/lidg/ - Let it Die General

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>>165699076
I get that you're basically just trying to think of changes that would make people mad, but you could at least work a few things in there that would help the game overall AND make people mad, like
>dev raids removed
>fight points gained normalized by your population in relation to the opponents' - ie a california player would need to win 40 times to get full rewards and would thus probably lose all fights since not many people would do that much
>Stingshrooms make boss AI more aggressive/effective
>Jackals gain effect of mushrooms you use, but can see through transparungus and are immune to the negative effects such as stingshroom's defense debuff or teargas/sleep
>Guardshroom/Slowmungus/Transparungus put a debuff on you after their base duration (so no stacking duration) making you unable to benefit from any mushrooms for 2 minutes
>Bosses can hear like COEN
>Final form weapons fixed and balanced, but stat requirements shot up through the roof so as to require a discount decal or a specialized class to use them.

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What are dev raids ?
Sorry for this stupid question.

Dev stream tomorrow. Update in 2 weeks, probably.

Daily reminder there is no reason to pick Strikers. The two best classes are Attacker and shooter.

>>165702231
So shooter over Striker for climbing?

>>165701454
Your changes are just as bad as his

>>165702649
How's Cali treatin you

>>165702449
Yes. Shooter does more damage than striker with Dex based melee weapons like Katana and Iron. The two best melee weapons in the game.

>>165701454
Only the first two and last one have any merit.

The first one also introduces a problem with it. A good fix should not introduce problems.

>>165702974
Wait I forgot. I think Iron is luck not Dex.

>>165702754
P good, won 10 DMs off shitters this week, about to win 2 more from NY shitters

>>165703248
Yeah they're kinda half-assed stupid ideas pushed out with the main intent being just to annoy people, but at least push forward some sort of 'health' of the game.

Removing dev raids I don't really see being much of an issue though, so please elaborate on that one.

As for the second one, that is a stupid idea that largely invalidates any personal effort invested into fights, making them feel awful, but at least solves the population issue California represents - you'd need a certain amount of population to get into a fight, but having an overbearing amount would be bad. I'd like to think of a better solution to fights, but the system itself is kind of fucked and overly encourages population stacking anyways.

Dev raids will most likely fix themselves when Japan enters the fray, but fights will still be a problem.

>>165702974
>iron
>dex
are you retarded?

What floor is the jin die I need to kill to get to the last boss? Floor 30's

>>165701719
They're like the dev haters, it'd an AI. Itso a raid but an AI's base, and it gives 40k+ of each resource

Does the moving shop sell reversal metal? And if so how much does it cost?

>>165704682
ye, for 50k

>>165704682
Yes it sells everything you need to make things and it also sells all blueprints (except swag items)

>>165703671
>>165703360
Retard

>>165703578
I think the population situation will solve itself after the japs join in. I'm sure they will have their own super city so it will be a Cali Vs Whatever shitfest.

Or you know just force the players to pick a local team.

>>165705351
>Or you know just force the players to pick a local team.

This thread is full of shit ideas, isnt it?

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Is there anyway to see how many fight points net you what rewards? I can't seem to find anything about from Tetsuo.

>>165705351
Thing is, that's only a solution if you think the extent of the problem is: California never loses.

When in reality the whole system is broken because of California. My region has never even been in a fight. My knowledge of how they work is just from people posting here. They need some way of actually regulating populations, or to just get rid of most regions and condense them into continents - and use the region of your PSN account to restrict you to yours - which would still lead to massive loser continents. Africa would be the region that just doesn't get any fights, and Europe would just lose all of their's.

I feel like Freedom Wars had this same problem, but I never actually played it when it was new so I'm not really sure.

>>165703578
Well the problem removing devraids is that devraids act as a bandaid for the high risk, low reward that comes with the TDM. If you remove devraids, then something has to be introduced such as "When you raid, you raid 80 percent of the current banks of the players, but players now only lose 5 percent of what was stolen." This isn't what I'd use this is just an example.

If there was a REASON to actually have bigger banks, then this would be fine. Keep in mind, this is less of an issue at lower ranks because people at least keep enough KC and Splithium that raids are still worth the risk. At higher ranks though players constantly hover below the 1k stuff line, making those raids more or less pointless endeavors if you're looking for profit.

Devraids bandaid this issue by giving you a reward. Devraids being removed IS ideal, but if that's going to be done, making normal raids better options is the real way to go. Basically, make the game fun, not tedious and frustrating.

As for the second one, I said that the idea had merit, not that it was perfect. Having it be population dependent does help the smaller teams actually have a fighting chance. Fight Points should be a little more varied and complicated in how they're divvied up. Style should count for some of it. Goretastics, doing it naked with no weapons or spamming yoga shrooms in the enemy's waiting room. Having it be "the bigger team wins" just isn't fun or engaging however and just as much invalidates personal effort invested.

Remove regions and let us make our own clabs god damn it.

>>165705714
>California should just have a button that fills my KC/SP bank on demand

>>165705734
I don't feel like dev raids are necessary - I've never seen a single one - but I definitely get where you're coming from with risk/reward when it comes to TDM and agree. I mean, the alternative to never seeing a dev raid is just pretending TDM doesn't exist - I don't raid, I don't defend, the only impact it has on me is that I need to hoard non-raidable resources and keep my KC low.

Upping player rewards and beefing defense up massively seems like the easiest way to go - that way if you invest you can juts keep your KC and be confident about it, but someone can swoop in and take it if they want to take the risk of dealing with an actual intimidating defense - making that groggy resist decal actually invalidate brainshrooms/evershrooms would be a start, but not enough - maybe add shit like additional screamers, traps, animals, tubers, shields for your banks - basically just a whole host of shit that could be limited by a point total in addition to your defenders.

Regarding your point about the fights being population based, that kinda loops back into the issue with hunters as well - right now geared hunters don't really offer the sender better rewards, and they don't give the killer any better rewards than a naked hunter - it's retarded. In the same sense, there should be some bonus that goes along with dealing with a real defense as opposed to just effortlessly strolling up to the bank and fucking it to death. Capturing was probably intended for this, but it offers the kidnapper fucking nohting but a headache.

>>165706445
If you spent a few seconds thinking of something other than your butthurt for california >>165705731
has a good explanation why being locked to your local region would be a terrible idea.

How difficult is the "Skip COEN" route in comparison to fighting COEN himself? Any nasty surprises in that 5 Room gauntlet?

Adding to that, is a regular Death Burner and Shrooms enough to melt Floor 34 COEN?

