/scg/edg/ Star Space Dangerous Citizen Elite General #126: nobody

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DEV UPDATE

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326211-2-3-Dev-Update

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326211-2-3-Dev-Update

Multicrew actually sounds fun.

I'm hoping that 2.3 brings in turret variants of weapons that currently don't have any. Double C4 PAs/Railguns would be nice.

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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326211-2-3-Dev-Update

>All bounties and vouchers that the helmsman (ship owner) receives are duplicated for each crewmember, making multicrew a great way to have fun with friends without missing out on money-making opportunities.

>When joining a crew, a Commander will log out of their current vessel and transfer to the multicrew vessel, regardless of distance.

I can already hear the dads bitching

TURRETED MINE LASERS PLS

First for disappointment.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326211-2-3-Dev-Update

>only turrets and fighters
>have to outfit your ship with turrets for weapons chair to work

Atleast it's a way to grind bounties. Multicrew seems to be a meme though.

>>167082636
>>167082657
>>167082803
>>167082897
>mfw reading complaints
whoa, so this is the power of the dad

>>167082897
Each crew member brings another pip so it might be worth it either way.

>Every crewmember also has access to a power distributor pip that they can assign dynamically. This is in addition to the standard pips that the helm controls. This extra power distribution allows the ship to operate more effectively, increasing its capabilities in combat.

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>Cutter with all hardpoints being pack hounds
>Multicrew gunner can lock onto targets 360 degrees around the ship
>Never stop firing missiles even though the cutter can't turn

I want this

>>167083042
2 extra pips to shields? That will be insane if you get the same optimal strength increase as you do from 0 to 2 pips

>>167083167
taht was my first thought too

meanwhile you get 1NPC fighter and 1 player fighter, a gunner that manages your guns with 1 free pip

jesus, a full crew cutter is gonna be scary

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>>167083273
I wonder if this means we can have 6 pips into shields...

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>>167083463

>>167083463

Could a 6 Sys Engineered Cutter even be killed? I have to imagine at some point the resistances and regen of bi-weave builds would just outheal most damage.

>>167083619
cascade reverb torps say fuck you to your MJs and resistances

>>167083167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH-a0qKmOzw

It'll be like this but more hilarious

>>167083771
My ECM says differently

>>167082657
>>167082803
>Gave up this game because its boring flying solo
>Never bought horizons because who gives a fuck about moon rover mining

Can I still be a fucking turret rat if I haven't bought horizons? This might actually get me back into the game and look for friends.

>>167083993
you need to combine ECM with PD now to make it actually effective from my experience at least.

Also rails and shit exist

>>167083998
What do you think, mate?

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Some people need to be ganked back into a sidewinder

>Oh no... magic teleport-anywhere mechanics (even if only for a short time) and credit-autogenerator for passenger-cmdrs? *lesigh*
What did he mean by this?

>>167084256
>I like my decisions to have consequences

Why do I get the feeling that he is playing in Mobius.

>>167084345
No fun allowed.

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I want to sit here

>>167084543
>asp

Question: how's multicrew planned to be handled in SC?

17D is going down soon. Assemble at your nearest dock and talk shit in [Local]

have seeking weapons and seeking meds signal zone been taken out of the game?

can't seem to find any

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I'm happy to hear E:D will get multicrew but I hope SC don't go for the power "pip" they talk about.

Multicrew is supposed to be interesting because an human get to use better the already existing game mechanic, not because you are magically awarded better efficiency.

In fact, considering DAD mentality, I find it strange this features was considered at all. You can count on Dad to have it nerfed

I think we should ask what SC backer expect from their own multicrew
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14354-Letter-From-The-Chairman
(the way I understand it is that each seat can cumulate several of those)
>Shield Management
>Radar Ops
>EWAR
>Avionics and CPU
>Navigation
>Power Management
>Communications
>(re)Fuel
note : this link is from 2014

>>167085059
>>Shield Management
>>Radar Ops
>>EWAR
>>Avionics and CPU
>>Navigation
>>Power Management
>>Communications
>>(re)Fuel
No idea regarding what level of complexity these stations will end up with, right?

>>167084393
Why do I get the feeling he plays solo hauler only?

Why are Dads so confused and trivialized by the implementation of a "fast" travel in ED?

>>167084256
I guess he fucking hates Fuel Dads then?

>>167085059
In order for multicrew to be fun each player has to feel like they're actively contributing, which is probably why ED went with the extra pip that each crew member gets to assign as well as the fact that fighters are the main draw to multicrew. I figure most other things just weren't that fun. Also you can't make one system just 10x stronger because there is a person in that seat. I know the examples you linked are for SC but lets see how it would pan out if we assume them to be potentially applicable to ED multicrew:

>>Shield Management
Could be fun, kinda sad this isn't in.
>>Radar Ops
Sounds really boring and nothing the main pilot can't already do
>>EWAR
Happens passively could be handled by a person playing mini games.
>>Avionics and CPU
Not applicable to ED
>>Navigation
Helms man does this. but if you wanna make a seat dedicated to using the FSD and possibly squeezing more jump range or having it happen faster it could be okay?
>>Power Management
Helms man does this and each crew member has a bit of power management to do.
>>Communications
It's a chat window when the person is in range
>>(re)Fuel
Would have to be a joint job with something else but a way for the person to manually fuel scoop for faster recharge could be interesting.

There are like 4 things a player could do in a non pilot seat that wouldn't fuck with the core gameplay pilots are already used to.

Fighter control and Turret control which are both in right now.

Maybe some kind of shield management could be fun, if the person had the ability to detect the exact direction the damage was coming from they could direct all shield energy to it. That might be some what engaging.

And some kind of systems management player who plays little mini games to make your things go by faster, like jumping, grabbing cargo, mining, fuel scooping and all sorts of shit.

Is Draconis in civil war yet?

>>167086063
fuck off
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>>167086063
Stop fucking talking about D17 you faggots.

>Let's ruin it for everyone by NOT SHUTTING THE FUCK UP.

>Howz we makes monies guysz? Robigo and D17 are nerfed.

SHUT THE FUCK UP.


Also, Vision.

