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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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SMT HD Game and 3DS game planned in the works: http://shin-megamitensei.jp/

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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>>165837140
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The 3ds project will be an asahi game
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3ds project will be SMTIV from Isabeau's perspective
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shit thread
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>>166149493
the white were right
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Fifth for STR
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>>166150190
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What else do i need
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>>166150501
feminine penis
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>>166148830
Where is this 3ds project coming from? Is it another old game getting a new port like Soul Hackers?
Will we finally get debisama/if...?
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>>166150734
what did he mean by this
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>>166150837
cosplaying requires feminine penis.
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>>166150501
You need to get attacked by a gang of demons and die.
Then come back with glowing green scars.
So just buy a ticket to Detroit.
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>>166150826
nocturne is getting a 3ds port trust me on this
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>>166150837
He wants his cosplayers to be attain maximum sexy.
Futa is only 25% gay anyway.
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>>166150998
>3ds
>modding lets us get both rie dough and dante
>maybe donte
>especially el donte
Confirmed best version.
At its worst it would still be better than the EUR version.
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>nocturne 3ds port
you faggots surely have shit taste
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>>166151518
>mobile
Japs would eat it up in a heartbeat, don't insult them. Don't be mad Atlus caters to them and ignores you.
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Hey guys, I'm totally not the OP of this thread, but I think we should move on to it, since It's more cool and sexy >>166150380
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>>166151693
No, I love my son.
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>>166151679
>threadwars
I like you chaosboi
but i like cute men
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>>166151675
>implying that japs like nocturne
it flopped there for a reason
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>>166151679
Indeed.
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>>166151782
The power of mobile and Nintendo is too strong for it to fail.
Maybe that's why Nocturne flopped and why mainline never stayed with Sony like Persona.
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I want to learn how to dance. Where should I start?
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>>166150501
MAGA hat
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I'm gonna make a world where everyone has macca beam
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i will make a world where cucksona last forever
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I'll make a world where everyone has Yasuda gravity boobs.

Everyone.
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>I will have to buy a Switch in the future to play the new SMT game
>Atlus just can't port it to the ps3/ps4
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HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US!
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I'll make a world where everyone is /fit/ and live longer, healthier lives with immunity to countless ilnesses and viruses.

Also superpowers.
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The 3DS game will be a SMT Musou with characters from Persona, #FE, and Devil Children.
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>>166157475
fuck you and your stupid ideas fagda
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>>166157598
fuck those souls piece of shit games
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>>166157598

>Atlus is proud to announce, a SMT if... HD remastering for the 3DS!

how much would you cum/10?
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304
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>>166157054
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whats taking atlus so long tell us already

Anyways anons predictions?

>SMT1
>SMT if...
>something completely retarded
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>>166159452
desu desu
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>>166159452

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 0
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>>166157601
>not getting the DDS reference
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>>166160015
It sounds so awful that I find it as a likely possibility.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMk5PL2bjg
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>>166157875
I want every untranslated game ported though.
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>>166157875
They need to fix World of Sloth. It's the worst dungeon design I've ever seen.

Also, add Hazama's Chapter or bust.
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>>166161570
cant be worse than the backtracking of II or record scratch universe
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Hey fellas. I did it.
Got me a 2DS, and bought smt IV digitally. Downloading it now.
Off work tomorrow too. Can't fucking wait.

Except one thing.
How the fuck do I tell how far along my download is?
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Strange Journey? More like Strange FAG
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>>166162902
Oh, wait. I think I see now.
The icon fills up orange. With no other details seemingly.

That's very unnecessary.
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>>166163143
Leave it to Nintendo to make bad UI.

SMT4 has no endurance stat, have fun with that early game.
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Nocturne? More like NIgger!
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>>166163602
Hell yeah dude. No problem.

fug, oh well
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>>166164004
lmao
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>>166164042
also, DEX increases the strength of physical skills, STR is almost useless.
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>>166164176
Really? Interesting. Guess we Dark souls now.
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Is there a game where going full wurld of LUK is actually viable
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>>166164707
Nocturne.
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I've seen the damage formula for SMT IV around, but has anyone figured it out for Apocalypse yet?
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>>166164707
Soul Hackers
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>>166164707
radiou 2
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>>166158231
no mt2 no vote
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>>166162902
>2DS

Bring more macca next time.
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What SJ route is most fun?

Can I fuck Zelenin?
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>>166167508
NEUTRAL
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Playing through Apocalypse, is it normal for this guy to be completely jack-hammering my shit in?
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>SJ never was released in yurop
So should I just import it or play on an emulator?
I know myself, I'll just cheat anyway or farm with fastforward.
But 35€ total with import and have to wait like a month, not sure if worth it.
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>>166168047
>Playing Apocalypse
>Having an easy time
>Suddenly Loki is actively hunting down my demons' weaknesses and every single one of his physical strikes are crit smirking.
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>>166167414
HA.
Yeah, clerk had a similar response.
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>>166167508
There are extra missions on Law and Chaos, also you can recruit the extra boss of NG+ on Law.
Neutral has the best ending for me.
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>>166168081
Emulation is free and instantaneous.

There's no downside. 35€ is too steep for any DS game.
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>>166168239
Loki? From the sidequest? Or does he show up again?
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>>166168871

sidequest
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Megami Tensei needs more cute boys
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>>166169150
what level are you, who is party? I just ran that guy over yesterday.
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>>166169403

No, I already took him down. It was just super rough compared to everything else in the game so far.
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>spend several turns buffing and debuffing
>charge
>the boss just uses dekaja and continues buffing itself
>wasted half my MP
>the boss continue to buff itself because it has infinite MP
Why is this allowed? If they give the enemies infinite MP, they should at least give the player access to a spell that would protect your buffs from being dispelled, similar to Tetraja.
I really liked how in Soul Hackers the enemies actually could run out of MP, and if they used physical moves they actually paid the HP cost. Why is mainline so inferior to the spinoffs?
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>>166147627
>I'm trying to assemble a new PC from scratch and this sucks
If you're still around, did you need any help?
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>>166170442
Buffing/debuffing is never a waste. Even on a boss that constantly wipes them from the field, they still have a noticeable effect on the damage you deal/take.

There's also Imposing Stance in Apocalypse which pretty much forces the boss to choose between attacking and dispelling.
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>>166171665
It's a waste if you don't get a chance to attack before they're dispelled. It's also always a waste because of the reason I've mentioned - if you both you and the boss take turns and buffing/debuffing and dispelling it's always your loss, because they have infinite MP and you can never win the arms race.
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Are angels demons or are they angels? Demons refer to them as angels sometimes but other times they're just referred to as demons. Inconsistency, or difference in the angelic tier?
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>>166167414
Why did they change that line from "bring more macca" to "bring more money" in Apocalypse? Seems pointless, as the currency is still Macca.
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>>166171868
Angels are a category of demon.
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What can you buy in demon Costco?
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>>166168047
A few bosses like Quetzalcoatl and Medusa really gave me a pounding the first few times. Usually I find the answer is just "fuse more demons"
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>>166171789
Enemies in Nocturne, DDS, and SJ actually do have finite MP. It doesn't stop them from using enemy only skills, though.
You can also use MP restoring items, and the games are usually pretty good about giving plenty of those out.
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>>166148830
>http://shin-megamitensei.jp/
Coming Soon......

WHENNNNNNNNNNNN?
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>>166159452
It'd seem that "soon" means months
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Hoy.
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If I give my Principality Incense will it keep the stat bonus after becoming Power?
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>>166178656
no
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how can I beat aztec sun god in SMTIV final without spending all of my macca summoning new demons? I'm level 47
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Can someone explain to me why IV:A's notes tell me Navarre was 25 at his age of death, yet Flynn is still 18? It vaguely mentions something about this being due to Flynn fucking around in Tokyo but that doesn't really explain anything.
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>>166180680
Read the eastern kingdom of Mikado note.
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>>166180680
Time passes faster in Mikado and Navarre was there while Flynn was in Tokyo doing shit.
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>Atlus will never make anything like Nocturne on Ps4
Did Persona kill SMT? I had enough of handle shits.
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Is it bad that I'm genuinely enjoying how fucking shonen Apocalypse is? I actually like how light hearted it is at times against the shitshow backdrop that is the SMT universe.

>>166168047
There are some Fire immune demons in the area to recruit and fuse.
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>>166181465
you know he focuses on force attacks right
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>>166181736
He was slapping my shit with Fire attacks, I stopped using Fire-weak boys and wrecked house.
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>>166181787
I guess it's something to do with the AI because he didn't use fire at even after I put in demons who null zan
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Would the bosses go apeshit in IV if I had a demon in my party that is immune to all magic and physical attacks?
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>>166182513
Who cares, the bosses worth noting just spam ultimate dmg spells anyway.
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According to Dagda, only humans can kill gods and demons. Gods and demons can only seal each other away. Has this always been true?
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>>166182760
No.
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Is Alice worth fusing in Apocalypse?
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>>166183885
Alice is always worth fusing because she's cute.
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i can hardly think of anything more torturous than being made to play smt4

the map and encounter rate make me want to die
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>>166185613
was the encounter rate too low for you? the world map was absolutely abysmal, everyone agrees.
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>>166186092
no the enemies would spawn on top of me and i'd have to sit through an autobattle for about 20 seconds before i could resume my walking across the whole map to fill the chalice
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>>166186176
lol how did you ever deal with random encounters
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>>166186563
i went with the white end so i can steamroll through the game again and get the rest of the endings
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>demon has both samarecarm and invitation when the latter is a straight upgrade
Why tho?
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dude how the fuck do I get to downtown Ginza in smt iv apocalypse? I just want to finish a shitty sidequest and can't remember where this place is.
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>>166187305
its right across from kasumigaseki, south of ueno
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>>166187362
thank you
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>>166186676
>demon has both mazio and maziondyne
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>>166173904
I'll see if I can do anything decent with that
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>>166189556
one costs less mp
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>>166164707
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>>166190309
just fuse someone who nulls fire like xiuhetecuhtli and someone who nulls or resists force. his options are limited because he's fucked when he uses maragi. spam him with mudo until he dies.
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How is the story in those games?

