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Alicesoft/Rance General #576
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Magic Edition

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8EkUMikP
Previous Version of FAQ: http://pastebin.com/SEA97RAu
Read the FAQ before you ask questions.

>Useful Links (More in pastebin)
Wiki: http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/AliceSoftWiki:Main_Page
Alicesoft Image Booru: http://haniho.booru.org/
Rance Game Translation Chart:
http://haniho.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2536
Rance World Notes (Translated): https://mega.nz/#!nRESUJYZ!ZqoypfshkozVBFpeFGI3Oi5xBtU22SjnrnfjIo2SUGY

Check pastebin for FAQs, downloads and General Hints

>Just Released

Rance 5D and Rance VI (English and Decensored) - Released
Orders open at $34.95 for bundle
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1004

>Upcoming Games

Heartful Maman (MILF Eroge) - January 27 2017
Rance X - Announced. Delayed to 2017
Beat Game - Presumably some point in 2017
Two other games by the Evenicle and Rance 03 teams (New IPs)

>Released In Last Year (See FAQ for downloads and info)

June 2016 - Tsumamigui Extra (JAP)
January 2016 - Tsumamigui 3 (JAP)
August 2015 - Rance 03 (JAP)

>Current Events
Rance 5D and Rance VI Polls
Rance Birthday Drawfag Weekend (7th of Jan) - Draw your best Rance

Remember to use spoilertags when discussing and posting images of plot elements, especially those of untranslated Rance games. Ignore and report any blatant shitposting, including nameshit.
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>>164421690
If you're in post game just talk to Tamenegi, they'll tell you who you're missing.
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Aside from Kanami, which girl would you bully?
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>>164422060
Magic, I want to tease her about her major forehead.
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>>164422060
Kouhime but not too much
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>>164422060
Sanakia

She looks like the best bullying target after Kanami.
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Tillday
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>>164422060
Sanakia and Satella.
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>>164421690
Confirmed, Snake Lady. Can't remember exactly where she is.
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>>164422060
Sachiko
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>>164422060
Sanakia or Lia.
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>>164422541
Yeah I checked and it's her. I have no idea where she is though. Maybe she'll show up after I punch Albert's face in.
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>>164422902
All the gal monsters are in the female prison in the postgame.
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I hope Bird will get another girlfriend stolen in X
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>>164423931
>Implying Bird won't become the Demon King
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>>164423998
>implying he won't just become /r9k/ from having all women he's met stolen
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>>164423998
Bird was actually Ludo the whole time, it's going to be the twist of the century
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>>164422060
Pastel and Feliss
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So how many people left are there who actually want to vote on the polls?

Feels like pretty much everyone has voted
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>>164423998
>Bird becomes demon king
>Rance still beats him
>Bird cries
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>>164423998
I'm surprised Bird could even still be alive after what happens to him in Sengoku.
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How do I get Rizna's FR to 30? I'm currently in the post game.
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>>164425007
Either give her presents or do the event where she has tea with Ghandi.
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>>164425007
if it's capped at 25 you might have to do the anal event a few times
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>>164425007
Did you get her to graduate?
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>>164424403
Depending on how many people are left I might call it this thread or in the next.
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>>164424403
I'll vote before this thread is over then, I'm inches away from starting postgame, can't imagine that will change too many opinions.
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>>164427275
Thanks
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It just occured to me

What does the party do while Rance is fucking some woman in the middle of the mission.

Do they watch him or something?
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>>164427535
Basically until they leave the room.
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>>164427535
Shuffle awkwardly and try not to make eye contact I guess
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>>164424403
I'm almost finished.
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>>164427535
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>>164424403
There's still people who hasn't beat it. Give it time man, like one or two more weeks. It's a long game.
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>>164427993
Doesn't the purple one come back in IX?
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>>164428186
Yes.
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>>164428186
Yes, she's a major character.
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>>164427535
Kanami also watches him in his room as well

>>164428562
If by major you mean irrelevant
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>>164428965
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Could any of you kind anons post the link for Rance VI mega? I talked a lot about it with my bro and he would like to try it, but I havent saved the link.
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>>164429120
Yet she masturbated when Rance was fucking Menad next to her
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Not sure I like how they translated Abert's "Heee" as in helm into "huh", but I can see it going over the English readers heads.
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>>164428965
She's Kanami's onee-chan. She's very important.
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>>164429251
ance VI Link: https://mega.nz/#F!yccGjCQY!PcbrdbrzTWEnZ87qQnTqhw
Password is a Helman girl with a rape baby
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>>164429328
I prefer the Kakusai theory to be honest
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>>164429251
https://mega.nz/#F!yccGjCQY!PcbrdbrzTWEnZ87qQnTqhw
Password is Anasel.
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How do you guys capture the thief monster girl?
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Reminder that Kanami has a one in a hundred years talent.
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>>164429639
Paralysis.
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>>164429464
>>164429342

Thanks a lot
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Would Sieg have won if he had transformed into Sillbarrel?
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>>164430079
He'd have killed everyone in the room instantly
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>>164430079
No. Rance would have tried to murder him even harder.

He would have survived if he transformed into a hot girl though
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>>164430314
Then why is Rance defeated instantly by her lookalikes in Quest?
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Is it possible to push Tamanegi's level cap? Also when can i fuck Copadon she's been stuck in lvl 27 since forever
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>>164430551
Copandon is not worth investing in because she'll leave your party for end game
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>>164430079
Does Sillbarel have level 3 ugliness?
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>>164425313
Thanks
I did it twice then stopped caring when it seemed to not lead to anything.
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>>164430551
Yes, in the Disposal Dungeon, but by that point it's unlikely to be worth it.
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>>164430687
>>164431581
Thanks comrades
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Is there anything better than A weapons?
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I still do not get why kanami killed that kid at the disposal dungeon
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In VI is Lil' Avenger worth using?
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>>164430687
Wrong.
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>>164432053
Yes. Several characters have S rank weapons, but there are tasks, etc. you have to do before they unlock.
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>>164432051
It's the kid that got her arrested
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>>164432264
So invest into armour on Rance, Sil, and so on?
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>>164432051
I don't even remember her killing anyone.

>>164432053
Just don't do the event where she leaves your party for good if you want to use her.
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>>164432051
He is an informant for the Zeth army and sold her out which is why she is in prison.
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How does Lia's skill for doubling charisma from quests work in Quest? Does she need to start or finish the quest or does she only need to take part of it at some point? If I just put her for a while and then draw her out will I still get it?
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Is Hanny King in VI grindable or good exp source?
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>>164432836
be in the party at the end of the quest
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I want to bully kanami
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>>164433017
no
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>I dunno know
Come on, Kaloria. I would expect this sort of thing from Athena 2.0, not you.
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>>164434181
Why did Caloria stay with Rance? it's a bit weird that it's just said as an afterthought that she doesn't join the guards in the exodus. I can understand why she did given one of her events but it's still weird the game doesn't address it.
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>>164435078
Rance is her connection to the thing. She is there because of Rance is and nothing else
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I accidentally had autoskip on in the first tower with the mana battery.

What's with all these signs talking about an elevator? Where the fuck is the elevator? I'm so lost
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>>164435178
I know that, and I also believe Caloria wouldn't leave Rance sine he's the first to accept her, it's just weird it's never said in game.
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>>164435380
The elevator is irrelevant I believe. The main thing to remember is that you can only pass through the blue barriers with Magic units.
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>>164435621
Oh ok cool. I got really confused and was looking for the elevator.
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>>164435971
>>164435621
Don't forget to add your non-mages back to the party after passing through the blue barriers.
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>>164431096
She would if that were a skill level.
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>A left-leaning MV station.
What does that mean in this context?
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This might get downvoted but I think Sengoku Rance is better than Rance VI
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>>164437629

>downvoted
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>>164437423
MV = TV station and is magicvision IIRC.
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>Decide to replay Sengoku since I finished VI.
>Opening cinamatic plays
>2006
>It has now been 11 years since it has been released.
>Rance quest is still untranslated.
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>>164438029

But we've gotten like 7 translated alicesoft games since then.
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am i fucking retarded or what send help
i put the shit 0 1 1 and it doesent do anything
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>>164438298


On-Off-On
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>>164438298
>Base 2
>011
>5
Anon...
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>>164438298
>am i fucking retarded or what
yes. Use base 2.
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>>164438298
haha binary base 2 oh man im retarded might aswell off ymself
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Fuck You
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>about to fuck up all of zeth
>only 50% done the game
:thinking:
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>>164438979
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Is there some sort of map resource? I am so lost right now
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>>164435460
She looks and acts like a kid, so guards didn't probably give a second thought to her hanging out at orphanage.
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>>164432836
Either put her in for the final Green Event, or switch her in before delivering the killing blow to the boss of the quest.
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How many times do i have to kill the red/blue/black hanny(room locked with blue/red keys) to unlock Rizna's S weapon
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>>164440895
Equal amount of times. If you inspect the sign outside the houses, you'll see how many times each house has been exterminated.
The kills persist between visits, so you don't have to kill all of them in the same run. When the kills reach equal number, pathway will open.
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>>164439829
Where you at?
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I enjoyed Rance and Beat Blades. What other games by Alicesoft is worthwhile?
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>>164441486
Most of them
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>>164441486
Toushin Toshi 1&2
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>>164441162
Not sure what I'm missing. all of them are set to 1. Should i kill them more?
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>>164441787
It's a little weird. I think after you kill a group of the hannies, it checks if all the kill counts are equal. So if you go into the map with the counts already equal, you'll have to kill them all again to make it count.
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Anyone else really really like Kayblis? He's my third favorite male Rance character and probably fifth overall.
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>>164441787
The only thing I can think of is whether or not you kill the random encounters of colored hannies. I only noticed the path opening after I killed the ones in the houses twice though.
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So how the fuck am I supposed to kill those 2 machines in the bottom of Magic's tower? They kill literally everyone in two hits even with the resistance bonuses..
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you dont.

run away

Can OP put this shit into the FAQ
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>>164442260
You don't, you have to retreat.
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>>164442203

His personality in Kichikuou was great.
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Why doenst ludo kill rance
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>>164442536
Because he finds the chaos Rance causes to be funny
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>>164442536
Because for the most part he's harmless entertainment.
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>>164442536
Because Rance hasn't pissed off Ludo enough for him to do so
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>>164437423
It's a magicvision station

Don't know what significance the leaning has though
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MAGIC THE GANDHI IS SUCH A SLUT REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164443869
t. Alex
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>>164442536
It'll happen at the end of X.
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>Emi has literally no Skills.

