/lidg/ ─ Let It Die General

first for no emo dipwads shitting up the thread

sorry I was such a biatch earlier

Yeah, there's no bathroom here.

Yeah yeah speak your words

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>>166613445
>>166613340
>>166613445
i want to snoogle Detox!

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>>166613216
Hopefully by the end of the week we can remove the

>[AT THE MOMENT ALL "KILL EVERYTHING" QUESTS ARE BUGGED]

if they don't fuck it up.

>>166613658
sup j-head

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>>166613653

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Did that dev stream already happen?
Did anything meaningful come out of it or did they just dick around for a while and then give everyone a single Death Metal

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Maybe I'll get more than "get fucked" responses this time with this webm, but seriously, how the hell do I just go from standing up to lying into the ground?

>>166613809
turns out 1* buzzsaw deals 15x durability damage to jackals. who knew

What suda/grasshopper game should I play next?
I've played Killer7 and ive watched a let's play for both nmh1 and 2 im so sorry but i didn't really have a way to play them so i caved and watched someone else

i wish i could wipe my memory and play them blind

>>166613809
They didn't really say anything worth while. They just did a 10 Death Metal raffle, said they'd change the level 1 starting banks cap from 40k to 50k, and mentioned TDM fixes without saying anything beyond that.

>>166613914
lol get recked faggot

>>166613914
cause he head butted you so hard

>>166613914
I think this is a known bug, actually. It looks like you dropped him to his stagger threshold while he was doing his charge animation, then it got confused and dropped you out in the middle of it.

>>166613914
Also this resulted in having receiving no damage every time he does that, even after the 10 minutes of guardshrooms wore off. Apparently his lower body doesn't have hitboxes?

>>166613914
to me that looks like bad netcode but the game is played clientside so probably not.

i mean its definitely a matter of the lying-down animation being "stored" and then compensated to later, but the reason could be many different things

basically that is a bug

>>166613914
the game has bugs

>>166613948
uh killer is dead i guess

it wont scratch a let-it-die itch at all beyond the general aesthetic feel though

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>>166613948
Let it Die.
But for real, if you have the console for it, Shadow of the Damned and Lollipop Chainsaw are alright. Killer is Dead is nice too.

When I think back on those 3 games though, I see a lot of potential not being used.

>>166613726
it's G-Head, dweeb!

>>166614000
>>166614007
I am completely analpained
I had to quit out of the game and lose my fighter. After that, I went up with my other person and same thing happened to me, except this time Taro was far away and his rockets blew me up from the ground.

>>166614041
It didn't hit his stagger threshold, he continued to do that move at the very end over and over until I eventually had to quit. Even waited until the guardshrooms wore off.

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So how many fish shroom do you guys generally use per jackal?

>>166614225
and yet that is not AT ALL how armor and weapon rating conventions work

The fuck is up with the aggro ranges in this game, some screamers see me through walls others let me walk up to them from the side, some hater screamer fests I can walk in on others they are much less receptive to onlookers.

>milk black only farmable from a trap room
>there's like 6 other drops that can spawn in the trap room
post stupid fucking decisions

>>166614392
I only need one but if you don't think you can do enough damage to a jackal, use 2 per.

>>166614423
I stand by what I said.

How's tdm at g4? A little scared of ranking up cause I'm actually doing alright with raiding bases naked (deleted a few g3s to drop down a few ranks as most invaders get destroyed at my third defender).

>>166614674
I'm running into tons of bases with cleaver saber defenders so be careful

>>166614296
but your name starts with a j

>>166614524
what decal do you use?

>>166614516
The bigger problem is that half of the late game armor and weapons take ~7 MILK Blacks each in order to get them to the point where you can start using reds

>>166613914
Can't you see it?
The ground are grabbing your arms

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>>166615149
>~7 MILK Blacks

>mfw stuck to candol wolf
>mfw started getting lots of milk blacks at 31+

>>166615149
>so many cool looking armors in the 20s and 30s
>almost all of them need like 13 BLACKED milks each

FUCK this game, i just want to look cool

>>166614674
It's the rank where people start using shit like Cleaver/Death Burner Iron defenders, which mean you can be absolutely fucked if you aren't completely over prepared
It's the kind of thing where I'd honestly say to be wary until you get to 31+ and can trivialize any defense with guardshrooms and evershrooms

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>Kill f36 Goto
>Continue climbing the tower
>Holy shit, straight to f40 boss
>Escalator to f40, yeeeeeeah
>GATEBLOCKED

Goddamn it, guess I gotta kill Jinny dear.

>Game's face when I thought I could skip Jinny

>>166615373
Why the fuck can't we climb up to her in 38, that's so retarded. I'm honestly pissed every fucking time.

>>166615373
Enjoy 4-5 floors of ease, abuse that mushroom shit now so you can beat Taro and get the treasure hunter decal for later.

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>>166615023
You'll uhh... probably have a hard time trying to get this set up for yourself.

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>>166616464
Those decals

What the fuck... how many times you pull? i've got multiple of the shittiest fucking decals and i only have 1 of those. the double handed decal is the only one i have atm and fuck me do i want serial killer.

>>166616464
It sucks, I have like four premium raging bulls, but no regular bulls and sure as shit no serial killer.

And my last like 5 stews have all been stat discounts

>>166616898
I've bought too many stews to keep count and most of the money came out of dev raids and when decal duping was a thing and it was easy to dupe then sell said decals. Guess I lucked out for Serial Killer cause it's the only 4 star I have.

>Some fag from Cali kept farming me from the revenge list just so he could capture my defenders.

You niggers got anything better to do?