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>>165706717
Believe me man, I get it, I just like annoying people in California. I legit do not have a good way of fixing the system, and most my ideas generally just pan out to 'make people in California just as bad off as everyone else' rather than actually elevating everyone to a good position and making the system good.

I don't like population stacking, but others are right when they say that any fix to it should be accompanied by a system overhaul that actually gives incentive to everyone to more evenly spread out, rather than just penalizing California for population stacking in the first place.

>>165707161
You arent annoying anyone, people are still getting their free rewards. But yeah, you are butthurt.

>most my ideas generally just pan out to 'make people in California just as bad off as everyone else' rather than actually elevating everyone to a good position and making the system good.

>>165707680
And yet you ceaselessly reply and seem to think the system is great as-is since it benefits you, even quoting me for a 'gosh you're so stupid' attempt.

I know I'm painting you in ways you haven't really indicated, but it's hard to think otherwise when you absolutely refuse to even engage in discussion about the issue.

>>165707071
I got the coen skip rather easy with a few screamers, tubers and climbing. I wouldnt fight coen with a 4 star fighter, and I used the death burner (with stings and slowshrooms) and killed him in like 7-13 hits.

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How do i stop getting my asshole pounded in raids? Is the only option to climb til i get 5 star fighters and grind out a freezer full of them?

>>165708189
5 star fighters make literally everything easier. You go from 2,000 to 10,000 health and boi do you pack a punch.

>Dev haters
This. THIS is the F2P try to fuck you out of your money bullshit. That is the reason haters stay at your level regardless of your floor and no other reason.

>>165708434
I farmed about 8 brain mushrooms from expeditions, I think I can take on a few of these "dev" haters

>>165708179
Thanks, dude. Will wait for that rotation.

>>165708534
even when you dont have access to brain mushrooms, you still have TEAR/frog mushrooms which will provide you with an opening that will kill them with one weapon combo

>>165708434
get good

remember when black phantoms in demon's souls were just a part of the level and everyone took them for granted?

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Anyone got that webm of the insurance girl doing a little dance and the camera pans up and down?

Should've saved it when I saw it, thanks in advance.

>>165707885
I dont offer any ideas to fix this shit because simply put the system cant be fixed. The raiding mechanics in this game are so halfassed. That includes attacking and defending and fights and pretty much everything in between. The system would have been better off not existing at all


Making things bad for california like everyone else wouldnt matter, because the damage has already been done. Please do go on though

>>165709182
Wow, inspiring. You should design games for a living.

Where did you find the splatter 13 pants bp? I would just buy it outright from the shop but the 20s don't sell bps. I swear, I tried the 22f, 26f boss farm, and 27f treasure farm and the only thing I got that was for rare bps is the ugly clay set. Are the bps available in the 35-40f?

>>165709938
21-30 it tends to be a rare drop

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>>165709358
No thanks, i'll be dev raiding :^)

>>165709938
I just got all 3 pieces of that set going from Kanie to Shinko-Bashi

>>165708534
That will only last you 1, maybe 2 dev raids. Go for evershrooms.

>>165706445
Devraids aren't necessary, which is why I made mention of it being a bandaid. The underlying system is the necessity, but it's busted and in dire need of repair. I really like the idea of the TDM and so it's hard for me to ignore it as a function. I like the idea of teams, building up hate and rivalries. It's good stuff. It just needs the mechanics to back up what they're trying to sell. Devraids as they are right now kinda give you a taste of the ideal TDM experience. Not a whole lot, but it's a nice glimpse of what could be.

Making the TDM defense side have different arenas and more of a Tower Defense mini game would be fucking amazing.

>hunters

Now this is a system that could easily be fixed by just making Hunters money and splithium pinatas with an increasing multiplier based off the amount of equipment the Hunter is wearing.

Expeditions need to be revamped in general too though. SO many things in this game need touching up.

Do you have to fight U-10 on this rotation or is the way locked?

>>165710237
You know, oddly enough even if I had access to dev raids like Cali players, I probably wouldn't do them. My particular brand of autism requires me to be learning something or making some sort of conclusion while I'm doing repetitive bullshit, and there's nothing to be gleaned from devraids, just endless rewards for no effort. I guess I could more quickly accrue KC to test stew probabilities, but I like to multitask.

Which is also why I'm here shitposting, or in some cases discussing the game's design/possible development going forward.

>>165710578
Yeah, it seems like devraids are what the developers expected rewards to be like at their particular grade, but the extreme ease of taking out defenders, mixed with the risk of even having defenders means just nobody will ever hold money.

And while devraids simulate what they thought rewards should be, due to the above failings they also do more to force people into population stacking in order to get any reward from the system at all. But devraids remove the rivalry/hate mechanic, and population stacking removes any meaning rivalry/hate actually held, it's just kind of a vicious spiral of failure all predicated on the actual action of raiding being a joke.

Still, the system itself has potential if they can just re-do the raiding part.

>>165711028
Devraids are really more of a concern for this particular thread and I suppose the let it die subreddit than the bulk of players. Not many people have reached the point where they'll see Dev Haters, so I still maintain that they're a bandaid and symptom of the shitshow that is the TDM rather than an active contributing issue. So they don't really 'remove' anything I think. The population stacking is due to the frequency of fights Cali gets into. The death medals is the more valuable prize after all than Dev Raids.

But I agree, the system has merit. Hell, all of the ideas has merit and I think they're easier salvaged than discarded considering the investment already put in the game. It's just a question of how much support will they truly give the game. I can't imagine them leaving it the way it is intentionally.

What they should do, to tie in with the post apocalyptic themes, is make a few big factions after some event that destroys the current ones.

Haven't played a lot of games with a faction for every one of the fifty states, Armored Core 5 was one and while I didn't play it enough to get a feel for it I'd imagine it worked somewhat similarly. If they're going for individual pride just let people make their own clans, which would probably just make things worse.

How do i kill Coen on floor 40? Also are any of the other bosses on 40 annoying as him?

>>165711615
>where they'll see Dev Haters

Whoops, misspoke, meant to say Dev Raids here.

strangest glitch i just had happen when i was farming reds off goto9 he died and dropped the red metal but then kept living and attacking and spawning skeletons the gate could be opened so i got the hell out of there.

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We need to gang up to take down the monster of California, join team Slovakia to have this be the first war they've ever historically won.

>>165711615
I agree with what you're saying, but the term bandaid I feel is misused. Dev raids were there with the launch of the game, they're just to fill in blanks in the raid list. I don't think the devs realized what a shitshow TDM would be before they launched, and the design of dev raids was literally just gap fillers that people would ignore, going after the more lucrative player targets.

