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>list of good comm. servers
http://pastebin.com/paW0DAG4

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf tf2outpost.com backpack.tf bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf scrapbank.me
Betting: saloon.tf
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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>>165824741
7 is not a real number
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>>165824741
I like to take it up the ass :3
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>>165824741
I'm a big fan of trains
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>>165824741
>>165824867
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>>165824867
It doesn't all fit, you hack. Should I just put the YouTube video?
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>>165825063
yes use the link as name
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>>165825063
don't forget the [Embed]
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>>165825181
Woops
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r8 my sniper loadouts
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>>165826239
trash
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>>165826239
Shit
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>>165826547
>>165826561
why?
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>>165826627
They all look like shit
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>>165826753
why?
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>>165826767
You probably have shit taste
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>>165826813
ok thanks :((
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>>165826627
>>165826767
none of them have a cohesive theme except maybe the last one

also I hate the extra layer
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>>165827089
but the gator one...and the robin hood with the bow REEE
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>>165827130
I refuse to believe you convinced yourself that's what robin hood looks like
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>>165827482
no it's EDGY robin hood :)
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nice page 9
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I want to convert Hydro and make it a multistage A/D CP map with a few changes so it doesn't become stalematey or a roll in areas.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvA927yQl9A
yo is this person fucking retarded
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>>165828932
Good fucking luck with that, a few of the stages are incredibly dumb to navigate, and that's coming from someone who loves steel
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>>165829137
stop self-adv already
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i understand that it's 4am on the west coast but please fix this valve
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>>165829405
wtf is this resolution
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>>165829451
very very low so my toaster can run the game above 30 fps
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>>165829405
>480p
>49fps
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>>165829623
taking a screenshot made the game lag i usually get above 60
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>>165828932
just turn the middle stage into ctf honestly
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>>165829690
disable hats and you will get 100 fps goi :)
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>>165829894
nah i'm good
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>Schadenfreude.jpg
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>You will never get your dream loadout because who the fuck wants to spend hundreds on dollars on a 10-year old game

Why live bros
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>>165830854
>His dream loadout includes an unusual
lmao fag
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>>165830959
Nah. Just professional australium items ;)
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>>165830990
that's even worse
just use a client-side australium skin if you really want one
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>>165831162
but muh bling bling and swag
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>>165831202
disgusting
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>>165826239
Terrible.

Rate mine
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>>165832337
10/10
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>>165829690
honestly you should just avoid casual and comp mm if you want anything resembling a playable framerate
i can play TF2 in a 2009 laptop going at 100fps all the time thanks to chris maxframes config
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>>165834939
Chris's MaxRubble Stone-Age Computing Wizardry
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>>165830646
>as a twitch streamer

STOPPED READING HERE
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>>165830646
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>>165838094
Now i remember why i stopped trading with other people.
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>>165832337
youwillsellitinlessthan2weeks/10
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>>165826239
gay/10
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>>165838880
We'll see
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Will Valve ever release an update that addresses the laundry list of visual bugs? I miss the crisp and clean visuals from years ago.
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>get pink shirt to go with the randomly won pink hat
This feels odd. I want to play scout now and be a dick.
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>>165823202

I know right?

SMG OP
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>>165841350
>"trickstabber"
>Name has a gaudy font
>chewing you out for using the smg
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>>165841526
Funny think was he was playing Soldier so I have no idea what the Trickstabber thing was about
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>>165841776
He's probably a new-ish Spy main who wanted to try another class. Anyone with an ounce of game experience wouldn't die to a SMG that often.
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>>165841187
No
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>>165841350
>having to call a truce with an SMG sniper

>>165841776
>WHILE PLAYING SOLDIER
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>>165841350
>>165841776
what map tho
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>>165843687
I can't remember
Think it was frontier or something
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>>165843687
Huh.
Can't really imagine any positions where a soldier would be at such a heavy disadvantage there
Not against an smg anyway
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>enemy team is half soldiers
>other half is pocket medics with kritzkriegs
>4 people with unusuals
>have to switch out of sticky jumper because game is serious
>"demo tryhard stickysmap xD"
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>>165843942
>>165844165
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>>165844337
>an entire opposing team of soldiers and kritz medics
>not using the vacc on like one heavy and winning the match
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>>165844165
I think he was just retarded
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ded thred
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>>165845647
Swagmans Swatter
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>>165845647
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>165844736
dumb weeb poster
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>>165830646
Shit I know the guy, felt bad that he had no friends, so I just kinda joined him whenever he was streaming, he seemed happy at first
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>>165846769
rude
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i just played like 4 rounds of tf2c arena mode
why arent more people playing this
this shit is fun
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>>165848610
because it isn't TRADE_MINECRAFT_B3 #FREEPERKS

I know we're lacking in people but I want this community to just fucking kill itself already, and let us have our game back

I've played it too, it reminded me of the days when I could go 104/37 in Quake
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http://tf2r.com/ki0sinc.html
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post freedoms
R8/h8
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>>165850038
I dont care what they say, ur a cool dude
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>>165853124
1 > 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 > 3
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>>165853124
>antlers meme
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>>165853124
i like gold faggot soldier
everything else is meh
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>>165853910
same
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>>165857173
kurt cobain's pew pew
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I see loadout.tf added in a new feature
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>>165857346
what's that
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>>165857173
Krist Novoselic's Bass
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>>165857173
(it ain't me starts playing)
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>>165857995
Another weapon from the experts at /tf2g/
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>>165857995
wait a minute
I've seen that artstyle before
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Congrats
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>>165853124
Warhawk is a nice skin.
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>>165857995
post the pic
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This general used to be one of the most active on 4chan
Now its a ghost town
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>>165857464
Facial posing
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>>165826239
The first one would look good without the outback intellectual

>>165832337
This one, I like. Always wanted an unusual Wet Works.
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>>165858415
Source on the spray? I'm asking for a friend
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>>165859639
so what
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>>165859639
Thats what happens with so little dev input.
The community can only do so much to keep the game alive.
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>>165858496
I had the choice of selling it or the aussi rl, I chose the aussi.

It's just has the rare factor to it, and the skin is nice.
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24/7 INSTARESPAWN ALL CRIT SMG SNIPER ONLY BADWATER BATTLE SERVER
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>>165841350
I remembered ThatGuyTagg's videos. He was using The Classic with SMG and it was more than enough to make Soldiers (or anyone else) cry with agony.

>>165844736
Good call. Unless they're playing with Shotguns or can focus fire
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boolets - large man of weaponry
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>>165865003
>Unless they're playing with Shotguns
nu-vacc lets you use multiple resistances at once
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why im a great exploder ?
if i wasnt great i wouldnt be here !
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>>165865003
When does Tagg stream, actually?

need more of that fuckboy in my life
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>>165861029
>Little dev input
That's a fucking lie
There's been a shitload of dev input, but combined with declining playing population and development leading to community servers being harder to access leading to decreased community server input but increased community cosmetic input
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shoot people from far is nice occupation, colleague! - criminal
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>>165867958
>>165866760
>>165865809
I appreciate you keeping the thread alive but this meme is dumb
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>>165868007
I was actually not on your team for real - homosexual
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Game time tf2g
Go here: http://tf2tags.com/random
and don't come back without something good.
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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>>165869479
GOOD LORD
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you can shoot through this window
wow think of the possibilites
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>>165869791
If only people played steel
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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where do you find a good soap dm server
i only see 4 and theyre all empty, except for one which has bots with unparalleled skill
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>>165869791
I always spam scorch shots from there into heavies and snipers, lots of fun
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>>165868410
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>>165872036
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers/
make pauses regularly or your wrists will literally fall off i speak from experience
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
I win
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>>165874419
>immigrents
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>>165868410
ok i laffed
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
I feel lucky
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>>165875535
That genuinely got a laugh out of me
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>mfw I hit a triple pipe airshot

Not stickyspamming feels good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqMq8dzg6Vs

That's educational. I remember a video maker fella and he been talking about doing a F-a-N video. He better watch this one.

>>165867127
You can notifications when he goes live. Check his twitch account. I believe he does streams often in twitch.
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>>165867358
What dev input?
A guy marking a bunch of bugs reports as "read" a week before the year ended?
One post telling people to make jungle items?
Taking the beta sticker off comp?
Making people pick a team to decide who will eventually get a retool?
There has been next to no dev i put on anything. Pretty much every email goes unanswered unless its a fix for a cosmetic, and valve remains silent about what they are doing beyond an occasional vague blog post.
One can only hope that valve is just too busy working on something cool beyond the vive controllers, but we have no idea.
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>We're currently working on our next major update, which features a new campaign, the Pyro class pack, matchmaking improvements/features, and lots of game balancing improvements.

I actually like campaigns. Makes me play pubs more.
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>The count varies depending on what the team is working on, but the current count is 16. This includes programmers, artists, writers, level designers, and sound engineers.
As far as the 10th anniversary, we have lots of things we're excited to get into the community's hands this year, but we can't promise a major update will land on that day/date.
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>fixed dev commentary audio files not playing properly

Ten years. Ten fucking years to fix those damn things
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>two vague "we are working on something" posts are a "shitload" of dev input
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>the team is staffed by a group of people that love and play the game. We're committed to supporting and growing TF2 with new features, content, and player experiences.
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>>165876762
>this is what the tf community actually believes in
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>>165876407
Wonder if he meant "by that day".
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>16 devs
>none of them work

it hurts less when you think there are 5 devs and none of them work
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>>165857173
dont censor it you fuck
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>VNN cumming over Gabe agreeing to an interview
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>>165877360
The release day?
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>>165877360
The actual anniversary.
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>>165877546
Nobody at Valve actually works.

There is no reason for them to work.
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>>165824652

>when you get 10 heads
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>>165877360
He's saying they probably won't finish the content before the anniversary

Who'da thunk
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>>165868410
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>TF2 has millions of unique players per month, and the team is staffed by a group of people that love and play the game. We're committed to supporting and growing TF2 with new features, content, and player experiences.


HA
HA
HA
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>>165879402
I tend to believe them tho'...
Years ago in like 2013-14, before I quit I sent a few ideas to a developer. I really can't recall his name now... But there it goes, I suggested:
>a Spy knife that allows Spy to disguise on backstab
We got YER
>a deployable bumper car or roonba that carries Engineer or Spy along the battlefield
We have that crazy cart race for halloween and bumper car taunts
>an explosive device instead of knife to backstab players with it
We can sap bots in MvM now

Recently;
>me and another anon mentioned a parachute for Soldier and Demo would be cool
A month later we got B.A.S.E
>mailed them and told them that Spy gameplay in high comp is reduced to Amby spam
Also added that we have to balance Spy revolvers in a way blabla-bla... and...
next day UGC banned razorback

tl;dr: They're reading. They try to take your mails into account. But that's all they can pull without breaking anything else.
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>>165880334
>me and another anon mentioned a parachute for Soldier and Demo would be cool a year or so ago in this very general*
fixed. I think I also mailed them about it as well... Can't recall now.
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>>165877546
There are 16 people on the team, including artists, writers, and devs. That means we don't know how many of them are actually coders. Still, it means a lot more than just 5.
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The offline practice is bugged.
The view models are a mess.

