XCOM General - /xcg/

Kill Aliens.

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#Notallvipersareevil

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Pistols are Useful.

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>>166088780
Still one of the best deliveries I got from the drawthreads on /v/

They should have made renegade Vipers canon.

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>Forgot the image in the last thread anyway
Where? I don't see shit. I was expecting to find the integrated LW Toolbox since they said to not use it with LW2 but there isn't anything in options pertaining to the mod.

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>>166088863
I mean, you could pretend you clonked one on the head hard enough that it forgets it's suppose to hate XCOM.

>>166088865
Check the OTHER TWO new option tabs in the Edit Options section.
Wow people come on this takes less brain cells than I have and I'm fucking retarded.

pistols are useful

>>166089002
Who drew than? And when?

And welp. Another image added to my folder.

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>>166089026
underboss when

>>166089096
I added it to my folder first. IP and Copyright laws dictate that you cannot add it to your folder anymore.

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>>166089096
No idea, I saved it from /v/. I like cute Viper pics. Don't mind the porn, but more "nice" pics would be better.

>>166089002
How difficult would it be to make a skin for the playable aliens so that they look like they are outfitted by XCOM instead of just reusing the original model?

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A reminder that star wars cyclops mod exists

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>>166089009
???
Theres nothing fucking here.

>>166089250

you didn't follow the LW2 installation instructions like the fucking knob you are. what a surprise.

>>166089250
Are you doing this from in-game or from the main menu options?
Don't think the options can be accessed outside of a save.

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>>166089231
No clue, but I imagine it would be a week long thing at least.

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>>166089236
QT anime cyclops mod when

>>166089105
GROSS

>>166089336
I ask this because before the alien hunters dlc vipers were customizable and had XCOM logos on their armor, and the mod author isn't giving us the model or even releasing a separate mod that doesn't require alien hunters
If there are any modders here XCOM skins for aliens would make me a happy commander

Instead of upgrading weapon tiers you have to buy the individual weapons in Long War 2? How does that interact with mods? In the old system, the weapon with the mods would automaticaly go to the next tier. How does this work with Long War 2? Does Long War 2 give you the ability to remove your weapon mods to put on your next tier weapon?

>>166089231
For someone experienced with modeling and modding xcom, literally less than a couple hours.

>import viper mesh
>import xcom chestpiece
>adjust so it fits properly
>add greebles if they're necessary to complete the look
>probably don't even have to fiddle with weights much
>test animations, make adjustments if necessary
>export model for use in-game
>do modder things so it's a selectable or default armor

I figure it's an 8-hour job at most and could plausibly be done in 2 hours if everything goes perfectly smoothly.

Is there any UI indicator for concealment/sneakiness in long dong 2? Nigs have different detection radius' because of it but I can't see any specifics about it on the loudout screen.

>>166089607
I'm a broke college student but I would be estatic if I found out that someone would do such a thing... even if it was only for the viper

>>166089607

This. If you want new stuff though, that would take considerably longer. But if it's just adapting existing gear to them it's really easy.

That's not taking into account freaks like Berserkers though, they'd need new stuff. probably.

>>166089742
I mean you could just add the vigilo confido logo as a tattoo or a brand for the "nude" aliens

>>166089062
Flashbangs are love
Flashbangs are life
Flashbangs are great
Flashbangs are merciful
Praise be to Flashbangs
Death to the ayyy lmaos

>>166089485

>this can happen in long dong 2

what were they thinking

>>166089803
>Defected Vipers become Uncle toms of the alien world.

>>166089848
Wait vipers can swallow operatives?

>>166089827
what radius effect do they have?

>>166089871
I was thinking more of the beserkers, sectoids, and the chrysallids since niether of them have armor

>>166089890

Late-ish game ability. Functionally identical to bind except you need to kill the viper to stop it rather than just damage them.

xenofucker heretics deserve death

purge them all

remove ayy from premises

>>166089531
Does anyone know how weapon mods(ie. Scopes, stocks, barrels) and upgrading and buying new tier weapons work?

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>losing soldiers simply because the evac point bugged out at the start of the mission and moved to a completely different spot on the map

WEW I GUESS THAT'S XCOM BABY

>>166090357
One of my favorites was losing a major when a thinmint attacked four times in one turn.

>>166089231
Personally, if I knew how to mod I would thave given all Vipers the Bradford sweater with a boob hole like that jap chick had.

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>>166089491

dozo

>>166090748

Personally if I knew how to mod all the ayys would be monster girls and all the xcom operatives would be shotas

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>VIP prison rescue without ever being spotted
W E W
In-and-out.

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>mfw my 3 man Grizzly Squad consisting of only Eastern Slavs operates on the highest level of operating, performing ayy lmao cleansing with minimal to no injuries

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>>166091000
>mfw half my A team are escaped convicts

>launch longwar 2
>crash
>relaunch
>all my mods have been deleted

epic

>>166091130
filth has been purged

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>start up LW2 for the first time
>starting squad is 8 dudes
>can have up to 10 at the start
is this normal?
something feels off

>>166091407

It's normal. You'll probably only use 6 at a time anyway because infiltration

>>166091407
Yes.
You can have up to 10 soldiers on a mission.
However this is bad for infiltration because it means it will take longer, and cause more enemies to appear on the map.

