Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

D E A D

>tfw level 181 and don't know what to do.
I haven't even done quests, can't warp anywhere, don't know if to run towards Dina Bee Farm/Siauliai forest or head north to Roxona.

>>165488538
dont get plvld/leeched? play the game?

>>165488778
I was just doing missions and dungeons on this alt the whole time. I don't even remember what quests are like.

>>165488959
>alt

ohh well nvm, that is fine

So with the new cannon buffs, how good is cannon going to be? In terms of dps, I believe they still won't be top tier but they will be at least middle tier. I feel like they will the murms of the archer tree. A bit slow to set up but once there can burst like a fucker. Of course murms will have higher damage than cannons but still this means cannons will be able to at least compete and aren't shit anymore.

I feel like cannon will be now worth building around, instead of damage just tacked on at the end and now the skill points will be very sparse since you'll need to max bazooka now as well.

>>165487234
I want to fuck a ToS slut
Who should I whisper for it

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>>165491690
Anyone in this thread

>>165491690
me

>>165491690
Lolipan will sex anyone who defeats her in GvG
Kinda like the Rance games

>>165487234
dead fucking game.
am i the only one with framerate issues? the cities are practically unplayable for me.
i do run thisin a toaster though

>REALLY need to get the 217 dungeon done a few times to get some levels
>been in queue for 40 minutes
klaipeda is not dead right tosg?

>>165494012
Just grind alemeth

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>>165494012
people do usually not que for 160,200,217,240 dungeons. nothing to do with ded gam

217 and 240 should be decent exp nowadays but most people still rush them only and grind/quest for exp

so is alemeth the best zone to grind from 217 to 225 as >>165494179 said?
I'm running a cleric2diev3miko and I'm feeling really weak right now, I really hope I get PD soon

>>165494413
>Miko
>Weak
Hamaya is strong as fuck.

>>165494520
yeah but other than hamaya there's only owl for skills to hit flying creatures

i want to come back

but don't know if i should

>>165494851
Thing is you don't need anything other than hamaya

>>165492013
Someone should make a list

>>165494249
217 gives shit exp even if you're lvl 217, but that doesn't prevent people from queueing up for it on Silute. Cuckpeda is just that ded.

>>165493113
>am i the only one with framerate issues? the cities are practically unplayable for me.

They fixed it last patch, so it's just you.

>>165494012
A general rule of thumb is that people only queue for 50, 90, 115, 130, 145 and 190 dungeons. People mostly form parties for 217 and 240 for drops, not for exp, since the alternatives (grinding and questing) make much better use of your time if you are looking for levels. For your level, it'd be grinding in alemeth or doing quests if the parties are full.

>>165495727
monkeys are dumb as fuck

>>165491690

Healmage

>>165495727
more like
>silute niggas are to stupid to do meth

Klaipedo is ok. go grind nigga
or even quest/maps. getting Rank7 is and always was easy

>>165494249
>>165495875
>No one remembers 175 exists

>>165494413

200-24x Alemeth
24x-27x Storage
26x-29x Maven Abbey
28x-31x Timerys Temple

Found a hidden interaction between Rogue's Backstab & Hackapelle skills. I haven't seen many Hackapelles in game nor many discussions about this class but it buffs up backstab damage by 40-50kx2.

>>165494413
I level up a diev3mikoPD2 from lv 180 to 317 in 2 days. Alameth can be done solo but you're better off with a party. 250 up you can quest until PD2 and do everything alone from that point. Lhadar forest till 290. 290 dungeon full with cookie + x4tome to 300. Then solo/party tymeris till 317.

>>165497213
Prove it

>>165497580

I'm trying to re-create it, I just found it now by mistake. My backstabs do 81kx2 and by using Storm Bolt + stacks + Calvary it shoot up to 141kx2.

>>165497938
How the fuck would a skill with 1.5k base damage hit 140k?

>>165498173

I think it has to do with the Karacha set, now I'm desperately trying to do it again cause this is huge.

>>165493113
I'm in Fedimian right now on a system that hits the minimum system requirements exactly and I'm getting 11-15 fps. Either you don't know what unplayable is or you haven't turned everything off, switched to low mode (not disable), and edited user.xml to turn more off and reduce actorpersent.

>>165497213
>backstab damage by 40-50k
No need for Hacka for that.

Backstab scales hugely with crit attack, 100 of it are around 5k damage at 0 attribute.

>>165498958
>no need for hacka for that
>the one class that lets you have twice as much crit attack

>>165498958

That's not the point, I used Hackapelle skills and it shot up my damage by 40k, 140kx2 (280k) damage for whatever skill combination i did just now.

>>165494851
Literally git gud, how do you think diev's levelled before miko? Again, git gud.

