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/meg/ will never be great edition

Newest video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inh3V2CfdaE

MEG's updated Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ehq8JjR2

MegSev adventures: MegSev dot blogspot dot com

All previous Collages that we know of: http://imgur.com/a/FSJBQ

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtWTUt2RZh0

CES 2016 Footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRStRzbBD_g

N7 Day 2015 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Et481TNgE

E3 2015 trailer: https://youtu.be/uG8V9dRqSsw

E3 2014 trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4HbiCKBhFU

Bioware propaganda: http://blog.bioware.com/2015/06/15/introducing-mass-effect-andromeda/

Letterbox List of Science Fiction to watch while you wait for ME:A
http://letterboxd.com/meganon/list/meg-watch-while-we-wait/

In this thread:
>/pol/lacks playing a socialist sjw space sim
>redditors pretending they’re edgy
>srsly oldfags still playing vidya

Stale Bread >>166108616
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>>166225546
>new collage
good man

>>166225040
>80% of players played as male Shepard
why are they forcing that femshep meme then?

>>166225524
could be their brother or whatever played on the same account afterwards
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Femshep Bestshep
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>>166225515
>Why don't they release the end game decision (destroy/keep Collector base, red/green/blue) on any of these official stat images?

Do you have any idea how sensitive people are to RGB? Any official statistics that showed their favored ending isn't popular (particularly synthesis and control) would meet a shitstorm.

The Collector's base is a good one, I remember people on GameFaqs and The Escapists doing essays in how preserving the base is a necessary evil because Cerberus was the galaxy's only hope against the Reapers and stuff, then ME3 happened.
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>>166226016
>Do you have any idea how sensitive people are to RGB?

Why do you think I want them to release it?
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>>166225728
Feminism.
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>>166225735
>girl

beast waifu pic related
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Thread claimed.
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>>166225515
>>166226016
whoever faction "won" would go "make it canon" and fights would break out
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>>166226016
>Do you have any idea how sensitive people are to RGB?
Yes, I would love to see Destroy getting >50% of the votes and the tears of Synthesisfags.
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>>166226267
You guys continue to provide reasons this information should be released.
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>/dag/ is still dead
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>>166226147
>Implying I would not eat out Ash's asshole even harder if she had a huge cock and heavy balls
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>>166225546

Damn, new collage. Nice to see.
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>>166226415
what stops you from making a new /dag/ and shooting it
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>>166225861
>>166226585

You anons sure know how to make a gal blush.
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>>166226267
This, and people would probably misinterpret the stats. For example, you'll notice that 39.8% of the people in that image Bioware released had the "Long Service Medal" achievement. Meaning, fewer than 40% of the people who the image was discussing played any of the previous games or even played the third game twice; thus that 60% should be ignored for arguments about the popularity of certain choices among the fandom.
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>>166225807
Nope, just tried it on Insanity and a shot with the Cain at 190% doesn't even remove all of their armor, let alone their health
Also I just noticed there are 3 mechs and not 2
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>>166226861
It'd probably be even fewer who actually played ME1/2 when you take into account the save file sites that went up around these games.
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>People thought there was too much driving across landscapes in the Mako? Alright, axe it
>It's kind of annoying to wait for the Normandy elevator? Fuck you, Normandy is now completely unconnected levels with fast travel
>Inventory has too much clutter? We'll remove it then
I miss when Bioware listened to their fans while being severe as fuck
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>>166227075
Doesn't the Cain damage the crates too?
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I wonder if quarians can spray an aerosol of stored waste from their suits when they need to dissuade assailants.
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>>166227076
Even more so when you consider that you can get the "Long Service Medal" achievement just by playing ME3 twice. Though 36% of players getting quarian-geth peace would indicate that at least that many players imported a save.
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>>166227215
Nope, drop a fucking nuke next to them and they're fine, but if a robot shoots some rounds at them they break immediately
Bioware logic
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>>166227172
I will miss the sexed up waifus, when they turned up the cleavage and asses to eleven.
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>>166225546
Is that a new alien in the collage? Neat.
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>>166227075
reload, try again. you need to hit an exact spot for it to work.

>>166227215
nope
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>tfw will never watch tungsten telephone poles screaming towards the ground while sheathed in burning hot plasma.
>tfw will never feel the impact with my feet before hearing the sound.
>tfw will never marvel over the mushroom cloud after recovering from the passing shockwave.
>tfw will never mop up surviving combatants in a hauntingly silent landscape of toppled trees and wrecked buildings doused in a layer of fine grey dust.
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>Kai Leng poster is active early today

Is Kai Leng the worst character in the series? He's even more useless than Jacob.
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>>166228573
>The most prominent Asian character in the series is a ninja edgelord.

Bravo bioware!
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>>166227446
source?
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Level with me /meg/, is it worth it to explore every inch of each planet surface, or should I just go for distress beacons and such marked on the map?
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>>166225546

Now, that's a good fuckin' OP, WITH a well-made, related collage.
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>>166229074
The wiki has maps with all the points of interest marked. For the most part you can stick to the distress beacons / already marked locations. It doesn't take that many to complete the collection quests so you should be all done with them by the time you're halfway through.
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Do Protheans not need space suits or was Bioware just lazy?
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>>166229449
I should say, I don't care at all about collectible quests, I just mean the actual content that side quests attached to it and such
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>>166226521
>huge cock and heavy balls

This made me laugh, for some reason.
Make a fic about it.
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>>166229654
ah, if you don't care about the collection quests then yeah, just hit the objectives. don't even bother with the crashed probes/trash loot stuff either unless you're using omnigel for every lock.

>>166229639
both.
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>>166229654
Do the Asari sidequest so you can unlock Conrad Verner's quest in ME3.
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>>166227446

I'm absolutely okay with cleavage and huge butts clad in latex/spandex/space materials, I just prefer them out of combat and at specific times.
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>>166228696
>>The most prominent Asian character in the series

Kasumi's a lot more prominent than him. Leng has, what, ten lines? Outside of combat taunts.
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>>166230102
I just came off a ME3 replay so that's fine
I also never really liked Verner
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>>166230193
Oh, forgot about her, my bad.

Most prominent chink then.
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>>166228573

Oh, hey, a nice .gif of that.
>that Not Actual Gameplay
Lel.
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>>166230148
But Mass Effect is all about the combat.
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>>166228696
>no Qing Chong
>no Zhang Liuzhou
>no Yang Beibei

'Kai Leng' sounds dumb, and I wish we got more Chinese peeps.
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>>166230462
The not actual gameplay on every piece of footage we've seen makes me LOL. Meanwhile they keep tweeting that they're playing the game at home even though we've yet to see a live demo on any platform.
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>>166230669

That's the only footage with 'Not Actual Gameplay', though, right?

There's the first real trailer that showed (although with no HUD) gameplay, the Sony thing and the latest one. That I can remember.
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>>166230886
The CES footage (linked in OP) has the disclaimer at the end, "Captured in Engine. Representative of Game Experience". Literally everything they've shown has a disclaimer in that vein.
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>ENEMIES EVERYWHERE
>GO GO GO
>singularity doesn't have enough strength to lift krogan yet
>throw him all the way across the room and kill him instead
>cast overload, sabotage, and warp in the middle of a group of enemies
>get fucking killed because insanity is hard
I forgot how fun this is
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>>166230669
They don't even have images about the special edition "casual Tempest clothes" yet.

Because if it's a hoodie, I'm buying it.
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Garrus is my waifu.
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is dysentery still a problem in the future?
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So, I have Gayquisition running on Ultra-High settings at 40-60 fps. Am I ready for Andromeda, bois?
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>>166233658
no one is ready for andromeda
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>>166233819
Including Bioware
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>>166233342
Is it a problem these days for modern armies?
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>>166233342

Is it a problem for modern militaries?
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>>166233658
Yeah. Im assuming you mean at 1080
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>>166234581
Yes
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>>166226521
>>166229791
His tongue tasted sweat as he licked at her taint, she pushed her ass back, the tip of his nose met with her puckered hole. He breathed in her scent, a deep musky perfume that made him crave more.
Ashley yelped as he grabbed her thighs and pulled her rear into his face. Her erection swung freely, leaking pre as he swirled his tongue around the rim of her anus.
It felt surprisingly good, she closed her eyes and moaned as the wet muscle probed just beyond the opening.
One of the hands holding her thighs moved, caressing her enormous penis as it traced a line toward her heavy balls.
Another moan escaped her lips as he fondled her scrotum, gently weighing the fertile orbs in his hand as his tongue explored her rectum.
Inwardly she wondered what he found so enticing about her anus, then again she liked his anus too. Her humongous meat-spear bobbed an affirmative as it drooled long thin threads of sticky pre.
The man just kept licking, relishing her musk and taste. He flicked his tongue across her hole, her scrotum and even bent her chubby member down to suckle at its glans.
He played with her foreskin, moaning as his cock ached in his pants, begging for release.
"Yeah lick my girl/boy-pussy" She groaned "Put your tongue in my shit-hole skipper."
He obliged, grabbing one of her enormous balls in each hand as he dove in, the force of his ass-spelunking drove her forward as he forced as much of his cerberus issue cyborg tongue into her anal cavity.
"Yes! good boy!" She moaned.

"Hughmmuffhhgum" He replied, she shuddered as his warm breath entered her poop-chute. Her heavy balls dangling like only fertile woman-testicles do. The puddle of pre was steadily growing, she was drooling thick strands of slick fluid, her cock throbbed, bobbing. A light touch was all she needed. Shepard felt her need and he pushed his tongue against her prostate, she screamed in pleasure and came all over his spaceship models.
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>>166225546

>Letterbox List of Science Fiction to watch while you wait for ME:A
>http://letterboxd.com/meganon/list/meg-watch-while-we-wait/

Nice
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I had forgotten how much I fucking hate the brat at the beginning of ME3
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>>166237007
Don't worry fampai, he isn't real, just a piece of Shepard's imagination.
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>>166235965

The absolute madman!
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>>166237007
Never agreed with hating the kid. Always aw it as a valid narrative device that represented Shepard having nightmares about the horrible nature of the war. He tried for years to prevent the Reapers from arriving at all, and he ultimately failed in that because nobody listened.
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>>166235965
This is one of those times when I keep laughing my head off while reading it but I also find it hot as hell.
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>>166238703
>>166238232
I'm glad you like it!
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Explain how you would aim this in real life.
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>>166239236

I don't know, man.
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>>166239236
There's a scope type thing if you look at the fish's asshole.
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>>166239236
Attach a scope that weighs 50 pounds
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>>166239479
>50 pound scope on a 100 pound rifle

Amazing.
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>>166239236
Like this
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>>166239418

What?
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>>166225546
I WANT TO FUCK A FEMALE TURIAN RIGHT NOW GOD DAMNIT
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>>166240886

Yeah, and I want to eat Ashley's asshole, what of it?
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I am new to these threads, what is the meaning behind the Garrus beta meme? He seemed alright to me.
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Do they ever talk about prosthetics? I remember the guy in the Citadel hospital bed being told that he was losing his leg. I feel like they would have decent prosthetics, right?
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>>166240886
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>>166241328
Of course they would. Shepard was 60% prosthethics since ME2.
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>>166240886
you and everyone else, bro
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>>166241653
Oh yeah. So why was that guy so worried?
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>>166235965
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>>166241328

Not really. Shepard has synthetic materials in him and Kai Leng has prosthetic legs, but other than that, they never mention it aside from something small about asari sniper teams getting prosthetic replacements to use the Widow, or something.

I personally think they should go more into it. Not necessarily Deus Ex:HR style, where they explain every little detail about how the electroactive polymers work and how the electrodes cause scarring tissue on the nerve cells because the glial cells see them as foreign contaminants that eventually cause the body to reject the prosthetics unless you pop special drugs.
But, I do think they should play a bit more with the subject. Maybe you meet an Alliance admiral or ex-soldier with a prosthetic arm, for example, or a reconaissance special forces team with leg replacements.
Just something.
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>>166241941

They also mention how the prosthetic is only temporary since they can regrow limbs, if I remember correctly.
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>>166241653
He's 30% actually.
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>>166242085
So, in ME the stem cell stuff didn't pay off?
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>>166242242
Then why is the non player Ryder in a wheelchair this game? Just waiting for the limbs to grow or did the arks not bring the best medical equipment with them?
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>>166242496
Because Bioware games are written by hacks.
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>>166241941
Shitty writing, maybe bad health insurance, maybe initial shock?
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>>166242496
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>>166235965
>that ending
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>>166241905
How much on her being the tsundere squad mate?
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>>166242496
>Just waiting for the limbs to grow

Y'know, this would make it very interesting. A 'I feel a personal need to be out there helping people, but with my legs fucked and the doctors still working on my replacements, I need to sit and roll around in my wheel chair' kind of deal, where the sibling gets very jittery and frustraded and stuff, because they can't do something they desperately want to do.
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>>166242810
nah, that's peebee, she's apparently a lone wolf that doesn't much care for others until Ryder comes along. Vetra's the insecure squadmate, she's clutching her hands in the trailer
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>>166243496
Sure? Peebee looks like the Traynor/Sera/Meril of the group. The quirky one.
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>>166243926
could also be that they're trying to make 'new' characters by combining old ones. Peebee might be Sera with hints of Vivienne to make her even worse, for example
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>>166225990
>only 18%
>best
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>>166244659
Can't expect the masses to appreciate.
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>>166244836
Jennifer Hale's voice was boringly annoying
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>>166243926
>Traynor
>quirky
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>>166245074
>Lel have u seen my toothbrush
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>>166244659
the majority of the population is uninformed pleb
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>>166245402
i tried a femshep playthrough
literally stopped after Eden Prime just on how annoying Hale's voice was
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Synthetics > Organics
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>>166245830
low quality bait
meers performance in me1 is much worse than Hales
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I have been thinking, in retrospect were the Collectors in ME2 pretty much a non-threat?

I mean, they only have one ship, so "powerful" a recon frigate blew it and their only accomplishment was kidnapping tens of thousands (out of billions) of humans in remote colonies outside Alliance jurisdiction.

