/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

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Do you think they'll call ultimate edition of Generations ~
MH GG?

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>>166548507
Ordered her today, don't know who I should get next, and if it should be a hunter or a monster.
Does anyone else collect MH apparel.

>>166548653
probably gen unite

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>>166548796
What does this expression mean?

>>166548837
It would be such a perfect callback that it's impossible that Capcom will think about it.

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>>166548796
You still use visable pixels, how cute :^)

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>>166548701
Arrives tomorrow.

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Grinding out Lagi, come join if you dare.

>>166549229
You will have to tell us what its like, im thinking of getting that or the lagi next along with a revlotech tigrex.

>>166549181
You still have to wear straight up Victoria's Secret to enjoy MonHun?

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>>166549723
Its immiture I know but fuck it, while its easy may as well enjoy it before i have to clown suit up later.
>You still have to wear straight up Victoria's Secret to enjoy MonHun?
Yes thats the soul reason for me playing monster hunter, i dont enjoy hunting or anything like that....

>>166550193
Would be sexier if she hunted for the mats instead of going to Wal-Mart.

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>>166550264
If you say so.

>>166550379
I do! Would compress to 400x240 just to play a game with real equips.

>>166550416
>i see one guys armor
>THIS GAME HAS SHIT ARMOR
Do you know how retarded your logic is? and you do know the mainline series have armor similar to this?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbZN6Fn3t68

>>166550614
That assumes this is my first time seeing shots of MHO's extensive line-up of bland clothing. It didn't take China long to get bored of the original aesthetic and start flooding the roster with wedding gowns and other ways to dress up your doll.

>>166550694
>cash shop items are what the armors are
clearly you dont know enough do you? all the craftable armors as the same as the mainline with the ablility to buy vanity items that you have seen to overlay over the proper armor if you choose to.
you just sound mad because for some reason you are unable to play MHO, its not as good as the mainline but its not that bad either.
stop being so autistic anon and try and have some fun in your life for once, you are starting to sound like doj.

>>166550807
Anon, you sound mad. As if I insulted your waifu.

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>>166550694
Come on m8 you're better than this

>>166550862
Now that's more like it. Just feed all the swimsuit crap to Jho and I think we've got a promising lineup of armor.

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>>166550892
Why not have both? More choices to the consumer

>>166550934
Plenty of other games for that generic shite.

>>166550847
Nah just a bit annoyed at your attitude anon, its fine to shit on somthign but its annoying when people like you are to ignorent to even get the facts right before they do.
Please shit on MHO man as much as you want but at least get it right, like the egg quests that you have to restard 10 times because they dont actualy spawn or the constant network dropouts that require you to exit and restart the game or the fact that you have to eventualy buy more box space.

>>166551021
I find MHO okay, I don't need to take a shit on it. Boy, you really went on a tangent there.

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>>166551003
So why not both again?

Striker or Aerial for SA?

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>>166548837
>MH Generations Unite
That sounds so fucking coll... I doubt Capcom would be this smart

>>166551072
Nah i enjoy MHO im level 91/hr9 atm and I respect if people want to shit on it, its just im sick of this general and this site as well just being children all the time and not using facts for the base of their argument.
Fuck these autists man

>>166551456
It's going to be okay, Anon. Just like it's okay for me to prefer real monster bitches, not these fake-ass Sports Illustrated models.

Is there ever going to ne a better them
https://youtu.be/6eK_2NDAWgs

>>166551592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5vGQCZakt8

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>>166551491
Prefrence is subjective so I dont care about that anon, people can like what they want I couldnt give a fuck as long as they are enjoying themself.
I'm just over being on this site al the time and seeing people try to pass their opinon like its a fact like the retard they are without even looking up the subject enought to know what they are talking about.

49-6026-7468-4166
Anything (MHGen)

>>166551491
>real monster bitches
Example?

>>166551592
Considering they perfected the village theme with the very first Monster Hunter, I doubt it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ28c3x6_kU

>>166551346
>pic

I like the old Los armor, too bad it doesn't have overly great skills in its returning appearances

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>>166551798
>Real Monster-Bitches

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>>166552080

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>>166552331
The wing webbing on the female armor is a nice touch.

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>>166552474
It was always there

>>166552591
Yes, I see that.

Can anyone help me with Hear No Evil, See No Evil? I need one Hunter's Ticket. The groups I tried with online all die to Rajang one hit kills. Hall ID is 10-2436-4580-8908, temporary password is 1234

>>166554012
Oh I forgot to mention that this was for 4u.

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>go on solo expedition
>two fucking monsters, velociraptor and that dodo thing with the beak
>fight for like 5 minutes then just run
I managed to get evidence from the dodo but I don't know what the fuck I was supposed to do.

>>166551787
41-3176-8279-3107

>>166554073
You dungbomb one and it'll run to a different area.

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>>166554135
Is the game going to teach me about traps and shit like that or am I expected to just figure them out? Playing MH4U.

>>166554171
Figure it out or do research online. Part of the game is knowing what you're fighting and how to deal with it before you run off to hit it.

>Go online for a bit
>Make a room
>Randoms keep bum rushing the board and posting urgent and key quests
>PLS PLS PLS PLS PLZ

Is pls a french or foreign thing?

>>166553796
Those fucking buck teeth get me every time

>>166554012
It doesn't look like anyone's coming, closed hall, going to bed.

>>166554012
>>166554829
>temporary password is 1234

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>>166555671

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>>166554829
That's because plenty of people who don't browse the threads actively will be expecting the typical room settings if they want to search for active /mhg/ rooms.