It also affects some weapons
>the pistols and SMGs reload instantly
>The revolver use the tranquilizer gun reload
>All melee weapons swing slower

try it and have fun.
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>>165881231
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>2 shots the smallest and fastest class that is your counter
>also 2 shots one of the biggest and slowest class that is not really your counter

Is this a real problem in tf2?
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cyka
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>>165881780

forgot image
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>>165881948
>>165881780
It takes 3 pipes to kill a heavy, not 2.
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>>165882023
>one of the biggest
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>>165881780
>>165881948
Pipes are a bitch to hit on good players
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while playing as a medic i feel vulnerable. in an optimal game there is usually somebody near me to protect me, i heal them and they keep away scouts and shit. but i notice in competitive half the time while im playing medic my teammates will avoid me out of the spawn after an overheal and i feel they explosive jump too much and too far away as they are never close enough to save me when i do get ambushed trying to keep up with them. what do i do in these situations? how do other medics deal with this? do i keep my distance and wait until another player is close by instead of trying to chase down these faggots? should i drop crossbow in these situations for syringe so i can defend myself? or sacrifice overheal with quickfix at the risk of every other player crying "use a real uber"?
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>>165882148
biggest means theres notthing bigger.
Also for the nade launcher that implies that you get a direct hit and you have to consider the mobility of the scout and the trajectory of the pipes so if you go against someone that doesnt stand still or moves predictable then yeah they are hard to hit. OR in close range like pathways where other classes as well easily kills anything so not that unbalanced on demo.
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>>165882687
>one of
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>>165882649
All mediguns let you keep the speed of what you heal so your only problem is team communication, yell to those faggots on how to value one of the most important parts of a team, seriously it sounds like you only play with shitters.
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>>165882849
are you actually going by size or by health
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>>165882649
tell one of the fuckers to be your pocket instead of running off.

Also dont leave spawn without your pocket or the roaming soldiers will just wait hiding on top of your spawn door for you
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>>165882687
dumb ESL poster.
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The pink feels dirty.
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>>165882856
>>165882981
i don't think its just them, i do not communicate which may be a problem. but i will always encounter these players so i need to adapt and have a strategy, i want to know what i can do in this situation other than just switching to a class i feel is also being neglected (which usually during this experience is scout)
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>>165883317
you have a team chat, literally tell them to cover you and absorb the fucking damage, the fact that there are comp players that dont protect meds make me sick.
>>165883232
1 is nice , 2 and 3 are OverUsed and 4 is disgusting.
I would go with 1 but 2 and 3 still are solid choices and as a reccomendation I would replace the converse in 3 for adidas pants or see in which one you can replace the gloves for some pants.
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>>165883232
>Not being Dick Masterson scout
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>>165883232
for free stuff id run number 4 all day
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>>165881780
>>165881948
>>165882023
What really grinds my gears is fighting a Black Box Soldier as a Demo. Just because he has that weapon (or the Concheror) it will take at least three pipes instead of two to kill him and all he has to do to earn that extra is aim vaguely in the direction of literally any of my teammates or me.
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>AMA
>Still no word about TF2 other than "we're working on it :^)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_1tG4eSj0
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>>165884691
Well it wasn't a TF2 AMA was it?
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>>165868410
Kek
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>>165883746
1 is my standard loutout, 2 is for the set, 3 is mess around, and 4 is made of raffle wins.
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>>165882649
Pocket Demoman and Heavies (you won't come across them in comp but anyway) with priority.
Then Soldiers can be both sweeper if you overheal them, or a pocket if they were smart enough to carry a Shotgun.
Scouts are always sweepers and you have to keep them on overheal, if Scouts are not overhealed they can not shoo off other hitters like other Scouts or roamer Soldiers.
>they explosive jump too much and too far away
Tell them to stay with you or follow them with an escort like Scout or a good support (aka Banner) Soldier. A good Demoman should stay with you instead of blast jumping.
>do i keep my distance and wait until another player is close by instead of trying to chase down these faggots?
Sounds fine to me. If you can not make the pocket wait, then hang out with a Scout. Keep him overhealed then chase your pocket after his tail.
>should i drop crossbow in these situations for syringe so i can defend myself?
Nah, Crossbow is too good to drop and spycheck. Use bow at range, melee them if close; simple. Blut is good if you wanna go battle Medic for lulz
>or sacrifice overheal with quickfix at the risk of every other player crying "use a real uber"?
If no one pays you attention, may be you should do it, so at least they remember they have a Medic. Priority for QF must be support (banner- Not B.A.S.E) Soldiers over all else. Better if they're equipped with Air Strike or LL.
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>>165868410
On phone but I did find some
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>>165868410
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>check steam avatar history
>it's full of anime and furry garbage

Kill me
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>>165868410
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>>165868410
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>>165886768
The hat below it was called "the team cap tin."
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>"I think i'll try payload race again"
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>>165886768
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Im surprised they are actually working on an update at all, thought this game was abandoned for good
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>>165887403
I tough campaign was coming alone but no, it seems that is attached to the pyro update.
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>>165885553
i like this image, are there more?
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>>165887403
>thought this game was abandoned for good
literally what could possibly make you think that
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>>165888456
source is written in the filename. I guess he has a profile over at dA
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>we got more answers for tf2 than csgo
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>>165891007
Good. All CSGO people do is complain no matter what happens.
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>>165891116
Yeah i know, im fan of the 3 games (CS, TF2, Dota 2) and i hate csgo fanbase, they are a bunch of cry babies that think his game is better than the others, at least for me it feels like because muh game based on the reality.
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>We would like to have everyone working on games here at Valve to eventually be using the same engine.

So is TF2 being ported to Source2 or abandoned altogether?
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>>165891460
did the number of people who play it take a hit since people can't gamble anymore
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>>165891936
i think not, it looks like people that gamble doesnt play the game
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>>165891863
Team already said there's no plan to port it
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wait where are you guys getting valve's messages from? im not seeing anything on teamfortress.com
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>>165892650
reddit, Gabe AMA
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>>165892650
AMA from gabe on reddit

>>165892632
I really dont get it, they are working on the same games over and over, even dota 2 has an update big enough to make it look like a new game, but no, big update on the same game.
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>>165892864
Because they weren't the original team and have no idea how to work with this retarded engine. Just look at how it utilizes the CPU.
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>tfw team so bad in casual you get top kills as med
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Does anyone use the capper?
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>>165893106
is that the stopwatch timer
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>>165893323
Every trader main
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>>165893580
on the hud?
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>>165893851
yes
i havent played much during the time it was enabled so i dont know what it looked like
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>>165893959
top middle is the time remaining, top left is how long it took them to get 3 points
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>the sniper somehow creates more jars of this
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>>165895132
they're teleported kidney stones
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how do i use the cleaver effectively?
do i initiate fights with it or only use it for long range spam?
it feels impossible to hit anyone with it, its so fucking tiny despite being a fucking cleaver
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>>165895132
>The bread jars have a bigger explosion radius than the regular weapons
>Literally pay to win
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>>165895360
aim better
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>>165892959
back then it was so more people could play it, like how overwatch runs well on toasters right now
now 10 years of additions and particle effects have put a huge strain on multi core cpus
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>>165895654
playing sydney/jarate loadout on upward

deliberately kill nothing (except killing the medic) just covering everyone in jarate. Blues vision is a world of yellow.

"God just STOP IT WITH THE PISS"
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>>165895771
>>165892959
reminder BANG got 60% of the invasion update for doing nothing except add too much props to the maps so 2fort_invasion wouldnt load on a pre 2014 PC
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>>165893760
Damn, so no hope of someone paying a decent amount for my pro kit then.
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>>165896018
2fort_invasion crashes on my pc, the only one from that campaign
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>>165895360
It's a meme weapon
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>>165896663
i refuse to believe that it cant be seriously used
surely someone must have mastered the throw and wrecke absolutely everyone at any range with it
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>friend reccomends server
>it's fucking awful
>pyros ain't doin' shit
>spies allowed to roam rampant
>the chokepoint is just a goddamn funnel with no other way to get to the payload
>there's a sniper on a 20+ killstreak
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>>165895654
actually according to this youtube video the jar travels further than the other jars so it is slightly better

link to video: https://youtu.be/U819YrM4bUU
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>>165901152
The mad milk reskin does the same thing
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>>165901324
I own both and I hope valve never fixes it
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>>165901478
i hope they do just because i think both look like shit
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The more I play this game the more I feel like I should be focusing on my major and discussions about the CIA
Comp tf2 is a joke. Not even 6s is good. And the comp community is cancer

the casual community is autism and the game itself will take years to fix into something playable, and that's WITH the correct feedback for valve

I am just making this post because I feel the need to be validated by other Team fortress 2 players who also use 4chan
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>>165901753
you aren't wrong, but it wont be fixed. team fortress 2 is shit because it makes the game accessible. random crits seem like the worst thing to more experienced players but they serve their purpose; to make skill not the only decider in victory, to ensure nobody is consistently good, to ensure the game remains accessible. competitive mode is just a way to sanction good players off, they don't actually want competitive players playing their game at all because they make the game even more inaccessible
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>>165891863
TF2: Episode One
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>>165893265
>>
>people complain about cosmetics and weapon skins that bloat tf2
>people complain about trade servers and mincraft servers that plague the server browser
>people more often than not just play dm instead of capturing objectives
>tf2c fixes everything by removing cosmetics and adding a proper arena mode for pure dm
>nobody fucking plays it

you have no right to complain anymore
there is a solution for you and you can only blame yourself for not using it
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>>165895360
Aim with the projectile pathing? Don't aim with the center of screen watch where the projectile going.
It's no different than RL or Flare aim as I'm concerned. Search for sketchek's video... or better, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWoA6B9VfQ
Also 90% of the time you equip Guillotine it meant to be paired with Sandman -other than that you have BFB and thrive off DoT-.
How come you can not hit a perfectly stood still target? Land your Sandman shots from longer distances to pin foe down.

>>165901753
All hail b4nny.

>>165881780
_____________________________________________________________No.
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>>165902707
>nobody plays it
>wooow why would you play the TEAM game with players?
sorry mate, it could fix every problem i have with team fortress 2 but i wouldn't play it unless by some phenomenon it had a healthy playerbase. me jumping into the game isn't going to make 11 other people jump in the game either
>>
post yfw you hear a spy decloak behind you
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>>165902969
>nobody plays it
>therefore i wont play it either

you only have yourself to blame

if you played it, someone would have seen you play it and joined too, and someone would have seen them
this is how games work btw
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>>165903167
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im finally back, nothing like waking up with a fucking huge hang over in a friend of a friends house 5 hours away from where you live.
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>>165903378
gun
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>>165903378
I wish i was anything other than alive.
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>>165903378
i <3 geel !!!!!!!!!!
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Am I edgy enough yet?
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>>165903204
no its not, my experience playing quake, tribes, reflex, and every other dead game waiting hours ingame for just one other player proves to me that is futile. if it wasn't futile tf2c would have players now wouldn't it? oh you mean you don't fucking idle in the game for hours? because if you did it would be popular! retard
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>>165903378
Wool over a gimp suit.
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>>165903378
I will suck you off in a public bathroom
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>>165903167
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>>165903676
very good, lets keep going
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>>165901753
It is shit. Valve just made it a thing to try and be like Overwatch, to try and hang on to the last bit of its community, and ended up ruining what made it great in the process.

What I'm saying is: TF2 devs, stop trying to make TF2 what it isn't.