You might wanna watch the Long War 2 Introduction video on jewtube.

>>166091407
yes but you wanna you smaller teams anyway

>>166091584
use*

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I think the game is attempting to tell me something

>8 soldier VIP extraction
>encounter first pack with 6 aliens and not worried
>immediately discover 6 more.

Truly i have fallen victim to magnificent design, this gun be gud.

>>166087898
make the game about fun, tactical, and mentally engaging firefights and not about speedrunning ninjas

>>166090879
No point to that unless you mod in sex animations too.

crash fix for pirate-bros when?

>>166092115
NEVER
E
V
E
R

>>166092076

>sex

Well, lewd at least. Not gonna sacrifice gameplay for fap though, shota's gonna still get shot

>>166090272
you can remove the mods anytime you want without losing them

>>166092076
Come to think of it does this game have sex mods?

>>166092518
theres a nude mod

>Hi everybody, thanks for sticking with me while I was working with Pavonis on Longwar 2.
>Now that I have more free time I'll be releasing an update to my mod soon, will do some streaming in the near future as I finish up the new bits!

based capnbubs

>>166092787
Damn that is based

>>166092292
You could find ways to make the gameplay still work without sacrificing fap.
Just look at H-Doom!

Did the overwatch aim penalty get removed for longdong? They seem to be hitting extremely often

>>166092962
Hitting? Or grazing?

>>166092982

Hitting.

Are Shinobi still broken?

>new long dong retallation mission
>haven adviser and rebels get to merc ayys

this would be super comfy if it wasn't so stressful.

>Rookie gets grazed for 1 (PROTECTED) damage
>Proceeds to Panic

God Damn it

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Tacticool

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What the fuck is this shit? Non-activated Sectoids can create zombies from dead ADVENT?

Kill a Trooper, he gets reanimated. OK, guess theres a Pectoid back there I can't see. Move up and oh yeah, theres a Pectoid back there alright.

An unactivated Pectoid and 3 more fucking ADVENT.

What is this shit?

>>166093267
>unactivated

they all kinda activate once you go loud

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>mod mission time left to 41 days
>mod turn timers to 300 or so
>every missions is impregnable waves of ADVENT being mowed down

pretty fun

>>166093267
if sectoids are on alert while patrolling and see an advent corpse they will do a reanimate

it's a good change nigga, makes you actually shoot at psi-zombies for once

>>166093267

Once you're out of concealment all pods are 'alerted' and move towards noise and are semi-active.

>>166090921
how?

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I know Beagle said he would still do his modded campaign even though Long War 2 was coming, but considering how fast it came out and how much it changed and how many new mechanics it introduced (alot of the new pod mechanics are things Beagle has been wishing for quite a awhile) I find that hard to believe.

I'd stake my money on a LW2 campaign pretty hard tomorrow, which I know isn't that bold, but I am tentatively looking forward to it.

Also I think one anon wanted this pic.

>>166092021
There should be some where it's a firefight, and others where you infiltrate, etc.

long dong crew got too focused on a single style of gameplay

>>166093361
If I wanted to deal with psionic bullshit from enemies halfway across the map I'd go play Xenonauts, nigger.

>>166093539
KEK

>>166093592

there are missions like that. maybe get past the first month and you'll see scrub.

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>>166093539

Guys, i think Long War 2 is too hard for me.

>move one character to see if the surroundings are clear of enemies
>slowly move others to his position
>repeat until enemies are found
>if you've accidentally triggered an enemy on your last move, you're fucked
Is there a mod to fix this? Maybe something that adds initiative system to the game.

>>166093910

>getting punished for playing like a dipshit

the mod is called get gud faggot

>>166093238
i really like this squad stuff

>>166093267
If an inactive pod sees another pod in an active firefight, or hears a frag grenade detonate, they will go into "yellow alert" allowing them certain abilities and attacking if they reveal on their turn

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>>166093539

how do i start the fucking missions in long dong am i retard

If I buy the digital deluxe version, will I get the most important dlc's as well?

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>doing really well so far in Long War 2
>new mission: destroy relay
>enemy activity: light
>fast forward to end of mission
Mission...complete. Fucking panic + drone stuns

any good twitch streams going on? i can't sleep and i feel like watching some good LW2

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Look at the fucking infiltration times.

Seriously, what the fuck is this shit? LW never felt this fucking obnoxious. Not even close.

ETA on mod that has Long War 2 content with vanilla difficulty?

