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Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to MtG aka RNGstone (without massive RNG) aka Eternal.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (embed) (embed)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor UPDATED WITH BAHAMUT:

Link:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
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Updated card art package.
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

>>166408768
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Post elf
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>next expansion come
>they make dirt rune viable
>aggro is unplayable
>the cancer is only Rune again
>mid range,control and combo are playable
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Rune really needs a Ward with reducable cost
In it's current state, Rune just autoloses to roach if you don't finish in early
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discord cuck btfo yet again
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>People unironically believe cygames will nerf anything ever again now that they have Korean subhumans wasting thousands of dollars trying to get animated versions of the most broken cards
Don't expect a balance change ever again from this point onward. This game is now in the hands of dog eating whales.
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Never ever trust "Daria bricks 100%" of the time memers. They are disinfo agents from AA+ so you won't tech for them
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>I use Dorothy
>I get 2 craigs, 2 clarkes and some useless spell
>Enemy uses her on turn 5
>Gets 3 0 cost followers and 2 piercing runes at 1 cost

Come the fuck on
This shit isnt fair
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I'd rather deal with DE Elana Haven any day. Shadow is the epitome of not fun. And to make matters worse, all the new good cards they got don't really interact with Shadows (meanwhile Control Blood) so they are able to spam grossly undercosted removal like Foul Tempest while still being able to play aggro or control.

No matter what Shadow deck is ran, it's the same shit. Half the deck is cheap removal and they abuse broken cards like Lurching Corpse, which comes down way too early in a match to be as strong as it is. Death's Breath and Foul Tempest are ridiculously strong cards and having a shadow cost is meaningless these days.
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I'm liking this deck.
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>>166424598
All DECKS are getting equal representation :)
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>pluto
>greek male god of the underworld

>nips turn it into a loli
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>tfw they actually just themis it
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>>166424541
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>>166424620
>lets buff the strongest, most played class in the game for no reason
no thanks my dude, eat shit
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>>166424453
>>166424409

Force her to sleep at night and wake up by day.
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>>166424678
they can nerf levi and piercing rune leaving daria alone

right now they are risking the game popularity overall if they don't nerf those
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Ghetto control shadow doing well in B ranks. Any suggestions other than crafting more Cerbs? Goblinmount and Lucius are doing surprisingly well as tech replacements.
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test
>Play like a retard
>Still win
nerf when?
https://my.mixtape.moe/creals.mp4
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12180475
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>>166424728
desu at least everyone have more than 10% of representaion the only problem is rune again
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>>166424620

That is the one reason why it's manageable to get a win against it, as any craft.

If they release a ward like that without giving other decks insane firepower and answers, I'm out.
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>>166424745
haters gonna hate
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Why didn't anyone tell me roach was so fun?
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>166424732
That won't work twice
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Stories to tell your friends.
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>>166424905
>>166424776
>people thinks it's okay to have autolose matchups at all
Uh huh
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>>166424732
Everyone turns it into vials.

captcha: DOROTHY
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>>166424804
>like anyone would care about piercing rune and levi

These are the biggest bullshits of Daria and a bet whales are just dumb fucks thinking that Daria carry the deck alone.
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>>166424889
Delete this. She is pure.
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>>166424889
DELET
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>>166424541
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>>166425008
start by buffing control blood then
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>>166424969

But that isn't otk newt

>deal 6 damage 2 times
>deal 5 damage 2 times
>oh, that's an overkill
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>>166424889
unica is so cute

i want unica emblem and unica leader (available for any craft)

>>166425018
whales can fuck themselves, their daria is safe in their decks and they have nothing to complain since it wasn't nerfed

also cygames can ignore them whatsoever because they didn't promise anything about animated daria
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>>166425071
>Buffing control blood
>Control blood meta

Holy shit no
Bury that shit really far down so no one ever uses it properly.
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>>166424889
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>>166424858

> disaster witch

wew
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>>166424732
>>pluto
>>greek
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Card Idea.

What if Hel (From Norse mythology) was two girls/young women (instead of half/half split) and the light side is a total bitch and the dark side is passive and nice
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@166424719
Nice pasta.
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>>166425008
Autolose matchups become inevitable the more archetypes that exist. And it's clear that Cygames doesn't actually playtest anyway, they just release a bunch of cards that are around an arbitrary appropriate power level determined in a vacuum.
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>>166424684
>10 Daria games
>All of them have Piercing Rune + Levi + Daria by turn 4
I'll never trust that meme ever again
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>>166425037
>>166425041

no
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>>166425262
>Angels are evil
>Demons are good

More likely than you think. Japan fucking loves that shit
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What % is A0 and above?
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21412 concede please, thanks.
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>>166425443
The 1%
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Just opened Soul Dealer, he's the horrible legendary right?
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>>166425558
Yes he is. No one knows when he'll be good, if ever.
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>>166425334

>washi wa
>washi wa
>washi wa

I think it triggers me more than cudgel nowadays.
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>>166425057
>tfw no schoolgirl Arisa gf
Why live?
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>>166424776
>Real chart looks almost exactly like that meme chart
Wew lad
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>>166425698
>Laddering as rune
>Rune mirror matches
>I'm 1st always so their levi always goes first and wrecks my shit

Make it stop
Please make it stop
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Give me a list of cards that weren't useful on their initial release, but became useful later due to the addition of new cards.
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>>166425698
Playing rune in general triggers me.
>Alright he has 0pp, there's nothing else he can pla- drops two oglers and a blade mage
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>>166425804
>dimension magic.jpg
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an option "not to be matched vs rune" when
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Daria rune is balanced.
You will brick half the time and you will lose 50% of your games when it happens.
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>>166425665
Nice, half my legendaries are unplayable, the other half is below average. Only playable one I have is Bahamut I think.
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>>166425725
It hurts
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>>166425783

Atomy is getting there.
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>>166425861
>>166425908
Right on cue.
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>>166425698
>Turn 1 Insight
>Turn 4 Levi
>Turn 5 Daria
Every time, I just roll my eyes as I see it coming
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>>166425783

The city of Earth Rite
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DARIA IS BALANCED IT BRICKS 156% OF THE TIME ALL THE TIME

FACT
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Playing against control blood is pretty bad too

I swear they always get their perfect draws and never ever brick, or at least the ones that fight against me.
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>>166425804
>turn 5 daria
>bring two 2 oglers with her

menu, concede
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>>166425698

>he plays levi on turn 2

He's literally telegraphing to you that he has another in hand and there is nothing you can do to stop him. Smuggy asshole.
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>>166425431
yeah you are right. How about them both being ambiguously evil and good.
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I'm completely new to the game and I mostly played Arena off the single player campaign rewards. I feel like I do really well with Swordcraft getting 4 wins a lot. Is Control Swordcraft good? I heard of it but I don't know anything more than like two day's worth of gameplay.
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>>166425698

>Turn 1 Insight/Angelic Snipe face
>Turn 2 Craig/Magic Missile Face
>Turn 3 Clarke
>Turn 4 Levi+Crimson+Piercing+Witchette and/or Ogler

Every
Fuckign
Time
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>just got to B-rank
>literally every match is against Daria

How do I beat her?
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>>166425908
I love my cute wife Dorothy!
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>>166426101
It's more like, "hey fag, im clearing my hand of good shit because Dorothy is incoming"
"Rev that concede button up"
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>>166426186
Pray and have board clear
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>>166426038
This. Anyone who says differently is a D ranked shitter.
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>>166426073
kill yourself
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>>166426093

Just themis it bro
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>>166426130
Just keep playing arena and opening packs until you can build a cheap version of a meta deck to play ranked. Also constructed doesn't really have much resemblance to arena.
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I'm fine with Daria the problem for me is how 30% of SV community is bandwagoner so the ladder turns to be a unpleasant place.
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>>166426317
Well everyone seems to be complaining about Rune in a way that reminds me way too much of Shaman in HS so I guess I'll just wait until a nerf happens before I go to constructed, that makes sense.
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Reminder to concede against every Daria if you want her nerfed.
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>>166426186
>How do I beat her?
good mem
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>>166426423
Funny because the nips call the game Witchverse in the same way HS players call the game Shamanstone
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wew lad
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>>166426392
people want to play the strongest deck in a competitive game

who would think
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All dirt anons please hear me.
Could you post your deck? and rank if you want
I don't know what to craft so I kinda wanted to see what everyone is running.
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>>166426073
cblood is pretty bottomheavy compared to other control decks and rarely bricks, but it's easy to get fucked on draws if it doesn't get Dire Bond.
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>>166426130

Aggro decks are cheap and control decks not.

If you wanna ladder anyways keep opening packs and have a gameplan. Most noobsters before B won't be able to netdeck so enjoy that part of the ladder
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>>166426186
just use your board clears dude
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>>166426528
she is strong but lacks of nothing

At leas t everyone can play with haven without being called cancer
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>>166426495
Did I come in at a bad time or were all the shills talking about how awesomely SV is designed bullshitting me? Not that I unquestionably believed them or anything but they really insisted on it.
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>>166426532
i want to catch that tail
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>>166426532

Here's mine. >>166424727
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>>166426186

wew I'm glad I will never stop sandbagging
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>>166426186

Dirt Rune, C-Blood, just Themis it bro, Sun Satan, Aggro Blood, Aggro Shadow, Aggro Sword

And pray that you're going second
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IT'S TIME
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>>166426681
So I just stall and drop ptp on them?
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>>166426186
Pray she bricks
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>>166426423
It doesn't matter as much. SV ranked doesn't reset like HS. You basically just need to win a certain number of games to get the rewards for the month, it doesn't matter how often you lose or what rank you're in. You also can't rank very far down if you do badly. So it's no issue to try even with a bad deck because there's hardly any penalty for losing. At the very least, try to get the unique emblems and sleeves each month since they'll be gone forever.
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>>166426720
H-HEAR
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>>166424727
>>166426740
And get bahamuted
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>>166426579
>Aggro decks are cheap and control decks not.
Oh sure I know, it's like that in every card game. But is Control Sword good enough to save up for? Is there a Midrange Sword?
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>>166426646
>SV is designed bullshitting
Is a sad moment but is better than DE at least all the crafts have a playrate of 10% 18% is Daria and 12% is d-shift two boring decks.
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>>166426720
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>>166426836
>Daria shitting on all decks
>Dshift shitting on the decks trying to counter Daria
You can't make this up
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>>166426740
>>166426803

You have all the cards to generate a board (which will generate shadow). Just play on until the right time to drop PTP to finish them off with style.