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>>166549181
stop being such a cringelord, dude

>>166555901
China loves fireworks.

>>166555941
there was just one guy running around setting them off like crazy

pretty sure they're a cash shop item, literally burning money when I was the only one around to watch

>>166556028
Fukken baller dude.

>>166555901
>Can't get jokes so he insults people
Have you taken your pills today anon?

>>166556127
See >>166556127

>>166556168
By your reply I'm guessing no.

>>166556127
You're a cringelord because you dress your huntress like a whore when full plate is ten times hotter.

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>>166556271
this

>>166556271
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE
And im the cringelord? Please you take your pills anon.

>>166556437
>Can't get jokes so he insults people
______________:^)________________

>>166556515
>Can't get jokes so he insults people
Ok then where is the joke anon?

>>166556718
It's MHGen

>>166556769
As i said before anon please go take your pills.

>>166556992
you've been talking to three different people, you know that?

>>166557031
He seems a bit slow to me, I doubt he follows.

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>>166557031
How would I? It's an non board man so I just assume if I keep getting the same childish replys It may as well be the same person.
Why can this place be good? You try and make a joke and then it triggers everyones autism.

>>166557235
The problem was your joke seemed like (you) baitt right out of /v/ due to it's tone.
I did the same and you reacted worse than >>166555901.

In short, you're a fucking hypocrite.

>>166557384
Ok you said it again that you were making a joke but when I asked you what it was you didn't say what it was. I honestly fail so see anything humorous in that post and see it just as another autistic attack that you spurges like to do.

You all seam to have some serious problems with your mental health so im sorry for triggering them and ill refrain from making any jokes what so ever in this thread since you are all to childish/mentally incapable to handle them.

>>166557670
>his joke is autistic but somehow yours isn't
adorable

>>166557907
>(you)
Since you guys clearly are just after this.

Is Aslat Charger any good ?

>>166559985
After all the faggotry that just happened it makes the usual furry shit look normal.

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>>166560607

>>166560607
Nothing makes furry shit look normal you delusional faggot

>>166560468
yes, make that shit

picked up generations today lads. Why does lance feel off in this game?

>>166563110
Play striker, it has the old moveset and crazy high MVs on the charge.

>>166563110
What do you mean off?

>>166563161
why does 3rd poke have such a long wind up tho?

>>166563221
what >>166563269 said. I liked Poke>Poke>Poke>sidestep rinse repeat. Now my timing feels off due to the long ass windup. Does striker not have the long third poke?

>>166563269
Ichinose is good at toying with things that are better off left alone. Generations also removed the archdemon boost from DBs to create a reliance on dash juice and the shield bash into AED from CB as well as gutting its GP.

>>166563369
To my knowledge striker does not have the windup.

>>166563369
samefag here, ty for the striker suggestion. Tried it in the training and it feels good again. time to jam my spear into monster butts,

>>166563369
Yep, go for striker style. It's good old lance.

>>166563486
well, cb was way to op
but db and lance were pretty much perfect

>>166563548
one more spoonfed question
can i still use the counter strike thing to attack a monster during its roar?

I want HR Mizutsune armor. Is it even worth going after? I think it looks kinda pretty but it might be worthless to me if I am using adept style Not quite sure how it interacts with that particular style but it can still be useful for other styles. So anyone wanna help me get? I would usually prefer to grind alone but I cant do that cuz there is no HR village quests.

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Hey guys, anyone want to hunt some hr6? Do some glavenus and rathalos farming and maybe some hypers?

16-7719-4471-2014

>>166564352
there's a turn room up I think

>>166564352
I need glavenus
if you're still up I'll come online

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn_0ti6I7Io

>>166564352
aww, dc
my internet is shit :/

>>166564995
Come on in man
>>166567408
Sucks man! Rooms still up

16-7719-4471-2014

>>166569428
the shame tho
k, will launch that shit again

also, why is it so easy for the connection to drop
it really happens a lot and I'm not the only one who has this problem

We need to build a wall around 4U maps and to keep out Dreadking Rathalos and instate extreme vetting of all future maps and flying wyverns so these mistakes aren't made again. Make Monster Hunter great again!

>>166551787
35-3176-1349-9740

>>166549067
[pixels internaly]

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>>166573740

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>internal resolution x 10
ehh I wonder if Capcom will make MonHun for Switch in the next 2 years
because that will be system seller for me

>>166575737
>capcom
>doing something smart

>>166565925
>explosions upon walking
Okay guys, who the fuck let Michael Bay in??

>>166575920
>they're already making MH XX
>it releases two weeks after Switch premieres
>perfect opportunity to also release it at this time
>Switch is region free
>Everyone imports game
that's my dream future
but you know capcom...

>eat for felyne insurance cuz randoms
>person carts twice instantly
>waits in base camp for rest of game
>another player double carts anyways
I hate this game so much.

>>166578762
Thats what you get for playing in cheat mode.

>>166578762
If you're not exclusively hunting with /mhg/, what are you doing?

>>166578937
/mhg/ doesn't always have a room open, and I hate soloing Akantor because it takes too long

Friendly reminder that Adept style is a crutch, I learned the hard way.

>>166579878
In g-rank adept will become a liability due to attacks like the blanka ball

>>166579106
if you're playing gen, just use the bowgun subquest strat

you can actually get every single akantor/ukanlos material by subquesting them over and over

>>166579937
*adept dodges and demon dashes through all of it*
get to my level

>>166580338
oh nice

>>166551265
No one?

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Best way to farm Monster Broth in Generations?