>>166094284
when i click on missions nothing happens. doesnt help that the fucking globe runs at 2 fps

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>teleports behind you
>unsheates folded steel
>grazes

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>>166093539

Someone in the chat mentioned that Beagle is still burned out of live XCOM streaming and that he is still trying to make sense of LW2 and doesn't want to spend i hour on the first turn during a stream.. Which is funny because that's -Exactly- what I want to see him doing tomorrow.

>>166094496

You don't have enough nigs on intel so they didn't find it in time.

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>>166094575

Nothing personal Ayy(lmao)

>>166094292
digital deluxe include all currently released dlc.

>>166094496

We are technically in the B1-B6 period.

Give it time.

>>166094713
This is pretty fundamental shit. 1 person should not take 3 fucking days.

>>166094006
What do you mean? It's not about playing like a dipshit, it's about adding a new way to play because the one I have described becomes stale very quickly. I can't believe you have fun doing to the same thing every turn without even thinking. It's either you kill all the enemies you see on your turn or suffer the consequences. No surprises, no other tactics, nothing. Move, check, move others, move, check, shoot the enemies that appeared on your screen, move, check, move others, move, check, shoot, mission completed. I don't know, I might be wrong but turn-based systems with iniative points, dynamic turns, turn interceptions and other mechanics are more thrilling to play than that. Which is the reason I've asked if there's a mod for that.

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>>166089226
Like this?

so having a squad with little to no variance in mobility is an actual thing now?

Not even LW2 was enough to revitalize the general.

ded game
ded mod
ded thred

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>tfw i realize why timers suck dick in LW2


Remove every single map mod you have installed right now.

After failing around 50% of my missions because of the timers, i realized one simple thing that hit me like a motherfucking brick in the back of my head when i was playing a warehouse custom map.

Those fucking PCP maps are way too large for the intended uses of LW2 and vanilla, if you play on custom maps, you would need to dash 4 times in a row to get to the god damn objective.

However i started a clean game with my mods but without the maps and i started to realize that i could dash 1 or 2 times and be on top of the objective 80% of the time (out of 10 missions 2 were 3 dashes away with plenty of time to spare)

So either do that shit and remove every map, or edit the .inis and add 3 or 4 extra turns to Long War.

>>166094496
infiltration times go down if you have more people at your haven on intel

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>think there's only one pod
>there's actually three
>still get a flawless

wew

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>>166095119
>all the amerifats are asleep right now
>ded thred

>>166095212

I removed all the map mods from the very start, doesn't really help much, a lot of the new maps that come with LW2 are extremely large. Lump even said they are "forge sized, the biggest available" or something like that on the Jake stream the other day.

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>>166093910
>>166094797
Use the mod i use since the game came out.

Is called Scamper Balanced and by god i fucking love this mod since it fixes my biggest grip of EU/EW.

Bassically what it does is when you activate a pod and they do their "oh shit we need cover" movement, it refunds you 1 movement/action point.

For example, if you have a squad of 6 and out of the 6 squad members, 4 dashed and the last one to move dashed into a pod, your 6 guys will get 1 point to look for cover or shot the pod, if your guy found 2 pods, you get 2 blue moves instead or yellow moves.

It comes in two flavors:
The one that lets you shot.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=634051073

Or the one that just gives you movment points to look for better cover.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=663244643

>>166095212
>PCP maps are way too large
>PCPs are only range from being 16x16 tiles to 8x8 tiles
What you're looking for is plots and parcels

I've looked through the maps included in LW2, plots are massive and have much smaller spawn zones. Parcels have a few things that are in the wrong places, such as cover objects taking up too much space and eating up movement area.

I've sent a folder of revisions to JL, but at this time, editing the .ini seems like the best option

>>166095212

I think you got lucky, from what i've seen you would be better off using map mods, some of the maps that come with LW2 are ridiculously large.

>>166095557
>but at this time, editing the .ini seems like the best option

where can i find the inis with timers?

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>>166095212
>someone saved and reposted my screenshot
I sometimes regret playing in windowed mode. I get a lot of screenshots that I really like but knowing that they aren't and could've been in 1920x1080 fucking hurts

Should the facility building path stay just about the same?

>>166095653
I haven't looked through the configs much yet, but right now I'm using Configurable Mission Timer

Are Rangers in LW2 just Ogrewatch machines?

Is there anywhere to get the updated full perk trees for LW2?

>>166096472
You can go into the options and under Interface, there is an option to show the perk tree.

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WE'RE LOSING CIVILIANS

>>166096229
No they're critfantry with two barrels of fun for occasional close encounter

Overwatch builds are a meme

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>>166096582
When did Bradford become so compassionate about civilians to the point that its another meme under his belt? He didn't give that much of a shit in EW.

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>>166096582
LEFT AND RIGHT

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For those wanting to edit timers.

>>166091000
>Moose squad
>Consists of Canadians and Swedes
>Only gunners, technicians and infantry

>>166096757
PTSD

>>166096757

he was never the same after the loss of his green sweater

>>166097297
>Sleeves of that BDU type shirt he wears now are still green
He can't let go

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>>166097297
>>166097417
Reminder that Mutons took all the Sweaters during the raid and integrated them into their armor.