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163 hours in this fucking game and I still haven't found the BP for the Trucker Apron or the Steel Soldier Apron
God damn it

>>166619176
you sound hurt, calm down by grinding for those randoms

>>166613914
that's what you get for equipping the cock sucker decal, remember?

>>166619201
I've been in the first 11 floors literally hundreds of times and I don't have a single texas farmer blueprint.

>>166613914
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
this faggot is still flopping around the floor like a fish on 40f

>>166616464
The autism levels are off the charts with this one.

>>166619176
#NOTALLCALIFORNIANS

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>>166619201
>>166619582
I got both Texas Farmer and Trucker Sets, but I can't for the life of me find Steel Soldier or Doctor Dill blueprints, and buying them from Gyaku-Funsha is so fucking expensive

I got a new phone. If you senpais could post uncle death wall papers I'd appreciate it

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>>166620075

>>166620051
Duh I have the whole Dr.Drill set and the entirety of Steel Soldier except for the helm, I wish it was possible to trade blueprints.

>>166620051
Seriously
It's fucking insane that it costs 2.2 times as much to buy the blueprint for 1* armor than it does to buy a mushroom stew or a high level metal

>>166620225
get good faggot. i can make 100k on like a 30 minute material run through the 20s.

>>166620225
>>166620389

or just fucking go to 2f wanoki, then go up and down the escalator farming the hater on 3f kimo-magome theres literally nothing else there.

less than 15% hp, 4 bull decals + samurai, eat a guard shroom and one shot his ass. you can kill him probably 3 times per guard shroom, thats 15k easily in like 40 seconds.

faggots

>>166620581
news break: genius anon introduces massive artificial inflation into let it die economy.

however, no one fucking cares because they spend all their KC instead of keeping it in their bank like dipshits

>>166620581
>>166620694
>>166620225

even easier: depending on the layout the 1f hater can be right next to an escalator up to 2f imokawa-cho. use the same decals and escalator trick but crush the frog next to him for tear gas. gas him, 1 shot, rinse, repeat. i just generated 50k in about 3 mins..

>>166620389
get cali shiiter, I can make 400k+ in 30min without leaving waiting room

>>166620581
> thats 15k easily in like 40 seconds

not with those loading times

>>166620974
this is the only correct answer

>>166620164
Thanks

>>166620974
this mathematically does not compute. it takes 23 seconds to reach the first bank where as it takes me 4 to reach the hater.

the loading times on TDM are much longer.

>>166621005
125mps down 25up shitter

>>166621369
>proud of 15k in 3 minutes

ok shitter

>>166621283
You know diamond gets 10k bonus and dev raids hold approximately 30k? So 40k, if you arent shit you can complete in under 2 min

at last, in less than 2 hours, I'll have my 3*+4 Buzzsaw Mashers!

I can't imagine the grind for the jackal gear, grinding for the relatively few Oxygen-free Copper for my mashers was awful.

>>166621487
>>166621568
i said 15k in less then 1 minute, more like 40-45 seconds. plus you aren't having to fight all the devs, plus loading time on TDM is way longer than an escalator and you know it.

>anons butthurt they didn't think of it first

>>166621672
>>anons butthurt they didn't think of it first

"Farm the same hater" is probably mentioned on the ign wiki for christs sake.

>>166621672
too bad loading screens make your claims untrue, sry not sry m8

feel free to post a video though of you can make more cash than dev raids

>>166621672
I like how you only account loading for TDM but you magically go up and down an escalator 5 times in 40 seconds
>Anon thinks hes a special snowflake

>>166621718
Seriously its everyone in the games first thought when they go to a shop and are short on cash, go up and down and farm hater till you can buy what you want.

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>>166620225
>Anons think this is an issue of money and not just how bullshit it is
By the time someone has that enough money, they are only getting that blueprint to complete a set, not to use

So today I got giant killer and serial killer from soups, tossed em on to see dmg. Giant killer x2 serial killer x2 barbarian x2 on my attacker 200 str 180 dex.
>Eat sting
>throw fish
>35k crit 35k crit 35k crit
well then, that was alot nicer than 20k crits with x2 superhero

>>166621953
TDM loading is noticeable longer than escalators. it's waaay longer to load, and has to load twice. then you have to clear vs 1 dev hater. also how many mushrooms are you using to clear the raid that fast? the farm i mentioned requires nothing, there's already frogs there to use as tear gas and you can one shot the hater.

going into a raid restores your HP to full so you cant use the 4 x bull decals to one shot the haters.

go ahead and be a faggot, the dev raids are getting nerfed anyway.

>>166622330
She's got a big ol' neck

>>166622859
nice meltdown

>>166623334
>u mad xd

>>166622859
it currently takes zero shrooms due to the sim exploit. even without it it would only take 1 evershroom plus the lowest nailgun/crossbow you have developed for 40k kc/sp

youre magically forgetting you also need to load twice just to kill 1 hater, and since youre wasting time gathering a frogshroom you arent getting close to the amount you claimed

stay salty niga

>>166623447
lol get good

>>166622859
Let me get this straight, this guy uses the escalator 5 times, kills 3 frogs, picks up said frogs shroom, throws shroom and 1 shots 3 haters all in 40 seconds. What a fucking god!
>Thinks you cant 1 shot dev haters without bulls x4

>>166623560
so you just waste a fuck ton of time stack shrooms 2 at a time in the sim first?

seems like a really niggerish way to do it, and becoming harder to believe dev raid is cleared in 2 mins counting loading times. i'm guessing its more like 3.5 or 4, especially if youre going to blackskin it up in the sim first.

