/elyg/ - Elysium General

>pupper pals
>/vg/ guild

>41 orc warrior, doing my thing in the badlands
>40ish human priest comes by, does the whole /wave thing, I do it too so we both can be at peace.
>suddenly, hunters mark on me
>ohgreatanotherfaggothunter
>level 47 hunter called: Arrow <pupper pals>
>release
>run to corpse, eat some pumpernickel given to me by a very kind mage
>run around, looking for revenge
>find the faggot
>he immediately attacks
>switch to berserker, intercept
>hamstring
>hit hit
>execute

Is this the power of <pupper pals>?

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Finally got a ZF group going

>>166978242
post a pic of that just for posterity
i'm sure you wouldn't lie on the internet... right?

>>166978242
>no screenshot

/yawn

is netherwing /our guy/?

>>166978242
Funny because I ran into three different puppers in the last 20 minutes and they all left me alone.

>>166978412
Must be a hunter thing

>>166978036
nice leveling specs
NEXT

>>166978242
what really happened
>lvl 41 orc zugs the fuck out and decides to jump a lvl 40ish (actually he was lvl 37) priest
>friendly pupper decides to help their faction member by saving the priest and giving the orc the OGAR they so desire
>pupper helps the priest finish their quest and goes on their way

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Crestfall
1. Backported TBC emulator rebuilt from the ground up for vanilla.
2. Population cap (4-6k).
3. No gold sellers allowed, if there is enough chink interest they get their own containment server.
4. Devs post updates about specific work being done to improve the server and are active on discord.
5. Goal to make raids as hard or harder than retail vanilla, progressive content releases (i.e. no 8 month MC).
6. Thorough beta testing of mechanics, classes, and zones.
7. Choice to progress to TBC realm when vanilla content is complete or stay vanilla.
8. Custom serverside anti-cheat detection. DDoS protection and proxies for latency improvements.
9. Blizzlike LoS, improved pathfinding.
10. Competent, tight-knit group of English speaking devs with backgrounds in coding.
11. Open beta in early 2017.

Elysium
1. Bug riddled ancient Mangos core.
2. 12k population cap.
3. Chinks allowed to sell gold, ruin economy and players' experience.
4. Posts consist almost entirely of SJW numale CMs shilling for China.
5. Rag killed by fresh 60s wearing greens 2 weeks after server launch, only thing to look forward to 8 months of MC and BWL.
6. Crashes and rollbacks daily, broken dungeon scripts, skills and quests, MC broken upon release, Ony broken, BWL broken, pre-patch early release of DM, Elemental Invasion and Green Dragons
7. No progression because the server won't survive past BWL.
8. No anti cheat detection, every other player is a bot.
9. No LoS, retarded pathfinding.
10. Incompetent, Russian speaking drunks with backgrounds in inbreeding.
11. Shutdown in early 2017.

Hey new on the server and I made a character on Zuthker because I heard it was the newer fresh realm and I wanted a true fresh start.

Did I choose wrong?

can someone post a leveling spec for warlock im dying here

>>166978619
Alliance mentality
>oh no there is red i cannot focus, must attack

>>166978812
weak bait at this point

>>166978783
Nope, all is well.

>>166978783
No, 5k+ peaks are what Nost originally had before the Chinks invaded

>>166978812
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IyMmVMboVZbhh

>Badlands quest wants me to kill rock elementals
>northwest elementals are camped by a full group of 60s
>southeast is camped by hostile 60s
Guess the chain just fucking stops here then

>>166979006
Fall behind and get wrecked, kid

>>166978390
>>166978396
>>166978412
>>166978619
PPIDF please go

>>166979006
Sounds like you rolled on the wrong server buddy

If I tank ubrs is it expected that I'm going to roll on all the DPS gear like dalrends or am I going to get blacklisted

>>166979889
no one will have the balls to "blacklist" a tank

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Is 40 or 41 the minimum level for rank 6? Anybody know?

>>166979889
>doing a raid
>rolling on non-tank gear

>>166980025
t. mad rogue

>>166979889
do whatever you want, you're the tank, you can always replace a dps if they bitch

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>two reds try to gank me
>blink, pop a swiftness potion, run off into the sunset
Gotta go fast

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>bunch of lvl 40s "raiding" orgrimmar

wew lads

>run around as a 5 man group going to dungeons
>half the ppl we kill are UD Frost Mages
>they ALL try to get away from a 5 man death squad by using Blink/Frost Nova
>they ALL realize they won't make it anywhere, so they Ice Block
>they ALL think they'll fool the 5 Alliance players spread out in a circle around them and break their Ice Block early, thinking it'll help their chances of survival

If I took a shot each time a UD Frost Mage did the exact same fucking thing, I'd be dead drunk by the time I got to the instance from the flight path.

hey anyone know when the next darkmoon faire is on anathema?