Never played one before, and have no idea what to do with my time.
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>>166192719
Subjective and varies from game to game, but I like em.

If you've got nothing better to do with your time it can't hurt to jump in and found out.
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>>166193173
what's the best way to play strange journey? I have a DS but I feel like phone emulation may be good enough now a days?
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>day 8
>Amane follower and Amane must not die
>before I can even move her follower moves to attack an enemy and his entire team gets 1shot
>MISSION FAILED

amazing, absolutely amazing. why are escort like things in games
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>tfw Kaneko collaborated with your favorite author and you missed it completely
Mother of God, where do I find scans of this thing?
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>>166150837
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>>166186676
Invitation can't be used outside of battle iirc and I don't think it works on the MC either.
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>>166194121
Get an R4
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Everytime I go to play one of the older games I always get reminded of how much of a hassle the Mag system was. I'm so glad the did away with this mechanic completely.
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>>166198150
>Have two demons out when traveling.
>Whip out another two for boss fights.
>Never worry about running out of MAG.

although i still don't miss it either
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>>166198150
>>166198321
In Soul Hackers Nemissa can pretty much solo the game. The other demons are just to make the sailing more comfortable.
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>>166198321
Yeah MAG is relatively easy to come by and manage once you get the hang of it, but I never said it was hard I just said it was a hassle. It doesn't bother me too much but I'd much rather it wasn't there.

>>166195347
I found some of the artwork a while back but as for an actual scan I have no idea.

>>166198503
Haven't played SH yet, currently playing SMT1.
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>>166198150
You can get through most of SMT I/II/SH and all the games that use Mag without demons anyway, they're only useful on boss battles.
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>>166198571
Wait for 'btw only dark demons drop a fair amount of MAG silly boys' in SMT II
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It's part of nature. When a flower dies, it blossoms again.
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Can you use Bind on "allies"

This fuck keeps walking towards enemy and dying in one hit
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>>166199676
No, you need to go fast. Stop trying to slow everyone else and improve yourself.
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>>166199676
Start with a team with flight and devil speed in the end of the turn summon a demon with Chaos wave
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>>166148830
>http://shin-megamitensei.jp/
Tapei Game Show?
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>Amane joins the party
>37 fucking MA, only 4 vit less than Mari, greater agility

RIP Mari you will be missed. Shame about those stats though looking through the team I can't find any reason to use Kaido, Mari, or Black Frost. Well BF can maybe be useful due to reflects but usually really frail.
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>>166202054
The bad thing about Amane and Black Frost is that they're like Yuzu and only have 3 movement. I really liked how DeSu2 gave everyone different resistances and stat distrubtions to make them all usable in different situations.
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maybe I should ask the FF guys but this gen makes more sense to me. which final fantasy game is closest to SMT? somehow, I have never played a game in that series and I want to try them out.
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>>166203117
the one where everyone dies
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>>166203117
I don't know, FFVI? Something very Megaten happens halfway through.
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>>166203117

FF2 involves the villain opening up a hellgate and using demons to conquer the world, and more and more people die and towns are destroyed over the course of the game until very few remain.

people generally don't like that game's stat growth system, though
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>>166203463
>>people generally don't like that game's stat growth system, though
might that game's stat growth system be described as... esoteric?
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>>166203820

Pretty much. Game difficulty snaps like a twig once you learn Evasion is overpowered as fuck.
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>>166202054
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>>166204119
>>166202858
I'll slap some wave or phantasm on her
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>>166204228

something something poo
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Eternal Punishment: If I missed out on the ultimate persona items in my first trip to Mount Iwato, do I get another chance to get them later? I've just finished the Ameno Torifune.
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Does anybody have that rank pic based on number of SMT games completed?
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>>166203117
Anything with a job system has similar customization mechanics.
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>>166194121
Well, the best way to play Strange Journey is (surprise surprise) on a Dual Screen system.
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Is it me or is the OST in Apocalypse not nearly as good as IV?
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Let's hope he is less of a beta in DeSu.

That pose though... it never changes I see
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>>166207603
Its just you. IV's OST is incredible but IVA's is outstanding.
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>>166207603
It isn't.
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>Playing Nocturne and having a great time
>End up taking a break for some reason
>Pick up SMTIV
>All of the streamlined features and quality of life features are pampering me
Did I make a mistake here? I'm sure I'll be able to get back into Nocturne because I was having a blast but I feel like IV is making me complacent.
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Why Hallelujah isn't Anthony's son? Lost opportunity.
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>>166208637
go back and finish nocturne stupid.
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Demi-fiend did nothing wrong.
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>Hallelujah chooses to attack instead of just using Warding Shout
>Girimehkala starts spamming Bind Voice

>>166207603
I like both but Battle B2 is definitely better than Battle F2.
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>>166208637
I don't see how going back to Nocturne from IV would be jarring. You're going to have an aneurysm if you decide to play I or II.
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>>166209263
>Not wearing an actual pair of pants.

Demi did plenty wrong.
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>>166208637
>starting a new game while you're in the middle of another one
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>>166209380
I never use Hallelujah for anything but warding shout so once he got more non-support options he became pretty useless.
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>>166204228
He doesn't even use the opportunity to backstab you
Truly the best character in Apocalypse
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>>166209386
Mostly just the hand holding honestly, like how you don't get a game over if the MC is KO'd and being able to save anywhere. I have yet to have a hard time with Nocturne but I've just been so lazy about playing games lately. I actually really wanted to play I & II at some point, but I can never finish emulated games for some stupid reason.
>>166210021
I have like, at least 6 other games I'm either almost done with or halfway through because my attention span is horrendous. I hate being like this.
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>>166210448
I feel your pain, anon. I'm the same way.
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>>166210448
>>166211273
I do the same thing. The worst part is if I haven't played a game in a long time and haven't beaten I just restart.
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>>166206449
This one?
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>>166212142

Yes, thank you!
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>>166160227
>>166160015
>>166159452
Wouldn't it immediately get the banhammers because of the if... movie it's based on?
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>>166210448
>I have like, at least 6 other games I'm either almost done with or halfway through because my attention span is horrendous. I hate being like this.
Are you me?
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>>166207801
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>>166207801
>Let's hope he is less of a beta in DeSu.
>he didn't see Metatron going full damage control mode in Naoya's 8th day
We call him Betatron for a reason
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>when it's full moon again and your COMP can't stop emitting steam
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Just finished replaying Nocturne. Went for the Neutral ending and only did 2 Kalpas, but all in all it took me 37 hours. The game is a lot shorter than I had remembered. The end game dungeons are mostly just trash as well. Really fucking high encounter rate (unless you grind up the butt so that estoma actually works) and most of the dungeons have some teleporter maze segment where the whole thing is just trial and error and each error means that you get thrown back into the beginning of the segment. Really not that fun. Game is pretty easy as well. Only a few encounters there that gave me a rough time, but it was mostly really easy. Especially all the bosses in the Tower of Kagatsuchi were a joke, and this was with a MAG build using Magma Axis, so no Pierce and Freikugel.

I still hold that SMT4A is the hardest mainline SMT. People claiming otherwise probably just think Nocturne was hard because it was their first SMT. I give Nocturne a solid 7/10.
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>>166212142
Do you have a good image for the boxart of SMTI? Every one I find looks is the wrong size for that chart.
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>>166216931
>SMTIVA
>HARD
How?
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>>166218623
Atlus actually took the time to balance the demons.
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>>166216931
I'm playing through SMT4A right now and the main thing giving me issue is the prevalence of boss rushes, though some of the bosses have caught me off guard with their tactics, namely Krishna and Adramelech casually one shotting people with Hellish Brand. That said I agree with what you said about Nocturne and the teleport mazes. The Tower of Kagatsuchi was fucking awful.
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>>166220060
Seriously what is the deal with having to beat 2 or 3 bosses in a row in this game. Why cant they just make 1 hard boss that I can throw all of my resources/MP into?
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>>166210245
He's useful against any foe weak to fire/ice. Not to mention bosses who love wind spells.

Should have had him learn all four elements and remove Megidoloan and His version of Concentrate, add pierce to all his spells by default.

