/ss13g/ - Spessman on a Spess Station General

1st for laughing when newfags tell you how to do your job

>>164303060
What's defficiency?

Hug the vox race acceptance now

>>164303060
fucking finally

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN PAIN FINALLY KILLED THE METACLUB?

>>164303060
Post the Julia picture you mentioned.

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ah yes, "australia"

>>164303171
>Weekends only
It's shit obviously, but I have to admit that it does create a sort of withdrawal effect for the players and makes the parties seem more valuable. But again, that is a fair point.
>Clique and metaclub supreme
>Literal e-penis and admin butt buddy system
Again, a fair point, metagaming is a thing sometimes but I hate how on most servers you have no way of playing with bros properly. Playing in groups/with friends is alright if self moderation is applied by said people, so you have two choices, trust people and hope for the best ignoring some meta situations (lifeweb), or make it fully banable (most SS13 servers).
>Dude film grain everywhere lmao
Not a valid complaint and a shitty opinion at best. Color graded sprites and filters do genuenly create thematically consistent feel for the server, which is lacking for almost every other byond game with constant sprites and coloring that does not fit each other.
Might I remind you that there was a discussion about introducing a color palete for /vg/ at some point, that discussion started for a reason.
>Presented to you by Microsoft Powerpoint
Lower tickrate is necessary for the more complicated combat and interactive system, if shit would be super fast changing styles and whatnot would be almost useless and pointless.
As for actual lag, it's not frequent and never happens to Ruskies, it's a price that mostly Murricans have to pay.

Most of these are valid criticisms, but you also have to admit what I've said before, one Russian drug addict churns out more complicated systems and regular updates, more than even the biggest servers like Goon.

You know very well that if Lifeweb code would be leaked a lot of stuff from it, especially the life code itself would be very valuable. The very fact that a solo coder can outdo servers says a lot.

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>>164303283
map made by a faggot
http://ss13.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=259
http://ss13.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=260

does duny even exist anymore

>>164303359
Here.

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>>164303857

>>164303631
Some lads say that the base code is ancient Lunar stuff, so development of lifeweb took years to get to this point, and if the source code was leaked, it would be nigh unreadable or salvageable aside from just the 1 (one) guy who sat in his spaghetti fortress for at least 8 years.

It is pure condensed supreme autism, and I'm not even sure either Randy is a hardcore krokodil addict, or someone/something else was involved in the development of the whole system.

benis

>>164303857
Why is there a bell pepper?

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>>164304715
This is a family-friendly Christian board you fuck.

>>164304715
wenis

>>164304760
tenis

>>164305317
bepis

butt

>>164305896
butt butt

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>>164305996
Did you just butt me?

>no 2017 folder for logs
Panic

the secret to playing sec;

be polite, be professional, and have a plan to taze everyone you meet
people are much easier to keep under control when you aren't playing the SS to the HoS' hitler

how the fuck do the solar array kits work, do they just add fuck all for power and you need a million of them? does the glass you use matter at all?

>those ling performances

wew

>join as CE
>nothing really to do
>do some superficial optimizations of waste then decide to go spacing for a bit
>find a rogue AI core and snag an antimov board
>immeeeeeeediately max out every antag setting
>bleb hits the station
>go home disappointed

Fun fighting the blob though! Those inflatable walls really help stretch the supplies.

>>164307140
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Solars

can we just nerf the blob already
the entire crew needs there own personal emitter to beat it
lasers do fucking nothing

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>>164307138
my secret is to play warden ;)

>>164307280
well that would certainly explain it, I was using regular glass

>>164307325
Have you tried two people shooting at the same spot at the same time
It really works wonders

>yfw ailsa will never notice you

makes me sad

That round as HoS was pain. Good though.
IC in LOOC is still IC in OOC.

>yfw butt will never butt you

makes butt sad

>>164307325
We had destroyed 8/10ths of the blob when the shuttle was called.

The shift didn't end cause of the blob. The shift ended because someone used the blob as an excuse.

>>164307541
What was the purpose of robocop? I didn't see fuck all going on.

>>164307646
It was a little heavy in the prison wing, did Quentin end up getting left there?

>>164307184
>see you install a fuck on of heat exchange plates
>immediately put on a suit because I was sure we were going to get celted
nothing more disturbing than pipe work where there shouldn't be pipe work

>>164307184
>immeeeeeeediately max out every antag setting
what did you expect this to do lmao

>>164307349
exactly. learn also how to wire without too much struggle:
>>164105535

>>164307690
Dean wanted to while we were in the AI core.
I allowed him too. I couldn't even remember how add new lawsets it had been so long. Card and reset is usually all I ever need to do.

>>164307803
if an admin pushes buttons for it it could happen

>>164307184
>see butt install a fuck on of heat exchange plates
>immediately put on a suit because I butt sure we were butt to get celted
nothing more disturbing butt pipe work where there shouldn't be butt work

>>164307803
Put me in the pool if an admin pushed create antag.

>>164307768
thanks celtic

all it did was ensure that any fire didn't overstress the system, resulting in clogging and loss of efficiency.

>>164307739
Yeah that one was an actual player controlled blob. But everywhere else was just AI blobs and easily dealt with.

Security never relayed how bad it was to engineering/common. We would have focused on it.

>>164307970
Must have been Quentin himself. So we lost nobody. I didn't actually know how bad it was until I went up there at about 3 minutes to shuttle.
I was putting out a dozen other fires including somebody who wouldn't stop IC in LOOCing at me.
I wasn't involved in the calling at all, why did the shuttle launch so early?

>>164308317
It didn't. the captain and CMO authorized an early launch but I refused to be the last one and launch it because there was no bleb

>>164308448
Unadulterated faggotry from the pair of them. Me and the HoP ling were in the secpod. Well done RD.

>>164307847

I uploaded robocop in case the HoP was tricky and purged/onehuman'd/core freeform'd the borgs

turns out even if the HoP used that module it wouldn't do anything (kill all humans doesn't really work when law 1 overrides it) but I wanted to be safe

is vg13 really dead?

>>164309614
wut?

>>164309986
deserted

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>blue APC in the hall
>nobody noticed

>>164311387
Because he killed the deputy warden and warden at the same time in the AI upload. Really nice work crushing me with the door while lasering him.