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/30463-token-already-claimed-no-acces-to-old-email/

"HELLO MY CHARACTER WAS STOLEN AND SOMEONE ELSE IS PLAYING IT"


"NO TOKEN TRANSFERS ANYMORE KTHXBYE"

...


>>166980702
http://nostalri.us/anathema

>>166980809
ty

>/played
>4 days
>level 30
pvp is too fun and distracting

>>166981281
11 days at level 49 on my nost hunter

Is there a way for horde to get the herbalist gloves?

>>166981446
neutral AH

>>166978575
are they bad? I'm using the Warlock ne atm.

Unironic question, thinking of rolling an Ally alt, what class does MoH need most?

>>166978036

>levelling specs

but that was the only reason to even look at these cancerous as fuck namefagging circlejerking bullshit threads

>>166981823
fuck off

>tfw level 36 and can't take anymore of the grind

When does the grind end for Alliance? 40?

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Have you read the latest personal dev update on Crestfall, anon?

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/1799-darkrasps-update-01302017/

>A vanilla emulator needs about 7000 scripts in order to be complete. That's about 6300 NPC scripts, 400 quest scripts, and we'll say 300 event scripts. Much of that is handled in the database, and a lot is handled simply by the AI system in the core. I personally wrote scripts for about 6000 npcs. Everything in Kalimdor/EK, and all instance trash, and first drafts of all the instance bosses up to and including Blackwing Lair, with a handful of exceptions. The only NPCs that haven't been touched at all are in ZG, AQ20, AQ40 and Naxxramas (I've got pretty exhaustive research done for them, but haven't written any code for them as yet).

only because all you care about is MUH SCRIPTING

I just got Verigan's Fist, what enchant do I put on it and where can I kill the most horde?

>>166982090
was in the server first rag kill, and can say I'm looking forward to crestfall and its supposed increased difficulty

kronos, nost, scriptcraft, fenix, all have been shit, crestfall will probably be as well, but I suppose we'll see

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>>166982090
D-D-D-DELETE TH-TH-THIS NOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

>see hunter
>he immediately starts chimping out
Why is hunter such a nigger class?

>>166982272
idk man it seems like the Devs are being really thorough and know their stuff

>>166982183
Ashenvale. Making me wish I rolled another paladin instead of mage.

>>166982337

hunter main advantage is range, if they let you get close (depending on the class) they're fucked, so many of them will try to pre-emptive strike if they feel threatened

>>166982417
Sweet, time for ez ranks.

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>>166982090
Why would I care unless they have a release date?

Until then its just another one of the billions of projects

If you have Bloodvine set, do you have to have all 5 points in Suppression in PvE? What about PvP, I see PvP builds usually take 3? Can someone explain the Warlock hit cap to me please.

>>166982090
>>166982496
Crestfall sounds great but it need to come out very soon if it wants to be relevant.

>>166982090
whens corecraft

I just bought the Stormbringer Belt for 80 silver, thought I'd let you guys know.

>>166983043
Soon™

>>166983043
shiro is too autistic to ever release it

Zeth'Kur or Elysium?

>>166983597
Doesn't matter, once Zeth'Kur's pop goes to shit they'll merge anyway.

>>166983597
Don't come to Zeth, we're full

Are there quests missing or were they just added later in the timeline? For example theres like 5 quests in Searing Gorge that aren't there

>>166983597
More like Zeth'Cuck, amirite?
Heh

>>166983597
neither.

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>>166983651

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Is the pre-bis list still not working?

>no one ganking at the moment
>die to mobs instead
:^) loving every laugh with warrior

Surprising amount of people asking specifically for Mages in Worldchat

Playing priest the first levels is an absolute nightmare

>>166984070
Great DPS (including AoE), water dispensing and polymorph, what's not to like?

>>166984232
Druid is pretty bad too, anon.

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>>166984070
>he didn't roll mage

>>166984271
Just that they're like the most common class in the entire game and people are looking for them more than healers

people randomly whisper me all of the time to tank dungeons

when I actually want to do them I can't find people to run them

???

>>166984070
And it's always unsurprising that the majority of mages you group with spam frost bolt before the tank establishes threat, jump around and spam frost nova, and are always the first to die when anything starts to go a little bit wrong.

cant decide what build to do my rogue.

hemo with prep and imp sprint then fill out rest of combat. or imp sap with prep and imp sprint.

