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"i googled dominions 4 meme for the OP pic" edition
Previous Thread >>165738347

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm (embed) (embed) (embed)

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Sy, Maerlande, or Nuklearmonkee
>Jump into MP feet first
>Die and join the ranks of brave skeletons

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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proud of you
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>>165976418
You forgot to fix the last line
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LA Caelum is the worst Caelum not just in terms of power but in disgusting lore. Worthless daeva-worshipping fire-corrupting heretics.
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>>165977646
>not wanting to die and join the ranks of brave skeletons

what are you, gay?
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tips for LA jamon? starting out and dont know what to do.
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>>165977813
t. Airya
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>>165980717
>>165977813
reminder that airyan ameragha is the best nation
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wow CNN skeleton dude those messages were pretty Radical, well done
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>>165983606
and the messages in question for those not playing
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>>165983606
agreed, keep it up they were p gud
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>>165984013
>Order Ermor
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>>165985210
INNOVATIVE
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>>165985210
FULL SCALES
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>>165985210
LEMURIA
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>>165985210
DOG
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>>165985210
Only possible reasoning is Hidden in Sand I'd think.
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>>165985289
>>165985338
>>165985445
>>165985549
Forget I asked.
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hey yomi wasn't the last one this time

good job
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>>165985210
im the dog, i did it because this is literally my first multiplayer game and i have no idea what the fuck im doing at all
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>>165987224
He did his turn ages ago.
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>>165987224
stalking another player's turn submission points is a little creepy. Unless he's last every time, there's no reason to be a little bitch.
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>>165988281
he's last every time and he doesn't double them up
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>>165988281
There can be some good in stalking a player's turn submission on a specific turn. Let's you change your turn last minute to attack them if it looks like they're gonna stale.
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>>165988369
Lets be fair, there were at least 2-3 turns he hasn't been last so far.
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>>165988369
He's not last everytime. He's been last sometimes, and one of the last others.
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2017-01-18 16:37:55 +0100
Typos & stat fixes
Fort repair strength for mindless units was incorrect
Increasing PD could result in negtive gold left
Modding: req_fornation couldn't be used many times
Modding: req_gold didn't work
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>>165988818
>stat fixes
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>>165988818
>>165988874
I fucking hate it when they do that.
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Oh shit now I have to do a double. Knew I should've gone to sleep an hour ago.
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Game: AutisticRPGame
Turn number 14
Next turn due: 17:19 GMT on Thursday January 19th

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
>Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
Marverni 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received

Fucking moralfag monkeys holding up the whole show.
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how do i increase the amount of resources i have? i seem to have way too much gold but far too few resources. do i just patrol more or what?
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>>165990384
You need more production. A handful of units also give additional resources.Also dont build forts too close to each other since they take resources from the surrounding area for themselves.
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>>165990168
literally said he was on a normie trip and wouldn't be back and needed 24 hour extension
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>>165991492
Oh right.
In that case normies reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>165991329
all right, how do i get more production? the resources are per providence per turn, right (i.e. having my entire army in one city will eat up a shitton of resources)? i havent built any forts yet, whats the average distance apart i should build them?

im trying to look in the manual for this shit but unless im completely missing sections im not getting the big picture here.

captcha really likes fucking store fronts
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>>165992352
You got to take production scales on your god to get ore of them. Your army doesnt effect them they only get used when you recruit shit.
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>>165992596
so other than specific units there's no way to increase production other than on god scales? if i move the god / specific units to different areas, does it increase production at that particular providence there or is it a global thing?
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>>165992774
if you had those scales and dominion was low in other provinces, it would convert it to that, but otherwise no

resources are mostly determined by what kind of area you have: mountains are resource rich, wastes are not, and so forth
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>>165992774
Its mostly scales. I think theres a spell that gives more resources but If you didnt take good production there isnt a lot you can do.
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>>165992774
Who are you playing anyway?
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>>165993010
>if you had those scales and dominion was low in other provinces, it would convert it to that, but otherwise no
so scales take the place of low dominion? im not sure what that's trying to say

>>165993254
LA jamon
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>>165993729
no, as in, having dominion over a province will apply the scales your god has to it

having no or low dominion wont have it apply
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>>165993729
The stronger your dominion the better the effect of your scales basically. But if you didnt take good production it probably wont help much anyway.

Apparently the thing to do as jomon is to go UW as fast as you can anyway.
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>>165993998
>>165994020
all right, i can understand that. except what UW is since im a brainless scrub. i've just been having my god sitting in my capital doing research for magic items because im gonna need something to let my troops go underwater if im gonna be able to get to the other landmass. not even sure what level of item creation i need desu
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>>165994375
underwater

jomon gets special units if you recruit from there
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>it takes three casts of Life for Life to kill an Unholy Hand
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>>165994441
oh, well then i guess im good. like i said pretender just chilling in capital for research. equipping all my troops with that shit is probably gonna be expensive as fuck though. and speaking of, arent only commanders able to equip shit?
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>>165994579
correct

there's a couple of spells that can turn any unit into a commander (divine name and gift of reason) but they're not usually worth the effort
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>>165994579
There is shit to let commanders lead troops underwater. Manual of water breathing is the only one I can think of. You really should try to get a fort underwater, most of your best troops are there.
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>>165994708
so how do i go about getting underwater then?
>>165994790
which type of research for that?
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>>165994867
Construction.
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>>165995047
ill look into it tomorrow, its past midnight now and i have an early day. thanks for the tips anon
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ded
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>>165994449
Wow, that little? Guess they weren't such a problem after all.
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>>165992774

Resources do scale with population, so Growth scales you should have taken Growth Scales will slowly increase them up.

Other than that, your options are basically certain fairly specific national mages which you may not have access to (Ulm's Smiths, some of the Atlantean kings, one mage for LA Caelum, LA Agarthan Reanimators), or putting up Riches from Beneath (Earth global, increases resources).
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what anime does domg watch this season
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>>166005537
konosuba and gabriel dropout
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>>166005537
Rakugo, little witch academia, sangatsu no lion
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>>166005537

I watched US Presidential Elections Season 2016 and it was hilarious.

Cant wait for the Donald J. Trump Memedency starting soon!
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>>166005537
Skeleton War, of course.
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>>166005537
Konosuba, Kuzu no Honkai, Little Witch Academia.
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>>166005537

Konosuba and LWA.
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>>166008127
>>166007154
>>166006464
>>166005575
All of you should remove yourselves
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/domg/, lets write a letter for IIIwinter one word at a time. I'll start:


Dear
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>>166009349
>complaining about weebs on a weeb board
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>>166009409
ILLFRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUD
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>>166009453
add
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>>166009524
UW
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>>166009997
elves
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>>166010158
and
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>>166010214
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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>>166010390
t.
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>>166010417
Malakal
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>>166009349
>remove the weebs from /domg/
Now its ded for real
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>>166010442
Also
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>>166011207
buff
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>>166011264
Xibalba
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>>166011284
but
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Is this an acceptable meme?
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>>166011359
DONT
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>>166011479
improve
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>>166011382
>Misf 3
no.

No matter what the nation Turm 3 Fort 3 or both neutral is always the better option than Order 3 Misf 3
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>>166011532
>blood nations
>turm 3
>better
Shit advice.

Though misf 3 is a no-no no matter what. Except when you want quadbless mictlan for blitz memes, I guess.
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>>166011532
b-but muh fortune tellers!
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>>166011510
the
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>>166011572
Lanka tho.
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>>166011601

goddamn
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>>166011601
game
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>>166011572
"or both neutral"
point was Misf 3 is never worth it
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>>166011663

breaking
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>>166011663
FUCK
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>>166009453
>>166009409
>>166009524
>>166009997
>>166010158
>>166010214
>>166010390
>>166010417
>>166010442
>>166010447
>>166011207
>>166011284
>>166011359
>>166011479
>>166011510
>>166011601
>>166011653
>>166011663


Dear ILLFRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUD add UW elves and sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit t. Malakal. Also buff xibalba but DONT improve the goddamn game
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>>166011705
nugget
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>>166011747
5/5 bretty gud
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This is the map I'm going to make next game with.
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>>166012124
I see caves.
Caves mean bats.
Bats mean game will be bad.
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>>166012181
We can always do MA. And play summod. And ban Ermor. Pussy.
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>>166012223
shinuyama will like it
MA Xib also enjoys caves
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>>166005537
Konosuba
Sangatsu no Lion
Drifters
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>>166012223
I have a better idea. Make these provinces look like caves but make them wastes or swamps in fact.
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>>166013059
The fuck do you have against caves? There's like 4 connected caves max, and all except 2 are nostarts.

And it's not my map.
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>>166013101
My stepfather locked me in a cave for two weeks once.
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>>166013181
Was he an olm?
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Tien Chi, the fuck happened to your expansion?
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>>166013221
No he was not but I was raped by an olm while there.
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>2 UW nations
>burds are already claiming UW provinces
Is nothing holy to those winged niggers?
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>>166013260
China must grow larger :^)
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>>166013503
>2 UW nations
>one guy complaining about birds
>three people
That is more than enough to gangbang birds
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Is there any map that's considered to represent what the world actually looked like in lore terms? Specifically for EA. I usually just fiddle and tinker on random maps but having a map with everyone where they should be would be cool.
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>>166014892
Archaeaea is probably the closest.
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>>166014892
you probably have to redo rise of dominions
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Berytos 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
>Hinnom Waiting for 2h file
Helheim 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Lanka 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Oceania 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received
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>>166014892
Dawn of Dominions?

The balance is shit though, and it's missing some nations.
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anime is real
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This isn't Diplo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m56HJDFJyU
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>>166017735
no, that was gibberish.
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>>166017876
just talking shite m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3J8FYKZ52w
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>>166005537
i dont really watch any anime, but i do read manga online basically every day and i have a decent sized collection of it.
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>>166020836
amazing, tell us more
actually please do that, the thread is dying
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>>166005537
I'm watching the wire.
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>>166020968
Nice choice. That's one of my favorite animes too
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>>166020968
Why would you watch a documentary?
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>>166020965
nothing else to tell. three bookshelves of manga and a couple of books on history and theology/folk tales.
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>>166021198
Do you have an album with photos of really long dongs?
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>>166021665
yeah, but i make sure and hide it next to my bad dragon dildo collection. i tend to compare the sizes and organize the dongs based on size, color, thickness, and level of STD infection. its pretty in-depth
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>>166015127
>>166016009
Thanks lads, these both look interesting
>>166015301
I can't seem to find this one, you don't happen to have a link do you? Google's being unhelpful
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page ten

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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>>165987224
Because the turn has been postponed. Kailasa is apparently out of town.
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I apologize greatly, but due to my entire training command, including staff members, had to do a urinalysis without prior warning, and thus shifted our work schedule, I require another 12 hour delay for CanIntoHost
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>>165991492
He forgot to say who he was though. Had to wait to postpone until he was the only one left who hadn't done a turn.
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>>166015127
ArchaEA is just a warped version of the real world. Wish they were more creative.
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>>166024692
he's Kaliasa
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>>166025249
t. xeroque rolmes
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>>166025383
well I knew it was him becauase I took the time to reach out to him on steam like I always do

t. malakal
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>>166012124
I like it

How make
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By the way, cyan ermor is actually a birb.
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>>166026894
Fuck off, meatbag spy.
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What to expect domgen?
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>>166027213
autism
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>>166027213
Some fun in SP, then a lot of anal pain, and then pleasure in MP.
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>>166027405
give me links to learn this game also where do you hang out?
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>>166027449
There's a /v/anheim steam group, then there's this thread, then there's a dom3mods forums, then there's a dom3mods discord, you can google everything.