>>164311387
I was wondering about that too.
In the end I went Delta on 29 hacked APCs

>>164311387
Gotta get dem valids on the clown and mime

>>164311387
>expecting sec to have any awareness whatsoever

Most sec officers have only one mindset;
>muh valids
And if the valids aren't waving a flashing neon sign at them saying "I M VALID", hell, even if they ARE, they probably won't notice.

>>164311387
It's just charging bro. Nothing to be worried about. Remain calm.

>agree to be acting HoS for god knows why
>cant even open armoury and bridge when shit gets fucked

JUST

>>164311729
yeah, the head of personnel had a very loose view of what our titles were supposed to mean, he didn't even actually give me warden access the first time I asked, only changed my title
I still think having deputies is useful though

>>164301637
Medbay.
Honestly? I think I have, I haven't seen anything new in a while.

>>164301637
medbay
maybe, I don't know, i put more effort into doing my job well so i don't have time to experiment with secret shit

>>164311242
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

You might be on the test server or something.

>>164311812
it was a good idea but playing any kind of head role still gives me the spooks

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>tfw r&d went pretty good after employing a cat

Who do you ship spessmen with?
Who do you ship rail with?

>>164312204
I ship both with toolboxes

>>164311729
I despise playing HoS. Though I think I would make a good one. Is there any way to play HoS without stressing the fuck out?

>>164312327
Play captain and ignore everything but security radio

>>164312327

L
A
W


also you don't have to beg for access

>>164312519
>Play captain and ignore everything but security radio
>how to be a condom101

>>164312327
HoS is a job that requires you to have no soul and no fun, and think of THE LAW only.
Be ready to deal with all of the retarded assistants greytiding for muh robusness and the clown can be your greatest ally or worst enemy.

;HELP VOX IS TAKING ME TO DORMS

;vox have sale on human organs in dorms, good price

me grabs Tikikaka by the cloaca.

>>164307436
Kill yourself Ailsa

>>164312204
I ship yourself with the the /suicide verb

>>164312536
>>164312327
How to deal with lack of access as security
>Get ye battering ram
>Remove doors

>>164311884
How much have you messed around with time release pills?

>>164311571
>Blink light next to security officer
>They don't notice

>>164313214
speaking of organs
why there's no recipes for other organs?
why i can't eat a fried liver with potatoes?
why there's no onions?
why i can't cook limbs?

>Shitters in medbay who dont add a bit of Plasma to the mix for an extra KICK


Explain yourselves

>>164313564
when you sprite it

>>164313564
>other organs
I mean there are brain recipes, ass recipes, and a generic organ burger as well

Also you can make gelatin from teeth

>>164313618
>using plasma instead of milk+vomit
read the fucking wiki newfag

>>164312327
the one thing i want from HoS as an officer is communication. take charge and give orders, dont just be le edgy cool coat man

>>164311729
>>164311812

Yeah, I genuinly fucked that up. My bad.

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>>164313445
I tried my hardest to make them work, the only two semi-viable results I got are here.
I don't really use them much. Instant Flash COULD be useful if you niggered a medical hardsuit from EVA and wore it around but then I would hate you.

Reminder that deaf, blind, armless, legless, and fat is the ultimate powergame
>can't be cuffed
>can't be bola'd
>can't be flashed
>flashbang and HONK does nothing to you
>free magboots and immunity to slip at roundstart
>lings need a special sting to penetrate your blubbery body

>Cap promotes me to HOP
>It's vampires
>Our chaplain died somehow
>Another Head wanted me to "increase the number of chaplain slots so another can sign up"
Is this even possible?

Are there any secret tricks to gaining credits that the captain won't tell you and will make the vox HATE you and all the waifus love you?

>>164314050
on TG.
here it's an admin only thing

>>164314436
>and all the waifus love you?
No tricks for waifufaggots
Enjoy your poor life masturbating to shitty sprites being controlled by a fat neckbeard

>>164314436
And basically, you at fucking retarded

yes

>>164314037
Why not keep one arm?

>>164314778
it was a joke about clickbait ads, but I actually am interested in ways to get credits besides paychecks and cargo related jobs

>>164314436
1. Obtain DDrill Ripley
2. Mine shit tons of plasma

>>164315150
I know, anon
I'm just a sperg
Mining can get you a shit load of dosh
Mind powers let you see the pin number of someone, so you can go to any head and unload all their fucking sweet department cash into your fucking poorfag pda

>>164311571
This is completely untrue. I spend most of my time detaining random non-antag shitters. This is why I am suprised to encounter a genuine antag like a changeling or malf.

>>164312774
The other radios are really quite, and last time I tried the command headset it picked up the other channels but didn't allow you to speak except for command and sec.

>>164315743
>alt + click the headset or grab headset and click on it
>enable other departmens
>learn the difference between .s and .e
thats it

>>164316102
When was this changed? Was it that way before?

>>164315564
This is generally my experience as Sec too. For every 5 greytide shitter non-antags you arrest you might get one actual tatortot or succ

>that level of HoPcurity

for what purpose

>Be diana nymph
>just walking around the station not bothering anyone
>walk into HOP office
>guard outside pulls out laser rifle wants to kill me
>HOP thinks I don't want to be a nymph and tries to zap me with the staff of change
>turn me into some green shit
>tell him no
>he ignores this and tries to put it back in his locked locker
>try to take it from him
>he responds with chloral, then lasering me to death
how much of a shitter can one man be?

>>164316618
>diana nymph
lewd

>>164316582
I should have cracked down harder on it but by the time it was in full swing shit was fucked anyway.

t. HoS

>>164316618
Why are all heads such garbage players?

>>164316618
>nonantag HoP with chloral

>HoP shows up the brig within 5 minutes
>Proceeds to, in his own words, "loot" the brig
>Steals a shotgun and the lethal shells, goes hunting wizards
>Refuses to return their shit when the wiz is confirmed dead
>Arrests the detective for changing staff of changed humans back to normal

Just play sec so I can demote you.

Also, Zenny, kill yourself. IRL.

>>164316582
>>164316618
You better have ahelped too.

>>164316618
>Be diana nymph
this right here is when you became 100% valid and I was 100% in the right for trying to laser you

>>164316696
I did ahelp, admin responded but I don't know if any actio nwas taken, HOP was on the shuttle though

>>164316693
packed into an upgraded syringe gun

>>164316693
>nonantag takes the whole box of shells in wiz round

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>164316618
bUt DiD u AhElP iT?????

