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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #412

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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #412

Isillia with Tits Edition

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.com2us.soccerspirits.normal2.freefull.google.global.android.common

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/soccer-spirits/id808137814?mt=8

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wNX2ME3E (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)
Friend list: http://ofo.jp/j/OgjO

The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Dec. 30th - Jan. 1st.
> Lucian, Z101 Raklet, Cow Demon Queen , Milky Way, Ravian, Metatron, Jiho

Jan. 6th - Jan. 8th.
> Victoria, Nerua, Sarmir, Leah, Damien, Choi, Felix

Current events:
Jess Rival Match: 12/18 - 01/01
Helena Rival Match: 12/25 - 01/08
Sue Boss Match: 1/1 - 1/15
Welcome to the Christmas Party! 12/22 - 01/06

More info can be found in-game

Previous Thread: >>164225236
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I love Uriel!
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>>164493461
i don't
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We need Jkun to come back!
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>>164493597
And you need to fuck off jcuck
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Isillia is my wife, my cute wife
I love her, I love to be her husband
We love each other, swore to love each other
Isillia my wife is the best, the cutest
Isillia my wife is so kind, and gracious, and pure
We'll be together forever, together as one
Isillia my wife, always there for me
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Reminder that Choi isn't a problem and you WWhiners should take a chill pill!
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>>164493717
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>>164493489

Yes
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>>164493717
>giving a shit about choi
The only thing that annoys the hell out of me is elaine and the entirety of ardor's backline.
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I miss my cute Enthia-chan so much. This stupid piece of shit VF cant do a shit, compared to a real attacker.
Should i power up ~20 stones and make second team just for her?
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>>164494081
Yes
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>>164493983
>ardor backline
>not ww backline
FUCK OFF ALREADY FALSEFLAGGERS YOU BROKEN SONS OF BITCHES ARE RUINING THE GAME
NERF WW CANCER NOW BB REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Hi Denk
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>>164494228
(´・ω・`)
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>>164494189
Ye, i think so too. On my way.
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Hi Jkun
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>>164494412
hey there
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>>164494317
How's it going cutie
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Good morning /ssg/ how are you doing this fine morning?!!!
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>>164494213

Ardor backline is obscene.

I borrowed Coh's Light team against pic related, after my own team half killed her.

In 45 minutes Latios best shot (active pass, active shot, after milky active on striker, with all skills and stones fully stacked) barely broke 500 damage on a crit.

Gaphyl tocuhed the ball once more and she was back at 100% health.

This match was giftwrapped for coh's team with an already dead midline and after 45 minutes and 12+ shots on net Angela ended the match at 100% health.
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>>164496283
Git gud
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>>164496283
>23% pen
Gee, I wonder why you lost.
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>>164496283
KEK That proves nothing
WW is still the most broken element in the whole game faggot, you're just a shitter trying to falseflag
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>>164496451

Coh's Uriel team would have won (it has Elaine and eventually starts doing damage). His latios team in this match was hopelessly outclassed. It was mathematically impossible for Latios to end that match before the clock ran out.
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>>164496587

Not my team. I didn't know Coh swithced off his good Uriel team in clubs.
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>>164496283
>SoB:increases critical damage by 0% with an attack

mmhmhmhmhmhmmhmhmh....
is this how it is supposed to work ?
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>>164496903
Angela has a skill that negates the effect of stacking stones
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>>164497034
but i thought that was presty ?!?!?!?!? :((((((((

oh good thing """""Balance""""" is coming

:^)
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What makes you think, bunch of faggots, that tomorrow balance is cumming?
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>>164496587
>getting enough pen on Latios to break Angela's pen resist
Not going to happen
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>>164496283
But you won with score?
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>>164498518
we are just circlejerking, nobody wants to play ArdorSpirits and prefers to sit ITT.
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WHY TRY TO BE FAST WHEN KEVING FUCKSS YOU UP
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>>164499090
Use Jeunese?
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>>164496283

Fuck. Followup match.

Next match with William with Meiran 50% crit buff active + meiran stack + Jibril active + Jiho vertical totem + William ace.

Williams 4th shot with all of the above was finally able to end that Angela. (Never took screenshot of 2nd shot but it was around 1000. First shot had the active pass).

I have never stacked so many offensive totems in a PVP match before. It took william with multiple pen totems plus several active attack buffs 4 fucking shots to finally kill that angela.
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>>164499090
Get yourself a Choi.
Outsped an IC Black Ivy on a Kevin+Durangela line. if they have Cynthia too on field you're probably just boned.
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>>164498681
>But you won with score?

Fuck no. His 3 shots with sharr >>> 12 or so latios shots of no damage.
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>>164499696
Latiosfags must suffer,
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>>164499350
Is that phag even good?
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>>164500002
>jewnose
>good
lol
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>>164499921
Only the retards that can't make their shit resist long enough
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>>164500002
Not anymore
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Is it because it's the first week of the season i find lots of 10-11k teams on silver?
Not like I care, I beat all of them, but in my times any bronze team could climb through this with relative ease
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>>164501086
Yeh, if you climb too fast it is harder.
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>>164501086
10k teams are standard for gold now. Dunno about silver.
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Galaxy League ranking rework when?
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>>164501549
my first match in Gold matched me a 12k ardor team
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>>164501654
>not 10k ww team
Lucky you
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>>164501654
>ardor team
Must be nice to be able to bully shitters. Meanwhile, thunder will always win mid and 2HKO your Angela or any GK by that matter or bully the whole opposing team's backline except WW.
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>>164501886
>>164501727
actually it's """"ardor"""" ft. lucid and alkyde frontline
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>>164501950
>ardor/dark
>not ww/dark
Git gud faggot, you're spoiled
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>people talk about Angela
>my first match in Gold IS against Angela
Just fuck my shit up nigga. Only good side is that it's a full Ardor backline so my meme striker can destroy it
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/ssg/ tournament when
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>>164502479
when you make it
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>>164502479
>implying bronzecucks will have the balls for this
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>>164502479
>/ssg/ tournament starts
>only people in it are a60855 and a bunch of jobbers
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>>164502717
top /ssg/s should be banned for this tournament
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>>164502747
and refunders
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>>164503092
but qtfruit is literally banned
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>9
you guys leave me no choice,

MY ELEMENT HAS IT WORSE THAN YOUR ELEMENT, YOUR ELEMENT IS CANCER PLAGUING THE GAME AND IS THE REASON OF ITS SLOW DEATH AND FOR THIS REASON YOUR ELEMENT DESERVES TO BE NERFED AND BULLIED TO DEATH.
APOLOGIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>164502479
>/ssg/ tournament when

Will the winner get to decided who is bestcat once and for all?
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>>164504790
only element that deserves buff is thunder, their only good are their strikers and the rest sucks
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>>164504841
no.
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Nerf Isillia plese, my monodark cant deal with her.
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>>164505070
Too bad Isillia already got buffed >>164493006
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>>164505420
Its unofficial buff, so doesnt matter :^)
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Patch notes when? I need new content to complain about.
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>>164506054
12 hrs
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>>164504802
why should someone decide it when is obvious kiki is bestcat
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>>164506180
Thats cheetos though
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>>164506054
They usually put em out when I go to bed
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>>164506301
Only base Cheetos
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>>164506180
>>164506301
>>164506391

pfffttt

bestcat coming through
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New catgirl when
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>>164507014
we gave you COW girl.
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why couldn't they make kevin a loli fucking idiots
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>>164506180
>>164506301
>>164506391
>>164506605

>all this plebtaste

make space for bestcatgirl (male)
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>>164508049
Who is the ghost cute
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>>164508028
Dorky and awkward Angela lusting for loli Kevin ojou-sama. Doujins when
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>>164508028
>caring about this type of shit when it doesn't change stats or skills in any way
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BETS?
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>>164509010
Complete oblitiration of Lolibutts' forces
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>Lolibutts is full of thunderbabies
Wew, no wonder they're so shit
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>>164509010
inb4 Pandregon cockblock 3 12k+ of Snowball
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>>164509010
About the only way Snowball can win is with a 4k+ TA advantage
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>>164509010
ez win for Snowball
>wwcuck with broken teams against the worst element, thunder
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>>164508478
you know when they say its a woman trapped inside a man's body ?
well is the same but is trapped inside a furry this time,

no idea,the EE may tell us more when it comes
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>>164509010
>I'm not on the Lolibutts side
EZ win for Snowball
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>>164508478
He's uses water magic so it's probably some kind of summon.
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>>164508478
Its his stand

Likely a play on Beauty and the Beast.
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Why the FUCK do they even make skins that don't match the character's voice at all?
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This fucking disparity
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what other games do you play ssg
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>>164512260
>Rank 133

What shitty club are you in
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>>164509968
Damn, now I want to penetrate Patricio
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>>164512260
>didn't censor club's name on top
is this a new meme
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>>164512353
>Soft

kek
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>>164510806
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hameru account or EA01 Luka and Jean account if I want to try out the game before I decide if I want to go full autism in rerolling?
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>enemy jin has 50DR
>i use my elaine to balance out this disgusting broken ww backline
>active says it reduces 30%
>it is reduced to 40%
WHY THE FUCK BROKEN SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164514518
It's no use, Elainebro. WWniggers have the most borken shit
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>no new rivals in AGES
Why BB? I loved Hyun and Pei Lin, give me more cuties!
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>>164514518
>active says it reduces 30%
maybe actually try to read
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>>164514789
>increases DI
>implying it isn't the same as reducing DR
Fuck off WWBROKENSONOFABITCH NERFS WHEN
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>>164493006
>FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wNX2ME3E (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)
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>>164515285
I think you need to go back to school first before trying to be funny
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>>164515414
>wwniggers defending their bullshit
I hope you all die from the incoming nerfs
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>>164515414
It's the same, stupid WWnigger.
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>>164515478
>thinks I'm defending anything and not just calling you an idiot
go socialize more while you're back in school so you understand implications better
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>>164515920
>g-go back to school
See? WWniggers are mindless fuckers who can't even defend their gigantic cancerous bullshit
Please killyourselves
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>>164514457
anyone?
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>>164516086
Hamerus.
>brown
>cutie
>egyptian
>godly thighs
>divine midriff
What's there not to like?
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>>164516298
Her skills.
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>>164516445
Wait for EE to judge.
Every EEless player is pretty much useless, and considering how BB made Angela from literally who to most broken goalie in existance only with an EE, there may be some surprises in case the player is ardor
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>>164516298
>brown
Flush it.
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>>164516298
well there are two 5 stars on the other account and although hameru is definitely cuter, rarity makes or break cute, no clue if she's rare or a town bike.

other than that, I also have no clue which account would be easier to progress and get more rolls with early on, gambling is half the fun.
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>>164516813
She's rare, unlike Luka who literally everybody has, and Jean who mos people either have and don't use, or had and dumped.
Go with her my man, if you like gambling then go for the cutie and not for the slutty
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Why are attackers so useless?
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>>164517339
Because leaders do everything they do but better
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>>164516987
I also have a valkia on that account, no clue if she's good but I guess another rare roll in the same color is not that bad.
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>>164517401
Leaders are pussies though.
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>>164517339
>>164517401

15CAR isn't enough to make them useful.
This proves reflex is still bullshit

>>164517425
Valkia is one of the best 4* in the game. She'll always be useful for PVE and for early players she's very strong along with Eden. They're honorific 5* in that regard.
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>>164517609
sounds pretty good to me.
dark is the best color anyways.
all 4 stars are a "lock" on their profile I guess, are 3 stars worth keeping or are they basically trash?
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>>164517724
Trash unfortunately, but for early game they're kinda useful.
Replace them without fear when you get a better 4* or higher
Also, never EVER get rid of a 5* you don't have a dupe of.
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>>164517961
>Also, never EVER get rid of a 5* you don't have a dupe of.
well, you never get rid of any rare pull in any mobage if you're not 100% sure what you're doing.