>>165497938
>>165498308
I've always believed in you rogue-anon! Ganbatte, redefine the meta. You were born to do this

>>165499537
How all the dievs leveled before all the fixes and buffs, that's a true mystery

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>GBL is about to start
>Futureproof recruiting

Any last minute joiners wanna do GBL or the upcoming open-world?

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>>165499881
>no one in this picture is from OG FP
It hurts famtachi

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>Golden Bell Shield is getting buffed so that it can be used every 9 seconds at 5/5 but the effect only lasts 2 seconds
AAAAAAAaaaaa

>>165497938

are you sure that a hoplite didn't used spear lunge

numbers match

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>>165499881
I got like a Lv 7x Alt Account. Can i just join your 'guild' and get like 1400 TP for free?

I can pretend to be a small asian part-time working neet girl.

>>165500640

it has a 0,5 lingering effect

maybe you can chain melstis with this

>>165501004
>kriv3monk3
???????????

>>165500865

I'm solo hunting for horns

>>165500990
FP gets no TP lmao

>>165501004
That depends on how IMC implements it. It sounds like a pretty small window to get melstis up before it wears off. That aside, it also depends on people actually stacking on you, but let's face it, How many times have you even seen someone use Golden Bell Shield?

>>165500159
No one on any team is from the original team eventually. Anon is figuring out how time flow works.

>>165499881
So eager to announce to the whole server that a feeder guild will be queueing.
You should do that on the shout too.

And new recruits probably can't even gbl during their first week.

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>>165501236
>>165499881
Oh wow, what a fucking scam guild recruitment post.

is it worth it to play without spending money? i want warp scrolls but im not gonna pay real money for them

>>165501423
How do I look exactly like Koito ingame?

>>165501476
Yes. I've only spent money once on the early access pack and have 5 r9 characters.

>>165501476
You can buy them with daily free TP capped to 5. Just takes long to get some.
They cost 2 TP in KTOS and free TP regenerates faster there. IMC hates iTOS.

Just buy a Token in market and play for free. I didnt gave any money to IMC after EarlyAccess.

>>165501725
>They cost 2 TP in KTOS
I mean'd they cost 1 there. Soul Crystals (i think) are 2 TP each.

hello /tosg/ i had an urge to play an mmorpg and remembered i wanted to give ToS a shot for a good while now. im downloading the game atm and plan on making a support character (buffs and heals or wichever is most efficient of the two) with the idea of getting to form a party with friends or strangers anywhere i go wich class and build would you guys suggest?
Also dubs can name my character (it will be a female)

>>165501725
how can i get this daily TP? my tp is always zero

>>165501401
My memory is hazy, was it a week or 5 days?

>>165501401
nu-fp BTFO

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>>165501932
1 generated all 4 Hours, also if you are offline.
Maxed at 5, use them for something to generate more.

That shit bugs sometimes tho

post cute!!

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>>165503808
Cute?

>>165498706
>edited user.xml
link for that pls?

>>165501915
You'll want to go cleric if you want to heal, the best support in the game however is either a cryochrono or chronolinker. Full support characters in the cleric line aren't super popular because clerics can both damage and support so many party comps would prefer a cleric that is able to contribute to dpsing.

The standard cryo3chrono3sage is a great build. Cryo or pyro1link2chrono3sage is also good

If dubs "Coxollow

operation shield lob has finished

looking for a test subject for proof of concept

please reply here / whisper swaaz ingame so i can enlighten people on pelt2 not being completely pointless

>>165506194
Fuck off.

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>>165506194
forgot le normie pic
>>165506420
make me

>>165501915
You'll want to go cleric if you want to heal, the best support in the game however is either a cryochrono or chronolinker. Full support characters in the cleric line aren't super popular because clerics can both damage and support so many party comps would prefer a cleric that is able to contribute to dpsing.

The standard cryo3chrono3sage is a great build. Cryo or pyro1link2chrono3sage is also good

If dubs "Coxollow"

queue for gvg nerds

queue for gvg nerds

I know 3 guilds that are queueing right now on Klaip, yet there is only 1 match. Explain this tostards.

>>165508057
>3 guilds that are queueing right now
who

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Anon, tell me what keeps you playing this game?

>>165508880
the game is steadily improving
in 3 years this mmo will be the best on the market

just started playing, what should i do with old gear? sell it to town merchant or is there something like destroying the gear to get some mats from it?

>>165509482
With actual state of new players it's more likely to die in few months. But it doesn't really anwser my question.

>>165509482
with 10 players left

>>165508880
i don't i only shitpost here

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Can someone tell me when its ok to stop using Cafrisun?

>>165509985
new players will come with good updates
as we've witnessed recently
http://steamcharts.com/app/372000

>>165497538
what is PD2?