>>166208961
Different universes.
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>>166210314
He literally says he doesn't trust humans at all as Vishnu-Flynn. He always planmed to stab you in the back later. Or rape you like he does Flynn via fusion.
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>>166220060
They missed a perfect chance for more boss rushes in the egg to be honest. Have Inanna birth every slain Powers member including Odin for a rematch. Then defeat multiple bosses with way more HP, new strategies, and more press turns with Pierce for each element they use so you can't reflect shit.
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>>166220481
>Why cant they just make 1 hard boss that I can throw all of my resources/MP
Because Atlus never made a boss like that and they never will.
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Playin SMT4
Does killing hunters in the tournament give me more chaos points? The guy in the bar tells me I'm polite, so I want to be more neutral.
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>>166225305
Yes.
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>>166225376
Rad.
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>>166148830
>http://shin-megamitensei.jp/
Check this 10 times a day
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I love Shin Megami Tensei!
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Who's keeping all the lights on in Tokyo?
Do demons live in those sky scrapers?
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I hate Shin Megami Tensei.
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>>166227205
You find out later.
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>>166212836
if.... is a fantastic movie. Literally one of my favorites and hardly anybody nowadays would likely get the reference.
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>>166150501
How will you make the wig?
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Hey /smtg/, do you have any cool wallpaper?
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>>166230945
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>>166230945
I've got a bunch of these pics. Should I post the rest I have?
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>>166233013
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what if navarre was right
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>>166230945
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What are the major alignment differences in SMT1? I'm just kinda going through right now not knowing what options cause what and seeing what happens.
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>>166233181
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>>166234458
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>>166231886
>>166232274
>>166233013
>>166233181
>>166233028
>>166233953
>>166234603
Those are actually great, thanks anons.
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>Nanashi gets one-shotted by Belial's Trisaigon because lolPierce
>Forgot to have someone with Samerecarm or Sabbatma like an idiot
>Want to try again so he can get the exp
>But the remaining 3 demons and Toki are perfectly capable of winning against Belial on their own
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>>166234603
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>>166235732
It is a little bullshit how often I've been getting one-shot by bosses' attacks. I don't want to spend all my macca on equipment with elemental resists
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SRPGs worst RPGs
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>>166235786
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>finally got to the bit where you choose between walter and jonathan

I want to stay neutral. Can I choose Isabeau or something?
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>>166237094
That's not the real choice, keep going
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>>166237339
This is already after I met the new rulers of Mikado, this isn't the real choice? Huh.
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Does anyone have a .cia for KMT?
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How the fuck do I purchase Apocalypse in Europe? Anyone know of some sites that sell the EU version?
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>>166233637
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Whats the general consenus on Strange Journey compared to the earlier games in the franchise? Just started it myself.
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>>166237427
Protip: before you go to Ichigaya, go to a HA and check what your alignment is. If it's not neutral, then do the arenas and kill/spare the opponents as needed to get back to neutral
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>>166238681
It's great, but it lacks a sense of scale compared to 1 and 2, I think.
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did anyone ever translate the text on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSPRpEXQgyI
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>>166238859
Will do, thanks.
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Does someone have the pic with Flynn /Shesha drawn in a semi-realistic way? The part in where you discover that he's actually Shesha
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>>166239976
>XD
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>>166182760
That was lucifer who said that not dagda by the way.

Even in game this isn't really true. Instead of taking it literally, just read it as a statement of observation in general. He means that if humans still believe in a god, even if another god kills it the archetype will still exist and may generate a new instantiation later on. He calls that sealing, but most games just call it death. The point is that to kill it for good, humans have to stop having the archetype. This is just described in a "Weaponized" format for the yhvh fight, since they wanted you to observe him into a demon mid fight.
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>>166203117
None of them are very close, but most of them are at least reasonable games.
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Is there anywhere to read the manga prayers online?
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https://vgmrips.net/packs/pack/shin-megami-tensei-pc-engine-super-cd-rom2
i actually kinda like the music in this port
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>>166238285
Whats wrong with just downloading it?
If space is the problem, get a proper SD Card, they cost like nothing and you can store ten times as many games as with the inbuild one if not more.
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>>166242047
I like having my games physical whenever possible. Was the EU release really that limited of a run?
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>>166221687
Play Etrian Odyssey, dummy
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>>166242139
Well I found it on amazon and it's not an import.
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>>166220498
My magic Nanashi meant I was always good on magic, and I never got used to relying on my partners for damage. So the only time I'd have Hallelujah as my partner at all was against status-spamming bosses. I suppose he's useful against zan-users no matter what, I didn't have too big of an issue with that though.

Either way he can't get all four elements, that's Isabeau's schtick.
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>>166242161
>play this medieval generic borefest
nah bruh
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Is it worth bothering with Smile Charge over War Cry on a physical Nanashi?
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>>166244530

EO is SMT4 before SMT4.
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>>166244850
that is just not true.
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>>166244530
then don't talk about what atlus can or can't do
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>>166244902
>Medieval society built over the buried ruins of Tokyo centuries after Earth got fucked up.
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>>166245518
That's cool and all but can you collect and fuse demons?
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>Having to fight Merkabah and Lucifer back to back
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Hey smtg, I just downloaded soul hackers on the 3ds. My friend said it was a good entry point to the series, I've never played smt, but he also lent me nocturne to play after I finish this one. Just wondering if anyone thinks I should play the first and second SMT because I don't really understand the story about them. And is SMT 4 and apocalypse very differen't? Is there a preffered one I should play? Also should I care about what's the best fusion combo and stuff like that? Or should I just get whatever I want?
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What skills should I give Demiurge as my skill carry-over for NG+ in IV, as a gunner-build?
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>>166251260
>>166251260
>My friend said it was a good entry point to the series,

He blatantly lied. Its a horrible entry point, since it lacks much of the things that make the games interesting. Its playable, but you won't get a feel for what the series is about from it.
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>>166251749

Um, okay. Where would you tell me to start then? I am enjoying it to be fair.
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>>166251848
n o c t u r n e
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>>166251749
>>166251939
lol
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>>166252119
god something to say, punk ass bitch?
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>>166251939

Do you mind elaborating on the features soul hackers is missing?
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>>166251848
Probably SMTIV or devil survivor overclocked.

Nocturne is a good game, but gives a meta aspect of the story that won't make sense to you until you see the normal plot progression. IV or overclocked both show it in a more normal way.
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>>166252386
killing god >:)
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>>166252386
not that anon, never played soul hackers.
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>>166252386
That wasn't me. Basically one of the main core aspects of the series is the ideological sides alignments correspond to, and their interplay with eachother. Soul hackers retains alignments as a battle mechanic, but the story doesn't really reference that obviously the larger world. Its small and self enclosed and aside from the characters isn't super interesting either.
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>>166252450

Sorry. I meant the other guy. >>166251749
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>>166252524

Okay, cool. Thanks for that. Do you think I should drop this then and head on over to nocturne? I am enjoying soul hackers. But if you feel it's a lot better then I'll play that over it. I also read that digital devil saga is the best place to start. Is that true?
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>page 10
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WHAT DEMON WOULD YOU FUCK!!!!
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>>166256073
doppelganger
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>>166256073
Tiamat
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>>166256345
>tfw no 8 titted giantess mom to fuck
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>>166256345
not the best mom of her game
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>>166256073
mothman.
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>>166256073
Pixie's thighs
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>>166253432
If you're already playing soul hackers and like it you can finish it. There's no reason to drop it. Unless you're going to die in under a year and only have time for a few more games. Its just that its not indicative of the core games very closely. If you skip to nocturne you'll be playing a plot thats a meta plot to the plot before the plot. So it might confuse you about the bigger picture.
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What transfers from IV to IV:A?
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>166261164
Definitely not a coherent version of IVs plot.
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>>166238285
Reminder you can play any PAL release, so maybe try importing from somewhere.
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>>166261202
I mean gameplay-wise, what items/runs/demons can you transfer over? What is worth doing fully in IV before you start IV:A?
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>>166261164
You get some handy bonus items for each ending you've seen
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>defeated Dagda
Is there going to be some big catch at the end, or is Apocalypse literally Persona 4? This is awful.
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>>166262526
You should have killed your friends.
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ARE YOU FAGGOTS READY FOR THE SJ NOVELIZATION?

He, who was an authentic Vending Machine maniac, died from a traffic accident while protecting a vending machine. He, who had expected that his life was finished, woke up in a lake shore surrounded by abundant nature. He didn’t understand what had happened to himself. He only knew that he had become a vending machine. Alone in the labyrinth of another world… As he wanders alone, he meets a lone girl who causes the story to change.
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>>166263992
This is like some weird mix of transformation fetish and otherkin.
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>>166263992
>yet more moe moe kyuun worthless nobody transported to another world garbage
Fuck all the way off, Japan.
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>>166263992
I have to at least ask how a vending machine wanders alone
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>>166264648
>God's Greatest Enemy gave me a Magical Horn, Neon Tattoos and Edible Worms, and Also, Tokyo Is a Center of Universe????

Isekai novels exist because there's a demand for them, Anon.
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so ive been thinking of doing a spess marine cosplay, but i have no idea how to do that shit and i wouldnt bother wearing it if it looked like shit.
what do i do /smtg/
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>>166267762
do it faggot
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>>166268221
I would, but i have no idea how to make the helmet
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>>166268430
If you really want it, you'll find a way.
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>>166268501
fug
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>>166268538
Don't worry anon, I'm with you there, I'd love to have the helmet from SJ for a costume or something.
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hello
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>>166220646
Well you'd have to be a fucking idiot to trust SMT humans
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>>166269158
>>166268430

>find guy who is obsessed with helmets
>say to him you want this helmet made (show picture) and give him lots of macca