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Was planning on finishing my current mod meme run before hopping on the long dong.
But I loaded my game up today and
>Cannot determine which mods you are suscribed to
>Mod list is completely empty
>Check the workshop
>Still subscribed to 15 pages of mods

What the fucking shit. Are they going to force me to play this shit for cereal?

>>166097540
It's a problem with steam, restart and load it up and it will be fine. You will have to reclick all the the mods you were using though, but it shouldn't have any problems after that.

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>>166097484
What I really want to know is why the fuck he has such enormous, girly eyelashes now.
It's so offputting and distracting.
It makes me want to kiss him, the fairy faggot fuck.

>>166097540
Steam has been doing that lately, specifically the day Long Dong 2 came out so I imagine what happened is the server got a little fucked from people jumping all over it. Just restart and it'll be fine you'll just have to reselect everything.

can somebody please help? i cant click on any of the missions in LW2, i can only do them if i accept as soon as they pop up. wtf is going on

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>>166097619
?
I think you're thinking of the darkness around his eyes, which I've noticed to. I just chalked it up to graphical difference.

Any mods that add more Face/Hair customization options?

>>166097795
Have you even looked at the workshop my mans?

>>166097795
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom2/mods/574/?

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>>166097728
? yourself faglord
You probably wear the same mascara he does

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>>166097619
What eyelashes?

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>>166097837
Now I too want to kiss him

>>166097920
Is this the /xcg/ mascot?

>>166091803
Make Zimbabwe Rhodesia Again!!!

>>166093210
fire him
as no one actually gets fired in xcom since they might defect and leak intel, i suggest you "fire" them

>>166093238
Are the Fire Emblem mods compatible with this shit yet?

Does LW2 include the Long War mods that have already been released for Xcom2?
I really like the class mods and I haven't tried the alien additions yet but I was looking forward to it

>>166098898
yes

>>166098898
yes your question is answered in the description of the mod you dip

What do you guys think of the new Technical class? Is it best to just go LW1 Rocketeer with him?

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Post outfits that make you diamonds

>>166097619
>implying wanting to kiss Bradford is a bad thing

still no lewd Bradford fanart this is the worst kind of suffering

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The devs for LW2 are fucking spaztic.

>Slow down the gameplay and allow for longer, protracted firefights.

I like it, XCOM 2 needed that.

>Oh btw you're on a timer and the maps are all fucking huge so you actually can't have protracted fights

Fuck this, I'm going back to LW1.

>>166099386
just

disable

them

you

mongoloid

>>166099386
>he still plays with timers
>not combining mods to have unique experience with the game
yeah and don't come back

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>>166099386
G U E R I L L A T A C T I C S


Use them.

>>166099472
I literally just did after trying to force myself to have fun with this as-is. I know its just released but given the masterpiece that LW was I expected a little more from the devs. Like not making the core gameplay change completely inapplicable.

>>166099528
P. sure the timer mods don't work with LW2 you fucking drooling retard. Gotta edit the ini.

>>166099827
except they fucking do you mouth breating fuckwit, because I ain't getting any fucking timers

>>166099795
This isn't guerilla warfare you dumb ape nigger. Its playing Metal Gear XCOM for 8 turns as you concealment dash across the map, followed by 1 turn of """"action""""" before evacuating.

Spending 80% of a mission sneaking around because the maps are bigger than an XBox isn't fucking XCOM. Especially when the crux of the new gameplay revolves around making fights take longer. You don't get to engage in the new firefights or take in the new maps. At no point in LW1 did I ever feel this railroaded into playing every mission the exact same way.

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>>166099940

Speaking of Metal Gear

>>166093592
this

>>166099859
Well good for you, you dumb fucking kike.

I really want to have a vanilla LW2 experience but these timers are driving me nuts. I know it's a really stupid thing to be concerned about how "legit" my first run will be but I can't shake the feeling that I'm cheating if I adjust or disable the timers.

Also I don't really get what you're supposed to do with the infiltration. Should I _always_ aim for the 100% no matter how small the squad would be or is something like 70% reasonable? Do you get any penalties from skipping the mission?

>>166099940
>it's a "I just want to mow down hordes of enemies with my squad of superheroes" post
M8 you're up against overwhelming odds when you attack ADVENT. It's only reasonable to be up shit creek if you get caught.

If ADVENT attacks you, there are no timers and you can yell "you shall not pass" all you want.

>>166100101
Infil% is just how many enemies there are, you do you.
Skipping is often the right decision.

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>>166100164
If you didn't eat paint chips the way most people here eat Doritos maybe you'd realize that I am actually saying I WANT to engage in grueling firefights like LW1, not alpha strike everything on the map like vanilla XCOM2.

But you do, so you didn't.

>>166100101
infiltration % modifies the ammount of enemies on the mission, everything below 100% makes the advent presence stronger, everything above - weaker

if you can't get 100% with reasonable squad size then skip

>>166099136
>Miranda's pants
disgusting

Also, non-facial scars never ever :(

>>166100347
I never implied anything about alphastriking. You want a normal war in a game about gorillas and rebels.