>>165510439
its ok until 200 or 220 or so

>>165510439
kek'd

Could someone put a weapon polisher in Orsha Ch1? I would consistently pay you 2x the amount that Fedi polishers charge just because it's much more convenient for me and a few friends.

>>165510439
If you put lvl 5 yellow gems in them you can use them until R7

If not just switch it for any decent def armour and eventually get knights armour with 2 lvl 4 yellow gems in each slot. Cheap to make and will last you up to and depending how fucked you can be beyond

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Worth it

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FUKCING CRIMSON YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GOING TO QUEUEEEEEEEE

>>165511195

how fucking sad, glad im out of that guild

>>165510516
I thought they just came back for the rank reset.

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>>165511774
Nice

>>165511420
>losing to crimson

I can't believe these people.

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>>165511281
>shes believing Crimson

Everyone's playing today there's like 5 guilds to dodge it's not doable

>>165509809
bump

>>165511281
w-who said that

>>165512418
Yes. Just get Cafrisun and keep it until r7.

>go to some very high level area as low lv bokor
>follow someone, get some zombies
>rape low lv content

nice

He did it again

Pleas ignore it

>>165509809
Sell gear. Get Cafrisun. >>165510857
Armor problems are solved for the next 60 or so hours of gameplay.

Post screencaps, I'm not ingame.

>kazuto finally gave in and is playing a kabba cancer inq in TBL

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Have you experienced despair today?

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>>165514735
This is not your fault anon. Kim tricks all of us with those cardboard boxes. I'm proud of you for working so hard

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>>165515267

hunter facts

>if pet is chain-stunning you AND you manage to knock out the pet with 1hp, he will still continue to chain stun you
>if pet is chain stunning you while the hunter kills you, you wont be able to move at all in second round
>hunters only play hunters to be cancer, and will argue with you saying its a "hard" class to play

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>>165515767
who argues it's hard?
It's pretty damn easy

>>165515767
hunter facts

>mouse targeting still doesn't work and the pet will fuck off to the closest valid target every time
>objects are valid targets
>pet can't ever latch onto moving targets
>your main damage skills don't work on bosses
>your AoE is nonexistent
>pet will randomly break and stop following you around for no reason until you get a loading screen
>once a target is hit by coursing and/or retrieve, it's done for
>damage against flying enemies is retarded for a rank 5 class
>damage against ground enemies is pitiful

Hunter is an all-or-nothing class.

>>165516367
kek

>>165516367

>pet can't ever latch onto moving targets

lmao. also, that battle bird can seend and destroy a dashing foot swordsman

>>165516367
case and point, yet another hunter trying to play the victim card when theyre the most broken class

boohoo

>>165516367
retard

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>>165515767
>>165516367
>shitposting about someone who isnt T1
>who has proven to beat meta builds with sheer willpower
>can 2 hit beet's inquisitor AND HAS DONE SO multiple times
>beet can only win if he hides in ausrine and only approaches during ausrine otherwise he runs away until its back on rotation
>needing to be a tryhard against a squire3
for fucks sake, my rank is low because it hasnt reset from when i used to que as squire3. for the 50th god damn time i cant even get into TBL matches because my rank wont reset. i que for 60 mins and not once do i get into a fight.
stop implying im shit how about you 1vs1 me then? my rank isnt resetting and you have no right to shitpost and damage control against a squire3 low-tier class like really dont you have something better to do like complain about ausrine or getting 1 hit constantly?
fight be bitch if u think ur soo good, judging me based off of my squire3 rank 7 rank which cant be reset? youre trash
headbutt does 15k damage twice, unless you run around like some pussyfooted faggot who only approaches during ausrine and uses dispellers so i cant use arrest in town pvp then you legit have no reason to gloat when you need to be meta T1 just to beat lowest tier ingame.
heres video of a scenario in which 100% of any cookie cutter sheeple glass build would of just gotten 1-hit from any of the clerics moves, and again i literally get into NO matches at all. id have a ton more footage if i didnt que for 60 mins straight and never get in a match
>HAHA XDXD why you soo autistic stop sperging out spastic

wtf u want me to do when these jackasses insist that im shit but refuse to fight me 1vs1?

>>165514735
Naaaahhhhhhhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yOjZS4x_FE

>>165516342
the retard below you lmao
>>165516367
fuck off azebu

>>165516367
The biggest problem is vs a cata because you have to aim for the players head and only the head
if you miss and hit the catas pet it wont go off
this plus desync it can be pretty hard to land

>>165516641
>theyre the most broken class
Can't argue with that. They need to fix our bugs.

Got a question and probably nobody knows the answer but gonna ask anyway, does Power Staff's bonus damage on melee C attacks also apply to additional damage lines or just the first one?

