a corpse you have to investigate in a cave, on other players screens the same named npcs corpse can appear at opposite ends of the cave)
>costumes in the shop exist but theyre all the most plain and unoriginal clothes to exist
>character customization is more dumbed down than fucking rift
>you have to buy generic patch content in an mmo
>>167909595
i've played oblivion and skyrim. you dont start out with health and damage in the thousands and npcs can actually hurt you if your difficulty isnt set on "i'm a baby". aiming with a bow doesnt take NEARLY as fucking long and the camera is slower and less jagged in the other games partially due to npcs having hitboxes. You also start out right next to the big city where you can vendor shit but your starting area didnt flood your bags with random shit like it does in eso so it doesnt matter anyways
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I just bought the game.

Any suggestion what is the most alpha Faction and most fun class?

And ofc, what is the aryan race? High elves?
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>>167909806
nord is the aryan race. refund the game
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>>167909742
>>167909292
Oh well,this isn't the game for you.
Best go play something else instead.
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>>167909869
but nords are filthy unintelligent white niggers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MnhhBoioCI
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>>167910037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cERzRhsCbV8
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Is there anyone who's a vampire willing to bite a new player?
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>>167909292
>hi I'm a scrub
>I don't know how the game scales
>I didn't know the game babies me until later
>I skip dialogue because I play this to tell people I play this
>my friends are retards who can't figure out horses
>I'd rather be playing an fps
>what is mouse sensitivity?
>I can't press M to find the seven shops near the starting location in each faction

>>167909742
>why would I need to reserve stam?
>soul gems are for restoring weapon charges only!
>I have never played a TES game
>I have trouble with pattern recognition

wow senpai good to know thanks for the blog

hope it gets better from here on out, maybe if you read and let your balls drop you'll recover, somehow
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>>167910363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXVi6gxoRiI
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>>167910705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETbPcw_r420
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N'wah
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>buy a key from the humble store
>log into account
>try redeem key
>get placed back at the store page
Well this game is off to a great start for me.
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>>167912757
buy it again.
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>>167913631
I was honestly going to buy another copy for my brother tomorrow but if I can't even redeem the key it's not happening.
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>>167912757
>>167913774
Is it a steam key or a direct ESO key?
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>>167913889
Direct key
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>>167912757
Your browser is probably too secure from javascript and other cancer. Try it with a fresh and unprotected chrome
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>>167891980
What were their alliance rank tho? Could've just been a PvE-er
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>>167915705
Nah, I tried with with chrome, ie, and edge with no success. I just made a new account and it worked there though. Apparently if you have an old beta account they're fucked up now. You can't even buy a game from their shop while you're logged into one.
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Anything I should get with my 500 starting crowns? I highly doubt ill ever buy more.
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>>167916078
i'm cp700 and have a hm maw clear

i have been beaten by cp300s in duels
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buy me this game please
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>>167916851
get a job, hippy
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>>167916891
i can't :( i got responsibilities that don't pay
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>>167916650
Yeah, that just means your shit at PvP/duels, same might go for the CP 600 guy.

High CP =/= good at dueling or PvP.
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where can i find info on what key fragment vaults contain? can't find shit
>>
so are writs worth doing now? i remember a couple patches ago i stopped because it wasn't profitable doing it
>>
what's player housing like? do i actually have to buy property? am i wisped away to a pocket dimension where my house is? or is there a house in the overworld everyone lives in but can only enter alone?
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>>167918217
Yes, to all of your questions.
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>>167916238
There's nothing of value
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>>167917757
Provision, alchemy and enchantment are worth doing. The other ones are fairly rng heavy.
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can someone tell me if there is an max level like in wow? And is pvp balanced?
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>>167921056
There's the level cap which is 50

Then there's the gear cap which is Champion Point 160.

Then there's the Champion Point allotment cap which is 600.

Then there's the Champion Point cap which is 3600.

