/lidg/ Let It Die General

>>164508065
>tdm team california
based op, someone finally done it

ded game

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Has anyone completed the decal book? I want to see them decals.

KATANA BLUEPRINT WHERE???
IM BARELY MAKING IT ALIVE ON FLOORS 31+ HERE

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Are OK stamps good enough for the scythe bp? Or does every single one need to be perfect?

>>164508653
see >>164508065

>>164508654
scythe is for finished the book, doesn't matter how well you do

>>164508653
an anon found it on his shooter char today so try that

Discord link for those who want it: https://discord.gg/EV9dZ

>>164508721
Thanks but it's not specific
>>164508773
>Shooter
I'm gonna die.

>Saw my first treasure tuber
>oh boy oh boy
>drops a gold blueprint
>WHAT COULD IT BEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Bowling Stomper

Could have been worse, I actually think this is a pretty fun weapon. It's rage move is especially ace.

>>164508729
Thanks senpai. Was worried I was stuck having to go and redo like 10 stamps.

How do i even get close to Lvl 3 Jin-die?

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>>164508830
This isn't exactly conclusive by any means, but it looks to be 31-35 specific, and rarer than pork chopper. But if knight-anon is right, those probabilities might be different for classes that aren't attacker. So maybe try Shooter, might be pleasantly surprised.

>>164509117
Transparagus makes every fight outside of COEN a joke. Especially Jin Die.
Farm up those shrooms, senpai.

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>tfw you go nuclear

>>164509310
You're neat for doing this
Now if only I could find the clay head. Elusive piece of shit

>>164509381
I should have known.
Unfortunately, i was only scouting out her floor when i bumped into her obviously labelled room.

Shame on me now that i gotta do the hard route.

LOWEST FLOOR OR BEST PLACE TO GET WAR ENSEMBLE RED

>>164509546
farm jindie on f38

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>>164509546
If you're feelin' lucky and if you have the elevator to Yatsuo, you can take the elevator there then go down to Wakaba for it's golden chest. Just be sure not to enter the golden building or the fence will close behind you.

Anything good on the upcoming rotation?

>>164509310
WHERE IS THE NIGHT SCOUT SET
EVEN THAT CUNT RUNNING GYAKUFUNSHA WON'T SELL THEM

>>164509994
is this for only this rotation or its always there?

>>164509546
Easiest method is a quest to kill some odd enemies with some specific weapon. I unfortunately do not remember the floor you need to get to (it's past 31) or the weapon required, but it's an easy single.

Lowest area is Koshi-Yama on 32F, but to get there on days outside of rotation 4 you need to go through Katsuma/Nitanda, meaning either U-10 or COEN. On rotation 4 you can go Togose/Obara > Osuki > Akabadai > Koshi-Yama. Rotation 4 is coming up in 20 minutes so you're kind of in luck there.

Then there's the most reliable way, farming JIN-DIE on Ebata 38F

Or if you've gotten further, >>164509994 is the easiest to access and easiest trap to deal with, but Yatsuo can be hard to reach.

>>164510052
Knight-anon's original post had Night Scout being the most common thing he found 16-19 while playing as a Skill Master. I haven't tested that myself, but if you're inclined to try it out you might find some luck.

Threadly reminder: Its not a kill unless its an overkill!

>>164510150
>Knight-anon's original post had Night Scout being the most common thing he found 16-19 while playing as a Skill Master. I haven't tested that myself, but if you're inclined to try it out you might find some luck.
I guess Skill Master will be my next character then. Will report back.

>>164510124
Yatsuo and Wakaba do not rotate.

>>164510296
I distinctly remember Wakaba having a different approach from the top in a different rotation.

>You have to kill your hater, you can't let enemies kill it

This is equally parts cool and frustrating.

>>164510614
The connections of non-rotating floors do not change, but some of them gain additional connections on rotation. Jiyu-Toge (38F) on rotation 2 connects down to Wakaba in addition to Yatsuo.

>Went to sleep forgetting about raids with 40k KC
>Woke up with 16k KC

>>164510763
It's retarded. I've gotten quest credit for shit a hunter did.

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>>164509117
She has cooldowns sometimes where she'll let you close, shit is pretty random. I got pretty lucky here and she did her mortar attack twice.

Her normal head-shooting attack can be rolled out of after the second hit and only the third hit knocks down.

The lightning attack tracks really well and the aoe penetrates cover, so stay really far away.

>>164510874
Same. Fuck.

>>164509310
What are the numbers? How many times you've found them?

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>>164509384
>Still always full

>>164509994
Is it possible to get from Yatsuo to Wakaba, or is it locked before beating GOTO at Itanodai?

Okay. I am going to do it. I am going to fight a Jackal

Whats the best floor and room to fight them in?

>>164509310
Dunno if you're collecting random data, but my Skill Master found Splatter 13 Boots on 27f Shinko-Bashi and Night Scout Pants on 11f Maka-Tsutumi.

I'm starting to think there's something to playing different character classes.

>>164511021
Yeah, to give a rough idea on drop chance. Like how spear is ridiculously common 36+, or Pork Chopper being way more common than Katana, etc etc.

Originally I just had one sheet and I would just write a character representing each class if I had found it as that, but I ended up finding everything as Attacker and it didn't adequately represent how common pork chopper/spear were, so I split it into 8 subsections for each class, and a section for each tier so I could look at more manageable slices.

Unfortunately this will make it kind of hard to share so I'll have to find some sort of way to... condense the data to more easily share it.

>new patch hits in feb
>adds in the ability for haters and hunters to use the items in their inventories
>Switching weapons
>Eating heals
>brainshrooms and guardshrooms

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looks like we dont really need to stack shit so high

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>>164510874
>go to sleep with 42 KC
>wake up with 38 KC

BuuwohoooNO my pwecious pennies!

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Reminder that a man who's obsessed with crusaders spent 5 days finding the knight set, which led to the discovery of the Loot Algorithm from pure insanity

What a fucking champ

Just beat Crowley, but what the fuck do I do now? 31+ just fucking stomps me, Bone Tubers are everywhere and they one-shot me.