>>166623696
>>166623859
you cali fags, what ever will you do when the dev raids are nerfed.

>>166623859
>i'm guessing its more like 3.5 or 4

it is around there with loading times, but it certainly does make more money than your poverty method

>>166623859
We already know you're from reddit, throwing racial epithets into the middle of your meltdown isn't fooling anyone.

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>>166623939
nothing because we already got rich from doing them

>>166623859
so wheres that video of your magical farming method?

>>166623939
already have everything lol
anything new they add i'm more than prepared for

>>166623859
you dont even need to use turtle shrooms, use a poison claw with a heavy hitter like katana or pork chopper is ez dev raid money

>>166623987
alright and how much time is added by shrooming in the sim first? another minute or two?

Really wish someone was ballsy enough to upload pics of all the armors maxed.

>>166623859
>mentions loading times for dev raids
>doesnt mention loading times for killing 1 measly hater

lmao

where to get aluminum alloy 7075??

>>166613710
We always could. There's numerous different bugged quests, OP's sentence is stupid.

>>166624816
anyone??

>>166624816
jindie's room

>>166628154
yeee

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So is this a good look or no? Don't wanna dive into february content without proper fashion.

>>166629319
i think this is a repost, 4chan is being laggy as fuck right now

>>166629319
that looks terrible

she looks fat in all that

>>166629319
I don't like the pants.

>>166629319
>Praise the Sun, Gov'ner. My steel blade has been toppled about 100 folds, it has.

>>166629615
okay i laughed

how many PA players are there in this game, 7?

TDM you fucking thing. You show the FIGHT tab now but you only show SPAIN? NOW? For a califag?

WHY

does goto-9 f11 have transparagus please

>>166629987
just keep refreshing till you get a fight target, its the only way senpai

>>166630360
a few wan spawn on that floor, yeah
the are with the crabs are where i've seen it primarily

>>166630360
its rare your best bet its to send out expedtions for cloak shrooms

>>166630649
can*
area*

guess it's time for bed

Senpai, I gotta find some rosewood ASAP, what floor is good right now?
>>166630360
The little sewer area with the crabs has probably the most common transparagus spawn I've found in the game

>>166630750
best bet is to just do akami-kawabe runs for the black metal chest

kawabe has so many generic spawns that you should find 1-2 rosewood on average per run

if you go to a wood specific floor you gonna find 2 mdf and get mad

>>166630750
>>166630794
hope you get some milk black my dude, that shit is like water in the desert

>>166630750
Agasu has a lot
pretty easy floor layout too

alright this game is dead af what do you guys recommend i should play? is warframe worth..

>>166631685
if you disliked the f2p elements of this, warframe is about 2000x worse. play a real game

Guys what floor has a possible spawn for a golden sassori? I want to eat 20 normal sting in the simulation then eat the golden,it should give the bonus of the golden and the timer of each one

>>166631685
If you play warframe make sure you play on PC. PS4 end game is dead as fuck and you can't transfer to PC

>>166631685
>play a real game
shit i might just have to..

>>166631685
>>166631756
>>166631932
its mostly a single player game, not sure how it can be dead

>>166631685
well if you like grinding you'll love it

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So expedition from F21-30 will have a chance to get silver shrooms right? I need to buy raging bull.

>>166632283
best bet is jackson's room

if you pick 21-30, pick a side floor, silver shrooms are way more common there

>>166615373
Thought after I reached Floor 37, I just had an easy 37-38-39-40 climb and planned accordingly. Then I had to take one of those zigzag routes like in Jackson's area. Not pleasant. Rapier guys every other mob.

What if the next floors are based of Suda's other games?

I mean, the "final boss" reminded me very much of enemies in Killer is Dead

>>166629319
Last Queen of Scotland.jpg

>>166631751
PLZ GUYS IT'S IMPORTANT

>>166633080
The plot of the game is basically Killer Is Dead.

>>166630794
>>166631107
>>166631450
Thanks dudes, I got some rosewood doing chest runs. No milk black though, RIP

>>166633457
It is. The way you do finishers on boss only needs that filter and a voice clip of "Killer is Dead"

What if UD is Mondo Zappa?

>Pour millions into mushroom stew
>Still no premium Giant Killer

WHERE IS IT, YOU MUSHROOM FUCKING BITCH?

>>166633941
She has multiple pots, filled with soup and decals. I think even she doesn't know where what is, especially with how all pots move

>>166634068
she has to have run out of Electro Sheep stew by now, but nope, she keeps giving me serving after serving of GODDAMN ELECTRO SHEEP FUCK YOU THERE'S ALMOST ZERO SITUATIONS IN WHICH THIS DECAL WOULD EVER BE USEFUL FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>166634332
i'd like to imagine it helps the defenders i don't use break out of rapier stunlock, except basically no players can do the stunlock themselves anyway.

>>166634380
The meanest thing is to throw poison eaters onto your Defenders and that decal that makes you harder to get groggied... and fire fighter.

Even if you don't stop them, they have to use more mushrooms to win

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>Meijin tells me something I didn't know for once

>>166634504
If you taunt a miniboss during fight or just before the loot drops, you actually ensure you get a metal from them

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>>166634546

>>166634546
okay anon, my dad works at nintendo too

So so do we know yet what happens if you have all perfects on the stamp thing?

So guys there is a possible floor where i can find a spawn for a golden scorpion?

>>166635013
ive found one running daida -> nora -> chitose-mei but i forget exactly which one of the floors it was on

it was right before the alley area with a flamethrower trap on top of a chest, near a bunch of tubers

cbf to go find the exact spot again, its usually a regular scorpion too

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>COEN 34

>>166613727
Fucking Unreal engine is the cancer of this industry.