Removing them wouldn't really do much other than penalize players that would continue to population stack anyways, leaving all the problems and just removing the benefits. It's unfortunate but the only immediate and easy fix to the problem is population regulation - you can choose what region to join, but they're locked based on population until they all even out in a tier as someone had suggested in a prior thread.

California can only have 1000 players until every region fills up to about 1000, then the cap raises by 200 or so, and it just continues that way, never letting any one region get too far ahead of another.

It's stupid, and removes the camaraderie you're supposed to feel for your team since you'll most likely be forced into one you don't like, but it's the easiest 'fix' to the problem of unbalanced fights and dev raids.

Really though, as stated prior, it just needs the base action of raiding/defense to be redone. The damage is already caused by population stacking, and so they'll probably need to take some form of action to actually get people out of California, even if it's just kicking everyone out and letting them re-choose their region, once the main benefits for population stacking are adjusted. Unless they do something like giving a penalty to bloated areas (hope not) so people would move on their own.

Im sure you hear this enough, but
>jump in a level
Hater level twice your level twice yours immediately kills you in two hits

What the hell am i to do? I can get good and all but god Damn getting 2 hit on the first floor feels like a bit much

just started R&D for my motor psycho
>tfw getting milk black in the first chest I go to
my dick is hard

What floor of the secret shop sells reversal metal?

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>>165712610
a bet your a faggot who only uses items to recover health

>>165712610
if you're leveling a new guy, go kill lv 1 coen for a bit

>>165712610
Just buy some death metal goyim who cares if you die.

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>>165708845
Nevermind

Are there any piercing melee weapons?

>>165712610
Use your eyes and notice he is twice your level, if you don't think you stand a chance, run away. You can use the escalator when you are being chased, just not the elevator.

>>165712838
Motor psycho is fun fun fun fun.

>>165713345
no

>>165712610
>make it to Floor 33
>head up a narrow stairway
>get spit roasted by a Screamer and Hater that leap down from the roof on either side of me

Fucking MILK

>>165712838
>needed one more MILK Black to fully upgrade it
>bad luck on Floor 22
>open up that day's Uncle Prime
>it's a MILK Black

This almost makes up for all the Stamingus he kept sending me!

>>165713076
Funny guy, we are talking fully regenersted business here
>>165713368
Ok that solves it, didnt know i could use the ecalator. Assumed i couldnt

>>165713535
ye that trap is ass, guardshroom those small hallways if you can help it

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>knock down a hater with a grenade
>run up to stomp
>dropkick instead
>hater gets up while I take twenty years to get up
>dead in one combo
all my deaths in this game have been to really fucking stupid shit

it's never something like 'damn wow I miscalculated the distance on that attack, shit'

it's always like 'wait why did it do that' or 'no wait what the fuck i didn't want to do that'

>>165714045
Granted why is there a level 25 on level 1 when im level 1. That shit seems silly

>>165714709
That's because you lack self awareness

>>165715045
Aaaaand im im dead in one hit,

Does Slugger increase the steam damage of the iron or only when it makes contact? Blunt attack +10%

>>165715638
It doesn't affect the vapor at all

>>165715189
USE FUCKING MUSHROOMS

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>>165715076
Not that guy but fuck off.

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Damage on the way up and damage on the way day. If I had died to this I would have been pissed.

>>165715973
I am senpai, bombs help me most times, poison doesn't seem to hurt the overleveled. Healing take too long to eat in battle and thats all ive really seen.
Just got killed in the hallway on floor one, teach me oh senpai im not sarcastic im getting fucked

>raiding
>in the subway transition, my fighter is standing up with a red aura instead of the usual sitting and waiting
Is this just something that happens when you're at war?

>>165716454
frog mushrooms ya tard.
hard CC gets you free hits for kills

>>165716506
I'll give it a shot

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>>165716454
Frog shrooms, Fluffy shrooms and to an extent poison shrooms all give you an opening to attack and can be found in the bottom floors of the tower. You can even reliably farm frog shrooms in the first room on the first floor.

>>165716814
>>165716506
Thanks sempais

>>165716473
if a fight starts and your team has the higher hate meter you get a massive buff when raiding the opposing team. check your health and stats before and during a fight raid, the buff makes you nearly unkillable

>>165716920
Remember that if you poison a hater and back up they'll start to puke giving you time to also whale on them.

Also, RnD some armor.

>>165717560
tough shrooms are pretty good, if you get a lot from expedions just cook and eat, pretty good for raiding, i usally use 2 star sengoku body and legs, and with the boost from tough its pretty decent damage resistance, least against baseballs and nails

>>165716361
That smug lizard even got you too

>>165717863
Jokes on the lizard, he ran right into the fire and got cooked.

You know it's funny. In some ways I enjoy this game far more than Dark Souls.

On the other hand and it could merely be because I know the game is F2P but it feels like the game is one of those shitty coin gobbling light gun games at an arcade.

I'm on Floor 36 now and it feels like there is a man standing over me telling me to just buy some death metal and everything will be alright.

In Dark Souls the deaths felt impersonal as they had nothing to gain from designing it in such a way but here it really feels like they are trying to jew me out of money with the game design especially the fucking ridiculous reclamation prices on 31+. The general grinding required also does not help in addition to the enemies being extremely lethal.

I'm really disappointed this wasn't just a regular retail game so that the design wouldn't feel the way it does to me because I am falling in love with the game.

>>165718635
USE MUSHROOMS MORE

>>165701270
any advice for floor 40 boss?
i'm scared, guys
should i bring gear? i've heard to not do that

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JUST

>>165719405
>going in naked

your own damn fault

especially since shes easy in that stage

>>165719524
I forgot there was a boss here

Is Okusa up? When is Okusa up?

>>165719968
Tuesday

>>165719601
>huge ass room
>looks exactly like what it is: a boss room
>forgot
Are you drunk son?

>>165720103
this is my first video game

>>165720085
Damn it I was afraid of that. I'm off tomorrow but I have to work Tuesday. Fuck it all.

>>165720182
Hope you're having fun boyo.

If the game wasn't free would the rolls have I-frames?

>>165720603
no

just look at NMH

>>165720678
What would be different if it was free?

>>165720813
it would be about a cute girl climbing a tower

>>165719394
4chan pleas i'm too scared to go it alone

>>165720560
theres a lot of bullshit

>ny v Cali
>can't leave my Waiting Room without califags attacking

This is shit. It's just shit. I hope to god they give free dms to all the other regions for this bullshit.