You can't be good before you play 6 months of SP and your whole life of MP.
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>>166027449

Just so you're aware, >>166027576 is a filthy liar.

Generally you'll wanna practice in SP until you've worked out how the interface works, and until you can take ~15 provinces in the first year with your nation of choice (Pick something you think looks cool, we can tell you what it's deal is), and then you're more or less set to join MP.

You probably won't win much at first, but you should be able to manage.
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>>166028578
But you literally can't be good at this game, only decent.
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>>166028654
Yes, even I, Malakal, am merely decent at this game. Somewhat bad perhaps.
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>>166028654

Well, yeah. That's true. We'll be able to let him know how long it takes to git gud if one of us ever manages it, but that might be a while.
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>>166028872

Malakal only has a notable winrate because he doesn't count his losses.
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>>166028939

Then can you fucks stop ganging up on me?
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>>166029506

No.
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>>166029506
no one is gangbanging you in Teaching because you using your polish connections to convince team vikings to leave you alone
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>>166020965
Feng Shen Ji is pretty sweet.
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>>166029606

Why? I am a bad player.

>>166029889

Jews tried and failed.
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>>166029889

>polish connections

Those're called "pipe fittings"
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>>166025229
I think it fits though since dominions uses warped versions of real world myths.
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I'm sure there's nothing to worry about.
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>>166030585
>>166031174
illumnati please go
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>>166005537

I'm looking through Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Most anime is weeb bullshit, but I'm thoroughly enjoying this autistic space opera.
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Hello, I'm wondering how to use earthquake effectively as a attacking harass tool as MA Agartha. The issue I'm having is managing the fatigue of the spell so the mage can safely retreat as quickly as it can(turn 1/2) while keeping the investment spent in the spell as small as I can.

For a bit of base info, Earthquake is a earth 4 spell costing 3 gems with 300 fatigue cost.

Agartha's cap mage is e3 with 25% e4(I'd like to figure this out for e3 mages though)

I have access to 2 types of earth boosters and I have magic 1/2 scales in the provs I'll be fighting in.

So with all these factors, and with how I understand, for each earth point above the base cost of the spell fatigue is reduced by half from the cost before, so at e5 it'd cost 150 fatigue, and e6 it'd cost 75(?).

So with e3 mages, I see a minimum/cheapest option to use one earth booster with 4 gems(1 bonus gem over base spell cost) with turn 1 summon earthpower into earthquake ->retreat? This would be a base cost of 5 fatigue(reduced from 20 fatigue to 5 fatigue for being e4 for a e2 spell) into 75. Including 7 points of spell cast fatigue on the mage this should work?

As for a way of casting a turn 1 earthquake, I think i need to have a mage boosted to e5 with 4 gems to get the turn 1 cast with retreat on turn 2?
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>>166036570
Sounds right to me.
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>>166028872
>Yes, even I, Malakal
Literally who?
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>>166035058
>Most anime is weeb bullshit
Wenli dies. Fuck you.
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>>166037637
He's right though. Most of anime is literal thrash, and only good titles that are universally acclaimed are like this because they distance themselves from usual anime canons.
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>>166037637

Sure anon, sure. Next you'll claim that Kircheis dies. That'd just be silly.
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>>166037774
Wow, it's nearly as if Sturgeon's law was in full effect.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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>>166037975
Why are you arguing with that then, silly weeb?
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>>166038019
Because it's a redundant statement.
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>>166038019

>I'm so insecure that I feel the need to try to spoil the series and argue over nothing

t.weebs
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>>166038132
If it's redundant then it's true. Arguing with a true statement, even if they're redundant, is a sign of autism.
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>>166038241
>Arguing with a true statement, even if they're redundant, is a sign of autism.
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>>166038241
everything is a sign of autism
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This is Ulm's pretender.
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>>166038912
He, uhh... He cast earthpower, 3 t-strikes, and retreated... Against 1 PD.
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>>166038241

Posting in /domg/, even if ironic shitposting, is a sign of autism.
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>>166038912
A4E4 I can kind of understand if you go scales, you get A end-game + RoS + magic phase move, but what the fuck do you need D2 and N4 for? Diversity?
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>tfw you get a turn 3 anti-skelly arbalest in Skeleton War
It is my destiny. I must become Flesh, destroyer of Bones.
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>>166041593
>become flesh
absolutely heretical
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>>166041593
>undead Pinocchio
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Any new games recruiting?
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>>166043634
not right now but i might try and make a game later tonight even though i never have before and i really have no business doing so
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>>166044102
Sounds good to me, just remember to turn story events and graphs off
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>>166041593
I"m gonna fucking destroy you
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>>166037774
Especially true for recent seasons. We've moved towards the moeblob waifu SoL singularity and we're all poorer for it.
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>>166044464
Only reason it seems to you that we have more "moe anime trash" is because we have more anime period. The ratio of moe stayed the same throughout the years, it's just that today we have nearly 5 times more anime airing in a season than we did 20 years ago.

The fact that you're spending your time on cantonese rhythmical puppet dance forums, where "moe anime" reaction images are a lot more used than serious ones because they're goofier is probably also why it you feel overwhelmed by "moe shit".
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>>166044464
I've always only watched like 3 anime per season. Sometimes up to 5 if it was a particularly good one. And guess how many I'm watching right now? 3.
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So, is there anyone able to sub for Hinnom now in FourthTurning.
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>>166048590
Wtf is with this game.

Is this the third sub?
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>>166049701
It's just a game with a lot of players. In /domg/ that is exactly synonymous with "a lot of stalers". Punk ass bitches who can't just play the game they signed up for, probably due to a crippling moral failing on their part.
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>>166048590
I suck but I can try when I get home tonight

If anyone else wants to before then feel free
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>>166049701
TC has a very legitimate excuse for needing to leave due to urgent medical reasons (blame the dominions illuminati there).
Hinnom's player was new, and actually asked in person for a sub, so hardly too bad there.
Abysia's player was the only one who ever just left without saying anything.

This would indeed be the 3rd sub, yes. Given past games which tended to have 3 AIs/Stalers each, that should be all.
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>>166051225

I don't understand that mindset. I mean, sure, you've been fucked up with no reasonable chance to recover so you don't wanna play anymore? That's fair enough! But at least set yourself AI. It saves everyone else waiting on turns, and it means YOU don't end up with a pile of turns in your email from after your having given up.
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>>166054085
oh no, it isn't those players. If Mictlan staled his last turn or two I'd have understood. If Fomoria/TNN went AI atm, depending on how that war goes down, sure. Same with Berytos/Machaka.

The players who staled out generally have not yet been attacked.
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>>166054085
I'd much rather deal with longer terms and have a staler to eat than have to deal with an AI. Finding a sub is always preferable, though.
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>>166028578
dom3mods discord?
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>>166028578
>15 provinces

try 20-24
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>>166055294
>get 20-24 provinces in early expansion
>get a pile on war before develloping
>just fucking die
better to be the brave pioneer that murders the guy who gets 20-24
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>>166055219
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3010
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>>166055995
What actually happens
>get 20-24 provinces
>most everyone is afraid, some fool tries to diplo and attacks thinking people will help
>no one else does anything and you crush the little moron and get even bigger.
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What the hell, did Ragha go AI?
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>>166053475
I hope TC took an actual bless this time.
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>>166056383
Hey, the last one had a bless. It was E9A4S4. The Dom score 4 for WoT5E was a little crazy though.

Oh, did you mean a good bless?
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>>166056880
Yes, that is what I meant.
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New summod 0.77 game when?
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God damn it, Ragha. Why did you set yourself AI?
That makes two of two bird nations to go AI without warning and for no reason.
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>>166062559
he realized his devotion to the one mokou was weak, if you can't put your life on the line for mokou you deserve nothing
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>>166022168
sorry, meant dawn of dominions.


>>166041593
kek. just remember grey ermor is true neutral and only wants to rattle in peace and harmony
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>>166016009
I'd try Dawn of Dominions again, try to stomp through that tiny map.
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q: why did Ermor and Tien'chi go AI in AutisticRP?

It's a shame to lose the RP form those nations, did the admin force them AI or they did it rudely and didn't tell anyone.
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>>166063997
the latter
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q: does searching for death sites as ermor help with anything or i'm wasting my time?

>>166064143
man that's a bummer
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>>166065451
you could always use more D gems
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What are the versions of Haruspex (inspect a province for sites) for the other kinds of gems?
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>>166065804
Auspex, Augury, Gnome Lore, Dark Knowledge, Voice of Apsu, etc
Noteworthy is Voice of Tiamat which searches fire, water, air, and earth in one go but only underwater.
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>>166048590
>>166051642
im home now, still looking for a sub? if so, how do i do it?
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>>166068025
just post your email in a reply to him
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Royal skeleton would you wish to climb the tower?
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>>166068286
what, here? okay
>>166048590
[email protected]
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>>166068898
sending the dolphin porn now
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>>166068954
thats my fetish
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>>166005537
I'm way behind because I wasn't able to watch anything for like a month. Just finished Flip Flappers and I'm probably going to finish some more things before really getting into the new season.

Gonna watch KonoSuba for sure though.
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>>166027449
>give me links to learn this game
https://boards.4chan.org/vg/domg
>also where do you hang out?
https://boards.4chan.org/vg/domg
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>>166068898
Will be subbing you in soon. You should get the turn resend shortly
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I apologize in advance to anyone triggered by my storytelling.
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I really have nothing to say about this
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>Yomi is the slowest motherfucker
>doesn't RP
>now suddenly he does, and is pretty much the least terrible game
>his writing is about how fucking slow he is
It's like pottery.
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>>166075058
If this is pottery we need to get zelda in here with his master sword.
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>>166063997
TC did it utterly randomly and without warning. Ermor did it after posting that he was "a poor little white boy"
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>>166075058
>>166075209
>yomi taking his lazy oni RP so seriously that we can only dream to achieve his level of oni-ness
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>>166071185
ok stupid noob time

i downloaded the archaea4.map file and put it in the map directory but when i try and start my turn the game has a notice that it "cant find map image: archaea_417.tga.

im sure this is right in front of my face but im gonna need some help here
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>>166075058
>>now suddenly he does, and is pretty much the least terrible game
Despite my hate for him I like Nifl's RP.
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>>166075214
Tíen Chí did it after posting that his start was terrible, which is was.
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>>166075332
What a pussy.
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>>166075214
That was me
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>>166075426
I mean I would have played through if it was me, but on a map where everyone gets a cap-ring of six, he got only three accessible provinces, one of which is a swamp.
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>>166075734
What did you say to him anyway?
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>>166075924
Ironically the AI got decent expansions.
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>>166075214
Fucking AI Ermor killed one of my sight searching dragons.
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>>166075323
no seriously im not able to do my turns right now

what am i missing
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>>166077309
you need the .tga file and a .map file. right now you only have a .map file
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>>166077309
My internet is pretty shit so I cant put up the .tga but try asking one of the people in the fourth turning game.
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>>166077981
>>166078050
ill probably get a shittton of the same thing but ill just send it to all of them via llamaserver
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>>166078050
https://mega.nz/#!1wgEQLoI!DFczPtA55IFvXBz8xi5UZdp0iWYAiMUM75yurko8-ag
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>>166078438
fanks anon

turn sent, have no idea what this nigger was doing or what i should do to build off it but its all worth it for that E X P E R I E N C E
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Why is everyone using awake expander pretenders these days

>meme dog
>meme wolf
>erf snek
>trampling oversized bulls/pigs
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>>166081809
Because awakes are really good in any meta that's bad at focusing/gangbanging the province leader.
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>>166081809
>Why does /domg/ do memes?
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>>166038491
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>>166083152
correct order is bats>spooks>burds>elves.
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>>166076260
>>166076616
Both of them became better after going AI.
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>>166083486
>elves last
They'll be irrelevant by then anyway.
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>>166081998
>Because awakes are really good

Could've stopped there, my dude. There doesn't exist a community in which making yourself weak on purpose and hoping that stronger nations don't choose to kill you is a good strategy.
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>>166084375
There's a difference between "making yourself weak on purpose" and being strong in a less obvious way than province count.
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>>166084375
You're wrong. Just look at the Jews. Thousands of years of wandering around as outcasts and now in the lategame, BAM!! Own nation, nukes and controlling half the assets in the world via money. Being able to create money with the banker units starts snowballing faster than vampire lord.
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>>166085015
Province count IS very important, though, and the early game advantage offered by an awake or double bless is almost never outweighed by the value of just more scales or a rainbow.