I dont really want to do full combat right now. idk.

>>166984432
thats part of the rite of passage

Holy shit I always thought I was stupid but after reading some of the OPs on the Elysium forums I am now euphoric.

People are fucking retarded, people want barber shops? Fuck you faggot

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>>166984503
You think you want it, but you don't

>>166984432
>mark moons for mage to poly
>he wastes 5 seconds using nova on the whole pack before fucking sheeping the mob
>won't reapply poly in the off chance a dps or something breaks it
>wanding as soon as he hits half mana
only players I have more collectively bad experiences with are hunters

>>166984548
>wanding as soon as he hits half mana
There's literally nothing wrong with this. Would you rather have him to sit and drink for 20 seconds between every pull?

i want to play a shaman

convince me why i shouldn't

>>166984434
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fGx0oxpZhfZeMxcc0o

ambush / backstab / evis rotation

go be a world pvp/bg hero that we need

>>166984503
Out of all of the shit these people ask for and complaint about being able to change hairstyle is pretty tame and not that horrible

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>>166933479
why am I not in the rankings for last week
it says I was last seen 8 days ago
ree! how to fix this, muh epeen

>>166984587
I'd rather him do more dmg and have to drink after in a fucking 5 elite pull than make shit take longer and waste the healer's mana because he could only do two frostbolts after his nova/cone/poly theatrics

>>166984609
Not horrible but implementing an ingame barbershop still kills vanilla immersion. Silly and stupid request

>>166984602
leveling as daggers is more painful than leveling a warrior. no thanks.

>>166984548

I agree with >>166984587 on the wanding.
I would much rather the mage save mana and be able to cone, frostnova, frostbolt, fucking anything to slow down a runner but half of the time they are oom because they are retards. Then they cry that they are oom when I'm specifically doing pulls that don't require CC and they could just fucking drink.

If the healer is full mana and I'm waiting on the mage's mana for something other than a burst/AoE pack/boss the mage is a shitter.

I don't think it is that only retards play mage like it normally is with hunters, just that they are such an overplayed class that most of them are morons.

>>166984841
>just that they are such an overplayed class that most of them are morons.

More like there are thousands of them so by the law of averages you're going to see a lot of utterly retarded ones.

>>166984503
>if you want to change your hair you should have to make a new character

Give me one(1) reason why working some kind of barber system into Elysium is bad.

>>166984841
>tfw hunter
>tfw read guides on how to use my class and kite properly and as well macro'd the shit out of my pet
>tfw always getting the highest rank of claw/bite available
>tfw most tanks think i'm retarded just because i'm a hunter

Help.

>>166984889
It's not blizzlike :^)

Why are you implying that it is a neutral or good thing?

Bad = not vanilla
Barbershop = not vanilla
Barbershop = bad

If you want the nonshitpost reason, designing your character without changing it should allow you to be fully immersed in your character.

>>166984973
Better safe than sorry, sorry bro

>>166984889
It's a part of your character and it creates a more persistent world.

When a player see's you at level 5, you'll look the same at level 60, except for the exterior gear.

>>166985195
not if you wear a hat

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Hey can somebody from salty dogs Elysium invite me? Char's name is Razmagul

>>166980207
>two dindus try to gank me
>bubble, pop a swiftness potion,
>run off into the sunset

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QUICK

POST YOUR CHARACTER

>>166985195
t. moron

>>166985324
that's exterior gear you gaylord

>>166985443
nah, you're just a dumbfuck shitstain. you probably like transmog lmfao

Is Elysium good for someone fairly new to WoW? and are there a lot of lower level people being social and having fun running some dungeons?

>>166981657
fug

>Its a "Mage Counterspells a mob that has been LOS'd" episode
>Its a "Mage uses AOE straight after pull" episode
>Its a "Mage sheeps the skull episode"

My favorite!

>>166985485
There are a lot of people, yes. You're not too late or anything like that.

Vanilla is different to Retail, though. If you were looking for a free version of that then you're in the wrong place. If you want to experience something somewhat Blizzlike, Ely is okay.

>>166985423
Is that IBS? I thought AV wasn't out on Ely yet

>>166985575
>that has been LOS'd
That has been line of sighted? Wut?

pls help
What's the lowest level you can get rank 6?

>>166985784
and
>>166985750
IBS? Irritable bowel syndrome?