Any Collector attack on major colonies like Elysium and Terra Nova would probably face an immediate response as soon as the comm went off, let alone Earth that has like 10 dreadnoughts protecting it.
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>>166246297
It is, but Meer gets a lot better after that while Hale, at best, kind of stays stagnant.
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>>166246552
>muh wage gap
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>>166246513
>they only have one ship, so "powerful" a recon frigate blew it

The SR-2 is a cruiser class, not a frigate. It also had classified reverse engineered Reaper weaponry.
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>>166246513
Yeah, the consensus is that ME2's main plot is shitty filler.

Walters needed a reason (even if mediocre) for Shepard to work in his wanked shady organization.
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>>166246720
And lots of pillows
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>>166247185
don't forget LEATHER SEATS
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>>166246720
>The SR-2 is a cruiser class, not a frigate

No, it's still called a frigate. That gun did give it firepower equivalent to a heavy cruiser, however, per the codex.

>>166247596
God that was such a shitty ship design.
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>>166246513
Millions actually, but yeah, overall a non-threat in the grand scheme. Certainly a big threat to the few dozen million humans in those Terminus colonies though. A worthy task for a Spectre either way. but that doesn't change the fact that ME2's story was shit.

Also they had more than one ship, and they weren't that weak. One of them destroyed a turian frigate flotilla (which consist of 1 cruiser leading 4-6 frigates) without suffering damage.
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>>166247897
>One of them destroyed a turian frigate flotilla (which consist of 1 cruiser leading 4-6 frigates) without suffering damage.

I though that a ruse by TIM.
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>>166248007
The cruiser being damaged was the ruse, as was the distress signal. The turian patrol getting destroyed was legit, iirc.
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>>166250542
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>>166250542
Fuck you I just had lunch
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>>166250680
I swear to god if we don't see Vetra in a dress I will pay my friend to mod her casual outfit
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I'm going to marry Ashley's butthole!
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>>166246552
Meer only catches up at ME3

pleb
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>>166252771
Meer catches up in 2, and overtakes by 3
but I still alternate plays, because every time I romance Tali I wonder if Garrus romance is better and vice versa.

Garrus is always better, but not by much
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>>166246513
It's really stupid because the one reaper they were building would probably actually have helped if it was unleashed on the galaxy since everyone wouldn't be taken completely pants down in ME3. I'm not even sure how the reapers woke up in darkspace to begin with without the signal but I don't think the collectors had anything to do with that.
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What if Brandon Keener had done mshep's voice and Meer had done Garrus', who you got /meg/?
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>>166252771
Meer is about as good as Hale in ME1 and only gets better in later games while Hale declines and sounds more and more bored.
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>>166253475
To me it looked like she got full of herself as she more got recognition and the tryhard shows
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Honestly both Meer and Hale suck because the character they have to voice is a stoic, bland, action hero with very little opportunity presented to actually SHOW some emotion in their voice beyond aggressive yelling.

That being said, I prefer Hale. Meer sounds like he's reading his lines straight off the script at times between ME1 and ME2. He's fine in 3 though, I finally noticed the improvement.
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>>166252607
That buttholes has seen some African action, I'm sure
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>>166253475
youre trying too hard
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>>166253823
>Honestly both Meer and Hale suck because the character they have to voice is a stoic, bland, action hero with very little opportunity presented to actually SHOW some emotion in their voice beyond aggressive yelling.

This desu, Shepard has little personality regardless of what you do. S/he's the worst of both world as a protagonist. Defined enough that you can't properly roleplay, not defined enough to be even the least bit interesting.

I only really believed emotion from Shepard twice, both times with Meer. Once at the end of Overlord, once in Shepard's conversation with a romanced Tali at the conclusion of the Rannoch arc.
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>>166253871
You're confusing it with Miranda's (and Jack's, half the galaxy has been in that one).
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Should I install EGM and MEHEM?
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>>166255415
and CEM
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>>166238351
Well because not every Shepard would give a fuck about the kid, some Shepards are sociopaths
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What is the best full auto assault rifle in ME3?
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>>166253112
If Gayrus had been a thing instead of Gaydan I would have been all over that
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>>166253823
This Meer is a lot better when he's voicing non-Shepard characters in the game
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>>166255415
MEHEM + CEM yes, EGM maybe.

>>166256813
Harrier, and it's not close.
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>>166257550
What's wrong with EGM?
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>>166257932
nothing's really wrong with it, I'm just not crazy about what it adds.
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Does anyone have that photoshop merging Stranger Danger Shepard with FemRyder?
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Do you think you'll get to be a cyborg in Andromeda?
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>>166259674
Bioware tends to forget that cyberpunk has a place in the ME universe
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>>166254194
There are also plenty of moments in the Citadel DLC, namely Grunt's fun birthday party and the final scene where he says "...the best".

But watching scenes of femshep she was clearly better in ME3.
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Who do I pick guys?

Kaiden or Liara?
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>>166263047
You stay pure.
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>>166263047
Have fun never getting rid of Liara
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>>166263047
Garrus
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Who's the best buddy, banterwise, to bring along in the Shadowbroker DLC?
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>>166263047
Garebear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlyFidcj1Gc
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>>166263825
Anyone. It's mostly Liara and Shepard banter.
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>>166263047

Liara.
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>>166263825
There is no banter with the third companion, he pretty much stays silent.
So I always bring Garrus, he and Liara know each other and he's great against broker troops.
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>166263047
ignore them both and romance Garrus
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>>166263825
None of them say anything, pick whoever.
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>>166264651
Man, turians are spooky without their armor.
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>>166264651
Can I romance garrus in ME1?
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>>166265820
No
2 and 3 because of the landwhales and the faggots
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>>166263047
Kaidan if you're renegade
Liara if you're paragon

Garrus if you're a fun loving shep
Thane if you're a tragic woe is me shep
Jacob if you hate yourself
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>>166266973
You forgot Traynor if he likes chess, nerdy things, and clothed sex under the shower.
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>>166268695
>clothed sex under the shower.
seriously, why
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>>166264637
>manjaw with cleft
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>>166269064
Space lesbians for a Christian audience
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>>166268695
If Bioware could give Traynor a personality that doesn't evolve around her being gay why couldn't they with the gay pilot?
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Does anyone know what the weapons in the preorder are? Like I can't find any info other than that there are four of them (gut says pistol, Rifle, shotgun, and submachine gun).
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>>166271260
Haven't found any info on anything in the pre-orders yet except how the deep-space explorer outfit looks. It's just not released info yet, apparently.
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>>166271260
No idea, there's a helmet for watching all the Andromeda Initiative videos.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFEUvTABkok

A fat Ameripig demanding quarians in the game
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I don't want buy Andromeda. I am still unironically pissed off about ME3's ending and Bioware's reaction to our problems with it. My problem wasn't the color coded "All 3 look the same," but rather the purposeful ambiguity instead of an actual ending. They went for ambiguity thinking that's deeper but instead it felt lazy and scared to give actual closer, happy or sad.
But I really loved the game series, even 75% of the ME3, and I really wana go back to that universe. But I don't want to give EA money. I don't want them to think they can just fuck the things we love and get away with it. And I can't justify pirating it since that works even moreso in EA's favor as it 'justifies' their DRM and other bullshit practices as they view pirates as lost sales, not people that wouldn't ever give them money. I don't want to buy this game but I don't know if I can resist. I know I won't preorder it, but how long does it take for a game sale to not be part of the 'initial' sales period? Like how long till it's a residual?
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>>166271919

I mean they're adding jet packs. Like they are purposefully trying to get me to be excited for this. I personally, although I can appreciate other do, don't mind the shoddy animations. It's a Bioware and Bethasda thing that character animations are just a low priority. *I* can accept that and tolerate it fully, I'm not there for the animations, I'm there for the story and the role playing. If I want graphical/animation fidelity, I'll play whatever the new Crytech Engine game is. And even the splitting up of the trees isn't that big of a deal. I used to use the save editor in ME2 and 3 to do that and 'build' my own character. Yeah it makes you a jack of all trades, but to be frank, even using the prebuilt trees I never feel underpowered. There was never a fight I just couldn't do. So the ability to just pick my favorite things isn't a huge problem. And fucking jetpacks... but why oh why does it still have to be an EA property.
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>>166272152
>>166271919
Just wait 2-3 months at most and there will be a crack.
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>>166272450

I don't have a moral or grand objection to pirating, I just personally don't do it, other than to 'require' games that I've owned in the past but are no longer available in any real capacity, like NES roms and shit like that. I don't like the idea, for just me, applies to no one else, of pirating recent (5-6 years at least) games since it contributes to them fucking over PC gamers. They view pirated games as a lost sale, when in reality 90% of pirates would never give them money even if pirating was really impossible. But devs think otherwise and the result is the draconian DRM and other bullshit that is justified cause of 'evil pirates' and I can't in good conscious contribute to the problem on my own accord.

So I won't use a cracked version, since in there eyes that's still a sale, just one they didnt get money for. I fear I might be stuck with a lets play for this one.
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Would you eat one of her cookies? Keep in mind that she'll want you to accept that she is the cutest femtur
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>>166271919
I'd say buy used, but that won't work on PC and assumes you'll be playing on one of the consoles.
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>>166273101
Fuck off
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I love the Ruthless background on a Renegade Shep
>sending in Shepard who sacrificed his entire unit to peacefully solve the biotic cult situation
>Major Kyle even calls you Butcher of Torfan
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I can't wait to corner and sexually assault the salarian pilot. If they didn't want to be treated as sissies, they should not have belonged to a society of dickless beta males
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>Turians become Marauders, intelligent enemies who can reinforce their allies and use assault rifles
>Asari become Banshees, highly cunning enemies who can teleport across the field and use devastating biotics
>Krogans become Brutes, near-unstoppable death machines who tear down everything in their paths
>Rachni become Ravagers, walking heavy turrets of death who can also continually spawn swarmers
>Batarians become Cannibals, highly durable enemies equipped with heavy artillery who can consume other enemies to strengthen themselves

>Humans become either Husks, whose main strategy is literally to throw themselves at the enemies unarmed and hoping for the best, or Abominations, who just run to the nearest enemy and blow themselves up

I'm not sure how but I think that's racist
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Man, romances in ME2 and 3 were downright realistic compared to 1
>recruit Liara
>talk to her
>she stammers a bit about how she wants to study me
>tell her to her face that I don't trust her
>go on a few side missions
>talk to her again
>yo Shepard there's a mutual attraction right?
>apparently Shepard is now dating Liara
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>>166273101
she probably made it out of her """special mixture""" don't eat them
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>>166273101

Go hug a fucking tree and that should simulate the fucking feel you'd get when cuddling with a Turian.

Not to mention her sharp teeth which makes it impossible for her to give blowjobs.
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>>166277919
i think you've just given me a tree fetish
also
>implying
you can do anything with good enough tongue-work
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How come every single biotic in the series except for Shep can do some form of gliding / super jump? Now we get jumping mechanics and a double jump with a jet pack, but no classes to allow true biotic god gameplay. Yes, I'm mad.
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>>166278068
What's more important: Epic cutscenes or fun gameplay?
The answer's pretty obvious but I'm sure Bioware picked the other option
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>>166277840
I think ME2 definitely handled the romances better (with better choices at that) but still had big flaws here and there. Tali and Garrus' romances can be summed up as, you do them and favor and now you persuade them into fucking. That being said Tali already crush on Shepherd and one could maybe argue that Garrus too had one though handled far more subtle, he only says the whole "You know someone women like scars" with FemShep which I always found suspiciously flirtatious after having played as Maleshep where Garrus just roasts you instead.

ME3 handled romances the best. Few flaws with the major characters. Supporting cast of ME2 characters suffered a lot from lack of screentime but the majority of people didn't romance them anyway.
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>>166277524
w-what?
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>>166277984

You need help, friend.
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>>166278287
>ME3 handled romances the best
Here's what interactions with Liara are like if you romanced her in ME1, played Borker, and continue romancing her in ME3:
>meet her on Mars, immediately hold hands and gaze into each other's eyes before getting on with the plot
>back on the Normandy, she asks if you should continue the relationship
>say definitely
>after the Citadel attack, she sends you a message saying you should hang out on the Citadel
>go do that, talk about Benezia a bit
>she somehow mentions you being friends so Shepard can say "friends doesn't cut it anymore Liara, I want more"
>before the Cerberus assault, she once again asks you if you are,in fact, in a relationship now
Jesus fucking Christ
And then she says "I love you" like 4 times throughout the rest of the ending because Bioware thinks that's how you get the player emotionally invested
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>>166278472
>Liara can be in a relationship with you in all 3 games
>no other love interest does that
>is still uncertain whether you love her or not multiple times within ME3
Wew.
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>>166277919
>>166277917
>>166274668
Rude, she just wanted to give you a cookie
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>>166278638
>>no other love interest does that
Tali, surely
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>>166278669
Can't romance Tali in ME1
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>>166278695
Oh? So the only LIs for a male Shep are Liara and Ashley?
So that's why Liara asked me if I was dating Ash even though my entire dialog with her consisted of telling her she let her squad down, telling her she should stop fucking talking to me like I'm her friend, and saying her poetry bullshit is boring
Bioware!
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>>166278783
Yes. Kaidan, Ashley and Liara are the only romanceable characters in ME1
It was back when Bioware still thought they were making a sci-fi game and not a dating simulator in space
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>>166278648

I'll accept her cookie if she gives me a cuddle trial so I can rightfully judge for myself if Turian girls are superior.
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>>166278068
In ME3, if you take Kaidan to the Ardat Yakshi monastery, when Samara does her biotic gliding stuff you get a little bit along the lines of "so uh, I don't suppose you've figured out how to do that either, right"
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>>166279349
Meanwhile, in the Citadel DLC Liara effortlessly floats Vega around
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>>166278867
Those were the days.
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>>166279349
>>166279434
gets me angry to no end when you play a biotic class and Liara comes up to your room in ME3 about that device she created and tells you you're "one of the most powerful biotics in the galaxy"
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>>166266258

Very, well drawn, even if it looks a bit too much like the guy from Far Cry 3.
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>>166273101
>she'll want you to accept that she is the cutest femtur

Hold on there, meow, there's a difference between calling her the cutest female turian and calling female turians in general 'cute'.