>>167085826

It's barely even fast travel. I'd actually class it nearly as a separate minigame entirely, much like CQC, except with multicrew you can actually earn credits towards your main character.

It's, again just like CQC, a pretty detached part of the game that you'd only do if you had a bored friend who was autistic enough to put all his weapons as turrets. It'll be fun for a bit but it'll get old very fast. Has potential for more grinding exploits if large ships will be as overpowered as it looks with the extra pips going to shields, so you might be able to get a few /edg/lords into a few Cutters or Corvettes to go grind 17D or the like together, with their engineered and multicrew'd ships barely taking damage and all sharing mission counts and combat bonds.

>>167085826
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/325296-High-jump-range-is-ruining-the-game

>>167086545
The only reason you grind is for better shit.
if there's not better shit why play the game?
I don't understand his problem

>>167086472
I'll take that as a yes.

Someone mentioned it was imminent earlier. Since its past the mission update tick I was hoping that the war had started.

>>167086663
Are you really this dumb?
If you take it as a yes don't even reply, just fuck off.
You're an idiot.

>>167084543
Just bought one of these + paid millions in transport costs simply because I couldn't bear the slog of traveling to 17D in my Python.

>>167086760
I'd get more from selling all this salt than I'd ever get from Draconis 17

>>167086865
You will when it's nerfed fuccboi

>>167086896
Nerfed? Because the devs check /vg/?

>>167086896
He can become a trillionare by then.

>>167086974
Again, you're an idiot.
If you think Dads and Reddit haven't caught on, you're a fucking retard. That's just straight up truth.

>>167086760

Civil wars last for a set period of time and aren't influenced by bonds or missions, only by who has the greater influence/player turnout by the end of the set time. 17D has been around for fucking ever and there's always been great migrations there whenever a civil war hits. Stop being autistic, or stop being new, in which case fucking lurk moar.

>>167087057
So why does it matter if I mention it here?

>>167087094
>>167087117
see
>>167086472

>>167087179
You still haven't explained the problem. How is it ruining anything? More people means faster kills in the CZs

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>>167085216
answer is in the link + your own recollection of what dev said was part of the gameplay (like going to physically change part during battle)
For example :
>>Shield Management
We already know shield are separated by direction and recharge can be focused in a direction
>>Radar Ops
We know there will be passive and active radar, easy guess : if the player look in a direction, chance of locking a stealth ship increase, and if you wish to be discreet you don't go active
>>EWAR
Selective hack of subsystem (engine, door, etc...)
>>Avionics and CPU
Frankly I couldn't care about this one, look way too specific to be used dynamically
>>Navigation
That's basically an autopilot interface while you multitask other things
>>Power Management
self-descriptive, the guy doing shield will probably use that as well.
>>Communications
glorified chat management for Orgs
>>(re)Fuel
I doubt it still exist like originally planned since Qfuel can't be obtained in space, but if your ship is reliant on afterburner... why not.

pictured : repair "minigame" concept, there's also
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/15062-Ship-Repair-And-Maintenance

>>167085956
See above, in my opinion you are overlooking some advantage if it's not optimal (shield recharge)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14926-Design-Notes-Electronic-Warfare

Also : the way I get it, ONE player can use SEVERAL of those at once.

What's the current fastest way to grind out Empire ranking for a Cutter? Donation missions are fine if that is the quickest method.

>>167087735
Stack data and transport missions between HIP 10716 and Wu Guinagi

>>167087441
Interesting, can only hope the final implementation is engaging and encourages people to play together.
I commented some threads back how SWG/JTL also had room for "multiple roles" in a multi-crew ship but they ended up being kind of useless because of how fast-paced combat was.

>More E:D than SC on this general
is SC officially dead?

>>167088043
It's not out yet.
I play E:D but as soon as SC gets a gameplay update itll be dominant.

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>>167088043
>SC is dead
>ED is dad

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>>167087853
We hope to play together, but we all also hope you can reliably leave those job to NPC-CREW
shitstorm incoming
When I play with a friend I don't expect him to do a repetitive minigame for me while I'm the one having fun. I expect them to act beyond a single crew station.
Else it would be like the E:D dads asking to make impossible to 'telepresences' in a ship for the sake of having fun.

Pictured : Welcome on my badass spaceship, here is your new jobs.

>>167088043
nah the poles just flipped for a bit, ED got some new stuff SC hasn't gotten shit in a while.

>>167088043

When SC has concrete information worth talking about I'm sure the ratio of discussion will flip over. We can only theorize about theoretical aspects of a future game for so long.

>EvE and E:D making money out of fucking paid skins and livery that could be very well be free

The fucking faggots

>>167088172
underrated post

>>167088043
50% of the SC discussion has been
>i think this ship design looks the coolest!
and the rest is a mishmash of
>speculation
>shit posters who don't like the game to begin with
>should i buy into this?

>>167088367

Simple: good insurance and kill switch. If a fag hijacks he gets rekted.

>>167088510
Frontier has to feed their families somehow I guess, I don't mind premium decals, ship colors and shit but there should be some in game ways to earn that kind of stuff.

>>167088605

Nvm. The "passenger" should be the salvager or the armed marine that drops on wrecks/stations.

>and ofc a fuckig kill switch. Fag hijacked my shit? Kaboom.

>>167088367
>When I play with a friend I don't expect him to do a repetitive minigame for me while I'm the one having fun.
Exactly what I mean, I won't mind being confined to a single station if it was useful AND operating it had enough gameplay value, but that might prove difficult to implement, or at least I don't see it as being that easy.

NPC crew or AI modules can be cool too, if done properly I don't think they will be able to replace a player at 100% efficiency anyways.

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>>167087353
Do you organize Wings with fellow Anons in Open?

Are there literally dozens of us flying around in Open spamming Epic Memes, Faggot and general shitposting in [LOCAL]?

Do you not care if we keep drawing more and more attention to 17D?
>Buht guyz, everyone knows about it.

Evidently not enough to keep the general consensus of "Kill these" missions between 400k-7m.

Do you really want to even take the slightest chance of these types of missions getting nerfed?

If you answered yes to any of these, go kill yourfuckingself.

>tfw close to dangerous ranking in combat
jeez how many ships do they expect me to kill for these ranks?