>>165517110
yes

>>165517268
Yes it applies to additional damage lines or vague "yes I don't know"

>>165517414
yes

>>165517414
yes

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ded

Tree of savior 2 when?

>>165517414
yes

>>165519968

you told me that you're going to visit that thaumaturge mistress to help with your "painful headaches", but it seems that you went there to get a back pain

fucking slut

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>>165520038
Soon

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>>165516367
>>165516342
Reminder that Beethoven's Hunter is #1 in 2vs2 PVP

>>165522642
top kek, because 1/6 attempts i managed to 2vs1 that cancer fucker few hours ago. dank video montage #2 wont disappoint

>>165522831
Wtf I love Swaaz now

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>>165522642
>>165522831
>In babby-mode PvP that no one plays where all you need is a positive win rate to be top 20
>Swaaz's score

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>>165522642

>Reminder #4

Stupid hunters and Featherfoots!

I was going to get #1 and I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

>>165523119
did you not even read me saying 1/6 attempts?

the fuck else you expect me to do when i have useless partner + hunters are broken as hell?

get triggered faget

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>>165523146
Uhmm Beets can you please show me your "rifle"? Kininarimasu!

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>>165523229
Figures, you just play the RNG game with your garbage character that has shitty hit rate and shitty block pen and cherrypick the parts where you manage to land hits on them and stun them. But at least you're not as bad this faggot. Why didn't you go Corsair? There are plenty of Murmillos that are quite useful because of that Hook Combo.

>>165523328

6 cm

>>165522642
What kind of person do you have to be to roll a full con hunter that is good for literally nothing else though?

>>165524349
a Winner Type?

>>165524349
Full CON hunter can farm 315 orange mats just fine.
What else is there to do in this game but PvP and gearing up for PvP, anyway? ERP?

>>165524438
Winner types would be playing the actual ranked mode for titles and statues though Trying to be king of 2v2s is like being determined to become tic-tac-toe world champ.

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>>165524349
Someone who likes spanking people
That's why he's my daddy!!

>>165524638
Kora go home you're drunk

>>165524584
apparently his build is very good for making some people very salty. that is enough reason :^)

Hunter x Hunter is fun

>>165525280
t-the manga?

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>>165525321
No.

Beetho x Kora!

>>165525414
I am disgusted yet aroused

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>>165525414

>>165525414
Someone post the edit

PLEASE I need it for my Hunter research

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>>165525695
>edit
Naah, they all suck. We need more real fan art.

>>165524349
Don't get so TRIGGERED because someone likes tbl

How someone can take seriously the PVP aspect of this game

should i get virtov leather or virtov plate on a fencer?

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>>165524967
That wasn't me!

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>fighting beets in TBL

>>165526548
leather glove and shoes rest whatever

>>165527070
Just kill the pet with Invocation up.

>>165528220

big surprise

>>165528220
Who is that?

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>>165525695

https://m.imgur.com/a/MYg5r

Level 317 and still running Bandit Armor.
Should I try to save up for Virtov or Lolipantsu? The Virtov Pants and Armor are going for 1.8 mill each.

WHAT IS THE FLAVOR OF THE MONTH CLASS NOW THAT ELEMEME IS DEAD

>>165529396
MONK

>>165529396
Clerics

>>165529396
WL2 for farming
Pyro3Chrono3 wizard meta
Dragoon/Fencer for DPS
Miko Kabba Inq for PvP memes
Musket for stroking butts

>>165529396
Pyro2Link2 with Agny

>>165529396
Similar question: Five hammer or ludos for Pyro2?

>>165529539
ele3 warlock 2 still a thing>>>???

>>165529870
>Ludas Staff
is shit. +1 on Pyro lvls is shit.

>>165530065
old Elem3WLs

or something_else_WL2 like wiz3,link2 or thaum

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>>165529345
>but...your build is shit

>>165529384
Roll the cube and farm the mats for virtov unless you almost done farming lolo

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>>165528220

>>165532947

Did he seriously said that? LMAO that explains why the guild is fucking dead

>>165533115
FUCKING DED IiL LET YOU FUCKING KNOW WE HAVE A WAITING LIST YOU FUCKING LITTLE BABBY BRAIN MORE LIKE BABY DICK LMAO XD

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>>165533258

Look at this reserved slots!!!! so many people playing, so alive!

>>165533115
>>165533258
>>165533831
What do we do about the Cats problem?

>>165533948

Kick him in the ass, and close FP forever

I have about 10m saved. Is it worth upgrading my r7 skills first or should I just dump them all on my r8 skills? I have about 50-60 ish on my essential skills r7 skills while 40-50 on my r8's.

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>>165533948
Nothing. We dont have to.

>@everyone Futureproof wants to play Overwatch! Do you guys wanna join our team? We have 2 spots open!