>>164511590
>bone tubers one-shotting you
try wearing armor????

>>164511571
Loot algorithm?

>Take slowmungus to fukuiki
>Last time the gate was just past the hater
>Kill hater and use the shroom
>Run
>Run more
>Keep running
>WHERE THE FUCK IS ITT
>Slowmungus runs out just before the gate
>The gate closes

>Another run
>Make it this time
>Lotsa chests
>Money and a dupe pitching machine bp
>I'm locked
>Like, really there's no way out
Seriously, is this a motherfucking deathtrap? That COSTS shrooms to kill yourself?

>>164511634
He's not going to have any decent armour at that point, dumbass. And their new homing charge attack is also their strongest.

>>164511590
Adding to this, my best weapons are an unupgraded cleaver saber and +4 red hot iron+.
My top and bottom armors are Barrett Punisher, and my head is Agamemnon.

>>164511590
what do you need for Crowley? i was told sting shrooms, but is that for you to eat or him?


anyone have the Webm of Jin-die puke beaming on someone twice in a row? shits hilarious

>>164511702
You unlock the gates from clearing trap rooms in the floor above it. That you can even use transparungus to get in is likely an oversight.

>>164511702
You're not supposed to slow time to get in there. Fukuiki has an elevator that connects to 3 other floors, if you go to each and beat the trap on that floor and unlock the valve therein, the valves on Fukuiki become accessible. This all has to be done in one run. It's not worth it at all.

>>164511745
I don't want to sound like a jerk but Bone Tubers are the most telegraphed enemy in the game besides scratch and reversal tubers. They also attack straight into walls and invariably spawn within 5 seconds of a wall you can bait them into attacking then counter.

Post more Uncle Death

>>164511847
>eat 2 transparagus
>eat 2 stingshrooms
>eat 2 crushrooms
>eat 1 snailshroom
>spam +4 iron+
>dead in 20 seconds

Yeah you eat stings. Abusing shrooms is how I've killed every boss since F10.

>>164511702
JACKALS SPAWNED THIS ISNT MY DAY
HOW DO I GET OUT
>"cest la vie"
>whistling
HEEELP

>captcha is "one way"

>>164512059
Start praying

>>164512059
Second jackal in.
I'm curled up in a corner.
They haven't found me
I promise I'll never joke abou Aanie Frank again
THIRD JACKAL FUCK

>>164512059
You don't get out. You fucking LET IT DIE

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>>164512059
>>164512238

>>164512238
good bey

>>164512195
>>164512251
>>164512292
>>164512297
Jackals aren't finding me.
I can hear their tiptoes.
I'm in a corner with 2 skeletons. Considering leaving because they are spooking me

>>164512415
Bet you wish you had some Trypt D.
I think you're only other option is taking a step out of your hiding spot so the fucker with the gun can blow your brains out from a mile off. Then buy your dude back.

>>164512415

How do you think those skeletons got there, senpai? You are merely the next link in the chain.

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>>164508065
Just ate about 30 guardshrooms and went into the final boss, game crashes and the recovery cost is twice my cap

Think I'm just gonna stop playing until they update the game with more content or something.

Im really close to drop this game.
Today i farmed for like 8-9hours, and i got one black milk. ONE.
I killed Taro three times, and he gave fucking KILL COINS all three times.
I drank like 9-10 stews, and ofc no decal i want.
Other than that, fucking around in the tower.

Fucks sake, fruitless grinding is pretty much what madness is.
Tell me one reason not to drop this broken grindfest.

>>164512578
This is not worth a trippy d.
I may be pretty spooked, but I'm still greedy as a Jew
Took one step out.
Gun jackal is admiring the gate.
The others are bugged INSIDE the gates.
Gonna take screenshots.
How do I post ps4 screenshots here? I may post it in the ps4 group

Are the "kill everything" quests no longer bugged?

>>164512727
Wouldn't U-10 be better for milk?

>>164512807
YUCK THE VOICE OF SWORD JACKAL.
I SHOULD HAVE LET THE GUN ONE KILL ME

I FUCKING HATE RED HOT IRON

How do I quest? Is it worth it to level a second fighter when I max my first grade one?

>>164513015
Well memed.

>>164512727
To be honest, maybe it's the autism but I actually love grinding. To work hard for something and not have ti handed to me. I know this is not the opinion of a lot of people.

>>164510787
Congratulations. You're retarded.

Wakaba is no longer connected to Yatsuo; like I fucking said. Now you have to go through extra floors to reach Wakaba from ANY direction.

I said post more Uncle Death

>>164513237
there is always nakasaki -> yataka cho

>>164513298

Nobody's listening, senpai.

>>164513235
Its not like i want shit without working for it.
Bit i grinded more than healthy in monster hunters and warframe.
My patience is running thin for grinding by now.
And i dedicated this day, whole day to grind milks, and you read what happened. I even used an express pass.

>Senpai

when will this meme end

>>164513668
When will your life end?

>>164513235
>implying grinding is hard

Ost and concept art in the pastebin aren't working

>>164513237
Interesting, I suppose even without knowing that I already contradicted myself, since I knew Koshi-Tagawa disappeared on rotation 4, changing a connection of two floors I thought were non-rotating.

I suppose I'll note down that Wakaba isn't connected to Yatsuo on rotation 4.

On the brightside this doesn't negatively affect me as I can farm bosses.

Okay friends, asking for a little advice. I killed Crowley (1 slowmungus and 1 stingshroom, was expecting it to be a lot harder) What do I do to get ready for 31+? I feel like I never have enough SP to upgrade anything, and I'm not sure where I should be grinding either for more, or for alternatives.

Should I just stop climbing and raid for a while? If so, is it possible to get evershrooms in large quantities at this point?

>>164513668

The entire game is memes. It should have been obvious from the beginning.

>>164511295
I honestly don't remember how I unlocked Yatsuo. I did it under some other rotation.

>>164513574
Yeah. I get it. If I got jack shit from an entire DAY of gaming for anything i'd be pissed the fuck off.

>>164513376
No ultra-pure iron there, only chest.