>>166985828
Ice Barbed Spear

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>Seargant Warlock ganking people 5 levels lower than him.
>Finally kill him
>Soulstone

>Hunter targets everything with right click and keeps their pet of defensive

This is a habit that should be forcibly beaten out of you before you even hit level 11

Why do I always put so much faith in hunters to not be completely retarded

>>166984591
Resto is the only raiding spec and it's also the most optimal PVP spec

>>166985750
nah, i wish. that's grimlock's charge with +5 wep on it.

>>166986262
I suppose that isn't terrible, could healbot until I get R14 for unbreakable status.

Does stealth work normally ? When i played on Kronos2 I could get way closer to Mobs before being noticed, might've been bugged there, anyone knows ?

>MoH supplies Paladins and Warlocks to strayan raids

>>166984591
Totems are fun and do a good job at making the class feel really unique
Memefury is fun to level with
Elemental destroys everything you target once you get some good gear
Resto is very strong

>>166986368
It's fucked till r3. Then it works somewhat as it should.

>>166986385
wait a fucking minute

stormstrike is in right?


also, how hard is it rank up and not decay? is it ultra hardcore and i gotta play for four hours everyday?

>>166986436
>four hours
hahahahahahahaha

>>166986547
i'm a wage slave with a family, what can i say?

>>166986421
Eh, great Server, i just wanna sneak around and fill my Pockets.

>>166986575
YOU ARE A SCRUB
YOU ARE NOTHING

>>166986694
>YOU ARE A SCRUB
ok
>YOU ARE NOTHING
which one is it, anon? a scrub, or nothing?

Someone convince me which pvp sever to make an alliance character on.

>tfw starting on the pve and people actually use the world chat to talk

based

>>166986807
whatever the freshest one is

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what was his story?

>>166986807
Zeth

>>166986912
he read the book and performed the act, which caused his palms to grow hair

>>166986942
Really?

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Lol! people actually hand play this server instead of botting with a chinese name so that the gms ignore you due to their agreement with the gold farmers , such idiots =^)

Wanna ask to join one of the guilds, what level does whispering unlock?

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>trying to grab the flight path in felwood as a level 35

>>166987076
60

>>166987092
I did that exact thing.

Aggro radius is insane.

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>>166987092
>decide to roll shaman
>already decided on resto
>forget I need good talents to level

>>166984370
4 classes can heal
1 can polymorph and conjure infinite water

>>166986436
Try 16.

>>166987409
how do you guys manage to play that much everyday?
i'm sure that's an exaggeration but jesus christ man, if ya'll are putting 16 hours a day you deserve all the in game rewards you can possibly get, but you also need to get out of the game for a bit, assuming you live on NEET bux or with family.

>>166983969
i bet you're using 2h

>>166987505
Nope, it's not an exaggeration, for r14 anyway. 16 hours a day for 6~8 weeks straight. It can be less depending on faction/population and if people stick to brackets but chinamen accountshare and play 24/7 regardless. Welcome to vanilla PvP.

>>166987068
this tweet combined with the lack of anticheat, and my own internal testing with bots and other script kiddie junk working without a ban, has lead me to quit the server.
truly unfortunate, for what could have been.

>>166987505
>i'm sure that's an exaggeration
It's not, you need 16 hours with a premade, 20+ without.

why are warriors not using thunderclap

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>mfw every time people try to slow my priest down with their shitty frost spells
oh look, all your buffs and shields are gone too :^)

>>166987583
thank you for the blogpost, citizen.

>>166987570
>>166987615
holy shit, yeah nah that ain't for me.

>16 hours a day for 6~8 weeks straight

so, after a couple months can you relax and just grind casually and keep your rank?

fuckin' chinamen, they don't ban them for that shit or what? it has to be fishy/suspicious when they don't ever log off.

>>166987653
>14% mana / cast

oh look your mana's gone too :^)

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60 paladins ITT

How did you go about reaching 60?

>>166986157
>Hunter targets everything with right click and keeps their pet of defensive
whats wrong with this? right click is melee attack, and defensive is pet attacks when you get attacked

if you are going to shit talk a class at least fucking know the most basic shit about them
i find that 8/10 times people crying about "le ebic bad hunter" are just shit tier tanks that cant tab target more than 2 mobs

>>166987505
I don't know about Nost or Ely but that's how it was on retail. It burned out most people who got to max rank. You can get to 10 or so with 4 hours a day probably if you have a premade but past that no chance.

>>166987804
If you're a hunter and you right click on a mob you don't attack it but your pet does, even if it's on defensive.

