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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, January 9th:
681 – Twelfth Council of Toledo: King Erwig of the Visigoths initiates a council in which he implements diverse measures against the Jews in Spain.
1349 – The Jewish population of Basel, believed by the residents to be the cause of the ongoing Black Death, is rounded up and incinerated.
1431 – Judges' investigations for the trial of Joan of Arc begin in Rouen, France, the seat of the English occupation government.
1957 – British Prime Minister Sir Anthony Eden resigns from office following his failure to retake the Suez Canal from Egyptian sovereignty.


>News
CK2 DD36 - The Witching Hour
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-36-the-witching-hour.993525/

EU4 - 13/12
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-13th-of-december-2016.988299/


>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V9
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

Old Thread >>165008548
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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^white and based
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>>165091856
W&B
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>>165091856

blowing the fuck out of our enemies thread after thread

gott mit uns
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>tfw no Code Geass gsg
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>>165091126
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Is Johan, dare I say, /ourguy/?
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>>165092318
Memory fuzzy but wasnt there a DH cose gease mod that took place like 20 years before the start of the anime? also I recall in the map they show one time there is a neutral african state surrounded by brittania whats up with that.
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>>165092376
Don't play Holland
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>>165092629
too bad i've already sank about 10 hours into this game and still havent gone through 100 years thanks to the mod
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NWO or HoI4 Modern Day Mod lads? Which represents post-WW2 more accurately?
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>>165092763
kill yourself then
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for ck2, does city tax only affect counties where the main holding is a city? most of my counties have castles I think. does that mean the Large city tax doesn't work there?
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Societies in CK2 seem like an interesting additional. I might end up buying or pedophirating Monks and Mystics.
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>>165093230
see my previous post here >>165092984
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Reposting to see if anyone has some suggestions on how to turn this around.

>>165015079
Prepared for a year, my puppets were gearing up, had just a war with Bulgaria for some Turk land. Even started preparing for a possible end of the war by starting nuclear research.

Declared war in early 1950. Plan red and blue went perfectly, took over most of MittelAfrika in just a few months thanks to my armored cavalry and mechanised infantry. German and Spanish colonies fell as quickly as I hoped, only Malaysia resisted a bit. By mid-1950, I had accomplished most of my goals, was starting to take troops away from Africa to Central Asia. The Asian front was holding: I took heavy casualties, but they took twice if not thrice as much. But then I started seeing German, French troops in Asia, and the Russians amassing more and more divisions. Then everything went to shit. The Russians attacked in Afghanistan with IIRC more than a hundred divisions in one province mostly held by Indian troops. The front broke. French/German invasions in North Africa, Chinese advances in the Himalayas and Burma, Ukrainians took over Bulgaria, tried to attack Turkey but the Turks are pushing back.

So here's the situation in early 1951. I'm retreating from India. They reached the Gangeatic plains, and it's too hard to hold. My troops, especially mountaineers, are doing their absolute best to keep Baluchistan and hold a corridor to funnel my troops through. The troops that were just too far retreated to the Naga hills and the jungles of northern Burma, but I'm starting to evacuate some by boat, thankfully the Chinese have almost no navy and the German squadrons were destroyed. I'm thinking of evacuating Indochina, but it's still a quiet front I can hold. I'm starting to make plans to just evacuate all my troops from the region, maybe retreat first to Malaysia, then probably take them back home.

I'm getting rekt. Seems like Allah isn't with me. I knew I should have restored the Caliphate.
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>>165093668
what do the colours on the map mean?
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>>165094198
>Discord

LITERALLY
WHO
CARES
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>>165094652
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>>165094652
see my previous post(s) here >>165089976
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>>165094652
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>>165094652
Were a group of people that litterly watch maps change color the fact it breeds autism in the place were we group is inevetable. Also we are pretty stable right now so you wont see much.
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>>165059228
>implying you're smarter than Soviet leadership who tried to turn Central Asia into a breadbasket

Sasuga, Caspian.

>>165061851
I was against this mememod, but if you can adapt this into the V2 version of Dark World, I'll like you.

>>165063757
ZOG OFF, WE DA EMPRAH NOW

>>165067274
Naisu, but this IS Imperial Russia. Doubt the Patriarch will approve...
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>there's no such thing as a perfect Euro--
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>>165094914
>I was against this mememod, but if you can adapt this into the V2 version of Dark World, I'll like you.
I want this. V2 needs a Dark World seeing as its one of the chief playable games alongside CK2 and DH.

Also he posted a link a few posts down, I think.
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Can anyone give me a direct download link to the latest HoI4 Kaiserreich?
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>>165094793
W A G G L E
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>>165095074
>Two Sicilies
>Doesn't even have a single Sicily
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>>165095074
Of course. The euro is shit. The Deutsche Mark was better. And still is. No I´m not bitter about. Not at all.
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>>165093668
Your defeat was inevitable. You have fucking Germany, France, AND Russia all against you. Declaring war was pretty stupid imo.
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>>165094652
did you get the answer to your question?
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>>165096042
Yes, I think so. Thank you.
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>>165096538
nice
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So, what do you enable or disable that disables ironman? Be honest.

Personally, fuck adventurers; they're never any real threat and wars with them take forever because they declare and then don't show up for several years.
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I declared war for Danzig and this happened.
No more memes for me I guess since teutons wants all my land
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roll tide
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can someone explain how to use the shady russian site in the OP to download the games? i tried to do it but i couldn't figure anything out
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good thread
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posted in the wrong thread before

what do you think?
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>>165095074
F
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>>165098895
>That little British strip of Eritrea
Unacceptable
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>>165099064
Thats actually Danish. Theres an event in HPMeme that gives someone (I think a secondary power) Djibouti and Assab (the strip), but I colonized Djibouti before the event fired so when Denmark got the event they just got Assab. I'll take it from them or changeowner it at some point.
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Jesus can someone convert DoD to HPM? PDM is a fucking mess.
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>>165100141
>I'll take it from them or changeowner it at some point.
Out of all the features Victoria II is lacking, province purchasing is probably the most irritating.
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>>165100141
What's the historical basis behind that? Legit question, from what I know Eritrea only stopped being in Ethiopian hands once Italy took it as a concession, and France was the first European power to colonize Djibouti as well. Am I wrong?
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>>165100909
What about actual throughput/output not mattering at all in your industrial score, just "the amount of groups of 10k pops you have working in factories"?
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>>165098895
spee here what game is this?
Does it work on linux?
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>>165100803
DoD?
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>>165101218
Divergences of Darkness.
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>>165100923
Some danish king probbaly was an a bender and conquered it cause why not. I mean pretty much every nation at least tried colinizing in some form. Even Poland owned a small bit of Africa and it didnt even exist.
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>>165098895
Take Libya, Lebanon and the rest of Ethiopia and it'll be perfect.
Get rid of Mauritania and Sokoto tho
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>>165095203
LINK NOW
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>>165100923
It doesn't always fire for Denmark. I've seen Austria-Hungary get it, too, sometimes Sweden. I don't know what the historical basis is.

>>165101184
Victoria 2
Linux a shit so idk
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>>165100923
>>165102016

>In 1869 it was bought by the Rubattino Shipping Company of Italy from the local Sultan.[5] This laid the foundations for the formation of the colony of Italian Eritrea which became the independent country of Eritrea.

The event in question fires for a random country and has the Sultan sell it to them. I usually see Austria Hungary get it.
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Tfw the Yucatan penennsula was almost annexed and turned into a state by the US. Tfw Iceland could have been purchased after WWII. Hindsight makes me sad.
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>>165102016
>linux a shit
'no'
Thanks though I'm gonna get EU IV because I read the OP
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AFPguy, you around?
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Hey, I've found where the programmers for this game live!
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>>165102408
Yes. I am.
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mp game where?
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>>165102957
idk wasn't it with you last time?
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>open hoi4
>see this shit
>close hoi4
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>>165102829
make a byzantine japanese imperial communist flag or whatever the meme was
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>>165102290
During the war of the pacific against Chile the US Ambassador to Peru wanted the USA to annex and then admit them to the union.
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I want to do an early start Crusader Kings game, play until the end, and then import it to EUIV.

The problem is, every early start CK game I play, important places like the HRE never form, leaving Christianity permanently weakened. (Plus, I have no idea what would happen to EU with no HRE).

Hell, in my last game, I started with the Charlemagne start, and he refused to do anything he was supposed to do, died, and France split into a bunch of warring kingdoms until they got eaten by the Muslims. (And of course, the whole time they were an ugly quilt of "West Francia, East Francia, and France in random county-level blobs)

So, is there any way to have an early start and still have the primary important events trigger?
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>buy eu4
>play with all dlcs but cossacks
>have fun
>dl cossacks
>ally AI stops fighting in war
>think its because they dont mili access
>nope get them the path they need
>they just stand there
>remove dlc
>do war again
>AI fights
WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT posted in last thread but still pissed fucking wasted money
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Does anybody have any good ideas in terms of long term goals for playing Venice in ck2?
I've already cucked Croatia out of it's coastal provinces and I am now making more monthly cash than the HRE despite consisting of four provinces. I can always assure my election as Grande Doge due to the money I'm pulling and I'm at the maximum cap for trade outposts.
This has all been done in the first 30 years of a 1066 start and now all the republic mechanics feel too easy.
So is there any hard but possible goals I should try to achieve?
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>>165104597
Known bug with the AI, sometimes it just groups up and stays without moving. Happens to allies, enemies, everyone. Basically, the AI has a list of options for it to take at any point in time, and in certain situations it gets no options, so it does nothing. Because it does nothing, it doesn't give itself new options, and stays stuck.

I've even heard rumors of the bug leaking to recent versions of CK2 because of reused code.
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>>165104674
Become the only merchant republic.
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>>165105039
k
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>>165104565
Just start in 1066 like any decent person.
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>tfw no HPM version of DoD
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Something is wrong. I'm play EU4 for the first time in 6 months and I'm having fun. What is wrong?
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>>165102829
Can you recreate this flag in a non shit quality?
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>>165105861
Holy shit, didn't I do that flag for Companymod years ago? In fact, I got the original right here.
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Where to now lads?
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>>165105952
APF guy, can you do a flag for a french puppeted Ireland?
>Republic of Ireland (whole island)
>French Empire (Bonapartist/Constitutional)

Thanks lad
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>>165106540
Very well, I'll see what I can do.
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>>165106358
>Yemen still exists

Are you really going to let them escape with your rightful sand?
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>>165106358
You still havent united Islam under your rule.
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>>165102516
Yeah it bugs me that the AI will prefer literally any Empire title to the HRE.

No idea why it bugs me, but it does.
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>>165091856
absolutely white
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>>165106540
Ok so I decided to go with the flag of the Society of United Irishmen, who led the Irish Rebellion of 1798.

I decided to use this flag since France intervened in this rebellion in favour of the revolutionaries, and said revolutionaries saw themselves as an Irish continuation of France's own revolution.

This flag is admitedly similar to the flag I use for monarchy Ireland, but the design of the harp is distinct enough to be noticeably different.
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>>165105952
Yeah thats why I asked you, the rest of them looked fine but this was in this shitty quality for some reason.
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>>165106614
Just a randpm question, do you really enjoy making flags? I've only done it a handful of times and it's ok but time consuming. You always have to strike a balance between things that are regenerative and rewarding vs how much you invest.
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>>165107819
For me it feels like labour-therapy (not sure if this term exists in english actually). It can be time consuming but it feels as enjoyable as playing a videogame sometimes even.
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>>165107624
I like that. Do you think there's any way that you could include Napoleonic (bees/the N) or French Revolutionary components (Phrygian cap, etc)?
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>>165108060
That's good. When you enjoy doing something it's only "work" about 1/5th of the time or so while the rest is leisure.
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it's time to stop
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>>165108163
The most used symbol/design I've seen in French puppet republics was the tricolour. So I'm trying a tricolour. Blue stands for France, leading the revolution, with green standing for Ireland. The white is there to mimick the French Flag.

