/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

>>166936839
Based.

Reminder that EU4 is the best grand strategy game ever made.

>>166936839
nigger

>>166936839
White.

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Based Erdogan

>>166937017
What province uniqueness was there in HTTT? You had everything everywhere, gold was the only limiting factor to massing infrastructure.

where is DH download

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La Plata

>>166937392
finish your mod puto

>>166937392
Why do you post this? Is it supposed to look good or look like a shithole?

>>166937526
La Plata is white and based

>>166937326
Provinces had very different base manpower values that weren't nearly as effectful with the new manpower buildings added in DW.

yeehaw

>>166936839
black

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Reposting from the old thread

Zombiemod guy here, I added a new option after an anon suggested it to me. You can play as zombies now!

Zombies get almost no research points, can't westernize, and can't get non military reforms. They also have no political parties.

As for the bonuses, they get provinces they occupy after around 2 weeks of occupation, get massive amounts of soldier pops, lose the zombie outbreak modifier almost immediately regardless of occupation by rebels, and zombie rebels (mostly) avoid them.

If you don't play as them at the start (They start in one province in China) they immediately get annexed and never affect the game after day 2.

>>166936839
acidic

>all this butthurt
Niceee

>>166937392
work on your mod

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If I attack America, can I set up the US government again?

>>166937926
Not much a suggestion and more a joke and a flash of inspiration on your part t.bh

>>166936839
BLACKED AND NOT BASED

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for its first war the revolution has decided the logical course of action is to take on half the muslim world, by themselves

persia and the ottomans are both great powers so I could intervene, or wait to see if someone hates the turks more than they do the russians

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well it looks like I'm going to have to wait for 10 years for the international isolation modifier to wear off, meanwhile my war exhaustion will stay at the same percentage until then.

I guess I'll just work on industry and shit

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this one will REALLY make you think

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>Perfect worlds don't exist

>>166938256
I still really liked the idea, not going to add much more to them but the little option to play as them instead of just Britain/Spain simulator is nice. Plus they die off immediately if they aren't human so it doesn't affect too much.

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>>166938586
mother of god, those aren't just any troops, those are lategame ottoman troops

and they're still winning a 2/3 disadvantage battles

helps that they have russian napoleon fighting it though

Since we're on the topic of EU4, what mod do I play if I want an improved map and maybe some flavor events? Meow and Taxes is too laggy for me, pretty much unplayable.

What the hell do you do as Sardinia-Piedmont in HPM?

I always seem to do the decisions in the wrong order it feels.

>>166939047
>Sunnis are kill
>Catholicism much stronger

persuasive case desu

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>>166939047
FUCKING DELET THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>166939101
>those are lategame ottoman troops
Doesn't really mean that much

By russian napoleon do you mean that he's from an event or just that he's a good general?

Russians have 0.5 yearly army tradition, so their generals should net them another 0.6-1 extra pip over the ottomans.

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>>166939234
Political map is... Slightly less persuasive.
France/Castille/Portugal are in a big "fuck you" alliance that keeps me from wanting to go to war over the last bits of berberland + southern spain. Also Bosnia is in PU under France. France also has the same dynasty as Savoy and Moldavia (De Medici)

Meanwhile, Bohemia has been the Emperor for well over a century now, and has both Liege and Poland in PU. Poland is currently being integrated.

Meanwhile, when the heck is the new world supposed to be revealed to me.

>>166939464
dunno if he's an event but I was more talking about the fact they have a 4/6/5 general running around

might be an event general

>>166939101
>>166939464
>>166939570
Revolutionary government also gives +10% morale.

>>166939469
What map mod is this? Ill suck your dick if you tell me.

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>>166939101

If you lose a revolution to communists, and they revert your upper house reforms to ruling party only, does that mean you get to just take education and health care reforms nilly willy?

>>166940228
>Unzips
It's A Revolutionary Borders Mod

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>>166940259
Damnit.

>>166940341
Is it THE best map mod out there, or is there better?

>>166939047
To be honest this is almost fucking perfect. Protestant Britain+Nordics with Catholic Europe is exactly how it should be, and Shia Ottomemes is a beautiful thing I didn't even know I needed in my life.

>>166940486
France should be reformed desu

>>166936839
>[Deleted]
What did the janny mean by this

>>166939047
ottomans would never become shia
it would mean giving control of the imamate to a sayyid

>>166940449
neat, they're worth about double what the ottomans are worth

revolution is one hell of a drug

>>166940580
I don't think any King would willingly convert, Paris is worth a mass

>>166940709
also just found out they elected an "inspiring leader" great consul which is another +5% morale

>>166940708
>What is an arranged marriage to ensure the Osmanoglu bloodline will be a sayyid bloodline

>>166939047
>darial pass not in the caucasus
shows how much p*cocks knows about geography

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what the hell why is this such a huge event

anyway I don't think I'll do this considering the new government doesn't care about converting people to catholicism

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The Italian-American war between Haiti/Louisiana and Italy and her colonial possessions is over, from Haiti the Italian government is to take direct control of several trade ports, Jamaica, Havana and the eastern coast of Hispanola. From Louisiana though, the situation is less clear..

>>166940895
sayyid has to be someone of muhammads house

>>166931821
Three reforms as fucking FRANCE in 1499? Is this Ironmode?

>>166941080
are there any that exist today? I mean I know the first king of independent iraq was feisal, didn't he have lineage tracing back to muhammad considering his father was sherif of mecca?

>>166941017
>2
>4
>10

Kill yourself.

>>166941223
>Although reliable statistics are unavailable, conservative estimates put the number of Sayyids in the tens of millions.[6]

>>166940895
A union that would create a mirza.