If you can win games based off diplo or outplaying while being smaller, you can win games while being bigger more easily.

>>166085140
g o b a c k t o p o l
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>>166084375
it takes roughly ten turns to research mistform

if you pretender casts that, he's practically unkillable by chaff.

how many mages with pretender killing power can you muster by turn 10?

>>166085140
bank jews are not real jews
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>tfw no Eagle King
>yet
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>>166084375
Awake gets you more provinces, but it also makes you obviously strong and gives you borders with a lot of people.

Being smaller reduces your resources, but it also opens more diplomatic options and means less neighbors to worry about.

The point I find to be ideal is slightly larger than average size. You're large enough to not be a tempting target, but there are bigger threats which people will preferentially team up with you against.

Lots of the people who go for a massive expansion are shit anyway, so you can often beat them despite being a bit smaller. Beating a gangbang is much harder.

>>166085257
>how many mages with pretender killing power can you muster by turn 10?
All you need is one to pop mistform. Any source of magical damage will do.

Then your troops can go to town.
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>>166085257
>if you pretender casts that, he's practically unkillable by chaff
I have personally killed a wyrm that cast personal regeneration and mistform on itself with nothing but ichtyids.
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>>166086865
>a wyrm with two new paths
There's a lot goin' on there
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>>165976418
I need a rollback, I just missed the deadline by 30 minutes and was having network issues
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>>166089069
sorry forgot name
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>>166089069
>I just missed the deadline by 30 minutes
Go to your mommy and cry about it, fag.
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>>166039257
I did it for Llama Queens
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>>166089364
>Llama Queens
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>>166086865

Well fair enough. That's pretty impressive.

We're talking about in the game though.
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>>166085172
I don't think I've ever been in a game where "That guy is big, let's gang up on him" doesn't happen. Seems to take even higher priority than removing the birds/undead/bats/elves among /domg/ scrubs.

Being midsize and becoming big in the ensuing chaos when war breaks out is best. I'm getting big early in one of my games and I can't stop. Please help.
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>>166092930
Strange. I aspire to always be the biggest after expansion phase, and in any game where that's been true I inevitably win, usually in what could be described as a stomp.

Maybe other communities just understand how to focus down a snowballer better than domg, where anyone attacking the snowballer gets backstabbed more or less instantly.
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>>166093376
/domg/ just never scouts enough to know who is the biggest.
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>>166093376
Well I haven't played for a year or more now, so maybe different people play now with different priorities.
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What is going on with all the postponements recently? Has admin said anything because I don't think he did?

I remember when TC guy asked for postponement admin chewed him out and now this happens?
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>tfw still alive
Can you answer me this boys? Was I a good player or did you just let me live? I'd really like to know since this was my first MP game ever.
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>>166096623
Rome fell because it was a nation of dumb nerds.
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>>166096623
you've on turn one of your first war all game; not stepping on peoples toes is valid

also there was an active decision to not kill you about the point after I'd just killed Marv because Caelum was sounding pretty riled up about it and I specifically didn't want to fight him until Thugs were a thing and (get this) BEFORE he had Fog Warriors.

Had marv not pissed off oceania and made himself look like a bit of a nonce though I'd have likely killed you for your land in the same time period because you were closer than him
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>>166095839
>TC guy
Nice malenormativity.
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>>166096623
oh and because this is your first war it's impossible to judge if you're a good player or not; you've not struggled to get to this point, just had to worry about growing threats that are pointed at others

I would say just keep playing games man
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>>166096989

I AM SORRY XIR HAVE I INSULTED XOURE SENSIBILITIES?
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>>166097943
I saw it.
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>>166097943
It depends.
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>>166096623
Picking at my quickly disappearing corpse isn't really a good judge of your abilities. But I cannot blame you, I'm definitely the weakest currently, and I cannot fight Niefelheim at all.
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Wah...when the fuck did I get an Eagle King with a fire brand, charcoal shield and boots of stoneskin? I literally don't remember forging this shit
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>>166098719
you're not the weakest mate (assuming you're Caelum)
you've just taken the hardest losses

Fog Warriors is a good spell and should win most battles; but fear effects counter it pretty well if you dont have berserk casters up. If you can get up Berserk effects from a nature mage somewhere you'll probably win (assuming I haven't researched fog warriors myself at this point (I have (or have I?)))

My greatest victory I inflicted 12 kills (or something) before your armies fled while they were winning; then I killed your unprotected casters.

Thing is you shouldnt have been making huge stack armies at the start; as Caelum you should be attacking as many provinces as possible and sieging after you've disrupted the enemy for like... a full year. Going stack to stack in a siege disfavours you heavily even with fog warriors

The 40 Spire Horns/1 Eagle King raiding army is what you should have led with, just like... 5 armies like that attacking everywhere at once. The reason the Harab Seraph/Spire Horn raids didn't work is because we're at the Fog Warriors stage of the game.

>>166099060
you killed my succubus in your capitol with patroling armies. I did not expect it to go 0-1 K/D with that gear.
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>>166097594
Why is it so hard to type "TC player" or "TC person" instead of "TC guy"?
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>>166099151
Yeah, this is my first time playing Caelum. My problem against you was attacking rear, when I should have had everyone guard commander. But at this point I can't beat your thugs without an actual mage supported army, and I can't recruit large armies anymore since I have no income. I also made a mistake in that I recruited Tempest Warriors instead of Spire Horns. They're not worth it. Harabs are also good, but the E1s are worthless, so I probably would have been better off recruiting more Airyas.
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How does Eyeloss work? On either the shield or the 1h mellonballer. Is it an MR check, or is it just houk, eyeball gone?
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>>166099448
You answered your own question, of the 3 options which is the shortest?
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>>166099556
MR for shield, no check for 1h (I think)

>>166099470
you should have gems sitting around right? summon some things if you have conj research for it.
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>>166099732
>you must have gems sitting around right
HA
HAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHA
you're cute, I got fucked with site distribution
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What ritual scans provinces for 9W?
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>>166099863
voice of ass poo
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>>166099863

Voice of Apsu, or Voice of Tiamat underwater, the latter of which also does Fire, Air and Earth.
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>>166099780
I got terrible luck in the path I needed most (Nature) but I just kept searching every province with every path available to me.

Dont forget level 2 searching for the paths you need is important; and level 3 searching for Astral is worthwhile
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>>166100013
>>166099954
Thanks.
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>>166100162
bruh i had a rainbow mage that searched every province I had. F2, W3, E3, S4, D4, N2. And A4 from my Kings. I think my highest gem income per turn was 21, 7 of which was Water which my deep access to didn't really help with as by the time I could summon Sea Troll Kings they were useless to me, and Ice Elementals are bad against giants.
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>"Oh shit new turn"
>it's just a resend
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>>166101972
What game and nation? Asking for a friend.
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>>166102285
You know exactly what game and what nation.
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>>166102445
I don't but if you share this information I totally won't join spamming turn resends to you. I promise.
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>>166102541
Just pick birds in any game.
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>>166102580
Are you ulm?
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>>166102612
Yno.
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>>166096947
Gauls die and I don't.
Sounds fine to me
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>>166102643
Are you white ermor?
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>>166098719
Sorry Cae, has to be done.
>>166100162
Why the fuck doesnt my mage dude follow my script? May it be because it's facing weak enemies? I've read it might be so but it's not like I can determine that
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>>166102930
Your mage won't use gems if he considers the enemy too weak, yes. Factors influencing the decision is overall HP, items and gems on both sides. This is so you can't just send a scout against 30 enemy mages and expect them all to blow their fuse for nothing.

If you're facing PD/indies just script for spells that don't require gems, or send just a couple of them without armies to add to total HP on your side.
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>>166098719
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>>166095839
I chewed him out politely, don't forgot you's adminning here

t. Lukas
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>>166104337
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>>166104337
I haven't won yet
And Thrones = Victory
Oceania is probably gonna have 6/8 Thrones soon and apart from 1 Tarrasque I have no idea what they're fielding really.
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>>166104494
I found it funny you got the water spamming chime in the arena though
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>>166095839
You have been Lukas'd.
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>>166104674
yeah if someone else had picked this up it'd deal a lot of damage to a good portion of my armies
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>join game with arena mod just for arena's sake
>50+ turns later more than half of players dropped and arena still hasn't happened

motherfucker
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>>166104860
turn 45 was first arena battle in DSDS
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>>166104981
Good for you, we're turn 50 and still waiting.
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>>166104860
>arena mod game
>arena happens at turn 2
>no one sends anything
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>>166105303
>arena mod game
>awake god prepared for arena
>turn 20 and still no arenas
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this has always been my favorite event
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>>166107134
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>>166107134
>>166107917
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can anyone give me hints about playing on latus?
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>>166109710
spawn on the blood planes
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>>166109710
Don't.
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>>166109710
Someone should stitch latus and oeridia together.
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whoops forgot that even if the wyrm has max HP he won't regen till he gets below his maxmium value dictated by the dominion
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>Yomi did a double turn
horee shit
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Does anyone want to do a Magic Enhanced game now that the new version is out and summod compatible?
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>>166113101
Fuck that unbalanced mess.
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>>166113101
Whatever happened to that guy that was considering another RP game? I'd join even if it had ME.
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>>166113143
>Fuck that unbalanced mess.
We won't know what is actually unbalanced until we actually try a game
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>>166113241
I was in 2 ME games, and they fuck shit up badly.

Never forget Latus3.
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>>166113496
The problem with Latus 3 was not caused by ME.
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>>166113496
How'd it fuck shit up badly
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>>166113589
Oh really? So players were leaving TOTALLY not because of that wailing winds global, eh?
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>>166113670
Meme maps horribly warp globals
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>>166113496
Latus is fucked regardless. If you use that map as a basis for any balance, vanilla dominions alone is unplayable garbage.
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I just killed my pretender with soul vortex.
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>>166036570
For k paths above required path-level it reduces fatigue by 1/k, not 1/2^k like you're expecting.
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>>166114284
correction 1/(k+1)
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Mictlan are you here?
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>>166017262
Having mastered his own mortality, there is nothing left to acquire but godhood.
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good idea or bad idea:

empowering a pegasi lord to air 2
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>>166113670
That was a large part of a lot of players leaving, but not really all that important in the broad scale. The issues were the incredibly high throne count needed to win and the fact that nobody even tried to attack Lemuria aside from Abysia's less-than-halfhearted attempts.
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>>166115132
*fun* but absolutely terrible idea.
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>>166115306
seems like a 2 bless pegasi would make a good thug with a basic kit and mistform, if you have the gems to spare.
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>>166118273
Yeah but that's an expensive fucking thug. Why is /domg/ so obsessed with thugs? This isn't Dom 3 anymore.
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>>166118387
I am just a newb with an idea in mind.