>>165903167
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>>165903807
please be gentle Soldier-kun~
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>>165903807
I will suck you off in a public bathroom, I am a United States senator
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>>165903807
nirvana's bloddy jacket
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>>165903807
I didn't get the EOTL Sweater
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>>165904084
awesome, usually when i do this shit it take forever. ill have another one ready in a second.
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>>165904286
>Inhumane Jarate
T-then, what is it?
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>>165903167
there must be a lot of people that play with music blasting or something that makes these spies think I'm not gonna hear that shit and 180
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alright boys, next one up.
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>>165904349
its me piss bro
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>>165904286
looks pissed
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>>165904389
cunt
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>>165904389
ooAAAGHHH me EAT ROCK &CUMMM
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>>165904389
OwO what's this?
>>
>>165904389
Why do girls only play medic and pyro?
>>
>>165904389
oatrsanyfwtunadmae
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>>165904389
*bangs table**bangs table**bangs table**bangs table*
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>>165904389
*nuzzles up 2 u*
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>>165904389
Stupid asshole bird fuck
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>>165904389
PREGNANT SPIDERMAN vs FROZEN ELSA & SPIDERBABY! Elsa is Doctor!Fun Superhero in Real Life
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>>165904389
>>165904389 i brwos 4chan
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>>165904389
sucked off by gorgeous ebony teen
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>>165904389
Hulk & Spiderman & Captain America VS Doctor! Fun Superhero Movie in Real Life
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>>165904389
mless 0E2AED2
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>>165904389
i only heal scouts
>>
>>165904389
PREGNANT FROZEN ELSA vs SPIDERMAN! Doctor Hulk & Joker & GHOST :)
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>>165904389
how fucking hard is it to get a 5
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>>165904389
Pregnant FROZEN ELSA VAMPIRE ATTACK! w/ Spiderman Joker Maleficent Bad Baby Hulk! Superheroes IRL
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>>165904389
my peanus weanus :)
>>
>>165904389
VAMPIRE Frozen Elsa in JAIL! vs Doctor w/ Spiderman Black Spiderman Mini Frozen Hulk Toys!
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>>165904389
nigger
>>
>>165904389
reminder to turn off cosmetics
>>
>>165904389
add me for real sex
>>
>>165904389
slap my dick and eat my cum
>>
>>165904389
https://www.periscope.tv/MartinShkreli
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>>165903807
Lovers Lab Deathclaw Sex Mod Fallout 4 Download Zip
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>>165904389
youre cum flows to me
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>>165904389
Hulk becomes a GIANT Vampire SPIDER! w/ Frozen Elsa Spiderman Joker Superman Maleficent IRL
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>>165904389
2 jews walk into an oven
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>>165904389
shut the fuck up bitch muted and reported
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>>165886051
ho 2 do that
also
is there a way to check your full name history?
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>>165904389
check my 5
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>>165904389
CModViewDoc* gpLastOpenedModViewDoc = NULL;
void FuckingWellSetTheDocumentNameAndDontBloodyIgnoreMeYouCunt(LPCSTR psDocName)
{
if (gpLastOpenedModViewDoc)
{
// make absolutely fucking sure this bastard does as it's told...
//
gpLastOpenedModViewDoc->SetPathName(psDocName,false);
gpLastOpenedModViewDoc->SetTitle (psDocName);
}
}
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>>165904389
I get names from 4chan like a fag
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>>165903378
*eats microphone* ABAUGHHUVBRGN
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>>165904389
1-[(0.xx^#)(0.yy)(0.zz)]
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>>165904389
>>165904389
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>>165904389
i = * ( long * ) &y; // evil floating point bit level hacking
i = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 ); // what the fuck?
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>>165905795
fuck how do i even make all of that fit
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>>165905795
fuck that took forever
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>>165905795
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root#Overview_of_the_code
>>
new tf2 player here, how do i get more items? which gametypes should i be playing? what things should i buy?
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>>165905795
>>165905854
here i guess, tried to make it fit. round two boys
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>>165905994
Buy them all from the in-game store, best prices.
>>
>looking through friends that unadded me
>See names that I didn't realize, I thought they've just been offline for a while
>heart sinks

>>165905994
turn back now because the game is shit
>>
>>165906003
nyoro~n
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>>165906056
don't do this. play the game, it will randomly drop items. expectedly, most of those items will be shit, so just trade those items at a trade site like scrap.tf. you will have to buy something from the store to be able to trade though as it will give you premium. i recommend clicking the "try weapon" option, and then buying a weapon for 75 cents (as the trial makes it 25 percent cheaper) and that will give you premium. other than that fuck the steam store, don't waste your money on the shitty one time use mann vs machine passes or anything else
>>
>>165906003
John Romero's about to make you his bitch
>>
>>165905994
you get weapon drops while playing, which has a weekly limit that resets thursday

buy nothing from the ingame store, the prices are ridiculous. unless you want to go premium for trading or whatever, then you can test run a wep and buy it at a discount just to upgrade yourself
>>
>>165906003
i grow cocks
my cocks grow
>>
>>165906003
Higher Algebra is for nerds, anyways.
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>>165906003
grab JUICY GAY COCK
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>>165906402
nice, very good
>>165906432
almost
ill probably do one more for tonight and call it good
>>
>>165906003
Manly Bearded Birds Are STRONG
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ok boys, lets do it. last one for today i swear.
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>>165906775
For sale: baby shoes, never worn
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>>165906775
Santa's Sock of Holding
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Festive Jarate or Self Aware Beauty Mark?
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>>165907324
Self Aware Beauty Mark
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>>165907324
self aware beauty mark unless you have a fetish for festives
>>165906775
portible dildo hauling sack
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>>165907402
>>165907414
The reason I dislike the beauty mark is that it uses the melee stance and clips right into the snipers hand
>>
>>165907508
yea but>>165901152
>>
>>165907508
Festive Jarate for you then
>>
>>165906775
why did valve invent tiered cosmetics?
>>
>>165907654
Artificial value
>>
>>165906775
i took a dump in this sock
>>
>>165906775

>>165906865
this desu
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>>165907654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFxVmYXr-s0
>>
>>165906775
Merry fucking christmas!
>>
>>165906775

this
>>165906865
>>
>>165906775
There's a rocket in my boot!
>>
>>165906775
ded gaem xD
>>
>>165906775
>>165906865
rerolling for this well read madman
>>
>>165906775

reroll
>>165906865
>>
>>165906775
>>165906865
name it this pls
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>>165909593
aw ye thanks mang
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>>165906865
>>165909593
persistence pays off, ill post this one and head off to bed. If someone gets it ill be sure to post the results as soon as i wake up.
>>
>>165909849
Two hands handjob between the crib bars
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>>165909849
Bitch had an abortion
>>
>>165910000
Im jealous
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>>165910000
Goddamn, son
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>>165910000
jesus ok, hold on give me a second.
here we go, now i get to figuer out what this shit means
>>
>>165910152
I think it's supposed to imply miscarriage, but it's funny nonetheless
>>
>>165910152
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_sale:_baby_shoes,_never_worn
oh ok cool, its always fun to find out what you fags are naming my shit.
>>
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For Sale: Volcano Fragment, Never Used
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>>165907654
to keep the really weird looking, gaudy shit uncommon
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>tfw you alway used to be able to count on a friendly sniper putting you out
>tfw every battle had at least a couple of enemies taking mini-crits
>now every sniper uses the DDS

When will the DDS be nerfed so the Jarate can reclaim the limelight?
>>
>>165912413
Jarate should also be nerfed. The splash radius is the size of a parking lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYZbyUK170

There's basically no way to dodge it 99% of the time, and dodging is the only counterplay that exists to Jarate.
>>
>>165912713
Are you high?

The splash radius is tiny. If you hit someone with it you normally won't even hit a medic right behind him.

Also you can counter Jarate. Healing from medics and dispensers gets rid of it faster. A spy cloaking gets rid of it faster. Jumping in water gets rid of it instantly. A pyro airblasting the jar back. The short circuit. A resupply cabinet, ect ect
>>
>>165912713
Jarate is affected by more than just the splash radius. It won't hit anyone you can't see most of for example. Its also affected by slopes, walls, barriers and tonnes of other things. You won't get full splash radius anywhere but a perfectly flat bit of ground without any cover
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>>165912713
>Jarate needs a nerf
>No way to counter it

Babys first day on TF2
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>>165912713
>I want sniper to have even less chance to be a team player
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>>165912849
>The splash radius is tiny
Did you watch the fucking video or not?
>If you hit someone with it you normally won't even hit a medic right behind him
Here let me give you another video because you're so blind.
https://youtu.be/gKUB1ylZx-4?t=43
Look where the Jarate fucking lands.
And again:
https://youtu.be/xryYl25EzDI?t=52
>>165913453
okay anon how do you counter jarate
you can't dodge it
you can only remove it through healing and Medics can't self heal

There's a good fucking reason that all 6s leagues ban it

>calling me a babby when it was unanimous decision across all 6s leagues to ban it for being cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2XGLaBG1s4

btw I have 3000 hrs

>>165913508
I want Sniper to have a chance to be a team player With Counterplay.
>>
>>165912413
>>165913453
reflecting a jarate back at a sniper and his surrounding fuckbois then killing them all with mini crit fire is the ultimate humiliation
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>>165913692
>6s leagues ban it so it MUST be bad!

Nigga, they ban literally everything that isn't a gun and a lot of things that are. 6s leagues do not like status effects
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>>165913692
>two more videos of the Jarate in perfectly open areas
>completely ignores this post >>165913230

Biased much?
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>>165913692
>okay anon how do you counter jarate
>you can't dodge it
>you can only remove it through healing and Medics can't self heal

>>165912849

>and dispensers gets rid of it faster. A spy cloaking gets rid of it faster. Jumping in water gets rid of it instantly. A pyro airblasting the jar back. The short circuit. A resupply cabinet, ect ect

Are you blind?
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>>165913692
I think you need to leave
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>>165913692
>the jar is op now
Holy fuck, now Ive seen everything
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>>165913692
Yes, in the perfect conditions for the weapon, it does well.
Nice job, Sherlock
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>>165913692
>6s leagues
>knowing anything
>ban any new weapon instantly because they are scared of new things and must protect mah meta
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>>165913989
>Nigga, they ban literally everything that isn't a gun and a lot of things that are
literally wrong, they ban approximately 20 weapons; out of the 150 they don't ban, many of them are non-guns (sandvich, targe, etc)

You don't know shit
>>165914156
>and dispensers gets rid of it faster.
Rare to have a dispenser nearby in time to save you from Jarate
>A spy cloaking gets rid of it faster.
Rare to be Spy unless you're playing a pub, he's an offclass
>Jumping in water gets rid of it instantly.
Super fucking rare for swimmable-depth water to be present, there are only like 5 PvP maps that have it
>A pyro airblasting the jar back.
rare to be Pyro unless you're playing a pub, he's an offclass
>The short circuit
a banned, cancerous unlock which totally shuts down Soldiers and Demos and causes lengthy stalemates, hopefully on its way to further nerfing

>Are you blind?

No, but you clearly are. You said "If you hit someone with it you normally won't even hit a medic right behind him" and that's been proven conclusively wrong
>>165913230
1: It doesn't have to be "perfectly flat bit of ground without any cover". A small height variation will not stop the whole splash. Observe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7whwUtdA7E
Jarate will work on slopes.
2: Plenty of TF2 maps have large flat bits of ground without any cover. Process mid has many large flat areas for example. Viaduct's whole point is extremely exposed to Jarate.