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THE SECRET OF MY SUCCESS

>Farming Candle wolf.
>Run into OH GOD FUCK OFF dude who invaded me with twin golden Motor Psychos.
>The grate is unlocked, but I have not opened it
>Fucker swings his stupid motor psycho right as I hit the escalator.

"Another player has attacked, your attack has failed."

is this a bug or are people really raiding and failing against this guy that captured my fighter for 30 minutes?

>>164514482
Someone's got a cheeseeeeee defenseeeeee

So tired of that crap.

>>164514006
I wanted to finish hard puncher to 5star, and to make bowling ball to 4star +4. Thats it. Thats the only thing i wanted to do. Fuck my fucking life

>>164514537

Is there any way to directly 1v1 another player?

I got a sticker that says it reveals treasure on the map or some shit. I don't even know what that means.

>>164514670
Basically god mode

>>164514482
The rescue function of the TDM is bugged. It's not clearing names off of the list so hundreds of people are attempting to attack the same people. As a result nobody can attack that person anymore if the first attempt to rescue the fighter fails.

>>164514050
Nakasaki probably does have ultra-pure iron.

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>>164514817
mfw greedy scrubs rank 10 try to get past my rapier burning iron army

>>164514537
I mean desu my defense is pretty cheese. It's 3 tier 5 defenders and 2 tier 5 shooters with nailguns.

The guy lost a ton of equipment and used a ton of shrooms.

>>164514751

I don't get it.

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>>164510150
Different anon but
>Make a Skill Master for the first time, four star
>Travel through 11-13 again with him
>Find the pitbull shotgun I was missing and finally get one piece of the Sengoku Set

>>164514920

Rank 10? As in, level 10 fighters?

>>164515173
Just use it and look at your map

>>164515045
I find in general a Glinty Magnum E, the 2* gun can take down any defense, given enough bullets. The stagger means I can wait for your guys to charge me, then start firing at the last second. Your guys are blown back so much by six shots I can reload and roll, start again.

Sure, sometimes I run out of bullets, but it tends to work.

>>164514817
guess I'll just give it 24 hours and ransom if it doesn't sort itself out.

>>164514920
All I need are bullets.

Is attacker better than shooter when it comes to gun damage?

>>164515370
might take awhile dude

my dudes have anti projectile armors

What class did Knight anon find the set on? Still missing the hat

>>164515471
You want a cheese defense, get someone with a porkchopper. Fuck those things.

You're taking down a defense in the train depot room. You're taking down the fighters with a 2* magnum (+4). All of a sudden, you see the last guy for the train room. He's got a pork chopper. No big deal, I'll just... fuck, I missed my shot. I'm hit!

But poison weapons cut through your health, you start to panic. You try to flee. BUT YOU'RE CURRENTLY POISONED SO YOU HAVE TO PUKE

DEAD.

>>164515501
Shooter was what eventually got it for him.

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it's not snail day for another day for another 47 hours

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>>164515676
I think I got hit by a pork chopper last week.

>>164515301
the defenders have like 20000 health

>>164514612
Best you can do is raid them and hope you steal one of their guys. Stunning seems to happen more if you daze your opponent but dont gore kill them.

>>164515928
This happened to me last time, but the snail crawled out of the wall and fell to the floor

>>164515676
Just wear that poison to health sticker. I give my defenders +40% HP and armor, daze resist and poison negate. Only thing that gets through now is brainshroom spammers.

>>164516332
>is brainshroom spammers.
yeah and people who use that dont often attack much considering they still have to gather said shrooms

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>Figure that for all the bullshit it takes to get through the gates in Fukuiki that it must have a pretty good reward, or maybe a tuber magazine
>Nope, just a silver chest and some red chests
>All I get is gold and a motorcross helm

>>164516510
Or they just sent their expeditioners out to gather assloads at a time. You can easily get 10+ shrooms an hour plus whatever you collect yourself. And then you just shroom 2 enemies at once to conserve your supply. Brainshrooms are easy to come by and OP as fuck for TDM, and unlike most other shrooms there's no real counter to them.

I have the materials to upgrade my killer wrestler armor to +2 but was thinking it wasn't worth it because it has negative slash resistance. Should I wait for something else or is it still pretty good?
I have the agamemnon armor but I don't like the look as much & I cant find sengoku for the life of me.

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>>164516589
Devs really didn't put any thought into how to actually reward honest to goodness effort. The quest rewards are a blatant example of this. Nearly impossible challenges or shit that would take the better part of the day give 1 death metal. Fuck that.

>>164516850
at that point you're better off just exploring the tower then bothering with TDM

the pay offs are barely worth it even if diamond

>>164516027
Yeah, but once the armor breaks I'm doing 1500 per shot, somehow. So break the armor with a kamas, then go with the magnum to finish it off.

>>164508654
It's likely nobody will get perfect stamps for a long time. It's very difficult unless you're just naturally gifted at timing games and can handle the pressure of running 10 minutes to a 3 second minigame and getting those tight timings perfect.

I want to hold hands with Uncle Death

>>164517060
That's what I've decided. I just have 2 defenders now set up with 3000 defense each to keep shitters at bay. But even then it costs almost 60k kill coins to re equip them each if they get captured. Then I can at least hover around 1300 points and make it back to gold easily for when a war rolls around.

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The true Let It Die starts here

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>>164518059
>preparing to go diamond for the next war

Hurry the fuck up, Florida.

>>164518059
I dunno if the only way to kill people is to goretastic them with brain shrooms

I dont think goretastic ever lets people get captured

Is it normal to encounter lv1 haters that basically one hit kills you on the lower floors (think i was on the second floor) after defeating the floor 10 boss.

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>>164518224
321go
*silence*
>good

>>164518308

Did they have weapons? Is twinking a Hater even possible?

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>>164518328

...23 resets on Crowley's area and counting...

Are there any materials I can just fucking toss out at grade 5? Chest is full to bursting with shit I don't think I'll need now.

>>164518275
Goretastic guarantees you wont capture the defender. But if they're in the dazed state and you just kill them normally, without a goretastic, it seems to knock them out more often than not.