>>166941223
of course
every one of them probably got a harem of 4 women

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>>166940794
>king

>>166941017
Take it then release it as a puppet to free it from the imperialist swines of europe

>>166941289
WWWEEEEEWWW ok lmao it's one of those things

>>166941309
That would be the real issue yes, you'd need not only a Sultana, but a Sultana that marries a Sayyid and keeps the family name. Pretty much impossibru.

Did they adopt? Maybe they could've adopted a Sayyid at some point.

>>166939047
>Catholic Estonia

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The territory is currently under complete Italian occupation, but as the war winds down it is clear the territory will have to be accounted for in the peace deal. Competition between New Italy and Medicia over where exactly the Mississipi is has led to a dispute, and it falls to us, as their protector, to decide the issue.

Option 1: Extreme Medician claim.
Medicia, the loyal and weak Texan colony is to be given all of the land they claim. This shall aggravate New Italy, but the minor colony of Medicia, ever faithful to mother Italy will surely become somewhat of a powerhouse through this.

Option 2: The New Italian demand.
New Italy, the problem child of the Italian empire, fragile and ineffective, yet nonetheless rebellious. The colonial governer advises against humouring them, as it will no doubt make them even more ambitious than they are currently.

Option 3: The Governor's suggestion.
The Governer of the North American holdings suggests a third option, splitting to two claims to either please both or please neither, depending on your world view. Whilst true, this option will come more amicably to the colonies this does of course risk strengthening both of them, possibly to the point of distraction.

Option 4: If you kids can't play nice..
There is another thought crossing the Emperor's mind, simply declaring the area a new colony, with a new governor. Though this won't be accepted by either colony they really are powerless to refuse the Emperor's word.

Why is EUIV so fucking shit ?

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damn potatoes

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ENEMIES OF THE REVOLUTION
this is gonna be happening every fucking 2 years isn't it
I guess I just need mass politics asap for ideological propaganda but that's another 20 years away

>>166941240
it used to be 1,3,1 before the revolution, I had 1500 prestige actually ;_;

>>166941717
lads you were supposed to tell me what i should do

>>166941717
3 but follow the Mississippi as the border

>>166941717
>4
Transrubicon

>>166941680
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_adoptional_jurisprudence

>>166941893
Literally disable Jacobins lad. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with the stupidity of bushwacking Jacobins every couple of years.

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>>166941595
>mfw you are a raging faggot who play GS games to feel somewhat in control of something in your life when your emotions and sense of self has gone out the window.

>>166941595
Is that suede?

>>166941595
prove you dont have a cock
or prove that i could never tell you have a cock

>>166941071
yea right, as if Italy could ever beat the USA, even in thirteen colony form

sorry but your campiagn is now in the bullshit zone. Italians have been utter shite at combat since before 1444 rolled around

>>166942346
>implying I have enough cash for that
It's suedette

>>166941893
>plays as frank
>doesn't have frankfurt

>>166942521
I never understood why Italy gets such good NIs in eu4, they were an utter joke in that time period

I guess paradox has a hardon for them like they do the ottos

>>166941717
Medicia along the Missouri River. Possible further expansion into Mexico
New Italy restricted to yellow
Cabotia to then expand to meet the other two

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>>166942046
>>166942085
>this is all i can take
FUCKING BULLSHIT EU4 YOU BULLSHIT GAME

>>166940709
>neat, they're worth about double what the ottomans are worth
In terms of gov, national ideas and assumed religion(and assuming 100 piety) yeah.

If they both have offensive ideas and no other ideas the russians would be worth 30% more.

What ideas do the ottomans have?

Russia had Quant+Off+Def right?

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full gommunism achieved

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>start as the papal states
>secure alliance with france, castille and austria

kingdom of god here I come

>>166943149
Bien joué camarade!
Sus aux impérialistes!

>>166943220
rather than forming kingdom of god, you should try to become the only catholic nation so you get control of the curia.

>>166943149
vomiting

>>166943149
>colonies
not REAL gommunism

>>166943434
If you form the kingdom of god you get automatically and permanently all the bonus of the curia controller

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should i grab cuba too or just stay in central america?

>>166943830
THEY WILL BE REFORMED INTO STATES SOON ENOUGH
except egypt I guess because I don't see how I'll get enough french bureaucrat pops, maybe I'll just release it. But it's the same problem I have with vietnam right now, if I release it, it will be unciv, which is stupid considering I released ivory coast, senegal, and madagascar as civs with all my techs

>>166943941
>26
>120

W E W

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r8 my ck2+ norse kingdom immediately after my prepared invasion of fatimads. started as the count of aland

i could've gone deeper into the fatimids but i stopped after getting africa+sicily+all their algier territory

i'm pondering what religion to convert to: catholicism for snorefest, muzzies for OP jizya, or try to get a rare paulician woman to satisfy my need for OP religion (paulician in ck2+ can raid/crusade/holy war ANYONE, can raise zealots with piety like tribals use prestige, etc)

unfortunately the only paulician county is in the middle of anatolia, so yeah that'll be interesting to try to pull off

>>166943941
Take Cuba and eventually Jamaica plus the Caymans for AESTHETIC maritime borders

>>166944105
>W E W
i got real lucky with wars till the last one as for the economy all my capitalists want to build are liquor factories

>>166943830
Half of the PCF did support French Algeria you know

>>166943938
No you don't.

>>166944506
Huh, you're right, they must have changed it then

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>>166942913
>Cabotia to then expand to meet the other two
I'll have to war Newfoundland pretty soon.

How the fuck do you industrialise Ethiopia? It's just fucking cows

>>166944250
they know what's profitable then

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this game is really getting on my nerves

fucking shit streets ahead of time on military tech

how am i supposed to conquer india?

>>166945053
industrial cow facilities.

capitalismus is the only way to go, encourage capitalists and craftsmen and clerks, just kind of let it run. build a couple of starting factories in each state to get things rolling initially

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>>166944987
Canada looks like such a meme now.

>>166945205
You're not, you evil altrighter.