>capture chance is like 3 or 4% from fight stats
>trophy wants you to capture ONE HUNDRED
nigga are you sub-zerious

>>166635207
Right before like IN the area with the chest and flamethrower (chitose-mei) or the area before (nora)?

>>166637813
>>166637813
Just do what this one faggot was doing to me earlier. Farm your revenge list for anyone that has shitter defenders and kill them over and over until you capture them all.

>>166638225
chitose-mei, in that tile w/ the flamethrower+chest

but i just went back to check and there was a pillbug where i was sure i'd always seen a scorpion. you can see it from the top of that one storage shed you can actually climb on (w/ the little ledge that lets you jump on the other useless building)

so its possible it was that tile on a different map? idk, im sorry, i only found it once

99% sure it was right there, though

>>166638818
I found a pillbug the first time (and a milk green in the gold chest that i needed for the sniper) and a rat the second time

I'll do more test if it rolls a scorpion

>>166634958
Yes you unlock F41-50.

>>166638546
How do you farm the revenge list? Unless they have a captive, I usually raid them once and they're gone from the list...

Mainteinance tomorrow guys

>minor UI/menu adjustment
Finally the sorting thing
>TDM adjustment
Bye bye simulation shroom timer
>fixed various quest issues
Finally
-various bug fixes

>>166636901
>doesnt have a spare weapon or two for the occasion

>>166639924
Other Anon here. Can someone tell us how to farm the revenge list? I have a golden Spaniard to farm

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is PSN down or something or is it just PSN NA

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>>166645213
it's just you

>exploit and dev raids gone tomorrow
>better grind a lot today :^)
>PSN maintenance for the whole day cant play
>:'^)

>>166645574

I it's going to be down for the entire day?
Well fuck. There goes my snail farming. I just unlocked tier 5 fighters, FUCK.

>>166645732
Is supposed to be 1 hour but the scheduled maintenance was supposed to be for the 31. I dont know whats wrong today.

>>166645732
thankfully its pretty easy grinding out Rank 5s

since they're already AS STRONG as rank 4s at level one, all you need is some brain shrooms or ever shrooms and your good to go

>>166613948
Try The Silver Case

>still cant play

das it mayne I am done for

>>166635207
You're describing Chitose-Mei

>>166619669
>no muramasa +4
>no superalloys
>off the charts

>>166647515
>muramasa +4
I thought the damage drop off was too high?

I'm not gonna grind it either way because I have a good feeling we'll get the super rare mats in the next set of floors

PC port when?

>>166633457
Same director.

>>166647720
muramasa isn't a grind, the iron is from the shop

>>166647885
If we are lucky, never.

isn't a big grind*

How much health do jackals have?

>>166648482
Pretty sure it's 100000 even.

>>166648745
Good. I dont want to overdo it and waste mushrooms. I see people chug them with rage attacks doing over 200,000k and I am like, is that really necessary?

>>166648819
muramasa+4 rage move, stingshroom, oakshroom with optimal decals on skillmaster one shots without crits

>>166643426
>thinking sorting is getting fixed
>thinking they've had the time to fix the simulation exploit
the tdm fix is probably the fight bug that makes you lose even when youve clearly won

the simulation won't be fixed for at least a month if at all, as it means adding an exception to mushroom timers which have probably been hard coded and are fuck crazy to change

the only short term solution i forsee is a message telling players not to do it and eventually punishing people who do it by killing their characters like in tdm (remove items/decals aka mushrooms)

living on the edge x 8
superhero x 9
bull x 11
raging bull x 6
serial killer x 1
payback x 1
shock absorber x 7
super shock absorber x 1
sprinter x 7
marathon runner x 2
gymnast x 6
olympic gymnast x 6
tank x 5
dumbbell x 10
emerald x 8
silver heart x 12
wolf x 8
ninja x 12
master ninja x 2
judge gavel x 3
one shot one kill x 2
barbarian x 3
dual wielding master x 3
master builder x 9
drill sergeant x 10
wizard x 7
medalist x 8
samurai x 9
slugger x 4
firestarter x 5
electrifer x 8
hornet x 12
treasure hunter x 5
indomitable spirit x 2
mosquito x 9
bloodsucker x 1
hide & seek x 3
giant killer x 1
four leaf clover x 6
five leaf clover x 1
firefighter x 6
electrosheep x 9
poison eater x 8
strength discount x 9
dexterity discount x 8
vitality discount x 11
health discount x 8
stamina discount x 14
luck discount x 7
superalloy x 11
diy enthusiast x 7
military enthusiast x 7
fantasy enthusiast x 12
sports enthusiast x 8
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>What it took for me to get serial killer

>>166650402
None of the judges or payback was from event. I was farming bosses during event cause fuck judges and payback

>>166650402
>mfw serial killer on first 4star

And PSN is back. Time to grind.

>>166650627
ihy

>>166650402
took me 2.2 mil, lucky you

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>play for honor beta
>everything is so slow, 30 fps and dipping
>go back to Let it die
>FUN

I would gladly trade my gold heart for serial killer or super tank

>>166654201
I have not draw a single event decal yet.

>>166634431
It only takes 1 evershroom to win, even with that setup.

>Internet shits the bed for a few seconds right after i talk to tetsuo
>game goes on an infinite loading
>restart game
>all my cloakshrooms are gone as if i did quit in the tower
Well, fuck this clunky ass game. I'll wait for a new gamebreaking glitch to touch it ever again.

>>166657403
But anon they are fixing every bug and glitch tomorrow.