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>stamp machine on floor 30
>hit 3 perfects, 1 OK
>MISS!
>machine blows up and takes my hopes and dreams with it
If you told me these things were designed by Satan I would not hesitate to believe you.

>>164519063
You can probably toss anything that isn't special company metal and tuber drops. The rest can be farmed for in leisure especially if you're at grade 5.

>>164518781
Nope, hand to hand did over 200pt of damage per hit. but i have encountered some haters with sniper rifles and shotguns on the lower floors (1-10) and its frustrating as fuck trying to level up new characters and earn kill coins

>>164519359
>frustrating as fuck trying to level up new characters and earn kill coins
If you need to farm KC, do it on higher floors. Level up new fighters with golden animals.

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does anyone know where I can find the pic of tower of barbs at night? It's used when at games page where u check achievements and shit like that

how do i break open the honeycomb?

>>164519582
you cant

>>164519656
maybe we can throw it down near a reverse tuber when he is gonna do his hug of death?

>>164519656
oh no

>2017 update
>Faster loading times
>New enemies
>New floors/stamps
>New mushrooms
>More content for the Death metro thing
>New jackals(?)
>Higher rank cap(Even more stars?)
>More difficulty/fun
Who here is hyped as fuck!

>>164520242
>Faster loading times
I NEEED THIS

>>164520242

A better movement style would be cool. Imagine climbing the walls and ceilings to drop down and suplex someone.

My marathon runner just stops working randomly

>>164520242
>february

Game will be dead by then

>>164520361
Are you hungry? That hurts stamina

>>164520484
You right

>>164511847
just get a psycho and rage move his ass 4 times and he's dead. nothing else is needed.

>>164520471
nah i just finished the game today, and im all in shitlord, just gonna keep upgrading shit and exploring the rest of 31-41

>>164519554
And how do I get golden animals? I have already done the quest that had them as rewards

>>164513298
I already wrote porn for you cucks. I can only do so much.

Godamn this game is good at frustrating you when you die.

>oh look a faggot hunter (full 5star armor, fire machete, cleaver)
I didn't really feel like dealing with that, so I brainshroom'd him. It bounces off his chest, falls right at his feet, explodes, and proceeds to do nothing. This kind of surprises me and even though I probably could've dodged this I eat a machete combo, lighting me on fire and doing most my health bar.

Since I decided to just brainshroom I hadn't equipped stuff to actually deal with this, so I just use 30 bullets from my KAMAS and light him on fire with an almost broken machete. None of his armor breaks somehow (literally never failed before this). So you know, I guess I'll just use my one remaining weapon to kill him, a half broken Katana. I slowly chop most his health down, last hit coming up, oh look L2 goes straight through his chest and does nothing, and he chops me with the chopper, doing all my remaining health! And of course, groggying me so the lifeshroom doesn't work.

I do not understand why the Katana L2 just fucking goes through shit sometimes. It should be the most reliable move the thing has.

>>164511420
Where did you get that info, anon?

>>164521096
One option is waiting for Okusa to be in rotation so you can send expiditions there and get shitloads of snails.

>>164513123
i know right, what the fuck is that

>>164521209
Bullshit hunters from the devs drives me insane, especially because most people get the plan. You send naked level 1 collectors out. They are no threat to me. I don't kill them. You get your materials.

This keeps happening in games, where devs want peoples to be assholes to each other, while the victims of this assholery tend to pay them with microbuys. Thankfully there are communities, like this one, where people are like "No, fuck you. I'm not going to take a little bit more SPL and fuck this guy's character up. Maybe he'll kill me anyway, but I have no idea what's going on. Maybe he's cornered and has no chance of winning with my character throwing haymakers"

>>164522436
you either have brain shrooms or rape weapons like the pork chopper to deal with them, although ive been dunked on by the thunder bowler dev hater a few times, shit sucks

>The only way to get MILK blacks is by grinding chests
>Half of the late game shit needs it
reeve
who the fuck thought this was ok

also is it confirmed mushroom nerfs, or its just hearsay, it seems like stacking mushrooms is intentional

>>164522637
hopefully they add another gold chest that only has milk black on a rotation, that would fix it right?

>>164522637
It's so stupid it feels like an oversight, like tgeybmeant to add in another way and the chest was just a place holder until they could.

>>164522637
most things can work in late game

what the fuck are you talking about

>>164522698
Mushroom nerfs have never been confirmed, we just think they have to considering how many microbuys they're not getting because of it.

Without shrooms, these bosses are quarter-eaters to insanity.

>>164522698
I don't think it's confirmed, just that it seems logical
In a game like this, it wouldn't make sense to add another 10 floors if the player could then just breeze through them with full invincibility

>>164522698
Mushroom stacking is obviously intentional, but I can't see them moving forward without nerfing guardshrooms in SOME fashion. I have so many from expeditions that when they add the next 10 floors I can probably play the entire area invulnerable.

>>164522637

Hey now. A fourth of the shit in the game requires it.

Also just use it for rapiers and then move on to shit that uses candle wolf.

>>164523270
they CAN nerf guardshrooms to be the stingshrooms of defence

>>164523081
i dunno i think mushrooms are your source of power in a sense, and besides im sure plenty of people bought the 5 dollar pack and the starter pack and how ever much more death metal you need to max out your storage

>>164523391
that and i wonder how many anons have an express pass, i have 11 taster passes, im gonna burn one and go full retard farming shit once i do

>>164523069
how about microbuys for the OP shrooms? it'd be lazy players an incentive to save time buy spending money on the shrooms needed to cheese bosses

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>>164523270
Essentially this; except replace milk with guardshrooms.

If someone's talented with photoshop they could turn the skeleton into Uncle Death and replace the milk with guardshrooms. But I don't know if the joke is worth that much effort unless you can do it really well.

>>164522436
Killing the hunter also doesnt change much.
Best I've gotten in an expedition so far was losing with a naked guy on okusa.
Got 10k+ and 3 snails.
Was with a striker, so low luck as well.
Think its just pure rng.

But then theres always some edgy dudebros "HUR DEAL WITH MUH RAPIERS" to say its "worth it"

I see dev raids for cali right now. Might need to hop in and out of the raid list to see them.