In HPM, as unciv Shogunate Japan, I can win the critical first war vs Qing by setting the wargoal as Formosa and starting the war right after the Heavenly Kingdom rebels in ~1850. With the ticking warscore on an island I can eventually take about 2 regions from them (3 if I include Formosa)

After I have ticking warscore I usually add the substate wargoal so I can snatch the vladivostok-region away before russia gets it. But should I: take formosa as well, or save it for my next war with qing to have an easily available ticking warscore target?

And if so, what should I take instead? Since I am still unciv I've been thinking about taking a super high pop state that post-westernization won't be available until I tech up a fuckton. None of the coastal states of Qing proper have coal or iron though, so I'm not sure which region to grab. At this point I'm thinking about just grabbing the highest pop coastal one, which is one of the states around shanghai.

>>166945205
>letting india get ahead on tech
it's over
superpower by 1750, space by 1800

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>>166937926
I didn't put much thought to it but I didn't like seeing that weird anonymouse flag there so how about for now you use this for zombies? Or do you have something else in mind?

>>166945672
>weird anonymous flag
Yeah, I really didn't like it, but I didn't have any idea for a new one so I stuck with it.

I could use that, but do you have something a little less pirate looking? I definitely want a new flag, preferably with a skull or something, but without any pirate-ish look (although given the scope of pirate flags that might be difficult).

k lads
>>166945205
install realistic institution from the workshop it fixes that shit

>>166945524
they were always 3 levels behind max

it's difficult for the player and impossible for european ai to get trade ports let alone conquer some significant land

this game was so much fun before paradox ruined it

>>166945496
>not annexing Manchuria and Korea while Unciv so they start as states

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>>166944250
dang kebab has fallen on hard times

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>>166945963
Just use this

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>>166945963
I'll try to come up with something. By the way, I think it's a neat idea that you had the zombie thing start in China, did you get inspired by the Black Plague? If you were, apparently before it got to China it started around the area of what today is Bangladesh, just in case that knowledge is useful to you at all.

>>166946251
hey afp guy what do you think of these super amazing flags

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-to-v2-converter-flags.790645/

>>166945984
>realistic institution
you mean this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799961500

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>>166938236
>nearly 1940
>only 88 IC
Lad, hyper industrialization is the only way to retake the homeland.

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>>166945963
How about this? I remember using the crown of thorns motif in the past and I think it may be suitable here, representing the infected blood/virus of the zombies. Also it looks edgy and ridiculous, like the premise of the mod itself :^)

>>166946447
Some are interesting, with good designs, most are Paradox tier though.

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>>166945672
Hey AFP, could you make me a couple far-right Slavic nationalist flags? Its for KR AAR I might do as Savinkov (the new Wrengel). I need a national flag, and then a flag for the combat squads. Is that possible?

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The end result of the first revolutionary war

Persia peaced out early by giving up all their lands near the aral sea

>>166946490
did you do nothing but build IC?

>>166946226
>anarcho-primitism
If I used that as a zombie flag I wouldn't be able to take them seriously

>>166946251
Yeah, I was inspired by the Black Plagie on this one. I appreciate the info, I actually had no idea it started in Bengal, but I wanted to keep it in China just so anyone playing as zombies doesn't get stomped by the bongs.

Will getting Alternate Flag Pack and just shoving the entire first folder into my flag folder make my old saves unplayable? No, right?

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>>166946847
and the entire Chagatai nation was vassalized while the turks got off light

well at first sight that is because the polish decided to declare war on the turks as well

wondering who'll they'll pounce on next, literally everything around them is a monarchy

>>166946815
I don't see why not. Just give me the size you want them in. Also I've never made, nor do I know much about flags for combat squads so you are gonna have to tell me as detailed as possible what you need, at least in terms of size and proportions.
Also knowing what the flag ingame looks like would be useful (please tell me it's not that silly pseudo-nazi flag I've seen in some screenshots).

>>166946951
It's just image files, so you'll be ok. Just remember to erase flag cache so they update in your old saves.

>>166945218
But I'm gonna be communist

>>166947148
that will be quite difficult

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>>166947037
>I don't see why not. Just give me the size you want them in.
Basically the size of the image in >>166946815 more or lress

>Also I've never made, nor do I know much about flags for combat squads so you are gonna have to tell me as detailed as possible what you need, at least in terms of size and proportions.
Think Russian SS, basically. Use Slavic mythological imagery instead of Germanic, and you are golden.

>Also knowing what the flag ingame looks like would be useful (please tell me it's not that silly pseudo-nazi flag I've seen in some screenshots).
Yeah, its the stupid Slavic-nazi flag with the red background, white circle, and the Slavic cross replacing the Swastika. I really hate that flag, so I'd prefer if you just made your own original one.

>>166947405
So... canned food?

What's the theocracy event code?

there any decent ancient world mod for ck2 or eu4?

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>>166946864
Not entirely, I've been building up my army and airforce as well, but yeah I've been constructing factories since '36

>>166946801
Better, can you replace it with a red circle though? Might be less euphoric.
tfw wanted to add zombie death cult rebels that try to get your nation infected but it finally realized how stupid it was

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Should I embrace revolution?

Why is Sunset Invasion hated again? It adds to the gameplay of Western Europe by being forced to deal with a mongol-type invasion like in the east

>B-b-but its ahistorical

The games in general are ahistorical once you unpause

>>166948109
depends on the narrative you're forging for your campaign really

>>166948218
muh borders

>>166941893
Reminds me of a game where I went fascist as france after losing a great war and had to literally mobilize to fight rebels

>>166948218
It's ahistorical is the main reason.

Personally, I just wish they'd have made a North/South America DLC instead.

>>166948272
I currently have no heir and an old ruler, so I'll probably go for it. Will it break my PU over Norway and Sweden?

>>166948441
i thought that was just a parliamentary monarchy ?
shouldn't even change your head of state no ?