So, sure, I'll take a cookie.
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>>166281494
Both are acceptable.
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>playing a biotic class
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>>166283450
>playing Soldier like a normie or Vanguard like a redditor

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.
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So, I started ME3 and... WHAT'S WRONG WITH SHEPARD'S HANDS?
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>>166284191
For some reason in all Dragon Age and Mass Effect games the hands are strangely crippled. Bioware not only can't into animations but also not into proper anatomy.
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>>166283616
>playing Soldier like a normie or Vanguard like a redditor
hah so true
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>>166284502
soldier's fun though

you get other characters to fill up powers but your teammates will never be as efficient with a gun as you
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>>166285140
i bet you romanced liara too you absolute scumfuck.
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>>166285140
get out
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>>166285282
I didn't romance anybody faggot

i accidentally romanced liara once and replayed an entire mission to undo it because FUCK liora
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>>166282598

For a turian, she's pretty cute baking cookies for the crew.
>tfw no proper crew interaction so far
>no Ashley reading poetry for Liara
>no Wrex telling stories
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>>166285852

Is her baking cookies canon?
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>>166285282
>>166285303
he's right though
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>>166286268
All of HTQ's art is canon, I believe.
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>>166273101
Cute.
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>>166288168

Who's HTQ?
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>>166288746

Oh, jeez.
A guy that drew stuff for MEG a good while back.
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>>166289198

Sorry if I offended you.
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>>166289276

Not at all. Just didn't think of all of the new people coming in.
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>>166289705

Ah ok.
Yeah, I got here a week and a half ago so I'll have to learn all the general stuff in this thread.
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I'm currently playing ME1 and I bought the hamster. Whenever I would go near it and click, it would make a "meep" sound. I do this after every mission. But I just tried to make him "meep" again but he was silent this time. He's not dead because he was running around like usual. What's going on?
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>>166291551
He's tired of your shit.
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>>166291551
save the game and reload, is the hamster still silent?
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>>166291551
you're crazed, there's not hamster in ME1
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>>166291551
have you tried restarting it?
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>>166291551
No hamster in ME1. You're hallucinating.
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>>166291659
>>166291753
He is still silent. Maybe it's because I let the fish die? I keep forgetting to feed them.
>>166291889
>>166292445
I meant ME2, sorry.
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>>166293074
He's scared that you let his friends die and that he's the next.
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>>166293074
You've reached max meeps for this playthrough, you're going to have to start a new character.
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>tfw no more Kieth David or Lance Henriksen

I mean what even is the point anymore
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>>166294470
Clancy Brown is a pretty good get.

I'm not crazy about the Ryder VAs. The human leader of the AI sounds ok. Jien Garso or whatever the fuck her name is.

Who would you like to see besides Anderson and Hackett?
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>>166294786

>Tfw Mark Meer and Seth Green won't even do additional voices for Andromeda

I mean what even is the point anymore
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>tfw no qt turianette gf.
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>>166295382
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>>166295040
Is it confirmed? I mean there wouldn't be even a "random Andromedan race" voiced by Meer like the Vorcha and Hanar?
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>>166295040
>being this stuck in the past
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So you can't play as a male pc in Andromeda?
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>>166296254
you can play as a gay twink.
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so was this /v/ leaker full of shit? He also said the Asari ark was pretty much btfo.
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Anyone else think that Andromeda will be Inquistion-tier garbage?
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>>166296707
No, we are of course all hyped and expect a return to ME1 greatness
/meg/, where pattern recognition isn't allowed
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>>166296379
Who's that fucking faggot?
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>>166296707
Most definitely. It'll be a stinking pile of SJW shit. Nothing Nu-Bioware has made is good.
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>>166296949
Scott Ryder, Captain of the Tempest. Brother to Sara Ryder, marketing fodder and cripple.
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>>166295590
Vetra is a qt.
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>>166297212
>Brother to Sara Ryder
I haven't paid any attention to Andromeda information, whichever Ryder you don't pick becomes an NPC?
Also, what is it with Bioware and weirdly spelled names? Shepard, Hawke, Ryder
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>>166297354
>Shepard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Shepard
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>>166297354
Shepard was a reference to Alan Shepard, https://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/k-4/stories/nasa-knows/who-was-alan-shepard-k4.html

Ryder is supposed to be a reference to Sally Ride, but they couldn't help themselves and turned it into RYDER. Because they're a bunch of Richards I guess.
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>ywn spent some comfy downtime after a mission with an exhausted femshep qt 3.14
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>>166296045

He hasn't said anything about doing voices for it and his IMDB says nothing about him being involved in Andromeda in any way.

>>166296124

You what? They've literally been in every game so far. We're not talking about 10 years here.
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>>166298445
Why is everyone's Femshep always a redhead?
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>>166299060
Default Jane's a redhead.
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>>166299060

Because it's the default femshep....
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>>166298926
That's said
It's a lot of fun going back to ME1 after you have become accustomed to his voice and intonation, and every so often going "hey wait this NPC with one line was Shepard"
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>>166299132
Was it that way in ME1?
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>>166298926
>You what? They've literally been in every game so far.

Right, so time to bring in some new voices.

>We're not talking about 10 years here.
You're right, it's been 9.
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>>166299272
>You're right, it's been 9.
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>>166299501
It wasn't at all clear whether you meant how long they've been voicing characters in the same game series, or how long it has been since the last game
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>>166299132
Even though blonde cute femshep won the popular vote. I'll never forgive them for forcing frecklebeast.
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>>166299501
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>>166299670
>>166299651

Guys, I literally just said they won't do voices for Andromeda, I didn't say anything about the first Mass Effect.

If you didn't realize I meant since the latest game you're in the wrong. Since that was the last time they voiced anything Mass Effect related. It would take a real mouthbreather to not understand.
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>ackshually
this fucking guy
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>>166299913
And what I'm saying is why do you need more voice work from the same actors that we've already had as part of three games? It's ok to bring in new VO and like I said, Clancy Brown is a good get.
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>>166299659
It was fucking stupid for them to think of changing femshep's look in the third game in the first place.

Imagine if they'd talked about changing sheploo's look
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>>166300101
>Imagine if they'd talked about changing sheploo's look
Nothing because fucking no one cares what their male character looks like
Are you a queer or something?
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All that said, you guys are crazy if you don't think Meer and Hale aren't going to have some tiny cameo somewhere.
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>>166299659
Because people threw a fit in how it was decided in a "beauty pageant" that went against everything Femshep "stands for" and shit.
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Would Femshep beat Motoko Kusanagi in a 1v1?
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>>166300765
Real talk, it was pretty fucking stupid. Regardless of what you think, Sheploo is the face of the franchise. Changing femshep at that stage is just needless and feels uneven.
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>>166300083

But Mark Meer and Seth Green are bro as fuck and funny.
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That male Ryder looks like a faggot. Nothing will ever surpass male Shepard face model.
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>>166301970
>t. Seth Green's mom
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>>166302417

What've you got against Seth?
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>>166301970
Seth was an annoying cunt in The Italian Job and I can't remember anything else he's done
Joker was also annoying at times but I guess that's down to the writers
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>>166302546
he's an annoying manlet, just like joker.
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>>166302576

>Implying it wasn't the writers fault in the italian job too.
>>
WHO DO I LEAVE?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12118113/r
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>>166302673
The writers wrote him as a nerd, Seth made it an unbearable annoyance all by himself
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>>166302576
he was fine in Buffy. But that show's aged very strangely
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just started ME1, babby's first bioware game

what to expect
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>>166302814

Yeah well I haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't know. But I think he did good as joker and when you watch interviews with him and shit he seems like a cool guy.
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>>166302806
>linking result page
How are you gonna get unbiased opinions that way you idiot
I wish it was possible to nuke both of them
>>166302926
A videogame
Just fucking play it, or make a thread on /v/ if you wanna do "GUYS WHAT AM I IN FOR" shitposting
feel free to ask if you have specific questions
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>>166302926
Your favorite character is shit.
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>>166302926
clunky combat, graphics that aged pretty badly, and a plot and characters that more than make up for that
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Doing a replay of all games, cant decide which class I want to play.

Should I go with Infiltrator or Vanguard which I've done before but are solid or try something different like Engineer and try to struggle through Adept.
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>>166303175
Do you want to play the same class in all games? If so, Vanguard is probably best and might be fun depending on when you last played the games
Otherwise go with Adept, they're OP in 1 and 3 and you'll just have to deal with being ineffective in 2
If you don't care about having the same class go Adept -> Soldier -> Adept
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>>166301258
The shitstorm blonde femshep caused was worth it. http://kotaku.com/5826702/fans-picked-the-blonde-in-a-controversial-video-game-beauty-contest-but-thats-not-a-bad-thing
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>>166303369
I dont remember can you change your class when you import the save?
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>>166303539
Yes, every game allows you to play whatever class you want even with an imported Shepard
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>>166303681
>>166303539
I should say though, any class is fine in ME2 unless you play on one of the highest two difficulties
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>>166301258
>Real talk
Fuck off
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>>166304029
How tedious are ME games on insanity difficulty??
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Why is it so hard to make an attractive femshep in ME, I give up at this point.
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>>166304469
>Implying Bioware artists are capable of modeling females.
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>>166304187
They're more boring on non-Insanity, no real challenge
Not that Insanity is particularly difficult anyway

>>166304469
Were you trying to recreate Kahlee Sanders or something?
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>>166304187
ME1 is bad at the start cause you start with shit weapons and have to fight insane encounters, but once you get some better loot it's fine and a lot of fun
ME2 is fun as a Soldier or Infiltrator, every other class is useless
ME3 is fun as fuck as any class
>>166304469
I think she'd look pretty good with better graphics
The entire face is a bit too wide, maybe
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>>166304469
Fair skin and jet black hair with bright green eyes
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>>166304753

FUCKING HELL MAN
You just described my femshep who I personally thinks attractive as fuck.

Also, bright green eyes masterrace.
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>>166304849
>>166304753
Well, black hair and light eyes is objectively the best combination
I remember being able to sit through DA2 because default femHawke was so fucking cute
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>playing anything else than a redheaded femshep
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>>166304717
No, just trying to make a qt is all. I wish you could have longer hair.
>>166304750
Tried making jaw/chin as "skinny" as possible. I already started the game but now I realize I think I may have put the eyes too close together.
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>>166305236
That character model got me to play ME3 again, since my femsheps looked like shit.
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>>166306142
>but now I realize I think I may have put the eyes too close together
I would have said they were too far apart from the picture of your character, but I'm absolutely horrible at making qt grills
Also, that girl looks like she's 15
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>>166306458
Fuck I think you might be right. I wish I could restart and fix. Too late I guess. I hope the citadel in ME3 isn't awful like in ME2. I miss ME1's citadel.
>Also, that girl looks like she's 15
Your point? Women are most attractive at the ages of 15-25. Anything past, and the looks begin to dwindle. I'm not a man so I can't speak for all of them, but there is a reason one of the most popular pornography tags is "barely legal" and "teens". I am aware MILF is popular as well, but on average, teenage girls are the apex of female beauty as seen in history and all of society and even most cultures. Also in my opinion, I think the girl I posted is very qt, I'd give anything to look like her.
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>>166307005
Never said she wasn't hot m8
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>>166307180
? I see, you made it seem like it was a negative thing that the girl posted looked 15. Typically people say that as a complaint.
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>>166307005
>I hope the citadel in ME3 isn't awful like in ME2.
Depends in what you expect, the Citadel is the only hub world in ME3, so you better like it.
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>>166307329
Yeah I was too lazy to post my entire reasoning for saying that, hoping that no one would make a lengthy post defending being attracted to teenage grills
My point is simply that you shouldn't model femshep off that face because she's way older
I like looking at qt characters as much as anyone else but that would just break my immersion every time I look at her
It's as silly as making her be an anime chick or something
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>>166307617
That is true, but when that 15 yr old in question gets older, the facial features stay the same for the most part, just wrinkles and sun damage for skin would mostly change. Usually the attractive traits for a female are small chin/jaw, heart shaped face, large eyes, long lashes, small curved a small bit upward nose. Anything else like a tan/dark skin or pale skin, short/tall, freckles or clear non marked skin, etc are just individual preferences that will vary, but the features listed above are usually seen in most "attractive" women.
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>>166308445
Looking at >>166306142 again
>small chin/jaw, heart shaped face, large eyes, long lashes, small curved a small bit upward nose
I guess zero out of five ain't too bad
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>>166308445
>15 yr old in question gets older
Getting older being 20-26 or something. Obviously as you near the ages of 50+ the nose and ears will noticeably change as they are cartilage and not bone.
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>>166308614
>0/5
In what way? She has a small tapered face, small chin, and a small nose along with long dark lashes. You can't seriously think she has a large nose, tiny eyes, barely any lashes, and a long rectangular face.
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>>166308842
>not having a small X means having a giant X
I stopped caring about this train of thought but I'd just like to mention this:
Her face is a rectangle, stop lying to yourself
Look at that jaw, want me to draw a line around it?
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>>166309081
C'mon now...
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>>166302926
The Star Wars of Sci-fi games.
The second one is the best.
But really, it's a masterpiece trilogy despite any flaws. Suicide Mission is the best final battle in any video game ever.
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>>166302926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5_mHgxSRzQ
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>>166309487
>Suicide Mission is the best final battle in any video game ever.
I hope you're joking. ME1's finale was miles better. ME2 was literally filler.
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>>166309656
Elevators part is invalid in PC version. Everything loads instantly at this point. Consoles a shit.
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>>166309487
>second is best

I wish reddit would just leave.
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>>166309243
Just look at how much the chin protrudes from the jaw in that "heart" pic
Also, I've never before seen anyone calling something this man-jawed heart-shaped
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>>166309830
This. Literally walking on the outside of the Citadel mowing geth away with endgame weapons and fully upgraded bionics was pretty rad.
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>>166309487
how much does EA pay you for shilling? really know, name your income. or do they just hand out origin points?
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>>166309830
Not joking. ME1 ewnding was a regular awesome video game final battle. Suicide Mission is something the whole game builds up to and in which your decisions can mean the deaths of your team members. Regardless of the fact that most people just look on online what the path of least casualty is, it is still something no other game has done before or since. Not even other BioWare games.

