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>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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hardcucks are NOT welcome here
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>>164471120
Why aren't we investing every dollar into cloning QTs like those as sex slaves?
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Rate my current build: dual scorchibg ray totem+searing bonds+RF+flameblast chieftain
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>>164471573
it's shit
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fun build to push through the remaining 3k map tiers?
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>>164472070
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>>164462446
I have two monitors
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nice game poetards
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>>164471204
but we're all top 10 bhc players what are you talking about
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>>164472049

Something like a ST Howa-Raider is probably the pinnacle of poe gamplay.

>fast movement speed
>fast movement skill
>fast clear
>good damage
>CI so almost immortal but can still die if you are absolutely retarded
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>playing Mathil builds
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>>164364254
>free
>>164380915
>free
>>164384725
>free
>>164389516
>free
>>164389902
>free
>>164397021
>FREE
>>164412430
>FREE
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>>164472545
>Mathil created HoWA builds
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>>164472545

Dreamfeather ST was pretty dope. Everything else last and this league was pretty generic.
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new player from the other day here

Should I keep this and try to make it 6 link? I heard a noise I never heard before when it dropped and got excited because I thought it was a 6 link. It's actually worse than what I'm wearing as far as energy shield goes. I don't know how much I should value some of these things, I've only seen 3 5-slot chest pieces so far at level 49 and none were 5 linked.

I read the wiki page for this and the level chart doesn't really seem to have any bearing on when or how often I'll see these types of armor.
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over 1200 fusings wasted trying to six link vaal regalia. there's no turning back right?
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>>164472770
vendor
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>>164472770

If you are a troll fuck you if not. No. Six-linking is almost never worth it. Buy a 5link and then farm currency for your armorpiece of choice six-linked.
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>>164472770
Getting it 6l can take upwards of hundreds of fusings, and then some. Not worth it on something not endgame.
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>>164472870
thanks

>>164472875
Not a troll just new, sorry fampai. I do know getting a 6 link is tough I just wondered if I should keep it for rolling a new char or something.
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>>164472889
>Getting it 6l can take upwards of hundreds of fusings
>hundreds
More like thousands.
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>>164472965
> I do know getting a 6 link is tough

this doesnt even discribe is. In 9/10 cases you are better of buying it 6 linked from poe.trade than waste fusings on linking it.

>average 1,3k fusings
>vorici 1,5k fusings
>140 fusings around 1ex
>meanwhile you get 6 linked 600es+ regalias vor 5ex upwards and most of the unique chests around 6-9 ex

fucking fusings
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>>164473198
>>140 fusings around 1ex
I might have hoarded like 2ex worth of fuses then
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>6.6k hp but i can push it to 7k
>Still feel like i'm made of glass
>Meme build is pretty weak, not even a glass cannon

puts a real bummer on the league
BLOG
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>game's money is crafting materials
>it's almost never worth crafting something yourself instead of just buying stuff from someone else
>crafting materials are worth more when they're not used for their intended purpose
>the economy consists of dealing in said items
>in the end, the crafting materials are just the same as having gold, credits or whatever you want to call regular money because they should not be used in crafting because you never get their "real worth" out of using them in the crafting process
just typing this out had me scratch my head and shaking my head several times
how is the current system better than just having "gold" and having some sort of NPC artisans who you can pay for to craft items?
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Don't waste your time
or time will waste You
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you are wasting your time playing this child's farming simulator

go outside and impregnate some young females
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>>164473767
too late
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i'm too ugly and filthy and miserable to do anything
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>>164472184
ha, you saved it :3
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:^)
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>>164473721
>because you never get their "real worth" out of using them in the crafting process
this is where you're wrong, buddy
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>>164474027
That's illegal though
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>>164474240
examples please
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>>164474126
Yes, thank you
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>>164472770
this
>>164472981


Average is around 1000-1500 probably

Don't waste fusings on anything other than your endgame gear.
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I'm thinking about playing a Scion, wish me luck guys
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>>164405420
redbeak
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>>164473721
>smthg RMT GGG D3 leddit boogeyman
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>>164472770
Notably, you can waste fusings to get 4links while levelling but even then it is usually better to just look for 4 links that drop, or buy a 4link for a few alts. This will basically always be cheaper than linking something yourself.

Even buying a 6link is usually cheaper than linking yourself (For reasons of gambling/economy). But some builds need weird chests/weapons which are hard to find for sale linked so sometimes, linking yourself is the only option.

Yadda yadda don't waste your fusings they are good to save up.
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>>164474271
1 fuse can get you a 6 link
1 alch or chaos can get you a 900 es chest
unlikely, but it can happen and it gives players more enjoyment when it does, as opposed to grinding 10 million coins for a 6L craft
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>>164474812
what?
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>>164473721
>he never crafted before because he's afraid of using his exalts
>he will always be a poorfag shitter farming dried lake 24/7 praying to god that a raw exalt drops so he can buy his next gear upgrade for his trash build
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>>164474271
Last league, I crafted this belt with about 20 alts, 1 augment, 1 regal and a master craft so yeah, I am a fan of crafting myself.
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>>164474828
>you can waste fusings to get 4links while levelling
I've noticed this, I wasted my meager amount of fusings trying to get the 4 links I have. I did just use poe.trade for the first time though, to get myself a 5link, despite my anxiety of whether I was going to somehow fuck up trading etiquette (even with the copy paste). I originally thought I could get through my first playthrough without using that site but I also really wanted a 5link.
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>>164475105
Why didn't you exalt it?
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>>164472440
that's exactly what i need

it just so happens that i have a near perfect HoWA in my stash, right next to averageish 6L vaal regalia
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>>164474671
I gave up on this idea, sorry guys
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>>164475112
>I originally thought I could get through my first playthrough without using that site but I also really wanted a 5link.
I play self found half the time myself (keep a s/f in HC and a regular character in non hc each league, usually) and using currency becomes a much bigger deal there.

Definitely, though, unless you are into gambling, trading is almost always the cheaper option. I've 6linked things in 20 fuses, but I've also manged to burn over 2500 fusings trying to 6link a Shav's and I'm still salty as fuck about it so yeah.
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>>164474836
lol
it can also happen that you'll blow over 1k fusings and not get a 6L, and that's a much more likely outcome which is what most people will experience
this is just personal prefference but I'd rather have to grind a big amount of materials for a GUARANTEED chance of getting the outcome I want, because that way I don't get my ass fucked by rng
>>164475105
I can understand why some people would like crafting. It's probably just my biased view on this matter, because when rng gives me the middle finger it leaves me feeling like all the effort put up to that point was for naught
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>>164475182
can get
>armor
o wow
>life
sure helps my CI yep
>Flask life/mana recovery
such power
>ele damage w/ weaps
very good for ED
>Reflect phys
literally h u e

And I didn't need to scale the fire res higher than what master provided, as I had enough on other gear.

...but now that it is in Standard I consider scouring it and slamming it quite often...
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>>164474671
>>164475245
Scion is a difficult class to play, she's not for beginners
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just go to normal kuduku and make that shit happen

ez game
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>>164475440
this desu, praising kuduku is free 6link all day.
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>>164472598
>8 to 15 fully linked posts
>only links to seven posts

Uh.. poetards?
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>>164475440
>witch's pale skinny sexy legs
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>>164475391
I would have exalted for another good resistance, then crafted on movement speed but that's just me.
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>that huge ass skill tree and fuckload of active skills result in thousands of possivle viable builds
>I changed 5 passive skill point allocations so it's a new build
>this is what /poeg/ cucks actually believe
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>>164475636
I considered it, believe me, but I am a very coward ;_;
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>>164475656
>I only play crit builds which basically have interchangeable trees

play something non meta bro
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>>164475656
>1000s of possible builds
>only, like, 5 builds are actually viable
sad truth
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>tfw you realize this game will always be shit because everything including drop rates is balanced around 2 minute clear times on endgame maps
>people who made this game actually thought having stacking multiplicative damage modifiers is a good idea

Do you seriously expect 3.0 being anything but a massive disappointment?
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>>164475753
I literally made a crystal belt just like yours when they were released with perfect 51 es, t1 fire, t2 light, t4 cold, divined to 79 and crafted 5% movespeed and sold it to a flipper in an instant for 10 ex
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>>164475976
stacking multiplicative modifiers is good, it's called synergies retard

remove CI and vaal pact, nerf the fucking incoming damage, and it will be fine
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Who Witch HoWa here
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>>164476103
t. redditor
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>>164475909
aka play stuff that no one else plays for good reason
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>>164476103
Make logging out not a viable option too
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I have a feeling I've done something wrong even though I've followed this build exactly:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1647240
I have Soul Taker near perfect rolls and using Cleave at the moment. My clear speed feels so slow and sluggish, any ideas how I could improve it?
I did manage to kill Merciless Izaro pretty easily, as well as Malachai, just to see if I could do it. And the only thing I had trouble with was the Ring of Fire, because Multistrike binds me into one place so I can't leap away exactly when I want.

So, I was thinking about trying Sunder with Concentrated Effect - Multistrike - Added Fire Damage.

I watched his videos as well, and my playstyle looks generally the same, but everything is so much slower. Is it because I'm still level 76, or is it just the build, how it plays?

Need help, am new.
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>>164476103
>Nerf incoming damage
>This fucker wasn't around in the glory days of being one-shot by rhoas
:^) what a scrub
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>>164476103
No it isn't, retard, it quickly leads to losing control over how much damage players can do. Nobody does this.
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>>164476194
>wanting to do anything past t8
>t8 is best tier bro
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>>164476262
I was
I was also around too when they added all "the new content" with damage way higher than everything else before

even diablo 3 understood that life leech was a godly stat with high enough damage, and had to remove it from the game
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>>164476252
I'm gonna say don't use Cleave desu
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>>164476406
>diablo 3
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>>164476469
> not understanding how life leech make life gain on hit and basic regen completely obsolete
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>>164472070
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>remove life leech from anyhthing but real melee attacks
>buff/tweak accordingly

Y/N?
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>>164476406
>Diablo 3
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>>164472440
spectral throw feels like ass tho
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>>164476523
that has nothing to do with my post
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>>164476554
The only major change I would consider would be moving Vaal Pact further away from Ghost Reaver. ES has a huge base life pool, it should be punished a bit for also investing into fast recovery.
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>>164476595
as opposed to quoting "diablo 3" without understanding anything from the initial post ?
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m8s, help me clarify this one:
when I use cold spells, all mods on Woe Bite, including implict, equals 84% inc spell damage? Or I can't just add %spell dmg and %ele dmg nodes?
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"diablo 3" had an AH, keep a shitty trade system in poe, for "great player interaction" !
"diablo 3" removed life leech, keep it and vaal pact in poe !

you're the cancer killing poe
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>>164476768
my point is that you can't use diablo 3 as an example, ever
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>>164476768
They're tism can't handle D3 m8
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>>164476867

"increased" modifiers can normally be just added

in that wands case, you end up with 86% increased damage for cold spells

there are a few exceptions with ambiguous wording but dont worry about that
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>>164476998
> the two biggest loot/grinding arpg
> can't compare them

you're retarded
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I need to pick a character for whatever my next build is gonna be
1-3 Witch
4-6 Ranger
7-9 Templar
0 Freedom
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>>164476879
>>164477585