>>166581972
Striker imo, although aerial switch axe is one of the better aerial weapons striker gives you access to the Energy Charge + Demon Riot combo (+Absolute Readiness as a bonus)

>>166580346
>Adept is bad at dodging multi-stage attacks
>G-rank moves are largely multi-stage attacks
>pshh issa gon b EZ
You condemn its ease now, and you will be the very same guy who will be complaining that your crutch isn't viable in G-rank. That, you will be finding out the hard way.

>>166583138
Go into one of the high-rank "kill 50 bugs" missions with a poison gun.

>>166583713
>All those carts from melee adept users
>All those carts from Gen first hunters
>All those carts from G rank Hypers and Deviants

God damn.

how does MHGenerations compare to MH4U?

>>166589229
A few steps forward, and double the steps backwards.

>>166589229
poorly
if only because generations a high rank game with the definitive g-rank version on the horizon
4U is a g-rank game

>>166590557
so you think XX will be better than 4U?

>>166590980
No

Is Rathalos weak to Thunder? Wiki says it is in 3rd generation, does this still apply in MHGen?

>>166591441
Regular Rathalos is shit to dragon.
Silver is weak to Thunder and Water.

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>>166591441
Dragon works better but you should just go physical and smash his face.

>>166591441
Both kiranico and Ping's Dex are right there in the OP, anon.

In high rank what is more viable and 'fun'? SnS or SA? I can't decide

>>166593157
What ever one you enjoy most, stop pandering to these autists man.

>>166593157
SA is mash X to win with an occasional dodge, it's honestly pretty boring.
SnS at least has two good combos, though you'll be using R x x x a a most often. At least I think that's what it was.

>>166593281
There are no autists to pander to, anyone who would be that much of a dick over weapon choice doesn't play with /mhg/

>>166583713
adept duals is perfectly suited to dodging multi-stage attacks though

it is the definitive easymode

>>166583713
Dumb or something? Dual Blades adept dodges can be followed up with 2 invincible dashes.

>no Generations room up

JDIMSA

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>>166595280
You should fix that, mate.

man, monster hunter frontier z really looks bad

>>166590980
I think the base game has got a whole bunch of shit that irritates me, but we'll see if XXs endgame is any good

>>166594259
But I use aerial and not striker on SA, maybe that makes me a shitter

>>166596042
It's a lot of little things that grate on you after a while.

Monster invulnerability when they fly off is fucking stupid.

>>166563110
They fucked over Guild by changing the third poke to a slow shitty one with a Frontier multi-hit, and they quintuple fucked over Adept by literally removing the major thing that has made Lance great (and more importantly FUN) starting with Gen3: being able to Counter mid-combo. Adept Lance expects you to either be doing damage and eating shit for it or dealing zero damage just so you can adept guard every now and then.

Suppose it's irrelevant anyway since Hyper monsters basically mean any and all guarding is 100% pointless compared to the maybe 50% inefficient-but-still-relevant status it enjoyed previously; when token zero-impact shit like a Tama's forward nibbling deals chip damage through Lance shield even with Guard+2 you know they just don't give a single fuck anymore.


>>166563721
It was op in the sense that it did too much damage and KO for how simple the setups were; there was nothing functionally wrong with the the moveset itself though and stripping it feels exactly as token and arbitrary as pointlessly removing moves from various styles without any justification or replacing the input with something else. Changing the function of the guardpoints also completely takes away any semblance of impact or significance they have and is a pretty major nerf in itself since most attacks you'd want to gp you now flow through and beyond rather than using the impact to halt and deliver your counterattack.


>>166590557
>Gen is worse than 4U because of lack of G rank

That's one of several reasons, yes, but far from the foremost among them.


>>166595097
Fucking THIS. Playing Adept DS practically feels like playing with cheats on.

>>166598675

tl:dr, autismo

Is there a quest worse than Dreadking 7? I don't think there is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZc62IAucCc

>>166599404
Hellblade 8 with 4 key rushing sub 70 HR

>>166565925
MHO's Shen Gaoren was pretty nice and atmospheric compared to the original, hopefully they do a good job with this too. And hopefully it can't just be cheesed with two hhs in the party completely reaming it with that tripping ultimate like Shen

>>166583713
As others have said dual blades get the best adept mode, they get to dodge instead of doing the gay anime run.

Also you can avoid blanka balls by walking in a rounded triangle very easily once you know the pattern, adept just means you can iframe the last bounce to get a counter attack off to punish it.

The real crutch style is aerial.

>>166563110
>>166563269
Third poke doesn't have a super long windup in Striker style. All striker loses compared to 4U iirc is the charging jump (which was only added in 4U, and while it is convenient for jumping over teammates so you don't ram them its primary function is even more redundant now that every weapon is an IG with aerial style) and it doesn't have the long windup big commitment triple hit third thrust (which itself is neat for various reasons but detrimental if you're used to the old lance rhythm), and like someone else said its mv on charging finishers is greatly buffed. Because of that last thing in particular and lance's excellent hunter arts, striker lance is actually the #1 weapon on average in TAs in Generations.

>>166598675
>think adept lance will be awesome because i love guard lancing
>it's complete and utter shit
like just give it a tighter counter window but the adept counter, why is b-team so bad

>>166601979
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HUNTERS GET OUT
MOM BRING ME MY KUTKU TENDIES

>>166603028
Aren't diablos herbivores?
It explains why they act like such cunts.

I've hunted more fucking Raths in Generations than I've ever had to.
I'm finally fucking sick of it, and I can already imagine the same shit in MHXX.

Fuck their armors/weapons, I don't want to deal with everyone wanted their shit in MHXX so I have to hunt all of them 100 times again.