The only issue here is that the harp doesn't go well with the white band. What do you think? I could try something else as well.
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>>165108697
hmmm really made me think
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>>165108798
it does, doesn't it? I think I'll just call it here since converting all this shit to Green would give me carpal tunnel
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>>165108760
Gold does not go on white. Unless you're Jerusalem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_tincture
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>the dark power meme is now real
fuck me lads this DLC is gonna be shit isn't it? The artifact mechanics seem nice but this society shit seems broken/dumb
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>>165108760
Not him, but would changing the color of the harp work? Perhaps change it to green?

Alternatively, you could use an inverse version of the diamond design, which I know you love. Green diamond in the middle and white edges.
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>>165109423
its really fucking annoying seeing paradox add things in dlc like secret societies but they seemingly can't help but fuck it up with meme-tier shit like "dark power"
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>>165109423
Dark magic is a meme but it's gonna be great for modding, now magic mods won't have to use piety as a magic system anymore.
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>>165109391
Yeah, yeah, I know. Though sometimes I cheat if the gold is approaching the tone of a colour and looks good.

>>165109492
That's actually a solid idea.
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>>165109423
Wouldnt it be possible to disable it with the supernatural option ?
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>>165109423
You can either disable them in the settings like you can other supernatural stuff, or avoid any supernatural-ish events by simply not joining the society (you can still interact with it via stuff like witch hunting)
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>>165110667
>As they advance through the ranks, Demon Worshippers get powers like “Dark Divorce”, “Summon Familiar” and “Tainted Touch” (a health curse.)

sounds like they're going to be character options which means have fun every character dying at 30 due to dark power
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Are there any EU4 mods that fix the war AI? Because I don't understand why the enemy just ignores my armies and I just have to spend the whole war running around chasing tiny ass stacks running around my country. And there's also the part where my allies just send there entire army into my country and let say, Denmark occupy all their provinces.
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>>165109768
I like that a lot. Do you think there would be any way to incorporate the honey bees into that flag (or one of your earlier flags) without it looking too strange or breaking your gold-on-white rule?

Pic related for reference is Napoleon III's Imperial standard
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>>165111352
I don't like that design, honestly. The bees ruin the aesthetic of the flag. If it was just one color in the background, it'd look better, but it doesn't look good on a tri-color.
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>>165109768
Could you make both an EU4 and Vicky 2 sized flag for a Yemeni Caliphate led by these guys? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulayhid_dynasty

Doesn't have to be too complicated, probably just Arabic text on a white, black, or green background, sort of like pic related
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>>165111352
Here's an idea, though it's borderline too busy perhaps. It all depends on what you think.
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>>165111584
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it either, I was just trying to show the specific symbol I was talking about and how it was used
>>165111696
I think we're almost there. Do you think that it only having the bees on the top and bottom or the left and right?
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>>165111695
Sure, as soon as I finish up with this Irish bussiness I'll post some designs.

>>165112169
You tell me I think both look pretty bad. It's either all bees or no bees in my opinion.
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>>165112498
Yeah, I agree, of those, the 4 Bees look best. How would you incorporate the bees on an all green background w/ the harp like the 1st design you posted?
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>>165111695
How's this for EU4?

The "lion" is the main symbol of Ismailism, the branch of Shia Islam the Sulayhid belonged to. The colour green represents their relation to the Fatimid Caliphate. The two words at the top and at the bottom are Ambigram depicting Muhammad and Ali written in a single word. When you turn either around, they turn into Muhammad or Ali.

What do you think?

>>165112953
I'd probably just place a single bee at the top of the harp. Want me to try that?
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>>165113067
>What do you think?
Looks great.
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>>165113067
Yeah, sure, let me see what that looks like, I have a feeling that's gonna be the winner.
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Why did no one bother with an AGCEEP-like mod for EU4 that would railroad the game and force all countries to play more historically?
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>>165113213
Vicky flag coming next post.

>>165113418
Here you go.
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>>165114171
Ayy, that's the one. Thanks for putting so much work into my very specific memecountry
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>>165113213
I know this design isn't really appropiate for a flag but it looked really cool so I decided to use it.

It's mirror writing in Islamic calligraphy, depicts the Shi'i phrase 'Ali is the vicegerent of God' in obverse and reverse.

I decided to do away with the green and replaced it with white because I figure that by the time Vicky rolled around, the Sulayhid wouldn't put as much emphasis in their Fatimid connection as before.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Mirror_writing2.jpg/1024px-Mirror_writing2.jpg
Here's the original scripture for reference.

>>165114413
No worries, I enjoy doing it.
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>>165113914
Just play a hoi1-hoi3 game if you want semi-realistic railroading lad
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>>165114457
That's pretty cool, but I feel like the small details get jumbled together due to the small format of Vicky 2 flags.
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>>165114584
Well, if you use the Big Flag Frames I got linked in my pastebin, most details should be retained. Just in case though, I'll try to come up with a simpler design.
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>>165114584
Perhaps this may look better ingame? Since none of us knows how to read arabic let's just pretend it still means what it meant without all those punctuation marks or whatever they were.
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In HPM, can you annex Belgium by sphereing them as the Netherlands?
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>>165114975
No, but you can annex them by refusing the Treaty of London when the event pops up, not long after the game starts.
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>>165114947
>Since none of us knows how to read arabic let's just pretend it still means what it meant without all those punctuation marks or whatever they were
Uh, I can, and it actually completely changes the meaning of the flag. It now says Suck my dick, t. Hitlermod
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>>165115247
Go to sleep, kid.
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>>165114947
>>165115247
In all seriousness though, could you try using the Arabic calligraphy of the Sulayhid (بنو صليح) on a white background?
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>>165115478
Like this?
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whatup my dudes, rate my giant cancer of an empire
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>>165115851
>custom empire

for what purpose
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>>165116728
Bright green is more beautiful than ugly ass dull red
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>>165115851
Vomit green.

Fitting for an empire of drunken cudgel wielding Irish savages.
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>>165116737
I've once had an AI formed Brittania fully convert the islands to Messalian.

That game was fucking weird.
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>>165117304
I had a game once where the Ottomans took Vienna and just kept going. I was playing England and I just watched as Austria got gobbled, then Bavaria...then it went all the way to Saxony. And they even took a goo bit of PLC land

No one fucking tried to make war against them. It was weird. Wish I still had that save
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>>165115780
Yeah that looks good. Not especially fancy, but it does the job. Thanks
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Alright, where do the otomemes go from here?
Unifying Islam see
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To the lad who convinced me to purchase WitW, thanks. It's actually fun.
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>>165118031
unifying islam seems hard rather
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I feel so fucking retarded. For some reason I can't get my head around hoi4. Hoi3 was never my thing, darkest hour is my favourite GSG, but for some reason I am terrible at Hoi4
any fucking advice?
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>playing eu4
>join war with ally
>all AI comes after me?
>they get me to low but lose war because they dont go after war goal or any other country an d get carpet sieged
will this happen during every war?
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>>165118297
Like... what's your issue? It's pretty fucking easy to do reasonably well.
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1-3 - Continue one of my HPM campaigns
4-6 - Try DoD probably as Japan or Scandinavia
7-9 - NWO and and form a super state
0 - kill myself live on periscope
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>>165118594
Play NWO regardless
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>>165118297
Play it like a Civ game. I'm not joking when I say you are probably overthinking it.
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>>165119614
alright yeah my heart wasn't in the other two options anyway

I'm like 7 years away from forming the Imperial Federation with Britain, couldn't hold on to India but kept a decent amount of Africa
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Playing as Brabant is fucking fun.

>Using 1356 mod as I like having more time to play with.
>Start has me down at -50 warscore
>Slowly retake my realm, push out Flanders and then steal half his shit.
>Puts me behind in tech but chug along anyways.
>Ally minor low country/german minors who all sport 7-10k stacks
>BTFO Burgundy + England (Steal calais, throw migrants into the channel)
>Ally France
>Steal more land, get coalitioned.
>Fight my first proper coalition war and win (Thanks to the French hoi hoi)
>Steal more land from the dutch and walloons, ending up with fuck all manpower.
>France suddenly calls me into an apocalypse war
>England+Castille+Burgundy and their cunt minors
>Still come out on top as AI cannot siege for shit and France is actually clever for once.


Feel's good man, but I'm not forming the Netherlands, even if it's beneficial to do so. I like Brabants colours too much.
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>>165120051
Do you even do anything besides waiting for techs and playing with spheres when going for superstates? Spamming puppets/install [government system here] to sphere them faster?
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Not sure if I'm doing this right, am I going too slow?
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>>165120228
yea, just go war after war and you can unify by the 60s
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>Gaining one-legged doesn't have a 50% chance of removing clubfooted
What the shit
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>>165120186
Depends on the super state. I've had severely poor relations with the US as Britain because I'm trying to include Canada in the Imperial Federation (I think that's what it's called in the game files but in game it's called the Commonwealth of Nations). Fighting over European or New World territory will almost guarantee the US or Soviet Union (it fell) getting involved but there's a lot of room for fighting over Africa, the Middle East, and parts of Asia.

Also if you are going for a super state besides the EU I'd recommend the 1946 start date but if you are going for the EU the 1992 one is probably better because it's less waiting.

Although I do find myself way ahead where I would be in 92 technology wise by starting in 46 as Britain
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>>165120467
That's because Clubfooted is a congenital trait.
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>>165120467
Kek'd
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>>165120269
>just go war after war and you can unify by the 60s
How? Should I ignore the truces? What about the coalitions? is that even a thing in this place?
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Russia is always a fucking mess.

(They're sunni kazan shits)
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>>165120635
Also isn't that a both legs thing?
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>>165120467
not to mention gout
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What idea should I pick?
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>>165120635
It's congenital, but it represents a condition that occurs in utero. You shouldn't be able to pass it on.
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How do I navy in HoI4?
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>>165122516
not hm but will someone spoonfeedme hoi4 in general. DH, HOI3, all fine, but this is insanity
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>>165118031
1. crush hungarins
2. crush austrians
3. siege vienna
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Damn this mod is really not polished very well. I had to stop myself from going any further and fixing things that didn't relate to the flag frames.

Anyway by chance is that anon who asked for an NWO compatible BigSquareFrames here? It works at least for 1.07, which is all I have.

now suck my dick
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>>165121306
Maritime, duh!
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>>165121306
>picked Quality first
>>>/reddit/
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>>165122516
>lots of destroyers, cruisers and subs
>mass your destroyers and cruisers on snd sorties
>mass your subs on convoy interdiction
>absolutely murder everything
Big ships are a waste of naval IC because they take so long to build and since you're massing screens, they won't be able to kill them all whereas you can destroy their screens in the first engagement, then wipe their capital ships in the next engagement. The convoy destruction helps to slow their industry and any attempts at naval invasion.

>>165122579
>make front
>draw arrow
>click play
>manually encircle as you see fit
You should be able to figure this out. Also just go play the fucking tutorial. It actually works and holds your hand through an entire Italy campaign.
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>>165122579
I'm alright at everything except navy.

What do you want to know?

My general tips:
1. All divisions should have 20 combat width

2. Design a strong defensive infantry division with artillery support and engineers for holding the line and mass-produce it. You can throw in some artillery batteries for some offensive punch if you've got the luxury, but this detracts from defensiveness.

3. Design a strong offensive mechanised division with self-propelled artillery.

4. Design a strong medium tank division with a few mechanised infantry thrown in to give it some HP.

Then, use the infantry division to hold a static frontline. Use the tank divisions to break through the enemy line and draw a circle behind them. Then use the mechanised infantry to buff out that line so that the enemy can't just pinch it shut and isolate your tanks. This encircles the enemy. Then, close the circle after a few days with your infantry.