>>164316689
Why not play head and make a difference? Or better yet why not play captain and watch over them?

>>164316752
Same, "I'll look into it." And then nothing happens.

>>164316745
yeah man, gotta get them valids, I'm with you. The second I get any chance to kill, I take it.

>>164316696

>actually kills the wizard

>detective runs off with my staff and starts memeing borgs with it, atleast as far as i could tell

sue me

>>164316862
It's not the valids, it's about the fact that 100% of diona nymphs that don't evolve are just little shits who use their all-access to steal anything that's not wrenched down and stun and trip anyone who tries to stop them

>>164316696
You could have arrested him, and demoted him.

>http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law

>Abuse of Power

If you wanted to be straight about it, you would get an IAA involved.

just pray its not Kurt

>>164316818
yes, if he only chloraled me I wouldn't bother, shit thing to do, but it wasn't worth an admin. Needlessly killing me though is different

>>164316974
i checked manifest, there was no IAA unless he joined very late

>>164314037
>not knowing the secret to true powergame disabilities
peg legs feel no pain and dont count against your total health

>>164316974
I was the Warden, so I realistically couldn't.

I handed out whatever lethals weren't stolen by the HoP for fighting wizards and xenos, and spent the rest of the round trying to collect them back in.

I never saw those two 45s, an egun, a laser pistol, and two shotguns ever again.

>>164316971
oh no, someone might steal something, better murder them

>>164317160
If that's all they do, yes, they're fucking worthless and should be killed

>>164316971
You do know that nymphs can't ventcrawl if they have any items on them, right. They don't actually have all access for stealing things.

>>164317221
sure, wait till they do it then.

>>164316971
Molenga is that you? Remember that racism memes doesn't mean you can kill someone for no raisin.

>>164317649
>Wait
There's no point in waiting, literally every single one does it

>>164317925
oh yes, the nymph who has barely any access might somehow steal an e-gun he can't use and stun people.

>>164318015
vents = all-access

>>164318015
I think you're stupid if the only thing you think can stun is an e-gun. Not only that, but you act like that's the only thing they steal.

>>164318171
Which they can't use if they have any item on them.

why do so many of you like being mad for no reason?

>>164316893
>as far as i could tell
all you did was say "GIB STAFF" and forcefully tried to remove it before going for the energy gun

the borg had just nearly died to a xeno

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>Shitter refers to spacelaw to reduce their sentence.
>You take your time to read over it again incase it has changed.
Sparking a manhunt, tresspass, breaking and entering, possession of a weapon, creating a workplace hazard, interfering with an arrest, unauthorised modification of AI laws, grand theft, and the grand multiplier recividism.
All these gems I had forgotten.

>>164318759
A lot of them don't stack though.

>>164318226
what are they going to steal to stun people with?

>>164318759
In case of a conflict between sentences (for instance Theft and Grand Theft), apply the higher one and cancel out the other. Note that stacking different sentences (Murder and Grand Theft) is fine although Perma is preferable for extreme streaks of crime.
Sentences themselves also don't stack. Consider upgrading sentences but don't apply a Theft or Assault sentence multiple times. At worst, find a middle ground and apply a custom sentence.

So make sure you commit all your crimes at once :^]

>>164319452
Thankfully all you need is grand theft.

>>164319492
I just don't know anon, out of the plenty of ways you can slip and stun people across the station most of which are guarded by windows, I just don't know.

>>164318391
>tell you to hand it over
>get literally ignored
not responding to your problems wont solve em my dude. do you have aspbergers ?

>>164319452
The only ones I can find that don't stack is tresspass and B&E.

In theory if you arrest a grey in the captain's quarters with his spare you have two charges: Grand theft and if he destroyed the wall you have Major B&E. That's already thirty minutes right there, if he runs you can add sparking a manhunt and resisting arrest. If he assaults an officer or kills one we're approaching station time: 13:00.
Where does it state you can't do this?

It even says you can implant people who commit only medium crimes. Rev up those trackers.

>>164320260
>someone breaking into the fucking captains office to steal the spare
>not just perma'ing them as Space Law says
You can perma people for a fucking hand tele

>>164319854
so they would have to ventcrawl in, wait to be let out, to slip. Therefore they should be killed on sight, whether in the process of stealing or not

>>164320163
You had no authority, are you autistic?

>>164320372
muh grand theft

>>164320260
>Warden and HOS kill people all the time without the Captains permission
>Warden and HOS never use implants because "muh" wot if they have a freedom implant, i cant powergame with these.

>>164320260
Does anybody ever create a hidden wall to get into the Captain's quarters at roundstart anymore?

>>164320498
no point in arguing any further famalam

>>164320489
I said windows, those easily breakable things. But even further, I meant to say windoors, which due to how stupid they work are left almost always open.

>>164320574
Most people just hack or "AI LAW 2"

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>round start
>chemist
>have chemistry all to myself
>awww yeah
>immediately 2 doctors and a borg comes in and starts making shit for themselves using my beakers
>making cryo mix and pills
>doctor opens door for mechanic to come in start scanning my shit
>around 5 people in chemistry at this point
>I rage at them at switch jobs

when will these fuckers stick to their own job? You don't see me seeing sick patients come in and immediately try to help them, or bust into virology and start making anti bodies when there is a virologist. fuck man

>>164320589
Of course, no point in arguing when you have no arguments.

> Beat the clown to death for disarming him/snowballing him while he was trying to send a fax, as a regular sec officer. Left the clown afterwards. Did not request permission for the execution. Admitted he escalated the situation poorly, was aware what he did was wrong, and has barely any notes. Any sort of shittery of this type in the future will result in increased punishment, you are being given a second chance of sorts. Take some time off from security and come back to it with a fresh perspective.
Be honest.
you'd do the same thing if a shitter clown disarmed you JUST as you were about to finish a fairly entertaining fax that took you a few minutes to write and you lost all of your progress writing it as a result

As a miner. I've come to the conclusion that if the roboticist doesn't have the Ripley finished by the time I get there, they have no idea what they are doing, and that the mats would be better given to RND for a drill.

>Ripley
>Clamp
>Extra batteries

when the miner gets there:
>Diamond Drill
>Utility item

Its not hard, its literally just queing the parts and going AFK for 5 minutes.

>>164320702
I wouldn't beat him to death. I'd remove his hands and feet, then straitjacket muzzle him in the bar

>>164320547
We must learn to make use of all our tools, there is so much in that department that escapes use.