>bahamut

That's a big 2/2.
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>>166426806
Pretty much every sword deck now runs 3 Alberts, and most run 2-3 Aurelia and a Tsubaki.
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>>166426423
aggro= faster laddering
control= slow
Everyone want to make games of 1 minutes and move on so the people chose brainded shit to play.
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>>166426507
What is going on, Olivia in Nep decks?
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>>166426945
bahamut just destroyed your wincon
next turn petrify is too little too late
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>>166426849
>tfw actually managed to finish this today with otk discard dragon

the key is ultimate carrots
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>>166426941
Don't know how anyone can defend this shit like that retard of pasta he finds d-shit well designed and fair.

Rune is the unfun craft
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>>166426962
You forgot Amelia
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>>166427045

How can it kill my wincon when I only play PTP when I am sure I have lethal?
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>>166426720
godspeed
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>>166427070
i have an unfortunately decent winrate with wildfate combo. it's kind of stupid. I should not be winning at all with it.
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>>166426941
How can one craft get so much cancer?
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>>166427131

or when you can play another one from hand.
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>>166427045
>>166426945
>>166426803
I love these pointeless discussions when you kill all your deck sinergy to counter a t2 deck.
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>>166427131
Bahamut in deck means it's Control
You aren't going to do shit for face damage with your defensive deck with a tacked on wincon against a real Control deck
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Shadow is so good in T2, value outta the ass all day, especially with those new 3-drops from RoB.
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>>166427228
Issue is, Bahamut number 2, and 3. And Olivia.
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>>166427131
?????
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>>166426646
definitely way better designed, much more fast paced with more meaningful synergy. and very little RNG effects so it actually feels rewarding, though I think that makes the meta more rigid

it's not quite as bad as the general makes it seem though of course, daria is only an insta-lose for shitters but the deck is quite meta-defining currently
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>>166426836
>Is a sad moment but is better than DE
when was the happy moment then, the original release?
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>>166427209
Spellboost is a shit mechanic
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>>166426720
just Genesis his face for 11 you shitstain
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>>166427253

>levi's face burn
>he's going to bahamut every zombie, guardians

Yeah, no.
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>>166427339
forgot to say t. someone who spent way too much time playing hearthshit
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>tfw someone gets greedy with me and goes face instead of hitting my board
>Make board even bigger, evolve one of them and make everything hit his face
>They suddenly want to trade when they realize it was a bad idea but now its too late
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>>166426646
>Did I come in at a bad time or were all the shills talking about how awesomely SV is designed bullshitting me?
wasn't as bad in DE where there was elana ptp forest and mid sword

now everything is just daria and the occasional otk forest, dont even see people playing bats anymore
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>>166426962
aggro sword doesn't run aurelia

>>166427107
amelia is gold
alwida is the real mandatory sword gold
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>>166427370
I heard tha Release was only satan and shadow but everyone need to bitch about something.
like in DE haven wans't even the strongest craft but everyoned jumped in the wagon '
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>>166427008
My list is >>166424846 , I'm limited in cardspace so I have Olivia in as more endgame fuel instead of another Nep. She has never disappointed to be honest family, and I rather like Nep as a one of so I don't have to build my deck around it entirely.
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>>166426186
>Currently B1
>Shadow, Haven, Dragon, Sword, Haven, Dragon
Ding dong the witch is dead
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>>166427396
>7/9 that evolves to 9/11
>Hit for 11
sekrit JO tech?
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>>166427297

>bahamut destroys my board
>shadow counters is 30
>plays 2 PTP

?????
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>>166426962
don't forget that one guy with a rush/bane and proc that instantly hurts the enemy leader

wait why the fuck does he get to have a proc that hurts the enemy leader?
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>>166424620
Rune has a positive winrate against roach
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>>166427440
??????????
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>>166427596
>Bahamut still at 1 defence.
>Here comes Forte
:^)
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>>166427619
>wait why the fuck does he get to have a proc that hurts the enemy leader?
So I could use him in Arena please don't tell the developers.
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>>166427487

>there is no right choice

That's an even better feeling.
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>>166427619
sword is too weak :^)

>>166427647
rune has a positive winrate against everything

i am already thinking about crafting/pulling triple dorothy, when they nerf her i will get my vials back anyway
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Can I spectate someone for the watch and learn quest?
Neobility#1373 NA
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>>166426646
SV is a great when you aren't playing vs Daria/OTK roach
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>>166426806
>Is there a Midrange Sword?
;_;
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>>166427675

>implying the dragonfag is not at 12 and below with a pitiful board
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>>166427496
Hence the comma, and word "most" signifying that not all run them. Aggro sword is shit tho, better off just running blood.
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>>166427619
>Any deck
>Using Fangblade
What are you doing
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>>166427719
Reaper-San is strong!
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>>166427745
>watch and learn quest
wut
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>>166426849

When you get that quest, you gotta do it with the intention to meme, and meme hard.

This shit has 50% winrate in unranked and like 20% in ranked, but it's the funnest deck i've constructed yet.

Knowing that a tryharding netdecker nip just lost to this shit running Dragonsong,JO and Zirnitra is worth the lost brownie points in laddering

Just have fun with that quest bro. Just JO or Discard OTK and have a good time. Videogames are there to enjoy em
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>>166427596
>drops second bahamut
nice game retard
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There's a way to comunicate with SV devs?
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>>166427787
>Yes, that's what I'm implying.
>Can you prove otherwise?
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COMMENCE
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>>166427719
>>166427487
Feels like it happens a ton with dragon players too

>There's followers on the field that could possibly fuck your face
>Better play draconic fervor and pass
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>>166427841
i don't think they care of waitu piggu
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>>166427841
yes, talk your complains to a member of the yakuza and they will comunnicate it to cyjews.
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>>166427835
>>166427860

>dragonfags trying to prove that their class is anything but a meme

Here's a kicker. Bahamut is a neutral instead of a dragon legendary. Get cucked.
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>>166427878
kill yourself dub cuck
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>>166427808

He's a better DoD with the chance of leaving a minion with Bane behind.

If he doesn't dies instantly your enemy can say goodbye to any chance of developing his board in the next turn

He's 100% value
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>>166425001
More stories tho.

Earlier in the run I got wrecked by Jeno ramming into my dudes and the Knights getting storm from Arthurian Light.
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>>166428000
>8 pp
Yeah no
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>>166427927
they include dragonic fervor to face dragon and say stuff like "it's the best dragon card so no reason not to pick it" - literally an anon from the previous thread
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>>166428000
>Fangblade costs 8 and DoD costs 5.
If you're paying 3 extra, you better get that value. Cocytus need not apply.
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>>166427829

> Just have fun with that quest bro. Just JO or Discard OTK and have a good time.
> Videogames are there to enjoy em

Juan?
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I'm glad it's over
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>>166427841

You could try writing them a letter 1 post at a time in old 4chan fashion
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>>166428109
Congrats!
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>>166427981
いのちのひみつお?
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>>166428109
Welcome to the club.
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>>166428109

>sword, blood, haven and rune

Damn, you are a hell of a frankenstein monster. You disgust me.
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>>166428109
Grats time to meme up
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>>166428089

No
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>>166428186
>>166428231
>>166428243
Thank you!

>>166428239
I like to mix it up
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>>166428109
What deck did you play?
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>DE was banner meme and aggrobat
>RoB is Cblood and Sun Seraph

r8 me
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Nice Mordecai shadowfags. It would be a pity if someone rape of the ravens it.
>>
What are some good Youtube channels for this game I can sub to? I already have あぽろ.G as per /svg/ recommendation, but that's it.
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>>166428109
>wins 1160
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>>166428379
Exclusively Daria (starting AA03), save for one game with heavencraft for a mission.
.
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>>166428379
everything
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>>166427745
Go home Hearthbab
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I have to try it


shiiiieeeeeeeeeet
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>>166428550
kill yourself
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>Ain't no one gonna be the boss of me. I'm gonna live the way I like. God knows when I'm dead some necromancer will be working me to the bone. —A Young Man at the Tavern

>All you do is drink from morning till night, grumbling into your cups. You're like a living corpse. Why don't you try walking with your arms held straight out in front of you? Bet the look would suit you! —Barman at the Tavern

zombie actually has a fun flavor text
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>>166428639
What happened? Who won?
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>>166426720
Whatever you do dont fall for the ramp meme. Won more with face.
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>>166428487
Sadly, that's about it. Nobody beats him in both entertainment and as a way to learn more about the game.
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>>166428695
I FUCKING WON

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>166428771
Did you put down yours first?
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>>166428771
That's expected since it's your turn so your stuff goes off first.
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>>166428771

your last words / effects trigger first if during your turn

if he had played bahamut with that board state he would have won
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>>166428550
>>166428662
Not either guy but I lol'd.
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All the card games pass for this same situation senpaitachi.

The good news for SV is that they can change the cards instead of baning,powercreeping or rotating cards.

Stay strong no Haven is a ok craft now and shadow is playable.
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>>166428849
NO

it shouldn't have even mattered who put it down first, it was my turn meaning my glory be was summoned after his, at the beginning of my turn

and I still won

GLORY FUCKING BE

>>166428865
>>166428908
noice, where are these rules written
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January 16-22.

HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR
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>>166428537
some anon counted it the other day, 50000/1160 = ~43 points per win, if you win 100 and lose 100 it means you get 143 points for every 100 points of loss i.e. you win x1.43 games more than lose i.e. 1/1.43 = ~69% winrate

well the actual winrate is much lower of course because the score is generous but i don't see how 1160 is any bad
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>>166428986
>wildfate combo has higher winrate than discard dragon
L A M O
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>>166428684
How do you read token flavor text?
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>>166428639
How many Bahamut are you running?
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>>166429086
I could have probably done it much faster if I didn't meme at AA1 with JO crystal and get demoted back to AA0
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>>166429193
https://shadowverse-portal.com/cards

not sure if it can be done in-game
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>>166428986
I don't understand why people don't play aggro sword and shadow as much. I currently have a 65%+ win rate with both. I love playing them.
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Ding Dong Ding Dong
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>>166429086
Does it take into account the win streak bonus from when he was playing from Beginner to A?
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>>166429181
>9 mana card that requires a specific 3 mana card that does nothing on its own, a full hand, and actually surviving against an aggressive meta to turn 9, is bad
Who woulda thunk

They obviously knew it was a meme, and didn't give half of a fuck.
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>>166429250
Because people just look up 'what is best sv deck' and make Daria because everyone else plays her.
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Can duck do it?
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Aggro shadow have a better winrate than Daria and the sample size is actually good

Shadowcchilds?
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>>166429350
That's a big ding dong
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>>166429352
no, also you rarely gain 100 lose 100

his actual winrate is about 50-55% most likely
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>>166429193
Go to your card's collection and click on a card, then click the book to the left of vial icon.
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>>166429408
Too many people are trying to tech for Daria.
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>>166429250
Which decklist are you using?
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>>166428986
What's aggro runecraft? How is it different from Daria Tempo?
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>>166429367
Dragoon would be way too strong if he replinished your hand, but that would be a fun thing to see.
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I didn't realize aggro players were this retarded
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>>166428986
>Aggro sword
>Face sword
Wait what, what's the difference?
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>>166429216
just the one

and three themis' bro
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>>166429550
It needed to be 7 mana. A single mana over that cost for the current effect and stats is pure shit. It requires WAYYYY too much fucking set up for a card that doesn't outright win the game.
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>>166429650
Same as me, then.
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>>166429640
I think Aggro focuses more on 1 drops, just flooding the field with Quickblader turn 1, 2 1-drops turn 2, while playing stat boost cards.
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>TFW I die to turn 10 wildfang + AF + forte
i guess that's what you're supposed to do when you can't find your other combo pieces
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>>166425908
don't see what everyone's complaining about just themis it
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I'm playing full d-shift even with 20% of winrate against the ladder i can fuck all the cucks trying to counter Daria.


Thanks folks nothing is more easy than shitting in neph,csword,cbloo,dragon,seraph and everything with late game.
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lol
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>>166425908
>only losing half the time when you brick
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>>166430025
Ive thought about playing fortes. And realizing that you can play wildfang + altered fate + forte in the same turn makes me even more want to. My only problem is that it muddies draconic emissary targets. It already kind of sucks that its split between fervor and feena.
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>>166430050
>REEE STOP PLAYING CONTROL I'M TOTALLY NOT PLAYING DARIA YOU KEKS
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>>166430050
Daria looks so much cuter in her Dshift portrait than in her follower portrait.
The hat needs to go
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>>166429583
He's playing flowerbed, what did you expect.
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>>166429786
it doesn't feel like overkill honestly, I rarely brick and you can't have too much board clear these days. daria tears sustain me

plus it's kinda good to have another out for your glory be evidently, ive used it several times to blow it up and win though never with my opponent's seraph also on the board and usually just for bm
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Everybody laughs about dragon now. But next expansion dragon will be Daria tier 60% winrate

Screencap this
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>>166430521
I mean if you say this every expansion it has to be true eventually.
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>>166430237
>>166430050
>daria spell
>daria follower

just make her a leader too already so I can hate-fap the whole fucking match
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>>166430560
It's fucking dragon dude, no it doesn't.
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>>166430521
I wouldn't even be mad honestly.
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>>166430521
Wasn't Dragon strong in the very beginning?
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>>166430237
>He hates big hats
Fag
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>>166430625
Satan dragon and Satan haven were all the rage along with Sword and Dshift at the very start.

People kept complaining how dragon was too strong, how their ramp thing was bullshit and how they could easily throw down a 7 turn satan for the win. The meta was wards wards wards wards and it was horrible.
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>tfw trail of light into sorcery cache into angelic snipe
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>>166430237
Where's the guy that pay a milf to fuck in cosplay like using a witch hat?
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>>166429086
I was joking, but does that mean under 1k is above average?
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I hate how Arisa doesn't have a proper gg emote.
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>>166430805
I don't really like Daria at all but that sounds pretty hot
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>>166430563
>no daria amulet

>At the end of your turn, spellboost all cards in your hand one time
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>>166430769
More wards the better
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>>166430909
more like

>At the end of your turn, draw a card and spellboost it twice
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>>166430868
I lost the pics but he shared some hot stuff of the whore they are kinda friends.

seems great to have a average income to fuck bitches.
>>
DARIA ______
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>>166430946
I'm glad that cancer meta is gone

Wards/Heal meta is the worst and control players are the worst. Its especially amusing when they cry about how everything faster than them is cancer because they dont get to use their absolutely no fun allowed lategame cards.
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>>166430050
What the hell? I didn't know that Daria was the Dshift girl. Wow i must be pretty slow
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>>166431032
She wants the Blade Mage D,
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>>166430909
>>166431006
Amulet daria will be dirt support a fuckign wincon or something to stop aggro.


You guys need know rune is the anti-fun craft
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>>166431032
BRICKS 900% OF THE TIME
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>>166431048
So you're saying high PP cards should never be viable outside of arena?
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So when are we getting new leaders? I'd actually play Rune if I could play as pic related.
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>>166431032
how often are you daria shitters forced to discard one of them to play another? honest question
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"""Healthy""" """""metagame"""""
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>>166431132
>Stopping aggro
>Ever

Next expansion will support aggro even more
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>>166431032
>DARIA DOESN'T BRICK I SWEAR
>YOU DON'T AUTOMATICALLY LOSE IF YOU DRAW ALL 3 DARIA WITHOUT SPELLBOOST
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Have you bullied your daily witch /svg/?
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so was that "leak" about cygames planning to nerf daria in february fake?
>>
>Playing Arena
>Turn 1 Angelic Strike to face
What the hell were they hoping to accomplish with this? They keep doing it and they never win when they do.
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>>166431276
>everyone around 10% but rune

seems fine
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>>166431094
only one of the three can get it and the guy is very reluctant anyway
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>>166431242
I would be fucking pissed if Rune got a leader as cute as Cag, because then I wouldn't be able to justify my irrational hatred of them.
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>>166431132
>Amulet Daria
>Once per turn, you can perform an Earthrite without destroying a sigil
Also make it 3pp and a silver.
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>>166431324
Several.
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>>166431335
What, the same 'leak' that said they didn't expect Roach combo to be so strong when Gobu and Feena were practically made for the deck?
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>>166431324
>Unga blood

kys cancer
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>>166431389
>seems fine
it would be, if rune didn't exist
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>>166431452
Someone has to be the best
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>>166431324
shoved my rock hard themis right up her ass
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>>166431270
I haven't empirically come up with a number but I would say about 20% of the time I summon her that happens.
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>>166431445
yeah that one, im hoping it was real
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>>166431335
where do you find those leaks?
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>>166431276
>Not pictured: Aggro blood, aggro forest, aggro shadow, aggro sword that all play the same with different leaders
>Also not pictured: Daria, D-shift, and dirt rune which are all unique from each other
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>>166431446

Unga bungalow easy w
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>>166431276
So basically, everyone else in the game is collectively trying to beat Rune the best they can. Such union!
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>>166431276
it's strong and it has several powerful archetypes

fucking deal with it I've been shitting on rune like 70% of the time
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>>166431509

Not that best though
>>
500 wins at AA1, feels good man

And I managed to stop my ladder anxiety today, a very good day
>>
I wanna be Vampy-chan's familiar
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>>166431446
>tier 2 deck
>cancer
kys shitter
>>
>>166431626
a new pic where all the girls including iris kick isabelle and chant "away with dorothy" when
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>>166431642
By what arbitrary measurement do we determine how much best is best
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>>166431693
https://imgur.com/a/yeO2A
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>>166431276
is this new? rune got even fucking bigger
>>
>>166431693
do cats eat bats

>>166431446
so mad about a tier 2 deck :^)
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>>166431850
Some people are mad about Elana a fucking tier 3 deck
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>>166431547
good, get fucked
>>
>>166431435
>Daria the Dimensional Alchemist
Amulet
Summon: spellboost amount of guardian golems until your board is filled
Summon a guardian golem everytime a spot in your board is open until spellboost is depleted
Earthrite: Immune to spells
>>
>Just got memed by double evo Forte into some other follower that has storm
And people say Dragon is bad
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>>166431985
fanfare: win the game
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>>166431907
It's just PTSD from DE.
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>>166432092
elana into pegasus sculpture is pretty gay man
>>
What should I mulligan for in Seraph?
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>>166432149
>pegaslow sculpture
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>>166432179
triple seraph of course, it's your wincon
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>>166432149
its also slow as fuck
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>>166432179
mulligan for a noose so you can kill yourself when your opponent has odin
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>>166432179
seraphs
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>>166432092
It wasn't even remarkably strong in DE. It was tier 2.
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>>166432179
curve, you will draw seraph before turn 8 no worries
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>>166432270
odin isn't even that bad unless they run three

no guarantee he has it when he needs it, and the first seraph is just odin bait anyway. second one gets dogma/dogma/prayered on my next turn anyway
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>>166431509
That would be Arisa
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>>166432281
>>166432270
>>166432215

Now I remember why I come to this general
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>>166432326
it was just annoying as fuck, like playing against dirt rune's ward spam
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>>166432179
you have 7 turns to draw it bro
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>>166432407
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>>166432407
I disagree
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>>166432179
Mulligan for shit you can actually use to not die until you get your 8pp do nothing out.
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>>166432390
if the opponent has odin you won't have time to play another seraph unless they're retarded and haven't been applying enough pressure
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>>166432326
It was the Daria of DE, as in it was the deck that all bandwagoners jumped on and plagued the ladder. It's left for dead now that they switched to the new FOTM Daria.
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>>166432179
a new deck
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>>166432551
only if you play seraph with literally no board control yourself

panically playing seraph on turn 8 if you have the ability to control the board instead is just inviting the obvious. I dont even really play it unless I already have 1 or 2 countdown reducers in hand
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>>166432326
>It wasn't even remarkably strong in DE. It was tier 2.
elana seraph was tier 1 you fucking mongoloid
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>tfw no more ladder anxiety
I can't believe how good it feels to spam 4 hours of games without wanting to stop
>>
>>166432884
I've been spamming games hardcore but I plan on taking a break to play fun decks when I get to AA0

After that I'll try to make the push to masters which is going to suck
>>
>>166432824
Havenfags think they're oppressed, leave them be
>>
When DE was launched ?
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56587

Someone play with me
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>>166432994
I feel you man.