I am pretty sure i obliterated ~500 ships to get to master.

>>167089128
I know that feeling. I'm 60% through Dangerous and the meter doesn't fucking move.

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>>167089128
>tfw got combat elite through turreting

>>167088932
Calm down salt boy. You're corvette mine isn't going anywhere.

If you've watched the missions q&a you'd know how incompetent the mission devs are.

>>167089276
kek, did you just get in a conda put full pips to sys and sit afk in a low RES?

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>>167088843
This is less not operating at 100% but more like players reaching 120% without making a full npc-crew capital ship[/spoiler work any worse than actual npc-ship.
In a game 90% npc the standard is to be set by npc. I have no worry that orgs will min-max their ship up the wazoo but if we can do that and still have players free to fly other ship, that's better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGWggc7KjJE
(imagine the Bengal Carrier flying in formation with Idris and Jav against a fleet of Vaanduul)
Then cry because your PC will explode under the charge

>>167089430
Almost like that, but in a bugged CZ where enemy ships don't attack. It was a great exploit back in the day, tho it may return again.

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shit
>>167089783
>>167088843
This is less not operating at 100% but more like players reaching 120% without making a full npc-crew capital ship work any worse than actual npc-ship.
In a game 90% npc the standard is to be set by npc. I have no worry that orgs will min-max their ship up the wazoo but if we can do that and still have players free to fly other ship, that's better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGWggc7KjJE
(imagine the Bengal Carrier flying in formation with Idris and Jav against a fleet of Vaanduul)
Then cry because your PC will explode under the charge

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>>167089279
I don't want the fucking corvette. I want to retire.

How can Elite even compete?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5EAB8gwJM

>>167091942
by being released

:^)

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>>167092089
REKT

>>167092402
Can I get more of those?

>>167092402
i fuckin love this image

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>>167088510
There was a bug in Eve when you could put any skin on any ship. Too bad they fixed it and never introduced any cool skins after.

>>167088638
I think so too, but the community is so good at grinding at this point that Frontier wouldn't earn a cent.

Plus, their history of free skins begins and ends with the Chrome Eagle.

>>167092402
do you fags have a compilation of all these commissions turned into dankerous meems

Anyone else here play on Xbone and want to Wing up for 17D or BH in HAZRES?

>>167093813
just get anaconda, put turrets in and afk

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Wasn't Oculus Rift support part of the stretch goals?

>>167094213
Yeah, fucking melons should never have put it up and I have one. Shooting at tiny dots is the fucking worst VR game.
I guess they now have the reasoning that the "expanded scope" or whatever is what makes VR impossible.

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>>167094213
It was actually a feature planned for the the game even without stretch goals.

I guess the stretch goals themselves made that very hard to do with all those extra features that makes all other features a lot harder to do. Ironic isnt it...

You want feature 1 that takes X amount of time and you want feature 2 that takes Y amount of time in your game.

In Star Citizen that means (X+Y)^2 in total time for those.

Increase the power for each extra major feature.

>>167094601
to be fair the game that was kickstarted was a very different game compared to what we have now

>>167094753
We wont even get the modding tools, the engineering guide PDF that we pledged for or private servers at all either?

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>>167094213
wew lad

>>167094958
>AWS
>private servers
Professor Cultist, I'm P2P.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/324632-Gender-Ambiguous-Commanders

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>>167095458
titus

get the cross

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>>167094213
>Treadmill

>>167095458
>expect ess jay dubya bullshittery
>it's about helmet and face-covering customization options
almost had me there
never looked past first page though

>>167093908
No money for a Conda. Really just looking for peeps to chill with.

>>167070637
look at this newfag, that's exactly what we used to call it. that's still the name of the discord, even.

>>167096512
So how are you going to pay me for fleeting on my ship? I can accept paypal i guess...

>>167096582
W-what? I've only got 78m and a Python with all EMC's.

>>167088510
They have said they have a cosmetics shop with premium (read: expensive) prices as a substitute for a subscription fee.

EvE is just greedy.

ded

>>167097105

I like the game. But that skill training time... like so many shenenigans that are common among sub MMO's to keep people in just drives me fucking mad!

>I seriously fucking hope Chris Roberts nukes that game with competition. Either him or someone else... I rlly do.

>>167083998
You need horizons to get access to multi crew

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326250-Instant-Transfer-to-target-ship-in-Multi-Crew-Yes-No

Let's see if the denizens of the gulag cock this up for everyone.

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>>167094213
Am I the only one who don't give a shit about VR at all? I would be happy with just the game itself.

>>167104337
VR would be interesting, I do not yet have a Vive but I plan on it for CAD and multimedia and games, but I personally care that TrackIR is supported sooner rather than much much later as TrackIR has made a difference in plenty of titles tha ti use it for, so much so that i semi-permanetly mated an IR target to my good headphones

>>167104748
and by TrackIR i dont mean TrackIR exclusively, i mean head/gaze-tracking in general

>>167104748
That would actually be useful, if only in the cockpit.

VR, on the other hand, is near impossible to implement with current tech, because of FPS nature of gameplay. There is a reason all VR FPS games are shooting galleries with teleportation mechanics. Motion sickness is gonna be an issue for a good while yet.

>>167105341
Too bad you're not part of the master race that doesn't get sick in VR

>>167105824
I don't, but a lot of people do. Enough that making anything other than teleportation bullshit is not financially viable.

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threadly reminder to remove trousers for maximum expansion

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>Bought ED some time ago
>Only worthwhile content outside of combat is gated behind a full-priced-game (((expansion)))

>>167106809
>worthwhile content
Which is what exactly?

>>167106986
planets

>>167095743
almost like centuries of living in space and with heavy shielding from the sun would make people paler, even with african features.

>>167107274
we

>>167107159
Not really worthwhile yet imo.

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>3rd person camera
>instant travel to ship
>360 view
>360 deployment of scanners and missile launchers
>adds power to a ship

So, how long do you think before Frontier folds like a little bitch on all of this?

>>167107274
african features would have been cured by then.

Are you going to be able to recruit crews at stations and shit?