>>164320665
My primary argument would be that the staff is rightfully mine since I killed the wiz. You could have atleast responded when I tried to talk to you about it - I asked who had the staff over the radio multiple times.

>>164320663
I agree
People having access to everything in their department was a mistake

>>164320702
>He doesn't write all of his faxes in notepad
>He doesn't write notes in notepad
>He doesnt copy and paste everything into the game.

Are you dumb?

>>164320702
>wahh clown disarmed me
deal with it, honk

>>164320702
That's retarded, you do not lose any progress with paper writing, unless you are retarded enough to fucking close the window

>>164320702
who are you

>>164320663
I left the moment you entered, though. In fact, you weren't even IN chemistry when I entered.
I've also had only one or two chemist in recent memory out of all of them who knew how to make a mix. Combine that with there often just not being a chemist and you have the reasons doctors to chemistry.
But yes, people should have left when they saw there was a chemist and hoped against hope you would miraculously be one of the few who did their job

>>164320846
>the staff is rightfully mine
Good one.
>You could have atleast responded when I tried to talk to you about it
Shooting eguns in reply when I talked to you is not talking
>I asked who had the staff over the radio multiple times.
And I said I had it on security.

Stop being retarded, familia.

>>164320547
What does freedom have to do with chem or tracking

All this talk of space law and how it can be used against security reminds me to inform all of you that security only cares about valids and doesn't give a shit about space law.

>be IAA
>have notice security executing a greytider for a minor crime
>inform security that the crime he committed is 5 minutes at MAX
>they ignore me and execute him anyways
>tell them that abuse of power is grounds for immediate demotion and some brig time
>they tell me that if I try to demote anyone they'll bash my head in with their batons
>take it up with the HoS
>they agree, stomp my face in, take my ID, and tell HoP not to help me
Truly immersive roleplaying experience

>>164321085
>implying the staff is NOT rightfully mine on this serb
Good one.
>And I said I had it on security.
If thats the case then I honestly missed it. Guess this could have been avoided.

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>>164321150
Only in death is crime truly stopped. All good officers know this.

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13213

Don't forget to login in your github and downvote the retard faggot straight out of hippie trying to shit our server.

>>164321462
>hippie
>not bay

>>164321150
When did this occur, do you have the logs?
Did you make any attempt to alert the admins to this?
We must all work together to create an effective security service. A burnt out HoS is as dangerous as a greytider. Report shitcurity especially if it is as blatant as this.

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>>164320663
>be chemist
>:m There's clonex in the fridge
>doctor barges in
>WHERE'S THE PLASMA
>WHERE'S THE PLASMA
>ejects the beaker from the dispenser that I am using to make the slowest batch of clonex this universe has seen

>>164321462
It's not that bad.

>>164321754
Too long ago to matter now. Should have ahelped it when I could have. I was somewhat new and was under the impression that only whiny babies ahelped.

>>164321856
>Not making the mix/Making bio mass for the cloner
It is your fucking job you hack.

>>164321856
>There's clonex in the fridge
Where's the rest of the mix or is this for biomass?

>>164322005
>>164322076
I AM making the mix you dip, I even said so in :m and somehow wannabe superdoc #2 can never read it.
While I'm making the rest of the mix, the doctors usually want to make the synthmeat before I get around to it, which is why I tell them where the clonex is. If nobody has by the time I finish the mix plus the main 4 chems I'll do it.

>>164322202
>I even said so in :m and somehow wannabe superdoc #2 can never read it.
>anybody ever reading department radio
I can sent ten straight messages of ':n Miners, please respond' and get no responses.

>>164322398
That means they're cultists and you should gun them down if they try coming inside of three tiles of you.

>>164322398
You know, that's funny. I also sent ten straight messages of ":n Hey how is research doing, can I pick up some supplies for Medbay? We're doing organ repair surgery with fucking gauze, please respond" with the Geneticist headset and got no response.

>>164322465
>>164322601
The sole saving grace of this phenomenon is that I can also set a buttbot near a radio turned to a department frequency and nobody will complain.

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Happening right now. Happy New Years ss13

>>164320663
If I got one wish it'd be to revert this bullshit now and forever.

Giving doctors chemistry access drove away chemistry as a useful job.

http://www.lileks.com/institute/gallery/index.html
chef's cooking

>>164323218
If I got one wish it'd be to jobban shitty Scientists and Engineers.

>>164323218
REMOVE EXTENDED ACCESS

>>164323804
That's a really hard thing to do because you have to give new ones the chance to learn and they look indistinguishable.

I worked HARD to make security a welcoming job and dispel the sarca myth that picking sec was only good for getting banned and killed by assistants.

Aside from a bag of holding, and diamond drill, what are some other useful things I can ask the autists in science for?

>>164324306
Trauma kit.

>>164321050
I know who you are, you weren't bad and did leave after seeing me. And I do know why they give access to doctors, its just extremely annoying that I cant leave for a minute to get a couple large beakers without chemistry being over run as if people need the tubes/fridge fully stocked 30 seconds into the round

>>164324306
A lexorin pill to off your fucking retarded powergaming ass
Fucking miners are always the worst shitters

>>164324306
bluespace beakers/botany injector(forget what its called)

>see that grey chemist making nothing but mutagen again

>metaclub withs with 7% chance
>its malf

>>164324306
Bag of holding is a double-edged sword. It holds more but fucks with jaunters and telescience.

>>164320663
>>164323873
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/13214

Fine let's talk about it and see if people agree. If we don't talk, we won't do.

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>>164324306
>Miners calling anyone autistic
Please, mining is the most autistic job
>go on the roid to avoid other people
>literally the most monotonous task
>screams when they don't get their way
>think it's okay to kill anyone that gets near them
>can't understand social cues
>doesn't notice the goliath pounding them in the chest until it shatters their ribs

>>164324306
A D-D Ripley instead of that pleb-tier drill.

>>164324387
How the fuck is that powergaymen

>>164324569
thanks, will contribute

>>164324569
>Round start
>MD and parameds bash open the windows

>>164325172
Yeah but that's something to work with.

>>164324569
Ill say this here probe, so, don't just ignore it like certain coders.

If you are a doctor, you can already do surgery and such, and it isn't restricted to surgeons only, and for good reason, because these restrictions never actually helped anyone at all.