D3 is a game with such different design philosophies through time that you cant really use it for comparisons without going into logical fallacy except to make a point about devs correcting their mistakes only to end up worse
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>>164477659
you chose poorly
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>>164477659
close one mate
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me the cat

you the bird(a sh*tbird)
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>>164477659

random.org autist
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Nah idiot
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>>164477403
thanks senpai, u r bro
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You're welcome
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>>164477791
> implying vanilla d3 was better than current d3

just no
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>>164477659
test
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>>164477878
plastic dinosaur: PoE
(You): the cat
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>>164477585
>> the two biggest loot/grinding arpg
D3 is NOTHING like PoE
I'm still fucking mad to this day
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>>164478259
LL RF mana 30k energy shield is gonna be
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>>164473721
the only items that applies to is super rare shit like exalts, and even those are used by rich players.
more common currency is used by every player
>transmutes, alts and augs
used to roll flasks, low level maps, and in combination with regals for simple rare crafting
>whetstones, scraps, baubles
used to qual all your gear
>chisels
qual mid and high tier maps
>alchs
used on mid and high tier maps
>chaos
used to roll high tier maps, and for master crafting as well as zana mods
>vaal
high tier maps, lvl20 skill gems for a chance at lvl 21
>regal
for upgrading particularly good magics (made from alt/aug spam) to rare
>GCP
qual your gems or make lvl1 20qual gems

the only crafting materials that most people never use are exalts, blesseds and divines. (and mirrors of course)
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>>164477403
btw. my 0q added ligh. dmg. gem just leveled from 16 to 17 rising toolpit by over 20%
makes me think if bench flat ele dmg wouldn't be better than 11% cast speed
I'll probably stop being cheap cunt and just try how it works in practice
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>>164478167
>current d3
kys my man
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>>164478342
>D3 is NOTHING like PoE
>I'm still fucking mad

well, at least there is one line containing truth
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1-3 ED something
4-6 BF something
7-9 HoWA ST probably raider
0 the next dubs decides as long as it's budget friendly (first char on this league)
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>>164478537
I'm serious. I played D2 like an absolute maniac for ~10 years (I still play from time to time, but mostly PoE) and D3 failed on all the promises.
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>"Diablo 3 has real hardcore unlike PoE because you can't log out when you want"
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>>164478842
Using ingame mechanics to save your ass sounds fine. What's the problem here?
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almost lost 10% xp to bameth spawning in a breach
q:^)
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>>164478945
>health build
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>>164478842
fortunately there is no spike damage in poe, so it is not needed
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>>164478263
everyone calls me a shitter but i'm easily in the top3 best players in poeg
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>>164479272
show me you rank 25 demi again
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>>164478431
depends on the spell/build

flat damage can be extremely good on certain shit like flame totems
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>>164479318
it was a 10 day race and i won that demi in the first 3 days, and i could have won two more demis that race if i didn't die
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Do physical damage with weapons nodes increase bladefall damage?
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>>164478945
>tfw died to bameth earlier in a beyond map because I waited to see if it was really a beyond boss or just a big instead of just detonating vaal DD right away for safety
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>>164478775

Hrmm BF sounds fun.Is the CWC build expensive to make or should I just make dagger BF?
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>>164479601
Is Bladefall a weapon?
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Can Arc fork?
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>>164476252
Why soul taker? One of the leech nodes near duelist starter area should be enough to let you replace Soul Taker with a decent weapon, maybe varunastra. Use Earthquake
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>>164479957
arc isnt a projectile
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has anyone notice less to much less populated beaches lately?

have they nerfed them?
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>>164480251
don't post 3d children here
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>>164480379
>children

thats my wife you asshole
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>>164471120
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void battery stacks in dual wield right?
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Just ripped my lvl 90 chieftain. Kinda sad, it was a fun build and very effective, but shit happens

What are some fun, relatively tanky builds you guy enjoy ?

Right now i've been hovering between a ''''tanky'''' raider, crit slayer with Katana named Ken-sama, and your basic champion. What else is there?
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>>164481772
berserker with vaal pact
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>>164481772
Max Block
Blade Vortex
Scion
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>>164480009
Mana 100% reserved because of Herald of Ash, Hatred and Arctic Armour.
What auras and buffs do you suggest I run?
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>>164481982
fuckign balls to the wall eh. Maybe.
>>164481987
>Scion
No thanks
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>>164482232
>fuckign balls to the wall eh.
lol
you love that gay boy
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>guy tries to haggle on an item that you already have listed far below the next lowest price
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Posting again since old thread dead,
How is this looking http://poeurl.com/YIn for a dual obliteration with crown of eyes and occultist.
Plan is to clear trash with poison and let em explode to death then barrage on single target.
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>>164482329
Happens to me all the time
>Market price is 20c
>List it at 15c for a quick sale
>"Willing to buy your item, will you accept 10c? :)"
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How good is reckoning for a curse on hit setup?
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>>164482001
Arctic Armour
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>>164472802
there is no turning back :( i always hit a 6link around 700-1000 , last chest piece i have been trying to 6link i am at over 1300 fusings , and i just keep tossing fuses at it. feel like a fucking retard, but i have passed the point of no return
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>>164476103
ci and vaal pact have never been a problem. a few streamers say it's face roll and reddit is on a crusade to remove ci and vp. go back to your reddit echo chamber
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>>164482826
Without Hatred and Herald, the damage will be even lower?
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>>164483043
now i am 1750 in, no luck yet
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I wasnt able to play the game since breach launched so I'm starting now, league is fun but I just dont know what to go for.
For once I felt like using a new skill ( so BF ) and I quite liked the idea of that gladiator BF with max block, how it is tho ? expensive ?

I'd rather start with a life build but not play EQ.
any suggestion welcome
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>>164482371
Why Ballistic Mastery? Why no Coordination? Why baby attack speed and accuracy with wands nodes instead of Depth Perception? Why Hex Master? Way too low ES % for a DW build which means no shield and using a 250 ES helmet, a lot of damage, not a lot of defenses, in fact what is even the point of CoE if you only get 12% spell damage from tree and a bit from your wands?
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>>164480251
There hasn't been a post but i noticed this aswell
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>>164483386
just get the surrender and you're good to go
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>>164483317
Oh, I meant drop AA
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Trying to remember the name of a program that let you downgrade/ remove graphics from POE for higher FPS.

Anyone know it?
Also anyone actually ever banned using it?
I used it for like 2 months straight 2 years ago and didnt get banned.,
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>>164483386
>how it is tho ?
really good, BF is broken and synergizes well with Gladiator
> expensive ?
you probably want the Surrender and a really good foil end game, which can become expensive, it starts as really cheap though, depending on your league a 1c claw and a garbage rare 1c evasion shield should be enough to start
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>>164483262

>being easily able to have both the most efficient life ceiling, leech and faux regen (shield recharge) and the same time isnt a problem
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>>164483386
The main upside of playing bladeflurry is that you shit out so much dps you can leech so hard you don't need to block anything

Just play whatever bf build has the most views on the forums you'll be facerolling shit in no time ;)
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>>164483771
>you shit out so much dps you can leech so hard
not really how leech works, let alone as a generic Gladiator, but whatever picture works in your simplistic mind where moar damage = moar leech
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>>164483614
poesmoother

iirc no one has been banner over it
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>>164483984
Thanks man, thats it.
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>2017
>still no martial art kick skills
I know that would require an overhaul of character models and animations and is likely to never happen, but damn I miss playing my melee kicksin from D2
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>>164484071
stuff like that and several other shit and tools around should be in the OP

but whoever makes them is strangely puritan about all of that, which makes me suspect is a GGG employee that keeps making these threads
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>>164483386
Get a scourge, cospris armor and surrender
its like 2ex and gives you a shit ton of damage
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>>164484305
>stuff like that and several other shit and tools around should be in the OP

Agreed.
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>>164484305
nigga everyone who makes it just copy pastes the text

just because you mongrels have no organization doesn't mean that it is a ggg conspiracy not to put it in the OP
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why do retards shit on blade flurry for being FOTM when it requires an adequate level of gear, minmaxing and metagaming to make it work?

compare it to any other retard friendly ez mode build and it's head and shoulders above all of them in terms of complexity

>hand of reddit
>niggermayu cyclone
>redditblast
>reddit warchief
>literally anything that uses CI or totems

BF is harder than any of these
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>>164483984
TOo bad its not been updated at all in 2016
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>>164484305
I remember when I was 14 and thought cheating in video games made me cool

It's just a phase, you'll grow out of it
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>>164484597
Latest commit 6a9bb7b 2 days ago @vmv vmv committed on GitHub

you seem like a smart fellow
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>>164484597
You need to check poesmoothers official github.
It gets updated regularly
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>>164484545
>my flavor otm is less cancerous than other flavors otm
Stop, you're embarrassing yourself
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>>164484636

oh yes. feed this false narrative that tools that compensate for SHIT game design poor QoL are somehow cheating

i wonder who would benefit from the community never having proper access to said tools...

thank you for correcting the record, ggg intern
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>>164484597
untrue, it even allows you to reduce particles from breaches and disable shadow and fog from the dx11 client.

>>164484636
>cheating
>reducing particles and disabling cancer shadows because >muh artistic vision and >muh streamers
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>>164483884
>what is vaal pact

You can just sit in shaper's beam while leeching and having 12k es holding rightclick using bladeflurry
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>>164484636
>raising FPS = cheating

Fuck off. I'm using a thinkpad t420 and need all the help I can get.
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>>164484231
>2017
>watching chinese fighting cartoons
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>>164484545
but bf does use CI
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>>164483697
it has never been a problem until a few streamers pointed it out as being op and then reddit jumped on the band wagon, breach didn't help because noobs don't know what the fuck is going on.
>>
I just had probably the hottest RNG streak of my POE life.

Found a Bino's, 2 ex, a divine, and a near-perfect Void Battery within about an hour.
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>>164485195
it has been a problem since ascendancies, which directly buffed CI builds while doing nothing for life builds except for ranger or bserker (who can just go CI anyway if you want)

that none of the streamers you so love mentioned before doesnt change the fact that there has been a huge disparity between CI builds and life builds for a while
>>
How strong is the primordial might pentagolem build? Like, on a scale of 1-Perandus-era Voltaxic sparkler?

I got a few lucky drops and kinda want to try it, but I might just be better off spending my currency on other shit if it's not that good.
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>>164485483
Then explain how CWDT berserker is the best budget per value build right now
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This just in.
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>>164485195
>>164485483
Other anon is correct, traditionally ES had a higher health pool but came at the cost of mitigation. Whereas Life had supplementary defences armour / regen / dodge / leech. The problem is with unique flasks, leech, fortify etc ES can now maintain equivalent defence with life while having higher overall health.
>>
>you know realize that if GGG gave us Dominus' Touch of God skill as a gem, no one would use it because it would be strictly inferior to EQ
>the state of GGG balance team.
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>>164485848
>wasting 2s to wind up a punch
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>>164485924
Well, I assume attack speed and/or reduced duration would speed it up, but still, it only hits once.
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>>164485483
the only real change that made CI appeal to more people was the introduction of more stun immunity gear. before skyforth you need to run either a eye of chayula or get unwavering stance, which was a pain to travel to. if you didn't run eye of chyaula you couldn't play ci, you would get stun locked constantly. you stun is tied to your life, with ci your life pool is around 2500 (it's hidden but you have a life pool that is more than 1 that calculates stuns and freeze duration) which means stun city. what makes ci more appealing now is more ways to deal with stun, and the unbalanced monster damage, there are more dangerous elemental damage mobs than physical. vaal pact is irrelevant because any build can make use of it.
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>>164485848
>fork
>chain
>why not just use an AoE skill taht already does more damage any way and and have even MORE more multipliers instead
>the state of PoE

>stacking multiplicative modifiers is good
>state of poecucks in this thread
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>>164485814

what does an offensive tactic have to do with discussing defensive strategies?