He'll like that. Play less TOS each day, more of that. And after a while uninstall TOS.

>>165534269
Who still has ToS installed? Are the servers even online anymore?

>>165534512
Yes. Many still play daily.

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>>165534512
dvine, just because you got salty and rage quit that doesn't mean other people will be a cry baby like you

>>165535443
I don't know who that is. I was just memeing.

>>165535217
this was me after i finished that quest

>>165535217
P L U M P

>>165535217
F A T T Y

>>165532947
why doesnt cats just pass the lead on to someone else that wants to try and lead the guild instead?

>>165535217
I really like this, I would bang the shit out of her thicc ass more than the unrealistic anorexic bitches you see in most anime style art

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>>165532947
Not everyone can handle all of TOSG hating them. Not everyone can handle leading a guild that's in a rut. I've done it before, and I'll do it again. Futureproof dies when I say.

That's why Loli made me lead, and not someone else. Fuck the haters. Join futureprroof, the guild, that will still be around when yours isn't.

PM cats.

>>165537859

>Futureproof dies when I say
>>165532947

>>165533831

Did you said it already?

>>165537859
Futureproof has sank like a rock since you took lead and it's only been two or three months. You don't even play the game.

why are innocent noobies so cute

>>165534148
Depends on your class

>>165538441
Because they're easy to defile

>>165538918
but that's against the law

>>165539020
Only if you get caught

>>165533258
I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT I CONTROL THE SERVER AND CAN USE MY INFLUENCE AND POWER TO RUIN YOU BY TALKING TO MY COUNCIL OF POWERFUL INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS MYSELF

>>165539084
who is the strongest of tosg

>>165539030
under divine law set by the goddesses you will always get caught

>>165539713
Maybe I want to get caught

So are they ever going to address the load times in this game? I mean it tacks a fucking long time sometimes just to even change channels.

What do you guys think of this?

Cleric 3 -> Priest 1 -> Monk 3

I'm just wondering what I should take or do for rank 8 and the future. Maybe lycan druid?

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>>165510439
I can't wait to become an oracle and kill these shits

>>165541054
you wish

>>165541054
Feels bad when there aren't even bots in Orsha anymore.

>>165510439
I'm still using cafrisun at 260. The extra damage is good and I don't have any problems with defense.

>Barbarian 3 + Squire 3
>Scout 3 + Cannoneer 2
>Cleric 3 + Monk 3

Interesting to see these combinations pop up ever since that news post about balance.

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very sad to see the general in this condition.
I hope to see some of the original posters from beta days in Peria, whenever that happens later this year.
for now, I suggest you give up on the general.

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>>165543009

>>165543009
Ugh, don't ruin that game for me with you fags.

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>>165543009
>my retards from beta were better than today's retards because I miss them

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>>165543914
Peria is guaranteed to have an awful ERP general like tera, bns, ffxiv etc.
just join a normie group and never ever look back.

>>165542576
God I dread the day the new War Cry comes out

Squire3 is going to become the new Catacancer.

>>165544250
why

>>165543980
I know of several oldies from beta who still lurk (though rarely post) that are probably the best this shitty game can produce as players go.

>>165543009
I dunno, the general is dead and there's not much to talk about. The only thing that could liven things up is probably having a guild that wants to actually progress and pile some of the better players together. Having nightly gvg talk, guild raids for fun, just doing stuff in general together and using this place more like a chat to reminisce or something where everyone knows each other.. might be okay.

Unfortunately most don't want that and these threads are bloated with avatarfags (though not as much these days) or just shitposting/namedrops.

My suggestion? Someone actually decent at the game become a guild leader and have other tosg who are serious in advancing into shit line up for it.

Make friends and do shit together, get your buddies to chat with and farm those horrid orange mats together.

>>165544424
Warcry with Arrest will result in a 20 second bind on 16 different targets that cuts physical defense by 50%. If you somehow manage to survive that in PvP you get a 14 second slow afterwards.

>>165544621
>arrest
>rank 1 debuff
Why the fuck would that be stronger than restrain's stun?

>>165544621
how do you cast warcry when you charge up arrest?

Elememes sure loves to make it rain when there are Pyros around. Fireball: Umbrella attribute when?

>>165537859
In the event that you somehow manage 10th place and get 500 TP for your entire guild. How do you split it in a fair way? Does it just all go to Healmage?

>>165545091
Cats doesn't know how to distribute TP, so that seems quite possible.

>>165545091
Healmage provides the whole guild with free ERP so it's only fair

>>165544989
You'd use Warcry while the debuff is already in place. It's going to extend all debuffs in place by 10 seconds.

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>>165545074
When we get Fireball: Glue.

>>165545517
Fireball: Glue
When hit by a melee attack, the fireball will now stick to the attacker's weapon.