Who can make plushies? I want a pyro jack and jack frost plushie ;_;
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What's this new SMT game faggotry? SMT IV God route sequel?
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>>166244530
>medieval
>generic
>borefest
sod off, will ya
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>>166262526
>>defeated Dagda
Just reload your save, please.
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>>166262526
>Guys I chose the Persona 4 route
>is Apocalypse literally Persona 4? This is awful.
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>>166256073
Which smt character would you fuck?
Pic very much related
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>>166273362
8th day Yoohoo. Just imagine how deliciously sweaty she must be.
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Speaking of endings in Apocalypse.
Can you change your difficulty to apocalypse for NG+?
Heard the Dagda route is the hardest by far so I want to do it in NG+ with every trick (Demon) in the box at my hands but at the hardest difficulty.
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>>166273614
It's gotta be 7th day yoohoo ending yoohoo, she's slightly less sweaty but much more broken
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Does Dex only affect gun attacks in Apocalypse?
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>>166273727
>Can you change your difficulty to apocalypse for NG+?
Yes, the apocalypse difficulty is free DLC, so just grab it.
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>Putting Carol Hit on a fucking boss
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>>166274083
8th day Naoya despot ending Yoohoo is broken too, plus you get to steal the new King of Bel's girl.
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But who was the Terminal Guardian?
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>>166276518
The true Messiah
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What's that new 3DS title will end up being?
Please not another IV
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>Try to fuse Dakini and Ammut to create Maya
>ERROR
>ERROR
>ERROR
>Get Tokisada instead
EVERYTHING WENT BETTER THAN EXPECTED
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>>166277476
you guys have made me fancy the idea of remakes so hopefully that. it would be fitting for an anniversary too, don't you think?
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>>166274506
Yes.
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>>166277476
>It's another IV.
>It takes place right before Nanashi final showdown with Satan.
>The dude, 12 years old, fights with his childhood friends, a quirky ensemble of support characters an intelligent shy boy, a sweet girl, a fat boy, a bitchy girl and of course the mysterious Hero Jack against the true evil mastermind behind the incidents in Tokyo.
In the end, will he hold hands with the sweet girl or will he play videogames with his bros? Only your choices can determine what path the hero will take.
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>>166277476
It's a game where you play as Stephen and you visit travel between Megaten universes.
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>>166277784
If they remake I or II I hope they use Kaneko's redesigns and not Doi's like in Final. They're perfect.
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>>166278228
Shit, I pumped all my dex incenses out of habit into my Girimehkala
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>>166280016
Good thing you can't ruin the best Elephant anyhow anyway
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>Loki battle in Apocalypse
Fun to see that Atlus actually can make a boss with proper AI. Why don't they make more of those? All the story bosses are retarded and fall constantly fall for Makarakarn/Tetrakarn
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>>166214510
>He doesn't use Nanami
It's like you don't even want to git gud
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>>166278837
>that nose
>perfect

Speaking of remakes, the Fire Emblem Gaiden remaster or whatever it is comes out in May this year. Hopefully Atlus can pump out a remake in approximately the same amount of time. Apocalypse and Fates came out at around the same time, both series have a Switch game coming up, and both series have a 3DS game lined up. If we get it before September, I'd be ecstatic.
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Does anyone have that picture that goes 'Krishna toots as he pleases!' or something like that
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>Dual Shadow Plus activates for all my team
>Metatron half HP in one turn
>he heals it back fully during downtime from that wind move

What the fuck
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>>166241983
Do you have SMT II one?
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>>166284847
unfortunately there's no port of SMT2 to anything except the PS1 and mobile phones
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>>166285103
Is SMT II Sound relation album having PSX versions of the tracks then? Or is it SNES?
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>>166286665
SNES and some arrangements.
http://66.90.93.122/ost/shin-megami-tensei-ii-sound-relation/mbfrwpppxh/1-05-club-world.mp3
here's a good one
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>>166274650
I'm still waiting for the day Macca Beam is put on a boss.

>>166275351
Fuck off. Yuzu is for Abel only. I like to think he captured and raped her after Naoya 8th day.
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>>166287282
You fuck off Naoya, Yuzu is for me.
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>>166287282
Black Rider in SMT IV
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>>166287519
No. Yuzu is the King of Bel's toy.

Anyway why was she such a bitch in Naoya 8th day? Yeah I killed a few people, so what? They wanted to kill me too and even tried.

>>166287579
Oh. I never touched the fiends in IV. I was hoping for a mandatory boss to have Macca Beam. It would be nice if Vishnu-Flynn had it.
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>>166287767
>It would be nice if Vishnu-Flynn had it.
No, it would be fucking disastrous
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>>166287936
That's the fun.
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>>166287767
>>166287936
>>166288236
Eh, it would be a wasted move from the bosses side and I'd gladly pay to not have to deal with another hit all ultimate dmg bullshit spell.

Now if there was a macca beam that would also do damage...
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>>166288375
The move works like Macca Beam + Dragon Eye
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>>166288460
>Dragon Eye
Never again.
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>>166288236
Everyone would just restart and spend all their money on the compendium, then do the battle
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Is it possible to make Phys Drain/Nu/Nu/Nu/Nu/Nu or a complete Null/Drain demon in DeSu Overclock?
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>>166286860
Do you have SMT II PSX soundtrack then pls?
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>>166289386
http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/shin-megami-tensei-ii-psx-
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>>166282743
Booru
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>>166288823
You can do it with Metatron. I'm sure it's possible with others too.
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>>166289386
you can download the PSF rip from somewhere, i know because i have it

the bad thing though is the labels are corrupt
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Which dog is the best dog?
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any news on smt 3ds?
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>>166291170
Cu is my favorite dog.
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>>166291170
Setanta
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>>166291170
Asahi
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>>166291671

cow
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I really hope they are going to announce something about the new 3DS project at the Taipei Game Show
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>>166292754
Her assests are exaggerated here.
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>>166291371
>cu chulainn canonically gets to thigh-fuck this
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Shin Megami Tensei IV deserves as many spin-offs as Persona 4!
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>>166293605
So, none?
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>>166293605
Both games have a 4 in the title, are made for newcomers and trash so I agree. SMT IV The Animation when?
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>>166293605
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>>166272643
The route shouldn't even be there in the first place.
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>>166293605
It deserves good spinoff. Which Final wasn't.
New 3DS game will fuck mainline with moeshit even further, screen this shit if you want.
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>>166294460
Why? More options are always better.
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>>166294524
Not if these leave a permanent skidmark on the spirit of mainline.
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>>166294851
BFFs forever routes aren't all bad. I just thought it wasn't executed well here because it boiled down to bullying.

"Hey buddy fuck Dagda, you agree with us right?"

"Actually I think Dagda makes more sense."

"How dare you? Die faggit."
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Childhood is when you idolize Dagda. Adulthood is when you realize Krishna makes more sense.
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I'm playing Digital Devil Saga now after playing Nocturne and have some questions. Currently I'm in the Solids' dungeon. When do I get Gale or Cielo for my party? And why does magic feel so weak? I wanted to do a Mag build Serph like I did with Demi Fiend but the damage bonus you get from stats doesn't seem so great. And do Phys moves scale the same way in DDS as they did in Nocturne i.e they get damage from both Strength AND your current level whereas spells only scale with Mag?
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>>166295256
Oh please. Krishna's world would have had shitheads like Quetz and Medusa free to torture innocents.
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Childhood is when you idolize Jack Frost. Adulthood is when you realize Mothman is better
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>>166296132
You spoke my heart anon.

Now buzz off you fluffy prick
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>>166295547
>When do I get Gale or Cielo for my party?
Soon.
>And why does magic feel so weak?
On the bright side MAG increases your magic defense instead of VIT this time around. My phys build Serph got destroyed by any -dyne spell in late game.
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What?
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I'm one of those IV newfags, though finished with IV now on Final. is it possible to backwards fuse a mighty Mothman or the like?
Still a bit pissed that Nadja came so early this time.
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>>166150501
Are you that black ghetto kid from SMTN?
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>>166297221
You can make anything strong but why would you?
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>>166296641
So perhaps having a balanced set of stats is best for Serph?
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>>166297221
If you have the patience and the DLC you can make a godly anything.
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When will be revealed the new SMT 3DS project?
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>>166288823
Black Frost with the appropriate skills.
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>>166148830
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>>166298450
Can I add you? I'm really lonely.
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>>166298450
Literally no one will dispute this.
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>>166298526
ok
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>>166298450
How nonconformist
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>>166298581
Wait, what's your favorite SMT?
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>>166298640
none of them
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>>166298798
Same. We'll be great friends.
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>>166298450
>/a/
let me guess you crossdress and have a tumblr blog as well
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>>166298951
that's not me silly
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how do you think that jackfrost boipussi feels like
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>>166301197
demons have no genitalia
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>>166301272
I like Master Therion's dick.
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I'm so fucking mad right now. I'm on day 2 in DeSu1 and fucking everything has a god damn heal that heals for all their hp every turn and it's bullshit.
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>>166301272
Excu-fucking-me?
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So ok, what the fuck is this shit?