Useless girl only good for getting off from being raped.
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>>164444640
Just as she wants
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Magic da gandhi is fucking moron
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ghandi is only level2 ? thought he would at least be 3 to be king
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>>164445482
It's a kingdom, it's decided by blood. Also Super Gandhi is a very strong level 2
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>>164445482
Level 2 is still really good. Rick and Kenshin are level 2 sword and they're some of the strongest warriors on the continent

You think Annis would make a good Queen just because of her magic level?
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are devils the same as fiends?
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>>164445482
A level 3 Skill is "holy shit what the fuck" tier. You don't see many of those.
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>>164444640
In Quest she has a skill which makes her more likely to be hit that other party members and also gains HP everytime she faints
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So what exactly happened with Lil Avenger in VI?
At the end of her events, she says she won't ever kill Rance and just to play dead if she attacks him, then she goes into a chest and it goes back to Bird and Copa opening her up in 5D. Did the Genbu dimension make her go back in time or something and that's why she lets Rance off the hook when he plays dead in 5D?
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>>164446746
Demons=fiends
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Man, system goddess in IV is way cuter than she is in VI.
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>>164447851
Yes
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>>164424403
I'm retarded but I finished the games, where do I vote.
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>>164448843
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdteXi3YSqolYkuaibY5pVY8AOrMrGXE8c6lfLKrwmYn9zgEA/formResponse
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>>164442203
I really want him to get to fuck his waifu
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Anyone got cheat? Can't be bothered playing the rest the legit way. I'm pretty sure there's this thing called spoilerai or something
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>>164448965
When you gonna post the results?
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>>164449453
When the poll finishes off.

Responses and the thread speed itself have really tapered off. Might wait for a couple of anons but at the moment there is a good chance I'll close it after this thread
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What do I do if 5D doesn't work?
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>>164441486
I'd also recommend Big Bang Age, it's an awesome game that bears a lot of similarites to Sengoku Rance, and a must play for those wanting more fully translated Alicesoft Games.
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>>164449610
If there's something strange with your games
Who you gonna call? SLC!
If there's something weird and it don't look good
Who you gonna call? SLC!
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>>164449948
How is salt lake city going to make the game work
When I push new game it just gives me two japanese pop up boxes and then sits there doing nothing
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>>164441486
Not actually Alicesoft games, but Bunny Black from Softhouse Chara and Kamidori from Eushully are fun too.
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>>164449610
screenshot of the issue?
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>>164448965
Done.
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>>164450001
Do you have the game set in Read-Only Drive? At the start of the game it attempts to make new auto-save, but read-only would prevent that.
Japanese pop-up when that happens seems to be common, seems it never came up in testing.
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>>164450001
Windows 10? You probably have it set to read only.

Also SLC is debugger for 5D and VI. He and Pi-R lurk on occasion.
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>>164450142
Didn't even notice the folder was set to read only. Thanks.
>>164450273
8.1, but yeah that was the issue.
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>>164442536
Because either:
A) He is unaware of Rance's existence
or
B) He finds Rance's antics amusing.
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>>164450485
Confirmed to be the latter.
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I've heard people say the Shizuka sex scene in 03 is really good. Can someone translate it like they did the Kanami camshow?
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>>164438298
I like how this puzzle is impossible to solve without outside knowledge and whats behind it is an idea that lets you get what's pretty much a gold star for working hard.
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Is there any missable CGs in VI? For example, one of the [Crowns getting killed] dont remember if its Zulki or Hassam. Im currently at Maginot and would like to screw over and restart if theres any that ive missed.
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>>164451085
You can get the missable stuff in post game.

The crowns are plot event characters in the prison mission
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>>164450790
Ask Kanami anon. He did the camshow one. Not sure he's here though.
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>>164450790
I don't think they did the camshow for the porn, but because it was prime Kanami bullying.
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Q: Help, I'm too retarded to know 5 in binary.
A: It's 101, you dimwit.

Q: Two giant robots in the Magic tower are wrecking my shit. How do I beat them?
A: You don't.

What else is there?
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>>164451592
Avatar
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>>164451592
>you don't
You do, but it's pointless.
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>>164451592

the carrot girl in Pay's tower
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>>164451592
q: stuck in jump tower, what to do
a: check the illusion wall next to papaya elevator
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>>164451592
How do I beat the avatar?

Where can I get orbs?

What characters do I keep in postgame?

Help, I keep falling down these pitfalls in pentagon's base!

I'm sure there's others I'm missing but I've seen those a lot. Chuck some answers into a VI FAQ and stick it in the OP I guess
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>>164451592
>>164451592
I've asked 3 of these questions.

Mad?
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Half of this shit is already explained in the wiki's FAQ.
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So where will Rance X be set?
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>>164450790
What is this Kanami camshow?
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How many FR bonuses should I use for Maria's Support Fire skill?
I upped it once and she support fires almost every other attack
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>>164452445
In Rance 03

check the pastebin in the OP

They replaced the scene where she has to fuck devils to pass through the devil passage to a scene where she has to camwhore
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>>164452585
Thanks
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>>164452462
With two upgrades it's about 80-90% activation. So you can basically rely on her following up an attack.
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>>164452585
>has to fuck devils to pass through the devil passage
wat, thats disgusting
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>>164452687
I'm glad Maria is a beast in this game she was always one of my favorite Rance girls
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Q: Help, I'm too retarded to google 5 in binary.
A: It's 101, you dimwit.

Q: Two giant robots in the Magic tower are wrecking my shit. How do I beat them?
A: You don't.

Q: I'm stuck in jump tower. Where do I go?
A: Illusion wall next to the elevator. Illusion walls still show up as passages on your minimap.

Q: Help, I keep falling down these pitfalls in pentagon base!
A: Look at the ceiling, it's a pit if the light is off.

Q: What characters do I keep in the postgame?
A: Everyone except Urza, Alex, Rick and Ghandi.

Have no clue who avatar is and why people are having so much trouble with him, so you can write that one.
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>>164452858
Which is why it was retconned
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Tfw Maria is finally useful with support shot. Makes killing those red cloud and star enemies easier
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>>164452875
Boss on the first trip to the graveyard, looks a bit like a Okayu Fever from what I remember

He's guarded by one of those ninja flippers so people have some difficulty cancelling his charge move
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>>164452875
Q: How do I beat the Avatar?
Use Megadeth and Cessna's State Cancel to destroy his charge attack. Aim all your attacks at the Avatar, they will go through or beat down the Wall ninja. Multi-hit attacks will not be blocked by the Wall ninja. It helps if you do the starred mission that appears at the same time as this mission before fighting this boss.
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>urza only joins you like 2 missions
>hardly any dialogue after 2nd half of the game
>attitude problem

Fuck I hate her, she turned into such a cunt
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>>164452875
Rewording to make the answers more clear and to prevent more questions; as well as answering some more:

Q: At the Third Test Site, there's a door asking for the value of 5.
A: It's 1 0 1; It's binary

Q: Two giant robots in the Magic tower are wrecking my shit. How do I beat them?
A: It's a fight you're not actually suppose to fight. Either run away with Rance, Rocky or Copandon or don't fight it. All you get is some exp for winning, but the event stays

Q: I'm stuck in jump tower. Where do I go?
A: If you haven't gone up the elevator requiring a password yet, there is an Illusion wall next to the elevator. Illusion walls still show up as passages on your minimap. After that look in the rooms above for two events, then go back to the hidden room.

Q: Help, I keep falling down these pitfalls in pentagon base!
A: Look at the ceiling, it's a pit if the light is off.

Q: What characters do I keep in the postgame?
A: Everyone except Urza, Alex, Rick and Ghandi. They all keep their items so beware giving them anything.

Q:How do I beat the Avatar?
A: If you have done the starred museum before, use the mage you get from there; otherwise use characters with row attacks like Rocky and Rizna or magic attacks like Tamenegi or Sill to beat him. Cessna and Megadeth can use Status cancel, which has a higher chance of breaking concentration.

Q: How do I get past Magic?
A: You have to beat Papaya's tower first, then the adaject room to her event should unlock. You'll know because the game plays an event before you get to the door if that's the case.

Q: How do I get X item?
A: Items randomly drop for the most part; so if you're looking for a specific one you don't have much choice but to either play the Crab orb lottery at base or make sure to collect every chest you can.
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Rance is a tactical genius
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>>164453693
Q:Help I'm missing X monster girl! Am I fucked?
A: All monster girls appear in a post game dungeon. If you miss any you can get them there.

Q: Where do I get orbs?
A: Run nearby forest or Italia early on. Later on, once you can handle the entire nearby forest you can run the whole thing for 50 points or more. Running 40 points is very easy and quick, giving 2 crab (red), 2 monkey (yellow) and 1 eagle orb (blue).

Q: Who do I give presents to?
A: Make a point of giving them to Prima. She has only 2 friendship events and getting her to 15 lets you remove the charge on healing. This is probably the single best use for them early on. Afterward you can use them to boost characters or just to be able to bring them to dungeons.

Q: How do egg items work? Can I replace existing ones I put on weapons?
A: You drag them to your weapons and they permanently upgrade them. How much depends on size, small being the weakest upgrade and large being the strongest upgrade. You can upgrade a weapon twice, and only twice. If it's their final tier items (S, A) and you care about min-maxing, save upgrading until you get large eggs.

Q: How do I raise level cap?
A: Rocky has special events, Bernard can be raised by spending 3 sand lances, all the girls by H'ing them and everyone else can be raised by going to the Disposal Dungeon and at the bottom path going left, then left again.

Q: Help I can't beat the generals!
A: Use characters with stuns and try to stun them. If you can't kill them, just try to stall since most of these fights are timed.

Q: Are the poisoned items worth using?
A: Use them early on if you want, as some characters hit an early cap but towards the middle and end of the game save them for later. You don't need to use them at all though, so don't feel like you have to. Levels are more important than the stats it gives.
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>>164453037
Did this girl in the cemetery quest really did nothing wrong ?
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>>164454794
Anokia dindu nuthin
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>>164454794
Ghost pussy.
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>>164454794
>queen of moemoe

is this a meme
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>>164455380
There is a knight of moemoe as well
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>>164454496
Q: Help! I can't get into this area!
A: Generally speaking, most locked content requires a later mission. You'll be back.

Q:How do I get into the bar in Italia?
A: You need Caloria in your party; enter the house with the little kids almost directly opposite to get the code.

Q: How do I get behind the door in the Abandoned Mine?
A: Post game event tied to a certain Prince.

Q: How do I get behind the door in the Bug People dungeon?
A: Get all the monster girls

Q: Help! What is the V2 Vevetar?
A: It's a post game fight that's tied to a specific stat, you don't have to fight it. All it gives is a red coupon.

Q: What does the Cardboard Cut out do?
Q: What does make Rance a better person upgrade do?
Q:What does ?% boob stronger upgrade do?
A: They do nothing and are just jokes.

Q:What should I spend my coupons on?
A: Eagle orbs or Presents

Q: How does the swamp work? I can't figure out how to progress
A: The swamp bridges change every battle, and carry over between visits. Once you enter the mansion all the bridges raised.

Q: How should I upgrade my characters?
A: Most characters you can upgrade whatever you want, but generally speaking it's always worth removing charge time on attacks, and anything that adds stun to an attack. Characters with really low SP counts like -a- point or two. You're free to grab whatever, the only shit upgrade really is EXP.

Q:Help I fell into a trap at the museum and can't leave!
A: You should be able to clear that part of the dungeon once you hit around late 20's and early 30's.

All I can think of for now. I haven't done Calculator Cube yet, and don't have all the S rank weapons yet so someone else can answer those or I can at a later date. Probably a good idea to reorganize the questions too.
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>>164455524
Q: How do I get behind the door in the Bug People dungeon?
A: Get all the monster girls

You need to get Tamanegi's FR level to max too for the event to appear.
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>>164449594
Well, nuts, currently at the part where Pentagon is doing terror acts, so I have no chance of participating in the polls in that case.