4 stars probably are keepers too if they're not dupes right?
got shairan, maggie, jayce, and yuna.
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Reminder of best 4*:

>Mira, Eden, Jay the fire Goblin and Valkia
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>>164518196
Not really, but only get rid of them when you get a superior star to replace without a detriment to your team. Not every 5* is good, and sometimes an invested 4* may be better.

If you have enough space in your box, sure, keep them, but you can use them for Special Training when you don't use them.
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>>164518998
ok, fair enough, I'll keep them until I have enough better cards to replace them then.
how often can I do a pull and how long does it take me to get to rank 30 if I just put all my dark shit in a team and play the story mode now?

free 5 star seems like a good point to decide on whether I like the game or not.
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>>164519483
Starters have some bonus each day, some are crystals if i remember correctly.
I don't really remember, but it isn't that hard specially for starters who get lots of bonus. Maybe a couple of days just playing normally
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>>164518786
I like Blue Dragon as well
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>>164520269
People like Mariel. That means nothing
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>>164517339
Roina is good though
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>>164519913
I'm also currently on a "new" server, dunno if there're some goodies.

so I'll just use this and do the story mode for a while? sounds good to me.
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>>164520428
reroll
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>>164520672
I said I would if I end up liking the game.
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>>164520428
Souns good to me too.
>>164520672
He said he wants to try out the game before rerolling.
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>>164493461
Even though Im late

Me Too!
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>>164520824
>not a new ip
Guess there's only one Urielfag shitposting as mane, and this proves it
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>>164520769
Won't like it with that team
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>>164520940
Did the same.
My best player at the time was Nevantos.
Now I'm in galaxy league, even though I never rerolled due to being a lazy fuck
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>>164520940
current plan is to play to rank 30, roll everything I get till then and then decide whether it's worth it to reroll hundreds of times for something I want.

why shouldn't I like the game till then?
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>>164521191
Because he's a shitposter
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>>164521191
it might be nice to get atleast one or two 5 stars but i doesn't really matter. i did the same thing.
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Want to use Evylin CM
Should I dump Neraizel or use her in frontline?
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>>164520920
Nah, I've been posting for awhile earlier.
Didn't feel like responding when the thread started since I was half-asleep.
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>>164521315
there is a 5 star in my team, the other account I mentioned had two....

I even have a hive account I use, rerolling still looks like a bother, I'd rather just try the game before rerolling 500 times.
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>>164521389
Yeah use her as special training material while your at it.
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>>164520428
yea rerolling is for losers desu. play till level 30 for the free legendary at least to get an idea of what direction to go with your team.
the problem is that at low rank, you can breeze through story mode to the point of boredom. the real fun is in the pvp when you have a workable team
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Please let this patch be good. I can't stand watching /ssg/ suffer any longer.
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>>164521659
Dude

No one cares what the cry babies in this thread complain about. Everyone else plays the game with minimal to no posting here because its a shithole.
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>>164521737
I do shitpost because it's fun to watch people falling for some retard shit I say
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>>164521970
Take (You)r (You), (You) are cute
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>>164521970
my shitposting brother.
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>>164522162
Not as cute as you bae
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>>164521617
not gonna lie, I think rerolling is like grinding in an rpg for that really rare drop, you need those low chances to really feel good when you finally get something.

ss wouldn't be my first mobage, of course the actual endgame is completely different from the first few months when the developers want to hook the players, deep down everyone here enjoys pulling shit for months if they get rewarded with that one rare as fuck card,
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>>164522403
>deep down everyone here enjoys pulling shit for months if they get rewarded with that one rare as fuck card,
True
I remember that beautiful feel I got when I got a red gleam in the night sky and saw a legend pod. It was the fucking best feeling
Too bad it was my THIRD FUCKING KHIREL AND I'M STILL MAD AS FUCK ABOUT IT
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>>164522534
>still havent gotten my second legend

s-soon boys
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>>164517339
duke is fine
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>>164522534
>KHIREL
man, dunno if he's good but his art is straight up garbage, sorry.
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>>164496283
but /ssg/ told me monolight was cancer.
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>>164522849
>listening to anything /ssg/ says and not making your own judgements

This is why you'll never git gud
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how good are 6 stars and are they worth rerolling for?
all 6* strikers aren't cute, why would they do this?
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>>164522994
>Not believing in /ssg/
We're one here to help you. Don't you trust us?
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>>164522849
>>164523418
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>>164522787
Now this is quality shitposting
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PATCH NOTE IN HOW MANY HOURS?
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>>164524385
do you think the art is good?
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WW
NERFS
FUCKING
WHEEEEEN REEEEEE
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>>164524530
Never :^) We are the pinnacle of balance!
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>tfw all this time ww has been broken all the time and has falseflagged so much about angela, victoria, elaine, william and choi people are starting to believe they're broken
How betrayed do you feel?
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hamerus acc fag here, got mikael with my first random pull, quick search sounds like he's absolute garbage though.
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>>164525051
barely usable because of his shit-tier reflex, he ends up just giving away the ball
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>>164525051
yeah he's only decent in a specific setup
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>>164525051
Absolute garbage for end game
He's an excellent backline penetrator in the early game.
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>>164525126
>>164525159
>>164525184
too fucking bad, if he at least was a cute girl I'd be great.
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>>164524412
7hrs
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>>164526013
WHY CAN'T THEY RELEASE IT FUCKING NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164526969
They need 2 weeks to balance WW bullshit, and even after a year they can't even do that
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hamerus fag here again, clinched another roll got metatron, seems super fucking rare, is she useful?
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>BI+Dynames
WH-WHEN IS MY TURN YOU STUPID FUCKS???!?!!
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>>164527192
She's the most cancerous legend since she started existed.
Is she your 30?
If not, keep that account unless your 30 legend is Shu, then reroll and use that account only if you don't get anything good when you get tired of rerrolling
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>>164527192
You just won the game
EXPLODE
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>>164527326
no I'm like 10-11 right now, got her right after mikael while clearing more story mode stuff and playing crusader kings desu.
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>>164527528
Then you won the game basically.
She can be the only legend in your team, off color, and still make you win games.
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>>164527192
very good, put her in the middle of the middle field
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>tfw told hamerusfag to keep that account
>he got meta
I feel good about myself today.
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>>164527192
btw don't forget to lock her and your important cards so you can't sell them accidently or use them as training material
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>>164527609
is she really that rare? I mean she looks good, but not that impressive.

I just hope she'll ease my way to rank 30, I'll probably reroll after that anyways, so far I just push random shit and it works.
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>>164527915
she's literally one of the best units in the game. congrats.
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>>164527915
Believe me, she is absolute bullshit even after being nerfed.
You can't see it now, but there's a reason she's in at least 90% of the teams in galaxy
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>>164527982
>>164528061
kinda funny because meta in pad is a running joke because of how bad she is.

so is this account a definite keeper or is there anything better I could roll?
as I said, if I like the game I don't mind doing hundreds of rerolls.
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Mega Blizzard nerfs fucking when?
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I love Linmay!
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>>164528279
>pad's meta used to be the best
>she's old and busted because the powercreep is too strong
Hopefully this meta will have the same fate. It's not even funny anymore how much she can change the game
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>>164528294
hopefully soon
tired of seeing those bullshit ohko teams with 0 counterplay
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>>164528387
pad's meta used to be an acceptable farming lead, good sub on the right team, by now she's worse than farmable shit and still probably the equivalent of a 5 star in SS, hilarious how gungho tends to ignore her for like 3 years now.
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>>164528061
She's considered game-breaking, yet she's actually being used less than Victoria and Elaine.

Balance patch when?
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>>164528837
after they fix the utility striker nerfs in the patch coming up
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All reroll tier lists aside, if you (experienced SS player I guess) could reroll into one single card you choose, which one would it be?
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>>164528837
>a legend is less used than regular players
I wonder why
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>>164529130
besides cute, that's subjective (to an extent), purely ability-wise.
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>>164528837
Not only is this incorrect. She is a legend vs scoutable players.
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>>164529195
Anybody who's anybody has Meta by now.
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>>164530429
Considering the way you worded your post I'm sure you don't have meta
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>>164530429
Yeah, only sub platinum shitters don't have Meta.
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>>164530910
>no meta
>still reached galaxy
Only shitters need meta
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>>164529130
for esports? easily jibril
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>>164530994
>lying to impress us
It's okay, I don't think any less of you for not having meta
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So when this "balancing" patch that will happen tomorrow?
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>>164531856
theres no balance
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>>164531856
There is no balance patch you retard

go watch the last stream
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>>164531856
There's no patch game is closing down.
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>>164531856
Utility striker nerfs, there isn't enough emphasis currently on Sharr and William.
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>>164531902
>>164531976
Stop believing everything Saber says

95% sure they're doing the balance patch this week
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I lost all motivation to play after getting a 11 player team with +160 max superb lvl 70 unique and 3 rare stones +15 each one... it is timr to leave? Can I be free frond grinding?
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>>164532087
Keep deluding yourself
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>>164532087
I can't wait to read the shitstorm that will occur tomorrow once everyone sees the massive balancing changes.
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>>164532087
They are going to do balance in every patch but there is no big balance patch
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>>164532484
I'll screenshot this to laugh at it in 10 hours
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>>164532991
They'll start by buffing her this patch, right?
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>>164533965
stinky
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>>164533965
Her last buff was this skin.
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>>164533965
stinky
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>he doesn't know about the balance changes
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nighty night /ssg/ may your waifu be buffed and not nerfed
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>crit damage stone
>also increases DI
>DR stones
>there's no stone that also increase CR or decrease crit damage
Defend this bullshit balance
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I just started this game today and rolled an osiris

I know you shouldn't roll rem besides godfest but holy shit i love bleach and i havent used any stones yet. Is it a super bad idea?
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>>164535528
Blue defense stones.
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>>164535579
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>>164535587
>defense
>the one gk stat that no one cares about
A shit
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>>164534448
y-your my waifu though
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>>164535579
What did he mean by this?
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>>164535579
>/padg/
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>10
>no boobies
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>>164535579
theres a bleach collab in PAD?
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Saber let me have a sneak peak of the patch notes!