You are at the whims of some random chemist in every shift then, and when they, inevitably, don't show up, which will happen, a lot, you will just see people busting down the windows with a toolbox, almost every single dang shift.

This is not a good change, no matter if docs are sometimes shitters, that is a player issue, but you are doing a QoL removal from medbay by not allowing people who don't pick a extremely monotonous job roundstart or later from acessing one of medbays most crucial elements, the chemicals from chemistry. I understand where you are coming from with this and where the frustration of shitter docs comes from, but this will just make me bust down the window to get to chem, me and every other doc around. That is not something to work with, that's a inherent flaw from removing the harmless and practical, you are then forcing mds to then go and be chemists by profession if they want to be doctors, just so they can make the mixes to make medbay even remotely work.

You will do nothing but promote window breaking for achieving the goals of the department to anyone who doesn't want to be the snowflake alt title doctor, you really want to encourage people breaking in because they didn't put their name to the correct thing? What next, you make mds get welders and decon the surgery walls because then they can't get into surgery? Its a bad change that helps nobody and encourages a mentality of tiding to get what you want and need, in medbay of all places, you are primarily a mapper probe, you should know better than to disregard how access changes can manipulate player mentality and well, gameplay.

>>164326089
>you will just see people busting down the windows with a toolbox, almost every single dang shift
Simple fix.
Make the chem dispensers and chemmasters in Chemistry themselves require Chemist or CMO access.

Literally dead

>>164326089
Security Jail Cells only work if you have a security ID and no one's complaining about that so you're point is wrong fampai. You don't see people breaking security apart to jail people.

Why would it be such a problem put anywhere else on station?

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>>164325284
Let's all take a second to thank MrPain for ridding us of all the shitters.

Reminder that NASA can't even compete with us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhGydridbEA

>>164326089
>Ill say this here
say it in the fucking github

>>164326089
this is a terrible arguement. You are at the whims of a shit player in any job be it captain HoS, HoP or Warden. This does not warrant someone breaking in and stealing an outfit claiming there are HoS because the other is shit. Shit players is part of this game in any role.

>>164326089
If you are breaking windows to bust into chemistry, you are a fucking idiot. It's as simple as that. Do you know how easy it is to unscrew a window? Chemistry doesn't have full windows, just four panes. You will spend just as much time smashing it as just moving the panes out of your way, and it really isn't hard to come across the correct tools. It's not even electrified, you don't need gloves.
I've played enough assistant-in-medbay to know you're dumb as a brick if you resort to smashing windows to get in, because then people have a legitimate reason to smash your head in or get you arrested for the entire round because now ANYONE can just walk through.

>>164324569
REMOVE WARDENS
GIVE SECURITY OFFICERS ARMORY ACCESS

>>164326654
A bad chemist is going to stall medbay completely.
A shit HoS, HoP, Warden, and captain wont stall your department

Hilariously boring game for newbie.

>>164326901
>what is blob/nuke/wizard/raiders

hurrrrrr

>>164326218
>Forcing people to go with snowflake alt medical job titles
>Forcing normal players to go cmo when they just want to be doctors
>All because some chemists become pissy when docs also use the chem dispensers

Unless you make them hackable to have no access requirement, fuck no.
>>164326348
Except nobody except sec wants or needs jail cell acess, and other people will just kill whoever is being a prick with a toolbox instead of jailing them, because its quicker.

Breaking into sec is also suicide by stunbaton, so its not even aplicable or comparable. It would be much more apt if now, only the warden could jail people, thing is, warden is atleast barely played and when they are played, they are for the most part, half decent, while chemists are dogshit for no good reason.
>>164326587
no
>>164326654
When you make the entire departments ability to function based on a never played role that is well known to be incompetent on the whims of said , mostly incompetent, players, you are needlessly restricting medbay, no, you are outright crippling it, no mix, no meat, a random retard and medbay will generate enough salt to kill the next 500 shifts worth of borers. If it slightly slowed the department, sure, but this, is is outright going to make your entire department unable to function, and base its working ability on chemists, the most autistic of all medbay players, virologists not included.

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>>164326924
See you next shift

>>164327039
>Forcing
Okay tumblr
You don't have to play a role if you don't want to, though, no one is making you. Keep making up more hyperbole for your shitter agenda if you think it'll help pad out your long posts if you want

>>164327120
Not really. I played for a couple of months, trying to understand fun of it, but I just don't get it.

>>164327039
>Unless you make them hackable to have no access requirement, fuck no.
You can change access from doors rather easily and maybe soon you'll be able to ask engiborgs to do it for you.

>>164327258
why on earth did you play a game you didnt have fun with for MULTIPLE months?

>>164324569
>MDs not having chem access
This would actually make me want to play medbay jobs. I can clone, do surgery, and all that stuff, but I am NOT going to be forced to do chem autism.

>>164327039
>Can't use cells
>"It's okay we'll just let them die"

>Can't use chemistry
>"It's not okay to just let them die"

??????

>>164327337
I have a lot of free time, so I play and read a lot of different stuff. Some of which isn't that interesting from the beginning.

>>164324569
>>164326089
Basically this. Like, this entire post right here.
Chemists are fucking useless cunts, Probe. The complaints of the few non-shitty ones do not outweigh the needs of an entire department, and the fact of the matter is, chemists are 9/10 times, absolute utter shit.

There was a fucking reason MDs got chem access, and that's because Chemists cannot be trusted to not fuck up their job, and if you have no pills, no mix, no biomass as an MD, then your job is fucking over.

>>164327497
>There was a fucking reason MDs got chem access, and that's because Chemists cannot be trusted to not fuck up their job

They got it because everyone got extended access.

>>164327482
reading a book that has a build up for a week or two != playing shitty atmos sim for months

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>>164327497
>replying to your own posts

>>164326089
Yeah, and if you try to do chem to actually learn how to do those chemicals, you are yelled at and ignored all the time.

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>>164327650
Fuck off, Chemshitter.

>>164327795
>playing /vg/station to learn/be new

Do you want a ban or something?

>>164327582
said extended access only happened because said jobs were always not done properly
lots of experienced doctors but no chemist that made actual medicine
atmos techs not doing the engine because they didnt feel responsible for it
empty robotics or RnD and vice versa

Have you noticed that the people who have upboated the "Lock chemistry to chemists" are coders who literally don't even play medbay?

Really got my nogging working.