>>167107692
4 hours

>>167107863
So would the flesh
The flesh is weak

>>167107556
WUZ

>>167107692
2 weeks

>>167107863
I'm pretty sure they'll introduce African features in 2.4. It will be the penal colony update

>>167107692
So much bitching on the forums already. We need a purge

>>167108705
I post acting like a dad because its funny to see you guys get cucked

>>167108761
I actually feel better imagining all these people are trolling.

>>167108761
joke's on you, i have a 1C Detailed Dad Scanner installed

SPACE EXPLORERS N SHIET

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Gentleman, BEHOLD!

/sgg/ >>>167108465

>>167109119
too broad fuck off

>>167107692
>3rd person unified-control turrets

aaand how will this not be utterly broken exactly?

Not that PvP happens because lolfrontier but from the sounds of things player-controlled turrets would just end up being unavoidable

>>167109119
Unironically kill yourself.

>>167109583
Thx, you too. People were complaining yesterday that some people have fun with other games and the dads were getting restless about this occasionally dead thread getting crowded.

Instead of complaining or posting about anything other than your loading screen simulator, I made another OP. Guess we better keep posting about other games here so the thread doesn't die, again.

>>167084903

Still waiting. How soon?

Also everyone's going Jet Bridge, right?

>Underdogs
>Control the system so it won't get locked down

(Assuming they hand out the big payouts. Which.. They should, right?)

>>167110021
Didn't read, fuck off.

>>167105341
>There is a reason all VR FPS games are shooting galleries with teleportation mechanics

Check out Onward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8N3aOn1iWE

Either way, I don't think FPS implementation is even worth it right now in SC until a few more generations of VR come to fruition.

2.6.1 on the PTU 1 - 2 weeks from now.

Honestly if this doesn't improve framerate I'll get irritated more than I already am.

If 3.0 doesn't all but fix the problem I'll probably get a refund (or sell on grey market)

anyone feel the same way?

>>167110027
Of course

Civil war is imminent. System status updates tick at 6pm GMT so check Draconis then.

>>167084903
>>167110027
>>167110801
Is 17D always on war because of the background simulation or relation with nearby systems or was it a "glitch" and FDev just went with it and made it so it's always on war?

Ok, so I stack a bunch of Assassinate Pirate Lord missions.

Kill one, go to a station in that system to collect the local bounty. Go to the next location, kill, go to another station in that system for the local bounty, and repeat a few time.

Is there a way to collect all the bounties at once, or do I really have to dock after a kill every time, and then hit the next system?

>>167110930
>Both fed factions get a lot of donations which raise their influence
>Factions are not the same type so they choose civil war over elections
>Once one faction has enough influence it attempts to start a war to become the controlling faction in that system

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SA is like a tree I can visit for fresh fruit at any time
Like an angry and dedicated member berry

>>167111049
You need to dock always, otherwise it would be too convenient and dads wouldn't like it

>>167110742
>PTU still isn't closed from previous session
Unlikely considering they still need to get Spectrum in full release before they have further branching versions of live releases.

I guess they could keep the PTU open just for Spectrum, but that would be very unusual to go to a new version directly on the PTU. They have not addressed why Spectrum is still testing like that, afaik.

>>167111297
>SA
It still exists?

>>167111297
>Almost entirely about rentry, ignoring shields exist

is this autism in the wild?

>>167111442
It's fucking SA, what do you think?

>>167111297
>ships have anti gravity capability and can enter the atmosphere at any speed, or stop at any time.
I don't think he knows why things get hot on reentry.

>>167111327
dats pruddy gai tho

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>>167111347
It's like one of those button press dilemmas; you can take this place and multiply the post count and OC by five. People will follow every aspect of development, every single video, every boring community post.
The catch is that people can only post about how much they hate the developers and how certainly it will fail.

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>>167085059
>because an human get to use better the already

>>167105824
I probably do. Really fucking sucks.

>>167107686
Not until the next two $30 expansions?

I'm wanted as fuck in Alpha C.
What are the chances I can aim for Proxima C. and just leave the room while I travel the .22ly?

Can NPCs even interdict at that speed?

>>167112649
Maybe.

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>>167112387
Well that is the guy who thinks solo capitals is fine for balance. He's our Hodor.

>>167111185

Combine this with the fact that the system is Militaristic - I think that triggers the Multi-massacre

Really a perfect storm of circumstances

>>167113862
You're wrong. CR already confirmed hiring as many NPCs as you want to. Don't forget A.I. consoles too.

I guarantee you that human turret operators will shit the bed way more than AI when your vessel is doing any kind of turns or dodging. The team's FIDELITY erection will not penetrate far enough to simulate human disorientation factors for AI.

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I don't even need to look at the Gulag to know there's an absolute rioting shitstorm of dads right now crying over the "gamey" unrealism of not having to spend 10 hours traveling through loading screens every time just to be the cabin boy on someone else's ship.

>>167117886
top kek i love dadposting

Just took a 1200ly passenger mission. So do I have to do this all in one go? Or can I quit and finish tomorrow?

Also, on my galaxy map it says "Plot route unavailable (Maximum distance exceeded)
Does that mean I cannot make it? Or that the map just doesn't plot that far?

>>167118581
I believe the mission timer is real time. You have that much time to finish the mission, whether you log out or not.

You can only plot a route 1kly long on the galaxy map.

Why are the dads losing their shit so hard?

>>167118838
>real time
So, they won't get pissy and unhappy and ruin the mission if I log out? I can literally take 4 weeks?

>1k out
Figured that out, but just trying to plot closer. Thanks though.

>>167118838
This is correct.

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>>167119162
stress of having children

>>167118838
yes

also I finally made it to the bubble after a fucking year holy shit

About to grab a meta alloy and bring it to farseer.
Am I gonna get ganked by every fucking NPC on the way from Maia?

>>167119664
how many first discoveries did you get?

How much did you make from exploration data?

Lay it on me, how bad is this loadout

https://eddp.co/u/rUsiPE5d

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would you a Cherie?

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I just returned to ED after a long break (haven't played since around powerplay) and I am wondering if open is worth playing in still. Is it dead aside from trolls or is there any actual community there? Also, is there an up to date player territories map so that I know where to expect faggot redditors to pull me over for a toll? Any help appreciated.