Rinse and repeat.
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>>165122889
What about small countries that have fuck all in tanks
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>can't get an absolute monarchy in power in hoi4


boring
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>>165122986
You can either try and encircle with infantry + artillery (motorised infantry with self-propelled tank artillery if you can afford it, otherwise all leg), or just add artillery to all your infantry divisions and go WW1 on their anus.

The AI can't design good divisions to save their lives so even a shitty leg infantry division marching over Europe like it's the fucking Napoleonic wars will buttdevestate the AI.
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Good morning my mates. Tis good to have a thread free of degenerate casual s*x havers and dr*g users.
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>>165122843
Is there a golden ratio of DD CL CA or if not what should I look at to determine how to adjust my ratio?
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>>165123283
Go back to /pol/ with your shitty meme.
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>>165106358

>not taking Iraq, Persia, Northwest Africa, and Arabia

desu senpai you can do better
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>>165123328
I usually go for 10:5:2, but more CL is probably better since they nerfed DD with Sunflower because on release you could just spam DD and be unfuckingstoppable. Also Naval Air destroys absolutely everything, if you can afford the IC.
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>Castile and Aragon are rivals
>Aragon blobs into Castilian lands until it touches Portugal
>both countries hate each other's guts
>HERP! IBERIAN WEDDING! DERP!
>Aragon falls into PU to a smaller and less relevant RIVAL because the game is railroaded
I swear, this shit is retarded.
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/gsg/ i'll be pulling an all-nighter later, what country should i play in HPM? will post some updates throughout the night as i go
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>>165122986
>>165123129
I should explain these stats to tell you how to make good divisions.

Speed is self explanatory, but if you're trying to make an encirclement division keep an eye on it. No sense adding FAST TANKS and then hobbling it with towed artillery, so if you feel like you need more soft attack with your tank divisions you need to research _and produce_ SP artillery as well as the tank. Making the "perfect" division is a luxury for Germany, Britain, France, etc. etc. and not for shitty countries like Australia or China.

HP is how much damage it can take before it pulls back or gets destroyed. If you have nothing but tanks this will be super low, which is why you need to add (mech or moto) infantry to fill out the HP without lowering the speed.

Soft attack and Hard attack are the big ones. Higher numbers = better.
Defence = how many SA and HA can be dodged while being attacked. The higher this is the longer your troops can fight on the defence.
Breakthrough = defence while attacking.

COMBAT WIDTH = THE AMOUNT OF SPACE IT TAKES UP ON THE FRONT LINE. MOST BATTLES HAVE A CW OF 40-80. It is always a multiple of 20, so your divisions should be 20 wide. 40 if you want to make monster divisions for some dumb reason. The smaller your divisions the more support regiments you can have in the fight (so if you spam 2 width divisions with support artillery you can bring an ungodly amount of soft attack). Support regiments don't take up combat width. Support artillery is literally free soft attack. Always take it on combat divisions.

So to make a good infantry defensive division just stack soft attack, defence, and HP.
To make a good tank breakthrough division you want as many tanks as possible (because they have more SA per combat width) with just enough HP from moto/mech infantry to keep them from breaking. Don't worry about defence because your breakthrough divisions won't be defending (that's what the mech infantry divisions that follow them are for).
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>>165123754
Greece and restore Byzantium from Balkans to Egypt and Mesopotamia
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>>165122718
Supposedly Harris was going to make a /gsg/ edit of NWO 1.07 to make it better for our MP sessions but it's a pretty big job4u
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>>165123425
Cheers lad.
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>>165122718
Not that anon but I'll take it
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>>165123843

didn't they remove the Byz decision? or are you just asking to blob as Greece? if more people support this i'll do it

otherwise everyone keep giving suggestions
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>>165123802
You can also go deeper and make medium tank divisions for the initial breakthrough and then light tanks for speeding through the hole in the line and fucking around in the rear area.

This is extremely indulgent though.
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>>165123802
Not him but isnt one of the biggest problems with the game the player can make near perfect divisions while the AI makes god awful one. The lack of an AI doesnt help either but still.
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>>165124104
Yes, 100%. The AI divisions are garbage and once you get the perfect divisions rolling out you will stomp the enemy even at a huge numerical disadvantage.
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>>165123886
Yeah there's so many little things that need tweaking it's kind of overwhelming to undertake

>>165123907
puu DOT sh/thgZu/f37d3fb772 DOT zip
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>>165124224
Thanks anon
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>>165124060
Yeah hpm doesn't like fun. Just do it as greece and make sure you stay a monarcy
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>>165124224
I'd so some myself but I'm not sure if others would agree with my design choices.
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>>165123802
Guy who helped with navy earlier here: For the record, while what you're stating isn't wrong, reddit already figured out the best division composition.
>Infantry
8 inf, 2 art, with supp: arty, engi, field hospital, maintenance, logistics. If you can afford it (cough, America, cough), HARM or SHARM are fucking excellent additions at the cost of one inf.

>Armor
3 arm (any type), 2 SPART (I prefer moto rockets, but that's personal pref), 5 mot/mech. Support: Arty, Maintenance, Recon, Logistics, Whatever (I like signal here).

>Mot/Mech
8 Mot/Mech, 2 SPART, Support: Arty, Maintenance, Recon, Field Hospital, Logistics.

>>165124085
No real reason to make ARM over LARM at the moment. LARM doesn't provide that much less SATT and it's capable of piercing ARM, assuming it's up to date.

>>165124104
>>165124192
They fixed that actually. It takes longer than the human player for them to make good divisions, but they still try to make good comps.
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>>165124413
no problem.

>>165124494
That's an issue too. But mainly things like fixing positions of text or icons or adding localisation would be good. I noticed most of the terrain isn't even localised. Gameplay wise I don't know too much about
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>>165124730
Nukes and how they work have been a very common complaint, and the pop growth system should be tweaked somehow. It's just odd how one of the best strategies revolves around staying as uneducated as possible simply because the 0.1% of education that bumps you into the next category can kill your pop growth.
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>>165124621
>giving people cheatcodes
Anyway, yeah, you very quickly arrive at those divisions anyway after a bit of playing around.
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>>165124890
I mean, you told him what to make, in a round about way. Might as well just give it to him at that point.
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>>165109423
not gonna buy this dlc desu
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>>165124952
Fair enough.
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>>165125029
Also, the vast majority of non-majors can't afford those divisions anyways, so you need to learn how to break it down for smaller industrial scale. The "cheat codes" are more of a building block. A "this is what you aspire to, but what you probably can't afford."
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>>165124879
Hopefully someone is motivated enough to figure out the best way and do it. /gsg/ will never agree on any one way anyhow
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What's the least cancerous method for playing India in HPM?

>changeowner all provinces then release from UK
>Mughal conquest
>Sikh conquest

I'm also wondering if it would be possible to just release all the substates as UK for easy conquest.
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>>165125881
sikh is must fun
mughal is alright
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>>165125881
>cancerous
leave you underage
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>>165126441
How fast do they westernize?
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>>165125881
Least cancerous way is playing as the UK, you'll have almost all of India absorbed through events by 1860, and then releasing India after letting a rebellion change your government.

It's the least "cancerous" and most non gamey way to do it.
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>>165122718
>>165124224
Old anon here, thanks. Dougy Mac's ready to slay some commies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK3H4JJ-8Bg
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has anyone actually ever played China as the KMT before, and what party do they count as? fascist or socialist?
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>>165128156
I think they're a reactionary party or maybe even a conservative party.
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>>165128096
What is this?
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HPM guy, just in case you didn't see this from last thread:

>>165008548
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>>165128378
NWO mod with a flag flagfriend made for me for a MacArthur military junta-ran USA.
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>>165127543
how is it more cancer to use sikh. that shit is dope
>>165128156
KMT is super fun take the reighs of sun yat sens wife
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>>165128395

Shit stupid phone, was supposed to say this:

"HPM guy-

There's a bug in the decision for the CSA to "Move Capital to Richmond"

It moves it to Blackstone - also refers to the CSA as the FSA.

Also, wtf is Blackstone? That town wasn't even founded until after the civil war. Should that be Blacksburg or something else that makes more sense?"

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone,_Virginia
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HPM guy is knights of the golden circle in your mod
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>>165128686
it is
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>>165128496
Does that happen in the mod by default or did you add it yourself?
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might play US and go fascist when the time comes (HPM). thoughts/suggestions?
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Can someone tell me what the latest version of CK2+ is? Is the archive up to date?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?forums/ck2-plus-mod.841
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>>165128754
Added it myself. Though I did fix some other stuff, like populist dictatorship will no longer have elections.
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Hey guys russia from the game on saturday here, sorry I got stuck in the opposite end of the city and had to spend most of the evening walking home. (it's mad how long it takes you to get through unfamiliar areas)
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>>165129213
4.05.4b
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>>165129841

your two replacements got yourself into the brink of a massive worldwide war of containment against Germany. next time we play it's probably going to start inside of a few months.

t. taisho
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>>165129927
Close enough to my version. Thanks, my duder
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>>165129931
Did you guys play yesterday or we doing this Friday as SIM said?

t. CIA
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>>165130279

friday, nothing happened yesterday
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Got a CK2 problem.

Playing as a female ruler, I married a claimant to the kingdom next door. I just finished off a war to put my husband on the throne, and since we have a matrilineal marriage, my son is the heir of both of our kingdoms.

The problem is that he is now "The Usurper" and all of his vassals hate his guts. Actually, that's not really the problem, since I can kill their asses.

The problem, is that each one is forming a faction, and then saying "Let me become king or I'm going to rebel." and my husband is saying "Yeah, sure, that's fine, you're the king now."

Now, that's probably because he has 0 army, since the war to put him on the throne just ended a month ago, but is there any way to stop my AI husband from giving away his crown to the first duke who asks for it?
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>>165129335
Would you please share it?

>populist dictatorship will no longer have elections.
Isn't that called a "republic" in NWO?
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>>165129091
enjoy your no immigrants
>implying that's a bad thing
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>>165131109
>immigrants
>bad thing
>as the US
Pick two

t. 100% yankee
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>>165131109
nonwhites become "civilized" by the time Fascism rears its beautiful head anyway
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>>165131109
>>165131159
doesn't that not matter since most immigrants are mid/late 19th century and fascism is post-1900?
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>>165131031
It's really just adding this flag in as the populist flag, and renaming one of the parties to Emergency Military Council. I might do some flavor events later.
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>jewish tank
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>>165131929
>infantry
Why? Just run tank/fighter/artillery
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>>165131491
Oh, well thanks anyway for the flag. It sure beats the gay snake.

>>165131929
>White Anglo Tank
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>>165132346
It isn't just any old infantry, but some fucking irregulars
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>>165130391
Bump this question
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>>165123419
I had to get revenge on all my enemies in the west first for trying to bring me down back in 1836

And now they've all been purged, well except Aragon but they come later
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What do? The Euro traitors have agreed to compromise with the commies, do we follow their path or stand against the reds?
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>>165134753
Better dead than red!
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How do I take this from HRE?
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>>165134905
kys. dont play a fucking shitty liquor version of eu4 when it does not have half the relevant game mechanics to the era
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>>165135118
>kys
Is that code so your mommy doesn't know you're telling people to kill themselves online?
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Wow, party loyalty actually DOES SOMETHING in NWO unlike in HPM. At least the NWOfag's doing something right, though then again he did go full retard on provinces in the newer versions. Also it reduces consciousness and militancy, which is pretty good.
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HOW DO I GET MORE LIBERALS IN UPPER HOUSE LATE GAME FOKIN REDS ANTI NEO OTTOMANS!
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>>165133393
No, there is not; for some reason, the AI doesn't take into account his allies when considering faction requests.
Either marry an alpha male who can show these kids who's boss, or marry an omega who will listen to you as long as you let him touch your tits
Don't settle for people in the middle who just cower but don't listen to you
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>>165135245
>2
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>>165134905
>beating the HRE in ultimate
good luck mate, just let the occupy Denmark and then keep stackwiping them on the first island that can be blocked by a navy
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vic2 ultimate is worse than eu4 I'm afraid
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Goddamnit Israel.