>>166987878
fuuuuck.

not even worth the time, to me, anyways. guess I'll go become a casul retail babby.

thanks for the info, anon, godspeed on your quest to whatever the fuck it is you're investing so much time into

quick, shaman warlock or priest?

>>166987969
monk

>>166987969
Shaman

>>166987969
priest.
everyone will love you for heals
you can mind control people off of boats and cliffs.
you are super tough to kill in wpvp

>>166987583
Yeah man this shit server blows, worst part is a majority of people dont even realize it.

>>166987969
priest has been living hell to level on elysium. became hopeless in the late 30s. good luck with that.

>>166988180
>these dumb fucks are enjoying themselves too much to know they shouldn't be having fun

/waitingforthenextFOTM/ master race

>>166987583
whats wrong with the tweet? i dont speak gook

>>166978625
>(You)

>yet ANOTHER vanilla private server

Is it at least x3 exp?

Or should I just move on.

>>166987804
Defensive makes your pet attack with you.

You're thinking of retail defensive, where they only attack things that are attack you.

What are the gathering profs like right now on Zeth?
Just made a new toon and im thinking about what to pick with my tailoring

>sick my tiger at orc warrior
>it fucking kills him
lmao

>>166988451
fucking furries

>>166988439
low level stuff is impossible to get because of competition
mid level stuff is plentiful because everyone is fighting over copper and pleaceblooms
high level stuff is impossible to get

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Do Dwarves not have proper bathrooms or something?

>>166984383
same but heal

>>166987782
Here's the answers you'll get:
>Hur dur bots, im so comfy.
>*POOPS*
>reroll kys alliance
>CRESTFALL HURRRRR
>Anethema PvP *Anime Girl*

Real answer: Just quest, it's a bitch, but it's what you¨ll have to do, sometimes you'll need to grind, that's a bitch. Just play. You're no mage or hunter.

>>166988745
Been half an hour and he got none of those replies, nor would they make any sense.

Maybe stop being so fucking triggered?

I hope I didn't just fall for the hunter meme.

>>166987782
spec tank
pull mobs
???
reach 60

>he fell for the hunter meme

>>166988997
Enjoy being invited to tranq shot and not being given loot until the raid is on farm

>>166987782
if warriors can reach 60 paladins definitely can
just fucking play normally it's not THAT bad

>killing timbermaws in Felwood
>get 2 quest items
>hey sweet 2 free quests
>can't open. google it find out I need neutral
>alright farming these isn't too bad, decent xp and cloth
>farm for 3 hours for neutral
>nothing happens
>google it
>ITEM ISN'T SUPPOSED TO EXIST IN THE GAME
great core

>>166989173
Which items

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So is this gonna stop anytime soon?

>>166989332
>keep opening my mail expecting love letters from faggots I've been ganking
>always this shit

also no it's never going to go away, they're too busy campaigning china to free vpns and fixing the warlock rename bug.

>>166989173
forgot their names since I deleted them, but you get 2 "starts a quest" items from killing the timbermaws. 1 from felwood 1 from winterspring

>>166989085
are they gonna vendor the mail agi loot?

>>166989487
yes just to spite you

>>166989487
Its what I would do.
Hunters and people who play hunters are severe faggots and noobs.

is tanking 5 mans as arms/fury viable or should I just specc prot?

>>166989832
if you're not an idiot you can easily tank it

>>166989832
You can tank anything with the right gear, prot spec is not that important in 5 mans

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>>166989664
Can confirm. I play a NE female hunter and I just got finished riding my horsedildo in makeup and female clothing.

Should Paladins prioritize +healing over int for healing dungeons (While Leveling)?

How much int = 1% spell crit for Pallies

>>166990151
Get theorycraft addon, it'll show you your crit and everything you need to know about your spells including efficiency etc.

You have 10 seconds to explain why you're still playing on this buggy shithole

Hey guys can you go check on my bot for me im going to orlando universal studios today.
Im a 60 rogue undead rogue running the Barrens gathering all the low level herbs.
Currently set to play 30 mins, log off 30 mins followed by a 2 hour break the 8th time and then repeat.
Should be logged in at the first half of the hour.
Thanks.

>They never got to feel what it's like being Legolas, the Night Elf Hunter in WoW.

Shame you didn't reserve any names, Anon.

Why are all UD warrior cunts

>>166990330
It's fun and I like fun

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Post cute Femdead selfies!

>playing a mage before dire maul

horrible

>>166990330
Crestfall isn't in open beta yet

>>166990895
>Horrible

They're capable of AoE farming, great mobility, best CC, infinite water/food so downtime is minimal, what the fuck more do you want

>>166990949
>no lvl 55 water until Dire Maul comes out

>>166987724
Never understood the point of this %mana/cast costing system. What's the point of giving maximum mana at every level then? And what's the point of stacking manapool even?