I'm doing the second part of the St. Hermin optional quest from the Theater in P2 IS, are you fucking kidding me? Is this for real? Did someone actually beat this without killing themself? Should I just look up some walkthrough or video, this is one of the most infuriating experiences I ever had in a videogame, lel get teleported back to the same spot over and over again lel eat these shitty enemy waves to slow you down haha also you better remember which teleports you tried already or you're going back xddd

fucking EPIC dude
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>>166303107
Worse teleport puzzles in the other games (like SJ's teleporter maze in Eranidus) would eat you alive, shitter.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy2xl9hBLsk
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>>166305521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HZlokn-qw8
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>>166298450
good post op
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>>166298450
Damn edgy contrarian 12 year olds.
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hee ho
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>>166256073
Inanna
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>>166295816
Humans in IV's universe are too retarded to trust. They need demons or a creator god to keep them in line.
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>>166311278
>Even Lucifer realized this was true in 4's Chaos ending
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>>166311602
>there are still people who argue that neutral routes aren't a bad idea when humanity has proven time and time again that they're literally the cause of their own demise
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>>166312597
>who are you quoting?
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>>166312597
Remember
The White were right
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why is the daedalus theme so fucking good
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Can Uzume just not learn War Cry from fusing in Nocturne? The dumb cunt has a mouth.
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>>166312776
Yep.
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>be neutral before going to ichigaya
>kick kenjis ass first try
>chose to preserve status quo and got the law lock
>fuck.jpg
>reload save, realize i forgot to save before pressing the button
>Fuck.jpg
>get outskilled by kenji's mamudo and lose the fight 5 times in a row
>FUCK.jpg
>choose to destroy status quo
>puts me on neutral lock, some fucking how

Everything turned out okay I guess.
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>>166317585
tfw too neutral for neutral ending
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Anybody else waste massive amounts of time in IV and Apocalypse on special fusions as soon as they become available? I always try to make dope versions of special demons as soon as I reach their level, fusing out their weaknesses and adding pleromas and shit. Buying from the compendium gets hard on the wallet after a while
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>>166148830
Reminder /smtg/ destroyed a rival smt community over some SJW and his faggot feelings
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>>166318301
Buy our macca DLC, son of man
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>>166318748
literally who
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>>166318748
literally who
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>YHVH's second form
>fair
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>>166315792
>2017
>Nocturne
Just drop that tired piece of garbage.
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I managed to find a PAL version of SMTIV: Apocalypse, however it's the German version. Is the game itself in German or is it just the box and manual? I'm a Britbong so I only know English.
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>Finally get through the hellhole that is Cosmic Egg
>oh thank fuck it's over I guess I beat the game
>lol now go through YHVH's Universe and kill him
i wanna die
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>>166323426
you're supposed to enjoy your video games anon
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>>166324192
it's hard sometimes
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>>166325796
Then do something you actually enjoy. That's why we're alive.
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>Enjoying things
When will this meme end?
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>>166323426
>Excited to drop kick YHVH in the face
>Am worried that I won't actually get to given how SMT4's choices worked out
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>>166327861
4A has way more obvious branch points than 4, as long as you aren't a complete retard you should be good
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>>166328069
That's the impression I've gotten so far, yeah. I just want to stick with my Shonen Squad and meme all over YHVH with the Power of Friendship.
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>>166327861
If you're past the Cosmic Egg then you can't fail at this point
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>>166328189
You're making the wrong choice, kid.
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>>166328230
Good

>>166328321
The only "right" choice was the White and we know how that ends up. If I can't have a World of Nothingness then I'll settle for a WORLD OF SUCC.
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>>166328189
The partners are all annoying and obnoxious. The narrative slightly improved when Pascal the Imouto gets killed, mostly because I don't have to deal with her thirsty behind getting jealous and starting a fight with Inanna-Toki.
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>>166220858
Do you really want to hear Inanna scream as she births waves of demons?
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>>166331987
>hear Inanna scream
Yes.
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I'm liking the crew aspect of SJ, I hope everyone won't die as I anticipate will happen.
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>>166332761
Nobody matters in SJ. They may all as well be dead.
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>>166332761
Most of the ones with personality survive if you do the correct route.
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>>166331271
fuck you pascal is perfect
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>>166331271
I don't really mind any of them to be honest. I guess partly because SMT is grim as fuck and I enjoyed the levity they brought to an otherwise bleak setting.
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>>166333113
Pascal is a dumb heal slut late game. I have plenty of demons, including Krishna who have better healspells than her.
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>tfw you meet a fiend by accident in IV
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TOGETHER WE MAKE THE GOD SLAIYERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbCM1pREIDM
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>Izanami used Diaharan
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Sonichu x SMT when
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>>166333931

high shovel
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>>166334228
Why doesn't every boss just give themselves diaharan?
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>>166334228
>>166338703
>izanami uses diarrhea
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>>166338703
This wouldn't be too bad with more skills that inflict Brand
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First playthrough of SMT IV, I think I ended up with neutral, and White Issachar is fucking me up.
Any tips, anon?
Tips on dialogue choice would also be great. Picking one of them reduced my health to 1, and completely drained my mana.
And that was in my best run of the fight, I couldn't recover from that at all.
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someone please buy and scan the SJ art book
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>>166345264
Schwarzwelt Reminiscences? I have that, I wouldn't call it an art book though. Mostly interviews and stuff
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>>166345502
Still sounds interesting enough, but I can't read Japanese so rip
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how big are Asahi' pascals? b cup is my guess
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>>166346202
she's like 15, pedo
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>>166346283
silly anon, cartoon characters don't have ages
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>>166338703
I liked it when Zeus used it and then entered his second phase.
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>>166346283
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>>166298450
I liked how you included P3P because you're unsure about which P3 game is the best version.
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>Mitra Buddha uses Charge
>Use Attack Mirror
"I'm a fucking genius"
>Mitra Buddha uses TETRABREAK
I don't even know why I bother using -karn shit in this game.
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>>166344116
If you meet Stephen in the White Forest you are neutral.

Fuse Demonhee-ho and he will be extremely useful in 4/5 of the fights. And I don't remember the dialogues, but if you can't find the answers online, just choose the prompt that lets you keep fighting like normal.
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>open smtg
>read spoilers
>scream
>cry
>go back to my game
why do I continue to do this to myself
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>>166347102
Demonhee-ho's like 10 levels higher than the stuff in the White Forest, I doubt he's a high enough level for that.
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>>166347690
The P3 MC revives in the best ending of P5.
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>>166347726
Bosses level you up quite fast, and the encounters in that area gave me tons of EXP, so I doubt I was overleveled because I still found that section to be challenging.
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>>166346283
ain't 15 a consent age in most of the world?
>>166347813
bullshit
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>>166347983
>ain't 15 a consent age in most of the world?
Yeah, with other 15 year olds.
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Does IMAGINE have a good story? Where can I learn more about it?
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>>166348125
Imagine didn't have a good anything.

Except for maybe music.
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>>166347953

My MC is level 62 right now.
I'll see what I need to get Demonhee-ho when I wake up tomorrow.
I've had a bro tier Black Frost on my team for a long while, and it actually made me want to do a Jack only run for Law/Chaos, so I didn't consider fusing >>166347983
Demonhee-ho at all.
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>>166348367

This entire post is a disaster.
Good night, thanks for the help.
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>>166348367
>stunned
>1 HP left
Impressive.

And I still understood your post with no problem.
Sleep well anon, and don't let the demons eat you.
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>>166346283
This trigger the american
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My friend needs inspiration for a certain art piece. I was gonna show him a pic of that one demon with the penis armor or rather the armor plate piece with the design of a penis on it but sadly I don't know the name of that demon nor do I have a pic. Honestly, can someone send me like every old piece of penis art Kaneko did?
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>>166349157
What is with Kaneko's weird obsession with dicks?

I don't have your dick armor demon though sorry
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What is the Castlevania Symphony of the Night of megaten?
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>>166349680
You know which one I'm talking about though right?
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Alright, I'm at the point where you choose to side with Dagda or your friends, I'm guessing it's too late to get the bonds route huh? Or does it not end here?
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>>166350814
Nocturne
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>>166351723
You can freely choose whatever route you want.
But if your previous choices through the game are incoherent with your route, you'll be punished.

In this case you will lose all your demons for behaving like an unlikeable edgelord and choosing the worst route.
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>>166351945
Well I've mostly been picking the friendly options. I just want to dropkick YHVH without murdering my friends to do it.
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>its another mind break flynn episode
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>They brought back the Domain Boss theme for Dagda
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>>166351945
Does it actually hurt you to be the edgelord all the time? I want to do the Dagda route in NG+ anyway but from what I have seen so far the "selfish" options are just pants on head retarded and seem almost always to be the dumb thing to do no matter the moral standpoint.
So do they bring bad consequences with them or will Asahi just scream "you faggot" and you do the nice thing anyway?
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>>166353115
The members of your party will have a different dialogue in their battle depending if you were nice to them or not.

Outside of that, not really, but you can use your friends as meat shields in some boss fights.
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>>166352063
then just don't murder your friends you fuckin dipshit
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>>166353490
Asahi deserves to be a meat shield. Worst dog ever. Although she does serve one function...
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>>166355987
fuck you homo sucking dicks
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>>166355413
Easy enough
>Eating Antichthons for days
That's the hard part.
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>>166348837
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_z6MtRmmsg
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>>166358736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNag9_NO1CQ
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So I started playing SMT4A finally and about 6~ hours in. I don't remember what the fuck happened in SMT4 though, is there a place to read the plot?

I'm tired of skimming fucking gamefaqs boards to try and remember.
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>Set up Asahi as partner against Vishnu so I can open up with Doping, some buffs/debuffs, and have her heal
>She uses fucking Smile Charge
>Vishnu kills two people right off the bat with Antichthon
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>>166359709
>Note book that will even tell you how to fry chicken.
>Asahi even tells you that you should read that shit if you don't have a clue what's happening.
>Base plot is literally the last third of the previous game till Apocalypses actual plot starts happening.
>Free DLC that explains absolutely everything even things that were up to speculation.
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>decide to bump the difficulty up from War to Apocalypse
>miss every 3rd attack
>every hit all and multi hit attack is guaranteed to have at least one miss
>hordes are made multiple times harder
>Nanashi has whooping 159 in ag and he's still missing this much

Should I even bother with this difficulty? Seems like total bullshit unless I grind incense like mad. I made a save right before this difficulty change.
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>>166256073
The SMT IV Archangels.
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>>166360303
I didn't knew that there are people out there who like to eat fried chicken with lemon, I have to try it sometime.

And yeah, anon is pretty stupid.
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>>166360809
Your choice entirely, people here act like even apocalypse Apocalypse is for babies so even if you make it through, your /smtg/ friends won't be impressed anyway.