Don't worry about reaching 3600, I'm pretty sure no one has reached that. You should just aim to level to 50, and then get 160 CP. When you reach that, you won't have to worry about out leveling gear so you can grind/craft gear sets. Just playing normally will gain you CP so CP 600 will come naturally.

PvP is not in a good spot right now. There are things like 1 shot builds where you can't counter them and unkillable tanks. Sure you can have fun playing PvP as do I, but I'm just telling you the types of builds out there.
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>>167921369
>one shot builds you can't counter
>unkillable tanks

So why not one shot the unkillable tank?
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>>167921446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oPsvq81n2A
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>>167921446
impossible because then he'd have to be killable, thus unable of earning the moniker
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>>167827889
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>>167921446
When you try to one-shot an unkillable tank you simply miss. So we will never know what happens when a one shot build attacks an unkillable tank.
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>>167854819
Well. Since you already said that you love being a thief in TES games I have some great news for ya:

The Gold Edition includes the DLCs and one of them is The Thieves Guild, with the thieves guild armor and everything. All you can ever want to be a dick ass thief.
>>
>>167920132
Ah screw it think I should just buy a crate and try my luck. Or just get a little piggy to follow me around.
>>167922326
I actually got gold and im running around killin stuff now breedy fun.
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reminder that pvp in eso is some of the worst ever created
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>>167917047
that's precisely what i meant by my post
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>>167871963
I can't, man.

send help
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>>167922726
If you had fun what's the issue.
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>>167872909
Sure, lad. Come right in and don't forget to join the guild.
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>>167875782
OH GOD PLEASE YES
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Should I play this game on PS4 or PC?
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Welp I decided to use my starter crowns on a crate cause fuck it nothing else was that good. At least the lizard is cute right?
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>>167922745
The issue is that I can't stop playing, I love this game so much.
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>>167923384
PC~
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>>167923403

Indeed. And the XP scroll will come in handy later.
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>>167923403
this is what i got from my first crate

Is this normal?
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>>167923403
Yep, the Lizard is cute and you can't get it trough the crownstore atm so there's that.

>>167924035
It's pretty good. You got a wizard hat so you can wizard around, and a mount. The mount mean that you don't have to spend 10k to get it and can start feeding it straight away.
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>>167922726
hehehe
I've 2000 hours
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can you mod eso to look better like sweetfx or something?

thinking of buying it since its in special and lots of ppl playing it now... what video should i watch that shows what the game is about?
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>>167922801
Thanks - just got started, questing around the redguard port. Actually really impressed so far, and my breton templar is a little qt.

Once im familiar with everything il hit up the guild, waiting on the initial quests to teach me about crafting and other shit.
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>>167925703
You can, there was/is program called hook64 that greatly improved the graphics but the last update broke it, still able to get sweetfx and there's some .ini you can edit to increase graphics a bit. Good luck running uber maxed above 30 during primetime inside a city or trying to pvp.
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I'm disappointed in these lip sliders, and cheekbone slider, I was hoping to make something a bit more..
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>>167926092
isn't this bannable? Reshade is good but hook64? Sounds shady
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>>167926389
no idea, I ain't used it myself I'm to busy turning my graphic down to morrowind tier so I can actually pvp above 20fps.
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>>167926092
It's been fixed, go download the newest version.
>>167925938
>>167926389
>sweetfx
Yes, there's a lot of presets for it too.
>hook64
they said it was fine 3 years ago, and I haven't heard of anyone getting banned for it since.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/656932#Comment_656932
Hook64 used to be ESOLauncher, an FoV mod, but now the main feature of it is removing fog, pic related. That is all it really does. Doesn't modify player/creature render distance, so it's considered safe.
>>
so im guessing they are doing a sale on the game right now, because theres alot of interest due to the morrowind announcement?