>>166603518
Yeah, they eat cactus and their beaks don't look suited to tearing flesh. Dunno what their pin is, I've never seen it, but I guess if they bite at the hunter that may stand as counter-evidence.

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2 slots left

>>166603028
>MOM BRING ME MY KUTKU TENDIES

>His mother has been a black Diablos for years now with no mate; Her son, nearing his 40's, has not left her side and perused his own life.

>Her face is with sadness, she fears what would happen to her poor son is she were to die tomorrow as she brings him his tendies.

>>166603767
>Charger in the tail
Khutezu is my favorite monster.

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>>166549453
He's arrived. Quite a few points of articulation, the joints are stiff but you can detach body parts and then alter the position before putting them back on. Pieces on the faulds do move around, offering a bit of freedom.

Red peg I assume is for putting the GS on the back.

>>166603751
The Bloses don't have a pin.

>>166605183
Revoltech?
I have a few of the ZOE ones. Those stands are shit for them. I'm glad to see you've got a better one.

>play with random
>2 gunners join room
>surprise hame (well almost, 3 gunner + 1 db)
>monsters fall like crazy
>1 has to go
>continue hunting
>some guy joins while we're out
>guy already picked some quest when we come back but whatever let's do this
>guy constantly fucks up
>runs to the edge of the map to heal
>hits during trap setting
>most annoying shout outs ever
>finish quest
>instead of kicking wait until he's eating
>quickly leave on a quest
>guy literally waits until we come back
>whines that we didn't wait for him, again with a quest already picked
>kick him

one of the best and worst experiences in one session

>>166604154
I hope you realize it's charger in the anus.

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>>166605761
Yeah, Revoltech. I'm more used to Figuarts and Figma, which are a bit more loose.

>>166576940
This reminds me of MH3G. That game came out a week before Vita came out. But you know Capcom...

10-6730-9116-6538
Up for anything (Gen)

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Grimclaw Tigrex in MH Spirits 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn8ezzbnGn4

>>166606808
It looks nice and the armor covers the joints very well.

Just be careful when moving them as the revol joints can snap or break and if the peg is stuck in the hole Hurr you're fuckedDurr.

>>166583713
>bad at dodging multi-stage attacks
Not if it's adept guard :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix6bbFyXSnA

>>166607867
>dat teo
my dick

hope stories gets localised, it looks comfy enough to make me play a jrpg again after i lost interest in pokemon

>>166609913
>>166607867
wait
>spirits
gay

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>hack 3ds
>forgot to back up gen and 4u saves
>1000 hours are now gone
>Dont want to play the shitty early game gathering quests in generations or 4u
help

>>166610192
Stories fan translation soon fellow hunter.

>>166611119
>forgot to back up gen and 4u saves
Good job idiot, if you follow the currently trendy guide correctly you have everything backed up.

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>>166609913
>>166610192
Never stops being funny. Like people who saw cool stuff in Frontier but after realizing that it is Frontier they hated it.

>>166611119
>help
how?
just save edit
4U only has what, 2 mandatory gathering quests?

>>166611180
stories was such a bad game
but I'm glad they made it instead of a babby proof mainline mh

>>166612373
You forgot "oh wait.." at the end of your sentence

>>166611119
4u should save everything on the cartridge, except stuff like armor/pouch loadouts
generations however saves the progress on the console

don't tell me you digitally bought it

>>166612452
;_;

>>166612351
I'd be interested to give Spirits a try since I want to see how it works, but it's not like I'll be able to do that without going to Japan.

Looks exciting at least.

>>166612351
I get that you're trying to point out some kind of irony but there really is none. Frontier is a Japan-only MMO, meaning that even if you play on a vpn you will generally have bad ping if you live in the states or Europe, and also that it is subject to many of the negative trappings of MMOs; Spirits is a Japan-only arcade cabinet card game, which is a similar situation. Both also have a fuckload of negative features, arguably outweighing the positive. It makes perfect sense to be regretful that something cool is in those as opposed to something more accessible/good overall.

It's like if you saw something that looked like a neat mod for WC3 and it turned out to just be an animation that played in Hearthstone.

>>166551787
55-9033-9175-6741

>>166612994
>will generally have bad ping if you live in the states or Europe

Not really, VPNs are pretty damn good these days.
I'd say you'd see as much latency issues as playing over the internet on the 3DS barring any network hiccups.

And the game is far better than mainline currently, but that's just my opinion as you have yours.

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>>166612994
No it wasn't irony. I was correlating what just happened to what have always happened before.

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>that valfalk hammer

Oh yes. More jet hammers.

>>166613421
If not irony then what is funny about the situation?

More like you're comparing your own misunderstanding of what just happened to your probably misunderstanding of what has happened before.

>>166614397
If it's irony then why did you say there's no irony?

Is there a room up?

>>166614714
Why don't you check and report back.

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> Strider: Frozen Mission
> 9420HP Deviljho

Why the fuck is this okay? I fucking timed out and I was on it's ass the whole fight. Why make quests that you can't solo?

>>166614648
It's like when someone uses the wrong there/they're/their, even though it's wrong you still know what they mean. >>166612351
says that it's funny when someone likes something until they find out that it's from spirits or frontier, which appears to be irony if you're slow witted or don't really think about it much- It's ironic that someone would not like those games despite them having features that the individual finds appealing, and that they would then decide they dislike the features instead of deciding they like the game when they find out the features are from those games. That's one form of irony, where something that happens is absurd at odds with how one would expect it to be. Irony is generally funny, and that's the only funny thing that I can detect in the situation, except this is only ironic when you focus on this small subset of facts and ignore the big picture.