Especially with the general's new speed.
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>>164455662
Oh my bad. Make sure whoever puts that in a faq uses your updated point then.
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>>164455662
What's behind the door?

I'm too lazy to catch all the galmons, total pain in the ass
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>>164455991
An optional character.
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>>164455748
I'll put things in the pastebin for the next OP. May as well put up a download link now anyway.

Continue suggesting changes to the FAQ and I'll make the pastebin

>>164455740
Unfortunately holding it open too long just seems like it is encouraging double votes.. There has been over 60 votes now and that is a lot for this general.
Seems like there isn't really a need to wait possibly a week for 1-2 extra votes
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>>164455991
Lil Avenger
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>>164456190
No, you get Lil' Avenger through Rocky's FR30 event.
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>>164455991
Some robot that runs on semen.
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>>164456161
I thought of two more you can add:

Q: How do I capture monster girls?
A: Rance and Tamenegi can both capture them. It's tied to their remaining health and the captor's level. If you're struggling to catch something, you're probably just under leveled for it.

Q: Why can't I catch the Lucky Kyan Kyan?
A: All the variant monster girls don't count as monster girls required to capture. So Master Gecko, Wasp girl and others don't count and can't be caught.
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What's the Hanny castle key for?
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>>164457061
when you fight hanny king later, you see the place in the sky where you cant travel
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>>164456563
>Kyan Kyan

It's Can Can in the MG translation.
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>Maginot Line full of poison floors and pits

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164457563
I had to disable monster encounters for last missions cause I was starting to hate the game
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Must be a nice place
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>>164458794
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>Level 2 Magic
>Getting challenged by Eropicha
For someone who studies all day, she must not be working hard enough if Eropicha is a legitimate rival to her. Or maybe Eropicha is just that good.
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>>164459747
Eropicha is a better person than Magic
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>>164459790
That's fairly obvious. But you think Magic could at least hold on to the only thing that makes her superb. She's being bested by someone whose Level can only go up to 4.
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>>164459747
Your magic skill level won't help you at all for your written tests in school.
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>>164457246
Sorry force of habit.
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>Beating up a bunch of school girls
This seems very excessive.
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>>164460096
They could stop resisting any moment~
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>>164458794
I like how the text is all red and creepy. Probably written with blood of dead orphans.
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>>164451053
>I like how this puzzle is impossible to solve without outside knowledge
It can be done with trial and error, or just using your fucking brain.
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>>164451592
>>164452875
>>164453693
Don't forget the V2 guy in the forest.
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>>164461060

>>164455524
>>164454496
I covered it in the other posts.
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>>164460987
Bruteforcing all possible combinations wouldn't really be solving the puzzle
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>>164460987
>>164461141
There is a hint board in the dungeon which basically gives it away that it is binary by writing out 1, 2 and 3 in binary
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anybody know the requirements for Rizna's S rank weapon?
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>>164461141
Well if you can't figure out the trend from the hint, or the other hint about it being binary then brute forcing a 7 possible combination answer is all you really can do. It's also more of a solution than asking for the solution, since it requires more effort than the latter.
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Which translated Rance games are worth playing after 6 and SR? I heard KR is great, arguably the best? How about 3 and 4?
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>>164461518
III and IV are pretty old. I enjoyed them and they're pretty short games but take into account the age.

III in particular is very plot relevant.

Kichikuou Rance is great.
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How do I beat gunagan
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>>164461362
That bruteforcing it is nearly as easy as the puzzle itself doesn't change that you wouldn't really solve the puzzle that way.
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>>164451053
>>164460987
Honestly, looking at this puzzle, I think they give a lot of hints. The sign outside tells you its in Base 2, and the other sign shows how Base 2 works.

It shouldn't be that hard to figure out how to make 5 from the two signs.
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>>164461702
Process of elimination is a method of solution; even if it is potentially an inefficient one.
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Anonymous HackerS ?
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I'm sorry anon. I can't accept Kaoru and Maria as votes for favourite Rance 5D girl
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>>164462692
gay
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was tetaka a responsible neesan to kanami?
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>>164461643
>III and IV are pretty old. I enjoyed them and they're pretty short games but take into account the age.
Isn't III like 10 hours and IV like 30?
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>>164463267
IV definitely isn't 30.
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Why do people hate 5D
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>>164463267
>some people beat IV in 30 hours
>others beat VI in 30 hours
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>>164463307
Because they are bad at videogames.
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>>164455524
>V2 Vevetar?
>A: It's a post game fight that's tied to a specific stat
What do you mean by tied to a stat? I just wailed on it until it died. Patton's Impact Fist, Rance Attack, etc. and the occasional stun.
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HOW TO CAPTURE THIS MONSTERGIRL

FUUUUUUCK THEY KEEP MISSING
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>>164463696
You can't capture them.
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>>164463696
You can't capture monster girls that are just variations of a monster girl.
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>>164463719
>>164463724
thanks didnt know
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Finally I can move on and finally understood the context of this
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Lia is such a charitable person
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>>164456161
>holding it open too long just seems like it is encouraging double votes
Hadn't thought that would be an issue, sorry for taking so long then. My vote is in, and I'll be floored if it's even close to the way anyone else voted.
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RANCE 10 FUCKING WHEN
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Does the priest in the autumn forest have any event associated with him other than the default "have nothing to talk about"?
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Without spoilering anything, is there any bad ends in VI and ryona/gore?
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>>164463651
It's appearance is tied to a specific number of something you've done. I believe it's events, or H events. There's like 3 as far as I can tell. Another one is tied to number of battles total and I'm not sure about the last one.
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>>164465230
Not bad ends but there are a few scenes like that.
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>>164465230
No bad ends though some characters don't end up well.

No gore.

>>164464970
Take Sel to see him

>>164464261
Thanks. I'd like to close things up quickly and you were one of few who said they were waiting.

We have 70 votes now which is already pushing the upper limits of what I expect (especially with a whole bunch in the last six hours or so) so I guess I'll start counting the results now and unless anyone asks for an extension announce the results in four hours or so
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>>164465401
>>164465471

Damn, games like this deserve bad ends for the characters. Would be a masterpiece.
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>>164465545
IX has the heroine bad ends.

A lot of characters suffer in VI but its canon
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>>164465632

Love games that have bad ends for the heroines that are optional.

I hate games that have main story bad ends because I don't have any control. Games do it right when I control whether they suffer or not based on protecting them or saving them or whatever.

Oh well, not gonna expect everything fit exactly what I want.
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>>164465742
VI is the latter case, though not so much an ending as the character's relevance ending. Majority of the characters leave on a positive note, but a few do suffer some primo pain and misery.
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>>164465471
I'll at least vote on the 5D one, I guess.
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Is there a True/Good/Bad ending for VI? Currently on the restore Maginot Line mission.
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>>164466078
yes
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>>164466078
There is a true end.

After you beat Kamilla you get and end but then you tie up a whole bunch of loose ends and get another proper end
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>>164466105
>>164466115
Can you guys elaborate what are the ending and the key points? Might as well make a multiple save to get each ending.
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>>164466194
you don't need multiple saves, after you get the normal end you can continue with the post game
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>>164466194
The true ending is just an extension of the normal ending. After the ending you get a post game with a few more events and also let you do chara events you may have missed from before. After you do all you unlock the true ending.
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>>164466194
You get both in one playthrough.

Its just that beating Kamilla isn't the end of the game
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>>164466234
>>164466261
Sounds good, at least it isn't like SR where routes determine the ending. Thanks
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>>164466194
Once you beat the game it continues and you finish up the outstanding plot threads. The true ending is basically just the main story wrapped up. There's no breaking points. Just one long story.
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>>164466324
But also there is absolutely no reason to ever go back to this game since gameplay offers so little variety.
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>>164466594
I'll definitely replay it at some point
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VI would be such a better game if they had just doubled everyone's base SP.
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>>164466594
You say that but I've done more runs of VI than I've done of SR
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How do I access Haniwa Village? I have this hanny castle key that says it can be used in it
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>>164466594
Upgrade system and team party adds some variety.

>>164466960
Story event with Rizna later on. Keep playing. You'll know when it happens.
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>>164466960
...By going there? How do you not have access to Hanny Village yet?
You might have to talk to Rizna or something else that most people don't give a second thought to.
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>>164466928
And cut the orb bullshit in half.
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Just when I thought those two will never hold a normal conversation...

>Crook is a shell nerd too

Suddenly both are having fun talking with each other.
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>>164466928
That would just make the game braindead easy, you're meant to use your entire party not just your best 6
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>>164467081
>>164467087
is hanny village the same as hanny plain? if so I haven0t found a door closed that required that key there, also I'm in the post-game
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>>164467332
The Hanny Village is where you go for the hotsprings.

Have you been doing Rizna evemts?
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>>164467504
Hm, guess I missed the hot springs because I don't remember any, but I have been doing the events, have her at 30FR and the event where she meets the hanny king and gets a wish is the last one I got IIRC, and no new events how up at the base
I did the graduation too
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>>164467290
The game is already as easy as you want it to be. There's nothing stopping you from grinding endlessly.
Having more SP would just make it easier to explore dungeons and not have to do extra runs if you have autism and just want to explore everything.
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>>164467717
The amount of SP there is now makes dungeon crawling easy though
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>>164467281
Crook is just great.
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>>164467670
Think you missed the event where Kagekatsu arrives and invites you to the village. Pretty sure you needed to have no mission active for it to trigger.
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>>164467717

Might as well remove gameplay then and just have the story play itself out.
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>>164467717
If you want to just explore you run around with just Rocky and escape from encounters.
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>>164466934
To each his own I guess. Got 100% on my first run and I honestly see no reason to replay it other than nostalgia in 10 or so years.
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>>164467960
Or just freeze the encounter% at 0 with cheat engine.
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>>164467918
Welp, guess there's something that is permanently missable then, since I'm not getting anything now in the post-game and I have no missions left to do..
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>>164467897
second best pope
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>>164468168
First is Rance ?
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>>164468342
Am
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Feliss was having Dragon Knight babies?
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>>164468471
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>>164441486
>>164450037
BBA, though its kinda hard.
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>>164441486
Wait, is Beat Blades a game? I thought it was just some vn. How is it?
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>>164469004
its a nukige with shitty, barebones gameplay
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>>164469004
Training Simulator, basically you sex up your ninjas to increase their stats and fight enemies. Lose against bosses and get H-scenes of your ninja getting raped. The fighting is standard turn-base stuff.
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>>164469004

Basic battle system. I liked it because each heroine you have has scenes with abuse and rape.
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Does Foe Repellant stack?
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Is Nyanko sister of Sill?
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>>164463306
>IV definitely isn't 30.
More? Less?
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>>164470043
About half of that based on my stream
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Just counting the votes for the polls.

Can someone help me with some stuff?

Did the gal monster lycanthrope even appear in Rance VI?
I remember her a lot in 03 but can't say I remember her in VI.

Also what gal monster is philipa? The Flip Flap?
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>>164471236
actually managed to answer both those questions myself.

Don't worry about it
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wheres the pentagon key desu
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And time for the poll results.