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>>166650402
>>166650568
>fuck judges and payback
Still waiting for some mega-autist to do a payback setup where they hit the damage cap by taking damage and snail-healing for 24 straight hours.

So, no targets for your current country war pretty much means "Fuck you, it's your own fault all of you joined CA", correct?

I'm fairly new to the game. What's this simulation mushroom exploit I keep hearing about?

>>166658890
buffs persist through loading screens, etc
simulation mode resets all your durability, exp, abp, consumables, etc once you leave it

>>166658890
>new to the the game
It's getting patched tomorrow but basically you can use mushrooms infinitely by using them in the defense simulation

https://youtu.be/rPcUkFKC5VY
Fuck me, well you have a chance of losing all your best decals everyone. Good luck on getting the Japs to fix their shit. Reset didn't help either.

>>166657998
Tough luck pal I got myself 5 PA raids ez pz

>>166659076
>>166659159
So, basically, you go into the simulation, eat a bunch of mushrooms, and you get to keep the buffs and the mushrooms when you leave it?

>>166657998
Yup, just refresh until you get one.

>>166659451
Yeah

>>166659451
Yeah but the thing is it's getting patched tomorrow lol
Like there's no use for it anymore unless you want to use it right now

So where the fuck is the highest spawn of UltraPure Iron? Or is the spawn so miniscule and the grind that real?

>>166659301
How did this happen?

>>166659557
>>166659610
Ok. Guess I'm late to the party, then. Gonna have to cheese it some other way.

>>166657907
So what I want to do is, payback + master ninja x 2 + ninja x 2 + giant killer x 2 + poison eater + serial killer + legendary superhero
>Go to a level with snails on the wall
>make hater break weapon
>let hater beat me for hours
>heal with snails when needed
>let snails kill hater
>kill 5 beasts for serial killer
>body slam 1 shot kill a jackal
>most legendary gif in lid ever

>>166659670
anywhere on 31+, but you're better off doing hourly shop runs

>>166659684
I was just switching decals to raid with on an alt account and it just decided to not count those decals when it did the server sync thing and they disappeares for the ones I put. If you check the vid, you see I start with 4 superheros and after the glitch, it goes to 3. Resetting the game, rebooting, anything didn't work. Just gone for heavy tank and that 1 superhero.

>>166633941
>One of my first pulls was GK
>can't pull SK for the life of me

Kinda want premium Treasure Hunter as well.

>>166660026
>kill 5 beasts for serial killer

That would ruin your paypack, since killing animals counts as doing damage

>>166660040
Oh ok. Where are the shop floors (number and name?) and how much is it?

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>>166660026
>tfw all this shit does barely 10k damage probably

>>166613216
How is this game? Im getting myself a PS4 next week and this game does look pretty fun to play.

>>166660518
39 haratsuka and 33 uchinobu, it's 10k

>>166659610
But you could still use it to beat the game right now, right?

>>166657907
I told you bro, your little scenario wont happen

how's the executioners ride (5 star Motor Psycho)? any unique abilities besides breaking quicker and dealing less damage than +4?

>>166661352
Honestly the game is beatable as it is, with all the guardshrooms and hobo gear but if you're that much of a scrub go ahead

>sending rapier hunters

who hurt you

>level up a luck character
>get to deal with a 50 naked with a hammer that insta kill me

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>>166661742

>>166661716
Just tried it out, I didn't realize it just lets you keep the mushrooms instead, so not much of an issue since I already get so many guardshooms from expeditions

what team do i pick? why should i go cali instead of my nation?

>>166661572
I'm going to make it regardless but I would like a heads up

>>166661927
Fight Coen to level up, scrub

>>166660215
>>166660532
Thanks for ruining my dream guys

>>166664751
Your fault for being a tard and not thinking it out properly

>>166662451
Because Cali probably outnumbers your nation 1000 to 1, and always wins the fights. There's no practical reason not to go Cali.

>>166664904
I mean, all I really have to do is poison eater payback for a long time let poison kill hater and do it. I just wanted to make it more complicated for shits and giggles

>>166660040
>but you're better off doing hourly shop runs
How is that done? Visit the shop in one place, wait an hour, visit the shop again in his second spot? Can you tell when this happens exactly? Do you need to go to the lobby/restart the game for this?

>>166665527
You need to go to the lobby then go to his second spot 1 hour after you visited him

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>>166647885

>>166665179
Actually SK wouldve made this alot simpler.

>>166652942
This.

>got FF XV and got bored of it
>got The Last Guardian and got bored of it
>somehow a F2P title is more fun than all those

>>166666202
Ok I thought about it, simplest way. Take 20 lifeshrooms and a defender with tank x 2 and poison eater. A death burner to break haters armor. Break armor of hater then have him use up your 20 lifeshrooms. Let poison kill hater. Boom 1 shot body slam

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>>166666395
exactly, at least LiD has that sort've tense atmosphere that I dont really get in many other games

>>166660569
I'm a big fan personally.
It's free so you can just try it and delete it if you don't like it.

>>166666976
You can't ever get comfortable in LiD, 'cause your shit's always breaking and there's a constant possibility of getting bamboozled by some bullshit that kills you instantly.

>>166667348
I disagree, after 200+ hours I have no tension in this game. I miss the tension and cant wait to climb again. The climb was the best part it was so tense, scared to go around a corner cause you are naked, hear a hater and its been 2 floors since you found an elevator. But with 4k armor and shroom build up from expedition the tension has left me and now its just gind

>>166659670
I forget what it's called, but there's a room on floor 40 that you can get up to by going through Nitanda into the side rooms. It spawns only iron, so you have the best chance of finding ultra-pure steel there.