I want to spare my mystic so I can research the more rapist spells faster, so having one or two PD / thug killers on roll seems like a good idea.
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>>166118563
More practical to use wind rider raiders accompanied by a priest or oreiad with winged boots.
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>>166118563
the idea being: If i'm fighting other thugs I can just script him to retreat by flying on turn 5 if i know they can't entangle him. Giving 3 turns (minues one to prepare mistform) and roughly 30 magical *brand damage.

That is often enough to kill any thug and bypass ethereal, invunerable and mistform, and not even counting the possibility of an actual sword hit.

Being calvary and having mistform also makes him unkillable from PD or chaff unless they happen to have elephants.

Furthermore, if the thug is an offensive caster, flying on turn 2 is probably enough to stop most of his offensive spells unless he dies explosively.

All in all, it seems like a very good situational thug if you don't have access to high tier summons.
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>>166118886
30 gems thug :)))
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>>166118886
this is assuming a basic as fuck kit, brand, vine shield, girdle.

it's even funnier if you give him sacred shroud or the ethereal armor

>>166118825
wind riders stand 0 chance against thugs even with defense / prot blesses. I don't know what an Oreiad can do in melee beyond getting 1hitted before scoring those meelee hit spells
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>>166119069
mo like 90
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>>166119069
>30
80 gems. 80 gems I can't seem to use for anything at all.
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>>166118886
>All in all, it seems like a very good situational thug if you don't have access to high tier summons.
You're Arco. You should have access to high tier summons. You're one of the best research nations in the game, have great diversity, and can build a pretender to go deep into basically any path but blood and death.
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>>166119084
The counter for thugs is not other thugs.

>I don't know what an Oreiad can do in melee beyond getting 1hitted before scoring those meelee hit spells
Oreiads are for throwing lightning behind a small screen.

>>166119194
>80 gems
>I can't use
>80 gem THUG
You're not looking hard enough. And for 80 gems you should be getting a fucking SC, not a thug.
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>>166119194
>>166119181
I assumed they are A1 to begin with.
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Can you send multiple .2h files in one email to llamaserver?
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>>166119369
You assumed wrong.
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>>166119715
Try it and see what happens, punk.
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>>166119794
You don't expect people to randomly empower some garbage commander from zero to make a "thug". If you love thugs so much just play machaka, literally all of their chaff are thugs.
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Are there any sites that cause insanity?
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>>166121218
Yes
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>>166121437

Know what the tag is for that so I can look 'em up in the inspector?
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>>166121502
Afraid not.
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>>166121218
4chan
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>>166121437

You sure? Some looking through the modding manual shows me tags for curses, horror marks, and disease, but no insanity spreaders. Although I guess void summon sites do that when you use them.

One of my commanders has picked up some crazy from somewhere though, and I'm pretty sure he's not been anywhere near R'lyeh dominion. I don't even have a border on R'lyeh. I'd been assuming there was an as yet unfound site somewhere that did that.
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>>166122114
There is no tag, so it must be site causing events without message.
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>>166120290
underrated post
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>>166124325
Not really.
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>>166124421
actually yes
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>>166124626
I'm a professional post rater, and I don't rate it very highly. What is your qualification, pleb?
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>>166124785
Dare you question my skills?
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>>166124929
Psshh.... Kiddo....
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>>166124929
>>166125025
Get a room, third world fags.
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>>166120290
>Jimmy wants to be a thug, but his pretender won't let him.
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>>166120290
My friend empowered a marble oracle to E1A1 to cast RoS
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>>166125678
Nice SP tactics you go there.

Not like you already had E4 mages to empower or anything.
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>>166125678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IdE2hffjis
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You know ermor you could have just asked to have the fort and I would have let it happen
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>>166125858
My testing S99 master lich enslaved all doom horrors by casting master enslave once in all assassination battles. He could've one-shoted them with his str 800 punch too though.
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>>166125858
I feel like this video would have been a lot better if he had the colored tiles for zone of control turned on when the spell was cast.
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>>166119227
I'd take roughly 10 turns before hitting any summon commander that is actually worth it (actually I think it's not even an air gem cost commander).

I'm diversifying my spell repertoire right now. Like you said, the bonus of diversity is that I can have a card for every situation.

also
>air bless

>>166119358
>nd for 80 gems you should be getting a fucking SC, not a thug.

80 air gems? not really mate, otherwise I would have already used them all like I did with every other gem type.

Furthermore, in fact, by the time it takes me to research the SC air summons i'd probably have three times as many air gems. leaving me with the same deal: I have an excess of air that I have to use.

>>166119358
>The counter for thugs is not other thugs.

Perhaps thug is a misnomer at this time. The basic requirement for thugdom is killing PD and that is easily achievable through a billion means. I'm trying to go a little more specific - something that can go toe to toe with one of them and survive.

remember arco doesn't have the advantage of spell swords like other nations do. You either send squishy casters or magic less chaff. I'm trying to see if I can create a replacement for them.

It's taken for granted that I will be totting elemental royalty by lategame, but I have a problem to solve meanwhile.

>Oreiads are for throwing lightning behind a small screen.

seems easily counterable by a turn 1 spell or flying units. Or any offensive level 5 magic really.
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>>166126313
Your air gems should have been used for summoning elementals and casting thunderstrike.

>TS
>easily counterable
Yeah maybe if you leave it till year 3 to start
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>>166127019
>Your air gems should have been used for summoning elementals and casting thunderstrike.
Also flying shose. This item is very underrated.
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So, there's a bug with summod regarding the Affliction Clear in my capital. Sum1's said he's gonna get a fix out over the weekend, if the admin would be so kind as to update it when it drops.
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>>166127836
you see bug I see divine Jusitice
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>>166127019
>casting thurnderstrike

mate this is arco, you have no native ts access that isn't guaranteed to be a3 already

>used for summoning elementals

I concede on this. though I think i can easily prescind of them. Not to mention that if I had sum 5 I could cast way more than air elemntals. The same problem stays.
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>getting to a real Axis/Allies stage of the game
>Mictlan casts a popkill global
k
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>>166128476

Noone casts Blood Vortex for the popkill.
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>>166128537
yeah but people dispel it for it
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>>166128476
>>166128605
>>166128537
it doesn't pop kill the whole map, just a portion of it. I couldn't care less as long as it doesn't effect me.
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>>166128476
attack my cap bitch, I dare you
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>>166128605
Popkill part is unnoticeable. Gemgen part is huge.
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>>166128819
k
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>>166128313
>mate this is arco, you have no native ts access that isn't guaranteed to be a3 already
That's what air gems are for.
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>>166127836
I will but I have no idea how to do that with a game in progress.
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>>166128605
Lol, no one dispels Blood Vortex. Its a blood global, which makes it retardedly hard to dispel. No one's gonna throw 300-400 pearls at least on any blood global that isn't AC.
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>>166128313
Mage engineers are A1, and 1 in 5 are A2. Besides, Oreieds are better thugs because they have Awe and mistform makes them good PD raiders with a vine shield and a brand. They can also barkskin, enlarge+personal regen if you feel like they're too squishy
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>>166129356

At that point you've an easier time wishing for the death of their pretender. Assuming they've taken B9 and use it for that, of course. Summonable blood dudes can potentially cast it as well.
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>>166129468
Not to mention just using gems for the Oreiads so they fatigue out less quickly.
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>>166129563
or just using them to turn 1 Fog Warriors, if you really want to empower something
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>>166129563
>>166129642
Hell you could even just cast call of the winds a shitload of times. It might get enough provinces to beat the wind lord "thug". Or cast hurricane a bunch and make the enemy province worthless.
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>that one guy empowering regular commanders for thugging
The absolute madman.
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>>166130102
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>>166130220

A commander that CRIES OUT for a Charm Animal.
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>>166130220
I hope you put him on research duty.
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>>166129468
yeah but i'm looking for something more specific than thugs. Though i'm taking note of that.

Still seems like the only way I can take counter thugs without wasting wizards or waiting for late game.
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>>166130415

You're fucking Arco. You counter thugs with Mind Hunt.
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>>166130415
An Oreied spamming air elementals will kill most any thug that isn't a Niefel Jarl or Skratti.
>>166130473
and this desu
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
>Kailasa Waiting for 2h file
Marverni 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
>Vanheim Waiting for 2h file
Yomi 2h file received

You can do it guys. 2 turns in one day. I believe in you.
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>>166130909
Vanheim is clearly busy writing another novel that nobody will read.
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>>166130909
Internet is derping at the moment, can barely load my mail.

>>166131189
I'm writing two.
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>>166131189
I liked his RP. That was hardly a novel.
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I need an extension for turn 13 until sunday night because real life sucks
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>>166131943
>>166131795
I like vanheim's RP, but Yomi's RP is the best
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Does Yomi actually have RP or is this a joke about delayed turns
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>>166132214
I'm taking 133 this turn if you don't mind.

t. friendly neighbor
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>>166132214
for me its okey
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Anybody has a clue why I'm getting that error message when trying to submit a turn?
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HEY MARVERNI, I HEARD YOUR MOTHER WAS A HUMMIE AND YOUR GODS PREFERED PRONOUNS WERE "HIM/HE"

YOUR BOARS MILK FROM CAT TITS AND YOUR CATTLE ARE THINNER THEN GOATS
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>>166133083
Yes.
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>>166133083
>YOUR CATTLE ARE THINNER THAN GOATS
YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU BASTARD
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>>166132923
5th resends later it works, nevermind.
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>>166133083
>YOUR CATTLE ARE THINNER THAN GOATS
Jesus christ where are the mods when you need them?
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>>166133083
Looks like you don't need magic to cast Fires from Afar!
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>another arena
this is getting annoying I don't have any worthy contestants to send
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>>166138305
On the bright side, at least all you're missing is the Champion's stuff.
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>>166128476
>tfw out being a normie and I cant do my turn
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>>166139198
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS ASK FOR THE FORT ERMOR
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>>166139281
>7 sirens
Shit I guess I didnt die. Is ok I'll give you a bunch of gems and shit. Peace brah
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>>166139441
just literally tell me "you want that fort" and you can have it is what I"m trying to tell you, I would love to have one less ulm fort on lockdown
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>>166138305
I think last one was all AIs.
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>>166139709
>>166139441
also if you do plan on moving on it let me know so I can amend my turn first
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>>166139709
Lyl
Is ok, less money to give my soldiers. Well. Could I please have that fort?
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>>166126313
Holy shit are you autistic

Empowering a pegasi lord to A2 to make a thug is not a reasonable tactic. It's not even one of those oddball innovations that can often let you get the upper hand despite being technically inefficient.

It's straight up wasteful insanity
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>>166139960
revised turn received. All yours friend
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>>166140275
Thank you brah. Peace
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>>166140251
sure, ok, I have nothing else to use the gems on.
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>>166132372
They do have some roleplay.

"How dare you betray us like this! We shall ask our pretender what they think of this copious bloodshed!"

"So as it turns out, he absolutely _loves_ betrayal and bloodshed, so we're cool."
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>>166141256
JAPANESE WORSHIP A GIANT SNAKE, FITTING FOR A BUNCH OF LAZY SNAKES IN THE GRASS

BY THE WAY ATLANTIS, WORSHIPING A DEAD GHOST KING? REALLY? YOU DON'T STAND A GHOST OF A CHANCE

YOUR NATION IS SO WHIPPED YOUR MEN WOULD RATHER STARE AT CRYSTALS TO DEATH OR PRETEND TO BE STATUES THEN SERVE YOUR "QUEENS"
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>>166141756
Dude, get off hexachan before I bloody you with my bloodcock.
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>>166141756

Nice try, but you're not gonna beat the skinny cows line, dude.
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>>166142018
it was my magnum opus, no topping it
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>>166140603
I would advice researching then. Quills might help with that.
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>>166142607
for what? air globals?
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>>166143145
LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE THAT ISN'T SPENDING EIGHTY (80) AIR GEMS ON ONE (1) THUG

You'd be better off just burning them into 40 pearls, for fucks sake, and that would also be silly.
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>>166143145
Well, since you don't need more research/quills, I'll just assume you have all spells already.