And it's objectively awesome through and through too.
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>>166235965
Lewd!
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>>166309937
The fuck do you mean by "invalid"?
Sure, everything loads instantly but that doesn't stop the elevator rides from being way too fucking long
That key binding to speed the game up 30x is great though, also helps for exploration
Oh man, remember the loading screens in ME2?
>holy shit why does my game take so long to load?
>get a mod for static image loading screen
>loading time is now 1 second
>turns out Bioware just always made the stupid loading animation play fully
Good times
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>>166310114
So no other game before has main/important characters dying? Nigga what? And it wasn't awesome, it was boring as fuck and anti climatic as hell. ME2 is shit compared to ME1. Get some taste, friendo.
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>>166310365
People were bothered by ME2 loading screens? It was a full animation but it's not like it was FFXV or something.
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>>166309487
>Suicide Mission is the best final battle in any video game ever.
baited me
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>>166310365
they last as long as dialogue is played. And when there is no dialogue, it just whatever time it takes for elevator animations to play, which is, like, 10 seconds or so. I guess I'm not ADD enough for that to be bothersome.
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>>166310365
>thinks ME2's loading screens are too long
You should play Dragon Age Inquisition, some maps needed 2-3 minute long loading screens
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>>166310067
>her
>man-jawed
Now I know you're just shitposting.
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>>166310525
I haven't played FFXV but I assume there it loads giant areas at once, not some narrow hallways with chest high walls
I'm certainly bothered by loading times being 20 times as long as they should be
>>166310675
>they last as long as dialogue is played
Nope
>And when there is no dialogue, it just whatever time it takes for elevator animations to play, which is, like, 10 seconds or so
Those 10 seconds are on top of whatever dialog happens
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>>166310723
You should buy an SSD.

The shitty thing about ME2's loading screens is that they have nothing to do with actual load times.
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>>166310502
No other games has you assign people to different roles in the final battle, which if you choose poorly they will end up dying, if you don't fully upgrade the ship they end up dying, and if you didn't finish their loyalty missions they end up dying. Even using common sense a lot of people get Mordin killed, for example, because they he's got the largest chance of dying in the final push, which is why it's advisable to pick him to lead back Chakwas' crew to the Normandy.

Most death in video games is predetermined story death, not something dependent on player action outside of binary choices on a conversation wheel.

I wish more games would do something like what the Suicide Mission did.
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>>166310732
You don't agree that she has a strong jaw? What the fuck, man
Is she your waifu or something? Sorry for apparently insulting a grill who you can't look at objectively
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>>166310931
>I haven't played FFXV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_hJYvyNBg
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>>166311090
Olivia Wilde and Angelina Jolie are examples of women with strong jaws. Not the girl I posted.
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>>166310723
Isn't that a bad PC thing, though? I was just replaying Inquisition a few days ago on Xbox I noted after FFXV that the load times are pretty fast for a game that loads big open areas. Never took more a minute to load a big area.
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>>166311314
There you go again with the extremes
>it's only a manjaw if it looks like the queen of manjaw
I'll let you get back to your delusion
Have a Yvonne to go
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oh bby
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>>166311802
>Bioware chicken out about nudity in 2 and 3 because of Fox News.
>CD Projekt Red gives no fuck and do it in TW2.
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>>166311802
Dem polygons.
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>>166312276
Based euro devs
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>>166312276
Bioware is a christian company who cares about the children. TW2 is for hedonistic sinners who have no control over their bad touch areas.
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>>166312425
DA:I had nudity
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>>166312640
No it didn't.
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>>166312725
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>>166312725
Yes it did.
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>>166312276
I was mad as fuck that they cut Desire Demons out of DA.
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>>166312909
So, they hired Leifeld to draw the models?
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>>166312909
>>166313081
No it didn't. That is a hedonistic sinful mod that someone created. Probably a screenshot of the modded video where right before, a gigantic orc alien will now come in with his giant horse genitalia and begin the rape.
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>>166313317
it's Liefeld.
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>>166313838
Why would an orc have horse genitalia instead of orc genitalia?
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>>166314117
Because the people who make those video game pornography videos are degenerate. They can't enjoy normal genitalia, for they are that twisted. Only horses.
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>the entirety of the Batarian fleet is worth barely more than the Normandy

LOL get fucked shitters
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>>166225546
>female krogan
okay
>ENGINEER
HOLD ON WHA-
>TEAM THAT BUILD THE NEXUS
WHAT.

>KROGAN
>DOING ANYTHING
>OTHER THAN KILLING SHIT
BIOWAAAAAAAAAARE
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>>166312909

I want to grope Cassandra's br*asts and caress her cheeks.
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>>166315739
calm down, senpai. She's just the janitor.
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>>166302168
how much did they paid him to be Shepard's face?
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>>166313317
Cassandra's head is also clipping through his arm. Either that or it's flat as a pancake. Or severed.

>>166314102
I'm pretty sure there's a joke in there, somewhere.
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>Femshep has the chance to fuck the last Prothean.
>Doesn't have the chance of slapping it on Liara's face.

why
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>>166315970
>br*asts
Shouldn't you be getting ready for bed kiddo, it's almost 7 pm.
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Miranda teasing you in her latex suit?
>http://i.imgur.com/JpanHSa.png
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>>166315406
Technically the barbarians got hit first right out of the gate, and got wiped out almost instantly.
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>>166315739
Krogan had a culture before the Salarians gave them the nukes they blew themselves up with, you know. Most of the violence is because the scattered culture because of the genophage. Look at them monumental ruins on Tuchanka. Someone built that shit. The Egyptians had their super smart priest class too, who were well versed in astronomy and mathematics.
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>>166316920
Not to mention Shep blew all their colonies to shit in Arrival so whatever ships they had there got wiped too.
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>>166315739
Every race except for probably the vorcha have scientists and engineers dum-dum
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>>166317435
Why do the vorcha always give me the feeling of australians.
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>>166317175
YOU BE SAYING WE WUZ CULTURED N SHIET?
DAMN
DA MAN IN COUICIL IZ KEEPIN' US DOWN
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>>166317175
>The Egyptians had their super smart priest class too, who were well versed in astronomy and mathematics.
SO
*smacks lips*
YOU WUZ SAYIN
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>>166317175
No, Mordin explicitly says that Tuchunka was already a nuclear shithole when the Salarians discovered it.
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>>166317771
Nah I'm just saying they're not biologically stupid. It's mostly a product of culture. A Krogan scientist does sound like a special snowflake, but it's not a lore-breaking impossibility.

I find the idea of Klingon scientists a bigger joke.
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>>166317723
oi mate, fuck off.
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>>166317896
I remember Eve and Wrex say that the Salarians gave them the technology and they were fine before that, then they destroyed themselves with it.
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>>166317896
If we blew each other to hell in the 60's and the only thing that remained would be scavengers living in post-apocalyptic wasteland, would that mean that humanity never was in a cultured state, period?
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>>166318178
>listening to this krogan propaganda

Krogan deserve the genophage. They had their chance and they nearly fucked it for everyone.
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>>166316212
>I'm pretty sure there's a joke in there, somewhere.
you will never know.
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>>166317896
It was a shithole but not a nuclear one. They started having a nuclear wars after they were uplifted. "Technology made life easy and we started looking for challenges in each other"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9HHqcEJUXI
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http://i.imgur.com/a1HGhVq.jpg
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>>166318452
Dalatras pls go.
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>>166318492
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Codex/Aliens:_Non-Council_Races#Krogan

>When the salarians discovered them, the krogan were a brutal, primitive species struggling to survive a self-inflicted nuclear winter.
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>>166313214
Desire demons was one of the few good things about Dragon Age.
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>>166315406
It's worth about as much (200) as three full strength human fleets (70 X 3) iirc. Not bad when the humans and batarians were on a similar level pre-war and the batarians were supposed to be nearly wiped out by the Reapers. The Normandy and its crew is just weighted weird relative to everything else. See also Jacob+Grunt+Kaidan being worth more than whole divisions.
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>>166318380
You missed the point completely.
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>>166319124
how would a primitive race inflict nuclear winter upon itself?
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>>166317419
He only destroyed one colony. A very minor colony of only 300,000 people.
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>>166318452
They actually didn't have a chance. Much like the Yhag, they were supposed to evolve and work out their aggression on their own, whether that would've killed them or evolved them was up to nature. The Salarians intervened because they needed a brute force against the Rachni.

It's much like how people move around rivers and then they wonder why there are floods.

The Leviathan were the ultimate trope of that self-absorbed Dunning-Kruger. Let's make an super AI to get rid of all super AI, and it will work because we are much smarter than others. Oh, what? Our super AI started killing us? *Gasp*.
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>>166320053
Weren't there multiple colonies in the system?
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>>166320062
The Leviathan were pretty much a band-aid to the whole starchild crap, so it wasn't supposed to make sense.
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>>166320216
Bullshit. The starchild explained the exact same thing just without name-dropping Leviathan. He explained he was created for that purpose as an intelligence. The DLC merely expanded on the lore in a hamfisted way.
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>>166319675
>The krogan evolved in a hostile and vicious environment. Until the invention of gunpowder weapons, "eaten by predators" was still the number one cause of krogan fatalities. Afterwards, it was "death by gunshot".

I'm not sure if you are intentionally playing dumb or not, but the codex is supposed to ne written by 22nd century perspective where the nuclear age is considered primitive, like we are considering cavalry tactics primitive while they were the height of military tactics up until the last 19th century.
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>>166320154
Nah, just the one. At the beginning of ME3 Anderson even specifically says that Shepard killed 300,000 batarians.

The loss of a colony of 300,000 to an interstellar polity of tens of billions is negligible. It's like the USA losing a small town of a thousand people to a tactical nuke.
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>no mission for colonist shepard to genocide batarians
wow thanks bioware
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>If only the council had listened to you sooner, Shepard.

Why would that have mattered? In terms of warding off the reapers I feel like a couple of years wouldn't have made a difference.
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>>166320760
The Arrival.
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>>166320760
>Sole survivor Shepard can't mention Akuze and Cerberus' involvement for the entirely of ME2.

wow thanks bioware
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>>166321470
Doesn't TIM say something like "uuuuh those were all rogue cells" for all the shit Cerberus did in ME1?
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>>166320843
They could have massively built up their fleets, which would pretty much invalidate the need to gather all those assets to protect the Crucible. Remember how big of a deal it was when you got three fleets from the turians?

Consider that, before meeting the Council and while not on total war footing, the Alliance was able to build 40 heavy cruisers/destroyers and 1 dreadnought/carrier per year while also building a multi-hundred million tons battlestation. And they've gotten stronger since then. More importantly, the Alliance is absolutely tiny compared to the industries of the turians, asari, salarians, and the others. Literally around 1% of the size of their combined industries if population figures are any indication.

Bare minimum they could have had several hundred extra dreadnoughts and thousands of extra other warships if they started a build-up at the end of ME1. On top of this, had they taken it seriously, the asari would have revealed their beacon early which contains the instructions for the Crucbile. So you don't need to grab it and you don't need to obsess over gathering fractions of fleets with these massive reserves. Then all you'd need to do in ME3 is grab the Crucible plans from Mars, help destroy/make peace with the geth, and I guess run special forces missions against Cerberus.
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>>166321470
I like that there were nods to Shep's background in ME3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWR4tNJwAqU
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>>166321725
Miranda does. And you can't call her out for some reason.
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>>166321863
Not even that. They could've just slapped the Crucible on the Citadel before the Reapers even arrive. The AI was housed on the Citadel all along, only the Reapers hibernated between the cycles in dark space.
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>>166321948
Spacer background has Hackett randomly going "yo your mum's alive m8" and during Citadel you call her
Also, that scene is so fucking retarded
"let's just make Shepard snap at Joker without any player input"
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>>166322158
They still needed to discover the Crucible plans though. Which for some reason doesn't happen until the beginning of ME3.

That'd be an ideal scenario. They discover the Crucible plans after the end of ME2. They begin construction. Given that it only took them two weeks to build it in ME3 even with devastated industry, the Citadel races will likely build it pretty quickly. Less than a month even if they take their time. They wait for the Reapers to arrive five months later. When they do, they fire the Crucible, destroying all the Reapers at basically no cost to the races of the galaxy beyond the need to repair the relays. Flawless victory.

Meanwhile, the quarians prepare to attack the geth only to discover that they've mysteriously already been destroyed. At the same time, Joker feels a ping of pain as he subconsciously realizes he will always be an incel.
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>>166321948
No, even non-War Hero Sheps get this scene, it's just Ruthless and Sole Survivors didn't rally the colonists against the Batarians.
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>>166317175
>had

>>166317435
it is specifically stated thoughout the games that krogan "intellectuals" merely research new weapons.
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>>166322778
They could get it with Vendetta (Thessia's prothean VI).
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>>166321725
Speaking of which, how about that fucking clone that the entire Citadel DLC revolved around. And then Shepard invited her to a party. She basically had that guy in storage all along for extra organs. Nobody called her out on it. I only just realized this now that I thought about it. That's how little address the game gave to it.
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>>166323247
Miranda specifically says she didn't know about the clone
Compartmentalization anon, you should learn about it if you ever want to be an evil mastermind
I'm assuming you mean Miranda because it is very fucking vague who you mean by "her"
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>>166321863
the deal with the Reapers was basically over after ME1. you stopped them from coming to the Citadel, they are stranded in dark space. its a self contained story, only shepards foreshadowing hints at a sequel.
so there was basically no need to build up a fleet since sovereign just got destroyed.
we dont know until arrival that the reapers are on their way.

how can the asari give the information from their beacon if they dont even themselves know which knowledge they contain?
the mystery gets solved in ME3 when you have your prothean with you.
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>>166323431
Ah right, yes. I deleted most of my post because I deemed it too long. I guess I ended up accidentally playing the pronoun game. Yes I meant Miranda.

But her father was also leading the reaper research center where they were turning soldiers into husks. and if the opening cut-scenes are anything to go by, she was a second-in-command for TIM, possibly knowing about more than just the Lazarus cell.

Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I wouldn't say her hands were as clean as Jacob's who was just a simple gun-for-hire trying to make a real difference after losing faith in the alliance.
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>>166323946
>accidentally playing the pronoun game
Fuck you, I heard a DING in my head
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>>166324097
I used to like that channel, but it has been shit lately.
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>>166323031
Did Vendetta know where the plans were?