>>166948897
Beats me I don't really play EU4

>>166946108
Those are easy to conquer later and take less than a decade to state them. Conquering Qing later forces you to take shitty low pop states or wait 50+ years.

Unciv Tokugawa is one of the very few nations that can take any state off Qing china in HPM, why pass that up for manchuria, which doesn't have the 2mil+ pop restriction HPM does.

I did take outer manchuria to fuck with russia having a warm water pacific port, plus it has lots of coal. I ended up taking that region right above shanghai, north zhejiang or something, I can't remember which chinese state is which there's so many north this and south that.

>>166948218
There's a difference between ahistorical and surreal.
Aztecs or Incas surviving isn't quite surreal, them raiding Europe in the early 1000s is, even with the whole early contact with vikings story.

>>166946478
any other good balance mods for eu4?

Harris, pls make a pastebin

>>166948990
The reason you don't take those states is that the borders look like fucking dogshit.

>>166943149
Enjoy 50 years of no actual way to lower militancy

>>166936827
I'd like to get into EU4 but fuck me that is a lot of expensive DLC. Does it go on sale much?

>>166949736
no

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This is my husbandu
God gave it to me

>>166947608
I guess
Lad you're gonna have a shit time unless you want to subsidize every factory even if it's unprofitable and just keep building and expanding randomly
For a country with shit rgos really the only way to go is capitalist

>>166949914
>le mean ai guy

>>166949914
could anyone shop "cuck and proud" on it?

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What should my goals be when I finish the conquest of Indonesia?

How hard is it to learn DH? I really want to try Kaiserreich but the complexity appears staggering compared to modern paradox games.

Should I watch some youtube tutorials to get a feel for it, or just jump in and try to swim?

>>166949793
Welp, that's too bad.

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Well, that was fun

Now what

>>166950082
It'd be better to shop an actual quote from him, they can be way worse than that.

>>166947037
The combat squads were the terrorist organization of the social revolutionary party.

>>166946478
no i mean this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840179139&searchtext=institution

>>166950268
"Realism isn't a meaningful argument" seems good to me

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>>166950086
recover french Flanders

>>166949163

>>166950368
there

>>166950086
Get the estuaries and CoTs that you can turn into trade companies in the eastasian regions.
Get more trade companies in africa. Maybe in india, get nepal as a march vassal and let them have all the province in the bengal trade node that you aren't using for your trade company.

>>166949934
Fuck me lad.
Guess it'll be a liberal paradise instead.

>>166950086
>colonizing Colombia instead of northern Brazil

>>166950086
Take Mutapa or Madagascar
Try to release some nations from France

>>166950862
*fucks you*

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>>166951037
Post pops

>>166950194
Play as Ternate/Tidore instead, since they start off unknown to the entire world except ~8 countries, they can blob like mad and completely ignore AE, since countries can't join a coalition against a country they can't "see" diplomatically.

It starts off a bit slow, but using the other spice island as your rival-CB fodder you can start vassalizing nations like makassar before springboarding to majapahit, brunei and so on. Eventually I like to move my capital to cyprus or some other remote european island so I can get trade companies for mad ducats

If you are asking where to expand next, I'd suggest Pagarrayang or whatever it is called between Siak and Pasai, due to the gold mine there. After that, start chewing on Malacca and Pasai+Siak, start colonizing asap.

>>166951189
>Eventually I like to move my capital to cyprus or some other remote european island so I can get trade companies for mad ducats
But muh err pee

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>>166951180

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>>166947519
Sorry, had to go somewhere, I'll begin thinking about what I may do about those.

>>166948037
How's this?
The zombie death cults aren't such a silly idea, actually. I remember some old zombie game which featured such death cults, they are pretty common in zombie fiction, and the XIX and XX centuries had lots of esoteric cults going on so it wouldn't be that farfetched. Plus, if you are gonna make a meme mod, may as well be colourful about it.

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Anybody here play After the End?

I played the guy who owns where I'm from because I have no semblance of originality. Made my liege- the King of Socal- fold under to his rightful Californian Emperor, who thusly used the King as a club to get the rest of the unruly Californian daimyos out of the way. Now I'm a king-sized duke under the Californian Emperor, about the size of Socal myself, and control most of the area from LA to Las Vegas.

The Russians and Japanese have both had some short-lived landings on our shores, both establishing colonies that were eventually wiped out.

Been a fun game.

>>166952021
>I played the guy who owns where I'm from because I have no semblance of originality
who cares about originality when you can have fun.

redpill me on liquoria2 forts

Is there a way to give a different flag to constitutional monarchies than republics have?

Germany having the black red gold tricolor as a const. monarchy is pretty fucking gay

>>166952290
W A S T E
A
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>>166951646
How is Hansong not the most populated state?

>>166949283
I'll probably make one when I start adding big event chains, like the Babist Civi War or an Arab backed state in Madagascar fighting for control of the island. Right now it's just an improvement of the base game, but I want to add a bunch of stuff as long as it isn't too memey.

>>166951682
Oh, should've been more specific I guess, I meant a filled in circle on the skull, I think it will look good as a simple horde flag.

varg is right

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>>166952760
I think hollow circle looks better, but that's just me.

>>166952760
Any ideas about Iceland?

>>166950103
Also want to know this

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How the fuck do I get mods to work with a pirated version of EUIV? I've followed instructions to install them using Steam Workshop Downloader and they show up as active in my game but nothing is actually changing and it's as if they aren't even installed.

>>166952892
Oh shit, you might be right, can you outline the skull in black and leave the insides (eyes, mouth and stuff) black as well? Want to see if that makes it better

yeehaw

>>166953154
try not being a pedophile

>>166951037
Mid to late game china battles are fun as hell

>>166951646
M8 get more craftsmen you could be an industrial god

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>>166953156
How's this?