>try to do beat all bosses for fun
>didn't think it through quite right and had the wrong weapon equipped for taro and die during sumo
>decide to revive because it would suck to lose now
>game crashes
>ate my dm
nice game lolbabs

>>164523670
Yep, I just got one. 23k SPL and KC, fuck yes

>>164523664
2 failed expeditions are significantly better than 1 totally successful expedition. The key is to simply send out as many as possible. I don't send mine out naked, but I do send them without weapons.

If someone I'm hunting dies to my hunter when it had no weapon, they sort of deserve to die.

>>164521336
It's just speculation, not fact.

>>164523893
Hunters and haters can pick items from the ground, including weapons.
That's why I just send them completely naked

>>164523893
If they're not level one, they can still punch your shit. Usually thats not a problem but when the entire area around your character is covered in enemies and you have no AOE, plus poison or fire from screamers, that haymaker CAN end my life. This has happened, and it's frustrating. I don't mind if you send em naked but leveled, I just don't- I send level 1s for this reason.

>>164522751
My problem isn't that they don't work, or that you need them, it's that you can't even research the ability to buy the basic versions of weapons and armor past F20 without the stupid grind, which is horseshit
Why do they even give me the blueprints for all these weapons and armor sets if I get such a minuscule amount of the material to make them? Early on, you can try things out, because the material cost isn't so fucking prohibitive, which was nice. I get that the player obviously isn't supposed to upgrade everything, but considering that the shop timer creates a need to have multiple options upgraded, the fact that it takes such an absurd grind to get the material to upgrade even a single set of MILK armor is stupid

>>164524374
Iron is pretty good until Crowley though

even then you can make him a joke with snail shrooms

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>>164524319
>>164524331
I don't care. I don't want my hunters killed by screamers because they're naked. I'm not sending them to the 20s. I want the hunter to at least be able to occupy the screamers while the host can formulate a plan. All of my fighters are the loud shrieking woman anyway, so if they are in any way surprised by her they are deaf and deserve to lose.

>testing flame wand
>shoots a fire ball
>crap damage
>enemy on fire
>meh
>suddenly, all its armor explodes
Wow, its actually great! Its a very reliable and safe way to break armor.
Maybe too slow to raid, tho

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>>164525037
it also does this

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this is my 2nd one

>>164524763
You have a point. Clearing screamers helps.
I'll consider it when I send expeditions to high floors! Thanks for explaining your point

The shrieking woman is the one with the hair tied in a small ball behind her head?

>>164525281
im not sure why you want the primo one so much, or people do, you can get the standard with gold shrooms

>>164525409
mainly before you kill taro

>>164525409
Not everyone has beaten Gunkyama, and it's helpful the earlier you get it in the game regardless.

>>164525376
Yes. In the train car she's the third of eight, slick dark hair with the small bun-like-thing in the back. Not the ponytail.

>>164525492
that makes sense
>>164525506
well i wouldnt worry

>>164525506
i would not worry about it too much, i beat sumo guns by eating 10 guard shrooms in my lobby, then just beating his ass, the pork chopper is kind of a shit weapon against him, i see why anons perfer a katana

Senpais, what floor are Doctor Drill set bps at? I think these are the only 1-10 floor bps i lack.

Also on the stamp games, is any additional meaning to whether the press thing is blue or red, or it's simply to look better?

>>164525696
Buy em, or floor 8-9 were the best for drill BPs for me

>>164525696
blue is on a beat, red is on a half beat

> be watching random LID twitch stream
> streamer is on 27F, hasn't unlocked the elevator yet
> make one comment that he'll have to defeat both 26F bosses to unlock the gate
> banned from chat for a week for "backseat gaming"

Alright then

>>164525679
Pork Chopper is not meant to be the most damaging weapon. The key to using it properly is the utility of the poison and the timed knockdown. It will turn haters and hunters into useless fucks waiting to be murdered.

One of the most effective combos, and pretty cheap, is the nailgun and pork chopper. Pop a few rounds at a hunter every second or two to keep their guard up as you close the distance, then poison them with the chopper. As they're puking lance them with a fucking katana or whatever. With a good katana their armor is irrelevant and you don't even have to burn them.

>>164525679
I had... problems with him. Despite bringing a 5* Masamune blade, I just wasn't doing enough damage. I mean I only had slingshrooms because I had to pre eat every single mushroom (Seriously I hate that design decision- what makes you think that you can leave the ring without getting your shit wrecked? Assuming you aren't using shrooms i mean).

>>164525281
But what does it actually do?

>Defeat U-10 with a lot of effort
>A lot of effort
>Make it past, open up new shortcuts
>Go back to waiting room to gear up against the second mid boss
>can taste those sweet T5 fighters soon. So soon.
>Tower changes, shortcuts locked, have to fight U-10 again

God fucking DAMN it. I barely squeaked by the last time. Her tailblast is absolute fucking bullshit. What weapons should I consider for going round 2?

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>Need M.I.L.K. Black for my first grade-3 equipment
>Guess I gotta fight Goto
>Finally max out grade-4 striker
>Die fighting Goto
>Remember he actually drops Candle Wolf metal

>>164525129
Pretty useful, in my opinion.
Not a main dps tho

>>164525679
Oh no I've already beaten Gukyama. I was just explaining why someone would be excited for the decal.

>>164525834
What dat mean in terms of button presses, Senpai?

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>>164525281
>second one
>Held x1

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>>164526130
this

>>164526340
I have on attached to my current character you dunce

>>164526185
Invisshroom Scorpionshroom
Just hit her tail and watch her fall over ded.

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>>164526413
Why would you use a premium when you can just buy them with gold skillshrooms?!?!?

>>164526414
Problem last fight was half that I wasn't hitting her tail at all which is why I was asking for a good weapon. She kept fucking hopping around.

>>164526512
because I wouldnt lose it?

>>164526572
I can count on no hands how many fighters I've lost.