>>164327795
>learn
Ask for help, retard. Don't stand there going 'oh no i kno what i m doing' for 20 minutes while the entire department waits for you to finish your fucking job.

Lock robotics and robotics machines to roboticists when?

>>164327945
And going constantly "help me with this, help me with that" is much better?

>>164328056
>Make RnD even more of a chore than it already is by forcing scientists to take the longer method

Idiot.

>>164328062
It'll make it easier for me to convice the HoP to get you demoted and out of the fucking way instead of blocking chemistry access like a retard

>>164328062
Yes, dumbass. The majority of experienced doctors are willing to help you if you ask for it, and them having to help is a whole lot better than the alternative by making everyone wait far, far fucking longer than they should for what is literally the lifeblood of medbay.

>>164327232
Now, apparently I will have to go chemist or cmo, otherwise, if I don't, medbay will be crippled and have absolutely no mix. That sounds like gameplay forcing me to do a role anon, don't know about you, but that sounds like Im being forced to do a job I don't like in order to be able to have my intention, to help people, be possible.
>>164327280
So, now, instead of having mds be able to use chemistry and have no real issues with this ability to access, I will either have to play a role I don't want, one with too much responsability, or have to depend on engineering borgs to fix what didn't use to be a issue.
>>164327449
>Greyshit McSyndie does illegal shit and pisses everyone off by being a cunt
>gets killed instead of permad or jailed, shift goes on as usual
>Autist McTricordMix chemist is predictably shit and made it so medbay is almost useless, or he doesn't even exist
>Anybody killed now will either have a rather high chance not to get revived due to lack of biomass, will get healed much slower, mix is now abysmally slower, medbay is no longer even remotely fun to play, shift is now heavily afected by this, people leave medbay, powergame as much as possible not to not die

One less shitter or no cloning with a heavily fucked medbay, its exactly the same, no doubt.
>>164327795
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_Chemistry

You want to train, go here
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13

Download the code, extract it, run Dreammaker on it, compile it, run Dream Daemon, host your own server and then practice if you can't handle being called shit in a job that governs medbay. Im giving you a solution, maybe not the one you wanted, but fucks sake, the one you need if you can0t handle being shitalked.

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>>164328137
>forcing

Lock maintenance for everyone when?
You don't really need to be there

>>164328320
Or you could go ask the HoP for an access change

>>164328320
>it's okay for people to be dead
>it's not okay for people to be dead

???????

>>164328393
Its already locked for many jobs?

>>164328062
If you ask me stuff like "what should a cryomix look like?" or "how do I make it?" or even "what are some good chems to start with for the fridge?" I'll gladly help you along. Helping one person become better and eventually self-sufficient is worth more than helping a few people get back into one round. Hell, ahelp it if you want, most mins have a decent idea of chemistry.

>>164328393
It's locked for everyone but engineers, sec, assistants, and the paramedic

>>164328062
Mix 50 water and 50 pottasium and swallow it

>>164324902
>Robotocist is always a retard who cant make a ripley within 1 hour of round start.

>>164328508
>If you ask me stuff like "what should a cryomix look like?" or "how do I make it?" or even "what are some good chems to start with for the fridge?" I'll gladly help you along.
You don't need to ask that stuff, it's in the guide for chemistry. Guess what - even if you fill fridge with pills and cryomix, that doesn't stop basically anyone going into the chem and mixing on their own.

>>164328414
Or I could not have it be a issue to begin with and need the HoP to fix what was perfectly fine.

Your argument is dogshit, you want to permanently change things for the worse and then point me to the solution that shouldn't even be needed to begin with. Don't argue for bad change and then point to the needless bandaid fix to justify it being implemented, especialy when HoPs either aren't here or, again, are as unpredictable, if not more, than chemists.
>>164328479
>retard tider who constantly broke into places and broke every law in space law doesn't get cloned, shift goes on as usual if not better
>people die to various things, nobody is cloned, no live crew for interaction, players bored, can't play again unless botanists make you into slow tree or nigger nymph, general lack of fun, shuttle called, deadchat salty, shift ruined

This is not hard anon.

>>164328062
>i don't know how to do x
>better fill the role to do x then!

You're part of the fucking problem dumbshit

>>164328574
Clewn mine and librarian also get maint.

>>164328972
And how are you supposed to learn do x if you never do x, retard?

would anyone oppose a secondary server on box and meta whenever deff won the map vote?

>>164328393
Give every job maintenance access when? Let me on my autism maint adventures as a scientist.

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>wiz staff of changes all of security and makes the captain into a catbeast
>only sec member remaining is HoS reject Rin who somehow has a scrying orb and an undying thirst for valids
>20 fucking minutes of Wiz jaunting and teleporting around while ablativeshotgun warden leads him on a scooby doo chase
Man, I applaud that wizard for not picking up any ID or anything from the people he staff of changed. What a real fuckin' hero.

>>164329129
download the entire 20gb source code, learn to host your own personal byond host for ss13 /vg/station and play it alone before the power runs out on the station

>>164329245
head of personnel

>>164324569
>chemists muscled out

I'm sorry probe, did you mean 'shitters muscled out'?
Chemists are universally fucking retarded. Stop being delusional, stop thinking that taking away chem access from the people who are, 9/10, responsible for doing chem because the retard in the orange labcoat was wasting time fucking about not doing the job they signed up for, will somehow make the retards who take chemist not be retarded.
All it will do is cause medbay to run even shittier than it already has for the past fucking year. The last goddamn thing we need is medbay to be crewed by morons who only make space drugs all day every day, because you drove all the doctors away by making their job infinitely fucking harder.

Jesus Christ probe, stop being retarded.

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>>164329236
>splitting the server population because boxbabbies don't want to play deff for a round
Fuck off retard.

When you get jumped by a Facehugger and wake up...

Is it meta to walk directly to medbay?
I'm roleplaying on /vg/ station.

>>164329379
>putting everything up to 'lmao just ask HoP'
You mean ask the role that isn't guaranteed to be filled? You mean put whether or not Medbay actually gets what they need on the line by having to hope that there is an HoP, and that they aren't borderline retarded and won't just go 'lmao fuck off you dont need chem your an MD'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY4Cj68XIiA

>>164329710
>hey doc a little jumpy alien just raped my face and I don't feel so good.