>>164485827

the times of "higher health pool but squish" where when 8k-10k es was considered a lot, and you had no basalt flasks, no aqua, no fucking vinktars or rumi based maxblock witches/shadow/rangers and you did indeed feel not that tanky under sustained damage

>>164486046
this is true. but node for node (including int travel ones), ES builds are simply much cheaper on the tree compared to life ones. add to this the flat ES you get from many ascendancies, CI multiplier, relative abundance of good cheap ES gear on the market compared to life gear, and its all part of a more complex thing
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>>164486046
GGG really just needs to get over the whole "logout macros as a balance component" mentality. Make alt F4ing take 5 seconds to log you out. Then they don't have to make every fucking thing a one shot mechanic and can design around more consistent monster damage rather than spikes.
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>>164486360
This is the source of all problems
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>>164486046
>vaal pact is irrelevant because any build can make use of it.

the problem with VP is that if you plan to leech, you pretty much need it. and its downsides are much more noticeable on life builds since ES builds still have regular recharge
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thanks zana
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it's funny when shitbirds debate HC strategy
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>>164486360
this desu

Make it so you can't ignore boss mechanics by simply having an OP build and you can't log out

Teleporting out should be a viable strategy since you have to either click the portal and then click the portal to escape or put it down and move to it at least


It sucks wanting to play hardcore but logging out being a forced meme just feels so fucking gross and unenjoyable to me

>get into risky situation
>lol me gone xD

there's absolutely no down-side to doing anything risky at all
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>>164486743
its funny when HC players think they're doing anything else than playing a game for entertainment
>>
>>164486237
1 travel point in strength is +2 flat life, 1 travel point of int is 1% es. there is more life on the tree, es has a higher ehp because is doesn't have physical mitigation. the problem isn't CI vs life, the problem is physical damage vs elemental damage. there is no reason anymore to stack phys mitigation , even a granite flask is over kill in most case.
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>>164486914
Granite flask doesnt do shit against actual killer moves
>>
Is PoE fun?
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>>164484891
except we were talking about a life Gladiator build you mongrel, stop changing the topic you autistic illiterate fuck
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>>164487080
no
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>>164487090
Vaalpact isnt limited to ES
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>>164487090
>playing a shit build on purpose for no reason at all when there's already far better builds for the skill you want to use

Enjoy your struggling just to be a snowflake autismoboy
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>"Hi I'd like to buy your x for my y in Breach."
>Autoreply: afk shower and food

JUST FUCKING LOG OUT
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I'm gonna get vaal pact on a slayer
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>>164487387
the api would still take a while to update then you'd just be complaining about "This character is not currently logged in"
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>>164487251
NOT
WHAT
WE
WERE
TALKING
ABOUT

fucking retard, stop being a cancershit and LEARN to read a discussion before butting in like some fucking spastic

>"I'd rather start with a life build"
see >>164483386
>"ok here's some tips"
see >>164483526 >>164483638 >>164484484
>"NO YOU DONT NEED THAT YOU JUST NEED VP LEECH AND 12K ES LOL"
see >>164483771 aka retarded (You)

FUCK
OFF

you're the reason this general is trash
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>>164479601
No
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>>164472875
six-linking is almost trivial since the 20% Q patch. of course you should only link very good armours, and preferably sell when you get 5L
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>>164487387
But what if that guy is a summoner ?
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>>164489348
>six-linking is almost trivial
"i linked an armour once so its easy"
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>>164489485
i used to get a 6L every league before the 20Q patch. admittedly i played softcore and massing currency was easier.
anyway, it's much much much more convenient trying to link yourself and sell the 5L then buying the 6L directly
>>
i mean even before the 20Q patch, then i stopped playing* >>164489675
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Does this work with Energy shield?
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>>164490125
from the wording I get the feeling that it only works if you actually lose life equal to at least 15%, so I'd say no
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>>164490125
a quick google search reveals it doesn't
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>>164490202
>>164490279
Oh my nervermind, I didn't know I could get THIS node instead
Bye bye chayula
>>
Wow I wish I was an expert on this game like you guys
>>
you are all retarded and you should all FUCK
OFF

you're the reason this general is trash
>>
>>164490581
make sure you pack a worm flask or you'll get cucked in long boss fights.

and by long i mean longer than 4 seconds
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Returning player here, just took a look at the gems on the wiki and I see some that triggers when you block. Sounds interesting for a very defensive build, what do you guys think of them? Either for hc or sc
>>
>binos is down to 1c
What happened?
>>
Why didn't I melt when I went into a Chayula breach? I didn't even notice that it was a Chayula breach until afterwards.

I mean I still have -60% chaos.
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>>164491095
Mathil has made 4 new builds since then
It was always overpriced considering a 300pds dagger does the same
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>>164491234
They are like 80% phys 20% chaos so that CI builds arent immune in them
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>>164491234

breaches are only rippy if you get swarmed due to low dps or if the map mods are too bad
>>
>>164491409
Breach are only rippy if they are Esh*
>>
Is hc dead already? Should I bother starting this late into the league or just wait for 3.0?
>>
>>164491095
>>164491259
I can finally play Physical Bflurry now or meme it out with a Lightning crit HoWA Assassin.
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>>164491569
3.0 will start in like september
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>>164491569
most shit is cheap, trade is still active, etc

not as many people are playing in hc as in sc tho
>>
What are some good node clusters to get for bleed+poison
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>>164491956
I thought 3.0 was going to be next league?
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hahahaha
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>try to buy something
>seller ups the price after i whisper him
>then tries to give me something else in the trade window

player interaction was a mistake
>>
>>164492282
the PAID beta/alpha is the next league
The actual release is in 6months
>>
>game connection lost to server
>relog not even 1 minute later
>map portals all erased
what the FUCK
THAT WAS A CORRUPTED VAULT MAP WITH 112% IIQ AND HARMLESS MODS
>>
>>164492925
retard
>>
>>164493107
fuck you nigger i needed that for atlas completion
>>
>>164493158
>completing red maps
just use shaped maps
>>
>>164483462
ballistic cause of projectile dmg ofc, coordination no idea why I didn't tale and Thought That I had enough atk speed and acc.
Hex master cause of dual curse so why not take those. And CoE with 2 wands is atleast 60% more dmg so thought that would be good enough.
From what I saw there is not so many pure spell dmg nodes on tree.
>>
>>164483462
ballistic cause of projectile dmg ofc, coordination no idea why I didn't tale and Thought That I had enough atk speed and acc.
Hex master cause of dual curse so why not take those. And CoE with 2 wands is atleast 60% more dmg so thought that would be good enough.
From what I saw there is not so many pure spell dmg nodes on tree worth taking except the ones in witcher start area and for that the ES is more important
>>
>>164492504
>you will never vaal a headhunter because you either don't care or are so wealthy it doesn't matter
why live
>>
>american primetime
>thread devolves into pure shit
im out
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>tfw fapkin disappears from your room
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>>164491259
do you realize how expensive a 300 pdps dagger is?
>>
>>164493853
>american bedtime
>yuropoor animeposting
>>
will they actually make a paid beta after breach? i don't want to spend months without poe
>>
>>164485630
i have everything but the might jewel and it's pretty great. very laid back build and fun so far for me
>>
>>164495106
you can play standard :^)
>>
>>164495106
when 2.0 came out, they made a special beta paid league for f2p whales and streamers.

if you had placed in the top 100 in the previous league you had an invitation right as it started too. the rest of the population got invited randomly as months passed

i found i had an invite like 2 weeks in, but i was already playing something else so i didnt bother with poe until 2.1 again

so yeah. expect something like that
>>
anyone here reached level cap?
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FUCK
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>>164471120
this one is okay because its my old image but i expect better next time
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>>164495373
i always stop or die between 92-94

if not sooner
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>>164495548
tsun
>>
i bought into awakening beta and would do it again desu
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vendor trash?

I know nothing about evasion, it just seemed like a big number
>>
>>164495487
were you actually playing vortex on a trickster
how is it please be detailed
>>
>Xoph Breach
AFK-tier

>Tul Breach
Annoying chill and some damage but is managable, have to pay attention

>Phys breach
Lmao walls block u in xD

>Chayula
Doesn't exist

>Esh
Damage starts off small but quickly ramps up and never fucking stops

What the fuck happened? Tul used to be a bitch but now Esh fucks my shit in.
>>
>>164471417
There are plenty of women that look like that. You just need to not look like you do to get them types of girls.
>>
>>164496545
it's the orb of storm spitting spiders that launch a dozen of them right under you
you don't even notice them before you're getting stunlocked
if you aren't stun immune or playing cyclone you get fucked
if you're playing a stationary build like WI you get fucked harder
>>
>>164496516
look up affix,suffix tiers than compare your item to other similar items than decide
not that hard
>>
Cast when moving support when?
>>
>>164496545
esh is ONLY annoying because he moves around the room constantly
>>
Elementalist or Necromancer for fire golem build?
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How do I craft this?

Or should I keep going for a better regal?
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uhh neversink are u ok?
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>>164498862
boy do I wish that cast on death would work for minions, even if it would reduce the damage or whatever
>>
>>164499562
What, you've never seen an OFB CF FUSNG before?
>>
>>164499740
I want an orb of funsing
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>i want old cliche Zana VA back
>>
welp, I gave in and bought 200 points

I feel sorta embarrassed and ashamed for supporting this limited to FOUR tabs total across all characters buy tabs goyim jewery but I couldnt take it anymore

fuck
>>
>>164496537
yeah, using it with EE + dual cursing frostbite and ele weakness for very silly boss melting.

using it with frost bolt was too clunky though.

had 28k on tooltip but was not meant to be.
>>
How much is this thing worth? Dropped from cruel Malachai
>>
>>164501102
Not much
>>
>>164501102
1 mirror
>>
>>164501102
1 transmute
>>
>do my first tier 2 map
>THIS drops from a white mob

eziest 40ex of my life
>>
>>164496798
or you could just tell me in the time it took to write that sentence you little faggot
>>
>>164502059
give a man a fish etc.
>>
why is this allowed? it just breaks the game wtf ggg
>>
anyone else plays poe on narcotics and has playing blackouts?

been on tramadol for a week and there are chars i dont remember leveling and ripped chars i dont remember dying on
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>>164503118
I don't even remember installing PoE or making this post.
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:3
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>>164503118
I have similar experience but not on narcostics. send help.
>>
>>164503921
me in the middle desu :3
>>
>>164503921
me the girl on the top-right
>>
why is tul so freakin cute, bros?
>>
the best way to map as a new player is try to complete the whole atlas right?
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>reddit shitters complaining about how hard this challenge is
>I casually get it in a beach while levelling up a new character
>>
>>164504651
because she puts her balls in your face

>>164504736
I'm 1 guardian + 300 tiers away from hitting 39 challenges fuck you
>>
>>164504736
LLRF? how?
>>
what's better for eq
carcass jack or belly of the bitch
or abyssus coil?
>>
>>164505123
I just buy the 6 link astral plate cards. If not go big and get brass dome.
>>
>>164505195
i have a 5l erqi i found i wanna use, so i don't really need a chest with that many links
>>
>>164505728
are you not using an ancestral warchief as well? You want a double 5L/6L unless you're going Kaom's Heart.
>>
Anyone got some tips on playing crit bladefall? Links are BF+Poison+Inc Aoe/Conc+Inc Crit Strikes+Faster Casting+Added Chaos.
>>
>Leveling random character a few days ago
>Two HoTAM drop
>Weird
>Doing maps today
>15% quality Spectral Throw drops

What is GGG trying to convey to me?
>>
>>164504893
money talks, noob
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>>164505821
oh yeah i forgot about that ability
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give it to me straight /pooeg/. am I retarded for having a hard time leveling with energy shields?