>>164526303
it means if you are following the beat of the music (tapping your knee to follow the tempo or just in your head), the blue button presses are on tempo so you can time them to the song to make life easier, while the red is at the halfway point

if you are musically illiterate it just means blue button presses are easier and red are harder

>>164526528
I just used porkchopper+4
Wide swing, perfect chop is a strong hitter, swing is about tail height and since you're invis shes just a pinata

>>164526627
then why not?

mushroom lady cucks me so much
no more mosquito or bulls please...

>>164526657
Well, now I just need to get the materials for a pork chopper... I keep seeing it talked about and the few times I've used one it does have a pretty nice moveset.

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>>164526690
Because they're shiny.

Also this was my second one, and I always had my first equipped. So you're full of poopoodoodoo.

>>164526740
If you want, you can hobo a better one. Just kill off dev haters until one drops a zombie chopper, 5star pork chopper, though the mats for making the +4 pork isn't that bad.

>>164526813
da fuck maaaaan

>>164526058
What is meant to be the most damaging weapon though? Pickaxe, Motor Psycho?

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>>164519563

>>164526931
Don't know. Katana is clearly the fan favorite, but I imagine if you're properly decal'd you can reach big damage with the snoober roober and 1 shot 1 kills.

>>164526345
So the only thing it's really good for is telling whether a gold chest has a metal in it on entering the floor?

>>164527085
Katana doesn't have any charge moves while the picaxe and the motorcycle do.

>>164527272
yeah so you can beeline to it, it saves alot of time

>>164527085
Welding gun too

>Just found Motor Cycle BP
Aw yea, gonna go farm Kawabe for the MILK, does this thing work on 26F JIN-DIE?

>>164526813
Well you must be mistaken and that's your third then, because if a decal is in use it won't count in the held number. You can easily test this.

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>>164527343
I forgot about those because I never use the pickaxe anymore. By the time I got it to the mastery level to do that I didn't bother using it much and then forgot about the weapon entirely because it skips and tier and nobody drops it past 9.

Maybe the day of the rake is upon us.

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>>164527065
also this for anyone who wanted it

>>164527343
It does have a giant damage rage attack though.

Pickaxe base damage just never gets that high, so I don't know how high damage you can get on the charge attack, not really sure of the scalars.

>>164527424
I am not mistaken. I double checked before I posted. Silly goosenheimer.

>>164527407
Unfortunately no. She's resistant to Blunt or some shit. The rage move on the thing fucked me over in her particular fight.

>>164527407
Yes but Jin Die is mostly weak to slash, not blunt
It works but it doesn't tear her up that badly

>>164527509
It's like 10x at full charge. Did 2500 damage on my 1* all rounder

>Trying to farm shit
>Making a Tier 4 fighter was a mistake because every level now has them.
Why can't you just give me decent opponents and not fucking max level enemies. No I don't have brainshrooms. I don't know where to consistently farm them.

>>164527717
Oh yeah I know, I love the pickaxe. I killed every boss up to Crowley with it on my first go. I wanted to take it all the way, but the durability - attack thing and being stuck at 11-20 damage levels for reasonable durability kinda killed it for me.

I've got it at +3 Murderous Rake since I don't use DOD Red for anything, but I mainly play Attacker so I haven't really had a chance to give it a spin. Might drag my Striker out and see how it does on a boss.

>>164527464
R1 on it is sick too. When you throw earth into the enemy eyes. It's basically a setup for a full charge myrder stroke with it.

What kind of resists do you guys? I'm sitting at -18% slash, +10% crush, +18% pierce.

Should I try and make it more balanced because slash seems to be the most threatening.

>>164527805
then use OTHER mushrooms you fuckign retarded piece of shit

>>164527928
Attack windows for a lot of bosses are small without the use of mushrooms. Goto would probably be easiest because you can set it up to be punished with a wind up.

>>164528441
Yeah on GOTO I waited for him to do his belly flop on 23, then punished that with the charge, then hit him while he was glowing red and the second charge killed him.

JIN-DIE is pretty much just random luck if she'll let you hit her with a charge unless you use a transparungus. Really do hate her ability to move extremely fast during anything she's doing.

I never tried it on U-10 but I assume the only thing you'd be able to land a charge punish on would be her flop, or the tail burrow.

COEN... Probably after he runs into a wall.

>>164528620
>Really do hate her ability to move extremely fast during anything she's doing.

I like that, shes the only non suicidal boss who doesnt want to die

as annoying as it is, it makes her better then the rest as bosses, bad when you actually wanna farm her

Does anything worthwhile take MILK green besides the knight armor

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>>164528906
I just like how she talks mad shit when you're hiding.

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>>164528906
I dunno, on the one hand I like that she isn't a pushover, but on the other she never has any actual openings. It's more the AI just not utilizing all its tools to avoid you, letting you get free damage.

Overall it ends up just kind of feeling random if you actually get to hurt her.

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farming Bullet metals is suffering

>Reach 21+
>Read "strikers and shooters are best for climbing"
>Die over and over to one-shots or stunlocks
>In desperation take defender out of raid defense to fetch the haters
>Survives everything
>God stamina
>Meh damage, but can work everything one at a time
>Successfully rescue 3 haters
>Don't die once
Soooo defender is pretty good in mid-high 20s.
Will it stay good in 31+?
Or do I absolutely need lots of damage to survive?
I'm still at grade 3, but have grade 4 available.

>>164529461
Meta-Koya (4 spawns) & Yoneguchi (Shop and fast load time). I go there whenever I need 5 or so bullet metal. The constant haters keep things interesting, but if you get the right layout for meta-koya you can avoid all of the haters and just farm bullet tubers if you're a pussy.

>>164529561
Defender will stay good all the way to 40, but if you want to actually FARM bosses you'll need to min/max the damage to make it faster so you can save mushrooms so you can farm more.

>>164527928
My DOD Red went to the pork chopper+ and the death burner.

>>164529597
I've got a first room 3x mekaroku-go spawn that I'm doing right now. Easy reset, just shit drop rate, and too poor to buy them right now. My paladin helm and katana both need them.