30 bucks for gold edition seems rly good price
>>
>>167925938
>>167927563
Whoops, meant to reply to >>167925703
>>
You can buy the gold edition on Steam and run through the launcher independently right? Does it have to be ran through Steam?
>>
>>167929350
Yes. No. Don't even have to run launcher you can just pin/shortcut the .exe and just use the launcher for updates.
>>
>>167929452
Is it ironic that Bethesda is in bed with Steam but you have to jump through hurdles to get a ZoS game to work seamlessly with Steam?
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>>167930652
Steam and MMOs have never really worked together, something with Steam + 3rd party Launcher always shits the bed.
>>
>>167930713
It's shame. Could be something pretty good
>>
>>167930962
I think it boils down to the Steam Overlay being retarded and trying to run on the launcher itself causing issues.
>>
Too anyone that's completed the EP questline for Stonefalls, can you please recall back to when you took on the last brother of strife and when it was?
I haven't found the specific quest yet but finished the entire regions quests according to the achievements.
I'd love to know if it's a late game quest i'll get after i've finished more areas or if I have to run around stonefalls again looking for it?
>>
>>167931362
To be specific, when and/or where do I go to get the quest to kill Galyn Indoril so he doesn't summon the last brother of strife?
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>>167931362
>>167931583
Okay nevermind all that. This is embarrassing but it's Tanvil Indoril not Garyn Indoril, and doing a search of Taryn brings up what I'm meant to do Head to Kragenmoor

Kek 'm a dumb fuck.
>>
>>167927591

It is. I bought it at that price during the Christmas sale, and haven't looked back. Finally subscribed to ESO+ last night, and Jesus, why didn't I do it sooner.

>Before ESO+
>115/120 items in the bank
>After ESO+
>14 items in the bank
>>
>>167932116
If they added a different way to access just the crafting bag I'm pretty sure nobody would subscribe.
>>
>>167932116
and if you just spent time and/or money filling it was stacks and stack of mats that you'll later use, you can just cancel sub and still use the items from it, you just can't store anymore.

>get dlc with sub crowns
>180 days of getting mats and colouring costumes
>180 days of using the mats in your bag sub-free
>get 180 day sub again, fill up, get new dlc with crowns
>repeat
>>
Are you meant to get the free crowns from subbing at the start of each month or do you get them every month on the day you subbed?
>>
>>167932579
It's when you subscription is actually billed. Probably to prevent people trying to get the crowns then unsub.
>>
>>167932579

you get them on the day you subbed right away. Subs are basically you automatically buying 1500 crowns a month, with some extra perks.
>>
>>167932579
you get all the crowns for the duration of the sub on the day you subscribe, so if you sub for 180 days you get 9k crowns on that day and will get an another 9k crowns(or how ever much it is) on the day your next subscription starts. IIRC subbing is actually cheaper to get crowns than it is to buy crown packs unless they are on sale. So if you want some crowns just sub and enjoy the benefits of subbing for "free".
>>
>>167932715
Ah awesome.
It's 1500 right?
>>
>>167932773
Correct.
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>>167932748
>>167932754
>>167932836

That's great news.
I was just trying to crunch the numbers and see if I should've forked out the extra 35 for Gold instead of standard but it seems I made the right call. For once being a poorfag was a benefit
>>
>infinite loading screens requiring alt+f4 and restarting

why does this shit still happen 3 years later?
>>
>>167932980
Happens on the Xbox as well so it has to be a server side problem
>>
>>167933013

I've tried porting into Reaper's March multiple times now and it just gets stuck, been having problems getting into outlaw dens in multiple towns too.
>>
>>167933108
First few times it happened to me I thought it was because there were so many players in the immediate area, but then it started when I was pretty much alone. Always seems to happen in the most high traffic areas for me
>>
>out of fence slots for the day

should I just launder my loot and then sell it just to get more legerdemain xp? It'd be a net gain of 0 so no real big deal.
>>
>>167933341
Sure. Any little exp helps in the long run
>>
Am i doing wrong or is the leveling pretty fucking slow?