>>164329710
just space yourself and ghost

>>164329710
Anon, take it from a guy who roleplays CMD on /vg/, not going to med when you get faceraped is retarded from an RP standpoint.
I mean, if that happened in real life, and you didn't know what a facehugger was, what it did, etc, would you just go on about your day like nothing happened?
I sure hope not.

>>164329493
The people that are voting that down mostly didn't start playing till way after the change took place.

The reason chemists are seen as shitters is the non shitter chemists are now just doctors.

Why would anyone play mechanic if you could play engineer and it came with mechanic/research access?

>>164329710
Yes
Instead you should walk to the dorms, grab the duck, and suicide

>>164329759
That actually sounds legit to be honest.

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>>164329925
>most of the people that downvoted didn't play until after it happened so that means they don't matter

I AM LOOKING FOR MY HUSBANDO HIS NAME IS AILSA HAS ANYONE SEEN HIM
HE IS MISSING AND HAS NOT BEEN ON FOR TWO DAYS I AM WORRIED

>>164330243
Yes.

>Chemists are shitters

That's the direct result of giving most of medbay chemistry access. Few good players pick it.

>>164330420
>he's serious

Wow, and here I was thinking you were one of the few non-self absorbed coders
Guess that notion just got thrown right out the window

>Question: How do you feel about the pico manipulator cost change to include uncommon ores? Please evaluate it in the context of the research machine buff that accompanied it.

>no link to the buff

>>164330391
>play sec
>Ailsa isn't on
>suffer for no reason

absence of God

>>164330420
>Yes.
Holy fuck, Probe, how much did that pedestal you're on cost you?

>>164329617
>taking in people who wouldn't play deff anyway until the deff round ended would split the population
hmm great argument
>also implying that deff is good just because its not box
really made me think

>>164330420
>yes
>fucking yes

Just fuck off and die, Probe. Where the fuck do you get off discounting what is essentially the majority of the playerbase at this point?
Where do you think you get the authority to place yourself on the high horse, thinking that anyone who isn't from your time is irrelevant, when they are the people who are playing the department you're trying to change for the worse?
Go fuck yourself.

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>>164329925
You are losing my respect for you very quickly probe.

Going so far as to ignore the fact that medbay has governed itself infinitely better without chemistry being restricted, ignoring that needless restriction of the most important department for the ability to even play after dead is by nature, bad, wanting for chemistry to, for any reason, be the one determining factor to a entire departments efficiency and ability to even so much as work anywhere near the way they should, I mean, its like if sec has its cells and timers restricted only to the Warden and HoS, so that now you have to stand in the open cell, by the bucklecuffed player, sometimes punching him just so he stops, you want that?

You want a entire fucking department to be to the whims of regularly shit played role, for no good reason, despite it being logically a worse change for everyone, again, for no good reason.
>>164330420
Holy fuck, you are completely serious. Probe, what the fuck is wrong with you, chemists have always been fucking pricks, even in ye old days they fucked off because they were bored of sequentially inputting chemicals in order to make pills for the whole shift, chemistry is needed but it naturally isn't fun, and for those who it is fun, they don't nearly play chemist enough to justify dependency of that role to the whole fucking department responsible for making players be able to play after death, this is as retarded as removing the cryopods or the cloner, or making whatever flavour of genetic decay, you are for no good reason fucking medbay up when it was fine and fucking dandy, working at max efficiency at a good status quo that hurt literally nobody.

Probe, what the shit, I almost started coding for you, you seemed like the most approachable guy the codebus had, and now you disconnect yourself so much from practical medbay you can't tell how a needless restriction change is bad. This is lockbox nerf 2.0, this will not do a single good thing, wake the fuck up.

>>164330547
>>164330809
>>164331041
>>164331256
Please consider what I said and not what someone else said I said.

I am not writing off your opinions for arbitrary dates. I am taking them in context that the only chemistry you know is one where it's staffed by people that grate on you. This changed at the exact same time the access requirement changed.

Everyone who was good at chemistry stopped playing chemist and started playing doctor. That left us with chemistry as it is now. Good chemists are a rarity and they are often encouraged not to be chemists by everyone walking over them to do their job.

>>164331481
>Everyone who was good at chemistry stopped playing chemist and started playing doctor. That left us with chemistry as it is now. Good chemists are a rarity and they are often encouraged not to be chemists by everyone walking over them to do their job.
How is this an issue?
Good doctors doing good chemistry is as good as a good chemist doing good chemistry.

Chemist is not a crucial job with doctors being able to get into chemistry and everything works great because of it.

>>164331481
No, you responsed to his interpretation of your post with "yes". Stop backpedalling.

>>164331656
I don't think your opinion is worthless unless you played for X number of days anon. I'm sorry that it sounded that way and caused a ruckus.

>>164331010
Why don't you just make a new server for retards like you?

>>164331481
>Good chemists are a rarity and they are often encouraged not to be chemists by everyone walking over them to do their job.
Because not having any chemist restriction has in almost every single way improved medbay for the better.

If you do chemist exclusively to make the mix, you are the most retarded fucker in the whole wide world, probe, if you go for a job that is exclusively following the same chemistry recipes and somehow stop doing it just because you don't get to do 30 cryox and 30 clonex roundstart, good fucking riddance, we never needed you to begin with, much less having a WHOLE FUCKING DEPARTMENT DEPEND ON AUTISTS OF THIS CALIBRE, THAT QUIT PLAYING BECAUSE THEY DONT GET TO DO THE ROUNDSTART CRYO MIX.

Fuck needless restriction on a whole fucking department, and fuck off for even so much as remotely supporting it probe. Do not nerf or even so much as suggest nerfing/restricting a whole department just because the bad and useless restriction was removed for too long.
>>164331759
Apologies not fucking accepted, now we have PJB, mister I dont even play medbay, say that removing shit that makes medbay efficient and actually fun to perform well and quick is fine and dandy, its all optional.

Thanks for making people hate the coderbus again Probe, good dang work, all we need now is another fucking doc so the shitposting begins anew.

>>164332253
question, is there a time limit for rounds on the test server? I want to learn the R-UST but last time I was in there it reset after a hour or so.

>not posting on the github

like shitposts to the wind

If it was so bad and you reallly cared, you'd make an account and post where it mattered
We've never had a reason to listen to the 4chan threads before and this isn't going to be different

gee, you guys argue a lot

>>164332459
It restarts whenever there's a new update. You'll probably wanna host your own server instead

>>164332459
Host your own server with the github code, no need to use the test server.