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>hit the 31+ floor wall
>begin grinding out of paranoia
>my body is ready
>load up for war on shrooms and death burners
>speedrun through levels to U-10 and COEN
>hit floor 35, begin marathon run back to elevator

My long personal nightmare is over. Tier 5 unlocked and the top feels so close.
I look forward to the haters becoming even more absurd.

>>166668105
You are gonna be legend! Keep it up senpai!

>>166667915
Perhaps there could be NG+, or an option to reset your progress with rewards for doing so.

>>166668105
The haters are goddamn nonsense after that point. At some point they all reach 5* gear, and the only good way of killing them is by breaking armor.

>>166668641
or using brainshrooms which have been available since floor 21+

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>>166668314
Y-you too!

>>166668701
>just use brainshrooms

Yeah just use that finite resource every time you want to farm gold/farm bosses/farm mats.

I constantly send out a fridge full of maxed out 5 star lucky stars on expeditions btw. Brainshrooms are a privilege, not a right

>>166669063
sounds like youre sending them to the wrong placed buddy

>>166669253

Sounds like you haven't played the game long enough

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>>166667348
all of a sudden this guy comes out and tells you to CHOKE ON IT with two rapiers

>>166661572
>>166664189
Nobody?

>>166670239
Most people dont go that high because the stat requirement to hold it. Any damage increase is gonna be a lot less than if you used a striker/shooter/attacker unless you plan on using a stamina decal

>>166670024
sry i have a collector full of brainshrooms in the fridge

be less bad

>>166670614
well the initial Executioner's Ride requires less stamina (145) then the +4 Motor Psycho A but the stamina requirement doesn't bother me with the decal and with the supposed level cap limit removal coming in Feb, I'd say it's short sighted to not bother going higher, plus it's a noted bug for 5* durability and the developers are seeking to fix that too

If nobody knows that's fine

>>166671234
I meant 245 not 145
anyways I rolled a max stamina Striker so I'm not worried

>>166670735
Idk who is who in this conversation but anyone having problems with haters really does need to "get gud" you have fish fungus, frog fungus, brainshrooms, evershrooms, guardshrooms, iron breaks armor fast as fuck and blocks attacks. Farming bosses and dont want to waste time on a hater? Throw a fish fungus and run along. Need fish fungus? 3 on floor chitose-mei. Haciyanma and chitose mei also have a chance to spawn transparashroom

After COEN on 34, where does the path lead next?
Is it Jin Die or GOTO?
I figured it's both anyways but I'd like to know who to prepare for first.

>>166671554
shit even kiting a hater, then just giving them the slip works too, even better if they get hung up on screamers along the way

>>166669063
>farming gold
>in the tower

found the shitter

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>>166670218
>featuring Carlos from Zero Escape Series

>>166629319
nice, i like it

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>When you are finally done farming red WE

Thank fuck now...I need MILK blacks

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>>166671554
>transparashroom

>>166673735
rip my dude, go fucking ham and get all those gold chests in a single run

>>166672004
Goto

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>go to okusa
>hundreds of faggots send hunters with rapiers and pitching machines
I wish there was a way to kidnap hunters.

Is there any way to listen to the floor OST's online?

>We will also update our Patch Notes page with more details at a later date.

>later date
>patch is literally tomorrow

>>166634958
You probably get 1 (one (1)) death metal.

>>166674748
lots of people drop patch notes when they drop patches

like almost everyone

>>166675216
people have guessed its death/'s suit, but id rather have a glasses blueprint, and every time you buy it its a random pair of glasses, like the ones he swaps between

>>166674382
I feel bad whenever my hunters seem to land a kill on a target. I send them in with only fists, but they can pick up nearby weapons.
I hope my fist only hunters make my fellow senpais climb easier.
Fuck the tryhards who send out decked hunters.

>>166674382
just dont go to okusa

everyone telling you to go there isn't actually going themselves, they just want someone to slam with expeditions

>>166677864
Every fag that sends a geared hunter is either a hue or a eurofag.

Where's the stamp for floor 38? It doesn't show up on the google doc.

>>166677864
I died to a naked level 1 fist hunter once
>Be me leveling jackal sword mastery
>Start going towards Heimo-Jima
>See a naked level 1 hunter
>Throw a brainshroom
>Hit myself not the hunter
>Watch as it fists me to 200 health breaking my armor painfully slowly
>Get goretasticed
Now I know who to blame. I blame you anon! I dont like to take responsibilty for my own actions so its your fault

>>166678429
Couldn't have been me
I don't think I've ever sent my hunters to Heimo-Jima, not recently anyway

>>166673030
My internet sucks. I would rather not finish a raid just to suffer with goddamn DNS errors until I lose all of my shit for no reason.

>>166671554
Haters aren't actually a problem, brainshrooms are just faster

>>166678429
Le >"be me"
You have to go back

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ZdKcVFApY&t=3s

So I completely destroyed a whole base in a raid, and the game counted it as a failure. I also lost all my equipment, but not the fighter. These patches can't come soon enough.

>>166661448
That's actually not me, but I'm glad you've managed to correct your retarded post from "can't" to the much more likely "won't". Hope it feels good, champ.

>>166680514
you seem hurt to be responding to something that insignificant

>>166680492
shit dude, that sucks

>>166681579
I just remembered the phrase 'little scenario' for some reason when I originally brought up the mechanics of Payback feasibly allowing you to oneshot a Jackal with an unarmed punch if you were willing to spend just... fucking forever taking fall damage and healing with poison or something.