>>166361035
>Not lusting after Merkabah's perfectly shaped milky manboobs instead.
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>>166361198
I don't even know what I'm doing wrong. I made sure to put a decent amount of points in Ag and I even have demons higher leveled than those I normally encounter. I guess I could start abusing Smile Charge and buff every fight but that would just leave every encounter longer and more of a drag, plus I would have to keep running around in circles to recover MP afterwards.
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>>166361198
Merkabah's full body is kinda scary to be honest.
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>>166361420
As far as I know Ag works more like a Speed stat determining if you or the enemy gets first strike on the map or if both face each other when bumping into each other.
It also "roughly" determines who goes when in your party and calculates into your flee chance, which I heard isn't even a thing on apocalypse(?).

Maybe try more luck instead or you are right and buffing your hit rate is exactly what they want from you.
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>>166361420
The whole point is probably to make you have to think about every encounter instead of blazing through everything. So if you want to be able to breeze past them then drop back to War. Most random enemies should be vulnerable to the bind status, otherwise you'll have to spam sukus.
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You're friends w-with Demons?
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>>166362424
Demons are not for friendship, Demons are tools.
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>>166361585
I like the design but it makes no sense at all compared to other higher ups like Metatron.

Why do the Archangels and Merkabah look like, no pun intended, cancer?
Isn't that in contrast to their alignment and motive of being gods robotic drones?
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>>166362509
Aw.
How many Demons have run off after giving them shit for you Anon?

Demons are very much for both.
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>>166362627
>I like the design but it makes no sense at all compared to other higher ups like Metatron.
That's because Merkabah is supposed to be an amalgamation of angels, it's not a sengular entity.

>>166362424
Hallelujah is a cool dude.
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>>166362673
>Try to scout pic related
>It runs off
>Try to stop it with my drawn weapon
>It runs away anyway but leaves a note saying it wants to join me next time
>Happy like a puppy I remembered it and joins during the next encounter

Sometimes I'm not sure if those interactions were programmed by actual human beings.
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>>166323346
Only box and manual, I also got German version.
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>>166353115
>Does it actually hurt you to be the edgelord all the time?
In battles yes since the selfish options will give you buffs/healing that you could get easily while the pals options will give you assist charge which is infinitely more valuable.

Outside of battles generally this:
>Asahi just scream "you faggot" and you do the nice thing anyway?
will happen.
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>>166347813
FUCK
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>>166351945
>choosing the worst route
Edgelord route is much better than friendship route
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>>166361420
>tfw you run luck build
>titanomachia never misses and always gives you smirk
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>>166367820
I think luck is kinda too strong, no matter what build you do going for, keeping luck on the same level as your main damage stat is kind of mandatory, otherwise you are just gimping yourself.
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>>166295035
That wasn't strange at all, was it? Dagda wanted to tear down everything.
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>>166368000
Nice trips.

Also it was strange. Yeah Dagda wanted to tear down everything but maybe we could have reached a compromise. They just try to kill you immediately.
>>
Is there a 3rd rematch with Shesha? That second fight was the most boring braindead "story"bossfight, you know what I mean, I seen in a while. Too bad because I was really fighting for my life to survive the first encounter
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>>166368262
Yes
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>>166368156
>reaching a compromise
>with Dagda
>with YHVH
>so close to the heart of the cosmic egg
Don't think so
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>>166368906
>Krisha's up ahead
>We don't know if we can stop him
>Let's take a moment to stop and kill each other over ideological difference
Real smart.
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>>166368956
I honestly don't see the difference, you'd have to kill both anyway. If I were them, I'd rather kill Dagda before meeting with Krishna to avoid fighting them back-to-back (or even worse, together)
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Is gunning any fun in Apocalypse? I've been doing so many physical builds lately that I want to try magic, yet gunning sounds fun as well.
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>>166333451
Having nobody that needs healing or needs an ailment cured usually forces Pascal's AI to grant smirk to MC or a demon
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>>166359027
>>166358736
I don't care if it's not translated I'm going to play that fucking game
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>>166361585
>>166362627
>>166362819
They were meant to seem like bugs in IV, reminiscent of worker bees or maybe ants
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>>166369921
It's dope as long as you keep around mudo/hama/ and something to cause bind.
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>Nanashi gets the same mark from Dagda as the two Akiras have on their chins
this can't be a coincidence
>>166370247
>mudo/hama
What for? Also, should I go 3/1/1?
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>>166369921
you can abuse the various status effect bullets with the smgs making especially normal horde fights easy as shit and will prevent strong random groups from stomping you if you can't kill them in the first round.
Also using the right bullets for the right boss is also fun.

For example I'm using pink shot at the moment and can just fokus the enemies I didn't afflict, with rest usually just killing themselves or being horny on their turn, which is often worth a little smirk.
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>>166370310
>>mudo/hama
>What for? Also, should I go 3/1/1?
2/1/2
More luck means more crits and more smirks
the smirks allow for mudo/hama to instant kill, which is incredibly helpful on things that resist gun or whatever elemental bullets you may be using.
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>>166370408
Alright, thanks. Buying guns and bullets sounded like a lot of fun, so I'm looking forward to it
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>start NG+
>have Lucifer in my stock since he was attached to the DDS
>try to recruit Caldrius
>Give me your friend Lucifer's life!
>he takes it
Fucking brutal
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What the fuck are you doing? It's your final fight, you don't have time for this.
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so strange journey guy can't use magic? what the hell does he do? just shoot guns? that doesn't sound very strong...
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Decarabia a cute.
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>>166371432
> SJ.
> Anything but neutral.
> Going for the easiest route on top of that.
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>>166327130
>That's why we're alive
Living is but a state of perpetual pain and suffering, we live only for the few good moments it brings forth.
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>>166346283
>Americans
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What is the superior option?

Discuss.
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Did anyone else get a bug in SMT1 when you go fight Zouchouten where after you beat him the text breaks and the fight loops?
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>>166376162
Ah, not to mention I'm Chaos alligned so even having to fight him is bugged in and of itself I think.
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>>166375716
If the writing were better, siding with Dagda would easily be the better choice.
The way the game is, destroying the egg makes a fuckload more sense.
I really wanted to side with Dagda but I couldn't find a way to justify it. If only agreeing with Dagda DIDN'T mean being a massive edgy cunt for no reason up to that point.

DUDE, JUST ACT LIKE A CUNT TO SOMEONE WHO JUST LOST THEIR FATHER, LMAO.
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>>166376331
I agree that choices are retarded, but plot after the lock is much better if you side with Dagda
>Asahi is revived
>everyone lives happily ever after
>btw nanashi is a messiah
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I REGRET MY DECISION IMMEDIATELY
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>>166376790
If they had fleshed out Dagda a little more prior to the choice, and not had it be an EVERYONE OR NO ONE deal with your fucking partners, it might not be as aids.

Like, why the fuck does Toki fight you. She LITERALLY says she'll stick by your side no matter your choice in the scene before.

Apocalypse is lucky that the combat is so fucking good, because the writing is anus.
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>>166377201
Too late now
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>>166377201
Don't worry, the alternative is just as bad, if not worse.
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To pass a skill I just need to make an elemental and then create a mitama to fuse with the original demon yes?
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>>166377282
>If they had fleshed out Dagda a little more prior to the choice
His motivation is prett clear, in my opinion. YHVH is demonizing other deities, and he wants to return to the elements or whatever he does.

The thing with Toki is a minor detail. The amount of bullshit/asspulls in Massacre is nothing compared to Bonds route
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Is it worth taking Anticthon over Megidoloan?

I know Anticthon does more damage and can lower stats, but it costs more than twice as much MP.
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>>166379220
Just go for Great Logos
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It has been months since I've been here, does anyone know when the second Quantum Devil Saga volume will be released in english? I just want to know what's up in the 3rd volume, it's a huge gay flashback between Serph and Heat apparently, but I feel like it'll take forvever until the whole series is released in english.

By the way, I'm in the middle of the power plant in DDS2, how long until I beat the game?
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Really trying to enjoy DeSu2:RB, but it's rather annoying, deepite having like 2x as many demons as Desu1, you can only get about the same ones from the auction house, meaning that it is very hard to get the demons that you want to fuse.

pls help smtg
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>>166382003
Gameshark
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So I'm playing SMT2 for the third time and got three Fiend encounters already - Alice and 2 Matadors, which never happened before. Guess third time's a charm.

Did you fight any Fiends in SMT2, /smtg/? How many of them did you encountered?
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>>166382794
i hope atlus somehow releases a translated version of these ports for the anniversary
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>>166370310
>>Nanashi gets the same mark from Dagda as the two Akiras have on their chins
>this can't be a coincidence
It's not and it's abundantly obvious that it's not.
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>>166383595
Yeah, that would've been cool. I wish they kept the smooth scrolling of the PS version, but also included Visionary Items and new 2D Field from the GBA version, and extended music from SMT If (like they did in the iOS port).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6raag3ayk
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>>166382794
>>166384096
>Filters
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>>166375716
Destroying the Cosmic Egg. The whole "Standing on your own" thing is a load of hypocritical horseshit because Dagda literally *can't* accomplish his goal on his own.
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About to start playing Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei. My experience with the series so far is Nocturne, 4, Devil Survivor, and Soul Hackers.