In which cast, move out mystic swarms en-masse, typically scripted to cascade spam (which no sane thug/SC will dare walk into).

You should also be casting Fog warriors and other battlefield air spells by using master matrixed Orieads. Orieads can also nab provinces and kill non-stealthy thugs by cloud trapezing in and summoning air eles.

You may also at some point wish to empower an A3 oriead to A4 . . . while this is expensive, it does open up valuable air boosters which would allow orieads to cast shit without communions.

The go-to air summon I've seen late though is great eagles, to snap forts in half.
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Oi, I've noticed that the biggest problem newbs have is that they get overwhelmed by choice. There's so many weapons, and sometimes to so many of them do the same thing that it becomes rather hard to know what to do without defaulting to "let's just craft whatever has the highest damage value"

I've been thinking if it's possible to make a strategy guide for the game explaining what each weapon / spell can do and categorizing them

This way someone easily acquires a general idea of what each things does and knows how to answer to problems that rise in the game

Like: Grouping items within "area of effect", "mundane", "magic attack", "situational magic", "start of battle magic", "summons", "mundane stat change" etc cadres that give the player a general idea of what they are worth for, so when the need for them arises he doesn't need to right click every weapon to see what it does and then filters the ones that aren't useful at the moment.

We could do that for spells too.

Can't do it alone tho' as i'll probably miss a lot of side effects I won't notice, specially with spells. if there's interest in it, I could get a guide going
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>>166144239
update the wiki, it still exists
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>>166126313
you are incredibly dumb
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Building_thugs_and_SCs
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>>166144239
i would read the shit out of this

in another news,
!! TO ADMINS OF SKELETON WAR AND FOURTH TURNING !!

i need to go home tomorrow for some medical related shit and ill be gone until sometime sunday morning, if i have to skip a turn thats completely fine, i dont want to hold the games up just for myself
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>>166128313
>prescind
What language are you machine translating your posts from?
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>>166144827
He's intensely autistic, he might actually type like that
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>>166144489

No Iron Face in the helmets section is a serious oversight.
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What ever happened to that player dating service? I mean, ranking service?
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>>166144783
Who is you?
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>>166143945
this conversation got lost pretty hard

let's backtrack: I dropped an idea of thugging out a sacred flyer from arco because I saw some extra advantages to the unit itself

Point is: This is mid game and will be for anywhere between 10 and 20 turns. I don't want to wait for late game to get a thug. I understand it's a waste of gems, it's also gems i'll rarely use as I can shit enough mages to make communion casting effortless, no need to use them as combat aid unless it's an emergency and I absolutely need to repeat cast high level spells or push an advance. Summons are out of the question. Oeriads too unless I don't lose a single matrix caster for like 10 turns which is already a lot of time to wait for what I want.

Is it inefficient use of gems? yeah, sure.don't have any other efficient use for them atm.
Does it work? Apparently. nobody here has tried to refute it.
is there a better alternative? People keep calling me autistic because I can't use the options they taught me.

>>166144827
you don't know your own language?
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>>166144239
Am top newbs but usually before going into battle with something I search the spell or the item. Like the deepest I've got is using a helmet to give Ironskin to a mage I didnt want to die and then I've countered the shock magic resistence malus with another item while giving shroud of the batte saint to the guy because I know my bless gives reinvigoration and it helps with exhaustion. Is not much but it's something, r-right?
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>>166141756
>Atlantis
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Hey, is the new Hinnom player around anywhere? I would like to talk to you on Steam if you are available.
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>>166146949

It's eighty gems for a mediocre flier who can't bless himself.

Draconians are a legitimately superior use of those gems. Those at least can turn into siege stack factories.
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>>166147042
you've found out how to counter a possible situation.

problem is, there's several hundreds possible situations.
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>>166146949
>Point is: This is mid game and will be for anywhere between 10 and 20 turns. I don't want to wait for late game to get a thug
You can use Oreiads now. Arco can also get summon sleeper for a vanilla thug that will do this better pretty quick and just give him winged boots. Though Arco is not for thugging in general.

> I understand it's a waste of gems, it's also gems i'll rarely use as I can shit enough mages to make communion casting effortless,
Use more gems, need less communion slaves and get more casts. You act like using gems for anything but boosting or equipment is a waste. The saved fatigue for mages is huge.

>Is it inefficient use of gems? yeah, sure
It is MONSTROUSLY inefficient. Your 80 gem thug will likely die in two or three turns.

>sure.don't have any other efficient use for them atm.
Several have been pointed out to you, as well as some other inefficient things that are still less terrible than this idea. But you keep doubling down.

If you just want an A2 Wind Lord thug because you think it's cool and don't care about the cost, just be honest about it.
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How effective would Curse of Stones be against a certain blind winged EA race?
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>>166147042

That right there? That's good! Well done!

The trick from there becomes improving your efficiency. Take your lightning resist. Are you fighting someone with ubiquitous Air? If not, then maybe those gems could have been better spent on, I dunno, Spring Hawks or something, which would give you an edge in another battle.
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>>166146348
cyan skeleton for skele wars and i subbed for hinnom
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>>166146949
Just put flying boots on a sleeper with a brand and vine shield.

It's hilariously inefficient, but still better. If you wanted a nation with thugs, perhaps you shouldn't have played Arco.

Either that, or just find a way to break into D7. Your statement on not needing quills shows you already capped your research, so once you get to D7 that should give you Tarts.
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>>166147847

MR Negates Easy.

It can be made to work, but you're gonna need to either spam the shit out of it, gear your casters with pen boosters, or, for actual effectiveness, both.
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>>166148158
Uhm.. What does "Negates easily" does? Xib warriors have 11 MR, would they be affected by CoS?
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>>166148328

MR Negates Easy is a check against 6. MR Negates is 10. Negates Hard is 14.

As I said, you're gonna want Pen boosters if you expect to make use of it.
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>>166148328
They basically get +4 MR. So using the manual to look up drn probabilities for -5 (10 versus 15 MR) gives you a 14% of Curse of Stones affecting any particular MR11 unit.
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>>166147297
I did say summons are out of my reach

>>166147469
>If you just want an A2 Wind Lord thug because you think it's cool and don't care about the cost, just be honest about it.

more like "I want a side army that can potentially hold it's own against any leftovers / sneakers as my fragile troops advance against a new enemy"

Breaking off my thugworthy casters weakens my main force considerably AND on top of that are one well placed spell from being a waste. I have spare wind riders I can thug to pursue any sneaky thug or stop one that would otherwise require my army's advance to stop and therefore give time for the enemy to overwhelm my numbers

Oreiads are cap only recruits. Logistics are at play here. Wind riders are already on the front.

I didn't say any strategy was bad or worse than mine. Just that I can't afford them at the moment.

>>166148057
Sleeper requires conjuration, of which i have 0

I never stated i didn't need quills. You should know this by the fact I said it's early mid game, virtually impossible to cap research at this stage unless by some minmax strategy i'm unaware of

All this talk about efficient use of gems makes me wonder how many nations lose and win with excess gems just because subpar strategies would be a waste.
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>>166146949
Just convert the gems to pearls you autistic fuck
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>>166147142
Atlantis is in the RP game
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>>166146949
Yea dude I wasn't going to say anything but you keep doubling down. It is a positively atrocious idea. At the very least keep it at A1 and just give it some gems so if it dies you didn't waste another 30 gems. I doubt it'll live through 30 battles.

But like they said it's a really really wasteful idea. If you want Vanjarls then play fucking Vanheim. If you need thugs that bad you'll get about the same result just by throwing a shroud on the windlord depending on your bless. And at very least you might even be able to do something cool with a big stack of gems later on if you make it out of mid game. Get an air Queen, cast perpetual storm against Burds, etc.

Just reiterate it's a terrible terrible idea.
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>>166148643

If you have Conj0 you cannot reasonably claim to be in midgame.
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>>166148595
>>166148547
Thanks guys, one last question. What are some good pen boost items or spells? Spell focus only gives +1
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>>166148643
>more like "I want a side army that can potentially hold it's own against any leftovers / sneakers as my fragile troops advance against a new enemy"
What you're proposing is not that. It will die rapidly to anything that's not light to medium amounts of PD.

>Breaking off my thugworthy casters weakens my main force considerably AND on top of that are one well placed spell from being a waste.
Same for your Pederast Lord. Only you'll be down much more gems with him.

>Oreiads are cap only recruits. Logistics are at play here. Wind riders are already on the front.
Use the air for literally anything else. ANYTHING.
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>>166148654
yes you are a genious I will create an army of thugs made entirely from pearls

>>166148793
Perhaps I made a mistake? It's not like you need a lot of turns to get basic conj going.

But it's midgame and anyone who wanted to has access to conj 5 by now.

>>166148693
Ultimately, do I have any other choice? it's losing 80 gems and a shitty sacred commander compared to losing my entire offensive.
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>>166148660
So Atlantis AND Therodos took a ghost king?
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>>166149126
pretty sure therodos went the God-king
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>>166149028
>Ultimately, do I have any other choice?
Give the gems to your casters so they can cast more shit. You probably have better options than that even but I can't see your research. If you absolutely must spend 80 gems on empowering though I'd do it on something that already has air to deepen your access.
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>>166148840

Rune Breaker and Eye Of The Void are the other two. Gets you +5 all told, which is enough make it stick fairly reliably.

Still gonna need two or three casters to make sure you get all of them though.
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>trying to break out
Why Caelum?
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>>166147847
Very ineffective.

Fliers only 'move' one square when flying to your units, so the movement speed decrease and fatigue from moving don't do anything unless you have storm up.

Xibalba's troops are also really shit and die fast in combat, so the fatigue per attack won't be very useful either.

It might be useful to to tire out Ozelotl (if you have lots of chaff), but Ozelotl have very good MR (16).

>>166148595
>gives you a 14% of Curse of Stones affecting any particular MR11 unit
You win ties on MR checks (unlike every other fucking check in the game, for some reason), so it'd be 18% instead.

>>166148840
Rune Smasher (+2 pen, W2F2), and void eye (+2 pen, S1, takes up an eye)

You can also spam it - any E2 mage with 3 earth gems can summon earthpower then drop curse of stones. 5 casts will spread the curse to ~65% of his army, even without pen boosters.
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>>166149028

Taking an Oreiad to A4 gets you both A boosters. Probably a better investment in the long run. You should probably be able to hit Air Elementals in the time it'd take to empower twice in any case, and an air elemental will be more reliable in combat than your 80+ gem investment into the Wind Lord.
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Get in here
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/1/143388132201642949/
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>>166149721
i would join but like i said earlier i wont have computer access from tomorrow morning to sunday morning. how long until you're planning to start?
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>>166149546
So there are better ways to beat a xib warrior spam if my research is enough to have alteration 5 and other 5s and 4s? (evo, conj etc) I'm EA ermor and in a newbgame so I'm kinda lost here against fuckhueg bat hordes. Thanks god they don't have flying jaguars yet
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Stop trying to talk him out of his Pederast Lord thug. I want to see him do it and then bitch in the thread when it gets killed by chaff
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>>166149852
Until we get at least 10
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>>166149873
Assuming xib isn't bringing mage support, your standard troops should easily beat equal gold of xib warriors.