Jarate's splash works the same way as an explosion from a rocket does, yet is significantly larger than that of an explosion.
>>165914209
I think you got BTFO
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>>165905994
Don't play sniper and spy. It's all you should know.
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>>165914709
>>ban any new weapon instantly because they are scared of new things and must protect mah meta
except that's factually untrue
http://comp.tf/wiki/6v6_Global_Whitelist
~20 out of 170 banned. 150 left unbanned
>>165914512
try not being such a newfag then
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>>165914712
>all 6s leagues ban the Jarate
>they also hardly ever have things that counter Jarate
>"Heres why its OP in 6s where both it and the shit that counters it are banned"

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>165914712
>talking about 6s
What the fuck? You've just countered your own argument by saying everything that deals with the jar is either banned or uncommon in 6s and thats why its OP.
Your retarded game mode is the fucking problem
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>>165914712
Suck b8 m8 8/8 thats gr8
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>>165914828
>>they also hardly ever have things that counter Jarate
Okay sorry let me FURTHER explain why you're retarded

If you're playing TF2 you can't magically be running Pyro and Spy all the time in the eventuality that the enemy might decide to run Jarate.

Medic cannot magically morph into a Pyro or Spy or Short Circuit Engineer at the first sign of a Jarate jar flying towards them. Understand?

You
Are
Fucking
Retarded
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>>165914712
>>165914773
I just headbutted my fucking desk
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>>165914960
>>165914905
>>165914954
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>>165914960
>every class has to be able to counter everything
>a pub without a pyro, medic or engie or water or heathpacks
Just stop.
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>>165914997
Good maybe you'll bash some fucking sense into yourself, retard

keep going for a trifecta
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>>165914960
You have issues mate
Seek help
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This is why Valve doesn't listen to the community.

Some people actually think the Jarate is OP
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>>165915104
I thought it was just b4nny that had this mindset
I guess its all 6s fags
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>>165915070
>>every class has to be able to counter everything
Video games have counterplay or they may as well be movies you dumb fucking retard this is why I am saying give Jarate a splash radius that can actually be dodged

It shouldn't be hard for you to understand, but apparently you were dropped at birth
>>a pub without a pyro, medic or engie or water or heathpacks
Medics can't heal themselves fuckwit
Engineers don't carry Dispensers with them and they don't all run Short Cancer either
Pyros aren't even guaranteed to reflect the jar if lag intervenes, and you wouldn't be running Pyro in a serious game of TF2 anyway because it's a Shit Class

You are RETARDED please KILL YOURSELF
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>>165915267
Have you actually ever played TF2?
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>>165915303
Yes, evidently you haven't though since you fail to understand the most basic fucking gameplay concept
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>>165915267
>you wouldn't be running Pyro in a serious game of TF2 anyway because it's a Shit Class

But we have already established that in 6s Jarate is banned and so is the stuff that counters it so why the ever loving FUCK do you keep going on about "Serious games of TF2"?
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>>165915267
Heres the counterplay for Jarate

1. Don't get hit
2. Don't get shot
3. Get healed in any way
4. Find water
5. Be near a good Pyro
6. Run away

If you are unable to do any of that then you probably should not have been where you were
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I bet this guy is a Scunt main who overextends constantly so the idea of being near his team is a weird concept
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any good whitelist drama in here?
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>>165915362
>But we have already established that in 6s Jarate is banned and so is the stuff that counters it
Yes, and then he moved the goalposts to pubs, so I addressed pubs, are you dense?

>so why the ever loving FUCK do you keep going on about "Serious games of TF2"?

Because the game played seriously is what you balance around, you insipid sniveling newfag

You don't balance around 3 friendly LE XD HOOVIES XD standing around throwing food, unless you're missing the contents of your skull, which I'm beginning to strongly suspect you are
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>>165915540
>Because the game played seriously is what you balance around, you insipid sniveling newfag
We are reaching stupid levels that should not be possible.

I'm sure thats why they added a shove to the Shortstop and added the Panic Attack
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>>165915540
>this is the delusion of 6s fags
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>>165915672
please dont think all 6s players are lobbylords
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>>165915730
Its too late
This guy has convinced me that all 6s players are edgy scout mains named Killer_Wolf69XXX who play nothing by Tf2center all day
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>>165915462
>Don't get hit
Almost impossible since as already demonstrated its splash radius is fucking enormous, is twice the size of a regular explosion and applies its full effects no matter how far you are from the epicenter, and you don't have to be anywhere near the actual visuals to get hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYZbyUK170
https://youtu.be/gKUB1ylZx-4?t=43
https://youtu.be/xryYl25EzDI?t=52
>Don't get shot
what is hitscan
>Get healed in any way
No, only Continuous Healing will remove jarate, newfag. Health packs won't remove it, self-heal won't remove it, regen won't remove it, Crossbow arrows won't remove it. And if you get shot before the healing source has finished removing the Jarate, you're fucked anyway
>Find *swimmable water
Which is only present on a few maps out of the whole, and then only in specific spots in said maps. What do you do if you're on the other side of the map to the water source? What do you do if you're on a map with no water source? Arguing water counters it is sheer retardation
>Be near a good Pyro

>good
>Pyro

>Run away
So you're saying a weapon is balanced because you can run away? Seriously???? You know this is an objective-based game right? There isn't the fucking leisure to run away when you're defending a control point

>If you are unable to do any of that then you probably should not have been where you were
see above.

No. Here's the real counterplay for Jarate:

1: Nerf the retardedly large radius to the size of a rocket explosion

Now your point 1) is an actually feasible option because it's not the size of the fucking moon

See this would be obvious to anyone with more than ten hours in TF2 but obviously none of you have so much as touched the game

It's not that fucking hard

Nerf the splash and it will actually take skill and be fair, then it can come off the banlist
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>>165915882
Gonna stop replying to this mental retardation now
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>>165915641
I never said Valve was competent at balance you dribbling shit. Otherwise Bison never would have been nerfed
>>165915791
Actually Sniper is one of my favourite classes. I just want the whole game to be balanced and Jarate is clearly not balanced as it does not have adequate counterplay

90% of the things you people are listing, like water, good pyros, and dispensers, are not present in the middle of a fight 90% of the time
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I can't even with this 6sfag
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>be banned from creating lobbies
>give a friend a serveme.tf reservation to have him make a lobby
>mfw now completely banned from tf2center for "using an alt"
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>>165915984
So you're going to stop replying to yourself? When did you start?
>>165916013
>>>>>>>>/tumblr/
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12137284
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i would reduce the splash radius of jarate to make it more balanced desu
i also would reduce the damage bonus on direct hit so that it can't one-shot kill 125hp classes in short range, or maybe just sete a fixed max damage it can do, like 110
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>>165916195
>you're wrong because X people disagree with you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
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Is competitive fun and worth going premium guys?

I need a break from cs:go.
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>>165916682
if you live in America, yes
if you live in Europe, maybe
if you live in any other country, no
the playerbase is very small
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>>165916476
>I am the only one who is right
Holy shit, this god complex
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>>165916682
comp MM is not fun and last time i played it took 20 minutes just to find a match
for real comp you rely on 3rd party sites

playcomp.tf
tf2center.com (low skill / starting point)
tf2stadium.com (less populated)
mix.champ.gg (medium skill)
pug.champ.gg (high skill)

teamfortress.tv/servers
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>>165916712
>you must have a god complex if you think you won that argument, after I totally failed to respond with any counterarguments
lol
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>>165916783
The fact you think you won after having your shakey, rambling argument demolished is amazing
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stop it guys, this is getting silly
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>>165916909
but there was no "demolishing" lol
you just said you weren't going to respond any more, then left while sooking

it's all just a short scroll up for anyone who wants to see it, I don't know why you're bothering to lie but it's really quite funny
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Sniper only won because the splash damage was too big and all his counters are banned.

The BLU Spy was unfairly beaten
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>>165917045
>implying you were not just recycling old arguments
>implying everyone who called you retarded is the same person
>implying feeding the troll is getting me anywhere
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>>165917124
arguments that still haven't been countered
multiple people disagreeing with something doesn't make it wrong
i'm not trolling just because you can't argue your way out of a wet paper bag
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>>165917162
No, you are trolling due to your continued arguments that Jarate is OP in 6s even though it is banned from 6s and the entire reason its OP in the first place is the 6s game mode
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>he still thinks its op
>he thinks everyone but him is wrong
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>>165917206
>due to your continued arguments that Jarate is OP in 6s even though it is banned from 6s
that sentence doesn't make any sense, it's the other way around.

It being banned in 6s is part of my argument that it's OP, and I'm saying it's OP in the whole game

>and the entire reason its OP in the first place is the 6s game mode
it's OP in general, as my arguments have shown

it has insufficient counterplay and gives sniper a large advantage

if the splash was smaller and players could feasibly dodge it, it'd be balanced
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>>165917254
>>165916476
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>165917271
Whatever. Gonna stop feeding you (You)'s now, b4nny. Your arguments have merely shown yourself to be a lobbylord scout main with little actual TF2 experience.
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>>165917317
>unironicly linking wikipedia articles as arguments
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i hate idiots
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This is fetting sad now.
This is the future of 6's.
I weep.
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>>165917320
nice failure to counter my argument, retard
>>165917343
>unironically using "slightly more people disagree with you within the /vg/ thread so you're wrong" as an argument
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>>165917271
>it's OP in the whole game
but you've been told multiple times that there are a bunch of fucking things in highlander and pubs that can very easily counter jarate, you just hide behind the
>pyro mains
meme because it's a legitimate hole in your argument. a pyro can reflect the rocket speed projectile coming towards your team indicated by the loud ass "BOMBS AWAY" or "JARATE" scream that comes from the enemy sniper. in pub play where no weapons are banned, consider that the sniper is sacrificing the use of the razorback and the danger shield, both of which are banned in highlander if we're going to be using that argument. there's always going to be a medic in highlander, and if your dipshit medic is peeking sniper sightlines then jarate is the last thing he has to worry about, not to mention in pub play there could be more than one medic to offset the fact that medics can't self-heal to reduce the jarate effect, same goes for engineers. basically, in highlander and pub play, there are a lot of things to counter jarate.
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JARATE!
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>>165917540
>defending Pyros
Laughing at you desu
How can a medic even avoid the Jarate when its splash is the size of a whale?
Try again, newfag
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>>165917540
>but you've been told multiple times that there are a bunch of fucking things in highlander and pubs that can very easily counter jarate
And you've already been told that those are not available for five out of nine classes, and in the majority of fights will not be there at the time when you NEED them to counter Jarate
If you're out on the frontline in a pub and the jarate jar gets splashed on you, there's not going to be a fucking dispenser, there's never going to be a short circuit engineer with sc at the ready, a competent Pyro isn't going to materialize out of nowhere to get a reflect jar for you; maybe if you're super lucky there'll be a Medic there (spread thin in a 12 person pub where he's probably pocketing someone), but the Jarate takes time to remove (healing only reduces the duration from 10 to 7 seconds, which is more than enough time to get fucked up by a minicrit meatshot or projectile), and the Medic is just going to get raped too since he can't get jarate off himself.