Characters will be ranked from the highest number of points to the lowest.
If two characters are tied then the one who got votes from more voters will be ranked higher.

If the tie still can't be broken they will remain tied.
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>>164472804
Rance 5D Character Polls

4. Sill Plain (50 points)
5. Athena 2.0 (30 points)
6. Lil Avenger (4 points)
7. Noriko (1 point)

>>164472783
In a nearby room
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>>164472928


3rd Feliss (79 point)
2nd Copandon (82 points)
1st Rizna (135 points)

Rizna, Copandon and Feliss all got votes from a majority of voters.
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>>164472928
>Noriko (1 point)
Isn't it sad?
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>>164472928
>>164473017
>>164472804
I havent voted yet any link?

Gonna vote at least for 5D, im still at rescuing Sanakia which I think is at the mid way point of the game of VI.
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Is there a reliable way to get Large A level armor buns? And large S level weapon buns, if such a thing exists.
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>>164473143
Sorry. Not accepting any more votes for 5D because I just posted the results.

In any case because two more people voted for Copandon than voted for Feliss you wouldn't have been able to change anything
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Now I haven't played Rance 5D in some time and I have no recollection of what the fuck some of these gal monsters are but it is time for the Rance 5D Gal Monsters poll

Tied at 15th place with only a single point we have Onibaba, Pastry Girl and Naginata (is this actually even a gal monster?)

We have another tie for 13th with Lantyrn and Bolt (again what the fuck?) with 2 points each.

And yet another tier for 11th between Frozen and Kaminagahime both with 3 points from 2 voters.

11. Frozen (3 points from 2 voters)
11. Kaminagahime (3 points from 2 voters)
13.Bolt (2 points)
14.Lantyrn (2 points)
15.Naginata (1 point)
15.Onibaba (1 point)
15.Pastry Girl (1 point)
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>>164473221
can you post link for VI instead just in case Im done by the week or next
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>>164473156
They exist
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>>164473526
I'm not sure, but Naginata could be Tokko-chan.
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>>164452858
Rance apologizing to her for being weak, I had teary eyes.
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>>164473526
At tenth place, also with 3 points but this time from 3 votes, we have the Majician.

The Happiness Kyankyan came in at 9th with 6 points. The regular Kyankyan piped her happy sister and got 10 points.

The Demekin Trainer polled fourteen points to finish 7th, just behind Kamikaze with fifteen points

6. Kamikaze (15 votes)
7. Demekin trainer (14 points)
8. Kyankyan (10 points)
9. Happiness Kyankyan (6 points)
10. Majician (3 points from 3 voters)
11. Frozen (3 points from 2 voters)
11. Kaminagahime (3 points from 2 voters)
13.Bolt (2 points)
14.Lantyrn (2 points)
15.Naginata (1 point)
15.Onibaba (1 point)
15.Pastry Girl (1 point)

>>164473552
VI polls have also closed.

Most people who will vote have voted and keeping it open much longer will just get double votes.
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Are there any more evens with Dark Rance and Feliss after Disposal Dungeon?
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>>164473846

Coming in at 5th place was the unique Gal Monster, Gold Dragon with 18 points.

4th place was Tokko with 25 points from 11 voters.

But Black Nurse took out the podium placing with 25 points from 15 voters.

3. Black Nurse (25 points from 15 voters)
4. Tokko (25 points from 11 voters)
5. Gold Dragon (18 points)
6. Kamikaze (15 points)
7. Demekin trainer (14 points)
8. Kyankyan (10 points)
9. Happiness Kyankyan (6 points)
10. Majician (3 points from 3 voters)
11. Frozen (3 points from 2 voters)
11. Kaminagahime (3 points from 2 voters)
13.Bolt (2 points)
14.Lantyrn (2 points)
15.Naginata (1 point)
15.Onibaba (1 point)
15.Pastry Girl (1 point)

>>164473884
Wait for Rance Quest Magnum

>>164473689
That's a reasonable guess
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>>164474189
And second place is an old /haniho/ favourite in Deathko who got 46 points.

2. Death Girl (46 points)
3. Black Nurse (25 points from 15 voters)
4. Tokko (25 points from 11 voters)
5. Gold Dragon (18 points)
6. Kamikaze (15 points)
7. Demekin trainer (14 points)
8. Kyankyan (10 points)
9. Happiness Kyankyan (6 points)
10. Majician (3 points from 3 voters)
11. Frozen (3 points from 2 voters)
11. Kaminagahime (3 points from 2 voters)
13.Bolt (2 points)
14.Lantyrn (2 points)
15.Naginata (1 point)
15.Onibaba (1 point)
15.Pastry Girl (1 point)
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>>164474373
And the winner of the Rance 5D Gal Monster poll is the newly dubbed Lil Avenger who dominated from the beginning en-route to 75 points.

/haniho/ Favourite Gal Monster

1. Lil Avenger (75 points)
2. Death Girl (46 points)
3. Black Nurse (25 points from 15 voters)
4. Tokko (25 points from 11 voters)
5. Gold Dragon (18 points)
6. Kamikaze (15 points)
7. Demekin trainer (14 points)
8. Kyankyan (10 points)
9. Happiness Kyankyan (6 points)
10. Majician (3 points from 3 voters)
11. Frozen (3 points from 2 voters)
11. Kaminagahime (3 points from 2 voters)
13.Bolt (2 points)
14.Lantyrn (2 points)
15.Naginata (1 point)
15.Onibaba (1 point)
15.Pastry Girl (1 point)
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>>164474373
The strongest and cutest.
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>>164473017
Surprised that Feliss didn't get 2nd.

>>164474472
Revenge and Death Gal getting 1st and 2nd is predictable.
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>>164474657
Don't blame me, I put Ferris 1st.
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>>164473017
Wow I didn't expect Copa 2nd.
>>
Jill
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>>164474472
Honestly, wasn't entirely sure if Revenge-Chan counted as a girl or as a Gal Monster for both 5D and VI. The latter would just make her sweep the Gal Monster polls on the basis of actually having plot with her in it.

Also, Tokko possibly getting 3rd if Naginata counts is a nice thing to see.
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>>164474472
And now to keep the main poll to the end we'll do the Rance VI Gal Monster Poll

There was a seven way tie for 26th with Bee Girl, Choppy, Frog Lady, Goldfish Tamer, Humming, Wasp Girl and Zashiki Warashi all getting a single point.

Just ahead of them, with two points from a single voter, there was another seven way tie for 19th- Demekin Tamer, Gecko, Goat-san, Happiness Kyankyan, Kentucky, Magisco and Splish Splash.

There was another tie for 17th, with two points from two voters - Philipa and z'Kappa.

Again at 15th there was a tie with Angel Knight and Little Runway both getting 3 points from a single voter.

Majician held the 14th spot outright with 3 points from 3 voters.

Zombie Elf was 13th with 4 points

Cow Cow Bang Bang finished 12th with 5 points

And just outside the top ten there was Pasty Girl with 6 points
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>>164475121

Coming in at 10th was Sketch who got 7 points from 4 voters.

Also with 7 points but from 5 voters was Arunaru's favourite Sour who thus finished 9th.

There was yet another tie for 7th place this time between Conte and the Maid Lady with both getting 8 points from four voters.

But 6th was an outright placing with Tokko getting 11 points.


6. Tokko (11 points)
7. Conte (8 points from 4 voters)
7. Maid Lady (8 points from 4 voters)
9. Sour (7 points from 5 voters)
10. Sketch (7 points from 4 voters)


>>164474915
If anon can confirm that he meant Tokko then I'll give Tokko the votes.

>>164474657
Feliss and Copa were neck and neck the whole time.
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>>164475523
5th place belonged to Kamikaze who scored 17 points.

In a bit of a surprise fourth place was taken out by Frozen who managed to get 20 points.

The old favourite, Kyankyan, came in at fourth with 23 points.

3. Kyankyan (23 points)
4. Frozen (20 points)
5. Kamikaze (17 points)
6. Tokko (11 points)
7. Conte (8 points from 4 voters)
7. Maid Lady (8 points from 4 voters)
9. Sour (7 points from 5 voters)
10. Sketch (7 points from 4 voters)
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>>164475121
>I'm the only person that voted humming.
Get your shit together /haniho/
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>>164475121
Shit, I missed the voting. Would probably vote for Black Nurse and Tokko.
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>>164475775
Captain Vanilla was always going to be a contender and comfortably took out second place with 31 points

2. Captain Vanilla (31 points)
3. Kyankyan (23 points)
4. Frozen (20 points)
5. Kamikaze (17 points)
6. Tokko (11 points)
7. Conte (8 points from 4 voters)
7. Maid Lady (8 points from 4 voters)
9. Sour (7 points from 5 voters)
10. Sketch (7 points from 4 voters)
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And to cap off her victory in the 5D poll, Lil Avenger dominated the Rance VI poll as well finishing first with 45 points.

1. Lil Avenger (45 points)
2. Captain Vanilla (31 points)
3. Kyankyan (23 points)
4. Frozen (20 points)
5. Kamikaze (17 points)
6. Tokko (11 points)
7. Conte (8 points from 4 voters)
7. Maid Lady (8 points from 4 voters)
9. Sour (7 points from 5 voters)
10. Sketch (7 points from 4 voters)
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Does Yuzuhara's recruitment event show up when I bring Kuma in a dungeon or is it when I change rooms? I tried just going back and forth between two rooms and that doesn't seem to work.
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>>164476432
Also, what to do with Kou's armor? I think about removing the Oda one and giving her something else because with it she's just way too slow and usually acts only once at the end of a fight which makes her completely poitless as a guard.
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And now for the Rance VI /haniho/ Popularity Poll

There was a tie for 51st with Bernard and Cutie both getting a single point.

And for 49th there was another tie, with Chizuko and Dark Rance/Squirtle/Feb/Boobies both getting two points

Three characters tied for 46th spot with Eropicha, Reincock and Saias all getting three points from a single voter.

The young orphan Afra took out 45th spot for herself with four points

Surprisingly Kabachahn only managed to get 5 points and finished as low as 44th.

Willis, despite masturbating to Bird, got seven points and finished 43rd.

Kay-chan barely appeared in VI but managed to come in at 42nd with eight points.

And there was a two way tie for 40th between Prima and Wichita with both girls getting 10 points from three voters
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>>164476892
>someone voted for Bernard
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>>164476892
Wanted to put Willis on my list, but 10 spaces were surprisingly small and easy to fill fast.
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>>164476892
With 11 points, Daniel Safety finished 39th.

Another Ice Flame member finished 38th with Megadeath getting 12 points from 2 voters.

And the last of the ice flame trio, Cessna, finished 37th, also with 12 points but from 5 voters.

Three characters got 13 points but they all had different number of voters.

Kimchi's 13 points came from 2 voters which meant she finished 36th.

Her old benefactor, Foot also got 13 points but from 3 voters which was enough to finish 35th.

And the orphan Karma came in at 34th with 13 points from 4 voters.

At 33 was an old /haniho/ favourite with her relatively weak polling here attributable to her not doing much in VI. Feliss received 14 points.

At 16 points was Sel or Cell if you prefer and that was sufficient for her to place 32nd.