Just make sure your troops are clumped together so he can't surround them, and leave your mages+commanders in the center. Have some troops on guard commander as well.

For mage support, you can also use falling fires to eat chunks out of his troops each cast (elders should be able to cast it on their own, augurs will need to communion if you want them casting it). Body ethereal using the cheap S1 guys will make your troops much better at fighting him (remember to spread the S1 guys out a lot - body ethereal is touch range only).

If he's not using mage support (ozelotl, skellyspam, shadow blast, etc) and you're not heavily outnumbered direct fights should be pretty easy.
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>>166150686
Uhm.. Thanks anon.
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Sum1, the Jomon Samurai Cavalry have a sprite error
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Remember kids: don't forget to make sure your prophet isn't sneaking before a major battle
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>>166149721
Oh nice, I was actually planning on hosting pretty much this exact game.

Now I just need to figure out what I actually want to play. How does Summod Pythium work?
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I'll need an 24 hr. extension for VanillaNewbs and VanillaSecks. I was making a several hour trip and i don't think i'll make it to send a turn for today.
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>>166150139
We'll see then
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>>166151674
>order move order
>all mages move two tiles
>main troops and general move only one
>send turn
:^)))))
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>>166154364
I see I wasn't the only one who made a silly mistake
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>>166153719
You got it.
Hope your trip was good.
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>>166149278
I don't think we see the game on the same terms.

from where I see it a well placed counter mops the floor against good casters
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You fags better send someone to the arena tonight
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>>166155774
Unless you want some hot scout-on-god action, you tell Ur to lay off with their whole "conquer me" schtick and then we'll talk.
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>>166155927
w-what
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>>166155992
I ain't sending shit when these barbarous giant motherfuckers keep acting like they own me. I'm devoting the tiny, tiny amount of income I have towards fighting them off.
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I'm trying to get an idea of this game. I've been playing it for about two days now.

Everything you do seems to be built for the sake of staging a battle that hasn't become yet. Is this game supposed to be more like Total War + superweapons or a map coloring simulator like Europa?
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I gotta say the vanir lands have been almost reunited and the place already feels comfy af. If it weren't a fact that someone will eventually steamroll me for the thrones I would convince the holy snek to just chill in the lake with the vans

I love how I could carve some lore out of my starting place
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>>166156257
Neither, it's more like a tabletop wargame
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>>166155648
Your pegasus shitlord isn't a counter for anything
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Is there anything in Dominions more powerful than an Arcoscephalian Wind Lord?
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>>166157212
Diplomancy
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>>166157521
Why should the Wnd Lord keep any treaty?
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>>166155648
A well placed counter beats everything.

If your enemy counters a small party of mages and troops you lose maybe a thousand gold at most.

On the other hand, if your enemy counters your stupid fucking thug idea you lose 80 gems.
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>>166156257
Imagine if Total War had a good strategic section, and your battles were based on pre-planned tactics instead of showy graphics.
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>>166158249
Total War legitimately has more in-depth tactics than Dominions overall. The vast majority of the complexity in Dominions is minutiae.
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>>166158668
>Total War legitimately has more in-depth tactics than Dominions overall.
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>>166158859
Did you ever even play Rome II MP?
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>>166158929
>Rome 2
I gave up on that shitty series way before that.
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>>166158859
You've either never played a Total War game before or you were trash at it.
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My issue is is that I feel like the UI is leaving out a lot of nuance for me. What am I missing? How do I make my magicians worth a shit? Do I just keep making them cool items and stuff? Do I put them into battle?
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>>166158993
>put spearmen in line
>skirmishers and cavalry on the wings
>watch AI mindlessly shuffle its line back and forth in the midst of a slow advanced
>wait till they contact your center line
>flank
>win

So deep, so hard. I didn't know there were still CA fanboys. Enjoying your DLC?
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>>166159095
Magicians are for being in battle. You need to figure out some spells that synergize well with each other or your unit lineup, but also keep in mind who you'll be fighting. There's a lot to learn.
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>>166159095
>My issue is is that I feel like the UI is leaving out a lot of nuance for me
It's awful. Sorry.
>What am I missing?
Most of the game
>How do I make my magicians worth a shit?
A variety of different things based on a variety of different things. The short answer, though, is research and scripting
>Do I just keep making them cool items and stuff?
Not usually.
>Do I put them into battle?
Yes

>>166159119
>Single player
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>>166159265
People play Total War for multiplayer? Since fucking when?
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>>166159119
If you judged Dominions by SP, you'd probably think that EA Abysia was pretty strong.
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>>166158668
Only true if you don't count magic. Which I do.
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>>166159336
The AI is always bad at strategy games. You know this.
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>>166159374
I didn't start the series with Rome 2. In my day multiplayer Total War had almost no population and just wasn't used.

Even so, with the way they were going when I last played I doubt it has anywheres near the tactical diversity Dominions does.
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>>166155774
count me in boyo

>>166156257
It's extremely complex, on par with HoI, but it isn't quite total war or paradox grand strat. They are completely different systems. Which is why we are not part of /gsg/

>>166157212
And I don't mean arcoscephalian wind lord with frostbrand and vine shield. I don't even mean arcoscephalean wind lord with frostbrand, vine shield, a2 access to mistform, infinite air shields and ethereal shroud- I'm talking about prophetised arc'o'scephalus weand lard with bottle of living water autocasts water elemental, a5 access to turn 1 fog warriors, boots of quickness, not-wabbajack on-hit void cast
and monolith armor, aegis shield with insta pretrification, four boots of stone for the horse and blood contract with geryon with autocast nethgull stone
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>>166159570
>It's extremely complex, on par with HoI, but it isn't quite total war or paradox grand strat. They are completely different systems. Which is why we are not part of /gsg/
You're in /gsg/'s OP image.
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>>166155648
If you're desperate enough that you think you need to empower a wind lord to A2, I'd advise threatening to deathbasket someone else, since that is far more threatening to the guy you're fighting.
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>>166159619
we are? I haven't checked in a while.
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>>166159570
>>166159265
>>166159228
Is there a memeinfographic that can guide me into this? I have the time to play it but I usually play it at work since it's low memory and I can alt-tab fast out of it. I just want to be able to enjoy it while I wagecuck.
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>>166159619
That's just part of some efforts to present the illusion that the term isn't just outdated Paradox marketing.
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>>166159570
>Which is why we are not part of /gsg/
And thank fucking christ for that.
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>>166159781
no
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>>166159663
I feel this is the moment that if I don't push now I'll end up powerless to actually win. I'll definitely survive offensive or not but if I don't really amp my gem income and fort number at this stage I fear i'll start losing traction rather hard.

>>166159781
some dude ten posts ago was talking about making a basic strategy guide for items and spells. the closest thing you have otherwise is the manual with is a little outdated and still hard to read compared to the actual game.
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>>166159781
Honestly, if you're playing single player, it is absolutely okay to have no idea what you're doing.

Play a nation that has lore, aesthetics, or magic access that appeals to you, make a pretender that you think is cool, and then just play. Try to make as many mages as possible, research spells based on what their descriptions say that they do (most of them are pretty obvious. Earth Meld locks people down, Destruction breaks people's armor, Fireball shoots a fireball). Don't worry about playing optimally.

Actually just playing the game will give you the chance to ask more specific questions, which people can then actually answer for you.
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>>166159928
Don't you want to waggle your willy?
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>>166159928
Give it two years. We've already had some people complain about animeposters.
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>>166160483
Good advice desu. Figuring out the game can be fun.
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>>166160483


With this being said, I've been doing that but I find myself wondering how to do the higher level superweapon spells. Like, how do I start going about doing those nationwide and large effect spells people talk about?
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>>166161618
You have to research them. Spells will say that they're global or battlefield wide.
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>>166159781
If you mention which nation you're interested in here, we can tell you how to use their mages/troops semi-competently.

>>166161618
If you press 'g' in the spell list, it will only show you global spells. Research one of those which you think you can reach the required casting paths for.

You'll probably need a pretender to cast most globals.

Most large AoE, battlefield-wide, and battlefield enchantment combat spells are at research level 7-9. Look there if you're interested in finding a really powerful single spell to cast.
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>>166160414
Wasting 80 air gems on something less efficient than alchemizing to pearls for a golem, or even double alchemizing for a bane, is not going to help you.
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>>166162143
Honestly, you're shit enough that even the old dom 3 guide some goons wrote would help you.

Fortunately, a semi-updated version exists.
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Building_thugs_and_SCs
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>>166163052
That only helps for a few nations with recruitable thugs.

It doesn't help with using mages to support troops and armies at all.
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>>166159781
What sort of class/archetype do you like in fantasy games?
Also, since the main method of multiplayer is PBEM, there are plenty of non-neets here who can participate in regular multiplayer games since turns come in once a day.
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>>166163052
Was meant for
>>166160414

>>166163248
>recruitable thugs.
Or summonable thugs.

>It doesn't help with using mages to support troops and armies at all.
Neither will the item guide.
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>>166163689
>Or summonable thugs.
Even if you have thug summons, you're still left with the question of what to do with the mages you bought with gold.

>Neither will the item guide.
I didn't suggest he use that either.

But I see you weren't recommending it for him, so it doesn't matter much.
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>>166163674


I like countries that are huge faceless states. I chose the roman one and it's been going so far, they seem really good for expansion.
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>>166165259
>huge faceless states
Explain further
>good for expansion
They're kinda mediocre actually
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>>166165575
I thought ermor had amazing expansion with W9 equites.
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>>166165786
>amazing
Okay for the era with elves, white centaurs, and kung fu masters
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I think the single best thing the birds have is that you can pull off a surprise mobilization of your entire mage corps several provinces afar.

>>166165907
elves are mediocre expanders.
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>>166166106
>mediocre expanders.
You think I'm talking about expanding against INDIES in the early game?
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>>166166370
elves are mediocre expanders against indies, you think you can expand better towards player armies early game?

don't you have wind lords to empower?
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>>166166525
You think I'm talking about expanding TOWARDS enemy armies in the early game?
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>>166166728
>getting half your army killed by PD then getting removed from the siege by the slightly annoyed enemy player
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>Abysia Waiting for 2h file
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
>Marverni Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan 2h file received
>Niefelheim Waiting for 2h file
Therodos 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received

It's going at lightning speed.
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>>166166835
>getting any army killed by PD
>ever
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>>166167314
>chaff against chaff will have no loses
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>>166166835
You think that elves are capable of losing against PD in the early game?
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>>166166106
Uh, which elves? Even Vanhere, the worst expanders due to lack of defense, are vastly better than Equites.
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Can I have a 12 hour delay for CanIntoHost?
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>>166167459
Elves ain't chaff
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>>166168465
An additional one? Fine.
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>>166169037
Yeah, they are overpriced chaff.
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>>166175094
Not any that you should ever be using. Tuatha/Oathbound/Nemedians have fantastic expansion, especially the former. Helherdings and Vans are much the same, but are less effective at fighting other humans due to their lack of comparative cost effectiveness once magic becomes relevant.

Vanhere are the single best cap only sacred by a pretty solid margin, winning even against Zheyadans when tested against them.

A more solid rule would be that elves recruited from anywhere but the capital are shit. Except Eriu, which is all shit, all the time.
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>>166175660
Vanheres lose to Niefel Giants for cost in cold scales
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When's a new fucking game starting?
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>>166175940
when you make one.
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>>166175940
We only do abstinent games here, sorry.
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>>166175660
Even non-cap elves are pretty good if all you're fighting is indies/PD.