>>167120241
every bookmark is an ELW
like, a lot
over 200mil credits thanks to colonia CG, took me 2 hours to submit all data to UG on jacques

not really worth it, considering i logged in once every week and made 1500ly every time

>>167120498
she looks like Alia Shawkat, so no

>>167120498
Any context on why you're giving us this random photo?

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>>167120498
?

>>167120431
You might want to swap the fighter bay and the 6A SCB. The 6A refills more than your shield's capacity and fighters are pretty fragile.

>>167120828
>>167120908
you didn't answer the question

>>167120706
i mean almost 200mill credits, not over

>http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Elite_Timeline

I was curious about the game's lore, but man this is some real weak shit space opera.

>No mention of an AI event, but it's outlawed (apparently)
>Advancements in science and technology are slow as fucking molasses
>Majority of human v human conflict, only one real 'alien empire', which is beaten by a virus(?)

It's 3300 for fucks sake. Where is the FTL communication? How has no one figured that out yet?

Exploration question.

So, you jump to a new system. Use the Discovery Scanner and you get a bunch of new objects, all which are called "Unexplored."

Now, is it worth it to scan the star, which is right in front of your face for the actual name (not Unexplored) or just jump to the next system?

>>167120498
>no bra

Mmmm

>>167121534
ED was a mistake

>>167120939
Done

Now I have to put it together and talk to those fucking engineers about overcharging and bumping up FSD range, love too grind

Time to take drugs and be a mundane space trader
IRL Drugs because im a loser and depressed

>>167120498
That looks nothing like her fag

>>167121534
>>167121534
>Where is the FTL communication?
Lore justification for why data courier mission exist. But also there's that Galnet thing.

ED inconsistent as fuck and is baggaged with previous games/books.

>Players can also simply come along for the ride, with the pilot in a mentoring role.

>tfw bringing along your special space buddy to do comfy exploration of space and your bodies
>playful space jokes and space touches that lead to space assgrabbing and space cummies

Can't wait o7

>>167121534
FTL communication (outside of ship messengers going FTL) actually ruins a lot of space-opera stuff. Universes like Privateer's rely on systems and even planets being sort of in the dark about each other, otherwise lawless shitlands don't exist.

>>167122318
it's not gay if it's in space. NASA said so.

>>167120908
Cherie is cute!

>>167120690
>trolls
>paying toll

What? I have 225 hours playtime and I have never been attacked by another player. Don't be a mobius dad.

The community is generally in the form of a discord chat since there are no in-game tools for it. If you want a community and goal, you can always join a side in powerplay and then look up their sub-reddit and discord.

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>>167122142
>one multicannon round bounces off a space cop's shield
>every cop in the system and bounty hunter in the galaxy instantly knows of your misdeeds

>>167123157
VISION

>>167123157
>>167123490

Check your fire, CMDR o7
Actions have consequences, just like having kids!

Do you get notified somehow if you're the first to discover something?

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>>167124187
When you turn it in, yes.

GUYS I NEED HAVE ENOUGH STORE CREDIT TO BUY A PAINT JOB WHAT DO I BUY

>>167124918
You don't in case you want to upgrade a ship later, baka

>>167122142
>Lore justification for why data courier mission exist
Not because couriers are more secure than FTL transmissions? Even Trump believes in couriers.

>>167124987
I'M BASICALLY AT END GAME

>>167125020
Some data courier missions say secure data transport some don't.

>>167121269
That's it? Fuck man is that kinda depressing knowing you spent all that time in the game and can barely afford an imperial clipper? Or were you flush with cash before you split?

>>167121534
it's 2945 and we don't have FTL communication either
I seem to remember reading something that says we have to use drones to go through Jump Points
though that was before we have Heralds

>>167121582
It's best to look at the system map to see what all is in the system. If it's just rocky bodies then pass. Gas giants may be worth it. ELB's are where the dosh is

>>167121950
at least you can afford drugs faggot

>>167119664
That's pretty cool.
I'm on my way back from a passenger mission 19k LY away from the bubble, just 13k more to go.

>will probably get scanned and fail in the last minute
It'll be okay though, should have enough exploration data for an A-grade FSD.

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>>167121582
Always scan neutron stars & black holes. For planets, water worlds and earth-likes. Feel free to scan more, but I would say these are the essentials.

>>167127184
Its fucking DXM
robotussin nigga
and weed
im getting dizzy fuck

>multicannon shells are affected by weapon colors

literally why

What is "the bubble?"

>>167120690

Open is still kind of fun to play in, but it's pretty barren most of the time. I've played the game a lot and been killed only once, when some le epic meme was camping outside of a station in the middle of nowhere because he claimed the system was his and his clan was a PvP clan. Still good for winging up with randos especially in 17D, lots of people working together to get mission kills.

>>167127752
lmao do real drugs homo; or, at the very least, drugs you need a prescription for. Stop being so fucking lame

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>>167127806
Where the bulk of humanity lives.

>>167127806

the general area of the ED galaxy where most human activity is concentrated. It's a roughly 400LY chunk ("bubble") of space where space stations are plentiful. There are some populated systems outside the bubble, but none beyond the 500LY range from Sol. Except Colonia, of course.

>>167127948
:/

This is just a brief message to announce that Cmdr Crapluma, a long time Elite, Frontier and Elite: Dangerous pilot (he made Elite in all but ED), who also happened to be my father, passed away in October after nearly a year long battle(?) with cancer. It is suspected in certain circles that the Thargoids implanted the tumours as it was only discovered at the final stages and too late to treat via conventional means. However those “treatments” were attempted. All I will say is that things may well have been different if he lived in another part of the bubble where other... options were available...

Despite regular attempts at making sure this didn't happen in the first place, he found out too late that his insurance was only good for covering a yearly test that didn't pick up anything untoward only a few months before his diagnosis. He found himself back at Trevithick Dock in his Sidewinder. And so it goes.

Although he remained a neutral Cmdr, I wish to thank him for his efforts to help the Empire with various covert and BGS missions- it was an honour to fly with him in various combat zones. He will be sorely missed.