A few people obviously liked the Gal Monster scenes because Tamanagei got 17 points which helped him to 31st.

The Apostle Yuki did worse than I expected but sill managed to finish in the top 30 with 22 points.


>>164476432
might need for be malgreed dungeon
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>>164476432
If I remember correctly you need to transition 2 rooms, not going back and forth.

>>164476789
She can still guard with initial guard. Oda-armor is pretty impressive against magic. There is also a spear skill that raises speed until the end of the dungeon.
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>>164477460
>Cessna
>37th
>Not liking the cute, sleepy Damage-monster
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>>164477460

With 32 points, the ice General Uspira came in at 29th. A sex scene with Rance probably would have boosted her
With Kabachahn and Saias polling poorly and Alex not polling at all this ended Uspira was the best performing Zeth General.

28th was taken out by Papaya Server who got 33 points. Like Uspira I thought she might poll a bit better than she actually did.

At 27th was one of the main heroines of the game, the Zethian Princess Magic who only got 35 points.

And at 26th was another surprisingly poor performer in Seizel who received 38 points. /haniho/ has not yet forgiven her for KR it seems

26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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>>164477901
She has like 20 lines at most though.
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>>164477460
>>164477723
Thanks. Also, can I sell items? Or at least throw them away? I have way too many useless stuff.
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>>164477982
>And at 26th was another surprisingly poor performer in Seizel who received 38 points. /haniho/ has not yet forgiven her for KR it seems
I'm impressed she even surpassed Yuki at all.
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>>164478024
You can donate them in the shop, which unlocks some more things to buy
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Are there any missable quests?

Specifically, I'm at the part where I can Stop Pentagon or take the star mission about Karma.
Does the order I tackle these ever matter or should I just do the main thing last?
I'm worried about delaying it.
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>>164478329
I did the Pentagon missions first and it's okay. Not sure what happens if you do the Karma one first. I would assume that you still have the option to do the Pentagon ones.
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>>164477982

Not far ahead of Seizel, in 25th place is a /haniho/ favourite in Rick. Not many people voted for Rick but those who did managed to get him 40 points).

Ahead of Rick there was a gap but despite this gap, Chaos never really pushed for a top 20 spot. He did however get 64 points which was enough to finish 24th.

At 23rd was Sill Plain. Sill was probably unlucky to not finish in the top 20 as until a few late votes she was very much in position to make the top 20. She did still manage a perfectly respectable 73 points and was just behind a very close cluster of characters.

Sanakia came in at 22nd with 79 points from 14 voters.

And at 21st, also with 79 points but from 15 voters was TADA's favourite girl Copandon.


21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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>>164477986
Her cuteness transcends that.

I do wish she had more dialogue and another H-scene though.
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>>164478686

Just squeezing into the top 20 was everyone's favourite leggy terrorist Elizabeth who got 80 points from 15 votes.
She had better luck here than in the game.

At 19th was the strongest allykiller Annis who also managed 80 points but from 19 voters. While it looks like she only just made it into the top 20 she was actually comfortably in it for most the time.

At 18th spot, Sieg joined Elizabeth as characters who made the /haniho/ top 20 but not the Japanese one. Sieg deserved his 84 points.

With 87 points, Abert did a bit better than expected and managed to come in at 17th.

Just one point ahead was one of the more fappable girls in the game, with Emi's 88 points and 16th spot proving that many anons love to vote with their dick.

And at 15th with 97 points was a traditional series mainstay Maria.


15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)

>>164478329
>>164478462
You can do Karma First
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>>164479313
>Emi's 88 points and 16th spot proving that many anons love to vote with their dick.
Come on, Emi is great in general not just for the faps.
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>>164479313

And at 14th we had our first centurion with the cute mastermind Aurora getting 103 points.

13th was a bit of a surprise with the Queen of Leazas, Lia getting 106 points. Then again at times this is pretty much a Leazas general.

12th was a girl who needed to hang around in the party for longer. Kaoru managed to capture /haniho/'s heart and dicks and got 107 points.

And while she may not have won her fathers heart, Nagi did win the minds of some anons which was enough for her to get 113 points and 11th spot.

11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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Spoiler: Rance is #1
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>>164479756
The first of our top ten and the highest ranking slave was the underage, 14 year old, Rocky who got a very impressive 127 points

>>164479447
I voted for her as well.
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>>164479824
Best boy.
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>>164479824

Coming in at 9th was a character with a well known fanbase on /haniho/.
Kamilla got 134 points and probably could have got more if she had had an /ss/ scene.
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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>>164479998

In a rare moment, the Prince of Helman actually beat the Queen of Leazas in /haniho/, with Patton's 145 points also allowing him to beat his sister Nagi.


8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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>>164480095
>his sister Nagi
What?
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>>164480176
>>164311641
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>>164480176
Didn't you hear Rance? Patton is the third daughter of Asmase.
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>>164480095

At seven, with 154 points and the highest ranked of the new (first translated game) characters is the insect user Caloria who hopefully gets some nice interactions with Galtia in Rance X.

7. Caloria (154 points)
8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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>>164480346
I predict:
Rance->Shizuka->Kanami->Rizna->Urza->Gandhi
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>>164480346
Coming in at 6th with 175 points and beating the Helman Prince and the Leazas Queen was the charismatic Zethian King Ragnarokarc Super Gandhi.

6. Gandhi (175 points)
7. Caloria (154 points)
8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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>>164480550

At 5th we had a girl who got a lot of attention and backstory in Rance VI. One of the four /haniho/ famed Zeth blondes, Rizna.
At times she pressed for as high as 3rd but 5th spot and 197 points as well as the 5D win rounds out some good polls for Rizna.

5. Rizna (197 points)
6. Gandhi (175 points)
7. Caloria (154 points)
8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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Tamanagi is such a bro. A shame that you can't increase his level cap.
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>>164480791
Considering no one really cared about her from Sengoku alone, that's some great boost in popularity.
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>>164480791
It wouldn't be Kanami without a loss in some way and falling out of the top three due to the final voter is such a Kanami thing to do.

That said the cute ninja still managed to get 204 points in a very impressive performance.

4. Kanami (204 points)
5. Rizna (197 points)
6. Gandhi (175 points)
7. Caloria (154 points)
8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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Fittingly given her transformation in game, it was the very last vote that gave Uzra a spot in the top three. A Rance approved 97/100 and one of the four great Zeth blondes, it is not a surprise that Uzra managed to get 208 points.

3. Uzra (208 points)
4. Kanami (204 points)
5. Rizna (197 points)
6. Gandhi (175 points)
7. Caloria (154 points)
8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)

>>164480991
Well you can increase it by one each time in the disposal dungeon but its not worth the hassle
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>>164481090
Her failures only make her cuter.
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>>164479756
>>164480095
>>164480550
Lia even getting close to Patton and Super Gandhi despite doing little in VI really shows how popular she is here huh
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>>164481343
After the first 20 odd votes came in it actually looked like she might have a chance of winning the whole thing. But while Shizuka fell off the pace she was never in any danger of missing out on the top two.

With 319 points from 52 voters Shizuka finishes second.

2. Shizuka (319 points)
3. Uzra (208 points)
4. Kanami (204 points)
5. Rizna (197 points)
6. Gandhi (175 points)
7. Caloria (154 points)
8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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>>164481482
>>
I thought Hanty would get some random vote considering even Bernard and Cutie did.
>>
>>164481602
fuck me that left art-nouveau style painting is sweet as fuck
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>>164481038
To be fair, her Sengoku portrayal wasn't at the best. Her portrait (IMO) sucked and she was stuck in a class completely unsuited for her.
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>>164481737
Draw by Orion, if I remember correctly.
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>>164481602
And surprising nobody, Rance was finished in his own game with a massive 443 points.

Along with Shizuka, Rance's 47 voters made him one of two characters to get points from a majority of voters.

1. Rance (443 points)
2. Shizuka (319 points)
3. Uzra (208 points)
4. Kanami (204 points)
5. Rizna (197 points)
6. Gandhi (175 points)
7. Caloria (154 points)
8. Patton (145 points)
9. Kamilla (134 points)
10. Rocky (127 points)
11. Nagi (113 points)
12. Kaoru (107 points)
13. Lia (106 points)
14. Aurora (103 points)
15. Maria (97 points)
16. Emi (88 points)
17. Abert (87 points)
18. Sieg (84 points)
19. Annis (80 points from 19 voters)
20. Elizabeth (80 points from 15 voters)
21. Copandon (79 points from 15 voters)
22. Sanakia (79 points from 14 votes)
23. Sill (73 points)
24. Chaos (64 points)
25. Rick (40 points)
26. Seizel (38 points)
27. Magic (35 points)
28. Papaya (33 points)
29. Uspira (32 points)
30. Yuki (22 points)
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Did Emi get raped by rioters?
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>>164481737
Rance IX preorder bonus.
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>>164481836
She wishes.
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>>164481836
She wishes but no
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>>164481829
The strongest.
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>>164480531
Seems like you just understimated Urza.
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>>164481836
Was she at home or still in some hospital?
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That's a pretty good top 10.
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>>164482081
I'd just find a way to kick Rocky or Kamilla out of it and add Aurora for a perfect top 10 (not taking the order into account).
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>>164481829
>3. Uzra (208 points)
Urza
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>>164482217
Spellcheck

>>164482184
Your opinion man.

>>164482054
in her room
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>>164482184
Anon be fair, Aurora showed up for like 5 scenes at tops, she didn't have that much screen time compared to the other characters.
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>>164481525
>despite doing little
>implying Lia wasn't more important than both of them simply due to providing troops
What game changing stuff did Gandhi and Patton really do?
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>>164482463
Patton was Rances meat shield allowing him to easily kill stuff. Patton also provided cute asssassins for Rance to fuck.
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>>164482463
She also dominated the Princess of Zeth
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>>164482403
Her room is pretty safe, sa sadly for her, nothing happened then.
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>>164482547
including a Kanami sibling

>>164482409
She needed a sex scene to push for top 10
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Kibako a cute
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>>164482797
Careful what you feed her though
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>>164481829
>Was >>164466001
>Probably one of the last if not the last
>Managed to push Urza into third and Kanami into fourth
Feels great.
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>destroy general Lightning
>hurrr he too stronk better use return bonsai
>destroy both guardian-z at Magazine Tower
>hurr too stronk let's retreat to the mana batteries

kind of disappointed desu, why do i have to run when im winning
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>>164482885
penis
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>>164483182
zeth is gayest country ive ever seen
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>>164483303
You're the gayest country I've ever seen.
>>
I picked up Rance 6 after a small break.
What am I supposed to to for the Naughty nun quest?
I think there was a hint about killing hannies in the 3 rooms, but what is the end goal?
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>>164484429
Go the church
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>>164484429
The killing hannies in the four rooms is completely separate to the quest.