Suck it, losers!
>>
Thread so dead I can see Mami
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>>164518786
>forgetting Pei Lin
>>
Time to merge
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Couple more hours until Patch notes,

Until then, here's some hats
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Really doubt the patch will amount to anything. But if we are lucky there will be at least one rework of an old character. Or a real nerf to a cancer
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>>164546982
>there is a rework
>It's for Cassiel
>Angry community for 2 weeks

>>164546709
I don't remember if Patch notes is like in 1 hour or 4-5 hours
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>>164546982
>But if we are lucky there will be at least one rework of an old character. Or a real nerf to a cancer

I am worried the patch will be "utility stiker patch from last update will actually be applied now and not break the game. The end"
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>>164546982
Uriel will get buffed and everyone will rejoice.
>>
Nari rework pls BB.
>>
Noticed how the devs are introducing more characters who do stuff just with an action. Like how Gaphyl heals by blocking. Or just by existing, like how Aiolos heals the team passively without even having to act.

Seems we're heading towards more and more characters that do a bunch of shit with no opportunity cost
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>>164548472

Gaphyl double block heal with a slowed down line is absolute hell.
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>>164548601
Especially since Kevin gives Gaphyl more action bar after each time.
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>>164548472
Shu's going to be like Gaphyl after tomorrow
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>>164549889
I'd be ok with it if they made Shu that annoying and nerfed Gaphyl. At least Shu is a legend and it would make those who got him happy for once.
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https://withhive.com/help/notice_view/19822
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>Serestia buffs
good patch
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>>164550998
>Angela Recall
>>
Serestia goes under striker now?
>>
Darkball, arise.
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>>164550998
>new thunder is another passer

Fucking dammit
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>>164551692
That is Meta's job, Serestia is prime monodark CM now
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>>164551753
is actually a goalkeeper with forward pass
>>
what the fuck
>>
So who are you recalling Angela for, /ssg/?
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Is this balancing supposed to be a joke
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>>164552114
GLAYDE
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>>164552114
Robin

:^)
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tfw no GK now, is Lucian better than Isillia?
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>Paralyzes the enemy team
>Changed to: Decreases the MAX HP by 20% and Reflex by 20% of the enemy team

Holy Shit
>>
they have severely overtuned serestia, baltheon, and shu
not to mention ardor got another fucking healer in the form of micky
and thunder got it's first healer that is not hideous fucking FREYJA and SHE IS BEHIND A PAYWALL AND WON'T BE SCOUTABLE FOR MORE THAN 9 MONTHS
i am so mad
this is fucking diabolical
>>
>Shu is actually being buffed
What a time to be alive
>>
where is grandma anon ?
shu buff happened

is like a mini attacker metatron now
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I really hope that 100% pass effect skill is for EE baltheon too and not just Base and E
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>>164552348
I know right anon
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>alice nerf

go and buy that serestia, ravianfags

:^)
>>
Jesus fucking Christ those Serestia buffs
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>>164552531
My Icicle Alice is even better now, thanks Bball
>>
So, Serestia meta now?
>>
Anybody who uses Serestia deserves to be Kirin'd.
I hope the ball never leaves your backline and you lose by timeout.
>>
i quit
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>>164552695
What if you use Kirin and Serestia?
>>
WHAT ABOUT ELAINE
AND SHARR
AND SASUKE
AND GAYFEEL
AND KEVIN
AND VICTORIA
>>
>STILL no Uriel buffs
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>>164552795
>Kirin+Serestia+Presty

BB WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE
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>>164552853
Is it Crocell's time to shine yet?
>>
Why is nobody talking about Ernesto
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>>164550998
Angela RECALL
Is she that bad now?
Who is going to jump to another GK?
>>
>tfw have benched Serestia
Time for fun.
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>>164553040
she is not that bad, but she lost ALL of her pen resist, in short she is like the other gks now, think of a robin who can actually heal wihtout active
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>>164552821
>Nerfing William
He is fine for a Legend, Sharr on the other hand...
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>no genderbend Leventor in patch notes

He's going to be behind the $110 paywall as well isn't he?
>>
Jibril is looking pretty attractive with all of these paralyzes in the game huh?
>>
>some whales are getting Serestia already from the dimension shop
Kek
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>>164553198
it's just so innovative..
building an entirely new meta for money!! 8D
bb you're genius
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>>164550998
>switched away from Angela recently to Presty
>now recall for Angela
Uhh.

So basically I can get any hypermaxed keeper now? And none is useful for me?

Fucking meh. The new recall system is so bad. I'd rather just spend 320 ds to transfer her stats to a unit I can actually use
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>>164493006
>>164493461
>>164494081
>>164506605
>>164528305
Fucking gross kys

>>164494412
Hi anon
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>>164553125
The pen resist is why she was used in the first place, losing it means she loses her usefulness.
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>making the opponents unable to move with 100%ab is not ok

>making the opponents unable to move with 0speed is a-ok

did i get this right ?
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>>164553527
If that was true then they wouldn't have capped speed debuffs to 50%. Devs just don't know what the fuck they're doing and are trying to squeeze more money out of this ded gaem.
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>new thunder gk
>forward pass to skip kirin bs
>increases the effects of duran buffs

guys its there,
its angela
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>>164554041
>no EE
>paywall
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>>164554041
I wonder if that passive works with active buffs too.
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>alice nerf
>no recall
Give me back my littres you cunts
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>Glayde with Isillia's totem
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>We are well aware of the issues with the Spirit recovering or decreasing skills that some players feature. These skills will be our next focus.
So, Virgil will finally get what he deserves, huh?
>>
Can you get the new thunder gk with angela recall?
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>>164554665
I-It's a 2-staged skill right?
>>
>Glayde with smug shaman's totem
MUH
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>>164554887
Classic only. Unless BB is retarded enough to change it so you can recall classic for new star.
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>>164555227
>BB
>not being jews
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>>164554595
>Boss units
>Recall
Lol fuck you
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>>164553280
No the new recall system is balanced. Presty is going to get nerfed next when her EE comes out with no recall.
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>>164552275
Freya is an amazing unit you cuck. Also you must be new all the season 2 units were behind a paywall for longer than that.
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>>164554595
>>164555775
>legend/boss players getting a recall
How fucking new are you?
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Is Shu good now?
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>>164555956
Learn to read
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Ardorballfags what do? Recall or not?
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>>164556291
The cycle continues

He was mediocre and became pve god and then got nerfed back to mediocre and now he's PvP and PvE god.

>>164556536
>Ardorballfags what do? Recall or not?
Angela is still good. She now has better synergy with Jiho. Shu also just got buffed to ridiculous but levels.
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>>164552348
>>>164552348
that one guy that said he was going to keep refunding if shu didn't get a buff

Better keep his end of the bargain
>>
Is Beth CM better than Sammy CM ??
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>>164552954
Already got mine Mspu'd
Just need a fts and I'm set
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Very happy my Balth is getting buffed lads

Good times, my dear Griff-chan now has another 30% crit, that should help a lot.
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Now I can openly admit that i'm only-two-legends shitter instead of just one.
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>angela is now Raklet 3.0
>now bandwaggoners can fuck off
>literally kills ardor girls' chance at a decent backline
Its a bitter sweet.
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this is important, we need to decide
who is best goalkeeper now with angela nerf ?

>no presty/jin/glayde
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>>164557739
Angela is still a very strong keeper, esp with Duran. Just less bonkers.
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>>164557780
>Who should I pick for Angela Recall?
Say it clearly
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>>164556958
Oh hey that was me
I don't know how to feel anymore, I thought I had another year or so
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>>164557780
Gladye doesn't even sound that good. Angela or BT are still the best normal goalies.
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So people are saying shu is good now, but where do you even put him?

He doesnt get a lot of attacks off in midline to activate his global ability, and he doesnt have any totems to justify him in the backline

What am I missing besides khirel syndrome he doesnt even have CAR FUCKING CHRIST
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>>164558073
i actually use lucian, was expecting no balance, and was planning to switch to angela if really no balance happened,now id like to hear other options
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>Get CRIT rate on my goalie from super teamwork
>Get team work max out and then reset
>Now my goalie has pass effect

This is stupid. Cupid should reroll the stat and not just add teamwork. Or if not cupid then one of the other fairies.
>>
Everyone's paralyzed all the time, nice game BB.
>>
New serestia global debuffs procs then she got knocked off, right?
So i should put her at CM with EBM then? I mean, with batalion she gonna be too hard to kill for her skills, meanwhile with ebm she gonna provide good lane debuff and can be easly killed in same time. Or i understand everything wrong?
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>snail is worth using
>can exchange angela for bt
good patch
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>>164558219
>Gladye doesn't even sound that good

How so? She looks pretty insane in a backline with Nikita and Asslad. Not to mention her active counters Kirin.

I'm already considering buying her over Felix if I don't draw her next week.
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They don't even care about PvP, they only nerfed Angela so she can't do the last few CoT stages anymore so now we get less free shit.
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>>164558272
the only place to put him is in place of khirel in backline,
what's good is that we have a choice now,

khirel is genrally more offensive, shu is more defensive/heal bs

>heals whole team and give atb on attack
>should keep "expand strategy" so additional heal and atb to his line
>100% chance to act twice and heal himself by 50% each time with any action
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>>164558757
5-6: Silla ace with invested Angela will still be fine
5-7: Still fine, people also use Jin here
5-8: no gk needed
5-9: Who knows, never used angela here, ST Jin and ST Raklet work though
5-10: no gk needed
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>>164558692
You're implying kirin is some sort of issue.

Also three passers in the backline.
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So How is my team considering the patch notes lads?
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>>164558902
>5-6 with Silla ace
How do you even do it with Silla ace? It's RNG enough with Duke or Erica ace.