>>165545384
if only it was a c2 attribute, it would make barb2rod3murm's the new meta murm

>>165545665
Catas can do that.

>>165549181
God damnit you were supposed to let it die already!

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>>165549509
No.

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>>165549617
yes

>JP+HK+SB with additional damage attribute seems good on paper
>additional damage applies first before the 2x exp/loot effect
fuck

Did rogue anon ever find out how to make backstabs give huge bonuses with hakka skills?

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>>165549509
>>165549705
Okay.

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>>165505673
So wait... you're telling me the best support class starts on the mage class?
Im not against it but it surprises me that the cleric class is expected to be dps when they have stuff like heals and revives.
Are potions good enough to stay healthy or what?

>>165552592
>expected to be dps when they have stuff like heals and revives
All that matters is melstis and ausrine, so it's natural to expect you to do more shit than cast two skills.

>>165552714
Reading their descriptions i can see why...
So if i want to have a support more focused on utility i should go for the buffs of the mage class then. Do they have any must have skills?

>>165553195
support Wiz meta are
>Wiz1 Cryo3 Chrono3 Sage
or
>Wiz1 Cryo1 Link2 Chrono3 Sage

Cryo for freeze and grouping(frost pillar) skills

Linker for OP damage amplification

Chrono for Haste and Pass and Quicken

Sage for Missile Hole

I wish agny made people go thaum-enchanter for support so I could have super ultra fireballs.

>>165553484
>Wiz1 Cryo1 Link2 Chrono3 Sage
Is frost pillars so good that even without Cryo3 it's good to have the skill?

>>165553986
You need Cryo3 for that skill. And it is really good.
But cant have Linker with that.

Pyro1 is shit for a SupportLinker because Supports go full CON and Fireball Lv5 is shit. So you take a little CC from Cryo1.

>>165553484
>>165553986
For the Linker variation could you put in Pyro instead of Cryo for the Agny power?

>>165554380
That would still be shit.
No INT and Fireball Lv5 has 5 hits only.

What happens if you go 15 physical link? Can you link pets and summons too or something? More than anything what was IMC thinking with it having 15 levels?

>>165554537
Nothing much, Forecast used to have 10 levels and it had not a single difference from 1 to 10. They simply do not play the game.

>>165554537
You will maybe get kicked from the party or ppl will call you a fag and they will run far to break it asap.

>>165554243
I'd be okay with only having Cryo1 for the OP damage of the linker but why is it not a waste to go Cryo1 instead of Pyro1 or Wiz2 ?

>>165554827
Wiz2 gives nothing.
Pyro1 is shit.

Cryo1 at least has some freeze.

>>165554827
Wiz2 only offers Surespell and you don't need that. With Cryo1, you can freeze oponents with Ice Bolt and Ice Pike and you can help Kinos with your Ice Wall.

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Is the game saved? It might hit peak players similar to back in October today.

>>165554694
People will do that if you cast Spiritual Chain on them too, so that doesn't matter. BTW is it Spiritual Chain or Physical Link that lets you warp people with you as a kino. I remember hearing some trick like that.

>>165554827
Because meta build. Follow it like you asked or don't and go Pyro 2 Linker Chrono 3 Sage or some shit. Flame ground if you did go Pyro 1 and get int and Agny for whatever reason would do some damage and honestly, you could clone your fireballs and even though they'd be shitty fireballs, they would do damage with agni.

>>165554827
Cryo1 can freeze for CC.

>>165555241
>go Pyro 2 Linker Chrono 3 Sage or some shit.
Link1 is trashy too. Pyro1 sucks even with INT. Noone cares about tiny DPS from a support.
There are reasons why meta is meta.

If you want a Pyro.. make one with DMG and not support.

What's the share limit for party queue? I.e. if I'm 291 what level can my party be for the 290 dungeon?

>>165555685
I think its 20 or 19 Lv higher

Reminder you can always go cryo 3 linker 2 ff 2 for a balanced mix of support, solo power and fucking broken beyond imagination PvP

>>165555776
So broken that Karga rerolled it into a kino3

Cryo3 is just not that good anymore in pvp

>>165555657
Honestly, I've never seen a cryo 1 do anything relevant with cryo 1 to validate having that over cryo 3 either.

>>165555926
2v2 isn't real PvP, son
Cryo 3 is still what carries GBL together with dievs

>>165555776
>>165555926
'PvP' is just getting more retarded all few patchs

>>165556001
No its the opposite
GBL isn't real pvp
It's just dievstacking

The real pvp is 5v5 as our korean overlord Kim intended
*as shown by the statues*

>>165556165
so apparently a statue in some shitty town nobody but ERPers care about is better than infinite TP

right

Dethrone: Remove Knockback when? Unless you have a Cryo3 in the party, you'll always annoy your teammates scattering all the mobs.