I didn't stop to meme a bit in AA0 and now I'm in AA1 and I don't want to go back. I'm still doing 800-900 points per day so it's alright for now.
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I love pure grinder games. Neither of us bothered to do anything until turn 4.
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where do I check the score rewards? google just gives me plebbit results
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>>166432786
If the first seraph gets odin'd, there should no longer be an opportunity for the second seraph to be played safely. This is because it's impossible to clean the board and play seraph at the same time. Many crafts can threaten lethal damage even if they only have 4-10 damage on the board.
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>>166433348
In the main menu:

Home => Mission => Score Rewards
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>>166433362
I just played a game against forestcraft where I won with my second seraph and I think forestcraft is fairly well known for otk. The odin is hard to beat but it is not the end.
>>
>>166433447
Depends on the forest deck. Silver bolt takes a long time to set up, so it's fairly easy to lose to seraph, especially since you can banish his wolf. Couldn't have been roach, they don't run odin.
>>
>Rune covering 30% of the meta

Daily reminder that at the end of the season, Cygames will spout the same "all classes and decks played at equal amount" bullshit.

It happened back at DE. It will happen again.
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>>166433583
IIRC at the end of DE, the most played craft had 21%, and the lowest 7%.
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>>166433564
Everyone and their mother runs odin these days.
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where were you when aggro bats were put to tier 3

aggro shadow is t1 btw :^)

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/meta-deck-analytics-january-16-22
>>
>>166433583
Reminder same people that use this pasta are shitters complaining about Elana even when sword was the biggest threat in DE.
>>
heavenly pupper or temple defender?
>>
Tsubaki sucks as a legendary.

Prove me wrong.
>>
sorry, a wrong link

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/tier-list
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>>166433717
What did cygames mean by this?
>>
>>166433821
>sword was the biggest threat in DE.
This is my favorite meme desu
>>
>>166433920
>hard removal
>4 3 body
>can't be targeted
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>>166433920
i can't think of any reasons to use her over odin as long as seraphshitters exist

i guess if you want the ambush to help with albert shenanigans
>>
>>166433920
A 6-mana Dance of Death that leaves a 4/3 ambush body sucks a lot, yep.

You shouldn't run her at all, Dance of Death is much better, it's 5 mana instead of 6. Right?
>>
>vs T2 Swordcraft deck with Front Lines

Jesus that got scary fast
>>
>>166434038
I didn't know DoD could only target things above 5 attack
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>>166433362
odin is 8 mana himself. you have to already have some sort of a board, whether it's beastcall aria triggering the next turn or something with like 2 or 3 attack.

>turn 8
>seraph
>he odins it
>maybe evolves to make it more scary, hardly always though
>turn 9
>kill odin with either something you got on the board or in combination with blackened scripture that leaves you with 7 mana to control the board more, or if you didn't use scripture, another seraph
>plsnosecondodin.jpg
>turn 10
>seraph or dogma dogma dogma/prayer on your existing seraph

move everything forward a turn i.e. first seraph turn 9 and it's even better, you can scripture his ass and play second seraph on 10

if he drops a second odin though you just emote unbelievable and concede. might even be able to win with neutral win con sometimes though probably only against turbo shitters
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also

that's how they call our jo dragon

"Sssss! Have they ever called me that?"
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>>166432884
>Spam 4 hours of games
>Get angrier as I play
>Continue playing anyways
I feel rage is a great way to cure ladder anxiety
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Guys question, should I dust Eidoloon, Fafnir and Pluto?
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>>166433407
Oh

I saw that before but it didn't register
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>>166434038
Have you forgotten Giant Slayer? That 3PP spell that nobody uses. Yeah.
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>>166434229
bro cum = candle wax = burn

jps have these weird fetish
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>>166433920
well she gets to kill daria at least
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84664

concede or play it out, depending on what you need
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MEMES
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>>166434242
>that game where I decided to trade instead of face and I'm 1 damage off lethal 2 turns later
>rage like an autistic cunt
>queue up another game in the same breath
The best feeling in the world. I would have stopped before.
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>>166434604
The madman
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>>166434038
Make her 5PP then I'll agree she's better.
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>>166434501
thanks elf
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>>166434653
Also random face burn because balance
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>>166434604
How shook were you.
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>>166434604
Marisa and Reimu combo!
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>>166434205
>you have to already have some sort of a board
if you have a board when your opponent's turn ends, they're ridiculously dumb or drew horribly

>beastcall aria triggering the next turn
nobody runs beastcall aria because the abundance of runeshitters are running kaleido

>maybe evolves to make it more scary
are you fighting D rank players who evolve things they just played despite having nothing to attack?

>kill odin with either something you got on the board
again, there's no way you have a board unless your opponent is ridiculously passive, in which case they're dumb. they should be playing things every turn and dealing with your dinky followers, so that you can never play seraph on a favorable board

>seraph or dogma dogma dogma/prayer on your existing seraph
what is this world you live in where your opponent just watches you do things rather than applying enough board pressure to prevent you from doing them
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H-HEAR THE
>>
DRAGON ROAR
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>>166434707
Nice emblem
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>>166434941

>runeshitters

Man, playing as Earth Rune against that last Sun Hag was delicious.
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>2 legendaries in 2 packs
>both Beast Dominator

thanks for the vials, I guess
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>>166424727
>3 Altered Fates
You will learn in time
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>>166435041
Yeah when they can't actually lose beucase the deck can't win and you need to draw all your three petrify
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>>166434941
>>
Someone have full Daria card art? Want to make an edit with it.
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>que up a game to meme it up with wildfate combo
>lose of course
>Rank lost!
>Accidentally picked ranked
FUCK
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>>166435132
fukken saved
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>>166435132
you're right let me just write a paragraph and hope he knows what parts of his post i'm referring to

that definitely doesn't lead to unneeded confusion
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>>166434965
>>166435007
>otk dragon
>15 cards left in deck
>still haven't drawn a single altered fate
>but have a full hand so I just taunted the opponent
>he retired
HEAR THE DRAGON ROAR
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>>166434965
>>166435007
Goblin mage is a pretty good card, but were they aware how many 2 drops you can build your deck around and how you're essentially running 6 copies of them?
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>>166435453
It would have been pointless if it couldn't be built around. I'm sure they were well aware. To be honest it feels like there's less than there should be.
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>>166435493
Oh, Luna. You're all dirty now, we'll have to take a bath together.
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>>166435493
Why is it always Luna with the carrots?
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>>166435132
>"4chan" post has reddit spacing
>"reddit" post doesn't
really makes you think
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>>166435493
This is goddamn adorable. As expected of Luna.
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>>166435551
Last Word craft, mini-"mordecai"
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>>166435551
i saw an aggro bat deck with khaiza on game-ai :3

that's silly of course
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Playing with haven is like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rxl5KsPjs
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>>166434941
what kind of shitter plays seraph and completely gives up board control the entire game, especially before seraph time, just so he can play odin's bitch? lol

the whole deck is designed to have board control so that you can play seraph without just hoping he doesn't have odin, that's fucking retarded. you need to play it so that he's forced to give up an 8pp turn to destroy your big scary statue. he's going to evo it if he can to deal with your board, but it doesn't matter since unless he attacks a 1 attack follower he's a scripture target next turn anyway

have you ever played seraph or are you just talking out of your ass

>my entire wincon is dependent on me hoping he doesn't have odin at the right time

retard
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>>166435132
That would work if the person you're replying to wasn't a spastic fuck. If they're making five different half-formed points in a single spiel they'll just cherry pick a part of your argument that was obviously meant for one assertion and straw-man it to apply to something else.
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>>166435852
is custom maid? i'm acutally downloading that can you share the files?
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>>166435646
My daughter sure is cute.
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>>166434965
>>166435007
>grim reaper
Does that actually work? Post dick.
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>>166433806
where it fucking belongs
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does this pre-historic netdeck from de still work?
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Guys, haven't played in like a month, is Daria still auto-win cancer?
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>>166436124
No, the deck got demoted to tier 3 like all of the Daria players predicted.
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>>166424470
I really don't get why people fight over dub/undub of this game instead of just playing without any sound and having something else playing like a normal human being.
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>>166436310
Welcome to the internet, I would recommend you to watch evangelion and naruto so you can discuss with the cool kids.
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>>166436061
the less people play aggro blood the better for those who play aggro blood :3

too bad gamewith still lists it as t1 in their most recent stuff from 24th ><

>>166436124
yeah

>>166436310
>instead of just playing without any sound
was with you till you haven't ruined it all with

>and having something else playing
listening to music
what a pleb
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>>166435716
unless your opponent is playing the most passive deck in the world like ptp, they should not be losing out on the board, it should be even at worst

if the opponent has odin for the first seraph, there should never be an opportunity to play the second seraph, because you can't clear the board and play seraph at the same time

if the board isn't clean, there's a good chance of dying the moment you play your 8 mana do nothing card

sword has albert for a surprise 6/10 damage, dragon has forte, blood has bloody mary combos or temptress, etc

sure there are exceptions, like control/nep shadow don't have much in the way of burst damage, but most control decks can muster enough pressure to shut down any hope of playing seraph #2
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>>166436405
>naruto and eva in the same breath

apply yourself
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>>166432884
Don't know why people get ladder anxiety anyway. You're going to see the same netdecks in unranked anyway, you might as well get score rewards for your wins.
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>>166436310
Because then I can't hear the cute voices.
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>>166436310
Playing with sound lets me know what is happening while I alt-tab during the opponent's turn.
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Need a concede please.