The quest is to just go to the church and see Rose
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>>164484482
>>164484472
Yep, that was kinda stupid on my part.
Still, what is the four room thing about?
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>>164484576
It's for a later sidequest with Rizna.
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>>164484576
To go to the haniwa underground
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>>164484654
Back to the main quest then.
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>>164484654
>>164484576
But while it is accessible at any time, the roomswill seem pointless unless you are doing the sidequest.
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>>164481829
So Patton, Rocky and Abert need to be on our soccer team
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>>164482053
I just expected Kanami to be 3rd. Wasn't sure between Urza and Rizna. They were all really close to each other at least.
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>>164482409
I wonder why Ryouko and Pompadour didn't make it. They were cool.
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>>164482463
Gandhi was the main leader of the escaping force with the refugees and also assisted Rance in battle just as much as Rick did.
Patton all around fought alongside him for over half the game, which is way longer than Rick. And Rick did nothing game changing either.
Really the only game changing stuff Lia did was not invade Zeth and only because of Rance.
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>>164486221
and the feeding of millions of refugees and the marshall plan
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>>164485096
>Aurora infiltrates into positions where she can access information but avoid suspicion
>Aurora was found out in Rance VI
>Julia hasn't appeared in any game set after Rance VI
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>"Here, have a bunch of really cool strong characters"
>you don't get to use them in postgame
why
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>wichita isnt unit
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>>164487210
You can use them again after you activate the challenge mode or whatever it's called in the enlish version.
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>>164487272
Until Quest
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>>164486221
>Really the only game changing stuff Lia did was not invade Zeth and only because of Rance.
and then provide those troops to protect the civilians, Feed them and fight the monster army. There wouldn't be any Zeth citizens without that backup as the large majority of the Zeth army was killed in the first few days.

>>164487272
She is in Quest
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>>164487272
Did Ghandi ever figure out Rance took her virginity unwillingly or did he just assume he took in that threesome with Kaoru?
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>>164487650
Actually i am curious, do Zeth and Leazus have some history as why Lia was so trigger happy to invade them?

In KR the both Countries were described as one generally good terms.
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>>164488814
Lia needs a reason to be trigger happy?
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>>164488814
Lia wants to conquer the world someday and it was the perfect chanc. It's nothing personal against Zeth. If anything, their rivalry is with Helman.
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>>164488814
Yes, Zeth and Helman teamed up against Leazas in a previous war which is the same war which Rick became famous. Never mind that Lia wants to control the world
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>>164489104
Wasn't it Helman and the Demon army, not Zeth?
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>>164489383
It was before that.
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So Tilde is 14 or 15 when she meets Rance and has slept with many men before him. She cute and all but why make her such a whore?
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>>164489459
Because whores are the best kind of women.
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>>164488814
Lia is opportunistic in VI, and unlike KR she isn't married to her darling. She wants to conquer the world to give it to Darling. Like Copandon, except brute force instead of being a jew.
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>>164489459
To make it that much hotter when she submits to Rance.
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>>164489459
I don't think it was that many, but anyway, sleeping with people to take advantage of their status was basically her whole deal until the latter half of IX.
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>>164489459
Because it fits her character. She's ambitious and sleeping around was an easy way to get status.
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>>164488814
Zeth is a potential enemy, so she wont lose an opportunity to take over them. Gandhi said he would have done the same.
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>>164488982
>>164489004
>>164489104
>>164489724
>>164489942

I guess that makes sense, still i just consider it strategically unsound

Naturally after defeating the remainder of the Zethan Army on Adams Fort, Leazus will have to fight the Monster Army, granted you could say they already suffered some losses themselves but still a fight against them led by invincible Fiends would still be costly

Alright lets assume Leazus wins and drives the Monster Army back out, what do they gain? A ravaged land roughly the same size of their own Country with most of their own troops depleted.and in dire need of relief funds. Naturally Leazus would have to use its own Army to defend its new territory against any new invasions from the Monster Army.

Meanwhile there is still the threat of Helman After a costly War, Leazus should be ripe for the picking.
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>>164490472
The Helman army was in no state to fight Leazas at the time, never mind that the Monster army itself wasn't in a state to take on the only about half of the Leazas army. The only real problem is the inability to restablish the Magnoit line which means constant attacks from the monsters. If the line can be restablished then there's not much wrong with the plan

> A ravaged land
The only part of the land that is ravaged is the cities, the monsters aren't burning down forests and salting land. Zeth land would be prime farming land

> invincible Fiends would still be costly
True but they can be sealed which is why they don't fight armies alone bar nutters like Kay-chan and Red Eye.
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>>164490472
It's not that unsound; since Rance already killed fiends in III so she would probably just call him, and the monster army wasn't equipped to deal with Leazas's army. They're undermanned, and unlike Zeth nobody has been sabotaging them. Leazas get access to all of Zeth's magic and technology prowess and Helman can't really invade right now. They're a total mess. Leazas were totally right to attack.
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>>164490472
Helman is busy suffering from the plague and the loss of their emperor if I'm remembering the years right
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>>164490472
The monster army attacking Zeth isnt too big, and their forces had already been cut in half when Lia turned up.

If they could have turned the Maginot Line back on it would be like doubling their land for free, since Zeth was in no position to fight back
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Is Kanami the longest tsundere in the history of anime and video games?

Has any other girl been tsun for 25 years before?
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>>164450530
When was it confirmed outside of the non canon KR?
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>>164493356
Shizuka. Technically still tsun after IX.
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>>164445556
>>164445705
>>164446938
So that black haired mage girl from 9 who has level 3 is therefore much stronger than Ghandi?

Considering how broken he is in VI I find it hard to believe that she is even stronger in that game.
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>>164490472
>Leazus
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>>164493837
Yes but Miracle's boon is her knowledge not just her power, she also prides herself on being able to use any spells she's seen cast. She even learns Hunty's spells
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>>164493837
Gandhi is nothing compared to her majestic presence.
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>>164493837
Hunty's magic is also equal to Magic LV3 even though she doesn't have levels anymore. IX's party was absurdly powerful, probably one of the strongest parties ever assembled in the history of the Continent not counting Dragons.
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>>164494164

Never played IX but wtf is that Oda on the right. I thought he died in Sengoku.
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>>164490472
Helman still can't invade because of the desert and the mountains. Their economy is also beyond shitty at that point.
The only problem is that Leazas certainly would need to build a fort to protect them from the Monster Realm.
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>>164494541
That's her dreamteam I think. She don't know he is dead.
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>>164494541
It's her her 13 knights or whatever generals, basically what she considers the strongest people on the continent good enough to serve her. She made up that list in her mind, Rance corrects her by saying that some of those people are dead or weaksauce. It's not just about strength though, she disquallifies Rick for being weak spirited, though she says he would make a good gate guard.
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>>164494541
Basically it's just her fantasy.

Nobunagas swordmanship is famous after all.
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>>164494541
Its kou when she grows up
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>>164493837
Her raw power is not nearly as absurd as Anise's but her wide knowledge and ability with spells make her a better spellcaster overall. She can learn even the most complicated spells easily.
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>>164494859
Rance rejects all of them.
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>>164495008
First, unlike Anise, she don't destroy everyone by mistake and dosn't do coffee with high tiers fire magic.
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Rance has got to be one of my favorite protagonists of all time.
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>>164495068
Of course he does, he doesn't like to share, but he does recognize some the people she picked strength.
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>>164495068
False. He doesn't reject himself.
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>>164494774
>She don't
>>164495278
>she don't
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>>164495604

No Bully
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So, can you bitchsmack that Miracle girl into submission in IX or what?
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>>164495604
Oups, thanks for the correction.
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>>164495732
yas, she's a huge M
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>>164494956
I don't think Rance is ready for kou maturing then
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>>164494956
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>>164495732
Yes but right after she gets fucked she puts her persona back on
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>>164494956
She looks a lot like her brother.
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>>164422060

Satella. I'd bully her with my dick.
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>>164424817

Sengoku? He was still in Genbu's castle at that time. And he shows up in Quest but he's kind of a loser.
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>>164497029
>not Ssual
>>164497158
Genbu tells how he went back to his castle for a bit, killed Waka and one-shotted bird breaking his bones and kicked him out of the castle
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>>164497158
Genbu kicks his ass when he goes back to his castle during SR, seeing how mad string the the dude is its surprising Bird is still alive
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>>164497260
>>164497326
Right I forgot about that.

And Bird is more durable than you think.
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>>164497417
>ran_cutting_birds_arm_off_in_one_hit.jpg
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>>164497652

He got a new one, no big deal.
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>>164497652
And he survived
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>>164497747
True.

I wish i could do a rocket punch
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>>164497326
>Bird lost his virginity to a doll
Sasuga.
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Can you get Satsu in the MG release of Rance VI?
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>>164498091
You just need to find a big techno glove.
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Does Rance fuck the castle maid in Quest?
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>>164477982
I'm surprised Seizel got that high desu.

People call Xavier a joke but Seizel did the astounding feat of jobbing even harder than he does

And she doesnt look nearly as good as she did in KR
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>>164494164
Who's the short black haired guy and is that supposed to be Ithere next to him?
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>>164498516
Unfortunately, no.

It should be moddable with some work though.
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>>164499578
Seizel has always been a joke. Her apostle is much more competent than she is.
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>>164499632
Yes, that's Ithere.
As for the short guy, see: http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Marishiten
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>>164495732
She's not the kind of girl you're probably thinking she is, anyway.
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>>164475784
Humming was fourth on my list, nearly made it, but fell just short.
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>>164494164
What's so special about Soun?
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>>164501210
Very powerful diviner?

He's only second to Omachi gameplay-wise
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If I make stun attacks stronger such as poison needle or shuriken does it affect the chance for stun to happen?
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>>164501210
He's an Onmyouji.
Might be interesting in battle to have one.
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>>164499578
She scored much higher in the Japanese poll though.
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>>164498516
It's apparently translated though? You just need the patch to enable it.
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>>164501625
Other than Magic being fourth this poll is a lot better.
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>>164501625
Can somebody make a chart for the top 5 and top 20 for 5D and VI respectively showing vote totals?
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Anybody have a full Rance VI save file they can upload? I can't find one through Google.

I've been really enjoying the game but I believe my characters are too underleveled and I don't want to grind them up.
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>>164501969
Post your levels and what point in the game you are.