This post was another kind of irony btw, the kind where you do something that deliberately isn't humourous (in this case explaining a joke) for an extended period for the sake of humour.

Anyway, the tl;dr is that it doesn't need to actually be ironic for it to be clear that a perceived irony in the situation is what >>166612351 was referring to, unless they literally just find people not liking things funny, which would be rather bizarre.

>>166615193
Anon, that's not a lot of health. Are you sure you were hitting it? At max it should have taken like 30 mins.

>>166615193
How do you time out on a 9000 hp monster? Sure it's still annoying and a textbook example of artificial difficulty, but really only the multi hyper hunts put you at odds with the clock.
Maybe your equipment is just shit you dumb frogposter

>>166615295
>only ironic when you focus on this small subset of facts and ignore the big picture
Pretty much. Just like how people like how Stories look like but once you play it the game is dogshit.

Also stop posting walls of text, I'm not gonna read them holy fucking shit.

>>166615305

> Almost 10,000 HP
> Not a lot of health

Most High Rank monsters have between 5-8k Health. This Jho has more HP than any Elder Dragon except for Alatreon and Amatsu.

>>166615385

My build is fine.

Attack: 230

- Razor Sharp
- Mind's Eye
- Tenderizer
- Stam. Recov. Up

Ate for Booster, chugged a Demondrug, bombarded the Jho with traps and bad foob, never left him alone.

>>166615537
Anon, really, I'm not trying to be rude or something. I really mean it, hyper Duramburos has about the same health and it takes like 30 mins to solo.

Maybe change your strategy I don't know. Or don't solo it.

>>166615537
In ichinose's world it's not a real monster until it brushes 15k

>>166615696
I don't have a lot more advice besides either find a group or practice until you git gud
Maybe try a normal deviljho to get down the moveset.

Also your build is passable, you only have 1 damage skill but you've got a nice amount of utility. You should swap the mind's eye out for somthing else if you can though.

>>166615745
There is only 1 Hyper Duram quest (8580 HP) that's even REMOTELY close in HP than the Strider Jho (9420 HP) Kiranico confirms.

>>166608065
Fair enough too. Have to take some care as it certainly wasn't cheap.

>>166615908
I know, I meant to switch equipment beforehand but said fuck it. It's my Rajang hunting gear. And it's not like I have trouble with Jhos, I know all their moves and I didn't cart once during the quest.

>>166616030
Then you're not being aggressive enough
Maybe try a different weapon? he's really weak to DBs
What are you using now?

>>166616094
I WAS USING MY FUCKING DB's

I was crazy aggressive, I never left him alone.

>>166616145
Are you, perchance, using an element?

>>166615193
That's a normal Jho, at least in 4U. Like >>166615305 said if you're appropriately geared something with that much health should only take like half an hour, maybe longer if you're bad at the monster/with your weapon but not that much longer.

If you're really struggling, multiply scatterfish at the trader and but or make barrel bomb larges, gunpowder, barrels, drugged meat (raw meat + sleep herb), trap tools, shock traps, pitfall traps and nets, make ten barrel bomb large +'s (combine bbl with a scatterfish) and use those to make 5 gems for the skill bomb boost. Then put those in a set with five or more slots. Make an item set with three BBL, two BBL+, ten each of barrels, gunpowder and scatterfish, two trap tools, two nets, one of each type of trap, ten drugged meat and the combo books.

BBL+ each do 195 (iirc) true damage with bombardier (the bomb boost skill), you can set two bombs at once, and a sleeping monster takes triple damage from a bomb if a bomb is what wakes it up. Jho eats drugged meat even if it isn't exhausted, and it gets exhausted (and even more likely to eat meat) really fast anyway. IIRC with a full stack you can put jho to sleep three times. That's 6 of your 15 BBL+s and takes out 2340 of its health, seriously gimping it. Then each time you trap it with your four traps you can set off two more bombs, spending another 8 and bringing you down to your last one, for another 1560 damage, a total 3900 off. You should be able to find an opportunity to safely explode the last one, bringing that to a nice 4095, gimping it to 5325 health, a pretty ordinary number (despite jho also having fairly lenient hitzones and elemental weaknesses to compensate for its normally very high health). If you use a sleep weapon, especially a gunner weapon, you should be able to get the wakeup bonus a couple more times gimping it even more, but I'm just assuming you're casul. Capping shaves even more HP off. Trapmaster helps too.

>>166616145
What DBs, thunder?
Then it didn't take 50 minutes

>>166616243

Thunder. Which Jho is weak to.

>>166616249

G-Rank Jho's in 4U have a max HP of 8,520. That's nowhere near the HP of this Jho. And running around putting bombs on the ground is a gigantic waste of time.

>>166616293
Hunting Style? Go Aerial and spam demon dance on its head. If you're timing out, then you're not being as aggressive as you say you are.

In short, git gud fag.

>>166616515
Anon, you're bad. That's it, you're bad at this game. Even soloing he's still a Deviljho. It has the same moveset, it has the same weakness to thunder.

Get good and stop complaining. Or remember this is a multiplayer game and post your room here.

>>166616515
>G-Rank Jho's in 4U have a max HP of 8,520. That's nowhere near the HP of this Jho.
It is though. It's only a little short.

>And running around putting bombs on the ground is a gigantic waste of time.
The numbers simply disagree. If you're placing bombs in multiplayer with randoms where nobody knows what you're doing and you blast everyone off the monster, or you're just trying to drop bombs while fighting the monster, then sure, you're wasting time/dps, but if you're playing solo bombs are basically the most damage you can be doing at any time, especially with bombardier and trapmaster.