Okay, what were MacArthur's thoughts on the jews? Was he a good goy-err guy or not?

>>165135321
USSR starts with a huge boost over the US in terms of military, though US has more prestige and industry. I guess it makes sense, the Soviets did have more men in the field at that time but it doesn't take into account the USN also

>no aircraft carriers available in 1940s

wew
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>>165135245
What's Big tent?
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Question for yall:
Where online can you discuss History one minute, then Gaming the next?
Then maybe learn some Philosophy then talk about Movies and Books? Then after that, relax by watching some funny .GIFs, reading some AARs, or viewing some borders that're only mildly irritating? Do you know of any such board?

Answer:
It sure as hell isn't Reddit, if that's what you're thinking. It's an amazing community I've been using called /gsg/. I honestly feel my IQ has increased at least 20 points since I bought my 4chan pass. It's also why I've been using reddit a lot less. If you want to get away from mindless drivel and stupid whoring for upvotes, come join me on >>165091845
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>>165130391
It doesn't really matter whether he gives up or not, because, having ruled the kingdom (even if only for a couple weeks), his claim is now strong. Your kid will have the same strong claim and will be able to press it directly once you die and he takes over.
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>>165136313
fuck off jhon
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>>165136247
Conservatives, I imagine, but ones that include different factions within them like how GOP in real life includes religious right, nationalists, libertardians, etc.
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>>165136357
The tooltip says it is only passed to second and third sons?
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>>165136991
There's nothing wrong with libertarianism, don't say it in such a negative manner like that.
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>Black Anglo children are still educated in their native language

AYOO
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>>165137145
Free Trade doesn't work. I'm all for a free national market without government intervention in it, but free trade will inevitably lead to cheap workers coming in and shitting up your country's national economy. It's not even about muh race, it's a simple fact of economics.
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dang
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>tfw the DoD modder didnt add any events/decisions for an Ottoman Empire that actually managed to keep itself together

Really disappointment desu
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>>165137173
you better not free any of your occupied zones
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>>165137019
No, second and third sons (or the two closest heirs, more accurately) are just pretenders who get major opinion penalties upon a primary successor's ascent to the throne, to encourage them to rebel. Claims get passed to all children.
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>>165137558
Of course not. South Korea's my first colony and Philippines are still a puppet. I kept Japan as a puppet but they prestige spammed to 8th GP. Only area I'll let go off is Southern Germany, mostly because it's landlocked, but I've avoided to take denazification so West Germany, once its formed, will be at least 30% nationalist and 10% populist. I've kept Trieste as a naval base close to Yugoslavia too, can't let the commies get too uppity.

As for my border plans, I'm thinking of finding a way to annex Canada without doing the whole Greater North American Union globalist meme.
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>>165137714
your bait is shit
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>>165137472
look at all that infidel territory you're going to get to holywar.
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>>165137741
You could try the liberation annexation exploit but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work in NWO. How many states are Canada anyway? You should be able to break infamy limit as the US.
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>>165137256
The entire point is that if cheap workers are willing to work for shit-all, then that's actually how much the work is worth.
The real problem facing workers is that they're fast growing obselete due to mechanization and all that.
State Capitalism is much more legit though
t. Chink
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>>165137714
Needs to add HOI4 is a third frog
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>>165137916
if I don't get fucked by the english first who have an army twice the size of mine and hate me, or by an internal revolt, my queen is insane, a known murderer and a known adulteress with a great pox, the kingdom is barely held together, a large chunk of my vassals also hate me for destroying the title of Scotland, I did it because I only had a weak claim on it
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>>165137987
Is that you, chinanon? I need help with chinkspeak for the AAR if so.
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>>165137916
>>165138083
wait, they are also all christian, despite being ibramihid, what the fuck
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>>165137979
Not that many, it's the same states from vanilla/HPM as I'm using 1.07. They're all my primary culture though (White Anglo) so I'll see if the whole anchluss mechanic still works if I just sphere them. UK are 3rd GP but unsphered them for some reason.
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>>165138119
Yes, it's me. When are you starting your AAR, by the way? If it's next week, I could provide more in-depth help this weekend, since I have a particle physics and complex analysis finals coming up on Thursday and I feel bad without staring at the textbook until then.
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>>165138232
>pdm
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>>165095074
looks like 1444 start for EU IV
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>>165138320
>PDM

What did you mean by this?

Also lads what reforms do I take to keep America a conservative nation? Socially, I mean, I MIGHT make the living standards not third world tier.
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>>165138242
I've already started playing it, just not posting it. I'm testing out how playing an entire AAR in advance and then writing about it later works out, since I've got so much work to do these next few months that I can't really reliably play it concurrent with posting it, like I'd like to. The actual release will probably still be in May/June, like I intimated before, but I might be able to finish it before then.

For right now I mostly just need help with army names. Maybe some names for operations and battle plans, but most of those I can probably ask for when I sit down to write the AAR. Can't do that for armies, though.
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>>165138514
What's your AAR about anon? EU4? Vicky II? CK2?
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>>165138492
>what reforms do I take to keep America a conservative nation
Honestly would that even make sense? Wouldn't, politically speaking, it be difficult to champion freedom and progressiveness and personal / human rights against the specter of communism, if you were actively holding back on those things?
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>>165138492
You could start by rolling back those two political reforms
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>>165137823
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>>165138614
Sure, actual USA promoted conservative values up until the late Bush II Administration. Also communism is about progressivism, at least on paper. Soviet communism was pretty conservative in practice post-Lenin.

Also it looks like we're going Fallout-tier as the PRC and Soviets went to war over Port Arthur.
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>>165138514
>Army names
I haven't played much of HoI3 and I missed what your AAR was going to be about in terms of goals.
You're Guomindang / Kuomintang I suppose, but are you looking to put an Emperor up or are you following Chiang's dream to create a nationalistic semi-democracy and all that?
What kind of army names do you want? Just translated versions of an English thing you give me and all that or what? I'm not sure we had any cool sounding names back then anymore if we're just going for the normal Chiang's China Dream route. If you're reinstating an Emperor and retconning his personality, then we have more names possible because Imperial China had a lot more 'epic' names for their armies instead of "112nd Infantry" or "2nd Artillery". As far as operations and battle plans, sure I can do that; those are easy.
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>>165139009
wew
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>>165138557
HoI3 National China, with the Downfall vanilla-plus mod. Goal is to beat the Japanese on the mainland, kill Mao, and try to build myself up quickly enough to invade Japan before the Americans get there.

>>165138884
I don't know what events the mod has so I honestly don't know, but barring any very weird circumstances the plan is to stick with Chiang and a pseudo-dictatorship.

I'll post what I've got and some specific questions I have in a second, as soon as the game loads, and you can see more of what I'm looking for. I don't really care if they sound cool or not, I just want to make sure it's accurate. muh autism
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Isn't it a bit too early for that, Austria?
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>>165139175
>HOI3
this will be interes-
>Nationalist China
make china great again nukka
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this is such a grim war, the whole place is ravaged by the plague and in the middle of it all large armies are duking it out while dying from the various diseases
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The kikes fucked up. Not sure why they didn't call me in for this one though.
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>>165138884
So here are my questions (and forgive me if I butcher the language, but I'm not going to put the accents in):

1. I want to name my Theater HQ something which conveys that it's based in Nanjing and primarily exists to convey orders and information from the capital to the army proper, like a sort of pseudo-political unit. I really don't have an idea for this one so suggestions welcome.

2. The army proper is at the Army Group level, and I'm calling it the Guomin Geming Jun, which I got from wiki. I think this one is accurate for what it was referred to as in the period.

3. For army goups I'm using "Jituanjun," which I think just means something like "group army." Is that roughly right?

4. Using "Jun" for armies, and I also think that's right.

5. Infantry divisions I'm calling "Bubing Shi," which should be a literal translation, with cavalry referred to as "Qibing Shi." I'm less solid on that last one and would like confirmation there. I'm also referring to garrisons as "Anquan Shi," which somebody said meant something like "protection unit" or some such, but I'm not sure if there's a better name or not.

6. No clue what to name the navy. Also no clue what to name my meme interceptor and bomber wings, so help for all three would be welcome.

7. Finally, I need some good names for two operations. The first is a rush across the Yangding to seize Beijing and Tianjin before digging in to withhold the Japanese onslaught and the second is a attempt to push deep into outer Mongolia to cut the Japanese troops operating in Mao's territory off from supply. That latter one probably shouldn't have a very happy operational name, since Chiang is only going to be doing it out of necessity to win the war.
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>>165139175
>it's accurate
Lad I don't know the actual, accurate names for each and every army; I can give you probable names for them if you like, in either Imperial fashion (ex. Army of the Winter Duchess, Fleet of the Ten Thousand Thunders, Western Shura's Artillery, Crimson Flag Mechanized Army, etc.) or modern fashion (1. Xinjiangjun, 2. Beipingjun, 112. Paodui, 203. Zenchadui, ZGS Huang Gai), but that's it. I can't help you with the historical names of historical armies in that era (if they even existed) because I've honestly never cared enough to know.
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>>165139501
imagine being a soldier there

>"my brethren in arms are dying left and right, hundreds, if not thousands of us have already died, and we havent even seen battle yet"

but they would just blame it on where they are in those times so;

>"This only strengthens my hate for the sassanach, they deserve what I shall give to them for cursing this land we walk on, they cause death and disease by merely walking upon this plain, I will end every one of them I see for doing this to us. Erin Go Bragh!"
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>>165139770
>caring about army names in hoi3

Why? You'll end up with a shitton of recurring names for divisions and regiments anyway. Unless you autistically rename every one of them.
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>>165140130
I already have renamed all of them, with proper roman numerals and all.
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It's time lads.

I really need to alter Russiabro's flavor events so I can make all these new territories 70% White Anglo
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What's up with Suddan having 1billion communists?
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>>165140607
what game? :^)
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are Traps gay?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12074112
http://www.strawpoll.me/12074112
http://www.strawpoll.me/12074112
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>>165140920
Only if you suck the traps dick desu
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what the fuck is this shit
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So I'm not allowed in NATO I guess?
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>>165141268
WE
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>>165139770
Okay;

1. "Nanjing Zongbu" would mean "Nanjing General Ministry" aka "Nanjing Headquarters". If you're talking about a command headquarters, "Nanjing Zhijunsuo" sounds roughly about right. It translates to Nanjing Office of Instructing Troops", or basically a Nanjing Command Post.

2. Guomin Geming Jun works, it literally means "Revolutionary National People's Army". Kind of communist or fascist sounding if you ask me, honestly.

3. "Army Group", as a level, would just be Juntuan, "Group-of-Armies". Jietuan Jundui which means Group Army. That being said, a Group Army is not an Army Group.

4. Yes, you can use Jun for armies, since it literally translates to such.

5.1 Yes, a Qibing Shi would refer to a Division of Cavalry (or rather, specifically to a group of cavalry led by a cavalry division commander).

5.2 Garrisoned armies are "Zhujun", lit. Stationed or Residential Army. You can also just call them, say, "Beiping Jundui" or "Shanghai Jundui". I'm guessing you mean a literal division of garrison troops, in which case I can only suggest "[city] Zhubingshi", lit. Garrisoned Soldier Division of [city].

6.1 A "Navy" is a Haijun. "Jiandui" can also work and always refers to a specific group of military-only ships.

6.2 I'm not sure about interceptors (lanzai feiji?), but a squadron of fighters is "Zhandouji Zhongdui". A wing is "Zhandoujiyi" (not sure about this one).