None of these things """""easily""""" counter Jarate, they are all highly situational and in Pyro's case subject to the whim of lag as well

>not to mention in pub play there could be more than one medic
oh yeah that's SO likely anon, and it's also SUPER likely that they would both be in the same place when they get splashed by jarate. And as already mentioned, Medigun healing doesn't even remove Jarate instantly, it only reduces the duration to 7 seconds, enough time for both Medics to die to a no-falloff 135% damage rocket

>sacrificing the use of the razorback and the danger shield
You're justifying the Jarate by saying that Sniper gives up DDS to get it? Like DDS is some kind of well-balanced unlock? Fucking lmao

also:
>Highlander
Even among Highlander players on UGC forums I've seen significant levels of complaint about how broken Jarate is and talk of having it banned

Jarate should be nerfed so it actually has counterplay in the average gameplay situation
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>>165917991
>you just hide behind the
>>pyro mains
>meme because it's a legitimate hole in your argument.
i'm going to say that again under the assumption that you're really stupid and didn't catch on to what i was saying.
>How can a medic even avoid the Jarate when its splash is the size of a whale?
yes, you're definitely stupid. ok, put yourself in this scenario. you are a sniper and the medic is rolling up, he's in your sightline. do you
A: just fucking headshot him
B: throw a jar of pee on him and just kind of hope that your teammates can take care of it for you, which is fucking impossible in pub games by the way. let us also factor in situations where the medic will be able to leave your line of sight after the pee has been thrown, for instance if you are standing on the hill near the first point of upward and the medic is heading for the tunnel.
C: run at him with your melee. i put this option here because you're clearly not very intelligent and i'm pretty sure this looks like a legitimate option to you.
reading comprehension and headshots are your friends.
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>>165917584
>step 2
>aim
>>165918209
>you are a sniper and the medic is rolling up, he's in your sightline
nigger the Jarate is an arcing projectile. You dont fucking need to even have the Medic in your sightline to cover him in piss. You weren't going to headshot him in that situation anyway
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>>165918142
>And you've already been told that those are not available for five out of nine classes
you know what's not available for 8 out of 9 classes? airblast. i guess that means soldier is OP and that we have to ban him from 6's since no other class can counter rockets.
>If you're out on the frontline in a pub and the jarate jar gets splashed on you
why are you overextending
why are you within a sniper's range to throw the piss when he could have very easily just headshot you
if you are within that range why isn't the sniper dead
the sniper isn't going to throw some hail mary jarate because "oh look there's a guy there, better make it so that maybe someone else can deal with it" no he's going to fucking shoot you. most snipers only use jarate when they're already cornered or when there's a large cluster of people standing on one point, which puts them at a disadvantage because they're now within range of an entire pissed off enemy team.
>there's not going to be a fucking dispenser
what is koth where a dispenser is almost always available right at the front lines
what is payload where the fucking objective is a mobile dispenser and you are guaranteed to have an engineer
>a competent Pyro isn't going to materialize out of nowhere
nothing is stopping you from being the competent pyro. if a sniper is pissing you and your team off with jarate, fucking do something about it yourself, don't ask the devs to make the game cater to you because you don't want to play a class that counters something fucking with your team.
>healing only reduces the duration from 10 to 7 seconds
keep in mind you are being healed though, which is to say you're recovering the damage already dealt to you in that time or getting overheal to tank any more damage. if a scout is overextending to the combo to get one guy covered in pee, he's stupid and also dead.
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comp TF2 used to be like 90% vanilla and nobody complained
why is there such a strong divide between pubbies and compis now ? did the F2P update cause this rupture ?
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>>165918142
>oh yeah that's SO likely anon, and it's also SUPER likely that they would both be in the same place when they get splashed by jarate.
anecdotal evidence but i see multiple medics grouping up in pubs all the damn time. it's extraordinarly effective. i think you're just falling for the "no one plays medic in pubs" meme
>You're justifying the Jarate by saying that Sniper gives up DDS to get it? Like DDS is some kind of well-balanced unlock? Fucking lmao
>putting the words "DDS" and "well-balanced" in the same sentence
i'm saying it because it's unbalanced. the sniper has access to what is probably the single most overpowered item in the entire game that has maybe one counter in the form of the spy. he can actually tank more damage from explosives thanks to the health boost, he has 25 more health, plus potential overheal, to deal with fire damage, and bullet resistance. it is the most evil item in the entire game and sniper has access to it, and you're bitching that the fucking jarate is unbalanced? fuck off with that.
>Even among Highlander players on UGC forums I've seen significant levels of complaint about how broken Jarate is and talk of having it banned
makes you wonder why they haven't banned it then. maybe because it's not op at all and people are just bitching.

>>165918314
>don't have medic in your sightline
>can't see medic
>somehow know exactly where he is
>throw hail mary piss
>wait for teammates to clean up
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>>165918642
>i guess that means soldier is OP and that we have to ban him from 6's since no other class can counter rockets
Rockets have splash that is actually dodgeable and not the size of a truck you Dumb Fucking Nigger

This is why I am saying Jarate should have splash the size of rockets. Then it would be just as balanced as the Soldier that you're bringing up as your argument.
>why are you within a sniper's range to throw the piss
it's not a fucking melee attack you retard? it's a throwable projectile with the biggest splash effect in the game
>when he could have very easily just headshot you
Headshots don't work over obstacles and around corners, Jarate's planet-sized splash does
I'm going to remind you until you finally get it in your pea sized brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYZbyUK170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYZbyUK170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYZbyUK170
>what is koth where a dispenser is almost always available right at the front lines
again, dispensers only reduce the duration to 7 seconds
>nothing is stopping you from being the competent pyro
Your ideal counterplay to Jarate is everyone maining Pyro for the rest of their lives? Are you a nigger because I'm detecting very low IQ from you right now
> don't ask the devs to make the game cater to you
I'm not you dumb fuck I'm asking for COUNTERPLAY
A projectile that can actually be dodged=COUNTERPLAY
>keep in mind you are being healed though
can be said about literally any weapon

I am ingame in a Badwater pub right now playing as Sniper w/Jarate
Nobody is reflecting it
Nobody is getting it healed off them
Nobody is going into water (because there is 0)
People are getting hit by my Jarate and they are dying
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>>165919171
>Headshots don't work over obstacles and around corners
What is lag compensation
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>>165918142
Question:
Why does everyone need to be able to counter everything?
If everyone could instantly counter Jarate it would be underpowered. If everyone could instantly counter the buff banner then why charge it up? Why bother with anything but stock becausr everyone can instantly counter status effects
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>>165919171
Jarate doesn't work around corners. It has a line of sight component
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>>165919171
Congrats on being able to use Jarate well.
Stop bragging please
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>>165919171
>being this much of a racist
Are you 12?
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>>165919350
The LoS check is between the enemy players and the epicenter, to prevent being splashed through a wall
Learn to english
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>>165919310
Oh my God you dumb fuck

I'm not saying "counter" as in "every class should be able to make Jarate totally ineffective by existing"
I'm saying "counterPLAY", as in you can actually fight back against something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRBcjsOt0_g
don't bitch about the source, it was the only one I could find, and you're the one who didn't know the word

The standard counterplay in FPS is dodging. Jarate's splash is too big to be dodged, this makes it OP at all levels of play and that it why it should be reduced
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>>165919560
>Jarate's splash is too big to be dodged, this makes it OP at all levels of play and that it why it should be reduced

False. Dodging Jarate is as easy as hiding behind something or moving out of the way of the sniper.

Also it is not op in Pubs or Highlander, as diccused before.
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>>165919350
look at the pic and please PLEASE stop being so retarded
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>>165919714
>6s fags
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>>165919171
>splash that is actually dodgeable and not the size of a truck you Dumb Fucking Nigger
yes, please post those same videos a few more times actually, i don't think we saw them the first 6 times of jarate working perfectly in an impossible to replicate environment. here's a video that showcases my case for why jarate is actually underpowered and needs a buff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBBaOL3Fj1k
>it's not a fucking melee attack you retard? it's a throwable projectile with the biggest splash effect in the game
>Headshots don't work over obstacles and around corners, Jarate's planet-sized splash does
what is this fucking make believe world you live in where snipers just throw jarate willy nilly and not in moments where
>a teammate is on fire
>there's a cloaked spy nearby
>there's someone getting within dangerously close range of them
>there's a very large cluster of people
are you playing with shitters who just got the jarate and throw it at the first person they see every single time?
>again, dispensers only reduce the duration to 7 seconds
regardless you're now taking cover and getting healed behind your teams lines so what's the problem here
>Your ideal counterplay to Jarate is everyone maining Pyro for the rest of their lives? Are you a nigger because I'm detecting very low IQ from you right now
ok now you're being retarded on purpose. there's no fucking way you could have interpreted what i said as "everyone should main pyro and always hold down mouse 2." let me spell it out for you really clearly.

IF A SNIPER IS CAUSING YOUR TEAM TROUBLE BECAUSE HE IS USING THE JARATE, YOU CAN, YOURSELF, TAKE ACTION AGAINST IT BY GOING PYRO AND REFLECTING IT AWAY.
there's your fucking counterplay you absolute imbecile.
or hey, here's an idea, how about move out of the way. because in your imaginary world where snipers lob jarate at the first person they see from any distance, you'll have a good amount of time to get out of the fucking way.
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>>165919794
>or hey, here's an idea, how about move out of the way. because in your imaginary world where snipers lob jarate at the first person they see from any distance, you'll have a good amount of time to get out of the fucking way.

His massive ego is weighing him down
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>>165919714
>sniper either magically knows medic is behind a corner and throws jarate in the vain hope it might hit him, or has been chasing the medic and didn't think to shoot him before he ran around a corner in a straight fucking line.
do you happen to play sniper at all because these imaginary scenarios do not happen
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>>165919653
>False. Dodging Jarate is as easy as hiding behind something
>Sniper throws it next to it or behind it
see >>165919714
>Also it is not op in Pubs or Highlander, as diccused before
Except I already showed you that it is, and rebutted every argument you brought up. Nice spelling
>>165918903
>anecdotal evidence but i see multiple medics grouping up in pubs all the damn time
very anecdotal lol
anyway medics only reduce jarate from 10 seconds to 7 seconds, as I have said about 80 times now
> it is the most evil item in the entire game and sniper has access to it, and you're bitching that the fucking jarate is unbalanced?
YES
BOTH WEAPONS ARE IMBALANCED
one weapon being OP does not mean other weapons can't be, you fucking mongoloid dipshit
>makes you wonder why they haven't banned it then
it took them years to even deal with Razorback. The admin is female and mains Sniper
>can't see medic
>somehow know exactly where he is
How fucking bad at this game are you
poking out heal beams, the fact that it's where they usually stand, maybe he popped out for a second, there's thousands of dead giveaways as to the location of a Medic
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>>165919961
>Except I already showed you that it is, and rebutted every argument you brought up.

Being racist and insisting you are right is not a rebuttal
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>>165919961
Post your steam account
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>>165919961
>see >>165919714
your picture is fucking retarded, no one's going to take a turbine game seriously.
>Except I already showed you that it is, and rebutted every argument you brought up. Nice spelling
no, every single time someone says that jarate is not op, you just fling the same fucking video at them like it proves something. how about videos that don't take place in fucking test tubes.
>anyway medics only reduce jarate from 10 seconds to 7 seconds, as I have said about 80 times now
that's three more seconds to kill a sniper as an overhealed literally any class. run up to him as scout now that he has no secondary for the next 30 fucking seconds, bomb him as a soldier, you fucking act like he can throw jarate like it's a x10 server for fuck's sake.
>one weapon being OP does not mean other weapons can't be, you fucking mongoloid dipshit
except one of them is not op, i already showed you that it isn't, and rebutted every argument you brought up
>The admin is female
i literally don't know why you'd bring this up
>poking out heal beams, the fact that it's where they usually stand, maybe he popped out for a second, there's thousands of dead giveaways as to the location of a Medic
so in those situations, where the medic is almost in my sights, you expect snipers to throw their piss and give away their position, when positioning is one of the most important aspects of sniper play, in the hopes that someone else will deal with it, jumping into a cluster of overhealed players within 7 seconds to maybe get some kills while you are left without a secondary for the next 30 seconds. when you could just wait and shoot the medic.
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>>165919961
>racist AND sexist
What an edgy fuck you are
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>>165919790
>pubbies cucks
>>165919794
>in an impossible to replicate environment
as already explained before,
>video
you don't count bugs into balance, retard
the Jarate was balanced with a large splash and that's what makes it OP
you'll also notice that he STILL gets someone with it too LMAO
>what is this fucking make believe world you live in where snipers just throw jarate willy nilly
I never said they did idiot
>regardless you're now taking cover and getting healed behind your teams lines so what's the problem here
because that could be used to call any weapon (such as crit-a-cola) not OP? Because being forced to retreat takes you off the objective and can lose you the game? Because there ISN'T always an Engineer? Because you're a fucking moron?
>IF A SNIPER IS CAUSING YOUR TEAM TROUBLE BECAUSE HE IS USING THE JARATE, YOU CAN, YOURSELF, TAKE ACTION AGAINST IT BY GOING PYRO AND REFLECTING IT AWAY
let me again explain my argument since you appear to be allergic to reading comprehension
YOU CANNOT MAGICALLY CHANGE CLASSES ON THE FLY. "JUST CHANGE CLASS LMAO" IS NOT AN ADEQUATE FORM OF COUNTERPLAY. PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO PLAY YOUR SHITTY FURFAG CLASS ALL THE TIME JUST TO STOP AN OP WEAPON
>how about move out of the way
How about, here's a fucking idea, we just make the weapon BALANCED
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>>165920496
>YOU CANNOT MAGICALLY CHANGE CLASSES ON THE FLY.