>>165721010
you need a powerful weapon because the final boss has an obnoxious amount of health and defense. also a lot of guardshrooms and slowshrooms

>>165721298
You picked an odd and difficult game to start with. Is the PS4 yours or borrowed

>>165721487
It's mine, got it for XXX-mas from my gf. Apparently a Maths degree is too stressful to not have something relaxing to do.

>>165721307
You only lose gold from first raid on you once you are in the tower. Next raids will only lower KC when you come back to waiting room and start climbing again. Otherwise only TDM points are affected

>>165721309
could i go for it if i don't have slowshrooms, but a metric ton of guardshrooms?

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is it me or is Max the only Don to actually hate the player

the others respect you

>>165721803
Max commends your choice of weaponry

>>165721948
oh right

he just easily offended

>>165721719
going to make it harder. you need something to sustain constant damage on the boss like cloak or slow time

>>165722161
shit, why do slowmungus and transparangus have to be such a pain to find

So I noticed I found plenty guardshrooms but no fix-equipment shrooms.

Could it be that the devs fucked up and just swapped the spawn rate of these two by accident and guardshrooms were meant to be rare while fix-it shrooms abundant?

>>165721803
Max respects you after you beat him. Jackson is too out of it to hold any malice, Crowley is incredulous of your skill until (like Max) you beat him, and Taro just wants to eat you.

>>165722370
Expeditions, bro. But yeah, I've rarely seen Fun Fungus in the wild as well. It's just been Guardshrooms and Lavashrooms so far.

>>165722569
Why is Max's head so big compared to Jackson and Crowley

>>165722713
He was a big guy

>>165722208
You don't need them, just eat a ton of guards in the waiting room and bring 3-4 of your strongest weapons along with a few stingshroom/crush

Remember to keep a good weapon in your active slot when starting the fight, because you'll use it to fight a weak coen

>>165722370
No? It's fucking obvious that 1ups are the rare godmode shroom like slows and cloaks.

>>165721307
How's your asshole feeling?

Thanks for funding my loadout and retrievals for my collector.

t. Huggablelobster

>>165721010
Your gear is taken at the start and you have to win rounds of sumo to get it back. Be sure to take your absolute best gear and make sure to have your best weapon in your hand before talking to Death.

Many people like to eat several guardshrooms before the beginning so the sumo is easier.

>>165721307
>hes not a califag
You deserve everything you get

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Just got two M.I.L.K Blacks in a row. I can finally get +4 rapier and move on past floor 25, feels good.

>>165723964
>tfw just using irons and am still steadily climbing the 30s

they start to break pretty quickly, but it sure beats farming shit for hours. I'll save that for later

>floor 16 boss
help

I fucking hate jin die so much

>need to climb up to get to her
>she just snipes your the entire time
why

>>165724634
hide behind walls until she teleports close to you

>>165724634
>hide behind pillars and let her tele close to you
>slap her shit with a slash weapon like a machete or whatever you have really
>if you kill her quick enough she doesn't even teleport up to the top
What's so hard about Jindie?

>>165724856
He's on 16 JIN-DIE, which is definitely the worst arena she's in, since if you're not over-prepared she'll generally go down low, then when you're down there, she'll go up top, and won't just randomly teleport to the floor you happen to be on.

>>165724634
It's best to just over-prep, bring an iron and a weapon that does a lot of damage (or just upgrade the iron a lot), rage attack to blind her, beat on her for a few hits, rinse and repeat, be sure to shroom.

If you end up in that situation, you basically have to wait for her to teleport to an area where she can't see where you're climbing, then scramble up as fast as you can. It sucks.

>>165724634
Don't forget to pick a rank 3 character

>>165725101
>16 Jindie
>hides from you literally the entire time
kek

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>Climbing to F20
>Game stutters during escalator loading screen
>All weapons on the floor are invisible, including the weapons in mine and the enemies' hands

I managed to survive but i'll be damned if my butt wasn't clenched the entire way

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>Cooking shrooms in waiting room
>Accidentally throw a transparagus behind the mushroom slut

It's just sitting there, mocking me.

>>165725689
She'll like it

>>165725689
try throwing more shit at it, worked for me

>>165725689
You can cook shrooms without pressing x. Learn the trick, never throw another mushie again.

>>165725812
Welp, now she has a couple new snail friends

What do you guys generally use for climbing the tower? I'm always using the Collector because I have a hoarding problem and I want to have all the materials all the time, but I'm wondering if that's just a scrub trap.

>>165726594
Shooter, Striker or Attacker. You only use a Collector when you've cleared that area and only need to farm mats.

>>165726594
Striker armed with Treasure Hunter so I know where the exits are, I possess a decent understanding of how many enemies I'll have to face, and I have enough HP and Attack power to survive any unwelcome ambushes or traps that don't appear on the map.

Anything come of that glitch on Twitter or Reddit?

why am i fighting level 50 haters on floor 1 with a new fighter

>>165728270
Because you've bought a Grade 2 (two star) fighter. When you buy a fighter from the next tier you'll always have a chance to fight haters/hunters from those levels. For example lets say you unlock a G5 fighter you'll be fighting level 125 haters/hunters at level 1 as well

>>165728270
because haters scale with what rank your fighters are and not your level

>>165723964
and it will become useless once u hit floor 30, nice waste of time

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>>165728675
>not wanting to upgrade it now so 4* farming is easier later on.

Okay

>>165729262
4* farming? 4* saber you mean?

Is Milk Green used for anything at all?

Just beat Crowley and got murdered on 31 when I came back to check it out after finding the escalator. What's the game plan from here? How do I survive to find the Masamune blueprint? Should I build the Hard Puncher set? help senpais

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>>165729262
rapier is a bad weapon

shouldve finished 21-30 with an iron then craft a katana

>>165729887
Metal Bat A

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>>165730092
Doesn't katana use candle wolf though which is piss ez to get with shrooms?

Katana blueprint is 30-40?

I still have the two milks, what should i use it on?

>>165729887
knight chest

>>165730081
Hoboing it up with enemy weapons or armor is good. Bring an iron or buzzsaw knuckles to destroy armor to deal damage

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I notice that sometimes combos will stunlock me, and then other times there's time for me to roll away in between swings. What gives?

>>165730081
Skulk around Floor 31 for Chests and materials. Avoid the ambush window. Send expeditions to Floor 31. Be wary of Hovering Tubers as if it was your first time encountering them.