>>166991014
a bloo bloo bloo

>>166991039
Certain abilities don't have a scaling mechanic built in (you can't remove 30% of a debuff unlike damage which can scale) so they're scaled to mana instead. They're always a set cost, which is especially important for shit like dispel otherwise you would be spamming them 24/7 and making everything a total shitshow

So, how long will it usually take me to reach pvp rank 3 on Horde on Ely? I want that sweet discount

>>166991374
1 day

>>166991396
In BG's?

>>166991448
Not sure.
I went to duskwood and camped questing ally that were level 26ish as a OP level 30 warrior with whirlwind axe, my buddy whos a twinked out enhance shammy with windfury and we brought a druid and prieat with us. Got endleas hks, was there for 5 hours lol. The passive kills from wpvp from 30-40 kept me mid r3 the entire time too, no bgs for me.

>>166991714
>twinked
Oh wow, we have one of those people here.

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its <Salty Dogs> hours who up

takes two hours for a group to actually get in the dungeon

people refuse to loot mobs and the leader won't turn it off group loot because he's retarded and apparently likes loot just vanishing

every pull has extras

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>level 26
>15g respec already
guess the class

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Made some Alex Jones OC. Props to nazijews

Is there some info chart that shows the average levels of the population?

>>166992089
No class would require this.

>>166992089
Scrub

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>>166992090
Noice

>>166992089
Specs don't even do anything with so little points spend

Someone give me a build for lvling a pally and healing dungeons

>>166992476
You spec ret and also gather stuff with int to be a healer in dungeons. Done

>>166992090
are you THE alexjones from salty dogs tho

>>166992610
no. im nazijews

>>166992526
Lol @ spending points in ret

who /catplantASMR/ here?

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r8 build pls

>>166992926
ayy here

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>that time you used vanish and it worked

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>>166990809

>>166992329
>>166992374
>>166992406
its mage
those talent points are really important

>>166993415
cute, what hair do u have

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>>166993469
So make sure that you do it right the first two times, dippy

>it's another gnome mage with big white beard

wow

how unique

>>166990330
Population

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>>166990330
For Karu~

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>>166993508
same as yours

Theorycrafter here, I've played every class to level 60.

Should I make leveling builds?

>>166993469
No they are not, unless you want the aoe grind one and you should have invested points into that right away. This is not modern wow where talents are overpowered

>waaaah why can't we ever find tanks??

Who the fuck would ever level a warrior in vanilla? It's by far the single worst class to level in the game, even fucking priests, the dedicated healer class, has a an easier time.

I mean...vanilla warrior is so fucking AWFUL.

How the fuck do I put multiple traps in battle as a Hunter? They're just too useful not to pop them now and then both in PvE and PvP. Disengage says it puts me in an out of combat state but it clearly doesn't in reality. What gives?

>>166993469
M8, I can see respeccing exactly once as early level mage, which is when you realize that frost aoe farming is better for leveling than big dick fire dps. After that it's just you being an idiot

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>>166993824
>warrior is the most played class on the server
>nobody can ever find a tank
>even when leveling

>>166993515
>>166993731
>>166993971
>didn't get the extra slow talent my first respect
>went full aoe second respec
>third respec was me being pissed off at how many bots there were at all of the grinding spots so i went single target for questing
>fourth was me being pissed off at how many shitters are still level 26 so i went back to aoe

>>166993824
Just suck it up and let a pally with Righteous Fury on do it. They're the best levelling and endgame 5-man tanks. Maybe even later if people gave them credit and they had some mana restoratives.

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Anything i should change?
Going for pvp mixed hybrid utility

this game is shit and dead

>>166994108
>Maybe even later
Pallys lack proper gear to progress into raiding + they have no taunt which means there are fights in raids they straight up cannot do.
No guild that wants to move past MC will put any time or effort into a prot pally.

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>attacking cute fem gnomes


kys

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Would this be alright for tanking?

I'm retarded, is defense more important than armor?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LV0oZxxZEiz0e0dVo

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><BYO> organizes an MC pug raid earlier this week
>get a bunch of signups, including MOH
>raid is today
>they start raid, don't have enough douses
>they manage to kill 6 bosses after wiping on every boss
>every piece of relevant loot goes to players from MOH

>>166994062
So yes, nothing to do with the class and entirely you being a moron

>>166994334
Dunno if I should take that 1 point from tactical mastery and give it to Piercing Howl.