6.3 Bombers are "Hongzhaji", while a wing of bombers is referred to as "Hongzhaji Yi" to the best of my knowledge. A squadron of them is "Hongzhaji Zhongdui". I'm not sure if you want special names or something though.

7.1 Operation Yanqiu, "Autumn of Yan". The nation of Yan was around where you're digging in.

7.2 Do you want it to be named after a person? I'm not sure where you're goin from, but Bai Qi pretty famously slammed in a line through the Xiongnu during the Warring States era. If not, Operation Hexu Wanli, "Ten Thousand Li in Search of Peace".
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>>165141268
a retarded dlc you left on you stupid nigger, go back a save or two until they're gone and restart, turning off sunset invasion
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>>165141380
Thanks senpai, two things though:

So far as the navy went, since I only have one and it's complete trash, I wanted to name it something more fancy-sounding, sort of like the Guomin Geming Jun, although I don't want to just recycle that and stick "navy" in instead of "army." It doesn't have to be historic, I just want something somewhat nice here.

And for interceptors, would "Zhandoujiyi Zhongdui" properly be something like "fighter wing," then?

I like the idea of using names for operation titles, so "Case Bai Qi" is a go.
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>>165141450
eh, I have to go to many saves back, I think I am done with this game, it was my very first one anyway

time to play something different, whats a fun campaign thats not too difficult?
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>>165129931
What did they do, plz tell me a bit more.

at least I managed to get all the most important things done, the hardest bit of the russia game was over. I -really- wanted to just sit and do nothing for 10 years.
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what the fuck
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>>165139770
>a attempt

Shit grammar, will not be reading AAR.
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>>165142041
based finland
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>>165142128
Give me a break senpai, it was split off by a spoiler and it's almost 6 AM here.
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>>165142041
mate as long as you're willing to do a fuckton of census research and balance a whole new economy with new RGOs and factories and write at least a thousand or some more events we could totally make our own NWO
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>>165142496
Tbh I like NWO, it just needs some bugfixes from 1.07 is all. I think it's playable and fits modern era really well.
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>>165142574
Yeah but if we only put in a few hundred hours of work into our own mod we could have our own slightly better version of NWO
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>>165142673
I agree but NWO could be used as the basis for it.
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>>165141823
No, Zhandoujiyi translates literally to Fighting (air)machine wings. I'm not sure what a aerial combat wing actually is beyond being a squadron; is it not one? A squadron is Zhandouji Zhongdui.

>so far as the navy went...
Oh, uh well, I'm not sure about fancy names unless you just want a name in the Imperial sense. China had a strong navy but never cared enough historically about it so I don't think there's that many good historical things to draw on. Haiwang Jiandui might work for something random, it means "Sea King's Fleet" (Sea King being a mythological figure) and is also synonymous with "Neptune's Armada".
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>the new CK2 dev dairy

REEEEEEEEEE STOP BLOAT UNHISTORICAL SHIT NO ONE ASKED FOR AND FIX THE FUCKING CRUSADES AND JIHADS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>165142879
>Sea King's Fleet
Considering the absolute trash state of my navy, that's way too dank to pass up. I'll need to get a real navy name if/when I get a proper navy, but until then this irony is top-tier.

Thanks anon. I'll try to refrain from bothering you about stuff like this too much, and future questions shouldn't be so extensive.
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>>165142868
"A good house must be built on a strong foundation. If the soil is weak, then so too will the house be" Chinese philosopher Jian-Xien Hubei.
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>>165142956
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Johan is seriously /ourguy/

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-10th-of-january-2017.993709/
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>>165143056
quality post
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>>165143014
>considering the absolute trash state of my navy
Well, the Sea King didn't actually have any boats of note in the legends, since he kind of lived underwater, being a major ocean deity and all that. Something something 10 000 000 chinamen are now living with the fishes.
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>>165143137
>Spain - 30% less shock_damage_received.
wew
lad
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>>165143275
no more frogs blobing into spain for 100 years lad i'm down for it. Scared what france and russia will get in the final era(revolutions?). probs something like +10% discipline and +100% attrition respectively
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>>165142496
We unironically can.
The problem is that we're lazy fucktards, just like the vast majority of all generals.
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>>165098760
Back to plebbit with you
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>>165143137
>Spain - 30% shock damage in an era when ALL damage is shock damage
*Tercio Intensifies*

>>165143027
>Jian Xien Hubei
Who is this supposed to be? Is he a real person, because if he is then I've never heard of him before. Also, Hubei is a province.
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It's tempting, but that infamy...
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>>165142041
GATE
OF
BABYLON
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>>165143647
I'm unemployed, I've got time to kill. If others can help then I'd be up to at least give it a go.

>>165143673
>Who is this supposed to be? Is he a real person, because if he is then I've never heard of him before. Also, Hubei is a province.
I made up some shitty quote on the spot, just saying it would be better to make it from scratch rather than to base it on NWO.
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>>165143769
What the fuck did you do to get 35 infamy this early?
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>>165143976
Annexed Cuba, annexed Philippines, refused to let go of South Korea.
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>>165144012
Post pops please.
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>>165144147
here

This is still pre-genocide, still not sure if I want to take that infamy hit. Then again, I get a 'Western Allies' event should UK or France ever unally me and USSR doesn't dare to contain me when I have 2 GPs on my side, even if they're shit-tier. Pretty good Cold War simulator desu.
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>>165144307
>Black Anglo
Why not Afro-American?
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>>165144345
just dl'd the mod looks like a total meme mod.
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are Romanians white?
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>>165144472
It is
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Ah... the American refugee crisis of 1959.

>>165144472
>>165144536
It's pretty bad but it is the closest thing we'll ever get to a proper Cold War game. It's.. playable, to say the least.
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To take the Shukensen-Riekisen Doctrine decision it says I need "Manifest Destiny" which I thought was a US decision.
How do I activate "Manifest Destiny" as Japan?
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>>165144743
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>>165144748
Pretty sure it's an invention you get with one of the techs under Political Thought.
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>>165144859
I just wanna say, this province of Canada is majority Spanish and Mestizo now.
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>These new western/German portraits

Bretty gud 8/8 ngl
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>>165144307
what is the difference between nationalist, traditionalist and populist parties in NWO?
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>>165145090
traditionalist is islamic iirc
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>>165145074
Looks the same as always
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>>165144859
Post your actual emmigration
>you now realize there will soon be millions of Filipinos in Mexico
If you give a Filipino a taco, a sombrero and do not teach him English, will he assimilate?
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>>165145141
but there is no islamic religious pops here >>165144307
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>>165145005
>majority
>39.3%
And that's frozen wasteland anyway, who cares.
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>>165145090
Traditionalists are the overreligious in NWO. You have more of them in Muslim and some African countries, less in the Americas and almost none in western Europe. I guess he used this term due to Japan (and China, in theory) not being religious in the slightest but having a ton of people who'd like to go back to their old, traditional ways.
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>>165145003
Cheers.
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>>165143769
>>165144307
Release Korea first, Koreans are bros.
the Germans can go though
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>>165143769
Is that decision in nwo or did you add it in?
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>>165145859
In NWO, it's overpowered as fuck.
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>>165145859
It's in NWO, oddly enough, and it was hosted on paradox plaza. 40% of Lowlands of UK are Black Anglo now because of my ethnic cleansing. Wew. I should note, jews are an accepted culture in USA for some odd reason so they're not getting genocided. In fact, lots of jews have been settling the Philippines.

Also Sino-Soviet War now.
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>>165145753
>ton of people who'd like to go back to their old, traditional ways.
Hanfu and grass sandals >>>>>>>> retarded faggots in skinnyjeans and hoodies
Suits are nice and crisp though.

>>165145817
>Koreans are bros
t. Korean
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goys whats a good second start to play in ck2? I did a reasonably succesfull irish game
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>>165145753
I think traditionalists represent religious people in general, so in USA they'd be the religious right, in muslim countries islamic parties in Europe it'd be a bit of both.
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>>165146069
Try Denmark in Viking Age or William in 1066. Go for some duke in the Byzantine Empire if you feel up to muh court intrigue.
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>>165146050
Could MacArthur Empire beat the Poo Confederacy in a one on one scenario?
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>>165146295
wew lad was this MP?
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LMAO

It looks like Spain decided to do ethnic cleansing as well, only France isn't so lenient on them.
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>>165146376
Nah, it's single player but I did a similiar blob in MP after some faggot joined in late and started powergaming as Russia so I blobbed to stay on equal footing
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I'm liking this Europe lads.
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>Be France in EUIV
>Take Papal Relations
>Angry at Province and Aragon, allied to both
>Break Alliance with Province
>Next day, get an alliance offer from Province
province don't make this hard on me baby
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>>165146549
Did you play on for longer (your sp game that is)? How did your world turn out? Was it fun??
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>>165146873
I just loaded up the save and took that screenshot so that's the world in its current state right there. The buildup is the most fun, right now my blob is so big nothing can touch me and my biggest enemy is event spam.
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>>165146516
Stupid Franco couldn't wait for those 0.10 points to burn off
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Soviets are getting a little cheeky considering they put their missiles on American territory... they really should change this up because Iceland turned communist so a missile crisis on there could be good.
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>>165146746
DELET THIS
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>>165146295
Probably not.
How do you even use nukes against a nation with 4 billion people and a bigger landmass than Russia?
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>>165146987
>We don't see anything
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>>165147153
You don't. Kill an Indian and he splits into five more. That being said, nukes are preventing me from blobbing into China properly - they almost immediately try to force a MAD so I only have a few months of stalling before it forces a while peace, so I can at the most get two regions per war instead of getting a full warscore's worth.

MP when?
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>Start a new game of CK2
>Sweden inherits Poland in the first 10 minutes
>France conquers eastern Spain
>Byzantium turns Catholic
>Novgorod, Turov and Polotsk get conquered by single province baltics with 10k memestacks
>Quit playing

Every game.
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>>165147248
I'm up for mp anytime today desu, never played one with NWO but it must be pretty fun.
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>>165147248
How do nukes work in NWO mod?
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>>165147398
>but it must be pretty fun
hehehe

>>165147461
They do fuckall, if you have nukes (not hard to get) you can get an event to nuke your enemies for 5 infamy which only reduces their land organisation by 50%. Once you get more advanced nuke tech (I think there's 3 tiers) there are also MAD events that will force a white peace between two nuclear nations at war.

It's a pretty shitty system but it seems like Simsulla never intended for there to be much conventional war anyway, especially with the retarded region overhaul he did later.
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>>165147567
So I'm guessing the Soviets nuked China?