If so then the entire issue (and the side issue of the geth) could have indeed been solved with trivial ease if they took the threat seriously.
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>>166226370
Danger of infection... but the prize...
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>>166325340
Well, it knew what the "catalyst" in the plans meant, so we could assume he had some knowledge about the crucible.
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>>166323946
>possibly knowing about more than just the Lazarus cell.

She definitely knew about more than the Lazaurus Cell. She says she knew about the Idenna raid, the Ascension project, and the creeper/husk/rachni experiments in ME1, bare minimum. She's also running various paramilitary ops for Cerberus in the comics.

In all honesty she's basically the ME version of Zawahiri and should be in jail for the rest of her life.
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>>166325582
Did Miranda even stop openly being Cerberus? There was that one scene in the end if you take her with you and you refuse to give the collector base to TIM, he orders her to force you and she says "consider this my resignation". But there wasn't really any lead up to it, like she didn't have any conflict with Cerberus or ant reason to side with you other than wanting your dick or being too open to peer pressure. She changed sides like "meh" just because you talked to her a few times and helped her save her sister.
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>>166326291
She has the same scene if your Shepard was pro-Cerberus, always agreed with the excuses she made for them, and never showed her anything bad about the organization that she didn't already know. So it seems she's just abandoning them because she thinks Shepard would be better at fighting the Reapers. Not out of any moral or ideological reasons.
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>>166326291
What was she even doing in the Lazarus project? Sure she was generically enhanced, but what was her job? Was she a geneticist or a doctor or bio-engineer or what? The more I think about it the less her character makes sense outside the context of hot-babe-to-fuk.

I guess the point was that she was kind of good at everything, but it doesn't feel like the game has actually proven than other than just talked about it.
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>finish ME1
>sit through the credits hoping for a bonus cutscene or something
>nothing, just logos and title screen
>click resume
>doesn't give me the option to finish the side content
>just starts me before the saren final fight

the fuck man
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>>166327313
before open world games really became the norm for big triple A games this was standard.
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>>166327313
This is like watching a movie from 2005 and complaining about no end credits scene
Also, did you like it?
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>>166327750
The ending was underwhelming and I feel a little cheated.

I also don't like that the game rushes you along giving you this giant sense of urgency so you can't stop and enjoy the side content without feeling like you're wasting time. At least let me do all that stuff post-game. I guess I can load an earlier save, but that still blows. I want to walk around the citadel with everyone kissing my ass over how awesome I am for something them.

Also I would've like a chance to reflect on the mission with the characters in my crew.
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>>166328454
saving them*
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>>166328454
>I also don't like that the game rushes you along giving you this giant sense of urgency so you can't stop and enjoy the side content without feeling like you're wasting time
On one hand you're right, this is a stupid video game trope that keeps appearing everywhere and it's stupid every time
On the other hand, this is a stupid video game trope that keeps appearing everywhere, you should know damn well that you can just fuck off to do the side missions
That said, hope you have fun in ME2 and 3 where seemingly completely random missions are timed and sometimes missions cut you off from side missions with no way to know in advance :)
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>>166328454
You can do that in ME2, talk about the mission later on and do side missions at the end, but it's a little underwhelming. The only thing your crewmates say is "oh I don't think you should've given them *that*" and then they run out of things to say again.
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>>166328454
You should have asked us while you were playing, anon. There are also checklists around the web that will tell you what missions are around and when they appear. I'm sorry you had a bad time.

>>166328741
What was timed in ME3? It's fucking annoying as shit when TIM demands you go do certain missions, but besides the Citadel getting rekt I don't recall being locked out of anything.
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>>166328741
ME1 and 2 are accaptable with the trope, but ME3 is just horrible

>Be quick Earth is being leveled and millions are dying by the hour
>Hold up there, i need to throw a citadel party and go explore the galaxy first.
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>>166328872
Meant to separate the part about TIM fucking your shit up in ME2.
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>>166328872
>What was timed in ME3?
Tuchanka bomb mission, if you uncover the fact that there is a bomb and then do a few missions, it explodes
I just realized the Turians said IF IT EXPLODES IT'S ALL OUT WAR BETWEEN OUR PEOPLE, but that never happens
Fucking Bioware

>>166328932
>>Be quick Earth is being leveled and millions are dying by the hour
>I'll be less sad about this than losing at Thessia
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>>166329092
>if you uncover the fact that there is a bomb and then do a few missions
T-thanks for the heads up
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>>166329092
Ah shit, I forgot about that mission. I usually do it straight away since the Turians are bros.
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>>166329286
Stop reading spoiler text you fuck, I went through the massive effort of hitting ctrl+S just for you
If you want actual ME3 bullshit spoilers: Do all the sidequests that are open to you before you start Priority: Tuchanka
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>>166329092

Grissom Academy is also timed
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>>166329092
>>166329620

Is rescuing Qwib Qwib guy timed?
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>>166329620
>>166329738
See, i guess it never occurred to me that these things were timed because they come along at about the time you're supposed to do it.
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>>166329620
>Fuck up Grissom Academy
>That log with Jack followed by the fight

Damn, I don't recall felling so mad at myself while playing a video game. I then reloaded and replayed the whole game.

>>166329738
If you do Priority: Rannoch then yes.
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>>166329738
There's really two types -

Actual timed missions are Tuchanka and Grissom, I think they have 2-3 mission counts before they fail.

In other cases, certain Priority missions are points of no return, and render missions lost if you complete them. Priority missions should always be done last, as backwards as that seems.
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>>166328932
>>Hold up there, i need to throw a citadel party and go explore the galaxy first.

This is why the JAM+CEM is good.

I also like to do all the story-relevant missions up to Cronos Station first, then do all the sidequest shit. That gives the impression that there's nothing vital for you to attend to and it's just taking a couple months to properly build the Crucible and gather fleets and resources while you run side mission, giving an overall slightly lighter feel. Matches the timeline better to. According to Joker, from the first time you talk to the Council to the fall of Thessia is only about two weeks, yet according to Shepard at the end of the game the whole game is ~3-4 months.
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>>166329620
No it fucking isn't
>>166330321
>Tuchanka
Do you guys think "timed" means "doing another mission will disable this one" and it applies both to the disabled mission and the one that does the disabling?
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Why did Gerrel flip into a douche? Qwib Qwib was the douche.
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>>166330921
>militant and rampant nationalism
>logic

Pick one. Without Shepard the Quarians would've thrown themselves at the Geth and all died. They can't even win the war unless Shep sides with them.
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>>166330890
>No it fucking isn't
If you do 3 missions before Grissom Cerberus take the place Jack is then kidnapped and brainwashed into one of Kai Leng's ninjas.

>>166330921
No, the circumstances were different, Korris projected his hatred of Tali's dad desire for war on her, but if you talk with him after the quest he'll apologize, otoh Gerrel was always the warmonger that wanted to destroy the Geth no matter the cost, which is apparent when you're in the middle of said war.
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>>166330921
If you actually talk to everyone, you find out Qwib Qwib was the good guy all along. He just didn't take any shit when it came to pushing his position.
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How did the Illusive Man get on the citadel?
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>>166330890
Grissom and the Bomb mission are both literally timed missions. When they become available to you, if you do three other missions, they are failed.
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>>166331190
No, that happens if you do Tuchanka before Grissom Academy
It's certainly possible that you did 3 missions, including Tuchanka, and never got around to doing Grissom
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>>166331238
He was indoctrinated. The Reapers let him in like they let the husks in.
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>>166331238
A shuttle probably.
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>>166331238
Very carefully
>>166331582
There were husks on the Citadel?
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>>166330921
Gerrel did literally nothing wrong, other than not being able to read ahead in the script like the player can.

>>166331190
>No, the circumstances were different, Korris projected his hatred of Tali's dad desire for war on her, but if you talk with him after the quest he'll apologize

Nah, fuck him. If he was so sorry he wouldn't have tried to get Tali (and Shepard) killed to begin with. Instead he only apologizes after Shepard makes him look like a fool. How convenient for him to find his morals at the moment that the people were going to start a riot after Shepard pointed out how borderline illegal his actions were.

He also tried to get Tali stripped of any legal representation and stack the deck against her before she got there, despite Tali being nothing but loyal and literally undertaking suicide missions for the admiralty board. All because he wanted to make a political point, and thought he could sacrifice other people to do it. The guy is absolute scum desu. If I didn't need him alive to lead the civilian fleet, I would never let him live.
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>>166331705
There were husks on Earth. The Reapers probably viewd TIM as another asset and let him move around in the Sol System. It was especially good if he was on the citadel trying to stop Shepard.
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>>166331759
>"Raan, I charged on the Geth without consulting anyone, protect me or everyone dies!"
>Nothing wrong.
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>>166331759
I don't know how you guys keep up with all those Quarian politics, when all the admirals started talking at me in ME3 I wasn't even sure whether I'd met half of them in ME2
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>>166331938
You did at Tali's loyalty mission.
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>>166331759
>Gerrel did literally nothing wrong, other than not being able to read ahead in the script like the player can.

Why did he think they were in a strong enough position to take on the geth? From Tali's loyalty mission they couldn't even recapture a single fucking ship from the geth without Shep coming to bail them out. Quarians are shit.
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>>166332001
Yeah my point is simply that they're all interchangable
I guess some want war and some don't but fuck me if I can remember which is which
I can remember the people who you actually properly interact with perfectly fine, like Koris or Kal'Reegar
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>>166331930
That action makes complete sense if you assume that the geth are hostile Reaper soldiers. Which any logical person would believe at the time.
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>>166332115
Probably because he was privy to the research on that weapon that let them slaughter the geth. It only fails because lolreapers.
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>>166332154
>Kal'Reegar
Why they killed him off-screen? Dude was awesome.
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>>166332154
>Kal'reegar
He got killed off because his VA is republican
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>>166332154
Xen is the mengele tier scientists who doesn't see the Geth are living beings and is fascinated with researching them.

Raan is the moderate voice that just wants peace prosperity for all.

Han'Gerell is the self-absorbed warmonger patriot.

And Korris is the one that wants peace with the Geth.

Tali is there too but she doesn't have an agenda other than trying to keep these fuckers from killing each other.
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>>166332780
See I know Raan as well because I recently replayed ME3 but I'd probably have forgotten her in 2 months because you barely interact with her other than to have information dumped on you
Did Xen even do anything during the entire conflict in ME3? I guess he's probably the one who invented that anti Geth grenade or whatever they were using before the Reapers upgraded them
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>>166333021
Xen is the one that wants to dissect Legion.
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>>166333021
>Did Xen even do anything during the entire conflict in ME3? I guess he's probably the one who invented that anti Geth grenade or whatever they were using before the Reapers upgraded them

It's stated that she invented the anti-geth weapon. Also she becomes a war asset after Rannoch and gives the mission briefing during the mission to rescue Koris. Otherwise, no.

She did literally nothing wrong.
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>>166332646
baldwin probably wanted too much money to come back/too many games where that nigga was dead anyway.
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>>166332646
Bioware's top level writing
Wouldn't be surprised if they simply forgot he existed until a very late stage in the development process or were just too stingy to pay Adam Baldwin
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>>166333163
Ah okay, random admiral you shout at because Legion is a bro
>>166333194
He's voiced by Adam Baldwin? Oh boy, can't wait to replay ME2 now
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>>166333021
She approaches you during Tali's loyalty mission if you have Legion with you, and is similarly fascinated with him during the meeting aboard the Normandy in ME3. She wants to dissect him out of curiosity or something.
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>>166333279
To be fair, he was a very minor character.
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>>166333279
Didn't they 'forget' a more important character and admitted it?
Wasn't it Thane?
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>>166333279
I can't imagine he costs that much
Speaking of, has Mark Meer done any other big VA gigs or is he doomed to obscurity from now on?
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>>166333862
He probably cost more than they wanted to pay for a character half the players wouldn't even encounter. He might have just been busy.
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>>166333862
IIRC he did some minor characters in DAI and Baldur's Gate.
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>>166334298
If we're going that minor, he also voiced one of the main character voices in DA:O
Since the MC is basically silent, that means recording about 10 lines or so for encountering enemies and such that only play once in a blue moon
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>yfw looking at Mark Meer's current projects on IMDB

wew, maybe he should start a twitch stream.
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>>166333279
>>166333194
Baldwin is also way too conservative for Bioware.
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A couple of new previews came out on magazines. No new info in them, they all have the same damn screens, and both articles say they weren't allowed hands on time with the single player. Is this game going to suck?
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>>166336561
>It's looking more and more clear that Andromeda galaxy has had a somewhat more violent history than the Milky Way
?
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>>166336561
Not necessarily. Skyrim was the same surprise too, despite being a big budget game. almost no info until release then I remember the threads on /v/ when it launched and we were all playing it an enjoying it. Getting punched into the sky by giants will never be a first time experience again.

I would actually be more afraid if they were desperately pushing some aspects of the game day and night because that's a diversion tactic to camouflage a shitty everything else.
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>>166336820
Pretty cool desu
http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2014/09/24/monsters-gobble-galaxies-to-grow/
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>>166336820
>Countless civilizations completely wiped out by the Reapers

How can you possibly top that, unless you go full Warhammer 40K?
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>>166336561
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3dUZ5g6cxmeYWlNLUJTdThXdHc/view

These guys had some hands-off time to play MEA.
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>>166337052
Skyrim had a hands on demo at Quakecon in August before it released. Maybe there'll be a demo for ME:A at PAX South later this week.
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>>166337056
The sun will probably burn out by that point so we wont have to deal with it at least.
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>>166337239
At this point I'd take knowing how the special edition stuff looks, at least.
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>>166337238
>These guys had some hands-off time to play MEA.

Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. They're only being allowed to play the MP.
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*hands-on

It's a PC Gamer article.
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>>166337323
>At this point I'd take knowing how the special edition stuff looks, at least.

After DA:I none of this deluxe edition shit sounds worth it. I'll pirate the soundtrack, but the rest is trash.
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>>166337482
Eh, the casual tempest clothes sound okay, I heard them tweet there are lots of gracious sex in Andromeda, so I wanna look as dashing as possible.

I merely hope the plot isn't DA2 levels of boring. That's the fear.
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>>166337765
I'll be happy as long as Cora is CUTE.