33154
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>>166436537
petition a "flash application on taskbar" feature so you won't need that anymore.
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>>166436576
Thank Dragonflute
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>>166435676
I'm pretty sure game-ai is the Gamepress of JP at this point.
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>>166436730
oh, wait, i think it was on gamepress, sorry

i agree that those sites don't differ much though
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>>166435713
Playing Garuda Storm Haven is like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89jOPAGJq-M
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>>166435852
This reminds of that Maki rape sim
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Newfag here, how the fuck do you even beat daria. I'm b1 and face against daria most of time(and lose), what should I play?
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>>166436916
I love this artist
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>>166436953
Just themis dude
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>>166436916
more like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8
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>>166436438
why are you assuming seraph will necessarily have weaker board control when there's no fucking point to playing the deck unless you can control the board til turn 8? you think people just fish with prism priestess, themis the board and heal until they can spit out their invincible wincon? what kind of strategy is that?
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>>166436953
just concede to daria so she is nerfed soon
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>>166436953
its tier 1 for a reason, you have a slight chance if going second since daria tends up to use up their hand really fast
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>>166436493
You don't want to lose your points so you don't want to play.

Here's what happened to me
>climbing easily with bats
>suddenly im not
>despair and doubt, im on the verge of crafting darias
>say fuck it and spam bats again to see if it's really over
>it's not and i'm free of my anxiety all of a sudden

Daria literally helped me fix this bullshit anxiety. Thanks Daria.
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>>166436953
Just Themis it bro
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>>166436953
Cblood but the deck cost 40k of vials and is only good against aggro decks.
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>>166437086
that's literally all they can do, because most of their hand is seraph and countdown reduction

i don't know what crazy follower-heavy seraph decks you're playing, but keeping the board even is the best they can manage
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>>166436953
You either play an aggro deck and kill her fast or play a control deck with lots of board clears and maybe some heals. But even then she can just murder you anyways if she goes second/curves perfectly.
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>>166436036
It doesnt really work desu. I never draw it when i need it. I didnt want to use goblin mount since it mess up the pull, but there is no other strong ward below 4 beside shield angel.
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>>166437190
cblood literally only counters bats
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>>166436953
Control decks supposedly have a good winrate against them (stuff like Seraph Haven or Control sword). In my experience, extremely fast aggressive decks actually kill them quite cleanly a good majority of the time in A, so I'm sure it should still mostly be the same in B. The idea is that you're so low to ground and take advantage of how Daria starts the game (usually insight/snipe > golem/craig > turn 3) which gives you a good few turns for unchallenged face damage, and by their critical turns come around they have to focus on cleaning your board. Sword is a little better since kaleidoscope is worse against them but imo snipe is better against them than it is against blood. which trades with bats which are basically half a card leaving 1 point of damage on board or wolf which has storm and has already smacked them in the face once anyway, whereas it eats blader whose 1 is a lot less impactful than wolf's 2 and palace fencer which I guess is not a staple but eh. Centaur too who won't always get to hit face like wolf does
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>>166436916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X9LvC9WkkQ

Haven is symphony the craft
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>>166437296
I tried goblin mount, it saved me a couple of times even if it messes up the pull cause you want to draw the mount over fervor against aggro. But they can still power through the goblin mount if they already have enough followers on board or dod then you might as well have drawn fervor.
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guise, what's better

3 imp lancers 2 storm

2 imp lancers 2 storm

3 imp lancers 1 storm

?

>>166437174
>on the verge of crafting darias
the problem with crafting darias that they will likely nerf levi and piercing rune instead

>>166437148
it's a broken shit, not t1
t1 should have counters and counterplay
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>>166437194
that's dumb as shit. I don't have particularly strong followers or even a shit ton of them, I just don't play seraph as my only out if I can control the board otherwise

I just won a match where I had seraph on turn 8 and instead cleared the board and played small followers until turn 10 when I had a comfortable enough position to play seraph.
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>7 cards left in my deck
>all three PtPs are there
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>>166437435
>t1 should have counters and counterplay
well they dont you autistic shit
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>>166437314
better now than ever the only problem is how the list differ for everyone
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>>166437509
then it's t0 and should be nerfed
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>Third game in a row going first as Daria.
Fuck you too, game.
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>>166437382
Obligatory bloodcraft:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9rZjlsyYY
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>>166437435
>the problem with crafting darias that they will likely nerf levi and piercing rune instead
I'm aware of that. Daria could use a 1 mana nerf but they'll most likely leave her alone and touch the cards you mentioned.
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>>166437435
I play 3 lancers 1 storm since I think D or something and its been working good for me but I couldn't give you any explanation for why it's better. As a general rule I guess I'd say I'd rather cast Lancer most of the time than Storm which is more dependant on board state if it doesn't outright win, and can be evolved to smack for 5 instead of 3. But winning past wards is a thing so I can see the flip side. I don't think I'd play 3/2 though just because that adds more high drops.
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>>166437548
stop replying to me
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>>166437449
your opponent doesn't have a bunch of useless countdown reduction cards, so there shouldn't be a comfortable position to play seraph. only exception is if you got a ton of card draw and they, well, didn't

they're generally going to have more removal / followers than you do, and thus keeping it even with themis is the best you can hope for
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>>166437557
>Daria shitters complaining about anything
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Will dragon ever not suck?
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>>166437619
Reminds me of the time they actually nerfed cards. Glad they didn't nerf PtP directly.
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>>166437691
Travel back in time
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>>166437665
>Play Daria
>Get Themis'd
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>they create a lot of cheap amulet removal
>dire bond,ptp,banner and all every amulet is unplayable
>since haven key is amulet and removal you don't even touch this craft
Why everyone want create new ways to fuck haven fail?

>>166437603
You make me giggle
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>>166437648
again, nice assumptions. I don't know what kind of seraph deck you run but it sounds shit if you're banking everything on seraph and cd reduction
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>>166437316
>control sword
Control sword is good against aggro. It has almost nothing it can do against Daria. Lacks healing and AoE to deal with the massive swing turns. They gained Cyclone Blade but it's not reliable enough that you'll have something big on board to target or the mana to play it. As control sword I basically just found myself praying they didn't have answers to Frontguard or that I'd survive long enough to play Bahamut.

Seraph is easily the best answer to Daria, I'd say. Healing for the spell pings and Themis for the board swings.
I don't have experience with it but Control Blood seems like it'd work fine. Revelation and plenty of healing options.
I've mostly been playing Earth Rite and that works well too now they the deck has better options. Calamitous deals with swing turns, Veteran Alchemist gives you good heals, general ward spam keeps you save from chip hits here and there, and Professor of Taboo and Erasmus both provide strong 2-for-1s
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>>166437557
>complaining while playing Daria
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>>166437762
ptp is already unplayable
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>Play Arena
>Dragon, blood, forest
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>>166437842
good riddance
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>>166437782
The key to beat daria is survive piercci+levi if you mitigate this then removal everything you should be fine
>>166437842
not really one winner of a tourney this month was PtP elf.
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>>166437774
i don't have a seraph deck, this is just based on all of my encounters against it

no matter what control deck i'm playing, applying so much pressure that they're reluctant to play seraph is my strategy, and it works
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what beats daria?

And are there any good shadow decks right now?
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>>166437782
>Seraph is easily the best answer to Daria
Seraph will never be reliable to deal with Daria though. Rune has Petrification, so if the deck starts becoming relevant because of its good match up they can just say "fuck you" to all Seraphs and kill that DE meta deck as well.
I'd say the only reliable anti-Daria deck is Control Blood.
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>>166437648
Seraph always has 7+ cards in hand. having just 3-4 removals and followers in your hand is more than enough to control the board. Your opponent may have 5 more playable cards than you but that doesn't matter at all if they can't play more cards per turn than you.
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>>166437695
I wasn't playing when PTP forest was the top deck, but when I see all the crafts trying to play PTP, I'm glad they didn't nerf it. The card seems fine and interesting to build around.

Cygames know what they're doing. With all the Daria bullshit, I'm quite doubtful of it now, but if they nerf Daria before the next exp, that'll restore my faith in them.
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>>166437948
>And are there any good shadow decks right now?
aggro
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>>166437842
>tfw memed back to back by ptp yesterday in unranked when playing nep
>Forest PtP
>Dirtrune PtP
>MOTHERFUCKING Shadow Midnight Haunt PtP
YAMEROOOOO
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>>166437948
Control decks, especially Control Blood.

Yes, Aggro Shadow. It's the only Shadow deck with a >50% winrate.
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>>166437948
>what beats daria?
my dick
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>>166437948
>what beats daria?
Praying to the Seraph that she bricks.
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>>166437938
>Disregard all my opinions
Why didn't you just say so from the beginning?
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>>166437948
Shadow have the best removal of the game now.
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>>166437859
>play arena
>opponent drops bahamut on 10
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>tfw scripture both of his water fairies

stupid elf
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>>166437062
I was keeping to the theme, anon.


Daria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pdJRPuoT8g

It's a bunch of disjointed unreliable shit but it somehow ends upworking.
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>>166438181
>wasting a good removal on a 1/1
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Why /svg/ don't advice people to spend rupies in Arena anymore?
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>>166438000
the only time seraph always has 7+ cards is if they got a ton of card draw, which i mentioned as an exception

the problem with your opponent having more playable cards is that they won't run out of steam unlike you, and at this point you can't do much other than play seraph and hope it works

>>166438158
>you're not allowed to have opinions on a deck unless you personally play it
what
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>>166438290
RoB made arena stupid
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>>166438290
Because Arena is nothing but frustration, even if you can average 3 wins.
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>>166438212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28sdV_DXSrU

So this is luna theme?
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>>166437938
if I can't control the board, I lose anyway, odin or no odin. seraph isn't going to save me if I'm dying to aggro or their win con
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>>166438267
what else would you use scripture vs forest though

it robs arisa of 2 fairies to charge the roach/hold the board with
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>>166438290
You could be a pretty good player and still go 2-3 because your opponents drafted bahamut or olivia.
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>>166438290
Arena RoB is better but everyone want to use sword for the easy wins
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>>166438290
>Play Arena
>Get Bahamut'd
That card is obnoxious even if I can average 3-4 wins all the time
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>>166437859

Forest is pretty good if you manage to draft some generator, yuel and archer.
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Good night, /svg/.
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>>166438290
I do every time a new player asks what to do.