Also what's this 'European' culture over in Germany and France popping up?
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>>165147689
>So I'm guessing the Soviets nuked China?
No? It just temporarily reduces land organisation, it doesn't actually do any damage to troops, pops, production etc. I haven't messed around much with the megastates but I'd assume that the European culture would start popping up once a GP starts going down the EU unification chain, like the single market/eurozone stuff, but it's a bit early for that.
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>>165078679
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>>165147689
>culture
>100% anything in Qinghai
?????????????????????????
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>>165143137
>Johan is seriously /ourguy/
>that fucking awful dev diary
Ages looks like it'll be the single worst fucking thing introduced to the game topping corruption, and that speaks volumes.
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>>165143137
>more features focusing on le ebin blob nations
Great Powers encouraging spreading your borders disgustingly wide was bad enough, now this Ages and Abilities bullshit? I guess there's officially no reason to play smaller/less historically relevant nations anymore whatsoever.
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>>165148524
>it's literally just a checklist of shit to go through
>None of the ages are really relevant to ROTW nations
What a fucking waste of time. And guess what, Ages is free but Splendour is paid for. Yeah I'm not buying this shit, shame I'm gonna have to stick to 1.19 but I guess I'll just stop playing with this shitty railroading

>start golden age
top fucking kek.
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>that feel when I want to bacome fascist but I'll lose out on European immigration
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What should I do with Europe lads? Should I release Ireland or give it to England?
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>>165148704
#teenagelife
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>>165148752
take back NI and give it to them, historically Ireland and the IRA sided with Hitler and would've fought the brits if they had any form of an organized force and enough resources.
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>>165148645
>buying this shit
Remzar will pull through for us. I wonder if MEIOU will do age abilities for every nation
Personally I don't mind Ages as much because it ATTEMPTS to solve the problem of some things just not mattering early on or some things that stop mattering later on.
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What are some CKII/EU4 mods where I can play in a very small map?
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>>165148759
no u
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>>165148645
Is that a gril
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>>165148872
Every single game will have the same boring fucking objectives. And honestly I don't play with mods because I like playing with what the game "is", if that makes sense. Good god, Johan leaves a sour taste in my mouth with the retarded shit he comes up with. Fuck Johan and if push comes to shove, fuck EU4, I'm abandoning it.
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>>165149006
beyond typus is ok, it makes provinces look better
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Any idea where hpm has disappeared to and when he'll be back?
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>>165147853
I guess it triggers early when you have Soviets on one side and genocidal Americans on the other. This could get fun late game, where its liberal Europeans vs commies vs populists. Does the Eastern Bloc have any chance of survival after 1991, or is it triggered by events to collapse?
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>>165149106
He said he moved to Germany and that he's going to spend some time with his family

>>165149184
lol, is that 10% blacks?
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>>165148884
p l s

respond
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>>165149184
>>165149184
Commiebloc dissolves after someone enacts a certain decision which becomes available once their grip over their sphere fades. What that means ingame terms is that X amount of countries need to be communist, AFAIK. The USSR is pretty easy to fuck over, someone in the MP game did it by 1960ish. Just try not to fuck over too many commie nations.
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>>165149321
Which version do you play in MP?
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>>165123375
how retarded can one man be
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>>165149006
>And honestly I don't play with mods because I like playing with what the game "is", if that makes sense
It...doesn't, really. Like, I get playing what the game was meant to be at least once, but that's like saying anyone who installs mods for Skyrim is playing it wrong.
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>>165149232
Yeah, 10% Black Anglo.

Also r8 my perfectly balanced economy.
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Hey folks, whats the name of that cool map mod for V2 and where can I get it? I have country colors but its not the one I see around here.
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quick give me a grossgermaniums in vic2
FAST
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>>165149953
oops
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>>165149426
We play 1.07

>>165149953
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Do Spanish lives matter lads?
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please show me your record for % liquor production in victoria 2
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>>165150213
>We play 1.07

Is that the latest?

If not, do you have a link?
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Last time I upgraded I lost all my DLC. How can I fix this?
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>>165150347
It's not the latest, 1.11something should be the latest, but the mod author went full retard after 1.07 so that's the version most people play. He fucked around too much with the regions, turning Norway into a single state while Yugoslavia alone has more regions (mostly one province regions) than France.
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>>165150347
>>165150469
forgot link

https://mega.nz/#!IAxxgKQY!KY7bZJndvWdlUF_LqYipw_oYW_S5p322qnGtesYRhwk
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>>165150347
when do we play?
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>>165091845
>People says there's no perfect Europe.
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>>165150949
what
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>>165150949
t changeowner pro
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>>165151302
Just Blob Mod + HPM.
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>>165149484
If it doesn't make sense then you misunderstand. I like playing on current versions of the game. I play it in a more tryhard, neckbeard type of way but I don't go for world conquests and ludicrous OPM starts.
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>>165091845
What do we think of the plan lads?
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>>165151426
Protectorate the savage Germans. Make Germany a coal mine.
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>>165150949
I dont touched the heart of Afrika but i took from England Algeria.

>tfw now im invested with Sandniggers
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>>165150858
When we get enough peeps, at least 4-5
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>>165151591
Host now.
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>>165151578
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kek, is the canadian flag change a thing in this mod too? pretty good
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>>165151660
>implying my ports are fortwarded
ask cap
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>>165151591
I'd prefer the to know the time, I'd play too
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Capncold host please.
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>>165151397
what's blob mod?
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>>165151701
Oddly aesthetic Persia.
>Sikh Kingdom
>Kingdom
What did they mean by this?
Also, why didn't you take your southern and western cores (Armenia and Azerbaijan)?
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>>165151764
+1 for summoning Capn
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>>165151706
uhh...

Is this gonna be a problem? Can soviets collapse the western bloc?
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Who's the avatarfag that roleplays as a girl here? I know he's a regular in MPs too.
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1st for Germano-Hungarian Communo-Teutonic Belgicums
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>>165152257
t.bubba
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>>165151843
It's a mod that gave you free conquest CB.
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>>165152338
Also it's led by Hitler
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>>165151849
I have both.
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SHEIITTT Italy took Danubian Federation.
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>>165152570
Also i loved how Brazil and Peru divided South America.

kek
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>>165152570
where can i acquire Blob Mod my dude?
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childhood is not wanting to be in a sphere of influence
adulthood is realizing economic unions are beneficial to all partners
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>>165152693
I can upload him somewhere but it wont be totaly compatible with HPM, you gonna need to change only one file of HPM CB File.
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thats a lot of soldier pops
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>>165152870
no prob my dude, just say what needs to be changed
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>>165151591
I'm there if there's a mp
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>>165152870
Better...

Just go to HPM Mod Folder>Common and Open CB_Types.txt

Find the line #Conquest and replace with this.


# Conquest
conquest = {
sprite_index = 2
is_triggered_only = yes
months = 12

badboy_factor = 0
prestige_factor = 0
peace_cost_factor = 1
penalty_factor = 1

break_truce_prestige_factor = 5
break_truce_infamy_factor = 2
break_truce_militancy_factor = 2
truce_months = 0

good_relation_prestige_factor = 1
good_relation_infamy_factor = 1
good_relation_militancy_factor = 1

construction_speed = 50
is_valid = {
num_of_cities = 1
THIS={num_of_cities = 1}
}
on_add = {
move_issue_percentage = {
from = jingoism
to = pro_military
value = 0.25
}
#nash ((
add_casus_belli = {
target = FROM
type = reparation
months = 36
}
any_pop={militancy= -2}
#nash ))
}

po_annex = yes

war_name = WAR_CONQUEST_NAME


In HPM the conquest line will be bigger so dont worry, wont affect any other CB types only conquest if you dont screw up, also make a backup of cb_types.txt before doing this.
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>>165153284
>tfw not enough good boy points to forward ports
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Woa.. this mod has new event textures too? This one seems like it was ripped from HoI3.
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>>165154270
Why does your flag have 5 stars?
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>>165154375
MacArthur coup, 5 stars represent his five star General status.

Also this won't actually turn me into a democracy will it?
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>>165154561
>5 stars represent his five star General status.
This is fucking ridiculous.

Also, how do they do different flags for different governments? Is it a new tag entirely or is it "fascist" USA?
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>>165153421
ay bruh it fucked your formatting, upload somewhere pls
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>>165154561
Post pops.
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>>165154648
>This is fucking ridiculous.

It was made for my playthrough by flagfriend. I know the US is unlikely to change their flag post-coup but it'd be pretty boring if I just used the standard stars and stripes. NWO originally had the populist flag as the Gadsden flag, which is pretty shit for a national flag.

>Also, how do they do different flags for different governments? Is it a new tag entirely or is it "fascist" USA?
Same way as regular Vicky, a "fascist" USA.

>>165154732
here
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>>165093230
which mod?
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>tfw dont have enough dark mana to turn into a goat
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>>165154883
Why so many Koreans? fucki fucki?
Also, what's the difference between socialist and big tent?
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Every faction in the 2nd American Civil War is National Populist.
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>>165155106
Their super special form of National Populism has never been tried.
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hey guys, I'm looking for japan mods for CK2. looks like the mod NIMH is popular, but not available as manual download. any tips?
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>>165155102
Probably because I refused to give South Korea independence. Seriously considering turning their pops into comfort women like that one Russian game from yesterday.
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>>165155258
>considering turning their pops into comfort women
How?
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SIM here. I finally got home so wanted to see if we got enough of the HPM game people on to continue. If not we'll continue on Friday.

t.SIM

sorry for taking over thread but I aint joining no steamgroup
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>>165155583
I can't be on until later today, probably 5-6 hours.
t. usa
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>>165155583
>sorry for taking over thread but I aint joining no steamgroup
Is SIM /ourguy/?
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>>165155583
>sorry for taking over thread but I aint joining no steamgroup

Translators Note:
>I could use any of the numerous platforms available to organise games, this would make mine and the lives of many others much easier, yet I refrain from doing so out of an irrational fear of anything 'group'.
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>>165155778
Reminder that Grandi doesn't want you to join a Steamgroup because then his R&I mafia won't control you and which mods you use.
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>>165155990
>irrational fear
I get a high enough autism dose when you guys join my games.
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>>165155990
this is not a steamgroup
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>>165152570
What is this? Gives every country a core everywhere or something?
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>>165155990
this

SIM's games tend to be boring hugboxes where everyone is to scared to stop germany anyway.

That's why i prefer Steam Group games
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>>165152257
>3
I am so fucking mad
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>>165156228
>>165156134
>>165156079
There are multiple steamgroups or you can start your own. You can also use Discord or any other program out there. Instead when /gsg/ MP happens the thread becomes 'rehost pls general'
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>>165156228
at least we make it 1900 unlike your 1836-1850 sim
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>>165156034
But we have steamcordplaza and they don't control what mods we use?
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>>165156228
You say in the game where everyone got together to stop Germany from forming until 1868? The other games have just been the steam group people getting salty and rage quitting when they lose.
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>>165156334
I genocided like 60m people in that game, look at the pops
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>>165156397
>at least we make it 1900 unlike your 1836-1850 sim
More things happen in our short games than your long boring cuddlefest

>>165156034
nailed it

>>165156453
Still formed earlier than in irl. Also KUK spent most of the game sucking at the teutonic teat to avoid losing muh soldier pops

Germany was the only competent player in the game.
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>>165155583
I'm here and ready. Might be best to do it on Friday though, since more people would be around. I'll try to finish up my college shit before then.

t. CIA

>>165156541
Fuck off Trilby. You're so fucking obvious. Get your shit, and get out. Stop being so butthurt about Persia. Also, just as a reminder, I regret nothing. :^)
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>>165156541
>Still formed earlier than in irl
By a smashing 3 years.
>Also KUK spent most of the game sucking at the teutonic teat to avoid losing muh soldier pops
He was having his first MP game. Understandable that he would do stupid shit
>Germany was the only competent player in the game.
Wew. Just a reminder that I stalemated him as Austria. Even though he had an extra 150 brigades on me and 3 military techs. I could have kept him at war for 5 years easily.
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>>165157185
>. Even though he had an extra 150 brigades on me and 3 military techs. I could have kept him at war for 5 years easily.
Yes, good luck keeping your empire together with all of Bohemia and Galicia Lodomeria occupied for 5 years
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>>165157301
>Thinking I have a stability problem
Sorry but I am not shit like you.
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good thread
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>>165157446
Yes, having half your country occupied for 5 years is a sign of great skill.
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It's funny sometimes
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>>165155583
It's a good call lad
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>>165157670
Isn´t that both english or am I missing something there?
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>>165157612
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>>165157670
The only way I can see this making sense is if words like "lorry" were used instead of truck.
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>>165157998
SIM, don't even bother. Trilby's autism can't be fixed.
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Why is ck2 so shit past 1 kingdom title?
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>>165157998
Except Poland was occupied too you idiot

>>165158070
who the fuck is trilby
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>>165158101
Because the AI is shit.
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>>165157938
>>
Is there some good HOI3 Lets Play ?
Like with guy actually discussing his strategy, drawning plans, theme naming units and corps,armies and shit ??