How woudl PVP be on tosg's private server?

>>165557650
shit

>>165555990
>Honestly, I've never seen a cryo 1 do anything relevant with cryo 1 to validate having that over cryo 3 either.
Oh, I dunno... maybe link things????

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why is this literal bot in lotus?

>>165558445
>Link things
>Validating cryo 1 over pyro 1 if not going cryo 3
backread

>>165558986
Those phonetic names, man.

>>165555990
What is 125% of shield pdef as mdef?

>>165559346
Nothing that's helping the party

>>165559567
Being dead isn't helping your party

>>165559718
If your party isn't dying without it, why are you? You aren't limited by the armor or gems or anything you can have, plus you're bringing missile hole, and plus you already are going full con since you're being useless for damage anyway.

>>165558986
for you to envy, of course.

>>165559885
Because you're supposed to initiate each engage, you're a fucking cryo.

>>165559885
>and plus you already are going full con since you're being useless for damage anyway.
and that is why Pyro1 is also useless, even more useless than Cryo1

>>165559972
his gear is shit though

>>165559025
freeze > shitty fireball damage
every single day of the year

>>165560083
Yea but if some full int wiz can survive without con or your mdef, and since you have missile hole anyway, who not go full int too? But realistically it doesn't matter because besides there being nothing stopping you from having the same armor as everyoen else, there's also nothing stopping you from having the same weapon. You could slap on 3 damage hats, get a good weappon, pop in some gems, transcend it and it wouldn't matter if you were full con. full spr, or whatever the fuck.

>>165560257
>Flame ground.

And don't tell me those 2-3 enemies that got froze with your skills is really helping anyone kill them better. You could be busy casting literally anything else.

>>165560309
Pyro1 is still shit with all that. It needs C2 at least.
Rather make a real dps build if you get int + dmg gear

>>165555241
>is it Spiritual Chain or Physical Link that lets you warp people with you as a kino
Physical Link, confirmed it. Does not work with Sage blink sadly.

>>165560520
I wonder if it works with levitate

>>165553484
You could also do Wiz1Cryo1Link3Chrono3 if you are willing to go full support cuck for a static party.

No Sage means this build is worse for pvp, though.

>>165561953
Musketeers should be able to kill birds

>>165561953
>birdemic.jpg

What happens when a homunculus dies?(Of age) Does it explode or something? Mine's gonna expire in the morning so I don't know if I'll be awake to watch.

>>165564248
you have to hold a funeral and bury it before you can make another one

>>165560413
>And don't tell me those 2-3 enemies
So you don't know what you're talking about. Okay.
>Flame ground.
>on a full con sup
Retarded and useless.

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I sort of wish I had a beloved shop.

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>Knite

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>>165566032
Kinte!

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>>165566159
>not being a Knite of House Skull

>>165545305

Then its not free, she is getting paid for her slutty services

lancer meta build?

>>165568932
Sw3,Cata3,Templar,Lancer

>>165560413


cryo has (your shield's defense) 125% free mdef attribute
cryo can freeze after the hangman pull shit for more than 10 seconds with ice bolt 3x pike 2x
and I don't need to tell you all the icewall (even lv 7) utility

>>165569151
>templar

>>165568932
Sword HL 3 Cata 3 Lancer

>>165568932

s3 cata 3 <corsair> lancer

corsair is the best for pvp, but pelt is also an option (both for pvp and pve)

if you want to try a pve lancer, you can go:

sw 1 pelt hop 1 cata 3 hop 2 lancer 1 they do decent pve damage and spear lunge finestra 10 rox just hope for better dps skills at c2 otherwise you're a watered dragoon 2 with more utility

can mix highlander too but kektar stroke dismounts or cataless lancer (wut)

>>165569151
Why not Sw3,Cata3,Dragoon,Lancer? Is the damage from Dragoon 1 too insignificant?

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>>165545305

>>165570059
Dragoon1 sucks.

>>165570059
The only reason you'd fit dragoon c1 into something would be for the 10% more damage to bosses attribute.
Lancer is not a boss killer, so no point in doing that.

>>165568932

My lancer is sw 3 cata 3 doppel lancer

Cyclone's pretty much a second and third rush and the mount add-on makes dismounting a non-issue

>>165570104
what's so bad about rubbing her kitty?

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what do

>>165572751

Make a purple 315, use it to farm orange 315 mats, then trade it to someone for a practo

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when will he come back? r9?