But it's probably a bad advice now, when you see the powerlevel of RoB cards, not spending your gold in RoB packs might be a bad idea.
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>>166438297
Spoken like a true non-seraph player. Like I said, seraph have 7+ cards 100% of the time, whether they are losing or winning. All their cards are draw x cards except for removals.

What the fuck do you mean run out of steam? Why would seraph need steam? If they don't draw seraph by the time its playable they usually lose that game anyway.
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>haven't gotten a legendary in 16 packs

Fuck cygames if i don't get one by tomorrow i fucking quit.
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>>166438415
controlling the board is doable, but having a board advantage is not, is what i'm getting at

there's never a safe spot to play seraph unless they lose board advantage and then somehow fail to get it back. if they play odin on your seraph while you don't have board advantage, it's pretty much curtains
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>>166438529
bloodkin~
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>>166438290
see

>DE
wah wah olivia is unfair
>RoB
wah wah bahamut

Arena is not about drafting a good curve with sword anymore
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>>166438594
Quit when you don't get any from your free survey packs
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Anyone want to help me with achievement duels?

I can concede or let you win after if you let me know somehow, or just stay in match after
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Nite darogon-sans
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>>166438568
at some point a seraph deck will have no choice but to play seraph even if they're losing on the board. this is due to having fewer "playable" cards than their opponent.

this is the downside to having 8pp-do-nothing cards and a boatload of countdown reduction in your deck.

once you play seraph because you no longer have the means to deal with the opponent's board, it's quite likely that you just lose
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>>166438594
>16
Thats not even a lot. I haven''t gotten a legendary in 30 packs.
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>>166438818
I forgot to post the match code... 74913
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Would you play a video game set in the RoB/Shadowverse universe that played like a Soulsborne?
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>>166438704
free survey packs delivered when

>>166438818
winning or losing in those doesn't matter but they should be played vs 20 different persons without either one conceding
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>>166436916
this is the real stormhaven song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dypB5rRKoes
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Are there any written guides on how to play roach OTK, I don't want to sit through watching hours of streams.
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Why is fucking Dwarf Alchemist 3/3 on evolve, but Vampy and Levi are 4/4?
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>>166438372
I'm down for that. Might be a bit too solemn for her constant adventure, though. Danse Macabre could work as well.

Don't forget Roach though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS91p-vmSf0
>"Holy shit dad he's playing OTK roach watch out"
>"No he's not, he's just collecting 0 cost faeries, I don't see any roaches"
>"DAD HE PLAYED GOBU GOBU, HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE HIM PLAYING ROACH"
>"Don't worry son, we're about to reach our win condition!"
>Omae wa mou shindeiru
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>>166438973
nobody is joining ;_;
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>>166438618
never is a strong word

I can usually comfortably rely on being able to evo some small shitter, or have tribunal trigger, or themis him with little cards in his hand leading to a weak late turn, or scripture on turn ten to play seraph in a decent position. really doesn't have to be turn 8

it doesn't need to be fully clean, but you can't play themis in a wholly disadvantaged position unless you want odin to be the game decider
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>>166439021
jerk off to "goblin mage x roach" porn for 6-10 turns and then kill your opponent
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Sun Satan good or am I better at sticking with Seraph?
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>>166439116
I will sleep tomorrow if you are around here just post again
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>>166439185
Seraph with sun tech
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>Go first as Daria.
>Lose.
>Go second as Daria.
>Win.
Really makes you Insight
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>>166439150
>you cant play themis

meant seraph
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>>166439185
I'm using that Masters list, feels bretty gud. But I am an A3 shitter so whatever
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>>166439185
I like seraph with sun
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>friend gets me into the game because i got bored of legend grinding in hs
>make bloodcraft aggro deck
>turns out its 90 percent similar to the current netdeck

im essentially playing zoolock whats even happening, people are abandoning the moment i play yurius on curve
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>>166439209
Post your list
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30444

Looking for a concede, if you stay afterward I'll concede to you too.
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>>166438876
>At some point seraph needs to play their win con
>At some point dshift have to play their win con
>At some point roach otk have to play their win con
Wow almost like they're combo decks or something. That's not a characteristic of seraph, it's a characteristic of combo and the only reason ladder isn't infested with otks.
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>>166438529
sleep tight, bloodkin
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Guys what does Insight do?
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>>166439341
Thanks M U
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>>166439079
Dwarf Alchemist has both fanfare and evolution effects, while Vampy and Levi have evolution effects but no fanfares, alternatively, they both are golds and the other one is only a silver with 2 effects, add the +2/+2 and it would be pretty fucking ridiculous (see khawy)
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>>166439314
Playing Yulius turn 2 going first is dangerously close to autowin against certain decks, even closer if you follow it up with a second. It won't actually win you the game but it'll put you so far head in terms of momentum just on free damage and forcing trades and removal on him all at once. You have to use your own followers and removal to protect him pre-evolve turn but it's worth 2-3 extra damage plus the 1 or 2 damage he's doing himself which out damages the razory by itself for example
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>>166439464
it really makes you think
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>there are people here right now who hasn't master "Sun Satan Seraph Elana Storm Haven".

You heal, ward, have storm damage reach and 2 other wincon. S m h t b q f h
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>>166439464
Always appear in a Daria deck Turn 1
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>>166439464
Really spellboosts your oglers
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>>166439464
You can play Insight, it allows you to draw two more cards from your deck.

It also gives you eyes on the inside and makes you take more frenzy damage.
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>>166439321
You can add another Unica by removing something or remove her for another tribunal or Sister if you want. 1 is kind of awkward but I was getting frustrated with a bad string of aggro match ups.

3 seraph not pictured.
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>>166439654
GET RID OF THAT ONE ANIMATED THEMIS RIGHT NOW

FUCK
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>>166439464
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>>166439150
you can't just wait for your opponent to run out of things to play, because they won't, no matter how many times you wipe up their board

the only exception to this is if they overextend and lose too many resources to a themis

at some point you need to play the seraph because you ran out of ways to clean the board and no longer have a choice. once this happens, odin wins
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>>166439541
Yeah, I only started playing yesterday and I understand that hes a good card.

Even though health isnt as much of a "i dont care how much i have because people can 1 shot me with almost any deck" resource in this do people just not want to lose any health trying to remove him?

Then again i cant really talk about this shit because im not out of D yet
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>>166439794
assumptions, again

whatever mang
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>>166439798
There aren't many ways to cleanly deal with him, especially when you go 1st and play it. It gets even harder to deal with if you play a Veight or even another one the next turn.
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Can't even get a gold from packs
JUST
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>>166439798
It's an aggro deck, normally health is more expendable but for a card in an aggro deck to actually cost the opponent health to remove makes a big difference.
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>>166439714
Just wait til I get my first animated tribunal or Lion Spirit.
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>>166438290
probably because this is RoB meta and standard packs are beyond outdated

maybe when they swap the packs out
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>>166439798
Getting over a 1/3, let alone multiple 1/3's, before turn 4 is hard for most decks without blowing a lot of cards. It'd be one thing if you could ignore it until a good time came around (like sandstorm dragon) but the effect on him means that for most every deck he can't be put off or ignored if you don't want to lose 4-7+ hp by the time everything is said and done.

Some people don't want to deal with that shit.
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>>166439971
leper gnome
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>>166439090
stop posting this garbage fan art
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>>166440098
I recently switched back to my desktop since I finally got around to shipping it to my new place. I didn't have any other relevant forestcraft pictures on hand. Post elf and maybe I'll have something else next time.
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>>166439079
vampy is barely better than lyriel which is a neutral silver card... lyriel is better for trading too

levy is overstatted though
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Okay what's the catch?
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Tyrant deck 9-1 in unranked so far, and the 1 loss was because titty monster played daria turn 4. Is it ready for AA1 ranked yet?

3 tyrants far right
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>>166440308
Sun Satan is the anti-meta deck. Guardian Sun fucks with OTK roach, Haven in general fucks with Daria and Aggro bat because board clears and annoying taunts.
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>>166439971
>for a card in an aggro deck to actually cost the opponent health to remove makes a big difference
are you talking about rabbit necromancer
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>>166440308
WARDS LOTS OF WARDS OH AND HEALING
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>>166440308
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>>166439521
Vampy has an effect besides the evo one, so that's pointless. Also, Levi is ridiculous already.
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>>166440308
It will go back to sucking if aggro meta dies.
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>>166440525
>13.2%
wew
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>>166440353
I don't believe you, post match history or it didn't happen
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>>166440525
Okay never mind
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>>166440616
Is there a worse matchup in the game?
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>>166440037
that's rabbit necromancer, not yurius

backstreet leper though, not leper gnome, only slightly better statted, she is 3/2 for 3pp not 3/1 for 3pp and deals 2 damage to the leader on death
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You guys don't appreciate the effort it takes to correctly pilot Daria. While most decks get to just mindlessly slam cards down on curve, our cards are constantly changing in price. We have to think of the best order to play everything in order to maximize our board every turn. We also only have one storm minion (unlike sword and blood). This, plus the fact that we're always flooding the board makes us really vulnerable to sweeps. When playing long games with control we often play so many followers that our decks run out of cards. We also have to be super careful with our mulligans. Our cards like Daria and Levi are too powerful and drawing too many at once is bad. We also usually discard a lot of great cards to Daria. The worst thing is probably how popular the deck is. You get so many mirror matches where it's entirely based on who bricks. Yes, we brick just like any other deck! So please stop picking on best grill Daria and git gud
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New single-player content when?
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>>166440353
>>166440679
I lost 1 more...
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>>166440749
>takes effort to pilot daria
I stopped there, nice b8.
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>>166440749
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>/svg/ gets literally triggered by Daria
>/svg/ also refuses to change their decks and just screams for a nerf
>Instead I just take advantage and my win streaks grow larger every time
>/svg/ will antagonize for it because I literally trigger them

???
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Got these after spending all the initial stuff, then I heard about rerolling.
I guess Cerberus sees play, but I don't feel like launching of a diffrent steam account, so I'm stuck anyway.
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Do you get the animated story mission 4-drops for free too later?
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>>166440745
was moreso comparing due to the "take 2-4 damage depending on your removal type, more if you cant remove him instantly"

leper pretty much carried those decks until nerf
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>>166441073
You can reroll on an emulator and then link it to your steam account
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>>166441073
Sahquiel + Lucifer is pretty solid, though.
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I want to fuck daria so bad

goodnight /svg/
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>>166441073
Do you have a phone? You can use that or an emulator to reroll before linking.