And 5-4 is going to be impossible without having both Jibril and Ass.
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>>164559073
>Lucian x Erica
>Gaphyl x Elaine
4/11
Below average Wedding game
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>>164559073
no jiho/10
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>>164559135
Duke friend left of meiran

This is with a +0 VIT, 6* Angela. She'd still survive one solo shot when >80% HP post-nerf I think, if not, need to get 40 VIT or 7* her or both.
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>>164559368
>Jiho
She'd literally weaken my backline
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>>164558975
kirin is just an obvious example of how she can shine,

the forward pass means she is a more "offensive gk", she also heals herself on pass, and with 3 passers if each one manage to pass to each other she should be back to full health.

buffing the passives may even mean she get additional element dr from magnus etc,

and she has no EE yet, not saying she is broken, but she has the potential to become the next broken gk
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>>164559414
>Both Jiho and Khiriel
Well yeah. People without both of those need damage aces.
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>>164559135
And this is 5-4 with an Askeladd friend (swap linmay and meta position btw)

You could probably replace Yuri with Kevin for the chain and Sharr would still one shot after Balth buffs I think

Never had much of an issue surviving 5-4 even after Latios active change
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>>164559073
>shu buffed to be a combination of gaphyl and metatron
>shu + gaphyl in backline

how do you kill this thing ? is technically a ohko only or bust i think
>>
>more units with paralyze
>speed modifiers still not nerfed
>atb recover/destroy still not 0%/100%
Nice, BB. Just fucking kill your devs.
>>
>>164559648
>Urielfags are mad
ayy
Enjoy the utility nerf
>>
>>164559597
What stones do you have on your Angela? Double dark hp, Magma?
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>>164559782
why would urielfags care about the utility nerfs?
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>>164559823
PoME, Ardor DR, double dark HP
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>tfw was unsure whether to buy Asslad to get back into CoD top 10 or focus on my Dark pvp team
>Serestia buffs
>Alice rekt
Well, that kinda helps decide stuff. BB don't seem to care much about pve anyway.
Shame Jin is still shitty, especially when Shu and Balth got broken.
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>>164560118
Jin is really good now though, what are you smoking
>>
>>164556979
pls respond
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>>164560305
Okay I overreacted a bit. Jin is not amazing, and all he got was a 15% Def buff. He is nothing special nowadays, but I suppose any non-Angela/Presty GK is the same.
He dies very easily to competent strikers. He won't ever get OHKO, but if you want survival then Duran is a must I suppose. And I refuse to buy Duran because he's a fugly turd.
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>>164560610
Probably not
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>>164560637
Jin with Duran and Magnus lasts a very long time, unless you're facing a very powerful and blinged out to the max William or Sharr.

No, he does not die "very easily". And as soon as Miho gets an EE, mono WW backlines will be absolutely horrendously powerful.
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>>164560637
His active block also got increased to 70% dr, which is pretty insane. Coupled with utility striker nerfs this could rocket him into being relevant again.
>>
Time to falseflag raid reddit in hope everyone recalls Angela for BT or something
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>>164559530
The forward pass means she will likely ohko. She has no built in HP too. 35% heal is nice but she needs to take a hit and then survive.

She needs her EE
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>>164561284
Assuming actives are boosted on her too she'll be better on rainbow than thunder. Units like Ustiel and Mariel can be a consideration because they have such powerful actives and decent totems.

Units like Silk, Duran, and Kevin go without saying.
>>
Just woke up.
So basically Shu recovers 300% spirit with an attack?
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>>164561707
3000% spirit
also fuckload of heal and atb to his line
and minimum heal and atb to the team
>>
>All these paralyze
WW/Dark is one step away from being the next cancer.
>>
>>164561925

>one step away
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>>164561925
>being this new
They already are. Kirin in a WW/dark setup with Serestia/Meta/Alice already cripples anything to submission and with Alice nerfs and Serestia buffs Presty will shine more in crippling the enemy team. BB should commit suicide with this massive incompetence.

Its obvious they don't actually play their own game.
>>
>balth buffs
Can we have Nari buffs now? Just add 30% atk power to rainbow shift.
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>>164560637
Spoken like someone who doesn't use Jin or fights bronze level Jins. This buff is great.
>>
>put Serestia in mid on the side
>now every time they pen through the entire enemy team takes a plague explosion to the face and their front can't use combo after the penetrator passes the ball
>if the penetrator doesn't lose the ball straight up
Perfect synergy with my Presty desu. Gotta get her now
>>
>utility strikers nerf
>The change has been delayed to end of january as this requires a version update at Google Play/Apple App Store.

could this mean we are gonna get a big patch/balance at end of january ??!??!?!?
>>
* As Angela’s Passive Skills received a value decrease of over 30%, she will be subject for Recall. (Based on clause 2-1 of the Recall Policy)
> Period: Jan. 11th 11pm – Jan. 17th 11pm PST > Recall Subject: Angela (Ardor)
※ The Recall Icon will be shown on the upper-right of the main menu during the recall period.

* As Angela’s Passive Skills received a value decrease of over 30%, she will be subject for Recall. (Based on clause 2-1 of the Recall Policy)
> Period: Jan. 11th 11pm – Jan. 17th 11pm PST > Recall Subject: Angela (Ardor)
※ The Recall Icon will be shown on the upper-right of the main menu during the recall period.

* As Angela’s Passive Skills received a value decrease of over 30%, she will be subject for Recall. (Based on clause 2-1 of the Recall Policy)
> Period: Jan. 11th 11pm – Jan. 17th 11pm PST > Recall Subject: Angela (Ardor)
※ The Recall Icon will be shown on the upper-right of the main menu during the recall period.

* As Angela’s Passive Skills received a value decrease of over 30%, she will be subject for Recall. (Based on clause 2-1 of the Recall Policy)
> Period: Jan. 11th 11pm – Jan. 17th 11pm PST > Recall Subject: Angela (Ardor)
※ The Recall Icon will be shown on the upper-right of the main menu during the recall period.

* As Angela’s Passive Skills received a value decrease of over 30%, she will be subject for Recall. (Based on clause 2-1 of the Recall Policy)
> Period: Jan. 11th 11pm – Jan. 17th 11pm PST > Recall Subject: Angela (Ardor)
※ The Recall Icon will be shown on the upper-right of the main menu during the recall period.

* As Angela’s Passive Skills received a value decrease of over 30%, she will be subject for Recall. (Based on clause 2-1 of the Recall Policy)
> Period: Jan. 11th 11pm – Jan. 17th 11pm PST > Recall Subject: Angela (Ardor)
※ The Recall Icon will be shown on the upper-right of the main menu during the recall period.
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>>164562959
Did you really need to be this big of a faggot?
>>
>>164559782
Uh, why would I be mad anon?
>>
Super happy Angela is finally getting nerfed. Feels amazing, it's such a drag to face her every other match and have her drag games out because her backline is dead but she simply refuses to die. It's not fun, simple as that. Games are supposed to be fun.

The only ones who are angry are bandwagoners and being a bandwagoner is kys tier.

The only bad thing is she wasn't nerfed enough, she's still far and away the best 5* GK. That shows how fucking stupid she is if anything. A heavy nerf and she's still the best
>>
Fuck this update. Unnecessary Baltheon and Serestia buffs.
>Balth/Lucid combo now hitting even higher if it isn't against a Light GK
>Serestia TEAMWIDE paralysis and there is also Presty for striker paralysis in monodark
>And people said ww Kirin team were cancer
BB doing their best so people bandwagon to monoDark and spend their money to get Presty. And that Shu buff was stupid, only made him invincible to PvE but he will still give away the ball
>>
Serratia buff is fucking retarded. Dark is the new ardor is seems.
>>
>>164564806
Yeah, that teamwide paralysis is absolute bullshit.
Hopefully they'll realize that when everyone complains after this patch.
>>
>>164564806
Monodark isnt viable.
t. monolight.
>>
>>164564806
>>164564859
That's not the worse, she will deal TEAMWIDE damage too when KOd. At least it's not max hp but it is still bullshit
>>
Paralysis is bullshit in general. It should be deleted together with Magnus and Sharr class and the current BB devs.
>>
>>164564882
>t. monodark falseflagger
>>
>no buffs for Lev or Bell

THIS IS UNFAIR
>>
>>164564957
>Magnus class removed
>Ravian in monodark reign supreme against anything not Light
>Leventor and William become even better and OHKO easier
>>
>>164564957
They should rework it as a whole or give it a REAL % chance like Crocell's instead of 100%
>>
>>164564889
Fucking disgusting. Legends should definitely be limited now to 1 per team (2 if extra included) with the use of cost.
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>>164565014
Buffs? He dont need any.
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>>164565021
The only reason why they are overbuffed is this bullshit balancing that went ultra downhill because of Magnus and Sharr.

Don't forget the stupid DR/atk self buffs that multiply a stat a gizillion times during an action. Who are also the current devs idea.

They should just fucking commit seppuku alfuckingready.
>>
>>164565014
>Bell is as unstoppable as Choi
Bell should be more unstoppable than Choi.
>>
>>164565073
Post stones pls
>>
BANDWAGONNER HAS SPOTTED

aRE YOU READY?
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>>164565073

>55 speed
>580 reflex

Without an active pass, how will he ever hold the ball long enough to take a shot?
>>
>>164565582
>Its a gook too
>>
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Here the DarkBall buffs. I would thank if someone dropped this in reddit
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>>164565517
His nickname is Axialyris.
>>
>>164564316
>The only bad thing is she wasn't nerfed enough

This.

Losing the pen resist nerf was a good start but if they are already doing a recall then why not one additional kick in the teeth to make the shitters let go? Too many people will hold on to her after this.
>>
>>164564316
We are waiting for Kei, Ronald and Irre buffs!
Nerf isillia to death
>>
>>164565774
Holy Bullshit
When's the emergency patch for this nonsense
Serestia needs to be gutted as soon as this shit goes live
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>>164565916
Imagine this, you KO Serestia your TEAM takes 15% remaining hp dmg + 20% remaining hp, loses 15% AB and loses 50% spirit! Totally balanced!

Not to mention Balth + Shura should make anything crit and Serestia debuffs 60% hp of the enemy GK.
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>>164565774
but anon, there is permanent 20% HP debuff. No stacking.
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>>164566073
Sure, they didn't put the timer on that too. For me it is common sense to imagine they only changed the skill effects.