I just think the timers make sense.

>>166100290
this but with qt under it all

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anybody else have a captured solider show up in the equipment screen before missions?

>mission expires in 8 days

finally time to unleash hell

>captcha champ bradford

>>166100368
Thanks, that cleared it up for me.

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*desire to flashbang intensifies*

>>166100490
I agree and I never had an issue with them in vanilla. They added urgency.

The problem is LW2 has fucking enormous maps. Even if you remove all ADVENT forces, it still takes 4-5 turns of dashing just to reach them. Thats nearly half most timers spent just moving to the objective.

I don't think its very XCOM of the mod to actively discourage you from, you know, fighting. Whats the point of even having soldiers promote if the ideal mission is one in which you never fire a shot?

>>166100886
I thought Lump or Amineri or someone said the map sizes were the same. Maybe that was just the chunk sizes, or maybe the drop zone and objective are further on the same map size.

You level the soldiers so that when you fuck up and do need to engage, you 1. win, and 2. win quickly.
And for the timerless missions where you need to clear the map. Those do still exist.

It wouldn't be so bad if the timers weren't a retarded design.

Self destructing cargo? Enemy fighters inbound before we've even been alerted?

True Concealment should be a part of the basegame and LW2.

>>166101081
Is True Concealment compatible with Long Dong?

>>166101060
I read somewhere that many of the new maps were the size of the Forge.

>>166100851
>Three different overwatches
I haven't reinstalled yet, so what the fuck is that?

so does LW2 feel like it tries to fix XCOM 2, or enhance it?

>>166101235
Normal, Overwatch All and Overwatch Others.

It's just shortcuts. Not part of LW2.

>>166101235
Overwatch just the soldier, overwatch your whole squad, overwatch everyone but the selected soldier.

>>166101310
I'll tell you what it didn't enhance.

Performance.

Playing this game is excruciating.

>>166101310
Its a different animal entirely. Its alot of fixes but alot of shit wildly different from intent or style of the base game.

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so are u not suppose to go on timer missions when the threat lvl is guarded or higher? im two near-squad wipes in and now i dont even bother if the mission has less then 6 days. whats ur guys strat ATM

>>166101081
Interceptors you can kinda justify. Maybe they have routine patrols.

Cargo on a stopped train being set to detonate well before it could possibly reach its destination though, I have no fucking idea.

>>166101370
>>166101345
That's a nice quality of life addition.

>>166101430
Go to your XCOMEngine.ini in Documents/My Games/XCOM/Config and do this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/200510/discussions/0/846960628563773260
Worked for me on X2.

>>166101523
Sorry thats: Documents\My Games\XCOM2\XComGame\Config
A bit sleepy

>XCOM2 was designed with save scumming in mind

ENB, 2017

>>166101310
I'm a shitter at this game so take this with a grain of salt but I feel like they just wanted to overcomplicate everything and say it's strategical management.

You shouldn't see this as "the definitive XCOM2 experience" but more like a mod tailored to people who wanted a far more complex and long-term campaign. It's definitely not for everyone.

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>>166102112
Yeah thats why my first clear of the game on the same difficulty only had anyone ever die on the last mission.
You'd think with the series hes prolific in the community of he would understand the concept of getting your ass kicked initially then coming back and kicking the game's ass.

>>166102112
Like I care what ENB says nowadays.
He's a soft skinned faggot with terrible opinions.

>>166102270
it's amazing how dense he is and then blames the game for it, making "in depth" analysis' after the tutorial

>>166102270
Forgot to mention it was Ironman, made it sound like Save scumming is how I did it.
1st playthrough was the trial, suicidal run. To test our and the enemies capabilities and learn how different mechanics work.
Then 2nd playthrough I went Veteran/Ironman and went deathless until the last mission where I lost half the squad.
Even if you do lose people thats the fucking game, you don't save-scum because something thats expected to happen happens.

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>>166102112
>Meanwhile LobosJR, another big Souls streamer (and personally the only one I actually enjoy watching, all the others are obnoxious or full of themselves), is thoroughly enjoying his first playthrough and wants to find time to play it more

>>166102112
yesterday's ENB 2-3 hour stream of XCOM 2 is cringe magnificence that not even DSP can compete with

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>>166102534
>Was even playing it the same day
How to expose somebody's narrow thinking 101

>>166102534
lobos is a cool cat

>>166088481


Capnbubs you dum dum

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>>166089026
Kolibri when

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watching all these streamers getting slaughtered is a guilty pleasure

>>166103415
which one won't make me want to punch my screen? just skimmed through enbs and I'm already frothing

>>166103415
I wonder when people will get the memo its a mod made to be difficult for people who are good at the game. So if you're new you're probably not gonna have a fun time.