I made a nightblade, did the questline where you go into that old temple where the altmer dude is possessed, did all the quests that lead there and i did a few quests after that and i shortly before level 5 now.

Some of the quests didnt even give any experience, like i had to go to the coast and talk to dying mariners and go into a cave, none of those quests gave any experience.
>>
>>167933395
Quests only give experience at the end of the entire chain. Leveling in ESO is pretty steady albeit slow, once you can start doing dungeons and more options for daily quests open up you'll have more flat out stuff to run around and do but it will always keep a sort of slower pace.

Upside is once you actually get Level 50 the champion points past that are all account wide.
>>
What are collectibles for?

>>167933395
I've found you get the most xp from clearing dungeons or dolmens. Went up two levels last night from an hour of dolmen sitting. Give the questing a break and try that out
>>
>>167933379

I at least want to break 16.. I'm 60 points away after capping my fences for the day

only made about 30k in all.. this isn't as much money as I'd hoped, prosperous gear doesn't help all that much, I don't think it influences gold from lockboxes at all really.
>>
need a new thread
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>>167933489
>>167933456
hm i really wanted to get to 10 to take a look at the WvW to see if i like it... im someone who really dislikes slower leveling and rather does all the story stuff at max level. Guess i have to fight through.

Also, people on certain other places of the internet said this is one of the best looking MMO's right now, i really fucking wonder what these people are smoking.
>>
>>167933528
>I don't think it influences gold from lockboxes at all really

I didn't even know they did to begin with. Maybe they changed it like I heard they did with Training.

How do you make so much money though? I barely break 1k from selling loot even if most of it's green. Are you pickpocketing or b&e?
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>>167933395

Leveling is a bit slow if you do it through questing but I'd advise you quest and enjoy the experience while you're on your first character. There's not a lot of end game to rush for, I mean there's dungeons and some 12 man raids, but nothing like a dedicated hard core end game pve scene that I know of.
>>
>>167933616
>Also, people on certain other places of the internet said this is one of the best looking MMO's right now, i really fucking wonder what these people are smoking.

Honestly don't know. I enjoy the game but it's far from anywhere near as good as it's hyped up to be.

Then again with all the true mmos out there now, this is pretty good. Neverwinter and WoW aren't all that and TOR is just, well tor
>>
>>167933715
Star Trek Onlines fun and f2p but it's closer to a sp with mmo content than a true mmo.
>>
>>167933619

well I have 130 fences per day, and since I'm mostly picking lockboxes I get about 100 gold per lockbox, then I only fence greens and above. Greens for 110g, blues for 275g (10% haggling from thieves guild), haven't gotten any purples yet.. but anyway, if you fence 130 greens that's 14300, but really I'd say I fenced about 90 greens and 40 blues for a little over 20k and got about 10k in lockbox gold.
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>>167933715
i quite literally played all of them and ESO is among the ugliest. It look a shitload like LOTRO with just slightly better graphics, but it has the same cold, uninspired world that often looks very bland and scarce, no foliage and so on.

the contrast and certain other things also seem to be off.

The worst offender are the models tho, man those animations are so stiff, the movement looks so bad
>>
well someone make a new thread, I don't have any good images for OP.
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>>167933938
It could just be the starting zones so far. I've not really traveled yet, only seen Orsinium and that was pretty nice but yeah i agree for the most part, there's something off about the world. I can't quite put my finger on it but the models animations as you've pointed out seem to add to it
>>
>>167934790
>>167934790
>>167934790
>>167934790

Fine you double redguards
>>
>>167934805
To be quite honest, I can name two mmos I found that really immersed me, early SWG and EQ and I think that was more so the players than anything else
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>>167927563
>It's been fixed, go download the newest version.
ha ha ha time for graphics
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>>167926387
Give me a quick rundown on his lore.
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>>167873574
EP is fine also.
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>>167873574
source of that gif?
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