Be prepared and try to get either the Chopper or Katana for the climb to the Floor 33 as Floor 32 is a poison-laden, pitfall-strewn, labrynthine gauntlet.

>>165730405
thats one of the reasons its considered the best weapon in the game

good damage

good durability

easy to craft

can use barbarian decals with it

>>165730405
Armor or Motor Psycho

>>165730529
It's the sweatdrops coming off your head. They're like a fatal counter from Blazblue if you've played it. If not, basically everything will take longer to recover from while you've got them, so certain combos get to finish that you'd normally be able to escape from, like the unarmed R2x3 combo.

What causes them is getting hit while starting an action generally, though I think getting hit in the back also causes them.

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>>165730575
>>165730639
Mah nigga

>Wolf black 4 times in a row from goto....

>>165730405
Find grade 5 katana or motor psycho and repair it with the guard shroom. Will literally carry you through the game without having to farm

>fucking impossible to hit a hater or defender with the apoc hockey stick
JUST FUCKING DIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>165726594

I've had excellent results with my grade 3 Defender, using Tank and a Road Shocker+ hat for another 10% extra hp. Between the health pool and crazy DEF, I've managed to survive a lot of hits that'd have killed anything else.

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>Iron becomes an sick firewall at tier 3
>Machete turns into longsword tier 2 at tier 3

Any other unassuming weapons get really cool late into their cycle?

Does the iron hammer become thor's gavel?
Does the Buzzsaw Knuckle turn into a plasma cutter?

Are +1 Rapiers, +2 Longsword Ss, and +4 Iron+s enough to make it through the thirties? At least until I find the weeblade BP?

>>165732305
IIRC Iron Hammer turns into the lamest looking thing and the Buzzsaw doesn't change all that much. I always save cool looking 5* weapons I get from expeditions, and it's a very small list.

>>165732305
the iron hammer just becomes like a hammer with spikes(?)
yeah, make sure you break the enemies' armor before attacking though because it's a lot easier.
But it's better to just find a grade five katana and repair it and use that only for the bosses.

>>165732524
>>165732421

I just want the update to add fist weapons or more moves for fists

>>165732669
>Caestus
>Stungun fists/knuckledusters for an early access to Electricity damage weapons cause there FUCKING ARENT ANY
I could dig it

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>>165732871
>>165732669
who knows if that will ever happen

the next updated probably will just complete the original 4 areas with a some QoL fixes, I doubt they'd work too hard on the next areas before japan can have a hand at the current content

>>165733052
yeah most likely

I wonder, why vampire fungus is never mentioned? It's basically invincibility with added bonus of damage absorbtion, and you can easily kill 2 crabs on F11 for 80 sec of invul. Is there a catch?

>>165733542
Combine that shit with the Vampire decal and you'll be almost immortal.

>>165702974
Meelee weapons scale off STR.

>>165733052
This webm pleases me, Cats are shit-tier pets.

>>165733542
wat?
i thought it just gave lifesteal

>>165733542
they don't do that much. or at least not enough to carry a bunch around.
I tried them out a bunch while farming Goto and blueprints. would rather just carry a snail and poison eater in most cases

>>165733717
I've been doing this myself, carrying around a couple of snails and using poison eater but can you poison mid-bosses?

>>165733712
It's a really good lifesteal. 40% of damage dealt. No cap based on your max hp

>>165733591
Vampire is good for extended climbing. Fills you up a bit and if you can do huge damage it's really good.

Had a thought. Two vampire decals, one premium, and two mosquitos?

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>Finally finished getting my freezer full with 1 Attacker, 1 Collector, and 8 Lucky stars at maxed LUK
>Too lazy to send them out on expeditions

>>165734006
is luck the only thing that matters for expeditions?

>>165734046
I think so, my maxed level attacker hardly brings back anything but all the Lucky Stars with only their luck leveled always brings back tons of items.

>>165732305
Either the Pickaxe or the Hockey Stick gets a chainsaw attached to its end. Baseball bat gets spikes.

>>165715638
>>165715930
So what about katana L1. Does that count as blunt?

What does /lidg/ think of the Pork Chopper? Can it carry me through endgame? I just love poison weapons cause they destroy haters

>>165734646
its a monster at shitting on haters

>>165734805
>hater/hunter has pork chopper
>so do i
>we trade hits
>it points me and heals me
>I poison her and I kill her while she's puking her guts out
So fun

>>165734646
Yeah, it's good.
The 5* version loses the poison damage though.

>>165734949
zombie chopper is likely shit compared to pork + plus 4

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>was in canada
>barely any victories through the time the game launched and i joined to now
>got to 36 all on my own through sheer force of will and cautiousness
>still died plenty of times but so far all i am trying to do is farm blacks for the decent gear needed to progress any further than this
>just not making enough dough to progress fast enough
>join cali
>been getting some extra dough since
>still a bit low on expenses
>get on general
>see that expeditions with max lucky stars helps a ton
>do it
>compare shit brought back to normal fighters
>insignificant difference
>just wasted around 8 hours of leveling and farming the wrong blacks every time
>get on the general
>want to bitch whine and complain
>do it
>wait for replies

>farming Jin Die 16 for War Ensemble Greens
>first two times she drops KCs
>third time the bitch only drops some Dark Ryback pants E

WHAT? I didn't even know mid bosses could drop equips.

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>>165735359
Shouldn't be part of the drop table if you ask me.

Specially for the fucking higher levels that shit gives me fury. Just want some fucking WE blacks and reds for fuck's sake.

>>165735394
yeah fuck anyone who says bosses that dont drop their metal every time is good gameplay, suck a dick, i got my pork chopper + to +3 today, and with a 2hour 10 min wait time, id rather fucking not get gear, and coins MOTHERFUCKER

>>165735319
>insignificant difference
it's really not. my few lucky stars bring back almost triple the amount of shit that my others do

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>>165735504
>realize i didn't level the luck of my lucky stars before posting in the general
>look like a fucking retard
>want to feign ignorance
>shitpost instead.
>people unironically believe lucky stars are worth the time

Get your fact straight cucks.

>>165720182
This is the best excuse I've ever read, ever.

>>165735556
What are you even saying in this post?

>>165735974
he's saying thanks for informing him about levelling luck

>>165736063
Well can't teach people something if they're going to be a hard headed faggot the entire thread.

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>>165736186

I hope tomorrow treats you better so you don't have to go on the internet and act like a tough guy.