>>164529754
To beat bosses I just fo back to the waiting room to gear up anyways. Might as well switch classes.
Agreed, it'd be a pain to defeat bosses with a defender

>>164529821
The money thing is easily solved in Yoneguchi because the haters are there every single time you load in, so even if you're T3 or T4 you will be able to buy the 20k bullet metal while you're farming bullet tubers in meta-koya.

>>164527717
Well here's another problem I hadn't considered. +4 Murderous Rake takes 265 stamina, which is outside the bound either Striker or Attacker can reach, meaning you need to use a decal slot up just to use the damn thing.

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>>164530283
Even if they roll a perfect 25? That sucks.

>>164528183
I don't have any useful ones. I barely got to floor 25 and none of the explorations have gone past 20 for whatever reason.

>>164528114
pure defense value means more according to other anons

>>164530283
What about skillmaster? You'd want to use him for max damage anyway.

>>164530591
My skillmaster is 260 stamina with 23/23 and I think their growth is 2, so even there you're out of luck.

>>164530525
Go to Ikegara 1f and pick up the 5 free tear gas shrooms from frogs

>>164530786
Still, even if you use a slot for stamina discount you'll have 8 left.

>>164530543
What armor has the absolute highest?

>>164531142
>inb4 sengoku

>>164531142
I'm pretty sure it's a tie between a bunch of them. I'm personally bringing the aggie set to max.

>>164531142
Knight set and motorcross

>>164531187
I know it's not which is why I ask. I think Power Stomper is up there.

if you kill your own hater do they lose any unspent exp theyre holding?

>>164531339
My power stomper chest piece maxed out at 2025

Is there an easy way to farm SP?
I tried invasions but everyone either has fuck all or is like rank 50 and has 8 defenders and I suck at the pvp.

Alright I've verified that the pickaxe is garbage.

Oakshroom > Stingshroom > Crushroom
Striker with 185 Strength
Stamina Discount
Legendary Hero
Superhero
Superalloy
Barbarian

Full charge on GOTO on 36F did 10k with all of that. Second full charge (without the oakshroom) crit and did 13k.

>>164531142
i dont think it really matters? people say the magic number is 3000, but if your about 1400 or hell even close to 1000 it drastically reduces your damage taken

So what's the magic duration number for effective expeditions? I just sent out my 4 level 75's for 12 hours to 20+.. More or less?

>>164532028
use turtle shroom nail gun combo, you can raid anyone with that set up

>>164532267
shortest possible always

>>164532348
Hmmkay.

>>164532267
send out everyone 1 hour at a time for best results

>have to wait for weapons to refresh to buy them again.

newer player here.I just want to buy my gun 3 times c'mon game. this wouldn't be a problem if i could just hold ammo

>go kill my hater form 39f
>wind my way down, killing all enemies
>kill all 4 bosses
>go back home with only 1 guardshroom left
>even found a marioshroom to repair my shit
feels good

>>164532139
That's pretty awful considering I'm regularly hitting 36F Goto with a quick katana slash for like half that when I have stamina and treasure hunter decals on.

>>164532519
nigga go level a melee dude, and buy guns when you return from the tower, its much better that way

>>164532676
Yep, pretty sure Motor Psycho is the new hot shit for charge attacks past 20, I don't know why the final form of Pickaxe has damage more appropriate for 21-30 than 31-40. It tops out at like 631.

>>164532839
odd how the machete is still somewhat useful

>>164531643
yes

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>Beat 26's COEN yesterday and headed back to waiting room
>Equip up for JIN-DIE today
>Accidentally do the whole floor before realizing I missed a fork to the boss at the start of the map
>Huh, this looks small for a JIN-DIE arena
>COEN drops down
>Didn't realize they switched sides from left to right for whatever reason

Does the shotgun ever upgrade to useful tier?

>>164533014
Machete is a really weird weapon. Every other weapon I've found in its final form is subject to the retarded top-tier durability attack scaling. War Machete on the other hand seems to match 4star weapons like the spear or Katana for durability:attack scaling, even at zero durability it retains about half its attack.

It also gains enough attack to continue to be useful on everything 31-40 save for bosses due to their very high damage resistance.

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>>164532313
I dont think ive seen any turtles or mushrooms of that variety.
Also I have no idea where the nail gun is.
Sadly I am only at lv12 of the tower senpai and I am trying to get SP to upgrade my character limit, bank and stuff.

>>164533304
make more fighters and send them on expeditons, that will net you sp while you hunt haters and such

>>164533226
No but the knockdown effect is OK

>>164533226
If you use a slow weapon it gives an easy knockdown at higher mastery, but that's really it. It doesn't help fists can knock down themselves with the rage move, and the shotgun has an abysmal amount of ammo.

>>164533501
Ok cool.
Should I worry about defence?, since I am gathering a large amount of SP does that make me a target?

Oh, I just noticed.

GOTO can get distracted by any discarded item, not just mushrooms, though I haven't seen if he still does his whole 'running into the wall' bit after eating a random item.

Fuck, it's so hard to get people running floors 30 and up for expeditions. I get so many listings of people running lower floors, makes it a lot harder to get the shrooms I need

>>164533641
Unless you like the idea of TDM and experiencing the glory of stopping people from raiding you, fuck no.

You can have an optimal defense of 9 maxed defenders with the tankiest gear/decals and they would still lose to an upgraded nail gun. If people want to raid your shit they will raid it.

>>164533641
no it shouldnt, how much sp do you need?

>>164533930
>If people want to raid your shit they will raid it.
thank god most people dont at top tier

>>164533930
So defence is a joke?, damn it here I thought I was safe with my 5 defenders.
>>164533952
Currently im climbing that tower senpai so I cant remember, I think maybe 30k and I have 3k.
Wasted most of my SP upgrading everything I could and upgrading items.

>>164534058
Most at the top either go for dev raids or just stop playing, I've been offline for two weeks almost and checked it yesterday just to see, raided a whopping five times

>>164533870
I'm close to reaching the 30's but people keep sending fully decked out 4* hunters after me when I'm trying to advance. Just had a Double Cleaver-Saber fag dodge my last brainshroom. I hope I get a chance to revenge these assholes.