Still, you see worse rolls.
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>>166441073
Nigga you're supposed to re-roll on the mobile phone before linking it to steam.
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>>166441021
>Disaster witch daria

Isnt that shit
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>>166441021
nobody is refusing to change their decks

everybody is changing their decks and it's not fucking working because daria is bullshit
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>>166441073
You got enough to make aggro shadow. It's a great deck.
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How do we balance Daria?
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>>166441021
I don't mind Daria being OP, it isn't an annoying deck to play against. It's very strong, but it isn't annoying as dirt rune, dshift or a haven deck.

Keep grinding anon.
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>>166441335
piercing rune is only 1 mana if there's an evolved follower on-board
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>>166437627
i just have checked 9 decks on gamepress from tourneys and different sites and simply some weird stuff

one of them was 3/1, one - 3/0, one - 2/2, four - pure 3/2, one - alucard and 2/2 (basically 3/2 with alukard instead of one lancer) and one 3 imp lancers and 2 matriarchs instead of storms

huh, i guess 3/2 is popular

i dunno how good alukard is
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>>166441347
>but it isn't annoying as dirt rune, dshift or a haven deck.
Pretty much.

I'd rather take Daria over any haven deck or dshift everywhere. Dirt rune isnt that bad in my opinion.
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>>166441335
Ogler at 6 mana
Levi at 3/3 on evolve
Piercing Rune 2 mana on evolve
Clarke 1 spellboost instead of 2 maybe, I'm unsure for this one
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>>166441347
how is vomiting out their entire hand in one turn and then drawing cards 5 cards and then drawing evne more from insight and fate's hand not annoying to play against?

the cycle needs to be hit, no other aggro or tempo deck has that draw power.
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>>166441140
good night you pervert
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>>166441021
>>166441240
>>166441347
It's not daria that's broken it's piercing rune. 1pp for 2 removal during turn 4-6 is basically a follower removal and it also does 2 to face. It's stupidly cheap.
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>>166441439
>I'd rather take Daria over any haven deck
except haven is the only counter to daria, and every single haven deck would be less viable if it couldn't farm wins off daria
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piercing rune and levi should be nerfed
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>>166441140
she is happy with her ogler bf
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>>166441494
nope, definitely daria
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Who the fuck told me control sword was bad?

because im mad at you
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>>166441610
Bwahahahaha
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>>166441610
just themis is bro
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Does the ladder reset every month like in hs? Ranking up seems awfully slow even with huge winstreaks.
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>>166441807
No.
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If someone's willing, need a concede

78748
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>>166441610
it happens, there isn't really anything you can do about it.
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We have no choice but to succumb to the abyss. Progress is non-existent. The devil shall welcome me to success.
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>>166441706
CSword is decent. It's vulnerable to Daria, the most popular deck, but it's not an unwinnable match-up.

>>166441807
No reset whatsoever. When you hit master, every month you go back to 0 points, but if you're below master, you keep your rank.
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>>166441610
just homecoming it
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>>166441335
Draws and spell boosts by X. X equals the amount of cards in your hand, up to 5.
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>>166441707
>>166441802
I win anyway. Get rekt dorothy shitter.

>>166441852
If I was playing other deck I would've concede right after that shit happens.

>>166441894
Homecoming buff when?
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>>166441881
>he has to craft dimensional witches
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>>166441693
>>166441610
superhumpty 5/4/4 evolve deal 4 damage to the board when?
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>>166440749
sounds as something which they vomit on reddit

afaik they even made a special guide how to complain about daria there and try to enforce it to everybody
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>>166442013
>get 3 animated legendaries with free card packs
"dang no daria"
>open next pack
>daria
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>play aggro shadow for easiest ranks of my life
>up against Forte
>she greets me like a qt
>turn 6 she gets phantom howl cerbed and wow emotes
>feel bad for the next 2 hours

No one told me these easy wins came at such a cost
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Need a concede please

92421
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>>166441827
>>166441892
Good news. Ive been playing for about an hour every day for 2 weeks since I started and just hit C rank. I couldn't see myself ever getting masters if I had to start at D0 every month.
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>>166441335
She comes out and floods board consistently by turn 5. Usually avg turn 4 to 6 you see Daria. Almost all sweepers are 6+ mana. They need to make her pp cost higher to the point she avgs turn 6-8 from turn 1 or 2 in hand.

This alone might be enough to balance the deck as they have little direct damage beyond piercing rune and levi evolves. If they didnt have 10+ dmg on board turn 5 every game, that "little" face damage would not be as significant in light of the fact you can wipe the board more consistently too. Imagine thems or conflag/salamander/revelation and so on actually being counters to a huge board like they are supposed to be. Taking early board would not be instantly punished by Daria and runes wiping you anymore.

After trying this type of nerf (say Daria 12-14pp starting cost), if it was still found too strong, they could make Piercing Rune only work if an evolved unit is in play like all other evolve based conditionals in the game. No permanent 1 mana nuke if the board is clear. And the other is make Levi a 3/3 evolved.

I dont think all 3 nerfs would be required though. Daria needs to be nerfed as it will forever blow out other decks with an avg draw into turn 4 or 5 Daria. It needs to come out on sweeper turns and no earlier.
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10,000 PERCENT OF THE TIME
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>Sword is dead
Thanks for the support, /svg/!
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>>166441610
BRICK MY SHIT UP SENPAI
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>>166442259
When the filthy mid-sword netdeckers asked what you used, don't tell them.
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>>166441335
six PP flat.

Why does she even need to be spellboostable anyways?
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>>166442259

What variant of csword are you using?
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>>166442138
That reminds me, I beat a guy at 48800 pts today. 200 points away from Master.

I said Sorry before killing him, I felt bad. I hope he didn't take my Sorry as BM.
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I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A MEME
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>>166442249
i meet bricking rune bitches sometimes

imo it's not bm to always wait your full turn vs any rune player even if it is the first turn or they passed several turns

they are not fully humans anyway and deserve no respect
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>>166442326
he did and you know he did
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>>166442139

Thanks one eyed man !
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How to fix Shadowverse:

Levi is now Dragoncraft card.
Piercing Rune is now Dragoncraft card with Overflow trigger.
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can somebody please post the JO dragon decklist for a bro
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>>166442397
seek help
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>Dariafag evolve his Clarke for Piercing Rune when I have Mini Soul Devil on the field, brought themselves to lethal range from my 2x Claw.
Best daughteru. How can Gobu even compete?
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>>166442373
lmfao get meme'd on
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>>166442373
Is that PtP Shadow?
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>>166442315
>>166442312
jej
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>>166442463
Best girl
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>>166442457
rune can take dragon warrior if they want

>>166442465
for showing disrespect to the jerks who ruin the game?
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>>166442547
this
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>Eating 10 face damage when roaching because my opponent played 2 Yuriuses
They really need to speed the animations of some things up.
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>>166442524
Tyrant meme vs Reaper meme in AA1
>>166442532
I'm the tyrant anon from >>166440353
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>>166425908
fixed, way funnier now
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>>166442547
>>166442627
who
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>Bloodhungry Matriarch is a legendary
>Khawy is silver
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>>166427378

Vengeance should have worked like this:

Each time you take damage, you get 1 Vengeance point.

Certain Bloodcraft cards trigger bonus effects depending on the card (comes into play, end of turn, when they leave play, and/or whenever you have a certain number of Vengeance points, etc...), the most common of which is when it comes into play, a vengeance card will consume VP to activate its bonus effect.

There, I fixed Bloodcraft.
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>>166442764
rarity should define the card strength
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>>166442738
fix blade mage cost to 1
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>>166442845
DELETE THIS
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>>166442770
So basically discount Shadow?
Vengeance is fine as it is. Cygames just need to gave Blood cards that would make it worthwhile to get into Vengeance. Cards like Timeless Witch which just happen to be a Rune exclusive.
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>>166442758
Fujiwara from Kaguya Wants To Be Confessed To
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>>166442764
They were really uninspired for blood's legendary. It's a legendary ancient lion spirit.
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>>166442845

delet
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>>166442845
how did you arrive lying on the back
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>>166442845
>dubcucks
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>>166442770
no
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>>166442845
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>Out tempo or out aggro an aggro deck
>Their life is dropping faster than yours
>Suddenly no more auto pilot turns, every turn is (((thinking)))
Most hilarious shit in the world.
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>>166442898
It's not discount Shadow. It works thematically better because each time you get hurt, you're getting stronger, kinda like being a masochist instead of suddenly triggering only when you're at half hp.
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>>166442982
you already got told how to fix this garbage meme in the last thread, why would you post it again when its still shit
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Just started lpaying, r8 the legendaries i got from the free packs
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>>166442898
>Vengeance is fine as it is
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>>166442770
I like this idea. Being in vengeance will never be good as long as roach exists.
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>>166442965
it deals more than a lion spirit since it has a conditional burn also it doesn't need an evo point, gets stats on evo too
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>>166442982
Requesting shop of the "why can't I hold all these lemons" guy replaced with Daria, and the lemons replaced with Spellboost followers and other spells in Daria deck
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>>166443149
whoa never seen shiny bahamy before. keep.
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>>166442965
that's like saying albert is a legendary imp lancer
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>>166443149
Bahamut, daria and albert are 10/10.
Others are ok except for beast dominator which is trash
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>>166443149
bretty good. You can make a daria deck or an aggro swordcraft deck
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>>166442738
Really isn't. You just made it a dead panel.
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>>166443149
Not bad. You can safely liquify Bloodhungry and Dominator, and craft a second Daria to make a budget Tempo Rune deck.
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>>166443308
>You can safely liquify Bloodhungry

don't listen to that shitter, it's a common cblood leggo
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>Daria is super consistent
>it never bricks, you guys!
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>>166443272
Well that's kind of true

Legos like Ancient Elf, Merlin, and Nep have no cards where there's any such comparison
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In all seriousness, how likely is a Daria nerf? I'm about to craft 3 due to being stuck at ladder, and with that winrate, I am actually considering it more than countering dariadecks.
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>>166443358
Cblood is shit and expensive
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>>166443291
or a nep deck :^)

>>166443409
it's pretty much like to say that ancient elf is just a legendary goblinmount desu, just as silly
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>>166442898
Shadow doesn't have cards that trigger the Necromancy effect just by being at a certain number of Shadows without consuming them. They also don't have cards that trigger Necromancy when they leave play or at the end of the turn.