The setting for the game sounds intriguing enough. You get to a new galaxy, the arks all got kind of fucked up along the way (including the nexus), the planets you were headed to got fucked up in the 600 years it took you to get there, go find a new home. As long as they don't shoehorn some big ancient evil threat or get too retarded with shoving PeeBee down my throat I'll be fine with it.
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>>166337765
and to add to this >>166338126 w/r/t casual clothing. On PC there'll probably be 800 casual outfit mods before anything else gets modded. Same shit with DA:I.
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>>166338126
>The setting for the game sounds intriguing enough.

No it doesn't. the issue is science fiction needs to be either grounded or completely build up around it's own mythos. Examples of the former is star trek, human story in a human environment, expansion of knowledge. Latter is star wars, shit far away with no relation to known humanity.

Andromeda is an universe that set itself up as the former trying to get out a story that would require the latter. There's too much already established lore for the Mass Effect universe for all of it to suddenly not matter.

It's the Stargate Atlantis example. They'll need to bridge somehow it or else it'll be boring at default by context. I fear the transition isn't going to be smooth. They took on a big task, making the player not wonder how the Milky Way galaxy must be doing at this time period right now.

Especially knowing that ultimately the Pathfinder project was unnecessary because the Reapers were defeated. It's like Noah built an arc but then no flood came.
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>>166336561
Screw reading that font.

The galaxy map must have the same audio track, if not there will be blood
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>>166338817
I get what you're saying, by the same token. We can't compare to the Helius cluster to the full Milky Way. They're clearly going for a frontier feeling to this game and there are hints to the larger galaxy (like the Kett being an advanced species from another system invading).

All in all, I'm with you in that it feels like a mistake to just bin all the milky way work and start fresh and I feel like Andromeda is just a detour and we'll be getting back to it at some point.
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>>166336561
>raiders

I just realized that if you kill nearly as many human/turian/asari/etc. goons as you did in ME1, ME2, or ME3, you'll be killing a statistically notable percentage of the entire expedition's population. As there's only stated to be 20,000 people in the human Ark, and that's said to be "most" of the human population; that'd make ~80,000 people for the big four, maybe increase that by 50% to ~120,000 when you consider the minor races and extra of the big four in the Nexus.

Why are there so many raiders again?
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>>166338126
>I'll be happy as long as Cora is CUTE.

How are you going to feel when she has a side-cut
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>>166339819
>triggered

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW.
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>>166339819
horny.
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Do you ever see Leviathans enthralled soldiers during the final attack or just purely a war asset value?
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>>166339819
Reminds me of Inquisition's character creator. All hairstyles are fit to fight the patriarchy.
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>>166339746
game logic.
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>>166339487
Yes, but that works better if it's a Lost in Space story.

Like if a grand twist world be that the aim was to reach the Andromeda Galaxy but actually the ship's computer crapped itself and they were not frozen for 800 years or what but like 8,000,000, and they're actually off to the most distant part of the observable universe in some galaxy no one has ever even heard about.

Now that's a story. Or he ship entered a temporal anomaly and ended up in the Milky Way galaxy 40,000,000 years into the past, with the Reapers still around, and it's a downer ending but an interesting one.

But 'let's explore the Andromeda Galaxy for the heck of it" isn't going to make it interesting in the slightest, not even if they play it as a Lord of Flies story. And especially not if they pull a random Halo boss race out of their ass for it.

That's what I mean when I say it's a big task. Not an impossible one, just takes good writing.
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>>166339961
Somehow for a second I almost believed it was a genuine question.
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>>166337765
>there are lots of gracious sex in Andromeda
What? Is this true? You meant gratuitous, right?
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>>166339487
We're never getting back to the Milky Way, not the post-Reaper war one, Bioware will never establish one of ME3's ending as canon.
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>>166341197
A dev tweeted that there's a lot of banging in MEA, and it's all great.

I have no idea what Bioware constitute as "great" though.
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>>166341623
They'll do a reboot or some shit.
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>>166342004
Is it like the awkward fully clothed cuddling in ME2? That was painfully embarrasing for me for some reason. I don't know why, but whenever bioware attempts relationships and intimacy moments in their games I feel really uncomfortable and just want to skip through it. Awkward I think is a better descriptor. There isn't actual sex in ME3 is there? Or is it just implied through words like in ME2?
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>>166342247
Shepard some cuddling on underwear with a naked Liara, the rest I think it's clothed.
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>>166342247
Underwear and heavily implied secks
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>>166342352
I don't understand why how the same studio produced Dragon Age Inquisition. Maybe nudity in medieval context can be passed off as historical accuracy for christian moms, see Game of Thrones, but the idea of the future being more sexually free terrifies them.

I don't know. People are sometimes too fucking retarded for me to even comprehend them.
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>>166342247
Fully modeled high fidelity cocks and vaginas.
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>>166342648
Actually, the first ME caused some controversy on Fox or something because of nudity and FemShep x Liara lesbo stuff, so they toned down on ME2 and 3.

For some reason they went for the traditional way in DA:I.
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>>166342901
The ME1 blue lighting softcore scene was nice and tasteful
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>>166342901
It wasn't only Fox News, ME1 was actually banned in Singapore for a while because of the sex scene.
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>>166342901
sounds like we're going to get some turian titties this time around.
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>>166345010
but anon, turians dont have titties
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>>166345121
what did bioware mean by this
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>>166345245
oh fuck, uhh. then, i..i dunno. maybe they're little protrusions?

why the fuck do i like hooded turians so much? nyreen looks so......I don't know how to say it, but i do like it.
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>>166345245
>Funny bumps
Same way Liara paints her eyebrows.
Everyone wants to look human.
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>>166345445
>>166345451
I think one of the writers on twitter said it was just exoskeleton protrusions.
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>>166345451
>funny bumps
just as i was listening to cut dialogue for the Turian groundskeeper too.

pretty sure they have to be artificial or something, like >>166345707 said
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>>166345707
>>166345953
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desu that plate explanation sounds like a load of bullshit / or the art team just did whatever the fuck they wanted.
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>>166342247
The best romances are the ones that don't have sex scenes at all (despite Shepard and the LI being stated to bang frequently) and pretty much just cut to black before anyone takes off a single article of clothing.
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>>166347471
If Shepard doesn't romance anyone, does EDI's sex talk change or she just implies he got laid before ME1?
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>>166347703
Of not she assumes you're a virgin, scratch that, she'd know if you were
But no one else talks about your sexcapades, right?
Only Javik acknowledged my extracurricular activities
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>>166347471
Which romances is there with no fugging?
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>>166347703
> If Shepard doesn't romance anyone, does EDI's sex talk change

Does EDI reference who you are banging?

>>166347863
Who you're banging is referenced repeatedly in the Citadel DLC.
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>listening to Pandora
>Mass Effect station
>Garrus Theme, Mordin Theme, Samara Theme
>all fine
>sad song from ME3 plays
>reminded that none of my choices across all 3 games ever mattered and Bioware hasn't become any more competent as a developer and Andromeda is going to suck as much & probably more.

Where did it all go wrong for Bioware?
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I wonder:

Do Krogans and Turians have cloacae? Salarians do, they make mention of it constantly and they're lack of sex drive (focus more on egg culturing and genetics) reinforces it. Turians probably not, but Krogan? They can lay eggs and give live birth (ovoviviparous) but universal slang of "having a quad" implies they've got nuts hanging on the downlow
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>>166348014
>Does EDI reference who you are banging?
Not with me, she just says "I know you have had sex, so I would like your advice in beginning a relationship with Joker", something along those lines.
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>>166348014
>Does EDI reference who you are banging?
Haven't play ME3 for a few months, but after she gains a body and starts walking around on the Citadel with Joker she talks to Shepard asking for advice because Joker is hitting on her, then she mentions that since "Shepard has sexual experience" s/he would know how to deal with it.
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>>166348014
Only by the LI
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>>166347962
There's fugging in all of them, two (Tali and Garrus) just don't have actual sex scenes. Shepard and the LI basically just look at each other and the scenes cut to black. Then they indirectly say they fugged several times later but don't even do the "put on underwear and hump" thing that Ashley/Traynor/Kaidan/Liara/Cortez/Miranda/Jacob all do.

Pretty sure Thane is the same.
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>>166348183

Tali gives Shep a big ol kiss in the captain's quarters and Garrus has a sad moment
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>>166348172
>Only by the LI

Off the time of my had, having recently replayed that DLC with a Tali romance:

-Traynor comments on it when Tali talks about the first time she and Shepard met.
-James asks what she's got under the suit.
-Garrus asks if the party interrupted anything at the "Tali-Shepard lovenest".
-Traynor has a brief exchange with Tali when Shepard goes to dance that doesn't occur without a romance.

Pretty sure all these scenes apply to the others too. Also, in the base game, off the top of my head there's the various squadmate comments on the dreadnought, Ashley's comments in the hospital if you romanced her in ME1 and then someone Tali in ME3, and Legion's comment during the geth consensus mission.
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>>166348274
Those aren't really sex scenes like the others get though. The most sexual things that happen in either romance besides some suggestive flirting are a brief kiss for both (Tali's pre-Cronos and pre-collector base scenes, and Garrus's pre-Cronos scene) before it cuts to black. Garrus's ME2 scene there's not even that, Shepard and Garrus just bump heads and it cuts to black.
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>>166348438
>Off the time of my had,

How the fuck did I mangle this? Sorry.
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Hey guys! I've been on a /meg/ break since the holidays

what, other than a look at the new ship, is new?
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>>166348757
It's okay friend, I forgive you.
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>>166348438
I only got some cringeworthy fanservice with Kaidan, straight
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>>166348019
I'd say with the secuals. they're always the weakest of their trilogies. DAO: great, DA2: shit. ME: great, ME2: half assed.

I think the move to EA fucked 'em.
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>>166339819
I'd be pretty into it. Even better if she had a Chelsea cut like that qt pie in Green Room.
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>>166339819
You know, for some strange reason I don't think I'd have a problem with that.
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>yfw Cora is another name for Persephone
Are they doing anything with the mythology references, it's rife with them.
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>>166349086
That's odd. Guess they put effort into some than others.
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>>166349432
>Cora is another name for Persephone
What? how?
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>>166349630
Just is

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persephone
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>>166348836
So is the ship the only new info that's been released since the gameplay trailer? That's kinda sad.

Does anyone know when we're supposed to get some new info?
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>>166348183
Why all of them except those three? Tali I suppose I understand as she has to keep the suit on at all times. Garrus doesn't quite make sense and Thane doesn't make sense either. Maybe they were just too "alien" looking compared to the others so people would be bothered if there was a sex scene with them in it? Can't think of any other reason.
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>>166349793
Damn greeks and their shit.

You think Cora is gonna get kidnapped at some point? Thad be kinda cool.
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>>166349806
Honestly I just think Bioware was too lazy to create nude models for their species, especially since this is the only time that model would ever be used. Note that Ashley/Traynor/FemShep/maybe Liara and Kaidan/male Shep/Cortez all use the same same body model besides skin tone. Also note that Shepard's in his/her underwear in the pillow-talk scenes with Tali and Garrus respectively, while both of them are clothed.

Tali doesn't actually have to keep the suit on btw, she's stated to take it off to fuck Shepard. That was the whole point of her ME2 romance conversations. It's just not shown.
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>>166349803
Marketing is supposed to be ramping up about now, should get a lot of info very soon.
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>>166350126
Why was Liara the only one butt naked?
Is it because she's the favorite of Bioware, that obvious?
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>>166350482
Nice. I hope they reveal the other squadmates soon. As much as Im liking vetra I'd still like to see the other LI
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>>166349946
Naw, they never do anything interest with references
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>>166350482
Is that the man that I heard about a few years ago? The one with the whole controversy of what Bioware did to him?
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>>166350482
Why did CDPR hire this fat faggot again?
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>>166350574
Her sex scene is the longest and most "cinematic" as well, so probably. Mac or someone else high up really wants you to love his waifu.
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>>166350913
It had biotics too wtf
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>>166346290
They wanted tits on the birds, and they got tits on the birds. The explanation came later. The point is the tits on the birds.

Do you mind the tits on the birds?
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>>166350871
Good question, they quickly fired the fat fuck though right?
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>>166346290
Maybe the tit plate on that armor piece is already pre defined in the material as cups and meant for a human? That looks like leather as well so it's entirely possible.
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>>166348601
That head bump is a more romantic that most of the sex scenes though.

Jack, Tali, and Garrus and the best romances. Miranda, Ashley, and Liara is just fucking.
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>>166351836
Garrus romace starts out as just the two of you "relieving stress" like some degenerate whores. I was lied to, I thought I was going to get a cute and pure romace and instead I got some slut.
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>>166351986
Nah. Garrus romance starts off long before they get to that point. Just like Tali for maleshep, Garrus is written to behave a lot differently with femshep from the first moment they meet again.

Both are written as if they started developing a crush on Shepard in game one but didn't move on it.
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>>166351836
>That head bump is a more romantic that most of the sex scenes though.

Tali's exchange with Shepard before facing the Destroyer on Rannoch followed by their conversation after geth/quarian peace is probably the most romantic scene in any of the romances.
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>>166352205
>Both are written as if they started developing a crush on Shepard in game one but didn't move on it.
I've only ever played as male Shepard and I never once felt that when talking to tali
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>>166352391
Tali's dialogue is actually the same with both Shepards up until the conversation that actually starts the romance, though Kelly, Kasumi, and I think some others do have different dialogue where they say Tali is crushing on Shepard off-screen.
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>>166352523
I've heard Kelly say something like that but I thought it was weird since I only speak to her once after every main mission in ME1
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>>166352205
>Garrus is written to behave a lot differently with femshep
>developing a crush on Shepard in game one
No? I played femshep in game one and he never acted like he had a crush on her. Kaidan seemed more like he had a crush if anything even when I barely ever spoke to him. This seems more like wishful thinking on your part desu. Unless you can name specific actions/parts where he seemed this way.
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>>166352391
It becomes more apparent when you play with femshep too. Check these two videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTekFTTT4Ro

>Whatever happens... it's good to have you back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcl9mcj9Wi4

>Good luck. See you on the far side.

Same dialogue choices, different response, different intonation, different emotional load.