>>166616628
>>166616293
Also, what's stopping you from just capping it?

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>>166616637
> Haha, what a fag, he needs a group to hunt hard monsters, git gud

> This is a multiplayer game! Posts rooms REEEEEEE

Comparing the hp totals between games seems pretty fucking stupid.

>>166617698
Not really, most monsters' HP remains the same between iterations and events have about the same boosted HP.

>>166599404
silverwind 7? nigga just jumps around traps and spams wind shit

>>166603626
>inb4 silver sol z becomes god tier armor
>inb4 another dlc armor which pairs well with silver sol z requires g rank hyper silver rathalos

>>166615193
that hp is literally nothing, it only has 1.3k more hp than a normal savage, and a normal savage shouldn't even take 15 minutes to solo

Anybody wanna do some HR questing in MH4U? I wanna check mark and grind for some upgrades.

>>166616293
>using thunder db's
>take 50 minutes to solo savage deviljho dlc which only has 1k more hp
git gud

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>>166618837
>g-rank hyper monster mixed sets are going to be the only worthwhile armor
>expanded roster of deviants means that there's going to be a deviant weapon for every application
>hours upon hours of farming g-rank hyper metal raths, bloated event monsters, and deviants

the future is bleak.

>>166619553
You can hunt with a fashionable and fun set
You don't need to META all the time

>>166619349
>>166619553
>Ichinose won't be fired for his crimes because new players don't know enough to care.
End it

>>166619734
>Ichinose won't be fired for his crimes because new players aren't autistic enough to care.
Fixed that for ya.

>>166619659
next you'll tell me you also don't need a perfect relic greatsword or ig to enjoy 4u

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>>166619836
>>166619940
>caring about a game series and wanting it to improve and be the best that it can be is autism
>not being critical of the games you play

>>166620069
I'd go to wyvern's end with the intro video hammersis if you know what I mean

I mean the bone zone

>>166619734
You can't keep blaming one guy for everything.

>Barroth in the dunes
>no mud pool in the dunes
how is he going to muddy himself up

>>166620189
I don't, actually. It's just a meme. But
>All the best gear is rathalos
>Yukumo has the most quests
These two things I feel I can blame on Ichinose

>>166620424
>best city with the best main map has the most quests
I ain't complaining.

>>166619734
>ryozo and fujioka won't be fired for stories bombing hard

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I WANT TO HUNT G-RANK AMATSUMAGATSUCHI.

GIVE ME MORE SUCC AND MORE TWISTERS.

>>166620590
I wonder if he will get any new moves in g rank

>Valfak weapons are dragon element
>yfw Alatreon weapons get cucked
>3rd generation cucked yet again

>>166620815
What if they were Dragon/Blast

>>166620476
Honestly, Yukumo is great and the farm and guild hall were even better.
But it's still him needlessly stroking his dick, yes we get it you directed the best selling psp game ever.

>>166620859
judging by that sp preview video, it's just dragon, also valfak literally has all the same moves as gore

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>>166620329
It can't.

>>166620329
They'll probably half ass it and make him roll in the sand.

>valfuck has rathalos around the world except he nukes straight down on the player

What's the best way to grind bomb casings? Stone is surprisingly hard to get.

>valfuck weapons are dragon
>yfw db's might finally get a good dragon element weapon

>>166621507
multiply sap plants, or just buy from trader

>>166620970
gore doesn't have a double charge

>>166621641
that's probably his own move, gotta make use of that jet somehow

>>166621926
Also doesn't shoot his projectiles like gore does

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Which one do you like the most?

>>166622358
bubbles

>>166622358
Soapfoot

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>>166622358
Dinovaldo

>>166620815
Yeah Shagaru Magala totally cucked Fatty in 4U.

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>>166622358
best girl

>>166622358
dino

>>166622358
Gammoth is the best design but it's fight is so fucking bad. Mizu, I guess.

Sorry for leaving abruptly, but the monsters were pretty laggy on my end.
I don't see the room up anymore, so I'm sorry if me D/C'ing midhunt killed the room.

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Bros, /ourguy/ gaijin did a hands on impressions of Switch, it just popped in my subscribed feed and I quickly told my dad to do yardwork alone because gaijin had a new vid up.

Anyway, good news because his review seems positive, I breathed a sigh of relief because if the master of monster hunter liked it, it must be good. After all, he is very influential ( remember, #mhxforthewest?)

Anyway, heres the link, please enjoy!!

https://youtu.be/sz1b5HLr9O8

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>>166622358
They are all old and busted.

>>166624128

I'd be up for some hunting but don't want to open rooms because of lag.

>>166615985
>65 aud
thats not that much anon, the gore girl is 110 aud plus shipping

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>>166624294
>Not Gal Magala

Say one thing you liked about gen.

I've only played for 100 hours but I really enjoy misty peaks, area 5 feels great but the reeds in 7 feel kinda obnoxious in some hunts.

>>166624470
I think Dinovaldo is the most fun to hunt.

>>166624470
Longsword getting restored to its former glory and getting wicked crazy hunter arts.

>>166624165
This is a pretty solid shitpost.

>>166624470
I liked striker Gunlance

>>166624470
When you get hit against the wall there's a wallslam animation. That's about it I guess.

>>166624470
db spin to win in demon mode by pressing special attack button

>>166624714
I remember that being in 4U but only Rajang could really hit you that hard if I remember correctly.

>>166624818
Well I've never seen it.

>>166624165
>that ogre thumb

>>166624470
Weapon fashion is more viable.