Regardless of that, taking double teamwide dmg is absurd enough
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>>164566234
I dont think BB hit this levels of retardness.
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>>164566346
After Presty, anything is possible.
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>>164566365
This, any paralysis over 1.5mins is bullshit.
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>>164565779
Danke, been wanting to build him for a while
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>>164565774
I'm pretty sure some anons pointed out that cancer will rotate on each element so this is not surprising to me.

I guess it's dark's turn now.
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>>164566469
But that's overkill compared to Angela buffs, specially now with Ace Burst.
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if we think it was ardor before, and now is dark,
i guess next is light etc
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>>164566562
Light is already strong, Jibril fucks up everything.
>you pen frontline Jibril, as the time doesn't pass when you penetrate the entire mid has absurd DR and CR

inb4 a retard complain they lose to thunder
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>>164566562
Lightball has its era at the beginning before healing pvp nerf.
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>it's light vs dark again, just like early 2015
ebin
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is this game fun if I don't really care about pvp?
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>>164566921
Nah, pvp is the main fun.
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>>164566921
>fun
Its not FUN after you get pass mid/highmid game content. Might as well look for some other FUN game to play.
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>>164566921
Well, kinda. CoD and CoT can be very time consuming and it is PvE, PvP still gives lots of d-stone so you probably should try do it anyway
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>>164566948
too bad, doesn't sound like it's a game to play f2p on the side then.
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Aiolos buffs when, literally worst legend.
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>>164567142
Bell takes the cake for this now that Shu is buffed
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>>164567142
Only in away games.
Legends should be limited to two per deck now that every legend is insane and an all legend team is becoming more and more viable.
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>>164566921
That's like asking if you'll enjoy an FPS game with single player.

I'm not much of an esportsfag on SS but pvp is where most of the meat are.
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>>164567491
Implying PvP isn't just another form of PvE. People only do it to get the rewards anyway and then stop, just like CoD and CoT.
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>>164567559
aSixThousandFourteen doesnt
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>>164565774
>Alice CA'ing anyone without her 35% reflex debuff and with her mediocre reflex stat
So much for that.

Also, Balth only got 10% action speed, 20% crit. WOW SURE IS GAMEBREAKING BUFF IN HERE. And his pass is the same, only 20% stronger when using active, that's it.
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>wake up
>no Vonchi buffs
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>>164567674
so should (You), especially if you do not put a free win team on your PvP slot.

>inb4 lel I get 500gold per away win then play Arena
All that can't match the gold you can win by winning half your tournaments in Galaxy.
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In all the excitement of angela being nerfed I forgot about Ernesto EE. He was supposed to be WW's equivalent of Elaine but he falls way short.

Ernesto:
>Active: 40% attack buff for single target (striker)
>15/30/45% crit damage stack
>10/20/40% reflex stack
>30% receiving pass totem
>25% crit rate totem
>20% speed totem
>40% DR when attacked
>25% speed buff when attacked (5 min)

Elaine:
>Active: 30% DI active & 20% defense reduction
>25/50% crit rate stack
>25/50% attack stack
>15/30/45 attack stack
>15/30/45 pass stack
>25% DR when attacked
>100% reflex buff when attacked

Ernesto really needed a better active skill, and what the fuck does speed do when you are attacked?
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>>164567808
They didn't really make it clear in the notes, but judging by the skill shuffles on Baltheon, it's assumed that Baltheon EE is also getting Obliterate (100% pass effect) which is insane for OHKO potential in CoD and it can also be convenient for CoD scoring (e.g. not having to use Kalkrish ace because Balth would already satisfy pass req).

Same discrepancy with Serestia's skillset, she should also be getting Dark Eden on EE.
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pls bb give me balth in scouts
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>angela is nerfed
>but shu becomes broken
>and choi is untouched
And people still deny ardorball?
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>>164568262
>milky increases almost as much attack AND CRIT
ARDORLIHHYBALL CONFIRMES
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>>164568712
>Shu, broken
>not Balth and Serestia
>Dark falseflagging starting earlier
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what's currently the best way to reroll?
password change on a dummy hive account seems to be locked at 3 times a day...
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>>164569032
Uh, you just log-in and log-out. They added the logoff button months ago
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>>164569032
Use a proxy, it's IP based.

>>164568262
Ernesto will give like 60% attack, dude. Also, he only gives 30% reflexes on full stacks.
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>>164569197
so I can play as a guest, link it to my hive account after the rolls, log out and play as a guest again?
that sounds less complicated than the whole password changing stuff.
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>>164569450

Yea the reflex thing was a typo.

The notes didn't say what his active will end up as. 60% would be ok I guess, but it is still less reliable than a GK debuff (Ernesto active buff vanishes if striker is killed).
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Someone explain to me how a teamwide paralyze that last multiple minutes is okay? Ptesty is too much even and she only does it to one person.
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>>164568360
>it's assumed that Baltheon EE is also getting Obliterate (100% pass effect)

Definitely. The selfish skills from Schizophrenia all got moved to his other skills. There is no way they would let him keep both 40% reflex buffs.

His 40% self-crit rate buff is now covered by the 30% crit totem.

The 40% pass effect becomes 100% as Obliterate

The 40% reflexes are now moved to Guardians Will.

So really he is only losing 10% self crit rate from the loss of schizophrenia. Someone else on his frontline should have a crit totem too so he will still have enough crit rate to kill-steal.
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>>164570723
He's +10% aspd +20% crit when counting his totem, pass effect is the same w/ aura. Only loss is a secondary passer will no longer get the 30% pass effect, but it's more than worth it to give the striker 30% crit that's always on
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>>164570927
Try reading the changes before you make replies.
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>>164571220
I did read them, I even wrote it up in notepad and compared the changes to be sure I was reading it correctly
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>>164570927
>+20% crit when counting his totem

Where are you getting that 20% from?

He is losing his 40% selfish crit but gaining 30% always on totem. He personally loses 10% crit rate is what I was saying.

The striker definitely comes out ahead with the 30% crit totem, though. That is the important part.
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>>164571345
I must have read it wrong then, fuck

Well that really sucks then, crit on non-strikers is so precious because of all the fucking crit debuffs
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>>164571294
No I mean try actually reading.
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>>164571294
>I even wrote it up in notepad and compared the changes to be sure I was reading it correctly

The patch notes left out the changes to Schizophrenia (the evovled form of Internal Equilibrium).

Internal Equilibrium -> Schizophrenia -> Obliterate
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>>164571505
It's pretty obvious the patch notes meant the first skill. It's not like he can have 4 passive skills can he?
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>>164571505

Unless it goes:
>Internal Equilibrium -> Obliterate ->Schizophrenia

But then that means he is getting two different 40% crit buffs, 70% self crit rate, and no change in pass

The patch notes are pretty vague. He will be a 3k+ reflex monster if that is the case.
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>>164569579
yea like that
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So I guess the Leventor skin has changed from when it was datamined as a 700/70 skin, huh?
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Mono WW is going to be such a terror with these Jin buffs

Not looking forward to this...
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>>164572459
Not really, his active was good enough to tank and it will do the same job. The extra defense might not make THAT much of a difference, had he gotten free pen resist or crit dmg resist then it would be a big change.
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>>164572626
Well he's already hard to beat and now will be even more so since a blocked shot will do no damage essentially
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Reddit seems pretty butthurt over the alice thing.

>P.S.: I pity those peasants that had any trouble against her

I was honestly expecting to see more tears shed over how unfair the Angela nerf was.
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>>164572865
It's because everyone knew Angela was busted and needed nerfs except for delusional ardorfags
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>>164572669
>already hard to beat
Only if you are thunder, even my Sam that has shit-tier pen can win reasonable well unless it's Duran + Jin
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>>164572865
Lolifags are the worst along thunder players.
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>>164572865
I really doubt that he never gets one shot. There's no reason a well built Nera wouldn't go straight through that meta.
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>yfw Choi players start complaining about Serestia and BB nerf her instead of nerfing both
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Answer to DQ, wanna go shopping. Same time hear from tv, ducks go shopping.
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>>164573139

I'm thinking he is high diamond or something if he believed the things he wrote.
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Alright this bullshit stack every global slow and stack the frontline with slows/high reflex+celus OHKO team is fucking retarded

Literally no fucking counterplay
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>>164573459
Go fast and hit hard.
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>>164573591
>Go fast
Can't cause of Mega Blizzard bitch Cynthia in GK and Black Ivy in the front with Choi ace
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>>164573459

I met a few of those. Meiran ace pretty much solves all those problems.

>Wow they stacked a lot of slow debuffs. Now my striker only has 106 action speed.
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>>164573724
My nera still hovers over 100 speed with those debuffs, you have to unleash the sonic force anon.
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With these upcoming Angela Nerf's is she still worth using ???
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So, after the patch hits:

Light was a meme and is dead.
Ardor had its hour of glory and is dead.
WW is literally indestructible by Thunder now so Thunder is almost dead but at least it can bully Light and Ardor.
WW is a solid 2nd best color now.
Darkball is too op now. Welcome to the era of darkball.
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>>164574307
She's still alright, the removal of her pen resist hurts alot.
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I'm kinda new and seemed like I could pull off a Pre decent mono red team but now idk
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>>164574307
She obviously is.
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>>164574412
The new hot stuff is mono dark with their legendaries
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Ever since this op mono color ace skill came out it feels so not worth splashing in other colors is this true ?
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>>164574561
you tell me
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>>164574561
Off color team are mostly great with Duran, Choi and now Balth.
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>>164574412

Ardor is still overpowered. They just had the best GK in the game slightly nerfed. She is still the best non-legend GK.
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>>164574561
if is just 1-2 offcolor units, yes
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>>164573770
>>164573846
Fucking WWfags, check your speed privilege
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>>164574928
Now wait for them to say 100 speed isn't much.
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>>164574928
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>>164573846
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>>164574360
Light is still strong as fuck with Jibril
Ardor is still strong as fuck with everything
WW is still good/better
Dark is the new Ardorball
Thunder has a goalie that needs an EE to be really useful.
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Cool doing 700 draws and getting Serestia not so bad now. Is she gonna be a good CM?
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I dont spend money on the game but my account is cursed with the goalie life I have Angela BT isllia kai zebroi king jin and presty and I have a few decent ww cards and a lot of good red cards what to I do goalie wise
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>>164575810
use presty and go ww/dark
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>>164575810
Use presty as GK with Jin as Totem and go ww/dark
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>>164575810

Jin is still a good bodyguard if not used as a GK. Presty is the new hotness but if facing a light team you can just swap her out for Jin.
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>>164575783
Yeah
>teamwide dmg, ab reduction and spirit reduction when KOd
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>>164575783
can't see her being better than metatron as cm,
the 15%hp damage is not good enough compared to team heal+atb

perhaps a
vic - meta - serestia mid
is gonna be the next cancer
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>>164576385
>the 15%hp damage is not good enough compared to team heal+atb
so the -50% spirit to the enemy team and -15% ab isn't good?
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>>164576385
Its 20% HP
>>164576435
Yes its great actually. But Metatron having her bullshit teamwide revive beats her out since she doesn't need to be dead to use that.
>>
>5 males on my team
did i fuck up
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>>164577386
Fuck off. Go play kancolle
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>>164577386
You are fine anon, as long they are e-sports.
>>
Hopefully we get a better event next patch
>>
Teamwide gravity is way more powerful than teamwide heal.