ES feels so much weaker than armour or evasion. I've died four times with my goddamn asshole witch, even with a lot of hp and hp nodes.
>>
>>164506194
Stop getting in melee range you chucklefuck.
>>
>>164505821
>>164506135
i have 30 chaos, since i just started playing kinda
is there any cheap alternatives, would bringer of rain be alright to socket warchief in?
>>
me and my buddy are fucking around on standard... we haven't played in forever. is it safe to buy shit from chinese people still we just need a few exalts to exchange for lower crafting materials like chromos and shit or should we just stop being lazy and play the game?
>>
>>164506385
yeah bringer of rain wouldn't be bad, but for a little over twice as much you can get the 6 link astral plate, I'd just save up for that and you can do it 1 card at a time.
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>>164471120
What's her name? The one in the middle.
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>>164506194
>es build
>hp and hp nodes
>>
>>164506194
You're not suppsoed to level as ES based
>>
Am I the only one that is sick and tired of seeing all these dirty third worlders/blatant chinks flipping currency all day long, and then reddit defending them saying they can 'play' the game however they like?
>>
>>164507147
can't level as ci you double nigger
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>>164507147
I'll obviously respec them when I have good enough ES gear

>>164507165
I'll try with armour this time, but the strength req is gonna keep me back after a while
>>
>>164507220
There's nothing wrong with flipping
>>
>>164485630
A friend just made it recently and got fed up with Golem's retarded AI in a couple days.
>>
>>164486067
>since prophecy Reach has been the BIS bow for any build that would otherwise need GMP
>GGG doesn't see any problem with this
>>
>>164507467
hope the ilvl is good so you can recraft that dogshit helm
>>
>>164475440

WTF is this sorcery?
>>
>>164508102
Nah its DPS is too low for most bow builds, a well crafted harbinger is better except for stuff like EA and barrage
>>
>>164508123
It's ilvl 84 but I don't know if I should bother crafting it or just sell it for lower
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>>164475440
>cloak of defiance
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>>164508906
helms are hard to craft. probably better to just sell
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how do i make an EQ build poeg

do i go juggernaut? slayer? champion?
>>
poeurl.com/YMf

ratemy EQ build poeg please
>>
Hey what was that mod to bring back the titties on the UI
Does it still work
>>
>>164509370
go to the forums and copy someone who has done a good build that can either farm fast or kill bosses
>>
you're gonna spend 4 days getting to merc dried lake then die in a tier 6 again why bother shitcat
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>ghosted remnant of corruption quad essence in a t16
>>
>>164478924
>Using ingame mechanics to save your ass sounds fine.
By that logic, I can avoid paying taxes by shooting myself in the head.
>>
please do
>>
>>164510260
Or just don't pay taxes.
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price?

couldnt find anything with the same stats on poetrade
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>>164509906
i'm objectively better than you
>>
>>164511253
1c

The only use for that would be in a crown of eyes wander build and even they don't usually dual wield
>>
>>164504698
that is one way
there are other ways

but generally, you can just go on and complete everything up to (and including) tier 10. the important decision is how to proceed through red maps.

for more information, refer to this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0nr5I8lq-4
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pls rate my helmet, also for enchants should i be doing the highest lab? i dont have uber unlocked yet
>>
>>164485630
It's a very 'relaxed' build. It can clear everything very safely, but there's basically a hard limit to how fast it can go due to minion AI. It's not slow, but it's not quick either. It's like a 5, maybe a 6 if you have super GG gear.

It's absolutely fucks bosses though.
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I dont like asking for price checks but I really know nothing about ranger builds at all

some life, 2 good rolled resists..I have no idea how good the proj speed and ele dmg are though

worth a couple chaos or just vendor trash?
>>
>whats the price of the piece of shit item
>but wait guys i dont usually do this so its okay
FUCK OFF
>>
>>164512116
Exalt it
>>
Really who even plays bows in 2017 I don't know mate

lmao hes mad
>>
>>164513262
i cant i am fuckin broke

had about 1.5 ex (one was a random ex drop) and just did a shit ton of crafting
>>
>>164506194
>>164507518

you can level as ES but not as pure ES
you can wear all ES armor items perfectly fine, but you NEED every piece of armor you equio to have at least two of these affixes:
>life
>+ES
>+%ES
>some resistance

also take a bunch of life nodes and ES nodes along the tree (you can spec out of life nodes after you have the gear to go CI)
>>
>>164512424
prob worth a couple chaos for sure, missing crit rolls though
>>
>>164513569
Why bother doing the crafting game if you don't have a ton of currencies?
>>
>>164512424
Quivers are basically worth nothing since people either use Drillneck, Rearguard, or Signal Fire.
>>
>>164513829
because i enjoy it a lot

i burned through a fucking lot of currency but it was really nice
>>
>>164510260

the shitter who posted the pic doesnt play d3

if xhe did (prolly trans), xhe would realize that there are limited ways to recover life quickly on wizard class and that shield passive is just a buffer that doesnt even do much vs the really hurtful shit, it basically gives you time to run and portal out
>>
>>164514786
What the fuck are you

Fuck off
>>
why is it that to this day, atziri is still the best boss fight that GGG has ever designed?
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>>164515091
because it's not one that you can face tank
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>>164515091
uber izaro is a pretty good fight too
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>Play a Shadow using Fan of Knives move and blasting everything with support gems + element damage, cast speed, etc.
>Go through the entire game in hardcore no problem, die to Dominus because it was the first time I ever fought him and no checking on the wiki
>Still enjoyed the character either way

>Try to play a Fighting character
>Only capable of using shit like glacial hammer and flame totem
>Takes me years to get past submerged passage and the annoying little crustaceans
>Die to shitty low level rift

So are you just supposed to lock in an AoE gem early on and destroy everything and not care about anything else to actually play this game? Any other playstyle seems painfully slow and ineffectual.
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aoeposting is a shit meme
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>it's a breachlord doesn't drop any loot episode
>again
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>>164515534
EK has always been a good levelling skill.

And yeah, single target melee is fucking garbage. Melee splash barely fixes it, the only functional melee skills are basically Flicker Strike and Cyclone.
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>>164515534
>Fan of Knives
>Fighting
uh...
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>>164515534
the "real" melee skills are nearly all awful.

Take a look at Cyclone, ground slam, lacerate etc. Basically what you want is AoE tag or it's probably gonna suck.
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>>164515091
vaal
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>>164515534
>So are you just supposed to lock in an AoE gem early on and destroy everything and not care about anything else to actually play this game?

yes

welcome to poe
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>>164515796
>breachlord drops blessing + good weapon
>mobs on the way to breachlord dropped 2 unique maps, bunch of uniques worth a few chaos
>4 red maps

:)
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>>164515534
>Any other playstyle seems painfully slow and ineffectual.

ITS A D2-LIKE ARPG

SINCE THE DAYS OLDEN DAYS, THERE IS PRETTY MUCH ONLY ONE OBJECTIVELY CORRECT WAY TO PLAY THEM: KILL AS MUCH SHIT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE
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>>164516472
>work for 1 day
>can buy 10 mirrors
( ^∀^)
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>>164516682
>Only one monitor

What a fucking shit setup
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>>164516829
>get banned for trading with known rmt accounts and have to do another day of work

good wageslave! Back to work you go!
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>>164517304
I've been RMTing since Ambush. Hasn't receive a ban yet. Hasn't gotten banned for Poesmoother either. Nice try though d(ï¿£ ï¿£)
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how hard are the breachlords?
so far the hardest bosses i have killed are normal atziri, endgame lab izaro, and map bosses up to T10 without too much of a problem.
am i strong enough to survive the easier breachlords? i have breachstones of esh and xoph but don't know whether i can do them or ´whether they will destroy me
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>>164517604
All face roll including Chayula if you can attack from edge of the screen. If you're melee then I don't know.
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>>164517592
>paying money to cheat in a singleplayer game
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>There is no Honour without Sacrifice
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Poegcucks, you have exactly sixty seconds to respond to this post with proof that GGG does in fact NOT provide loot buffs for whales and streamcancer. If you are unable to provide sufficient evidence against this claim, I will take it as proof that I am right and GGG is a shitty, shady company that deserves bankruptcy.
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>>164517604
yeah you should be fine
focus on clear speed so you dont waste the stone though

early three are fine but uul netol/chayula are no joke
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>>164518018
>claim thing
>PROOVE ME IT'S NOT SO
retard
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>>164517604
>sitting on three breachstones
>none of my builds are ready to face them because my builds suck or i'm too poor to make decent sets good
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>>164517892
>not using every advantage in life for minimal cost
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>>164518074
So you are unable to prove me wrong?
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>>164518306
burden of proof is on you retard, you're the one making the claim
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People actually buy Mud Geyser maps?
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Holy shit that woman at Highgate's door in Aqueducts has great tits.
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>>164518018
I think it's entirely possible. There's only so many times a streamer can 6l in 10 fuses without it making you think
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>>164518043
>focus on clear speed so you dont waste the stone though
when i encounter breaches in maps i regularly clean them up so fast that the breach runs out of monsters, then i run around the edge and kill monsters right as they spawn into the breach

how high is the hp of monsters in the breachlord domains?
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>>164518494
Actually, the burden of proof is on you because you're the one who needs to prove something. I do not.
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>>164518553
Vanja is better
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>>164518819
kys retard
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>>164518791
they are harder
especially so in uul netol and chayula
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>>164518585
Isn't Ziz something like 5000 fuse without a 6L now?
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How's your hideout and achievements progression fellas? Currently at 13 achievements (didnt palm much this league, still first char at lv83 atm).
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>gear sets for popular ""basic"" builds are comfirmed for 3.0