I hope that some day I can find a star with his name on it.

o7

>>167104337
VR was announced for Star Citizen back in 2012, months before the Oculus Devkit 1 was released. This was a time of wide-eyed optimism for virtual reality backed up by very little experience. It was common for people to say "Imagine X, but in VR!" as if any gaming experience could be improved by strapping on a head-mounted display.

This all changed when people got their hands on the devices and started getting sick while playing conventionally designed games. Developers learned the hard way about sensory conflict and the vestibular system, vergence/accommodation conflict, and proprioception. It became clear that games would have to be completely designed around the limitations of VR. Serious concessions would have to be made, especially when it came to movement.

While VR allows you to feel present within the virtual environment, I do not think it is worth the trade-offs. I think it's funny that there are people who still say that CIG needs to design their game around VR or risk obsolescence, when virtual reality has thus far been a non-starter despite the initial hype.

That said, CIG still needs to honor their promise in some capacity. Hopefully something that won't waste too much time and manpower.

>>167128234
dont be gauche lad.

On an unrelated note did i waste ~1.6M C upgrading a Cobra MKIII jump drive to 4A?

>>167128824

unless you plan on dadding it out in the cobra for a long time, yes.

you could probably use it for some smuggling to get your dosh (and more) back though.

>>167128669
o7 CMDR

>>167128926
I just started playing last Thursday and want to get into exploring. I hope that isn't too dad for you, lad. But if I've made a mistake at least I can recoup my losses by selling the unit right?

>>167127806
the crowdfunded space sims fad

>>167129114
Hey man same here.
lets be pals

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>be rich space prick.
>need to get over to qt3.14 15,926ly away.
>not gonna fly there myself because poor people fly their own spaceships.
>post a job for transport for 3x the current price for similar ranges.
>price is higher because I don't want to be scanned for any reason by anyone.
>no reason other than appearing eccentric makes the poorfags think there is some secret trick to being rich.
>dumbfuck Python pilot puts me in luxury accommodations when I only required business, but it's only me so whatev.
>once we are about 90% there, tell the CMDR I need Consumer Technology because I'm bored.
>only one system for 500ly has Consumer Technology, and it's where my dime actually resides.
>happen to know the prick federal police guard that scans every ship going in or out is working today.
>whoopsiedaisy.jpg
>poorfag is 13,000ly away from where he started and in breach of contract.
>Since I am inconsolable from being scanned, I decide get off at the station I was scanned going into.
>mfw you don't get rich by giving your money away.

>>167128781
Frontier's VR support was absolute minimum effort implementation and it works just fine. E:D is easily one of the best VR games out there.

The only thing that makes SC more difficult is the walking in first person gameplay which would make some people sick. But they could basically just ignore those people and slap the VR camera into the game anyway and say they honoured the promise. There would still be a lot of VR heads who would play the game, some of them would just stick to flying the ships and not do much on-foot stuff.

>>167128092
praise kek

>>167129114

>want to get into exploring

Unless you are a complete autist you will be soulless within weeks, if not days.

But if that's what you want to do, you could've gotten a Hauler for a fraction of the price with better jump capabilities.

tfw youre too fucked up too fly but ugot missions due
i might puke boys
but i need creeeedzzz

What's the absolute cheapest ship for exploration?

It would need a fuel scoop, surface and stellar scanner, but what else am I missing?

>>167131276

Hauler.

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Hauler

>>167131276

I supposed a vehicle hangar if you want to fuck about on surfaces, but you can take pretty screenshots while you're landed without an SRV.

As an anon above mentioned, you can very cheaply fit a Hauler that gets, if I remember correctly, nearly 30-ly jumps unmodded. Slap a fuel scoop on it and you're all set. This is why the Asp used to be a meme. Before smuggling was profitable, the Asp was absolutely worthless because cheaper ships could do everything it did better.

>>167129523
Hell yeah son.

The name is Joe Malaka.

>>167131518

To expand:

Ditch the shield. Throw in a fuel scoop and surface scanner. Done. Upgrade the stellar scanner (it comes stock on all ships) as needed/wanted.

>>167130660
But the elite dangerous wiki never mentioned the hauler for exploring

>>167122318
Players should have to pay millions of credits and have hours long timers to get transferred from their ship to their friends ship several sectors away. It's for immersion purposes you see. Impatient millennial kiddies wouldn't understand.

>>167131630
How's the fuel capacity for the hauler? Would it benefit from an extra fuel tank?

>>167131982
If you are exploring the you must have a fuel scoop.

Since you have a fuel scoop, fuel tank size shouldn't matter so long as you plan your jumps accordingly.

>>167131752

That's fine and dandy, but to be sure of your choice you should've read up on all ships within your price range. I quote:

>This craft is also good for exploration; with its relatively long jump range when geared for exploring (28.55LY), not only is it affordable for early explorers, but many explorers actively prefer it even when they can afford a more expensive craft.
>Low overhead in terms of purchase price, outfitting, fuel, maintenance, and even insurance, means high profit. If used correctly, this ship can allow new pilots to turn a large profit quickly.

>>167131982

Standard tank with modules optimised for range and scanning will net you a 129LY range before you need to scoop for more fuel.

I made this for you. Might be too expensive for your tastes, though.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/hauler/0p3t3F0l3d3s3f2-0202f32t2i2f.Iw19A===.Aw19A===?bn=Haulerexp

Use coriolis to experiment with loadouts. Note that the one I posted has everything you need for exploring, with a 20,5LY jump range fully loaded with fuel, and a 332LY total range before you need to fuel. This build IN TOTAL costs 1.3m more than JUST the FSD on your Cobra.

You can of course modify the design accordingly, to get more jump range but less total range.

I'm >>167132781

>>167132472

this is also correct. As long as you remember KGBFOAM you really shouldn't need any more than the default fuel tank.

>>167132781
Why heat sink launchers? I haven't used them at all yet.

Also I remembered I have a type 6 for mining, would it be cheaper to fit it for exploration?

>>167132984
Well I'm the money wasting Cobra noob.

Even though the ship is not ideal, it still has the capability to mount a class 4 fuel scoop and an acceptable jump range. Is there any reason why I should forgo exploring right now and continue doing mediocre trade runs with 32T cargo?