How long do you have to be away from your controller for it to be considered afk? Waiting on an upgrade to finish to spend my resources and I don't want to get raided by all the NEETs playing at 4am

I really hope in the February update we get a 2 handed gun that is like the in between of the AR and the Sniper rifle.

The Sniper rifle just blows heads off of any enemy, but just doesn't have enough ammo to do it to everyone, but the AR has too much ammo and unless you stack just about every damage decal you can it still takes 5-10 shots.

Don't say Magnum either because that thing is a piece of inaccurate shit.

I want u10 added somewhere to the 21-29 floors, and for expeditions to be able to find metals and crafting materials

I already beat the game, but if I want to level up milk shit I need to run Kawabe 100+ times for a handful of black milk metals

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>>165736308

In feb i just hope they fix these dumbass invisible gear bugs and dumbass load times

The load times aren't game ruining for me but they've been getting somewhat annoying when farming for specific shit that is already a pain in the ass itself.

Did they announce what day of feb? cause they did say feb 2 for japanese servers to launch but i'm not sure if that's gonna be a good or bad thing for us in terms of content exclusivity or not.

>>165736347
>no high level luchadore mask unless one does the kawabe bitch run

if they don't jew up the number of fights I would literally pay 1 death metal for 1 black milk metal

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>>165736347
>wanting any more U-10

Get the fuck out that bitch is pure cancer.

>>165736403
I'm assuming it'll be same day since they're probably going to have the new content on their disc unless it's day 1 patch for them.

Also I'm still extremely curious what that physical copy decal is, supposedly the physical copy contains a decal that you can't get in game.

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>>165736518
>physical copy decal

What? my brain can't process this shit anon.

Someone elaborate.

>>165736502
Replace all of 32 u10's non red metal drops with black metals then, I just fucking hate kawabe chest runs so bad

>>165736571
http://gematsu.com/2016/12/let-die-launches-february-2-japan

>A physical version of Let It Die will also be released for 6,900 yen on March 9. It includes an otherwise unobtainable decal and more than 10,000 yen worth of in-game items.

>Doing stamp rally now
>Can't get several of them because of rotation.
Fuck

>>165736603

So already there's something we can't get that the gooks can. Fuck my ass.

>>165736675
Hopefully it's some bitch thing like a premium decal version of the exp decal and not something that alters gameplay stats or drop rates

>>165736675
im keeping my eyes peeled if you can import it and reap the rewards, and if you cant, that decal will likely be some sort of express decal in function, sorta like how mantis, and that other exp gain one isnt as usefull later on

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>>165736739
Let's hope i guess, and even if it is some bullshit like that i guess it's unlikely it will be a MUST higher up probably just some early game shit to compensate for the late launch i'd reckon.

>>165736675
I mean, we do get the game like 2 months before they do.

>>165736809
>We get the version filled to the brim with bugs
T-Thanks

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>>165736972

Has anyone else been victim to the fucking bug where you turn into an abomination? the player model gets all fucked and your limbs become flat as your body implodes on itself.

I've seen it once it's pretty fucking hilarious but i wouldn't go on expeditions with it for sure.

The invisible gear bug on the other hand needs to fucking go.

so considering the game was delayed a year, they probably are withholding or polishing a bunch of additional story content

The usual f2p rodeo amount of content is one dlc sized update every month or one decent sized update every 2-3 months with some delayed/staggered content released every week

No clue what they are doing long-term yet since they're just sort of polishing the game up for the Japanese release so far though

>>165737029

I got the slip 'n' slide bug first time I killed GOTO. Managed to find out the crouch+x trick to get out and try and find an elevator.
>boy, I hope I don't get ganked by a hater while rendered completely helpless by this bug
>what do you know, I walk five feet and get immediately ganked by a hater

>>165737035
To be fair staggering content out is a good idea depending on what it is. Apparently what's confirmed so far is:

>Level cap REMOVAL
>More Floors (probably 10?)
>More weapons
>New enemies
>QoL like load times and sorting improvements

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>>165737035

This may seem like a poor comparison but i hope they do what warframe is doing. Warframe is shit and takes itself too seriously but this game is fucking fun to play and if it got the same ammount of updates and close to the rate warframe does i would honestly be happy and content when it. This game can grow ver much and if it adapted disgaea's damage output numbers to minimize the on screen numbers like 200k or 3Mil whenever you hit high numbers at level 300 or some shit i would love it even more. This game is all about climbing the fucking tower and if they just put shit on top of it i would be in love.

one thing i find troubling however is the fact that after the 30th floor you already get to see the top of the tower so early and i just don't see them doing much with it at that point.

I can only hope they go the warframe route of updates and F2P style of marketting but i mean that's that.

Now on the other hand if they added co-op or PVP for ps+ users that would be a real big move for the game itself as the players who already love the game are guaranteed to buy the subscription fee which could only help the game out, right? there's so much shit they can do but it's so damn early we don't know exactly what kind of attitude they are going to have with the game yet.

>>165737181
i could see them adding co op and pvp encounters but not tradintal sense, in re 6 there was this puyo pop type mode, where when you killed things it sent it over on the other players side, it got hard and harder as you went along, and that would be interesting, same thing with co op, with friendly fire enabled, but if players were seperated by a barrier, and could throw over helpful items, it would be nice, and some sort of reward box to dump item in you dont need for ther other player, like melee passing over to the striker, while your striker bro slaps in guns that he finds

>>165737181

>you already get to see the top of the tower so early

The video about the tower states that it's meant to be shifting and growing constantly, so that's their excuse for adding new stuff to it in the way of updates.

>This game is all about climbing the fucking tower and if they just put shit on top of it i would be in love.

Agreed. Pile more floors, more gear, more enemies on top of what's already there and I'll keep playing indefinitely.

>>165737152
Well yeah, I'm not knocking staggering content but the base game is only so long because of the nature of the game rather than time spent producing the content.

Depending on the budget grasshopper is granted by gung-ho, they could probably pump out 10 floors a month if they really wanted to do so. But 10 floors every 2 months with other content spread out in-between seems more likely

The new content required for 10 floors is pretty much :
-1 cutscenes for floor boss
-1 floor boss
-1 type of tuber
-New upgrades for weapons
-Probably one or two new weapons
-Art assets for a new set of floors (not complicated, but art assets take time to make so it could be a bottleneck)

As >>165737181 points out, Warframe manages to shit out content pretty frequently, so it's entirely possible.

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How's the Robber Crossbow? I've always wanted to give it a shot but the fireworks launcher just seemed to be more useful in every situation.

>>165737632
>the fireworks launcher just seemed to be more useful in every situation

Anon...