So you are complaining about just being covered in the piss even if you haven't died to it?
Because dying lets you change class.
If the sniper is covering you with no follow up then there is literally no problem
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>>165920496
>scout main lobby lord who thinks beiing racist and sexist is funny and won't change classes to deal with a problem

Yeah, why should I listen to your opinions again?
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>>165920496
>you don't count bugs into balance, retard
you also don't count impossible to replicate environments into balance, retard. fuck off, your video is garbage and meaningless.
>I never said they did idiot
fuck off, every single scenario you present is ludicrous and could only result from people throwing it at random.
>Because being forced to retreat takes you off the objective and can lose you the game?
EVERY WEAPON THAT DEALS DAMAGE DOES THAT
>let me again explain my argument since you appear to be allergic to reading comprehension
>I'M A SCOUT MAIN AND I DON'T WANNA PLAY PYRO, I'M TOO GOOD FOR IT, B4NNY SAID IT WAS AN EASY CLASS, VALVE SHOULD JUST CATER TO ME SO I DON'T HAVE TO PLAY IT
also everything this guy said >>165920645
>How about, here's a fucking idea, we just make the weapon BALANCED
not a real argument
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>>165920420
>your picture is fucking retarded, no one's going to take a turbine game seriously
"W-WAHH PLEASE SPOONFEED ME"
Now shut the fuck up since you have no argument left on that point and you know I am right
> how about videos that don't take place in fucking test tubes.
I already showed you https://youtu.be/gKUB1ylZx-4?t=43 at least once prior, you dumb blind fuck
>that's three more seconds to kill a sniper as an overhealed literally any class
You can die to minicrit rockets in 2 seconds and you're marked for 7 seconds. Let's not forget that minicrits are what balance Escape Plan and GRU being active.
>and rebutted every argument you brought up
what a fucking joke, you didn't do that at all
>where the medic is almost in my sights, you expect snipers to throw their piss and give away their position, when positioning is one of the most important aspects of sniper play, in the hopes that someone else will deal with it
It works on every enemy not just Medics, and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7whwUtdA7E
>>165920645
How fucking dumb ARE you?

If you get killed with no chance at counterplay that's a badly designed weapon. The fact you can change class AFTER you die does not at all retroactively balance the fact you died to undodgeable, uncounterable bullshit

And not everyone wants to play bloody Pyro; that's the point of game balance so you don't have to play shit you don't want to

If you were in charge of game balance we'd all still be dealing with post-buff Baby Face's Blaster because "DUDE LMAO JUST LIKE CHANGE CLASS TO ENGINEER LMAO EVERYONE SHOULD BE ENGINEER LOL"

>>165920702
I don't give a fuck what you think, you're never leaving a pub and probably have sub 100 hours, and even if you had more, you're still a fucking retard whiny tumblrina to boot

Goodnight anons, hope you choke on all that cum you're inhaling. You got fucking demolished
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Jarate is OP because it makes teamwork at least 35% more effective, and teamwork in competitive is much more prominent than in pubs. Anyone hit by it will get focused by anyone nearby
On the other hand, TF2 has been balanced towards pub play, where it's a miracle if you can get two people on a point at the same time. There, being covered in jarate isn't a death sentence unless you were already engaged in a team fight
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>>165920986
>you're still a fucking retard whiny tumblrina to boot
>being a decent person makes you a tumblrina

>You got fucking demolished
Saying it does not make it true

Stay mad
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>>165920986
that video is an even worse example. he hits one heavy and then nothing fucking comes of it, congrats, retard, you just wasted your secondary on nothing. how is this weapon a problem to you?
that second video doesn't help your case either. hey, a weapon is more effective when you have a team calling out positions? who would have guessed?
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how many people still queue for 6v6 in valve's mm? does it still force video settings? is faceit any popular?
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>>165922126
i'll see around 30-80 people queuing up whenever i try during midday
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>>165922319
rip
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>>165922380
it could be worse, i get good ping and i'm reliably put into a server in no more than a minute or so
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A photographer took pictures of a Sniper and a Heavy before and after Jarate was thrown
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>practicing huntsman on 5gorge
>fighting on mid
>see a scout going though the left path
>fire at exit and headshot him
>demo coming up from the bottom
>hit him at the top of the stairs
>headshot another scout running across the point
>finally headshot a sniper coming out of the top room

>never hit another shot all game

Why random bursts of skill?
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>>165923109
>land impossible headshots for a solid minute and a half
>rest of the game bullets suddenly zoom through peoples fucking heads without hitting them
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>land impossible headshots all game
>get vanned
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>Hacker on the other team
>Obvious wallhack but plays cautiously as to not give himself away
>Gets called out on it
>After denying for a few minutes he just camps our spawn from half a mile away as ambassador spy while hiding in a tree
>Still denies everything
It's not like i wanted to have fun or anything
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>>165903167
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>>165903167
More juice for my Ãœbersaw
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>>165903167
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>>165923945
every time
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>>165923109
>practicing huntsman
stopped reading here
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>>165926676
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Stopped reading there
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stopped reading
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>reading
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>2017
>still acting like the huntsman is a problem
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>>165903167
Thanks for the extra kill on my strange weapon, Mr. Spy.
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rate
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One thing that really annoys me is how good I am at hitting pipes.

All my friends go on about how good I am at it and pub medics latch onto me but I'm just sitting there yawning.

I mean, what am I meant to improve on? I already hit 90% of my pipes. I normally have a shield on as well to try and add more challenge but having to reload has neve hampered me. Ive never even practiced, I just seem to be naturally good at it.

And thats why demo is my third least played class, because its the one Im best at
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>>165913692
Nice bait bro.
You are fucking blind, At first video Jarate landed just fucking behind him when he was moving. When he turned his behind after moving away you just thought it's a large scale, because Jar blast animation lingered.
Second video I see that Jarate is greenlit, anything b4nny ever says is unrelated.
>you can't dodge it
>you can only remove it through healing and Medics can't self heal
If Medic wants to evade Jarate or ANY other projectile he keeps himself up high. If someone ever needs to evade jarate a sloped surface would do just fine because splash radius will be tiny unless you stood perfectly still for it to hit you.

>>165914712
Dispensers can get rid of Jarate in a blink in real fucking gameplay. If your Engis aren't braindead they'll keep a dispensers in a good position for everyone to see, find and use. Are you sure you have 3k hours?
As for video, Jarate hit the flat ground, not any slope. It was just a good shot that caught Medic off guard. You can't be that much of a tight git. There's some trolling with thought must be rolling here.
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>>165931704
Yes yes anon, you're the best have fun in skial
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>>165931662
cute bunny ears U(^ x ^)U
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>>165931662
it's cool and always been cool
now stop asking for rate every thread
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>>165923845
sniper doesn't have a pistol in the game....
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>>165932034
I just wanted a little sympathy for not being able to enjoy demoman, asshole
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>>165931662
>strange spooky skins
wait a minute
i thought you could only get stranges from cases
how did you get this
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>>165931704
iktf sort of

Demo is the only fun class for me because hitting 90% of pipes is still less than 95-100% on the other classes

People that miss on scout disgust me physically
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>>165933203
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>>165931704
>>165933203
You don't enjoy it because you find yourself good at it? I wish I had that problem. Gladly take it off your hands for you. Anyway, it sounds like you don't enjoy it because it's not challenging. So make it challenging. Use the Loose Cannon. Use stickies. Use LnL. Etc.
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Demoman isn't even a hard class.
Just spam at choke points
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>>165936778
*airblasts* take that!
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r8 my demo
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>>165937545
what the heck is he supposed to be
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>>165937952
king pirate, the disco superhero
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>>165937952
>>165938139
Thats King Rajas loadout
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>>165937952
king raja aka I want more views mang
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>>165931662
all skins look ugly
all unusuals look ugly
those things don't belong in this game
vanilla scout looks better than unusualfaggot69 | trade.tf
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>>165938632
no
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>Be sniper
>Kill the same retarded engineer 4 times in a row
>The engineer calls me a hacker even though he is the only person ive killed because i suck at sniping
>server admin was the engineers friend, get kicked and banned

okay
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>>165939143
people playing for the cosmetics and the trade servers are arguably the worst part of the playerbase
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>>165939567
so
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>>165938632
>my opinions are fact, and if you disagree with me you suck and are cancer
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How's this loadout?

Exquisite rack looked too bright so I went with antlers.
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>>165940093
>antlers meme
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>>165939865
exactly
fock trade.tf children, bomboclap
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>>165923109
Clutched shoulders shifts focus, relax the shoulders. Turn with elbow, tune with wrist for leading the shot. Else, just leave the thinking to your hand and click with middle or ring finger. That sort of timing require dimensional thinking and it may burdens you. Breathing in and out a few times may help.

>>165923945
When you relax your mind it sort of leads you the way. Instead of clenching your butt to hit people in the head "fair and square" you lead the shot to the neck and still land it. Also moving or keeping stood still affects your accuracy for long distances and may dent your leading or tracking skills. Overthinking kills your skill, there's a balance to it. First find out if you're a timid runner in the case of stress or keeping it still.

>>165939379
lol
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>disconnect from server at end of match
>black screen
Anyone else have this?
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>>165942535
sometimes but I think press escape to bring me back to the menu if it happens
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>>165933864
Weapon counter.

Think you have to get one that matches the level of your gun (Civilian, Mercenary, etc.)
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Did that nigga really spend 12 hours trying to autism that the Jarate is overpowered

Fucknig Christ, nigga just walk away and come back in a few seconds
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Should I main Sniper or Demo?
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>>165945582
Whatever you want, this isn't Overmeme, son.
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>>165945582
Demo for fat frags, sniper for sick picks.
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New strange cosmetic part: MVP rounds
Tracks the number of rounds played, as well as the number of rounds that the player made the end-of-round MVP list. Only tracks full rounds.
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>>165945325
I think he was a dirty Spy main in Medic disguise.
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>>165946549
>valve
>add new things
you must be new here
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>>165947925
>tf2g
>getting new posters
you must be old here
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What's your experience with competitive TF2?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12141277
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>>165950414
>tf2lobby
meant to type tf2center, god i feel old
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mCQQ8H-NWE
>0:50
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>>165942535
pressing escape fixes it

>>165943753
no, they aren't leveled you can make one and apply it to anything from a local hero to an unusual warhawk
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>>165951585
>posting overwatch e-celebs
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>>165952502
>replying instead of reporting for spam
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>>165951585
>some comment about the Candy Cane and Pyros
So?
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>>165951585
i never realised at the time but why are the wires freaking out on this

thats some 0% aliasing shit
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>>165953097
Candy cane is OP, pls nerf
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>>165953593
retard
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>>165945582
Can you aim
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>>165945582
demolitions man is more satisfying imo

depends if u preffer powah clips or kaido clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvuIgJF9osU
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>>165953703
rude :<
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>>165954330
sorry
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>>165954565
Its cool, we all say things that just slip out
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>>165868573
this is my favorite
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>>165955689
oh cool are we still posting these
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>>165853124
r8 h8 appreci8
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>>165931704
I can see where you are coming from.
My best class is Scout yet its gotten to the point where I have started to hate playing Scout and have tried to use the Shortstop constantly to try and freshen things up.