There are more scenes that show increasing interest too. These is still a tamer one. The mission you pick her up on, later, her video logs are basically "I wish Shepard was here."

Garrus has similar changes. After getting half his face blown off:
>Male shep: I always got all the girls, about time you got a chance too.
>Femshep: Some women find facial scars attractive...
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>>166352391
>Tali's dialogue is actually the same with both Shepards up until the conversation that actually starts the romance

Nope. >>166352936
There are actually lots of small changes of dialogue. Shows how much thought went into the game.
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>>166353053
>>166352936
Huh, never noticed that.

>The mission you pick her up on, later, her video logs are basically "I wish Shepard was here."

That's one log, and I'm pretty sure she says the same thing if Shepard is female.
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>>166352689
No, no, no. I don't think there were any scenes in game one. I don't think it was even planned. Maybe perhaps. I'm saying ME2 was written like that. That's what I got from noticing the subtle differences between dialogue and behavior.

It looked like they're pulling the ages old cliche of losing someone you didn't realize was important (Shepard dying, years away from the team).
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>>166348019
Man, that animation is so horrible, holy shit. Her face is so dead and lifeless, motions lack any force or weight, it seems the guard just hands the pistol over. Who the fuck approved this?
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>>166352936
>"I wish Shepard was here."
I thought that was weird too. Like "bitch you hardly know me"

>>166353053
I really don't like how a game where my choices supposedly matter, forces a LI on you.
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>>166353259
>and I'm pretty sure she says the same thing if Shepard is female.

I'm pretty sure with femshep she says "I wonder what Shepard would do", because I remember her saying that too.
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>>166353418
I don't think you can call this forcing. People can express their feelings for you and you can say no, you know.
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>>166353289
With Mass Effect 2 I think you may be right, it seemed a bit odd to me that femshep seemed a bit bored when meeting Tali for the first time in two years but with Garrus she throws her arms open and acts all excited. Are these reactions the same from male shephard?
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>>166353418
Those are just subtle changes that make LI more believable if you wish to pursue them. It doesn't force shit on you.
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>>166353607
Yep.
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>>166353607
Slightly. The meeting with Garrus is the same I believe, his shit starts when you get her on the ship. I think they didn't interrupt the narrative of the sudden reveal that he was Archangel. I could find videos of those two, but I think the difference there is only in the voice actor's intonation, the text is verbatim the same.
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>>166353612
Then where was that with the other ones? if they put that much more effort into those two specific romances why didn't they do the same amount of details with the other ones?

Nah man that shit is baised as hell in tali and garrus's favor
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>>166353801
It seems pretty clear that Liara was receiving far higher priority than any other romance throughout the series. Tali/Garrus probably come second though. Then Kaidan/Ashley, then all the edgelord characters from ME2.
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>>166353801
Liara and Kelly are bisexual, there's no need for different dialogue there, and Miranda and Jacob are not very well written romances in the first place. Slapped on subjective opinion. Jack I believe is very good, but her romance dialogue for femshep is simply locked behind missing dialogue wheel options. If I recall correctly.
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>>166353801
>biased with Tali
Are you not aware of Liaras existence? It's kinda hard not to be man with the way she's pushed on both male and female shepard. If you're going to talk about forced here, it's Liara, not Tali.
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>>166353801
>>166353945
Better question is, why no Wrex romance? That would be the best.
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>>166354003
Prolapsed asshole
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>>166353987
It's both of them
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>>166354003
Wrex is seen as too far out design wise. People would complain about bestiality. And most do not find Krogan attractive, so it would be a waste of money to write a romance for him.
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>>166353987
Liara is absolutely "please fuck me dashing hero because I'm a 150 year old virgin". I guess you could call that forced but I'd see it as her being the one forcing it, in-character.
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>>166354003
>implying wrex is attracted to squishy humans
>implying he would bother with any human when he is drowning in quad-vagina
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>>166354067
Wrex has a prolapsed asshole?
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>>166354209
He'd fucking give you one.
And you'd enjoy it.
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>>166354345
I like the idea of wrex having a prolapsed asshole more.
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>>166354067
>>166354102
>>166354118
Bullshit weak-ass excuses. It's like you don't even want to get a quad-load right in your rectum.
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>>166354814
I can just buy the devils buttblug at the sex shop round the corner
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The problem I had with any ME romance was never the girls. It was always Mark Meer. I just can't take him seriously, he sounds super fucking fake about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKNKfwSFFNA

Like, pretentious.
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>>166355273
Tali's voice acting is great though.
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>>166355273
I can see why his hearts not in it.
I'd feel dirty saying romance lines, plus my voice is utter shit
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>>166355125
But there is no immersion without Wrex whispering sweet nothings in your ear in the process...
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>>166355346
It is. It's very obvious that the recorded the romance dialogue options separately though, because the intonation is completely different from basically everything else that she says. It botheres me a little bit, it's almost as if you can always select out by hear alone which dialogue options are different if you have romanced someone. If I recall, instead of "Wherever you go I go" she normally says "What kind of friend I would be if I didn't back you now?", which in like thematically with the preceding three sentences. That mood whiplash is a bit shitty about ME. DA:I suffered from it too. Suddenly you're talking with someone causally, but then your character says goodbye affectionately when you cancel out of the conversation because the game registered that you're putting in "romance points" with those characters.

Just one more narrative element to improve upon.
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This shot was so cool
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Im not as sure why I took this screenshot
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Dr. Karin Chakwas is a gift to mankind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEkgyoHAYQ0
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>>166356861
>playback on other sites has been disabled
Why do people do this
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>>166352689
There is a subtle difference. I mentioned it earlier in this thread but basically in ME2 when Garrus comes out with his new face band-aid his response to maleshep is to just roast the man claiming that it's Shepards turn to start picking up chicks whereas with femShep Garrus says "You know, I hear some women like men with scars~" which comes off as pretty flirtatious, especially in the way the line was delivered.
I didn't even know you could romance Garrus at the time but figured it out once he said that so it was probably done with that exact intention.
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>tfw you realize how much muh DLC ruined ME 2

>tfw you realize that Liara's arc should've been the finale of act 1

>tfw you realize that the collector base should've been the Virmire of the game

>tfw Act 3 should've been a fleshed out Arrival

I get that they were trying to pasta the atmosphere of Kotor 2, but it could've been so much better.
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>>166359145
>hell Garrus you were always ugly, slap some facepaint and it doesn't make a difference
I was terrified of starting romance that I said this
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>>166359443
>tfw wanted to romance Garrus and still said that because he actually has a sense of humor.
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>>166359286
I like this train of thought.
I remember it got ridiculous how they kept churning crap and they had to push Arrival to tie Shepard to earth and add a sense of urgency. According to the artbook it was supposed to be a underwater mission for some reason. Instead they ended up copying themselves and Bring down the Sky from ME1.
They just can't write properly
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>>166359524

Truly best bro

>tfw first time as Femshep
>tfw just started his romance in ME3

Shockingly good writing from Bioware tbqh.
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>Garrusfags
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>>166360116
wow rude.
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>>166360116
Someone shot down this post like 2 threads ago though.
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>>166360116
garrusfags on suicide watch
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>>166360116
Thanks for the redpill, it all makes sense now.
He also is needy for validation, always bringing up the good old times, I never brought him along and he really tries to be a mate.
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>>166263047
aww yea! new game, new shepard
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>>166360813
They always get fish lips though
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>>166360813
interesting face
post more of her
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>>166361637
Don't have much only just started the game
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>>166362108
Who did you end up banging in ME1?
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>female krogan engineer

kek maybe in a timeframe post Reaper War but not during
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Tbqh, Jacob could've been bro-tier and based if they replaced him with Jake while grafting elements from his backstory onto Jake.

>N7 Spectre candidate gets disillusioned with the Alliance after they let the council ignore and shit on Shepard's legacy after they die.

>Chimps out and joins Cerberus to make a difference after concluding that SPECTREs are just Council hacks.

>Depending on your Paragon/Renegade decisions, either rejoins the Alliance (que Jake's vanilla ME3 story) or stays with Cerberus (que Jacob's vanilla ME3 story)

Also it's clear Bioware realized this
>Jacob
>Jake

It's like Lucas poetry except even more awful.
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>>166362823

>que

FUCKING AUTOCORRECT NEEDS TO BUILD THE WALL REEEEEEEE
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>wake up from the night of heavy drinking
>haven't been on /meg/ for some time
>probably shithole
>most of this thread is an actual if somewhat primitive discussion
The fuck happened here
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was he >>166362823 autistic?
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>>166363156
meg is always better without you
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>>166239236
It's linked to your hardsuit HUD and generates a point-of-aim crosshair. There is a scope, but it's not needed for most shots. Also, most engagements in ME take place under 100 meters and people just shoot from the hip and keep the gun set to full retarded to overwhelm barriers and ablative armor.
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>>166363273
You may be right. I should test that idea and do some shitposting later
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>>166239236
In ME1-ME2 there was a sight/scope on every weapon that took the place of iron sights.

In ME3 this was removed so the scope mod wouldn't look weird.
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>>166363198

>Discussing character development ans Bioware hack writing in an rpg general

>autistic

Stop hacking /meg/ faggot
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>>166320062

Really Krogan were fucked up before the frogs got there. They had discovered atomic power then nuked the shit out of themselves (ME2 codex) to the point that the blood rage that was previous a rare mutation and mental disorder became something that every survivor had.

Tuchanka is radioactive ruins because the goddamn Krogan fucked it up. It's nothing the salarans did.
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>>166364165
are Krogans supposed to be russians or africans?
'tuchanka' sounds slavic
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>Tali is one of the best characters in the whole game
>has the best personal mission in the whole game
>forms a compelling bond with Shepherd
>cute flirting at the end of her loyalty mission
>cute romantic stammering
>"Wow, it's really hot in here"
>all her romantic dialogue after that is complete fucking schlocky teen novel garbage
>like they did to Ash in ME1, ruins best girl of ME2

WHY DO THEY KEEP DOING THIS?!?!?!?!?
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>>166364661

>Slavs
>Not white Africans
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>>166364661
Their backstory somewhat resembles Japan. A previously self-contained society of feuding clans with a high emphasis on honor and the military has superior tech introduced by an outside power, is 'uplifted', rapidly industrializes, becomes a respected peer power for a while, and then goes crazy expansionist spree that ends in the bloodiest war in history and is only eventually solved by the deployment of a WMD.

Their names and clothing are vaguely Bedouin (their women have burkhas), which also somewhat fits their backstory (were equipped by and fought for a more advanced power in exchange for land and autonomy), fractured nature, and the arid climate of their homeworld. Plus the joke in ME2 that krogan are viewed with extra suspiscion by the ME equivalent of TSA.
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>>166364852

>Post ME1/DA:O Bioware
>writing

All they care about is muh quips now anon.
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>>166364879
nice menes /pol/
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>>166364852
>>all her romantic dialogue after that is complete fucking schlocky teen novel garbage

Don't know what you're talking about. Her romance dialogue with Shepard in ME3 is great; usually fun and lighthearted (e.g. banter on geth dreadnought), but quite touching when it needs to be (e.g. conversation after destroying/making peace with the geth). Feels like two people who are close friends in addition to being lovers. Similar to Garrus.
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>>166364920
>high emphasis on honor
>Japan
muh nobel samurais
it's a meme
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>>166365047

Just wanted to see if any other /pol/acks were here :3
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>>166365102
Japan being obsessed with their definition of honor is not a meme. Bushido is a meme.
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>>166365053
I was talking about ME2.

Yes, in ME3 it's great. But ME2's is soooooooooo cringe.
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>>166365245

Tbf that's probably because they never intended her to be a potential waifu and only did so due to the ME fanbase having a rare and overwhelming sense of patrician taste.
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Why did Shepard suddenly turn into a meathead marine in ME3?

>I'm just a soldier, no politician.
>This isn't about strategy or tactics, just survival.
>The only thing we can; we fight or we die.

Just in the first five minutes alone. Oh boy, can't wait for all the REEEing about Earth and wanting to stay behind to fight, even though, as Shepard should very well be aware, that would just mean a pointless and wasteful death.
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>>166365245
I suppose so. Her stammering and hero-worship demeanor for those few conversations in ME2 always did come off as weird to me, considering how at odds it is with both her confident and extroverted personality in the rest of the game and her romance in ME3. I guess the in-universe reason is that it's a combination of her not knowing how to proceed due to having zero experience in any kind of romance, and her being emotionally drained by Haestrom + Alarei.

imo Garrus's ME2 romance pulled off the same general story slightly better, even though Tali is a much better character than Garrus.
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>>166365385
The beginning of ME3 is the second most shoddily-written thing in the series behind the beginning of ME2. It's pretty much just non-stop idiocy on Shepard's part. To make matters worse it's pretty much all autodialogue so you don't even have the option for Shepard not to say dumb shit.
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>>166365490
>much better
I mean I love Tali, but Garrus is literally the best character in the entire series, WTF are you talking about.
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>>166365053
Also if you made poor life choices and romanced Ash in ME1, her getting snotty about you dumping her for Tali in ME2/3 is good
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>>166365551
I thought we had all agreed the ending was the worst and everything else, not matter how bad, comes after.
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>>166365385
>Oh boy, can't wait for all the REEEing about Earth and wanting to stay behind to fight, even though, as Shepard should very well be aware, that would just mean a pointless and wasteful death.

For what it's worth that doesn't happen, once you're off Earth it's not the focus beyond the abstract "unite allies to save Earth when the time is right"
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>>166365551
At least in ME 2 you can say 'well, he did just have catastrophic brain damage'
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>>166365385

It's addressed thoroughly as the game goes on. Honestly I'm pretty sure the only reason they made Shepard so out of character sometimes in the prologue is to attract normies. (Also why they included Vega.)

All of those meathead moments are given context later. (Shepard, even after being proven right multiple times and trying to communicate to the Alliance and Council the magnitude of the impending threat in esoteric tetms and being laughed at decides to essentially go full Rambo and lays out the stakes clearly at the most basic level.)

You can even give shit to people throughout the game about it.
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>>166365385
For what it's worth, at one point they considered having the opening of the game being Shepard facing trial for his actions with Cerberus and what happened in Arrival and having to justify his argument about the Reapers.

They eventually figured, not incorrectly in my opinion, that people don't want to start an action RPG with 30 minutes of courtroom drama.