Generations room up with 2 slots, usual spot.

>>166624470
It's much more balanced than 4U and probably every previous title, apart from gunlance getting straight up shat on when it was already weak, HH kind of lagging behind everything else (especially in solo play) still and striker lance being busted. Even with that in mind the disparity isn't nearly as great between OP lance and UP gunlance as it was between IG and GL.

>>166624818
I've fought millions of rajang in 4U and never saw that, I've seen the wallslam animation several times in like 60 hours of generations. It is similar to what happens when you get knocked down next to a ledge and falling down the ledge cancels the fall in 4U though.

>>166624345
Thanks anon will call her that from now on, cant wait for amiami to get off their ass and send it to me already.

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>>166625232
EMS is pretty quick, at least. I keep forgetting just how much paper you get with the invoice though.

>>166624165
Well if Gaijin-sama approves of the Switch, then surely Capcom will heed his advice and we'll get MHXX, MH4U HD, MH3U HD, MH Stories and MH5 for the system.

>>166625617
>MH3U HD

An excuse to sell my Wii U away

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>>166624165
Man how does people that fat even play videogames?

>>166626046
to the exclusion of exercise

>>166625583
Yeah i picked EMS even though the price was liek 2,900 yen.
>I keep forgetting just how much paper you get with the invoice though.
Do you mean what they pack it in to keep it safe or is it some form of documentation?

>>166626335
The documents, it's four full sheet of paper. Contrast to simply buying something elsewhere on the internet, where you only get one piece most of the time.

>>166625063
Still two spots available, cmon

>>166627156
Fuck off, no one cares.

>>166627323
Cringe

>>166626510
Is it in english like the site or in moonrunes?

>>166627782
It's bilingual.

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Hunting some more Lagiacrus. Room is up with him as the target.

Kojak, we're almost done. Why did you leave?

I couldn't find any rooms up for gen. its my birthday and I'm very lonely.

>>166628189
I had dogs to feed I'm coming back right now

>>166628346
We got one room open, it's my bday too. 26 January?

>>166628563
I lost track of time, it was yesterday.

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>>166628563
>>166628346
Happy Birthday!

>>166628637
We got a room with one spot open, come join.

>>166628686
I looked under gathering and there wasn't anything there.

>>166628757
did you search password?

>>166628757
Password on, and HR 8-999.
If you still don't see it, I guess you have to un-blacklist someone.

>>166628757
24 5028 8586 9999

>>166628887
Oh I'm HR 5 at the moment.

>>166628950
JUST
Sorry m8, better get unlocked soon

>>166629012
o-ok

>>166627860
Is that why there is like four A4 sheets

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>>166629354
Nah, it's just Moonrunes with some smaller english words near them. You'll see when you get them.

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I want a tub full of nothing but Mizu soap!

>>166629508
Rip, I'm so impatient man I feel like its going to take forever to come.

What do you think is the most useful 5 gem skill? Listing for convenience:

Halve Stun
Negate Tremor
Negate Bind
Heat Cancel
Cold Cancel
Anti Theft
Iron Skin (Def Lock)
Bio Researcher (Stench and Blast Res)
Negate Bleeding
Health +20
Fire/Water/Thunder/Ice/Dragon Res +15
Speed Sharpening
Steadiness +1
TrueShot Up
Pierce/Pellet/Crag S+ (bowgun)
Poison/Sleep/C. Range/Exhaust/Blast C+ (bow)
Artillery Novice
Horn Maestro
Bombardier
Sneak
Palico Cheer
Mounting Master
Airborne
Detect
Capture Guru
Outdoorsman
Pro Transporter
Divine Blessing
Item Use Up (Lasting Pwr)
Halve Hunger
Gourmand
Rationer
Meat Lover
Mushromancer
Herbology
Combination +20%
Combination Pro
Trap Master
Gathering +1
Honey Hunter
Spirit's Whim
Soul of Bherna - Combines the effects of "Fire Res +15" and "Halve Hunger."
Soul of Kokoto - Combines the effects of "Spirit's Whim" and "Thunder Res +15."
Soul of Pokke - Combines the effects of "Ice Res +15" and "Gourmand."
Soul of Yukumo - Combines the effects of "Honey Hunter" and "Water Res +15."

In MHO, how are you meant to deal with the ultra tight tracking that some monsters' charge attacks have?

I can avoid pretty much every other attack for most of the 3rd tier monsters but then every time they charge I can't dodge it unless I sheath dive right into them. Might try eva distance but even that seems like it wouldn't help as you can't even out-sprint the tracking.

>>166634261
as in level 1 3 star?
also i cant even find evade distance for my SA and its starting to annoy me

>>166634335
3rd tier as in the level 90 unlocked monster hunts - I guess MHO G-rank equivalent. But the charges are a problem in 2nd tier as well, I'm trying to get the 90%+ ratings on Chameleos and Gravios and it's pretty much decided on whether or not their AI decides to charge constantly or just use normal attacks.

I had to give up on building my DPS set and go for the utility armor because they gave half the monsters in this game a roar or wing buffet which instantly leads into a 50%+ HP damage attack that triggers before your stun animation finishes, so now the charges are the only problem left.

>>166625120
>Even with that in mind the disparity isn't nearly as great between OP lance and UP gunlance as it was between IG and GL.
It's actually greater, 4U was far more balanced outside of Apex.

>>166634168
negate tremor

Why are they so stingy about new reveals in MHXX?
They confirmed new hunter arts but they haven't shown anything about them at all

>>166551787
06-5842-8233-8781

>>166634703
Yeah they did, SP arts.