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

PoE is becoming a D3 clone
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>>164519318
Pretty sure Ziz is the game's punching bag.
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>>164519846
Hit me with a source, senpai
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>>164519846
Whats bad about sets?
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>>164519846
>PoE is becoming a D3 clone
if only, we'll at least get a proper AH
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>>164520080
I thought D3 removed AHs and everything is bind on pickup
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>>164520080
an AH would ruin poe and therefore poeg
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>>164520181
poe 3.0 id becoming d3 vanilla
poe 4.0 d3 updated

add an AH, then remove it !
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>literally 0 decent jeweled foils with alright rolled phys dmg+atk speed for sale right now
>the only good rolled ones are laughably overpriced by jews
>Ive been watching for days and the only decent rolled, not kiked price have been for sale by russians who don't respond

this is a joke
>>
I want a mtx for item drops. When a unique drops I want to make it crack the ground. When a mirror drops I want it to sound like God himself has exacted his wrath on the surrounding area.
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>>164520402
Isnt everyone trying to get ele foils
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>>164520402
Is it really overpriced if everything is listed at that price?
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>>164520041
everything
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Would this make scion worth playing

Pretty dumb that a woman meant to do everything has to wait until merc lab to go to ONE starting point
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>>164520284
nothing can be worse than the current status quo

as in trading being basically hijacked by a 3rd party website and of every other trade you do someone wants to scam you
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>>164520932
>still nothing for doing uberlab
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>>164499480
craft someshit on it and slam it, what eles can you do, even if you got a shit tier flat it would still be a sweet chest
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>Atoll boss gets possessed by Warlord spirit

Please help
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>>164520932
It's an improvement I guess, I dislike the whole 3 points to even get something from your ascendancy thing she has going on
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>>164520932
How to fix scion
let her pick 4 different ascendancies
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where do the warlord cards drop
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look at the wiki dumbfuck
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>>164515796
>Read this post
>Attempt Xoph for the first time
>Kill it
>IT IS FUCKING NOTHING
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ez

why were the challenges so casual this league? i struggled to just get 24 in perandus, and barely broke 30 in prophecy and essence.
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>>164519318
People love to watch that faggot fail and cry so yeah, GGG is clever and made sure to cash in on that.
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>>164519486
About to hit Elreon lv8 with the next daily or next one I find in the wild. Everyone else is lv7 and a couple getting close to lv8 as well.

29 challenges done. Slowly working on those corrupted jewels and waiting on RNG bullshit like the unique strongbox.
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if a weapon only has 5 mods that means I can still craft something on it right?
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>>164522724
>tfw got roflngvalds helmet in talisman, portal in poopandus, but fucked up monkey challenges in prophecy
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>>164520402
Buy those merciless weapon div sets and craft your own faggot.

Or just alt an ilvl84 foil.
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>SC ex ratio is down to 66c
?
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>>164523740
Interesting
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>>164523740
>HC ex up to 28c
!
>>
shitcrows get out
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>totem build
>takes 0 totem passives except the ones needed to reach Ancestral Bond
B A L A N C E D
A
L
A
N
C
E
D
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I've got a leveled witch and about 6ex budget, what's a fun build that actually works and isn't just some hipster bullshit?
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>>164524201
RF dodem
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>>164524105
>no totem placement nodes
nice clearspeed NERD
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>>164524069
CRASH IT
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W-What if I didn't want to go through the breach?
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>>164524907
>Normal
Just do it you wimp
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>>164523097
the what now
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>>164524256
Isn't the entire point of putting rf on a totem to make it not take damage with chieftan?
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>>164524634
>flameblast
It's not my build, but still BALANCED.
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>>164521863
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>>164524201
>I've got a leveled witch and about 6ex budget, what's a fun build that actually works and isn't just some hipster bullshit?

flameblast elementalist
wont need all your EX to gear it, just get a doryanis catalyst and an eye of chayula, rest is standard CI gear
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>>164524956
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Jester

THis for example.
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>do merciless lab for points
>get this enchant

its ilvl 84, shame its not the 30%, but could i get much for it?
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>>164528619
Few ex probably
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>>164528619
Dats money right there. Been thinking about a discharge build ( zerker )

poeurl.com/YNG

shit tree boys
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>>164521240
>>164520932

Make Scion have 9 Ascendancy points. 2+2+2+3. Only then will Scion be viable. I mean, there are a few builds, but hell, anything is better than Scion at this point, especially after nerfs.
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>>164523002

>fucked up on Blood Seraph Helmet
>could not be arsed to do Essence properly, fucked up and all i got are footprints and that stupid trophy
>regret even doing Warbands

I just wish sometimes it was possible to re-do that Blood Seraph HC challenge and delete warbands/essence ones. I dont want that junk.
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>>164529404
>finished talisman only getting the boots
>finished perandus with 23 challenges

This is the first time I've actually gone above 24. Aiming for 36 this time around though.
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>Breach in a Beyond map

Dare I?
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>>164530174

>not double beyonding every map for the ultimate breach experience
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>>164530174
They nerfed the amount of beyond things from breach mobs like the first week of the league.
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>>164530258
I'm not rich enough for that yet.

>>164530356
Can you vaal breach to trick a beyond map?
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>>164471573
Too overloaded, try RF and SC totem for supplementary dps
>>
shitcrow totem
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>>164530912
im gona buy a pack and make them put a totem that a big crow pops out and pecks at the monsters
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>>164530174
Sure. It's not absurd 3x screens of dudes after the breach is done since the nerf at the start of the league, but it's still at least 1 beyond boss if not more and lots of loot.

Bring a Vaal DD though. Too many high ladder players have ripped to Bameth because they didn't bother to socket in VDD and proactively clear out corpses
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With 100% atlas completion, can Tier 1 maps never drop?
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>>164531029
Yeah, although outside of maps and related endgame stuff like Uber Lab and Atziri only T1 maps can drop, and those don't get the boost.
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maybe the turdbirds will fuck off if we ask them nicely
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but people have been asking you to leave for a long time
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>>164531487
It moves like a killer, yet reeks of shitposting. Would that I had more time to examine you, Anonymous.
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>>164531029
no
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'chaos' is pronounced chaw-oes
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>>164531029
No, they can drop in merciless difficulty, uber lab, and tier 1 maps
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>>164531825

no

its "caws"
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i made a templar and got to level 9 or something but i dunno what to do for passive points and shit can someone help i'm new
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Guys I have 2 breachstone now and never used one. Is it like a map? How should I prepare for it?
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>>164532432

id suggest to just go blind and figure it out as you play, but if you want some hand holding:

https://www.poebuilds.cc/templar/
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kripp is streaming?!
>>
someone convince me to buy the yeti skin.
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>>164534553
Don't, it's fucking ugly.
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>>164534553
Do it, it's not fucking ugly
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>>164534606

i thought that was the point

>>164534904

it is kinda cute in a pug dog way.
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>>164532616
There's a single breach hand in the start, you see the map of the area entirely and once you start a timer starts ticking down. Killing stuff adds to the timer. You need to keep the timer running until the edge of the breach reaches the portal to the boss.

Don't try doing them if you have any problems with red map breaches.
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>>164535015
alright thanks, I'm actually starting to have some decent amount of red maps now so I'll hold on for now
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I just found a 20% Discharge. I have about 1.5 Ex in currency and a quad tab full of pretty trash uniqes, any suggestions on what I could build here?
Cospri's Malice comes to mind.
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>>164538124
just a cospri's isn't enough to get coc discharge rolling. you need quite a bit more initial investment to get started. A voll's devotion and minumum 5L voll's protector are absolute musts, a pair of insanity gloves is very desirable, you need pretty top of the line ES gear in other slots so you don't die constantly. It's not easy.
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>>164538721
Ok, seeing that it's quite a hefty sum to start with, are there any other options with the Discharge?
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>>164539243
It's no where near as fast as coc discharge but you can self cast discharge with a jugg.
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>>164539243
you could try the spicy new cwc incinerate/romira's. It's about 180c to get a set of the brittle emperor cards so you're an ex or so short but it'd be a good addition.
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>>164538124
Best use of Discharge currently that I've seen is with Scold's+Romira's+Voll's Devotion. Too expensive for your budget, and SC only. Also overkill for a Scold's build.

Anything Discharge can do now, can be done better with Pyre Vortex as far as I'm concerned.
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I didn't realize that setting a tab to public put everything in there on Poetrade, I thought it only puts stuff you priced up haha.

Made me 25c so whatever.
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>>164539243
You should be able to run cospri discharge with 1.5ex. Granted, it's not going to be godlike right off the bat but trickster gives you a lot of leniency in gearing. That will definitely help

Too many people feel like you need GG gear before getting a build off the ground and that's just nonsense.
>>
Does my own cast speed affect my golems?
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>>164540567
Nope.
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I hope you guys are enjoying Ngamahu's while it's good. You just know it's going to get the Mjolner / Cospri's treatment.
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>>164540728
pretty meme item desu
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>>164540530
Yeah I watched some coc cyclone trickster video and I'm pretty sure half of that shit would fly right over my head. Still learning a lot while playing, had my first try at uber lab too.
I'm playing a max block glad atm and thought that something like discharge could be super fast and engaging compared to the block-based play.
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>>164525468
so I buy a ton of these and hope I get a jewelled foil out of all the 1hers?

Im not being ironic, im just asking if this is seriously a viable strat because I would do it if the odds arent like astronomically terrible
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>>164496596
rude
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>>164540728
10% proc rate incoming
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Jesus (((Her))) Mask can drop anywhere.
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>do tul
>120 degree frostbolt shit with good turn rate
>tanky as fuck ice spear pillars
>frost blades adds with retard tier health
>perma ice vortex
>stun stun stun
This must be the "elegant" design that "nick" was talking about.
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>>164542893
>do tul
>face tank everything
>can literally go afk and not die

must be rough
>>
>>164542893

You didn't bring a cold flask did you?

literally 1 flask trivializes that fight.
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>>164543116
not everybody is a tryhard who uses utility flasks
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>>164542893
>swap in conc effect
>throw down v.lighting trap
>one-shot his bitch ass

He's seemed easy to me senpai
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>>164542893
I killed her without using any flask, didn't spawn any adds, didn't get hit by the spray, didn't get chilled nor frozen nor chilled even once. And no, I didn't use Vaal RF to cheese it.
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>>164542461
but it literally only drops in low tier maps. you arent ACTUALLY doing low tier maps are you anon?
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>>164543472
I'm only up to tier 9 friend.
>>
Do you think Tora is a dominatrix or a sub? I could see it going either way.
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>no skill like Vaal Discipline for life

>life flasks
literally not the same thing
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>>164544112
Vaal Vitality soon
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>>164544112
>flasks for evasion and armour
>no flask for energy shield

>vaal discipline
literally not the same thing
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>>164544735
neither is comparing es to armour or evasion because of ci/lowlife
>>
fuck me where has this been all my life

https://poe.fyi
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>>164543852
tora literally means "Bull girl"
>>
>go to normal cruel and merc asking for someone to buy a gem off the vendor for 2 alts
>no one does it

what the flying FUCK is the goddamn fucking point of restricting gems to classes holy fucking piss balls of cunt juice
>>
>Vaal Discipline can only be used in ES builds
stay retarded, poeg
>>
I think they should just let life and ES scale through the roof, and have the real enemies be % damage, 1HKs, and stacking debuffs
>>
Need a new build folks, can you help me out?