>>166953263
this

>>166953154
the actual .mod file might still be in the individual mod folder. you have to pull it out to the mod folder

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>>166953409
Not Harris but it looks stunning

>>166952713
I think starvation in the early games always tilts Busan towards becoming the most populous state

>>166953409
I like it, do you have any suggestions to make it better?

>>166950537
It really pisses me off that (((everyone))) seems to forget that France was the original aggressors and stole land that rightfully belongs to spain/nederlands/german princes/italy. And that isn't even discussing their hitler-style land grabs like the burgundian inheritance, or the failed italian wars.

France is now allll for self-determination and shit, except when it comes to the bretons, burgundians, occitans, savoyards, fleminsh, dutch, etc etc. They are some of the biggest hypocrites in the world.

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>>166953901
The French are scum and the Dutch/Flemings quite literally dindu nuffin

>>166953901
No one forgets that the French were the biggest dicks. When someone takes your shit and you can't take it back with force it's their shit now.

>>166953901
>the jewish lie of everyone (other than me)

>>166951527
Until paradox enables trade companies for non-europeans, having your capital in europe is a no brainer for any nation that wants to move trade from far away to your trading node.

Especially as a country in SE Asia, Malacca/Bengal are good nodes to make into pseudo-end nodes (although Zanzibar is best), and the extra merchants you can get via trade companies are simply too good to pass up, imo. Ducats > arrrrr peee

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>>166953889
I can't think of anything really. Good flags are simple, so I wouldn't recommend *adding* something extra.

I guess an alternative is scrapping that design altogether and attempting to reconstruct the XVIII century "plague panel", which could be cool, but would take more time to get it right so I doubt I'll have it done today.

>>166952713
baby boom events in pusan, repeated disease outbreak in hanseon, maybe a combination of both?

>>166953150
So, anyone with Darkest Hour experience mind answering this? How hard is this game, and should I watch a tutorial on yt before starting a game? What's a good newb country?

>>166937392
stop
t. actually really unironically Hitlermod

>EU4
>playing as Poland
>get first ever non-event PU (Bohemia)
>can't form PLC if you have more than one PU
>have to abandon the Bohemia PU to do the Poland -> PLC -> Prussia run before the 1600's that I planned

why don't lucky things ever happen to me

>>166954489
See >>166937425 and >>166938162

>>166954367
Wow, that actually looks insanely cool, I'd love to see a flag based on that, sans the laurels maybe. I don't really care when it's done, but if you could make a flag based off of that it would be great, I love the design of the skull and crossbones.

>>166954046
I dunno where you live, but in America everyone thinks of the French as 'surrender monkeys', despite the fact that Napoleon was, y'know, French.

Considering most Americans know jack shit of history before ww2 except 1066 and 1492, I'm not exactly surprised, but still it irks me when people act like France was some benevolent pacifist nation until the NGF took A-L. Of course when the French want A-L back bc of revanchism it is OK, but when Germany wants their rightful clay back bc of revanchism they are suddenly ZE WORST HUN EVAR.

>>166954802
No one in America knows what happened in 1066.

>>166954762
>I love the design of the skull and crossbones
Of those specific skull and bones or of the idea of having a sukk with bones crossed behind it?

If I finish the Slavic flags the other anon asked me I may start it, but expect them for tomorrow, in any case.

>>166954802
>>Considering most Americans know jack shit of history before ww2 except 1066
i don't know a single non history nerd who knows anything about 1066

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>yfw Basileus converts to Islam
>yfw balkans revolt immediately

>>166954601
>Poland -> PLC -> Prussia
Culture shift? Either way that's disgusting.

>>166954975
yea.

I have a few hundred hours in V2 and EU4 and I still enjoy mindless blobbing. That may change one day.

>>166954802
I am also American and no one thinks of France as a benevolent pacifist nation. In fact no one really thinks of France as anything but striped shirts, baguettes and the Eiffel Tower.

>>166955043
I'm approaching 600 hours on EU4 alone
I've never blobbed hard or even come close to a WC
I'm getting pretty good at combat though so I have that going for me at least

>>166954802
Kids in high school that just took their world history finals do; but you're right, the vast majority of Americans would rather read about Game of Thrones' history instead of real history.

Thank god for shows like Vikings/The Last Kingdom that actually get people interested in actual history - despite being dramatized - not G.R.R's make believe kingdoms set in oversized Britain and city-state+steppe island.

>>166954489
La Plata MUST be groß

>>166954925
Those specific ones, I like the fact that it doesn't look too much like a stereotypical pirate flag, and the jawless skull looks good for authenticity as well.

Take your time on the flag, it's not a main tenent of my mod it anything.

>>166955284
>vikings
>actual history
cute

>americans
>being dumb
wow lads who would have known, not like they are the least white and based country in the first world

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Around the 1870s or so I took Java from the Dutch and released it as Indonesia. Now in like 1908 I got a free dismantle CB against the Netherlands so I decided to remove stroopwafel from my rightful colonial empire and ended up splitting the Indies with Germany.

Now I would rather give all this shit to Indonesia, but is there any way to do that? I guess I could just changeowner everything, but Indonesia doesn't even have cores on anything except for Java. Is there some event later on or something?

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>>166954971
Based South Slavs

>>166946108
that never works for me, what am I doing wrong

>>166955663
I guess you missed me saying those shows were dramatized, but I completely understand, you were tripping over yourself to post a snarky reply that a hollywood show isn't 100% historically accurate. As if that isn't common knowledge.

>inb4 i was just pretending to be retarded

>>166955968
play a real game with subject interactions like eu4

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>>166954802
>despite the fact that Napoleon was, y'know, French.

>>166954802
America is preoccupied with its relationship with France to the exclusion of what they did in Europe. So it basically goes.