Or am i too autistic to want something like that ?
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wait are we playing today?

t. taisho
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>>165143137
>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-10th-of-january-2017.993709/
Is Paradox Plaza down?
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>>165120107
The mod must be broken as hell with no institutions for the first 100 years.
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>>165104026
Isn't the whole point of the game just to force the Day of the Rake?
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>>165113914
I know this comic was just a joke, but army numbers were counted using some mathemagical shit which only required a few rearrangements of the whole army to get the exact number
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>>165158829
Not by the looks of it.
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I'm getting some Yugoslavia vibes. Which group should I remove?
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>>165158101
Same problem with all paradox games, as soon as you get slightly big you're unstoppable
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>>165159498
childhood is geniciding your non accepted pops
adulthood is realizing they're better off alive
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>>165159498
FRCA is surprisingly similar to yugoslavia. they both broke up for the same reason - fear that one republic would dominate the rest (guatemala and serbia respectively)
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what game takes the longest time to complete the grand campaign?
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Just got WitE.

Started on the Road to Smolensk, this is where I am after turn 1. Drew in my plans. Despite the name of the scenario I am going to try and whiz past Smolensk and let my rearguard infantry take it after.

Expecting to hit resistance along the Dnepr and the woods around Vitebsk, so might not get that far.
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>>165160056
Wrong thread lad
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>>165160095
How so?

It is a strategy game on a grand scale, i.e. grand strategy.

It is what HoI4 should have been.
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>>165160217
>grand scale
>a front in one war
>grand scale
It's a wargame and you have a thread for that
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>>165160095
>>165160056
Oh, in case it wasn't clear, the black line is the Dnepr river. The blue lines are the rivers of which I want to secure the "inner" banks to cover my advance.
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>>165143137
that seems quite shit.
Fuck why do they keep ruining eu4
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>>165155583
SIM can you upload a save so I can see the situation?

t. AnimeWeedLord.
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>>165160447
>ruining
implying it wasn't ruined from the start lad
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>>165155583
I might just play Hungary
t. Ottoman empire
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>>165160576
well, i'm no eu3 player, but ever since i bought eu4 it seems like every single patch has just made it worse.

I do have eu3 on steam tho (from some Humble Bundle sale), should I just switch? does the future only hold sadness for eu4?
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>>165160447
they just need to fix institutions (bring back tech groups for penalties on spread) and it would be decent
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>>165150069
>Patagonia
>French
It was just a single madman claiming it for himself, not for France.
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>>165160320
It is the single largest invasion in human history. It is the single largest military campaign in human history. Nothing prior or since comes close to the scale of the war fought in the east.

It is a strategy game on a grand scale, i.e. grand strategy.

Here a closeup of what I hope will be the divisions to take Vyazma. Four tank divisions and their HQ's along with motorized infantry supporting their advance.
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OH SHI
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>>165159669
Yeah, the problem is a lack of internal management.
Expanding your empire is more fun for most players than trying to hold on to your gains so Paradox makes games that let you paint the map how you like without having to worry about actually managing it.
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>>165160847
*passes reform*
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>>165148752
>>165148845
I decided to deal with balkans first. I'm probably going to release Ireland sooner or later though. Right now I have no idea what to do with middle east. I could release Ottomans which would get pretty much everything or I could release few smaller nations (Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Palestine / (((Israel))) Saudi Arabia).

Another option is to kick Iraq from alliance then annex them and create Greater Israel/Greater Syria.
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>>165160847
You pops woke af
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>>165160823
>It is the single largest invasion in human history
Doesn't make it grand strategy. It's just a front in a war aka a wargame. Go to your own general
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>>165160850
It's a psychological thing. Losing feels shit, and if a key part of your game feels shit then no one is gonna play it.

Really you should be losing more often, lands should go back and forth etc.
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>>165160961
>>>/reddit/
wargames are here /gsg/ approved faggot
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>>165160961
Stop being such a petty ass.
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>>165160514
https://mega.nz/#!jY8zhTpA!Uxkgju3gqOXkva_SCxTumUesMiEf5yfGfzHyO-Rz2q8
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>>165159983
I'm willing to say CK2 from a memestart
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>>165161113
>/gsg/ approved
>nowhere in the topic besides you faggot trying to force it here

>>165161179
Can we start posting civ here now then too?
If you want wargames, post in the wargames general. No one needs to post here.
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>>165161202
thanks babe.
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how do I gain over 50% world liquor production as a small pop country?
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>>165161278
just because some idiot removed them from thread pic doesn't mean theyre leaving
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>>165161992
become a big pop country
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>>165162074
ok what if I'm a medium pop country?
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>>165160945
That generalgovernment polen needs to desu
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>>165091845
wow, heaven kingdom destroy qing empire
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>>165155575
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>>165162149
become a big pop country, start by conquering warri
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This blob mod thing is p epic
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>>165163294
Thanks Russiabro, I also finally put it to use.
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well fuck
I established Kingdom of Italy that is ruled by 2 popes
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>>165164069

can we get a GP list/shift+F12 map of US and territory pls? or just a general world map

thanks desu lad
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>>165164379
Sure. GPs are 1. USA 2. USSR 3. UK 4. Japan 5. France 6. Brazil 7. Germany 8. India
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What's /gsg/'s recommendation for a mobile game?
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>>165165316
HOI4
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>>165165316
Angry Birds
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This blob mod thing is REALLY epic
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>>165161992
i don't know
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>>165165589
I want to see this Russia fight this France

How many pops does Russia have? Does annexing a country make everything states?
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>>165165839
Russia has a population of 116.67M.

nah, it just changes the conquest cb around
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Is there any real way to get more migrants then the USA? Outside of that one new world event and if the USA is in a war I find they always get at least 20% more migrants then me.
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>>165164069
Kek, nice
>ywn be a GI after WW2 with a Korean harem
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>>165165839
Hey, you're in steamcordplaza, right? Can you tell me who's behind the "getting triggered by /pol/" meme? Is it genuine or is it a false flag to make people hate you more?
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>>165142041
>implying the US isn't literally Whore of Babylon
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>>165165839
Happening. hopefully someone adds memey shit
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>>165167258
>12
>77.2
>100+
>42/80
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>>165167437
status quo. kys france
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>>165167258
Steam group doesn't make memes anymore or even post in the thread

Discord and Radyugo do all the shitposting
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>>165164268
>not having a diarchy of Pope-Kings as your rulers
t.plebeian
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>>165154561
No, there's a whole decision chain to turn into a democracy.
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>>165167883
Hence why the catch all term for shitposters, steamcordplaza, was founded. It combines every group that's trying to destroy /gsg/.
Pic related, SJW steamcordplaza meme.
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>>165167258
>posting the wrong pic
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can I please have the production tree in vic2?
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>>165169000
It wasn't the literacy that pissed off steamcordplaza, it was the fact he went out of his way to make it white majority. But, as I'm trying to ascertain, I don't know whether that really was SJWs from steamcordplaza or a false flag.
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>>165169159
I agree, it's a really shit meme. It's probably legit, but it's definitely based on another meme about a kid partitioning Africa, the later being sort of decent at least.
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>>165168903
no but the steamgroup doesn't care

it's mostly that underaged fuck cobraa and his bitch ass little friends
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>>165169898
>that underaged fuck cobraa and his bitch ass little friends
kek someone please post the "i made this the first time i was drunk" screencap
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>>165155583
host it already damn
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>>165164268
What would you prefer? Three Popes?
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>>165164069
I think I just realized why I love taking treaty ports and Asian colonies.
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>>165157998
To be fair you had a fucking 6 defense general, not much I can do about that other than hope for better generals myself.
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Just started playing Natal and want to form South Africa. What should I NOT do to avoid fucking up events?
I'm thinking of conquering the Zulu immediately because they can't supply their troops
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kek
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hmmm...
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SOMEONE HOST MP
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What vic2 mod should I use if I like PDM's events, nations, and mechanics but without a broken economy and historical focus?
Should I just go with HPM?
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>usa loses 10,000 pounds
>I get 100,000 pounds
is this a mistake or is there something im missing? Also should I do it?
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>>165171074
kek
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>>165171201
this
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>>165171201
soon.... i hope
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>>165170012
I honestly don't know why they don't just go to reddit. They love repetative memes and they love to think that they're superior for only knowing how to play EU4 and HoI4.

>>165169409
I know the one you mean, the one that's a spin off of pic related. They took it to a new level with >>165168903 though because they got so triggered by a post they decided to make an anti-apartheid OC just to show how butthurt they were.
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>>165171134
>not switching over to France so we can see their stats
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anyone want to host vicky2?
and which version do I run?
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>>165163294
cuck
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>>165171253
It's probably so it doesn't bankrupt the AI
Also, do you even own Guantanamo? It doesn't look like it on the map
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>>165172025
here's some pops I guess
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>>165172185
3.04 with the latest HPM most of the time
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EU4 is fucking shit. I thought I could take individual CoTs, build marketplaces there and get a monopoly on trade by doing that, but you get less than half the market by doing that, meaning you have to blob into jungle niggers in order to actually get any sizable amount of income from trade, despite the positive modifiers you still get nothing.

The literal only thing of worth in this game is the map painting.
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>>165172684
hpm 3.6 is this latest?
And my vicky2 is 3.03 in launch window.
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I don't think this is normal
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Sim HOST cunt
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>>165171006
Conquer Xhosa since they're usually the first to get absorbed by Britain. Annex Matabele and Basutoland next before other Boer states can be established.
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>>165174010
I saw someone else posting that that prevents the trek boer events and will leave me without any boer population
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tfw you annex Cohaulia in the mid-1850s and allow slavery but they side with you when the South secedes

based Mexicans

maybe i won't genocide them all when i go fascist now
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>>165172761
>1651
>that much colonised land
Ebin
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>>165173701
Leaving in an hour so no. Looks like we'll need to wait until Friday to get the game together again.
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>>165174361
Only parts of it are actual provinces, the wasteland is just coloured in because I own 50%+ of the provinces surrounding it.

You still shouldn't be able to conquer Rhodesia in the 16th century, though.
>inb4 some smart arse says it's the 17th
When I conquered it it was the 16th century.
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How do I make the soviets go from commies to based in NWO?
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production just shot up 10%
I think the liquor market crashed
51% when?
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>>165174690
>argentina player
>liquor memer
potomac
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>>165174567
how about you NOT leave and just host anyway?
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>do everything I can to encourage immigrants to come to my country and make it Euro
>get flooded with Mestizos, dagos, and wops instead
I guess I dug my own grave
>>
What's the optimal division template for paratroopers?
I understand that combat width of 20 would be optimal, so should I just spamm paratrooper units until I reach 20 cw, or should I add some regular infantry to improve organisation?
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>>165174831
I have work so no anon.
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>>165174929
quit your job and get neetbux
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So if I play argentina if I puppet Bolvivia I annex them when I form La Plata right?
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How do I suppress the liquor price in order to take control of the market?
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Is Khoisan white?
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>>165175629
As white as they come friend.
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>>165175629
whiter than most europeans
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>>165176035
>>165175808
>>165175629
>have to convert these niggers to gas them
really makes u think
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>>165176035
that's a man with tits
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>>165163294
PLEASE I STILL NEED MORE
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Rate my GroBBayeriums

German borders are fucking ugly in this mod. I used to think that the historical imperial German borders just seemed aesthetic to me because I looked at them so many times, but I will never get used to DoDs Germany.
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>>165176219
Im fairly sure your not wiping them out your converting them in the same way a person may had called themselves a roman. You assimilate the people in a way they act dutch were their cloths speak the language but they are still black. More of a cultural genocide then a physical one.
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>>165176317
>>165176219
Don't be racist anons, we're all one race
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>>165175294
Anyone?
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>>165176496
How do I physically genocide them?
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>>165176478
Just take the Sudetenland or even all of Böhmen and Mahren + Preßburg and it's aesthetic as fuck
>>165176668
You don't anon, that's not progressive
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>>165176664
You can just sphere them. But puppeting and sphering them later works.
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>>165176668
play Victoria 2 by Johann Andersson, published by Paradox Interactive!
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>>165176668
You dont really you basically do it to the injuns and there are a few events manly turkish that imply they are being killed off. Your just gonna have to headcanon that you are mowing them down with your super advanced muskets even if signs point differently.
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>>165176760
There's no Sudetenland state in this mod, I'd have to changeowner every Bohemian province that isn't Prague, and I missed out on getting cores on all of Bohemia because that shit wouldve put me so far over the infamy limit that I'd get shit on. Dual Monarchy is powerful as fuck.