>>167132472
>>167132984
You don't usually need more than a fuel tank, with a C-grade scoop you'll usually top or near top yourself just by going around the main star.
When plotting the route: filter by stars, check KGBFOAM stars only (and also maybe carbon, etc) then "apply filter to route", I think that will force the route to drop you to a scoopable star every time if possible.
I'd get an AFM instead of the tank just in case.

>>167133071

While exploring you might jump into a system and land inbetween two stars in a binary system. Having heat sink launchers might save your life in such a situation.

Using a type 6 is indeed possible, but it's kinda pricey. Though since you already have the ship, you'll only be paying for the modules.

Check the wiki and use coriolis.

>>167133071
>Why heat sink launchers?
Binary systems but realistically, for when you don't alt-tab back in time to avoid the star.

>>167133207

That depends. Is your goal with exploring to have fun (ehehehhe) and see the galaxy? Go for it.

Is your goal to earn money by exploring? Then HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>167131623
Im too fucked to know if youre serious

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>>167133380
I already got some pretty expensive modules in it I think, could probably downgrade a few of them to increase jump range and make some dosh back

>>167133437
I throttle to zero as soon as the countdown starts. Haven't jumped between any binary stars yet though

>>167133071
>I have a type 6
Then I'd grab a passenger cabin and ferry motherfuckers around while honking along the way.

>Reading the ED forums

I swear to fucking god, what is with these posters who feel the need to post nothing of subtance and just say "I don't care"

THEN DON'T FUCKING POST

FUCK I HATE TRADITIONAL FORUMS

>>167134092

>not posting on comfy traditional forums during the late nineties and early 00s with your internet friends
>not keeping these communities going in hidden tight-knit traditional forums to this very day

pleb

>>167133468
so having the fun and earing the money is out of the question?

>>167134348
>so having the fun and earing the money is out of the question?
This is the tagline on the Elite: Dangerous box.

>>167134092
Who cares? ;)

--------------------------------------------

PILOT LICENSE
NAME: PadreVader
SHIP: Cobra Mk. III
SHIP NAME: The Asgardium IV
ALLEGIANCE: Independent
POWER: Independent

"There's no place like home..." -- Dorothy, The Wizard of Oz

>>167134348

Trading is exceedingly boring but earns the best credits.

Earning combat vouchers is fun and earns a fair bit.

Exploring is fun at first but then bores you to tears and earns nearly no credits compared to the effort expended. Read the posts further up in the thread. Some anon was out for literally a year, doing 1500LY a week. He made under 200mil. You can do that doing trading in a week, or smuggle jobs for a day or two.

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Jesus christ

the forum dads are real

>>167134590
top kek

>>167134623
Yeah Im the motherfucker who asked him if it was depressing spending that much time on a game and barely being able to afford an imperial clipper? Or were you flush with cash before you split?

That was me. I'm predisposed to trading because I ultimately know my life will me even more depressing. Let me have this you fucking buzzkill.

>multicrew
>4 players max
>3 "roles"
they sure thought that one out huh

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>>167129662
>>mfw you don't get rich by giving your money away.

Immersive. I give it a "dad out of 10".

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>>167134713
>You can't multi crew on a cobramkIII so why bother? :^)

Fucking Christ they are the most selfish players I have ever seen. Why do fdev listen to them?!

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Any new news for Star Citizen?

wait will 17D trigger war at 6pm gmt? or 6am?

>tfw cqc is the best mode ever but the only way to play it is by coordinating on a discord group

the people who play this game don't even know that they're sitting on one of the greatest game modes ever made.

>>167128092
something I don't understand is how in the fuck humanity expanded that far that quickly. there are shitloads of planets that number in the billions. how do people reproduce that quickly? seems kinda unlikely, even in a ~1300 year timespan.

Shitpost more guys

>>167144651
I'm waiting for 17D

>>167140483
I think it updates at PM British time

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>me waiting for the civil war to start

can we expect any other significant features in 2.3?

>>167111297
I thought this was a joke image and I laughed.
Then I realised it wasn't and just felt sad.

>>167140110
Everybody seems to have entered hibernation until 3.0 or SQuirt42 gets released.

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Ben Parry has been active on the ask a dev forum. Looks like head tracking will come sooner than VR.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7499151/#Comment_7499151

What happens to exploration data if you die before handing it?
Do you get it all back if you get your ship back with insurance or is it lost?

>>167150503
lose it

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>>167127754
>weapon is affected by weapon colors

really decouples my noodles

Guys I'm an elite noob flying in a viper and I like pvp. I have 40 hours of playtime more or less. Where could I start fighting other player near my level and gear? I tried getting into power play but it seems very boring. Am I missing something?

>>167151963
kek.

>>167152038
That was very instructive thank you for your participation.

>>167151963
Just interdict people with low combat ranks in some popular system. You'll get instagibbed if you try to attack serious pvp'ers

>>167151963
>>167152128

Go play CQC. It's the Official PvP Hallmark of Elite Dangerous. It's where your kind belong.

Fuck you,
Forumdads

>>167151963
>Where could I start fighting other player near my level and gear?

Get a FSD interdictor and look for players whose rank is not above yours. Make sure to check their ship as well so you're not attacking a anaconda for instance.

If you don't want to be labeled as a griefer, who am I kidding, of course you will, then make up some roleplaying reason for attacking. You could be for instance pledged to the Empire and you're attacking Federation players. Or you could be a pirate or bounty hunter.

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>>167136628
They post on the official forums and they never shut the fuck up. That's literally it. If a bunch of people from this general and from plebbit actually posted there and drowned them out, it probably wouldn't be an issue anymore.

>>167151963
you want two medium torps with reverb cascade and two seeker missile launchers

interdickt, wreck the shields with the reverb torps, target drives with your seekers and harvest the salt

you also want to have engineered shields and thrusters

>>167152223
I haven't tried CQC, but it reminds me of battlegrounds in WoW. An artificial arena that lacks any kind of soul. I've always been a proponent for open PvP, where it is formed organically, this is where you get all the good PvP stories.

Imagine if EvE was fully PvE except for a similar artificial PvP arena. You would never get any of those PvP stories where a corporation attack another and it becomes a huge war e.t.c. It would just be another grind-fest and I hate how those carebear dads don't see that.