Unfortunately it's hard to really calculate how ridiculously long you'd have to spend doing that as nobody really has a good model on how defense interacts with damage yet. I took some numbers down at one point but they were against Mk-1 scratch tubers so the difference between armor and no-armor and vit and no-vit values probably wasn't big enough to make a good guess at how they all interact. Also hard to get accurate numbers over multiple hits because your armor degrades with quantity of hits rather than size, so even testing in low damage environments still degrades your armor.

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>Raid a Pennsylvanian for a fight
>Defeat all the defenders and take out banks with around a minute left
>Screen fades to black
>FAILED 0%
>Lose all my stuff and can't get anymore fight points
Glad to be a beta tester

>>166682141
so those are literally trigger words for you? got it

>>166682463
reposttttt

>>166682592
Sure man if you want me to show up just say the magic words.

Unfortunately I think I've kinda run out of steam with Let it Die for now, so chart updates are gonna have to wait till an update probably. I was kinda hoping that they'd at least give a date yesterday, but no such luck so I'm just gonna do other stuff.

At this point I kind of feel like the update will be designed to match when they think Japanese players will reach 40, like late March or something. Hopefully whenever that happens I'll actually hear about it and it'll reignite my autism.

>>166682141
>>166682957
doesnt payback cap at 20% or something?

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Expeditions give out R&D materials related to their floor, with a rare chance of bringing back boss/miniboss metals.

It's sort of weird that devmats aren't included in expedition rewards already.

>>166682957
ill be sure to remember that. you should also remember to save the smugness for when (if) you can prove that anon wrong. so far he seems to be right about it not happening

Im strugling so hard in floors 11-16.

Is playing with a collector a mistake?

>>166682957
rip

well, we'll miss you

godspeed anon

>>166683520
id be okay with this if it was just a low chance of the rare stuff like oxy free copper, or ultra pure, regular mats you can get fine just by collecting them

Hey /lidg/ new player here, just quit a long session after I beat Jin-Die and got introduced to the Jackals and I've got a few questions.

Is there a way to get unbreakable armour anywhere down the line? I'm using the ryback armour (swat set) almost all the time since it seems fairly affordable, and on that note, is it worth it to R&D it further? I've got the pieces on roughly 2-3 rank but I don't know if I should just save the materials for the eventual statistically better armor.

Also is there a way to store things more efficiently without buying a whole heap of death metal for the storage? Nothing seems to stack and mules would take up a lot of freezer space, also I have no clue how the online portion functions, what can I lose and what can I take from other players? Thanks guys

>>166684305
You should only be playing collector to gather resources, not climb the tower.

>>166684305
what's your equipment looking like?

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Best way to grind a bunch of KC in a hurry?

>>166683890
I can tell I'm being stupid by continuously replying but I feel the need to anyways for some reason.

Of course it won't happen. Originally I was just annoyed with his fucking retarded position of 'it can't happen' despite providing the very information proving that it very well could. The original question was just of the mechanics of it, not anything like 'I hope I can kill the Jackals with this!' as seems to be taken by you and him.

You legitimately make me regret spending time researching and sharing information and I damn near deleted the materials spreadsheet in the OP as a response, as stupid as that is.

>>166683185
From the conversation from the other day, apparently it does not. You just keep storing up 20% of the damage you take endlessly. Problem being it just goes away if you ever hit anything, and said damage still being subject to defense. So it's really way too small to ever be considered useful in normal use (especially given that getting hit in general is very bad), and even for special uses is way too slow to actually be a viable way of doing anything.

>>166684754
if you are really going to get offended that easily then just delete everything and move on while wiping your tears. people will figure things out without you

unless youre hellbent on actually attempting it then you have no reason to be this upset

>>166684478
So, should i just use it to gather garbage from 1-10 now?
>>166684515
DIY attack coat+ +2, specioal forces beret e +3, assault force pants, jungle machete E and kamas-a1 assault rifle +3. Everything takes so long to die tho.

>>166684996
Yeah I legit don't know why I'm mad at your continued insistence that I actually felt the need to try and kill a Jackal with a punch when it's clear you're just being a retard.

I don't even have the Payback decal, that's why I asked in the thread in the first place about the mechanics of it and use words like 'apparently'. there's actually a tab in the spreadsheet that shows every decal I have, I'm short a lot of them

As for stuff in the spreadsheet, yeah the useful stuff's already out there. Either in images that I've published, or other spreadsheets people have copied from my work.

>>166685402
you're mad because you are the retarded one here

>>166685527
>>166685402
both of you please stop

its really not that big a deal

>>166685762
i was just egging him on, it was a big deal to him

anyway, maintenence is in a few hours, correct?

>>166685824
fuck off retard, id rather you kill yourself, than chart anon deleting his shit because of fuckheads like you

>>166644623
It wasn't about the weapons, it was about him one-shotting me through my lifeshroom with a new attack that reaches behind him

>>166685191
Collector is fine if you're constantly doing expeditions and have tons of shrooms to bring along. The optimal collector playstyle is to hoover LITERALLY EVERYTHING and try to use as much of it as possible.

From personal experience, you're probably just gonna get your shit wrecked for a while until you learn enemy machete timings and/or get a better weapon yourself.

>>166685880
cheer up bucko, its not like he is the only source of information

>>166685993
guardshrooms exist

>>166685824
Yeah normally when I would write "you're just fucking with me" instead of "you're just being a retard." - like I said I don't know why I'm so fucking mad about this.

But you're a cool guy, fucking with people is a fine thing to do when they're being stupid about semantics.

>>166685880
Me even considering deleting it, or mentioning it in the first place was being a fuck-wit, don't worry about it, it's not going anywhere.