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>>165737632
>Fireworks launcher
>useful

Pick one.

It's a good weapon to stagger mindless ai yeah but there's better weapons are durability shredding than it by far like the assault rifle.

>>165737682
>>165737768
He's not wrong, Fireworks Launcher is really useful before the flame wand.

>>165737632
What floor are you up to?

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>>165737812
Flame wand has shit capacity and durability though. if you use the special ability once you're just not going to be able to finish shooting all 35 shots.

the only thing i'd buy one for is to make fires on the 30s to cook shit since it can basically be a portable fire.

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Good night lidg

You fuckers are alright.

anything good use chemo-oil?

>>165737814
16, but I generally don't use ranged weapons except for taking out snails or other niche situations

>>165737682
>>165737768
okay but how's the crossbow guys

>>165738360
>okay but how's the crossbow guys
All I can say is nail gun or welding gun is better.

>>165738226
jackal shit and death's scythe.

>>165738360
Dev haters seemed to hit like a truck with them sometimes, but otherwise I think the Nail Gun is a better choice overall (less animation delay, more ammo, faster firing, etc).

So are they going to rebalance the jackals when they add more floors, or do you guys think we'll get new jackals instead?

>>165733951
For me, it healed me when I was TAKING damage. Might be a bug though.

>>165739247
Two irons to a screamer got me from 200 hp to 2000 hp. It was a +4 iron+

>>165736675
What if it's that the Japanese retail copy's decal... is just a real life sticker, that's why it's not found in-game?

you guys were right. goto=stingshroom

>>165730651
they also increase groggy damage, which is the main reason evershrooms are broken

>>165738226
max tier power stomper armor

>Beat Coen on Floor 3 Friday night
>Reach Floor 36 this morning before work
Okay so I really need to grind out some stuff this week. The iron is the only thing that I bothered upgrading.

I'm going to grind out the katana and the rest of the iron upgrades. What armor should I put time into upgrading now that I am at G5 and it's worth it.

>>165742459
irrelevant, go for fashion

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>>165737768

>He doesn't know the FL cooks beasts instantly

Fuck it for doing damage, but being able to insta-cook fish, snails, etc is just too damn useful

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>Get super excited because I finally got 2 CW Red metal up upgrade Masamune Blade to Masamune Blade S.
>see next upgrade needs 3

God fucking damn I can only imagine what +3, +4 will need.

You niggers better be right about the weebsword being the best weapon.

>>165744067
>having issues with a simple 2 minute run
be thankful the fucking bullet metal isn't what increases.

>>165733865
You can throw your snails in the arena before triggering the fight. During the fight you just have to make sure the boss doesn't accidentally kill it.

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How many days until the Skip COEN route kicks in? I want to know how long I have to grind and prepare.

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>>165744210
>2 minute
what? I'm farming the gold chest in F32 and you have to do GOTO and U-10 in that run and it takes an hour...

>>165744651
In what world, go from F37 to Goto.

>>165744517
killing coen is less of a grind than that shit trust me

>>165744964
oh I haven't unlocked that yet. The furthest I've reached is F35.

>Get to GOTO-9 for the first time, ate a crushroom just before triggering the cutscene
>kill it in five hits with machete E, he started glowing red by the last hit
>Didn't even get hit once, all he did was an easily dodged jump slam
Is it meant to be that easy, or did i luck out?

>>165745876
>the first goto-9
Yeah he's piss easy. Just you wait for the one on F23.

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>>165744651
stupid frog poster

>>165745876
If you have Souls experience and mild preparation the game will be a joke until 31+. Then it becomes the fuckzone.

So does U-10 drop Milks?

And does that email mean that Jin-Die had love with Coen and GOTO gave birth to U-10 or what

>>165747629
piss easy if you use shrooms.

>>165721568
>does math
>browse here
>never played game
what kind of nerd are you?

>>165749276
No I played the whole game up to goto 23 without damage mushrooms, only invisible a few times.

>>165749053
Yes, U-10 and Gunkayama are the only bosses that drop Milks, and they only drop reds
I interpreted that email as something more of an experiment by Yotsuyama Group rather than COEN and Jin-Die falling in love and then asking GOTO-9 to be a surrogate mother

So I think I got a glitch. I had a valve turn to blue and it was a green lock on floor map. I opened up the path and could go through but the green lock on fooor map didn't dissappear?

>>165749716
Get used to using sting/crushshrooms, otherwise the fights take forever with the amount of damage you do.

>>165750218
That actually just happened to me too. Just beat U-10, opened up the door, and the green lock still remains.

Is there a cooldown to farming the jackals?

>>165750795
that particular lock on this rotation has a display bug on the map

>>165751015
I dont think so

THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAT BEAT THE FINAL BOSS
THAN PEOPLE THAT ATE 1000 MUSHROOMS

SECRET OF MY SUCCESS

>>165751998
how do these people even manage to put on their pants in the morning

>>165751998
Hilariously I got the achievement just outside of Taro

>all this niggers still playing lid
>on death drive 128 on top of that
>mfw death drive xxx master race
/lidbtttg/ when?

>Share the chaos event
>Physical rewards are us-only
Fuck that

>>165750691
I finished the game.

What's the best place for farming steel? Gotta get that masamune S

>killed COEN 26F
>map appears to show an elevator on the next floor
>its inaccessible because of the another boss
>say fuckit and keep going upwards
>running from T5 saber bitches and Mk4 boners
>fry my 1% decal on the Mk4 reversal tuber
>make it all the way to 30F
>fucked crowley with my stocked transparaguses/pork choppers
And now I'm cheesing 31-33F with grade 1 all-rounders sprinting through. This is faster progress than I think I've ever made in this game.

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>>165752189
>>165752134
>>165751998
>they need the mushroom crutch
lmfao git gud

>>165753356
>not eating every shitshroom from the ground to manage your hunger meter

>>165754139
That's basically why the +def mushrooms exist

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mfw full bank
mfw cali going up to 25 DM from free DMs

>>165753213
It's everywhere. Pretty sure Togose is almost all steel

Apparently at some point in time you stop losing 10% of your bank and spl and it changes to 5%. Ive been capped at 600k+ lost 33600 in a raid and capped at 800k+ and only lost 40800.

What's the difficulty level of 36F Jin Die?

Transparagus and sting and she's dead

>>165757360
Easy. Just take the usual shrooms.

>>165757463
Goddamn I just ran out while exploring

Any faster route than Togose, Nitanda, Shina-Yama, Itanodai for first battle?