Glamor and good stats means they can often take on a human force 3 times their size, so long as you have a large enough force to prevent them surrounding you.
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>>166176154
I'm shit though. I don't want to be in charge of a game that I'm knocked out of early. I want to get back into the swing of the game first.
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>>166176715
Just don't go AI. You'd be surprised how long it takes to actually finish a player off if they stay in.
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>>166176825
I've been on the receiving end of a war of annihilation before. A capitol loaded with PD and an okay amount of mages can last a long time, but after not playing for a few months I have 0 confidence in my abilities.
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>>166157521
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>>166159336
Fall of the Samurai multiplayer was pretty fun.
To claim it was deep however, would be pretty retarded.
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>>166175770
Having done this fight before, the Niefel Giants need N9E9 to have a shot, and even then only in Cold 2+.
Vanheim wins even in those circumstances by simply casting strength of giants on the Vanhere. I *suppose* Niefel could counter with Legions of Steel if they somehow came across a lucky E3 mage random event/site, but I find that unlikely. They typically need Body Ethereal to actually beat the vanhere.
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>>166177192
Shogun 2 in general was pretty fun imho.
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>>166163052
>SC: Tailor-made to drop on an enemy army and flatten it. Traditionally, this could stand for either Super Caster OR Super Combatant; it's any tough, gamechanging piece to drop on an army. Keep that in mind for when you get a Tartarian capable of dropping Soul Drain before wading into melee. Or rain of stone cyclops. Titan pretenders often provide a chassis for this early on. Forester Bob is the classic example.
>Forester Bob
>SC
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>>166176825
So much this, especially if they can stuff the capital with crap (N gives wolves, A gives birds, other paths are less efficient but can still make things annoying as shit, especially early).

This REALLY hurts the bless rush nations outside Pan, who often struggle to bring forth siege strength early - Pan struggles too unless running turmoil.

AI otoh can be gamed really easily, and lured into breaking siege.
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>>166177319
Never bothered with the base game because it looked like everybody had identical units.
At least FotS had this modern/traditional split and muskets were quite fun.
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>>166177246
>Having done this fight before, the Niefel Giants need N9E9 to have a shot
I've never seen Niefel do anything else.
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>>166177392
Yeah, the arr rook same thing was a big problem. But the combat felt/feels real fast and smooth, compared to Warhammer, which is my main other warscape frame of reference and the fights and carpets were really pretty.
FOTS was the best part of S2, but S2 was great too.
It just works.
Also FOTS didn't have speeches.
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>>166177516
I've seen all of these variants, all of which have worked well enough: N9, N9E4, N9W9, N9E9.

I've seen other variations, but those have been . . . less than effective. Even then, N9E9 Niefels win in gold efficiency in 1/3 of possible temp scales, and only so long as Vanhere don't take either a F9 or B9 bless (which, tbf, they more or less never do).
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>>166177328
How was forester bob not a SC?
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>>166178703
He was fighting a fucking scrub that might as well been an AI player. He was just endlessly throwing troops at him, without any mage support. Also he just had some hastily thrown together thug gear, not an expensive set of SC gear.

Source: I was in that game.
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>>166177663
Warhammer might be their best game to date, if I turn of my nostalgia for Medieval 1 and 2 for a minute. I guess by not being "fast and smooth" you mean that quite a lot of units are too tough and feel like bullet sponges, which I agree to.
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>>166178857
He could take on mage-supported armies with 1-2 gear pieces swapped out for appropriate resistances. Marverni just got to skip resistances because he knew his opponent didn't have mage support.

>he just had some hastily thrown together thug gear, not an expensive set of SC gear
Most SC gear is cheap too. The difference between them is usually how much they wear; thugs get by with a couple of pieces (usually just brand+shield) whereas SCs go for full slots.

Out of Forester Bob's equipment, the only questionable choices were the bracer of protection and the robe of shadows (which is somewhat justifiable since he could ironskin).

The rest is pretty standard gear for both thugs and SCs, despite its cheapness. Outside of artifacts there are not many improvements to be made to his setup.

Me too, it's nice to see some of you guys from my first game are still around.
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>>166179913
I'll never accept him as an SC though. Heavy thug at best.

Was my first game too.
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>>166181274
What would need to be changed to make him a SC, in your opinion?

I was arco, who were you?
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>>166181274

>e'en to this day
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>>166181715
A better chasis for one, something like a Tartarian. And better gear.

>>166181715
>>166181820
Was Yomi I believe (could have been Abysia, but I think that was a later game). Terrible nation for a first game.
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>>166149453
I've lost, but I'm trying to make it as miserable for everyone else as possible.
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>>166181274
Supercombatant just has to be "super" compared to his opposition.
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Huh. Turns out Iron bane really bums Zhayedans out
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>>166183972
You did wrong man, you should have remained in the fortress and exploited your position of advante imo.
Coming out was exactly what I would have liked you to do. I dunno, something like: hold and attack rear so as to get my mages while my main force already entered the fortress. You's a flying nigga you can do that shit.
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>>166184882
What'd he actually do?
How'd the battle go down?
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>>166185050
I was besieging some palisades with my main army, I expected him to hold his ground inside the fortress but he tried to break out.
He had some 120 birbs against 300 of my own soldiers + mages. Spammed him stellar cascades: he lost around 80 I seem to remember, while I lost 9 horsemen because I was dumb and I forgot to script them not to attack like retards in the beginning of the battle.

Free fort for me I guess
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RIP Furcas, you were a real contender.
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>>166185481
Also the only non warlock able to lead my misbreds. Bit of a tactical blunder there on my part.
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>>166185153
he beat my assault on his fort though; shame that's like... 1/4 of my forces

but still I'll be holed up fighting off Mictlan for long enough he should be able to recover; albeit he's still probably out of the game now
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>>166186014
>birbs still alive
Nigga I still have nightmares about the time he removed Ulm
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>>166186683
Mictlan is cutting off his routes for expansion though
wouldn't be shocked if he's gonna finish him off in the midst of warring me
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>>166159480

Yeah, but Multiplayer in TW games tends to range somewhere between disappointing to unplayable depending on the game.
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>>166181820
didn't forester bob pretty much codify standard thug gear for years to come?

>>166183972
cast bot for the memes.
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>>166183972
kinda shocked you havent posted by defeat from turn 50 desu
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>I accidentally moved my contest champion to another and I didn't realize
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>>166188508
Do you think he could have beat Atlantis's ghost king or my fire elemental/anathemant dragon combo?
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>>166188679
no but the RP demands I try.

If it happened 2 turns later, there was a chance.
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>>166187463
If I had the gems I'd cast Perpetual Storm. Unfortunately I'm down to my cap income and one E site.

Which is pretty much what I had before, desu. Niefelheim can tell you how bad my site distribution was.
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PRAISE BE HIS NAME, FOR THE SON OF THE RIGHT HAND HAS RETURNED FROM HIS WAYWARD LANDS TO READ THE RIGHTOUS ON THE RIGHT PATH
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>High Elves break siege
>Skaven thus get first turn
>A few Skaven units charge forward while mages commune and toss chaff everywhere
>High Elf everything targets the dozen or so charging rats instead of anything valuable
>Skaven communion master casts mist form
>High Elves are slaughtered
The Elves were never going to win but it still hurts to see hope snuffed out like that.
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>>166191843
I its any consolation I intend to move to attack the rats myself next turn.
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>>166191843
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>>166191843
Where was the elves firebird?
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How do we ensure that cancer nations are removed at the beginning of the game?
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>>166194879
ban them from being selected
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>>166194879
>>166194928
Can someone make a mod with absolute worst shit garbage-ass nations from all ages?
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Am I the only one whos turn got fucked or did everyone else have the same thing happen?
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>>166160554

Animeneets are the worst kind of autists though, and are usually of low intellect and racist in most cases. You let them into your community and you will quickly become like /gsg/
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>>166197004
While you are not wrong this polynesian rug making board really isnt the place to complain about them.
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>>166197004
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>>166191843

Fuck these gay world, I'm casting teleport.
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Hey for those playing Dont' Stale Desu Sempai how many points do you guys need to win? I'm currently monitoring the game.
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>>166197151

There are containment boards for cantonese caligraphy, so it's not wrong to say that some parts of 4chan wants little to do with Philippinese Puppetshows
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>>166187463
>didn't forester bob pretty much codify standard thug gear for years to come?
No. He just used the standard gear that many people weren't aware of.
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>>166198110
No fred, it is you who is being contained.
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>>166199110
tfw animeneet shitposting is japanese culture
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>>166198110
Well too bad. This site is for weeaboos and for their various weeb and non-weeb interests. Better fall in line.
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>>166199110
japanese culture is not anime first of all

>>166199318
never was. it was meant to be an english 2chan. read your homework boyo.
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>>166199110
who?
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>>166199391
...and 2ch was an anime imageboard, what is your point?
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>it's an "lets shit up the thread with none-dominion 4 topics again"
I want the aussies to go to bed
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What are some things to do with the demon lords once you summon them?
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>>166199391
Sit was made by moot to discuss anime with his friends. Main board when it started out was was "anime/random".

t. guy who's been here since 2006 and done his homework
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>>166199442
2ch is an all purpose japanese textboard you ignorant newfag

2chan is an imageboard offshoot, and the mein things moot wanted to recreate was constant fast moving new content. Anime was just one of the hobbies both communities ended up attaining.

as a matter of fact, the majority of early site drama was moot trying to force people to keep making new content.
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>>166197603
It's 12 points I think.
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>>166177352
The funny thing is, Race War Per-En only just now lost his cap and he went AI two turns into a war like a month ago.
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>>166196116
It happened to everyone; llama didn't know whose turn, so it just hosted w/o any.
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>>166199649
See >>166199610
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>>166199947
Sometimes the AI is better than the player. See also, both people who went AI in AutisticRPGame.
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I'm looking at new nations to try, and decided to give Niefelheim a shot. However, I can't really figure out what to do with Gygjas. I can see how N3, and, to a much much lesser extent, N2 are useful, same for D2, but that's pretty much it. They can't really use the astral for communion since there are no cheap slaves, and higher blood doesn't seem great on the battlefield.
I know about the turbo communion, so them having B1 is great, but they seem pretty overpriced to me.
Any hints?
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>>166201981
turbo communions is literally the reason. infintie casting with skittles taking all the pain really makes gygjas a beast of their own
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>>166202181
>skittles
Are you going to force that retarded meme and pretend you're an oldfag again?
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>>166201981
Earlygame researchers and sitesearchers.
Not sure how much use they will be later in the game, I'll see when my MP games reach midgame.

I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to approach mage support as Niefelheim. You'll be lagging behind in research and 2/3rd of your national mages are better used as thugs/SCs.
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>>166202529
are you gonna get upset over name again? I can post wiki links all day and act smug again
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>>166202181
What is turbo communion?
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>>166202585
>wiki links
Are you actually implying that some person who wrote most of the wiki (which is much worse than jap wiki, actually) included some shit memes? That's pretty embarrassing.
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>>166202669
A communion that allows you to spam spells without killing your slaves.
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>>166202669
Use Skratti in werewolf form with Shroud of the Battle Saint (so they get your N9 bless) as slaves.
Ideally cast Personal Regeneration into the communion with a Gygja.
Even a few can absorb a lot of fatigue since they regen hp very fast.
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>>166202669
most communion slaves will invitable die due to damage from max fatigue if a battle goes on for too long, so much nations have to keep a healthy supply of communion slave to reduce the burden on them when the master casts.