>>166994306
They're fine as off tanks, matey.

>>166994387
not really, what other class has such powerful early tier talents? those 5 points can make or break a mage. it should have been your first guess.

>>166994429
Sure they're "fine" but warriors are "great"
Why would I want someone whose just fine when i can have someone whose great?
Also like I said no taunt=cant off-tank certain fights.
Also like I said they lack consistently competitive gear as you progress further into raiding. Off-set tank gear is far and few between.

>>166994306
Worldfirst naxx had 2 prot pallys

>>166994451
>those 5 points can make or break a mage.

Your first five points aren't going to do dick. You're a shitter if you can't do fine as a Mage even if you were clinically retarded and spent no talent points at all

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not sure what to do with the last 5 points

>>166994574
This is bait right

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>point of zethcucks and pvefags dead server pops
>"m-m-m-m-muh 2.5k retail cap"

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Anathema PvP~

>>166993859
Usually just Feign Death, but you have to be careful with combat triggers. I forget what does and doesn't trigger combat, but I think pet attacks do. PVP combat rules are different, with combat dropping if you haven't dealt or received any hostile actions in however many seconds, so there is the possibility to drop combat and drop traps there without Feign Death.

Disengage's wording is just shitty. It just disables autoattack.

>>166994617
>muh ebin overcrowded chink realm

>>166994617
wtf r u talkin aboot

>>166987705
>so, after a couple months can you relax and just grind casually and keep your rank?
lol no, do you not understand honor decay ? that's the reason you have to grind as hard in the first place

>>166994649
Well, that explains a lot. Guess I gotta make a macro for pet attack off when I pop any of these two. Thanks a bunch, matey.

>>166994142
Get rid of +Str, LoH and imp BoM
Get BoK and Imp BoP/Freedom

Are shadow priests good in PvP?

>>166993653
hi nickleass

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How long is that hit list getting, lads? Got about 5 names I can't wait to hunt down and mercilessly camp.

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>Level ?? Rogue challanges me to a duel in Ratchet
>Turn off Ret aura.
>Let him instagib me, no fighting back
>He one-shots me
>Duel over
>Guards insta-net him
>He fuccin dies
>/lol

>>166994970
Add Metnox to the list pls.
Level 46 undead warlock.

>>166994878
They are fukken beasts

>>166994970
I dont have one because i bot so i dont have a reason to be upset.

Is there a vanilla version of speakinspell, or a vanilla equivalent floating around?

>>166994878
>DoT
>Run
>Shield/heal if attacked.

They're """"""""""Fun""""""""""""

Why the fuck can't I suddenly talk in any chat

reeeee?

>>166995179
Sad that the best way to level in this game is to not even play it.

>>166995179
>>166995261
>Botcucks

What's the point?

>>166995259
No

>>166995247
You're muted probably.

Try not being a faggot next time.

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>blink goes backwards instead of forward

>>166995402
>there was a point in pservers where blink would tp you anywhere in 360 deg

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why are human grrls so thicc?

I just get instantly disconnected when i try to log in. REEEEEEEEEEEE

how does weapon skill work exactly and how much do i need as a tank?

>>166995309
>levelcuck
Whats the point?

this maraudon run has taken like 5 hours and it isnt even over

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>>166995563

That cellulite mass isn't real thicc

>>166995832

Especially if you're a tank you have to level weapon skill.
Low weapon skill = miss/dodge/parry/absorb etc

shamans are niggers that only join groups for loot

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>>166989332
>Hi,my hero

>>166995563
That's not real thicc

>>166995563
F A T
A
T

>>166996152
Yes, thanks for the loot

>>166996152
as an alliance shamans are bros

i've never seen a shaman start shit up for no reason

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>>166996152
>join SM Cath as Holy Paladin
>Take Scarlet Legs AND head

How can other classes even compete against us Holybulls

>>166996568
What level are you? Ive only seen the h@rdc0r3 wundfurrry cR1tZ faggots running around purging and killing everyone

>>166996663
i'm 35

>>166994334
I would say the Crit and Extra rage in Fury is much better than the other two you've picked.

Also you always want at least 1 point in Improved Shield Block as it allows you to Block one extra attack.

>>166996732
Well, i hope your luck stays with you then.

>>166996812
>>166994334
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LV0xZVZEizoe0dVo

>>166996574
I just did same yesterday lol won both rolls.

>>166994334
You need 5 points in tac mastery. Defense is also better, in fact it's mandatory until the cap for crits, whatever it was.