Anything I should know before going in?
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>>166385068
be prepared for the most boring dungeon in the series; mazurka
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>>166385068
tfw too contrarian for 1 & 2
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>>166385136
Not that guy but it can't be worse than the Tower of Kagatsuchi
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>>166385136
Gotcha

>>166385301
I'm still gonna play SMT 1 and 2, just wanted to try out the very first games.
If they're too boring or dated then I might skip them.
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>>166385374
it's a super fucking big dungeon, it's so big that they split it in TWO parts

it's nothing but boring stone walls with shitty enemy spawns that are super hard to run away from (you also can't negotiate with them because this was before you could recruit chaos demons) with a super fucking repetitive theme
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>>166385374
that has multiple boss fights with their own gimmicks
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>>166384416
It was turned on by default, senpai. Thanks for pointing it out, I fixed it now.
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>>166381775
I think you have the Airport after the plant, after which you have the final dungeon. Make sure to kill the extra bosses before finishing the Airport, you won't get a chance to do so after you complete it.
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GUYS CHECK SHIN-MEGAMITENSEI.JP NOW!!!!!!!!!
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>>166385136
>>166385374
There is no worse dungeon than World of Sloth, period.
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>>166385859
well it is called the world of sloth

but hey those graphics do remind me of mazurka
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>>166385837
Ok, I guess the final dungeon is as long to explore as the one in the first game then, because I'm only 12h in the game. I'll try the side quests, I 'll check a guide to see if I don't miss any of them.
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>>166373495
Shit anime
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Same guy from earlier
>super cool and foreboding intro to dds megami tensei 1
>ready to start and get comfy
>this fucking music

https://youtu.be/fKVFnriRZUc
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>>166386861
well it's perfect for a village of friendly demons

wait until you hear daedalus
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>>166370310
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>>166375716
Both are shit. Destroying it makes more sense as a real thing to do, but taking it is a little more interesting.
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the 3ds project will be devil children remake
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>>166386929
Alright, yeah. That's way better.
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just found out Dagda's VA is the same guy who was the smash 4 announcer and is Persona 5 MC voice. pretty cool.
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>>166387962
This is your Krishna tonight
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i want a pokemon mystery dungeon like smt
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>>166387962
VERSUS

Fighting BONDS Team
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i didn't know that demikids had a anime i knew that the original devil children.
is it any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrerG8W8HsQ
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What happens after Nocturne TDE ? What should I play now ?
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>>166388343
we need digital devilmon
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>>166388814
is it true that cybersluts is a megaten game in everything but the name?
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>>166388892
I wouldn't go that far.

But the Royal Knights did feel like lawfags.
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>>166381775
>It has been months since I've been here, does anyone know when the second Quantum Devil Saga volume will be released in english?

never ever, it was supposed to be released around Christmas
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>>166387962
Why do SMT MCs even have voice actors? They don't say anything.
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>>166389479
the grunts and for the anime!
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>>166389479
Burroughs!
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>>166389479
Flynn and Nanashi talk though
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>>166389725
Is Flynn's VA in Final the same as it was in IV? I haven't actually heard Nanashi say anything other than "Dagda!"
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>>166389803
Not that anon
Not sure if in English but you can bet he is in the Japanese version with their VA autism and all.
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>>166386861
I do not comprehend the meaning of this post.

Micom is fucking good.
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>>166389656
Fuck I'm having more fun with SMT Apocalypse over all but damn I miss my AI operator.
Dagda only making "Heh" sounds outside of cutscenes is a bit of a letdown.
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>>166389803
Pretty sure they are, they sound the same at least. I should probably double check that. As for Nanashi, He is Akira, so any of the scenes with Akira talking in Final is him.
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>>166388814
I don't remember SMT Nine having that HUD.
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>slog through shitload of exposition that takes a long time to go through even when holding X
>have a long tedious fight with shitty angels
>have a long tedious fight with more shitty angels
>more exposition
>fight this asshole
>keep using Makarakarn to avoid being smirked to death by death shit
>run out of Chakra pot
>barely manage to beat him after getting game over 5 times
>reinforcements cutscene ft. dante
>surrender because fuck having to fight again
>have to fight him again anyway with everyone on low health (fuck you hallelujah)
>use my final Makarakarn I didn't know I still had and heal up
>he attacks Hallelujah instead
>keep attacking, avoiding his shield strengths
>uses his death shit on me
>get smirked to death
>all without a chance to save
How the fuck are you supposed to beat this cunt?
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>>166390404
Magic Mirror senpai
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>>166390504
Where can I get those? Sidequest reward?
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>>166390404
>having hallelujah as a partner
for what purpose
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>>166390597
Because the scene demands it, it's not an option.

>>166390556
Sidequest rewards, breaking those barnacle things, etc. I just stockpiled them over time.
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>DeSu 2
>Bai Suzhen voice

Sweet mother of delicious
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>>166384647
He wants you to do that. He just wants to be free.
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>>166148830
another day, still no news on smt3DS
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>>166384096
>>166382794
Cant believe there is no english patch of this
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>Nephilim are 400 feet tall.
>Hallelujah is a manlet.
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>>166383595
Fuck that, 3DS remake with all the bonus features and press turn
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>>166392952
>MUH PRESS TURNS
shut the fuck up
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>>166392952
Hope so
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>>166393052
Whats bad about press turn, bitch?
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>>166384051
I had only played the game for about five minutes when I made that post
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>>166392909
He is just in his baby form, give him sometime.
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>>166393052
Whats wrong with press turns
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>>166389448
I wanted to make it my Christmas present actually. I suddenly remembered the name of the translator and checked his twitter, apparently there's no official release date yet but the project is not dropped (at least not yet). It seems like he already read the 3th volume, too.

>>166389479
For the eventual anime and drama CD adaptations. And some of them get to voice the MC and other characters anyway, so it's not always a waste to hire a super famous voice actor. Obviously I'm talking about the Japanese voice actors here.
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>>166393216
>Asking potentially plot relevant questions prior to playing the game
That said it's made abundantly clear like an hour into the game at most.
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>>166393286
Not him, but late-game bosses should have four press turns instead of just 3
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>>166393438
couldn't help it
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So I don't get the auction in DeSu2

Unlike the first one do you only bid once and hope you got the highest amount?
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>>166387689
is devil children any good?
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>>166394139
I can't really blame them since the auctions of DeSu1 were broken.

Just remember how your opponents are feeling before you bid.
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>>166395024
Yeah took me another bid and I see how it works. It's a lot faster I suppose but bidding is normally raising and raising until you win.

This feels more like that part of The Price Is Right where you guess the closest amount to what the prize is worth
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>>166393467
DEFINITELY this.
If not that, then give them more fucking health. Some fights were a complete and utter joke towards the end.
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>>166396679
>>166393467
Just play on Apocalypse, tough guys. Guarantee you wont think that 4 press turns is needed then.
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>>166397096
But I fuckingdid.

My first playthrough was a blind run on the Apocalypse setting with no other DLC. Bosses needed either more health or 4 press turns towards the end.
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>>166397270
Is Apocalypse even unlocked from the beginning? Do I need DLC to get that?
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>>166397446
It's free DLC, along with some super easy babby setting.
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Has there been an SMT game in some sort of futuristic space setting? If not, do you think it would work? It could be some sort of alternate dimension Tokyo.
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>>166397446
It's free day one DLC.

Don't ask why it wasn't included with the game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIJLKG-OJ3A
friend is streaming nocturne
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>>166394753
I've played Black Book with a guide and it's one of my favorite SMT games, so I can only imagine Red Book being better with Mirai.
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>>166397715
What do you mean by futuristic space setting? Like Buck Rogers? Digital Devil Saga is probably the most high tech setting of the SMT games, off the top of my head.
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>>166387689
I would believe it since they trademark Devil Riser or did something along the lines of that recently.
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>>166397917
>20th anniversary persona
>not a 25th anniversary SMT pic
Dropped.
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>>166397981
yeah buck rogers or star wars. you know I wouldn't mind a spinoff of smt where everything takes place in all sorts of locations throughout the cosmos. Tokyo is cool and can be used infinitely technically, but the SMT atmosphere and concepts can be so fucking good when at its best that I'd love to see what they'd come up with.
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>>166369349
What happens if they successfully kill Nanashi but lose most of their team? How are they going to beat Krishna? This doesn't apply to Nanashi since he has Dagda the Resurrector on his side.
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>>166387376
Wait what? Where's that fact about Asahi revealed?
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>>166398646
then again, maybe part of the reason why SMT works so well is because it is kind of grounded in what feels like a reality at least somewhat similar to ours since we understand what Tokyo is supposed to be. they take the setting and bend it into some really far out shit.
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>>166392952
>press turn
If that ever happens, I'll cum buckets.
One of the biggest problems of SMT1&2 was the lack of balance and strategy - you could literally break the game from the start and beat it even without using demons.
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>>166382003
DeSu2 is easy as fuck. Don't be a crybaby.
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>>166148830
>SMT HD

What the fuck does that even mean
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>>166399358
It means a non-240p SMT game.
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>>166399358
Shin Megami Tensei in high definition.
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>it's another "the boss starts spamming megidolaon" episode
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>>166399590
They sometimes do that if you try to be cheeky and absorb/null all of their other attacks.