However the Niefel nations have a B2W2 mage (sabbath slaves do connect with normal communion master) who can turn into a werewolf which has 10 regen. SO you can get a N9 bless and turn the mage into a werewolf, then put a Battle saint shroud on him and he will regen 20% health eaach turn. What this means is that with a large HP pool and 20% regen he will recover any damage he suffers from going over 200 fatigue from communion master spells, which means communion masters can pretty much cast spells for the entire battle without falling asleep from fatigue. Now imagine this with spells that just scale relaly well over time like say HoS or massive Evo, or casting spells with gigantic Fatigue cost. It really makes the mage lineup a lot stronger and makes up for their lack of numbers
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>>166202181
Stiil need worthwhile spells to cast though.
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>>166202889
you were the one who spammed wiki links first. Again I'm gonna keep calling them skittles and any smug posting you make won't stop me.
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>>166203080
>communionable boosting to DNBS
>no worthwhile spells
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>>166203124
Alright, I concede. But each time I see this word in the thread, I'm gonna wait for the last 5 minutes to submit the turn in one of my games ;^)
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>>166204414
YOU COULDVE PREVENTED THIS
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>>166204589
YOURE DEALING WITH FORCES YOU CANT HOPE TO COMPREHEND
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People wanted a game so I made one

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=YesItsAMiddleAgeGame
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>>166205787
>Ermor is banned
>summod
why?
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>>166205787
I'll join in a few minutes,
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>>166202181
skittles is not and has never been a thing apart from your posts.
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>>166204548
>>166204630
t. Lukas
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>>166205876
A sure sign of scrubbiness.
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>>166206348
Are there any other memes associated with player names? I only know "arguing with Rejakor", "get in the Steam chat, sorry forgot my name", and that's all.
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>>166206472
t. Pan
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>>166206472
Cirno and his retarded pretender builds.
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>>166206472
Carlix tends to show his poor but cute English. Vava names all of his gods "[adjective] One". And there's also Sy with a classic "brb, need to test that".
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>>166205876
>>166205876
Ermor isn't fun to fight, and I don't want to deal with some twat who joins thinking it'll be a noob stomp and starts staling when everyone jumps on him. Same reason I reserved Ulm.
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>>166206472
Sausage. It's a very old meme.
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>that feeling when you finally get to see the pretender for the nation you subbed in for
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>>166205787
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/better-arena-rewards
>desura
>banned ermor
How we supposed to dl from a defunct link now huh?
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>>166207093
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=YesItsAMiddleAgeGame
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>>166207093
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SkeletonWar
has a link to BA on the front page, and a sick ASCII
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>>166207093
from the link in the game's message of the day, you fucking troglodyte
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>>166206972
Hello FourthTurning Abysia

So, how's everyone else doing in FourthTurning?
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>>166207436
did you click the link?
It is the one I pasted here
thanks for the compliment on the size of my dong
>>
Holy shit Summod+ME Mari is actually fun.
>witch hunters spamming Ignite Unbeliever
>You can martyr your priests to increase dominion
>Unlimited flagellant works
>You can actually fucking use Paladins
>Angel of Fury costs fire gems
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>>166207683

Look harder.
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>>166207683
nervermind
I am a troglodyte
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>>166207683
You're very dim, aren't you? It's the dropbox link above the Ermor is Banned message
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>>166206472
Amuys dying
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>>166202964

Mind Lord with Ring of Regeneration and Amulet of the Fish.
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>>166205787
Aww sheet. Let's see if I join this, although I would have preferred LA.
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>>166205787
>Novice to intermediate
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>>166205787
Joined as Nazca.
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>>166207797
>>166207831
I was talking about the link the llama gives us
and about "yesitsmiddleagegame"
which also has a link in the description
looks like I am a xibalbat IRL
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>>166208253
>looks like I am a xibalbat IRL
Cute!
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>>166208209
BDN demilich?
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>>166208360
FDB Demilich
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>>166207969
damnit, guess that means another game I'm not allowed to join.
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>>166208360
>>166208430
how do manage to even afford the mages?
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>>166208808
by killing your neighbors with sacreds and taking their provinces
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>>166208898
wow
rude
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>>166208965
they are burds mixed with spookies!
they deserve no mercy!
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>>166208430
>taking F9 and D9
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>>166209181
they stack
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>>166209224
they suck
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>>166209224
they don't
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>>166209303
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>>166209303
They do.
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>>166209303
D9 is 1AN MRN, F9 is 6AP, and they do stack.
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>>166205787
MARIGON UP SCRUBBIES!
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>>166209303
You may be thinking of the F9/D9 bless effects not stacking with the on-hit effects of brands (and presumably other weapons).
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>>166209739
2*
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>>166207562
Dude I am going to be able to summon SO MANY fire ants.

You don't even know.
>>
>>166209739

Also notable on the D9. If memory serves it has an increased affliction chance on it's hit.
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>>166206972
I'm having to deal with an F4A3E1S1D4 Shedu in a game I subbed in for. I want to find the person who came before me, and write them a strongly worded letter.
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>>166185481
At least the victor is condemned to inevitable death now.
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>>166205787
Joining as Bandar Log
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>>166210423
He would be if he wasnt a ghost. Pretty sure disease doesn't actually cause tundead to lose health.
>>
How does MA Man played?
Only played them LA (and won).
>>
>>166210659
With summod?
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>>166210423
The victor is dead already, so instead he's just condemned to spread disease.
>>
>>166199610
Site was made by moot because he was kicked out of the SA anime board but it was never meant to be just about anime.

>he thinks 2006 is being an old fag
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>>166210659
Totally different. LA Man is a strong mage nation with front-liney crossbows. Vanilla MA Man's mages are some real garbage by comparison. E/A/S are just better paths than N.
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>>166210795
Well yes, the game I'm interested in usses summod.

>>166211028
So what does MA do then? Supposedly they recieved a number of buffs in summod.

>>166210876
>never was mean to be just about anime
>looked like this
Oh please continue to enlighten me, Mr. Oldfag.
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>>166211172
Knights of Avalon are the bomb, spam them from every forest possible. Go full scales.
>>
>>166211172
RIP /g/
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>>166209779
They didn't stack in Dom 3 IIRC but they always have in Dom 4.
>>
>>166211172
/s/ isn't anime
>>
>>166211745
Guess I have no more leg to stand on then.
>>
>>166211172
>So what does MA do then? Supposedly they recieved a number of buffs in summod.
Never played them in summod. I know that in Vanilla, what they "do" is suck.
>>
>>166206348
for the record I"m calling them skittles, if this triggers you don't join my games and enjoy endless late game delays


t. real lukas
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>>166207093
>already in two games
>exams coming up, so I really shouldn't
>but no turns today because some asshat extended in both
HELP
>>
>>166213012
>only two games

look at this pleb, I'm in 14,lambert got in 25, get on that level
>>
>>166213153
That's literally how you get into drugs.
>just two more games can't hurt right?
And before you know if you are stuck doing 8 hours worth of turns every day.
>>
>>166213153
Lambert regretted doing 25 and hasn't done as many since.
>>
>>166211172
>/y/ came before /u/
Huh.
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>>166213701
yes they are our good neighbors
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>>166152595
Summod+ME Pyth is basically cheaper shit overall.
Also you can summon angels in battle pretty early on and you get a holy spell that works sorta like battle fortune.
Their big new spells is basically a Astral/Holy version of Demon Cleansing, a cheaper Will of the Fates, and a battlefield wide stun to enemies/sermon of courage to friendlies.
You can also summon cheap hydras I guess but you need a w/n mage.
>>
>>166214560
What about Abysia? I hear ME makes them actually strong but the only new thing I saw was balrogs.
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>This map
>7 nation blitz
>3 UW nations
Ohhhhh boy.
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>>166215820
>Ys
>1 UW connection
good luck ladies
>>
Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
>Vanheim Waiting for 2h file
>Yomi Waiting for 2h file

Back to normal
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Advice for pretender design with summod MA ´Man?

Was thinking about full scales (O3P3H1G3M3) with F4 for fire arrows. Unfortunately that kinda leaves me with the Archmage chasis.
>>
>>166218484
Ask Rejakor (yes, really) about his Man game. He's the only person I know to have done well with MA Man's mages.
>>
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=YesItsAMiddleAgeGame

Only 4 more fags needed.
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>>166218610
I have no idea who that guy is.
Well MA man got plenty of buffs in summod, so they probably aren't nearly as bad as in vanilla.
>>
>>166218610
Post the Rejakor pic
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I had a dumb idea. Say we finish this RP game. Would you guys be up for a sequel where we move to MA on the same map, but maybe we modify it a bit to have remnants and references to the last game? Like say custom sites referencing the biggest events and the final contenders? Whoever ends up Pantokrator would have the most influence but also stuff like final standing globals, sites of decisive battles, that kind of thing?
>>
>>166219141
Too much work for a typical /domg/ autist. Though it's possible. I can help with map sites.
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>>166219252
I assumed I'd be doing most of the work.
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>>166218792
SHIT NIGGA I AIN'T DONE PLANNING MY PRETENDER YET
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>>166219519
DO IT NOW OR WELL START WITHOUT YOU
>>
>>166215820
What's the name of this map? Looks nice.
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>>166219629
WELL FUCK THE ONE I HAVE NOW WILL GET ME LAUGHED OFF THE BOARD
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>>166218484
Go full Heat if you want to utilize Flaming Arrows. And take something like a celestial lion instead of a your shadowverse meme.
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>>166219813
>No S1
No laughs
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>>166219957
That's much more cost efficient. Thanks.
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Just make an awakesnake with F2 (you don't need F4 for arrows)
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Here, I made a pretender that sucks less for you
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>>166220196
That's shit because you can't get good scales. E6 snek is good enough for Man anyway
>>
I love this new meta where no one takes dom higher than 6. I win every candle contest.
>>
>>166205787
Admin, please delete my pretender for Vanarus. Apparently, I'm an expert player, so I don't match the casting criteria.
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>>166220379
He specifically wants flaming arrows, which means F2+

I'm not gonna call it a good strat, but I am gonna make a pretender that can do the thing that he wants it to do
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>>166220374
He needs Magic 2 at least. As in this is vital for MA Man in summod
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>>166220478
5-10% of the time, every time.
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>>166219141
Short answer: Yes.

I feel like there's a lot of details to work out, though.
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>>166220374
NOT ENOUGH SCALES
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>>166220702
Naturally, and it's a long way off.
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>>166220707
>>166220651
It's a dragon. It has plenty of scales.
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>>166220532
>I'm not gonna call it a good strat
Well, what would you go for then? Good scales is something I want, since I want to try those summod changes. I guess I could get different magic paths. What would you suggest?

>>166220779
I had dragons with Dominion 9 (for Awe) get reckt by PD, so is that one actually durable?
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How's this?
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>>166221329
Really bad, but you know this. MA Mict has normal dom spread, so it can't manage its cancer scales the way EA/LA can.
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>>166221564
I'll just build more temples with my extra money from big expansion though?
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>>166221648
You misunderstand me. Your scales are so bad that you want to prevent your own dom from spreading. EA and LA can manage this, using blood sac to hold off enemy dom while keeping their dom from spreading outside of their cap. MA Mict can't do this since your temples DO spread dom.
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>>166221648

You don't WANT to have a lot of temples, because that gets you your dominion.

Unfortunately you can't prevent spreading your dominion by not saccing.
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>>166221329
Take F9W9 instead to make at least one neighbour suffer more than you.
>>
New thread when?
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>>166221918
When you make it, sweetcheeks.
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>>166221918
>>166222053
Here, new thread for a new meta:

>>166222204
>>166222204
>>166222204
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