So they slam through that scene, but end up making Shepard look like a blunt oaf a bit in doing so.
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>>166365717
I think it's more that with the Reapers hammering though the Aucturus choke point the Systems Alliance is dead and nothing anyone in that room does means anything. He really should just have walked out.
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>>166365926

>He really should just have walked out.

Nah. As much as Shepard hates incompetent authorities, he's also a pragmatist. The Alliance and the Council are finally willing to listen. He knows the only way now to prevent his waifus from being incinerated or dissolved into paste is to humor the Untermenschen and save the galaxy (AGAIN).
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>>166365610
Does she get snotty? If you talk to her about it in the hospital she says she understands why Shepard moved on and that she totally approves of him and Tali being together.

>>166365561
Garrus is alright, but he has no relevance to the plot, an overall bland and passive role and personality, and his forced bro crap is pretty annoying the same way it is for Liara.
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>>166365112
/meg/ is pretty /pol/ friendly, we want to make space great again. It's a shame Bioware won't let us.
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>>166366065

Tbf, Garrus being a bro makes complete sense. Humans and Turians are repeatedly shown to have a kawaii, tsundere relationship. They're more similar than either race is to anyone else in the galaxy and have had a grudging respect for one another since the First Contact War and have similar views on the other races. Besides, Garrus is one of the most 'human' Turians, while Shepard, in contrast to Ashley or Pressly, is one of the most 'Turian' humans.
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>>166365112
We're all around you, brother.
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>>166366151
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>>166366065
Both Ashley and Liara throw shade at Tali during the Geth dreadnought mission when you get her back as a squad member if you romanced them in ME1 and Tali in 2. Ash is a lot more blunt about it, although with Liara, Tali kind of provokes her first.
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>>166366374
That only happens if you don't commit to Tali beforehand, iirc.
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>>166362823
who is Jake?
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>>166366374
>>166366456

>Bioware makes ME3 porn

>ends with Liara and Tali getting #REAPER'd by Harbinger while Shepard, Garrus, and Vega watch.
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>>166366456

There's a bunch of variations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32epDXPtJVc
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>>166366560

Meant James tbqh. Drunk af
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>>166366626
>drunk
Wha are you, ostrayan?
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Objective bland-ish male human soldier squadmate power rankings:

1. James
2. Kaidan
3. Jacob
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>>166366727
>Jacob not taking up the whole ranking


Don't talk shit about my husbando
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>>166367871
Garry's Mod was a mistake.
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>>166366353
Love that moment. Also it's kewl how the council disapproves of your every action. Kill the rachni queen - bad, spare her - bad.
Also why humans only battled for some monies after the First Contact and haven't tried tur(k)ians for war crimes?
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>>166367871
That gun couldn't even penetrate a kinetic barrier!
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>>166368006

>haven't tried tur(k)ians for war crimes?

Because the ME timeline is predicated upon a Trump victory (humans going for a space Reich instead of offering human grills to Turians for peace) and Turians are nationalists, and so are natural allies against the globalist Asari and perfidious Salarians.
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>>166369287
Wouldn't it be easier to put pressure on them? Like Jews with, well, whole world.
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BLOW THEM UP
DRAIN THE PRESIDIUM
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>>166360116
Makes me wish nihlus took his place.
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Man, Infiltrator is stupidly overpowered in ME3
Especially after you acquire Flare
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>>166370554
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>Garrus is passive and bland
When will this meme die? He's beta as hell but he's not really passive seeing how most of his views are genuinely fucked, never change no matter what you tell him, and should PROBABLY bother you if you're not playing a renegade Shepard. As for being bland, that's more a matter of taste to be honest seeing how you can argue most characters are bland in this series for the exact same reasons someone might find Garrus bland save for maybe Mordin, Wrex, and Tali who's personalities are loud.
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>>166369569

>A species dedicated to it's own integrity with milennia of experience in galactic politics and a military capacity deemed unassailabe for the foreseeable by even humans - a specials capable of shitting out dozens of heavy cruises, their frigate escorts, and a dreadnaught every single year while on a peacetime-footing

>susceptible to pressure
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>>166371682

>when autocorrect shits up your would-be constructive post so much that it's only suitable for the interspecies breeding grounds.
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>>166333194
Baldwin said they never contacted him for 3.
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>>166243926
That's a really mean statement about Traynor

I suggest you apologize
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I feel like we should reboot MEGSEV, start over, those days were the best
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>>166366579
>Shepard:Let me know if you need someplace louder to sleep
>Tali:Hmm

>Javik:I don't understand
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>>166371939
Good riddance, he's trash. Alan Tudyk was the only actor worth a shit who ever came out of the whole Firefly/Serenity garbage pile.
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>>166244028
If anyone in Andromeda is like Sera or Vivian I am I hope Ryder can kill them possibly by feeding them to Varrens.
>Inb4 3 Edgey
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>>166374206

YOU TAKE THAT BACK FAGGOT.

'Big guy' Jayne, River, and Book were pure kino.
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>>166374279
Bioware games usually let you decide which crewmates you keep besides the starter squad

I told Sera, Vivienne, and Iron Cuck no when I first met and probably had a better experience with the game than most people
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>>166374279
>PeeBee is a required companion on every mission in a remnant vault and half the story quests.
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>>166374365
>'Big guy' Jayne, River, and Book were pure kino.

This is not dead careers general. Fuck off, brownshirt.
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>>166374279

>yfw the not!Prothean antagonist race is an honorabru Native-American analogue with technology folded over 1000 times that only wants Milky Way Imperialists out of the galaxy

>yfw 'Large Xeno Hyman Collider' Ryder becomes sympathetic to their cause by the end of the game

>yfw game 1 ends with the Andromeda colonists establishing contact with the Milky Way only to find out that a Human-Turian-Krogan Reich that is LITERALLY WORSE THAN HARBINGER has taken over the Milky Way and reveal their plans to genocide Andromedans for post-Reaper Lebensraum

>yfw the species you've come to love were the monsters all along

>yfw game 3 is Ryder rallying Andromedan natives to fend off the FUCKING MILKY WAY SENTIENTS
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>>166374774
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>>166374279
I actually quite liked Vivienne as a character. Was probably the only one that was decently written in that game, and didn't have a personality that they'd used five times already in previous games
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>>166374946

VIDF detected
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>>166364661

Tuchanka sounds like the word "Tachanka" which was a russian horse carried machinegun during WWI
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>>166375468

Poetry
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>>166374997
Too bad she makes for the shittiest Divine
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New Andromeda gameplay when?
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>>166374774
One thing that bothered me, the Leviathans and the Catalyst claims that everytime that Organics build Synthetics the latter rebels and murder the creators and the Catalyst claim that they would follow to wipe all organics in the Galaxy.

Then why even with 1 billion years without "lol Reapers" there are still organics in Andromeda? Bioware is disproving its own philosophical theory?
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>>166376006
This week is PAX South. IGN's supposed to start their month long 'deep dive' into Andromeda at the end of Jan/Beginning of Feb so there's probably some tie in with that. In other words, SOON (tm)
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>>166376074
The whole organic vs synthetic stuff was retarded anyway.

It baffles me how writers don't realize that "deep and complex" themes don't work unless you have a "deep and complex" storyline.
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>>166376250
That is acceptable.
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>>166371659
no one said he's passive, he just isn't very forthcoming when it comes to Shepard. He does what Shepard tells him and that's it.

>>166371856
stay on twitter and the like then.
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>>166356540

Cute.
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>>166374774
it all makes sense
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>playing Omega DLC for the first time
>kind of starting to want Aria to sit on my face
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>>166378809

I want all female characters with a nice butt to sit on my face. Like Samara, with that thick blue butt.
>>
I want to invite my waifu up to my cosy sleeping quarters and talk for hours.
>https://youtu.be/gpvznAiKblU
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>>166378959
Samara belongs to Zaeed you sicko.
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>>166345245
Turians have long chests. When pictures of Nyreen were first shown before Omega DLC was released, some fans were asking if those are actually boobs since they don't make sense on a non-mammalian species and Bioware responded that no, it's not boobs.
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>>166379569
>""ships""

Groce Tumblr shit.
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>>166379707

see >>166346134

and

>>166346290

The art team doing whatever they fuck they wanted being the more likely explanation.
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I wanna do a final """canon""" playtrough, cant decide a shep though, help me /meg/ pls

>Default sheploo, paragade, fucks Kaidan
>Adept fshep, renegade, fucks Garrus
>Vanguard fshep, paragon, fucks Liora
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>>166271260
I'm pretty sure that N7 shotgun she uses on that big ass robot is one of them. Looks kinda like it'd work like the plasma shotgun or the disciple.
>>
Reminder that shooting Mordin and stopping the cure for the genophage is the only right decision
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>>166380674
nah. right decision is trusting Wrex and Eve if they're both alive, shooting Mordin if you fucked up and got one killed, and having him go into hiding if Wreave is in charge
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>>166366151
What
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>>166378809

>not wanting Aria to sit on your face the first time you meet her in ME2
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>>166380294
none of those, also you didn't pick a class for your sheploo

male shep sounds the best going almost full paragon, while you want to go paragade or renegon with femshep. Renegade romance with Garrus feels really strange, because they were too lazy to code different responses for him, so he's still got your back entirely as you casually fuck up everything important. And romancing Liara is just a mistake. Kaidan's ok, but not really my cup of tea
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>>166380294

Canon is default Sheploo paragon soldier fucks Liara across all 3 games destroy ending.
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>>166380294
first one. now fuck off.
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>>166381463
Canon Shepard doesn't choose a ending because he plays JAM with CEM.
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>>166381463
canon is one of the following:
sheploo paragade soldier, fucks Tali, destroy
sheploo paragon vanguard, fucks Kaidan, destroy
femshep paragon soldier, fucks Garrus, destroy
femshep paragon adept, fucks Liara, destroy

at least, i'm pretty sure that's what polls showed before BSN died.
yes, i know that's a shitty site to pull data from, but it's the only one I know actually tried to collect that data
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>>166381523
Thats not very kind anon
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>>166381736
>sheploo paragade soldier, fucks Tali, destroy
Damn i'm mainstream
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>>166381736
>implying Bioware's canon is anything besides Shep Soldier/Liara/Synthesis ending
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>>166382674

I didn't see green wires all over people's skin in Andromeda promos or gameplay trailers so I think it's destroy.
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>>166383040
The endings dont matter in Andromeda
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>>166235965
I took the liberty of making a screenshot.
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>>166383040
Andromeda Initiative launches out of the milky way around the end of ME2.
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>>166383239

I already did.
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>>166383239
Should save it for the new bread. Who's going to bake it?
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>>166383239
>>166383378

It reminds me of the fic with Miranda. We've had some true gems coming out of /meg/.
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should i get dragon age origins lads i'm really conflicted

will it fill the void
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>>166383539
>will it fill the void

Probably not, but it's a good game regardless.
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>>166383129
>>166383286

wait so the people exploring Andromeda have NO idea about the war they escaped from. They only know that there was a battle against the Geth at the Citadel and the Geth were defeated..

well shit.
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>>166383791
Yes.
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>>166383653
Reckon it's worth buying then?
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>>166383791
There have been like 80 dev statements that the point of the Andromeda Initiative isn't to run away from the Reapers. They've said it so often that it's come around to me thinking they're just trying to throw people off the Reaper surprize. It's really stupid that a human with N7 connections wouldn't a) know about reapers b) take Shep's testimony over the council's.
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>>166383856

Absolutely. Make sure it's the Ultimate Edition with all the DLC.
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>>166383910

I just assumed it'd all be some time after the Milky Way was rebuilt.
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>>166384015
It does, the Arks/Nexus arrive in Andromeda 600 years later. That's when ME:A starts for us, the players. I'm just wondering if the Nexus, like the Citadel, is also some sort of secret relay back to the Milky Way to do just what you're saying and take us back to the Milky Way at some point.
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So were the reapers only in the Milky Way.

That seems strange, that the fucking bane of all organic civilisation and pretty much the most powerful beings ever are only bothered about one little galaxy
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>>166384263

Okay so this doesn't make sense to me then.

I was totally going into this with the assumption that this was after the entire reaper war, maybe hundreds of years after, when things had been rebuilt and repairing the mass relays that'd been damaged after using the crucible would have taught us how to make relays on our own.

So when we went to Andromeda, we could make Mass relay networks

But with us leaving at the end of ME2 and none of that shit happening..

then we wouldn't know how to build a mass relay

what about quantum entanglement? Do we have Quantum Entanglement communication with the Milky Way?

I mean how the fuck are we getting up and running in this new galaxy without mass relays?
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>>166384604
You wouldn't explore the galaxy, just a cluster.
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>>166384604
wew lad, you haven't read anything about this game.

First, let me just acknowledge and agree with you that the flight to the milky way just so that bioware can avoid making any judgments on canon are bullshit.

second, ME:A does not take place over all of the andromeda galaxy. There are no mass relays in this new galaxy and we will be restricted to a single cluster, the Helius cluster.

There is a NEXUS which is the big citadel-like space station that is supposed to arrive first and act as a coordinating authority for the colonizers and then four arks; human, turian, salarian, and asari. There are asari on all the arks as their long life allows them to wake up periodically during the journey to make sure everything is going ok.

When you arrive you find that the planets that had been probed 600 years earlier are totally fucked, the arks that have arrived are damaged (as is the nexus), and there's one or two arks that are still missing (asari btfo).
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>>166384717

I thought the whole point was to explore the new galaxy, but we're only going to be able to realistically explore a tiny piece of it without relays.
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>>166384862

well that's disappointing, I was expecting a much larger scope.
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>>166385338
>>166385338
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>>166385363
>>166385384
Okay.
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>>166384894
>but we're only going to be able to realistically explore a tiny piece of it without relays

Even so, a cluster will still be thousands of stars. It doesn't really matter if we're exploring a galaxy or just a cluster if they're both 30 stars each.
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>>166385410
Ignore >>166385384, I didn't realize WG was awake.
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>>166370951
i didnt even need to see the filename to know this is a tumblr gif
>massive amount of contrast
>COMPLETE, GLOBAL, SACHURASHUN
>shitty framerate
>that font (its not bad, just recognizable)
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