You're better off just eating the elemental attacks in that case.
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>>166399713
>fuse strong demons
>get punished for using them
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Would SMT be better without mirrors?
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>>166399358
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>>166399880
Clearly they aren't strong enough if they can't survive a few Megidolaon.
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>>166399713
>Hey this game is full of difficult challenges
>But we gave you all these cool tools, have fun
>What are you doing? You can't use those tools!
>You lose. Try again scrub.

smtfags will defend this.
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>>166399951
my demons survived the megidolaon
I didn't
there's no hp or defensive stat in IV
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>>166400136
>I didn't
Then you don't deserve to summon demons in the first place. Give back your COMP.
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>>166399590
>Vishnu starting off with like +2 to all stats and spamming Antichthon and Shine More
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hello, can someone explain to me why you guys are allowed to have two generals?
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>>166399410
>>166399453
Last time that happened we got persona killing SMT
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>>166400698
because we are hardcore hackers
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>>166400698
Why do you ask? What are you gonna do about it?
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>>166400858
I'm going to unify this divided world.
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>>166401007
Try to unify your penis with a vagina before talking about unifying the world.
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>>166401195
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>>166400802
what are you even talking about
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>>166401195
Fucking lol
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>>166401195
Destroyed.
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The girls in Apocalypse are so poorly written they make Isabeau look positively memorable.
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>>166404057
>Asahi
>Poorly written
Out.
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>>166404057
maybe that was their plan

>people say Isabeau was forgettable
>make the new chicks in IV:A so annoying people remember her in a good light
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>>166385853
(You)
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>>166405795
Use this.
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>>166405997
Nice
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>>166405997
Don't use Heat for your shitposting.
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>>166407791
Shitposting is for everyone.
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>>166408325
Don't do that.
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>>166216931
>that SMT4A is the hardest mainline SMT
What the fuck? It's one of the easiest.
I've played the game on hard from the beginning and the only parts where I died were the Krishna and YHVH fights.
Nocturne and SJ's random encounters are harder than most of the bosses in 4F.
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>>166408906
>Nocturne and SJ's random encounters are harder than most of the bosses in 4F.
neither of those are hard outside of lolmudo
maybe you were just new when you played SJ
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>>166408906
>Krishna
obviously meant Vishnu

>>166409359
>maybe you were just new when you played SJ
No, replaying it right now. The physical demons can easily kill you in the beginning with their multi-hit attacks.
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>>166408906
>Nocturne
>hard

Past the first hour of the game which is literal gambling RNG, and then hard mode just means that you'll have to grind for more money.
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Wow, I got another one.
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>>166409569
You fucked up with your meme arrows, dude.
I didn't say that Nocturne was hard, I said that the random encounters are harder than most of the bosses in 4F.
Gambling RNG is one of the only things Atlus adds, to make their games hard. And I can't really blame them because there are not many ways to make an RPG hard. Mechanics like press turn and smirk are easily abusable turning the game into a find weakness, abuse it shitfest that I wouldn't really call hard.
Making the enemies hit harder is a legit way and that's what difficulty settings are for but it didn't work in 4A because of press turn, smirk and the fucking party mechanic, if the enemy even gets a turn, you suck ass. Money grinding shouldn't be necessary though, that's only tedious.
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nakajima is the cutest boy
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>>166408906
Nocturne is very easy. Random encounters mean nothing if you have White Rider.
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>>166411812
what would his alignment even be
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What did she mean by this?
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>>166411960
Starts off Chaos, becomes neutral, then either Chaos again (book 3) or stays neutral (video game)
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>>166411969
how do I take pictures that aren't flipped? I need my images of 14 year olds being sexually stimulated to be upright.
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>>166411969
Stop cumming on your bottom screen or at least clean it before taking a photo
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>>166413626
I'm sorry. the moans and the thought of those moist lips quivering; I couldn't help myself
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>>166412505
Here you go.
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>>166389803
Flynn has the same voice actor but that single line where he says "Burroughs" sounds way different from his voice in Apocalypse. Maybe there was less directing for IV since Flynn barely has any lines. Still hard to believe that's Nazeem from Skyrim.
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>>166412505
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>>166415825
>>166415609
I want you both to kill yourselves
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>>166416010
The vore one is gross yes but mine is innocent.
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>>166415609
>Navarre going in to cop a feel
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I wonder why they thought it would be a good idea to dress a 14 year old in a latex fetish outfit.
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What's SMT's largest non-religious text influence?

Would it just be Devilman?
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>>166408906
>the only parts where I died were the Krishna and YHVH fights.
I find this a little hard to believe unless you've grinded or minmaxed. Shit like the Maitreya battle was almost impossible to be prepared for.
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Is the SMT audience full of pedophiles?
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>>166416386
>14 year old in a latex fetish outfit.
I think you just answered your own question
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>>166416689
It's a phase that happens when the MC and the main heroines of the latest game are 14 year olds.
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>>166416689
No, but the SMT general on 4chan naturally will be
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>>166416689
I, once again, want to stress the difference between the terms pedos and lolicons in the english-speaking community.
Please don't confuse these two.
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>>166416465
Where should I start with Devilman?
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>>166416689
Honestly what were you expecting?

SMTIVA Heroines:

Asahi: Sister and best friend. Many tender moments in the game. Gets jealous when other women show affection for (You). Literally dies for you.

Nozomi: 0 romantic interest. Rats you out to the authorities.

Isabeau: 0 romantic interest. Everyday spent drooling after Flynn.

Toki: Wears fetish outfit. In love with you. Calls you master. Literally screams her love for you and begs you to love her.

Why would anyone not like Asahi or Toki?
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>>166378825
Either way, it's badly written. Bonds is a Persona ending in a game that doesn't have the setting or the characters to earn it, Massacre is a proper SMT ending in a game that has spent too long trying and failing to be Persona to function as SMT... It's still a good game, but it tries to be two series at once and ends up slamming its nuts on the fence separating those series, and the player just gets to choose which series' yard it falls onto and rolls around in pain on while grabbing its crotch.
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>>166418929
Devilman, the important parts of Neo Devilman, Amon OVA, Amon > etc

This post is really good and should guide you through
>http://waaty.tumblr.com/post/73883414259
>tumblr
It's still a good post.

And do not skip the Amon OVA. It doesn't add much, but it's very good.
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>>166148830
Guys...please....can we please add the direct feed smt hd teaser video to the OP next time?
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>>166420042
I tried anon...
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>>166418929
the manga and then avoid devilman lady
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>>166418963
Hal's better than the four anyways.
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>>166416465
The Teito Monogatari novels and the Tokyo: The Last Megalopolis movie are probably large influences.
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>>166418929
I would suggest reading the original manga by Go Nagai, it's fairly short. The OVAs are also worth a watch.
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I am going to post this everyday until you like it!
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>>166423552
I don't like it
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>>166422096
Are the OVAs any good?
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>>166423552
Holy shit. Delete this turd right now.
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>>166423552
hot
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>>166424068
I don't know very much as I've only just learned about the series myself, so I don't have a lot of information,sorry. But I think the OVAs and movie are about the only things in English so far, so they're all we've got.
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>>166239856
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URGENT
Does anyone have that one pic of Alice, High Pixie, Harpy, Lamia, and Yaksini all in dresses and stuff? It's been killing me that I can't find it.
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Just beat SMTIV for the first time, goofed myself into chaos ending but didn't mind. I'm still confused about something though:
Was blasted Tokyo just Japan after a demon cataclysm and before Mikado? Or something else? I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be some sort of repeating cycle type thing, like no matter what you do you'll end up with an Akira who will form Mikado or something, or if it was just a whole new deal. I feel like I missed something by accident that would have made it make sense.
Also, since I just did the chaos route should I go neutral next?
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Why the fuck was K one of the ones that the white chose to take form of? I could understand the others as they were all important to Flynn and would make a difference in influcencing him, but K was literally just a bartender. Why not Master Hope, or Navarre?
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>>166427405
Agreed. I literally didn't even remember who K was by the time I reached the white portion of the game.
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>>166427405
K was someone who could give you advice and talk about events without being to his station like Hope.

He also revealed in IVA to be an unnaturally long lived human and the last domain before Alraunes is mentioned in IV to be centuries ago, and he lost his hand to the demon who made it.

He also accepts each route and never becomes a demon in the dlc.
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>>166425678
yeah I have it
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>>166425719
dumb mothposter
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What area has those really primal sounding drums in SMT4? I can't fucking remember and I love that one.
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>>166432276
Ginza?
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Thinking about forming an endgame team. I'm in the Diet Building (just finished Amala as well) and my current party is Demi, Wu Kong, Daisoujou, and Dante. Should this be solid for endgame or should I look into fusing some new demons? I've got a bunch of deathstones so I can make pretty much any fiend.
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Playing DeSu Overclocked.


What's the best FUCK YEAH HUMANITY ending?
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>>166433893
Atsuro's
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>>166375373
You said what I just said.
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>>166433893
Gin :)
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GRAND TACK MY ASS
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>>166434064
>>166434182
Which is it?
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GRAND
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What if Walter and Jonathan are Kenji and Kiyoharu's reincarnations?
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>>166435613
Is there even a "what if", it didn't exactly seem subtle.
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>>166434320
Atsuro's requires actual faith in humanity but can elevate them to new heights. Gin's route does neither. Take your pick.
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Best girl
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>>166436321
awful taste, we all know who the real waifu is.
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/smtg/, is it normal if i want raidou to fist me on a daily basis?
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>>166399109
In the japanese artbook. Its why she dies in the plot.
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I'm worried my level is too high, i don't know if it's just that everything dies to double debuffs, but i'm not feeling the boss fights anymore.

Just finished Amala Temple's three boss fights and i'm level 63. Is that too much or about right?
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>>166387376
what fucking sister
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>>166438553
I remember being at least level 60 there, so you should be fine.
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>level 60
>matador is still useful
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>There will never be another smt as amazing as nocturne
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>>166439332
>level 100
>Daisoujou is still useful
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>>166439437
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>>166439873
Where the FUCK is kankeo
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>>166439981
Learning how to draw feet
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>>166439437
nocturne is trash bro
same as desu
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>>166440782
You're trash.
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>>166440582
god i love feet
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Is this the end?
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REBUILD
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This boss theme in DeSu2 might be the greatest thing I've heard
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>>166434320
Naoya without murder.
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>>166445017
doesn't make up the all the times the wacky anime hijinks theme is played
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