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>>164332459
>>164332569

>>164332253
ok. you are more mad at me than I can understand and it's coming between my desire to discuss it and my desire not to hear how I am the antichrist.

>>164332241
That was the whole point of the question, angry anon

I guess that a server just for you and me wouldn't be enough, people prefer to just stop playing SS13 when deff comes up apparently.

>>164332707
it's yclat I think, it's that fucking typing style. He's desperate for people to screech at, whether they really honestly deserve it or not.

>>164332253
jesus fucking christ get over yourself you over exaggerating prick. All you powergaming fucks would have everyone access over everything and just hope it fucking works out because "muh efficiency". Go play a fucking MOBA if you want competitive gaming.

>>164332494
kolith please fuck off
just because people shitpost on 4chan it gives you no excuse to disregard people posting actual arguments as shitposting and trying to legitimize the discord community

>>164332898
How do you guys know the posts are Kolith? Sometimes I'll just be scrolling through the thread and people will point out random posts as being kolith and tell him to fuck off

What player controlled things are absolute valids, meaning you can kill them under any circumstances and you won't get in trouble? From my understanding a crew member may validsalad cluwnes, borers, diona nymphs, pAIs, catbeasts, slimes, monkeys and people wearing the shade mask. Am I missing anything?

>>164326784
Wardens play a vital role in that I do not have the time, patience, or inclination to play dressup with greytiders for thirty minutes of my round every round. Floor flushers when

>>164333225
I'm pretty sure people wearing the happiest mask are only valid while they're in or around Medbay or another area with a large amount of dead bodies.

>>164333073
If someone behaves like Kolith it's easy to accuse them of being him.

>>164333073
Writing style.

>>164333338
Happy mask wearers are valid everywhere and I will defend YOUR RIGHT to bonk them as such.

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>>164333259
I have a feeling that post was similarly in jest to the one I made in github with the exact same point about how I have strong feelings about belts.

>>164333225
>people wearing the shades mask
No. Only if you're medbay staff and they're adamant about being in the lobby, since it actively removes people from the round permanently
>pAI
pet clause applies to this one

>>164333225
>validing a pai
You monster.

>Borer says you're boring and leaves

Yeah, fuck you faggot. Sorry I don't validhunt all day

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>>164330420
hey remember when baymed and zas were going to create better players and curb the greytiding
hey remember when engineering was staffed with more than three people and a volunteer didn't have to set up power
hey remember when trips to medical didn't take a disproportionate amount of time out of your round and you didn't have to rely on the kindness of strangers for proper care and the return of all your belongings
hey remember when doctors and engineers didn't make their ghetto weapons of choice and fuck off into maint if there wasn't a major crisis for them to deal with in the first thirty minutes of play
yeah that was pretty funny huh

>>164333618
That's funny because I don't really care what my host does and just like keeping them alive.
I wish there was some silent way of getting into a host because I love surprising people that I've set up shop in their brain, which I can only do with clones.

>>164333482
Happiest Mask always valid if you are on station.

Borers never should have been made friendly. They should have stayed as antags.

>>164333738
>baymed and ZAS
>bad

Fuck off /pol/

>>164333430
I'm dead serious and think more people would play sec willingly (not out of a sense of obligation) if they didn't have to micromanage all of their captives.

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>>164333890
They don't really work as antags due to how RP doesn't exist.
I just wish they didn't get buffed to fuck and basically caused pAIs to become nonexistent.

>They were already powerful, so let's just have the ability to HAVE MORE OF THEM, WITH EVEN MORE POWERS!

>>164334014
So you'd like wardens kept or removed?
My point was that it'd be shitty if they were removed, they're a pretty cool job when done right

>>164333965
>ZAS
>good
Come on now.

>>164334154
Better than ebin 'outrun a plasma flood' LINDA or whatever the fuck it is Goon/TG/etc are all using.
Now fuck off.

>>164334014
It would only push officers to be even more shitcurity than usual.

>>164334269
First of all stop shitposting.
And secondly I was wrong.
ZAS is fine but what was once a joke that is hardcore ZAS being now the norm is just terrible.

>>164334391
casual

Wardens are what keeps sec sane, just allows you to dump shitters in the brig and never think about them again

>>164328393
>>164328574
It's actually really annoying, sometimes maintenance can be the best way to bypass a breach.

>>164334391
>waaaaah why do i go out the window when i break it waaaaaah hardcore suxx why cant we have casual zas youre dumb

>>164334150
At least pAIs are finally getting buffed now, too.

>>164334526
One active vent in a vented room will keep someone slamming into a wall until they have 800 brute.

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>>164334659

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>>164334659

I fucking hate Snowmen.

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>>164333965
/pol/?
I don't understand are they supposed to be pro or anti ZAS? And why?

>>164334526
>>164334436

Anon I politely asked you to stop shitposting.
Sad!

>>164335214
They'll be gone tomorrow.

>>164335217
using ebin meme president as a reaction and expecting people to take him seriously

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>when cloudflare doesn't let you post
>>164333965
>>164333965
woops sorry for having wrong opinions busta
they're not bad per say, they add depth to the game and give the server something semi-unique to attract people with, they just didn't solve any of the problems they were prescribed for.
needlessly inconveniencing players doesn't create some kind of proverbial crucible in which good players are formed
ron paul 2020

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>30 minutes into the round
>Not a single bit of research done
>Its an antag with a shitty muslim gimmick

>>164335214
I love fucking snowmen

>>164335349
So the bar will finally NOT be ugly? Sweet.

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>everyone in medbay gets ZAS'd at once
>then there is NO FUCKING POWER for 10+ minutes
>by miracle we manage to get a surgery replacement working in chemistry and I work on a few people
>somehow some asshat emptied out most of the fridge
>nobody understands how pain works and think tramadol does shit
>borer rees his head off because I didn't give dex+ to the person I was fixing 3 different bone fractures on
>can't get a surgical incision manager even when I have direct line of sight to R&D to yell at the scientists from inside chemistry
I hate every single one of you and I will still continue to work on the ride.

>>164335214
Didn't feel anything

>>164335684
>Meme President


You know probably almost all of the people who voted for Trump have never been on /pol/ right?

>>164335767
>>164335865
I cloned alot of people. I don't know how many but there was no biomass and no cloneable bodies left when I got off the station.