I have no idea what to main at this point. Currently I'm trying Huntsman Sniper to see how good I can get with that
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>>165955914
It's nothing special but it ain't an eyesore at least
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>>165955689
nice
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>>165826239
I actually like my sniper.
h8 and h8.
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>>165826239
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>>165956063
funslinger engi is pretty fun, especially on maps like pl_borneo where there are a lot of cqb areas for your shotgun and nooks and crannies for your little bundle of joy
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prem demo here name my shit
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>>165953593
If anything is OP it's the machina. Just look at this video clip I found of actual gameplay footage of machina being OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgx30UmXZEo
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Hello, friends! I am new to this game, though i played it before many years ago and now I want to really get into it. Can you tell which weapons I should get to eventually get into competitive play? And what weapons are a meme and shouldn't be used?
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>>165956525
like 7 or 8 stickybombs my dude
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>>165956525
the epic
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>>165956525
Demoman takes skill
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>>165956525
Hillary for prison 2028.
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>>165956525
isla
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>>165956636
mostly stock
if youre playing medic then you need crusader's crossbow
if youre playing soldier consider using gunboats

that being said, unique weapons are shit easy to get and most of the time you spend on the game is working on your positioning, gamesense, and mechanical skill
so dont even worry about the weapons
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>>165956796
thanks kid
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*unzips half-zatoichi*
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>>165956636
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Okay this is a test: Repeat three things you saw someone type in chat today.
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>>165957051
>thatit bro...
what did he mean by this
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>>165956063
Well it looks like your next port of call is either Engineer or Demo
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>>165957540
I'm thinking of doing Demo, but the issue is that I can't use stickies for shit.

You hand me a stickybomb launcher and tell me to trap up a door and I'll guard that shit all day.

Hand me a launcher and tell me to go kill someone and I'll miss every bomb and die to a random crit.

I can hit pipes kinda ok though
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/51631

buyin steam cards too i guess
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>>165957051
>Prettyboy pistol
>fine
>Black box
>fine
Whys the Vitasaw so OP tho?
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>>165957051
I don't play sniper much, but why's the razorback that high up? It only blocks a single backstab, and if a spy really wanted that specific sniper dead he could use a revolver and cloak away right after, couldn't he?
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>>165957985
Shooting takes much longer than stabbing
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>>165957812
I want newfags to leave
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>>165957985
weapons/items that remove another class' primary mechanic are not fun.
See: Pomson
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>>165957812
It's always been a stupid chart, ignore
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>>165957812
Its stats make people think it only saves 20% of the uber they had on death, meaning dying with 40% uber would respawn you with 8%, but it actually stores up to 20% ubercharge on death so you actually respawn with 20% if you had 20% or higher, which shaves some seconds off of building an uber.
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>spy mains

Is there really that much to walking behind people and pressing left click?
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>>165957812
the 'Broken' tier isn't exclusively for OP weapons, just really shitty ones
like the Natascha isn't OP, it's really weak but also a pain to fight against, so nobody is really happy if there's a Natascha Heavy on the battlefield whether he's on your team or the enemy's
Vita-saw lets a Medic keep some of his Ubercharge after dying, so if you Uber right after the other Medic drops, by the time the Uber wears off, you're at a disadvantage. So you have to wait for the enemy Medic to respawn, then push into him again and matches that should be over quickly end up lasting much longer than they should.

>>165957985
Good Snipers are usually surrounded by their teammates, so if you try to shoot him with your revolver, you'll have 3-4 people on you at once.
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>>165958762
its fun to be sneaky and deceive people
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>>165958580
I guess that makes sense. Still, seems like it's more of a fun-killing weapon/utility than an overpowered one.
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>>165958923
chartmaker is a dunce.
see
>>165958793
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>>165957051
>Family Business
>Best Shotgun in the damn game
>very underused

>PBPP
>meme weapon that punishes you for pulling out
>slightly underused

>Deadringer
>every pub Spy's new toy
>slightly overused

>Steak
>falls short to compete with Sandvich that fully heals Heavy
>overused compared to Sandvich

Do you have any idea about what are you blabbering?
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>>165957051
>quick fix needs nerf
>when its the weakest medigun
nigga what
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>>165959219
i'd even say that the deadringer is literally broken because it messes with fundumental mechanics of the game (killfeed and deaths)
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>>165957051
How old is this?
Quick fix is on the lower end of useful now.
Also overdose and vita saw were always worthless? Both of them should be in light blue.
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>>165957051
can someone post an accurate version of this, not with "overused" but with clear tiers?
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>>165960340
I once tried it but it was a mess. I think I either deleted or lost it among my 4chan folder. By all means it doesn't worth going autistic over an inaccurate chart to fix it.
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>>165955914
7/10

Would replace beard with cuban bristle.

I don't know why people like mistaken movember. If you ask me, it's a MISTAKE to equip it. To each of their own I guess,

still a good loadout, m8.
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>>165956157
I like my scouts.

R8, H8
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RIP
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>>165963568
your scouts are dogshit
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all scouts are dogshit
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I hit a cool pipe airshot but he was ubered and did nothing

>>165963568
c is ok I guess
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>>165963568
this one is still the best
>>165883903
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>>165963568
What character is B supposed to look like?

A number of them came to mind, but I don't wanna guess wrong
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>>165965190
Was going for something like one of the "Death Race" posters.

Now that I'm looking at google, it looks nothing like the poster.

>>165964103
Y'still hit the airshot, that's something. Keep working at it.
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I always masturbate with Muselk videos in the background. It started one day when I left a video on. There was no audio so I heard Muselk fucking this girl. It was really nice. A few weeks later I decided to try it again and this time I muted the video and it was even better than the first time. It went on for a year with new or random videos and it was better with every new video he posted. Fastforward about last november. He started posting Overwatch videos with these girls and I couldn't stop thinking about him fucking them all while I watch. Now I get off from just his videos alone and I think about him all the time.
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So I've been playing heavy a bit today

It's my least played class so my opinions hold no value but.. shouldn't he have better damage on mid-range?

He literally feels like pyro with more health and no mobility
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So when are they going to fix picking up weapons
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"top" "level" "tf2" "player" here to answer your questions about competitive 6v6 tf2
strategies and concepts, maps and classes
the competitive scene including leagues and the teams and players therein
i dont know anything about trading
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>>165968765
what is your input on this
>>165957051
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>>165968765
why do demomen always get to mid first? what's the point? try to snipe the enemy demoman for 30 health with a stickybomb?
is there more to it
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>>165969115
Not him, but it's more that if you don't do it, then a demoman can completely lock down a chokepoint before anyone else getting to mid. The demos kind of equal each other out
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>>165969081
a weapons rate of use and its power dont always correlate
the "most powerful" weapons arent always the most popular
if you want my opinion on the chart if it was just about an items power, then im sorry but im not really interesting in dissecting it
>>165969115
theres really no reason not to
the demoman is almost entirely a positioning based class, so if you can get to mid early, without a huge health deficit, and secure or contest an early advantageous position for the rest of your team, then not doing so would put you at a big disadvantage
early trades with the other demo are actually a pretty small part of what you do in those early 5 seconds on mid before the rest of the team gets there.
you also acquire a lot of early information/calls on where the enemy team is rolling out and can chip buffs from the enemy teams soldiers and scouts (very important)
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>>165968765
why do I get bullied for picking pyro?
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>>165968765


What's a good training regimen for TF2?

Tired of being mediocre at everything except soldier, of which I am only above average.
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>>165970146
>mediocre at everything except soldier, of which I am only above average
Thats not really a huge accomplishment considering its the easiest class to play
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>>165970146
it depends on what you want to get good at specifically
although i will say if you approach improvement in the game with the right mindset you can get better doing almost anything, outside of those game modes that basically arent even tf2 anymore
except for 6s specifically, which i think you can only get good at by playing a ton of 6s and watching better players and using your noggin
>>165969958
because you ride a sissy bike
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>>165968765
Are you the artist formerly known as pamphlet
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>>165970413
>it depends on what you want to get good at specifically
Being reasonably good at all classes.

Being able to pick a class that no one else is playing and turn the tide for my team.
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>>165970523
again thats really general
if you want a "regimen" i guess just spend a bigger portion of your time thinking about how youre hitting your shots, and trying to predict whats going to happen in the game itself
people who think they want to improve a lot of times get caught up in petty stuff like items and unlocks, shit talking other people etc
if you just focus on your own game and dont make excuses youll improve really fast
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>>165932491
b-b-but... i need attention :c
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>tfw your one of your favorite effects is limited to shit hats
I really love this combo.
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when will valve fix tf2s shitty performance?
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ruffl?
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pyro update someday
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>>165973207
>someday

*valve time
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how to fix TR_Walkway

parse error: found $, expecting {
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>>165973579
lol
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>>165973641
Thanks for being useless.
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>>165973849
im ace
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>it's a engi turtling the fuck out of his sentry episode
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>>165974173
Uber, yo.
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>>165974173
>It's an all day funslinger marathon
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>>165974173
well what the fuck else is he gonna do
takes 4 hours to build and if you walk away for 2 seconds it's gone
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>>165974173
>It's a 1 demo episode
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>>165974173
t. angru sscout main
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>>165974530
>cnd spy sits around for an entire round doing fuckall but wait for you to leave your buildings
>doesn't even try to fight you when you come back alone to deal with his shit
>just cloaks again
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>>165975345
Those guys crack me up. It's like that's all they've figured out to do and are too scared to do anything more. Oh well, another kill for my strange.
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>>165975345
>theres more than one of them
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>>165975345
I used to do that
It's so fucking fun seeing someone run around beating the air trying to find where the fuck you are
Then uncloak once every so often in clear sight but too far away to kill

drives them fucking mad
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Is there anything cuter than spies that decloak without a disguise and proceed to knife you from the front?
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TF2 ruined my life.
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>>165976276
the ones who missed the stab on you and walk pass you to get your teammate but fails again
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>>165976675
See you guys in a week when I raffle this
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>>165976984
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>>165976984
>using two marketable items to craft unmarketable
wut
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>>165977329
recently unboxed
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>>165977145
Good hat to be honest
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>>165977145
raffle after monday, january 23, 2017
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>be a sneaky spy and use invis watch with letranger
>get behind enemies without them noticing me
>uncloak around the corner
>no one still noticed me
>proceed to walk up to the soldier
>failstab 3 times in a row until he's noticed me and blasts me with one rocket

>be medic with full uber
>ready to uber a demo to clran the nest
>hatless spy walks straight at me
>on a completely flat ground
>dont take my eyes off of him
>hes literally in the center of my crosshair
>backstab
>we both have low/normal ping

soo, when's he getting removed?

it seems that spy is literally random crits: the class
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>>165966909
>shouldn't he have better damage on mid-range?
He already have good damage at mid-range? Use jump-revs at corner often to engage, get a Medic up your butt and share Sandvich.
If alone or need to deal with a spammy Demo any shotgun will be better
Heavy has a damage ramp up, you have to fire at least 1 second without break to reach maximum potential. If you shoot with bursts, don't expect performance.
>He literally feels like pyro with more health and no mobility
Heavy is way different than Pyro. For starters he's a pocket class, Pyro isn't a pocket, nor a power class.
Get better accuracy with Minigun and learn to outwit the Spy and Sniper to an extend.
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>>165966909
nigger his long range damage is good, what the fuck are you on about?