>>166103565
>>166103415
Unless thats vanilla in which case they really need some breaking in. Not even I wiped on my first mission but I also had played a turn-based game in my life.

>>166103415
I'm in that stream too, did ayys always use to shoot mind controlled soldiers?

One of the guy's soldiers got MC'd, got shot by an Advent, killed another XCOM and then got put out of his misery by another Advent.

>>166103709
its mindspin
its a roll of chance to disorient,panic, or mindcontrol

>>166103902
read his question again

and no, this is new to LW2

>>166103941
oh
been up for a long time
yup, in vanilla a sectoid ran my guy out in the open just so advent trooper could get a ez kill
good times

>>166093606
>waaah waaah i can't kill all the enemies on one turn

get fucked scrub

>>166104171
>Not enjoying fighting things you literally can't see is the same as wanting to alpha strike every pod

Kill yourself you retarded nigger.

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This 8 turn wait for firebrand is going to get annoying

>>166104552
>he doesn't call skyranger as soon as he comes near objective

>the most missed tactical gameplay feature from LW1 was long protracted firefights with plenty of opportunity for large squads to utilise cover, suppression, damage tanking and maneuver flanking
>you're on a timer now though lol, better speedrun that shit with 4 SMG Shinobis

Honestly I feel like a retarded for thinking like this. How long until the smart people reveal their dank strats?

>>166104552

Free XP

>>166104826
xp for kills is minimal, reinforcements farm is kill

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>>166104782
When beagle streams

>>166104285
it's just a fucking psi zombie ya twat, you know the thing that posed about as much threat as a retard with mittens

>>166104862

Mission XP is the main breadwinner? Well fuck. But it suits the design

>>166104892
bagel stream w h e n ?

w
h
e
n

?

>>166104782
Non-ninjas are for when you fail to sneak and for when there are no timers.

>>166104782
I can see that in VIP extractions and Jailbreaks, but normal missions and supply raids and shit require firepower mate

>>166104979
Who the fuck knows man. All I see is him playing DnD.

>>166104782
Pretty much this. LW2 is fucking trash. Sneaking around maps isn't fun.

Back to my LW1 campaign.

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I just landed a 20% shot
AMA

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>>166104782
>rush the obj in stealth
>1 turn left on the timer at the end

I really hate this shit.
It's just not fun, I want to kill ayys, not play MGS.
I only got a kill when a pod turned a corner while I was sitting on the evac point so I naded him.

>>166105130
what's it like to be giant tool?

>>166105158
LW2 is an exercise in tedium.

>>166105158
>"Muh Kills" and "muh kills motherfucker"
>this is what anons will mumble when they can't comprehend magnificent design

Why the fuck didn't Firaxis tie the timers to the distance between start tiles and objective (or average between VIP and evac for those particular missions) tiles, rather than a set number per mission type?

As a dev, it seems like a no brainer. Scalability Firaxis, scalability.

STELF
I like it, feels like pulling heists.

>>166105450
GUYS
THE PLASMA DRILL
GO GET IT

>>166088597
What mod for that outfit?

>>166105561
mgs5 bdu pack

>>166105130
why are you using my gif from a few days ago

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>Start Gatecrasher
>Click out of "Ambush Enemy Troops" window
>3 Rookies are already injured and another is panicked for no reason
>XCOM, baby

Really wish I was recording for this.

>>166105198
feels great desu

>>166105580
It's mine now m8 :^)

Just randomly discovered LW2's release.

What's the consensus?

Does it play well with other mods?

>>166105641
Magnificent.
Graphical and QoL mods mostly work just fine, but that's about it. There's a list of compatible mods in the OP.

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Hmm AWC is interesting.
You get to choose from a random selection of three, not sure if it changes per level because this is my Ranger's options.

Pretty meh.

Is anyone else having problems with being revealed even though the tile wasn't red? It's been happening when I have a clear LOS to all enemies and I don't remember this occurring in vanilla.

>>166105986
it occurs to me all the time in vanilla
ill move into cover 2 or 3 squares away from the nearest patrol and still get found
some soldiers even reveal the squad instantly as soon as they move from their initial dropoff point

Hey guys, does LOS Preview play nice with LW2?

In the compatibility PDF the creator says it was a bit buggy for him but that it might have been just him. Can anyone confirm?

I just rely a lot on it

>>166105641
Metal Gear XCOM.

Your objective is to fight as little as possible.

>>166089607
>Kevlar for vipers mod when?

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I wish bradford would tell me all hostiles are clear like in vanilla, I hate creeping around just to make sure I dont run into more pods. They should add that.

>>166106758
south african necklacing for vipers when?

>>166106753
That sounds kinda cool

I guess it reinforces the idea that you're the underdog dirty rebels fighting a large occupying force

>>166107035
You mean Seth Efriken?

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>get obsolete in the base game while everyone else powercreeps the fuck out
>get ignored in the perk pack because DLC
>LW2 introduces infiltration time bonusses/penalties based on what you bring
>getting good infiltration scores is the most crucial thing in LW2

How fucked are our metal brothers?