The following are the ones I'm feeling like rolling:

Scold's bridle horseshit
cospri's discharge
spooky toss ( not really sold on this )
golemmancer

Except for golemancer these seem to be pretty fucking fun to play and I've got the funds to gear any of the above ( within reason ). Leaning towards cospri's but scold's looks pretty retarded as well.
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>300 chromes on a 3 socket item
>havent gotten red red blue once

how is this possible
>>
>>164546053
Is it like a 200 int wand? Should've used 2 red vorici.
>>
>Energy Shield
>has flat on associate aura
>bigger flat bonus and huge unique benefit on vaal version
>lots of scaling on tree close together

>Evasion
>gains flat from aura
>vaal version offers largely unrelated benefits
>only scaled in two parts of tree and only a small amount

>Armour
>aura is a % bonus instead if flat
>no vaal version
>only scaled in one part of the tree a tiny amount and doesn't even have a scion wheel

nice game poetards
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>>164546007
forgot to mention some bow builds ( TS / LA or some jank with xoph's )
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>>164546157
after a point I was so confused/angry I just kept going out of frustration honestly
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>>164545043
bookmarked, thanks
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>>164546298
"ILL FUCKING SHOW YOU GAME"
>keep spamming chrome
>no desired colors
>repeat cycle

I think we've all been there
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>>164546170
>I understand literally nothing about game design but will parrot things I read on reddit
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>>164546349
or.. you know the wiki
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>>164546469
it's a lot faster than the wiki and direct links to the trade site, I find it extremely useful to me since I do a lot of builds
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>>164546384
Coloring gear is honestly the most miserable experience in the game. At best you get what you need to actually use the piece of gear and don't feel any better about it because it's a hard requirement before you can even use it. A lot of the time it just feels shitty as hell because you're sinking dozens of chaos on a piece of kit you could've spent one or two on and still don't get what you need.
The worst feeling of all though is when you're rolling a unique and get something absurdly rare like 5 off on a shavs, because you know it's worth a ton but selling it will take forever and if you keep rolling it so you can actually use it that's money in the garbage can.
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>$42 for a skin
>When it doesn't even have high res textures or models
>No unique animations
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>>164546007
If your computer can handle it, and you don't mind easily dying from user error, Scold's is the strongest. You only fear getting one-shot with 8k Life+Fortify and user error If you can't die, you'll never lose. Clears maps at move speed.
Only need Scold's+Zerphi's to get rolling, but can be a massive currency sink with 6L Insanity Chest, Hysteria Scepter, Vaaled for CoC Wyrmsign. Dying Sun, and if you so desire, Romira's+Voll's Devotion for overkill damage in exchange for life rolls.
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>>164546923
how do scolds builds get fortify? I thought literally every socket they had was a cwdt - random spell
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>>164547127
Gloves are Wyrmsign. RRBG. Blood Magic, Fortify, AoE, Cyclone. Conc Effect. If Vaal'd for CoC then you have a 6L in your gloves.
The increased mana cost will let your CWDT proc more often.
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>List nice BF jewel
>So many whispers my game crashes

BF cucks, please calm down.
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>>164546170
>energy shield gets on average 6~10% nodes
>evasion gets on average 6% nodes
>armour gets on average 20~40% nodes

Hmm


Hmmmmmmmm
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>>164547258
strength gives scaling hp when?
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>>164547246
But wyrmsign gives reduced mana cost

I thought scolds ran the cyclone proccing shit in a bitterdream for the ridiculous multipliers on it.
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>>164547258
>armour gets on average 20~40% nodes
lol
>>
>>164547258
there's not a single armour node on the tree with more than 30% and most of the nodes are in the 10-15% range.
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>>164547618
You can but the fire burst version I believe has better deeps output. Hysteria wand if you got the shekels otherwise bitterdream
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Sockets in Flasks when?

I would love a Cast on Damage taken for my defensive flasks
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>All 3 defenses have to be exactly similar with similar numbers and work the same way because they're not meant to be layered upon each other but are simply the same but with a different flavour
>>
>>164547618
One of Bitterdream's Gem's is Reduced Mana and the Scepter itself is slow with only a shit implicit for damage.
Wyrmsign+Hysteria Scepter is better in every way. Flame Burst does tons of damage by itself as well.
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>>164547934
stack hp and get 1 shot
stack es and survive every single 1 shot mechanic

seems fair
>>
>>164548045
So stack hp enough not to get one-shot, retard. Maybe it's because you treat the game in such a binary way that you can never create a build of your own, and die with 15k es in 1 second like so many of those rip highlights you see?
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>>164545043
nice
>>
>softcore only build that blows up everything in sight
>can use dying sun to it's fullest potential

perfect 2hu bird build
>>
>>164548164
I'll do that when flat life is implicit on gear m9.
>>
>>164548164
>only way to get close is kaoms+bm

that basically limits you to EA as the only viable build. it would be fine honestly if lowlife/ci was only limited to end game caster shit, but nowadays it costs nothing to roll ci and you can do any attack or caster build you want.
>>
>life build goes out of its way to get as much life as possible using the most efficient nodes possible
>has no damage nodes
>8k-10k life

>ci build passes though es on the tree and grabs maybe three clusters of es and ci
>can use the rest of the points on five entire damage clusters and have spare nodes for utility
>12k es with mid-range gear, 15k es with better gear
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>>164548604
I'm fairly sure I could push 9-10k life fairly easily by respeccing my tree and removing all the extraneous and "useless" defenses nodes such as the shield block or armour/evasion ones. Then I become an average CI build with life flasks to spam but that's neither interesting nor what really helps me end game, save for surviving a volatile to the face, maybe. Life isn't supposed to play catch-up with CI because you're never winning the EHP race. And if you do feel like EHP is everything and the game consists in a series of 10k hits, then uninstall the game because there is no longer a choice presented to you and you will never go anywhere without your 15k ES, 20k with VDiscipline safety net.
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do i go chieftain or juggernaut for slam totems poeg
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>>164549087
zerk
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>>164549087
Ascendant Hierophant Scion for that +1 totem.
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>kripp is playing softcore
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Ascendancies was GGG testing the waters for scrapping the Skill tree for Diablo style trees

You ate it up because you loved that power increase

You signed your own fate
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>>164548474
i wanna be okuu, what're you using?
2x consuming dark and infernal mantle?
sire of shards fireball rolling flames?
how do i blow up maximum shit with fire
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>>164549290
>implying we had a choice in the matter
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>>164549241
Kripp
>gets paid to play video games
>is happily married
>own his own house
>is either liked or a subject of jealousy

(You)
>shitpost for FREE
>is a beta virgin
>live with your mom
>are literally nobody
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Sometimes I wish I was an anime girl
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Sometimes I wish I was never born
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Act 5 is going to be the dragon act, mark my words.
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>>164549974
>>164550027
i know these feels... sometimes... i wish i didn't... :(
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>>164549364
Crit CwC SC+Vortex with the Blackhole skin. Using Pyre for fire conversion.
CI+ZO+RF with enough regen to sustain RF.
Infernal Mantle's %fire makes up for losing some to conversion.
Originally I was using a funky setup to get Frostbolts but Vortex does enough damage that I don't need to play that safe for fodder and just manually cast frostbolt now for bosses or scary situations. Vaal lightning trap->frostbolt->conc eff vortex means a one-shot boss. Sometimes I just run up with Vaal Discipline up and hold right click and it works fine too.
Uses proj, aoe, needs fire res. All three things Dying Sun offers.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1811738
A blast from the past
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>>164542893
How the fuck do you not kill her in like 3 seconds?
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>new player
>anytime someone whispers me to buy a item I listed for sale I get incredibly paranoid that I fucked up and overlooked something when pricing it and am getting scammed

i hate this
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>>164550654
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>>164551173
As long as you don't get a whisper per minute you probably did fine. Just reply with "after map" and if you get spammed while finishing then just change the price.
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>>164551173
Eh, getting "scammed" is part of the learning process, and for a casual player, losing maybe 10% on a sale isn't a big deal, since you're not trying to maximize your profit/hour, simply making enough money to fuel your needs
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>>164548940
This desu. ES is so much better simply because how easy it is to get a decent amount and how high you can push it if you invest on it.

Life is shit because you're heavily limited by your tree and each piece of gear only gets 1 life roll and aside from jewelry they're much lower than what a piece of ES gear can get. That on top of ES nodes having higher %.

Because of how things are balanced, ES builds can afford to wear uniques that don't have ES on them because you can compensate by having high rolls on other pieces or simply grabbing a bit more ES on the tree. Not that you really even need as much as you can get.

Meanwhile Life gets heavily penalized for every extra unique without life you add to the build which leads you having to pick up more life on the tree to compensate which is highly inefficient and often requires a lot of extra pathing to get to.
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>>164549047
I played mostly life for multiple leagues in a row before the oneshots started to get to me. There's only so many times I can stand RIPing a character because I didn't have enough EHP. Sure, player skill is a factor but there's a lot of shit most of us can't plan ahead or react in time for and sometimes it's the lag and performance that fucks you over.

With a CI build I can just get stun immunity, GR and VP and out leech anything that tries to damage me.
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Which sword looks better? Can't decide.

Yes I'm wasting time on this shit because I don't have much else to do.
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whats the best way to gain and sustain endurance charges without casting or using an aura

im currently using ECoS with shield charge but its they usually come off me before i have to put it up again
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>>164551928
The Red Dream
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Do I need to buy the spark spiderlings twice to turn both my vspark and spark into spiders?
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What's your favorite map to run? Personally I love Phantasmagoria.
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>>164551889
both look like tentacle dildos
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>>164552215
yes
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>>164552337
Fucking jews
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>>164552261
High Gardens
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>>164542893
>>164551129
Since I had enough splinters for a stone I thought I'd make a webm for you guys. This build is sleeper op don't tell anyone
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>>164552261
Shaped Strand
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>>164551989
holy fuggggg avenue
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whats in the box
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>>164552790
A piece of shit
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>>164552271
yeah but which one is the better tentacle dildo

>>164552607
Have you tried using CWC Vortex instead? The spell damage double dip shit is kinda ridiculous
Props for actually using the aquamarine flask for cold damage avoidance though most people don't know that even does anything
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how many chaos is a divine worth on standard breach?
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>>164552624
What does that mean?
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>>164552607
>sleeper OP
>was featured on reddit 2 weeks ago
yeah ok
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>>164552947
poe.trade
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>>164552909
>which one is the better tentacle dildo
Witch obviously prefers the curved one.
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>>164552909
>Have you tried using CWC Vortex instead?
SR CWC Vortex? Or using it with a Pyre and the same Chaos conversion setup?

I did try DoubleBF on a zerker before Mathil made his as a Flaskfinder but something felt off about it. Mostly the life pool being too small.

I actually run an Aquamarine on my normal flask setup but it's a nice added bonus in Tul breaches. I like the charge efficiency since I don't have the points to pick up flask nodes.

>>164553112
I've been playing it since like the early second week of the league. The prices of the uniques has gone down and no streamer picked up the build so I'd say it's still sleeper OP.
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>>164549047
>I'm fairly sure I could push 9-10k life fairly easily by respeccing my tree and removing all the extraneous and "useless" defenses nodes such as the shield block or armour/evasion ones.