>>167152567
That's it. That's what I want. Does pledging to someone make another faction automatically enemies counting players and npc alike?

>>167152808
Yes.

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>the polls asking multi crew to be nerfed have already been created

it begins

>>167153081
What could they possible nerf? It isn't released yet.

>>167105341
>>167104748
SC had TrackIR support and they removed it

>>167153373
Make you wait for transfer.

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>>167152808
Make sure to join the subreddit and discord for that power if you want to coordinate with other players.

Generally there's a post each week how to best proceed, basically which systems are worth defending and attacking. For example, see picture.

>>167140110
>>167146774
More or less, @.6 was mostly just a technical patch, 3.0 will actually be a game that warrants playing and discussion, if you played 2.5 you played like 98% of 2.6. Different flight model was an improvement IMO, and Im glad missiles are finally worth firing, but beyond that theres just not a helluva lot to do.


Grind credits to buy temporary things that get wiped every patch or grind rec to rent shit that I already used during a free fly week.

AC is decently fun but it gets repetitive and the tiny scale of the map really does turn it into a all out brawl with no real room for tactics. Can't flank and skitter if there an instant death barrier 1500m behind you.

The only real balance objection I hold right now is that the only thing requires to spoof a missile below like S5 is a functional brain and afterburners.

>>167153484
I'm having a conflict here with my inner-dad.
On one hand I'm all for gameplay and convenience, but on the other hand it's kind of immersion breaking.

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>>167153484
That's so dumb. How is CMDR DadToTheBone supposed to maximized his little time to play if he is waiting for transport for his entire play session?

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>>167153641
Sorry, man.

How's this issue going to be solved in SC anyways?

>>167153728
They're not entitled kids, they don't want instant gratification/

>>167131630
why wont you tell him about the sounds the Hauler makes Satan ?

>>167153957
To what end though? At the end of the day, this is a game. The only games that should have you staring at timers are shitty F2P mobile games. I don't understand where you get entitlement from wanting to play over staring at a timer. I can play Adventure Capitalist if I want to watch a bunch of timers count down.

>>167082636
>It simply doesn't work as a counter rule, and just sets up a grief-centric reward system.
Top
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>>167153728
The forumdads don't play with other people and only play in solo. They don't care how inconvenient it is because it will never effect them, they just want it to be immersive for immersion's sake.

>>167154858
Immersion is fine, but too much of it could lead to inconvenience.
Can you come with a system that sits in the middle?

>>167105341
I still can't figure out what the difference is between a FPS and racing or flying game is, in regards to the motion itself. Driving a car or flying a ship is functionally not that much different from FPS movement, you just have a dash or cockpit to tell your brain that you are seated.

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>>167153467
I just want TrackIR to control the gimbals for my guns. I play m/kb, but I wound spend significant dakka for head control over my guns.

>>167154858
I get roasted for suggesting that SC eva be more immersive, like it was in the old system. That makes the game harder, and the dads lose their fucking minds.

>>167154858
>The forumdads don't play with other people and only play in solo.
I've never played with others so far, but right now you have to fly to whatever system they are in order to do so, right? how is this any different if they force you to be in the same station before boarding a ship?
Also, if you're set to play with others, you will probably be in a system with high player traffic already or near it, will you not?

>>167151364

>multicannons now exclusively fire tracers
>weapon damage not decreased by 99%

Really bajangles the dangles

>>167155453
>purple lasers
>weapon damage not increased by 99%

>>167155263
I used trackir for gimbals and it's shit.

You have to control too much and your accuracy goes out the window

>>167155263
I doubt you can turn/look around that freely in a vehicle

>>167155664

I chose the pink to be as dad-offensive as possible.

>>167155396
you would see more players everywhere if:

we would not have x number of servers and that weird distance-based instancing

Fdev would drop Private and Solo

Introduce the same system that GTA V has if you don't want to PvP online for dads and and their autism spawn

And i am okay with insta-teleport to a friends ship. Elite is a game first and games simply NEED "immersion breaking" mechanics for the game to be enjoyable.

>>167155396
There's no such thing as a system with high player traffic in Elite.

>>167155671
I didn't think it would work out of the box. How does the game translate the input? Is trackir treated like a joystick or mouse?

>>167156090
There must be some aspect of how our brains work that isn't understood as well as we think. For some reason, if you tell the brain you are walking, and the inner ear doesn't back that up, some people have a technicolor yawn. The opposite is true with sea sickness. The inner ear tells the brain you are moving, but you see a steady hallway that isn't moving, time to revisit lunch.

>>167156264
I have not had enough experience with this game to criticize its inner workings, but I can get behind this:
>Fdev would drop Private and Solo
Or at least increase rewards considerably for open, and also add some incentive to kill other players, right now it's only tears you can get from them, right?

I'm perfectly okay with teleport but I think I will also be okay with being in the same station or docked within X LY because I'm a sucker for immersion. But again, I've not suffered this game enough so my opinion might change given enough time.

How does GTAV work exactly?

>>167156269
I meant shit like D17, etc
Those areas get sort of a "high traffic" even if only temporarily, don't they.

>>167157243
>add some incentive to kill other players
Fucking griefering psychopaths, go to CQC

can anyone explain what 17D / civil war in elite dangerous is for those that just came back?

>>167157243
What is D17? Is it something I should report to the Devs?

>>167156730
sadly i don't have anything from SC when TrackIR was a thing in it so i can only share this with you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od8uBIUOe8A

I just remember that the crosshair was always in the middle and the lasers were shooting where you looked(which was highly bad due to 20-30 fps at the time)

>>167157243
GTA V has passive mode which makes you immune to players and you do nothing to them, and if i remember there are some gameplay downsides to that

>>167158664
name of the system that has civil war in it (conflict zones and missions regarding factions in that system)

>>167158664
I would also like to know what This 17D/D17 is?

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Oh boy. I should report this immediately!

Does having a shield improve your heat tolerance when approaching a star?

>>167159474
Probably the opposite.

>>167159552
Because lower power plant load I take?

>>167159474
you can turn your shield off to reduce your heat for fuel scooping, but you are a sitting duck while you do it. you're done if you get interdicted.

>>167159636
All active modules generate heat, so yeah.