>>166634168
Speed sharpen or tremor res

>>166636876
Those aren't new.

>>166637279
They never said new arts though. Watch back the direct. They said evolve.

https://youtu.be/CLSDeGeDpKs?t=380

>>166637447
The newest special video confirmed that they were adding new HAs to all weapons.

>>166637801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix6bbFyXSnA

This one? Nothing but SP arts. Even in the damn title.

>>166634652
There were barely any submissions for non-apex quests, and any semblance of balance arose from the fact that times were extremely erratic- For instance you'd often have misleading bullshit like a 6 minute SA time and a 7 minute GS time not because SA was stronger than GS or even a better matchup but because the only GS submission for the quest was really bad. Generally the quests that even had submissions for enough weapons that weren't 140s (ie apex and the non-apex shit that I guess you're ignoring where the pattern continues) were ones that were easy enough that people saw they had no submission for given weapons and could easily fill in a slot with their submission, and you'll note that most weapons for most of those quests on the atwiki have only one submission as a result. Similar shit happened to the /mhg/ TA spreadsheet, if you were around then and don't have the memory of a goldfish you'll recall a few people just doing various quests with various weapons and admitting they did badly but just filling in fields in a vain effort to get more people to participate.

Basically the reason you only see such strong trends in 140s is because they were the only things that people seriously TAed in 4U.

>>166638095
any semblant of imbalance is the result of 140 solo being a fuck you to half the weapons

So what are the odds that MHXX will do anything to fix Gen's balancing issues? Or will it just be even worse than before?

>>166638243
worse than before
source : literally every single thing they've shown

>>166638219
Really only LS and HH are fucked by the mechanics of 140s (especially apex). So which of those did you main? :^)

The real exceptions to the 4U ranks are weapons like DB and Bow that had a lot of both hunts where they were extremely good matchups and did very well compared to everything else (except usually GS and IG) and ones where they were just the opposite, making weapons that were among the best in the places where they were good look mediocre if you just looked at the average times (though of course DB later had a really good average time too).

>>166638453
GL was too slow, so was Lance, so was Hammer, so was LS, so was HH,so was SA, all guns got fucked by the health pool.
Look at all the best weapons, they all have the same thing in common : mobility, fast attacks and somewhat low motion duration.

>>166638273
>iterally every single thing they've shown
Yeah, because watching a few gameplay videos instead of actually waiting to play the full game yourself really tells you more about it, right?

How do I play Adept DB, pls send help

>>166638713
Like normal DB?

>>166638713
Literally press Start

>>166638886
What next

>>166638597
>all guns got fucked by the health pool.
That's actually true, I forgot about that. What that actually resulted in was those weapons not having submissions for most hunts, though (making their comparison to other weapons based on those averages shoddy at best, whether or not it was in the weapons' favour).

>Look at all the best weapons, they all have the same thing in common : mobility, fast attacks and somewhat low motion duration.
No, what they all have in common is inflated motion values and little or no windup to full power. GS has none of the above except mobility (but only once sheathed, which requires skilling into sheathing instead of stacking more damage, on top of needing focus). HBG was #4 for a long time, iirc it dropped to #5 toward the end of the game's lifespan but that's still very high. DB spent a long time looking below average, SnS is also almost exactly average- So is hammer, for that matter, which ended only a negligible amount behind SnS.

Of course IG has all of the above. High mobility, fast attacks, some low attack commitment, and absurdly inflated MVs. It was only natural that in time it rose to #1, especially after the final form of the Shah IG became legal. But behind that you're looking at GS and CB. You can argue that CB is still very mobile with short attacks but you can't really argue that while also saying hammer is not just as mobile with short attacks.

In the end three things send a weapon to the top: more good matchups, fewer bad matchups and higher motion values. The third is the most important, because if a weapon does enough damage, like IG, even a bad matchup will show a favourable time compared to other weapons. It just helps IG that the kinsect, despite having low raw independent of the glaive, has very high MVs for breaking apex.

Hello Capcom please introduce something that makes SA's Axe mode worth using or even better introduce a buff that incentivizes using combos that switch between modes. I love the weapon but I'm sick of Sword mode's boring-ass combos.

Thanks for reading.

>>166548653
gen ultimate, they dont really care

>>166634703
>>166637447
>>166638038
They actually do say new additions to hunting arts in both videos. With 2 months til release, it's probably not that much they're adding.

>>166639017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDT9tzR4POI

>>166639017
Hey Capcom while you're here make HH's buffs stronger the fewer players there are, so they're at current strength with three players, half strength with four, double with two and triple with one so it can stand up in solo play without being overpowered online

thanks m8s

>>166638653
It tells you arts are still shit with absolute readiness being the best all the time.
It tells you they didn't know what they did wrong since they revel in them.
It tells you it's going to be X in G rank which means turning hyper (frenzy) into "apex" or keeping it as is, the same request cancer, the same deviant ticket cancer and the same "hyper zinogres spam projectiles half the size of the map for two minutes straight"
The new styles are looking terrible, with Alchemy being lucky if it's even remotely useful and brave being the potential new adept with everything it implies.
Speaking of adept, it's probably going to be shat on by the skill powercreep considering how many skills we managed to fit in a high rank game you can expect the G rank skill sets to be 4U tiers or worse, which means gemming in Tremor Res is no longer going to be worse than running adept.

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GS uses prediction, charge time doesn't matter, the motion of the sword going down is instant and you can roll out of it instantly. Unlike hammer which has to get three hits in to hit the golfswing, which lasts as long as the GS jump finisher.