Yeah sure. Try that on the right side of the tree. Even with 190% life and 70 life rolls on gear you wont get far into the 6k without a belly. Meanwhile i can get like 130% es and the 15% more node end get 9k pretty easily with cheap gear.

This is fucked up. Not to mention vaal discipline which is absolutely retarded bullshit. Also its retarded that the downside of VP doesnt effect energy shield.
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>>164473721
It helps curb inflation in temp leagues
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>>164552790
twyzel
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>>164553536

And continuing on that if you want max life rolls on gear it becomes retardedly expensive. For the same price you get ES gear which in returns easily gets you above 14k es. Fucking stupid.
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>>164549047
>9-10k life
Not without a legacy kaoms heart.
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>>164554131
There's that one fat autist who runs like a full life tree each league and plays only EA and makes videos about his slow runs.
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>>164553536
The argument is whether a life build that should naturally be a life build (i.e. bottom left side) can reach a decent amount of life and compete with ES builds (i.e. top right side) or not in terms of suvivability. There isn't any debate if you start as Witch or Shadow since then the CI or at least hybrid route becomes the natural one and trying to push 6k+ life would become the unnatural and difficult to path option.

190% life and 70 life rolls are on the low side. You could hit 7-7.5k with a Belly, not that this is needed when you're ranged and have dodge. Ranger is perhaps the only class that would struggle to reach a decent amount of life, but they get the option of either going block or dodge fairly easily and that's another layer of defense that isn't reflected in just your hp amount.
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>>164554195
>this somehow means that life builds are fine
>meanwhile everyone else is running 12k ES builds that require barely any invenstemnt and clear all maps in 2 minutes

I also made a life-based maxblock gladiator for shits and giggles becasue I found that thousand teeth shield, but I was fully aware that this build has shitty clearspeed and would end up more fragile than one of the memester ES builds taht can simply facetank everything while oneshottign the whole screen every second.
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>>164554327
>not that this is needed when you're ranged and have dodge.
There's plenty of shit in this game capable of one shotting/instakilling you from 7k.
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>>164554408
>>this somehow means that life builds are fine
No, no it doesn't. I just meant that it's entirely possible to get that much Life. You just won't be getting anything else which seems to be enough for GGG to justify the current state of Life
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>>164554408
>12k ES
>barely any investment
On top of that, getting 12k ES is most likely going to involve discipline which takes up an aura.
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>>164547521
strength gives 2 flat life per travel node, 2 str = +1 life

5 int = 1% es
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>how are your maps how are your maps how are your maps

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH ECCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKSSSSSS DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164554791
dude are you okay
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>>164553030
hm, whats the best choice for charge sustain on bosses then? this jewel is great for packs but not single target.

eduring cry wouldnt work would it?
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Is non-discharge Cospris worth it?

Saw a BOTW episode of some dual Cospris with projectile frost spells and it looked neat.

With the Cospris change, is it worth it to have more than 1 spell socketed in each one? I know they rotate per trigger since they can't trigger on the same attack - but does that mean they have seperate cooldowns? So with enough attack speed you're triggering more than 1 spell per 250ms?
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>people actually believe the layers of defense meme
there's two "layers". There's % resists and health pool. Some builds have a 3rd layer to not take any damage at all 75% of the time or else they don't matter at all.

The only shit that matters is having huge % reduction from capped resists and as much phys reduction as you can get from basalt and endurance charges, then the only defensive stat is health pool.

Armour is trash, evasion is trash, block and dodge are trash unless you're capped.
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>>164554986
Your highest level on BHC?
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>>164554959
Vortex cospri's might still be decent as a bonus chunk of damage if you use cospris for blade flurry, but it's probably strictly inferior to a regular ele or phys blade flurry.

No, cooldown is per proc of the item. I think if you dual wielded cospris it might have separate cooldowns if they're separate skills.
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>>164555103
>playing hardcore on literally invisible enemies league
lol. Had a 97 on EHC though.
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>>164555143
Doesn't Vortex only proc in nearly melee range?

I was thinking Lacerate for main skill to be kind of at medium-long range with Frostbolt/Freeze Pulse
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>>164555219
never talk about game balance to me again until you have a level 100 in hc

case dismissed
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>drop a shavs chest
>6 link a disfavour in 8 fusings
>get another disfavour from The Void
>turn a shit drillneck into a +1 arrow drillneck

been a good league
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>>164554958
For bosses? Enduring Cry. Just remember to push it once every 10 seconds and you're good.
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>>164554828
nothing wrong with me
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whats gear to buy for lacerate slayer if i have fuck all HP, like 3.5k. only thing i wont change is my carcass jack and doomsower...
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ci
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My first BHC character just hit 70 and is poor as fuck. I'm not sure how I'm going to proceed with defense. The original plan was life based with MoM but I'm not sure I'll get the mana pool and regen pieces i need.
Would a hybrid life/es build with ghost rever and vaal pact be better? I already have vaal pact and I'm right near the other keystones.
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ci
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>>164554670
I'd take an aura for life if there was one.
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>>164555749
reddit: the post
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>>164556006
this. Reminder that life builds buy a 200c item that takes up a 6 link just to do what discipline does.
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>>164554690
Let's say an average build get's roughly 400 of their relevant stat.

So a life build in the str area of the tree gets 400 str and an es build gets 400 int on the top right.

400 str would end up as 200 flat life and with a 200% inc life on the tree it would be 600 life.

400 int would end up as 80% es. With a 700 es vaal regalia that's 560 es and that's not counting ANY OTHER PIECE OF GEAR WITH ES ON IT.

Obviously not all builds get this much of these stats. A life build on the bottom right will probably only have around 100 str and my current CI Raider has only 200 int.
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>>164555749
>intentionally gimping your damage with doomsower
why?
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Why are brown girls the best?
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>>164556271
because their sole purpose in existing is for babymaking.
what's the sadpanda?
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>>164556261
whats a better alternative?
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>>164556156
i dont play the game much cunt, i dont know the values that define a good item from a garbage one, like if 70 hp on an amulet is good and what mods make a helmet better or worse
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>>164556354
Literally any high level unique 2hander.
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>>164556421
Too stupid for this game version:
>Does it have high life roll?
>Does it have high resistances?
If yes then it's good.
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>>164556338
g/1013662/337a6f3578/
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>>164554959
>>164555241
Tried it back in Essence. It worked nice for fodder, very safe, fairly quick, but bosses took a bit to kill.

Frostbolt is slow as shit. Use Arctic Breath instead. Have a cold pen linked to the gems in the sword. Make sure to get at least one snakepit ring.

Now that there's less spam it should still work fine, but don't hope to kill a Guardian unless you want to slap them for five solid minutes. Should still be a safe map runner.

Also Lacerate > Blade Flurry. BF's ramping atk speed and burst hits means nothing when you're limited to an internal cooldown. Better to stand farther back.
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>>164556354
if you really want to stick with swords, kondo's pride is less than 1c for good rolls. otherwise kitava's feast is fantastic. If you want style points, Uul Netol's Embrace feels ridiculously satisfying to use if you have your main links in your chest.

Otherwise just go on poe.trade, select two handed axe or sword in the type box at the top, then go down to the pdps box and type in a number and keep increasing it until you're at the top of your price range for a weapon.

If you want style points,
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>>164556527
yes i figured as much but the actual numerical values to search on poetrade seem all over the place.
My initial question should have been more concise yeah should have asked for specific gear types to look for that roll hp and res. or is that relatively random too? like now that im over 70 should i just search for eternal burgonets or?
>>164556757
i suppose this anon just sort of told me how to poe.trade so yeah. ok guys cheers
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On a budget
Hybrid life/es with VP and Ghost Reave
Or
Pure life with MoM
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>>164556704
man that's a disappointment. I can't fap to this shit, her face is straight out of a horror movie. oh well.
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best class for spectral throw? this Scion ST build on the forums could've just said "roll duelist, lol" instead
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>neversink freaks out over a unique shield for the first time, background color I havent seen before
>oh shit finally a unique that isnt completely worthless vendor trash?
>price check it - 1 alch

ebin
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>FIVE FOR ONE
>BUT WHAT IS THE ONE

Is this ever not some trash unique?
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>>164557928
got a skyforth once
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>>164557843
the base probably has a good unique on it but we will never know because you didnt say what unique it was
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>>164556746
Okay 1 more question

Is the "increased crit chance versus chilled targets" on Cospris local, or global?
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I would pay for girls...
Female avatars that is... where only male avatars exist today.

Yeah I know that was a cheap way to make you look at this thread but as a female player I really dislike playing a DUDE. This cuts the best part of POE, the theory crafting, roughly in half. I've tried making a marauder and naming him Large_Marge but I just couldn't fool myself. :P Trying to shoe-horn a Scion into a sub-par tank when what I really want is access to the full marauder ascendancy wasn't satisfactory either.

So seriously, enough with the stash tabs already. If you want me to open my wallet again this is at the top of my wish list.
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>>164558003
chernobyl's nigger shield
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>>164558157
http://poe.trade/search/azusinasaukoho
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>>164557928
i got an eye of chayula out of it
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>>164558080
It doesn't say global, but personally it felt like it was global.
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>>164558003
Kinda stupid the loot filter can't differentiate. I think Neversink's still drops a loud BWAAAAM when a Cameria's Trash drops because it shares the same base as Mjolner. Not that the latter is valuable either, I would edit the filter if I wasn't so lazy
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>>164558080
conditional or variable effects are always global.
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>>164558228
so out of 2 options instead of the 7 exalts shield I got the 1 alch shield

my life is suffering
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>>164558136

Only if I get the opposite. I want a powerful Wizard guy that isn't the edgy witch.

Also I know this post is b8 but to be quite honest I wouldn't have minded if they made the pure strength character a female. At least then it would have balanced out the original classes to be 3-3. Also interesting that all the females would be 'pure' classes and all the males would be hybrids. But you can't please everyone.
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>>164558334
>>164558362
Alright.
Time to scrounge up my chaos for 2 Cospris.
They cost 150 each and I only have 120
>mfw
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>>164558420
Scion is as hybrid as you can get, and Shadow is a twink
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>>164557807
howa raider
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How does anyone stay alive as a spellcaster in this game? How many defensive layers are needed to be able to feel safe in HC?

I have a 6.4k life blood magic crit elementalist with warlord's mark leech, MoM with nearly 2K 'mana' and 5 end charges up, and I STILL feel squishy.
What am I missing? Armour? A more meta build?
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>>164558759
is this bait?
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>>164558807
Why would it be bait
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>>164558759
Nope, that's an issue with your gameplay, not your defenses.
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>>164558759
It's hc, don't get to just sit there and face tank as a caster
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>>164558891
>>164558840
Gotcha, don't get hit to begin with.
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why would anyone use any spells other than fire/cold(with pyre) ignite is insane with double dipping, frost and lightning can't even compete.

miss the good old days when freeze pulse was nuts...
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>>164558830
>elementalist blood magic
>be a witch and be near all of the ES nodes
>path all the fucking way to the opposite side of the tree to BM for no fucking reason
>how can I get more tanky guys
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>>164552607
do you convert fire to chaos? double dagger ?
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>>164559012
Or have a setup that grinds everything to a halt when you take damage.
Cwdt+temp chains+gmp+arctic breath

Whirling blades+fort is also good mobility to get you out of a bad spot
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>>164559065
You should see my other witch build that goes all the way down to duelist projectile nodes. Also that would come under "a more meta build" then I take it
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>>164559245
>wasting points just to travel to an area for your shit build

meta build doesn't mean "not a shit build", there's plenty of non meta builds that actually work and that aren't fucking retarded for no reason. but if you want to do stupid shit with the skill tree then wank about your creativity and uniqueness then be my guest.
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>>164559065
>BM for no fucking reason
He's reserving all of his mana and he gets a buffer with MoM

it might not be a good reason but it's not "no fucking reason"
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>>164556834
Item level is what matters on what the gear can roll.