>>165757583
Itanodai is Goto.
Jin-die is 38f Ebata.

>>165757583
What? Don't you have hiromatsu? Itanodai is for Goto, after Itanodai there's Hiromatsu and then Jin Die in Ebata

>>165757668
Oh.

Well then I guess then it's good I retreated?

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>>165752951
>floor 40
>out of 128 floors
>finished

Finally unlocked Tier 5.

Shooter, Striker or Attacker?

>>165758593
it doesn't really matter that much

with a katana attacker > shooter > striker

>>165758593
It doesn't really matter that much

with a katana: Shooter > attacker > > Striker > Everything else

>>165758729
Well I am a lucky fuck and just got a Memetana. But will I be able to use upgraded Motor Psycho without Decal?

>>165758879
the post said ratio of str:dex is 4:3 meaning attacker will beat out shooter

>>165758593
Strikers and shooters are better climbers than attackers.
But solely with katanas and dex requirement weapons, this >>165758879

>>165758940
shh, the katana is str:dex 2:3

>>165759034
Please, provide source info on that.

>>165758984
How are they better?

>>165759142
Are you being serious here? Were you even in the last thread?

>>165759150
They have about 2 times as much hp.
Lasting longer for climbs is pretty helpful.
If you only care about damage and plan to burn through guardshrooms, attacker is your guy

>>165759218
Are you talking about the redditor that compared striker and shooter?
If so, yes. Please provide info for the actual ratio.

>>165759278
What's the Stamina situation and meeting Dex requirements with Strikers for upgraded Katana or Motor Psycho?

>>165759356
See this:
>>165701270
>>The very pretty and 'fixed' sheet of class' stats
>http://i.imgur.com/BVA3BWK.png
All the stats are there.

>>165759218
Just checked and only found this:
>>165679652

>>165759278
>Are you talking about the redditor that compared striker and shooter?
Yeah it was striker v shooter, I must have misremembered because I was thinking attacker v shooter

>>165759476
Well yeah but what are the reqs for the upgraded versions

>>165759594
>Additionally, with some more calculation, I found out that the Masamune Blade has roughly a 2:3 STR:DEX ratio or so in terms of it's damage. I'm not sure if this is true for other weapons or higher evolutions of the Masamune Blade, but I'll be adding more tests in the future.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LetItDie/comments/5o5r15/str_vs_dex_damage_calccomparison/

None of my expeditions are yielding any worthwhile shrooms. It's like all the Transparugus and Slowmungus went extinct.
Do certain rooms yield more/less of them?

>>165759719
Not much of difference

>Leveling up new character
>Have legendary hero decal
>oh i know i'll equip it
>accidentally sell it

kill me senpai.

>>165759827
Yes. Just like how you get golden snail when you send expeditions to osaka, if you send fighters to an area with a lot of mushrooms, you're more likely to get more shrooms.

>>165759687
I have no idea. I don't really use STM weapons.

>>165759719
Very well. I'll take your word for it.
No way i'm clicking that filthy link.
And wouldn't 54 str add more damage than 19 dex tho? Supposing both classes are maxed.

>>165759719
if you have perfect roll characters it looks like this if it is exactly 2:3. so really shooter has 3k more hp and is very close

striker: 113.2
shooter: 194.6
attacker: 199.9

>>165760020
>>165760204
>>165760250

Guy hasn't tested shooter v attacker but after running both with it last night their both pretty close in damages. Without shrooms that is.

So best idea is to have a Striker, an Attacker/Shooter and aCollector and the rest are Lucky Stars?

>>165760703
to do what

after enough expeditions your vault will be full. i'm using t5 collectors for space

>>165760703
You gotta have some extra collectors as storage in the freezer so you don't use up all your main storage. For example I have 3 collectors dedicated as storages. One for shrooms, one for rare metal mats and one strictly for golden snails

>>165760703
drop the striker and just make another lucky star

>>165760830
Striker to just climb or explore the tower. And pork chopper

Attacker to Rush bosses and katana it up.

Collectors to clean out maps and store stuff.

Konatas for expeditions

>>165756267
I did some further testing, its not 5% its 5% maximum of what your bank can hold. So If your bank is 800k they will raid 40k if you have 450k or 800k. If you are below the maximum they can take, then they take 10%

>>165763410
Maybe they raid 10% of your current resources, capped at 5% maximum.
Seems reasonable enough.

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Can you find any decal from a stew right off the bat? Or do you have to progress to be able to unlock higher tier decals?

Do jackals only spawn if you've killed every enemy on the floor?

Also, what are the chances of being banned for doing that exploit someone posted last thread? I'm really tempted to try it out but being banned for it would really suck.

>>165763835
>Can you find any decal from a stew right off the bat?
I think so. I hope so.

>Do jackals only spawn if you've killed every enemy on the floor?
Yes

>what are the chances of being banned for doing that exploit
Unknown at the moment. Do it at your own risk.
Last exploit they discovered, they gave a general warning, but no one was banned.
BUT, they did say that they would penalize people if something like that happened again.

>>165763835
>Can you find any decal from a stew right off the bat? Or do you have to progress to be able to unlock higher tier decals?
With the stew you only get premium decals but you can get any premium decal right from the start, but its random. King of the Wolves 4* premium 80% rage increase decal was my first decal from the stew before I had even beat Coen. To buy different decals you'll have to climb the tower and shit though but those aren't premium decals.

so, the Heavy Puncher pants evolve into the King Smasher pants, right?

>>165765062
are... are those skateboard trucks on the knee pads?

...

RAD

>>165764202
>>165764426
That clears things up, thanks

>>165765062
>>165765306
Talking about the King Smasher set... what does the Helmet and the Body look like? I've only seen the pants myself

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>>165765062
>>165765820

>King Smasher pants

Is that what this guy is wearing?

>>165766083
no, those aren't
King Smasher pants look like the Heavy Puncher pants but the shoes are mustard yellow, the spandex and blue and black and the knee pads have skateboard trucks on them where the wheels are bright pinks and greens

>>165766362
So what set of pants is that guy wearing?

>looking for hammer guys to do the ten perfect guard quest
>finally find one in a mat lock room with two other fuckers who almost kill the guy trying to kill me
>finally get rid of them, the dude is down to one hit but is still good
>9/10 perfect guards
>dude drops the hammer and I completely fuck up the timing on the punch
>give up and google the quest to see an easier way to complete it
>iron parry the two tubers on level 1

T-thanks reddit

>>165766457
I have no idea bro