>France helped us against the British!
>Then we bought the Louisiana Purchase from them! What suckers!
>But everyone in France started shitting on us and calling us inferior! Fuck them!
>Then they surrendered to Hitler in WW2! What losers!
>Now the French keep insulting us all the time and won't get involved in any of our wars! France sucks!

So they have an image of being assholes, but also of being huge cowards.

>>166955968
Once you "organize" a colonial nation like Indonesia/Nigeria via decision in HPM, it typically only starts with a few cores, but every year or two it will gain cores via event and spread out. I'm not sure how this works on the seperated islands of the east indies, but in Nigeria it had all of it's cores within ~10-15 years or so after being 'organized'.

Are the cores of your Indonesia colony not expanding? Have you done the 'organize Indonesia' decision?

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Wait, what? What kind of bullshit event is this? They're in the sphere of the Ottomans, I'm a dead man.

>>166955968
You can't, the cores spread as you organize the colonial nation and have provinces neighbouring them. Once they're independent, those are their final cores, unless they have a decision to claim something like Somalia has.

>>166956342
I think Indonesia was already organized by the Dutch before I invaded them the first time because I never had the option to do that decision, but I could release Indonesia. I guess I could wait a couple of years to see if they start gaining cores, I only just annexed all of the new parts.

>>166955284
>Vikings
Isn't that the show where there are a bunch of black vikings for no reason?

>>166956453
The eternal Saud strikes again

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>>166956342
>>166956456
>>166956475

>>166956325
Wow America sure seems like a cancerous place.

>>166956671
For not caring about the events in Europe or for hating France for hating us?

>>166956453
You're not, both nations have a conquert CB so the Ottomans won't intervene unless they accept the instant call to war.

>>166956750
Fuck off murifat we dont want your kind here, All you do is shitpost and express your large patriotism ego as a way to compensate for an exceptionally small penis
>>>/leddit/

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>>166956453
>>166956892
Well fuck. I guess this is the end of the road.

>>166956931
I was just asking a question. I want to know what about it triggers you.

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>>166951037
Get on my level loser.

>>166956671
france is gay tbqh

>>166956750
For excessively expressing their emotions on little things t bh

>>166955968
If Japan had had those islands conquered before WW1/WW2, the world would probably look quite a bit different today.

>>166957005
Well people don't normally think about France at all, it only comes up occasionally.

Though I think France hating America is a good reason for Americans to hate France. Fair's fair.

>>166956984
>beleiveable worlds
go play a real gsg like eu4 lad
also post liquor factories

>>166957028
Wow, what a deep and insightful post.

The French were just mad that Benjamin Franklin seduced all their wives when he was the diplomat to France.

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Will the lewdmod add capability to transform yourself into a monstergirl? That would be nice.

>>166944118
If you're CK2, think of some of the others. Bogomil is nice, and Messalian allows some pretty sweet mechanics.

You could also do something crazy like Buddhist or less crazy Manichean (since it was a pretty wide reaching religion).

>>166946815
Not AFPG but did do this long ago. Sorta nasty but again was a long long time ago.

subs when

>>166956937
This literally never happened in any if the games I've played and I've played a lot.
This is in the same tier of the Ottomans annexing Egypt fully while you're playing as an Ethiopian minor.
>>166956980
Ignore the shitposter, he's not me.

>>166957094
That save is like a year old my son.

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Never played EU4 before. What are some good starter campaigns. Will post them here and rp a bit if someone recommends me somewhere to start

>>166957067
Pretty ironic since the French were instrumental in us Americans being able to successfully fight off the Britbongs.

Also because perfidious Albion had burned almost all their bridges in the decades leading up to the Declaration of Independence. If we had fought the full might of England we wouldn't have had a chance.

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>>166957201
It's actually not too bad. The Ottomans were involved in another war meaning I had time to conquer the Al-Rashid capital. Then I could white peace them out, removing the war goal from both sides.

>>166957225
Muscovy

>>166953901
We all know Louis XIV was a dick but that doesnt mean you get to be a dick too.

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>>166957287
And with no war goal on either side the Ottomans were happy with a white peace.

Truly HPM creates the most believable of worlds.

>>166957260
France only did it to piss off the British, anyway. They didn't have any real altruistic cares for America's grievances, and after the war they pretty much started with the "Americans are inferior pigs! France strong!" rhetoric almost immediately.

>>166957225
england lad
unify the isles and make a colonial blob
Holding onto your french holdings will probably be to hard, dont feel bad about giving them up

>>166957225
Ottomans for general OPness, France for european OPness, Castile for being decently strong+right behind portugal for colonizing, Portugal for comfy colonizing and not doing much else.

Once you know the mechanics then I would suggest slightly harder starts, like Muscovy, BBurg, any non-euro nation, etc.

>>166957443
>mfw they are right to this day
murifats are human trash tbqphwyf

>>166957287
Noice, I would have just ragequitted.
You'll get the same event later on though, what's the likelyhood of the Ottomans falling from GP status soon?

>>166954802
>in America everyone thinks
heh

I'm going to try mughals in hpm

1840 right now, just sitting here encouraging intellectuals

when do I get the meme events that give me free shit

>>166957554
America isn't a German vassal state, frog.

>>166957438
>hiding the troops in Sana'a
ebin

>>166957567
They're number 8 at the moment, so hopefully before the event triggers.

I've just recently started playing HPM, so a lot of events are new to me, and since Victoria 2 does an awful job of telling you the full extent of what events do, I'm in for a ride.

>>166957260
I just think it is hilarious that right after helping the Americans get their independence, the French monarchs unwittingly set off the French revolution, leading to the chain of events that led to the rise of Napoleon, the original fedora tipper.

Like, what did the French kings would expect to happen? That their French troops coming home from abroad, would scoff at the American's ideals of liberty and freedom, before going back to their shitty village run by the greedy lord? Ancien Regime wasn't too bright.