From the old ravian and jewnose days we know that gravity is there to exploit the AI and not necessarily do damage. Losing just 20% of their HP could be the tipping point to make certain players turn passive. A second 20% hit would fuck most players AI completely.

This is especially bad if your backline is lacking attackers. After a few hits of gravity the leaders/defenders/assists will all stop trying to steal and most players will be too afraid to try and break out. They just keep passing down the line because the AI thinks they are too wounded to attack.
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How is Serestia okay?

They need a fucking quality checker that actually plays this fucking game.

Her active is bullshit but this

>Changed to: When becoming unable to move, deals 20% of the remaining HP as damage, and decreases the Action Bar by 15% and Spirit by 50% of the enemy team.
>When becoming unable to move, deals 20% of the remaining HP as damage
>of the remaining HP

Is lunacy. They nerfed the shit out of Jury because of this. Serestia now does it to the entire team.

What the fuck
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>>164577386
r u a qt girl?
>>
>monodark relies on fucking AI with teamwide dmg
>monolight relies on fucking AI with teamwide heal
ebin, ebin
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I have so much of my resources in red tho IDK if I should go we/dark feels like a waste just hyper maxed my shar have a Elaine Victoria Nari and Lia and a DW that I'm not using should I Scout sage
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>>164577749
Just bitch about it in the survey after the next stream like people did with angela
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>>164577876
It took months worth of bitching on that for them to finally nerf Angela.
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>>164578034
at least they are somewhat active now in balaning
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>>164576435

Metatron's revive is far more important than just about anything else she provide. The other stuff is just icing on the cake.
>>
How does beatrice do so much fucking damage ? Everyone always talks like she's garbage

I use Presty btw
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>>164578290
>Everyone always talks like she's garbage
Because shitters with bad stones.
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>>164578290
She isn't garbage

Its just Kirin and Shanti exist in the same element.

She is like Hiro. They both need buffs somewhat.
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>scroll reddit
>thunderbabies now complain about Bell buffs.
Can they even shut the fuck up?
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>>164578365
nope
>>
The Angela change was honestly not that big of a deal. It was only 15% pen resist, that's nothing.
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>>164578682
lol
>>
Why did you lie to be about a Zibroi buff/rework, /ssg/?
What did I ever do to deserve your bullying?
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>>164578682
15% pen resist that would stack with 25% of Dense Magma, she only had 40% pen resist, only that. Sad to see people wanting her nerfed.

:^)
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>>164578815
you didn't buy presty

:^)
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>>164578815
see
>>164522994
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>>164578365
Stop falseflagging darkfag
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Now all we need is Ravian's inevitable buff to return her gravity down to teamwide max hp damage and dark dominance will be cemented!
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>>164578290
>I use Presty btw

She is vulnerable to spike damage and OHKO, and that is all beatrice was ever good at.
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>>164579294
>Ravian gets no buff
>Lab rat rabian become pvp prize of next season
>she gets EE
>Becomes pre-nerf(s) Ravian

NO PLS, STOP IT BEFORE IS TOO LATE
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>>164579294
Try better.
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>>164579630
>Loli's first novel
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>>164579294
Who need that little slut if you have hot brand new dark striker and his fukboi chairman?
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Shu generates 440% spirit with 1 attack
@
Serestia asks 1.5 bar for her active

Can you feel this?
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>>164579961
Anyone who's not a massive homo, I suppose.
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>>164580030
Yeah, Shu doesn't fuck everyone teamwide.
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>>164580440
omfg

shu buff when ?
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Why am I not allowed to recall my Alice for Aslan now that you've gutted her, BB?
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>>164580030
Where the fuck is everyone getting the idea that he's going to generate that much spirit from. It's 40% spirit flat, not 40% per team member. You should know by now that these Koreans can't into English.
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>>164552151
can you even get a new player through recall?
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>>164581514
Only if the recall subject is a new unit also.
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>>164580607
Because it was actually a stealth buff
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feels good to be ahead of the meta a year later
>>
Rate me.
>>
sausagefest/10
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>>164582460
too few hp totem for Kei/10
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Choi nerfs when?
Elaine gutted when?
Victoria's destruction when?
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>>164582620
Did I heard ... SAUSAGE FEST?
>>
>playing a club match
>enemy durangela still at full hp after two clubmates with comparable TA defeated
Fun seeing 114 dmg crit from leventor, next shot was 206 dmg crit

The nerf is a step in the right direction, but she will still be a total bitch to kill, people crying about Angela nerfs are exactly what's wrong with this game
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>>164582460
one shot
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>>164582863
How did anyone think that this movie was a good idea
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>>164583829
Fuck off, Leventor.
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>>164584094
Nope, every striker ever
>>
>tfw your striker is just a shitty Kei
At least I've got the better skin.
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>>164584408
>striker
I meant gk, obviously.
>>
How does this sound for ww/dark
Balth/Nera/Shanti
Meiran/Serestia/VF
Jin/Duran/Presty/Meta/Silk
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>>164583797
>next club member is one with Lucid striker
>solo shot against Angela does 114 damage
oh I'm laughing

It's like a highlight reel of exactly why she's getting nerfed, I get it

Next one 59 dmg crit

HOW LOW CAN THE DAMAGE GO? LETS FIND OUT ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF BALANCE WEEKLY

WOW BALTH ACTIVE INTO SOLO SHOT DID 700 FUCKING DAMAGE, THAT WOULD BE LIKE 4000 AGAINST A NORMAL GOALIE

1000 DAMAGE SOLO SHOT OH SHIT NOW ANGELAS LOW HP COMES INTO PLAY, SHES BALANCED BECAUSE LOW HP, RIBBIT TOLD ME SO

NO WAIT NEXT SOLO SHOT IS 400 DAMAGE CRIT LOL

NAH THATS ALL SHE WROTE, NOT ENOUGH FOTM CANCERS IN OUR CLUB LADS
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>>164584664
>lucid
>114
That's a shit lucid buddy, a strong lucid fires off damage like a fucking railgun.
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>>164584664
>tfw club member doesn't even use a striker class unit to win his club matches
>>
>>164584664

Lucid needs extremely high pen to get any real damage through against Angela. A634567 rerolled all of his stones to provide 100% pen.

Without pen that 4400+ dribble means fuck all.
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>>164585234
Jerk him off more
>>
i currently use Lucian, i find lucian a bit underwhelming lately and rng granted me a 4spu isillia, (also have ermaltion) should i switch ?????????????
pls halp
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>>164585345
You're gonna explode either way desu, just use whoever is better for the match.
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>>164585345
Doesn't matter you'll be paralyzed either way
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>angela recall
Who should I get now?
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>>164585745
the new gk
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>>164584608
>vf
KEK
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>>164585745
You don't have an option.
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>>164585745
Angela.
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>>164585862
What about Presty's Robin?
>>
>>164584664
alright we get it, your club's teams are garbage
>>
>alice now gives the line 30% dr instead of debuffing 20% crit off enemies in line
woooooooooow darkball
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>>164586316
That is a bit personal buff you moron. Alice is now somewhat balanced.
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>>164586316
>He thinks it's going to be totem
>>
Is Serestia a good dark CM now?
Should I get her or Presty to replace my Jin?
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>>164585439
so i guess isillia against dark strikers and lucian against ww ones shanti gives no fuck tho

>>164585970
>got him 6* from mileage,2 dupes coz rng
>scouted presty clockwork recently

is he just a meme, he is stealth op ?
i would have no problems trying him, but don't want to waste a 6* littre and find out he is bad......
80% crit damage resist sounds good tho
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>>164586935
forgot pic
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>>164586935
He's not a meme or stealth op. He is just better than Raklet.
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>>164517339
DALE
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>>164584608

VF works on some teams, but 70% of the time she will be facing Victoria.

If you are WW/Dark you may want a dark player in that slot who can brawl with Victoria without giving them a free pen.
>>
Now that it's time to bandwagon Serestia, what's her stone setup?
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>>164587917
Max action speed so she kills herself faster
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>>164588305
zenshit
wb donaldo
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>>164588589
Nope, a worse shitposter
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>>164588305
Clopanon?
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>>164588638
Noody cares
>>
>They'll nerf rank club prize this patch
ree no point in doing them now
>>
>>164553514
>not the massive DR
>not the heals
>not the synergy with Kevin
>>
So what did they do to Shu?
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>>164589234
read the notes
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>>164588939
>From 500 crystals to 100 crystals for rank 1
lel
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>>164589234

Shu and gaphyl can now just stand there and gaze into each other's eyes to magically heal their line to 100% health while maxing out the spirit bar.
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>>164589234
They made him the Alpha and Gaphyl the Omega. Together they become the one above all.
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>>164589440
>>164589547
>Thinking anyone can use Shu and Gaphyl together
Enjoy getting OHKO'd, nerds
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>>164589373
Good. Those whales that spent hundreds of crystals thinking they will get them back just got fucked. Well deserved.
>>
>>164589745
not like ardor has any other options
>>
Request best mid-line for Ustiel. All for waifu
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>>164589920
monolight?
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>>164589841
>3rd place in club
>no longer mad I'm not #1
Looks like I get the last laugh
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>>164589745
>caring about away matches
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>>164590023
>tfw clubmates used crystals to get ahead of me
>tfw back at second
>>
>bb gives crystals at the end of club match season
>everyone happy and plays and enjoys it
>now the reward is shit
What the fuck are they thinking? Are these chink jews so stupid?
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>>164590321
There was small reason to do club matches even with all their desperate giveaways and now is slightly less
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>>164590468
There was a great reason called Irene.
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Angela or BT? I have no interest in building WW team, but don't have ardor legends for mono ardor either, so i'm rainbow for now
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>>164590735
BT is cuter, you do the math
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>>164590727
AS soon as you get her, you can stop now. The reward is worthless and scout items are not much better.
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>>164590727
Oh yes what a lifesaver that thing was, thanks bigballs
>>
Clubs should give out pigs as a season reward (the same way galaxy league gives out Littres).