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>tfw zethbull

>>166997030
The critcap is only 100 on stock mangos.

Do all mage spells and talents have fun server values on purpose? Everything in the frost tree is broken.

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>>166997191
You can literally spend every point in frost and win fights. Its a retard friendly class

is it really too much to ask to not use group loot when people don't loot corpses?

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>>166997295
>Giving everyone [large amount of money] would be a good thing

americans in charge of math

>>166997030
So is +armor not worth it?

>>166997490
except the server sells items via NPCs that are generated from nothing

you fucking bitch

>>166997918
Meaningless stuff.

Anything player-sold suddently has hyperinflation

>>166997465
that corpse belongs to them, they can do what they want with it bro.

>>166997989
dragon weapons and rune armor

gtfo fagget

>>166998078
Sorry, not familiar with children's games like runescape

where the fuck are all the alliance

feels like in every single contested zone i go i'm outnumbered 10 to 1 by dindus

>>166998175
>he wasn't a child in 2001

gtfo you old fagget

>>166998232
No, I was 9.

Which would have made me too old for it, sorry pal

BC is far superior to vanilla

>>166998504
Thats why the majority of us here are waiting for hellground

>>166998504
>Flying mounts
>Resil gear
>disconnected zone with all relevant content

nah

>>166998001
the gold on it doesn't as it automatically gets shared

nor do the skins

>>166998504
flying mounts ruined the game you cuck

>>166998560
Poles get out of my general

>>166998573
>>166998610
mad dindus who can only fight 3v1

hey guys this is shit lets wait for this new game/server. In the meantime we can just play nothing because then i wont be alone in waiting on something new and cool to happen (nothing will)

>>166998663
I already quit this stock mangos bullshit slav hellhole with no anticheat

>>166998573
>resilience broke muh game!
Just because you werent good enough at pvp to get geared in the latest pvp gear you're crying about getting assblasted.
Tell me why you should get an upper hand in pvp from pve?
Its like saying you should get better at lifting weights by running track. Just because you want to reap the reward from both.
Literally retarded

>>166998794
k

>>166998794
Resilience fucked up world pvp. On pvp servers, raiders are constantly shit on and have no fighting chance because they don't farm arena all day.

I have no idea where to go. I'm 49 and have about 12 dark red quests in my log and a ton of silver ! marks wherever i go. The zones that are on my level (ungoro and felwood) are completely dominated by the horde and every somewhat okay grindspot is over populated or lv52+ making xp gain at any reasonable rate impossible.

I got 3 chars to 60 in the first 6 months of vanilla but i don't remember any of the sheer content drought that i experience right now.

>>166998981
Every good raider was also very active in arenas during bc

fuck off you cuck

>>166998981
>i should be good at something i dont do!
ITS NOT FAIR!!!

>>166999025
>every raider also active in arenas

What? No they fucking weren't. Just because you did doesn't mean everyone else did dumbass.

Resilience ruined world pvp. Prove me wrong.

>>166999192
lmao you just played on a casual server

Literally everyone who cleared Sunwell was most likely a high rated arena player too

>>166999192
Read >>166999070
You fucking crybaby. I bet you're a liberal living in government assisted houseing with welfare checks too, because you deserve it right?

>>166998794
Resilience existed solely to make PVP gear useless for PVE because they didn't want people to do that for no reason.

You shouldn't have to grind for PVP gear on top of your raid just so you can stack the "now you can PVP now" stat that doesn't nothing but let you PVP other people with the PVP stat.

>>166999192
Found the PvE casualbabby.

Get the fuck out, pussy.

Is there a guild on Anathema?

>>166999238
>>166999257

Oh look it's a no counter-argument episode.

Resilience gear should only be enabled in bgs and arena.

Resilience is obviously a redundant stat added to force people to farm two sets of gear and double play time.

Seriously, why was is necessary otherwise?

>>166999389
The arguement ia dead and simple.
You dont deserve to have an upper hand in something you dont do.

>Actually doing arenas

>>166999456
Like arena gear beating a huge portion of entry raid gear?

>>166999456
See, that's the fucking problem you idiot. You don't get resilience gear from doing world pvp. You get it from arena and bgs. So why the fuck is that what dominates world pvp?

This is why vanilla was best. Both raid and pvp gear should be on the same level.

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>>166999238
>Calling anyone else a casual when you had to put on PvP-spec gear to fight PvE-spec people rather than an even playing field

>>166999606
>wpvp
>good

WoW pvp is shit in general. Why would anyone play this game for pvp?