The Bratislava province is ugly as fuck too, no thanks. This is the best I could
>>
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>>165176946
This is the mod were not Rheinhard can coup the dual monarchy right?
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>>165176946
Oh, sometimes I forget what non-HPM states look like
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>>165176850
>>165176818
>>165176760
I'm just going to pretend I'm killing them.
Should I make Rhodesia white as well?
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Grandi was right to lower the liquor price
now I can gain more of the market share
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>>165177223
Of course laddo
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any lad willing to give me a fresh link to CK2+ or other similar overhaul mod?
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>>165177394
>become empire
>become germanic cultural union
What sort of fucking memers are programming this shit?
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If I park a fleet outside of a port will that stop the enemy resupplying through that port?
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>>165178108
Why doesnt the AI break out? Theres no way 1 greek division could stop 15 german ones.
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40% :DDDD
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>>165177635
please respond
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>>165178252
They tried but I reinforced the Greeks with superior Australian divisions in time.
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>>165177645
>gassing khoisans
>hasn't wiped walloons from all of recorded history yet
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>>165177645

You do realize dutch are swamp germans, right?
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>>165177635
>>165178305
found it myself

Here's a link for anyone else wondering

http://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/public/214374/CK2Plus%204.05.4b.zip
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>>165177645
gypsies BTFO
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I'm like 5 minutes from home, will host when I Arrive

t. ab
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>tfw want to see what a Khoisan looks like in an urban place but can't find anything other than some hundred separatist benders
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I'm like 3 minutes from home, will host when I Arrive

t. ab
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/gsg/ is just cancerous with how many teenagers try to force memes here.
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>>165174641
>the wasteland is just coloured in because I own 50%+ of the provinces surrounding it.
A bit stupid desu
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>>165178942
Mandela was half khoisan i believe
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>>165178923
>>165179070
going to sleep anyway
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>>165178108
If you have them set to search and destroy/raid convoy then they will definitely kill things trying to supply them.

Not sure if parking right outside will do so.
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>>165178942
Damn look at that motherfucking kid

You just know he's gonna be a criminal when he grows up
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>>165172761
>hm my trading post only gives me a large chunk of the market
>should I shore it up with a few ships which I get for nothing as the netherlands?
>nah lets just kill everyone else instead
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I'm like -1 minute from home, will host when I Arrive

t. ab
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>>165179405
Fuck off

t. ab
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>>165179405
I'm like -3 minutes from home, will host when I Arrive

t. ab
>>
Why do all the positive modifiers in CK2 only last like 2 years but all the negative ones last for a decade or more?
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Never seen the AI take Hainan before.
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Which version of HPM did UnHPM work with?
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>>165179649
Never seen Pingnan Guo of that size
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>>165179815
Shit, I didn't even notice that.
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>>165179649
IIRC the AI preference goes Formosa > Macao > Hong Kong > Shanghai > Port Arthur > Ningbo > Hainan, with Formosa needing some specific techs I can't remember.
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The "assimilation" is going well, lads!
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lmao u've been bamboozled

t. abo
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>>165180089
where do my hpm screenshots go?
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>>165180195
>that Dutch province in Zambia
What's the logic behind this
Also, how didn't they make provinces in Transvaal while they did provinces in the Northern Cape?
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>>165180575
>Also, how didn't they make provinces in Transvaal while they did provinces in the Northern Cape?
>expecting any sort of logic or rational decision-making from Paradox in EU4 or Hoy4
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Is there a better nation than Bhutan to be observer in KR for DH?
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What did he mean by this?
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I wonder what this "Boer" society would be like IRL
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>>165181361
That he's an absolute degenerate
>>
45.30.112.32

HPM, keksum is PSGK

Join up you dumb stupid idiots
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Guys how do you make an HPM Germany game interesting?

Roleplaying as the ruling party? Not taking any colonies?
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>>165181660
Immaturity is senseless blobbing as an ugly-borders "Großdeutschland". Adulthood is realizing autistic roleplay and good borders makes more sense.
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>>165181660
Start as Switzerland
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>>165181376
Bosniaks are white and they'll convert when assimilating anyway.
Good to see you blobbed into the right places this time btw
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>>165181606
Wait for me senpai
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Brunei decided to holy war me because ooga booga stop bringing civilisation here. So I decided to teach them a lesson.
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>>165182232
Nobody is joining tbqh

Guess you faggots don't want MP then
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>>165181606
gimme like 5 minutes faggot
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>>165182065
Don't compare me to that disgusting memeblob picture that goes around on here
This is purely being done for aesthetics
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>>165182396
Fine my nigga
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>>165181606
I'll be there tomorrow
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>>165182543
Pretty neat desu
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>>165181606
coming lads
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>>165181606
Give me a month
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Should I make them into states?
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>>165182543
Waifu tier South Africa, good luck getting all that shit though.

Why are /pol/ cucks so obsessed with South Africa and meming all the local niggas?
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>>165176219
I thought colonizing that place would make it dutch?
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Is it enough to rename a png flag I found here to .tga or do I need to convert it somehow?
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hmmmmmmm
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>>165183021
You should kys
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>>165178108
No. Ports = autosupply. There's no convoy supply involved, not even kidding. However, if they try to flee through the port, your fleet will destroy them as they leave. You also get a shore bombardment bonus if you attack them.
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>>165181376
How do you get immigrants as Natal?
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>>165183173
desu this
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>>165183113
>you will never live in this timeline
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>>165183113
Wat is dat denn für ne Scheiße
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>>165183092
It's enough. It's just like when you rename a .ogg or a .exe file to .mp3, it becomes a MP3 file. That's exactly how computers work.
>>
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>>165183240
The "trek boers" modifier you get from the Boer Republic decision
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>mfw GR is playing prussia again

memes never die
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>>165183113
based
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>165161278
Not him but I have tf2, which is a war game that spans a very large area of land, can I post that here? What about minesweeper
>>
>>165183358
No need to be so smug. This situation differs from your hyperbolic one because the file was made as a .tga and only made into a .png so it could be posted here.
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>>165183751
Really makes u think
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HPM server, 45.30.112.32

checksum PSGK

bring your liquor factories
>>
>>165183113
>faroe islands
how?
>>
>>165183032
>Why does a primarily white-nationalist/supremacist board love a nation where a bunch of white people settled and created what was essentially a European nation until it was overrun

gee anon idk
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R8 my Tupiniquim survival game

* be Tupiniquim
* migrate to Uruguay
* Portuguese snatch my lands
* convert to Catholicism, then to Protestantism as a middle fingle to these papist land thieves
* currently setting up colonies in Baja California and Canada
* we truly are kangz
>>
>>165183994
released and switched to by Denmark so I could observe
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>>165183806
I bow to your logic and superior knowledge of computers. That's how computers work.
>>
>>165184064
The concept of "white nationalism" is a meme tbqh
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>>165183994
Truly, this is unfathomable.
Never before has this board or its citizens seen such a thing, it should be simply impossible.
We demand answers! For the good of the realm.
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>>165183173
>>165183262
Wondered how long it would be until butthurt Steamcordplaza SJWs showed up.
>>
>>165183792
Neither of those are wargames. Wargames have been allowed in /gsg/ since long before they were dumbed down enough for you to play. Seriously, fuck off and let them post. The Grigsby games are not that different from HoI, but surely you don't complain about that.
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>>165183113
Is this the best possible timeline?
I think so.
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>>165183615
>they let him join
Kek, this new generation of MP memers is the worst
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>>165184394
Cancer.
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>>165184064
>mfw I get reminded that edgy Amerifats think "White" is a nation.

>>165184394
>everyone who thinks my forced edgy memes are shit is an ess jay doubyu

It's people like you that give the right wing a bad name.
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>>165184539
>>165184541
Does this trigger you, lads?
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God damn it.
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>>165184807
Nope, I always subjugate South Africa when I play as the Dutch too.
I'm just not an angsty teen about it.
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>>165184394
Why would be people be butthurt? A province changing culture in EU is supposed to be cultural assimilation.
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>>165185028
He knows that but he's pretending he killed off all the natives and grew Boers in crops >>165177223
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>>165115780
If you're here still do you need help making SEA country and Caribbean flags?
>>
>>165183574
How did you get the named changed ?
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>>165185321
Can you say that not from pakistan?
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It's coming on to Christmas 1945.

Vienna has been nuked twice, and Milan once. The USSR collapsed in 1944 and the USA didn't join until 1943.

Switzerland just joined the Allies.

All of Italy lives in terror as Australians ransack the country for IC and resources, executing any who oppose them under the harshest occupying regime possible.

Almost 10% of the Australian population are casualties in this war.

Feels dystopian man.
>>
>>165185321
Probably by changing them in the save
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>>165185459
Wrong thread
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>>165185459
Did you kill off the Japs already?
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>>165185623
Haven't touched them but the Americucks are island-hopping their way there.
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>>165185459
>playing Memes of Iron 4 for Mobile
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>>165185459
>Almost 10% of the Australian population are casualties in this war.
I deslike how in HOI4 all your casualties are automaticaly recovered when the war ends.
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>>165185459
Not a Grand Strategy game, please leave.
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The Dutch East India company continues to grow.
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hmmmm

When the fuck will Sweden lose their cores on me and how do I encourage craftsmen faster, my economy is good enough for lazy fairy but pop promotion to clerks and craftsmen didn't change from the previous interventionist government at all
Fucking Nowray will catch up with my industry, I used to compete with Sweden but now they have twice the industrial score I have
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>>165185321
>>165185525
I made an autism mod a while back for boer South Africa
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>>165185798
>>165185798
>>165185798
>>165185798
>>165185798
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>>165185918
Are these historical ?
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I'm like -69 minutes from home, will host when I Arrive

t. ab
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>>165185276
I'm open to hear new ideas. You got something in particular you wanna share?
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>>165185712
>the island that got cucked so hard by America that they rioted calling anyone else cucks
Lad
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>>165186004
Sort of, for some I picked a town within the borders of the province that had an Afrikaans name (Caledon), for some I just did a half-assed semi-translation (Ladysmith to Vrousmith, Vrou just being Dutch for Lady), and for others I just made something Afrikaans-sounding up.
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>>165186146
Well since new threads up I'll post there
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>>165186146
Do you wanna make a flag for a flanders dominated Wallonia ?
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>>165186005
imagine killing yourself
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>>165186342
Wouldn't Flanders just blob on Wallonia?

>>165186318
Very well.
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>>165186442
Yeah i guess so
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I'm very hungry
give cement plz
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>>165091845
Hey /gsg/ I'm playing KAissereich as Germany. What nations should I try to invite into MittleEuropa manually using diplomacy and which should I avoid and instead do by event. I don't want to muck anything up by accident by manually allying someone I shouldn't
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>>165184821
>that many points to integrate South Africa
>Meanwhile France and Britain turn the Caribbean and South Africa into states 30-40 years into the game.
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