If you havent been running from every single fight I garrentee you aren't underleveled
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fuck these cockroaches not letting me see all my girls in the castle
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>>164502112
I was stuck on the Seizel fight where you have to fight a general afterward. I ended up beating it by just throwing fodder / Caloria to time out the Seizel fight and saving everybody for the fight after.
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What's the best place to grind? Ippatsu keeps kicking my ass.
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>>164501831
How?
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>>164502260
Exterminate them
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>>164503440
Because my Rance sucks I guess.Here's his stats right now. Ippatsu is all I have left.
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>>164504121
you're overleved as fuck
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>>164504589
I guess I just suck then since he keeps hitting me for 1.5k and I can't do 50,000 damage in time.
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>>164504986
>what is rance attack
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>>164504059
Did it, they are still there. Got second quest but it's 40 difficulty when my highest leveled guys are at about 25 so atm it will be painful to complete.
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>>164504121
Ippatsu is far from being the last boss to fight
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>>164504121
>Evasion 14
That's your problem. I gave him two Strange Quick Beetles and Ippatsu failed as much as Cessna without the dolls.
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What's the recommended level against post-game Abert? He keeps trashing me.
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How do I deal with the 2 guardians in Magic's tower?
Only rance survives 3 attacks, the rest die and I barely kill one of them
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>>164481829
Other than Lia and Nagi being in the top 20 , this is better than the Japanese results. I can't recall Nagi even being in the top 20 from the KR poll that was done.
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>>164505814
You are supposed to retreat. Read the text again before the battle.
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>>164505278
I meant as in I've already beaten Fiend Abert and Gunagan so I assumed he was the last optional boss.
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>>164505917
I swear rance did not have the tactical retreat option,
Ok, redo time
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>>164505845
Pretty sure she scored high there
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>>164505621
Probably the level you're at? You can beat pretty much everything with everyone under level 70. Just make sure Rance is bulky.
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>>164506087
Probably a bug. At times Sel doesn't have the option to do nothing, and it screws me at times.
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>>164506134
Hope I can make it, then.
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I have a few questions.
First of all, how did Teru get pregnant in Rance Quest when she didn't have any H-events and Rance was under the effects of that curse?
Second, whatever happened to the translation projects for Rance 4 and Rance Quest and were there ever any plans for Rance IX?
Last, shouldn't Magic's kid have been born in Rance IX around the same time as Lia's son?
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>>164506531
>translation projects for Rance 4
wat
>Rance Quest
The master plan was revealed.
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>>164506737
>The master plan was revealed.
What was that?
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>>164506531
Teru had H-events, she just didn't have CGs.
IV was released and Quest is still being worked on. Don't count on IX any time soon.
Lia's son isn't even born yet.
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>>164506882
Selling out to MG
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>>164506531
The curse is meaningless, Rance fucked like everyone under the sun.
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>>164506531
Looks like you haven't been around for a while. Basically, is still being translated (progress unknown) and the soonest we can get it is maybe a year a half or so. But there may be more than one alicesoft projects translated before it so possible release date is hard to predict. IX - after like 3 or 4 years in best case. X - our grandsons may enjoy it.
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Man, IX's boys are great.

I didn't really like Patton much in VI, but him, Hubert and Rick really shine in this game. The girls are shit in comparison.
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>>164506906
>Lia's son isn't even born yet
Huh?
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>>164507129
That's the end of the Kanami Route, almost a full year after the end of IX.
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>>164506946
Any fan translator can become a normal translator, its not selling out at all. Its accomplishing the exact same thing.
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>>164507128
Yeah, big improvement in that section compared to older titles. I'd almost turn homo for IX Rance.
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>>164507350
Would you go to Morrco sex change temple for him?
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>>164507526
Well, I'd prefer Ranceko in that case but if that's not an option, then yeah, probably.
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>>164506092
She wasn't in the japanese one.
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Just got the scene where Kanami gets cursed. Is that the reason for her lovey dovey personality in IX? I thought she just had decided to change by herself which would've been cuter in my opinion.
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>>164507129
>>164506531
I see someone is judging based on CGs alone.
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How does the affection system works?

Is there a turning point in this game where it locks me into a certain ending? Or can I put points into whatever I want and depending on my affection I'm given a choice with one of the heroines at the very end of the game?
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>>164505845
she did well in our KR one
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>>164507919
She changes on her own

>>164508027
You are given a choice but first end has t
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Should I watch out for something? This is the last one before Abert and I don't want to die too quickly.
Oh, and should I put Caloria in that missing space?
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>>164508027
You are given a choice but first end has to be revolution end.

I really, really, really don't recommend reading a text heavy game like IX through a machine translator
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>>164508129
There's a few super hannies.
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>>164508129
If you have SP, why not?
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>>164508195
>>164508248
I'll put Kanami then.
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>>164507920
Pretty much. I can't play the game yet after all.
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Play Mamatoto
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>>164508193
>I really, really, really don't recommend reading a text heavy game like IX through a machine translator
Well, mangagamer exists so you know
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>>164508193
Meh, I'm getting more or less what's going on so far. I don't feel like is necesary up until this point.
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>>164508683
>Implying anyone was going to translate it anyway
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why is maria the best unit in the game
I put her on same tier as Ghandi endgame
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I assume it's just Abert and THE STRONGEST, is it true?
Also, does it follow the same mechanic as SR where if Rance is out, you can't deal damage?
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>>164509071
Yes
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>>164508748
Considering someone is sitting on a almost complete translation of rance quest, 9's translation is very possible
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>>164508332
Can she dodge hanny flashes?
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>>164509173
Around 65% isn't almost complete when we're talking about Quest. And IX is just as big text-wise. You were never getting it this decade.
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>>164506393
I've only had that trouble with Rizna when she has her buffs and the Call Ally option is available. Interesting that it shows up in other contexts...
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>>164509150
Shit, I'll better put him on the rear and hope for the best.
Also, are Abert's attacks magic or physical?
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>>164509318
65% was the status from months ago, its reasonable to assume its gotten farther than that in that time
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>>164509514
Probably not by much since Maria is going to give priority to anything she's getting paid for, and for now that's not Quest.
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>>164509514
I don't think Maria worked on it again and it probably needs a lot of work to accommodate new nameshit.
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>>164509719
Assuming that actually requires much work
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>>164510015
There must be a lot of names in such a text heavy game that you need to find and change I assume.
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Fuck you Annis.
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What the fuck are these Z guardians they just wiped my ass with their aoe attacks
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>>164510137
the technology exists if it took longer than a day I would be surprised
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>>164510137
What is "Find in Files" and "Replace"

Anything not caught in the initial batch can be found by testers. No need to waste TL time on that.
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>>164510181
Run
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>Doodle Hero

That shit is stronger than Camilla
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>>164510378
Well of course the hero is stronger than the evil dragon.
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Damn Aniss is kicking my shit in worse than Abert.
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>>164510562
>tfw see her charge
>focus on abert
>okay it's just a WDB or a BDB
>just pray that it doesn't target rance
>hits all for more than 8000 damage
She truly is the strongest.
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>Rizna hit by a magic spell
>0 damage, thanks Hanny King
>Still stunned

Why
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>>164510851
The worst thing for me is when she doesn't charge, her magic hits for 2000-4000 on a character and almost always kills them.
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>>164510562
>>164510851
>ignoring someone who's charging
Your own fault for losing desu
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>>164511259
Tried to, but not even Kanami, Caloria and Maria could interrupt her. I was prioritizing Abert on the front ignoring Francesca.
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>>164511136
For the same reason you can stun demons even if they have their invincibility field on.
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>>164511664
Chaos disables the field, unlike the hero sword which pierces it.
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I got lucky with the stuns and beat Annis and Albert
Shizuka's white destruction beam did a shitton of damage too.
A question about bllodsouls
they said that Fiends can revive from their blood soul, but Albert absorbed Sieg's, does that mean that Abert can come back?Aurora was acting like the Blood Soul was still Sieg's, so who's Blood Soul is now?
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>>164512047
You can stun them even without Chaos. You just can't inflict damage to them.
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>>164512241
It's Aberts, Aurora is just dumb.
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>>164512241
Abert can revive yes, Sieg is 100% dead and Aurora is an idiot.
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>>164510378
>Has a charge move that recovers 30 hp
Some hero.
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>>164510562
Annis is the strongest
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Take that, strongest.
Also, was it just me, or Annis has more defense than anything on the game? My attacks barely did 750.
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>>164513239
Its the resistance
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>>164513239
I think there's some enemy that has 95 defense. Don't remember which one.
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How the fuck do I beat the Hanny King?
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Anyone know how to get the missing CG here?
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What am I missing?

>>164513523
You should've taken Sill to the Lovers event.
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>>164513440
Pray that you get stun to activate. Otherwise it'll be a painful experience.
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>>164513523
Go with sill to the cherry blossom
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>>164513673
Forgot pic. What's with this missing CG?
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>>164513673
>>164513797
Did Alicesoft actually expect people to take Sill there?
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>>164513901
I took Sill there first and after seeing the CG, I tried with all the other girls.
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>>164513901
Everybody knows cows can't be lovers.
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Damn. Seeing Dark Rance and Feliss in the credits was heartwarming.
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>>164513901
The opposite. They wanted that to be the CG that no-one knows how to get.
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>>164513901
Did you honestly expect anyone other than Rance and Sill to get a CG in that mission?
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>>164514878
I didn't expect a CG in that mission at all.
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>>164513889
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>>164515096
It's a random Urza one.
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>>164515096
It's Urza's.
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>>164515096
It's an Uzra scene but IIRC its missable, or has a 100% requirement.
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>>164513889
Urza during the true ending
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>>164514878
In Rance 06 there will be extras
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20 years later and Kichikuou Rance is still the best Rance game
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>>164515345
Before or after beating Abert?
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Why does selecting floor 7 bring you to floor -3 and selecting floor 3 bring you to floor -7 in the Zethan Capital...
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>devils are way stronger than demons, but have no invincibility field
So why is there no devil turned dark lord yet?
You have a bunch of beings with no level cap and infinite potential who only grow stronger as they age. Logically they would be the ultimate dark lords, perhaps even more powerful than a demon king.
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>>164515719
Because Planner wants devils exterminated on sight.
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>>164515565
>10 years later and Sengoku Rance is still the best Rance game
Fixed.
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>>164515837
And demons listen to that shit?
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>>164515940
Nah.
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>>164515983
They better, because Planner can just have them gone too.
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I'm at Amber Castle and I keep getting sent back. Is there something I'm missing or a line of dialogue I skipped that explains where I need to go?
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>>164516059
Yep.
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>>164515719
Because why would they? Devils and Gods are separated from the Planner Scenario. The only reason why the Seizel sisters are Dark Lords is because Planner gave them to Gele.
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>>164516107
Does Planner even know about them?

>>164516163
You have to destroy some equipment one floor below. Every time you come back.
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>>164515719
Because nobody has turned one.