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>>166957376
>>166957451
>>166957489
Thinking about unify the isles under the superior anglo boot. Will post screens soon

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I know youre here. Thanks for making the game playable again.

>>166957692
Ottos usually fall from GP status after the Oriental crises and never recover, but if that doesn't fuck them over, the Crimean war definitely will.

Also I see your diplomacy is at 8 points, please don't let it sit at 9 points wasting away your +.2 diplomacy a month, at the very least start improving relations with the UK or France or something so their odds of sphering you go up, which will greatly protect you from the Ottos.

>>166958047
Yeah, I'm usually pretty shit at using my diplo points. The Crimean war ended a long time ago, but the Ottoman Empire finally fell from GP status.

Now, I want the event to trigger since the Al-Rashids are weak af at the moment, meaning I can get a free conquest CB against them.

What are the triggers for the event? Or is it just as long as we two exist and it has a MTTH?

Hey Flag guy, how do I change the flag of a country for Constitutional Monarchy?

I know Russia has a special flag for it that isn't like the Republican or Monarchist.

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>>166957598
plses resposnsd

>>166957767
England is really easy to unify in eu4, at least compared to ck2. As long as your navy can prevent naval invasion by the France+Scotland alliance, you can roll over everyone on the isles by 1500.

I suggest vassalizing one of the irish minors and setting the rest as 'vital interest' so they will fabricate claims for you, and you can feed them the whole of ireland except for the pale before eventually integrating.

You can do the same thing in south France if you want to try to win the Hundred Years War: release Gascogne as a vassal from Labourd+Bordeux, which has an additional cores on 7-8 French provinces.

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>>166958325
Will try and do this. Not gonna lie most of that sounds foreign to me but ill make it work.

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>>166958202
I am angry.
ANGRY ABOUT REFORMS

>>166957923
desu this could be coded in a better way by giving
>-X% based on development, or +X% if it is high development
>-50% spread in deserts, less in other terrain etc
having a blank "is africa" way is lazy desu, when they are easily linked mechanics in the game already

>>166957923
ahahaha niggers

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>>166958534
What are you doing lad. Will you try to create Arabia or what

>>166957225
Muscovy is retard-proof. It was my first successful run because not much can go wrong and you're kind of isolated if you can keep PLC under control.

>>166958202

I've honestly never played any nation in Arabia in HPM, so I have absolutely no idea how the unification process works

>>166958707
doubt a first time eu4 player can win the first plc ruski war lad

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>>166958682
Yeah, I'm trying to create Arabia and unite Egypt, the Arabian peninsula, as well as Jerusalem under one banner.

Although the Ottomans are really annoying since they tend to conquer a lot of stuff I need.

Also, time to die Rashid cunts

>>166958707
One of the best things for new players as Muscovy is if they blob too much and fall behind in tech a bit, they will still be able to wreck nomads out the ass

>>166957923
Based, and most likely white
The hero we need, but not one we deserve

Is there anyway to force mingsplosion? its 1535 and I'm in a dead lock against them and Korea. Their heir has a strong claim too. I can survive the 80k-45k vs 25k-30k wars but i'm drowning in debt and i have no one to consistently go to war with for unity.

>>166958530
The diplomacy of eu4 has been expanded upon a bunch so it is a lot more ((advanced)) than ck2/vic2 diplomacy.

For example, when you right click on your country and you bring up the diplomacy screen, near the bottom is a flag-looking button. Clicking on that will show all the countries you can release, most of which you should ignore - but sometimes it can be worth it, like releasing Gascogne for 'free' cores. Free cores are one of the best ways to expand in eu4, due to vastly reduced aggressive expansion for using the 'reconquest CB' and reclaiming cores.

The diplomacy screen also has an option for you to set provinces as "vital interest" which is pretty important and something that is easily glossed over - but without it, your allies and vassals won't know what provinces you want, and your vassals won't fabricate hardly at all.

Stuff like estates and such will be a foreign concept for you, so I suggest either watching an up-to-date tutorial on youtube or just dive into the game and learn, but if you don't know an important mechanic exists and ignore it you will get in trouble (like not setting any provinces as vital interest, then getting upset when your allies don't give you any land in peace deals)

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>>166958919
In 140 years we should celebrate this somehow.

Do I need the patch for 3.0.4 to use HPM Big flag frames?

>>166958814
>implying you have to go to war with them

>>166958291
PLEASAE

RRRRESSSPSPONND

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>>166959315
So I don't really want to waste potential infamy by sitting at zero, but both Oman and the Trucial States are in the UK's sphere, and the only other neighbor is the Ottomans.

Any advice?

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>>166959309

is it at all possible CK2 will ever add another succesison or government type to muslims?

they kinda fucking suck

>>166959762
No because the bonuses from the Religion itself are great

>>166959762
what?
Muslims probably have the most convenient succession, and iqta is convenient minus decadence which is very, very easy to keep down

you also get free duchy revocation and vassal retraction as iqta which is like having imperial laws hundreds of years early

>>166959327
yes

>>166959674
play as egypt. Nejd is impossible

>>166959920
Where the fug is the download?

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fertile slovakia

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>>166959674
Aww yiss

>>166960147
Should've taken Sana'a when they were still independent desu

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order is the go-to, right? productivity looks good though

>>166960305
I couldn't, they were allied with an Al-Rashid that were stronger than me at the time, and with a stronger Oman.

Only time they became weak was after the first Saudi Civil War, since they joined in with the Ottomans, then I had a truce with them, and then another war.

>>166960452
Productivity is always the best except for New World nations

>>166960452
Productivity is always the go-to option if you don't have a China tier population. Since you will probably want to unite India, you'll have a China tier population, though.

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>>166960147
So since I have no monetary reforms I can't go into debt. So what'll happen if I select this?

>>166960796
Literally nothing, go for it.

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>>166960907
Yup, I got to go for free, basically.