>>166107445
ja, boykie

>>166107529
tfw playable aliens mod makes them obsolete in earlygame too

>>166107603
>playable aliens mod
Kill yourself, race traitor.

I never thought i'd live to see the day that i missed a 90+ percent shot. Set up a near perfect ambush, sniper had 95%, attack out of concealment. and it missed. I was too much in shock to even continue.

>>166107656
>not wanting to free the other races from elder control
fuck off, purist

>>166107416
Its really not.

Because you have to sneak across maps as big as the final mission and extract people.

In 13 turns max.

LW2 is dogshit.

>>166107603
>playable aliens mod

ahmed get the bayonet

>>166107665
>Anon gets a lesson in basic statistics and math

That's XCOM, baby!
95% is not 100%

But yeah it can be really jarring when it happens. It's winning a terribad lotto. But it reinforces the central point of XCOM which is risk management

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>>166107692

all fucking ayys must fucking hang.

>>166107603
>playable aliens

Looks like we got ourselves a heretic here boys.

>>166107692
t. Faceless

>>166107804
>beat long war twice on xcom 1
>beat it multiple times on the first two difficulties
>once on the third one
>have yet to finish a play through of xcom 2 since i just picked up the game
>already restarted four times due to surprises from the enemy
I dunno, i'd say over hundred hours into this games and that was my first ever 90+ miss, it was the biggest disappointment i've ever had. Oh well time to restart again.

>>166093267
You can't just stomp around, throwing grenades and shooting cunts without people getting suspicious. If you don't want to alert any other pods, use suppressors.

>People whining about timers again

You don't even have to mgs with 15 mobility dudes. Just don't fucking overwatch camp.

Game design question:

What do you think is the balance rationale in the X-Com reboot (1 and 2) for letting the player use his first action to move, and then his second to shoot - but not the other way around? Why do you think the devs decided that if you want to fire as your first action, that's the only action you can take?

They at least made it in XCOM2 so that you could reload and then do something else in the same turn, but I'm still puzzled by the other thing. Do you think it would just make the game too easy or something? I'd argue you could make it more interesting if the enemies could do it too, then it would be balanced

But anyway, I'd like to hear your thoughts and see if you can persuade me that it's a good decision. It's just a bit jarring coming from the freedom the old X-Com gave you when engaging

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>-10 income

ayylmao

>>166094797
You have to try to predict where the pods are. If you don't want to activate a pod, don't move to a position where you might activate a pod.

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>>166108476
was hit and run in vanilla? I cant remember, but I think wanted more aggressive play then shooting and moving. I get the feeling that if the player could shoot and move 9 times out of 10 the player would retreat aka break LOS. And LW veterans know how wonky the AI gets when they cant see their enemy. Heres a picture

>>166108640
Fuck me, on top of everything else LW2 has you deal with the bald councilman springing the Nigerian Prince scam on you?

How do you even complete a round with no civilian casualties? Do you just rush everyone in and hope they don't die when aliens spot you?

>>166108914
you have faceless amongst you

>>166108885
>was hit and run in vanilla?
nope

close and personal was in EW though

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>>166107656
>>166107758
>>166107845
>>166107881

>>166108885
In the original X-Coms you had Time Units instead of 2 actions, that's what I'm talking about.
You could then do whatever you wanted in your turn as long as you had the time units for it. You could fire and then move or do whatever.

>>166109461
>all that filthy ayy scum stacked up in a single line

there will never be a better flamethrower opportunity

>>166093238
mod name ?

>>166109767
MWR SAS
Capnbuds cosmetic pack
MGSV BDU

>>166110383
Thanks mate

are the dlcs really that bad

>>166110568
Alien Hunters is p good famalam

>>166110621
I thought it was bullshit personally but I'm a shitter so what do I know.

wow wait lw2 is out already ? i'm impressed, usually modders do announcements and then release the shit 2 years later
is it any good ?

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>>166109558
well early 90s games were pretty intense in terms of complicated game rules. Lets not forget that moving in UFO Defense need time and energy units. I guess what im trying to say is that old xcom was complicated because it could be in its time period, and new firaxis knew them youngens dont want to stare and charts and graphs when playing a video game so they dumbed it down. Not that its a bad thing, I mean the 2 point system is kinda genre defying seeing how many "xcom" like games popped up in recent years. Heres another picture

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hey fellow slav- i mean guys
wheres the nearest xcom haven?
i was thinking about raid- uh, riding along with them, yeah

>>166110621
having an alien get a move every time i do something sounds awful, and this alien appearing on timed missions without any compensation sounds awful too

>>166111118
so is it true that if your supply drop is missing some then you got a faceless in a haven?

>>166111163
If you don't like a challenge, don't get it, of course.

>the biggest problems with vanilla were OP grenades and dodges
>LW2 comes out
>every shot is dodge: grazed and if you can't grenade entire pods, you shouldn't even bother fighting
Wow.