As a life build the base item doesn't matter that much, but of course a high tier base is better.

Some pieces can roll higher numbers of a certain stat compared to others. For life it's Chest and Helmet that roll higher than the rest.

poeaffix.net
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>>164559471
>>164559379
BM is to avoid infernal mantle's low mana penalty while also letting me use voidbringer for extra crit, plus allowing the ES to remain useful with MoM. I never said it was a good build, I just wanted to know how casters take hits. Apparently the answer is 'go CI' which would require a new build.

Which is fine too.
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>>164559213
Double dagger infernal mantle.
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>>164559643
Why are you using an Infernal mantle though? What spell?
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>>164559793
Magma orb + a 4link flameblast for larger ignites if I need it. +1 to fire gems gives magma orb its 3rd chain at lv21.
There's no specific requirement for the mantle though, I just decided to use and work around it ages ago.
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>>164555389

Are you that same fucking guy?

WHO ARE YOU?!
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>>164555389
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>>164560005
Please, keep describing your build, I've already cum twice from the sheer hipsterness of it. Drain me dry.
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>>164560005
>witch
>life based
>so set on using infernal mantle it goes blood magic
>mind over matter with no mana for literally no benefit
>magma orb primary damage skill with flameblast for single target
Anon, I...
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>>164559643
You realize if you have blood magic, it's actually worse to have MoM right? You have to spend 2 passive points, plus more possibly for travel points, to spec into MoM and then EB so you actually have a pool for MoM to drain from. So now 30% of damage is taken from your ES pool before life. Instead of 100%. Why the fuck? Do you have some weird perk that requires you to not be at full life?
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>>164558759
MoM literally applies to mana, it doesn't give a shit that life is acting as mana. You have to pair it with EB on an ES/Blood Magic hybrid to gain a 30% ablative shield
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>>164560005
>no specific requirement for the mantle though, I just decided to use and work around it ages ago.
Honestly anon I'm impressed by your dedication. I'm actually inspired now to make builds for my favorite uniques of the past.
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>>164561746
>>164561903
I have EB so MoM still works.
You're right on everything else though

>>164561884
If my ES was still on my life, it would never regenerate as I'm always casting.
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so apparently the Mineral Pools map features gigantic dildos protruding from the earth.

The more you know.
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>>164562579
>The C
>You
>Fat
Anon I....
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>>164562638
The C is, in fact, fat.
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whats the point of grinding games if no one likes pvp ? sorry for ignorance i unironically never played any games in the genre
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>>164562579
>>
Whenever people are talking about mapping and efficiency, i always hear them say that they pick up "rare bases" or "high bases" like hubris circlets, vaal regalia, etc. However they never say what they do with them? do they just sell as-is for a couple chaos to crafters? do they craft them themselves? i'm confused
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>>164562750
How do you crank something when the cog is on the same axis as the lever?
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>>164562809
The principle is that higher bases, have higher base stats; es / damage / armour. So they save time by only identifying items that /could/ be GG, instead of getting a driftwood maul with 200% increased damage.
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>>164562809
They're a good way to use your excess of alch/essences. Every once in a while, you get a really good roll and it's essentially profit for no cost involved. Think about it as having extra IIR but only for bases that matter. Sold this one for 17 ex in BHC and all it cost me was 1 alch to craft.
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>>164562919
>>164562960
oh i see, so you get rare ones and ID, or if its white you essence\alch it and if it ends up trash u just vendor and move on

ok cool thanks
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does the search by name function even work on poetrade
why is it even there
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>>164563317
Yes
so you can search for things by name
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>>164563548
By seller name. It doesn't work at all unless I'm missing something
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>>164563697
it does work, but I think you have to use the seller's account name, not their character name.
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I have officially given up on completing this challenge. Fuck this shit.
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>get the fortune teller prohpecy
>white diviners strongbox spawns
>click on it without crafting it while my brain is afk speedrunning through
>2 out of 3 cards dropped are her mask
>mfw
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>>164564225
I'm up to 4 self-flagellations. No other viridian corruptions.
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>>164564358
but the prophecy doesn't spawn a strongbox? There's a special chest it spawns. You didn't even do the prophecy, lmao.
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Do you still die if you Vaal Immortal Call right when Oba's times out?
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>>164564358
the Fortune Teller chest can't be crafted and drops, at most, 3 div cards. So you didn't fuck up. It was created before div boxes were introduced.
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Just slammed some mana and intelligence on this bad-baby. Why can't I ever get hybrid ;;;(((
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>>164564434
>>164564558
i assumed it was a strongbox since it wasnt part of the tileset and i didnt get to read its name
thank you jesus
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>>164564540
try it on shitcore and report results
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>>164564358
that """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""fortune""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" prophecy is the biggest fucking scam and navali is a stupid nigger who can fuck right off with her shitty gambler cards. if you ever get it, you're better off sealing it and selling it to some dumb hopeful fuck who thinks they can utilize the prophecy on spider forest and shrine for ez headhunters but SURPRISE SURPRISE six million fortune chests later all you have is a mountain of gamblers that turn into rains of chaos and a mountain of her masks that turn into sacrifices at dawn. FUCK her and fuck GGG for making me wasste HUNDREDS of chaos on these SHIT PROPHECIES constantly fucking resealing and using them because 99% of the time they dont even pop on the maps i want them to. fucking CUNT
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>>164472981
>mfw 6 linked my shavs yesterday in 200 fuses

I'm not even a streamer
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/follownucl3ar/FantasticWormSeemsGood

>Hardcucks
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How does blade vortex play, you charge up and run around? it would seem annoying to have to keep recasting. Anyone have a good example of BV gameplay
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>>164565137
>>164565456
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>>164565137
umm... I thought CI VP and BF were overpowered?????
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>>164561725
I'm making a frost blades build. Started my templar yesterday
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>>164555389
Why did u drop the shav? Could've at least tried to sell it.
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>>164565456
It is annoying, don't do it.
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>>164565486
That's blade flurry not blade vortex you shitlord
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>>164565456
>it would seem annoying to have to keep recasting.
As opposed to spells you cast once and deal damage once? BV needs one cast then deals damage for 5 seconds, pre-scaling. Do you not understand how good that is?
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>>164565784
Except you don't cast it once, you stand still for eternity to get your stacks. boring shit skill
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>>164565912
Casting once to deal damage for 5 seconds
versus
Casting once to deal damage once

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>164565784
I dumped it on spellcaster of mine and by the time you hit 20 stacks they're basically ready to expire i have no inc dur and shit cast speed though

Having a delay between skill and damage always feels awkward.
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I'm going to respec from ED to BV, does that make me a sellout? Connection has increasingly become worse lately and having to click 5 times to finally cast Contagion is starting to piss me off
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>>164557807
Raider, assassin or pathf.
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>>164566205
There's basically 2 routes you can go:

1) Spell Echo + Crit = massive immediate damage, best leech, gets to 20 stacks easily, but they don't last long, needs Vaal Clarity for pre-stacking

2) No Spell Echo, non or semi-crit poison = slow build-up damage, average leech, gets to 20 stacks slowly but they last long enough (10+ seconds per blade), doesn't really need Vaal Clarity for pre-stacking
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>>164566347
Can you outrun ST projectiles if you have raider tier movespeed, or do they just continually accelerate till they catch you
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>>164566005
What if that one cast explodes the an entire screen at range
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>>164566915
What if we're considering scenarios where fodder doesn't die instantly when you sneeze on them?
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what kind of weapon do you use if you're a templar playing a magical motherfucker build
relatively new player here
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>>164567112
scepters or wands if you're non crit spellcaster
daggers if you're crit (you shouldn't be as a newbie)
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>>164567112
Depends entirely on what kind of magical mf

This game isn't THAT shallow
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>>164567007
Then you cast twice to deal damage twice, this is elementary stuff
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>>164564225
i got that shit with around 35 vaal orbs

not that bad
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>>164567259
arc or freezing pulse i dunno
>>164567189
k
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>>164567280
Good luck finding a spell that deals more damage per cast than 1 cast of BV to maintain 20-stack power
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RIP me, lost a unique loot box because my latency went up to 3k ms upon opening it.
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>>164568316
>loot box
this is poeg not overwatch...
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>arctic armour (kinda meh)
>enfeeble blasphemy
>grace or determination
what other defensive options are there for a cyclone build?
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>>164568896
>what other defensive options are there for a cyclone build?
fortify
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>>164568896
lightning coil still exists
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>>164569049
I already do that, I have that linked to my leap slam
>>164569114
Is it better than a kaom's?
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I just came up with this great 1m dps build with over 10k ehp and tons of armour and evasion (at least 15k each) its sekrit tho heres a sneak peak at lvl 68
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>ehp
lol
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>>164569408
Probably not better than kaoms
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>>164568896
>marauder
>melee
yeah.............. ok
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>>164570641
I'm slayer you faglord
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>loot this from hillock 30 seconds after starting a new character

is the game trying to tell me something?
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epic meme
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am I ready for t8s now?
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>>164571775
Only if you play RF, nothing else is good with a life build.
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>HURRRRRRRR I JUST WANNA SELL FAST
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>>164549401
>own his own house

thats the only impressive thing tbqh

i know very few people around his age that own their home
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>>164571775
That blue is way too small.

I tier 10 with 5.4k life in HC
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>>164572147
buy and resell buddy
stop being triggered
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>>164572147
>mfw I realize I have now at least 42c lying around
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>>164549204
>4L totem
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>>164573179
>what is bor
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>>164564225
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>twice enchanted
>tfw you get your desired enchant on both the boots and gloves on the first try
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Whats a good 1h leveling weapon from lvl 30 on
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Can I skip the normal & cruel labs and just do the merciless one for 6 points?
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Any thoughts on flameblast totems inquisitor vs elementalist ?
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>>164574190
lol
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The one class can double dip
The one class can not double dip
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>>164574256
what if i do merciless 3 times... come on man...
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Just got it from trading a gentleman set
Cool I guess?
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>>164574240
Scion is better than either imho
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>>164574670
It's from beyond league. It's pretty bad. If you could dual wield them like Abaxoth does it'd be pretty good.
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>>164574745
Looks like a pretty good leveling item though. Or it would be, had it no come with only 2 linked sockets
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>>164574240
>totems
inquisitor
>selfcast
elementalist.
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>>164574843
new map
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>>164574240
Bigger crits vs prolif.
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>>164574240
do you want FREE huge crits with massive amounts of FREE penetration, or FREE prolif and FREE ignite ?
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