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In England today the lineage is safe. A female will take the throne, but at what cost? The Pope calls out in shock, but many in English elites care little for his opinion. Despite this, no one wishes to be excomunicated like the vile Frenchmen were. Trying times are ahead.

>>166960962
annex oman

>>166961025
the provinces in eu4 are so big. they're like a ck2 duchy each.

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>>166961025
>>166961142
In his crusade against the French to reclaim Armagnac, our gracious King makes a crucial promise, to lead the newly raised 3rd army himself. May God bless him and may the godless French be struck down like the savages they are!

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>>166960962
This is an event I don't understand. If I accept, I get better relations with Belgium, whose not a great power. If I decline, I get minus relations with Krakow, whose not a great power. Why does the event mention great powers if the nations aren't great powers, and why isn't it the same nation?

So Belgium sent me a military mission, and are OK with me saying no, but Krakow of all nations would be pissed?

>>166961034
They're in UK's sphere, and as far as I know start out as friendly with the UK, meaning I can't touch them.

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I still have good relations with them somehow
nice

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>>166961406
There we go! Despite 90% of my population being staunchly against it, we're now western.

>>166958707
Not really. If a newbie decides to ignore the huge clue (mission to conquer Novgorod) and decides to attack the hordes they will grab a bunch of muzzie land, tanking their religious unity and causing all sorts of problems, when instead they should go after one of the Russian minors and then jump on Novgorod asap, following the chain of "conquer Novgorod/Kazan/Western Siberia/etc" missions.

A new player might totally ignore religious ideas too, losing deus vult for something the player thinks "fits" Russia, like expansion or exploration, despite the fact Russia only started colonising in the 1600s.

Not exactly fool proof imo, not like how the Ottomans are. Their insane snowballing potential means even a bloody nose won't stop them for long.

For a truly disgusting experience I modded my game to allow the harem government of the Ottos to work with the coptic religion, allowing me to play Coptomans with the harem mechanics. Sure it's OP but sometimes you want to steamroll everyone, plus the Ottos have the best cultural union in the game imo due to location+sheer size.

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>>166961631
>instantly jump to secondary power
OK then.

>>166961406
Waste infamy in Warsangli if you have nowhere else to spend on.

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1860 isn't bad I guess

what's the general strategy from here?

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>78k

LOL

Is this game serious

>>166961815
>40 brigades
You can blob in India already.

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>>166961785
>Everyone extremely against western ideas and super reactionary
>Become western
>Cabinet is now super liberal
What should I go for?

>>166961801
They're allied with Ethiopia who has a really strong military, like #16 or #17 in the world. I'm probably going to start establishing protectorates along the east african coast.

I'm also considering if I have time to get colonization technologies before the scramble starts. Any differences between vanilla scramble and HPM scramble?

>>166959716
England has a lot of OP missions, so make sure you check on the mission window quite often when you don't have one chosen; things like "claim throne of france" might show up. Also, check your missions before you set rivals - setting rivals influences what missions show up.

England is especially fun now with the new Maine event. I suggest you build up your forces, hope to god you either: get an heir to prevent the war of the roses (civil war) or don't get an heir so when the war of the roses starts, you can quickly get a new ruler, since you start with the shittiest ruler possible: 0/0/0. France will easily out-tech you if you keep him around, so getting rid of him is a high priority imo.

Boats are you biggest asset, and being able to quickly move troops around from one end of France to another can win wars. Also, try to get a good ally or two early on to help fight against France. Burgundy, Castile, Aragon, and for a secondary either Savoy or Brittany are good to open yet another front.

Good luck, in no time you'll have those frenchies under a PU and you'll be nigh unstoppable, dominating english channel trade and be rolling in ducats.

>>166962227
Ive gotten Aragon as an ally, but they won't join my reconquest war. How do you get allies to join?

>>166962141
Child labour.
>I'm also considering if I have time to get colonization technologies before the scramble starts. Any differences between vanilla scramble and HPM scramble?
Don't think that's worth it and don't quite remember what vanilla colonization was like t bh

>>166962141
>Any differences between vanilla scramble and HPM scramble?
Yes, it's completely different. In HPM civilized countries get free CB on African uncivs (which are much more numerous than in vanilla, meaning that there is also much less colonizable land), a secondary power gets the Congo, Egypt gets puppeted by the ottos, and I think there are also some other provinces that get handed out to various countries by event.

>>166963058
So if I haven't played before I'm fucked? I don't know what events there are.

Also, what do you mean by "get the congo"? Odds are I'm going to be in a secondary power position when the scramble starts.

>>166959762
Muslims are by far one of the strongest religions in ck2. They have multiple benefits and comparatively few negatives.

Their succession makes it easy for you to handpick which heir you want, and 4 wives means you won't be lacking heirs either.

Decadence does suck and is their main drawback, but if you go MR you won't have to deal with that at all. Having 4 young wives means eventually you'll have a lot of decadence from your huge dynasty, so beware.

Muslims have two large benefits that the other religions don't: Iqta government starts off at taxing the nobles at a baseline of 10%, whereas Christians have a baseline of 0%. This means that if Christians want to get the same income from their noble vassals, they'll need to incur a -10 opinion malus (or was it -5?) by boosting their noble tax obligation to low, where the Iqta ruler gets it automatically.

Next is the jizya tax. Muslims, like Jews, will only convert provinces if they have high ai_zeal, which means if they are zealous basically. The earlier your start date, Muslims will hold more and more non-muslim land, and this gives them a hefty boost to income and has a slightly synergistic effect with the iqta bonus I talked about above.

There's also other smaller benefits, like doing the hajj. Sunni is the most popular branch but getting the caliphate can be hard, so going something like Ibadi can be fun.

Imo a culture that can raid with ships paired with muslims are really strong, especially something like norse that can launch a prepared invasion to conquer out a piece of non-muslim land to get jizya everywhere after converting to muslim via concubine.