>several 3* pigs given out based on where the club ranks globally
>One 5* pig for top 3 players in each club
>Everyone else in the top 10 get Kuma as a participation prize
>>
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>>164590934
I like her.
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Someone up for a trade? Need rainbow eles
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>saber says they're going to buff unused players in the patch
>its all legend buffs
okay
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>>164591914
But Shu was unused
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>>164591914
But Micki did get buff.
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>>164591330
>wasting 5 littres for a tiny amount of gold saved
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>>164592090
>Micki
Her skillset says she is a literal filler.
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>>164592197
Must be nice to be an entry level player.
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>>164592347
Must be nice to be a retard.
>>
Can Lucian get a 10 minute active block or should I just continue lubing up as always?
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>>164592197
>Wasting
Not a waste buddy. She will only continue to save me money.

Littre are not hard to come by.
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>>164592228
Micki has a great new skill for PVE. I'm glad about it.
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>>164592536
>money is a problem
>saving 5% is worth a bunch of littres
Not that I have any problem with you liking her but it's negligible
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>>164592536
Even over a very long time of playing it's still only a few million gold, I'd rather have the littres do something useful instead of being in a manager I only use 0.1% of the time.
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>>164591914

>Shu was the least used legend.
>Serestia was also very seldom used (among the lowest of the season 1 or 2 legends).
>Baltheon was used a fair bit, but people still tended to bench him for shura+ elaine.

Pic related is player data from last season before the ace bursts were added. Leventor was also way at the bottom before ace burst but people are using him again on mono teams.
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>>164592391
Guess we spotted the literal bronzie
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>>164592734
2.5% increase saved for each and every single spirit stone upgrade and 5% more for every combine.

Yes it adds up.

>>164592829
Good thing I have a bunch more 6* Littre, 5* Littre and 3* Littre just sitting in my box.

Yeah if my team wasting hypermax then it wouldn't be smart using them on a manager.

As this dude >>164592347 said this isn't for new players.
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>>164592832
Leventor is being used for his pen and because he's the only striker besides Vann who can make monothunder usable.
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>>164592832
This is based on one persons account and doesn't take PVE into consideration. Stupid honestly.
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>>164592832
>shu more used than felix
KEK
>>
>>164592832
>A whopping 3.53% for Shu
>When there are dozens of players that are seen literally 0% of the time
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>>164592954
I've played this game for two years and I still rather superb new units I wanna experiment with instead of a manager that does such a tiny difference I'll never notice it.
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>>164593049

Shu has been replaced by Asslad for PvE. And Serestia has very little PvE value.
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>>164593049
Who cares about PvE. These are Galaxy stats.
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>>164592829
Ever since they added CoT reward and PVP reward littre their value has decreased.

Irene is a good manager to max out. Assuming you only make unique stones she saves you 51,200 gold each time you combine for one.

Considering you need to get five stones to +15 and RNG is the deciding factor there she saves you even more gold per unique combine and its no telling how much exactly.

She is an end game manager.
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>>164593049
>pve
>aka sharr+elaine and win
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>>164593049
>This is based on one persons account

People tally data every season. It is always close.

But you are right that it is only PvP appearance rate. When people are calling for buffs and nerfs they are talking about PvP though.
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>>164593240
I'm not talking about Shu I mean in general.

Those stats again are only from ONE person climbing pvp.
>>
We should do our own stats of players seen from champs to galaxy from when we reach it to the end of the season.
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>>164593209
Fascinating.

I've been playing since 2014 and have Littre to spare and also like making changes to teams for various situations.

Maybe someday you can do both like I can.

Ingram was the manager I maxed out right before her and 0 regrets since doing it.
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>on monday got a littre from dailies
>now got a neris
nani
>>
>gonna get 1000 st after the patch tomorrow from the enervation fuck up
feels good man
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>>164593473
I guess you switch teams less than I do then if you indeed find it so easy to save up littres.

And btw it's still not worth it just for a vanishingly tiny percentage of gold saved on gold upgrades, you will never actually feel or notice the impact of the littres you poured into her.
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>>164593829
>enervation fuck up
???
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>>164594008
enervation wasn't being added for a short time during the WG match
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>>164593871
>you will never actually feel or notice the impact of the littres you poured into her.

She saved me 400k in the last event just from combine alone. Who knows how much from all the upgrades I did for the 40 spirit stones to +15.

But okay m8. Believe what you want.
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>>164594182
Wow so not even 100k gold per littre

When the fucking littres cost 250k to evolve to 6*

Yeah man such value, drowning in it.
>>
D-do I?
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>>164593303
>no telling how much exactly
I don't know it kind of looks like it says exactly how much.
Every 20 upgrades you get one (1) free.
Every 10 combinations you get one (1) free.
You can stop trying to play her up now, big ball.
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>>164594384
Yes.
Useless units to a useless furry sounds like a fair deal
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>>164594442
B-but his EE will make him great, won't it?
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>>164594384
Seems decent with a Kirin front or some shit like that
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>>164594442
All those units are great other wise BB would have buffed them duhhh
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>>164594324
Ooh boy you got me anon. I will only ever combine and upgrade spirit stones one time per year!

5% of 30 million gold is a nice 1.5 million saved with her effect which pays for the combine cost of said littre. 409,600 saved from combine cost. So just shy of 2 million gold.

She can save me this a few times a year and I consider it worth.

Stay mad poorfag
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>>164594764
Except the saving is less than half that because you get half the savings for 0 littres, and slowly increasing since you can scout her superbs for free each club season.
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Presty, Jin, or Serestia? pls no bully
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>>164593368
>Those stats again are only from ONE person climbing pvp.

Any of those published match stats never seem far off from my own observations. When they say metatron is on 70% of diamond-Galaxy teams that is not an unrealistic claim.

Maybe some other people would encounter her on only 65% of teams, while others 76% as they climbed? The estimate of usage is within reason.

When (if) you hit galaxy last season how many shu players were you encountering in your final week? How many Serestia? It was definitely in the single digits for me am I could go weeks without meeting a shu.
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>>164594925
>he doesn't know
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>>164594925
>and slowly increasing since you can scout her superbs for free each club season.

Assuming they don't rotate out Managers which they likely will do. This would take a fucking long ass time.

You will be flowing in littre by the time this happens. This is like retards saying you should wait for superb bosses to come back.
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>>164595007
Pretty sure the stats are just from some dude fighting people in Galaxy which ignores 99% of the rest of the league.
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>>164594956
BT is already really strong and very cute

Get Serestia, no question
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>>164594956
>bt skin
end your pathetic life
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>>164594925
>Half that

I mean the post straight up says it paid for the littre combine cost.

Why are you so upset someone else can superb something that you can't?
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>>164595256
>which ignores 99% of the rest of the league
>caring about the nonelites
Most of those people are shit at the game so it doesn't make a difference.
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>>164595476
The question was who was the least used legendary so those percentages are false. Shu is likely byfar the most underused legend right now.
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>>164595256
And we care about lower leagues why? Most of them are bandwagoners or shit.
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>>164595187
Every 2 weeks = 5* Littre from CoT

10 weeks = Max Irene

which is faster than waiting for her in club matches even assuming she comes back every season which I doubt.
>>
25 rerolls in, no legendary in sight, no 5 star striker either, these rates are absolute garbage.
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>>164595256

The stats are usually the climb from diamond to galaxy in most of those compilations.

Data from slum tiers is not worth adding because unfinished teams are mostly being used with stopgap players and they barely count as real teams.
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>>164595542
I haven't seen a single felix and there was quite a few shu in silver and bronze.
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>>164595734
I've seen 0 Shu on my climbs to Galaxy in the last few seasons. I don't know it just seems off to suggest he's been seen more than Felix who I know I have run into on thunder teams.

Hell it say Vonchi is lower than Askeladd which is bullshit too.

But whatever.
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>>164595320
Irene has 2.5% saving for free, that is, zero littres. So the littres getting her to 5% is very little gained per littre. 0.5% cheaper upgrades per littre. That's so laughably little, even if you spend an absurd amount of gold on upgrades.
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>>164595864
Isn't that mostly because Felix is pretty much only good for Thunder and also because he's a new legend?
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>>164595962
It's because he talks about silver and bronze. At that level most people simply use what they have instead of caring how good these player are.
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>>164595953
Its still 750k for spirit stone upgrades and 200k for combine. Still shy of 1 million gold for one day and one time. She will save millions of gold by the end of the year.

End game there is no reason not to use her or managers like Halloween Eve and Ingram at max.

Do you even have Lucy or Gerold max out?
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So Serestia = Free gate to colo 55?

Just keep making her die to lower the entire team to ohko status including the goalie?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIViZbmue4
passion nerfs when
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>>164596579
>considering seriously this
Brb bandwagoning my qt whore
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>>164596579
Don't think that works against Latios teams though.
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>>164596924
Nah not on Latios. But it works on the majority of floors.
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>>164596991
she still decreases 20% max hp as passive,
and if the 20% remaining hp damage triggers after latios heal she should make killing colo gks much easier
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>>164596991
Guess after you have her die like 4 times, you've pretty much gotten your use out from her.
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>>164550998
>New thunder GK looks good, especially with Altair and Nerua.
>Shu is good now. Just what ardor needed, now all of its legendaries are good.
>Jin buffs is literally 15% defense.
>Baltheon somehow needed a buff because he wasn't Metatron tier
>Serestia is now as ridiculous as Metatron, I am just dying to see my CM trying to attack both Metatron and Serestia mid.
>Angela nerfs was meh, she still is better than Lucian
>no Elaine nerfs

If anyone was still wondering if darkball is coming, they are going full force now.
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>>164597270

The 20% gravity starts to give diminishing returns, while the latios heal is always at full 20% power because it is based on max hp.

death 1: 80% (20% damage)
death 2: 64% (16% damage)
death 3: 52% (12% damage)
death 4: 41% (9% damage)
death5: 33% (8% damage)

When the enemy team is under 50% a latios heal is worth two Serestia gravity attacks.

I guess it depends on how low you need to get the GK before you can finish them. Gravity is shit below 40% and latios will out-heal it.
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>>164566921
It's only fun if you don't care about PvP.
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>>164598267
Darkball will only be on full force when ardor stops obliterating them
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>>164598267

>Jin buffs is literally 15% defense.