>>166111429
>game literally turns misses into grazes if you're lucky
>complain

>>166111429
2 grazes = 1 hit, and you have almost twice as many troops. from the very beginning, and they all effectively have +10 aim.

How the fuck are you even supposed to build a ranger.

>>166111506
>game literally turns your hits on exposed enemies into grazes
>then ayys hit you through cover for full damage
>not complain

>>166111569
Not when tiny maps are filled up with pods of 6 ayys from the start.

>>166111638
>implying your shit luck/skill is a fault in the game
ayy lmao
Grazes are symmetrical, the aliens use the same system.

>>166111593
in vanilla
>blademaster
>shadowstep
>run n gun
>bladestorm
>untouchable
>reaper if you have fusion blade, or rapid fire if you have a well modded shotgun
the stealth perks are worthless in almost every situation

>it's a shitters can't fathom the fact they're too shit for lw2 episode

>>166097540
Get the alternate mod launcher. Never touch the standard launcher again.

>>166111856
This poster is a faceless, don't listen to him.

>>166111856
I used to think this too, but I cannot possibly understate how useful it is to have a permacloaked Ranger run around like a biological battle scanner and scout ahead without pods triggering.

>>166111856
>t. fucking idiot who has probably never even touched Legend Ironman
Blade rangers are fucking garbage.
Also he was probably talking about LW2

>>166111895
I love this episode, its guaranteed chuckles every time. But don't you think the writers are getting a bit predictable?
It's just been "muh timers" and "why am I rewarded for sneaking in extraction missions" and "why am I punished for using imbalanced massive map mods"

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>>166111895
>mfw watching people complain about timers AGAIN

>>166107703
You seem to be in the minority as far as struggling with the timers goes. Stop sending your squads on missions where there are more pods than you can handle and it's never a problem getting to EVAC with turns to spare.

Anyone know when Beags will start streaming LW2?

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When did Bradford become a chuuni?

>>166113239
jams has banned me from the computer until I defeat her donut steal lich queen in this DnD campaign

t.beagle

Option to throw tomahawk @ UFO crash sites when?

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hey guys
should I go to Math 3A this morning or just play long war 2

>>166113672
Go to class anon

>>166113607
BREACHING CHARGES WHEN?

>>166113672
Go to class you fucking idiot
Do you or do you not want to learn and get your degree?

Long War's not going anywhere, your classes and money are

Man there are some crazy mods out there. Was going through the workshop. Deployable turrets. Heal grenades. Human knockout grenades(might be cool with the yell mechanic in lw2). Suppressors with built in stealth mechanics.

What are some cool or strange things people have made that you have seen.

>>166114131
>yell mechanic
nani?

>>166114251
>civillian yells
>pods run in that direction

>>166114315
fucking collaborators

>>166114251
When civies are alerted they start yelling which alerts and brings in near by pods. Normaly the pds get alerted they scamper and do a defensive action. When alerted by yelling, they scamper and do an offensive action.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. I learned this from a vid someone posted before.

>>166114131
The deployable turrets seems op. It is basically bringing another non mobile rookie.

Question about the character pool:

Is there any way to force a character pool dude to become the class I want him to be, always?

Say, a rookie from the pool is drafted into the first mission or first batch of recruits available in the barracks or to hire. I want that rookie to always become a Sharpshooter when he levels up - but as it stands he can become any class at random with the level up. How can I guarantee it?

so long dong 2 doesnt work on pirated copies, but does the alien pack or the ther stuf from 1 work atleast ?

t. poorfag

>>166114717
Commander's Choice cheat is the only way.

>>166114497
I hope LW has added a way to target civilians then. Acceptable losses, they were ADVENT sympathizer scum anyway.

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>hack a ADVENT security pole
>mind control 2 random enemies: 70%
>success
>mind control an ADVENT Drone and the enemy VIP
>ADVENT pod nearby begins executing the VIP they're supposed to protect

>>166095787
That's what I'm wondering too.

>>166115112
But how does that prevent them from alerting the ayyys? Also haven't you heard of hearts and minds? How can you convince or recruit new people if you keep killing them all?

>>166105383
Yeah, set timers in a game with randomly generated maps is a huge paradox.

>>166096825
None of my folders had anything in them, for some reason.

How do I rescue captured soldiers?

>>166115430
Nevermind, forgot I had saved Xcom 2 to my SSD.

Hey everyone, old returning player here.
Do you still need the Stop Wasting My Time what with Zip mode being a thing nowadays + patches?

>>166115492
Later on there will be random missions to rescue vips and I think your captured soldiers will be part of this pool.

>>166115574
Yes

>>166115660
Thanks. I guess it still removes bradfords dialogue and other assorted things.

>>166115574
Zip Mode + Stop Wasting My Time + robojumper's various speed-ups

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=746389497

>>166115383
XCOM recruits from the resistance camps in the outlands, not the cities. Those are firmly under ADVENT's thumb.

Of course I've heard of hearts and minds. Those are what you aim for.