>>164534419
As it stands now you can raid anyone, no matter how beefy their defense is, with minimal investment at a 100% success rate. I don't know if it will get nerfed but TDM defense is in a bad place right now. There's almost no reason to bother with it over expeditions.

As another anon said earlier anyways, people will really only bother raiding you when you have a bunch of shit. I'm raided maybe once every 2-3 days at rank 70, and it's only when I leave to go ultra pure iron farming from the shop (usually bring 40k total for bullet metals too).

Which floor has the easiest farm of Bullet Tubers for Bullet Metal? I know you can buy them from the secret shop, but I'd rather farm them since I need several.

>>164534716
What floor are you up to? I find the 30s in general tend to have a lot of bullet tubers around, there is danger farming them but they drop decent dosh too

>>164534897
I've killed Taro, so I'm up to 40F; I'm just doing some post-game farming/crafting to kill time until the Feb. Patch. Atm I'm working on upgrading the Pork Chopper.

>>164534617
Ok then so ive been doing it wrong with beefing up my defences.
With expeditions should I target certain people or lowbies for an easy kill?

>Find gyaku-funsha on nutakoen
>Has all pieces of sengoku and barret punisher I didn't drop
>And did green
>Can farm haters easily on his rooms and the room before it
>Easily

>>164535198
kills are irrelevant to loot, they only give a tiny extra bit of SPL

https://youtu.be/8RoyL76Adj0

Anybody know the name of the cleaver-looking things being used in this video, and where I can find the bp for them?

>>164535271
So just expedition to anyone?
Is there a way to get more or is it just pure random?

>>164535384
Luck effects expeditions albeit small. Just send to highest possible floor unless you're looking for something specific like slowmungus/etc.

>>164535384
Luck stat increases the amount of drops. The luckiest classes are Lucky Star with Collector second, which works pretty well since people tend to have extra collectors for bank space

>>164535306
Ive seen that in the buyable thing, think its called the dev support kit or something, it had that cleaver on it.

>>164535306
Pork chopper, drops in 30+

Also that video, damn he got some shit damage

I just encountered my first cleaver saber hater. What the actual fuck. All my health in one """""combo"""""" including a grilled lifeshroom while in hoboscavenged grade-3 armor and I couldnt do jackshit.

>>164535701
gotta take those rapier haters seriously

use some resources, rage moves, shrooms

What does it mean when your country is in a fight with another country?
Recently I popped on and it said X is in a fight with Y.
Is this just so that they raid one another or something else?

>>164535801
After I got stabbed the first time and saw that damage that was my plan. Ya know, and soon as I stopped getting sta-oh I'm dead.

>>164535951
read the faq

tl;dr you get free shit if you participate (including DMs)

>>164535701
Parry them with iron.

Why can't I find any Knight BPs? I've been on 11-19 for 2 days now. I also only got 1 Sengoku BP.

Fucking hell. I get it it's a grind game but come on.

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>>164536418
i feel like i've read this post before

>>164536727
DEJA VU
I HAVE SEEN THIS POST BEFORE

>five enemies lined up in a narrow hallway with their backs turned
SUPLEX CITY BITCH

>>164533843
He will run into the wall on a lavashroom. Armor and weapons will heal him though.

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>have massive backlog
>buy ps4 anyway for christmas
>pick up some ps4 games to ad to the backlog
>end up just playing Let it Die constantly

Man fuck this game for killing my backlog

>>164536839
https://0x0.st/uy3.webm

>>164536928
>have over 600 games on steam
>not counting family share
>decide to play ps4
>look over the games from ps+ I've gained monthly
>some are pretty cool and ive been wanting to play
>decide to play let it die
>cant stop now
Welcome to my life

>>164536928
This is why I almost never buy games I want unless they're like 80-90% off

>>164536727
Well I guess alot of other anons want Knight and Sengoku I guess? I got the Knight chest from some hater not sure if it was 3 or 4 stars but it was all black with a huge golden sun on the back. And that shit looked really nice.

>>164536898
>Armor and weapons will heal him though.
Okay, the one time it happened, I was stupid and only then realized that it was a perfect opportunity to lure a hater into the boss room, and the hater seemed to have discarded their shotgun when it ran out of ammo.

I was able to damage GOTO enough where I didn't notice if any healing happened, but it was funny to see that he dropped the gun when I killed him.

>>164509381
Is there a reliable place to farm it? I've found it to be distressingly rare so far.

>>164537885
I get some when I send expeditions to okusa and 11-16
I'm sure there are better places to farm... I hope

opened probably 20 22F chest and only 1 Candle black metal... insanely unlucky or is this one rarer?

>>164537964
Thanks.

>>164538002
Why don't you just kill goto for cw black?
Id say you're lucky

>>164509381
It's starting to be my understanding that the game wants you to use Transparagus on Jin Die.

How hard it is to flank her, and her ability to stunlock+laser you sounds to me like "Use mushrooms, senpai"

>>164538397
She's the best place to use decoyshrooms too. Use them and she teleports close and looks at it curiously

>>164538397
>use mushrooms, senpai
That's the name of the game for every single boss F21+. Pretty sure boss attack/defense was designed in mind of you using things like Guardshrooms, Stingshrooms, etc etc

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So I just got 5 Golden Birds from my expedition and I'm pretty sure they came from Kohashi.

Coincidentally I actually have video of sending 5 of my 9 out, and confirmed 3 of them were going to Kohashi (other two were Akabadai and Haratsuka), as well as video of me taking the rewards out of the box, but I mash through it so fast I need to transfer the video over to the computer to actually watch it slowly to make sure the birds came from people going to Kohashi.

Might be Snail Farm on rotation 4.

whats the least tilting lobby music?

Is psn specially slow to anyone today?

>Looking for Hitler's long lost brother in side floors
>Get to a really dark floor with one long tunnel
>"Oh hey scratchtubers this should be some easy killcoins"
>Suddenly ten sanics activate warp drive
>Fuck
Also if whatever the fuck's name sells an equipment blueprint for a huge amount, is it any better than the regular variant? Ex: He sells a blueprint for 130,000 for a shit tier variant.