But I am probably not going to update it for quite a while, it's kinda hard to motivate myself to turn the game on, though that could be how terrible sending expeditions have gotten with ERR-0-002 spam, so maybe if they fix that I'll at least feel like doing something.

>>166670218
>tfw all your male characters are different numbered Carloses

>>166686112
go away, you fucking retard

>>166686118
I didn't have any then, but I do now. I'm gonna get my revengeance before maint, wish me luck.

>>166684475

Armour ranks up after 4+, so if it's something you like, stick with upgrading until you find something equal to it's power with 0 upgrades.

Also, stuff breaks. There are ways of reducing durability loss (decals, express passes), but stuff will break and you have to learn to deal with it.

On raids you get 10% of their kill coins and SPLithium. If your fighter dies, they lose all the stuff they were carrying, but you get the fighter back.
Have fun, senpai

Whats the best way to win money? constantly raid people with 5k coins?

>>166686539
dev raids

climb the tower senpai, and join cali

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>>166686485
Thanks, champ!

>>166686539
constantly raiding devs with 30k coins

>>166686291
pls, its not healthy to be upset over nothing. the charts are fine

>>166686627
>dev raids
What?

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>>166686827
CLIMB THE FUCKING TOWER SENPAI

>>166684736

Heimo-Jima's up atm. Follow the side path from F3 Tamata 'til you get there. Long hallway with shitloads of scratch tubers and a hater. You can grind that floor for about 7500 each time.

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>>166686167
I use different skins on all my slots, but I use him as my main attacker in the first slot.
>Didn't think I was going to like him in ZTD that much
>He ended up as my favorite character by far, since all the returning characters didn't act their personality at all for most of the game
ZTD was a trainwreck, but an enjoyable one.

>>166686864
Oh those guys are devs? There was always one of those invading me and instakilling my new dudes.

>>166686058
Not him, but I'm also playing as a Collector in the same floor range, so I'm interested in this. What's the recommended class for climbing, then? I have a Striker alt that I use for raids, but it has less HP and the limited inventory is a real problem. What's a good class for climbing?

guys before they patch the mushroom exploit, should i make any new chars and level them to max? i have a 127 striker and a 128 attacker right now, then i have a defender and another 123 striker.

the rest is 6 t5 collectors holding guard shrooms stingshrooms and cloak shrooms.

is it worth making a shooter, skill master, or lucky star before it's too late to easily max them?

>>166687458
>mushroom exploit
I thought that exp got reset when you did that so you could only use the exploit to extend mushroom buff-times for free?

>>166687672
If you eat a golden animal when the game fades to white after a defense sim, you keep the EXP and the animal

>>166687278
I can't say, personally I used only a Collector for climbing until 34 (which worked fine), and a Defender for bosses (which is shit, don't do it). Striker, Shooter, and Collector are are all fine.

In t5 stuff scales differently so I use mainly Striker and Attacker.

>>166687278
i cant imagine as climbing as anything BUT a collector unless you have an express pass. just pick up every item you find and use it until it breaks.

>>166687875
so is it worth making a shooter if i have an attacker? seems like attacker gets higher dex anyway, and i'm using striker for boss fights and raging bull build attacker for jackals.

never made a lucky star or skill master though? should i make some other classes while i can still use the golden animals... or am i fine with basically attacker and striker and defenders?

>>166688126
also express pass starts to increase rage gage build up as the days go by. after she starts sitting on the couch you leave elevator and get free 2 bars, and it increases much faster during fights.

i also believe it improves drop rates and boss metals as well as durability

>>166687968
Ok. I don't really have much trouble surviving with the Collector I use, so I could stick to that one for now. I was just wondering if maybe I was gimping myself.

>>166688126
Yeah, that's pretty much what I do. I go in with full armor, 3 useful weapons and a fireworks launcher for cooking and I use dropped weapons on weak enemies until they break and save my good weapons for haters and crowds. I can't really do that with my Striker because of the small inventory, which is why I don't like using it.

What about alts for expeditions? Do stats and inventory space matter for them?

Where have you guys had the best luck getting DOD green metal? I always try nokejiri but the fuckin chest never gives me DOD

>>166688883
buy it from the secret shop

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ya know, Invincible shrooms should have a bad side to it like Mushrooms considering how common it is, and how common it is

>devraids removed
>everyone back to okusa

>>166689314
fuck that shit you earn hella money just by doing runs on 31+

>>166689305
make it so you can't use any other mushrooms with it

explain it as being some sort of fatal chemical reaction or something

>>166688519
luck stat is all that matters, so level it up. lucky star has the highest luck cap if thats all you care about, but if you want to use the character for anything else then probably don't pick lucky star.

>>166688519
Luck increases quantity of expedition item results (technically, it gives a chance to duplicate an expedition result). Collectors have the second-highest luck and are what you want anyway for extra inventory space, so stick with that.

>>166684478
>166685191
I've used collector for the entire game, i tested out a Tier 4 striker when I unlocked it, but went right back to collector.

the bag space is just too good to get rid of

This faggot has been refreshing his waiting room every hour on the hour just so I can't rescue my dude.

The autism is fucking real.

>>166691654
pay the ransom like a good little slut

Maintenance is in 6 hours, do I save all my gold and hope they change stew rates or blow it all now? They are changing the name from mushroom stew to premium decals or some shit kinda hoping changing rates

>>166691892
Or just wait till maintenance and he will get kicked off and someone will rescue it

>>166691892
I ain't giving this faggot 181k.

>>166692149
other people can play during maintenence except the one guy holding your shitter fighter hostage? neat

>>166692493
logic isnt your forte is it

>>166692753
doesnt seem to be yours www