Also most devils are weaker than the strongest demons and the strongest devils are too strong to be converted
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>>164516214
Of course he does. He just doesn't know where the Devil Realm is hidden.
Only Harmonitt knows that.
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>>164516214
>Every time you come back.
Ah alright, that makes sense. I did it the first time I went through, but forgot about it since then. Thanks!
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>>164516163
Break the communicator in the bottom floor of the castle
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>>164516315
The get someone with tons of potential like Dark Rance and convert him.
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>>164516509
Planner would wipe him off the Continent.
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Thanks, Kanami. Your evasion really paid off.
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>>164516978
>Only 108
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>>164517181
I know. Still, not even one of his attacks hit her.
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>>164516978
Kanami is so strong.
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>>164518475
She looks like Rodney on the thumbnail.
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Is the last boss fight the Fiend squad (Rance 6)?
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>>164518904
The Fiend squad?
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>>164519084
When you 100% the game, you unlock something called madness mode and that's just a battle you can do.
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>>164519084
The Fictional: vs Fiend Squad fight in madness mode
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>>164519243
I'm missing a cg thats a boss though and was wondering if that was it
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>>164513889
I'm missing the Sanakia scene and what I assume is a Kimchi scene. How do I get them?
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>>164519392
Character clear them.
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>>164519502
I have Sanakia at 30 FR but no scene appears.
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Which boss am I missing?
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>>164520118
Did you get her sword and do all the other events with her?
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>>164520327
I guess not.
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>>164520503
If you're missing her s rank sword its in the museum
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>>164520304
Archfriend
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>>164520304
Probably a dumb question, but do you get the chapter 7 ending? By getting 100%? I beat Abert but still have the ending where Neo Pentagon takes over, etc.
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>>164520604
Thanks. I'll do that.
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>>164520983
You have to character clear everyone and beat Abert.
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>>164520697
Archfriend? where do you find them?
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>>164521664
It is a rare encounter. I don't know if it can be found anywhere, but I found it in Hanny Plains. Be careful since it has a turn limit and ~40,000 hp though.
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>>164521664
I found it in the Disposal Dungeon. It has a low encounter rate, requires at least 5 units in your party & has a low time limit that increases every time you run into it.
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what the fuck did i run into
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>>164522802
ur fucked
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>>164523085
bombed in 1 hit
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How do I defeat Isaias and the Ice slag? I'm getting absolutely demolished.
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>>164523627
You don't. Just don't die.
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>>164524095
How many turns?
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>>164524095
>>164524431
I'm struggling here
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>>164524431
You can defeat them. But you need to be lucky with the stuns and have a high enough level to take out the meatshields quickly.
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>>164513239
Reminder that Annis is wearing equipment that vastly weaken her magic to allow her to better control it
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>>164524721
When was this said?
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>>164524721
Magic Lv3 users are truly 'Holy shit what the fuck' tier.
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>>164524621
I'm not that high level though, and i'm unable to survive for more than 6-7 turns
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>>164524943
What level are you? From what I remember, my first time challenging them was with Rance Lv35, and because I thought I had to win, I kept losing, but I'm sure I could've done it if I knew I just had to survive.
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Oh, I didn't know there was a special Alice opening for this particular day. Guess it has to do with the asian lunar new year?
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>>164525116
35 actually, the meatshields are blocking the stuns but if it's doable i'll keep trying
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>>164524778
Supplementary material
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>>164524823
Lv3s in general are. Except 3G.
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>>164525940
3G no longer has levels

>>164524778
supplementary material but its true
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>>164526230
I know but doesn't change the fact that he was at some point a Lv3.
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>>164526378
What was he a level 3 in? Government or something like that?
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>>164526501
Nutritionist LV3.
He probably is still good enough at that to be comparable to someone with a LV3 skill, it's just that it doesn't make any sense to give levels to youkai when they don't have souls.
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>didn't finish 6 fast enough to vote in the poll
fuck
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>>164526652
Nutritionist? Thats a weird one, would never have guessed that
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>>164526501
Someone with a Government Lv3 would be a balance breaker.
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Reminder that Nelson managed to get people to think Liberate the Motherland was a good idea using Conversation Level 2 and Am has Conversation Level 3
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>>164526665
you could have saved Kanami
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>>164527221
>a ninja that has to be saved by others
Useless!
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>>164527221
If I had voted Kanami would be third, Maria, Copandon and Sill would have been higher too. Doesn't look like anything else would change though.
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>>164527168
Am is like Sinbad in Magi. She was basically cheating.
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>>164509676
B-but Maria said if they go official Rance translations will speed up because she can work on the game all day rather than part time.

S-she wouldn't have lied to us, would she?
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So after you kill Demon Albert is there nothing else? I didnt get post game credits or anything. And if I choose the continuation ending option for some reason it says Neo Pentigon rose to action even though I destroyed them and that Albert is targeting urza even though I killed him

Basically im just wondering if there are any post game credits.
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How old is Am physically?
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>>164527803
>don't believe her lies
I still haven't forgiven the bitch.
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>>164527803
That is going to be the case when the games get licensed.
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>>164527868
You have to character-clear everyone. After that, you should get an option to pick the True End.
Fuck the Hanny King and the Archfriend.
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>>164526665
This, how the fuck should I have finished it if I was with my family from 24.12 to 1.1 and couldn't play any games? The game is super fucking long and even after playing 6 hours a day there is no way I could have finished it before the poll closed.
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>>164527803
DON'T
BELIEVE
HER
LIES
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I have full permissions but this shit still happens, cannot save anything. Anyone had the same problem?
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Maria > Magic in terms of cute glasses girls who deserve to suffer.
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>>164528164
Do you also have to do characters you don't use often like Bernard or Cessna, or just story related characters?
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>>164528735
Just story related ones. All the ones you can't fire and Kaoru. Not sure about Tamenagi.
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>>164528541
Save files are in the same folder the game is installed to so don't install it to your programs because newer version of windows require admin permission to make new files in your programs
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I just finished VI after getting home from work and went to vote but it's already closed. As such, I'll state my opinion here;

Kanami.

Thank you for listening.
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>>164529672
ur opinion a useless
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>>164529672
You got to vote for 10 characters from 6.
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>tfw you thought Natasha was kind of cute

Rance pls...
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>>164528164

Ive cleared everyone but Sel, Cessna, Megadeath, Prima, Bernard, and Tamenagi. Do these characters not have clears?

Im still not getting the True Ending option
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>>164529853
>Tattoo
>Huge nose

Into the Disposal Dungeon she goes.
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>>164529853
Annis killed her

>>164529864
Sel does
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>>164530008
>Sel does

Do you happen to know what I might be missing with her? I have maxed FR and ive visited the churches in Hanny Plain, Autumn Forest, and Italia
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>>164530118
There's one in the 3rd Test Site too. Try doing some missions until it appears in your roster.
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>>164529771
Just like best girl<3

>>164529804
I know but I don't remember the specifics of every category. I was just reiterating that Kanami a best.
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>>164529169
I didn't install the Rance 5D, it was ready to go. All I did was start the game and that happened. Rance VI works fine, it's just Rance 5D that does this. Every guide I see says it's a problem with permissions, but I've got full permission for everything. It's just not saving.
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>>164530118
Speaking of churches, is Ros in quest? I'm surprised she was even in VI.
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>>164530118
The 3rd Test dungeon

>>164530521
Rose isn't
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>>164530701
>>164530240

Thanks that seems to be the one I was missing.
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>>164528541
>>164530515
It's the TADA's curse!
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>>164531050
I know I'm a retard, but all I have a new computer, and it runs VN's fine all the time. I've played the Rance 1, the remade Rance 2, Rance 3, Kichikuou, Sengoku, all run fine. But I downloaded the 5D/Rance VI collection yesterday and 5D keeps giving me this shit. VI works fine, but 5D doesn't seem to be able to save.

The only solutions I've seen to the whole "read-only" situation is to set all folders to give me full permission, but they're already like that. I can't believe I'm the only one with this problem.
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TADA is cancer of rance series
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>>164529864
Tamenagi
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>>164531575
>>164531575
Move the folder to your documents
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>>164531575
Just don't put them in the C (or whatever your system) folder is. Also
>the remade Rance 2
For what purpose?
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>>164531724
Because that is the translated version.
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>>164531724
Well its either that or the original
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>>164532419
>>164531891
What about the digest? I did that for I and II. III was fun, though.
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>>164531575
If the problem persists, you should try Emailing the MG support.
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>>164521972
>it has a turn limit
Of 1? It ran the very first turn for me.
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>>164532647
"hello mangagamer. The game I downloaded from nyaa doesn't work. "
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>>164532908
there's your problem
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>>164532908
I'm not sure what advice to give other than move it to a different drive or look over the past threads.

I think I saw one other person with a similar issue, but I cannot remember if they solved the problem or not. Worth a look though
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>>164532908
>nyaa
That's your problem.
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>>164531671

Are you sure he has a clear? Ive captured every gal monster have full FR and have that robot chick from the mission he gives you and he still isnt cleared.

Also where can I find the Archfiend post game, thats the last boss I need to beat.
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New OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/bRNZdkx0

Also includes the Rance VI FAQ
http://pastebin.com/WVUfpeKr
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>>164533302
>>164533464
Yeah because torrents from nyaa never work and piracy is always buggy and illegal anyways, right?

I bought the game but holy shit stop moralfagging on 4chan or fuck off.
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How to complete the Zeth Corridor maze. When Anise/King Gandhi will power up the mana battery.
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>>164533520
did you kill the archfriend?
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>>164533780

No thats who im currently looking for, hopefully once I beat it the true ending will come up.
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>>164533649
Not moralfagging but I suspect the other person with that issue also got it from the same source.

The mega link of 5D has had no issues
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>>164533520
The Archfriend appears randomly. Anywhere.

>>164533649
I just told you that the one from nyaa may have been buggy, cuz it seems the one that was posted here threads ago had no problems.
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>>164533520
Tamenagi has a clear
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>>164533649
I think they're just saying the nyaa one is bad.
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>>164534015
How? He doesn't give me anything else and I've already captured all galmons and got the semen demon.
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>>164533917
you don't need to kill archfriend for the true ending though if you don't want to go through the trouble of finding him
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>>164473582
>42 buns of one type
nigga how hard did you grind???
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>>164534183
He also has a special event not entirely sure how it appears but maybe you should try some stuff and see if it pops up at some point i think it only costs a crab orb
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>>164534370
Does he appear with the COMPLETED thing?
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>>164534340
That's my post game 100% complete file so quite a bit, doesn't bother me much though as I love VI's gameplay
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>>164534718
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>>164534845
Huh, so Patton never stops offering the FR mock fights? I'd wondered if I fucked that up by giving him presents, since everyone else's FR events disappeared at 30. Not sure why he's still not cleared, though...
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Do I have to capture Sanakia to get her back or can I just defeat her?
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>>164535070
Did you beat the dreadnought--class enemy?
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>>164534718
have you tried talking about training results with him again?
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>>164534845

I wonder if it has anything to do with that gal monster you get from rocky, I got her and lost her without having Tamenagi in my party. Maybe he had a special event with her, fuck.
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>>164535207
Yeah, just the same thing about how to not trust men who say that.
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>>164535325
she doesn't
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ONE CARROT AH AH AH
TWO CARROT AH AH AH
THREE CARROT AH AH AH

Very disappointed Rance didn't rape the head btw
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>>164535513
That's a little too much, even for him
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>>164535513
Rance is a rapist, not a degenerate.
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>>164535513
>Head is programmed to eat the carrots you give it
>hey let's stick my dick in it, what could possibly go wrong
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>>164535584
Guess I'll have to wait until maggot baits is out then.
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>>164535659
Didn't stop him from putting his dick in crazy.
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>>164535826
New thread with updated pastebin
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>>164513440
Put a hanny zippo on everyone but Rance or Patton, because no one else is surviving one of the King's attacks. Also if you have robot girl put a hanny-smashing permit on her, it helps with clearing out the supers. Finally, make sure to activate serious mode on everyone, it really helps.
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>>164535193
Yeah, I cleared out the doodle dragon[/url] in the abandoned mine.
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Shit I met Papaya and got her key but accidentally skipped the messages. Where do I go from here? Where the fuck did Papaya go
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>>164534071
Yeah, turns out that was the issue. I got the mega file and it works fine now.
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>>164520304
How do you get the Kakaro right?
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>>164516059
How do people deal with the horrible interface of KR? Just keep notes on your commanders and stats on a pad and paper? Clicking a kajillion times to get stats for people made me drop the game but maybe I'm just missing something. Or just lazy.

I'm 33 so I grew with some games where I mapped shit out on graph paper, but I usually don't really have patience that kind of thing anymore (Etrian Odyssey's maps were an exception).
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