>>165575180
We
need
Rance
to lead us

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>>165575463

>>165575180
no

if he quits FF or takes a break, Cunts will drag him into OW

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>go dungeon
>1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 37.000+ ded
well fuck you too Kim, that isn't fun or fair

Can someone link me the PvP Fencer build please thanks

What does Cannoneer's Bazooka skill actually do? Roots you in place and then adds 200% of your cannon's attack damage and some range to your basic attacks? Can it stack with running/kneeling shot, and will it add the same amount of damage to all damage lines or just the first hit?

>>165579674

>pvp fencer

you need godly skills or a lot of money, both if possible

otherwise just go dethrone

>>165579970
>full dex
>10m or whatever for a venier
>5m or whatever invested in balestra fente: enhance
>hover mouse over the enemy, press hotkey
>they die

I don't see either godly skills or lots of money involved. You don't even need gems, weapon enhancement or trans to one hit people.

>>165580565
You need enough defenses to walk up to people without getting slaughtered and to be able to wait around for somebody to break r7 so you don't kill yourself though. Also full con whales don't pop to weak Fencers.

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>>165580803
oops

>>165579004
wut?

>>165555926
>>165556001
Cryo3 is still good PvP support, Frost Pillar can do a few things better than Kino (like kill the enemy team's fps).
But as a setup for FF BC, it's pretty unreliable and bad.

>>165560647
It does not, Levitation also breaks any friendly links on you when you use it.

>>165583545
Getting 1shot by faggoty furymobs which usually do 1dmg

>>165582646
wow op, and soon you can even use wizard skills

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>>165580565

the only classes you can meme one shot with balestra are weak archers and swordies at the 200~50 pool, int mage/cleric when you get to the top 20 shit gets scary people hard counter you with very high crit resist + aias (you basically have 10% crit rate now) or VERY OP shit like hunters (the dex ones you can try to javelin then but the best ones are a 1:3 scenario and you'll need to be very good on C block to catch their snipes). musketeer's also got a accuracy attribute that shits on your evasion memes unless you out gear the guy a lot (like you boots stage 4 while he's using a stage 0 gloves) so your shield and timing is everything

cloth top kills your damage but at least preparation ignores it (the damage bonus ignores armor type so no extra damage on leather but no reduction on cloth) but that's when balestra attributes makes the difference. Assuming you scored a crit, kek.

you need uncanny iron hook skills since you have limited gap closer spells so you'll need to rely on restrain stun/slow if possible AND you might also need to use balestra just to get closer to your targetafter the hook. also, if you get him in a weird position, you'll need to use cartar stroke/C shield turn to reach him. fleche is amazing as a follow up to that because of the range, so is aufer (good hitbox) but fleche's lack of attributes and that fact that you'll barely crit 1/9 hits on full con aias is hardly enough. and the possible misses on FAT archers and mounted faggots with p2w pets

balestra cr reduction helps a lot but it means that balestra itself will hardly crit

mages are easier to deal now with the mdef rank up + 2-3 nuaeles (you still need at least 5~6 ellaganos) but again it's a money war. learn to snap shot everysingle bit of mdef you have before entering the tbl map but you'll still get CC'd to SHIT since pain barrier alone won't cut without SPR

there's so much things I could tell you but fuck 2k length. you need money or miracles to play this class

>>165585519
>iron hook skills
>people still pretend this skill needs skill to land

just so we dont forget a couple of things regarding pyro1link2chrono3

full con isnt needed, pass makes miracles happen, link2 makes miracles happen, you wont kill yourself in solo play, you have a stationary link target that wont crumble(this was before agny)

your party was never your party if they micromanage having fucking pike freezes as if mobs dont straight up disappear once linked. the bulk of utility is coming from the later classes, early flavor boils down to how much you value your own time

long live agny

>>165586759
Pyro 1 is shit

>>165586759

cryo 1 is better

>>165586759
Obviously you're set on pyro1, to the point of ignoring meta logic, so just go ahead and make your snowflake.

>>165586759
make your shit pyro1 build, have fun, but its still shit

>>165586759
You're missing the point of why people want cryo1.
Hint: it's an attribute.

>>165588049
>Not applicable in GvG or TBL

>>165588492
>doesn't even know the right attribute
(You)

>>165586759

cryo CC shit almost forever when needed (and it happens a lot at r8., tymeris temple and 290 dg is not the endgame, lol)
link resistant mobs: you'll do what? enchant fire autos? 1 damage fireballs?

the only thing that goes for pyros are if you have smart people who understand that they cna multiply their aoe damage on bosses by attacking your fireballs too but not every skill works and icewall is better for this

pyro takes objetives (1 damage stuff you need to break) better unless someone can abuse your icewall (like rush, monk and etc) but that's it

also, cryomancer has a godly defensive attribute that gives your shield's defence as mdef. it's 125%, that's A LOT


you want pyro just to have an easier lv 120-200 leveling? lol do it for the costume if you really want, faggot. cryo is the cutest anyway