This new Vengeance has all of these.
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>>166443216
Matriarch doesn't feel legendary in its text, that's my point. Read any other legendary, it's unique and inspires you to play around the card. Matriarch is a board aoe attached on a body. It's only legendary because it has that ongoing burn for each follower dead, but it generally dies afterwards.

>>166443272
I'm not talking about the stats, but the legendary feel. Albert feels legendary because of its versatility, it can be used in aggressive decks and as a finisher in control decks, he deserves the legendary tag 100%.
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>>166443358
i nearly got triggered by his post as well but then i remembered cblood was shit
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>>166443440
Nerfed cards are worth full vials when liquifying after the nerfs. If Daria herself gets nerfed (which I doubt will happen), you are losing nothing. It's more likely for Levi/Piercing Rune to get nerfed though.
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Okay, should I craft Seraph Haven or Sun Satan?
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>>166443440
the nerf to daria itself isn't that bad, you will be able to dust her for the full 3500 price if you want if they nerf her directly

if they nerf piercing/levi it's another matter though
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>>166443542
Source senpai? I'm about to blow 10k vials for Dorothy
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>>166443545
>An actual good deck vs memes
Your choice.
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>>166443517
cerb is just a legendary levi, only worse :^)
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>>166443650
See Harvest Festival amd Homecoming nerf.
It reseted back to normal rate when DE/RoB came
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>>166442315
This is what I used for the last 2000 points and the trial.
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>>166443517
>shittier dd
wew lad so unique really noggin my joggin playin around dis card.
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This poor guy, I actually felt bad
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Why so salty, shadowbb?
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>>166443384
you dont know what bricking means, retarded daria cuck
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>>166443756
>Harvest Festival
How was it nerfed? Wasn't around when it happened.
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>>166443756
Thanks.
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>>166442218
>This alone might be enough to balance the deck as they have little direct damage beyond piercing rune and levi evolves.
what kind of shit list are you running? they also have blade mages. demonic strikes, dance of deaths, some even run disaster witch for more crimson sorcery
3 levi = 9 burn
3 piercing = 6
3 demonic strikes = 9
3 blade mage = 6
2 DoD= 4
2 disaster witch = 6
That's 40 damage of burn, enough to kill you 2 times over without a single minion ever sticking
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>>166443835
are you stupid?
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>>166443835
>>166443517
>Read any other legendary, it's unique and inspires you to play around the card.
I meant any other RoB Legendary.
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>>166443868
From 2 to 4 cost
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>>166443118
>>166442770
the thing is that playing around vengeance is actually fun and creates a lot of potential for mindgames. Here's the big thing that makes it good: it promotes INTERACTIVITY FROM BOTH PLAYERS. The blood player takes risks getting into vengeance, the other player can punish them for it, or avoid letting them get into vengeance in the first place. It just lacks card support to avoid instant death.

Compare Vengeance to other systems. You can't stop your opponent from getting into Overflow, so Overflow has to be meh because if it was good then nobody would be able to beat dragon past turn 7. You can't stop your opponent from Spellboosting. You can only stop your opponent from getting Shadows in extremely limited ways, by not killing their minions.

Perhaps this is the real reason why vengeance is bad. Because it actually promotes good gameplay, and everyone knows that top-tier decks in card games tend towards being as uninteractive as possible.
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>>166443656
Memes
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>>166443892
>minions are burn

Youre a special kind of stupid arent you?
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>>166444212
that's you are stupid though, 3x3 crimson sorcery is 9 points of burn
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>>166443440
People have paid hundreds of dollars for Daria sleeves and no refund can fix that.

They'll most likely just add some powercreep so she stands out less and call it a day.
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Need one quick concede

99401
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>>166444212
The only retard here is you.
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>>166443517
>Albert feels legendary because of its versatility
...what?

>>166443945
>I meant any other RoB Legendary.
...ok? They can't all be johnny cards, nor should they be, given how much they seem to have been scraping the bottom of the barrel with eidolon. Bloodhungry plops down, affects the opponent's board, affects the opponent's face, even affects the opponent's hand since her static changes the rules of engagement albeit mildly. Feels plenty legendary to me.
Imperial Dragoon is honestly the same way when played without a rites on board // splashed into a list without rites or discard synergy, just a little bit more all-in. I don't think it's a bad thing that Cygames is willing to give a legendary slot to people who like goodstuff.
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>>166442845
I want this on my bed

but delet it pls
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>>166444294
if it was a western dev id say "just because people are bad with money doesnt mean the game deserves to not be balanced"

i definitely dont want this to be hearthstone v2 where they cant figure out what balance means and just make every deck have OTKs that are easy to play
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>>166442845
That's a boy though
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>>166444212
inb4 I was only pretending and it was all a ruse
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>>166443892
>3 levi = 9 burn
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why isn't this card used again, it looks strong

>>166444294
people paid money for google play cards and got daria sleeves as a bonus it has nothing to do with daria or them whaling for daria, they likely spent most of those money for other games too
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rowan does it again...
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>>166443892
>That's 40 damage of burn, enough to kill you 2 times over without a single minion ever sticking
in theory, yes
in practice, if you can make it so that no minions stick, it's very difficult for tempo rune to deal even ~16 points of damage let alone 20 or 26
there's a reason every haven deck is favored against them even without running a full elana-sized heal package
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>>166444521
forgot the card ><
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>>166444212
crimson sorceries are burn and minions give those
>>166444410
Hearthstone barely has OTK decks anymore, it is mostly play stuff on curve decks
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Tales from A1. Forte had already spent two Altered Fates by turn four, despite not having anything on board. Previous guy was running Pascale with Spellboost followers and Gauntleted Healer too.
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>>166444534
H-Hear
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>>166444620
are you sure that was the right image
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Should I make 3 Alberts and play aggro sword or make 3 Seraphs and play pure seraph?
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>>166444674

>Previous guy was running Pascale with Spellboost followers

like this? >>166434604

>>166444809
you mean it is used?
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>>166444846
or you can craft three darias...
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>>166444927
But I already have 3 Darias. I want to make a viable sword or heaven deck to play with.
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>>166444973
>But I already have 3 Darias
why don't you enjoy them then?
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>Opening none stop packs for Albert and Saha
>Get a full set of Dorothy instead
This shit is rigged, they want everyone playing this garbage.
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So...
Albert and Yurius are Guts and Griffith?
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>>166444847
Yeah, but the only one he got to play was an Ogler. He was also running Witchbolt.
Feels like the game is taking pity on me at this point.
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>>166434604
I've seen a deck like this before and it actually seemed kind of good to me
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>>166443296
Yes it is better, and making it a dead panel was the point, that joke requires the pause for effect. You've clearly never had any friends or family actually use that joke on you. It's flat and childish if you tease it or do it slowly. You have to really sell that you're doing something else, pause briefly, then suddenly reveal the middle finger. Try it yourself sperglord, or just look it up on youtube or something.
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>>166434229
it's because of this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t7QFa0opHA
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>>166445024
I do and she helped me climb from D0 to A0 but now I wanna try out some other decks!
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>>166444847
It's not used.
It doesn't have any place in the current dragon decks since it doesn't stabilize the board or contribute to wincons.
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>>166442013
>3 Bahamuts
>3 Neps
>3 Eidolons
>3 Wolf
>1 Saha
>1 Albert
>Still no Daria
Feels Shit Man
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>>166444534
>tfw you want to defend rowen bur shit like this happens
Its not fair
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>>166443517
rarities are distributed mostly due to complexity, and not the quality or the versatility of the card. Some cards (read: Khawy) are weird, though. High cost cards also tend towards higher rarities.

Bloodhungry has conditional face damage AND AoE.
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>>166445107
Is that Gin-san?
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>>166436082
so, i take it that that deck is deprecated by now and mandatory needs dorothy
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>>166444071
Muh nigga.
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>>166445350
aggro rune without dorothy is a hell of a lot more viable than a lot of other crafts without their key legendary
you can't really justify going without the ROB spellboost legendaries though
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Cucked anyone today /svg/?
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>>166445435
er, without the RoB spellboost bronzes/silvers
ogler is just too much of a beating
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>>166445465
Deserves a nerf tbqh famalams
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>>166445528
oh, i see
was going to ask what you meant
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>>166445465
what a pussy
i would have filled the board and waited for the next turn for evo
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>>166445465
STOP LUNA BULLY
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>>166445687
>tfw you discard your win rate
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>>166445553
huh, she wears tiny glasses
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>>166445465
>two odins and olivia
what fucking deck is this?
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>fighting rune
>they play a total of 1 follower (disaster witch) in 7 turns
>naturally assume it's dshift
>go straight for their face
>it suddenly becomes a daria deck on turn 8
i'm so confused, what just happened
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>>166445767
Looks like Sun Satan to me famalam
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>>166445786
>i'm so confused, what just happened
bricking
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>>166445767
The most evil deck of them all of course!
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>rolled three Legendaries over the past two days
>finally got promoted to A2 which took like three weeks
We're all going to make it, /svg/.
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>>166445832
i don't think it's possible to brick that hard

i'm playing ramp dragon and i've never bricked so hard that i don't play anything for 7 turns
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>>166445751
It's so that she can see your tiny dick better.
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New thread
>>166445949
>>166445949
>>166445949
>>166445949
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It's me Vania
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>>166445987
>Vania
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>>166443545
Seraph because it's satisfying to end the game one turn before you get ungad to death. Never played Sun Satan. I assume it's got slightly better aggro matchups but it's probably a lot worse vs any control deck. It's a free win as Seraph anyway :)
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>>166444071
How vengeance really works after C rank
>get hit down to 11
>die next turn because you can't revelation/leech/drain etc
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I want Harvest Festival returned into 2pp.
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