It's 4th best in the game aside from amby spy.
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https://youtu.be/0EbNA0EVRpU?t=1m54s
Spies are adorable
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>>165979509
>5:07-6:16
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>>165979509
I love these segments
https://youtu.be/L3lQFNvUG5s?t=1m15s
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>>165902730
sketch here. that video only applies to rocket type projectiles. the guillotine uses world physics like pipes and travels the same fixed path every time.
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>>165978747
>failstab 3 times in a row
Height difference or lag. Crouch at worst scenario.
>hes literally in the center of my crosshair
>backstab
Who told you to hug a Spy, you dummy? Ofc he would exploit hitboxes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh5Fg5d_uBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnA65GybCIo
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>>165980013
holy shit why i have never watched this guy before
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>>165980060
Hi sketch
I believe the start point of projectiles are pretty much same overall. That's why I posted your video to give him a rough idea.
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>>165980440
He's got some quality stuff but he's basically moved onto Overwatch like the rest of them.
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>>165973207
heavy update never
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>>165980102
>who told you to hug a spy
i was 3 feet in front of him

>proceeds to post videos of spy being a fucked up piece of shit
dont tell me what i already know
youve just made my point
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>>165978747
This is why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1hbjr-QGM
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>It's another marathon of mvm, staring
>people who can't understand english
>low tours who insist they are good despite not upgrading or using poor weapons
>0 tour pyros who f4 as soon as they arrive and then ask why they are being kicked
>someone who won't change then cusses in chat or says 'just joking pls dnt kck' when the votes called

I hate reruns
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>>165983526
>people that bitch about MvM players
*yawns*
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>>165980102
christ how can you be this bad at making videogames
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>>165983982
What part of that is "bad" apart from the collision hull being map-oriented rather than player?
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>>165983526
>staring people who don't understand english
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>>165984143
You mean besides the 180(!) degree eligible angle?
There is literally no excuse why this would be more than like 90
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>>165984585
It was changed due to the acknowledged disparity between client and server. Backstabs used to be something like an 80 degree angle and there were legitimate facestabs due to hitbox fuckery. None of that exists now.
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>>165984713
>none of that exists now
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>>165984969
Yes, broken hitboxes do not exist anymore in that fashion. Only latency. There's only so much you can do to fix the latency without resorting to "shooter first" a la Overwatch or, god forbid, input latency. What are your interp settings?
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>>165824652
I am currently doing an in depth comparison/guide for the Winger vs. the stock pistol.

Are there any scout mains here that are willing to share some insight/opinions they have on the subject?
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What do you think of my loadout? I spent over $1000 on it.
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>>165985101
>scout mains
>insight
laughinggirls.jpg

Please excuse this shitpost and thank you for reading.
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>>165985101
its good on process mid because you can jump on the big things more easily
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>>165963568
are we posting scouts
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>>165985101
if ur offense u use the wanger cuz alt paths

if ur defense u use the stocker cuz more bullets = more corpses
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>>165963568
The B loadout makes me think of Akira, but why the skull?
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>>165985284
i love this fact, process mid is my favorite mge map alongside snakewater

>>165985447
i never thought of it this way but i would have to say alt paths with scout are just as important on defense as offense.
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>>165985101
I could ramble about the winger vs pistol for ages but I'm too tired
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>>165985391
woops old version
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>>165985696
You're doing something right
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>>165985101
>>165985724
name something specific u want to know about it
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>>165985724
tell me about it my script is 2500 words and 8 pages long, i'm pretty much done but i'm seeing if i missed anything with you guys
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>>165985841
what are maps you can rollout faster with the winger?
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>>165985915
Snakewater is one, I'll record a demo
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>>165986016
fuck yeah i love snakewater
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>>165985194
spend a bit more to make that hat team spirit color.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGcNzFd3as
Name ONE reason why this faggy box should still be locked to the map's orientation
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>>165985806
They're both pretty shit. At least the first one with the all pink made sense. That white cap with pink bonk boy, and uncolored flapjack looks like nonsense.
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>>165986273
oh i'm about to paint the flapjack pink, but still waiting on this m4 to flip on the market.

the pink/pink/white actually doesn't look bad w/ PE
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>>165986058
http://puu.
sh/trnbq/36d73e750f.dem
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>>165986139
because Valve's programmers are pretty much amateurs
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>>165986139
there's no reason for it not being a cylinder
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>>165985915
http://puu.
sh/trnkf/e6c3f7b541.dem

badlands
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>>165986139
honestly it doesn't fucking matter that much whether it's locked or not
They should make it like hexagonal though
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>>165986805
no, >>165986714 is right
a cylinder isn't even computationally expensive to calculate collisions on (a hexagon is), I don't even know what programming tricks valve is using that makes prism collisions the norm.
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>>165986805
hexagonal is a lot harder than cylindrical and will still have the same problem, but to a much smaller degree
>>165986714
its also really fucking weird because even fucking doom used cylinders for enemies
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>>165985915
http://puu.
sh/trnCL/a23c0212aa.dem

alternate gully rollout
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>>165986805
>>165987189
why are cylinders less expensive
are they calculated by radius instead of it being an actual model
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>>165987482
yes
cylinder volume is r^2 times pi times height
while hexagonal prism volume is like a bunch of shit thats too long to even bother describing
besides, cylinders will work MUCH better than any prism
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwYXU8Yfrbc

was he right
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>>165987695
yes I know I just assumed they were models so less polygons is better
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>>165985915
I'm guessing you know about jumping over the water tank and crates on granary
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>>165987834
>>165987482
>models
nah, the collision between moving objects is most likely pure math, and the collision boxes are probably saved as "width, length, height" somewhere so that they can be displayed with cheats.
>>
Are most Australian community servers basically dead now?

Who /based Surfaholics/ back in the day?
>>
>When u think the airblast is a cone and not completely retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1g2x4b_Byg
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>>165988064
He mentions a command you can use in the video.
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Grandpa or Manchild?
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>>165988667
I know, but that only works in a server with sv_cheats enabled, sorry for the confusion

>>165988564
now that's fucking silly. there's no checks for walls whatsoever?
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>>165988968
>there's no checks for walls whatsoever?
I imagine there is but you won't see it visualized there. Point is is that the box is fucking huge and, once again, map-oriented so you can effectively cover your entire character with it at the right angle.
At least they use a cone when it comes to airblasting players.
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>>165988840
Manpa
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>>165988840
I know what you were trying to do but the professor's specs just don't look good
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>>165991095
The professor's speks are apart of that hairstyle.

They were, originally, before Valve thought of the genius idea of making them a coaching item
>>
more cutie players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW4b0ofOqZM
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post doktors
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>>165994156
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>>165994185
Are you me
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>>165994252
name?
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>>165987878
Yes I am aware, thanks for the heads up though
>>165987196
>>165986536
>>165986750

Thank you very much I will keep these in mind and even implement them into my game
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>>165994353
I should add I apologize but i don't trust Puu.sh links as they can commonly contain malware but the shoutout actually helps just as much thanks
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>>165994294
sorry im shy :/
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>queue up for casual for shits and giggles
>haven't used scottish resistance in ages
>decide to take it out
>take a shot to see how far it shoots
>drops like five feet in front of me
>empty mag while checking range while pushing payload
>holy fuck this thing has no range lmao
>suddenly realize there's a votekick against me
>read chat
(TEAM) poopdawg123 (s a r d i n e s) : you gotts go sorry
(TEAM) poopdawg123 (s a r d i n e s) : just business

lmfao
holy shit
how edgy is this
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>>165994772
bad post
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>>165994772
Did you get kicked
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>>165994864
yeah
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>>165995280
poopdawg just means business <:^/
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<<:^//
>>
wtf dont mock me
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oh shit I'm sorry
>>
z 8
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/join showderp
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>>165994772
>this profile is private
damn

also there's another private profile account that comes up with a very similar name, and the previous names are similar as well

thought that was kinda interestin, wonder if it's a friend or alt
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>Play my first match of tf2 """comp"""
>Get matched with some guys
>Say they just played against the same enemy team
>Expect the worst
>Go heavy
>We win
woo guys I didn't do terrible yay
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>playing demoman
What is wrong with people
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>go to my activity feed
>Some dude has uploaded, like, 6 screenshots of me
>they are all terrifying

Send help
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>>165998817
>GRN vs YLW
>Furry models for some classes
>Texture packs that kill your eyes
brb puking
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYfx64j3BGc
BRA-FUCKING-VO VALVE
MAKING PYRO EVEN MORE BROKEN BY COMPLETE ACCIDENT
>>
>receive CO with goku decal on it from trade
>guy randomly trades me in server
>asks to buy it for his in poor English
>surewhynot
>receive this
https://tf2b.com/tf2/item/76561198036952412/4878169664
are you here, sniper?
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>>165997404
comp matchmaking ? good lord...
>>165998260
*stickytraps you*
>>165998817
*raises paw*
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>>165998817
>no furry skins for black explosions men
what a racist
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Okay lets go

>>165999434
what's wrong with mm?
I mean yeah tf2 is probably one of the biggest repositories for autism but the guys seemed alright for my first match
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>>165999497
i'm 2 fucking poor for killstreak kit
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>>165999497
Really? more Kurt Cobain jokes? That's all these ever come down to
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>>165999497
I painted my mann co. hat with my free paint
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>>165999497
i played enough to get to rank 18 but now it takes 20 minutes to just find a match, and matches are absurdly short
in real comp matches are first to 5 points instead of 2, and with a timelimit of 30
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>>165999497
i wish i was black
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>>165999497
Daddy's cummies
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>>165999497
Jingle Jangle
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>>165999497
straight from my anus
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>>165999497
I got spurs
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>>165999998
>999998
wew
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one more!
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>>166000203
im gay
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>>166000203
what should i name my minigun
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>>166000056
I know right? It's a shame repeating digits were disables on /vg/

I hope Hiroshimoot does the same for [s4s] this April, imagine the chaos of no dubs on their birthday

>>166000203
Shoot em in da bum
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>>166000203
do the roar;ray sipe; comedy; actor
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>>166000265
>>166000265
>>166000265
>>166000265
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>>166000249
Fuck, you just wasted an opportunity for the best Jerma joke
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>>166000269
too late
>>166000249
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thread meme count: 10
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>>165976270
i used to be the most paranoid engi, i was that guy who shot a pistol at every corner of the room in rotation and shot at every ally coming in and out of the room.

Then i started getting good at spy and baiting engis into being paranoid and watching one completely spaz out and spam his wrench over his entire half of the map like Lady Macbeth trying to wash her hands. And thats when you go "is this what i look like playing engi".
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>>165983526
i bet youre the guy who INSISTS a useless meme weapon is good in mvm cause you have 1000 tours like fucking nastacha or tomislav and kick if you dont use them. Or fucking 30% attack speed on a heavy. Thats always been retarded as a first buy and now theyre acting like its the fucking meta
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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