Did you forget the 30% more DR on his active block? That is a bigger buff than the 15% defense.
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>>164598889
Too bad it won't work against the next two shots.
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>>164599146

Or the first shot if you win the flip.
>>
>people say neraizel can outreflex meta
>people even dare to say she can steal from her at the beginning of the match
How the fuck? I'm sure this shit is impossible
>>
>>164599293
everyone and there grandmother is running bat meta
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>>164599293
With a bad Nera you can't
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>>164599292
Jin can easily survive first shot
>>164599146
Doesn't matter. Jin was already good this is just making him better.
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>>164599426
>good neras
How are they built? I doubt there's a way to make them that good
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>angela nerf
>thunder gets angela 2.0
BB moving up the goal post i see
>>
>>164599584
She's not even good yet.
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>>164599521
With Enthia ace
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>>164599443
>better
It is the same as giving someone an extra 1 dribble and saying it got buffed, he didn't get shit compared to Baltheon who was already good.
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>>164599521
TW Nera buffed by Khirel, VF in mid to help her
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>>164599293

She can. I do it at the start of every club match against whale team metatrons with battalion or TW.

>128 action speed at the flip
>2.8k reflex
>2.1k steal stat
>high crit damage
>VF and meta both debuffing each others reflex so no net gain
>VF gives 15% DI totem which offsets meta's attack debuff passive

It is easier for nera to just OHKO meta than it is to take it from reflex though. Best case is she inflicts fatal damage while also taking the ball from reflex (this gives 50% extra spiirt from her counterattack stone).

tl;dr

Metatron is badly bullied by Nera now.
>>
>>164599697
No its not actually.

The extra DR from his active will help quite a bit.
>>
>>164599653
she'll heal more than 20% or so with ST
she has potential
>>
>>164599831
>nera
>not meta and vf debuffing her to a weakling level
Sure, she's so powerful
>>
>>164599845
She's going to lose a good 60% or more the first shot too.
>>
FTS Duran
Or
SHOT Duran?
>>
>>164599845
Does her skill even boost unique stones?
>>
>>164599946

No meta on nera's team. Juts VF and Meiran.

VF is providing equivalent debuffs to offset meta debuffs (attack/DI and reflex).
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>>164600141
SHoT if you wanna handle the ball to Elaine or mid
>>
>>164600173
And dark CAR in prizm too then?
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He just need superbs and beelze.
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>>164557652
you didnt reroll for one?
>>
>>164600361
>bt with no silk
>literally nuked by sharr
>>
so what should my next legend be ? i have leventor baltheon and i run angela.
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>>164599521

This is POL Nera with shit substats.

With TW she would be over 3k reflex but she loses the neck snapping power and the hp. Assist AI need higher hp or they may become reluctant to steal.
>>
>>164599835
>extra DR will help quite a bit
Yes, just a "bit", and that is nothing compared to what the other elements got. It makes me remember Beatrice buffs, she got 15% Crit Damage and that's it.
>>
>>164600684
William
>>
>>164599998
>she passes and recovers the line
>each pass the line makes is more heal for the line
Yeah, she's very bad
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>>164600614
Probably any Ardor striker can deal with it
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>>164600789
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>>164600756
Jin didn't need buffs at all anyway.

You people want him to get a fucking built in heal to be maximum cancer.
>>
>>164600997

His midline looked like mush, even with aslan buffing them.
>>
>>164600684
Presty Cockwork. You probably should get Duran if you aren't running monoX
>>
>>164600756
>other elements got

You mean just Dark right? Shut up stupid.

Shu has been bottom barrel for longer than any other legend and do you see the reaction Serestia is getting right now?
>>
>* Developer’s Comment: A wise tactician can prove his worthiness just by showing his presence on the field
A wise tactician wouldn't do something retarded as getting speed when getting attacked.

>We wish people would know that Whirlwind attackers shouldn’t be underestimated
It it hard to not underestimate them when VB and Enthia exists. Without to mention that Khirel, their legendary striker, is much weaker than Duke and now Shu, other legendary attackers. He hits for less than Choi who is a fucking leader.
>>
>>164601107
>jin didn't need buffs
>he's still worse than angela and the new thunder goalie
>>
>>164600909
Point is she's not angela 2.0, doesn't matter how well she heals when she's not that tanky.
Most frontlines are lightning fucking fast anyway.
>>
So, how long until the game closes?
>>
>>164601183
>>We wish people would know that Whirlwind attackers shouldn’t be underestimated

Why do they put this comment under Ernesto's EE description?

He is not an attacker and up front there are never any attackers with him.
>>
>>164601208
>he's still worse than angela and the new thunder goalie

Not really and KEK

Don't even know how good or bad the new thunder girls stats are. Aside from her heal she comes with DR and Crit resist thats it.

Don't even know her stone slots. Don't hype her up till we have all the facts.
>>
>>164601237
>nerua/altair/ass with the new goalie
>2 dr totems, and a global hp/defense and cr totem
>all of those increased even further
>after a shot she may do a forward pass
I'd use her without hesitation if i was thunder
>>
>>164601338
Hey its 2014
>>
>>164601183
>doesn't know who's an attacker and who's an striker
Fuck off BB
>>
There are so many Shu in platinum atm, im scared.
>>
>>164601383
She's the best thunder goalie but I'm only comparing her to angela because of anon-kun.
>>
>>164601113
I don't remember the stats very well, but that new WW had 900 dribble and 650~ steal and it's a player without EE. His Khirel was critting for at minimum 2k up to 3,4k, I
>>
>>164601107
I want them to stop wasting time on useless shit like this. They literally said that they want Jin to remain competitive, but they refuse to give him self heal, or better healing in general for WW.

>>164601178
>because Shu was weak before, he doesn't count as ardor anymore
>>
Should I get Presty to go ww/dark, or get duran to go full mono ww?
>>
So, when is ardor getting gutted like they deserve?
>>
>>164601675
Do you want to be turbocancer or do you want to bully thunder while being bullied by ardor?
>>
>>164601817
First, and first half of second
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>>164601513
Wait, is that a mistranslation for strikers? How can someone fuck that up so much?

And that shit doesn't even make sense, if they want people to use WW strikers, buff them directly, or make a player that buffs only WW.
>>
>>164600747
Which teamwork stat should be better? reflex, crit or attack?
>>
>>164601619

>His Khirel was critting for at minimum 2k up to 3,4k
That sounds normal for Khirel with an ardor stone.

>new WW had 900 dribble and 650~ steal
That seems low considering they are both hit by Aslan buffs. How was their reflex?
>>
>>164601675
WW is deader than dead. And now that they got a decent GK who will get an EE before Miho, they can't even bully Thunder as much anymore.
>>
>>164602073

Nera in that picture has reflex. That was lucky as it was the first thing to appear and I didn't have to reroll hearts.
>>
>>164601668
I want you to stop being retarded. BT has your heal so use her. Jin is fine as is.
>>
>>164600361
>Aiolos
>Aslan
>Xing
free win
>>
>>164602253
I doubt that, my shanti will 1 shot that gk without issue, if she lives it'll be with 10% hp at most.
>>
>>164602285
>calls other people retarded
>somehow thinks that BT being able to heal herself is going to make Jin remain competitive
>>
>>164602253
WW is great though?
>>
So is Raklet officially old and busted?
>>
>>164602756
With new sexy thunder GK, yes.
>>
>>164600361
>aslan
WWNIGGERWHORE NERFS WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>164602668

WW is held back by three big Obstacles that every player and their dog use:
Elaine
Victoira
Angela

One has been nerfed. If the other two get some balance then WW will be having a very good year in 2017.

Obviously Choi & William are issue too but legends are legends. WW should always expect to be bullied by them.
>>
>>164602668
Shanti, it's best striker, is still behind at least 1 striker from all other elements. And ardor is so good, that everyne uses them, and WW can't do shit against them.
>>
>wwcuckniggerwhores defending their cancer
FUCK OFF NIGGERS STOP FALSEFLAGGING MY SSG
>>
>>164602920
>>164603156
Just because other elements are good doesnt mean WW is bad lol
>>
>>164602508
Jin has ALWAYS been competitive you fuck and he most definitely still is.

Even back when his active skill was dogshit because of zombie backline he remained competitive.
>>
>>164603156

There is a surprising amount of bitching on reddit, SSglobal, and the official forums (plus here) about beatrice needing a buff badly. A loyal fanbase are still angry over the ass thing.

They have been screaming since the 7th star update that honorable vow made no sense for a striker and that she is wasting a skill slot on something that doesn't boost offense.

She has mostly vanished from high galaxy and if BB really do answer the requests to buff her they may make a monster.
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>>164603891
>A loyal fanbase are still angry over the ass thing.

Nah. No one cares anymore.

She needs a buff but Hiro needs one before she does or at the same time.
>>
>>164603891
The real elephant in the room is Uriel She is absolutely useless in this meta, and reddit is completely right about her needing buffs.
btw I'm an urielfag
>>
>>164603609

No other element has claim to the top 3 non-legend players in the game.

Every element has trouble with the ardor cancer players (if they are not already using them on their light or dark teams). It isn't just WW that has a hard time with Elaine and Vic, it's just that their OP fuckery punishes WW even worse than it does the other teams.
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>>164604195
Go away
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>>164603854
Are you mentally chanllenged? BB thinks that Jin won't be used with Presty being better in every aspect including looks. So they decided to give him 15% defense to remain competitive.

What I am saying is that this logic is retarded, if BB THINKS that he won't remain competitive, it is certainly not 15% defense that is going to change it. Jin problems is not that he dies even with active block, it is that he doesn't do shit when he is not active blocking.
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>>164604279
>it is that he doesn't do shit when he is not active blocking.

Besides debuff the enemy line and buff your line.

Hurrrr

Okay buddy.

You don't know what the fuck it is you're talking about. I don't give a fuck what the developer comments say. Jin has always been and is still competitive.

Presty being bullshit doesn't make Jin bad. Same way Metatron and now Serestia being bullshit doesn't make other units bad.
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>>164603891
>since the 7th star update
I have been complaining about this shit since 2014 when they gave 3 striker passives to Hiro, and later on to Sharr.
>>
MIGRATE
>>164604748
>>164604748
>>164604748
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>>164604454
Metatron being good made everyone else bad.
Elaine being good made everyone else bad.
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>>164604454
>Hurrrrr
Oh, you are retarded.
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>>164604997
You have no argument as to why Jin is not competitive.

Just shut the fuck up and take the dicks out of your mouth before replying to me again.
>>
>>164605096
You have yet to learn to read.
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>>164595946
i've seen quite a few shus on mono ardor teams, shits random.
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>>164604240
If everyone has to worry about ardor players how is that not in WW's favor? Instead of having to worry about both ardor and the element you're weak against you just have to worry about ardor.
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